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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlem and then welcome back to tres

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told you. I am your host trast now, and yes

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I'm here. I missed a month. I'm sorry. Like I said,

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my goal when I got back was trying to do

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this at least monthly, one episode a month, but that

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kind of passed me by. But I am I trying to

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another one that's up this month to make up for it.

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I don't know, we'll see. Life is busy, obviously, lots

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of stuff. Just in general. My life is busy, personal life,

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always work, always stuff going on. The girls, all their dancers,

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syles are going to and soccer is coming in so

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soon I'll have a lot more time. But yeah, podcasting

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is busy. Got a busy month, come on. That's why

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I'm doing trest told you because usually if people don't know,

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I think I said this is the Tras told me

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to try to live myself to like three casts a week,

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and this week all I did was side quests, So

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I was like, okay, hopefully have some time there. Whoa,

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now here's a funny thing. Now I have some more

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ranting to do because we're gonna talking about Superman has

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a final trailer today, we're gonna talk about this is

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something I've been wanting to a little bit. I meant

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to last week, trying to before last week or whenever

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it came out. I don't know, but some early tracking

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maybe questionable, but early tracking is out for Fantastic, for

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dress Growth and Superman, so we're gonna talk about that,

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and then just a quick little talk about Robert Egger's

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making some uh some Christmas Carol and the Saw franchise,

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because I uh, I thought I wanted to do on

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newscast I was on and if the boys still want

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to talk about some point. I didn't give it to

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Kirkland and Taylor this week because the Kirkland's not really

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seen them, so he has not much added. And then

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by time he gets to delln tail Olds is okay,

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I think, and I think I have a bit more

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ranting to do than they might. But they're perfectly you know,

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able to talk about or they called me on airs,

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you bastard. But yeah, there's lots going on this week

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in the geek first realm. What's going on the next

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few months? I think, let me put my calendar here.

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I think soon I know Taylor's records some let's see.

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Oh yeah, soon, there's some stuff going on. We're doing

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our next half night, which is Netflix and Fail which

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I still need to organize and find a movie. Now,

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this is what I keep looking at. Anyways, lots of

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ten year stuff is going to be popping off here soon,

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as we promised. August ninth is our ten year, ten

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hour stream. You can make that stream longer and unlock

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certain benefits spy subscribing, Patreon, upping your tier. We'll get

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to that closer to day. As far as the tears

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and the time slots of okay, we might go fifteen

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minutes if you become a Phase one Patreon, phase two thirty,

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you know whatever, it may be, right, we'll figure that

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out as we did last year. So lots of good

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stuff coming up. So there's two things. One, if you're

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watching the video, you might know us where am I.

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I've been waiting to do a podcast out here for

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quite a while. I've many times wanted to do the

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gimmick out here, especially in spring. It was nice. I'm

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on the patio, my patio right now, but during the

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giar there's a baseball field over to my left. You

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cannot see that it's constantly has people playing, so never

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can during the day right now, during the day would

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be too hot. And then there's been other times where

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I've wanted to do it at nighttime but it got

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really chilly here because the good thing Jesus Christ, if

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this stream just fucking ends, it's because there's lightning going on.

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it's probably the most riskiest time to do it. At

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one point, I wasn't sure if tonight was gonna work out.

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Oh whoa, I'm gonna stop wowing now, but I love

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out here just watching lightning. It was two hours. I say,

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oh my goodness. You know, I don't know, just like

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that type of stuff. Hopefully there's a test there's two

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shouldn't happen that much. It's a pretty not busy road

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and that's why I picked it now. And even they

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go by, it's you just won. Every once in a while,

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watch there'll be a fucking drag race or something, nurse

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and kids running around. But of course lightning look like

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cargoes by. When I say they barely come by, it's

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fucking ten to fifteen. What's going on? But I digress.

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So the wind just gets, you know, whipping, It gets

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pretty chilly, but right now it's God. We've been rocking

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some thirty two degrees celsius type of days and it's

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been it has been hot. But yeah, so I'm out

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here on the deck trying this out. And yeah, we're

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gonna talk about a lot of things today. Check out

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later on this week Taylor and kirkcular are reviewing How

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to Train Your Dragon. They also did a newscast that

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I did cameo on from this very deck, so you

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can check that out. Yeah, our entire Superman retrospective is

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upworked out a lot. It's about Superman today, but we

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root everything from Superman to Superman returns. That was tons

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of fun just seeing you know, what things were like

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all the way to that, because I have a good

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memory of one and two but not of anything else.

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So that was fun to revisit that. And then currently

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the Phase five or Phase two patrons and up we've

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done twenty eight days later and twenty eight weeks later.

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Obfusely next year, next year, next week we're reviewing twenty

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eight years later, so that'll be lots of fun and yeah,

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lots of big reviews, predictions, newscasts starting. Like I said,

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mid June is a lot of our ten year content

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than July is just full of it. Been watching some

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nineteen ninety four movies. Watch The Crow this week, watch Edwood.

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Don't want to share my thoughts, but I have one letter,

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Boss because I just want to log them. But that's

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been fun and yeah, and Taylor supposedly is revealing our

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attacker this Friday. People have asked me about it. I

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have nothing to do with this. As I've said, I

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was attacked in the past. I would want to fight,

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but after having the twins, I sit back. I don't.

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I can't be a part of any of this mumbo jumbo.

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risk this type of stuff. So I wish to tay

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you the best of luck. But for people asking and

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even him, he said, we want to confront this attacker.

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but Taor is going to be doing that. But what

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I do have interested is in talking about Superman. Everybody

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But yeah, let's talk about this. So today tickets went

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on sale. Man, it's been a whirlwin a little bit

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because I think I talked about this a couple of

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weeks ago and Weekly Geek, where you know, I try

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to I online, I try to go in waves of

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when I'm on because I'm always the people don't know this.

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I imagine most podcasters that do this, or people to

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write news blogs, et cetera. You just have notifications on accounts, right,

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and that's what I try to do. I tried to,

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uh turn the vibration off of my phone, but sometimes

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my phone a lot. So now I've switched to like

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the noise and I try my best. If I'm not

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at work, that just goes off. I leave it. It's

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completely gone. But that's the best way. But there's times

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where I scroll. I've always said there's a few times

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the bus, then I'm scrolling that. That's what it's for,

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you know that that's to kill some time. Most of

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hey key for ten, you're coming up very happy that

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us four still all together. So we and we know

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you guys have said that before too, like, oh, we

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like you guys. There's a time we had lots of

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guests on and in the survey I was like, hey,

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go back to just like dude, mostly you guys, you know,

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I understand that, right. But so today I was scrolling

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on self, great excuse me. Got those very excited. Going

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what they've seen so far. I think Ellie might like it.

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near the end she was feeling it. But she likes

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those big fantasy and superheroes, Like right now she's fucking

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just Binge and Spidey and friends. So it's just she's

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starting to like this stuff. And that's stuff that I

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one to watch it. But anyway, so we're gonna see that,

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and it's exciting to see. Uh, let's see s bubbs

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man the chair in the late night for me, I know,

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and this is Spobs might be the only person in

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the chat tonight because I didn't promote this. I didn't

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a chair and might give it. Co host says one

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of my favorite podcasts, I started listening to the Pandemic.

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it was just different. I didn't enjoy it at all anymore. Really,

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one of my favorite podcasts I started listening to In

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they went back in person, it was just different. I

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did enjoy it at all anymore. That's interesting as pubs

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because I felt like, as we we'll talk about that

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for our ten year, but like you know this, how

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probably when you started listening, we were all virtual when

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twenty I guess yeah, for five years we were in

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person and myself and Taya or not BeFAN of that.

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we Luckily, the core people we still talk to a lot,

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like people like Hansy or like Carl that are like

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really way back like twenty fifteen, sixteen oh April, she's

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like seventeenth somewhere there, like those people. Luckily, a lot

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of the people that we've spoken with a lot or

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have been on after nine we didn't lose. So that's

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great because we love having those in the community because

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you know, they're fun people. Hancy's a criminal though, so

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that's the only name and the thing. But I think

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we did, like probably lose some people because everyone always said,

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like that was, you know, such a good dynamics. That's

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interesting that they went back in person. He didn't like

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that because that's crazy because there's certain things too, like

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I used to like talking about that. There's a I

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used to watch. I still listen to him, Christian Harlof.

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and that's the same thing where I listened to him

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depending on the guest now because it's just his channel

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and he has different people on every day and sometimes

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like not that that person, but same thing he did

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like a movie trivia thing, and he even admitted that

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when COVID happened, it went completely online and I kind

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of killed the show because just the vibe was gone.

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it was just like oh me and Tanna Kirkle in

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a room didn't have that vibe. So that's interesting. But

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some Scroll Day Final stuff you seen popworm buckets, all

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those things. And I will say back to what I

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when I would see some of my DC people talk, uh,

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because my algorithms definitely coded that way with certain people

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I follow. It was but where's the marketing? Where's that?

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You can't say that now? Superman's fucking everywhere probably too much,

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stuff or do news, because that's where I am, like,

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vocations on for a couple news sites and everything like that,

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and I do for James gunn for Twitter, right because

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it's not that I need to know what James Gounnas

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doing all the time, but there was and even less

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so maybe after Superman I should probably I could probably stop.

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like lots of updates or you know, debunks or whatever,

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especial when I first got there. So I do still

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have no notifications on for him, and he's been tweeted out.

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I thought, like even and I'm gonna say it's a

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bad thing, right because I don't I think they should attack, attack, attack.

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I think it's just people like myself that are in

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the bubbles. Okay, I've gotten too much. I'm not sick

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of Superman, but it's okay. I don't need to see

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anything more of Superman. I got it. But it felt

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like this week was very much like, Hey, for the

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next few, you know, weeks to a month and a half,

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we're gonna tweet all this stuff. Let's say we have

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three works, three weeks worth of content and we're gonna

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post that all over. It's felt like we've gone that

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and just because today's Wednesday, in just three days, it's

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been nuts. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing

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because I think DC needs that, you know, that feeling

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of like you can't miss it, needs that feeling of

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you have to see it, you can't miss and in

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case anybody is passes by, they'll see the popcorn bucket,

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they'll see the trust fall, they'll see the interviews. I

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don't think it's badly, but it's so much I can't

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really keep up on. Like I actually want to watch

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that Fendango interview with Perry Nimrov because like I like

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her and a few clips i've seen it, like look good,

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but she's like all happening at once, So that's interesting

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that it's going that route. But I don't think it's

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a bad thing. And it's funny because like they have

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the same guy who did Barbie, right, but even if

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Barbie didn't feel like that, don't know what, And probably

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just because I'm in the bubble right, because it's not

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always my algorithm that way. It's multiple people that are,

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you know, tweeting about Tombo. Lots people tweeting too much

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about it. But I'm never gonna say that because people

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are excited, right, so go ahead, have your fun. But

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we're in full blitz and we're literally a month away,

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so it's interesting to see got some people get in

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the early screenings, which they announced Fandago said's the best

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pre sales for the early screenings early access screens tomorrow

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or imagine Friday, we'll probably get some sort of note

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of if they beat F four. I can't remember what

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was I think Fandaego said like day one sales for

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F four, right, so we'll get some tracking there, and

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I imagine it will, just because I feel more hype

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from that, even though I talked to people eating Kyle

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who will get back from and do and stuff like that.

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He was over this weekend and so you always seen

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super Mays got like, I just I don't really have

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any interest of seeing like another Superman and kind of

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we've already done that. And then they're like, oh, what

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about f Ford. It's like, ah, yeah, not really, like

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you know, all the other ones sucked. I'm like, oh

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it's different, yeah, I know. And I like that's a

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general like I'm not going around talking to people like that,

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but I haven't bumped into anybody in my normal life

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that's been like I can't wait for Superman. I can't

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wait for Fantastic four other than my kids, right, which

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I have to decide if I'm taking my kid's Fantastic four.

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I'm like back and forth not. I think it's gonna

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be scary. That's fine. They've watched all the rings just

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like they can enjoy it. But I think in mind,

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I think the like Franklin and the Thing and stuff.

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So we'll see. But yeah, so far, that's good for

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the early access. And obviously there's lots of tracking going on,

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so we're gonna talk about that. But we're also gonna

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talk about they released a full trailer, which I was

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not expecting as expecting a teaser the whole thirty seconds.

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You know, you know, tickets on sale now this state.

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But I'll pull it up. I'm not gonna do the

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full geek first breakdown and whatnot because I am alone here,

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but I'll pull up some shots and talk about it.

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I thought it was another good showing. I don't think

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it was. I don't know. I don't know if it

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was as good as the second one, but I think

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this was a good I don't know. This is a

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very basic like I'm of two minds. To me, this

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is a basic. Hey, this is Superman, this is the movie,

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and pretty much it's Superman versus Lex and a few

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things of the world. I think the positives of that

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is here's the basic, Like, you don't need to catch

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up on X, Y and Z. You don't need to

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see these movies. This doesn't look like it's part of

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a bigger universe per se. Of like, of course there's

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other heroes and characters, but I mean the sense like,

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oh you gotta see everything to understand two men. No.

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But then the negative is people could just look and

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be like, Okay, it's just Superman again. Now there's lots

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of people that are younger, it could be their first time.

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But still, if it's just okay, villain really hates Superman

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and Superman's gonna fight him, cool, what's new? That's what

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I liked about the second trailer, and that's why I

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think that one's the best so far. And I won't

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see anything more really other than the teaser spouse backs.

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But the second one was obviously hitting on similar themes

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that we've gone. Man still in BBS, but a slight difference,

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and I like the lowest and dynamic. But I think

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this is a good Hey, tickets are in sale, now

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get to crack and s pub says, I still have

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not vacations on for Gun as well. Same with Matt Reeves.

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I never had Matt Reeves. I feel like because Matt

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reeves whether it was the discorder GA, I would just

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get notified right away, especially when he's dropping those gifts. Man,

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I hope we get those casting gifts again, and I

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could just just be feeling it. I suppose there's still

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a few seats left for early Superman screening me, so

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I might go to that, you bastard. Maybe it's because

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your life's busy, s bubs. We didn't get any here

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in Canada, you know, So the fact you're like, well,

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you know there's a few left, I might go. You

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got the option, I would just fucking go. I'm not

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even big Superman fan, you know. It's like seeing things early,

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and I've got to seen anything early since really COVID.

