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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Left Striving Yes, yes, I know aka Survivor Man,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Outisen. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to Sasquatch Odds. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>being with us for the show. It is Friday. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you're having a fantastic a week. We have an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing guest line up for you. But as always, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start by inviting you. If you've had an

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<v Speaker 1>encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot

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<v Speaker 1>me an email you get me at Brian at Paranormberworldproductions

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Get head over to the website, check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>become a member there and help support the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to sit down and talk to Tasha from North Dakota,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out she's had quite a few experiences

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<v Speaker 1>with Bigfoot right here in my backyard in the Ure

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<v Speaker 1>National Forest here in North Carolina. I'll let Tasha tell

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<v Speaker 1>you all about that in just a second, really quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>family over there as well. But enough of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you guys are ready to get into it. Tasha's

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<v Speaker 1>on the line, She's ready to go. All this left

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<v Speaker 1>for you to do is sit back, relax, and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the show. One of our guests of the show, it

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<v Speaker 1>is Tasha from North Dakota. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I'm glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get right into it. Let's talk about this big

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<v Speaker 1>fit think what got you interested in the subject to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with?

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in East Texas, born and raised. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad was actually originally from Arkansas. I grew up hearing

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stories from him. He had quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few things that had happened to him growing up and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So as a young kid, I never really took part

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<v Speaker 2>in it. I just thought, oh, there's spooky stories. The

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<v Speaker 2>very first thing I remember ever happening that was very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably about four years old. My dad used

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<v Speaker 2>to take me and my brother and my uncle liked

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<v Speaker 2>to go along. We like to go fishing. He'd put

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<v Speaker 2>us on the back of this little tractor that he restored.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd read on the wheel wells. We'd go across this

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<v Speaker 2>little land bridge between this pond on the back part

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<v Speaker 2>of our property. We rented a property from dairy farmer

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<v Speaker 2>my dad worked for. We'd go down. There's a place

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<v Speaker 2>called Black Creek Lake. A part of that lake actually

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<v Speaker 2>fed into the back part of this property. So we'd

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<v Speaker 2>all get on this trapper and we'd go down. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>go fishing, Me and my brother. We'd hop off when

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<v Speaker 2>we'd get there and tell us go play. We make

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<v Speaker 2>mud pies or whatever. Play with frogs. That's all we

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<v Speaker 2>did as kids. He and my uncle would go down

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<v Speaker 2>the bank and they'd go fishing. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>long we were there for, not very long, and we

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<v Speaker 2>started hearing this noise. You know what a bullfrog sound makes,

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<v Speaker 2>like a wool noise, and that's the noise we heard,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was a lot louder, a lot deeper, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot longer. My brother and I went over to

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. I was like, what are that noise? And

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<v Speaker 2>he was, I don't know, it'd be quiet. Let's listen.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were listening, and it was getting louder and

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<v Speaker 2>closer and louder and closer. In this area that we

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<v Speaker 2>were at, the other side of this bank wasn't very far.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say maybe probably about thirty feet forty feet from

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<v Speaker 2>one side of the bank to the other because it

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<v Speaker 2>fed into the bigger part of the lake. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we were sitting there listening and we could hear snapping

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<v Speaker 2>and popping and branches and stuff being broke, and we

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<v Speaker 2>could hear that noise. It was getting so loud. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad he's y'all go get back while the tracker new stature.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad was one of those guys that he was

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<v Speaker 2>very roping tumble. You listened when he told you to

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<v Speaker 2>do something. So we ran up on the track room

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<v Speaker 2>and we sat there. The embankment kind of comes down,

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<v Speaker 2>so the tracker was sitting up on the higher part

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad Muk were down by the water. They

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<v Speaker 2>were looking. We could hear him talking, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>looking across and everything, and we saw this big, dark,

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<v Speaker 2>brownish black thing kind of start coming out towards the water.

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<v Speaker 2>It spooked my dad. Just so you know, my dad's

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<v Speaker 2>not one of those kind of people that get scared

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<v Speaker 2>very easily. He's a very rugged person. It spooked on

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<v Speaker 2>bad enough. They left their rods actually, and they came

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<v Speaker 2>up to the tractor.

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<v Speaker 1>We left.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was about when I was probably four years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't remember ever going back down there after that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my only memory of that and when that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say that was probably the first time

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<v Speaker 2>anything ever like that when it comes to a sasquatch

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<v Speaker 2>or anything happening to me. The next time that I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I was about fifteen years old. This would have been

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<v Speaker 2>back in two thousand and one. It was in the fall.

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<v Speaker 2>It was cold, so I'd say it was probably October November.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a weekend and I was staying the night

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<v Speaker 2>at a friend's house. Her older brother, his name was Joey,

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<v Speaker 2>who was home from the Navy on leave. I liked

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<v Speaker 2>her brother, so I was like, I'll want to stay

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<v Speaker 2>a night at your house. So I went over and

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<v Speaker 2>Stead and I at her house. It was probably about midnight,

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock and Joey comes out and he's, hey, my

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<v Speaker 2>Peter and everything's over at my grandparents' house. Why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we walk over there and I'll burn you guys some

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<v Speaker 2>CDs back of the day, that's what they did, burn

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<v Speaker 2>CDs for music. And I was like, oh, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds cool. So now, this property sat between the outskirts

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<v Speaker 2>of Bridgeport and Chico, Texas, in between these two towns,

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<v Speaker 2>or these big rock quarries. They're full with water if

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<v Speaker 2>you're familiar with what rock quarries are. Their house was

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<v Speaker 2>situated in the country part like in between that. Their

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<v Speaker 2>house was probably about half a mile from their grandparents' house,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were all on the same piece of land.

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<v Speaker 2>East Texas is actually very wooded, so they had this

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<v Speaker 2>path that went from their house to the grandparents' house

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<v Speaker 2>through the woods. It was just like this mashed down footpath.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't super visible, but it was there. So Joey suggested, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we cut through here so we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to go all the way around on the dirt road.

