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Speaker 1: Two NHL games for Wednesday, March eleventh, and we are

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here on Puck Time to talk about both of them

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right here on wager Talk TV.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew and I've got Brian with.

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Speaker 1: Me today, just the two of us to break things down,

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go over some games, take any questions. We're gonna just

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take a little step back talk conceptually bet on bet

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against teams, teams we're looking at to hopefully have a

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good last fifteen to twenty games, teams we're looking to

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go against towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: And we'll just talk sports a little bit as well.

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Speaker 1: And anything you guys in the chat want to discuss

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as well for today.

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Speaker 2: But Brian, how are you man? Good to see as always,

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It's great to be here.

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Speaker 3: And Carmines never looked better.

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Speaker 2: His hair is looking great today, actually a.

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Speaker 3: Good hair day the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we will have Carmine back tomorrow of course on

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the show. But if there's a day to miss, today

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is not really too bad of a day to miss,

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of course. Washington Capital is Philadelphia Flyers, Montreal Canadians, Ottawa Senators.

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The two games that we will break down here for today.

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And you know, Brian, I got to tip my cap

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to the NHL because they've been doing a pretty good

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job since the Olympic breaks returned with kind of spreading out.

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Speaker 2: The schedule a bit.

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Speaker 1: This is the first day, and it typically happens on

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a Monday, a Wednesday, maybe a Friday, where you have

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to deal with the two games slate. It happens. But

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one thing I always say to people is, and especially

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when the NFL is going on is and we can

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all be guilty of this, is sometimes you forget about

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the NHL on Sunday football, right or certain days where

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there's only a couple of games. But this is kind

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of a sneaky day where you can actually make some

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money in the NHL. Like, even though there's only two games,

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you've got two games to break down, two games to

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look at here. So Brian, we've got some movement a

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little bit in the Ottawa and Montreal game. Taking a

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look at this Ottawa team. It's their first game back

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at home after their West Coast road trip. The Canadians

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played their first game back after their West Coast road trip.

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It's kind of funny. One of my good friends, he's

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an Ottawa Senators fan, and we always talk about our

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teams together, and his team was in the West coast

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of America and my team, or sorry, my team was

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on the West coast of America. His team was on

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the West coast of Canada. So both team's kind of

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in a similar situation travel wise, just in different parts

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kind of of of the area.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: So back to back scenario here for the Montreal Canadians.

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But as you know, it brings a smile to my face.

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The Toronto may beliefs they weren't too much of a

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competition despite the low score line.

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Speaker 2: It was a pretty dominant win last night for the Habs.

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So how do you read this game Ottawa and Montreal tonight?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've started off. I'm looking at the number and

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I thought it was inflated back and I looked on

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one of the sites I use and It'scott Montaebau against

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with Elmark today in Montebeaux. Is one of those guys

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that a young guy, but it is a drop off

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at a goalie. But I will let you talk about

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what you read once I finish here, and we might

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be able to find some surprising value here. But I

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have these two teams right on the season virtually equal

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Montreal's one two of the three. I believe both of

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them won in overtime and they and they lost their

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game to Ottawa. I was playing really well right now,

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Montreal decent, so I could see Ottawa being a slight

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favorite here. But we're looking at numbers here. It opened

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about one fifty nine catchback one thirty one. I'm seeing

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right now you can catch upwards of one seventy right

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now with the Montreal Canadians. Now, granted they played yesterday,

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but as you mentioned, they played Toronto, and Toronto I

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know it's a big rivalry for them, so maybe that's

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what they're thinking. But Toronto's not playing well right now.

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in that game. So normally I give anywhere from twenty

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five to thirty cents on the team playing in the

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back to back I may lessen that in this one,

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which would probably put me in Ottawa, maybe in the

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one one forty range, and you've got to lay some

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places in the one nineties here with Ottawa. That line

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is too high. I like Montreal in this game, and

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there may be a reason, even a better reason to

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play Montreal based on what you've just talked to me

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about before we went on today, and if that does happen,

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this is a gift number right now for the Canadians.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian, as you mentioned that number skyrocketing upwards, we

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had a graphic for you guys, but as the morning

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moved forward to the number jumping up and Brian, we

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don't like to say it's just oneicular reason.

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Speaker 2: Is it the back to back? Is it the defense? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: You know, Ottawa is playing some good hockey right now.

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Montreal Canadians fan, I'll tell you every media member and

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every fan is just it's almost packing the bags for

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Samuel Montambau and ready to show him the door. I

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have tried to defend this guy on social media. I

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have said the most I possibly could. But at the

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end of the day, Brian, this guy continues to give

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up goals. And the problem with Montembeau I found was

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that he was giving up goals at the worst possible times.

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you know, when the other team has their goalie polled,

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and it would be like from really far away shots

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like just not too good. So anyway, before we hopped

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on the show today, I saw all the media members

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I follow for the Montreal Canadians, they tweeted out that

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Jacob Fowler has been called up from the Laval Rocket

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to the Montreal Canadians. Now, earlier in the season, I

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believe it was before Christmas time or around around Christmas time,

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they were doing a three goalie rotation and eventually people said, hey, look,

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it's not healthy to do a three goalie rotation because

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what happens Brian, of course, is that you've got one

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goalie that hasn't played in two weeks. And you know

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Dobish who won last night for the Montreal Canadians. He's

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got a phenomenal record, but because of that three goalie

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system that they have, he actually hasn't even played nearly

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as many games as he deserves to have played. So

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it's very interesting because I'll tell you, I don't think

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that people care as much about goalies these days as

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they used to. But I can tell you that I

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think general population, they don't like Montebeau. So if they're

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seeing Montebau as the projected guy and you know, looking

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at you know Jacob Fowler's numbers when he was up

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with the Montreal Canadians, they were pretty good, Like I

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think that they were serviceable.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is for.

