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Speaker 5: Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It's
Speaker 5: time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast.
Speaker 5: I'm your host, as always, George Hobbs, as we record
Speaker 5: on this April ninth, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody is
Speaker 5: having a great day. I believe this is coming out
Speaker 5: Easter weekend. Hope everybody had a fantastic weekend. And remember,
Speaker 5: as they say, the reason for the season. We have
Speaker 5: a great guest standing by before we bring him on.
Speaker 5: Two quick notes. Number one, feel free to stop by
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Speaker 5: heads up. One of the announcements that we will be
Speaker 5: making is kind of a change. We're going to be
Speaker 5: consolidating the two websites, the fact Hunter and the flat
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Speaker 5: way behind the flat Earth Files website, will send them
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Speaker 6: More on that later.
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Speaker 5: And if for any reason we've had correspondence before and
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Speaker 5: myself and Luke maybe we had a conversation at one
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Speaker 5: are times when I read an email and I forget
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Speaker 5: you schedule. So there we go. I think that's all
Speaker 5: the housekeeping for today. Let's get to our guest this morning,
Speaker 5: and his name is Luke. Luke, Good morning, sir, how
Speaker 5: are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing OK today? Just uh was sitting there listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast as I was driving. I got a
Speaker 1: wild hair and said, you know what, I want to
Speaker 1: be one of these people.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad to be your guest today. So you
Speaker 1: would say I'm in a happy mood. Yeah. So we
Speaker 1: we did have a precursor. We were talking about a
Speaker 1: little bit about this return trip that really solidifies, you know,
Speaker 1: it really solidifies how I feel about everything. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand. Do they get do they get overtime? What
Speaker 1: do you think, George?
Speaker 6: Possibly?
Speaker 1: So? Uh, I know that we usually start with where
Speaker 1: we where we're from and stuff from Uh.
Speaker 7: I'm from Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Louisville. It's it's a wacky city. And I was telling
Speaker 1: Georgia I was outside riding around in the car with
Speaker 1: my parents yesterday and the sun in the moon was
Speaker 1: out and my dad, who he doesn't subscribe to my beliefs,
Speaker 1: he was fascinated by it, and I told him to
Speaker 1: explain it and he couldn't. So I just wanted to
Speaker 1: touch upon that again and a big, big thing that
Speaker 1: helps me remember why it's out. At the same time
Speaker 1: as far as I know, would be that Genesis work
Speaker 1: for word is the truth. Would you be inclined to
Speaker 1: agree with me, yes, sir, Yeah. So he said that
Speaker 1: he created a greater light to rule the day and
Speaker 1: a lesser light to rule the night. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how you would land on a light I know,
Speaker 1: like the same size and stuff.
Speaker 5: And that's the question that I've been researching a lot,
Speaker 5: and I might do a standalone podcast here in the
Speaker 5: near future. As far as when did they hijack the
Speaker 5: Word of God and turn it into science and how
Speaker 5: willing people were because for a long time, going back
Speaker 5: to Copernicus and Martin Luther, people thought he was a heretic.
Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden, it's even in the
Speaker 5: church people say, yeah, the Bible says this, But it
Speaker 5: was back then they weren't really super smart people this, that,
Speaker 5: and the other thing. And as if you think about it,
Speaker 5: as time goes on, it's been that much further away
Speaker 5: since these type of events have happened, and it's really
Speaker 5: you know, I don't want to get back into this
Speaker 5: discussion per se, but even within many of the churches
Speaker 5: who push the scientism narrative, it's a little. I guess
Speaker 5: disappointing is the proper word to use. I did want
Speaker 5: to ask you a question though, before we get started.
Speaker 5: You're from Louisville, so I've only been through Louisville once.
Speaker 5: I've been through in Memphis.
Speaker 1: You've been, and you've been some places because the military
Speaker 1: stuff I know about. George.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been all over the country. There's only two
Speaker 5: me about it. Two states. I haven't been to Alaska
Speaker 5: and North Dakota. So my question is for you. I've
Speaker 5: heard many people say that both Memphis and Louisville used
Speaker 5: to be until about the seventies or early eighties, kind
Speaker 5: of salt of the Earth type people. They used to
Speaker 5: call it the Bible Belt, which they still do today.
Speaker 5: But I'm not really sure if that it is as
Speaker 5: much as it used to be. Maybe it is, but
Speaker 5: many people have messaged me and said from both Louisville
Speaker 5: and Memphis that said that over the last twenty or
Speaker 5: thirty years, the city has kind of, I guess spiritually disintegrated.
Speaker 6: Is that something that you've noticed.
Speaker 1: That's a complicated question. So I'm going to throw this
Speaker 1: out there. This place has a high concentration of URH
Speaker 1: negative people. I don't know if that means anything to
Speaker 1: any of the viewers. So I run into a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are very spiritual. But being RH negative
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to be connecting to
Speaker 1: God right and me and I mean the big G
Speaker 1: because there's plenty of gods, and what's God backwards? So
Speaker 1: there's plenty of dogs, there's plenty of demons, and there's
Speaker 1: plenty of things that pull people here. I know that
Speaker 1: I just said a lot of loaded things, but I
Speaker 1: will say I'll just get back to reality, to what's
Speaker 1: easily understood this place. You know, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of Trump supporters. We've got a lot of people who
Speaker 1: bang their Bibles. We've got a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: who are to their country, you know, like stuck to
Speaker 1: their roots type of way.
Speaker 7: But then we have the pockets of like the Highlands.
Speaker 1: We have people who are supporting our our democratic governor,
Speaker 1: you know who are I'm sure they're really cool with
Speaker 1: transgenderism and progression of that regard like that section of life.
Speaker 1: So did it disintegrate for the most part, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say that the people who have the old values
Speaker 1: are passing away. They're getting older, their opinion doesn't matter
Speaker 1: as much. And then the few and far between people
Speaker 1: that I know that seek the truth, they're not you know,
Speaker 1: they're few and far between. I have one coworker who
Speaker 1: we've gotten pretty cool, and he also I showed him
Speaker 1: a picture of the ancient Hebrew cosmology and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I already knew that, and that's really hard to run
Speaker 1: into people like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, those are far and few between.
Speaker 7: So yeah, did it disintegrate?
Speaker 1: Would say? I would say yes. I would say that
Speaker 1: Louisville specifically probably is against Kentucky's stance on abortion. But
Speaker 1: does that make sense? It's like Louisville, but then there
Speaker 1: you got all the surrounding cities. Here it's still it's
Speaker 1: still so rural. Like it's still there. They got lifted
Speaker 1: trucks and like they they drank Coors Light and talking
Speaker 1: about they love exactly and like that does crickle into Louisville.
Speaker 7: But like Louisville is trying so.
Speaker 1: Hard to like, like there's people here that don't even
Speaker 1: have an accent. I have one because I grew up everywhere,
Speaker 1: like my parents moved around a lot. I was like
Speaker 1: an army brat who didn't have the perks of like
Speaker 1: my parents being in the military. Like it's because my
Speaker 1: parents were like mentally unstable and like my dad was
Speaker 1: an alcoholic, so we we would get evicted or something
Speaker 1: and we'd have to move again. And like I lived
Speaker 1: in Lichfield, I lived in Clarksville, Indiana, Jeffersonville, Indiana, New Albany, Indiana,
Speaker 1: which is like right across the bridge from Louisville. And
Speaker 1: I also lived in Louisville in many places. So that's
Speaker 1: why I have an accent. There was some years where
Speaker 1: I lived like in the country with my great grandmother,
Speaker 1: Lillian McGarry, and I was wanting to touch on that
Speaker 1: subject too. So growing up with her, she was an
Speaker 1: Eastern Star what scares me, and then my grandfather, her
Speaker 1: husband was a thirty second degree Mason. So and with
Speaker 1: all the research I've done, you know, he even had
Speaker 1: he's even born, he's even buried in the Masonic cemetery.
Speaker 5: Really, you know, that's yeah, that's really interesting because last March,
Speaker 5: I took a road trip to East Palestine, Ohio, where
Speaker 5: you know, the train accident happened, to interview the people
Speaker 5: for the fact on her podcast.
Speaker 7: Really cool. I like that as soon as.
Speaker 5: You enter the city limits, there's two signs, and there's
Speaker 5: four entrances into East Palestine North south. There's two primary
Speaker 5: and then there's two kind of out of the way
Speaker 5: entrances and the two main entrances. As soon as you
Speaker 5: hit the city limits, it's ordered the Eastern Star and
Speaker 5: the Freemasons, and the East Palestine goes back to the
Speaker 5: eighteen fifties, and I think the city was founded in
Speaker 5: like eighteen fifty. And if you look at the Masonic building,
Speaker 5: which is the nicest building in the little town there,
Speaker 5: I think it was opened five or six or seven
Speaker 5: years later, right before the Civil War. So and if
Speaker 5: you look if you actually go to East Palestine, and
Speaker 5: East Palestine is the first town when you cross in
Speaker 5: from Pennsylvania. And if you look where the train accident happened,
Speaker 5: it's no coincidence.
Speaker 1: If you look at the well, I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you're trying to.
Speaker 5: Say, exactly, yeah, yep, yeah, it's not a coo accidents.
Speaker 5: It made it across the border or right becross. I
Speaker 5: forget which way the brain was going. Now, it's no coincidence.
Speaker 1: Well, well, you know, it's just like I was saying,
Speaker 1: it's like the truth that we've found in the listeners.
Speaker 1: It's it's so real that you start to you get
Speaker 1: complacent some days and you start lulling yourself back into like,
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of want to be suspended in
Speaker 1: the matrix again, because there's so.
Speaker 7: Many people that are that way, you know.
Speaker 1: And I was gonna sit there and say, it scares
Speaker 1: me that they were like that, right, that they were
Speaker 1: part of these fraternities. But you know, the thing is
Speaker 1: is that until you're a thirty third degree Mason, or
Speaker 1: you're shaking hands with Albert Pike, I know he's passed away,
Speaker 1: but it's a metaphor how many of these Masons actually
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. So my mom she joined the
Speaker 1: Eastern Star. I've been extended membership. I didn't join, thank god.
Speaker 1: And I'm one of those people where I think after
Speaker 1: I did a ritual, like my mom's told me, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to elaborate on that for the viewers, I
Speaker 1: think that I would have.
Speaker 7: Known what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: But there's people that they can they can do things,
Speaker 1: and they just they still have a wool like a
Speaker 1: veil pulled over their eyes, you know. But basically, my mom.