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<v Speaker 2>Like okay, we didn't have flashlights. It was actually a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty bright moving out. We could see everything. We could

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<v Speaker 2>see each other pretty well. We could see the outline

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<v Speaker 2>of the trees and everything. So we leave there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably like I said, about midnight, one o'clock. We leave

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<v Speaker 2>there and we start out on this trail. It goes

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<v Speaker 2>out from the back of their house and it leads

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<v Speaker 2>up to the back door of their grandparents' trailer house.

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<v Speaker 2>So we start out and we're walking. We're just talking rollow,

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<v Speaker 2>whispern and everything. I said. Joey was older and he

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<v Speaker 2>was a smoker at the time, so he WoT up

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<v Speaker 2>a cigarette and I was like, I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good idea. He's like, oh, it's not that big

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<v Speaker 2>of a deal. He was leading us. Amber was in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle and I was close up to her at

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<v Speaker 2>the back. I'm walking. I'm whispering to Amber. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what we were talking about. I can't remember. It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably something about music. Over to my left side, I

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<v Speaker 2>could hear something behind to my left. At first, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a light crunching sound, and I stopped him.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, hey, guys, listen, do you hear that. They

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<v Speaker 2>were like, no, I don't hear anything like something's moving

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<v Speaker 2>over hearing's okay, let's just keep moving. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, didn't think too much of it, so we

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<v Speaker 2>kept walking. Probably about ten seconds later, could hear it again,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a lot closer. So I stopped them

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, guys, you don't hear that. Listen. So

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<v Speaker 2>we stood there for about thirty seconds, maybe a minute listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I didn't hear anything. I'm like, there's something moving

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<v Speaker 2>over here. Joey's we have tattle back over on that

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<v Speaker 2>side of the property where my dad's at. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how far away is that? He knows that's way over there,

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<v Speaker 2>right behind fences, and he said, yeah, they are. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one of them got out. I said, okay, let's hurry

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<v Speaker 2>up and get there. So maybe we should cut through

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<v Speaker 2>and head over towards the road. He was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do that. Because we could see better, there was

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<v Speaker 2>more vision. We started to cut off this trail and

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<v Speaker 2>make our own trail onto the gravel road. So as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as we get onto the gravel road, we all

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<v Speaker 2>hear whatever this is was right there. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>it was right there. We all stopped. We could all

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. It was so close. I feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>it would have reached out, it could have touched us.

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<v Speaker 2>We could hear it breathing. It was a very deep, raspy,

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<v Speaker 2>almost like somebody had a hard time catching their breath,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was very deep and uneven. We were just froze.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't say anything. After we all realized we could

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<v Speaker 2>hear this. Whatever this was, it growled at us, and

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<v Speaker 2>it growled so long, loud, and deep that we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even stand around long enough to let it finish growling.

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<v Speaker 2>We took off as fast as we could. We ran

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<v Speaker 2>to the back porch of his grandparents place. We went

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<v Speaker 2>inside and we were just in shock. What just happened?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that? I was like, okay, we were going

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<v Speaker 2>through everything that it could have been in this area. Growls.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a wild hog. A wild hog doesn't growl,

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<v Speaker 2>so we can scratch that. Maybe a kyote that a

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<v Speaker 2>kyote doesn't breathe like that. We don't have wolves. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going through everything we could think of. What you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we did have cougars? Are like, what about a cougar?

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<v Speaker 2>That was too deep and too heavy. It did not

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<v Speaker 2>sound like a cougar. Obviously, a cougar is probably not

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<v Speaker 2>going to let you know it's there until it's on

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<v Speaker 2>you or trying to kill you. So we scratched that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know what it was. We get into the

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, like what. And so my uncle,

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<v Speaker 2>he works for the Rock Quarries ever in Chico, and

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<v Speaker 2>something cross the road. He doesn't know what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, he doesn't know what it was. He said

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<v Speaker 2>it was some sort of weird thing. How far away

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<v Speaker 2>was at and he said it was about three miles

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<v Speaker 2>from here. I was like, oh, really, so that was creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was when I really started to think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what could this have been. It bothered me for a

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<v Speaker 2>very long time. Then I put it in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of my head. I didn't really think of it too much,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started getting onto Facebook and I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>into bigfoot groups and stuff like that. I met some

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<v Speaker 2>and seeing some things and whatnot, So I brought it

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<v Speaker 2>up to them. Basically was told that very well could

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<v Speaker 2>have been a sasquatch creature, so that would be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I never saw anything, but whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't explain the sounds. I can't explain what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that when we stopped, whatever it was stopped

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make a sound when we would stop, but as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as we would start walking, could hear it walking.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was very strange. That is the main one

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<v Speaker 2>that really got me thinking about this whole subject and

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<v Speaker 2>really got me involved more into this whole realm of

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<v Speaker 2>these creatures. After that encounter or experience, I had many

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal things happen now, going back to when I was

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<v Speaker 2>when we lived in that house, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times me, your dad, and your grandma would sit

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<v Speaker 2>out in the porch and we would hear things, just

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<v Speaker 2>strange noises, strange hoots and howls, stuff crashing through the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, it sounded like a bulldozer comes through the woods. Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, really, I said, you never told me

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff before. She's like, I didn't want to scare

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<v Speaker 2>you because we played in those woods all the time

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<v Speaker 2>we were outside. We played in the woods, so you'd

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<v Speaker 2>always go down to the creek stuff like that. She

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<v Speaker 2>said they'd also sit out there and they'd watch these lights,

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<v Speaker 2>she called them dancing lights. They'd sit out there on

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<v Speaker 2>I'd see these lights just danced around in the trees

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<v Speaker 2>or just above the trees. She thought that was the

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<v Speaker 2>weirdest thing. Never really brought it up to me before,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mentioned it to her a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, you remember those dancing lights, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard from some people on your show and other

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<v Speaker 2>shows that kind of correlates with some of these happenings

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<v Speaker 2>that go on. I said, very strange for Amound. So

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<v Speaker 2>back in two thousand and two, I started going down

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<v Speaker 2>to North Carolina. I was invited to go on an

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<v Speaker 2>expedition or hike, however you want to call it, on

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<v Speaker 2>a friend's property. They used to hunt. This friend had

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<v Speaker 2>reports of all kinds of stuff going on, things coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>slapping in his house. It got to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>he and his brother wouldn't go hunting in these woods

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<v Speaker 2>alone anymore. I was invited to come out with a

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<v Speaker 2>group of us and go hiking. I get there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of person that I don't go out into

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<v Speaker 2>the woods without being armed. So we were all armed.