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I think Bullet Training was it. But we used to

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got so many screenings in Vancouver and Seattle, like that's

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how we saw a civil war and Wonder Woman. Oh

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there's another Spider verse. There's another one too, where we

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in the Givers are we're seeing lots of stuff early

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but or the beginning era before COVID. But in speak

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of this trailer, let's see here. I won't have any

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sound on it because I'm alone here, so I don't know.

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That's my reasoning. Let's see here. So, yeah, you got

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a building crashing? Cool? Yeah, let's see. Can I pull

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a different way? I'm trying to make it that I

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get Okay, perfect this shot We've talked at four great

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shot of Superman just in there, you know, in this

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whatevers move that over here. Okay. Uh So it's so yeah,

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beginning very much similar. You know, Lex gets into the

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fortless solitudes. So it's nice to finally meet him, which

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is interesting. He says that it could just be like

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an over you know, like just in general meeting him.

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But I don't think they actually show any scenes of

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Superman and Lex together, which is interesting. So and this

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time this is a scene where which I am appreciating.

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This is where I said, it's just very basic. It's

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just Lex saying, hey, I'm gonna kill you kill a

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reporter friend and oh the pill it raised you, I'm

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gonna kill him too. I think obviously that there's because

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I disagree this statement, many people go, well, you know,

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the best villains they have mode of you understand them. No,

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I think those can be great characters, but just in

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the even the horror realm, right, like Freddy Krueger. What's

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his motives? He's a fucking sick psychopath, you know, a

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joker in the dark Knight, Like, if you can achieve

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a great performance and add a few little wrinkles, especially

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with someone that's a human like Lex Luthor of why

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they're doing this, then sure they can just be evil.

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And that's really which I'm not sure which alig or

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he's gonna go for here, but we've seen this already

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with the second Tary. I just talking about being an alien.

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He doesn't belong here. He speaks about him like, oh

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he's not human, but just like he's been raised, like

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he talks about like lesser than like they are, like

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Superman is a lower than dirt to him, much like

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people would talk about many other people about whether it's

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a different sexual orientation or different culture or different race,

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whatever country they're from. We see that all the time,

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and I think, to me, I could be wrong, but

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I think what Gun's trying to do here is I

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think Lex might appear to be you know, I've always

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pitched him like he should be the rock, like the

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rock out very much outside has this big persona and

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very inviting, but then inside there might be this darkness.

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Not saying the Rock has the darkness. I'm just saying, like,

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like his outside persona should be Lex Luthor or should

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be the Rock. Maybe not with the Maui dancing and

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the Tila, but just his presence, right, welcoming, trustworthy, et cetera.

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And he might do that when he is outside of

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whatever these rooms are. He's got a lot of rooms.

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But I think what I enjoy and this is where

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some people are go, Oh, it might be one note,

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but I think what's needed here is James Gunn said

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he's making a movie about Superman, who's all about being

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in a good about trying to be good in a

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world that does not value being good. Right, So I

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think if you were to have Lex big, well, I

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hate you Superman, but it's kind of for x Y

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and Z. I think that's one thing that's different than

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Man of Steel and BBS, particularly where they're hitting on

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00:21:50,279 --> 00:21:54,039
some similar issues about should a Superman exist with Lex

470
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,559
Luthor in that I don't like he of course, like

471
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,599
I maybe I'm wrong. I don't watch the movie over over.

472
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,640
It could be wrong, but I don't feel like he

473
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,839
like hates Superman. I think it's more he hates the

474
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,759
idea of this greater being like this past. And also

475
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,759
that's what Lex says in this trailer too, right, like

476
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,160
those powerful being in the world. But to me, that's

477
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,519
more in a sense of well, this there's something. It's

478
00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:19,559
similar to what Batman feels like, this is something so

479
00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,160
powerful we gotta take it out right, Like he has

480
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,519
that quote about like you know something about all powerful.

481
00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:28,200
No fuck, it is a good line in there. I

482
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,720
can't remember what it is. But if someone's all good,

483
00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:33,920
they can't be too all powerful, or if they're powerful, they

484
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,160
can't be all good something. I'm butchering it, but to

485
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,839
me that is its Lex is on more of a

486
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,160
moral high ground, where this just feels like a personal

487
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119
high ground, whether it's people are talking about Superman not

488
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,599
Lex Luthor in the city, or it is just like

489
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,119
a this Lex Luthor is a racist piece of shit,

490
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,160
let's just call it out that way. Where I could

491
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,519
be wrong, but I don't think it's like Lex and

492
00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:59,400
BBS is more political and more power hungry, where this

493
00:22:59,519 --> 00:23:01,920
does just feel like for some reason in the world,

494
00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:04,359
we know somebody or you've heard something that's like, yeah,

495
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,079
I don't like this person's X, Y and Z. We're

496
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,240
in Pride month. You know, it's something like that where

497
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,519
people if they dislike gay people or trans people. I've

498
00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:15,519
never understood it. I've never understood It's the same way

499
00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:19,759
I review religious people right where I'm oh God, I

500
00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:21,599
can't remember the term. But I'm somebody that does not

501
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,599
believe in anything as far as religion goes. I believe

502
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,759
in certain things that have certain thoughts of that, Oh,

503
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:29,559
this could be real, this could be not real. But

504
00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:31,759
that's where I am. I'm I'm open to a lot

505
00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:33,680
of things. I'm not just a closed book because there's

506
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,279
many There's an issue in the world, and there's cases

507
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:38,960
for a point A and point b, and until we

508
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,480
figure them out, I can't just go, you know what,

509
00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:42,839
this is what it is, and maybe that's faith, right,

510
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,319
But what I appreciate for, you know, people that are

511
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,119
religious and go to church and whatever they believe, I'm

512
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,079
perfectly fine with them doing whatever they do as long

513
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,319
as they don't impact my life in a negative way

514
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:56,319
and impact others in a negative way. To me, you

515
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,200
can be the whitest, straightest motherfucker, and if you're an

516
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,039
asshole or or a criminal, whatever, then you can face

517
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:06,559
the consequences. And that's where again, and that's where it's

518
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:09,240
like someone being awful, right if someone I have no

519
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,759
problem like I've gay friends, I've transfriends, but it's like

520
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,279
I've never had I've never understood like that aspect, all right,

521
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,599
of okay, if a man knows a man, what does

522
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,640
it matter to you? You know, that's where obviously sometimes

523
00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:23,839
the Bible comes in religion, But in the most part

524
00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:25,920
for me, it's like, what is that change about your day?

525
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,519
Take that out, Like how does that actually impact you?

526
00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:30,000
But we know there are people in the world that

527
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,279
for whatever reason, they're gonna try to justify it. It

528
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:35,200
does impact them, and they're the worst. And that's why

529
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,920
I think they're trying that James gun is trying to

530
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000
do with this to show, hey, this is lex Luthor.

531
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,039
He's a piece of shit. It's not like, oh, he

532
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,160
doesn't like Superman because it's justified because Superman did this,

533
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,079
which I feel like with Lexic kind of tried to

534
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:52,400
do right in BVS in Superman, like the original Nasty

535
00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:54,400
Superman's just kind of in the way he's a nuisance

536
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,799
and he wants to like do stuff of real Estateia

537
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:59,359
as other schemes, like it's not directly at because of

538
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,119
Superman just happens to be around So and I think

539
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Lexus or So. I think Holt's gonna deliver that fantastically.

540
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,519
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I

541
00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:09,319
don't think there's anything wrong with having something's just a

542
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,480
pure bad guy. You Still, that's where I think you

543
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:13,960
have to do like this where you get a great

544
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,440
actor when it is someone like and even then they

545
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920
have the reasons, but let's just say like the Dark

546
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,319
Elf and Thord Dark World or Malekith right, he's just

547
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:26,440
like he's bad, wants power, wants to destroy things, and

548
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:29,680
not a good performance, not anything fun or flashy. That's

549
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,119
when it's tough. That's when you're gonna get a Heath Ledger,

550
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,359
you know, something where it's like, Okay, this is a

551
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,759
character that really has normal or compass, will do anything

552
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,240
they want, but we're getting a hell for performance. And

553
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,039
I think Holt, I'm not gonna say he's going to

554
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,440
be Heath Ledger's joke or I'm not putting them on that.

555
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:49,279
No one, no one has reached that level anywhere. I

556
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,200
know people are gonna say I'm biased in the Batman guy.

557
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,400
I don't think there's any performance in the world still

558
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,119
that reaches what he Fledger did there. And I think

559
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,119
Holt's gonna be a great lex here and really represents

560
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,200
some good stuff here. Get the shot again that they

561
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:05,640
love showing a Superman hurt uh just laxly. He just

562
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,200
looks like such a piece of shit, And I think

563
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,119
hol It's gonna do a great job at portraying that.

564
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240
There's multiple roles. He's done that before, so again, and

565
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,799
that's the good thing with this trailer. We've seen some

566
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,920
things before, so it wasn't just a spam of entirely

567
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,559
new stuff. I don't need to see the whole movie

568
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:23,440
before we get into there. Let's hear this Kayaju and

569
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:26,720
looking forward that like in this flying stuff, there's other

570
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:29,680
flying stuff later that looks a little if this right

571
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,599
here when it's like the wide out shots of him

572
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,559
flying around, they said they're going for top of Maverick.

573
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,720
I see that. I also see like a bit of

574
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,720
Neo in there, which I loved because everyone after Matrix

575
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:43,559
was like, oh, little Chewsky should make Superman, and you know,

576
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,119
maybe they should have. But we didn't get there. Obviously,

577
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,599
there is like people are talking about this shaw. He'll

578
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:52,720
see if I can pose it where Superman is getting

579
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:56,200
keep visioned by another individual, where they have some sort

580
00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:02,279
of armor and longer hair. I don't know how much

581
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:05,559
I want to talk about that. I think if you

582
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:08,759
don't know what's going on with this character, don't look

583
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:11,160
any further. And if you do, then I think it

584
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,400
kind of confirmed some things we heard like years ago.

585
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,599
And that's the thing with the Hollywood nowadays, right, like

586
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,400
things just leak. I remember, God, Civil War came out

587
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,440
in twenty sixteen, and I'm pretty sure in like twenty fourteen,

588
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:25,400
I think someone that's like scooped, like, yeah, the main

589
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,680
big reveal is gonna be like Bucky killed Iron Man's parents.

590
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,880
That's gonna drive him part, Like it's really tough to

591
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,079
get some stuff to stay secretive. Right, So, but if

592
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,759
that thing is true, I'm looking very excited. This shot

593
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,640
is great. I think it's the lighting I used as

594
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,680
a thumbnail a couple days ago, or the day go

595
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,799
for Weekly Geek. I don't know, because I'm not a

596
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:46,240
Superman guy. I don't know if this happened animated stuff

597
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,440
or comics. I'm not saying I dislike it. I'm just

598
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,279
getting used to the idea of I'm guessing that he

599
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:56,200
has a bunch of like red around his eyes. I'm

600
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,640
getting used to the idea of his heat vision being

601
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,440
so hot him. I'm completely fine that it's a fucking

602
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:04,279
laser being pretty much come out of your head. It

603
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,240
might do something. It's just something I've never seen before,

604
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,519
and for me, I kind of hope because it has

605
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,680
like an an odd look to it, like d looks

606
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,200
like he's sunburned a little bit. What I don't mind

607
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,240
or like it is if it is in certain moments

608
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,039
where he is going crazy with it. I don't need

609
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,200
every time he use the heart the heat vision for

610
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,319
his eyes to be, you know, looking like he didn't

611
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,480
use sp forty or whatnot. Right, So this shot, oh,

612
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:31,759
this one's tough for me. So it's him and Crypto

613
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:33,720
fly up. That's all great, Like, I'm fine for Crypto.

614
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,000
That's what they're doing. It's something when we talk about

615
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:38,440
stuff they haven't done before. Yes, James Gunn has done this,

616
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,880
but we've not seen Superman with his dog or whoever's dog.

617
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640
It's gonna be. So it's then they fly up and

618
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,319
they fight this guy and he stops like Crypto like

619
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,160
takes his helmet off, and then Superman goes up and

620
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,480
punches him mid air. Right. Some of this really close

621
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:57,720
slow most stuff doesn't look the greatest. I agree with

622
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,319
people peep make the comparison. It's the same cinema tag there.

623
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:06,000
It has moments of flashisms, which I still like the flash,

624
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:10,000
but there is some not looking, not good looking stuff

625
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,960
in that movie. This shot, I'm of two minds because

626
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,079
I don't like it visually, but I like the idea

627
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,519
of he punches this guy and then his teeth hit

628
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,720
the frame and even make a noise, right, and I

629
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:24,440
think this sequence gonna be a big high I just

630
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,440
pause here and he's a slum now where I think

631
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,279
these are the Raptors. It's like Lex's army or something

632
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:31,039
like that, where it's a bunch of them in the

633
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:34,119
sky and Superman just going crazy on them. I like

634
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,440
that idea because that idea of Crypto flies up, take

635
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,039
the helmet, Superman punches them and then his teeth hit

636
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,799
the you know the screen that is a comic book

637
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:46,960
panel there, right. But at the same time, not everything

638
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,079
can transfer from a comic panel to it, And I

639
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:50,720
don't mean it's a little panel. Maybe it is, but

640
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,519
I just like it looks like a panel you would

641
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,480
see in the actual movie. Though. It as far as

642
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,160
just this scene right here looks like a little like, eh, like,

643
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,960
it looks almost too video gaming, and not the sense

644
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,079
of the action, just the sense of what it looks like.

645
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,920
And that's always tough, right because it's a superhero. It's

646
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,079
Man flying, but particularly this shot, because he's flying, you

647
00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:16,279
could have him standing there. It still might look funny, right,

648
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920
and also too like, I don't know what these raptors,

649
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,759
if it's just the armor or if they're like more

650
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,680
powered mutes or whatnot, or humana humans whatever it may be.

651
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:28,680
I could be wrong. I guess he's holding back his punch.

652
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,240
I just feel like if Superman were to punch a

653
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,119
regular human being, that person's head would go flying like miles.

654
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,359
But I digress. Cool shot here of it looks like

655
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,279
Metropolis is being parted or something like that. I like

656
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:47,839
the look of the city here. I enjoy that shot there.

657
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,519
So Metropolis and uh, we gotta look at Guy Gardner.

