WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:07.120 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:28.239 Sports Talk seven nine day, now here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:35.240 So I've had a few people on the text line 4 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:38.840 mentioned the angle of the video that I posted of 5 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:40.600 me throwing out the first pitch at the Bats game 6 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:43.560 last night and saying that I did that strategically to 7 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:46.359 not make it look as bad. I did not do 8 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:48.759 that strategically. That was our man, Austin Montgomery, who you know, 9 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:51.240 is our teammate here at iHeart. He also works with 10 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.039 the Louisville Bats, and he came out on the field 11 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.119 and got the video for me, but he was just 12 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.640 standing where they had us, you know, walk out there 13 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:01.640 to do the pitch, and that's that's the angle that 14 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.920 he that he had. And I'll tell you, yes, it 15 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:05.840 did make it look better than it actually was because 16 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:09.799 of the view. However, you know, I'm willing to acknowledge 17 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:13.000 it was very high on outside. And man, I owe 18 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:17.079 buddy bat because he really had to work to get 19 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.000 that in his mit and not let it, you know, 20 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:21.879 maybe go into the stands and injure somebody. So not 21 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.400 only did he did he not make me look as bad? 22 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:26.480 I'm not saying I look good, but he didn't make 23 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.200 me look as bad. But also he might have saved 24 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:30.400 the life. But that's what you'd expect from Buddy bat 25 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.519 He's the best. But yes, yeah, that side view was 26 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.599 probably very generous when it comes to the other angles 27 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:39.319 that you could have you could have got that would 28 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.040 have made it look, you know, pretty bad. All right, 29 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:43.760 it is coffee and Company and we are fueled by 30 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.120 Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging 31 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:47.680 out with us. If you want to join us on 32 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:49.599 the show, you can. I've yet to mention that, but 33 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.599 usually our regulars know the way. You can text in 34 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.000 five O two six five three zero seven ninety on 35 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.359 the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text lines. Some text 36 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.879 already rolling in today and I'll get to I'll get 37 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:01.319 to more of them throughout the show today, and if 38 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:02.519 you want to, if you want to give us a call. 39 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.799 We had some callers earlier that dropped off because you know, 40 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:06.799 I just got to yapping and I am not in 41 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.400 studio today, so I didn't have the screen thing up. 42 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:10.840 But again, we'll open up the pall ones a little 43 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:12.479 bit later on. We are expecting a guest coming up 44 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.439 here any moment now, and that's the one the only 45 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:17.000 doctor Larry Ben's of pro Reap Physical Therapy looking forward 46 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.280 to to our weekly chat with him. But also, uh, 47 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.159 you know, I want to know about the Colin Lacy injury, 48 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:26.280 not the specifics and you know, details inside info because 49 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:27.599 you know, they can't give us that and I would 50 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.319 never ask them that, meaning those that are you know, 51 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:32.280 involved in the process. But what does the next you know, 52 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:35.280 two weeks look like for him? Right? He had surgery, 53 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.240 I guess this past weekend, and you know, now we 54 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:41.800 uh now we wait to see you know, if it 55 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:43.400 make guess, We're we're gonna be waiting a long time 56 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.800 to get any kind of anupdate. Right, it's a six 57 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:47.599 to eight week window. He just had surgery. So I'm 58 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:51.400 sure every now and then you'll hear someone ask Jeff 59 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:54.639 Bram or maybe Brian Bram when they have their media availability, 60 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.360 but they're not going to give you any I mean 61 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:58.159 they can in fact, they're not the ones who really 62 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:01.039 I mean, they're giving an up when a notable update 63 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:03.080 is available. And right now, I'm sure it's just he's 64 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:05.479 on the shelf and he's probably still you know, as 65 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.639 far as the rehab process, again, that's something Larry can 66 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.800 help us with. But as far as the rehab process, like, 67 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.439 I'm curious really when that starts, right, how long after 68 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:17.319 you have