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<v Speaker 1>And obviously Canaan came from Ham's line well Canaan, and

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<v Speaker 1>it clearly says it in the book. At Jubilees, when

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<v Speaker 1>they were dividing things up, he went to where he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what his portion was, and he looked around.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you know, for lack of a better term,

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<v Speaker 1>this sucks. I don't like it here. So he's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back over to the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this land over here, which is now you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>would become the Promised Land modern day Israel, and then

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<v Speaker 1>even more territory beyond that.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, I'm taking this.

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<v Speaker 1>And his brother and his dad, his brothers and his

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<v Speaker 1>dad went to him and said, don't do that, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be cursed forever, you and your offspring

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<v Speaker 1>because we promised and made an oath to God that

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't do this, and we promised, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad and granddad, we wouldn't do this in each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, yeah, I'm doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>What is happening? And what is a hold out your

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<v Speaker 3>glass because we're about to feel it up.

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<v Speaker 2>All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline

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<v Speaker 2>and fallen angels.

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<v Speaker 4>In the distance looms a mystical mountains. As Mike Heiser

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<v Speaker 4>used to say, if it's in the Bible and it's weird,

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<v Speaker 4>it's probably important. At its peak, a great fire burns,

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<v Speaker 4>concealing the Prometheus lenses.

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<v Speaker 1>This development of this knowledge that's being talked about within

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<v Speaker 1>the mystery schools.

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<v Speaker 4>An ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth within

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<v Speaker 4>a deliberately darkened world.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a hidden history that's been deliberately obscated from the.

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<v Speaker 4>People's livil world. Join us as we travel and explore

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<v Speaker 4>the vast unknown. It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay,

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<v Speaker 4>damsels to save, and innumerable treasures to hoard. Torches high.

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<v Speaker 5>The Smithsonian they call wind of a giant's belt, would

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<v Speaker 5>send their agents jug to get it.

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<v Speaker 6>But it takes courage to move forward, to move out

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<v Speaker 6>of the shadows, out of the under reality that we

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<v Speaker 3>We are all on the hero's journey.

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<v Speaker 7>Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extra terrestrials.

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<v Speaker 3>Leave the sitient mound of gold feathers out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, look at it from a different perspective, different perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>different perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what is happening and what is up? Hold out

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<v Speaker 3>your glass, we are about to feel it up. Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>the Prometheus Lens Podcast, the place where the conversations are

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<v Speaker 3>always lighting. I'm your host, justin here. We like to

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<v Speaker 3>use the allegory of the Prometheus Lens. Just take a

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<v Speaker 3>second look at everything. Hey, you new to the channel.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the Hero's Journey. If you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 3>us out. Every Monday at eight o'clock Eastern Standard time.

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<v Speaker 3>But today we have another just Podcaster round table. I

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<v Speaker 3>do these every so often. I love just sitting down

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<v Speaker 3>and talking with other guys that are on the Hero's

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<v Speaker 3>journey just like I am, and having these conversations with

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<v Speaker 3>these great guests and stuff. And I met this gentleman

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<v Speaker 3>through a Facebook group and we've been messaging back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth and developed a connection with this guy. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, man, we need to get together, hang

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<v Speaker 3>out and have some conversations. So I reached out to them,

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<v Speaker 3>but we have Kyle and Ben today from the ten

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<v Speaker 3>four Hat Club. Guys, thank you for coming out and

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<v Speaker 3>hanging out with me today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having us brother. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is great.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, hey, you just for those that are unfamiliar with

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<v Speaker 5>you guys, just go ahead and let them know a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit about yourselves of the show. What do you covered,

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<v Speaker 5>and just give everybody a little bit of a feel.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you will go first, you let me go first,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go all right, typically how this works. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, for us, the way I always describe our

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<v Speaker 1>show to everybody is we typically cover all the fringe

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<v Speaker 1>biblical and conspiratorial things the church doesn't like to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much what we do very much.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, anyway, I'll kind of share my story. I

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<v Speaker 1>really started kind of diving. I've been in Christian almost

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<v Speaker 1>it and it just became like the most organic Bible

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of what church is really supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got talking about the Nephilin one night and

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<v Speaker 1>we were just fascinated by it. And actually we ordered

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<v Speaker 1>this book that I have right here in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>So ordered that book because it actually had all the

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<v Speaker 2>And started reading the Book of Enoch.

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<v Speaker 1>mind if I read your book while you're in surgery?

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<v Speaker 1>And she said no, go ahead. So I started reading

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<v Speaker 1>it and I just was like, oh my gosh, this

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<v Speaker 1>And then, like a good Christian boy, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>that I dove in and I studied, the more that

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<v Speaker 1>scripture reinforced the Book of Vnock, and the more book

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Vnock reinforced scripture, and it just explained

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<v Speaker 1>to me that, you know, it was something that we

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<v Speaker 1>really should probably have in our Bibles. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's really controversial because we have what we know is scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>But the next question was is like, you know, why,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're going to talk about today. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we switched churches and I meet this guy. And before

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<v Speaker 1>that Friday group that we were going to that I

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of already had everything all set up and

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go, webs, I, the whole nine, And then

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<v Speaker 1>hit it off like gangbusters. And the church is literally

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<v Speaker 1>like this little fifty people a week, you know, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineteen hundreds. And I walked through the door

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<v Speaker 1>and the first week we're there in the front little

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<v Speaker 1>classroom of the church, they're doing a study on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Enoch, and I'm like, you got to be

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<v Speaker 2>kidding me.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just kind of funny how God exists, you do, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, like you're not going to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the churches and find them studying the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Enoch, right, So it's just kind of cool

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<v Speaker 1>because God really used the Book of Noch to drop

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<v Speaker 1>these breadcrumbs for me to kind of lead and still

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the first time that I was ever on

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<v Speaker 2>Like Dad, I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to know more about you, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn more about you and who you will are.

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<v Speaker 1>What's our story, what's the truth? Not what I've been taught,

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<v Speaker 1>but what really is your true word? So we get

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<v Speaker 1>to talking and hit it off, and you know, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't even know that I had started, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff in the background for a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And he looks at me and he goes, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, funny you say that, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>all these things ready to go. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how we got started on my endo things. I'll let

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously. I like long walks on the beach looking up

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<v Speaker 2>at the stars and wondering why we are here. I

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<v Speaker 2>went through romantically.

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<v Speaker 5>His toes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. No, I've always that, It's true. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>wondered and questioned everything. I mean, and my dad was

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<v Speaker 2>very good. It just I jokingly say we had two

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<v Speaker 2>books in our house, the Bible and The Lord of

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<v Speaker 2>the Rings, because that's just the way my dad. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like he liked science fiction and he liked the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>And the older I got, the more I realized, why

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<v Speaker 2>does my dad like this? And he would always talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Genesis six. He talked about it. He would always

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<v Speaker 2>preach about Genesis six. You know, hey, something happened, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And he would always he would never he would make

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<v Speaker 2>it modern. He'd be like, what if aliens said he

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to bring people's thinking like, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more to this than there is. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>would discuss Enoch and what the watchers did and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a background and I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know more about the giants, and probably, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven, twenty twelve, I was like on YouTube Giants

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<v Speaker 2>and the first person that popped up was Rob Skiba,

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. This isn't anything new, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>they were talking like it was the first show off this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is old that there's nothing new, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I just taught this when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, there has to be more people like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just kind of I just more looked into

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<v Speaker 2>it and discovered things. I was like, man, there people

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<v Speaker 2>there was like people already doing this. I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>It was just I realized that people in church don't

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<v Speaker 2>on my heart that I know is God, nobody else

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<v Speaker 2>what God. You know, I don't believe in my purpose

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you know, and it's like, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, my mind is calmer, Yeah, doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>biblical and conspiratorial things the Church doesn't like to talk about, right.