Speaker 1: She was initiating into the Eastern Stars and she went
Speaker 1: to the first you know, initiation, right, and they pulled
Speaker 1: out a snake dagger and they're saying, do you believe?
Speaker 7: Do you believe?
Speaker 1: You know? And she was like yeah, out of fear,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I believe, you know. And that's basically what
Speaker 1: the initiation right for the female sect of the Freemasons,
Speaker 1: you know. So and they were wearing cloaks. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like very weird, you know. And then like if
Speaker 1: you just do a little bit of research because of
Speaker 1: you know, like everything in life has pros and cons. Well,
Speaker 1: one of the pros of the internet just use your
Speaker 1: fingers and type it in. I mean, you can find
Speaker 1: so much stuff on the Freemasons and the fact that
Speaker 1: they have a noose around their neck and that they
Speaker 1: do this and that in the first, second, third, fourth,
Speaker 1: fifth degrees, you would think that you would start to
Speaker 1: realize that you're not doing something right, especially because in
Speaker 1: the Bible it says that you shouldn't take secret oaths, you.
Speaker 7: Shouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: With my son, he always tries to get me to
Speaker 1: make a promise to him or swear to him, you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel very comfortable doing that. I've been
Speaker 1: trying to teach him that God doesn't like us to
Speaker 1: do that. What if I get hit by a car
Speaker 1: and I die, you know, I've broken the promise to him.
Speaker 1: You know, That's something I've been trying to teach my son.
Speaker 1: And like I said, to touch on the RH negative thing.
Speaker 1: I'm a negative. I have like one of the rarest
Speaker 1: blood types in the world. If you trace the lineage
Speaker 1: of all the presidents, they're all RH negative, you know.
Speaker 7: And I was a little delusional with being a.
Speaker 1: Young man with a big ego, and I thought to myself, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll come from Freemasons and I have a
Speaker 1: negative blood type, and basically, you know, I should be royalty,
Speaker 1: but I live in Volville and I don't have anything.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I just thought we'd touch
Speaker 1: on that too, because I feel like you must have
Speaker 1: known some Freemasons in your time in the military or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 5: Well, unfortunately, I wasn't really too awake during that time period.
Speaker 7: That's understandable, but.
Speaker 5: I will tell you one thing I was aware of
Speaker 5: is the Masons were the ring and for the DA
Speaker 5: photo for selection to Senior NCO, which is he's seventy
Speaker 5: eighty nine. The picture used to be basically from just
Speaker 5: below the waist up and people would wear the Freemason
Speaker 5: rings and there was an old theory that that's.
Speaker 6: How these people would get selected.
Speaker 5: So when their photo there, would wear their ring, so
Speaker 5: the people on the selection board would see, oh, this
Speaker 5: guy's got the ring.
Speaker 6: He's part of the club. We're promoting him him.
Speaker 1: Now that changes.
Speaker 5: That changed, man, it's been ten years since I've retired.
Speaker 5: I think it changed around two thousand and four, two
Speaker 5: thousand and five, where now your DA photo was just
Speaker 5: pretty much your you know, mid section up just where
Speaker 5: you can see your awards and ribbons on up. So okay,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure they figured something else another way to
Speaker 5: detect this out right, especially with the technology we have today.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend's grandfather, he's he was an nine in the Navy,
Speaker 1: made well, he liked it. He was on submarines and Scutchia.
Speaker 1: So and he was lucky in that regard. Like if
Speaker 1: you're saying that that's how it was, he he's not.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even he doesn't even like have a concept
Speaker 1: of God. So and he's never been a freemason, but
Speaker 1: I would I would be inclined to agree with you
Speaker 1: that if you witness that, then maybe seventy percent of
Speaker 1: all people reaching those ranks they were freemasons.
Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly enlisted.
Speaker 5: It was important to get freemasons on the enlisted side.
Speaker 5: But I'd be more inclined to think that there's more
Speaker 5: on the officer side, because they're the actual planners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ones who make they stay away from the
Speaker 1: battles for the most part and stuff, and they're kind
Speaker 1: of like to just love the logistics of death.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's funny because I cracked this joke when I
Speaker 1: run into military people at my job and I say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, she said, don't go, she'll miss me so much,
Speaker 1: And now she doesn't miss me. You know, all my
Speaker 1: family's military, and I was about to be a marine.
Speaker 1: You know, I could have been in the Air Force.
Speaker 1: I scored really high on my EYESPAB.
Speaker 7: I just didn't. I didn't end up going.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good thing or I
Speaker 1: but I think now that I'm very clear headed and
Speaker 1: I seek nothing but the truth.
Speaker 7: Actively.
Speaker 1: I always would have had an inclination for the truth
Speaker 1: in my teenage years and stuff really since a kid.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but I'm just really happy that
Speaker 1: I'm not full of a bunch of vaccines that I
Speaker 1: don't know if they actually work. And I really wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you, George about vaccines too, because I'm
Speaker 1: so conflicted about them, and for the other listeners who
Speaker 1: are and for someone as eligible as you are, I
Speaker 1: would like to touch.
Speaker 7: On that today because I'm just so conflicted about it.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you don't get vaccines, they're saying that
Speaker 1: there's mes a lot breaks and that there's kids dying
Speaker 1: for measles just because their parents didn't decide to vax
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 7: And then I tell.
Speaker 1: Myself like, did they really cure polio, you know? Or
Speaker 1: did they just have a secret here inside of the vaccination?
Speaker 1: Like and then when you just look at the vaccination ingredients,
Speaker 1: it's very weird, like why are you putting fetal cells
Speaker 1: in there? And then to touch on some more crazy subjects,
Speaker 1: I worked with a Christian in New York and he
Speaker 1: said that pepsi products and he coincidentally was from Louisville.
Speaker 1: I moved to Syracuse for a while. I was doing
Speaker 1: granite countertops and blah blah blah. Long story short, he
Speaker 1: said that Pepsi products specifically have aborted.
Speaker 7: Fetal cells in them.
Speaker 1: So I just want to touch first on vaccines and
Speaker 1: then we'll start talking about nutrition and food and how
Speaker 1: they're trying to put weird stuff in our water and food.
Speaker 7: So that's a fascination.
Speaker 5: Obama Agency rules Pepsi's use of aborted fetal cells and
Speaker 5: soft drinks constitutes ordinary business operations. That was reported on
Speaker 5: March seventeenth, twenty twelve. The Obama administration has given its
Speaker 5: blessing to Pepsicode to continue utilizing the services of a
Speaker 5: company that produces flavor chemicals for the Beverage Giant using
Speaker 5: aborted human fetal tissue.
Speaker 6: So that is that.
Speaker 5: There are a few articles I've not taken the time,
Speaker 5: but there's a lot of articles, and I'll put that
Speaker 5: in the show notes, and I'm going to continue to
Speaker 5: investigate and uh.
Speaker 6: More about that.
Speaker 5: As far as vaccines, It's funny you mentioned that I
Speaker 5: just dropped a podcast last night on The Fact Hunter
Speaker 5: that was about mercury and vaccines and more dimerasol. Thimerasol, right,
Speaker 5: which is actually worse than mercury.
Speaker 1: If you look at it, it's like a yeah. So
Speaker 1: it's like a yeah, I guess it would be like
Speaker 1: a more concentrated form of it. Right, That's exactly what
Speaker 1: it is. Such a such an adult adult, a terrible substance.
Speaker 7: So just use a simple word.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: The natural mercury is around six percent thimerisol, if I
Speaker 5: remember correctly, was thirty seven percent. And here's the thing
Speaker 5: with the mumps and measles outbreak. Yeah, and listen, I
Speaker 5: never just say only two people died, right, every single
Speaker 5: life is important, and it's a tragedy. You have two
Speaker 5: children that just tragically died. Now everything that they do
Speaker 5: and they being the controllers there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will agree with you saying they and
Speaker 1: the death the death tolls. Usually in controlled operations, they
Speaker 1: usually use numbers they like.
Speaker 5: Yes, and they keep going. They're very careful with the
Speaker 5: words they use. So if you go to the Reuter's
Speaker 5: release from I think Saturday or Sunday, it was Sunday,
Speaker 5: it says, uh, I think it was eight year old
Speaker 5: unvaccinated girl dies, So they use unvaccinated in there, and
Speaker 5: the psychology in this is to connect unvaccinated to death.
Speaker 5: That was the very first bullet point in the story. Now, listen,
Speaker 5: people die from but it's very few, and again every
Speaker 5: case it's terrible. We don't know what the other issues were,
Speaker 5: compromise this or whatever. But here's the thing. Take the
Speaker 5: time and go to VARs, which is the vaccine advert
Speaker 5: Reporting system, right, yes, and you will see that in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, I think was the last reporting date,
Speaker 5: and this was updated as of March twenty eighth, ten
Speaker 5: days ago, there were one hundred thousand adverse events. Listen
Speaker 5: to this though reported to VERES. You can talk to
Speaker 5: any person in the medical industry and they will tell
Speaker 5: you anywhere between only one to ten percent of adverse
Speaker 5: events gets reported.
Speaker 1: Exactly I was gonna. I was gonna say, I agree
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 5: For everybody one event that gets reported to VERS, anywhere
Speaker 5: between ten to you know more, you don't get reported.
Speaker 6: So now here's the other thing.
Speaker 5: Seventy five percent of those injuries came from Merk their
Speaker 5: MMR vaccine, and they have a stranglehold on that, the
Speaker 5: MMR vaccine industry. So you have two people who and
Speaker 5: I'm sure same the other right, that maybe passed from
Speaker 5: something mumps measles.
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, it was the same with COVID too, Like I
Speaker 1: really like how you're laying this out. Is this like
Speaker 1: how many of those deaths were actually like from COVID.
Speaker 5: Yes, there was a guy who got hit by a motorcycle,
Speaker 5: he was driving a motorcycle, got hit by a car exactly.
Speaker 5: They marked him as COVID, by the way, George Floyd,
Speaker 5: they marked him as COVID. Dying of COVID one of
Speaker 5: the side effects. They say, they swabbed.
Speaker 7: It, get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, it's that's that's what they get. And
Speaker 1: their swab, their swab could have been like his immune
Speaker 1: system was fighting that disease. They can swab You say
Speaker 1: that you had COVID, and like, really you didn't have
Speaker 1: symptoms because your body was fighting it off.
Speaker 7: But you were a carrier.
Speaker 5: None of this non sense would have happened if they
Speaker 5: didn't kill Carrie Mullis in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sadly am ignorant as to who that is.
Speaker 6: He's the guy who created the PC of r.