658
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,359
Lots of green going on, so I'm sure this is

659
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,240
when guys like put like a big like Superman like

660
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,039
or a big light green lantern shield around them or

661
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:01,839
something like that. And I know people have talked about

662
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200
if people don't know, there's a classic comic panel where

663
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,319
Guy Gardner who's just known as like a regular piece

664
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:10,720
of shit instead of a bitch all the time character,

665
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,720
and Patman just cold clocks him and punches him. I

666
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:16,559
don't want them to do this here one because I

667
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:19,119
want my boys Batman to still have that honor of

668
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440
doing that. But I would like it built up as

669
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,720
far as he's in Superman, he's in lanterns, and finally

670
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:27,480
it takes like the human to punch him and be like, hey,

671
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,279
enough of this guy. But it looks eerily similar, so

672
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:34,039
I wouldn't be surprised if there's something like this, you know.

673
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:36,960
So let's see. So it's just parked over there, so

674
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:40,079
just gonna free show geek first. There you go him Versultraman.

675
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,400
We've seen this like almost every trailer, so in the

676
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,119
like football stadium there this I know I said last time,

677
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,039
and again people can say, well that's how does the comics.

678
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:52,039
That's fine. It's just like in books. It's like how

679
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:55,720
things are you can change him? This chair just sucks.

680
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,240
I don't care like miss like, I just don't feel

681
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480
like any But he's gonna look at mister tripping like

682
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:04,799
this is cool. It's just even the way he's like,

683
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,880
like the way he's arched, like, I don't know, it

684
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,559
just doesn't And again maybe this is from the comics.

685
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:12,680
He has his chair where he sits like that doesn't

686
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,400
look great to me. Who knows what's going on here?

687
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,480
I've seen lots of theories about Pawka dimensions and multiverse stuff,

688
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:22,640
and I don't know much about Baby Joey. I don't

689
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,200
know what Baby Joey does. I don't know if he's

690
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,000
doing this or something else. Awfully, obviously, we've heard some

691
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,920
sort of rumblings about a multiverse stuff being a peacemaker

692
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,680
as well. So uh yeah, like we'll see. That's one

693
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,319
where everyone's been like, hey, there's it's the start of

694
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:42,720
a whole new world. He saw that lightning, didn't you,

695
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,119
big one. It's a start of a whole new world.

696
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,759
There's lots of villains in here, there's lots of characters.

697
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:50,039
Do we need that? Like? So far the list of

698
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,039
things people being like, do we need X, Y, and Z.

699
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,200
I'd be like yeah or not yeah, but I'd be

700
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:55,799
like I could see why, or I don't think it's

701
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:58,640
gonna be a issue, right, like the Justice Gang. I

702
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,000
don't think it's gonna be in this movie that much.

703
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:04,960
I think, oh we'gan some big rumbos now ladies and gentlemen.

704
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,119
I don't think it's gonna be a point. I think

705
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,839
it's gonna be like Robert Downey inspier Man, which I

706
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,799
thought was a good amount, right, something like the multiverse.

707
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,000
If this is right, let's say that's just been a theory.

708
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,920
If it isn't there, I don't think that needs to

709
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640
be in here so early. You can leave that for

710
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,039
Peace Banker because it's a show, not as many eyes,

711
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,319
even Superman two or whatever the sequel may be. That

712
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Taylor and Kirkland forgot to talk about check a weekly

713
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Geek de Finement, little rant there. I just think, especially

714
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,519
with I don't know, I'm of two minds, right, because

715
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:41,400
I hear lots of people talk about how sick they

716
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680
are the multiverse, and I feel like I hear my

717
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,279
friends like I think even cost with it. To me,

718
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:47,599
I hear a podcast I listen to say that. But

719
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,319
as I've talked about before, in the MCU, its most

720
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:54,559
probable films are the multiverse films. It's the top three

721
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,839
since Covid or since Endgame have been No Way Home, Deadpool, Wolverine,

722
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,680
Doctor Strange, and then after that's Guardians and then thor or five.

723
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:05,200
So and those are like poplar sequels, right, But the

724
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,159
top three, maybe the mainstream is not. So maybe I'll

725
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,119
take that back. Maybe maybe, because I think that's for

726
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,280
the audience that might be harders like more multiverse stuff.

727
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,920
But fuck, maybe they'll be like, yeah, cool, I like

728
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,719
that over there. Maybe we'll see camm Well, maybe we'll

729
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
see this, Like, I don't know. To me, here's the thing,

730
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,039
there's two different multiverses. There is the multiverse nostalgia, which

731
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:29,960
that's why I think that your audiences show up for

732
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,000
if it's the multiverse rules like a Loki and we're

733
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,440
setting up King Dinas your Secret Wars. That's what I

734
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,519
don't think is needed here. I don't think it's needed

735
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:39,480
at all here. I think for your first film, just wait,

736
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,519
I think if you start to do too much of that,

737
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:45,199
like big world building of multiverse stuff, people will be like, oh,

738
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,079
this again, but maybe I'm wrong, and maybe it's so

739
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:48,840
small again that it won't matter and people won't care.

740
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,199
It's kind of like when Doctor Strange in the first one,

741
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,159
when we just fall in through all his universes, right

742
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,320
that was the multiverse, but people didn't really take it

743
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,360
like that because I remember multiverse madness to be like, well,

744
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,920
he's already been before, and we talked about that where

745
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,000
some people didn't understand. So we'll see and I don't

746
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,679
know what the fuck baby Joey is, so we'll see

747
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,639
this shot right here. There's something that people have pointed

748
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:14,800
out that which I agree with, that the very first look.

749
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:17,400
I can't posit it any better. I'll try one more time,

750
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,760
but the very first look, like the teaser trailer that

751
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,360
like the outside shots and lots of the world building

752
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,440
there we go or lot's of the world. There was

753
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:32,840
moments of it that felt like commercially and not commercial

754
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,480
in the sense of like oh, a big brand, like

755
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,639
literally a commercial, and just something was off about it.

756
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,760
And the color grain just didn't look You don't want

757
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,119
to say natural, because the most color graining doesn't right.

758
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,320
You look at most movies like if you were to

759
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,440
take the actual just first, like the actual, real the file.

760
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,079
It doesn't look like that, like even with our films,

761
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,559
like they don't look like the I don't think there's

762
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,840
a single shot in adrenochrome that's there is there's when

763
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,519
Taylor v logs and if you've seen the movie know

764
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:01,280
other that because I didn't have to change that. Other

765
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,840
than that, everything's color grade one way or another. So

766
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:10,440
and this is that it just looks I don't know,

767
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,639
it looks pale. And I'm not saying that because Lois

768
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,000
Lane looks very white and pale. It just it feels

769
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,880
like when you see a when you're on a ride

770
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,159
and you see like the Welcome to the you know,

771
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,840
the lex Core ship ride and they've shot something where

772
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,360
it's like, oh, that's definitely like the set and the props,

773
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,320
but something looks a little off. That's what this looks now.

774
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,239
I will say in the second trailer, a lot of

775
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,599
that stuff was gone or looked better. So I still

776
00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:38,960
think it's gonna be in this movie. I think there's

777
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,280
gonna be sometin things that don't look aesthetically pleasing, but

778
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,960
they aesthetically fit the vibe they're going for. So we'll

779
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,480
just have to see kind of like what the percentages?

780
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:49,559
When I saw this, it's like, I don't know, there's

781
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,599
just something about this here that I wasn't wasn't driving with.

782
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:59,639
But we'll continue. Let's see Robert bats jumping out of

783
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:03,679
that poor girls chills. That would be that would be

784
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,719
probably one of our biggest reviews ever. So you know

785
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,360
what at that point, not too mad. We got more

786
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,320
of the Superman chanting scene, but I would be mad obviously, right.

787
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,400
And here's another moment where lex is there and he's

788
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,280
just saying, Hey, they chose Superman, We're gonna kill them again.

789
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,840
I think on the outside he'll say some things, but

790
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,679
for us, just like this guy's a piece of shit

791
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,400
and trying to say, like, hey, if you know somebody

792
00:37:27,519 --> 00:37:30,719
that's you know, racist or against trans people or gay

793
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,480
people or anybody that's somewhat different, they can say whatever

794
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:36,079
they want, but deep down to their core, they're probably

795
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:40,039
just a shitty person like Lexus. Here classic shot of

796
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:41,760
him saying that girl again, which is you know, a

797
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,760
winner every time. Uh, let's see here, you know, some

798
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,599
some gun humor, and we'll see this is the whole thing,

799
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,079
Like what are you doing down there? And then I

800
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,480
think Clark's like, oh, I'm just trying to, you know,

801
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,000
do my best. I'm saving the day or whatnot. Don't

802
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,280
mind that. I think that does fits like that humor

803
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,480
fits like with a Superman. Also, if it's with gun

804
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,599
just want a right amount of it. I'm not saying

805
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,440
a fucking direless no, like James Gunn all that Colmedy

806
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,159
stuff you're really good at. Don't do it all. No,

807
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:14,719
I'm not saying that, just saying there's there's layers and

808
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,239
levels to it, right. And then this shot which is

809
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,039
a shot that I I guess it's all right because

810
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:21,880
I'm now looking forward to it, but there's part of

811
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,400
me that want to see the first time in the

812
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,079
the movies. It's a shot where they starting Superman's chest

813
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,639
he fly, It pans out and then it's just dozens

814
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:33,119
of the Raptors in air and Superman is just spinning

815
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,280
like a blender with his heat vision. This is looking

816
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,800
like just pure I'm not saying reason Habits Center films

817
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,840
in Habit, but this is just pure panelic comics. This

818
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,960
is something where it's like, okay, saving that I had

819
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,559
the flash of the fly, and that's what's funny that

820
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,320
maybe this is the better version of that. I said

821
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,840
in the best way, the flash felt like a Saturday

822
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,960
Morning cartoon, and that's what this feels like here, And

823
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,199
I've heard other people say like this these I just

824
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:02,880
feel like Superman the animated series. And I can't speak

825
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,400
that because I have seen it, but it's not when

826
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,840
I rewatch over and over. I wanted to before the

827
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,920
movie came out. Don't know if I'll get around to it.

828
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,559
My thing was spanning Batman, Batman Beyond and then watching

829
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:14,639
Justice League like I want to here and there, watched

830
00:39:14,679 --> 00:39:17,320
over many times, but like watching them be good for

831
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,840
you know, four to five years. But Batman animates series,

832
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,159
I don't know if I watch it all the way

833
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,519
every year, but pretty pretty close to so. But just

834
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,480
a great shot I'm excited to see. I'm jealous of

835
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:31,400
you people that got IMAX because that is that's looking

836
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,639
like a good time. Lots of fun there. So yeah,

837
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,320
I thought it was a good trailer. We'll see what happens,

838
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,119
but I think all the you know, I thought the

839
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:45,079
teaser most of my stuff was like technical stuff issues,

840
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,920
but didn't hate it. The second one didn't. I really enjoyed.

841
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,320
That got me excited, but I was just questioning more like, Okay,

842
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:56,440
what is happening that's different per se, No, tell me

843
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,840
if you're hearing that windo out there, it's getting it's

844
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,360
getting juicy, I guess, hopefully not juicy wind but yeah.

845
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,760
And then this trailer I think just did a good

846
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,559
job of here's a bunch of cool stuff. Go get

847
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:11,199
tickets and uh yeah, I'll be interesting to see where

848
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,000
we're gonna land on these ticket sales. And we're gonna

849
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,480
talk about that in just a moment. We'll be right back,

850
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,960
and we are back. So this is to do it. Now.

851
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:25,320
This is from a site that it's called box Office Theory,

852
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,960
and it's sites it's something that people use for early

853
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,199
early tracking, right, So this is to say that, hey,

854
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:34,039
this this type of tracking because now we're gonna get

855
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:38,480
real tracking soon where it's ticket sales and purchases and

856
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,880
you know, demand x, Y and z. But before the

857
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,559
early tracking is all based on like social media impressions

858
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:48,199
and trailer review or trailer reviews and all this like

859
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,199
advertisements and purchase of said merch And what they do

860
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,800
is they take it and they go, Okay, let's say

861
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,639
the Batman did these numbers? Super Benstein doing these numbers

862
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,280
kind of comparable. Like let's say, if you're I don't know,

863
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,960
let's just say trailer got one million, one billion views, right, didn't,

864
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,480
But let's say swam Tril got one billion views. Oh,

865
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:12,840
the Batman got one point five billion views, so it

866
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,199
might be a little less than that. Right, So now

867
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:17,159
we're gonna start getting more and more as we had closer.

868
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,679
But it's early tracking, right, and the numbers of the

869
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,199
early tracking aren't too surprising, even though I think they

870
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:24,760
could change. So right now we could break it down

871
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,519
because I haven't looked at these, so I'm excited to

872
00:41:26,559 --> 00:41:30,119
talk about them on air. Uh, the early this is

873
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:34,400
for the opening weekend domestic. Okay, so the lowest of

874
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,519
the guys I don't want to say guys. I guess

875
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:39,760
Jrassic War was led by Scar show lowest of the

876
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,320
July crew Fantastic four at one twenty five to one

877
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920
thirty five. Now I know, I saw some stat I'm like, oh,

878
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,039
it's one of their biggest summer openings. Yeah, sure, I'm

879
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:52,239
sure it is because I more about the May crew.

880
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,800
But we'll get there. I'm gonna look at some of

881
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,960
the stuff and if git a second here, Superman was

882
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,920
a second with one point fifty and one seventy, and

883
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,239
then Drastic World was first place with one sixty five

884
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,880
to one eighty five. Now one obviously Fantastic Four nowhere near.

885
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,599
If these let's say these numbers are true, that's what

886
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,320
we're gonna do. It's like a sea tier thing. It's

887
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,199
for fun. We're talking about to see because these are

888
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:18,840
not the official tracking that'll come out. And just like

889
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,320
Ballerina this week, right, official tracking was like thirty five

890
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,280
to forty five May twenty five. Not good. We'll see

891
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,880
what happens with that movie. You can check out our

892
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,360
review top. Because it's a ninety million budget with all

893
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,239
those reshoots and everything. But do you just push ahead

894
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,280
and keep going? I don't know. And these budgets we

895
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,320
don't know, because Superman has been thrown around a bunch.

896
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,199
And I think Drassic World's clocking at one eighty because

897
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,400
they went cheap on that one. It's like boom, They're

898
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,360
they're gonna making the most profit Drassic World, right, And

899
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:49,840
I guess we could start there because let's see Drassic

900
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,000
let's go. I usually use the numbers thanks to Brent.