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<v Speaker 2>backstory of spiritual warfare and spiritual evil, right. And what

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<v Speaker 2>Because Paul said it best, right, And I thought about

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he summed it up better than anybody ever,

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<v Speaker 2>will you know. We fight not against flesh but against

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<v Speaker 2>powers and principalities and spiritual darkness and evil, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's really what he was talking about there. When you

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<v Speaker 2>the conspiratorial things, it's really just you know, ultimately the

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual battle that's going on. So, you know, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these conspiratorial things, if that's what your thing is, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really deeper than that. So we like to take those

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<v Speaker 2>newest ways to do the oldest sinning? Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that's really kind of the the gateway

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<v Speaker 1>for us, you know, so we kind of cut that

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<v Speaker 1>swoth there. Some weeks you're going to show up and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking to people about the Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>and then other weeks we're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, aliens and other stuff. So it just kind

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, it's a good thing too, is like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of territorial podcasters out there that that's

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And oh there's just there's everybody's doing the

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<v Speaker 3>Your mission should be, you know, just as being said,

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<v Speaker 3>is coming, because those are going to be the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that Revelations talks about when it says men's hearts will

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<v Speaker 3>to see because they're unprepared and ill equipped. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>like we need as many as these as possible because

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<v Speaker 3>can tell by his accent. Turn me right off, but

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<v Speaker 3>tune into you guys and listen to what you guys

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<v Speaker 3>have to say, so that everybody. There's many flavors of

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<v Speaker 3>ice cream, and we need to make sure that every

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know exactly, and you know it's ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. You know, we live

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<v Speaker 1>in a we live in a world, especially in America,

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<v Speaker 1>where our brothers and sisters are asleep. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard the pastor at a church speak on

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<v Speaker 1>Genesis six zero times, you know, in my forty years

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<v Speaker 1>up until we started going over here. And that's really

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<v Speaker 1>sad because you know, we do all these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing against them. I'm not trying to pick on

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in their way of worship, but we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be real about it. You know, all these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>self help studies and sermons series and all this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's fine, it has its place, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about the things of the world

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<v Speaker 1>too and what's going on and be real about stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Because man, I don't know about anybody else, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking around and I'm like, it's getting pretty dark out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and i don't know about your wallet, but mine's getting

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<v Speaker 1>lighter by the day, and they're taking more and more

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<v Speaker 1>of our freedom and more and more of our money,

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<v Speaker 1>which you whiz, why is that, Well, that's because we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wrapping up the spiritual battle for the end times,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as you were saying a little bit ago,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, the church isn't doing what Christ did

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<v Speaker 2>the churches that going out and meeting people where they're at.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's that's what these podcasts are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they like or listen to through the week, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they're going to listen to. And how are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to get somebody in and interested if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk to them about stuff that they're interested in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I can talk to anybody about anything. I

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<v Speaker 2>know a little bit about anything. I mean, I've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done a lot of things. I can talk mechanics, cars, guitars, motorcycles, guns, Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 2>voch Ness monster, I can talk to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different people. And that is how you know the church

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<v Speaker 2>should be. That's how and I think that's what these

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because there's so many people now that have joined

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<v Speaker 3>is a deception or the wick and the witchcraft stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>These people have firsthand experience with the supernatural. So then

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<v Speaker 3>they're finally turning to the church and going in and

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<v Speaker 3>talking about their experiences and the things they've seen, the

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<v Speaker 3>things they've experienced, they've touched, and the pastors are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that book you read all they're just making stuff

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<v Speaker 3>up to sell books. Oh you think that person's going

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<v Speaker 3>to do. They're going to be like, you're an idiot.

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<v Speaker 3>I've summoned these demons. I've seen them in front of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had the hat people standing in the corner, sitting

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<v Speaker 3>on my chest and strangling me at night. You're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the church is the church suffers from such a

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<v Speaker 1>ignorance and a lack of knowledge of even basic scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff isn't real, or if it is, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't be messing with it, and this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, okay. For those of somebody that would

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<v Speaker 1>of the Exodus, Because when Moses is going and meeting

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<v Speaker 1>and turning into a serpent, and then the two sorcerers

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<v Speaker 1>for the for Pharaoh or throwing their staff on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and they're turning into serpents too, they could reproduce

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what Moses was doing. They just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop what Moses was doing in some instances. That should

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something, right that this stuff is real and

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<v Speaker 1>some kind that you know, are legit to for all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff to not be real and I always come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk on the show a lot about Daniel twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>where it says in the end time knowledge will increase,

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's the one that kind of enlightened me

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<v Speaker 1>to this. It was something that he actually mentioned. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's spiritual knowledge because we're having this great culling

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening right now in the church and in the

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<v Speaker 1>world where you know, the ones that are asleep are

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<v Speaker 1>then we have the other side over there where we're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like you got to wake up because this is getting bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think that's really what Daniel might

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<v Speaker 3>with you until the end of the age? Yep, Well

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<v Speaker 3>what's in age? That's twenty six hundred years. That's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, I mean that that's that's what he's talking about,

453
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<v Speaker 3>and just maybe coincidence, but that's the next age that

454
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<v Speaker 3>we're coming into. Yeah, I knowledge is definitely increasing.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's crazy. He just dropped some truth there, buddy.

456
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<v Speaker 1>I like, yeah, it's it's interesting too that you bring

457
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<v Speaker 1>that up, because it's an interesting tie into kind of

458
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<v Speaker 1>I know, we had talked today about you know, what

459
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<v Speaker 1>we were we were going to discuss. So I don't

460
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<v Speaker 1>want to prim too much there, but it's just interesting

461
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<v Speaker 1>too how astrology is being used for You can use

462
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<v Speaker 1>it for good or you can use It's like anything, man,

463
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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can use it for good or you

464
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<v Speaker 1>can use it for evil, right, because it was given

465
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<v Speaker 1>to us to kind of pay attention to. But then

466
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<v Speaker 1>obviously you get into tarot cards and you get into

467
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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of the pure you know, course go

468
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<v Speaker 1>horoscopes and all that stuff, and you can you start

469
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<v Speaker 1>playing in some of the devil's devil's playground and some

470
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<v Speaker 1>of the spiritual playground that you're just not equipped to plan.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of an interesting thing that all that

472
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<v Speaker 2>stuff's interesting. I mean really it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is, yeah, I mean yeah, because how we

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<v Speaker 1>get there, right, that's the fascinating thing, Like what it

475
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<v Speaker 1>really is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, where does it come from? Well, i

477
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<v Speaker 2>mean God put it there for a reason, that's for sure. Absolutely.

478
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<v Speaker 3>The devil always perverts and distorts the things that God creates.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, nothing news under the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, the great count.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if we can transition, because I know, we had

482
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<v Speaker 3>picked a topic to kind of dive into, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually really excited to hear what you have found and

484
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<v Speaker 3>come up with. I tried to do a quick little

485
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<v Speaker 3>eighth grade thirty minute cram session before the test, so

486
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<v Speaker 3>I'm really leaning in on you guys today. Uh oh fool,

487
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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you fool. But just introduced the topic and

488
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<v Speaker 3>the idea that we were talking about and kind of

489
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<v Speaker 3>walk au see in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that poor Ben he's the one he gets

491
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<v Speaker 1>to hear me talk about this all the time, because

492
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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like a dog with a bone with it.

493
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<v Speaker 1>But I when I started diving into the Book of Enoch,

494
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<v Speaker 1>obviously that was just the tip of the iceberg, right,

495
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<v Speaker 1>And really what you find out as you find out, okay,

496
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<v Speaker 1>where does it come from? And you wind up back

497
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<v Speaker 1>in Kumran. You always wind up back in Kumran the

498
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<v Speaker 1>Dead Sea scrolls, and so you start digging in and

499
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<v Speaker 1>you're like, okay, well, what else was in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

501
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<v Speaker 1>Because obviously this was in there, and it sure helps

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<v Speaker 1>understand your Bible a whole other level. And one of

503
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<v Speaker 1>the other books that you'll find that was in you know,

504
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<v Speaker 1>fairly abundant supply. Now I'm gonna stop there, and I'm

505
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<v Speaker 1>going to say to say that there were more copies

506
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<v Speaker 1>of this than something else is a little bit of

507
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<v Speaker 1>a fallacy because you have to understand, they're finding pieces

508
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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, right, and they're having pieces together. But

509
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<v Speaker 1>they found a lot of the Book of Jubilees. And

510
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<v Speaker 1>for me, the Book of Jubilees is kind of the

511
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<v Speaker 1>diamond and the rough that everybody focuses on the Book

512
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<v Speaker 1>of nich but they don't really give a lot of

513
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<v Speaker 1>you know, pay much attention to the Book of Jubilees.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Book of Jubilees is incredible from a historical

515
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<v Speaker 1>perspective and being providing a lot more detail of a

516
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<v Speaker 1>lot of the events that happened leading up to the exodus.

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<v Speaker 1>And just for those of you that have not read

518
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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Jubilees or maybe aren't familiar with it,

519
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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to find and you can get it

520
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<v Speaker 1>out there. We've got it on our website too, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to the TFHC dot com or actually

522
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<v Speaker 1>on our Facebook page.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's on our Facebook page.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go over there and you dig, you'll find

525
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<v Speaker 1>a PDF copy and you can find it out there,

526
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<v Speaker 1>easy to read it, so it won't cost you anything.

