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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka colored.

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Speaker 2: A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in

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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.

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Thank you for telling a friend.

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Speaker 3: That's how we.

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Speaker 1: Spread the word about the by Ridge.

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Speaker 3: Dan's here in his A Yankee cap getting ready for

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spring training. Some in full swing.

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Speaker 1: I've watched a spring training game of twenty years.

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Speaker 2: So that's just fun, especially if you get one in

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late February, because you're sort of seeing like Sarahsota Florida

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or something and it's like, ah, yes, life will come

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back eventually. But yeah, that's that's kind of fun. I

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like to start out today, Dan, if you don't mind,

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within an apology.

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Speaker 3: And I had to do this, not to you, not

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to you, to a listener.

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Speaker 2: I had said some things on the podcast which will

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be made clear in their statement to me. I'll even

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give you my statement back to them.

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Speaker 1: A mala.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a malacopa. Yes, that's that's that's pretty good. This

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person writes, and I will leave their name out of it.

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I listened to every single podcast of Billified since you began.

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Now Doug was in here the other day, you and

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Doug talking about g LP one's show your Ignorance.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I said after you should not

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throw out your judgmental opinions. Doug didn't.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: Saying it's the easy way out is totally not true

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for people who truly are obese. GLP shots have been

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used and tested for over twenty years with no long

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term problem. Some people may need to take the med for.

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Speaker 3: The rest of their life.

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Speaker 2: GLP is a hormone type peptide that humans make in

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their body, but obese.

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Speaker 1: People again, I'm gonna start laughing at I'm trying not to.

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Speaker 2: Obese people don't make enough of it, similar to how

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diabetics don't make enough insulin. For people who have fought

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fat their whole life, this is life changing and it

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also is anti inflammatory for some. It takes away arthritis

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or other chronic problems. Also very helpful for preventing cardiac issues.

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It's miraculous. You really sounded defensive to me. I'm still

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a loyal listener, but couldn't help but tell you how

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really dumb. You sounded tonight, not sorry. Now what I

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said was I don't have a problem with anybody using

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g LP ones.

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Speaker 3: Because it came up.

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Speaker 2: Doug had gone to turks and caicos, and I called

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it turks and fatsos.

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Speaker 1: He's had a picture and caos, jerks and candles.

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Speaker 2: He uh, he had a he had a picture of

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him on the beach.

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Speaker 3: But that I mean that belly was like a bowling

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ball on it.

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Speaker 2: And I said to him, I go, you know, it's

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sort of unfair because and I probably sounded like even

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more ignorantive. A friend of his was getting married, so

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he was a destination wedding and he was invited and

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he went down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of uber light rides for that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he yeah, did.

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Speaker 1: He ask if he could fly the plane? I don't know.

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I don't know, but I carried people around all the time.

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I think he was, uh every.

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Speaker 2: So he brought up the GLP and I and I said, yeah,

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I think they're great for people to lose weight. I

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think anything that's going to help you feel better about yourself,

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I have no problem with it, whether it be plastic.

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Speaker 3: Surgery or anything.

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Speaker 2: On a very simple level. I have no problem with

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any of that because it's hard enough, right, the human

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experience is tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever's gonna get you through the day, I'm cool

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with that.

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Speaker 3: But then if you ask.

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Speaker 2: Me my opinion of gop ones, all I said was,

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you know, I've noticed since a lot of celebrities who

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were out there going big as beautiful and love me

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for who I am.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard that, And that's all I said. Don't

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don't don't jump in yet. Don't jump in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, go, let me finish my thought.

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Speaker 1: I've said a word.

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Speaker 2: No, I heard you. You're ready. I know you're ready.

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But this is where you're smart. You write it down.

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So I just said, what happened to all those people

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who were telling me, I go, where's the lizzos? Oh?

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They're skinny now, so it doesn't fucking matter. Like so

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in a were you all full of shit because the

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golp one's And all I said about the golp ones

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and I would say this, and I'm basing my information

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on people who had gastic gastric bypass surgery. Does it

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help you in the short term, yes, but if you're

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not disciplined, it's not gonna work anyway. Do you have

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to stay on shots for the rest of your life?

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This person rights that. Maybe that some people have to

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do that. Some people may have to do that if

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they're diabetic and it's really working for them, that's wonderful.

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I don't want to be giving myself a shot all

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the time. But when you used to say things like,

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you know, diet and exercise, people would start fucking jumping

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up and down at You're going, no.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me. I come from a big family.

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Speaker 1: Bah bah bah.

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Speaker 2: Oh Okay, Hey, look, I'm not a chemist. I'm not

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a I'm sure you know that. I'm not a doctor.

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I'm not a biophysicist. I have no idea what really

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goes on. All I know is myself. I did do

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one of those extreme diets and I lost weight.

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Speaker 3: I didn't put anything.

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Speaker 2: I didn't there were drops and some bullshit like that,

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but most of it was like seven hundred calories when.

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Speaker 3: I was doing it a day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's tough, but it worked, and it took

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it off very quickly, and it took it off for

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a long time. But it's amazing what it does for

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your body. And I'm sure the people that are losing

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the weight, are seeing all the benefits this person who

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thank you for listening every day sincerely, or every episode.

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Speaker 3: That this person is also seeing.

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Speaker 2: Right, you lose the weight, there's probably less pain on

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the joints, the inflammation goes down. All those things are wonderful.

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All I'm saying is it's like a shortcut to get there.

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And just like I was talked about the story of

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my aunt's husband, his name is Frank, and my parents

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when they after the house burn dad, they rebuilt this

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really nice house, but they had a powder room right

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off the kitchen. And my aunt and her husband lived

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in Albany, about an hour away from my mom, and

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so she would be there for like, let's say, Easter

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dinner or whatever, and all of a sudden, like twenty

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five minutes after they left, Frank would come literally running

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into the house and he'd go into the bathroom and

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he would fucking blow it up, dude, because he over eight.

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And the thing was like, I'm sure that feels, pardon

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the pun, shitty, but and I said, my father used

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to say all the time, here would go, let me

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be Frank with you, Please don't.

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Speaker 3: That's what my dumb dads that was his dad, Joe.

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Speaker 1: He was clever, heways clever.

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Speaker 3: So but the thing was like, I go, okay. So

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Speaker 2: And some people blew through it and put weight on

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and had to have another surgery or whatever. I'm not

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sure what's going to happen with the with the golp ones.

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If it's working for you, wonderful, don't fucking listen to me.

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But if you ask me my opinion, and no one

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really did, I just spit it out, so let me

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let me go there. But if I were asked my opinion,

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my opinion would be I'm cautious because it's not giving you,

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it's not changing your lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: I've heard people who have tried it.

