Speaker 1: This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 1: for early December. Only thing better. It could be just
Speaker 1: a real nice snow at some point, right, a good
Speaker 1: safe snow. Maybe you know, when nobody's on the roads.
Speaker 1: Is there such a time just to get in the
Speaker 1: Christmas sphere? But glad you're here. I treat it as
Speaker 1: an open line Friday. Obviously it's Friday, but pretty much
Speaker 1: every day now is open lines, open topic because the
Speaker 1: world's just moving that quickly. I think the days of
Speaker 1: just okay, you got this one topic and you're banging
Speaker 1: out for half an hour an hour, I think those
Speaker 1: are long long gone. It's just the speed of sound
Speaker 1: right now. A lot of ground to cover. Of course,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Daniel Penny persecution in New York,
Speaker 1: a case that never should have been brought. It's the
Speaker 1: kind of case that really undermines confidence in the justice system,
Speaker 1: and this is a second such case out of New York.
Speaker 1: Obviously we've talked about in a short period of time,
Speaker 1: which heightens that concern, but also the lesson for all
Speaker 1: of us that I want to get to, and it's
Speaker 1: sad we've reached the point in America where we have
Speaker 1: to talk about this kind of reality. Get to that
Speaker 1: in a second. The latest on the Penny case, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know from the headlines by now, is that, yeah,
Speaker 1: the jurors deadlocked. But at this point, unless there's been
Speaker 1: something new on my drive over here, we don't know
Speaker 1: the number of that deadlock, nor would I expect that
Speaker 1: we know how many jurors had voted in favor of
Speaker 1: conviction versus acquittal on the primary manslaughter charge, and we
Speaker 1: don't know that at this point because they're still deliberating.
Speaker 1: And now they're deliberating a lesser charge of criminally negligent homicides,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what the jury does with that. Anything
Speaker 1: short of an acquittal I think, would again just undermine
Speaker 1: confidence in the system, and the starting point is be
Speaker 1: so fundamentally unfair to mister Penny, and would also just
Speaker 1: under public safety further, because you know, at least in
Speaker 1: New York, and I think beyond how many people are
Speaker 1: going to be willing to help out and protect others
Speaker 1: if all of the sudden, if you have a lefty prosecutor,
Speaker 1: you could be facing years in prison and the destruction
Speaker 1: of your life. So just added to all the damage
Speaker 1: that's done to everyday life by these far lefties who've
Speaker 1: taken over the Democratic Party and just cause an awful
Speaker 1: lot of misery, it's also a reminder that other than
Speaker 1: the vote for president, I think the most important vote
Speaker 1: people cast is the vote for their local district attorney,
Speaker 1: because that woman or man has the ability to destroy people,
Speaker 1: as Kamala Harris loved to brag, with just the stroke
Speaker 1: of a pen, and at the same time, a good
Speaker 1: DA you know, can just be that rock in a community.
Speaker 1: You know, law enforcement has confidence, criminals know if they
Speaker 1: go there, they're going to be prosecuted. So unless you're
Speaker 1: in a swing state, it is the most important vote
Speaker 1: you'll cast. Normally, if you're in a swing state, yeah,
Speaker 1: then it's probably president eight four zero five A two
Speaker 1: five to five.
Speaker 2: Question Dan on the legal aspect of what happened with
Speaker 2: Daniel Penny here and the jurors being stuck on the
Speaker 2: greater manslaughter charge and the second degree the judge dismissed
Speaker 2: that does mean does that mean that Daniel Penny cannot
Speaker 2: be charged with that again?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what happened was the DA dismissed it. And
Speaker 1: what the DA did because listen, obviously there's been so
Speaker 1: much outrage in America that that charge was even brought,
Speaker 1: and when they couldn't get a jury to convict on it,
Speaker 1: you know, the DA went ahead and dismissed it, not magnanimously.
Speaker 4: Was that Alvin Bragg who did that.