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<v Speaker 2>We go out into the woods, we're hiking back. We

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<v Speaker 2>get back probably about three or four miles into the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been here my whole life. I'm completely reliant

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<v Speaker 2>on this gentleman to know where he's at and how

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<v Speaker 2>to get back. I started getting a little bit nervous

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<v Speaker 2>because not nowhere where I am, not knowing the area.

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<v Speaker 2>I just told him, well, you know what, why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we just stop here, collect our a little bit, Because

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<v Speaker 2>I like to stop, look around, check where I'm at,

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<v Speaker 2>look behind me, every ten to twenty paces. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we're right

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<v Speaker 1>back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>So I stop. I'm just getting a breather, getting a

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<v Speaker 2>drink of water, and I just had this feeling turn around,

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<v Speaker 2>check where you are. And when I turn around, I

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<v Speaker 2>see this big black mass of something. This is October.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaves have fallen off. You can see pretty well through

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<v Speaker 2>the trees. There's still greener ear or anything. Really. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking and I see this big black mass and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, come here, do you see that? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pointing it out and they're like, yeah, I see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking around everywhere else. I'm doing a scan of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole area. There's nothing else in this area that

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<v Speaker 2>looks like what I'm looking at. So I get my

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<v Speaker 2>phone out and i'm videoing, and i'm topping just in case.

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<v Speaker 2>As in videoing. Mind you you know what the woods

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<v Speaker 2>are like. You can't see straight to this thing. There's

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<v Speaker 2>things that are in the way. So I see this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, shift its weight from one side to

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<v Speaker 2>the other, just enough of a movement to where I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it move. So it took my breath away. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't expect it to move. I catched my breath and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it just moved. Holy crap, it just moved.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I start to get nervous. I put my phone

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<v Speaker 2>away and I didn't look at it right away. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know if I caught anything on camera or not.

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<v Speaker 2>We continue hiking a little bit. I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in my mind. I'm nervous I'm ready to go,

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<v Speaker 2>So I tell everybody, look, I'm ready to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of here. Let's go back the way we went back.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew we were going to have to cut back

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<v Speaker 2>around where it was that we saw this thing because

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<v Speaker 2>it was following from my perspective where we were. So

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<v Speaker 2>the direction we came in is the direction we'll leave.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna have to go buy this area of

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<v Speaker 2>this thing was standing. I'm really nervous because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if this thing's still there. We cut back and

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<v Speaker 2>we'd come around this great big tree where I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this is the area it was standing where it

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<v Speaker 2>was the landowner, his oldest son, my other friend, and I,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was four of us. We all at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time walk into this smell. It was like a blanket.

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<v Speaker 2>One second you smell it, one second you don't. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're walking and all of a sudden, it hits this

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<v Speaker 2>like a wall, this absolute pungent smell of death. It

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<v Speaker 2>smells like rotting flesh. It's really hard to describe. It

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<v Speaker 2>was putrid, very strong. It smelled like death. It just

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<v Speaker 2>smelled like something was dead and rotting. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>an old smell, you know what I mean. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like an aged, musty death smell. As quick as we

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<v Speaker 2>walked in to it, and we're standing there in the

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<v Speaker 2>same spot, it's gone. We haven't moved, but this smell

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<v Speaker 2>is gone. It's almost like we walked into the smell

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<v Speaker 2>and then it left us. So without us moving, this

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<v Speaker 2>smell just disappeared. We walked all around the area within

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<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen feet of the same area and couldn't snaw

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<v Speaker 2>anything up. When down, when we couldn't snaw anything anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just gone. Very strange. We took note of

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<v Speaker 2>that and just said, Okay, that was really weird. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just go. So then we left. That was that experience

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<v Speaker 2>in that day. Later on, I go through my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this video and I'm going back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>clip to clip. I can just barely, and it's very

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<v Speaker 2>hard to see, but just barely you can see if

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<v Speaker 2>this black mass shift its weight just ever so slightly,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not even two three inches. You can just see

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<v Speaker 2>it just enough to move. You can't see detail or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just a black thing that moves, and it's tall.

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<v Speaker 2>You can make out what looks like maybe a head

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<v Speaker 2>and a shoulder, and then it just shifts to one side,

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<v Speaker 2>but other than that, not a lot, a blob spot

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, just a dark thing. Then let's see

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<v Speaker 2>here wet hiking several times in the general area. So

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<v Speaker 2>are you familiar with the Yi Mountains in North Carolina?

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<v Speaker 2>By chance?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Okay, the famous stump in the West Morris campground

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<v Speaker 2>where they have the candy bar and this thing crawls

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<v Speaker 2>up and grabs the candy bar off the stump. You're

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<v Speaker 2>where that story. I went to this place. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a West Morris campground. It's in the Uri Mountains in

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. It's very out there in the woods. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot around it. There's a spot, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>parking spot, number ten. That's the famous number ten spot

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<v Speaker 2>where all that happened. I pull in. This is my

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<v Speaker 2>first time ever there and by myself. Actually had my

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<v Speaker 2>little dog Dixie with me. She's a little cordy. She

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<v Speaker 2>likes to travel with me. I pull in. I have

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<v Speaker 2>every intention on staying the night. Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in East Texas. I'm not really afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>the woods or to be by myself. This would be

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<v Speaker 2>nice somewhere new. I knew about this area from a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine it lived several miles away, but knew

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<v Speaker 2>the area. Had gone hiking in this area several times.

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<v Speaker 2>I pull in number ten. I parked facing out. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be messing around. Back in and

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<v Speaker 2>I set everything up. I car camping. I don't set

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<v Speaker 2>up a tent or anything. I'm just conquered down. It's

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<v Speaker 2>actually been raining, so you can hear the rain drops

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff on the car. Nobody's in there. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>a weekday. Funny thing is there's not really a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people in that area that like to go out

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<v Speaker 2>when it's raining. So I was by myself, nobody around.