901
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,920
Shout out of Brent, hope you're doing well there. I

902
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,239
gotta message and see how you're doing. I feel like well.

903
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:01,920
I was gonna say, feel like we used to talk

904
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,119
all the time, but no, it's just because I used

905
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,239
to hear you. We still did. We still do talk

906
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,960
on good occasions. But I think just because I would

907
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,840
hear Marvel Alliance felt like Brent was talking to me.

908
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,039
But the only thing that box Office module is a

909
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:15,039
bit better is at the kind of breakdowns like opening

910
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,800
weekends and whatnot. Sometimes the numbers loses that. So and

911
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,400
now I got police sirens out there. Hopefully these strikes

912
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,360
and stuff are okay, because they're honestly over there. And

913
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,880
I don't know, if you hear the wind, we might

914
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,519
just get to this topic it was. It's picking up

915
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:33,039
big time, but it's it's feeling nice. Okay. Jurassic World,

916
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,320
I'm gonna pull them all up. We're gonna start with

917
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,920
the dinosaurs, right, let's see, not gonna go with the classics,

918
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,320
the old school One's just gonna go with uh, the

919
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,599
the new trilogy, right, I suppose, says the Baby Joe

920
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,400
Joey maniacs are running wild to the box office. I

921
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,559
thought you're gonna make some iguana joke. I sposed my god. Okay,

922
00:43:52,679 --> 00:44:01,039
so opening weekend for Let's see where is Sometimes these

923
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:04,239
movies once they start to get older, they don't really Okay,

924
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,760
here we go, domestic opening of two oh eight for

925
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,440
the first Drastic World, and the next one was one

926
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:14,519
forty five U or sorry no, no sorry. The next

927
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,360
one was one forty eight, and then the next one

928
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,159
was one forty five, so kind of still in the ballpark.

929
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:24,320
All the made a billion dollars, give or take. I

930
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,800
should have not closed that. Let me pull that back up.

931
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,039
My bad, but that's pretty good considering if that tracking

932
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,360
was to be correct. So you got no not rebirth.

933
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,119
Don't fuck me over. They're trying to fuck me over.

934
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:39,480
Oh I can smell the rain, man, If they could

935
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,280
bottle the rain to be a smell that I could

936
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,400
have as a car fresher, like genuine rain, I'd pay

937
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:49,639
top top dollar. Drastic World's one point six billion, who man? Uh,

938
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,400
Drassic Domini, which was the third one, was just a billion,

939
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,679
and then uh, let's see Drastic World Fall and King

940
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:02,079
the second at one point three billion. Reason I wanted

941
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:04,840
to bring them up because you look at that the

942
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,039
second and third. The second was only three million higher

943
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,400
than the third one, So you would think, oh, their

944
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,280
box office runs is gonna be pretty similar, right, obviously

945
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,000
because they had a billion, But still there's still three

946
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:19,559
hundred million missing there. Granted, again, these movies came out

947
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,800
after Cold like still in that like comperiative like COVID

948
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,719
was an asbad, but still rounds a lot of people

949
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,239
stay at home. Uh. And granted they brought back the

950
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,159
Legends as well, but still three hundred million dollars pretty

951
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,599
good if it's tracking right now to what was that? Uh,

952
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,039
one sixty five to one eighty five. If those were

953
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,320
true numbers, that'd be the best opening since the first

954
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,519
draft of World, which makes sense. You're never gonna get that, right.

955
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,159
That's like Forced Awakens. It was coming back big stars

956
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,840
that Chris Pratt were emerging and everything, so that would

957
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,760
be a win. Now here's the thing that I feel like,

958
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,079
is a lot different than and this is for all

959
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:56,039
these movies, right, A lot different than with Jurassic World

960
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:59,480
came out Avengers. To me, those movies, it felt like

961
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,239
and I think he's I don't know what it's called

962
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,119
but someone. If you're on Twitter, you're really curious what

963
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,000
I'm talking about. Hit up Stephen Colbert. He's been on.

964
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,840
He's up here on Giver's like briefly journa try batt

965
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,960
but his wife has been on a couple of times

966
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,400
that they're good friends the show. I've talked to him

967
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,760
on the Vogas stream. They're good people over there, and

968
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,480
he's a great writer, like he he I don't know

969
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:23,039
if we have I guess to be probably that in

970
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:24,760
called I think we have different things. But he likes

971
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,079
looking at numbers and making charts, and he had this

972
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:29,880
great article one time where he's like looking at the

973
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,280
differences of years based and like a opening weekend and

974
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,000
the drop offs right, And he was one of the

975
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,119
first people to really point me out to the whole

976
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,559
the big Marvel fans come out for the opening week

977
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:42,000
And I feel like to give him credit. He was

978
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:44,079
on that way before it was really starting to get

979
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:47,840
bad of like the big sixty whatever drops right. So

980
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,480
that's the thing though, where even twenty fifteen, you'd make

981
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,559
this big bulk of money and you weren't expected. That's

982
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:57,639
why when the bvs sixty percent drop or whatever happened

983
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,039
or seventy whatever was some big number. That's why it

984
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:02,400
is so big because like, man, what a huge drop

985
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,800
off for a huge franchise. It is divisive, right, which

986
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,519
I there's parts that I do agree with that for sure.

987
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:10,639
And there was big drop offs before, but it was

988
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:14,840
because either it was something like an endgame where it

989
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,840
was massive opening weekends, so the drop off of what's

990
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,679
gonna be huge, or it would be bigger drop offs

991
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:21,840
but still making big amounts of change. We've seen many

992
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,960
movies have a massive opening you can like a quantmania,

993
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:29,360
and then the next weekend the legs just fall out

994
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,639
from under it. Right, So same thing where it's like,

995
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,639
we could be in a situation. Let's say that tracking

996
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:35,760
is true for Drastic World. It could make one eighty

997
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,719
five be only fifteen million less than Drastic World. Like

998
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:42,199
that's a one point six billion dollar movie. This is

999
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,320
gonna be massive, but it's not the same way. The

1000
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,519
law of the opening weekend is those core people like

1001
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,239
myself and like a lot of you guys that just

1002
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,559
go for the opening week because you still love movies,

1003
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:54,519
right and you want to see that event. There's lots

1004
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,320
of people that now will wait or you know, I'm good,

1005
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,880
don't care about theater, especially with things coming to streaming

1006
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,079
so fast. If they know you can wait a little bit,

1007
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,880
that's fine. Sure, Like even sinners like the fact that

1008
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,880
it's like we haven't washed it at home because and

1009
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,960
we want to see it. But the fact that it's

1010
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,840
on view deal ready, it's like still like wow, that

1011
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,920
that's crazy. That was a phenomenon, right, So that's hard

1012
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,559
to say. And with Jurassic World, I really don't know.

1013
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:21,159
That's what I've said before, so I'm sorry for repeating,

1014
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:24,000
but that's what I love about all these franchises coming

1015
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,800
on in July. Is One, it's just gonna be interesting

1016
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,760
how the box office reacts. But two, they all have

1017
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:33,519
they're all in a pivot point, right. Fantastic Four is

1018
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:37,119
trying to rebuild and regain trust of Marvel fans. Superman's

1019
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,519
trying to start a new and regain trust a little

1020
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:41,599
bit for some people that didn't like the old universe

1021
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:44,400
for whatever reason, right, And then Jurassic World is one

1022
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,920
trying to see if we can do without these biggest

1023
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,760
tap of stars. And two is it the new Transformers?

1024
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,760
Where is box all like it's full proof where no

1025
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,440
matter what if these movies that to me, uh dress

1026
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,920
World two and three not great movies, and many people

1027
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:00,960
to talk to not great movies, But it doesn't no

1028
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:02,880
matter because people want to see dinosaurs and you don't

1029
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,760
get them as much as a superhero movie right where

1030
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,400
you're gonna least at least two of those a year

1031
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:11,079
minimum nowadays, right? Or is it a case where it

1032
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:13,480
is like the whenever it was in its age extinction

1033
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:17,480
to the Last Night, we're eventually transformers the bad faith

1034
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,320
cut up to them feeling I'm not gonna go see

1035
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,599
those anymore, right, even with like the Piots Caribbean, same thing,

1036
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:27,079
it caught up to them. So I supposed says at

1037
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,039
Scargo is a big established star. Yes, okay, sorry, you're

1038
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,719
completely right. I'll take back what I said. I mean

1039
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:37,840
an established character in the sense of, hey, we can

1040
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,159
get Chris Pratt and Bryce Dyles Howardard and Bryce Dauce

1041
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:43,760
Howard versus Scargo nowhere near the same tier level. But

1042
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,800
she's playing a character that's been in three three billion

1043
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,199
dollar movie No, three billion dollar movies. That's a bad

1044
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,400
way to phrase it. So that's what I mean, not that, Yes,

1045
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,039
Scargo is a big star. Ada Like, I won't say

1046
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:57,760
it's a big star for people known, but that's more

1047
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,119
what I mean as far as absolutely and SCARGI, Oh,

1048
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:01,880
it's way more bigger than I think Chris brad Bryce

1049
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,400
tells Howard was when they did the first one. Uh

1050
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:10,000
fu get with maniacs own Grady Maniacs not show out rebirths,

1051
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,079
and they might not write there's people like Chris Bratt, right,

1052
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:14,440
or they just feel like, oh I was connected with

1053
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,599
those characters. Now it's new characters. I'm good for a bit, right,

1054
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,519
So that's what I mean. But yeah, Scargo definitely a

1055
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,559
big star and the same thing. We'll see her power.

1056
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:26,880
So curious to see how that one goes. And I

1057
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,800
know too A lot of people point out where they

1058
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,000
used to make a lot of money in the international

1059
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,239
markets where leveless international markets now don't pay out as

1060
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,360
big now because they got their own movies. They figure

1061
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,840
out during COVID, like, hey, we got to do our

1062
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,239
own shit. And that's why the biggest movie year right

1063
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,679
now is a movie from China, because it's like, oh, yeah,

1064
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:47,400
we did this and people loved him great. So that

1065
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,440
doesn't surprise me. It's opening in a bigger weekend. We're

1066
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,599
gonna get to Fantastic four in a second, but I

1067
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,559
do have my money on Swerman for the bigger weekend

1068
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:01,239
as well too. It's interesting because people say that about

1069
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:06,199
the internal national markets of Jurassic But to me, if

1070
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:11,360
you like and I should make an official prediction, my

1071
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,400
gut would say that, hey, you should go drastic because

1072
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,599
even if they're paying out less big established franchise, but

1073
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:19,400
I think it's gonna fall enough. And that's where I

1074
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,199
think I'm gonna not pussy foot around because I don't

1075
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:22,960
know if we'll do this topic again in the future

1076
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,360
when we get closer, we'll do predictions, but I'm gonna

1077
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,800
say Superman is gonna win the summer. Now, that's what

1078
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,320
it all's with context, right, because it's all about trailers

1079
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,719
and showings where I think Fantastic For for me, the

1080
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,679
last trail there was better, and I think they've had

1081
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,920
some good showings, but I don't think they're capturing the

1082
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:43,440
huge mainstream audience. And I think obviously there's sons of

1083
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,440
people that are. If you on the Marvel branch, I

1084
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,599
think Superman is doing a great job of I said

1085
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,800
that feels like the event movie of the summer. But

1086
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,159
I still could see a world where Superman has the

1087
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:57,039
bigger opening weekend, but Drastic makes more overall. So I'm

1088
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,719
saying that, but I still say these three uds gonna win.

1089
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:01,800
I think it's gonna be Superman. Now. I think it's

1090
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,000
gonna beat that opening week, and I think it's tough

1091
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,079
for me, right because let's see, I always go back

1092
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,480
to this the Batman opening week, and we talked about

1093
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,320
this the last week leak Geek, which some made a

1094
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,280
good point right where let's see here made well not

1095
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,840
too lower than I thought as one twenty eight nine. Uh,

1096
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,880
but the thing is this, so I think it definitely

1097
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,800
bet that that was still a little bit of COVID,

1098
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,079
and that's a bit darker movie as a family movie.

1099
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,639
I'm trying to I had them last week. I think

1100
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:37,880
it was May. It was the budgets. I can't remember

1101
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,199
what it was, but I think it was. You would

1102
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,440
put it in like the top ten or fifteen opening

1103
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,880
weekends of super Movie since COVID, which is not like

1104
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,920
a bad thing because like, you know, yeah, I should

1105
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,320
have pulled that up. It's I had. I did the

1106
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,519
homework weeks ago. And then got rid of it. But

1107
00:52:54,599 --> 00:52:58,320
either way, all those numbers are good. But same thing.

1108
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,119
It's about the weekends after the fact, right, There's many

1109
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:04,239
moves have a great opening weekend and then they peter

1110
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,800
out and will peter out. I don't know. I still

1111
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,920
think this is gonna be, for the most part, more

1112
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,840
talked about than Fantastic four, and I do think it's

1113
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,360
gonna be a better move than Fantastic four. I definitely

1114
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,800
think it will be a better mood than the Drastic

1115
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,239
World and talked about. Who knows because maybe again people

1116
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,199
just went I love talking about dinosaurs. But I think

1117
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,519
that's really good tracking if I can try and find

1118
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:31,239
let's see biggest opening weekends post COVID. Let's see if

1119
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,440
I can come on Google. Don't share me now, Okay, Reddit,

1120
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:37,800
thank you very much. This is from nine months ago. Okay,

1121
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:41,400
so this is the top. I think something could be wrong,

1122
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,760
but anyways, these are the top twelve. Taco Maverick one

1123
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,480
twenty six, The Batman says one thirty four, so I

1124
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:50,760
thought that was wrong. But Avatar one thirty four, Love

1125
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,800
and Thunder one forty four, Draft World Dominion one forty five,

1126
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:57,320
Super Mario Bros. One forty six, Inside Out one fifty four,

1127
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,519
Barbie at one safety two, Black Panther one eighty one,

1128
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:03,760
and then Strange at one eighty seven, Deple Wolvering at

1129
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,639
two eleven, and then Inspire Man Knowing Home at two sixty.

1130
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,639
And that is always the funny thing right where we

1131
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:11,480
talk about and we'll get to them doom and gloom

1132
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,519
of oh Marvel and Disney, Like I've heard that before.