527
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<v Speaker 1>But when you find what you're going to find is

528
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<v Speaker 1>it's written from the perspective, it's being dictated to Moses

529
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<v Speaker 1>while he's up on Mount Sinai at God's instruction via

530
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<v Speaker 1>an angel to him. So God says, okay, fill him

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<v Speaker 1>in on everything that happened up to this point. So

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<v Speaker 1>again he's on the mountain for the forty days and

533
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<v Speaker 1>Sinai as a matter of fact, actually it picks up

534
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<v Speaker 1>if you want to find it in your Bible. It

535
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<v Speaker 1>actually drops in at Exodus twenty four to twelve is

536
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<v Speaker 1>where the Book of Jubilees would really kind of start.

537
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<v Speaker 1>And so this angel is dictating to Moses everything that

538
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<v Speaker 1>happened from the creation all the way up to that point.

539
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<v Speaker 1>And it gets into some fascinating things that you are

540
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<v Speaker 1>not going to get in the Bible and you do

541
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<v Speaker 1>not get in Genesis specifically. And one of the things

542
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<v Speaker 1>that you find when you start digging into Enoch, but

543
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<v Speaker 1>you definitely find when you dig into the Book of

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<v Speaker 1>Jubilees is Genesis has written very cliff notes style.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of like if you were going to

547
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<v Speaker 1>watch your favorite sitcom and you come in and you

548
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 1>sit down, they're going to have that quick little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one minute, one and a half minute kind of you

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<v Speaker 1>know trailer if you will, of hey, on previous episodes,

551
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<v Speaker 1>here's what we had happened. This is pretty much what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get in Genesis up to a certain

553
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<v Speaker 1>point because it was very well known to them, right,

554
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<v Speaker 1>this was kind of well known to the readers back

555
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<v Speaker 1>in the day. Now not so much for us. In

556
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<v Speaker 1>the twenty first century Western Church. But back in the

557
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<v Speaker 1>day this was old information. So you need things like

558
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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Jubilees and the Book of Enoch to

559
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<v Speaker 1>kind of dive in there. And Jubilees a lot of

560
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<v Speaker 1>times provides a lot more detail even than the Book

561
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<v Speaker 1>of Enoch does, because Enoch is really going to focus

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<v Speaker 1>mainly on that Genesis six and then we kind of

563
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<v Speaker 1>get into kind of the animal apocalypse and other things too,

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<v Speaker 1>But Jubilees is walking you through that account in much

565
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<v Speaker 1>greater detail. We get information as to what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the garden in more detail. You know how long they

567
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<v Speaker 1>were in the garden before that happened, and all kinds

568
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<v Speaker 1>of other things. But one of the interesting things that

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of zeroed in for our discussion today was

570
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<v Speaker 1>we have a person. If you go look in your Bible,

571
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<v Speaker 1>there is an individual who is missing in the account

572
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<v Speaker 1>in Genesis ten. When you go compare the genealogical record

573
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<v Speaker 1>and you look at who begat who, especially after the flood,

574
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<v Speaker 1>there is an individual that is not present either in

575
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<v Speaker 1>Genesis or in chronicles, that is present in Luke's accounting

576
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<v Speaker 1>of Christ's lineage. When you go back and that person's

577
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<v Speaker 1>name is Kinum ki n am or Cii, n an

578
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<v Speaker 1>or ci in Am. They various different spellings, but Kindum

579
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<v Speaker 1>is what we're going to roll with. And that's very

580
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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me because when you start digging in, and

581
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<v Speaker 1>when I found this, I was like, well, this is

582
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<v Speaker 1>really curious, and I kind of have this cued up.

583
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<v Speaker 1>So I'll go ahead and read it from the Book

584
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<v Speaker 1>of Jubilees. And this is in chapter eight. And just

585
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<v Speaker 1>to preface this arapha shot or our facts hat or

586
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<v Speaker 1>however you want to say, it is actually this end

587
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<v Speaker 1>of Vigil's father in Genesis. It says that he was

588
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<v Speaker 1>the father of Sheila, and by all accounts, I'm going

589
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<v Speaker 1>to actually say that that does not appear to be

590
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<v Speaker 1>the case. So I'll go ahead and pick it up

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenty ninth Jubilee in the first week, so

592
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<v Speaker 1>this is year thirteen seventy three from creation Anno Mundi.

593
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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning theref Rafashot took himself a wife, and

594
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<v Speaker 1>her name was Rohusia, the daughter of Susan, the daughter

595
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<v Speaker 1>of Elam, and she bare him a son. In the

596
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<v Speaker 1>third year in this week, so that's thirteen seventy five

597
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<v Speaker 1>and called his name Kainum, and the son grew and

598
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<v Speaker 1>his father taught him writing, and he went to seek

599
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<v Speaker 1>for himself a place where he could seize for himself

600
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<v Speaker 1>a city. I'm going to pause there, because that's your

601
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<v Speaker 1>first indication that this dude probably ain't that good a guy, right,

602
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<v Speaker 1>because he's going and he's going to seize for himself

603
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<v Speaker 1>a city, meaning I'm going to take somebody's that doesn't

604
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<v Speaker 1>belong to me, right, That's kind of the gist that

605
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<v Speaker 1>you're given there. And he found a writing which former

606
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<v Speaker 1>generations had carved on the rock, and he read what

607
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>was there on and he transcribed it and send owing

608
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<v Speaker 1>to it, for it contained teachings of the watchers in

609
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<v Speaker 1>accordance with which they had used to observe the omens

610
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<v Speaker 1>of the sun and the moon and the stars and

611
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 1>all the signs of heaven. And he wrote it down

612
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<v Speaker 1>and said nothing regarding it, for he was afraid to

613
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<v Speaker 1>speak to Noah about it, lest he should be angry

614
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<v Speaker 1>with him on account of it. And so you have

615
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<v Speaker 1>a very clear link that was just drawn between this

616
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<v Speaker 1>person and that lost watcher technology or information knowledge, if

617
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<v Speaker 1>you will, that we tried to wipe clean when we

618
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<v Speaker 1>had the flood. Now, the other interesting thing that you

619
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<v Speaker 1>find when you dive in here more is this individual,

620
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<v Speaker 1>when you start looking at the lineage existed at the

621
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<v Speaker 1>same time as Neimrod, he was actually Nimrod's cousin, all right.

622
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<v Speaker 1>And it's just interesting because as you dive in more,

623
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<v Speaker 1>and I've only started to get into the very surface

624
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<v Speaker 1>of this, but I feel like there's a lot more

625
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<v Speaker 1>information that's there that leads us down the road of

626
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<v Speaker 1>we now have connected Nimrod to the Watchers via a

627
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<v Speaker 1>cousin potentially. And you can clearly see that now we

628
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<v Speaker 1>have this what was purged, we've now opened the door

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<v Speaker 1>for this to come back. And I find it very

630
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<v Speaker 1>curious that this particular person is accused of doing this

631
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that involves the Watchers, and they seemingly have been

632
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<v Speaker 1>scrubbed from the record in Genesis and the record in Chronicles.

633
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<v Speaker 3>This is crazy because it ties into a conversation that

634
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 3>I recently had with doctor Judd and doctor Aaron Judkins

635
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<v Speaker 3>on go Beckley tape. I mentioned this account because I

636
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 3>was trying to figure out, you know, with go Beckley Tappe,

637
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<v Speaker 3>do they believe that this was a pre flood site

638
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.160
<v Speaker 3>or a post flood site. And then when I mentioned

639
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<v Speaker 3>the post flood, I had meant and I said, there's

640
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<v Speaker 3>a story in Jubilees about this guy finding these stones

641
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<v Speaker 3>with the writings and teachings of the watchers. I said,

642
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, could this be go Beckley Teppe. So that's

643
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 3>pretty interesting just that I had that conversation and now

644
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 3>we're having this. You know, that's well God's timing.