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<v Speaker 2>I get out, I get Dixie out. We go for

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<v Speaker 2>a walk around the campground, just to get myself familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with what's around, who's around, if anybody's there, Just to

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<v Speaker 2>familiarize myself with the area. Get her a good walk,

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<v Speaker 2>and come back. Get her in the car. Just lay down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's getting dark at that time, by seven eight o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>at night. I'm just watching a movie on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the two front windows cracked maybe about an inch,

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<v Speaker 2>just enough to get a little bit of airflow and

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<v Speaker 2>so I can hear. I have my handgun beside me.

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<v Speaker 2>There's cup holders in the back of my car, and

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<v Speaker 2>actually fit a full sized blow up mattress in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>It was perfect. So I have my little handgun sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in a cup holder. I slept with my shotgun inside

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<v Speaker 2>of me. I'm more afraid of people. I'll just put

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<v Speaker 2>it that way if I have my shotgun inside of me.

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<v Speaker 2>My dog Dixie had her little bed in the front

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<v Speaker 2>passenger fullboard. That's just where she wanted to stay. It's

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<v Speaker 2>her where her little bed fit. So she was down there.

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear something almost like a gravel approach, because

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<v Speaker 2>where we park it's gravelly. I could hear what sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like gravel. So I stopped my movie. I'm listening. I

414
00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:59.680
<v Speaker 2>don't hear anything. I start my movie. I have the

415
00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:02.839
<v Speaker 2>vall way way down, and again I hear this proch

416
00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:06.559
<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, okay, So I put my phone down.

417
00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:09.839
<v Speaker 2>It's completely pitch dark, can't see anything, can't see your

418
00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:12.720
<v Speaker 2>hand in front of your face. I make sure I

419
00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:16.119
<v Speaker 2>can feel my gun, decided me just in case. And

420
00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm listening and I hear this. It almost sounded like

421
00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>a wolf howl, but not It was more guttural so

422
00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:29.279
<v Speaker 2>when you hear a wolf howl, you've got that distinctive sound. Okay,

423
00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.519
<v Speaker 2>it didn't sound like that. It sounded more like a yell.

424
00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:36.359
<v Speaker 2>It was enough to get my attention and my dog's attention.

425
00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:39.039
<v Speaker 2>She jumped in the back and she was right up

426
00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>on my chest and she was shaking. She didn't growl,

427
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:44.640
<v Speaker 2>she didn't bark, she didn't anything. She didn't even whimper.

428
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Whatever this thing was that we went out this noise.

429
00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I could hear what sound like it was walking around

430
00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.119
<v Speaker 2>my car. Not close, but I could hear it moving

431
00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:59.279
<v Speaker 2>around my car. So I'm like, okay, if this is

432
00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:03.440
<v Speaker 2>a person, because I'm not familiar with this area, If

433
00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:06.039
<v Speaker 2>this is a person, I'm not going to say anything

434
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.799
<v Speaker 2>until they get close enough to the car. I didn't

435
00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 2>think it was a person just because there was no flashlights.

436
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:18.079
<v Speaker 2>There was no cars. This camp ground is somewhat close

437
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.400
<v Speaker 2>to a highway, so when cars go by, you can

438
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 2>hear cars, especially at night, because it reverberates off of

439
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.680
<v Speaker 2>the forest, you can hear it. I didn't hear any cars,

440
00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>so if this was a person, they would have been

441
00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:34.759
<v Speaker 2>walking in the dark. There was absolutely no sight of

442
00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.920
<v Speaker 2>any flashlights, anything to tell me that it might have

443
00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:40.000
<v Speaker 2>been a person. I'll just put it that way. They

444
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 2>would have had to walk in the dark, unable to

445
00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:44.160
<v Speaker 2>see your hand in from your face. You're going to

446
00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 2>kill yourself in the woods. I started getting nervous. I

447
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>started to slide down into my driver's side to turn

448
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.079
<v Speaker 2>the car on. When I did that, all the noise quit.

449
00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:58.319
<v Speaker 2>It was still lightly raining. I could hear the rain

450
00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:01.440
<v Speaker 2>that all the other noise quit. I got into my

451
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 2>car driver's side had turned a car and lights came on.

452
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I've turned the brights on. I couldn't see anything. I

453
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:12.240
<v Speaker 2>had a big flashlight. It was very bright. I got

454
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:16.039
<v Speaker 2>that out and I actually somehow had the courage to

455
00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:18.799
<v Speaker 2>get out of my car, just stand beside my door

456
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and skin around the car, around one side, around where

457
00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm at. I didn't see anything, no eyes shine, nothing.

458
00:24:26.440 --> 00:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Got back in my car, shut the car off, locked

459
00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>all the doors. I didn't hear anything for the rest

460
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:33.720
<v Speaker 2>of the night. It was very strange. My dog didn't

461
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>leave my side. She's not usually one to bark and stuff,

462
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>but when she's home, if there's kayats around, she'll bark.

463
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 2>So she didn't make a noise. So that was very

464
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:47.480
<v Speaker 2>unusual of her. That's that experience. After that, I'd been

465
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:50.119
<v Speaker 2>back to that area numerous times, even with my kids

466
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:53.200
<v Speaker 2>would come over with me, travel with me, and we'd

467
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.319
<v Speaker 2>go hike, not very far. We'd just hike around the

468
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>campground and stuff. But my daughter she wanted to leave

469
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.200
<v Speaker 2>peanut Butter out. I was like, all right, something fun

470
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 2>for her to do, So I took her back. Probably

471
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:08.759
<v Speaker 2>you could still see the car. We walked into the

472
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 2>woods just over this little brook down from the campground.

473
00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe hundred yards into the woods. You

474
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 2>could still see the car. I was like, this might

475
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 2>be a good spot to set it here. She puts

476
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>it down and we walk out go home. By a

477
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>week later, two weeks later, I come back to the

478
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>area and I'm like, I'm gonna go see if anything

479
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.880
<v Speaker 2>was messed with. Jar was gone. It was like, what

480
00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 2>that sucks because I don't really like leaving the jar

481
00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>out there. But we couldn't find it. A friend of

482
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>mine actually came there a couple so it was he

483
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>and his wife came out with me and we were

484
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>hiking around and we went back to this little brook.