1133
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:15,599
It's like, oh man, if this isn't hit for them,

1134
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,880
they're in make trouble. I don't think that. I think

1135
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,960
it just shows that, Hey, it's what I've been saying

1136
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,519
for fucking years. Fantastic four is not a draw, and

1137
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,119
I think that. Okay, So let's say because like I said,

1138
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,559
what is that the top four out of five or

1139
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,480
Marvel films, you know, and then they got another one

1140
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,280
with the Lemon Thunder in the top ten, Like that's

1141
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:41,159
pretty considering, Like multiple brands are down or not making

1142
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,719
money or having issues, right, so everybody, So when you're

1143
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,119
in that scope of hey, the biggest openings of COVID

1144
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:49,559
top five, you got four of the top slots. That's

1145
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:51,559
pretty good. Of course you want me doing better. I

1146
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,239
get it. Right, they've had lots of bumps in the road.

1147
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,280
But that's why for me, I don't necessarily to me

1148
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,440
that the Fantastic four is a turning point. But the

1149
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:04,960
biggest indicator is Venders, which I think Avengers Doomsday clears

1150
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:07,800
a billion easy. I think I even get to the

1151
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,639
two billion. I think I'm more in the run of

1152
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:12,079
like a one point five. I think if it's as

1153
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:14,599
good as an Infinity War or even an Endgame, then

1154
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:16,519
I'm actually in the two point billion camp. I don't

1155
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:18,960
think any of them will be because Endgame nearly got

1156
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,840
to three right Endgame box Office and I totally misspuilled

1157
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,119
Endgame awesome. Let's say two yeah, two point seven, nine

1158
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:30,239
to nine billion, So let's just say two point eight.

1159
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,960
I don't think either of them would do that. My

1160
00:55:33,199 --> 00:55:35,559
thing would be, I would say, because Secret Wars were

1161
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:37,480
just assuming he has those returning stars, right, So that's

1162
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,280
why I feel like that clear is an easy two billion.

1163
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,760
To me, my trajectory is like Doomsday. Let's just say

1164
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,679
like on the base of it, they're just fine, like

1165
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,559
they're seven to at tens. Doomsday's a one point five,

1166
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:50,280
and then Secret Wars is a two billion. If they're better.

1167
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,000
I could see Doomsday being a two, and I could

1168
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:56,440
see Secret Wars being a two point five, but I

1169
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,639
don't think they'll get up to endgame. Even two point

1170
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,800
five seems like a lot like I'd be more saying

1171
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,000
like two twenty five or something like that. Right, So,

1172
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:06,920
but if you look at that, let's say, on the

1173
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,920
high even in the low on let's say the low

1174
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,199
end of this tracking is right one point fifty, that

1175
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,679
would put it at the seventh biggest opening, just under

1176
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,000
Inside Out to Barbie Black Panther, Duct Chraine, Deadpool, Rennoing

1177
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,559
Home pretty great as Inside Out too, Poplar Pixar sequel

1178
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,880
Barbie won the biggest brands world and then a bunch

1179
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,039
of Poplar Marvel characters. Right, And that's where to get

1180
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:32,480
to Fantastic four, where I agree to an extent when

1181
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,000
I do say it is pivotal moment because it's supposed

1182
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,320
to be leading, it is a big franchise. I think

1183
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,840
there's just two types of pivotal moments. To me, I

1184
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,079
think it's pivotal as far as what they can make

1185
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,559
going forward, even more so, or just even if they

1186
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:49,039
have another big brand winner, because same thing one twenty five,

1187
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:51,360
one thirty five. That's a pretty good opening week. And

1188
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,280
let's look at that with the Marvels. Let's see more

1189
00:56:54,519 --> 00:57:01,320
MCU biggest opening weekends. Take a look. Don't feel me Google,

1190
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,639
last time he helped me out franchise. Let's see, can

1191
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:08,320
we get the opening perfect endgame number at one fifty

1192
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,920
seven or three fifty seven? Just fucking nuts. So it's like,

1193
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,000
that's it. That's such a weird window. There's a window

1194
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:23,400
of like Captain America Civil War at one seventy nine

1195
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,960
and then the next one at thirteen, inspire Me at

1196
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:29,039
ninety two, such almost like one hundred thousand different, right,

1197
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:31,800
but oh wait, no that's not it's not ranked. Hang on,

1198
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,920
my bad. There, let's say opening. There we go. Now

1199
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,880
it's right, that's better. Okay, so let's go the high

1200
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,639
and for fantimes score to help him row right, let's

1201
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:41,960
say it's those one thirty five get early tracking. This

1202
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,840
could because they came out after saying oh best pre

1203
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,519
sales day. This could be higher or could be lower.

1204
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:48,039
Maybe I had those pre sales for day one, but

1205
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,480
after be like, eh, I've seen the Superman stuff. I

1206
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,639
want to go that. Let's see, So if it was one.

1207
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,000
We're saying one thirty five, that would place it under

1208
00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:00,480
four Love and Thunder, so that would place it. Uh

1209
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:04,639
what is that fucking box office moju? I did the sorting,

1210
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:14,519
didn't change the number, So I gotta count myself one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, okay, fifteen,

1211
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:19,239
and there has been don't put the reel of releases

1212
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:21,920
in here, so fifteen out of thirty six has been

1213
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,000
thirty six films and there's been fifteen, so it would

1214
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:30,000
be above not above average, it'd be in the past halfway.

1215
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,039
So actually I would say above. It's toughually what above averages?

1216
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:36,639
I guess we'd have to get the average of that, right,

1217
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:41,039
But what was that? Let's do some quick math here.

1218
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:49,599
Let's say fifteen divided by thirty six is forty one,

1219
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:51,880
so forty two percent, so it'd be in that top

1220
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,480
forty two percentile there. Let's see. I'm trying to think

1221
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,400
of anything else to use this page four. But yeah,

1222
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,719
and then you know, not too bad, like I think again,

1223
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,880
tough to go off like I think that for Fantastic

1224
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,719
four In a time when the MCU's rocky top fifteen

1225
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,320
sixteen opening. I think that's pretty good. It's again about

1226
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,920
what happens after. Luckily, there's two signs you can say

1227
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,239
this is that their last film. I mean people save

1228
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,400
their money for it, or August comes up and people

1229
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,519
go and see it over and over, or people have

1230
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:27,000
paid all their money and they don't need to see

1231
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,400
another superhero movie. Right, So for me, it's not the

1232
00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:33,920
be all end all. It's definitely a pivot point of

1233
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,719
can they get fans back and can they make them

1234
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:38,800
care about new big franchise like F four. But to me,

1235
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,559
if this were to Bomber underperform, let's say it gets

1236
00:59:41,559 --> 00:59:45,079
the same amount, just like a little bit above Brave

1237
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:49,880
New World, even five hundred something like that, right, I

1238
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,159
wonder what they look at it as, like what's their

1239
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,039
sequel rate? Right because even to me saying five hundred,

1240
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:57,840
I would say, yeah, that's good, like give it another

1241
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,159
chance to go a seql F four is no on

1242
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:02,360
a big brand. People think that all the time because

1243
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,960
the First Family have been around forever. Nah, Like I've

1244
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,960
not met one fucker in real life that had the

1245
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,400
Fantastic for as her favorite team or comic. Right, So

1246
01:00:11,559 --> 01:00:13,400
that's to me, it's like, I don't think that tracks.

1247
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,079
I think that's like comic book you know, jargon for

1248
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,760
fans like, oh yeah, I love these characters. Yeah, I'm

1249
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,480
sure you do, of course, Like, but it doesn't just

1250
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,400
because you love them, like I fucking loved the hobg album.

1251
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:25,800
But it doesn't mean he should be get his own

1252
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,320
spinoff movie it's gonna make a billion dollars. No, it

1253
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,280
all depends on what the public likes. And also, at

1254
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,800
least with all these other characters Spierman, X, Me and Blaye,

1255
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,559
they got some good films to start off with. They

1256
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:41,519
had very the first three Runner three bad met mediocre,

1257
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:43,639
Like I said, Kyle said that, which like Kyle because

1258
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:45,400
I think he's just out of practice. When I'm like,

1259
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,400
get SMCU, it's different, like, oh I've seen those before

1260
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,360
and they sucked. There will be people like that they

1261
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,960
oh those fantastic war movies, Yeah, those suck. I don't

1262
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,480
even know one of those. So I think it's just

1263
01:00:56,559 --> 01:01:00,440
to prove for this brand. As I've said, Avengers is

1264
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:06,719
the That's the true point to me. If that's a

1265
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,840
movie that does anything below a billion, which I don't

1266
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,360
think it would because we have no way home, and

1267
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,239
Deadpool will ring to prove us. But for some reason

1268
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:17,079
it did blow a billion. That's where I'd say, officially, okay,

1269
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:20,400
MS you big trouble. But I think both those are

1270
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,519
like easy a billion and we'll see. But I just

1271
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:27,719
Jurassic World people love, and you know they starting to

1272
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,480
pour out here. Listen to that. Oh that smells good.

1273
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:34,559
We're on our last topic. Because good, I can feel

1274
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:36,400
some wind pushing. I don't want the laptop to get

1275
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,239
fucked up. Well, maybe this will be last topic. I

1276
01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:42,599
think we're good. But anyways, I think I'll speed through

1277
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:46,400
the horror stuff. But last point is, I'm not surprised

1278
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,840
by this tracking. Even if it's an old biggest pre

1279
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,440
sales for twenty twenty five, Well then I'm so sure

1280
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,079
Soupman's gonna cross that. You know, I just don't think

1281
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:58,280
that has as much hype with the GA as the

1282
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,679
other two do. I'm getting more and more excited for it.

1283
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,159
But to me, this just makes use, especially once we've

1284
01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:07,000
seen everything right, because Superman could have had just like

1285
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:08,920
a bunch of really bad trayers. Even if there's some

1286
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,840
stuff I questioned him, I never thought anything was bad.

1287
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,079
Think I had some bad showings and go, okay, so

1288
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,440
Fantastic four their prime, and who knows, maybe get closer

1289
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,360
and things swaped, maybe F four gets better reception. I

1290
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,000
know there's test screens out there, but that doesn't matter

1291
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,719
to me because I remember a test screening of BBS

1292
01:02:24,719 --> 01:02:26,519
and someone's saying it is better than The Dark Night,

1293
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:31,679
It's just as good, and well, you know, I'd say

1294
01:02:31,719 --> 01:02:34,599
for myself it was a far cry from the Dark Knight.

1295
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,079
So let's take our last ad break and yeah, we

1296
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,000
should be able to get through this topic. Hopefully I

1297
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:46,440
don't get stormed out. We'll be right back. And we're back.

1298
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:49,800
So let's talk about two horror things here with Saw

1299
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,159
and Robert agger is doing Christmas Carrol. This's what I

1300
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:55,159
put in because I could put this in. These the guys,

1301
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:58,199
they'll talk about a little bit, but for me, I don't

1302
01:02:58,159 --> 01:03:00,639
think they'll even attest that I'm a much bigger Christmas

1303
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:04,119
Carol fan. This is a weird thing to say, because

1304
01:03:04,159 --> 01:03:07,719
I don't have a rankings of the top greatest fictional

1305
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,760
stories or pieces of art ever. Of course I gout

1306
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,880
movies and games, but just like overall, I've not done that.

1307
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,400
But if I do, or ever do, Christmas Carol will

1308
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,400
be in that list. It could even be number one.

1309
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:22,159
I fucking love a Christmas Carol. Amily gets annoying me

1310
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:26,400
every Christmas because I'll watch a b I have my

1311
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,960
go tos that I always watch over and over. I

1312
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:34,199
love them. Muppet one. I watch the original, which is not, well,

1313
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:39,639
not the original, which is the Oh god, now I'm

1314
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:41,199
sure I think it is the original. Right, let me

1315
01:03:41,199 --> 01:03:46,719
pull it up here, he's not. Let's see black and white.

1316
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,480
I know it's that one. Let me see here, Christmas Carol.

1317
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:56,000
There's so many here, nineteen fifty one. Let's see, it's

1318
01:03:56,039 --> 01:04:03,159
the one with what's his name? God, I don't think

1319
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:08,559
that was his name alstairs, sim maybe it was. Give

1320
01:04:08,599 --> 01:04:13,199
me some images here, No, just video clips, you fucking bastard. Okay,

1321
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:22,079
let's go nineteen fifty one Christmas Carol. And I'm not

1322
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:25,280
seen as much as the other ones because it's yeah, no,

1323
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,840
it is, Yes, it's that one. Yeah with astersim because

1324
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:32,519
luckily this year it was on a streaming service, but

1325
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:35,039
lots of times it's not. But try to watch that.

1326
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:37,440
I'll take it back. I try to watch that one

1327
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,039
every year, but that I would say, is the best

1328
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:42,599
version still great, There's still like it's a lot more

1329
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:45,159
scary than people give it credit for. Watch the Jim

1330
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:48,159
Carrey one, watch the Muppet one. I like watching the

1331
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:50,719
Mickey Mouse one. And there's still a bunch out there

1332
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,400
I don't haven't seen. I like watching Spirited. That's like

1333
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:59,079
a good play on that. I love Christmas Carol so much.

1334
01:04:59,159 --> 01:05:03,559
It's just to me perfect story of drama and love

1335
01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:08,239
and second chances and redemption and bitterness and depression and

1336
01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:11,199
all that stuff. And plus you get the guys of

1337
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,079
horror and ghosts, and I love it. Hits on things

1338
01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:18,400
of like what if scenarios and you know, taking wrote

1339
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,960
A or road B there's horror aspects and that has

1340
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,119
the Christmas you know guys on it. The filter kids

1341
01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:27,079
would say nowadays, it's just a perfect that original story,

1342
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:29,719
just perfect. And I love many adaptations. Of course there's

1343
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:32,599
some shit ones out there, but I'm down for them all.

1344
01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:37,360
But Robert Agers sounds like he's making one with William Dafoe.

1345
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:40,079
I was of two minds. As I talked about in

1346
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:42,360
the discord, this was great news but also just like

1347
01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:45,519
ball crushing news because I we'll see what happens, right,

1348
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:47,840
I really need to see because they said that he

1349
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,000
was making Pan's Labyrinth, and I'm sure that would be

1350
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:51,639
scared to have some horror elements, but I thought, oh,

1351
01:05:51,679 --> 01:05:54,599
that might be more family friendly. I don't think he'll

1352
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:57,079
do that with the Christmas Carol. But that was me

1353
01:05:57,159 --> 01:05:58,960
and the guys. We've been talking about this for years

1354
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,119
because I've always said that like, Okay, yeah, there's definitely

1355
01:06:03,199 --> 01:06:05,320
some like maybe straight to DVD. And don't get me wrong,

1356
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,960
if we did anything, it's straight to v O D.