645
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, indeed, sir, do you want me to help you

646
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 1>even a little further than that? Here's the interesting Yeah,

647
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>this is this is crazy that we're having this. I'm

648
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>getting some goosebumps right now because because it was like,

649
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a conversation we already had right exactly. So

650
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>as I started digging into this, one of the things

651
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 1>that you can go find on Wikipedia. And I know

652
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.599
<v Speaker 1>anybody can go into Wikipedia and write anything, but I

653
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 1>still think it's a pretty good source and you can

654
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 1>go vett it yourself when you go to Haron Turkey,

655
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>which we should be familiar with that because we're going

656
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 1>to get into this because there's more tie in here

657
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>and I want to read some more stuff out the

658
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Book of Jubilees that we don't necessarily get in genie

659
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<v Speaker 1>about Abraham, because this really ties into Abraham too down

660
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the line. But one of the things that you find

661
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>about heron Turkey, which is actually due north of Syria. Okay,

662
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times I think for me anyway, geographically

663
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 1>we think Turkey is pretty far away from Israel, but

664
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<v Speaker 1>then the northeastern part or really the southeastern part of

665
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Turkey really isn't that far, right, And for our biblical forefathers,

666
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of trans working in this whole area here.

667
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>But allegedly this individual kind of was the founder of Heron,

668
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and Heron literally is what forty five minutes away from

669
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 1>go Beckley Teppe and forty five minutes away from Karen Teppy.

670
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 1>So you literally have, geographically right in this same area,

671
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you have these two sites.

672
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

673
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>The other thing too is if you go pretty much

674
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 1>due north of there and you go through the mountain range,

675
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you run into the mountains of Era right, which again

676
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>in Jubilees, you get more of an account of the

677
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:07.159
<v Speaker 1>specific peak because when you say Mount Arad, everybody thinks, oh,

678
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Mount Saint Helens. There's just this singular

679
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>mountain runnered around up there. But that's not really how

680
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it works. Like when you say Mount Hermone, there are

681
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 1>actually three main peaks of Mount Hermon, right, And I

682
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>think it actually talks in Jubilees as well. Maybe it's

683
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Enoch where it talks about the specific peak that the

684
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 1>watchers came down on, which was Mount Artists. You get

685
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 1>the same exact thing in Jubilees when it talks about

686
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>which peak the arc landed on, which was Loubar. But

687
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 1>either way, you can see that right here in this

688
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 1>geographical area all together, right, we have kind of the

689
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 1>restarting of civilization, so it would make a lot of

690
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>sense that this individual would kind of be in this area.

691
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:51.519
<v Speaker 1>So the fascinating thing is when we read what we

692
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<v Speaker 1>just did about him, and this is something that as

693
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I was doing a kind of a second read through

694
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of Jubilees before we had ever even really talked about

695
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of doing the show with my wife, I caught

696
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 1>this and I'm like, oh wow, that's awesome, and it

697
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>sure ties everything together. Now it says specifically that it

698
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<v Speaker 1>says that he had found information to observe the omens

699
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of the sun and moon and stars, right, so we

700
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>can tell this is celestial knowledge. Well, gee whiz, isn't

701
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>it fascinating that every site that we find out there, right,

702
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 1>whether it was pre flood or what we think would

703
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>we would think would be pre flood or really old

704
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>or maybe a post flood site, always seems to celestially align.

705
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Right.

706
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's a site out there that

707
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't celestial align either with it's outlined like Oriyan, or

708
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 1>it lines up with the solstices or any of that stuff.

709
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of fascinating.

710
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 1>And then what you find when you read the account

711
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:53.800
<v Speaker 1>of Abraham is Abraham actually grew up in er of

712
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>the Childies, right, which is right there in that kind

713
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>of area where we had Babylon and Nineveh and all

714
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>these towns right there where.

715
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Chaldeans were historically known for being astronomers and

716
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 3>looking at the stars and mapping all that.

717
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's also a legend that when he died his

718
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 1>children Kinum. When Kinum died, his children made kind of

719
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 1>a god of him and worshiped him because of all

720
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 1>this knowledge that he had.

721
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Right.

722
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>And when we go and we pick up with the

723
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>account of Abraham, we can see that Abraham was raised

724
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>over there, and we don't really get the full picture

725
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>in Genesis like we do in Jubilees of what happened

726
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 1>that caused him to leave to go back to Heron

727
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>right because he left, his dad's name was heron Right,

728
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 1>which leads you to believe that maybe his dad was

729
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>involved in founding Heron but that really doesn't jive from

730
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>a timeline perspective. But they flee and they wind it

731
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.039
<v Speaker 1>back in Heron. Well, what you find in the Book

732
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of Jubilees. The reason for that is they were all

733
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>worshiping these sun and moon gods and goddesses, and the

734
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>goddess of the moon is actually her name is sin

735
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Si n Okay, which is ironic n of sin later, right, yeah, yeah,

736
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>which you know the funny thing about that when you

737
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>go look at Wilderness of sin. So this is a

738
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>fun one for everybody to go on Google, and Google's

739
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>like Wikipedia. Anybody can go on there and drop a

740
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>pin on there. But it's still interesting because I don't

741
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.079
<v Speaker 1>think that's the case of how this wound up. When

742
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you go over and you take Google Google Maps and

743
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 1>you pull it out on Saudi Arabia in that area

744
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>where they think that the Red Sea crossing happened, you're

745
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.679
<v Speaker 1>going to see that's still to this day called the

746
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Wilderness of Sin, which I find interesting. So as we

747
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 1>move forward and we kind of look at this, you know,

748
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Abraham went in to the place where they were keeping

749
00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>all these idols that they were worshiping, and he set

750
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 1>a place on fire, right, And so you get this

751
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 1>account where the reason that his brother died is because

752
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>he ran in to try to save all of these

753
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>idols and stuff that they were worshiping, and he died.

754
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>He got cooked to death.

755
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, Abraham is basically turning away from

756
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, and he's starting to challenge even his

757
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>dad because his dad's worshiping this stuff too. And his

758
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>dad basically says, you know, what do you want me

759
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.679
<v Speaker 1>to do? If I really turn against this stuff? The

760
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 1>people that I work for and everybody around here, they're

761
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>going to kill me, right.

762
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 6>And.

763
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>So he sets all this stuff on fire and his

764
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 1>brother dies. That's how he wound up with lot because

765
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 1>his dad basically says, Okay, you need to get out

766
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of here, go ahead and go back to heron and

767
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 1>take a lot with you. So that's how he winds

768
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 1>up taking a lot with him. He actually killed his

769
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>father accidentally. He didn't mean to.

770
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:02.039
<v Speaker 3>It's extremely similar to Jack Sure. Jasher's story was he

771
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 3>went in and bust the Idols and the littles Nimrod,

772
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 3>and then they try to throw them in a furnace,

773
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 3>and his brother dies in the furnace, but Abraham survives,

774
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 3>and that's how he gets lot.

775
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

776
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you.

777
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Still have the fire and the idols and just a

778
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 3>little different faceline.

779
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

780
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 1>So I'll read this to everybody from a little snippet

781
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 1>of Jubilee. So this is in Jubilees twelve. So in

782
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the sixtieth year of the life of abrahamers. Yeah, sixtieth

783
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>year the life Abraham. That is in the fourth week

784
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and the fourth year thereof. So nineteen thirty six, Abraham

785
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 1>arose by night and burned the house of the Idols,

786
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and he burned all that was in the house, and

787
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 1>no man knew it. And they arose in the night

788
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 1>and sought to save their gods from the midst of

789
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.079
<v Speaker 1>the fire. And Heron hasted to save them, but the

790
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>fire flamed over him. Excuse me, Tera was Abraham's father,

791
00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>not Heron. Heron was his brother. I apologize, I said,

792
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>there wrong earlier. The fire flamed over him, and he

793
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>was burnt in the fire, and he died, and her

794
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 1>of the childies before Tara his father, and they buried

795
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>him and Earth the childies, and Tara went forth from

796
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Earth the childies, he and his sons to go into

797
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the land of Lebanon, which at the time must have

798
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 1>also kind of Lebanon stretched up and had this area

799
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>in that and into the land of Canaan. And he

800
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>dwelt in the land of Heron. And Abraham dwelt with Tara,

801
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>his father and hero in two weeks of years. And

802
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 1>this is the interesting part. When I read this the

803
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 1>second time through, I'm like, okay, it's making sense to

804
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.639
<v Speaker 1>me why we had this little snippet about Kinum earlier.

805
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>And in the sixth week the fifth year thereof so

806
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:46.039
<v Speaker 1>one ninety five or nineteen fifty one, antil Moondy, Abraham

807
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>sat up throughout the night on the new moon of

808
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the seventh month to observe the stars from the evening

809
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.039
<v Speaker 1>to the morning, in order to see what would be

810
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 1>the character of the year regarding the reins. And he

811
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 1>was alone, and he sat and observed, and the word

812
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>came to his heart and he said, all the signs

813
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of the stars, and the signs of the moon and

814
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of the sun are all in the hand of the Lord.