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Speaker 2: It didn't really work for them, but the cramping and

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the pain was so unbelievable. Maybe there's different ones. I

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Speaker 3: It's not something I want to try. Do I need

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to lose weight, you bet your sweet ass.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: Do I have a plan for it, You bet your

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sweet ass.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: So those are but that's different to me. Doesn't mean

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that I'm right, although I think I am.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 5: I love the fact that people listen to the podcast

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or any podcasts for that matter. I've always believed and

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I learned this lesson in the break room. If you

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can't laugh at yourself, you have no right to laugh

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at anything else or anybody else, because at some point it's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be your turn. How do you handle it?

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And you weren't making fun of this situation.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't trying.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's got an opinion on things, and all of a sudden,

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when the person who you know gets offended by someone's

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opinion lashes out, I don't say lashes out, but gets

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angry about that and says you're uneducated and all this

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other stuff. Okay, well show me the data, and they

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kind of did. But it's okay to disagree. Here's where

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you're coming from here. Here's what I agree with. Okay,

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ozempic all those drugs they want you on, those drugs

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for life.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I mean.

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Speaker 5: You ever own a credit card the credit card company,

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Speaker 1: Why Because you got a credit card, you could pay

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it off a little bit at once, and the credit

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card company is betting the odds. What are the odds

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that you won't pay it? All off the time that

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you will have to pay a little bit, a little bit,

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a little bit more, and a little bit more, a

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little bit more, and then they got you on the chain. Right.

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It was an experiment that was started in Fresnel, California,

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and now it's spread globally. Did the credit card.

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Speaker 5: And like I remember, like when I was a young guitarist,

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Speaker 1: Buy the guitar.

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Speaker 5: They no, you can get financing interest free for twelve months, right,

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haven't paid the guitar off, the interest rate was something

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like twenty two percent, which is ridiculous. So what did

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any payment. It's like, you know, I'll make it eventually.

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I'll make it eventually, and I never did. Eventually had

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if you need credit, guess what they're gonna be able

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to milk it. It's the same thing with this. If

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you change your lifestyle or if you do the work,

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you won't need to be hooked on this chain because

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I know a lot of people want to talk about stats. Yeah,

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I know people who've gotten off GLPS and guess what,

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they're bigger than they were before they got out.

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Speaker 3: That's too bad. Into an accordion, I don't.

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Speaker 1: And that's dangerous to what because the drug companies have

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played the odds against you that you're not going to

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change your lifestyle. You're gonna go back to being what

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Speaker 2: But I would say this too, died an exercise. It's

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amazing when I did do that diet. How much better

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I slept, how much clearer I thought. So there's stuff

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in our diet, right, but it's hard to avoid. You know,

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so and I think too, like exercise isn't just good

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for your body, it's good for your mental health.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 1: Here's one of the best pills you can take is

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your exercise.

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Speaker 2: Here's my response, just so you know, dud and I

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really was not trying.

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Speaker 3: I don't like.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you were trying to be a shoe,

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I said, And maybe I said, I was yelling at

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a little bit and stuff. You know, it's a show

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you tune in for this reason.

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Speaker 2: So I said, I appreciate you saying this seriously, and

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thank you for riding with bilified from day one.

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Speaker 3: That matters to me.

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Speaker 2: If I came off ignorant or dismissive about gop meds,

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that's on me. The last thing, the last thing I

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ever want to do is minimize something that's genuinely life

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changing for people. I was riffing, not researching. And those

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are two different lanes. That said, you understand that not

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everyone using them is in the category you describe, but

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even those people shouldn't be minimized.

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Speaker 3: Point taken.

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Speaker 2: I can have opinions without being flippant about someone else's

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health journey. Thanks for calling me out. And then I said, uh,

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this was really me, not Doug. I don't know why

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I feel like I needed to add that, but if.

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Speaker 5: You ever watch a YouTube video with someone who's an influencer,

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they have to put the disclaimer for entertainment purpose. If

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you don't have that drilled into your head by now, look,

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I can't help.

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Speaker 2: You, no, But the thing is, like, it was my

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opinion on something that is working for her.

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Speaker 3: It's great this person, this person I didn't what do

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you care for?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad they did, because that's what I want.

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I want you to be a feel like you can

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interact with this show and you can be heard on

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this show and we could have discussions on these things

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and that's it. But the biggest look to me, the

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the worst thing for humans is uncertainty. Right, So if

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I start this diet, I'm uncertain I could stick with it.

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But if I think this drug is going to do

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it for me, I'm might be better at sticking with it.

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It's a weird thing, right, And it would be funny.

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It would be really interesting to me if they somewhere

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Speaker 1: Feel like I'm getting better.

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Get started on that to do list today, Mac of

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All Trades. No job too small. I've always been a

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fan of Billy Idol. I remember, like in the high

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school and stuff. A lot of my buddies went to

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see him in concert and ship my friend Jeff Kotch,

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I think was in an elevator with him in Albany

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and like at the same hotel or whatever, and he's like.

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Speaker 3: Fucking Billy.

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Speaker 2: I don't Billy reaches out like reaches up because he's

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a little guy, goes at least. But Billy Ida went

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on Bill Maher's podcast Club Random, which is an interesting

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listen if you've ever had the opportunity, and he said

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that he got off heroin by smoking crack and I

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was like, sure, I get it because I think in

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like nineteen eighty four, I mean, Billy Idol, there's a

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documentary that's coming out. I think it's going to be

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I don't know how why the release will be, but

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the documentaries, if it's not, it may already be out.

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Speaker 1: I'm so behind the documentaries. I want to watch her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know what you mean, right, because clearly I.

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Speaker 5: Have to wait for my wife to go on a

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vacation on her own to catch up in all the

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documentaries I want to watch. Well, because we can't agree

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to him, she won't watch documentaries. I think they're even

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a music yeah, and I think they're fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Well, they give you some good information. I would also

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say that, you know, like anything, there may be somebody

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who's like bent telling this side.

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Speaker 3: Of a story.

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Speaker 2: They're storytellers, yes, and they all do have their own perspective,

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and that's that's the only thing.

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Speaker 1: You take them with a grain of salt. But this

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one is called Billy Idol Should Be Dead.

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Speaker 2: And I fucking loved the title, and I love Billy Idol,

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and I go, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, Billy Idol was heroin.

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Speaker 2: Like he left the man X came to the United

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States to start his solo career, and man he just

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talked about and the article I read uh had him

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talking to the Associated Press and the New York Times

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and People magazine. He had come here, and he said

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his drug use ramped up as his popularity did. But

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then he got into heroin and and he said, I

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didn't always shoot it. I usually snorted it. And then

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I don't know why. So heroin was bad. But then

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the crack, which is basically freebasing cocaine, is like amazing.

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Then he had that motorcycle accents like because I forget,

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I think his eyes without a face or I don't

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remember what the song is, but the video on MTV.

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All you saw was Billy idn'l like in he was

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inside picture frames like walking down the hall and stuff

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like that. And the reason he was is he couldn't

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really stand at the time because as matter of fact,

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I am pretty sure.