Speaker 1: Okay. And then so you got people who like invent
Speaker 1: cars that run on water and Stanley more cancer and
Speaker 1: they die too.
Speaker 7: Yes, you know.
Speaker 5: Yes, I interviewed doctor Calker last week. He created or
Speaker 5: he's one of the pioneers of CDs.
Speaker 7: Listen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 5: I've got a batch of CDs going now, and it's
Speaker 5: I've never felt better in a long time. I'm sleeping better.
Speaker 5: It's it's amazing. God gave us all the resources that
Speaker 5: we need.
Speaker 1: But well, well, that's the thing, you know, I really
Speaker 1: love that about you, George. You recognize that his hand
Speaker 1: is in everything, and that He's laid out every single
Speaker 1: thing for us in everything, like the pharmacy. You know.
Speaker 1: That's why greats look like your bronchial tubes and they
Speaker 1: have anyoxidants. That's why a walnut looks like your brain
Speaker 1: and has omega three. That's why tomato has four chambers
Speaker 1: like a heart. It has four valves, you know, four chambers.
Speaker 1: Actually that's that I did say it the right way, uh,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's that's why kidney beans are good
Speaker 1: for your kidneys and they look like your kidney, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's just the tip of the iceberg. And it's
Speaker 1: funny talking about that. Talking about how we live in
Speaker 1: a snow globe, is how I perceive it. The water
Speaker 1: above us makes the sky blue. The science, the scientists
Speaker 1: can say all they want and bring up the mumbo
Speaker 1: jumbo and say that, you know, we're going one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand miles an hour and we're spending at one thousand,
Speaker 1: and we're moving through an ever expanding universe. But why
Speaker 1: do I still see the dog star and it hasn't
Speaker 1: moved one degree. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, they love mockery. It's one of
Speaker 1: their favorite, their most favorite rituals. And that's why Werner
Speaker 1: von Braun has his Saw nineteen on his tombstone.
Speaker 5: I can't hear you, no, I just said I was
Speaker 5: agreeing with you. I often wonder is that mockery or
Speaker 5: is that disclosure? With Warner von Brown?
Speaker 1: Oh, like, in his dying breast, did he like feel
Speaker 1: like he was doing the right thing? That's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean he had a humble tombstone for someone who
Speaker 1: was so well off.
Speaker 6: He did.
Speaker 5: And I think another thing that can't be ignored is
Speaker 5: his relationship with Walt Disney and a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Even I did not know that there was a big
Speaker 1: connection with him too. There's a huge There's a guy
Speaker 1: named Russian Vis. Yeah, his name's RV Truth. That guy
Speaker 1: he I think has touched on that, and he man
Speaker 1: that guy. If any listener wants to check him out.
Speaker 1: He's had several channels that have been taken down, but
Speaker 1: he has an RV Truth channel up right now. And
Speaker 1: that's one thing that does conflict. Do you know, I
Speaker 1: told you I'm an avid listener. He does not like
Speaker 1: David Weiss, and he does not like some of these people,
Speaker 1: but I kind of take that with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he does give good information and
Speaker 1: I think that he's touched on that.
Speaker 5: So that's the only problem I have with him is
Speaker 5: he spends a lot of his time. I think, No,
Speaker 5: a lot of his work is great. I completely agree,
Speaker 5: I've I've followed him for years. The only thing that's
Speaker 5: kind of far fetched. The only thing that's kind of
Speaker 5: a bummer is he spends too much time on other truthers.
Speaker 5: And if you're not going to show your face, then
Speaker 5: you probably shouldn't call other people frauds. That's the only
Speaker 5: problem I have with him. I think his work's great.
Speaker 5: He actually has a wrestling channel too.
Speaker 1: Wow. I didn't know that, So, yeah, what do you
Speaker 1: mean by wrestling, like like entertainment wrestling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like professional wrestling. He'll do these short little four
Speaker 5: or five minutes.
Speaker 1: And that's that's funny. So I can I can see
Speaker 1: him enjoying that. Yeah, I can just read his personality. Yep.
Speaker 1: I mean I obviously think that he means well, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, George, I will agree that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know why he spends time like he's always trying to
Speaker 1: find a double agent, you know, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: when you get in a mindset like that, you seem
Speaker 1: a little too paranoid. There's a guy on YouTube used
Speaker 1: to be at least his name was mag Truth, and
Speaker 1: I would listen to him when I wanted to listen
Speaker 1: to the most far fetched conspiracies as possible, you know,
Speaker 1: because he said that every single celebrity is like a
Speaker 1: reverso like you know, like jay Z's a woman and
Speaker 1: Beyonce's a man, and you know, just stuff where it's like, eh,
Speaker 1: I don't know how true it is. It could be true.
Speaker 1: But when I when I really want to be grounded
Speaker 1: in truth, you know, I'll listen to you, and I
Speaker 1: do check into r V Truth a lot. The sad
Speaker 1: part is is YouTube is really shadow band Truth, so
Speaker 1: I don't really have many resources anymore. Yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 1: pop in my algo very much. I have to go
Speaker 1: find him. Yeah, I don't know how Spotify grace me
Speaker 1: with your presence, bro, I mean, I really don't.
Speaker 5: It's funny that the flat Earth podcast isn't really shadow band,
Speaker 5: but you can't find the Fact Hunter. You really have
Speaker 5: to work hard to find that one, which is Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 7: Gonna have to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to start checking that out too. I
Speaker 1: haven't even listened to one episode of it.
Speaker 5: There's eleven hundred hours or so of content over there.
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you your your story, your journey
Speaker 5: to the truth, and you mentioned when you were just
Speaker 5: a small child that you started to notice things. Could
Speaker 5: you give us that story?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to, actually, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: go ahead and start with I was raised Christian. I'll
Speaker 1: put that in parentheses. You know what that kind of
Speaker 1: entails sometimes, you know, that's like, you can be raised
Speaker 1: Christian all you want, but I wasn't shown Christianity.
Speaker 7: It didn't show in my parents' actions. It did in my.
Speaker 1: Grandparents' actions, but like I lived with them sometimes and
Speaker 1: then I didn't. I'll touch on that a little bit
Speaker 1: if I can, But I remember in fourth grade it
Speaker 1: was I lived two doors town, I'm from a church,
Speaker 1: and I took myself and my agnostic friend to church.
Speaker 1: We got baptized. Not many people who are ten years
Speaker 1: old like bring themselves to church. And I always knew
Speaker 1: God was real since I was a kid, you know,
Speaker 1: and so knowing God was real, it wasn't easy to sin.
Speaker 1: I did send in it advertently, you know. It's just
Speaker 1: something that happens as a kid, you know, like maybe
Speaker 1: you chime into someone being bullied, you know. But for
Speaker 1: the most part, I was a nonjudgmental person. I like
Speaker 1: to hang out with all the different groups of people.
Speaker 1: And when we were kids, especially in my day, you
Speaker 1: had groups of people.
Speaker 7: You had, you know, the jocks, the preps.
Speaker 1: It's kind of different at school now probably, but h
Speaker 1: and I would hang out with any of the nerds,
Speaker 1: the jocks, the preps, like it didn't matter what you
Speaker 1: were I was. I was open to being your friend,
Speaker 1: and so basically so I had a strong belief in God.
Speaker 1: I went to church, I got myself baptized around ten
Speaker 1: et cetera, and then I had a terrible thing happened.
Speaker 1: So in two thousand and six, I was living in Jeffersonville, Indiana,
Speaker 1: and two friends of mine named Devin and Dylan, they
Speaker 1: and offered me pot. And I was a fourth grader,
Speaker 1: and you know, I rejected doing pot. I didn't really
Speaker 1: have a one for it. And uh, two weeks of
Speaker 1: peer pressure, I gave in and I smoked pot. The
Speaker 1: second I smoked pot, I looked up was like, God,
Speaker 1: isn't real, you know what I mean? And if you
Speaker 1: look at bokavinok who taught us how to use drugs,
Speaker 1: demons did. So I'll just touch on that real quick.
Speaker 1: And I don't blame someone who is my age for
Speaker 1: me using pot. I mean, they're kids, but I was
Speaker 1: very young. Fourth grade, yeah, super young. Parents were coming
Speaker 1: home one day I had been touched using pot. From then,
Speaker 1: I'm lighting a joint on the stove. They knock on
Speaker 1: the door. I have a dead locked I can't believe
Speaker 1: they knocked on the door. They obviously had a key.
Speaker 1: It just got lucky. So I flush it and they
Speaker 1: come in. Their house smells like pot and they're asking
Speaker 1: me why it smells like pot. Of course, now I've
Speaker 1: learned how to lie. I'm ten, kids can lie and
Speaker 1: I say, oh, no, Trey came over here and was
Speaker 1: stole your pot or something like that. And the funny
Speaker 1: thing is their oldest brother was named Trey. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: not that Trey, and like, there's the older brother coincidentally
Speaker 1: is like standing outside and listening to me, like argue
Speaker 1: with my parents about it. And I grew up really fast,
Speaker 1: like I basically had to raise myself. It's it's a
Speaker 1: pretty long story in that regard, but uh, basically, you know,
Speaker 1: I got away with the lie.
Speaker 7: They're like, oh, not that tray, some other tray.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess because you're ten years old,
Speaker 1: it's hard to like not believe your kid. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: think they're actually smoking pot. I'm a fourth grader, and
Speaker 1: like you said, as a parent, you know, Georgia, you
Speaker 1: got a good head on your shoulders. You know that
Speaker 1: that's absolutely insane. So yeah, so I'm smoking the pot
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I got scared to death.
Speaker 7: I quit smoking pot.
Speaker 1: But then from then on, I started just having like
Speaker 1: kind of a mental problem. You know, I was like
Speaker 1: having a struggle. And then around fifteen, sixteen years old,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to experiment with more drugs and I could
Speaker 1: touch on that more, but uh, basically I was just
Speaker 1: a teenager partying and stuff. And then in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: I had done some acid and basically, you know, was
Speaker 1: doing a mind expand drug and through that spiritual journey
Speaker 1: i'll call it, there was this one time where I
Speaker 1: basically got a thought in my head and it felt
Speaker 1: like it came from God. And I was sober at
Speaker 1: the time, and I was looking up at the sky
Speaker 1: and he said, you're underwater, right, And I went and
Speaker 1: I discussed this with a friend, you know, because all
Speaker 1: my friends were into conspiracy theories, but they'd be into
Speaker 1: stuff like the hollow Earth theory or this theory or
Speaker 1: that theory, and just stuff that like it it made
Speaker 1: you curious, but it never it never hit home, you know.