surgery, does you know, does that process start 69 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.759 to kind of you know, heal and and try to 70 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:22.280 get back to where you were able to play. So 71 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.680 again we're expecting doctor Ben's here any moment. But a 72 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:27.719 lot of people saying that, I'm I'm crazy for thinking 73 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:32.759 that Tom Brady dunking at forty seven in genes is 74 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:35.719 is that impressive? I mean, again, what you here's what 75 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.360 I'll say. As far as how impressive it is, that's 76 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:41.199 really just one man's opinion, right. I'm sure there's things 77 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.280 that I think are super impressive that you guys don't. 78 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.080 I'm sure there's things that you know, you think are 79 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:48.599 super impressive that I would never think is impressive. So 80 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:50.080 it really is just a matter of opinion when it 81 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.080 comes to that. But what I'm trying to emphasize is 82 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.000 that I don't think that that is as doable as 83 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.719 a lot of people think. But again, Tom Brady was 84 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.479 a professional athlete there for him doing something like that 85 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.039 shouldn't be that big of a shock. Maybe that's the 86 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:05.439 way I should look at him. For those are wondering 87 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:07.400 what the heck we're talking about. There's a video of 88 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:10.520 Tom Brady at forty seven dunking a basketball in jeans, 89 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:12.840 and yes, he's six four. But I just if you 90 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:14.919 would have told me Tom Brady couldn't ever dunk a 91 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.680 basketball at any point in his life, I would have 92 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:20.120 believed you, because you know, you can be tall. You 93 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.759 could be six seven and not be able to dunk 94 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:25.839 a basketball. Now, if you're six seven and you can 95 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.879 talk a basketball, it may be because you have like 96 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:29.839 a little bit of athleticism in you. But have you 97 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:31.720 ever I mean, there are a kid there I should say. 98 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:33.879 I mean not just kids. I'm sure there are people 99 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.480 that are adults now, but like, I think every school 100 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:40.360 that I could think of probably had a really tall 101 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.920 kid that you just wondered, why doesn't he play on 102 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.879 the basketball team? And then you like, you know, it's 103 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.360 pretty explainable, Well, he doesn't have an ounce of athleticism 104 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.360 in his body. I mean, there was a kid at 105 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:54.680 our school that was older than me. Whenever we were 106 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.160 I think I was a sophomore. He was a senior. 107 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:01.120 And he was our mascot, dressed up as the Eagle. 108 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:04.480 He was six ' nine maybe six ' ten, and 109 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:06.959 you know, he actually could dunk, by the way, because 110 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.600 he was so tall, but it wasn't anything impressive. It 111 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.240 was almost like he could barely dunk it. And you know, 112 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.959 we saw him play basketball and like pe and stuff, 113 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:16.720 and you realize, yeah, I mean, if he played on 114 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:19.399 the team, he'd give you some size that the other 115 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:21.360 team can be worried about when you're warming up, but 116 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:22.800 like he'd never leave the bench. 117 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.040 So anyways, the one thing that reminds me of and 118 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.040 this may or may not be the same thing, but 119 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.199 whenever I was in high school, sometimes the football team 120 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.600 would recruit soccer players to be kickers if they didn't 121 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:36.680 have anybody who was a kicker on their team. But 122 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:40.240 soccer kicking and pat kicking are a whole lot different. 123 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.879 Not that I ever tried, but those who usually did 124 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:45.759 tended to fail for the football. 125 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.680 Yeah, and there's a part of me that like, maybe 126 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.319 it's because I was so bad as an athlete compared 127 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.120 to I mean, I was so bad at all sports 128 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.279 other than basketball. It's not said I was great at basketball, 129 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:00.920 but I actually find it humbling, and because there are 130 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.759 so many, like there are very few people on the 131 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.959 planet that I feel like could actually be elite professional 132 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:10.120 athletes in multiple sports, and we're talking about like maybe 133 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:12.839 people on you know, two three fingers, like Lebron James. 