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Speaker 1: It was a white wedding. That doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I am pretty sure that Billy Idol was up for

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a role in Terminator two, and because of the motorcycle accident,

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he couldn't do the required running. I'm almost positive that

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that's a real thing. Okay, I'm pretty sure that that's

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what happened. And I haven't listened to Bill Maher's podcast.

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If it comes out on that, I wouldn't be surprised.

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But I mean, he even said here like I'm lucky

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I've kept a brain because some people went brain dead

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and some people ended up in jail forever. And he

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I think here he was talking to the Associated Press

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and he said, imagine if it was today, if I

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was doing what I was back then, today, I would

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be dead because I would have run into fentanyl.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, right.

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Speaker 3: But it's like we got this thing in our brain.

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We want stimulation and reward and so you know, and

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I have heard. I've been told that the first the

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heroin high is the most euphoric high ever, and then

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after that you just keep tracing that feeling, and that's

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where a lot of people kind of kind of lose

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their stuff. But I go, you know, Billy Idol's heroin

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to crack, and I'm thinking, I know people who have

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traded vices. You know, bad eating for smoke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the most common one.

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Speaker 3: Well, the bad eating for smoking or vice vice versa.

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Speaker 2: I gotta stop smoking, so then bad eat badly and

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I can put it on a lot of weight.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not fried. I'm not gonna do a gop one.

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I'm going back to cigarettes.

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Speaker 5: Hey look, I switched from ruffles to trisc its, and

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I gotta tell you, man, this has been great.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And then Billy Idol says that he's California Sober. Now

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I'm not even California's sober. I think we're You don't

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like Buffalo sober, like that movie. No, I think California

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sober is like where you don't do anything, but you

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do weed, okay, or maybe you dabble a little bit

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in drugs, but you don't maybe you don't drink. Could

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be I don't know what California sober. It just sounds

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like it was made by some surfer. Dude goes, hey, man,

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here's what he gets.

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Speaker 1: In a movie.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Drug rereab designed by a surfer.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't. I'm going. Is Billy Idl the only.

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Speaker 1: Guy who could ever say I got clean by doing crack?

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He's seventy's still live.

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Speaker 3: I know Billy Idol should be dead.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Well, Keith Richards is the ultimate exact I know, you know.

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And then you got the guy Bob Weir.

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Speaker 1: Who was like in his eighties was a health nut, yeah,

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and ended up dying. Well, I mean like you once

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you cross eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: He was seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you get up there. All bets are off

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a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: All bets are off, sure, I guess, but you try

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to do your best to do whatever. But then sometimes

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you know, disease and things gets in there. I was

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thinking of another one, porn in place of promiscuity.

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Speaker 1: There's a well, there's a they call in cells.

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Speaker 5: Guys who can't get can't get laid. Yeah, so they

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just watch porn and jo and so that's that's why,

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that's how they you know.

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying, let's say you were a very

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promiscuous person. Oh, instead of going out, they just maybe.

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Speaker 2: You found somebody. But but you always have that little

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bit of an urge, like it's the it's like the heroin,

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it's the vagina.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure that there's like lots of like, well, okay,

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we worked with a guy Tommy, who told us that

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in England there used to be a health tip put

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together by the government that says trade Guinness for whiskey.

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It's considered a health tip because they had less calories. Right,

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But that's like, you know, it's like trading. Yeah, but

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you trading one evil, one evil for another.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Partying also, now, I can't you know, I'm not going

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to the clubs. Am I hanging out with this crowd anymore?

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I become a CrossFit junkie. That's my new party crowd.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I get healthier.

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Speaker 5: But I mean I think that people who rip on

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people because there's a crowd of people who do this, right,

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people who trade a bad vice for a good habit

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like working out or Christianity or faith or something. There's

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a group of people say, oh, you're just trading one

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addiction for another. No, you're actually like upgrading your life.

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One is healthy one isn't.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think that's like a vice necessarily.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, but I mean you, I mean, if if you

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have an addictive personality, you may as well channel that

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into something that's positive, that's good, that's reinforcing, not something

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that is destructive.

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Speaker 1: No, I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: But then there are there's always, like with any addiction,

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sometimes there's a fall from grace, you know what I mean, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, relapse.

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Speaker 2: But yes, I will say that I here's the thing

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that here's something that'll probably get me another scolding from

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a listener.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not a big believer that addiction.

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Speaker 1: Is a disease. I'm with you on that one.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean to sound mean to anybody. Whatever

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is going to make your life better. You have a

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loved one that's going through some stuff and you want

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to call it a disease and they're trying to get help. Fine,

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it doesn't matter. I'm just looking at this more like

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clinically sort of, I think it's a mask for something else.

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There's a lot of pain, a lot of trauma somewhere

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in your life that you're avoiding because this is a

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wonderful escape.

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Speaker 3: You don't think about anything when you're high, you know

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what I mean. You just you can't.

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00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 2: You laugh, you feel good, your body feels good, you

473
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,400
say things that are funny if you're drinking, you know

474
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,359
what I mean, depending on what you're using. And I

475
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,240
think that that becomes like the mask for the real pain.

476
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,279
And so when somebody goes from partying to the gym

477
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:07,759
or all of a sudden, somebody becomes like uber christian

478
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,480
like almost like feels like they're overdoing it to a

479
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,319
certain extent, like, oh, they weren't there three months ago,

480
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,880
and now they're baptized and they're handing out the panther.

481
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:21,440
It does feel like you're not dealing with whatever the

482
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,119
issue is. You found something else to mask that pain,

483
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,400
to keep you away from the pain, right, It keeps

484
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,799
me away from the pain except for those quiet moments.

485
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,119
And that's where I think a lot of times, when

486
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,279
it's just you and your thoughts, that's where I think

487
00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:37,960
a lot of people stumble. If the new year has

488
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,680
you saying I did not sign up for this, like

489
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,960
a worker's comp case, social security disability, or a personal

490
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,400
injury claim. Don't try to google lawyer your way through it.

491
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:52,319
Go to Connors and Farris. They have offices in Buffalo,

492
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,559
New York City, Syracuse, and Rochester and they'll get back

493
00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:00,359
to you within twenty four hours. Yeah, so even when

494
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,240
you're stress scrolling at two am, you can call two

495
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:05,680
six to two COMP, tell them a little bit about

496
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,759
what's going on in your life, and within twenty four

497
00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:10,720
hours one of their attorneys will get back to you.

498
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,599
Speaker 3: You'll talk to real lawyers who.

499
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,519
Speaker 2: Will explain things in plain English, not legal mumbo jumbo.

500
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:23,319
Workers comp, social security disability, personal injury complicated, Absolutely something

501
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,799
you should handle alone. Nope, Connors and Ferris experienced, responsive

502
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,160
and committed to serving. You better call two six' to TWO.

503
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,720
Comp helps available right. Now but did you ever sit

504
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,920
at a red light and look around and, GO i

505
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,279
wonder how sober everybody in the other cars really are

506
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:45,519
at this?