815
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Why do I search them out? If he desires, he

816
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 1>causes it to rain morning and evening. And if he desires,

817
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>he withholds it. And all the things are in his hand.

818
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 1>And he prayed that night and said, My God, God

819
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>most High, Thou alone art my God, and thee and

820
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 1>thy dominion have I chosen, and now has created all things,

821
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and all things are the work of thy hands. So

822
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 1>you can see here what you don't normally get, you

823
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 1>know when you kind of first glance through that, is that, Okay,

824
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.599
<v Speaker 1>he's having this conversation, he's decided to dedicate himself to God.

825
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 2>But really what he's.

826
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Doing he's turning away from all of that watcher you know,

827
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 1>set up that we clearly had a little bit prior

828
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 1>with Kinum, right, we had that in there for a

829
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:56.199
<v Speaker 1>reason in the Book of Jubilees, because it obviously re

830
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>brought in all of this false God worship into the mix.

831
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's what you've got going rampant right all in

832
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that area and all of these places, and Abraham is

833
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>turning away from that, and that's why you know, you

834
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>can see that God chooses Abraham.

835
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the owing to the gods I found curious when

836
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 3>I was reading that account. It said that when Caanum

837
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 3>found these stones and discovered the the sun, moon and

838
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.480
<v Speaker 3>stars and all that stuff, it said. But then it

839
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 3>has just like a little snippet at the end of it,

840
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, it says, and thus was owing to them.

841
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>And send owing to it is what it says in

842
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 2>this version. Yeah.

843
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of fascinating, Like you can see clearly

844
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of have the setup, like I stopped before,

845
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 1>you can tell the mentality of this individual because it

846
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 1>says that he's not going to go, you know, found

847
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.199
<v Speaker 1>himself a city. No, no, no, he's going to go steal

848
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 1>and take someone's someone else's city, right, And so you

849
00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>can see the natural next leap when you get to

850
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that into that sense and says it's you know, he's

851
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>sandowing to it. Well, that makes a lot of sense, right,

852
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>because that's where his mentality is.

853
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.039
<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, oh well.

854
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, might as well, right, might as well make good

855
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of it, make use of it. And the other thing too,

856
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is you can clearly tell in there that he's deliberately

857
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 1>hiding this from from Noah right because he does not

858
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 1>want Noah to know this, because Noah would not be happy.

859
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 6>Hi.

860
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.719
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861
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862
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<v Speaker 7>tried to explain why I became a member of the

863
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 7>Prometheus Lens Exclusive membership area, I mean, I am so

864
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<v Speaker 7>blessed to be able to listen to some of the

865
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 7>awesome presenters and speakers and content that Justin is providing

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<v Speaker 7>and the.

867
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<v Speaker 4>Prometheus Lens podcast.

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869
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:59.400
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870
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 7>as we live in what I like to call the

871
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:08.000
<v Speaker 7>world of the Grand Conspiracy, we all need this information.

872
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:09.880
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873
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874
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.119
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875
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876
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00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.679
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<v Speaker 7>And you know what I like, probably more than anything,

888
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 7>is Justin is just.

889
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 2>A normal guy. You can tell he's genuine.

890
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 7>He's doing it because he feels called to it, is

891
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 7>a passion for it, and something about that drive encourages

892
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.800
<v Speaker 7>me to just throw a few bucks his way. If

893
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 7>he was here, maybe I'd just buy him coffees once

894
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 7>in a while. But he's a good guy, So Justin

895
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 7>keep it up. Thank you for what you're doing. Everybody else,

896
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.199
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897
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 7>in the can, by a guy, a couple whoppers, and

898
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 7>have a blessed day.

899
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<v Speaker 2>George's hi.

900
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.119
<v Speaker 1>The other interesting thing about this that you get in

901
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 1>jubilees that makes things make a whole lot more sense

902
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 1>is geography and understan standing how everything was divided up

903
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 1>after the flood. You know, we don't get that in

904
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Genesis ten and the Table of Nations when we're talking

905
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.280
<v Speaker 1>about that, it doesn't get into detail on how things

906
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>were divided up and what you find out. And you

907
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 1>can kind of if you really are if you're really

908
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 1>savvy and you're really good and you really dig in there,

909
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you'll kind of connect the dots in the Bible.

910
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>But man, most people are not going to do it.

911
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:24.760
<v Speaker 2>You need a map with names.

912
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You need a map with names, and you're really going

913
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:29.199
<v Speaker 1>to have to really think on multiple levels deep.

914
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.440
<v Speaker 2>And then you think you would need a map from

915
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Genesis to the map when they went into the land.

916
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're going to need all that. But geography is important, right, Yeah,

917
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And what Jubileese does is it clearly outlines Okay, we

918
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 1>just had the flood happen, right, and we wipe everything clean. Well,

919
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>now there's three sons, right, how are we going to

920
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>divide up the whole earth between these three boys? And

921
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 1>so they sit down and they have a plan. Well,

922
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Shim got a larger portion because he was the first born,

923
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.039
<v Speaker 1>which is very normal, right, So he gets his portion,

924
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.079
<v Speaker 1>and Ham gets his portion, and granted, we've already had

925
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the event happen in the tent where we saw him

926
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 1>naked and all this, and we covered him up, and

927
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>then we have Jafath, and so he gets his portion.

928
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And what you find out was when it goes through

929
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the boundary lines for each of these brothers, because then

930
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the brothers have sons, right, and so now we've got

931
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 1>all these different people, how are we going to divide

932
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:26.400
<v Speaker 1>up the earth.

933
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.159
<v Speaker 2>And so they kind of.

934
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Meet in secret, if you will, and kind of divide

935
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 1>things up even beyond that, and then they go to

936
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Noah right before he dies, not too long before he dies,

937
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 1>and tell him, okay, here's how we agreed to do,

938
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, divide everything up. And so Noah's like, okay,

939
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you all agree. Just promised me that you won't start

940
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 1>to kill each other and fight over each other's land,

941
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, from here on out, because that's why we

942
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 1>had the flood, you know. Don't start shedding blood again

943
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 1>and murdering each other and drinking blood and doing all

944
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.519
<v Speaker 1>the things we were doing before the flood. And they're like, oh, Daddy,

945
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>we promised. And then, of course, the minute he dies

946
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 1>they start going at each other. But one of the

947
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 1>things that you find is Abraham came from Schem's line,

948
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 1>and obviously Canaan came from Ham's line. Well Canaan, and

949
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>it clearly says it in the Book of Jubilees. When

950
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 1>they were dividing things up, he went to where he

951
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, what his portion was, and he looked around.

952
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you know, for lack of a better term,

953
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 1>this sucks. I don't like it here. So he's like, hey,

954
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to go back over to the you know,

955
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 1>this land over here, which is now you know what

956
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 1>would become the Promised Land modern day Israel, and then

957
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>even more territory beyond that. And he's like, I'm taking this.

958
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 1>And his brother and his dad, his brothers and his

959
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.639
<v Speaker 1>dad went to him and said, don't do that, or

960
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be cursed forever, you and your offspring,

961
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>because we promised and made an note to God that

962
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't do this, and we promised, you know, dad

963
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and granddad, we wouldn't do this in each other. And

964
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeh, and I'm doing it anyway, and he

965
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.199
<v Speaker 1>does it. So ultimately, what we see in the Bible

966
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is you know, a lot of times we just think

967
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 1>God magically picked this land out for them to go

968
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>ahead and take ownership of and he's taking it away

969
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>from someone else. That's not really what's happening. What's actually

970
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.760
<v Speaker 1>really happening is God is giving back the land that

971
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 1>already rightfully belonged to them through lineage anyway, and was

972
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 1>stolen from them by the Canaanites and by Him and

973
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Canaan So it's it's actually God is righting or wrong

974
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 1>in that particular case. And so when we go in,

975
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>we can also see, you know, all of the things

976
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 1>that you know, we're going on there. We have all

977
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of the refium that have popped up everywhere in this

978
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:49.119
<v Speaker 1>area that they're going in and wiping out, you know,

979
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times even the women and the children.

980
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's a whole nother thing. But you know, people

981
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>don't understand that history and ultimately the promised land was

982
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to begin with, and it was stolen from them all

983
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the way back after the flood. So it's just kind

984
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 1>of a fascinating thing that, again you're not going to

985
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 1>get in the Bible, but you will get in the

986
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Book of Jubilees.