485
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 2>They were gonna do a video for his YouTube channel,

486
00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>and I just told him. I was like, I feel weird,

487
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>let's just hurry up. Probably about twenty seconds acher, I

488
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 2>said that this is a rock that got thrown at

489
00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:02.680
<v Speaker 2>us down off the side of the mountain. Just to

490
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 2>give new perspective size with my hand in this rock.

491
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:10.079
<v Speaker 2>It's actually got pretty decent weight to it. This rock

492
00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>comes up through the trees, so not down up the

493
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.519
<v Speaker 2>side of this mountain. It was through the top of

494
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 2>the trees. Because you could hear it through the top

495
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 2>of the trees. We watch it hit the other side

496
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>of the embankment from where we were standing. You feel

497
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.519
<v Speaker 2>the thudt it hit. We watched it roll down in

498
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the leaves towards the brook we were standing at. We

499
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>all froze, didn't say anything. There's not a sound in

500
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the forest, nothing, there's no birds, no nothing. I'm shaking.

501
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 2>The fight or flight kicks in and I'm ready to go.

502
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:46.720
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, okay, let's make our way back to

503
00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 2>the car. I think I'm not going to stand around

504
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 2>here and wait see what else gets thrown or whatever.

505
00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm anxious to go. They're like, just wait, just listen.

506
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't want to listen, I want

507
00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>to go. We're standing there, and probably about two or

508
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 2>three minutes later, weich here. Possibly whatever threw this at

509
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>us move down further back behind this. It's like small

510
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 2>rolling mountains. It moves back further off of this. I'm

511
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna call it a hill because it's not a very

512
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.279
<v Speaker 2>tall mountain. It moves back behind and then it cuts

513
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:26.839
<v Speaker 2>down to our left, like it's gonna cut around behind

514
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 2>us and cut us off between us and our vehicle.

515
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm starting to get nervous because you can hear this

516
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.319
<v Speaker 2>thing moving and it's snapping popping. It's loud, snap pop,

517
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 2>snap pop, and it's cutting down back behind us, and

518
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, we need to go now because whatever this is,

519
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 2>if it's gonna cut us off in between, we're not

520
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna be able to get to our car. I am

521
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>walking as fast as I can on very uneven ground,

522
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 2>very sobby ground. I'm worried I'm gonna twist my ankle

523
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>or walking over logs, crossing little streams and stuff. I'm

524
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:01.640
<v Speaker 2>actually far and up in front of the other two

525
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that I have to stop and wait for them to

526
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 2>catch up. So I'm facing them, waiting for them to

527
00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:09.680
<v Speaker 2>catch up, and I'm like, come on, hurry up, let's go.

528
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I hear this really loud snap. I can't even tell

529
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you how maybe big this branch was or limb that

530
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 2>stabbed it. It was very loud, it was very close. I

531
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>just I froze because it literally sounded like it was

532
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 2>on top of me. So I have froze, and I'm

533
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>standing there. They stop walking. This is the part that

534
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 2>freaks me out the most is they're looking at me,

535
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>and they stop walking, and they're looking in my direction.

536
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>So I'm facing them. They're facing me. The first thought

537
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 2>in my mind is something's behind me, something's very close

538
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 2>to me, and they're looking at this thing. They're not

539
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 2>looking at me, They're looking beyond me, at this thing,

540
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:55.279
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. I'm terrified. I'm not moving. They start

541
00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>rushing me. They're running towards me. When they start moving,

542
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have to know, So I turn

543
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>around and I start heading back towards the car. I

544
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>don't see anything. I get to the car. I'm hitting

545
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the button to the car, like the alarm button, like

546
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 2>to unlock it. You can hear the beeping hitting this button.

547
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Just maybe this noise. It's gonna scare whatever this is.

548
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I was thinking, but just hitting

549
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 2>the button to the car. I think I was hitting

550
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the unlocked button actually, so that we could get in

551
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the car. I was hitting the button. I make it

552
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to the car first, I get in, I start the car.

553
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 2>They're at the car, so they had to have been

554
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>moving pretty quickly. So when we get in, they're like, go,

555
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I go. We're leaving. And then again, this is the

556
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>same camp ground area, Wes Morris. It's the same area.

557
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.119
<v Speaker 2>We get in the car and we leave. We don't

558
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>say anything to each other other than what the heck

559
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 2>was that. I didn't want to ever go back there,

560
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>at least not for a while, because that was pretty scary.

561
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 1>For more sasquatch out to see. We're going right back.

562
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>After these messages, a few months, i'd say probably two

563
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>or three months go by. I go back down to

564
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:17.359
<v Speaker 2>the area. They have this bright idea. There's trails that

565
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>go back up behind this campground, like hiking trails, and

566
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 2>there's other parts of this r area that you can

567
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 2>actually take jeeps up on the jeep trails and stuff,

568
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and they're pretty rugged. You have to have pretty good

569
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>vehicle to get back up in there. They have this

570
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:36.000
<v Speaker 2>bright idea, Hey, we're going to go for a hike

571
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:40.039
<v Speaker 2>in the evening back behind this campground. And I'm like,

572
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 2>all right, I've never done a night hike before. Let's

573
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 2>do it just before dark. It was enough light out

574
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>where we could get going and still see pretty well.

575
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 2>So I'd say probably about six seven o'clock. We'd have flashlights,

576
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.799
<v Speaker 2>obviously we're armed well. Walking up this trail, we get

577
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>probably maybe two miles back. You'd come to this part

578
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 2>in the trail where you cross this little grassy meadow,

579
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 2>and then right beyond that it is nothing but pine trees.

580
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>They call it the pine thicket. It's all pine trees.