507
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 5: Moment sobriety not at the red light WHEN i see,

508
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,680
them like driving back and forth in between lanes and,

509
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,839
stupid stuffy, yea and, yes, okay or like if it's snowing,

510
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,759
out But peter, side, no they're in a.

511
00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: Hurry but if you got somebody who's, like grip the

512
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,400
wheel or just straight, AHEAD i always go for.

513
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: The coke bottle.

514
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: Glasses well not the coke bottle.

515
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: Glasses, yes well that's, yeah that's somebody who shouldn't probably, too.

516
00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: Which is, accurate by the, way.

517
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:19,839
Speaker 2: BUT i Always and then you look over at somebody

518
00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:25,000
else and you, go either they just left yoga or

519
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,960
a felony because they're, sweaty, stringy you know WHAT i,

520
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,200
Mean they're like AND i can never. Tell and the

521
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,480
REASON i bring this up is there was a headline

522
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:35,039
WHERE i read that a lady had a headlight.

523
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: Out they pull her. Over she had like expired license or.

524
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: Something so now they search the car and they find

525
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:45,160
like a ton of meth and a ton of cocaine

526
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,640
and other, Stuff AND i, go you never know who

527
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,359
you're on the road. With you could be on the

528
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,440
road with the family and that's going To, Wagmans and

529
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,240
you could be on the road with someone who's delivered

530
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:57,920
meth in cocaine, somewhere.

531
00:25:57,559 --> 00:25:58,799
Speaker 3: And you are on the road with those.

532
00:25:58,799 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: People you just.

533
00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: KNOW i remember h at like five o'clock because, we

534
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,240
since we worked odd, hours never really were on the

535
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,640
road when there was real, traffic right.

536
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: Right you missed Those.

537
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: When alex did the traffic reports for, us she, goes

538
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,039
there's no traffic on the road, today and you And

539
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,799
tommy opened.

540
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Up wait a, Minute wait a, minute there's always.

541
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 5: Traffic as long as there's a car, somewhere there's traffic.

542
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,559
Speaker 1: The. Top, george hear. This it's we were.

543
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: Awful we were.

544
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: Awful what she meant was no traffic, delays but she

545
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,720
didn't say no.

546
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Traffic no, traffic cars are off the.

547
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: Road i'm going, listening this is your turn to try

548
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,799
to turn four nine into the autobod because nobody is.

549
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: Around, well NOW i have done that on the uh

550
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,759
you know Loop.

551
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: No uh what is it called out toward The Ontario State?

552
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,079
Parkway is That is that The Ontario state Park way

553
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,279
out by the. Lake, YES i went out there in

554
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:09,640
a Guy's, portia but it was, manual, okay AND i

555
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:12,519
was just fucking flying and THEN i needed to come

556
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:13,039
down real.

557
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 5: Quick AND i gotta be careful out. There there's a

558
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,559
lot of swamp land you might end up in The.

559
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,559
Speaker 3: No, no, no, NO i was.

560
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: Fine he just said opening, up so you don't have

561
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,079
to tell me, twice wasn't.

562
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: It Billy moran who once, said you're not as good

563
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,279
as you think you are all the.

564
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: TIME i said that all the, time and my sons

565
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,240
remind me. THAT i say to them, often.

566
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: Do you know as good as you think your?

567
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: Dad not as good AS i once.

568
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Was BUT i always think like human beings are operating

569
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,160
with with like secret.

570
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,599
Speaker 1: Lives oh, YEAH.

571
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: I Mean i'm. Not maybe MAYBE i shouldn't say. Secrets

572
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,880
that's not that's, like are you the person.

573
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: You are at home when you're out in? Public?

574
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, well think about the basest form of yourself at.

575
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: Home are you that person in? Public of?

576
00:27:57,519 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: Course not, no But i'll change. It hidden, lives hidden

577
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,319
lives a thing parts of ourselves that we.

578
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,599
Speaker 5: Hide, yeah you don't see me scratching my belly button

579
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,519
in public, often But i'll do it at.

580
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:10,599
Speaker 1: Home what's?

581
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,279
Speaker 2: That but how normal someone looks versus what they're carrying

582
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,599
could be completely surprising and.

583
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: Shocking AND i will.

584
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: Tell you the Moment, simpson, right perfect, example perfect.

585
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 5: Example he ain't kidding he ran for two thousand yards

586
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,839
in nineteen seventy.

587
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: Three is a buffalo. Bill he didn't killed.

588
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: NOBODY i just saw a comic On TikToker. SOMEWHERE i

589
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,920
WISH i got this guy's. Name and he, goes you, know,

590
00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:47,599
ABORTION i MEAN i could see the argument against, it

591
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:50,920
AND i can see the argument for. It he, goes

592
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,359
let me give you an. Example young woman has a,

593
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,799
baby decides to have the. Baby NOW i put it

594
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,200
up for. Adoption but it's like the nineteen, forties it's

595
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,960
the late nineteen, forties.

596
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:08,839
Speaker 1: And you, know she. Does this baby gets was, born

597
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:09,680
and he.

598
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: Gets has grown, up and it becomes like an amazing,

599
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:16,359
athlete and it sets all kinds of. Records he goes

600
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,079
to THE nfl and it's all kinds of, records and

601
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:23,519
then afterwards becomes very popular as a. Sportscaster it gets onto,

602
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,519
movies it gets onto all that, stuff and you're, going,

603
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,920
yeah this is why you shouldn't have. Abortion but that.

604
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: Person turned out to be Oh Ja, sipson and he

605
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,599
goes and THERE i kinda, go, well we have the,

606
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,839
abortion we won't have any of these, problems you, know

607
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,559
which is, terrible but it's a funny.

608
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: Joke and WHAT i think sometimes is the greatest thing

609
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,359
about comedy is that you can show our flawed, selves

610
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,119
or even our flawed thinking if you do it, WELL i,

611
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,240
mean or taking two things that just wouldn't be.

612
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: Together and.

613
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: You just gotta you, know join them together in some.

614
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: WAY i just think that sometimes comedy could be the

615
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,799
greatest teacher of, things or even the greatest lesson in

616
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:17,680
our Own, GOD i think that. WAY i should probably

617
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,119
nik get buy of that, way you, Know but that was,

618
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,680
Funny like you, know, No i'm really, glad really. Good

619
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:29,200
i'll turn you know WHAT i? Mean and so, RIGHT i, mean,

620
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,440
look how rare is? That It's it's a very very

621
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:36,200
very very rare. Thing here's the REASON i asked this.

622
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:39,880
Question this lady gets, popped, Right, okay big, deal not

623
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,640
the first, time not going to be the last. Time,

624
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200
well WHAT i wonder, is and you brought this up

625
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:46,400
with like the golp ones and what did you say

626
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,240
about golp ones and the pharmaceutical Company.

627
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: They want to keep you hooked for?

628
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: Life, Okay SO I i look at AND i better

629
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,799
living through chemistry right.