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Speaker 1: Him is that they didn't give him easy games. They

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didn't give him like the easiest games to deal with.

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played for him, two point six to two goals against average,

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he had one shutout, twenty six goals against. Save percentage

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was point nine to zero two this year for the

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Laval Rocket point nine to one six. So it's it's interesting, Brian,

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because they're going through a span right now where they

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have four games in six nights, including yesterday, of course,

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obviously I've watched Fowler, I've heard of how great he is.

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But would it shock you if all of this news

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breaks this morning for them not to play him, you

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know what I mean? Like it to me, it's just

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one of those things that would be very weird and

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it would almost be a distraction. Like sports people always

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talk about distractions. It would be a distraction if they

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did all of this to not play him, right.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I'm looking at these numbers, and

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it's acting as if the public is looking at this

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game and they consider Montebeau, Montebeau to be the regular goalie,

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regular starter, and they're bringing up a guy from the miners.

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And you see this a lot in baseball. Everybody the

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first thing you look at, I go, well, the guys

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are the miners for a reason. He's not as good.

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I think if if he comes to play, this is

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this line is going to go down. We're catching upwards

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at one seventy in some of these markets right now

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on Montreal, and if Montebaul players, you're stuck with the

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one seventy. But still I don't think that's a bad

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line at all. And if he doesn't play, this line

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is going to go down, and you're going you're gonna

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get a bargain. So it's not often I look to

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blindly play a game, but even with the goalie that

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the guest schedule right now, even if he plays, I

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think the line's too high. So it's Montreal or nothing

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for me. And I think this it wouldn't be a

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bad idea just to have a little piece of Montreal

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in case they do bring in the other goalie. Because

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it's going to be the line won't be this high

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if he is announced as a goalie tonight.

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Speaker 1: And I know I'm probably getting people just absolutely tired,

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Brian of hearing me talk about how competitive the division

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has been overall. But I saw this tweet, and whenever

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I see a good tweet, I always want to pop

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it up and bring it up on the screen.

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Speaker 2: Here, let's see if I can grab it. Here we go.

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So here's this one, Brian. For US.

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Speaker 1: Ottawa, Montreal, Buffalo, and Columbus have all just won regulation

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loss in their last ten games.

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Speaker 2: Boston has two.

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Speaker 1: This guy says the East is absolutely ridiculous. So I mean,

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if you look at this, what's crazy is that if

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we take a look right now at the Ottawa Senators

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and some of the scores they've played in recently, you know,

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two nothing win, seven to four win, four to one win,

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tough loss against Edmonton, five to two win against Toronto.

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Like this team is playing well, they're suppressing shots, their

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offensive chances are good. It's very tough when it comes

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to the goalie situation and kind of looking over things.

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that does worry me is that I prefer to play

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the harder team on the front half of the back

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to back, because I feel like you can get a

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false sense of confidence, Like the Montreal Canadians in the

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first period yesterday they look like the Harlem Globetrotters against

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the Washington Generals, like they looked like a team that

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I have never seen in my whole entire life against

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the Toronto maple LEAs. I would have been five years

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old the last time Montreal was that much better than

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Toronto ban So I think sometimes it can be a

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little bit tough for a team, which is why I

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saw a couple of people talking about the first period

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over and Timothy in here Copek saying over here, I

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wouldn't talk anybody off that first period over bet because

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as much as I'm talking up Fowler the goals, that situation.

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side on Montreal, but my reason for this is that

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I do think they could be caught off guard by Hey, look,

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this is this is not Toronto, and I can't believe

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we're saying this, but Toronto is one of the worst

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teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: And not only one of the worst I think they

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are the worst right now. If you're looking at playing

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and you've talked about teams in our last ten games,

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or Tampa Bay with four, Detroit with four, and Florida

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with four. So even even the teams that aren't doing

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well in the in this division are really good teams.

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Uh yeah, this is this is something for myself and

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I compare this too similar to the division that my

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team plays in, and that's the Pacific where all the

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teams other than Anaheim, which is one eight out of ten,

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all those teams have had a losing record of last

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ten and so I'm looking to fade those. So yeah,

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everything in everything in the Eastern Conference is so tight.

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Montreal is plus fifteen in gold differential, ottawas plus sixteen.

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Ottawa at home, it's got a losing record. They're fourteen

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to fifteen, where Montreal is seventeen and fifteen on the road.

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really good hockey, but yeah, they've won Toronto or excuse me,

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seven or six out of last ten, So I stinct

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the lines too high here from Montreal, and I'd love

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to see them make that goalie change. We get a

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better number later on and we can brag about the

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one seventy or one sixty five we're getting right now.

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Speaker 1: Canadians, Hey, maybe there is a perk of us doing

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puck time at eleven am Eastern, because we haven't been

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able to always find the perks to the early show.

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But I guess we're getting in early with the market

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because I don't know about you, Brian, but it feels

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like sometimes three pm four pm Eastern is the time

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that we see the second move, almost like people are

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getting off work or whatever, or the announcements are starting

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to be made. Because the problem is, I know, for

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the Eastern Conference teams right now, pretty much while we're

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doing puck time every day, I started getting notifications about

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these press conferences starting for each team after their morning skates.