134 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.279 I do believe that if Lebron James in his prime athletically, 135 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.040 which it doesn't seem like he. I feel like Lebron 136 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.360 has a prime at all times, Like I don't know when, 137 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:22.720 you know, and I'm not here to gas up Lebron, 138 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.879 but like, Lebron is a once in a lifetime athlete 139 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:26.279 and I don't know if we'll ever see anything like 140 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:28.560 that again. What I'm getting at though, is when it 141 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:32.000 comes to when it comes to like Lebron, it wouldn't 142 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:33.920 shock me if he just decided, you know, ten years ago, 143 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.240 you know what, basketball was great. I've got a lot 144 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.519 of rings. I'm now going to focus myself fully on 145 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.720 being a professional football player and I'm gonna be a receiver. 146 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.079 If Lebron James was a successful receiver, I would not 147 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:45.639 be shocked. But I do think for some reason, I 148 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.360 just like to see people humbled when they think that 149 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:49.240 they're so good at this sport and they's so athletic 150 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.800 that they could just automatically go over to another sport 151 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.079 and and be good at it. I mean, there's some 152 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.399 people that probably could do it but wouldn't be good, 153 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.680 and there's some that would embarrass themselves. So it's always 154 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.360 nice to be humbled. But anyways, let's bring him in. 155 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:04.480 He's doctor Larry Ben's of pro Rea Physical Therapy. Let's 156 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:08.360 ask Larry the question. Larry tom Brady forty seven years old, 157 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:11.639 professional athlete. Of course, he's now retired. A guy who 158 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:13.399 is up there as far as somebody that you just 159 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:15.920 know took care of their body better than most throughout 160 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.319 their career. Also, he played a position that for the 161 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.759 most part he wasn't getting hit. But at forty seven 162 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.439 years old, Larry tom Brady is dunking a basketball with 163 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:27.240 ease while wearing blue jeans. I have shared throughout the 164 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:29.519 show today that I think that's very impressive and I'm 165 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:31.639 very surprised to see that he can do that. But 166 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:33.240 I've learned that a lot of people think I'm an 167 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.399 idiot and that they don't think that's that surprising, because 168 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:37.120 you know, he's six or four and he's a pro athlete. 169 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.800 I still think it's rare than people would expect. 170 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.120 No, I think you're right. I mean, take his name 171 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.959 off the moniker for a second and just say, give 172 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.800 you a standardized test that a forty seven year old 173 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:52.000 can take a one legged hop, a two legged you know, 174 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:56.040 high jump you know where you're literally mentioned, or broad 175 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.199 jump where you're measuring straight up, and those are standardized tests. 176 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.199 In fact, they screen football players for him. Well, in 177 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:02.959 his age group, he's got to be off the charts. 178 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:04.879 He's got to be at the ninety nine percent level. 179 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.040 And that's impressive. And to your point, he's you know, 180 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.199 I don't know if you'd call the most naturally gifted 181 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.079 athlete in the world, but you'd certainly call him the 182 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:14.920 one who made the most out of what he had 183 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.480 and made it better. If you look at his body 184 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.600 from the time he was a rookie and go back 185 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:23.120 and YouTube that, will you know, tryout in Indianapolis where 186 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.360 in that sprint he doesn't even look like an athlete 187 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:25.680 at all. 188 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:27.160 He doesn't. He belongs. 189 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.000 No, it's exactly right. And what he's done through a 190 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:34.879 series of nutrition and fitness and sleep and monitoring and 191 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:38.919 data and science is is amazing irrespective of his accomplishments 192 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:39.679 on the football field. 