Speaker 1: And when I was a teenager, when all the kids
Speaker 1: were like, you know, playing Flappy Bird or hanging out
Speaker 1: with their friends or you know, like playing video games,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time doing research on the Internet.
Speaker 1: Research and the truth. I studied like all real leigions
Speaker 1: and stuff, and uh, basically, so that's where like all
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theory stuff started and you know, just looking
Speaker 1: at the word conspiracy and uh, basically after I was
Speaker 1: told that we were underwater, that was about twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: and uh, twenty nineteen came around pre COVID, and I
Speaker 1: had and I was going to say, in high school,
Speaker 1: I had watched like Zeitgeist, you know, and that felt
Speaker 1: so profound and so I'm trying to break down the
Speaker 1: like sections of my life where basically I'm seeking the
Speaker 1: truth but I'm not really finding it and I'm not
Speaker 1: looking in the Bible, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I know exactly then so so so so being
Speaker 1: a kid having that ego, you know, and then like
Speaker 1: you're you go to and like you don't really see
Speaker 1: people there for God. And I wanted to mention that
Speaker 1: to you earlier. It's like because of those churches, like
Speaker 1: if it's not pushed, they they like all secretly believe
Speaker 1: that we're on a ball spinning through an ever expanding universe.
Speaker 1: And that were monkey fish frogs, ye you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like a monkey will always be a monkey,
Speaker 1: a cow's going to stay a cow, but they're they
Speaker 1: have like in their subconscious. It's like you're a church
Speaker 1: you believe in God, but you don't know that he's
Speaker 1: like literally looking at you.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so church and churchgoers and Christians like they never
Speaker 1: they never ring fully true to me. And it did
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. But remember I smoked pot
Speaker 1: and it like changed me. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: planted some type of evil seed and a dark tree grew.
Speaker 1: But the point is I had sought out all this truth.
Speaker 1: I'm studying all these different religions, and I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: like my reading and writing comprehension level because of all
Speaker 1: this research I did. When I took my GED test,
Speaker 1: like I was in the tenth percentile, and like I
Speaker 1: hardly went to school, bro, Like I skipped so much
Speaker 1: school that I would have the truant officer after me,
Speaker 1: and I dropped out in tenth grade. So like for
Speaker 1: me to have that reading and writing comprehension level, you know,
Speaker 1: with parents that didn't like put me through school for real,
Speaker 1: it was a show that I was intelligent. And I
Speaker 1: always got told by my teachers that I was a
Speaker 1: bright guy. And basically, so I'm doing all this research
Speaker 1: and I'm seeking the Truth, and twenty nineteen comes around,
Speaker 1: and it's funny because in twenty fifteen, God, as far
Speaker 1: as I know, telled me, hey, you're underwater. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what that means. It took four more years and
Speaker 1: I start watching Eric Dubay, you know, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that he's not a Christian.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, like Google, Like we were
Speaker 1: talking about RV Truth, Like, I'm not going to sit
Speaker 1: there and scrutinize this guy. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna sit there and say he
Speaker 1: works for the CIA.
Speaker 7: Everything happens for a reason, like we spoke on earlier.
Speaker 1: So whether or not he's a good guy bad guy,
Speaker 1: he gave me information I needed and so basically, you know,
Speaker 1: he I watched his stuff. I was watching RV Truth.
Speaker 1: This is what his channel was called Russian Bids. He's
Speaker 1: been around for a long time. No he has, and
Speaker 1: like he would use God and I was like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: like like now it really makes sense. And coincidentally, I
Speaker 1: was still doing granted countertops at the time, and I
Speaker 1: was in a truck. I just got this job. It's
Speaker 1: called McDonald Marble and we were in a truck together
Speaker 1: and we all were talking about the flat Earth. And
Speaker 1: I'm kind of sad that I didn't keep that job,
Speaker 1: but I had to. I had trouble keeping the job then.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on with me. I
Speaker 1: just don't think I was ready to be be be
Speaker 1: a man. It's complicated, man, uh you know so, But
Speaker 1: basically it was really cool seeing that, like there was
Speaker 1: three other grown men who were like yeah, and there
Speaker 1: was like a there was like a wave of like
Speaker 1: people finding this out, you know what I mean, whether
Speaker 1: they wanted to like admit it or not or let
Speaker 1: people know that they were starting to like flirt with
Speaker 1: the belief that we live on a on a plane,
Speaker 1: you know, and you take off the letter T from
Speaker 1: the word planet, what do you get plane? You get
Speaker 1: a plane's right? And then so that was really cool.
Speaker 1: I maybe should have kept that job at least for
Speaker 1: a while, because it would have been nice to be
Speaker 1: able to interact with people, and you know, they could
Speaker 1: have been believing that we live on a plane, but
Speaker 1: they might not have been believing in God.
Speaker 7: I didn't get to touch on it too much.
Speaker 1: But the funny thing about uh, the journey and coming
Speaker 1: to coming to the end of the road. There is
Speaker 1: UH for one like the truth. I feel like you
Speaker 1: feel it in your bones, and like I've always felt
Speaker 1: like this is the cold, hard truth, and the cold
Speaker 1: the truth is a hard pill to swallow, Like it's
Speaker 1: not fun, you know, and the truth hurts, you know.
Speaker 1: They say that for a reason.
Speaker 5: That's why people entertain themselves with Netflix and Amazon Prime
Speaker 5: then actually seeking the truth, because physically and mentally it's
Speaker 5: more comforting. It's like comfort. It's like meatloaf versus celery
Speaker 5: and carrots.
Speaker 1: Well, George, that's why I love your reply there, because
Speaker 1: like I can't enjoy any TV anymore.
Speaker 7: No, I don't enjoy movies. I don't enjoy any of it.
Speaker 1: And I hope some of the listeners agree, so I
Speaker 1: don't feel so alone. I feel like you and you agree.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's why it's so easy to run
Speaker 1: for run to your podcasts. You get out and live
Speaker 1: a life the way that you're living. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: just busy with the truth, yeah, because the lie isn't
Speaker 1: fun anymore. Like I don't like like, for instance, today
Speaker 1: I'm taking my girlfriend, We're going to go to the
Speaker 1: Louis Orchestra. We're gonna watching Harry Potter thing. Why because
Speaker 1: she loves Harry Potter. She is a believer in what
Speaker 1: we believe. I have her believe that. But it's hard
Speaker 1: not to do something that you know that your old
Speaker 1: self loved, you know what I mean, Like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go enjoy that to a degree. And like we watched
Speaker 1: we went to a play for the Mulin Rouge because
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I loved that movie. But
Speaker 1: there was people in drag and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: a part of me I was like, ah, I don't
Speaker 1: think I should be here, but I already bought the tickets,
Speaker 1: you know. And you know, I just do little things
Speaker 1: where it's like I hold on to my old nature
Speaker 1: because like life gets so you're so undistracted when you
Speaker 1: know the truth like this, like I can't you.
Speaker 5: Don't enjoy it the same way. Like I'll go to
Speaker 5: a baseball game once a year, either Phillies game or
Speaker 5: an Orioles game. And that's just kind of my way
Speaker 5: of just getting back to I call Normy Land and no.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like that.
Speaker 7: You say that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, everything to be done in you know, in spurts.
Speaker 5: If you stay in this rabbit hole twenty four to seven,
Speaker 5: you're going to drive yourself crazy and you're not going
Speaker 5: to have clarity like anything else. You have to pull
Speaker 5: yourself out, take a breath, and then go back in.
Speaker 5: Before we got much further, I did want to ask
Speaker 5: you one question because when you said you were younger
Speaker 5: fourth grade, before you said you went to church, did
Speaker 5: you go to Sunday School?
Speaker 1: So yes, there were times where I went to Sunday School.
Speaker 5: So my question is because this is something that someone
Speaker 5: mentioned to me, and then when I thought about it,
Speaker 5: I agreed. So the stories in the Bible, the way
Speaker 5: that they are presented to you in Sunday School, did
Speaker 5: you feel like they were being presented to you as
Speaker 5: the church?
Speaker 1: You're represented to me as a fairy tale.
Speaker 5: Think that's exactly like a story, especially things like Noah's
Speaker 5: ark et cetera.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, well, the funny thing is is like that
Speaker 1: time of twenty fifteen, it's like Jeffersonville is called the
Speaker 1: city of Red devils, right, and I had red revelations.
Speaker 1: I tried to live it out. There's old pictures of me.
Speaker 1: I have long hair, blue eyes, you know, and I
Speaker 1: look a lot like Jesus they depict him. I know
Speaker 1: that that's not how Jesus looks, right, But basically, I
Speaker 1: walked around with no shoes and no shirt on, trying
Speaker 1: to like be the Antichrist essentially, but claiming that I
Speaker 1: was Jesus because I wanted to fix this world basically,
Speaker 1: And that's a very long story, but basically, you know,
Speaker 1: I tried to live it out because I just felt
Speaker 1: like the world doesn't really subscribe to the Bible like
Speaker 1: they should, because like I could go to church and
Speaker 1: this is when I was crazy, and it's like they're
Speaker 1: just there because they're scared of hell, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm losing my training thought a little bit,
Speaker 1: just because it's such a complicated subject for me to
Speaker 1: bring up and it was such a dark time for me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, basically, what was I going to say? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I lost my training thought a little bit.
Speaker 6: But no, you're good.
Speaker 5: We were just talking about the Sunday School as they
Speaker 5: were presented.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Sunday School.
Speaker 1: We'll just talk back on that subject because the stuff
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen isn't that important right now, Because you
Speaker 1: did ask me a question, and I just remember being
Speaker 1: in Sunday School and it all was presented as a story,
Speaker 1: like you're right, like, oh, that's why I brought that up.
Speaker 1: So in twenty fifteen, like I did all that crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: I was out of my head. Drugs are not good
Speaker 1: for your mental yeah, But I met well when I
Speaker 1: was doing that crazy stuff, you know, like I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring Jesus back because with this truth that we founded,
Speaker 1: you know, as a community, the people listening you for instance,
Speaker 1: I started to realize that Jesus really walked this same earth,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and it wasn't a spinning
Speaker 1: ball like and just like Neo and the Matrix, you know,
Speaker 1: because they like to steal Jesus his story and just
Speaker 1: play it over again. That's what they do with Star Wars.
Speaker 1: They just twist it and they make it resemble his
Speaker 1: story because basically Jesus' story is like hey, dad, let
Speaker 1: me go fix this. This is how I view his story.