Speaker 1: It's his office and it would have been whatever deputy
Speaker 1: was handling that. But the reason the DA did it
Speaker 1: was was hoping that could then facilitate a conviction of
Speaker 1: Penny on the lesser criminally negligent homicide, So that that
Speaker 1: was their strategy there. But and you know, listen, unless
Speaker 1: you're in the courtroom, and I've covered some really big
Speaker 1: trials in the court and for media, and I try
Speaker 1: a lot of my own cases. I'll be in a
Speaker 1: jury trial next week and we'll have just an all
Speaker 1: star lineup in here doing the show while I'm in trial.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think the over under on my key
Speaker 1: card working. When I get back I think it's an
Speaker 1: under right now. I think the bet is my key
Speaker 1: card will not be active when I get back here,
Speaker 1: because we've got some really good folks sown in, which
Speaker 1: is a point of pride for me, Ryan because over
Speaker 1: the years, you know, you watch it on late night
Speaker 1: TV and other places. You see at some places in radio,
Speaker 1: some places, not all, but when people are going to
Speaker 1: have a sub, the last thing they want is a
Speaker 1: great sub. Last thing they want is somebody who people say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, I like that backup quarterback. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: trade the quarterback. Nobody wants that. I've always gone out
Speaker 1: of my way to get great subs, respect for the audience,
Speaker 1: and you know, you want to add value to people's lives.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've got a great crew coming in next week,
Speaker 1: George Brockler, Christy Burton, Brown, Heidi Ganall, de Braah Flora.
Speaker 1: So it'll be a great group. While I am off
Speaker 1: in the courtroom d N five seven, seven thirty nine.
Speaker 1: So let's hope the jury does the right thing and acquits.
Speaker 1: But the point I was making before that was, Okay,
Speaker 1: how many people do you think we're really voting for
Speaker 1: conviction on that manslaughter charge? In the pennycase. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure you remember the Penny Caase the New York subway
Speaker 1: where this former marine hero Daniel Penny save the people
Speaker 1: on the subway from a drugged up psycho guy threatening
Speaker 1: to kill and doing all sorts of wild things. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't possibly know from a radio studio,
Speaker 1: but if you're in the courtroom all the time and
Speaker 1: you're watching the jury, then my guess is that the
Speaker 1: attorneys in the courtroom probably have a pretty good feel
Speaker 1: for whether this was an eleven to one deal with
Speaker 1: one person holding up the acquittal, and from a distance,
Speaker 1: that would be my guess that it was one or
Speaker 1: two or some small number holding up the acquittal, and
Speaker 1: just based on the state of the evidence, that the
Speaker 1: vast majority wanted to acquit find not guilty. And that's
Speaker 1: probably also what contributed to the dismissal of that charge
Speaker 1: rather than trying to retry him on that. But Penny
Speaker 1: is still in jeopardy because the jury continues to deliberate
Speaker 1: and on Monday they'll resume with that criminally negligent homicide charge.
Speaker 1: The bigger lesson from that is something that I would
Speaker 1: have never imagined even thinking about when I first started
Speaker 1: on air almost thirty years ago, and that is I
Speaker 1: can just tell you for myself, but you got to
Speaker 1: make your own decisions. It makes an enormous amount of
Speaker 1: difference what county you are in if something bad happens,
Speaker 1: because if you've got a politically motivated sorrows type lefty
Speaker 1: DA who is willing to pervert justice, ignore justice, have
Speaker 1: two standards of justice, then all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 1: not in America anymore because guess what, those normally aren't
Speaker 1: federal charges. Let's say you decide you're going to New
Speaker 1: York or in my constitutionally protected opinion of Beth McCann
Speaker 1: Denver with Beth McCann as DA, and I like Beth,
Speaker 1: we've had her on the show, but as a DA,
Speaker 1: my protected opinion as yeah, I think politics gets in
Speaker 1: the way there. So if you happen to be in
Speaker 1: some jurisdiction with the politically motivated lefty DA, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can't depend on the law being
Speaker 1: enforced properly. In my opinion, you can't depend on the
Speaker 1: law being enforced fairly, whether we're talking about you're the
Speaker 1: victim of some kind of attacked or a loved one
Speaker 1: is and is are you going to get justice? Is
Speaker 1: the attacker? Is the criminal going to be prosecuted? You
Speaker 1: can't count on the law being applied fairly in my opinion,
Speaker 1: in those lefty sorrols type DA jurisdictions. And at the
Speaker 1: same time, if you have to defend yourself or defend
Speaker 1: others in a situation in a jurisdiction like that, my opinion, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't depend on the law being applied fairly. And
Speaker 1: that's not a reflection on law enforcement. I think there's
Speaker 1: enormous consistency in law enforcement all over the country, and
Speaker 1: with the dad as a thirty year cop in Chicago
Speaker 1: represent a lot of cops, etc. In their injury cases.
Speaker 1: I think there's consistency all over America because you normally
Speaker 1: get the same kind of person who wants to be
Speaker 1: a cop. And other than in every walk of life,
Speaker 1: every profession has a few bad apples, other than the
Speaker 1: bad apples, it's normally good, smart, strong, courageous people who
Speaker 1: want to protect and serve, And so you get this consistency.