193 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.399 And you know, he didn't stop playing football because his 194 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:44.679 body just gave out. Now, he probably had lost a 195 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:46.559 little bit on his arm, he wasn't as polished as 196 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.799 he might have been. But I mean, I mean, I 197 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:51.480 think he you know, just given the way he was protected, 198 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.600 in the way he plays the position, and how well 199 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.600 as you as you mentioned, he takes care of his body, 200 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.080 he could probably still play. And it wouldn't It wouldn't 201 00:08:58.080 --> 00:08:59.639 shock me. He could still be starting in the NFL 202 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:00.000 right now. 203 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.320 Well, he certainly could play in a platoon type system 204 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.440 where I feel like in his last years, not just 205 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.759 at New England, but particularly when he got to Tampa, 206 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:11.639 all the scheme was built around what he could still 207 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:15.799 do physically. Sure, and that's not any different than if 208 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.639 you have a certain style quarterback in college that you're 209 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:21.080 building a scheme around. So I think you're right. Could 210 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:23.679 he start and make it through an entire season without 211 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:25.480 getting hurt in a more standardized offense. 212 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:26.080 Probably not. 213 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.879 And yeah, the NFL is they always looking at the future, 214 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.919 so they want, you know, the next superstar, and his 215 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.240 career is I mean, Lesia I'm looking forward. 216 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:34.440 You know. 217 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.720 The first game that he announces is the Cleveland Browns 218 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:39.080 Dallas Cowboys game, the four thirty game on Sunday, the 219 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:40.000 eighth of September. 220 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:41.960 That'll be a big one. What do you what are 221 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.440 your expectations for him as a broadcaster. Obviously somebody who 222 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:48.200 knows the game, somebody who I feel like will be 223 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:50.360 He'll be good in the you know, but there's a transition, 224 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.200 right going from being a player to being somebody that 225 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.320 is in fact a part of the broadcast. I get 226 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:56.639 the sense that a lot of people think he'll be 227 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:58.399 kind of, you know, kind of kind of dry and 228 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:00.600 kind of boring. I actually think he'll be pretty good. 229 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:04.480 I am with you one hundred percent. If you look, 230 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.759 he has sort of foreshadowed things in the last couple 231 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.440 of months. He's been outspoken, he's been lecturing, he's been 232 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:14.480 on YouTube, and he's really has a little bit almost 233 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:16.960 of a little shock value. I mean, go look at 234 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.159 some of his recent things that he said. What I 235 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.399 think you're going to see is a better is an 236 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.919 incredibly prepared announcer. If you remember Tony row in his 237 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.080 first few years, he was just so prepared. Then he 238 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:28.639 had kind of the hiccup, and then last year he 239 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:30.600 had a good year. I think you're going to see 240 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:34.480 Tom Brady. He's, you know, already probably the highest paid announcer, 241 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.600 but I think he's going to do terrific and added 242 00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:40.559 dimension that's going to bring a large viewership. Viewership brings advertising, 243 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:42.679 Advertising brings dollars, So I think it's gonna be a 244 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:43.240 grand slam. 245 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:45.200 I'm with you, and I think that's why he's making 246 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.759 the big dollars, because they see, they see the potential 247 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:49.559 in him, you know, making them a lot of money 248 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:51.279 as well with those advertisers, no doubt about it. But 249 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.519 doctor Larry Beinn's our guest joining us here on Sports 250 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:55.759 Talk seven ninety. Larry, I've got a lot of questions 251 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.799 when it comes to Colin Lacy. I'll start with just 252 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:02.480 from a trainer's perspective of whenever he goes down, has 253 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:06.879 the injury in their scrimmage? Is a broken collarbone something 254 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.960 that you know, the professionals can can maybe sense right 255 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.399 away depending on what he's telling them about his pain. 256 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.720 Do you have to get the imaging done sort of? 257 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:16.840 You know, how long do you think it was before 258 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.279 they felt pretty confident? That this was in fact a 259 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.120 collarbone injury that was going to need surgery. 