Speaker 1: And they're up there. They're above the firmament, they're above
Speaker 1: the waters of the heaven, and they're in the plane
Speaker 1: of the most high. They're in the highest existence possible.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: That's why they call him the most High and they,
Speaker 1: you know, and Jesus was the Lord of spirits as
Speaker 1: far as I know, and he was a shepherd of souls,
Speaker 1: and he's lord, let me save these people. They, you know,
Speaker 1: because before Jesus Christ, you eat fish on a certain day,
Speaker 1: you're going to hell, you know what I mean. Man,
Speaker 1: not one man is righteous. And there was few and
Speaker 1: far between in the Old Testament that made it to
Speaker 1: heaven as far as I know, because so many people
Speaker 1: were stuck in like pagan belief systems and stuff. And
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ like literally came down into this world and
Speaker 1: he walked the world that I walked on, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's that's part of why in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen I was so adamant about it because I
Speaker 1: was like, you, people just don't understand that, like Jesus
Speaker 1: is so real, you know. And but you know, another
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to touch on today was, oh, wait, before
Speaker 1: I do that, because I'm not going to lose my uh,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lose the one to touch on that.
Speaker 1: That's something that I really wanted to get done on
Speaker 1: this conversation.
Speaker 7: So where did you want to go with them?
Speaker 1: Presenting it as a as basically a falsehood in Sunday School,
Speaker 1: because I don't remember them ever telling me that this
Speaker 1: is finite truth, you know.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I think I don't think it's intentional. I
Speaker 5: think the people in the what do you call it,
Speaker 5: the denominations, you know, they talk about the story about
Speaker 5: the terrors and the wheat, and I think it was
Speaker 5: it's funny. I don't think it's done intentionally, but the
Speaker 5: way it's presented to children, it was almost the way
Speaker 5: it was presented with with Santa Claus, where it's a story,
Speaker 5: and yeah, I think it needs to be reinforced no
Speaker 5: matter the age, that this isn't just a story, that
Speaker 5: this actually happened. I think it's just the way. I
Speaker 5: don't think there was anything truly nefarious about it.
Speaker 7: I get it.
Speaker 1: But then, you know, George, we're watching veggietails right after
Speaker 1: they might.
Speaker 5: Well exactly, that's the other fight we're up against. You're
Speaker 5: in Sunday School for one hour a week, and then
Speaker 5: you're in the public education system for thirty five hours
Speaker 5: a week that pushes heliocentrism and evolution in Big Bang
Speaker 5: and all the cartoons and TV that has been perverted.
Speaker 1: Well, you know that's why I've running on a tangent
Speaker 1: I didn't need to is because I answered your question
Speaker 1: touched on in the subject blah blah blah. Now you've
Speaker 1: just given me a perfect answer that I can run with.
Speaker 1: Speaking of school, very intelligent kid, I was. I remember
Speaker 1: clearly them telling us about fossil fuels. I remember them
Speaker 1: clearly telling us things that if you google them now
Speaker 1: they'll literally say it's not true. Yep, okay, But then
Speaker 1: why does the oil company send Clair what's their logo?
Speaker 1: A dinosta freaking dinosaur.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1: Like you know. And the funny thing about the word dinosaur,
Speaker 1: I could say that that word Listen, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're gonna like this, Okay, the word dinosaur means
Speaker 1: they're going to dine on your soul and that they're
Speaker 1: going to soar because those spirits are the spirits of
Speaker 1: Been the film that we're stricken on the earth to
Speaker 1: work around and work through you and most of the
Speaker 1: sins that you see people commit are because of these dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Because it's the same spirit, it's the same thing. Because
Speaker 1: that's that's the gist that I get. Now, that's very
Speaker 1: far fetched what I said there, but to just keep
Speaker 1: it a little more grounded in reality, you know, the world,
Speaker 1: Like we were talking about how the pharmacy of God,
Speaker 1: you know, they can cure everything we need.
Speaker 7: They have everything we need in the world.
Speaker 1: Right. Oil is infinite. Everything is infinite. Just think about
Speaker 1: all these kids vaping and all these batteries they're throwing everywhere, right,
Speaker 1: and like think about all the water bottles and all
Speaker 1: the food and all the bananas and all. Like it's
Speaker 1: just it's like, that's why these people can believe that
Speaker 1: we live in a simulation, because it's just that unreal
Speaker 1: the amount of resources that God has given us. Yep,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that logo in itself
Speaker 1: is just very telling. It's a sign. You know. They
Speaker 1: tried to say that it's fossil fuels, right, but now
Speaker 1: if you google it it's not. But I remember clearly
Speaker 1: there were textbooks from mcgirl Hill and they literally said
Speaker 1: that that oil is fossil fuels. Yep, yep. But if
Speaker 1: you go to an oil reserve, it it comes back,
Speaker 1: you know, ten years later, and it's producing oil again.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Well, why are they pulling oil out of
Speaker 5: the oceans. Did they drowned? Did they go out and
Speaker 5: just drowned? Right, the one that caught on fire in
Speaker 5: south of Louisiana that was out in the middle of
Speaker 5: the water.
Speaker 7: So so I really like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like that.
Speaker 7: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, so, but the reason they do that
Speaker 1: is because but that's the insults our intelligence. It is,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 7: It's like it's like, oh yeah, you know, and it's
Speaker 7: just like that.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like some charismatic, good looking guy who
Speaker 1: just is like telling a female a story and like
Speaker 1: she just believes whatever he says. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: like the relationship dynamic is with us and what you.
Speaker 7: Call and what I call them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but they have to they have to
Speaker 5: act like they that the resources are limited. Otherwise they
Speaker 5: if there were, if we knew, or if they told
Speaker 5: us they were infinite resources, they couldn't get away.
Speaker 1: A gallon exactly. And the funny thing is is I
Speaker 1: get sad about the fact that I'm a worker bee,
Speaker 1: you know, and I always sit there and think, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be nice to be a Rothschild or or
Speaker 1: a Rockefeller and I just own something that's free, and
Speaker 1: I sell it to people You're like, could you imagine that?
Speaker 1: Like you just you know, and and then they get
Speaker 1: so bored. And this is something I wanted to touch
Speaker 1: on too. I mean, when you can have a Ferrari
Speaker 1: and Lamborghini and you know you don't love God, you
Speaker 1: love the devil, it's easy to get into the Satanic rituals,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's the stuff that really tickles your
Speaker 1: pickle from then on, because you you run out of
Speaker 1: stuff that can stimulate you. And I love I know
Speaker 1: that you don't like to keep these longer than an
Speaker 1: hour and a half. So I feel like we can
Speaker 1: run on a tangent here with this. And I know,
Speaker 1: since you're the fact hunter, you know that there's truth
Speaker 1: tod this. I mean, we got interviews with kids who've
Speaker 1: survived it. Yea. You know, there's kids who have been
Speaker 1: putting coffins with snakes and spiders, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: what happens is these people run out of stimulation. And
Speaker 1: you know, of course, you know P Diddy is just
Speaker 1: He's just a drop in the bucket.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: Epstein is just someone they want us to know about.
Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, these people, you know, and it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to there and and talk about this because
Speaker 1: this is the most you can mess with me all day.
Speaker 1: I'm a grown man, you know. But they're messing with children.
Speaker 1: And and then they idolize people like Alister Crowley. He's
Speaker 1: on the Sergeant Pepper's Only Hearts Club, you know that
Speaker 1: the album cover. Jay Z's got a hoodie that says
Speaker 1: do without wilt, you know, And that's just crazy to
Speaker 1: me that it's just so in your face. But they
Speaker 1: got the blinders on. And these are the people, you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up and this is why I had such
Speaker 1: a problem being happy with who I am sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: it's because it's like, oh, no, you didn't really make
Speaker 1: it in life. Unless you're rich and famous, you didn't
Speaker 1: really make it, you know. But like my grandpa, like
Speaker 1: he had a record deal and like he was offered that,
Speaker 1: and my grandma she's like, hey, listen, like you're going
Speaker 1: to go do that or you're gonna like raise this family.
Speaker 1: And he didn't do that. He just chose to be
Speaker 1: a trucker and raised my dad and his other five kids.
Speaker 1: And if you look at the parallel of like him,
Speaker 1: versus Johnny Cash, who was happier like my grandfather when
Speaker 1: he passed away. My grandmother a couple of years later,
Speaker 1: died on his birthday, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, yeah, here's your reward for doing
Speaker 1: the right thing. Like my grandfather was a Christian, he
Speaker 1: chose to take care of his kids. But what kind
Speaker 1: of man was Johnny Cash? He chose to travel the
Speaker 1: world commit adultery. And then he's saying nine inch Nails
Speaker 1: hurt as one of the cover songs, like so good
Speaker 1: you can have it all my Empire of Dirt and
Speaker 1: what's the reference to nine inch nails?
Speaker 7: It sounds like they're making fun.
Speaker 1: Of Jesus to me, so come on, yeah, more mockery
Speaker 1: and yes, So that's something I wanted to touch on too,
Speaker 1: is like just just the way that and I've been
Speaker 1: having trouble and struggling because like like I have serious
Speaker 1: XM because it's like I have a trial run or
Speaker 1: like it's like seven dollars a month right now, and
Speaker 1: you know, like I get on my Apple Music and
Speaker 1: I play one song and then it just shuffles.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 1: Really I shouldn't be listening to secular music.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've gotten away from it quite a bit.
Speaker 7: I'm proud of you.
Speaker 5: Not not all the way, but I'm very careful. I
Speaker 5: don't listen to sixties and seventies stuff where I think
Speaker 5: it was very heavily infiltrated. If I listen to something
Speaker 5: it's normally like eighties, just very easy stuff. That is,
Speaker 5: you know, but we all never completely pull out of
Speaker 5: the matrix. But there is certainly something, whether it's the
Speaker 5: frequency that it's being played on the lyrics. There is
Speaker 5: such a thing as backtracking.
Speaker 1: What is at four forty four? And I think.
Speaker 6: Something like that, it's not a three or six.
Speaker 1: Notes off by ten or something like it's frust before
Speaker 1: thirty two They say, so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it should end into three, six or nine if
Speaker 5: you had the individual numbers up and it comes out
Speaker 5: to even a number that's not Maybe it's four forty
Speaker 5: or something like that.
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about the Crowley, the Epstein
Speaker 1: the the because you know it is a theory, and
Speaker 1: we did we we can't prove it completely because like
Speaker 1: the interview I'm talking about on YouTube, you can find it.
Speaker 1: It's like a girl she she talks about how like
Speaker 1: she was saved from a cult.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know what the one you're talking about.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So so she says that it's a mansion and it's
Speaker 1: at a certain spot. You know, it's like she doesn't
Speaker 1: She's not able to say like, oh you know, Oprah
Speaker 1: Winfrey was there. Oh, you know, the Queen Elizabeth was there.