630
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: Now sometimes it's a tool if you are.

631
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: Require The arry, bonds, bonds ask for forgiveness, later.

632
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,359
Speaker 3: Very.

633
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: Bonds it's, joke, Right but.

634
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:17,279
Speaker 3: Okay so.

635
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,839
Speaker 1: If these and some of, Them i'll, say your.

636
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:24,119
Speaker 2: Tools let's say you're somebody, who's, uh you got a bad,

637
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,200
temper quick, temper and it hasn't served you well for a.

638
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,000
While don't look at me like, that and.

639
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,799
Speaker 1: Don't look at me like.

640
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: That and let's say they put you on a low

641
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:42,720
dose OF ssr one or what do they call, them, yes, Inhibitors,

642
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400
okay s SR s that s s all, right thank, You.

643
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: And since you're taking the master's, Classes i'm telling, you,

644
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,079
Well i'll just put on the stuff SO i.

645
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:52,839
Speaker 1: Know, okay, okay.

646
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Okay did it? Help?

647
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: Yes and it gives you a little bit of a

648
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,480
cushion to actually absorb something before you react to.

649
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,279
Speaker 3: It, yes which is always, better.

650
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: Not for temper but for other. Stuff, yes, okay for.

651
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:05,799
Speaker 2: Whatever But i'm saying for someone who's got a quick,

652
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,440
temper that could be, it and that's better living through.

653
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200
Chemistry that's. GREAT i don't even call it. THAT i

654
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:11,960
would say that's.

655
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: A tool to help you be the best you could. Be,

656
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:15,839
yes nothing wrong with.

657
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: That but then there's some of these other things where

658
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,799
like it's pain medication and he probably really needed, it

659
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:23,799
and maybe you get a digger to do, it BUT i,

660
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,200
go but you're getting behind the wheel of the fucking

661
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200
car and sharing the road with. Me and WHAT i

662
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,599
started to say earlier was when you AND i not

663
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:32,680
on the roads at the time of traffic and you

664
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:37,680
brought Up. ALEX i remember being, like not far from

665
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,599
where we're sitting right, now at a traffic, light just

666
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,319
around five, o'clock AND i looked to my right and

667
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:48,960
there is a guy drinking a beer plain this. Day

668
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,359
he probably was more sober than anybody leaving a. Bar

669
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:56,839
and by the, way a lot of people, go if

670
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:59,880
you have that third, drink leave immediately because it's gonna

671
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,559
take a while to get in your, system and if

672
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:03,599
you get pulled, over you'll probably blow under and you

673
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,920
can keep going home and. Recover but this guy. Was

674
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,759
it's illegal to drink and, drive and he. Was he

675
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,079
was drinking a beer in plain. SIDE i remember looking

676
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,880
at LIKE i had to do a double take. Him

677
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,680
it was he was behind, Me it was in my rearview.

678
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,279
MIRROR i, went what the fun AND i had to

679
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:21,039
see it WAS i think it was A mults AND

680
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,960
i was, like holy, shit holy, shit, right.

681
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 5: And you, go, OH i Think i've seen, ACTUALLY i

682
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,559
Think i've actually seen people driving on the way to the,

683
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:34,799
podcast like those big forty ouncers in the. Car, WELL

684
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:36,519
i Think i've told you about, it like the first

685
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,680
year we were doing the. Podcast, yeah five six o'clock

686
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,640
in the. Afternoon, yeah guy's drinking.

687
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: One of those pounder. Cans, YEAH i don't. Care, yeah driving.

688
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Amaze and by the, way it Wasn't. Kevin it's it's probably.

689
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,839
Speaker 2: No worse than drinking a diet coke in terms of.

690
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,519
Distractability AND i would assume that's the first. One so

691
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:56,720
they're not, drunk, right so THEY i, mean you would

692
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,799
get it for open container and you probably that would

693
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:01,680
just you surp, everything.

694
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:03,759
Speaker 3: Even whatever YOUR bac. IS i don't, know unless you

695
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:05,839
have a really good, attorney we could probably argue.

696
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: THAT i have no, Idea BUT i do wonder with

697
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,159
like all the pharmaceutical, companies is you justually want to

698
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,760
get you hooked on something so now you need it

699
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,079
whatever it, is or like.

700
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 3: It you know you're we don't.

701
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: Know people doc, SHOP i need, THIS i need, this

702
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,119
AND i need, this and they and the two doctors

703
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,559
or three doctors, whatever don't know anybody.

704
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: Else by the, way you could like they could mail

705
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,000
it to you now, Too go To, Roman, yeah get.

706
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: Go to.

707
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Hymns do you have a history? Depression, yes you might

708
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,400
want to try, This, okay sign me.

709
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: Up, Great, yeah that's how it, works, Right and it

710
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:43,639
might BE i don't, know maybe it's. OKAY i have no.

711
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,639
Idea i'm Not i'm not. Trying i'm just, saying, LIKE

712
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,280
i just. Wonder WHEN i look, AROUND i, go you

713
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:49,960
got a phone in?

714
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: There m.

715
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: H and he also could be on. SOMETHING i THINK

716
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,760
i just want to get. Home, yes you, KNOW i,

717
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,159
MEAN i just. Please it's like fucked. Up it's fucked.

718
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,639
Speaker 5: Up and that happens more than you think or more

719
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:04,320
than you want to. Believe and by the grace Of,

720
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,440
god they're staying between the lines usually.

721
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 2: Yes, right or a lot of times right, exactly and

722
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,039
that that was all or you know people now with.

723
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: Weed some some.

724
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: People just oh, dude that is taking a little gummy

725
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,280
and you know they're doing thirty five and.

726
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 5: Well megan McCain came out, Yesterday john McCain's, daughter and

727
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,679
she used to be on the view of, course and

728
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,599
she says she she regrets pushing for the legalization of

729
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:33,880
marijuana because of that very. Reason really that, like now

730
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,239
we have created a generation of. Zombies but we can't

731
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,400
tell if that because, like you could smell alcohol at

732
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,039
somebody you've been.

733
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 3: Drinking, oh you can smell.

734
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: Weed, wow you'll smell. Weed you, can't, like, oh, god,

735
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:46,320
gummy you.

736
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,559
Speaker 3: Can't.

737
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:49,159
Speaker 1: DUDE i went To wegmans the other. Day i'm standing

738
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:49,400
in the.

739
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 5: CHECKOUT i like the like the five items are, less and.

740
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,639
Speaker 1: DUDE i could smell the. Weed, okay did you? People did?

741
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: You now here's the. Thing, now you got to turn

742
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,320
that into a. Game you gotta before you find the,

743
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,119
person you gotta guess what they're.

744
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:07,639
Speaker 3: Buying, oh that'll be. Right if you smell the weed and.

745
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: You're at a grocery, store you gotta guess what's in

746
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,440
that person's.

747
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: Cart you gotta.