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Then you start to find out information. So with our luck,

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we'll fin we'll press the red button and finished recording here,

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and then we'll find out immediately who the goalie is

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for tonight. Somebody asked me yesterday. I believe it was

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either Twitter or it might have actually been in the

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live chat. They asked me if I bet power play

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point props, and I don't have a graphic for you

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guys for today, going to mention a few that I

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like today on the show, and I said my answer

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was I mostly bet them in the playoffs. And I

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know that might sound funny because people have this image

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Brian that there aren't that many penalties in the playoffs,

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and it's been proven to be false. The only thing

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that I think people could argue is there probably should

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be more in the playoffs because of all the stuff

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that happens. But there's actually about the same amount of

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penalties in the playoffs as you see in the regular season.

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They just get away with a lot more stuff. But

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it's pretty interesting. So you look at Nixuzuki to get

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one point tonight for the Montreal Canadians, he's minus two eighteen.

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I don't want to deal with that number. For him

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to get a power play point on the power play

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is plus one seventy. The Montreal Canadians currently hold the

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sixth best rated power play on the year, and wait

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for it, the Ottawa Senators have the thirtieth ranked penalty kill,

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So you're getting plus one seventy six best against thirtieth ranked.

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It kind of adds up to me, and you know

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you're turning a minus two twenty into a plus one seventy.

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to get at least two or three power plays. You

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probably need a couple of chances to get there, but

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I will happily take that. So we'll try and get

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it in. Brian, And I telling you, guys, lock in

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the number while you can. Withink, the number will bounce

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back down, so grab the dog if you can. I'll

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be looking at some player props and I do lean

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towards that first period over no matter who's in goal,

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I think we could see some action early on in

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this game. All right, Brian, what a day yesterday in

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the sports world overall the World Baseball Classic Team USA,

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Oh my goodness, Canada with the win there, we've got

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Bam out of Bayou, breaking Kobe Bryant's scoring record.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: So it's Wilt, Bam and Kobe in one sentence, but

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a lot of free throws. You had some comments on

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what you saw yesterday in the world of sports. What

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a day it really was?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was. It was an exciting day. We

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get the on the h being here in Vegas to

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deal with trading Max Crosby, and all of a sudden,

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Baltimore decides to back out of it. That was the

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big headline, and all of a sudden, Wait a minute,

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the BAM's got thirty one points in the first period.

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Wait a minute, bam gets eighty three points in the game.

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First thing I looked at was forty five pre throws attempted.

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When was the last time somebody in the NBA got

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forty five pre throws attempted. Everybody's talking about that, And yes,

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they kept him in there and he pad to the stats,

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but hey, you know, everybody loves Kobe. It was Kobe's

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last game. You'd not telling me that people were taking

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weren't taking it easy on Kobe in that game? Come

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on now? Uh so, yeah, a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about the World Based Classic and

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the way the Japanese fans treated this picture for the opposition.

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The entire stadium was filled with Japanese fans, and I

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got to really go out. I just love the whole

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concept of Japan and what they do. They gave him

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a standing ovation after four and two thirds shutout innings,

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a game in which he was shutting out their own

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home team. He was an electrician, full time electrician, pitching

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in that game. They gave him a standing room only.

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Can you imagine. I know Canada is a little bit

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different than the United States. Can you imagine a United

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States game being played here? Doing that to a foreigner

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doesn't happen in the United States, which is one of

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the reasons why most people around the world hate people

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who were Americans. So hats off to Japan, Hats off

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to those fans. I wish the United States would learn

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a little bit from that and did something to put

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a smile on my face. And the way they treated him,

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it's great for the sport. It's great for baseball, it's

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great for the World Baseball Classic. Enjoyed it, and yesterday

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it was a great day of sports. And I know

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we're here to talk hockey, but it was a lot

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of fun yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You have to love that sportsmanship. It's just so great

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to see. As you mentioned, Brian, great stuff by you.

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It brings a smile to your face. And that's what

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those events are all about, like the Olympics or the

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World Baseball Classic. I had friends talking to mex to me,

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I think an electrician just pitched four shutout innings, like

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they're talking about like all this different stuff going on. Yeah,

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it's so great to see. And because not everybody is

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the Aaron Judge, not everybody is Paul's schemes, right, everybody

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might not have this lavish life to go back to

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as an absolute superstar. But for these few weeks, these

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guys are all the same. You know, you put on

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your uniform, you're representing your country. It's great to see.

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And yeah, I'll tell you though, Brian, that whole Bam

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out of Bayou thing. I would be lying to you

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if I told you I watched the whole game, of course,

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but I watched probably the final four minutes. It was

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pure comedy, Like did you watch much of it?

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Speaker 2: Like? No? I did not, like oh man like it was.

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Speaker 1: So they were both in bonus, right, So Miami was

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fouling Washington so that they would shoot free throws and

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then get the ball back. So it was a lot

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of like unnatural stuff that would just never happen, but

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it was like you had to cheer for it at

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the same time. And then when Bam finally got the

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ball back, he was doing these weird spin moves and

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he threw the ball up and you could see the

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referee was like thinking about it, and he's.

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Speaker 2: Like, I got a call it.

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Speaker 1: I got to call it until he made the call

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and then uh. And even though he had so many

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free throws, he made practically all of them. Like you

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got to give him the credit for the ice in

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his veins, that's for sure. So great night, great night overall.

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And also I was wrong about my over three and

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a half with Colorado. We'd be remissed him not mention

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the Nathan McKinnon goaltender interference that went on last night.

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Maybe my East Coast bias getting in the way because

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I am a fan of McKinnon. But he's going towards

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Ingram and then Darnell Nurse sort of collides with.

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Speaker 2: Him and pushes him more into Ingram.

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Speaker 1: But either way, McKinnon hard hit into a goalie, which

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is never a good thing. They review it as if

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it's going to be either a five minute major penalty

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or a two minute minor for goalie interference. He gets

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the five minute major. At that point, I'm like, oh man,

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Colorado's good, but my team total might be a loser

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now without McKinnon for the next half of the game.