Speaker 1: Where you get the wild variance is with these elected
Speaker 1: das and the politically motivated lefties. Then at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like you're in America anymore. With the good das
Speaker 1: whether they're Democrat, Republican, etc. The ones who just view
Speaker 1: it as a sacred trust to enforce the law law,
Speaker 1: then you're in America. And that is a very very
Speaker 1: sad point we've come to. But Daniel Penny is exhibit
Speaker 1: A or A one. Donald Trump, that persecution in New
Speaker 1: York exhibit A or A one. But you can point
Speaker 1: to stuff locally as well. I mean, look at what
Speaker 1: happened after the the mob crimes in Denver, you know,
Speaker 1: following the death of George Floyd. Did we see the
Speaker 1: law enforced equally there against large numbers of people who
Speaker 1: violated the law, desecrated the capital, etc. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think we did. And then you see some of the
Speaker 1: stuff done to conservatives. Well eight five five for zero
Speaker 1: five A two five five the number d A N
Speaker 1: five seven seven three nine lines in Fuego. Great guest today,
Speaker 1: by the way, John Castillo, father of hero Kendrick, at
Speaker 1: four thirty six, and another John Caldera, joins us at
Speaker 1: five oh six. Fascinating story he has on gang activity
Speaker 1: in Colorado and many more. You're on the DAN Capla.
Speaker 4: Show and now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast ABC.
Speaker 5: The view did this and I was looking at some
Speaker 5: of the social media comments, and I try to stay
Speaker 5: away from social media, but it said some of the
Speaker 5: comments were thoughts and deductibles to the family. One of
Speaker 5: the comments was, unfortunately, my condolences are out of network,
Speaker 5: and so I think it really isn't that something. I
Speaker 5: really think it's reflective about how people are feeling about
Speaker 5: their healthcare. And if you look at this particular ceo,
Speaker 5: while he made about ten million dollars a year, which
Speaker 5: is not actually unusual for CEO of a company this size,
Speaker 5: this particular health company, United Healthcare, is the largest company
Speaker 5: that responsible for Medicare Medicare programs for people.
Speaker 1: Over the age of sixty five.
Speaker 5: And our country is one of the only countries that
Speaker 5: doesn't have universal health care, and we don't take care
Speaker 5: of our elderly, and people are feeling the pinch, and
Speaker 5: we talk about that all the.
Speaker 1: Time, and oh my lord, I can't believe they're trying
Speaker 1: to use the assassination of this ceo, you know, to
Speaker 1: push socialized medicine. And listen, I fight insurance companies every day.
Speaker 1: I'll be out on next week in a core room,
Speaker 1: you know, in a jury trial. You know where we're
Speaker 1: taking on an insurance company. So I get that, and
Speaker 1: I get the anger, and I've devoted a big chunk
Speaker 1: of my adult life to helping people get fairness from
Speaker 1: insurance companies. But every decent, rational American understands that that
Speaker 1: there is never an excuse for violence like this, and
Speaker 1: so for them to try to use that to push
Speaker 1: socialized health, I mean that's just perverted eight five to
Speaker 1: five for zero five eight two five five the number.
Speaker 1: And you think they would be more careful. You think
Speaker 1: they would be more careful with all the threats out
Speaker 1: there and all the wackos, and the number of wackos
Speaker 1: as we go to the phone lines increasing exponentially as
Speaker 1: so called legalized drugs takeover. I mean, you know it,
Speaker 1: just look around, look around life. Look around a place
Speaker 1: like Colorado. You have so much more nuttiness and craziness
Speaker 1: and craziness on the roadways and craziness in everyday life
Speaker 1: because you got some more so many more people on drugs.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about that. So yeah, let's
Speaker 1: go to monument Colorado. Will start with Joe. You're on
Speaker 1: the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Speaker 6: Hey, Dan. I'm not a big believer in coincidence, So
Speaker 6: I'm wondering what you think about the release of the
Speaker 6: movie about Alan Berg's killing and white supremacist right in
Speaker 6: the lead up to the president's inauguration.
Speaker 1: Whoa brother, Take me back to the beginning the ellen
Speaker 1: Berg movie. Tell me about that because I'm not familiar
Speaker 1: with it. And then what is the tie in that
Speaker 1: you're making there?
Speaker 6: Well, the movie The Order is coming out right now.