260 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.720 Yeah, literally seconds when he went down, he was likely 261 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:28.759 grabbing his collarbone. If you go right to sort of 262 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:32.000 your your neck, you'll see a muscle the sticking out 263 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:36.000 that connects effectively your neck to the collarbone. Sternal clido 264 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.399 mast it is what that's called technically, And usually when 265 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:42.039 you get an injury like that, ones goes up and 266 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:45.200 the collision goes the opposite way and you fracture it 267 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.279 typically right at that point of where that muscle insertion is. 268 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.840 It depends on your age and these these injuries are 269 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.600 actually more common in youth. And I don't know his age, 270 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:56.279 but he certainly played. You know, he played last year 271 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.039 where at South Alabama or somewhere, so he's. 272 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:58.840 Been twenty two. 273 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.519 Yeah, Now it's a little scary on this one is 274 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:06.159 a set extended period of time. Normally you're looking at 275 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.559 you know, six eight weeks. I don't know if he 276 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:10.720 had surgery. In all honesty, I don't think they've they've 277 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.000 written anything about it the community. 278 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.519 He posted a picture in the hospital indicating that he 279 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.960 did have surgery. I believe the surgery was on Sunday, gotcha. 280 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:24.399 So that would be more of a stability of that bone, 281 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.480 and those are pretty serious surgeries, but they're sick to 282 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:29.919 call it eight to twelve weeks. So you're you're looking 283 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:32.440 at what we have two buys this year? 284 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:32.720 Do we? 285 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:34.600 I think so? I mean maybe at the end of 286 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:39.039 the year and hopefully we picked up another receiver, as 287 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.960 I'm told. So it's a really really tough injury and 288 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.360 a really unusual one. We're kind of snake bit at 289 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.720 u of l on wide receivers during training camps. If 290 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:51.639 you go back historically between DeVante Parker and who is 291 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:53.639 the wide receiver we had transferred from Notre Dame that 292 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:56.720 was pretty good here his ankle and we've had those 293 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.440 kind of injuries because they monitory. 294 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.960 Yeah, and Scott larry Is Michael Lee Harris remember his 295 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.799 injury that took place during Yeah, I mean we have 296 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:11.000 been You're right the it's I talked about earlier in 297 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:13.279 the week. I remember Devonte coming back for such a 298 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.840 special senior season, already a Louisville legend at his juniors 299 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:18.759 after his junior season, but decided to come back for 300 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:21.679 coach Petrino's first season back at Louisville, and I remember 301 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:24.360 being at the State Fair and getting that getting you know, 302 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.720 my phone being blown up by people? Did you hear 303 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.000 about Devonte Parker? And I was just heartbroken. Same thing 304 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.200 last Saturday, Larry I was at the state Fair. Same 305 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.159 thing happened with Colin Lacy. So I'm gonna stay away 306 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.840 from the State Fair on Saturdays when louis football has scrimmages. 307 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:38.679 Yeah, there you go. And and you know, he looked 308 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:39.720 like he was going to be one of our go 309 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:42.039 to receivers. So it's a it's a tough one, but 310 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:47.240 you know, I have so so much confidence in Brahms's 311 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:51.279 ability to adopt to these situations, adapt the situations, especially 312 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.440 so early in the season. And you know, we've got 313 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:56.360 great coaching, great you know, hopefully enough roster players to 314 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:59.840 make that work. But you know, we we we've seen 315 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:02.519 the find a receiver that comes on, you know, early 316 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.480 mid season who's kind of a one we didn't count on, 317 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:07.519 kind of a sleeper, And so I suspect that's the 318 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:08.720 same thing will happen this year. 319 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:12.080 So one more one on Colin. What does the process 320 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:14.879 look like for for so, if you had surgery, I 321 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.600 guess is that something they feel like, Okay, we've we've 322 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.240 we've got the ability to do it right away, so 323 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:20.879 let's just do it. Or is it, hey, we've got 324 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.399 to get we've got to have this surgery because if 325 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:25.559 we you know, if he's out there without the surgery 326 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:27.919 taking place, it could it could impact the rehabs, like 327 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.399 what goes into the I mean if they had waited 328 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.320 a week or two, I mean maybe that would have 329 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.080 slowed down his recovery. I suppose, But I'm just curious about, like, 330 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.480 when do they make that decision Okay, let's go ahead 331 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:38.720 and get this operation done. 332 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.639 Yeah, to sort of cut to the chase, the reality 333 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:45.519 is it depends on the fracture and if they didn't 334 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:50.600 feel that mother nature on its own would align, you know, 335 