748
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Look it's gotta be, like you, Know, dorito's and it's

749
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,199
gotta be some kind of, pizza pizza, logs anything.

750
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,079
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778
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:47,039
guy who was a football coach in the small TOWN

779
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:55,079
i believe in The, south and he was accused OF

780
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,039
i don't know that he ever had physical, contact But

781
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:04,639
i'm pretty sure he sent text of his junk to

782
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,559
a sixteen.

783
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: Year old at the school.

784
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,599
Speaker 2: And it was being talked about around the library table

785
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:17,719
and somebody overheard, it and SO i don't know how

786
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,039
if they got a hold of. IT i don't know

787
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:23,440
if there was proof of. This so, yeah the headline is.

788
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:27,840
Missing excuse, me it Was virginia The. South Missing virginia

789
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,840
football Coach Travis turner allegedly sexted explicit photos to a.

790
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,559
Speaker 3: Sixteen year old.

791
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: Girl he's forty, six, married father of, three and allegedly

792
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,199
sent the DISTURBING x rated messages over a three month.

793
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,920
Stretch he was the head coach at a high. School

794
00:38:55,199 --> 00:39:00,119
first came the accusation and then police became. Involved, Okay

795
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:07,199
he's been missing Since november of twenty twenty five. Missing,

796
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:11,719
okay last scene walking into the woods with a.

797
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,079
Speaker 1: Gun you think he became the.

798
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 5: Sasquatchphone, okay that's why he went to a gorilla costume

799
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,360
and started playing the.

800
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,159
Speaker 1: Sacks, nope, okay, nope you think he probably alive to.

801
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,760
Himself that's What i'm. Thinking that's What i'm. Thinking that

802
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,320
makes the most.

803
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,679
Speaker 2: Sense but hang, On, however according to this article that

804
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,639
the day he did, that the police were on their

805
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:40,440
way to his.

806
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:42,639
Speaker 3: HOUSE i believe to arrest.

807
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: Them, Okay i'm pretty sure that the WAY i read the,

808
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,199
article it said that. Disappeared, okay the forty six man

809
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,000
father have vanished late late last year as they were

810
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:01,639
on the way to grill him over child porn and exploitation.

811
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,920
Accusations that so they were Allegedly that makes it sound

812
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,760
like he knew they were, coming and they were on

813
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,000
their way now and he just went into the. Woods

814
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,519
how would he know they were? Coming they usually don't

815
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:20,960
call for an. Invite, yeah somebody tip them off. Inside

816
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:28,840
so here's here's my. Question if you are in this,

817
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,400
situation AND i would never endorse on a live in,

818
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,360
YOURSELF i would, think, well let, ME i GUESS i

819
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,360
just did by, saying if you're at the very, end

820
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,320
but if you're an able, bodied a forty something year

821
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,480
old father of three kids who's the esteemed high school football, COACH.

822
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,599
Speaker 3: I wouldn't encourage you to go on alive.

823
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: Yourself, however this is an accusation that could absolutely have

824
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:58,840
you lose everything in your. Life and WHEN i say,

825
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,480
EVERYTHING i mean your kids may never.

826
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: Talk to you. Again, right there's a.

827
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: Chance, yeah definitely your, Wife you're gonna wind up going

828
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,599
through a. Divorce everybody's gonna find out about it because

829
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,760
it's a small. Town your, parents everybody's, there and you're

830
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,000
just in that, moment the police are on their way

831
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,840
and you go into the, woods And i'm.

832
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: Thinking like you, said he was tipped.

833
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,119
Speaker 2: Off but it wouldn't surprise me if there was somebody

834
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,400
who just really liked this, guy another like a police.

835
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Officer that's a small. Town one of the police officers

836
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,480
may have been someone who grew up with.

837
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: Him oh it could, be or it could also be

838
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,599
somebody on his coaching staff call him up and, go, hey,

839
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:35,519
MAN i just want to let you know they're on the.

840
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,480
Way and what if he said to this guy because he.

841
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,719
Vanished it's impossible to. Vanish how far could he have? Gone,

842
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:46,440
well it's impossible to just. Vanish, YEAH i mean it'd

843
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,079
be nice if this guy, was you, know down trying

844
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:50,719
to get some sixteen year old tail In brazil or.

845
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: Something right, now well look at.

846
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,559
Speaker 2: That but, NO i don't think that it was last

847
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,599
seeing with the, gun and no one.

848
00:41:57,639 --> 00:42:00,119
Speaker 3: Knows So i'm wondering.

849
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: If he said to the police, Officer, hey, Listen i'm

850
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,280
going up to the tree stand in the, woods he,

851
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,440
goes And i'm gonna unlive. Myself they're gonna be looking

852
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,800
on the. Ground they're not gonna find. Me come get my,

853
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Body come get. Me EVENTUALLY i would find. Me they

854
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,519
haven't so unless it was so. Cold but It's. Virginia

855
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,480
they haven't had you know WHAT i? Mean, right so

856
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,719
you come get me and just just get rid of.

857
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,559
Speaker 3: Me just get rid of. ME i want to.

858
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: Disappear i'm leaving the. Planet would you do? It?

859
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,599
Speaker 3: No see NOW i THINK i.

860
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: MIGHT i might.

861
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,639
Speaker 2: Go, YEAH i get, IT i get. It this is

862
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:48,320
a tough one to deal. With you would lose. Everything

863
00:42:48,639 --> 00:42:49,079
it would be.

864
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 5: Hard lose, Everything, dan you be the odds are you

865
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Would but it's not one hundred you need.

866
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Your name smeared to the. Mud your kid's getting teased

867
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,360
at school all this.

868
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,559
Speaker 5: Ship it's not like they're not going to if you're, Gone, well,

869
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:04,719
no you might get a little.

870
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Sympathy you might GET i, know your dad, Disappeared LIKE

871
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:10,760
i know this, stuff BUT i don't believe it.

872
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: Happened you know What i'm.

873
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah, okay if there's a trial and there's, proof

874
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,239
all of a, sudden it's kind of puts a whole.

875
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: Thing.

876
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,599
Speaker 2: Now the bad part is that allegedly the parents of the,

877
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:26,239
girl the family are saying this was going on and the.

878
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,679
Speaker 1: School pushed it off so they could get through the.

879
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: Playoffs that's that's that's Totally, yeah that makes total sense

880
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,199
That Southern.

881
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: School, yes, YES i think they got to put this

882
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:42,360
off until we. Lose they said something, like, WELL i, mean,

883
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,239
dude that's what happened At. Michigan, YES I Withroona. Moore,

884
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,239
yeah can just get through the.

885
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,079
Speaker 5: Season, yeah because as soon as they lost To Ohio,

886
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:55,840
state all of a, sudden Prominent michigan alumni in media

887
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,400
we're getting, Texts oh, yeah this is this is going

888
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:58,719
to get.

889
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,039
Speaker 1: Ugly, yeah they're, like what are you talking?