987
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 3>And why do you think that his name which I

988
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 3>have my own conjectures, but it's why do you think

989
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 3>that he was scrubbed from all the genealogies and lists

990
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:27.159
<v Speaker 3>inside of the sixty six book?

991
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Cannon the only thing that makes any sense to me.

992
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 1>And there's a little bit more to what I'm going

993
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to say, so I kind of explain that to why

994
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I think this the smoking gun for me keeps coming

995
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.760
<v Speaker 1>back to the Watchers. There's something to do with the watchers. Obviously,

996
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 1>we just didn't want that information in there. I think

997
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that there's been a concerted effort to have that information removed,

998
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>because if you start to dig into that, then you

999
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>start to dig into spiritual warfare, And if you dig

1000
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>into spiritual warfare and you dig into that backstory, then

1001
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to understand what Christ was doing. Reaphilippi at

1002
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 1>the base of Mount Hermone during the transfiguration and everything

1003
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 1>else up there, he's basically pointing at that event in

1004
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Genesis six and he's saying, I'm taking this back, and

1005
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I think that there are a lot of powers behind

1006
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 1>that that don't want the light of day to come out,

1007
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the information to come out, though they don't want to

1008
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>see the light of day, because it will remove a

1009
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of their power structure. One of the things is

1010
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.559
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church, because ultimately what we have happened is

1011
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Cesarea Philippi, is we have Peter becomes the first Pope.

1012
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's really the bit part, the minor part of

1013
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the story, that's not really what's happening there. What's happening

1014
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 1>there is a declaration of undoing of what happened in

1015
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Genesis six when the watchers came down and that became

1016
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Satan's battleground in Satan's home front, and this all goes

1017
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.119
<v Speaker 1>back together. One of the things that I've found where

1018
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>again we have another d it appears like something has

1019
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:05.599
<v Speaker 1>been altered, you know. And it's pretty hard to pend

1020
00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 1>the tale on the donkey of oh, we made a

1021
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 1>clerical error somewhere along the way, and then somebody just

1022
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>kept copying it over and over and over again. It

1023
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.599
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't hold water with me when you look at

1024
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:20.599
<v Speaker 1>the genealogical account of begetting ages right when people were born,

1025
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>when people had sons, when people died pre flood, the

1026
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 1>account with Genesis and Jubilees are in lockstep until we

1027
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>get to Jared and then magically we get off by

1028
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 1>like sixty or one hundred years or something like that.

1029
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>And that too is curious to me, because what do

1030
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.440
<v Speaker 1>we know happened in the days of Jared. Well, thanks

1031
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to the Book of Enoch, we know specifically during the

1032
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>days of Jared, who was Enoch's father, that's when the

1033
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Watchers came down. That's when the Watchers came down to

1034
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>try to assist mankind and then decided to do what

1035
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they decided to do.

1036
00:53:58.239 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Because we can.

1037
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Clearly sam implies descending.

1038
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:06.599
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and so we have again we have another clerical

1039
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.360
<v Speaker 1>error or some kind of issue that's popped up where

1040
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the accounts don't match anymore. And what's the commonality between

1041
00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the two the Watchers.

1042
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.280
<v Speaker 2>It was talking to a guy just in passing and

1043
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>he he listened to one of our shows, and so

1044
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 2>we get into this discussion of why he thinks things

1045
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 2>are messed up in the Bible. This is just yeah.

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00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:38.199
<v Speaker 2>And he said, well, I think it if they don't

1047
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:41.119
<v Speaker 2>bring up the Watchers or any kind of spiritual being,

1048
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:44.559
<v Speaker 2>that's all on us. We're the ones that screwed up,

1049
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>and they can control us that way. They said, if

1050
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:53.159
<v Speaker 2>there's any outside influence of something happening. He said, then

1051
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.440
<v Speaker 2>he goes it ruins their whole hierarchy, It ruins the

1052
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 2>power being able to Lord. And that was just some

1053
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:03.480
<v Speaker 2>dude that that's pretty pretty. See.

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00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:08.840
<v Speaker 3>I think Christians, I think they change a lot of

1055
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:15.639
<v Speaker 3>that stuff to try to protect or help God because

1056
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 3>we I see stuff like that all the time. You know,

1057
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 3>like when you get into Uh Samuel and the Book

1058
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:27.280
<v Speaker 3>of Kings where it talks about David doing the census.

1059
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, in the original one it says that Yahweh

1060
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.559
<v Speaker 3>tempts David to do a census and he fails the temptation,

1061
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 3>and Yahweh becomes angry with him. Then when you get

1062
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 3>to the Book of Kings you get the retelling of

1063
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 3>that story, Well, then it becomes uh, the Hacitan tempts

1064
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 3>David to take the census and becomes angry. So it's like,

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00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 3>my opinion is the person retelling the story sees that,

1066
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, that makes that makes Yahweh look bad. Uh,

1067
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put the Hacitan dead because it paints Yeahweh

1068
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.239
<v Speaker 3>in a better life, right, you know, I'm protecting the

1069
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 3>image of Yahweh. And then just as we talked pre Roll,

1070
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 3>we've both talked to Doug van Dorn, and in his

1071
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 3>book Conspiracy Theory, he plainly lays out that the masoretic

1072
00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:28.039
<v Speaker 3>texts have been changed in the genealogies and they've extended

1073
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 3>the life of Shim to purposefully make him alive during

1074
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.679
<v Speaker 3>the days of Melchisa Dex so they can say that

1075
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 3>Shim was Malkisa Dect, not Jesus. And we all know

1076
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 3>how they felt about Jesus, so they did not want

1077
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:46.000
<v Speaker 3>anybody pointing back to Melkisa dec and making that connection

1078
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 3>with Jesus like they tried to do in the Book

1079
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:50.239
<v Speaker 3>of Hebrews. So how do they do that. We'll just

1080
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.760
<v Speaker 3>manipulate the text. We'll make Shim a couple hundred years

1081
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 3>older and or ever how long. I can't remember how

1082
00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 3>long it was, but we'll just extend his life so

1083
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.360
<v Speaker 3>that way he's a lie during the days of Melkisa

1084
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:04.800
<v Speaker 3>dec and boom, that's whom Malkisa dec is, not Jesus.

1085
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 3>And interesting, right here you have this blood line of Christ.

1086
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what they're showing within these genealogies. So the original one,

1087
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.440
<v Speaker 3>if they were historically correct, had this kandom guy in

1088
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 3>it and then somebody my opinion, seeing it, was like, ooh,

1089
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:29.239
<v Speaker 3>this was a bad dude. It kind of taints the

1090
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:32.639
<v Speaker 3>blood line of Christ. I will just get rid of him.

1091
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:38.239
<v Speaker 3>Will help the image of Christ. Yeah, I mean hell

1092
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:43.360
<v Speaker 3>is paved, you know, with the roads of good intention. Yeah,

1093
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:45.679
<v Speaker 3>I probably butchered that phrase, but you know what I'm

1094
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:51.199
<v Speaker 3>getting at. And some people Christians, they get so tore

1095
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:53.440
<v Speaker 3>up man that they will put out those pitchforks and

1096
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 3>light those torches and come after me when I make

1097
00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.719
<v Speaker 3>comments like, you know, hey, the Bible is a divine

1098
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:03.480
<v Speaker 3>word of God. I believe one hundred percent that the

1099
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 3>overall arching theme of Christ salvation, the important things are

1100
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:13.280
<v Speaker 3>protected by the hand of God. But we clearly see

1101
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 3>that there's change has been made. And yeah, for you

1102
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:21.480
<v Speaker 3>to deny that is you just being in denial. I

1103
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.440
<v Speaker 3>mean we see it in the historical record. So it's

1104
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:27.880
<v Speaker 3>like and also you get warnings, you know, curse it

1105
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 3>is the man who adds or takes away from this word. Well,

1106
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 3>why I give that warning if it's impossible or not

1107
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:34.280
<v Speaker 3>happening to begin with?

1108
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Exactly? Yeap, ye had something I was going to say

1109
00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 2>that the whole David think God probably just used Satan

1110
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 2>as a proxy.

1111
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The other thing too, is like I'm listening to

1112
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>this and I'm like, man, isn't it isn't it just

1113
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>like man to think that it's to be so arrogant

1114
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:58.559
<v Speaker 1>to think that we need to protect God from himself.

1115
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 3>I know, do you have a pot or small business?

1116
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:06.119
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1117
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:11.159
<v Speaker 3>thousands of people each week for an entire year for

1118
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.559
<v Speaker 3>less than one car payment.

1119
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Now you have my attention.