Speaker 6: It is about white supremacy, white supremacists and them killing
Speaker 6: alan Berg back in what nineteen eighty four, I believe,
Speaker 6: And I just feel like, here's the left releasing a
Speaker 6: movie about white supremacy. They couldn't get to the president
Speaker 6: any other way, and I wonder if they're just trying
Speaker 6: to do it now.
Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate the call, my friend. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: know we have some sound on that we'll pull it up.
Speaker 1: And I certainly remember I never met Elinburg. I think
Speaker 1: I was on air with him once, if I remember right.
Speaker 1: I think I was on air with Allan once, but
Speaker 1: never met him. Wasn't a friend, but certainly remember the
Speaker 1: horrific killing. Remember the night it happened, and then the
Speaker 1: trials and everything to follow. Ryan, you say, we have
Speaker 1: some sound on that on the trailer. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's fire that on this movie that's coming out.
Speaker 1: In terms of whether there's some motive behind that relating
Speaker 1: to the President, I not that I can immediately think of.
Speaker 1: And listen, we've talked about it for a long time.
Speaker 1: You know, Donald Trump has been in extreme peril for
Speaker 1: a long time, and that peril went up exponentially when
Speaker 1: he made the courageous decision to protect American troops in
Speaker 1: America by taking out Sola money. You know that that
Speaker 1: evil terrorist general in Iran, and so the danger level
Speaker 1: went way way up. Then. Obviously Iran's been trying to
Speaker 1: kill him ever since. The US has admitted that, you
Speaker 1: have others trying to kill him, and then the Biden
Speaker 1: administration doing an unimaginably bad job, way beyond negligence in
Speaker 1: protecting them. So there's no doubt he's under constant threats.
Speaker 1: But I'm not at the point where I'm saying releasing
Speaker 1: a movie at a certain time is meant to increase
Speaker 1: that danger. But here's a shorter version of the trailer.
Speaker 1: Come on taking down your damn never say yet? Yo,
Speaker 1: how are you please? Ex million? What is that by
Speaker 1: an army? It's happening? War drawn too much tension. FBI,
Speaker 1: I've wandered car who I'm playing with her? You're not
Speaker 1: from here? Huh you're following me?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: We'll get Pete boils on on this. Pete is very
Speaker 1: very close to Alan And and as this movie comes
Speaker 1: more into the public consciousness, we'll do that. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Robin Denver. You're on the Dan Capitalist. You'll welcome.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan. I always enjoy your program. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: are always very thoughtful.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So I've been yeah, so I've been out of the
Speaker 3: area for about maybe about a year, overseas in Hawaii,
Speaker 3: different places. And uh, I guess, putting aside your obvious
Speaker 3: obvious love for Polish and as well as the mayor
Speaker 3: of Denver, I'm just kidding, but what what do you
Speaker 3: think the city of Denver is going to look like?
Speaker 3: This area is going to look like at this time
Speaker 3: next year, you know, with all the different forces on it.
Speaker 3: You know, I know it's hard for anybody to have
Speaker 3: a true crystal ball but what a great questions. You know, safety,
Speaker 3: every whatever you think is good.
Speaker 1: There no thank you for the question. What a great question.
Speaker 1: And by the way, when I set a second ago
Speaker 1: tell my wife that about being thoughtful, I meant politically.
Speaker 1: You know, my wife knows I'm a very thoughtful guy,
Speaker 1: but politically she doesn't always agree with what I have
Speaker 1: to say. Now to your great question, what is Denver
Speaker 1: going to look Thank you appreciate that. What is Denver
Speaker 1: going to look like in a year? I don't see
Speaker 1: any big significant change in the next year. And the
Speaker 1: reason I say that, my friend, is we're in an
Speaker 1: election cycle in Denver, now right, I mean in Colorado.
Speaker 1: But Mike Johnston wants to be governor of the state,
Speaker 1: and so he's going to be doing a lot of
Speaker 1: things in Denver to try to increase his chance of
Speaker 1: winning that office. So I don't at this point see
Speaker 1: any dramatic change in Denver in the next year. I
Speaker 1: think that Donald Trump now clearly is going to start,
Speaker 1: if if not start in Colorado. Colorado will be very
Speaker 1: high on his list for the deportation of criminal illegals
Speaker 1: and those who've been adjudicated in order to leave. So
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a lot of that
Speaker 1: activity in and around Denver in the next year. I
Speaker 1: do not expect to see lawless Mike follow through on
Speaker 1: his threat to Mountain Insurrection to try to physically stop
Speaker 1: federal law enforcement from carrying out the law. I think
Speaker 1: you'll see a lot of jabbering, maybe a lawsuit or two,
Speaker 1: but I think that'll probably be the biggest type of
Speaker 1: activity we see in Denver in the next year. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk sports, I could spoil your
Speaker 1: year by telling you how each and every team is
Speaker 1: going to do over the next year. But I know
Speaker 1: you don't want that.