581
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>There's no other kind of trees, it's just pine. We

582
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>get to the end of that trail and we can

583
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>see across these pine trees. I'm like, I'm not going

584
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 2>in there. It was like I hit a wall. I

585
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go any further. This is it. We're

586
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>not going any further. We all agree, okay, we're not

587
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>going to go back in there. So we're standing around

588
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 2>just talking, wait for it to get darker. By the

589
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 2>time it gets to the point where we can just

590
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>see each other shadows. We start heading back. We try

591
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>our flashlights on. So there's big rocks and tree limb

592
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>roots and stuff you can trip over, so it's a

593
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>pretty dangerous little trail. So we have our flashlights. We're

594
00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>walking through and we're just meandering through like it's a

595
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>normal hike, just talking normally, not whispering, just talking and

596
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>walking making noise. We all hear this loud dump noise happens.

597
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the that you can seal in your feet.

598
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 2>It makes us all stop. Mind you, we're not like

599
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 2>super close to each other, we're probably within we're or

600
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>four feet of each other walking. We all feel this

601
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.599
<v Speaker 2>stump and we hear this thump, and we stop and

602
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>we're listening. We don't hear anything, and then we realize

603
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 2>we don't hear anything else. There's no crickets, there's nothing.

604
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just dead quiet. We're maybe halfway back. So we

605
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:32.799
<v Speaker 2>hugged in probably about an hour and a half and

606
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 2>we're still half an hour to forty minutes of a

607
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 2>hike to get out yet, so we're like, let's pick

608
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 2>up our pace, let's keep going, because at this point

609
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 2>we're all nervous. We can't hear anything else in the

610
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:48.279
<v Speaker 2>woods but us. So we're walking and we're trying to

611
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>actually stay quiet now because we're the only ones making

612
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>any kind of noise. Then we hear this whistle, very distinctive,

613
00:32:56.440 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 2>one quick whistle, almost like someone's whistling for you to like, hey,

614
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 2>just a quick whistle. We stop. We turn off all

615
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 2>of our lights. Don't ask me why. I have no idea.

616
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a stupid idea. So let's turn

617
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 2>all your lights off. Turn your lights like, well, I'm

618
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>not turning my light off. I want to be able

619
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 2>to see if something's coming. That didn't sound like it

620
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 2>was very far away. Anyway, we turn our lights off.

621
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm literally huddled up shoulder to shoulder next to his

622
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 2>wife and I'm standing there and she starts she's shaking.

623
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she's making me shake or if

624
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm making her shake, but she's shaking. I'm like, Okay,

625
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 2>we need to keep moving. We can't just stand here.

626
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>We can't move unless we turn our lights on. So

627
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 2>after about three or four minutes, we decide, okay, we'll

628
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>turn our lights back on. Still no noise other than us,

629
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>absolutely no noise or walking. I would say, probably about

630
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>a good ten to fifteen minutes go by, we still

631
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>don't hear anything else. We'd start to settle in, Okay,

632
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 2>nothing else is happened. We're okay. We're maybe ten minutes

633
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.839
<v Speaker 2>from the car. Snap snap pop. On the left side

634
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 2>of us, down on this other ridge, snap pop snap pop.

635
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 2>So there's something on the right side of us. There's

636
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 2>something on the left side of us, and it's not

637
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 2>directly beside us, it's behind us. We hear this movement

638
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 2>on either side of us. I know North Carolina has bears.

639
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>I am absolutely terrified of bears. I do not like bears.

640
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I never, ever in my life want to encounter a

641
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>bear in the wild. So that's actually my first thought,

642
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 2>aside from the whistle. I wasn't even thinking of that.

643
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I hope it's not bears. My friends,

644
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a bear. I'm like, Okay, do

645
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I hope this is a bear? Or do I hope

646
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not a bear. We're walking and we hear these

647
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 2>noises and it's coming up, so it's not necessarily getting

648
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>closer to us this way. It's getting closer to us

649
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 2>from the side. It's coming up to the trail. Sorry,

650
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm shaking right now. We're walking a lot faster now,

651
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>or at a very brisk walk. With our flashlights. We

652
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 2>can just see the reflection at the car lights. I

653
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 2>keep telling myself, don't run. I have to keep repeating

654
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to myself, don't run. All of a sudden, whatever these

655
00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:17.880
<v Speaker 2>things are, they come up to the edge of the

656
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 2>trail and stop. We can't hear anything anymore. When it stops,

657
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>we actually stop because they're close to the car. We're like, okay,

658
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>if we have to really move to get to the car,

659
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe we can make it. So we all stop with

660
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>terror flashlights off and we're listening. We don't hear anything else.

661
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Then we hear I would say we were standing up

662
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>for maybe a minute or two. We're not hearing anything. Still,

663
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>no bug noise. We hear a whistle on one side,

664
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>then we hear a grunt on the other side, and

665
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>then nothing. Then we hear a whistle on the other side,

666
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 2>and then a grunt on the other side. So they're

667
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 2>whistling and grunting whatever this is, back and forth to

668
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 2>each other, probably three or four times. Then it just

669
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.360
<v Speaker 2>went silent. There was my friend gets the bright idea

670
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 2>to whistle back. So whistle back. Nothing, whistles again, nothing.

671
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 2>He whistles a couple times, two or three times. The

672
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>last time he whistled something. I want to say it

673
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>might have been a stick, It might have been a rock.

674
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see anything because we had no lights on.

675
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Whatever it was, it threw something across and it landed

676
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of where this trail was. We know

677
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 2>that because part of this trail it had rocks. It

678
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 2>was rocky. It sounded like it hit the middle of

679
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>this trail we were on. So it turned lights on

680
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing there. We heard it hit, we heard

681
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 2>something get tron, but we don't know where it's at.

682
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>At that point, we make it to the car. We

683
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 2>get in the car relief. So that's that experience. I

684
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.280
<v Speaker 2>never went night hiking again after that. That was the

685
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>one and only time I ever went night hiking after that.

686
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 2>There was one other incident in this same general area.

687
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 2>There is a location it's called Reservation Road. Are you

688
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 2>familiar with that? Okay, So there's a little town area

689
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 2>called El Dorado. There's actually a very popular spot that

690
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 2>all the jeeps before they go up on the trails,

691
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 2>they stop and they stole up and they get food.

692
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 2>It's called El Dorodo outposts. On the other side fram

693
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.119
<v Speaker 2>where Wes Morris and all that is. You come through

694
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 2>on that highway and you cut off on this road

695
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's called Reservation Road. You go down. There's some

696
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.119
<v Speaker 2>little camp areas down there, picnic tables and stuff. Just

697
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 2>as you turn in there's a big porta potti house

698
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 2>out there, benches places people can set up tents and stuff.