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.200 the bone correctly and stabilize it, because usually you're in 336 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:55.080 kind of a halter for lack of a better term. 337 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.840 In this case, they must have felt like they needed 338 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:01.320 to add more stability, so they reinfor Wurst. It likely 339 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.120 with a plate, and the rehab for a while is 340 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:06.960 really not much because you know, they'll get him on 341 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.240 a bike and do some things cardio wized, but he 342 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:11.200 needs to keep that thing stable for a good four 343 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:14.120 to six weeks. I begin to use his shoulder and 344 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.600 then there are some types of padding and other kind 345 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.720 of things, you know, as he gets back into the 346 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.759 simulation stage. But it's it's, uh, you know, it's a 347 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.279 fracture healed with with with with surgery, and you know 348 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.399 it's unfortunately going to take it to twelve weeks. 349 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:32.639 Yeah, so take away, let's just remove Colin Lacy from 350 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.480 this question just in general, if you haven't an athlete, 351 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:36.759 and I guess it all depends on what type of 352 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:38.639 injury it is. Of course that's a big factor. But 353 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.320 when you when the window is okay, man, we could 354 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.559 really go through this rehab plan that's pretty pretty pretty fast. 355 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:45.879 Uh. 356 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.360 And and it's it's we're fast tracking it, and it 357 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:50.639 gives you a chance to maybe get a game or 358 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:53.799 two in maybe three. But man, it's going to be tight, 359 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.759 a tight window of Tom. It's best case scenario. I mean, 360 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.279 could you know, not saying they're doing this with him specifically, 361 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:01.720 but like whenever you know that the timeline is best 362 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:03.600 case scenario, maybe they get in a game or two. 363 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:06.840 You know, in the in the sports medicine world, is 364 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:11.240 it common for the professionals to simply urge like you know, 365 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.120 best case scenarios one or two. But we could go 366 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:14.799 through this part. Part we could go through, we could 367 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:17.200 take this path, and again it still doesn't give you 368 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.000 a whole lot to play. We should probably just shelf 369 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:21.639 you for a year and really give yourself time to 370 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:23.720 fully recover. I'm sure that that comes up from time 371 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:25.799 to time, right, people wanting to really rush it because 372 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:27.279 they want to get on the field, but maybe having 373 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.960 those that work in sports medicine tell them, look, I'm 374 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:31.879 telling you what the best best option is for you, 375 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.399 and that's to actually not even try to play this year, 376 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:36.440 get fully healthy, and come back next year. 377 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:39.840 Now that's a good point. That's why they have medical 378 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:41.919 red shirts. I think the key in this is that 379 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.039 it's a medical decision, not a football decision per se. 380 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:49.080 And so as he progresses in his recovery, you know, 381 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.799 post you know, eight weeks, let's say it starts to 382 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.279 you know, get active, they'll make decisions and those decisions 383 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:58.840 are based on objective data. For example, the X ray, 384 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:01.080 what do the ends look like then that they're connected 385 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:04.599 back on the collar bone, his ability to move his arm, 386 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:06.839 you know, what does that motion look like is there 387 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:09.839 swelling there? Then you start to get more into the 388 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:12.160 you know, simulation and practice phase, and then can you 389 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.799 take a hit, And all those will be objective signs 390 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:16.799 and it will be a decision that the medical team 391 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.680 will make and that in conjunction with him and his family, 392 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.720 you know, or now today's day, I guess you could 393 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.599 say his agent. Sure, you know, they'll make a decision, 394 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:28.240 and maybe the best decision for him is to red shirt. 395 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:31.079 But that's you know, that's that's not anything that at 396 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:32.039 this stage you can tell. 397 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.160 So with the uf L students and I guess students 398 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:37.680 across the country going back to school this week, I 399 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.119 know athletes are usually there earlier and some really stay 400 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.720 year round or at least for the majority of the 401 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:46.119