Speaker 3: No, it sounds like, yeah, I mean nobody has a
Speaker 3: crystal ball, but I mean you know more about it
Speaker 3: than I do.
Speaker 1: Really interested here, Well, you're kind to ask, but that
Speaker 1: is my take. I think that's going to be the
Speaker 1: biggest visible change in Denver in the next year is
Speaker 1: all of this activity with the deportations, because again Johnston,
Speaker 1: Polus the rest have gone out of their way to
Speaker 1: attract illegals here, including criminal illegal So there's going to
Speaker 1: be a lot of activity.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, I'm so.
Speaker 1: Privileged to go to the VIP line and welcome John
Speaker 1: Castillo to the show. I'm sure you know John, and
Speaker 1: certainly you know of Kendrick's, son of John and Maria Kistio,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest heroes in Colorado history if you're
Speaker 1: new to the planet. Kendrick gave up his life to
Speaker 1: save his entire classroom from being methodically executed by demonic
Speaker 1: killers who had a very concrete plan to do just that,
Speaker 1: to execute each and every person individually. But Kendrick stood up,
Speaker 1: took on the shooter, gave his life where it saved
Speaker 1: his class, and some other students acted heroically as well.
Speaker 1: But John and Maria have just been very determined, through
Speaker 1: all of their unimaginable grief to help protect other students
Speaker 1: and faculty and staff. So they have pursued things. I've
Speaker 1: had the privilege of representing them to try to get
Speaker 1: the full truth about what happened at school that day
Speaker 1: to the public so the lessons could be learned and
Speaker 1: students would be better protected in the future. So I've
Speaker 1: had the privilege of getting to know John and Maria well,
Speaker 1: and their work continues. And what happened today in Highlands Ranch,
Speaker 1: you know, we all wished to God that it had
Speaker 1: never been necessary that Kendrick was still with us, but
Speaker 1: with Kendrick taken, what happened today is such a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing and a thing that will I think inspire just
Speaker 1: the best in people for a long time to come.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk with John about that. John,
Speaker 1: appreciate you being here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you. Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excuse me, I'm just fighting some little bug here.
Speaker 1: But can you maybe describe for us a little bit
Speaker 1: about this ceremony that occurred today as Kendrick Castile Way
Speaker 1: was dedicated out in Highland's Ranch. And this is, as
Speaker 1: I understand it, replacing Lucent Boulevard, which is a major
Speaker 1: major street in the Highlands Ranch. So so many, many,
Speaker 1: many motorists will be reminded of Kendrick and heroism and
Speaker 1: bravery and our very very best virtues. So please just
Speaker 1: take it and run and explain what happened today.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, thank you, Marie and I you know, it's
Speaker 7: end of the ceremony that you know, Governor Pola showed
Speaker 7: up for in many of our county commissioners, the sheriff
Speaker 7: from Douglas County, and there were so many other people
Speaker 7: and citizens and supporters and uh you know owners of
Speaker 7: business owners as well. The road renaming is for loosen
Speaker 7: To Boulevard that you know was for those who been
Speaker 7: it for a long time, was a technological company that
Speaker 7: no longer exists. So he had been working for some
Speaker 7: time unless renaming and everything was approved by the county
Speaker 7: and Governor of Paul Is assisted with you know, some
Speaker 7: work from the state and Sea Dot to make sure
Speaker 7: that we can get these signs put up and replaced
Speaker 7: and renamed Loucid to Kindercasty Away. And it will begin
Speaker 7: at County Line Road and Sea Force seventy roughly, and
Speaker 7: then it goes all the way down and stops at Broadway.
Speaker 7: So the whole section road that goes through Highlands Ranch
Speaker 7: and being renamed Magnificence pretty powerful. Yeah, that's really powerful.