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Speaker 2: And we saw that Evonton one four to three.

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Speaker 1: But look, Brian, I'm the first one to tell you

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I can appreciate a two to one hockey game. I

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gott appreciate a low scoring game. But when ever teams

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like that are playing and I got to watch it

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on my TV, I always have so much fun because

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they are just so fast paced the way they play. Look,

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we like low scoring games and defense, but we'd be

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lying if we didn't say we'd love goals as well.

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Speaker 2: Who doesn't love sharing for goals? Right? So yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't care if it's low scoring or highest score. I

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just won a good game yesterday. My free play was

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on Dallas in the first period no scoring in the

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first period. Also said if you wanted to play Vegas,

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you're probably off better playing them in the third period,

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and of course no scoring in the third period. It

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wasn't much use for me to be on the show.

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Yesterday's We didn't get any verdicts, but We did win

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our four star plays or four percent play for five dollars,

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so that was nice. But we've got another hockey game

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to talk about today, and both these games are very

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important when it comes to playoff positioning. We've got Washington

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against Philadelphia, and this is another one that I'm looking

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forward to. Some of the quotes coming out of Washington

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was they are really focused on this game. They said,

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I don't care about yes, the last game we played,

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I don't care about when we've got to play a

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really good team coming up in Buffalo. This is a

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game they need to have now. If you take a

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look at the season records, Washington's apploy twelve goals on

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the season while Philadelphia's down seventeen. But basically Washington is

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only up two points in the playoff position over Philadelphia,

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and Philadelphia's got two more games to play, so these

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teams are right there with each other. Although nothing has

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been decided right now, Lindren's probable for the visitor and

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Vadar is probable Philadelphia. I think the backup goalie here,

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and we're just talking about the differences between the backups

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and the starters. I think the backup goalie and Washington

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is one of the bigger ones in the NHL. The

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former Gold Knight has been tremendous in goal for Washington.

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Now they've got lingering going here. I think that's a

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little bit of a negative. We were seeing a current

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line basically right now, Washington's a slight favorite in the

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one twenty range, something to that effect, which puts me

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slightly on Philadelphia in this game. I prefer both dogs

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on today's card. Of course, I like the Montreal game

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a little bit better than this one. But two teams

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right now, they really need a victory, and we'll see

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how this one goes. But two games that should be

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very physical and very tight. And even though it's just

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two games today, you're very good hockey games.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point, Brian. Two games, but two games

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worth watching, that's for sure. The other one, we did

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see some movement for this one. For the most part,

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we've seen the number stick Washington minus one twenty two.

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The number is relatively the same. Looking at the total,

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we have some signs of sixes though, so pick and

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choose your spots. Six and a half barely available now,

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so make sure you shop around to the best of

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your availability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we're looking at opening number purposes, then

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you think that, Okay, I think that Philadelphia by the

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opening number, the books were respecting them. This opened up

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practically a pick and then we've seen just money trickle

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in on Washington.

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Speaker 2: So when I look at this one, I agree with you, Brian.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like, hey, you know, do we follow

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the steam or do we look at what the books

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open things up at. Sometimes you want to look at

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one side, sometimes you want to look at the other.

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And in this scenario, this is one of those ones

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where I completely agree with you that sometimes there's very

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little difference from one goalie to the next.

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Speaker 2: For the Washington Capitals, there's a drop off.

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Speaker 1: There is a drop off Logan Thompson and I'll tell

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you that the last game the Capitol's played, I was disappointed.

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I wasn't on them more, but because I said, this

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is going to be a team post Olympic break that

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I want to be on. But yeah, the numbers just

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aren't good overall. When it comes to Charlie Lindgren, and

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the problem with him is that he gives up a

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lot of rebounds And I'm just taking a look at it,

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like when you look at some of his numbers here,

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whereas he eight eighty one save percentage, one shutout, but

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the last handful of games, like he's got an expected

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goals against the close to four. So that's not good

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at all. Philadelphia, though, I worry about their offensive ability.

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That's the only thing, Brian. Their offensive output is like

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it makes you want to fall asleep watching this team play.

477
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They've got three guys that can score for them.

478
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Speaker 3: You're right, And the power play is the real concern

479
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here for Philadelphia. On the power play, they just are

480
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not very good in that regard. Watch is not having

481
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the count of year that they've had in the past

482
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on the power play. But they still have a Vetchkin

483
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and we've obviously you can't discount him. He can score

484
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on anybody. That's that's my main concern here. If it's

485
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on a five on five game, I think Philadelphia's got

486
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the advantage. But on the on the power play, obviously

487
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Washington has got that advantage here, and both these teams

488
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,160
really need to get the victories. I mean, right now,

489
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Washington's got seventy one points, Philadelphia sixty nine. The Bruins

490
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,400
are currently eighth in the East at seventy eight, so

491
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,759
there's not much more time for them to take a loss.

492
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So the game's going to be very tight, very physical

493
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,039
in this game, and if it does get to be

494
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a lot of power plays, that's got to be an

495
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advantage for Washington.

496
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Speaker 1: I would think, Yeah, I just think that, you know,

497
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looking at this team, you know, some people might argue, Brian.

498
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,160
The other end of the spectrum of what we're saying

499
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,240
here is that, hey, look, maybe there's value on Washington

500
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,960
because it's not as high of a price without Logan

501
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,200
Thompson between the pipes. But sometimes it really is as

502
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,599
simple as going against like I remember, look, you're talking

503
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,960
to a Montreal Canadians fan here. Carry Price used to

504
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play seventy games a year when Carry Price wasn't in

505
00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,920
the net. It was an easy bet against the Montreal Canadians,

506
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,480
Like it was. It was a don't overthink it moment

507
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,680
when it came to that, And I think people have

508
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,480
to realize how good Logan Thompson really is. The only

509
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,000
issue is that you've got a kind of a week

510
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,680
your goalie match up here for Washington for Philly. But

511
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I just I don't know if I can get to

512
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the window because of their offensive ability.