Speaker 1: Oh you know. It's like it makes it a theory,
Speaker 1: but it seems so real to me because it's like,
Speaker 1: why would you have someone on your album cover who
Speaker 1: says the strongest black magical, black magic ritual you can
Speaker 1: perform is like to take the virginity of a child.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't understand that. And then like,
Speaker 1: you know, hearing through the great vineum of the stuff
Speaker 1: that Diddy was doing and this is this his name?
Speaker 1: Did he did he?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did he do it exactly? Like really? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well that's it's I don't know. It's two things I
Speaker 5: can add to that. Number One, I think the Epstein
Speaker 5: SiGe up was to make you believe that the only
Speaker 5: place in the world that these evil things were taking
Speaker 5: place was Epstein Island. You have the you have the
Speaker 5: Getty by Los Angeles, you have you know, many of
Speaker 5: the Rothchild mansions, you have Denver, you have certainly Switzerland,
Speaker 5: many areas in Switzerland where these people are kidnapped. And uh, everybody,
Speaker 5: if you've never listened to my other podcast, please listen
Speaker 5: this coming Tuesday night. We are interviewing Fern and Audrey.
Speaker 5: These people have been like counseling these people who have
Speaker 5: come out of government programming, trauma based mind control, satanic
Speaker 5: ritual abuses, and they will tell us firsthand stories of
Speaker 5: this stuff. Is not just conjecture. Yeah, this, you know,
Speaker 5: fear based mind control is everything from an individual event
Speaker 5: to a mass event like the Challenger or nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: And all the people the original founders of NASA were inspired. Yeah,
Speaker 5: well not so much.
Speaker 6: I had one. One of them was Warner Broker.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but Jack Parsons and those guys part of
Speaker 5: the OTO. They were influenced by Alistair Crowley. Alistair Crowley
Speaker 5: was a thirty third degree freemason. Many people believe he
Speaker 5: was which Barbara Bush's father. There's a whole story.
Speaker 1: How I've heard of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he met Barbara dude.
Speaker 7: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a whole By the way, before we get
Speaker 5: too far, I just wanted to mention, Uh, you mentioned
Speaker 5: Star Wars the Death Star. If you go to Revelations
Speaker 5: chapter eight, verses ten and eleven, it refers to the
Speaker 5: star called Wormwood, which represents.
Speaker 1: The Death Star.
Speaker 6: It Wow, Yeah, I wanted to mention that before we
Speaker 6: got any further.
Speaker 1: But no, but I really like that that, uh, you're
Speaker 1: going to be able to sit there and on on
Speaker 1: Tuesday really help listeners and people that want the truth
Speaker 1: that you're going to help them be solidified in it
Speaker 1: because it's something that's just so crazy that you couldn't
Speaker 1: see yourself doing. It's hard to fully fully believe it,
Speaker 1: you know, but because like I said earlier, it's like
Speaker 1: I get I get lulled back into it. It's like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: do I do I really know the truth like this,
Speaker 1: like and just everybody else doesn't because it just seems
Speaker 1: like such a small amount of people, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: was at work, uh last week, and since they're talking
Speaker 1: to a coworker and we're talking about, uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know how her birthday is, like September something. I made
Speaker 1: a joke. I'm like, oh, aren't you glad that it
Speaker 1: wasn't September eleventh? And then we get to talking about
Speaker 1: September eleventh, and then like she didn't even know there
Speaker 1: was the World Trade Center three. And I just don't
Speaker 1: understand how people like, for me, George, like that's that
Speaker 1: should be common knowledge. I feel like that should be
Speaker 1: common knowledge, especially when there's a video of the guy
Speaker 1: who pulled the insurance policies out and it's like he's
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, we had to pull it, and Silver's
Speaker 1: demolition term. Yeah. Yeah, So Silverstein's sitting there saying, oh,
Speaker 1: we had to pull it, you know, and it's like
Speaker 1: I feel like that is common knowledge, you know, but
Speaker 1: it's not. It's literally not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then when you Google, So I was sitting there
Speaker 1: trying to Google, I'm like World Trade Center three, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like it just it just said that one existed.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like in the Google where it's like, oh
Speaker 1: yeah it fell to you know, it's just weird to me,
Speaker 1: it's so weird, like how is it possible?
Speaker 7: And you know, and then.
Speaker 1: Speak speaking of Russian VIDs again, it's like he says
Speaker 1: that it was just an implosion like that that the
Speaker 1: plane that's shown on the news.
Speaker 7: Was yeah, and Georgie.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like how open minded you can
Speaker 1: be about the truth. It's like, you know, I say
Speaker 1: that and you're like, oh, no way, there's no way
Speaker 1: that's true, like that there were planes, you know. It's
Speaker 1: just like you gotta flirt with the idea that you know,
Speaker 1: we don't really know. And uh, it kind of makes
Speaker 1: sense to me too. And then there's like people uber
Speaker 1: firefighters and stuff and stuff like that, and like there's
Speaker 1: witnesses and they said that they never really saw a plane.
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I go back, it could.
Speaker 5: It's called the noplane theory, which people believe it was
Speaker 5: a hologram. I consider that I actually did a podcast
Speaker 5: on the noplane theory, and then it's also feasible.
Speaker 6: And I don't have my notes in front of me.
Speaker 5: But there's actually a group based out of Israel that
Speaker 5: makes drones, and a lot of people think it was
Speaker 5: because if you look at it, it doesn't look like
Speaker 5: an airliner. It looks like a dark gray type of thing.
Speaker 5: Most people think that it was drones. Certainly not. They
Speaker 5: think it was an Operation Northwoods type of event where
Speaker 5: the original planes that had the people on them were
Speaker 5: swapped out.
Speaker 6: They did a flyover.
Speaker 5: You know, it's certainly I do not believe for a
Speaker 5: second that the plane, yeah, that the plane that was
Speaker 5: originally took off from Logan and Newark were the ones
Speaker 5: that hit. Absolutely not specifically the one in the Pentagon. No,
Speaker 5: there was a guy who had been a pilot for
Speaker 5: over thirty years and he tried like fifty times in
Speaker 5: a simulator to make that big quirk screw and to
Speaker 5: fly in Yeah. And this guy who was the pilot,
Speaker 5: he couldn't even fly a Cessna, a single engine plane.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, and that's the stuff that just it
Speaker 1: just makes their lie so exposed, you know. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, did you ever get a little frustrated about
Speaker 1: that too, Like just the fact that that's not common knowledge.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what people are seeking out in life.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was one on you. I got
Speaker 1: lost a little bit. And that's why, like like earlier,
Speaker 1: I regret the fact that, you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: touch on that subject again. We haven't went into detail
Speaker 1: about it because I can't really, but you know, I
Speaker 1: got I got lost in that little piece of twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen just because since prior to then, like my my
Speaker 1: truth journey started very long time ago, and like that's
Speaker 1: just always been what I seek out, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's just the type of person I am. And I
Speaker 1: just I just want to ask you, George, like, what
Speaker 1: are people chasing in life? Like? Is it materialism? Is it?
Speaker 1: Are they is it willful ignorance?
Speaker 7: Do they do? They do?
Speaker 1: They know the truth to some degree and they just
Speaker 1: deny it so they can live and sin, Like I
Speaker 1: just And another funny thing about us finding this truth
Speaker 1: of the world and how you know it's really set up?
Speaker 1: Like how you know this guy's blue because there's water
Speaker 1: above us, you know. I just I just know that
Speaker 1: was common knowledge before and we were still sacrificing children.
Speaker 1: So it's not something that's going to change your life completely.
Speaker 1: It's just something that you know. It can help you
Speaker 1: realize that, you know, the angels are writing down every
Speaker 1: move we make, you know, and that you should really
Speaker 1: be mindful of your actions. But I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just I just want to ask you, George, what are
Speaker 1: people seeking out?
Speaker 5: Well, to answer your your first question, is you you
Speaker 5: actually answered it earlier when you mentioned what is the
Speaker 5: definition of success in this world? When you were talking
Speaker 5: about your grandfather and Johnny Cash. There are people who
Speaker 5: do nothing but h chase the dollar and success. And
Speaker 5: again this is Hollywood and everybody else that grooms this mentality.
Speaker 5: Is what defines a successful man. Is somebody who has
Speaker 5: a you know, seven bedroom house with a new car
Speaker 5: and goes on vacation twice a year. That is a
Speaker 5: successful person. And my vision says, I can't even say
Speaker 5: that word today. A successful person is someone who is
Speaker 5: self reliant, who can provide for their family, who is
Speaker 5: a listener, someone who is a problem solver.
Speaker 6: And that's a big one. That's what we need now.
Speaker 5: Problem solvers who are able to think critically, people who
Speaker 5: are not afraid, who can unabashed just just kind of
Speaker 5: have a conversation with people. And going back to the
Speaker 5: other thing is why don't people know this knowledge? There's
Speaker 5: three types of people. There's the people who are just
Speaker 5: clueless because they're chasing the wrong things, kind of what
Speaker 5: we just discussed. Then there's the people who refuse to listen, who,
Speaker 5: whether it was during COVID or insert the sye up
Speaker 5: if you even just try to have a logical conversation
Speaker 5: with bullet points and say, hey, can I five minutes
Speaker 5: of your time over a coffee. They will shut down
Speaker 5: immediately when you start presenting the information.
Speaker 1: That's I think that's part of the mk ultra too,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 5: And then the third one is just the people who
Speaker 5: think they're so smart that the people who are of
Speaker 5: the Bill Nye, the science guy and Professor Davis. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they just can't even believe you're bringing this evidence up
Speaker 5: to where they won't even listen to you. So that
Speaker 5: is probably ninety percent of the population that fall into
Speaker 5: one of those three categories.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, and that's and you know we talk
Speaker 1: about you know there's Operation paper Clip, Operation fish. Well,
Speaker 1: there's Operation this, there's Operation that. They're real operations, there's
Speaker 1: Operation mk ultru Is. Stuffs really happening, right, But I
Speaker 1: feel like when they shut down like that or they
Speaker 1: don't even seek it out, it's part of the programming,
Speaker 1: and I feel like they're being they call it television
Speaker 1: programming for a reason.
Speaker 7: So, you know, just look at the intro to the
Speaker 7: Big Bang Theory.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't think I've ever watched that show
Speaker 6: one time?