Speaker 7: You know Marie and I as we were there and
Speaker 7: you know, I spoke a little bit about it and
Speaker 7: what it means to us. I mean that will create
Speaker 7: an avenue of conversation around the devastation that took Kendrick
Speaker 7: from Is on May seventh and twenty nineteen to Stem
Speaker 7: school shooting where he lost his life. I think it's
Speaker 7: an opportunity for families to discuss with maybe some of
Speaker 7: the children who weren't born at the time, who Kendrick
Speaker 7: was when they see that sign and his heroic actions,
Speaker 7: and you know, solutions to problems that plague our society
Speaker 7: with school shootings and what they might look like, and
Speaker 7: things about mental health with students that would go off
Speaker 7: the edge to commit these evil and horrific events. So
Speaker 7: those signs have a lot of meaning, a lot of power.
Speaker 7: And I just think that, you know, I mentioned it
Speaker 7: earlier today when I spoke that, you know, Kendrick was
Speaker 7: such a powerful light. I mean, and on May seven,
Speaker 7: we lost that and I hope that people can reignite
Speaker 7: that loosen Borders Children's Hospital. Then there's use in all hospitals,
Speaker 7: and I just think when I drive on that quarter
Speaker 7: with Maria and we look over that, we know there's
Speaker 7: a baby being brought into the world, and some of
Speaker 7: those hospitals and there's some people who are taking their
Speaker 7: last breath. There's some who are there for cancer treatment
Speaker 7: and illnesses, and hopefully a lot lots of them get better,
Speaker 7: and when they leave it, they see those signs. You know,
Speaker 7: Cooky realized that we have to embrace life. We have
Speaker 7: to live our lives with this a god, they love
Speaker 7: that we have for our savior, and you know, every
Speaker 7: breath that we have in our relationships. That's what those
Speaker 7: signs really mean to Marie.
Speaker 1: Wow, so powerful and such such a practical, real world impact, because,
Speaker 1: as you say, those who know of Kendrick and his
Speaker 1: legend and heroism are reminded of it. And and then
Speaker 1: you know, these kids and and people who may not know,
Speaker 1: they're going to ask who who Who's Kendrick Castio, And
Speaker 1: then they're going to hear the story and and and
Speaker 1: I think these positive role models like Kendrick, anybody who
Speaker 1: embodies the very highest virtues. Uh, it's just a great
Speaker 1: thing for society to just be reminded of and and
Speaker 1: and I think it can just be an enormous positive
Speaker 1: in terms of Yeah, who who do we value? Who
Speaker 1: do we honor in our society? Isn't some other politicians name,
Speaker 1: not Republican or Democrat, none of that bs. It's not
Speaker 1: some politicians name. It's one of us who gave that
Speaker 1: last full measure of devotion, the highest form of courage
Speaker 1: to save others. That's who we as a community honor.
Speaker 1: That's what we value.
Speaker 7: Exactly, and you know that that is powerful. It is
Speaker 7: something that we should embrace and we should start to create,
Speaker 7: you know, just a society that has value in life
Speaker 7: and will serve others and do well. I mean, that's
Speaker 7: really what it's about, you know. I hope that people
Speaker 7: research after they see Kendrick. They break out their phones
Speaker 7: like many people do these days, and they look a
Speaker 7: little further and they find out what it means to
Speaker 7: be devoured in your faith, to be a good person.
Speaker 7: And those are the values we need. Not that I
Speaker 7: have anything against sports athletes or other people that you know,
Speaker 7: we need some real role models, and we need young
Speaker 7: children to know that they can be good and they
Speaker 7: can do good things. And I think that that's the
Speaker 7: message absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And John, John Kistie kind enough to be with us.
Speaker 1: And obviously you know everything you need to know about
Speaker 1: John and Maria Castillo when you look at what Kendrick did.
Speaker 1: I mean, and these are people and I've had the
Speaker 1: privilege of getting to know them very well, of just
Speaker 1: the highest character and virtue and courage and John to
Speaker 1: that point, I think the other real practical, ongoing giving
Speaker 1: value of kender Castillo way now in Highland's ranch is
Speaker 1: reminding people of the reality of these school massacres, and
Speaker 1: those reminders I think will help in ways large and
Speaker 1: small to prevent the next one, because it's just human nature, right,
Speaker 1: And then obviously bureaucrats have every motive to do it,
Speaker 1: to just want to kind of sweep under the rug
Speaker 1: something as horrific as that that happens. But this is
Speaker 1: a reminder that no, this happened, and it's real, and
Speaker 1: we've got to be ever vigilant and ever better at
Speaker 1: stopping the next one.
Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, and the human response is the greatest response,
Speaker 7: always has been, always will be. I mean technology is great.