513
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Speaker 2: You know, it's just been so anemic.

514
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: A lot of the numbers that I'm looking at, just

515
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:17,480
scanning through some of the team stats here, you know,

516
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:21,599
last five games, expected goals four per game two point

517
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,920
one six, power play percentage fifteen point four.

518
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Speaker 2: Like, it's just it's so tough.

519
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: Like I part of me almost says that if you

520
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,240
if you could have gotten a six and a half

521
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or even a six, the under could be the play.

522
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But then again, we're talking about Charlie Lingren. So we'll

523
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see what happens here. Maybe what I'll do is I'll

524
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go ahead and I'll take Philadelphia first period.

525
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: You give a really sharp first period.

526
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll check out what lin Gren's first period numbers

527
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,599
are be using some great websites I'll make sure to

528
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:55,799
share with you, Brian, And some of these websites will

529
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:59,960
actually let you know how goalies do for every period,

530
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,880
which is interesting. So let's see first period for Charlie Lindgren.

531
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Expected goals against point eight eight point eight eight.

532
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,079
Speaker 2: Last three games for him. Wow. First wow.

533
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Brian, this is this is kind of crazy here,

534
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,279
last three games for him, in the first period, he's

535
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:29,359
had an expected goals against of two point one. That

536
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,880
is that is incredible just in the first period alone.

537
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:36,759
So Philadelphia first period money line. You gave us the

538
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:40,960
first period yesterday some live research on the show. I

539
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,680
might be taking first period money line for the Philadelphia

540
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Flyers here.

541
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Speaker 3: I will say, if you're looking at the schedule, and

542
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:49,799
we've been talking about this for a couple of weeks

543
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:53,000
now up until the end of the season, here, because

544
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:57,319
of the Olympic break, they have to really jam these

545
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,960
games one after another. Here was you is only playing

546
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,799
their third game in the last eight days. That is

547
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,079
something you rarely see right now. Philadelphia, on the other hand,

548
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:12,319
are playing their fourth game in seven days, and both

549
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:17,240
of them have to play tomorrow. Philadelphia it goes to

550
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:22,640
Minnesota and Washington has to go to Buffalo. So those

551
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,480
are probably losses for both of these teams, which means

552
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,240
this game is much more important. Washington having that extra

553
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,400
rest is definitely an edge here. So even though I

554
00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:34,799
lean with Philadelphia, I'm probably not going to get to

555
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:38,319
this one because of the Washington rest advantage. But I

556
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,400
still love Montreal in that game. At that price, I

557
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,559
think it's not going to be a play for my clients,

558
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,839
at least at this point. If we get some more

559
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,400
information about who the goalie is later, maybe it will be.

560
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,799
But right now, that's the closest thing I've got to

561
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:55,279
a play right now is Montreal. Although it's not going

562
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:57,599
to be play for my clients.

563
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,039
Speaker 2: We'll see if it's a day for the dogs.

564
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of dogs, Carmine Bianco has been an absolute dog lately.

565
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: Thirteen and one.

566
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: How's that for a segue? Thirteen and one for Carmin

567
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,920
and Bianco. Guys, I've been preaching it if you're interested

568
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,160
in buying picks at wagertalk dot com, we encourage people

569
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,039
to not just buy one, play, not just get one

570
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,599
and done. If you have been picking your spots with KRM,

571
00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:23,559
a little bit of here, a little bit there, you've

572
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,759
missed out. You know, out of fourteen selections in the NHL,

573
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,200
he's cash thirteen of his last fourteen, so he's on

574
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,960
an absolute role. Brian's been doing extremely well. And you

575
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,640
know the thing is, we all do several sports, not

576
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,480
just one sport. You know, Carmine's doing soccer as well.

577
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,680
He does phenomenal with NFL, you know, during football season,

578
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,359
So make sure you guys check him out wagertalk dot com.

579
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,720
I'm not sure if karm has a play up for today.

580
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:53,839
I cannot speak to that, but thirteen and one run.

581
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,640
I did not know what the play was. I think

582
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,200
he had something in the Blues and Islanders game yesterday,

583
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,839
so he cashed again, So he's on a roll. I

584
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,559
wish he was here with us today. We'll have him

585
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:08,359
back tomorrow and he'll show up when there's like a

586
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,160
thirteen game slate. He said, Uh, I'll give Andrew and

587
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,799
Brian the two games slate. I don't have to worry

588
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:18,319
about the small one, but thirteen and one. Really great

589
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,119
stuff there from Carmine and comment from Victor. I don't

590
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,119
usually address comments like this and kind of a backhand

591
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:27,960
compliment pretty much saying couldn't find a more likable guy

592
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,599
than Andrew, but he just throws out these stats. The

593
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,599
problem is, and I'll tell you what, Victor, to be

594
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,839
honest with you, the crappy part is is that there

595
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,319
are half of you guys like hockey and half of

596
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,960
you guys like betting, and some of you guys like both.

597
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,680
I host a show once or twice a week on

598
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400
the Hockeynews dot com you can check it out. I

599
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,480
talk hockey NonStop on that show. We don't talk sports betting.