890
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,559
Speaker 2: About, Now, look there are people that are are called.

891
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:06,159
Speaker 3: Maps do you know what a map?

892
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 4: Is?

893
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah you?

894
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: Do what is?

895
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,639
Speaker 1: It they're called minor attracted.

896
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: Persons right, NOW i have, Said i'm not sure that

897
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:19,760
this guy was a minor attracted. Person and and just

898
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,880
on the. DEFENSE a lot of times it doesn't say

899
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,760
he worked at the, school doesn't say. That but many

900
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,000
times it's like a teacher who also picks up some.

901
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:32,559
COACHING a lot of times in, football it's the gym, guy,

902
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,639
right the gym. Teacher, NOW i remember a high school

903
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:39,280
gym teacher saying to, me AND i was an, adult that.

904
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,639
Speaker 3: He's, like you gotta be really.

905
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: Careful he, goes because like if you're sitting at the

906
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:47,159
edge of the bleachers and you, know you're just checking

907
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:49,360
off the attendance while the kids go through a stretching,

908
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960
container some of the girls will come over and he,

909
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,960
goes they actually like put their breast like on your

910
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,840
on your, shoulder on your shoulder and press in and he,

911
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,960
Goes you've got to be really, careful but you can

912
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,239
and see where some guys.

913
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: We're, like, good damn, baby you're.

914
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,599
Speaker 3: Good you know WHAT i?

915
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Mean that's it's. Terrible it's.

916
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:07,679
Speaker 3: TERRIBLE i.

917
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,559
Speaker 1: Know i'm not trying to endorse. This i'm just saying.

918
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: That he even, said you got to like really mind

919
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,039
your p's and q's and go back.

920
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:15,079
Speaker 3: Up you have to back.

921
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: Up but he's, like you never want to like put

922
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,039
yourself in a situation where you were almost brought into

923
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,360
something where you accidentally brushed, against or.

924
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 5: Reduce the risk class all those things you have to

925
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,360
teach you about personal, space crazy, stuff, Right so never

926
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,880
be alone with the kid so they never give them

927
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,239
a ride.

928
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,559
Speaker 2: Home my point in saying this is he may not

929
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:41,840
have been a minor attracted. PERSON a lot of times

930
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,159
minor attracted people are are attracted to there there was.

931
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,079
Speaker 1: Allegedly WHAT i, mean like a. Pedophile well that's me

932
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:53,239
you have to.

933
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,039
Speaker 3: Be you can be a minor attracted person and never

934
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:57,519
act on.

935
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: It, OKAY i see. You so that wouldn't be a.

936
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,280
PEDOPHILE i, See that's All i'm. Saying Ok, WELL i.

937
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:04,599
Speaker 2: Guarantee that you AND i know people we don't know,

938
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,920
it but they're minor attracted.

939
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,519
Speaker 1: Persons, weird but they've never done.

940
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:14,199
Speaker 3: Yet they we wouldn't won't do. It, yeah right, now there.

941
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: Are there was a thing called THE, nambla The National

942
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,639
association Of Man Boy.

943
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: Love.

944
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 5: YEAH i thought that was, fake But South park did

945
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,639
an episode about.

946
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:26,559
Speaker 1: That oh, no it was.

947
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Real, YEAH i, KNOW i, know, Yeah and they're, saying

948
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,639
was this is? Disgusting SHOULD i say sex before eight

949
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,440
before it's too? Late and they don't mean the, time, Right,

950
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,639
Okay so that was that was their. Thing AND i

951
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,280
remember my dad when he was working with the, center

952
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:51,079
he was, yeah, yes but it was not the national

953
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,960
one but, okay. Uh and their purpose was to work

954
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,480
with the family and the kids that were left.

955
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:58,599
Speaker 3: Behind his friend was a therapist or a social, worker

956
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,719
un licensed social worker.

957
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: Anymore it to work.

958
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:02,679
Speaker 2: With the kids and the family that was left me

959
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,840
home because all mom and dad's attention go on the

960
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,159
missing child and what happens in the, home and then

961
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,239
what happens when the kid comes. Back and it Was

962
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,000
Stephen stainer who at, fifteen When Timothy white was abducted

963
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:20,400
by the same guy And stephen was no longer the,

964
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,880
Interest stephen turned them. In he had seen himself on

965
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,880
milk cartons and, everything but the guy brainwashed him and

966
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:31,800
bought theom gifts and treated him. Well other THAN i don't,

967
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,679
Know friday night date. NIGHT i don't know what it was,

968
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,320
called but you understand What i'm, saying, right not to

969
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,159
make light of. That but so Then stephen comes home

970
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,079
and it's like the family only remembers the seven or

971
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:42,960
eight year old boy that, left so they started treating

972
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,599
him like, that and it was a really difficult thing for.

973
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:47,599
Them and THEN i know they were trying to study

974
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:49,440
for a while And stephen wound up being killed in

975
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,159
a motorcycle.

976
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: Accident SO i don't that kind OF i can't study that.

977
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:58,199
Speaker 2: Now but the minor attractive person stuff IS i have,

978
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:03,199
said where if if we go with the argument that

979
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,880
you are born this, way whatever, way that is, right

980
00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:12,559
If i'm somebody who's attracted to the same, sex, right

981
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:13,840
many times.

982
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: There are certain.

983
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,039
Speaker 2: Religions and things that have, said how bad that is,

984
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,880
right how wrong that is my, grandmother my grandmother Was.

985
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,039
Catholic they did do, That, okay so and she was

986
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:28,599
very very vocal about all this.

987
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: Stuff, now let's say you're.

988
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: A minor attractive, person but you're born that, way if

989
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,679
you're born to be attracted to the same sex or,

990
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:40,719
whatever and you kind of can't control that it's just

991
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:41,639
innate in.

992
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 3: You could The maps thing be innate in?

993
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: You but it's just so bad in society you would

994
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,039
fucking ruin someone like you know What i'm.

995
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: Saying so here's.

996
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,679
Speaker 1: Me i'm.

997
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: NOT i don't find this. FUNNY i have suggested this many.

998
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:03,800
Times we now have a and we HAVE ai robots and.

999
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,199
Things what if we gave the maps.

1000
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:14,199
Speaker 1: An eight year old version that looks like an Eight oh, Jeez.

1001
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm, Asking AND i know this sounds, funny But i'm

1002
00:49:18,519 --> 00:49:23,679
asking from a very ethical. Standpoint maybe they're brilliant contributors

1003
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:28,800
to society, taxpayers are you? Straight neighbors keep their nons,

1004
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:33,199
immaculate so, wonderful and oh my, god have you had

1005
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,480
their upside down pineapple cake At christmas? Time?

1006
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,679
Speaker 3: Phenomenal i'm just, saying.

1007
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:43,039
Speaker 1: Never want to give a? Map, yes a? Robot, yes

1008
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:43,639
an eight year old?