699
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 2>You bypass that and you go down this road. You

700
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>go all the way down. There's a gun range out there.

701
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 2>When you get to the end of this road, there's

702
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.159
<v Speaker 2>this big cul de sac area and it leads up

703
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 2>to some other trails. On a separate night, I pulled

704
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>into there, circled around again facing out because I'm not silly,

705
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll want to base out. I have a recorder. It's

706
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:03.840
<v Speaker 2>actually an older recorder. Friend of mine gave me their

707
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 2>card to find now. Actually, but I have a recorder.

708
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I have my headphones plugged into it and i just

709
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 2>have it hanging out the side of the window and

710
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm listening because you can hear everything pretty clear with

711
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.320
<v Speaker 2>this recorder, actually a lot louder than your natural ear.

712
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm listening recording sounds see if I hear anything, and

713
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting in the driver's side of my car. It's

714
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 2>a pretty moonlit night. You can see the shadows and stuff.

715
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 2>It's cloudy, so when the clouds come over, you can

716
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.800
<v Speaker 2>see the shadows moving on the ground. So it's a

717
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:35.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty bright night. This whole area that I'm sitting in

718
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 2>is all gravel. You can see like it almost looks

719
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 2>like white. From the gravel. I can see the different

720
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 2>textures of the tree line and the bushes in front

721
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 2>of me. So I'm parked here facing out, and the

722
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>way I'm facing the cult Desact area is to my left,

723
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm facing towards the right to go out on

724
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the road. Basically, the front of my car is at

725
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 2>an angle, and I can see a whole big section

726
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 2>of the trees in front of me and a big

727
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>section of the road that's going out. I'm sitting there.

728
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what time it is, it's late, probably

729
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 2>one two o'clock in the morning. I'm listening. I don't

730
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 2>hear anything. I'm actually starting to get bored, trying not

731
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 2>to fall asleep. I just open my eyes and I

732
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 2>look out my windshield right across from where I'm sitting.

733
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not a huge distance, but it's some distance. I'd

734
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 2>say probably ten fifteen feet is the tree line. Something

735
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what comes out of this tree line.

736
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 2>How to explain this? You know what a crab looks like?

737
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Visioning a big black crab come out of the woods

738
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>in a horseshoe shape. So it comes out of the woods.

739
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I could see I guess it's arms and legs or

740
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 2>whatever going up and down like a crab. And it

741
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 2>comes out of the trees and goes right back in.

742
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 2>It was almost like a came out saw my vehicle

743
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 2>and was like oh crap, and went right back into

744
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.199
<v Speaker 2>the trees like very quick, like one two, three, gone

745
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.320
<v Speaker 2>like not even three seconds. It was just it came

746
00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 2>out and bat right back in. I don't know what

747
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 2>it was. All I know is it was a dark figure.

748
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I could see what it looked like. Its arms and

749
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 2>legs were going like up and down, but it moved

750
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 2>like a crab. And the way it came out and

751
00:40:26.920 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 2>went back in it was almost like it it came

752
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 2>in sideways. Does that make sense. It's hard to explain

753
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the way a crab walks its sideways. Just imagine watching

754
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>a crab come out and back in sideways. Unplack. What

755
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 2>was that? Whatever? It was on all fours, but it

756
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>was too big to be a bear. And then I

757
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.280
<v Speaker 2>got to thinking, okay, but I could see long like

758
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:56.599
<v Speaker 2>almost like long whims coming out from the body of it.

759
00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>It was like this crab thing came out and right

760
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>back into the woods. I didn't see a face. It

761
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 2>was just a figure, but I could see, I am

762
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 2>assuming what was its arms and legs just moving up

763
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and down in that crab motion, and right back into

764
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 2>the woods. No idea what it was. I didn't hear

765
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 2>a thing on my recorder. I could hear everything else.

766
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 2>There was sounds of the forest. I didn't hear trees stopping.

767
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear bushes moving. I didn't hear gravel because

768
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting on gravel and it came out far

769
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.920
<v Speaker 2>enough that it was on the gravels. I would have thought, okay,

770
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.199
<v Speaker 2>I would have heard the gravel noise. I didn't hear

771
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 2>gravel noise. I don't know what it was. I don't

772
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.239
<v Speaker 2>know what I saw, but it was weird. I just

773
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>put it in that little box that of Okay, that

774
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 2>was weird. I don't know what it was. I can't

775
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 2>explain it, but I saw it, and who knows what

776
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 2>it was. That was the only time I ever sat

777
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.079
<v Speaker 2>on that road and the only time I ever saw anything.

778
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 2>It's just weird, strange.

779
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:56.519
<v Speaker 1>As you're telling the story, I don't know how accurate

780
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 1>this may or may not be, but I'm envisioning there's

781
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>an illustration, I guess, of somebody's eyewitness account of what

782
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they said they saw a sasquatch doing. It's they call

783
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 1>it the spider crawl, and I've heard of that. It's

784
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 1>down on all fours, the arms and the legs are

785
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in this weird position. But that's what I'm envisioning in

786
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 1>my brain as you're telling this story. I'm sure anybody

787
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>who's listening to this now that's familiar with this illustration,

788
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'll try to find it before we post this

789
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>for you guys to check out over on the blog

790
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>for this episode. Hopefully I'll be able to find this image.

791
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's pretty common. I've seen it multiple times,

792
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but that's what I'm envisioning. Let me ask you this.

793
00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of questions I want to go back

794
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:38.760
<v Speaker 1>to in some of the other stuff that we talked about.

795
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But is that the impression that you got, given that

796
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you've heard of these things crawling and doing spider crawl

797
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>on all fours? Obviously it's subjective. You didn't see, you

798
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>can't say definitively what it was. But do you get

799
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the impression looking back in hindsight? Now, do you think

800
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it was possibly a sasquatch on all fours or you

801
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>think it might have been something else? I, honestly, I

802
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.159
<v Speaker 1>can't say I personally would say it was likely a

803
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch in that movement in that position because I've never

804
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>seen anything ever like that before, and I don't know

805
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>what else to classify it as, honestly, but knowing like

806
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you said, knowing that it's been reported that they do that.