1120
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for sponsors of this show. I know you

1121
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:22.000
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1122
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:25.760
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1123
00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:31.360
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1124
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1125
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:39.000
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1126
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.039
<v Speaker 3>my website pro meet this Lens podcast dot com, or

1127
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 3>reach out to me.

1128
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 2>On social media.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's talk and.

1130
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Let me show you how you can grow your brand

1131
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<v Speaker 3>effectively and cheaply.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I it's just the fallacy when you

1133
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:02.639
<v Speaker 1>really take a step back and you look in the

1134
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.480
<v Speaker 1>mirror of what you're really thinking is just like, yeah,

1135
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:07.599
<v Speaker 1>how about you just leave the leave God's job?

1136
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Alone, I will.

1137
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Say that I.

1138
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to get into it, but we have we

1139
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:16.719
<v Speaker 2>we knew somebody that a lot of bad things happen

1140
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.320
<v Speaker 2>with this family, and that is one thing I still

1141
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.960
<v Speaker 2>could my wife and I we still question why why

1142
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 2>would God let that happen? And I mean it was

1143
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 2>like it was devastating, and I mean these kids lost

1144
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 2>both their parents when they were young. Yeah, and I'm like,

1145
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I still I can't, you know, Yeah, And that was

1146
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 2>just like, that's and that's the only one I've ever questioned,

1147
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 2>can you believe that? No?

1148
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 3>And that's something I think a lot of atheists will

1149
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 3>straw man an attack, you know, the pain and suffering

1150
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:55.880
<v Speaker 3>of not just people in general, but even good people.

1151
01:00:56.719 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 3>And it's because the Church is not talking about the

1152
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:03.639
<v Speaker 3>supernatural worldview that is in the Bible.

1153
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 6>You know.

1154
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:09.519
<v Speaker 3>Deteronomi thirty two says plainly that the earth, the nations,

1155
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 3>the peoples were divided amongst the sons of God, the

1156
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 3>benehai Elohem. So it's the rulers and principalities that Paul's

1157
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:21.039
<v Speaker 3>talking about. And then they'll say, oh, well, if your

1158
01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 3>God is real, you know, look at the world around you.

1159
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Why is it so evil. I mean, if your god's real,

1160
01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:30.440
<v Speaker 3>he's just a crappy god. No, it's because these rulers

1161
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 3>and principalities are still ruling today by proxy through the leaders.

1162
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 3>And God is a god of his word. He made

1163
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:43.400
<v Speaker 3>a contract with his sons, you know, the princes, and

1164
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:48.320
<v Speaker 3>they are ruling. But when Jesus came, he declared his kingdom,

1165
01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 3>which he said, his kingdom is not of this world,

1166
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.800
<v Speaker 3>and all authority and power being given unto him. Yes,

1167
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:55.360
<v Speaker 3>that's true, but his kingdom is not.

1168
01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Of this world.

1169
01:01:56.079 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 3>So therefore we have to revoke our citizens from these

1170
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 3>rulers and principalities and apply for citizenship for his kingdom.

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01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That's awesome man, that's sure. It's like every time

1172
01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I hear that, it's a I love hearing that. I

1173
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:19.320
<v Speaker 2>mean that just it's totally different than the salvation message

1174
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.920
<v Speaker 2>that we hear every day. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's a

1175
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>great stagnation that's happened to among Really what we're talking

1176
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:28.679
<v Speaker 2>that's really what we're talking about, right, I was one

1177
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of them. So like, if you're listening to me and

1178
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you think I'm being judging you, no, I'm just speaking

1179
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:35.039
<v Speaker 2>from personal experience because I was one of those people.

1180
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:35.760
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1181
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I always like to say that I was the most

1182
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:39.880
<v Speaker 1>dangerous Christian. I was luke warm, you know, and neither

1183
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:41.519
<v Speaker 1>hot nor cold. I spit you out of my mouth.

1184
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I went to Ajuana as a kid. I had all

1185
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.440
<v Speaker 1>these Bible verses rattling around upstairs, but I wasn't doing

1186
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:48.599
<v Speaker 1>anything for it. I was completely useless when it came

1187
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to being useful for God.

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01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1189
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of living my life, and God

1190
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:54.519
<v Speaker 1>was there in the drawer to get out when I

1191
01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 1>needed him and go to church on Sunday and check

1192
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.679
<v Speaker 1>the box and do the thing. And that is a

1193
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 1>very stagnant way to you. Don't your faith is dead,

1194
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just have a dead faith and when

1195
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you start to dig in God. Mike Kiser said it best.

1196
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:12.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, why are we trying to protect people from

1197
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.639
<v Speaker 1>their Bibles? You know, why are we doing that. We

1198
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:17.320
<v Speaker 1>don't need to do that. We don't need to protect

1199
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.360
<v Speaker 1>people from God. God is here to God's an open book,

1200
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:24.599
<v Speaker 1>right to tell us what happened. Here's the truth, here's

1201
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the the reality of everything. Here's where you come from.

1202
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Because I think that's for me, that's like I just

1203
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:31.599
<v Speaker 1>want to know where I come from, Like, I want

1204
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.039
<v Speaker 1>to know the backstory, right, I want to know the truth.

1205
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.119
<v Speaker 1>And I find so much of the time I am

1206
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:41.480
<v Speaker 1>taking all of I have forty years of bad dogma

1207
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that I was taught that the more I study actual

1208
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 1>what God's word has to say and dive into my Bible,

1209
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 1>it's just man made garbage, you know. And I'm having

1210
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.039
<v Speaker 1>to undo a lot of the things that I was

1211
01:03:54.119 --> 01:03:57.119
<v Speaker 1>taught that are just not even scriptural, or they're a

1212
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:01.599
<v Speaker 1>misinterpretation of scripture, you know, for whatever reason, either because

1213
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of ignorance or because they've twisted it to fit what

1214
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the agenda was.

1215
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1216
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:09.440
<v Speaker 1>And when I go when I read this kind of stuff,

1217
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's fascinating to me because I think this

1218
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.880
<v Speaker 1>is I think this is true because we can see

1219
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it in our Bibles.

1220
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Right. We may not get the full picture in our Bibles.

1221
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.039
<v Speaker 2>But those guys in Kumran sure seem like they were

1222
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, on the track of having some

1223
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.880
<v Speaker 2>extra information that we have just been have been removed

1224
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:34.159
<v Speaker 2>from us, right and deliberately kind of shoved in the drawer.

1225
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know, for me, I like to.

1226
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Dive in, right, And we kind of talked about this

1227
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.599
<v Speaker 1>before we started recording as well, and of like, you know,

1228
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 1>what's the real backstory here and why their question is why,

1229
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:52.440
<v Speaker 1>because that leads you to another step in the hole. Right,

1230
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 1>So when I started diving in, then I started diving

1231
01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:01.800
<v Speaker 1>into Kumaran. And personally, it's my belief that I think

1232
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:05.079
<v Speaker 1>that the people in Kumaran were not as scenes necessarily.

1233
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they were actually the lineage of the Ironic priesthood,

1234
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the Levi priesthood that was kicked out of the temple

1235
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:17.920
<v Speaker 1>back in the Maccabean period. Because you can go back

1236
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to that time and you can see that when the

1237
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Macabean War happened about one hundred and sixty years before

1238
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:28.400
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty BC, you can see that they

1239
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.119
<v Speaker 1>took over the priesthood and it was a split.

1240
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1241
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Christ actually kind of alludes to this, and I think

1242
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.480
<v Speaker 1>it's in Matthew twenty three, and this is the famous

1243
01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of scene where we're in front of the temple

1244
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and you know he's kind of talking to the crowd

1245
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:45.639
<v Speaker 1>and talking to the disciples afterwards, because then that's when

1246
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the Matthew twenty four is when they started asking about

1247
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, what's going to happen in the end times,

1248
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's basically predicting the seventy a d. You know,

1249
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Romans are going to come in and burn everything down.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he talks about the end of the age.

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<v Speaker 1>But in Matthew twenty three, he's talking to the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>and he basically tells them in Matthew twenty three, you

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01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.480
<v Speaker 1>need to listen to the Pharisees because they're teaching you

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01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the law, all right, and because they sit and he

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01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 1>actually says because they sit in Moses's seat, which is

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01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:15.760
<v Speaker 1>an interesting line, and it fits pretty well with what

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01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I just said and what we can tell historically. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he goes on and he says, but you don't

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01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.519
<v Speaker 1>need to do what they do because they're hypocrites. Right.