600
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:59,519
It's a hockey podcast. And unfortunately, not everybody that watches

601
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:04,160
Wager Talk programming are actually sports fans. Believe it or not,

602
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,200
people are sports betters, and I hope that people can

603
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,240
be both. Brian and I had a whole segment for

604
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,559
a few minutes talking about what a sports day it

605
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:18,079
was Tuesday night in the world. But I'd love to

606
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:21,079
be able to break down hockey games specifically, but I

607
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,799
prefer to kind of look at some stats and websites

608
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,200
that I like to use on top of the handicap stuff,

609
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,880
and that helps me. So Brian, we don't like to

610
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,640
address too much stuff. And it was kind of a

611
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,640
backhand compliment. I guess it's like, can't find a nicer guy,

612
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,559
but he doesn't know what he's talking about.

613
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't really know that.

614
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: I think you read that wrong. No, you're just talking

615
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,200
about your stats. No, that's that's not the case at all.

616
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,480
But we do appreciate I appreciate people watching the show

617
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:49,559
regardless of what they're doing. We've had a lot of

618
00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,599
people tell us that we do too much talking before

619
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,519
we get to the first game. And Andrew learned from that

620
00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:58,920
and he went right into the hockey today. So yeah,

621
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,559
we also you know, I wasn't part of this, but

622
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,640
originally we were planning on talking about and there's going

623
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,279
to be some graphics up there about teams to play

624
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,720
on or against for the rest of the season. I'm

625
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,400
not as prepared to that for that as Carmine would

626
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,279
have been, but I'm willing to give my own opinions

627
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:19,279
on that. I do want to point out that just

628
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,160
because and we're going to see this a lot in

629
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,359
college basketball today with the tournaments. I've already read the

630
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,640
teams that are on the bubble and they must win

631
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,720
this game. If you're on the bubble, everybody knows you're

632
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,039
on the bubble. They expect you to try to play harder.

633
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,720
I don't know, but you're not going to get rich

634
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,359
betting on teams that need to win. And so we've

635
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,400
got a lot of that going on right now in hockey.

636
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,160
I talked about that earlier with the Florida Panthers having

637
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160
a lot of injuries earlier this season, and then they

638
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,559
go to the Olympics and they've got more Olympic players

639
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,640
than anybody else. And they've come out of the Olympic

640
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,240
break and yeah, they won two games in a row,

641
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,160
but they haven't been very impressive. They're still down eighteen

642
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,480
goals on the season. I consider it Florida. People going

643
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:08,519
to see the name Florida, and they've been to the

644
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:12,719
championship a lot lately. They're a public team. I think

645
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,280
we're going to continue to find value on going against

646
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,320
the Florida Panthers right now. I wouldn't use president money

647
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,920
to bet the Toronto Maple Leafs right now. To me,

648
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:27,760
they're a complete team that's dead. I've talked about the

649
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,679
Vegas Golden Knights right now. Vegas Golden Knights will just

650
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,199
continue to fall and fall. They're now at a plus

651
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,400
three differential goal on the season and they've got a

652
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,639
losing record at home fourteen to seventeen, losing record on

653
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,519
the road fifteen and nineteen. They're terrible in overtime, terrible

654
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:48,159
in shootouts. No confidence at all on Vegas. We saw

655
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,480
that again yesterday. They take a one nothing leading the

656
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,119
second period and give up two quick goals and all

657
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,599
Dallas did was just dump it down to the other

658
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,679
end and Vegas could not get anything going offense at

659
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,480
the end of the first period. Yesterday they throw the

660
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,360
six shots on goal, three for Dallas, three for Vegas.

661
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,920
This Vegas offense right now is really struggling, and yet

662
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,440
people know the Vegas Golden Knights. I was surprised that

663
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,800
line was as cheap as it was yesterday. I look

664
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,559
for more of that going on. So there's three teams

665
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:19,519
right there for myself that I'm looking to fade the

666
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:23,800
rest of the way out. And you know, i'd see

667
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,760
what you have to say about the teams that you're

668
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,760
looking to fade or play on the rest of the season.

669
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: Not the Mayle be Laefs, that's for sure. That is

670
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,119
for sure. Not the Mayle Beliefs. I'll tell you why.

671
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:39,079
Like this Columbus Blue Jackets team, whether or not they

672
00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:41,480
make the playoffs or not, we just talked about it,

673
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:43,119
you know when I brought that tweet up that I

674
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:47,280
found everybody around them is winning, Brian. So even if

675
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,079
they're winning, so are the Ottawa Senators, so are the

676
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:52,880
Montreal Canadians, so are the Red Wings. So we could

677
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,199
still see a team like Columbus have a great end

678
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,719
of the year and still not make the playoffs, it'd

679
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,800
be really interesting to me see if they look to

680
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,960
they catch up to the Boston Ruins. But Columbus was

681
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,199
a team that I was looking at. New York the

682
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,280
Rangers are a team I'm looking to bet on. They

683
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,119
currently sit the last spot in the Eastern Conference. I

684
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,320
mentioned this a couple of days ago, and they've now

685
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,920
won two straight games. And don't get me wrong, they

686
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,639
weren't against absolute world beaters. But this was one of

687
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,480
those scenarios here where this team is starting to look

688
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:26,960
like the team that they were supposed to be the

689
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,000
whole time. And I get it, Ran Maple Leafs, Flyers

690
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
and Flames. We're not gonna make a huge deal out

691
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,599
of that. They've got the Kings and the Jets and

692
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:39,480
the Wild coming up. But I guess from a betting standpoint,

693
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,360
we're gonna get value. I think betting on this New

694
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,960
York Rangers team, it's it's almost like you're getting an

695
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,440
absolute by a low spot for the rest of the.

696
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: Season on the New York Rangers.