1009
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,199
Speaker 2: Robot you got your don't, know not an eight year

1010
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,199
old robot looks like an eight year old?

1011
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: Human, well that's, well that will be a. Robot, yeah it's.

1012
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: Not a real, person, right it's a. Robot But i'm

1013
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,679
not saying you said eight year old.

1014
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: ROBOT i not the.

1015
00:49:57,039 --> 00:49:59,119
Speaker 5: ROBOT i don't believe that would, work BECAUSE i believe

1016
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:01,039
that they, get, like like anything, else they would get

1017
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:01,639
sick of that.

1018
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:02,559
Speaker 1: And then go for the real.

1019
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 5: THING i just, wondering remember our first conversation about about

1020
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,559
addictions and stuff like that, earlier that you can't, like

1021
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:10,840
like his alcohol is really a.

1022
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,199
Speaker 1: Disease that's really a, Disease, billy or is it a? Perversion?

1023
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,880
Yeah well they were born that. Way well then you

1024
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,000
got to be born. Again AND i know people to

1025
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:21,039
want to hear, that but.

1026
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,519
Speaker 3: Hey i'm just. SAYING i, mean that was.

1027
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: It that was.

1028
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:27,119
Speaker 3: All that was. All that was just my. Thought i've

1029
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:28,400
had that thought for a while BECAUSE i, go.

1030
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: Here's the.

1031
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,159
Speaker 1: THING i understand the logic behind. That thank.

1032
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: YOU i thought so.

1033
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,559
Speaker 5: Too people on paper understand the logic behind. Communism but

1034
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,000
it's a terrible idea and it's been.

1035
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 3: TESTED i don't think this is a terrible.

1036
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: IDEA i think this is an idea, that.

1037
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,639
Speaker 2: With the world we live in, today might actually be

1038
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:47,440
beneficial in some.

1039
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: FASHION i don't.

1040
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,119
Speaker 5: Know it's, like, hey let's give a heroin addict some

1041
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:53,800
heroin because a clean. Needle, yeah because you, KNOW.

1042
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: I didn't say. THAT i know what you're.

1043
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,079
Speaker 3: DOING i know what you're, saying like apples to, apples

1044
00:50:58,679 --> 00:50:59,320
or or.

1045
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: If you get a rested as a, map do we

1046
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,760
just have a prison before we?

1047
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 2: Go, hey you want to have some fun? Today what

1048
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,440
are you doing two? O'clock meet me over at the

1049
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,719
so so. Prison weren't gonna let lose a.

1050
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: Bunch of eight year old robots and see what? Happened?

1051
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,559
Oh What i'm just, saying like in, theory in, theory just. Theory,

1052
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:21,000
damn that's ALL i.

1053
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 3: Mean it's like.

1054
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 2: This IF i see a guy walking into the woods

1055
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,039
by himself with a, Gun i'm not thinking he's going to, meditate.

1056
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Or he could be.

1057
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:35,639
Speaker 2: Hunting, yep, yep certainly not a meditation. Retreat but this,

1058
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:40,480
GUY i was just, wondering because shame is a brutal.

1059
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:46,320
Emotion it, is and this, guy you would deny or

1060
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,960
whatever or, deflect but at some point the truth catches

1061
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:52,239
up with.

1062
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,559
Speaker 1: You and.

1063
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: The worst part to me in all of this is

1064
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,559
his kids are left without the proverbial. Closure i'm not

1065
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:01,440
sure if you really want.

1066
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,639
Speaker 2: It he would always want to be, remembered AND i

1067
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:06,880
think that was kind of maybe if this guy did off,

1068
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,960
himself that it was the.

1069
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: Driving thought behind. HIM i don't want my kids to

1070
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,079
go through.

1071
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 5: THAT i remember WHEN Oj simpson was driving down the

1072
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,440
four h five with al colleagues Or Al collins was driving,

1073
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:20,519
him and he was riding and my father said.

1074
00:52:20,519 --> 00:52:21,559
Speaker 1: This he, goes this sounds.

1075
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 5: Awful i'm fourteen years old WATCHING oj, right and he

1076
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,480
got THE Nba finals in the small, box and my father.

1077
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: Goes it might be better off if he just did

1078
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,519
away with. Himself, YEAH i, mean can you write to

1079
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:35,079
understand the?

1080
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 5: Logic it sounds on paper like it makes. Sense, Yes BUT.

1081
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Oj got free and didn't see that. COMING i wonder

1082
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:48,320
what life would have been like had he done. THAT i.

1083
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 5: WONDER i, mean, clearly we wouldn't have never had the.

1084
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Trial we would have never have had all the backlash

1085
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:55,400
that went with the, trial.

1086
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: RIGHT i mean.

1087
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: Nothing then what happens to the family of The oldberg

1088
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,239
family in The Browns oldberg was THE tv show forgive,

1089
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,679
me but The goldman family, right who just by like

1090
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:08,199
was not.

1091
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: Targeted she was.

1092
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: Targeted he happened to be just, there you, know for

1093
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,280
whatever the thing. WAS i don't even think LIKE i

1094
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,400
think it was alleged they were having an. AFFAIR i

1095
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:20,239
don't think there was any of. THAT i think he

1096
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,639
was just knew her had become friendly in some way

1097
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:26,440
and was bringing back sunglasses that she had.

1098
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: Left maybe maybe THEN i say it out, Loud.

1099
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 5: MAYBE i don't think. SO i think there was something

1100
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,360
going on. There BUT i mean because he was, very

1101
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:36,239
he was. Very somebody said they were the most non

1102
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,840
divorced divorced couple you'd ever.

1103
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: Meet you know, what a lot of people will say

1104
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:45,079
the difference between sinners and saints is, behavior AND i

1105
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:49,480
think that the difference between sinners and saints in real

1106
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,000
life is one of the truth catches.

1107
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 5: Up then we get to see who's what you, know

1108
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,800
and then we find out we're all, sinners not, Me

1109
00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,840
yeah we.

1110
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,119
Speaker 1: Are the real difference is when the truth catches up to.

1111
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:03,599
You that's.

1112
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:07,079
Speaker 2: All, Oh danny's always.

1113
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,519
Speaker 1: Fun and good to see. It, yeah you, too stay,

1114
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:12,760
strung stay focused and like ours, There.

1115
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 3: BILLY i like our nuanced. Conversation, YES i enjoy.

1116
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: That next week we talk about, well you know, what

1117
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:21,599
maybe that's the first one we do next.

1118
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 3: WEEK i can we could do that.

1119
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,079
Speaker 1: Or make up part of. Dead we need to proud

1120
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:27,559
up the meat a.

1121
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:31,599
Speaker 2: Little, oh For Dan, Brilla Bill, Moran we'll see you next.

1122
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:33,079
Speaker 3: Time california bait and.

1123
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:36,119
Speaker 1: Things that God worth is a land up opportunity for

1124
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:36,760
me is just

1125
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:43,519
Speaker 5: A curse now that judging make us feel the w