Speaker 7: I mean Kindrick Club technology, so did I We taught robotics.
Speaker 7: We we love what it can do. But in an
Speaker 7: event where there's a school shooting, there are no metal detectors,
Speaker 7: there are no physical things that are going to prevent
Speaker 7: the action. It takes people to have it in them
Speaker 7: to stand up and do the right thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: Kendrick knew that, and he did that. And we see people,
Speaker 7: you know, and like a lot of people in our society,
Speaker 7: you know, we know that they're going to continue to happen. Unfortunately,
Speaker 7: I mean there was one yesterday in California, you know,
Speaker 7: And they just keep coming to these school shootings and
Speaker 7: these acts of domestic terror. But what we do to
Speaker 7: combat it and creating avenues of transparency and having the
Speaker 7: conversation as difficult as it is about these events, the
Speaker 7: better it's going to be for all of our children
Speaker 7: and our educators and the buildings that they work and
Speaker 7: go to school.
Speaker 1: In amen to that. And Lord knows that you and
Speaker 1: Maria have done that work. I mean I've seen it firsthand,
Speaker 1: and you worked so hard to get the full truth
Speaker 1: out about everything that happened, and others are going to
Speaker 1: be saved by that. But thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: And this is something that will now be part of
Speaker 1: our community forever. Kendrick kesti away and all the good
Speaker 1: that will come from that. So thank you John, best
Speaker 1: to Maria and look forward to talking to you soon.
Speaker 7: Absolutely well, God bless you, Dan, and thank you for
Speaker 7: all the good work do you to serve people.
Speaker 1: Well, my friend, coming from you, that is so very kind.
Speaker 1: But I am in awe of you and your wife
Speaker 1: and look forward to talking soon.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You take care of that is John Castillo. Wow. So
Speaker 1: what a great thing got us celebrate the good things
Speaker 1: that communities do as well. In kender Kestio Way is
Speaker 1: one of those. Again we all wish and pray that
Speaker 1: didn't have to do that, that Kendrick was still with us.
Speaker 1: But this, you know, it goes back to making good
Speaker 1: come from evil, and John and Murray are making sure
Speaker 1: that good comes from the evil that happened at that school.
Speaker 1: Kendrick made sure that that good fought back against evil
Speaker 1: as evil was unfolding and saved the others in that
Speaker 1: classroom and others will be safer for what John and
Speaker 1: Murray are doing. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast, the.
Speaker 1: Ques is it a sentence is talking about Daniel Penny. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Jerry's still deliberating in that case. As you know, they
Speaker 1: announced they were deadlocked on the manslaughter charge, the most
Speaker 1: serious charge for which you could have done over ten years,
Speaker 1: and then the DA quickly dismissed that charge. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that this DA was being mcnanimous. No, that they want
Speaker 1: the jury to now convict on the lesser charge, the
Speaker 1: criminally negligent homicide charge. So the jury will go back
Speaker 1: to work on that on Monday. Hopefully Penny will be acquitted.
Speaker 1: A conviction I think just undermines confidence in the justice
Speaker 1: system and rewards and encourages these politically motivated prosecutorial decisions.
Speaker 1: Five for zero five A two five to five texts
Speaker 1: DN five seven seven three nine. Hey, the latest on
Speaker 1: the CEO killer in New York. I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: story now police have found the backpack. As you know,
Speaker 1: the killer had ridden into Central Park and backpack was
Speaker 1: deposited near the famous carousel there. Police found it over there,
Speaker 1: But now they believe that the killer has left New York.
Speaker 1: I would bet you can't prove it, but I would
Speaker 1: bet you a lot that they know who this killer is,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a decent chance that they're watching him.
Speaker 1: I think what they're trying to figure out is did
Speaker 1: he act alone? Or is this part of a conspiracy?
Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't be at all shocked if well, first,
Speaker 1: I would be stunned beyond probably human survival if they
Speaker 1: did not already know who he was. Wouldn't you agree
Speaker 1: Ryan that there is zero chance that they lack the
Speaker 1: identity of the individual in those photos They.
Speaker 4: Seem to have a lot of information.
Speaker 2: The backpack you mentioned being found and an also fingerprint.
Speaker 2: Well where this person allegedly transported themselves from was at Georgia.
Speaker 4: No, it came to New York City.
Speaker 1: They know who it is. I think the only question
Speaker 1: is are they now following him? Are they following him
Speaker 1: in order to try to determine whether he's working with
Speaker 1: a group, et cetera. But they've got to know who
Speaker 1: he is by now. Hey five five for zero five
Speaker 1: eight two five five the number. Ellen Dershowitz has a
Speaker 1: theory on this.