1357
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:09,199
It's on our Patreon. I'm not saying, oh, we're big bridges,

1358
01:06:09,239 --> 01:06:12,599
but I'm saying there's a difference of like a type

1359
01:06:12,599 --> 01:06:14,960
of feel to that, right, and a Christmas Carol that

1360
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,360
I've seen that have done field use it like horror stuff.

1361
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:20,119
I feel like it's very cheap and schlocky, and it's

1362
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:22,800
just like that's just the gimmick, but they don't really

1363
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,599
use the essence of the story and the lesson and

1364
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:29,159
the teachings that happens in there. So we've been doing

1365
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:31,920
this for years and we actually I have the treatment

1366
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,519
written and I have part just part parts of the

1367
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:37,440
script because every time during Christmas, I want to write it,

1368
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,559
and I did write a bit this year, but even

1369
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,519
this year we are like, yep, that's one of our

1370
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:44,559
right now, this sounds you're you always get some behind

1371
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,920
the scenes footage for Tres told you right now, we

1372
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,599
got a ten movie plan. I know people might pay.

1373
01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:53,239
That's fucking crazy. We're already on movie three and obviously

1374
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,599
my twins that create some pauses. So movie three is

1375
01:06:57,639 --> 01:06:59,719
gonna take a lot longer. And it's good for us

1376
01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:01,719
to breaks because we can change up some stuff. I'd

1377
01:07:01,719 --> 01:07:04,679
love to get some different gear, et cetera. But it

1378
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,920
just kind of helps us with like our planning what

1379
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,360
we want to do and stuff, and we have it

1380
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,199
all mapped down. There's some other things I have in

1381
01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:13,400
that map about I don't want to say right now

1382
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:16,119
because if they don't come to fruition, like uh, like

1383
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:19,119
this potential air. But one of these was I'm not

1384
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:20,519
gonna say the title. I guess we ever used it,

1385
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:23,039
but it was an adaptation on Christmas Carol because that

1386
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:25,440
is in public domain, so easy to do, and it's

1387
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,719
just something that has, you know, been like close to

1388
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,800
my hurt my whole life, and I always want to

1389
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,800
be like I wanted to give this a really good

1390
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,199
once over, but it with the horror genre, like cause

1391
01:07:36,239 --> 01:07:39,039
that movie or that story has horrific things. And that's

1392
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:40,840
why I actually liked the Jim Carrey one because it

1393
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,760
really leans into some of those aspects. But then there's

1394
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,519
some really goofy stuff in there. So yeah, that that

1395
01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:52,039
was crushing because not saying and here's the thing. My

1396
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:57,519
our story was, you know, quite different, like here's a

1397
01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:01,400
minis Ebenezer Scrooge wasn't even the main character per se,

1398
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,159
but it still was to use kind of like spirited

1399
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:07,960
where to use certain aspects to tell it in a

1400
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,199
different tale, a different era, but using you know, tying

1401
01:08:11,239 --> 01:08:14,440
all that stuff together. And for us, it's for me,

1402
01:08:14,519 --> 01:08:17,399
it's like, okay, I every Christmas I work on that,

1403
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,000
that's gonna be one that I if this movie happens,

1404
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,800
I'm gonna wait to see this. And then if it

1405
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,119
doesn't happen, we may never do this again. I will

1406
01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:27,279
at some point do a version of Christmas Girl. At

1407
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:29,399
one point we talked about doing for Geek first, but

1408
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,680
then we kind of that transition into us making movies

1409
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,119
and like, oh well we did this, and I would

1410
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:36,399
very much like to make this movie because we have

1411
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,880
I think a lot of good variations and just fun

1412
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,840
spins on the ghosts and the lessons there and how

1413
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:47,199
we get there and what they're kind of like, what

1414
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:52,840
what their evolution is and what inspires them this time.

1415
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,439
But we'll see, because like I said, this manages a

1416
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,680
straight retelling who knows. I don't think it is. And

1417
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,199
to me, that's where I'll take up my so like

1418
01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:04,279
I said, take it trying to put away my personal stuff,

1419
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:06,199
which I was like, damn it, Like it is one

1420
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,439
of those where it's the same thing. Like we filmed

1421
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,039
the movie and it's it's fine, But there was a

1422
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:14,680
movie that after we finished, well we've said it for love, right,

1423
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,199
I can't remember what the movie is, and I think

1424
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:21,680
now enough's come out that that's what happens where it's like, okay,

1425
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,920
I think this is different, but I remember it's the

1426
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,880
girl from Scream. She like the one that got fire,

1427
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,600
Miss Melissa Breros or whatever she was in a movie

1428
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:36,560
and the fucking log line or synopsis was like, oh,

1429
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,000
that sounds very similar to something we just filmed. Like

1430
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,359
I said, Luckily, it's different perspective. I think there's enough differences.

1431
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,079
But I was like, oh, that sucks, right, It just

1432
01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:46,600
kind of feels like when you have a great idea, right,

1433
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:47,880
And I was like, oh, that's why it's great, because

1434
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,760
someone else has done it. So that's why I'm hoping

1435
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,880
that whatever this film is, it's nothing kind of like

1436
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,880
what we want to do, you know, and not that

1437
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,399
it's you know, a big thing, because like if we're

1438
01:09:59,399 --> 01:10:02,199
so passionate, but that sometimes we're just feels like if

1439
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:04,439
you have a good, you know, unique idea, or if

1440
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,000
there's a spin off, right or a variation even a

1441
01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:09,199
Dranna Crowen's like, oh, that's a variation of a few things,

1442
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:11,880
but then it still became our own. There wasn't anything

1443
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,720
exactly like that. So we'll see. But on the end

1444
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,520
of being a film fan, man, this is fucking let's

1445
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,439
and let's say this. Let's say no matter why, oh

1446
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,479
you know we're gonna you know, only make nine or

1447
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,720
replaced with ten or I never became a filmmaker, take

1448
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,760
up my uh my side, man, or like the filmmaker

1449
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,920
side looking forward to this top level like this is

1450
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,520
for also, I don't know the rest of the film

1451
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,920
is a decade, but for what we kind of know

1452
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,720
now it's say, up until twenty twenty eight, next to No.

1453
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,319
One's Odyssey Robert Eggert's a Christmas Carol with womb full

1454
01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:51,880
of Scrooge. Holy fuck, this is like ultra level good

1455
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,000
and to me, like he's done a lot of stuff

1456
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,800
that has proven it, and not just because it's my

1457
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,640
favorite of his, but to me, the way he handled

1458
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,319
nos Ratu. I know it sounds weird, but that feels

1459
01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:04,960
like a pointed a point being a Christmas Care, like, oh,

1460
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,039
he can do this very very well, whether it's that error,

1461
01:11:09,039 --> 01:11:11,119
whether it's the pacing the story, whether it is the

1462
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,760
like if he can bring what he brought to Not's

1463
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,720
Fraud to like the vampire to some of these ghosts,

1464
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,960
my god, that is like and that's why wouldn't you

1465
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,039
want to touch another like core Christmas Care Because this guy,

1466
01:11:24,079 --> 01:11:26,239
he's gonna fucking knock on the park like we could

1467
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:29,000
never match that like that. This is gonna be I

1468
01:11:29,039 --> 01:11:30,560
hope it does happen because I want to see it.

1469
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,079
If it doesn't, then makes us easier. But man, this

1470
01:11:33,159 --> 01:11:36,119
is like a almost feels too good to be true

1471
01:11:36,119 --> 01:11:38,439
for me because one of my favorite stories being adapted

1472
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,720
by a director that I absolutely love and respect and

1473
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,319
think it is just one of the best working Get

1474
01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:44,720
right now with the variation with one of my fair

1475
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,399
actors of all time, with an aesthetic that I think

1476
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,960
is just perfect to update this in that Christmas slot.

1477
01:11:50,039 --> 01:11:53,000
This is like, this has all makings to be something

1478
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:57,800
very special. So on the Chelsea side very excited for

1479
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,319
this movie, or the Chelsea side very excited for this movie,

1480
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,760
and then finally talk them about things were very excited

1481
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:10,319
for or a lack thereof Oh Saw. Let's end this

1482
01:12:10,359 --> 01:12:15,119
with Saw. So one interesting couple of years a where

1483
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,960
they put out Jake Saw. I guess it was I

1484
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,920
won't even count that they put out Circle. I think

1485
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:31,039
they did like feed to Men of Fine to Men. Also,

1486
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:33,479
I don't think it had the results that they wanted

1487
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:37,000
because we didn't get more of Chris Rock and Circle

1488
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:39,319
and that was left open, right, So it's like, okay, well

1489
01:12:39,359 --> 01:12:41,840
let's go back. Let's go back to you know where

1490
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,199
it all started. Let's go back to till mel Shawney Smith.

1491
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,800
Get Kevin Garrett in there, who directed the second best

1492
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,319
Saw film, Oh Spiral, Thank you it is in case

1493
01:12:51,319 --> 01:12:53,439
it does a spiral Saw, Circle, Circle something else, but

1494
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,680
thank you about its kind in the chair, appreciate it.

1495
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,880
So spire offsly no matter what it was called, they

1496
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,800
didn't make more of those. And then and then they

1497
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,359
do Saw ten. They get lots of the crew back

1498
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,279
ends on this very poetic ending, but it's like, well, no,

1499
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,640
we're gonna do more. And I would love to hear

1500
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,439
the trajectory of you know, they do Saw three D

1501
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,000
because the franchise starting to go downhill and they try

1502
01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:21,239
things like Jake Saw in Spiral and it just doesn't

1503
01:13:21,319 --> 01:13:24,600
catch fire. They do Saw ten and finally it seems

1504
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,520
like people are interested in that and that makes money.

1505
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,560
And then they go, well, we're gonna make Saw eleven

1506
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,079
and then things just fall apart. Now aw see, you know,

1507
01:13:34,119 --> 01:13:37,319
watch the studio. Things can fall apart a drop of

1508
01:13:37,359 --> 01:13:40,199
the dime. But you just kind of think like, oh, finally,

1509
01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:43,239
you guys are kind of winning the day. You've made

1510
01:13:43,279 --> 01:13:45,039
a little comeback with here, and you've found a good

1511
01:13:45,119 --> 01:13:48,399
niche of oh, we're gonna do prequels with tone Bell

1512
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,920
before he kicks the bucket and Saw three rights. But

1513
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:54,560
it's for like a ten twenty year old movie. You

1514
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,479
should know why. Now that's usually the mean and how

1515
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,439
they do so many He's dead. But anyways, if you

1516
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:03,239
didn't sar go watch those. But how it gets from

1517
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,079
MAKESAW ten one of the most successful ones we've done

1518
01:14:07,159 --> 01:14:09,960
for a while. We're making Saw eleven to Shaw, Saw

1519
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,079
eleven shuts down to We're not making any more Saw

1520
01:14:13,119 --> 01:14:15,840
films too. We're now sold the rights. I don't think

1521
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,199
it's sold, like it entirely owning them, but because they

1522
01:14:19,239 --> 01:14:21,800
I think they still say in partnership with Blumhouse. But

1523
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,960
I think it's and this is like even a bad comparison.

1524
01:14:24,039 --> 01:14:26,039
It's like the way that how Marvel can make a

1525
01:14:26,399 --> 01:14:29,680
Spider Man film with the help of Sony, and even

1526
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,560
then it's like it's a Sony movie, but Marvel pretty

1527
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,399
much makes it. I don't think it even it's that.

1528
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,600
I think it's just Blumhouse just kind of or sorry,

1529
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,680
I think it's just Lion's Kate is kind of getting

1530
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,319
a cut of the money. I could be wrong, but

1531
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,520
that's what it sounds like, where it's just kind of like, yeah,

1532
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,760
we've bought that, we've leased the rights, we're renting the

1533
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:51,159
rights for a little bit. So I'm of a few

1534
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,359
minds of this because that means, yeah, I saw eleven

1535
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,840
tone Bell that's official dead. And it's tough because I've

1536
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,880
always been like, hey, I've you know, some people like

1537
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,520
this thinking. Some people don't say I am with Hugh Jackman.

1538
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,760
They're great in the role. If they're alive and want

1539
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,399
to do it. It's not a complete, just dog shit

1540
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,760
story movie. That's let's make it happen. Totem Bells. Jigsaw's great,

1541
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,079
He's a horror icon. That's a fantastic performance and a

1542
01:15:18,119 --> 01:15:21,960
very fun character. Uh and if it was it showed

1543
01:15:22,119 --> 01:15:26,760
in Saw ten having him back it actively makes movies better.

1544
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,239
The less and less he was in a lot of

1545
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:30,720
those sequels. That wasn't the main issue, but it definitely

1546
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:36,680
you could feel it, right, So what was I gonna say?

1547
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:42,039
It's going somewhere. But either way, so you lose him

1548
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,399
and that that that can be a blow, but there's

1549
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:48,399
probably time for like a rechange. Oh it's going for

1550
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:54,439
a certain point there, damn it. But anyways, so it's

1551
01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:58,359
it's interesting because oh that's where I was going as

1552
01:15:58,359 --> 01:15:59,960
far as like I want it. So it's like, okay,

1553
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:03,359
would I rather have you know, no Saw at all

1554
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,760
or Saw eleven or Saw a bloodhouse. And that's all

1555
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,680
like depends alsoe when I can Saw eleven and if

1556
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,319
you say, hey, would you really have no Saw at all?

1557
01:16:12,399 --> 01:16:15,479
Or another Saw? I'm always down for another chance. I

1558
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,800
supposed to run in some titles here, Saw Rewirth, Saw

1559
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,279
twenty twenty seven, Saw Kill Science. Don't don't do that.

1560
01:16:22,399 --> 01:16:24,600
Don't do that. You might be right with We might

1561
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,520
get just the Saw the same over again, like I

1562
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,239
know what you did last summer again. It's just like

1563
01:16:28,279 --> 01:16:31,159
and it's not cold again. It's just the exact same title.