Speaker 1: Oh really, I mean so I did not. My grandmother
Speaker 1: would watch it and I would come over there hold
Speaker 1: her hand, you know, and she loved that show. Well,
Speaker 1: when I tell you, the intro is awful. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like in fourteen million years ago the adventures started,
Speaker 1: they built the pyramids, and it's like it's showing all
Speaker 1: this stuff where it's like it's like literally.
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: To explain, bro. So it's just the big bang theory.
Speaker 1: And then how they try to write off our existence. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm they do it. They do it
Speaker 1: in like twenty seconds. Yep, okay, you're watching it, Okay, cool?
Speaker 6: Wow, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: All started with a big bang bang. Yeah. And the
Speaker 1: funny thing about it is the big bangs and orgasm.
Speaker 1: It's just more sex magic.
Speaker 6: Oh that's I never thought of it that way.
Speaker 7: That's what it is.
Speaker 1: Interesting. It's more sex. It's it's it's it's just more.
Speaker 1: I just it blows my mind, bro. I just can't
Speaker 1: believe it. And it sucks because I always told myself
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't have children, you know, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to bring them into this world, and I did it.
Speaker 1: And now I'm sitting here towing this line, like sitting here,
Speaker 1: when am I going to be able to tell my
Speaker 1: son everything that I know, you know, and uh, I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm pretty knowledgeable, you know. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just it's just like another form of sex magic.
Speaker 1: And it was I think that was a Jewish belief
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Yep, that the world was was
Speaker 1: basically an orgasm, you know, And it's like microcosm macrocosm.
Speaker 5: That's interesting that two things. It ran from like twenty
Speaker 5: seven to twenty nineteen. I had no idea it was
Speaker 5: that long of a run. But the other interesting thing
Speaker 5: is two hundred and seventy nine episodes. And if you
Speaker 5: look at Jamatria the number two seventy nine, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of interesting correlations there. That's why I like you,
Speaker 5: bro Rockefeller equals to seventy Did you know that?
Speaker 7: What was that?
Speaker 5: Rockefeller equals to seventy nine?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really like.
Speaker 7: The numerology of things.
Speaker 1: I've just I've realized how much the numbers do add up,
Speaker 1: just in my life and then and then in life
Speaker 1: around us. There's a guy called see through the Script.
Speaker 7: He's on YouTube.
Speaker 1: He breaks down all the deaths of celebrities, all the
Speaker 1: Faustian bargains with numerology and Jamatria. I think some listeners
Speaker 1: should check him out to h the only thing that
Speaker 1: I I haven't noticed him like mention Jesus so in
Speaker 1: a good way. So I don't know, but he does.
Speaker 1: He does prove in events in people's passing and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. There's always some numerology connected to it like that.
Speaker 1: We like, you know, the word death will coincide with
Speaker 1: the number forty seven or something, and then they died
Speaker 1: on four seven.
Speaker 7: It's just weird.
Speaker 6: Yep, the murder number.
Speaker 5: If you look at the murder by Numbers movie posters,
Speaker 5: you'll see the thirty eight there.
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 7: Team five?
Speaker 1: It really rolls off the tongue, right, Team five four
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. Yep. I'm born April eighteenth, ninety six.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, so what is that? Well, April nineteenth is
Speaker 5: the Feast of Moloch. And if you go back to history,
Speaker 5: April nineteenth to May first, which is the Illuminati, that's
Speaker 5: the reason they.
Speaker 6: Started on May first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the naughty boys.
Speaker 5: Yeah you look, you have Oklahoma City bombing, you have Waco,
Speaker 5: you have four twenty was Columbine April nineteenth seventeen seventy five,
Speaker 5: first shot was heard around the world, right, the Revolutionary War.
Speaker 5: All of these things happened during that time. So that's
Speaker 5: why all of these major events happen in the springtime.
Speaker 5: It's a time for sacrifice because many people believe that
Speaker 5: it's the new year. Most people believe that our new
Speaker 5: year starts April first.
Speaker 1: That's why I actually want to talk to you about
Speaker 1: April fools though. Glad that you believe that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, well I'm assuming that you do.
Speaker 1: So I think that the real calendar is the Hebrew one, right,
Speaker 1: So all these people performing black magic inadvertently, you know,
Speaker 1: doing their zodiac signs and stuff, like they don't even
Speaker 1: know their true horoscope anyway. It's like we're not even
Speaker 1: on the right calendars because it's the Gregorian or Julian calendar.
Speaker 7: I just think that that's really funny.
Speaker 1: Like they're they're performing divination, they're committing a sin, but
Speaker 1: like they're not even doing it correctly. It's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not even in aries. I'm born April eighteenth, but I'm
Speaker 1: not in aries. I would be you know, a pisces
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't know where I don't know what
Speaker 1: the true calendar is can you elaborate on that? You
Speaker 1: did you figure I mean, did you figure out what
Speaker 1: timeline we might be? And you said April first would
Speaker 1: be the actually news. That's what some people believe, but
Speaker 1: I also believe.
Speaker 5: You know, if you look at a turtle shell the
Speaker 5: back of it, there's thirteen.
Speaker 1: I've heard about that, thirteen little.
Speaker 5: Squares and twenty eight marks around it, which is three
Speaker 5: six you know, thirteen times twenty eight is three sixty
Speaker 5: four and then one day for the reset or whatever
Speaker 5: you want to call it. So there was a point
Speaker 5: when it was thirteen months and twenty eight days and
Speaker 5: then one day for reset.
Speaker 6: But they've changed.
Speaker 5: If you research it, you'll see just in the last
Speaker 5: since fifteen no thirteen hundreds, they've altered the calendar several times.
Speaker 5: So and then you know there's a lot of people
Speaker 5: who leave they lied and added seven hundred years to
Speaker 5: a timeline. There's all kinds of theories. It's really hard
Speaker 5: to know when everything's based on lies. By the way,
Speaker 5: the see through the script I put in the show
Speaker 5: notes for people to check out that they have a
Speaker 5: little uh tip of the Captain Bill Cooper on there.
Speaker 6: So they must be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he touches on great stuff. I mean that guy,
Speaker 1: he I don't think he's a Christian. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: That's not what matters. What matters is the way that
Speaker 1: he breaks down events. It breaks down celebrities, breakdowns deaths
Speaker 1: with numerology and jamatria. People need to start researching that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can just put in a name and
Speaker 1: it equals thirty three, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: they'll be you know, it's like they broadcasted, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: thirty three deaths from COVID. You know, they, like you said,
Speaker 1: during events, they use numerology, they use numbers, and its
Speaker 1: just be a good do you want to be armed
Speaker 1: with the truth, So it'd be good to be able
Speaker 1: to break down these things. And he shows a method
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. He breaks down dates,
Speaker 1: He breaks down birthdays, he breaks down death dates, and
Speaker 1: they always end up equaling the same numbers that coincide
Speaker 1: with these people. I don't know, it's very interesting. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you put into the show notes. Thank you, George.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another thing I wanted to touch on is, uh, well,
Speaker 1: I lost my train of thought. Hold on, you can
Speaker 1: just hit me with something and I'll be able to remember.
Speaker 5: Well, since we're we only have about ten minutes left,
Speaker 5: why don't you give us your six silver bullets? The
Speaker 5: things that really convinced you that we were on a
Speaker 5: flat plane versus.
Speaker 6: A spinning ball.
Speaker 7: Six silver bullets.
Speaker 6: I remember one you were very adamant about the Bible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely Bible. And then observation just being able
Speaker 1: to see it. Why the lie, That would be a
Speaker 1: really good one. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: And then in your email you mentioned the sun of
Speaker 6: the moon being out at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sun and the moon being out at the
Speaker 1: same time is definitely a huge one for me.
Speaker 7: The stars being the same.
Speaker 1: I feel like if we were moving one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: miles an hour through an ever expanding universe, we would
Speaker 1: see different constellations.
Speaker 6: You would think.
Speaker 5: So that is something that we don't talk about enough, right,
Speaker 5: Are you telling me that the whole story.
Speaker 7: It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: No, seeing I get frustrated because I'm like, I can't
Speaker 5: believe for you know, almost fifty years, I believe this nonsense.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1: The water like I've always thought about, like when you
Speaker 1: should take a flashlight and like, let's say you're in
Speaker 1: the ocean or a pool and a stark outside, and
Speaker 1: like you look at a flashlight, like when you look up,
Speaker 1: if you had goggles on, it would look like a star.
Speaker 7: That's right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like whether it's bright outside and it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful pool or a beautiful ocean above us, it's like
Speaker 1: even in the nighttime. It's like another proof for me
Speaker 1: that we're in an enclosed system. And then you have
Speaker 1: Bill Knight, a signs guy, saying that we live in
Speaker 1: an enclosed system. We're not going anywhere. He literally there's
Speaker 1: a there's a clip on of him, you can listeners,
Speaker 1: you can watch him on YouTube, and he says, we're
Speaker 1: living in an enclosed system. We can't we can't go anywhere,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So they drop truth nuggets every now and then, like
Speaker 5: when they have to, they got to show their hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not Bill Ny the other guy, oh Neili Grass Tyson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they did the red bull jump in there,
Speaker 5: he's like, there's no way he could have seen the curve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't see.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, my my uncle is doctor. Here's another silver
Speaker 1: bullet just trains that doesn't make any sense. The way
Speaker 1: that they engineer them, that's another silver bullet for me.
Speaker 1: The way that the engineer trains. They don't account for curvature.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they talk about we we should say, we talk
Speaker 5: about planes a lot in their flight paths, but we
Speaker 5: don't talk about trains enough.
Speaker 6: And sonar and radar and signals.
Speaker 5: Like I'm a ham radio guy and they tell me
Speaker 5: in our class that you because you have to take
Speaker 5: a test to get your SEC license, and they tell
Speaker 5: us that, you know, I get my HF radio out,
Speaker 5: I set my antenna up and I clicked the PTT
Speaker 5: button and send my message and it goes up and
Speaker 5: it hits something called the ionosphere, the imaginary clouds, and
Speaker 5: it comes back down. It really took me a long
Speaker 5: time to understand it's probably maybe it's bouncing off the
Speaker 5: firmament and coming down.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's another thing that I did want
Speaker 1: to talk to you about. It's like satellite radio and
Speaker 1: you know, like like my son was showing me how
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a meteor shower soon. There's just stuff
Speaker 1: that like I'll get to my other silver bullet. I
Speaker 1: think I'm one four, I need to get five and
Speaker 1: six done. I just wanted to say real quick that
Speaker 1: I feel like if we had all these great minds
Speaker 1: work together to really figure out what's going on and
Speaker 1: how it is, we could really like just have really
Speaker 1: solid answers. But it's like we're all out here just
Speaker 1: spending for ourselves trying to find proofs and stuff.