Speaker 8: I have a theory about why this CEO was killed. Remember,
Speaker 8: there's information that there was an investigation about insider trading,
Speaker 8: and if he was being investigated, there were people out
Speaker 8: there who would be afraid he would flip and turn
Speaker 8: against them. And so I think they have to investigate
Speaker 8: the possibility that somebody who he might have testified against
Speaker 8: had him killed to prevent him from being from testifying.
Speaker 1: Also, whoever killed him knew where he.
Speaker 9: Was going, knew he was going at six forty in
Speaker 9: the morning, knew it was well before the events began.
Speaker 9: So I think the investigation has to look inward to
Speaker 9: the company to see who was under investigation and who
Speaker 9: this guy might have flipped against.
Speaker 1: Well, obviously Ellen's been listening to the show, right But yeah,
Speaker 1: in my mind at this point, guess work, it's either
Speaker 1: that scenario or it is what it appears to be.
Speaker 1: And clearly you know that the shooter meant to tell
Speaker 1: everybody that motive was anger for a denied claim. But
Speaker 1: of course, as we said at the time that story broke,
Speaker 1: that could be a misdirection play. So we'll know pretty
Speaker 1: soon because they've got to know who that person is
Speaker 1: right now, assuming that person is still alive, and if
Speaker 1: the person is not still alive, then you have to
Speaker 1: wonder whether they were used and then removed. Dan rumors onex,
Speaker 1: the CEO has said, oh no, no, I can't.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I am not voicing that I don't censor on the show,
Speaker 1: but when somebody links something like that to another living individual,
Speaker 1: I would want some evidence and Texter, you're welcome to
Speaker 1: call the show if you've got some more to back
Speaker 1: up your theory. There. Dan, I'm a former rain grew
Speaker 1: up in New York City, different world than Instead of
Speaker 1: a trial, Daniel Penny should have gotten a blanking metal
Speaker 1: I agree with that one thousand percent color earlier had
Speaker 1: mentioned the new Ellen Bird movie out. Thank you to
Speaker 1: that caller. We've contacted Peter Boyles and peterro com in.
Speaker 1: I'm in trial next week and then a lot of great,
Speaker 1: great folks going to be in for me next week.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm a little concerned about how much enthusiasm
Speaker 1: there is for those folks on our text line right now,
Speaker 1: such as Dan, I can't wait for Brockler on Monday.
Speaker 1: Four exclamation points. Yeah, appreciate that. Thank you. I'm sure
Speaker 1: George will be happy to hear that. And then at
Speaker 1: Deborah Flora and Heidie Ganall and Christy Burton Brown so
Speaker 1: an all star casts next week while I am off
Speaker 1: in a jury trial. But then Pete will come in
Speaker 1: the week after that, and we'll now that this Allan
Speaker 1: Bird movie's coming out. We'll do a deep dive on
Speaker 1: all that because Pete and Alan very very close, and
Speaker 1: Pete obviously knows in great depth everything surrounding that horrific
Speaker 1: murderer and the subsequent trial, etc. Dan blank, Snow, where
Speaker 1: did that come from?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, I was just talking about, Hey, we
Speaker 1: need a good snow as we get close to Christmas,
Speaker 1: so it feels more like Christmas, but not everybody agreeing
Speaker 1: on that. My friend, so much to talk about. I
Speaker 1: really want to dive into this heg Seth thing with you.
Speaker 1: I may be the only person in America who cares
Speaker 1: about this. But the latest is Trump coming out late
Speaker 1: today and saying he stands behind the heg Seth nomination
Speaker 1: but acknowledging there's no guarantee it's going to go through.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's fighting. I hope he continues to fight.
Speaker 1: Heg Seth wouldn't have been my choice, but Trump's entitle
Speaker 1: to his choices. Plus, we can't allow the left to
Speaker 1: succeed with this, you know. Thank god Trump stood up
Speaker 1: for Kavanaugh, and I wasn't sure about Kavanaugh. Then he
Speaker 1: turned out to be a great justice, but I wanted
Speaker 1: him confirmed so that, you know, we still have presumed
Speaker 1: innocent in this country, and so the left didn't get
Speaker 1: away with with this kind of mob mentality and politics
Speaker 1: of personal destruction. So I hope he stands behind heg Seth.
Speaker 1: When we come back, more on the CEO killer