697
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: So from a unit's perspective, from a value perspective, I

698
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,639
think that New York Rangers present a little bit of

699
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,039
value and then the Seattle Kraken. I'm very curious here.

700
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:02,360
They've got a minus a les goal differential on the season.

701
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:06,719
They've got the LA Kings breathing down their throats. This

702
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,519
is put up or shut up time for the Seattle Kraken.

703
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,360
I don't know about you, Brian, That's probably the team

704
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,159
I've had the least amount of wagers on the entire season,

705
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,719
totals sides bet.

706
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: On or bet against.

707
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know who the Kraken are, but this is

708
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,480
a team competing, so I can get some decent odds

709
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:27,239
on them, because I feel like they are underrated in

710
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,119
the betting market. So Seattle might be a team I

711
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:34,960
look at moving forward. Nobody seems to have faith in them.

712
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,920
We'll see if LA can get going. They fire their coach,

713
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,280
and it was very late in the season for LA

714
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,559
to fire their coach, so we'll see if that ends

715
00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:44,559
up making a difference.

716
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: But I'm curious to see what happens there.

717
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: Our guy Nebraska says, when I buy a pick, I

718
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,599
pay for info and analysis, you keep giving me stats. Yeah,

719
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,480
I would say it's like a mixture of both, would

720
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,880
you say, Brian, Like analysis mixed with staff stuff like that.

721
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody does it a little bit differently. I'm more

722
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,320
of a spot player. I've given last year all my

723
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,880
write ups, I gave out a lot of stats, and

724
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,159
it seemed like they were just going on and on

725
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,880
and people just wanted to pick. They didn't want the stats.

726
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,159
So yeah, everybody is a little bit different. I do

727
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,039
give out smaller plays without the stats. For my seasonal

728
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:27,840
clients they already know. Like for example, today, I've got

729
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,239
one two plays up in college basketball, and one of

730
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,559
whom is a play I'm selling that I analyze. The

731
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:35,199
other one is just a smaller game. That way, I

732
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:37,760
could give out more plays for individual clients and don't

733
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,599
do the write ups on them. But yeah, everybody looking

734
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:44,039
for something else. Years ago, the last place I was

735
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,159
on before I went to ager Talk, they had a

736
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,920
forum and I asked everybody in the forum, and basically

737
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,320
sixty percent of the people said they only want to play.

738
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,679
It's the other forty percent wanted the analysis. I personally,

739
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,920
for my own betting. When I hear reach somebody else's analysis,

740
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,559
I don't care what the play is. I just want

741
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:02,800
the analysis because I want to add that to what

742
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,360
I'm thinking. And a lot of times, like you were

743
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,480
just saying about the first period for that goalie. That's

744
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:11,000
information I didn't know. It is enough to make me

745
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,039
have a player or not. I don't know, but it's

746
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:16,079
just more information. And that's the thing when you're looking

747
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,440
at analytics. There's a ton of information out there. You

748
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:23,159
have to weed out the things that don't mean anything.

749
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,400
It's like, you know, a lot of times they'll say

750
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:29,199
a team coming off of a loss, and the last

751
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:32,119
time they played this team, you know, it was thirty

752
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:34,239
games ago or whatever. That may not mean as much

753
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,320
as it does if they just played them last week.

754
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,320
So you've got you've got to take it all into

755
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,519
your head. And you've done this a long time. A

756
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,440
lot of our listeners have done this a long time. Yeah,

757
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,679
you know, and I do read other people either on

758
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,480
our site or other sites. Then handicap and a lot

759
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:52,519
of it that they put out there. I said, well,

760
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,639
that isn't anything to me. You know, they say this

761
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,880
team's fourteen to one on the season is a favorite,

762
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,199
but now you know they were seven point favorite and

763
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:03,000
all those other games in the NBA, now they're a

764
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,039
fourteen point favorite. That's a big difference, you know, So

765
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:08,760
you just have to take the information, put it in

766
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,000
your head, try to analyze the information. And I always

767
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,519
make the joke that if these guys are in the

768
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:17,719
locker room and one of the guys says, hey, do

769
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,599
you guys know that we're fourteen to two on a

770
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:23,159
Tuesday as an underdog, nobody's gonna laugh at them. But

771
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,119
yet people use that kind of information in their analysis.

772
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,039
With the guys in the locker room actually think that

773
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:30,079
meant anything, No.

774
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: They don't, right exactly, And like, for look, I have

775
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:36,519
always I've learned more and more about the market over

776
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,320
the years, understanding the numbers, the opening numbers, the way

777
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,599
things are moving. I have definitely I would say baseball

778
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:45,719
is what got me into the analytics, and then I

779
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,480
have transitioned that into hockey. But you know, I'm like,

780
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,119
I'm a hockey a diehard hockey guy, Like I love

781
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,599
watching the game, talking the game with people, and I

782
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:59,280
know the game. But I didn't always know the Coursey

783
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,280
four percent, it's the high danger chance percentages, all these

784
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,880
different things. So it's been interesting looking at these numbers.

785
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,599
Speaker 2: Now. Some people want.