Speaker 7: It just really sucks.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm no genius, so I can't really definitively
Speaker 1: say what is satellite radio? What are they hiding it?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: What's the guys it's under you know, because it's weird, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I get my car washed and my serious
Speaker 1: XCM shuts off because I have a building above me,
Speaker 1: like I'm in a hangar, you know, but it's a
Speaker 1: satellite radio. And then like why is the radio not work?
Speaker 1: But then I'm in the mountains and serious XM does work,
Speaker 1: but just don't really know. So yeah, my fifth bullet
Speaker 1: point would probably be I think I'm on five just
Speaker 1: just the blatant worships of Satan and how he would
Speaker 1: definitely want us. It really helps him to make us
Speaker 1: think that we're just animals, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's really easy to give any of your carnal nature
Speaker 1: and your U given to your as the hippies would say,
Speaker 1: your lowest chakra. You know, when you believe that you're
Speaker 1: just you're just a monkey fish frog. You know, when
Speaker 1: you believe that you're just an evolved ape, it's really
Speaker 1: easy to.
Speaker 7: Give in to him.
Speaker 1: And like I said before, you know, ancient history and
Speaker 1: ancient civilization them knowing through cosmology didn't save them from sin.
Speaker 1: I just think that it would help people. It would
Speaker 1: really help people to know, especially this day and age.
Speaker 1: You know, we've got Google watching us, we got Amazon
Speaker 1: watching us, you know, listening to us.
Speaker 7: Alex Is listening yep.
Speaker 1: I think I think people would be happy to know
Speaker 1: that God is also listening. I think it would change
Speaker 1: some of their actions.
Speaker 5: That's very well said, very well said.
Speaker 7: Six bullet point. Ah oh, this one's easy. Definitely just
Speaker 7: the ocean.
Speaker 1: And to coincide with that, I don't know how people
Speaker 1: in Australia are walking upside down right now. There's a
Speaker 1: new commercial the Kangaroos like hopping. He's on the he's
Speaker 1: on the he's on the bottom of the ball.
Speaker 7: Just doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's the stuff like these bullet points that you brought
Speaker 1: up for me to for me to say, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's what really helps you remember Oh wait, no, this
Speaker 1: is true.
Speaker 5: We watch on I think it's called Pluto TV, like
Speaker 5: Old Prices, Right, that'll be something we'll just kind of
Speaker 5: pass the time with to remember yesteryear. But there's an
Speaker 5: Australian commercial on now, this company out of Australia, and
Speaker 5: the entire thirty second commercial they're upside down and he's like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm getting dizzy and he's like doing this whole the
Speaker 5: entire thirty seconds, and me and my wife look at
Speaker 5: each other.
Speaker 6: We're just rolling. I'm like, this is truth in plain
Speaker 6: sight and most people don't.
Speaker 7: Even know yet.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad your wife believes you. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: because like my significant others, like she believes me.
Speaker 7: And it's just that's a tough thing.
Speaker 1: I know that some of the people that have been
Speaker 1: on here, I've listened and it's like they haven't came
Speaker 1: around yet, or like their mom hasn't came around yet,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's just it's really nice to find
Speaker 1: people in your face physically that like literally you know,
Speaker 1: because we have moments all the time where you know,
Speaker 1: like we're watching a show or this or that, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just funny. Like I was watching What Are the Rings?
Speaker 1: And she was like tempted with the ring Galadriel. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've watched that movie, and she goes,
Speaker 1: I will be as strong as the foundations of the Earth,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like, oh, okay, mister Peter Jackson,
Speaker 1: like that's not in the books, Like like how much
Speaker 1: do you know being a director?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm sure he's a part of the club. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So like, explain to me, George, what are foundations? If
Speaker 1: it's a ball, right, what would the foundations of the
Speaker 1: Earth be? I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just I don't think I've ever taken the time
Speaker 5: to research his work. I know he redid the King
Speaker 5: Kong guy, but I'll have to go look and see
Speaker 5: if he's Obviously he's part of the club. You don't
Speaker 5: get to be that high in Hollywood without being part
Speaker 5: of the club. But which club is that's the big question.
Speaker 1: I just it's not really like Peter Jackson whatever, It's
Speaker 1: just you're you're an intelligent guy. I just I wanted
Speaker 1: you to agree with me on just that. Absolutely, What
Speaker 1: are the foundations of the earth if.
Speaker 6: You're on a spinning ball hurtling through space.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand that. And you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: it's like, Satan works in opposites. So what's the opposite
Speaker 1: of the Bible and what it says that we live on?
Speaker 6: You know, everything is inverted.
Speaker 1: You know, who walk backwards, talk backwards? You know you
Speaker 1: got you got the Led Zeppelin song Stairway to Heaven,
Speaker 1: and you know, here's here's the massweet Satan, the one
Speaker 1: whose little path will make me sad. His power is Satan.
Speaker 1: He gives those with him six sixty six. You know,
Speaker 1: that's what Stairway to Heaven is. Some of the backmasking
Speaker 1: is yep. So it's like, and uh, Jimmy Page bought
Speaker 1: Aleistair Crowley's house. You know. So it's like, who works
Speaker 1: in opposites? And what's the opposite of what the Bible
Speaker 1: says when you read Genesis. It's what they're trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, pass off as the truth.
Speaker 6: Now, so indeed, we're about out of time.
Speaker 5: I actually have another one at the bottom of I
Speaker 5: wanted to really quick if you could, in two minutes,
Speaker 5: if you could, because one thing you mentioned and I
Speaker 5: wanted you to just kind of how Enoch, how you
Speaker 5: came about it, the Book of Enoch, and how it.
Speaker 6: What it meant to you was, you know, flat Earth.
Speaker 1: So the Book of Enoch was for me the missing
Speaker 1: piece in the Bible. And it's it's just like all
Speaker 1: the other truths I mentioned. It's like like I have
Speaker 1: a copy here, and I just get kind of sad
Speaker 1: because it's like there's so many like almost every church
Speaker 1: besides the Ethiopian one doesn't put it in the Bible.
Speaker 1: So you kind of like take a step back and
Speaker 1: you're like, is it real? Is it?
Speaker 7: Am I supposed to subscribe to this?
Speaker 1: But I will say when the Honeymoon face happened, I
Speaker 1: mean it was just unbelievable. I hope that that it
Speaker 1: is a great explanation. Like do I still believe in it? Yes,
Speaker 1: I still believe in it. But it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's just so true, kind of like the
Speaker 1: whole belief system we're talking about in every single segment
Speaker 1: of this podcast. It's like it's so true and people
Speaker 1: are so suspended in lines, it's like you kind of
Speaker 1: you dine it out it a little bit. Yep, not
Speaker 1: every day I'm grounded in my truth almost daily, but
Speaker 1: there's just days where.
Speaker 7: I'm just like ah.
Speaker 1: But the Book of Enoch meant a lot to me,
Speaker 1: especially the way that he talks about the chambers of
Speaker 1: the Sun, I mean, the chambers of the wind, how
Speaker 1: the how the sun comes and goes, you know, And
Speaker 1: it just brings a very spiritual aspect to how the
Speaker 1: world is working right now. And I just think the
Speaker 1: truth is stranger than fiction.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 5: It talks about the four entrances, and we have four winds.
Speaker 5: That's why let the four winds blow, as they say.
Speaker 5: Luke man, it's been great. We have covered so much
Speaker 5: in naughety minutes. It's incredible. I'd like to have you
Speaker 5: back sometime, but we're going to run for now. But
Speaker 5: before we do, I'd like to give you the last word.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say you guys that just stay
Speaker 1: vigilant your adversary. The devil prows around like a roaring lion,
Speaker 1: seeking to whom he may devour. And you have something
Speaker 1: that's worth more than the world. That's why he tempted
Speaker 1: Jesus with every kingdom, the prince of the power of
Speaker 1: the year. He wants to take that breast from your body,
Speaker 1: and he wants you just to just stay vigilant, to
Speaker 1: stay grounded in the truth, don't give up the fight,
Speaker 1: the good fight. And I'm proud of you for seeking that,
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of you for being who you are.
Speaker 1: And I'm thankful that you listen today. And God bless
Speaker 1: you and your family.
Speaker 5: Hey man, brother, thank you so much for your time
Speaker 5: and you brought a lot of not knowledge to the table.
Speaker 5: And again, thanks for everything. And to all our listeners,
Speaker 5: thank you for your continued support and we appreciated. God
Speaker 5: bless you everybody. Have a great week. And until we
Speaker 5: meet again, my friends, we will see it.
Speaker 10: I know it's been a struggle. I know you've had spain.
Speaker 10: I know you feel tired, held down all the way. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I know you feel more, you smile, ain't the same.
Speaker 4: That's all the way going from you feel like you've
Speaker 4: lost your way.
Speaker 8: Don't give it.
Speaker 1: No, don't give it. But never is home.
Speaker 3: Don't let call the primise. It ain't done yet.
Speaker 1: He's got a lad. Why it's away?
Speaker 3: Time got up? May we come? Why?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 3: God up call?
Speaker 10: I can see the streets inside you childs are putting
Speaker 10: up five oh You're stronger than any thing you are. Yeah,
Speaker 10: you're gonna be all right. You're accepting a dead found.
Speaker 6: Beautiful.
Speaker 1: You're shoving ride. Yeah, you're living, breathing, moveing.
Speaker 7: You can hold your head a pie. Don't give up, No,
Speaker 7: don't give in, nevertheless.
Speaker 11: Hold, don't let gone on the primes and ain't done
Speaker 11: and his god up letting wan from way down, the
Speaker 11: God of me recall, don't give up, No, don't give
Speaker 11: in you never love home, don't let go on the primis.
Speaker 11: It ain't NiFe, It's worth living. What's a way down?
Speaker 3: The God of baby Colt? Why sur pray down? The
Speaker 3: god Tavy cold? Oh yeah, what's a pray down? The
Speaker 3: God of baby Colt? Oh yeah, got the TV cold?
Speaker 9: Oh, don't give up, No, don't give in?
Speaker 4: Never's song?
Speaker 3: Do they go?
Speaker 8: The primis?
Speaker 9: I mean as God, I'm saying, wats the god of
Speaker 9: if it comes, and don't give up no dog giving,
Speaker 9: but never hold, don't let go of the crowds getting done.
Speaker 4: Love is worth living.
Speaker 8: Watch and God of any cols, Oh, the God of
Speaker 8: need cos.
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