1564
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,600
So you found something that worked right, You got tone

1565
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,840
bill back tell some prequel stuff. But at the same time,

1566
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,199
this is where I was going. You were in a

1567
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,840
very very tight box. Those movies were always in a

1568
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,479
tight box to begin with because they had a certain

1569
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,640
time moment to play with. Where they were now is

1570
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,560
even more so. And that's something where it's like they

1571
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,720
do this twist right of like it's a trap, Like

1572
01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:57,520
it's a trap in Saw ten. There's a twist that

1573
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,960
kind of reveals what the trap does, which was fine,

1574
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:02,960
But to me, when you play Hell Zip and you

1575
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:06,319
do the whole big reveal, that's all about the twists

1576
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:08,760
and turns and who character was sneaking this and who

1577
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,600
was doing that? Just doing how the trap actually like okay,

1578
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,359
like now we're here for the lore, we're here for

1579
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:16,560
the characters, here for the story. At least, I am right.

1580
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,000
So it's like the Twist and the Trassic. That's fine,

1581
01:17:19,039 --> 01:17:21,760
but you could no longer do that with Saw because

1582
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,000
you're stuck in this a little box. So I think

1583
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:27,079
that's good. I think you do need to if you're

1584
01:17:27,079 --> 01:17:30,079
not doing like even that. If you're asked me, what

1585
01:17:30,119 --> 01:17:35,079
should you do eleven or reboot again? Two minds, because

1586
01:17:35,119 --> 01:17:36,520
I'd like to see Tom Bell back, But at the

1587
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,319
same time, I think taking Topin Bell out of it,

1588
01:17:38,359 --> 01:17:40,039
let's say, okay, he's not coming back. We're just gonna

1589
01:17:40,039 --> 01:17:42,079
still use that universe, even though I still think they

1590
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:44,960
could have done much much in many things with carry

1591
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,319
Always and use Doctor Gordon, and they didn't. That was

1592
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:48,960
a layup for them. When they're talking about how he

1593
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:53,079
continues franchise, it was right fucking there. Don't understand it.

1594
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:58,439
I digress. The franchise overall definitely needs a fresh coat

1595
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:06,079
of paint. So oh, excuse me, Kim Blumhouse, do that.

1596
01:18:06,079 --> 01:18:09,000
That's my big concern. It's it's you know, it's a

1597
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,520
fifty to fifty James want getting back. That's great for him.

1598
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,119
Not sure he fell with the franchise because he directed

1599
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:15,920
one and then he wrote two and three and then

1600
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:17,399
he's just been an EP for the rest of them.

1601
01:18:17,399 --> 01:18:19,600
So he's getna paycheck. But I didn't know if it

1602
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,960
was a situation where because some creators are like, yeah,

1603
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,680
I made this thing and they took it off and

1604
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,600
did their own thing and cool whatever. I don't fall up,

1605
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,399
but I don't do a video and they don't really care.

1606
01:18:28,119 --> 01:18:30,880
Or there's people that like, oh, that's their baby, but

1607
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,640
they just accept like, well, it's Hollywood. I gotta move forward.

1608
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,119
I can't do anything about it. I'm not in a

1609
01:18:35,119 --> 01:18:37,439
position right And even to me, like some of the

1610
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,319
interviews he gave about saw, I didn't tell any something now,

1611
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,600
it just sounds like he was completely fine with like

1612
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:45,279
where it was, letting it go. Like he didn't say, like, man,

1613
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:47,439
i'd really like to like to me at times when

1614
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,720
James Cameron talks about terminators, like oh, you can still

1615
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,359
feel the love there, and he would like to be

1616
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,840
like all in those rights right where it was James

1617
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,680
Won and Saw. I never call that sounds I was

1618
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,359
like a great like, oh, been there, done that, you know.

1619
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:02,880
But now if it's the situation of Blumhouse gets in,

1620
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,720
he's in control, and maybe it is just like hey

1621
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,920
you did Saw, you know, take it, or it's a

1622
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,880
case that hey, no, actually I really want this, which

1623
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,319
is a cool full circle thing because that's what put

1624
01:19:14,359 --> 01:19:16,279
his career on the map, one of the biggest to

1625
01:19:16,319 --> 01:19:19,479
me independent movies ever as far as like getting a

1626
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,319
buzz and word out there, and maybe it's part of

1627
01:19:23,319 --> 01:19:25,000
the tour, is like I fucking hated all these ones

1628
01:19:25,039 --> 01:19:26,279
that are doing and that he can be like the

1629
01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:28,720
Stewart to stop some of that stuff. That's great too,

1630
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,560
you know, because he started with lew and l and

1631
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,239
I'd like to see lew Andel like work with him again.

1632
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:38,399
But that is the toughest thing where I guess I'll

1633
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:41,000
get to Blumhouse in a second with a fresh coat

1634
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:46,560
of paint. Easier said than done for Saw, like that

1635
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,640
first one, the way it's paced, how it's revealed, you

1636
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,119
can never do that again for someone that's seen Saw,

1637
01:19:53,119 --> 01:19:55,199
because you're always going to be If it is even

1638
01:19:55,239 --> 01:19:57,319
something similar to two guys in a bathroom and figuring

1639
01:19:57,359 --> 01:20:01,279
stuff out. The biggest moments, especially the big one. We

1640
01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:04,039
all know, it's very hard to recreate that or find

1641
01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:07,319
something similar to evoke that same emotion. And I think

1642
01:20:07,319 --> 01:20:09,319
that's why they haven't rebooted, because that's just like a

1643
01:20:10,319 --> 01:20:13,560
very tough thing to do, you know, Like that to me,

1644
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:19,000
the first Saw is a independent horror movie capturing lightning

1645
01:20:19,039 --> 01:20:21,000
in a bottle, you know. And don't get me wrong,

1646
01:20:21,079 --> 01:20:25,439
the sequels were great, but it's like the monkeys out

1647
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,479
of the bottle. You can't put it back in. You can't.

1648
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,359
That's why it's like you had to do two and

1649
01:20:29,399 --> 01:20:31,520
three with Jigsaw and then the rest of them. Jigsaw

1650
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,840
was always around with flashbacks and whatnot. Like, I just

1651
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:40,760
don't think you can. You can't never say never, but

1652
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,439
I don't think you can recreate some of the aspects

1653
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,439
that made Saw a viral or big sensation in the

1654
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,560
horror community, right. I think that's been a tough thing.

1655
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,760
But James want has said it sounds like they would

1656
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,239
be a reboot. I said, like, oh, if I ever

1657
01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:54,319
did someone Saw again, I have to be something very different.

1658
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,159
And I look forward to that to see what it

1659
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,560
could be. I love sawing them down to seas. That's

1660
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,640
where you asked me, Oh what would I do? Like, Oh,

1661
01:21:01,039 --> 01:21:03,039
let's see it, because you know what, I've had bad

1662
01:21:03,079 --> 01:21:06,119
Saws before and I'm still saw a fan, you know,

1663
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:11,039
so James wand good for him. That gives me some hope. Blumhouse,

1664
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:13,399
I need to pull up what's going on? But says,

1665
01:21:13,399 --> 01:21:15,439
who can we get in the Saw movies? Who's done

1666
01:21:16,079 --> 01:21:19,079
other James want movies? Can we get Momoa's John Kramer?

1667
01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:23,000
I don't think we're getting Momoa's John Kramer. Their a

1668
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:27,239
s bubs. I think because I think he's older now

1669
01:21:27,279 --> 01:21:29,920
they've worked together many times. They're not old or older,

1670
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,960
but in a different sense. Let me see here, uh

1671
01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:36,560
fifty one. I think Patrick Wilson would do great as

1672
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,039
far as doing his own take. I don't want someone

1673
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:42,840
to come in. That's the other thing too. You can't

1674
01:21:43,319 --> 01:21:45,520
you if you're doing a jigsaw, you have to change

1675
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,399
that character a bunch too. To me, that's like changing everything,

1676
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,800
changing the origin so he's not sick, and the thing

1677
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,359
with Jill and the kids changing like Adam and Gordon.

1678
01:21:55,399 --> 01:21:57,640
You can't reado that like it has to be top

1679
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,159
level and even then to me, you have to they

1680
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:02,079
miss their chance. To me, there are easy chances to

1681
01:22:02,079 --> 01:22:04,640
do doctor Gordon carry that on. They didn't. To me

1682
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,439
now it's like this is not at all connected at

1683
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,439
that now in the world, not a oh I knew

1684
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,760
John Cray whatever has been completely fresh to get new

1685
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,439
people aboard, right, which is tough. But Blumhouse, to me,

1686
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:22,479
I'm trying to find their current filmography for the past

1687
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:29,079
like five years. It's been very rocky there for me,

1688
01:22:29,319 --> 01:22:33,079
quality wise, not talking success wise, right, because Blumhouse and

1689
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:35,920
Jason Blum, they do a great job of hate. We're

1690
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,800
gonna make this for as cheap as we can, and

1691
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,159
not in the sense of like, oh, cheap actors are

1692
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:42,880
cheap whatever. Like I'm not saying they look to you,

1693
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:46,239
but just like they their ideas. Let's make a movie

1694
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,039
that has a budget that you know is respectable, but

1695
01:22:50,079 --> 01:22:55,399
you can't gaining a profit is much more easier than

1696
01:22:56,039 --> 01:22:58,039
a lot of other movies out there, right, you know,

1697
01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:01,079
a Superman Fantest for whatever. Let's keep it in a

1698
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:03,079
ballpark where even if we just break even, we can

1699
01:23:03,119 --> 01:23:04,800
make money elsewhere. And that's what's smart thing to do.

1700
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,359
Sony does have a lot of their movies too. Like,

1701
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,239
that's what I'm saying from business standpoint, that is very

1702
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:12,079
smart to do that. They can turn a profit easy

1703
01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:15,239
and move on to the next one. Right. I suppose

1704
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,520
if it was a reboot or a remake, I'd have

1705
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:22,039
it have to be similar, but then a different twist

1706
01:23:22,039 --> 01:23:24,319
than the original. Surprise. But that's I agree with you.

1707
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,800
But that's the tough thing is everyone's expecting the twist.

1708
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,800
It's like the tension's almost gone away because you're expecting

1709
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:35,479
something and I agree on a similar thing. I think

1710
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,119
what they need to do. The biggest thing is scale

1711
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:41,000
down again. We don't need, you know, people hanging from

1712
01:23:41,039 --> 01:23:43,199
a roof and there being ten thousand fans. We don't

1713
01:23:43,239 --> 01:23:47,560
need the trap where the ladies turning like a pig oven.

1714
01:23:48,319 --> 01:23:50,560
They need to go back. I think like the Saw

1715
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,319
one to three trusts, but really Saw one where she's like, hey,

1716
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:55,239
we put this guy in a room barbed wire and

1717
01:23:55,279 --> 01:23:57,319
he had to get out and these slices aries. Sorry,

1718
01:23:57,359 --> 01:23:59,680
it didn't work. I think you need to desperately go

1719
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,840
back to something like that. But with Blumhouse, it is

1720
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:11,960
tough because I think it's it's interesting because they have

1721
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:14,880
that formula and it's good into me. I was, much

1722
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,479
like the way I am with A twenty four Neon,

1723
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,079
big fans of them early on because I just like

1724
01:24:19,119 --> 01:24:20,600
you what they're doing, and I was enjoying a lot

1725
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:26,079
of their movies were Now I don't know what's going

1726
01:24:26,119 --> 01:24:27,640
on there, because I don't want to say that, oh,

1727
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,479
there's making movies just to try and quick term prof

1728
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,319
of it on the next one. I don't think it's that,

1729
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,920
but I will say there's enough film quality to make

1730
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,560
it feel like that. And I think they had a

1731
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,119
chance where they were the little studio that could right,

1732
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:41,840
and they did. And then when they got Halloween, I

1733
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,920
remember everybody, include myself, being very excited, like, wow, Plumbhouse,

1734
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,720
They've done a lot of great things. So it's a

1735
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,760
great thing of horror genres. We're gonna Halloween, We're gonna

1736
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:56,439
Jammy Lee back Man, We're winning now right right, Not

1737
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,279
so much Jason Blum, Slot Factory and see as I'm

1738
01:25:00,279 --> 01:25:03,119
not gonna go that far, but there is part of

1739
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,640
that that feels like that, at least some films feel

1740
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:12,119
like that. Wondering, don't be setting me up here. What

1741
01:25:12,279 --> 01:25:14,880
is your thoughts on Sean or Rook, fill me in

1742
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,479
on the chat. I don't know who Sean Rook is.

1743
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,159
Maybe I will want to buy my name. This is

1744
01:25:18,199 --> 01:25:20,960
a point star or something political. We'll see. We're gonna

1745
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,920
late here. I'm already later than I should be. But

1746
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,359
fill me in hunder Aggain, and then after I finished

1747
01:25:25,359 --> 01:25:26,680
this topic, I'll come back to the if it's a

1748
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,359
real person or whatnot. That's how to me, it just

1749
01:25:30,359 --> 01:25:32,600
feels like of lesser quality. It feels like it is

1750
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,520
just pumping out movies for the sake of well, this

1751
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,800
is cheap and we can get out there. And that

1752
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,960
might not be the situation. Maybe all these movies have

1753
01:25:39,399 --> 01:25:41,520
and I bet the filmmakers do, but I mean that

1754
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,760
from a studio perspective. Maybe they're all looking at them

1755
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,079
with tons of passion. For me, it's just because so

1756
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:50,039
many have missed in a row. It doesn't feel like

1757
01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:52,319
that per se. It feels even then like look at

1758
01:25:52,359 --> 01:25:54,319
I'm not saying it's salt, but that's where like look

1759
01:25:54,359 --> 01:25:56,760
at the MCU right in phase five. In the end

1760
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,279
of phase four. I'm not saying they're just push out,

1761
01:26:00,319 --> 01:26:02,000
but you could feel the quality go down because they're

1762
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:03,960
just pushing stuff out for the sake of getting out

1763
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,279
to fuel Disney plasts and to get box office receipts. Right,

1764
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:08,960
So that's why I mean, like not even slot wise,

1765
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,359
but let me look at like, and here's one, and

1766
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,359
here's a good example. I can finally say and even

1767
01:26:15,359 --> 01:26:18,159
this here, right Drop. I think Drop was a very

1768
01:26:18,279 --> 01:26:21,079
you know, fun little movie. I think that's one that

1769
01:26:21,119 --> 01:26:23,439
does not feel like slop. I think it didn't meet

1770
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,720
the potential I was hoping for it when I saw

1771
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:28,600
the gimmick of it, and I don't think it was

1772
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,079
It's not when i'd really rewatch again. But that was

1773
01:26:31,119 --> 01:26:34,600
something that I enjoyed. Wolfman made a lot of sense

1774
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,560
because Wolfman was coming off in visible with a Man,

1775
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,800
which is probably there's a time where us something like

1776
01:26:39,239 --> 01:26:42,199
like Blumhouse was putting out horror movies that were in

1777
01:26:42,319 --> 01:26:43,920
the top of horror movies or even top of the

1778
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,319
movies of the year, like a Visible Man made best

1779
01:26:46,359 --> 01:26:49,319
goal in geeks like a nominee. Right, I don't know

1780
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:54,199
last time Blumhouse has done that, but so let's see

1781
01:26:54,199 --> 01:26:56,880
so this year, so I'll count Drop that that's good,

1782
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,479
like good enough, right. I don't think that slop good performances.