786
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: The write ups where it's just out of your own head,

787
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,960
where you're just saying what I've been seeing and sometimes,

788
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,519
like one thing I've noticed with myself lately is you'll

789
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:18,199
have a right up that will look way different for

790
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,400
one game than the other. And one game is kind

791
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,440
of like what pres would call a field game, Like

792
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,599
this is out of my own head, like this is

793
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,800
what I feel about these two teams, and the other

794
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,199
one is like this data very strongly backs up the

795
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:36,000
Eulers defense is horrible. This team they're playing last five games,

796
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:38,840
has a strong offense, so on and so forth. So

797
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,119
it's very very fun to hear what everybody has to say,

798
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,719
and that's the beauty of it. We all look at

799
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,880
games in different ways. With all that being said, Brian,

800
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,480
I have not posted anything yet, but based on our discussion,

801
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,000
I do think I might end up on Montreal as

802
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,960
a small play, just because I think that it is

803
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,960
a very good number. It's a strong price on the underdog,

804
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,960
and we'll see. I'm I'm gonna have to double and

805
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,079
triple and quadruple check that first period Stata throw it

806
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,599
at you. But regardless, maybe this could be a night

807
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,039
to look at. Philip talk about freaky Friday, could be

808
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,480
a freaky Wednesday in the NHL two underdogs could cash

809
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,599
for me. One college basketball play for me. And again

810
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,119
we're getting ready for baseball season totals, team totals first five.

811
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,079
That's usually what I do. And I know Brian, you

812
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:28,920
love the baseball stuff as well. You got a great

813
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,159
package going on right now. Tell us about it and

814
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:32,000
we'll wrap the show up.

815
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:35,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got If you buy our baseball package for

816
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:36,840
the season at a discount of price, you get the

817
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,320
rest of hockey or free number one all time at

818
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,400
wager talk in that profit in hockey as well as

819
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,719
Major League Baseball. And even though I don't put on

820
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,119
any plays in the preseason games, I read every article

821
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:55,000
on how the guys are playing. I'm on five or

822
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:59,800
six different baseball websites. Picture List does a fantastic job.

823
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,440
They break down every pitchers they got these cards they

824
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,559
just put out, and it's it's been great all over

825
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:08,840
the internet. They're talking about it and they break it

826
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,920
down as to yes, they great them on what happened

827
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,320
in the game when they pitched, but they also broke

828
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,000
it down into their their control in that game, where

829
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
they were throwing the pitches, the speed of the pitches,

830
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,920
and they grade everything so they may have a guy

831
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,199
that they give them a B minus on how he

832
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:32,079
did in the game from a results standpoint, but if

833
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:33,800
you look at his stats, they give him a D

834
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,480
on control, They give them a you know, an F

835
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:40,039
on on velocity, and so it gives you a lot more.

836
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,119
It's like you know, in football, I like to look

837
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,320
at game scorers and that kind of thing. So it

838
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,840
just gives you different things to look at. And in

839
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,039
hockey you have to look at things because you can

840
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:51,599
watch a game and I hate to go back to

841
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:55,199
the Olympics and say this Canada is the better team

842
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,800
in the Olympics, no doubt about it. If you look

843
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,920
at all the stats, they were better. That's not how hockey's.

844
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,800
Hockey is a luck game. Baseball many times is a

845
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,960
luck game, and there's many passes that it's a great

846
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,039
good guys right on there and he whips on the

847
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:10,519
on the shot right in front of the goal. We

848
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,000
see it all the time. So uh yeah, it's it's different.

849
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:18,199
You do learn more playing watching the hockey, I think

850
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,159
than you do in watching a lot of other sports.

851
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,880
I watch football all the time. I've never played anything

852
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,360
more than junior high football, so I'm not an expert

853
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,199
in football, but you can usually tell by looking at

854
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,280
a football game if a guy's wide open, especially if

855
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,760
you've got that you know, that service where you can

856
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,800
look at the all thirteen or whatever they call it.

857
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,320
But yeah, you can look at things differently. Basketball. Many

858
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,360
times in the NBA, watching a game doesn't tell you anything.

859
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,239
You got to look at the stats. Hockey, watching the

860
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,199
game helps you a lot, in my opinion.

861
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: Just being able to check it.

862
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I've been I've been hosting

863
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,480
a podcast for a local team from where I live,

864
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:04,440
the hockey team, And one thing that's even funny is

865
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:07,239
I'm able to watch all the road games, like I

866
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,760
have the website subscription for watching the team's road games

867
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,960
and stuff. And when you're doing a podcast talking for

868
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,519
a team and you look at the stats versus actually

869
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,519
watching the game, it brings two different elements for the

870
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:24,039
podcast alone, Brian, like, I can talk about the stats

871
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:26,000
and the games, good summary and all that stuff, but

872
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:28,360
then to talk about a specific play that stood out

873
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,159
to me, or a goal that stood out to me,

874
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,440
or a bad hit, you have to watch the game.

875
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: And then two weeks ago, I was.

876
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,199
Speaker 1: In person at a game, and that's a whole other

877
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,880
level to it of being in it. And I know

878
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,840
that some people might say again like it's not a

879
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,559
huge deal, but I think sometimes you could notice things,

880
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:47,280
and maybe not forbetting, but for my podcast purposes. You

881
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,400
sound more informed and you have more to say if

882
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,320
you're actually watching the game. And I'll tip my cap

883
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,360
to Steve Merrill because he talks about with the NBA,

884
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,360
he finds that it can throw him off. Actually, if

885
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,960
he's watching the game, he prefers to look at hard

886
00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:02,760
hidden data, So I appreciate and respect him for that.

887
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: Forty six minutes.

888
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: I can't make fun of Carmine anymore because well we've

889
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,639
been yapping, that's for sure, and we've talked a lot

890
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:12,559
of sports and only two hockey games. But it was

891
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:14,280
a lot to break down, a lot to look at,

892
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,559
and certainly appreciate Brian for joining me once again. Guys

893
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:19,800
that car Mine is on a thirteen and one run,

894
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,199
so he's red hot. Brian has a fantastic package up

895
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,320
involving both the bases and hockey, and of course I

896
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,079
got action up tonight college basketball and in the NHL.

897
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,480
Wishing you guys all the best. We'll see you tomorrow's

898
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,400
same time, right here on puck time,