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01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.960
<v Speaker 1>They're teaching you the law, but they're also hypocrites to

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01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the law because they're either not following it themselves or

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01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 1>they're using it to lord over you and control you.

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01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:35.599
<v Speaker 1>And so I think when they got kicked out, that

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01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 1>whole group of priests that had to go somewhere, and

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01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 1>I think they wound up over in Cumran. And another

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01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 1>thing that makes me think that's the case, and the

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01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 1>research that I've done is and granted we're still finding stuff,

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01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:50.760
<v Speaker 1>so maybe at some point if we find more scrolls

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01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll find them. But there is not a

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<v Speaker 1>scrap of anything that they have found in Cumran of

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01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 1>all of these tens of thousands or if not more,

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01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.280
<v Speaker 1>fragments of anything to do with the Maccabees.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a scrap.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would kind of tend to lean towards the

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01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:09.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that these folks over in this area in Kumaran,

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01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.280
<v Speaker 1>whoever they were, were not pro Maccabee, which if you

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01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 1>go back and you look and you figure out, well, yeah,

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01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:18.599
<v Speaker 1>they're probably not. If it's really the Levite priests and

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01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the lineage of the Leevite priests like John John the Baptist,

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01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:27.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, they got kicked out man, and they're not

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01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:29.760
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to be Hey, let's have a bunch

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01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of books of these dudes and tell their little Yaya

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01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:35.920
<v Speaker 1>war stories. So it just seems to fit. I'm kind

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01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:38.159
<v Speaker 1>of on the camp right now. If fits in Cumron,

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01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:41.159
<v Speaker 1>it's good for me. I think it's safe to read now.

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<v Speaker 1>I would still tell everybody to read it. Vett it

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01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.000
<v Speaker 1>against known scripture, and if you can punch holes in it,

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01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe you got some questions, but do some more digging

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01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.679
<v Speaker 1>because technically you can do that with jubilees as well,

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01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:55.800
<v Speaker 1>because the lineages don't line up like we've talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>But the more I.

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01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Die, almost divine revelation, you know. Yeah, forty nine Israel

1293
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:05.320
<v Speaker 3>becomes a nation. And then the the nog Hamadi gnostic

1294
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:07.800
<v Speaker 3>texts were found and they're like, oh, well, Jesus had

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01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:11.280
<v Speaker 3>relationships with another woman, and they're saying that there's another way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a Christ's conscience, and oh man, look at all

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01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.640
<v Speaker 3>these missing books. And then God's like no, no, no, no, no,

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01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.800
<v Speaker 3>wait second, look over here in these caves. That's right,

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01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:22.680
<v Speaker 3>and then boom them were found right after.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interest just God's timing. Yep, for sure. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna veer just a little bit, but not too far.

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01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Spoken to the ten four half club, this is what

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01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:37.279
<v Speaker 2>happens if you want to know. This is what we

1304
01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:44.800
<v Speaker 2>do with astrology and things. I think miss it. Somebody

1305
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:46.640
<v Speaker 2>said this. I can't remember who it is, but I'll

1306
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:52.640
<v Speaker 2>take credit for it. There you go. Congratulations, Ben, it's

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01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:54.600
<v Speaker 2>a true thing because I'm right, that's right.

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01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Virtual pat on the back.

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01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I think the Three Wise Men you know they followed

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01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the stars. I think they were either they were part

1311
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:11.399
<v Speaker 2>of the descendants from when they got exiled to Babylon

1312
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.159
<v Speaker 2>that were a Jewish line that still lived there because

1313
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 2>they knew. It wasn't just like these three random guys

1314
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.359
<v Speaker 2>saw this star and showed up. They knew the stars,

1315
01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 2>they understood what was happened, They understood scripture, and they

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01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:31.840
<v Speaker 2>were going because they were They've been preparing themselves this

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01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:35.520
<v Speaker 2>whole time. Like we could say that they were like

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01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the first fringy dudes. That kind of fits.

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01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:40.720
<v Speaker 1>It fits because if you think about what our discussion

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01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:43.000
<v Speaker 1>was earlier when we were got talking kind of obviously

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01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 1>in that whole area up there, one of the things

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01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that they undoubtedly were exposed to in the exile and

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01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Babylon would have been all of this sun moon God worship.

1324
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:54.800
<v Speaker 2>And they understood and they understood it was actually God,

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01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:56.800
<v Speaker 2>and that's why they had to go.

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01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.159
<v Speaker 3>And I've heard some people say that it was uh

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01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:06.520
<v Speaker 3>actually Babylonian magi. Yeah, they their belief system had crossed

1328
01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 3>pollinated with the Jewish people while they were there in exile,

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01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:15.319
<v Speaker 3>like the Jewish people had taught them their faith, their scriptures,

1330
01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:18.000
<v Speaker 3>and it kind of just cross pollinated and they had

1331
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 3>that and when they seen it they remembered, yeah, the

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01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.840
<v Speaker 3>teachings and went after it. Mm maybe one or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's like they knew something that the

1334
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 2>rest of the people didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes sense to me. It could very well

1336
01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.640
<v Speaker 1>be in the travel the other thing. Travel time is

1337
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:39.439
<v Speaker 1>not typically what we're taught in Sunday School.

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01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:43.239
<v Speaker 3>It took a couple of three months to find them

1339
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:44.119
<v Speaker 3>after they saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>That would have been Daniel and knowledge increased. There you go,

1341
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:52.720
<v Speaker 2>mm hmmm, there you go. Sorry, my little tidbit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, guys, now now's the time. If you guys got websites, blog,

1344
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:05.279
<v Speaker 3>YouTube's anything you want to direct the listeners to to

1345
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:07.000
<v Speaker 3>find your guys's content.

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01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, man.

1347
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, So you can check us out THETFHC dot com.

1348
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.600
<v Speaker 1>We've got everything on there. If you are listening on YouTube,

1349
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:19.039
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1350
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:20.920
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01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:24.520
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01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I think we're at the TFCHC on YouTube and then

1353
01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the TFHC on pretty much everything else. I think we're

1354
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:34.800
<v Speaker 1>at the TFHC on TikTok as well, So if you

1355
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:36.600
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1356
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.760
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1357
01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:44.399
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1358
01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:46.119
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1359
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.039
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01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.479
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1361
01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:53.720
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1362
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:55.680
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01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.479
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1366
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So hey, we'd love to have you guys join the foil. Yeah,

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01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:08.960
<v Speaker 1>join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks man.

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01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I appreciate you guys and appreciate the conversation. And

1370
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:18.039
<v Speaker 3>this was something that I've not actually entertained or looked into,

1371
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:21.039
<v Speaker 3>so I actually really enjoyed this ride. So I'd like

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01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:22.000
<v Speaker 3>to thank you for that.

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01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, thanks a lot. It's been on been awesome. Yeah.

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01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll have you back and we'll pick another subject

1375
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:31.279
<v Speaker 3>and maybe I'll be a better student and have some

1376
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:34.720
<v Speaker 3>stuff to bring to the discussion next time, No problem,

1377
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:35.800
<v Speaker 3>that's maybe.

1378
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I've got a really good one we could talk about.

1379
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, give him the teeth the one hundred and

1380
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 2>fifty three.

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01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Fish, okay, one hundred and fifty three two.

1382
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:50.079
<v Speaker 3>The one hundred and fifty three fish, y'all.

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01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from when they were fishing and Jesus was on

1384
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:57.119
<v Speaker 2>the bank and they hadn't caught anything all night, and

1385
01:12:57.159 --> 01:12:59.479
<v Speaker 2>he was like, through your nets to the other side,

1386
01:12:59.479 --> 01:13:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and they're we haven't got anything on do it? And

1387
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:05.479
<v Speaker 2>they pull it in. Why does John say one hundred

1388
01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and fifty three fish and none of the other gospels

1389
01:13:08.079 --> 01:13:13.560
<v Speaker 2>say anything. Go ahead and tell them why, No, that's

1390
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:17.560
<v Speaker 2>they got to come back. There's a reason. Yes, it

1391
01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:20.880
<v Speaker 2>goes all the way back to Genesis, all the way

1392
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:22.439
<v Speaker 2>back to Ephraim.

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01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.119
<v Speaker 1>No man, everything Christ did was say so it was awesome.

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01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, guys, thank you for tuning in. I hope you

1396
01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:34.920
<v Speaker 3>enjoy that. And it's always the difference between the known

1397
01:13:35.119 --> 01:14:03.039
<v Speaker 3>and the unknown is the journey. Good journey, guys, do

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<v Speaker 5>Start b