1783
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,720
I'm really like Meghan Fay is doing. We'll see, but

1784
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:05,119
let's continue these women in the art. I've not seen this,

1785
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:08,520
so I can't be having an opinion. All I've heard

1786
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,800
is really really bad things. Okay, so the ones I

1787
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,760
haven't seen, I will go that route. Wolfman again, Here's

1788
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,359
where two the twenty five is different for me. I

1789
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,039
enjoyed Wolfman actually quite a bit I liked to take.

1790
01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:25,439
But that to me, you might say all the trust

1791
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,840
is hypocritical. Well, then I'm a hypocritic. I guess that

1792
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,239
for me is more Lee one l than it is Blomhouse.

1793
01:27:32,279 --> 01:27:34,359
But even then, they did division right, they help them

1794
01:27:34,359 --> 01:27:36,079
get the money, and they fund it, they produced it,

1795
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:40,520
so I'll still come as a win. Right, Let's see

1796
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:46,880
Speak No Evil. Yeah, it's fine, Like people know, I

1797
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,199
got issues with those movies because I just there's just

1798
01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:55,520
some stuff afraid. What was afraid? Was that that AI one? Yeah,

1799
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,800
so again I haven't seen that. But not good things imaginary,

1800
01:27:59,159 --> 01:28:03,439
not good Night Swim, not good five nights of Freddy's

1801
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,359
not good. Even the point where Jason Blum this week

1802
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,079
was like, yeah, he tried to be nice, but I

1803
01:28:07,119 --> 01:28:10,800
was like, yeah, we understand people's critiques, so this go around,

1804
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,399
we really want to try and to help and fix

1805
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,000
some of those. That's like, yeah, you need to say

1806
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,760
it wasn't great. EXA's is believer. I didn't hate like

1807
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,520
other people did, but I wouldn't call it great. But

1808
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,760
I thought it was. It was fine, it was passable.

1809
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:32,560
Was totally killer Oh not a fan of totally kill her? Not? No, No,

1810
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:36,079
the passenger haven't seen that one? Okay, see us red

1811
01:28:36,119 --> 01:28:41,479
door Nope, not good, sick, same thing that has its defenders.

1812
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,439
I did not enjoy that. I very disappointed me. Megan.

1813
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,680
Another disappointing one for me. The visitor. What was the visitor?

1814
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,279
I don't think I ever saw that one. No, I

1815
01:28:53,319 --> 01:28:55,439
did not. Vin Jones is in that. Look at that.

1816
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,920
Let's see and then Hallo and they them had a

1817
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,600
good good That's here's another thing. Bluemhouse movies have a

1818
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:10,920
very good pitch, but the the follow up not there.

1819
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,000
We'll talk about Halloween a second. The black phone, I

1820
01:29:14,039 --> 01:29:16,039
don't think that's slow. That's just one that didn't connect

1821
01:29:16,079 --> 01:29:18,600
with me. Dash Camp. I'll put them in the good category

1822
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,560
because that suffs always tells me good things. About that

1823
01:29:21,079 --> 01:29:25,239
house in the bio. I've never seen that paranormal activity.

1824
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:29,960
Do not seeing these Bengo hell Home Boy, this is

1825
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:33,079
the Night. The Purge movies is kind of went downhill.

1826
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,159
Just trying to find the next one freaky. I really enjoyed.

1827
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:38,279
That was good, Like I had a fun time with that.

1828
01:29:38,399 --> 01:29:41,039
I'm trying to find one that I loved. Though last

1829
01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:43,399
time I could say, hey, I loved and I think

1830
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,159
it was that. Yeah, in Visible Man twenty twenty. That's

1831
01:29:46,159 --> 01:29:50,720
been the only thing of this decade that I've enjoyed,

1832
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,000
which is kind of crazy, the like not enjoyed, but

1833
01:29:53,119 --> 01:29:55,920
like would put in a love category, Asba says, And

1834
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,920
Missileman was probably the one, the highest gross thing that

1835
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,720
you're gonna say released in early twenty twenty. Yeah, I

1836
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,479
think it was. I think it was top ten. That's

1837
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:05,720
your like Bad Boy one or run out right. But yeah,

1838
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,520
that's the thing for me where I do have some concern.

1839
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,199
But my hope is the same way with Wolf Man

1840
01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:14,880
or Invisible Man, that because James Wand's there, he'll kind

1841
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,159
of shepherd it. But I also wonder if that's just

1842
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:19,840
like a good play to be like, hey, we got

1843
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:24,399
James wand original creator. He could be hands on or

1844
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,479
he could just like, see a script here, pitch yeah,

1845
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,239
that sounds good, and go off to make kiss stuff,

1846
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:30,239
which she's fine to do. I'm not gonna hold him like,

1847
01:30:30,359 --> 01:30:31,760
I'm not gonna say, well, the next well has to

1848
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,520
be good because you said James Wan's like, no, definitely,

1849
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,039
we'll like in the future again. But that is a

1850
01:30:36,079 --> 01:30:38,000
knock being like, hey, you said he was there, but

1851
01:30:38,039 --> 01:30:40,920
that doesn't That didn't help us with the callity of it.

1852
01:30:41,039 --> 01:30:43,800
So we'll see. I think it's just too because also

1853
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,399
they have a lot of original ones. Let's see their

1854
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,640
upcoming film. We got another in Cities film. Uh soul

1855
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,199
me and May and tu Wich are in the same

1856
01:30:51,319 --> 01:30:54,399
universe Black Film two, which I did love that trailer.

1857
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,680
So I have, oh, oh, dash game I've never seen. Uh.

1858
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,439
The one I like is Spree Okay, there, I take

1859
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,319
that up back bub so dash Cam don't know, but

1860
01:31:04,399 --> 01:31:06,680
they this is where Blomhouse has a chance to win

1861
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,479
me back. I'm not saying Five Nights of Freddy Megan

1862
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,600
two looks like it could be a lot of fun,

1863
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,960
and I'll give that a chance. Could look like it's

1864
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,840
a like very meme worthy cringe wise, but it'd also

1865
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,439
be lots of fun. Black Phone two absolutely love that

1866
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,680
trailer on the idea, so that could get me five

1867
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,439
nights of Freddy. I'm not checking out all Soulmate that's

1868
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,079
in that universe of Megan, and it's pretty much that

1869
01:31:28,079 --> 01:31:32,640
Black Mere episode will our Piggy at Well has a

1870
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:34,760
husband played by donal Gleson. He dies and they get

1871
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:36,840
like a robot to replace him. But I'm down for

1872
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,439
a movie version of that. And then Lee Cronan doing

1873
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,520
the Mummy. That's a big the guy who Dead Evil

1874
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,119
Dead Rise, Yeah, that's a big win. So they have

1875
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:49,760
a chance and now a saw because to me, it's

1876
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,279
just that when they had a chance to to me evolve, right,

1877
01:31:54,319 --> 01:31:56,439
they were the little like because let me try to look,

1878
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:04,119
before they got Halloween, where's the first Halloween? So twenty eighteen,

1879
01:32:04,199 --> 01:32:07,239
so before then, like the Purge was when they're franchises,

1880
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,439
but they were doing stuff like truth their Dare and

1881
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,800
were creep Those are good happy deaf day. I'm making

1882
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,439
defender of those really split that split and then that's

1883
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,279
the thing get out, like that's where I remember the

1884
01:32:18,359 --> 01:32:20,560
run there on where they did split and then Get

1885
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,680
Out and evens on the Purge and Hush Mike Flannage's

1886
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,880
hush on Netflix. Like they had some really good movies early,

1887
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,479
and of course there's some crap in there too, like

1888
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:32,119
Sinister Sinister's phenomenal, you know. So that's where for me though,

1889
01:32:32,319 --> 01:32:37,079
they had these lower budget original ips that were popping off,

1890
01:32:37,359 --> 01:32:40,479
and then they got Halloween. And don't get me wrong,

1891
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,000
I think financially it did this, but I think all

1892
01:32:43,039 --> 01:32:44,760
of us as a studio were kind of like, wow,

1893
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,680
you know, the little engine that could making these horror

1894
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:51,279
movies that are lower budgets. There they got their hands

1895
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:53,000
on the big one. Let's see what they can do.

1896
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,880
I thought Halloween was fine, and then the sequels had

1897
01:32:57,079 --> 01:32:59,720
even more issues. And I think most people, even if

1898
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,199
you cause I know aspects you're holing to three Defender,

1899
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,159
I think most people would say that trilogy as a whole,

1900
01:33:06,319 --> 01:33:09,359
not time one film specifically as a whole is not

1901
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:14,239
looked upon fondly. It looks like they kind of stumbled it, right, so,

1902
01:33:14,359 --> 01:33:16,079
which is not a great thing. So that's where it's like,

1903
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:19,079
you have some big ip at the Mummy and Saw

1904
01:33:19,159 --> 01:33:20,760
coming up. This to me is kind of like a

1905
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,119
redo and to me, if like Megan, I'm not so

1906
01:33:24,199 --> 01:33:28,039
concerned about but if the Mummy and Saw and there's

1907
01:33:28,039 --> 01:33:29,720
another one in there, I read where it's like this

1908
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,680
is all kind of letdowns. It kind of knows. I

1909
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,720
think we kind of know where Blumhouse is as far

1910
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,800
as like a studio and what they're gonna be doing

1911
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,479
for the rest of life. And that's fine. It's still

1912
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,640
business after all, right, and that's great, and I appreciate that.

1913
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,760
I guarantee there's tons of young filmmakers or your filmmakers

1914
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,159
getting shots and that other places wouldn't get them shots,

1915
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:49,880
so that's great. I'm just looking at this like an

1916
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,079
analytical level and just as a fan of like Okay,

1917
01:33:52,359 --> 01:33:54,479
lately not things I like, but maybe by the time

1918
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,880
we get to Saw there will be That's everything. I

1919
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,399
will answer these questions. I was gonna say I Spobs.

1920
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,199
I was gonna say Exorcist Believers and David Gordon Green

1921
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:06,479
Director's Jail, But apparently he released a hula movie ben

1922
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:09,199
Still last year that I never heard of. If it's

1923
01:34:09,239 --> 01:34:13,439
the movie I'm thinking of, I think it's the movie

1924
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:19,239
where he has he's adopted like his sister's kids or

1925
01:34:19,239 --> 01:34:24,359
something that extress that exorcist believer poster is fucking terrifying, though,

1926
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:29,279
David Gordon Green, let's see film aography. Can I find it?

1927
01:34:30,119 --> 01:34:32,960
The Nutcrackers? Yeah, he did do that. Another one that

1928
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,039
I think it's like Rod and Round of Males. I

1929
01:34:35,119 --> 01:34:37,800
really enjoy that. I like that. The movie is like

1930
01:34:38,319 --> 01:34:41,399
if you like heartwarming stuff, I think it it works

1931
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,159
good if you like Ben Still any kind of plays

1932
01:34:43,159 --> 01:34:46,800
that kind of you know, pretentious asshole. It's about it's

1933
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:50,439
about I can't remember if it's both. I think it's

1934
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,680
both where it's like his sister and her husband dialing

1935
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,960
in a car accident or something, and they had like

1936
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,479
my situation, like five kids in like a big farm,

1937
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,920
and for me, it's this heartwarming thing of him trying

1938
01:35:00,079 --> 01:35:02,439
to he didn't feel like he's good enough to raise

1939
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,199
these kids, so he's trying to find a family to

1940
01:35:05,039 --> 01:35:07,840
raise them and take them in. To me, I thought

1941
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,680
it had a lot of heart in it and it

1942
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,399
was a good, like little moment for him to do

1943
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,039
something different the director. But that didn't go good for him,

1944
01:35:15,039 --> 01:35:17,600
So I don't know what's next. I think those Halloween

1945
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,840
movies extualist and then Nutcrackers, which I don't think is

1946
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,600
I like it, but I think Ianizone didn't like it.

1947
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,560
It's not reprehensibly bad, but it feels like, oh, that's

1948
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,119
a bunch of bad movies in a row. You're out.

1949
01:35:28,279 --> 01:35:30,720
I don't know, all right, Hunter, you didn't fill me in,

1950
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,479
So now I'm curious. Sean o'rooke, there not be some porns.

1951
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:40,600
Start giving me a bunch of you know whatever, let's

1952
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:52,119
see Irish journalist. Okay, I don't know. I think this

1953
01:35:52,199 --> 01:35:56,319
is a topic that doesn't that I would need a

1954
01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:03,159
lot more. Looks like there's something to do with a crime. Hunter,

1955
01:36:05,279 --> 01:36:07,359
you set me up for whatever I did not want, Like,

1956
01:36:07,399 --> 01:36:09,760
look at this first thing I find Judge Moule's fate

1957
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,680
of police offered charge and fatal on duty shooting. Like

1958
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,880
that's exactly like, don't set me up or something. I

1959
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,680
have no opinion because I have no I have no

1960
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,479
idea who that person is and no idea what the

1961
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,399
situation is. So not the show. I'm sure there's somebody

1962
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,079
out there that does that, but not the show. Here,

1963
01:36:26,119 --> 01:36:28,800
I just talk about stupid shit, like not stupid shit,

1964
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,600
but just you know, break from the real world, like

1965
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,560
Superman and other people in tights and Saw and Christmas

1966
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,399
Carol and why I'm bitter, you know, but I can't

1967
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,880
wait for Christmas Carol. Thank you everyone for tuning in

1968
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:46,279
this episode. Cross We didn't storm out, made it. There's

1969
01:36:46,279 --> 01:36:49,600
a whole storm rain everything promising. Ever the next not

1970
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:50,119
be boring.