807
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:23.039
<v Speaker 2>But see, this thing wasn't huge, It wasn't big, but

808
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 2>it was big enough that it was bigger than me.

809
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know any person that could get done on

810
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>all fours and move like that, not in one fluid

811
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>motion like that. Personal way.

812
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>The other thing, I want to go back to, working

813
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.159
<v Speaker 1>my way chronologically backwards. Here the rock that you held up,

814
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'll certainly I'll do a steal or something of that.

815
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>So you guys can see it over on the blog

816
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>for the episode. Impression at the time when you guys

817
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 1>were in the moment and that thing came flying in

818
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 1>that this thing was out to do you harm or

819
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think it was just warning you off? What

820
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about the rock throwing thing in the

821
00:43:58.280 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>moment and in hindsight looking back.

822
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>In the moment, I would say, to be honest, I

823
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 2>feel like it was trying to deter us, like maybe

824
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>we were in its path. I was scared, I was shaking,

825
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 2>I was ready to go. But again thinking about it,

826
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and in hindsight, I don't feel like it was trying

827
00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to hit us. It was trying to harm us. Really,

828
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 2>it was trying to say, hey, I'm here, get out

829
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:27.039
<v Speaker 2>of here. Because I feel that if it wanted it

830
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 2>to hit us, it very well could have the projection

831
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.719
<v Speaker 2>of how far this rock was because we didn't see

832
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.679
<v Speaker 2>what it came from. It came from a very good

833
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.159
<v Speaker 2>distance away, mind you, it was on a taller hill

834
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 2>from us. Obviously the trajectory from that might have helped

835
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>some as far as the distance of where it was

836
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 2>coming from. But the fact that I myself, when we

837
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 2>were there, I was throwing that rock. My friend was

838
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 2>throwing that rock, and neither of us could make it

839
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 2>very far. There's no way a person from that distance

840
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 2>not being able to see who threw it at us.

841
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 2>From that distance, there's no way we wouldn't have known

842
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:09.599
<v Speaker 2>who it was.

843
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we'll

844
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:15.199
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

845
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 2>But we didn't see anybody. We just heard and saw

846
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:25.320
<v Speaker 2>the rock where it landed, and that was a pretty

847
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>far throw. Whatever that had had the strength to throw

848
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it that far, we'll just put it that way. But

849
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like it was trying to purposely hurt us.

850
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I think we were in its way fair enough.

851
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I want to go back to is

852
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the first experience you talked about. You were around four

853
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>years old, your uncle and your dad leaving their fishing

854
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 1>poles behind and coming up and getting on the tractor

855
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 1>and getting you guys out of there. I'm curious did

856
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 1>your dad ever revisit that, Did he ever talk to

857
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 1>you about or have you had the conversation with him

858
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.599
<v Speaker 1>about what he and you guys saw that night? Did

859
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 1>he think it was a sasquatch. Did he have that

860
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 1>in his nomenclature? Was that something that he had dealt

861
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.039
<v Speaker 1>with As far as you're aware of in the past,

862
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 1>or have any knowledge of that.

863
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Incident in particular, we never spoke of. He never mentioned it,

864
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>did that I know of. He and my uncle didn't

865
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about it either. It was just something he never

866
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 2>brought up. And like I said, my dad, he was

867
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 2>brought up down in the rugged him and several other siblings.

868
00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>They grew up very poor, very hard off. My uncle

869
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>that we went fishing with, he could actually take a

870
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 2>stone throw it. That's how he hunted rabbits. He would

871
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 2>actually throw a stone, and I went with him one

872
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:49.199
<v Speaker 2>time he would throw a stone and he'd hit a

873
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 2>rabbit in the head and knock it out. And that's

874
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>how they went rabbit hunting. So knowing my dad was

875
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.079
<v Speaker 2>very difficult to scare. He wasn't afraid of anything. There

876
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 2>was times he go out of the house in middle

877
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 2>of the night thinking in hindsight about different stuff that

878
00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>happened around that particular house that we lived in where

879
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:11.079
<v Speaker 2>we went fishing. Behind A lot of strange stuff happened

880
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:14.320
<v Speaker 2>out there. He would go outside, fire off a shotgun,

881
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't afraid of anything. He'd walk around the house that

882
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff. I just thought he was very brave.

883
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>He never brought up that incident at all.

884
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't surprise me at all. That's a common theme

885
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that I hear over and over. It's so interesting. This

886
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite things about the job. Before

887
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I clicked record, you and I were talking about I've

888
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 1>been doing interviews all day. One of those interviews was

889
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.679
<v Speaker 1>a guy that is actually over in the United Kingdom.

890
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>He's a big fan of the show. He's been listening

891
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.079
<v Speaker 1>since the beginning. He's very much into data. He's a

892
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:47.119
<v Speaker 1>data guy. He went onto the BFRO website. Obviously his

893
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 1>interview will be out for everybody to listen to. I'm

894
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.079
<v Speaker 1>sure Wayne and I will talk about this on that

895
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot podcast at some time, because he emailed us a

896
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago and started sending us over some

897
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:01.519
<v Speaker 1>of the statistical breakdown. He went through almost all of

898
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the data that's available on the BFRO website, which is

899
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I think he said something like five thousand plus and

900
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>he didn't obviously read every single report, but he took

901
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 1>all of this data and put it together. One of

902
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the things that I kept making note of as you

903
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 1>were talking is, he said, statistically, you would think most

904
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of us think, at least when I first got into this,

905
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and up until recently when I started doing my own research,

906
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I would always just assume that you would see and

907
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:32.119
<v Speaker 1>have more bigfoot experiences and or class A encounters in

908
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the summertime. There's more people out, it's nice weather, everything's

909
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 1>out during the summer. But actually, no, it's the month

910
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>of October. Which is interesting because a couple of your

911
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:47.280
<v Speaker 1>experiences happened in the month of October. You said there

912
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 1>was a couple of time lapses that went on between

913
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 1>leaving and coming back. I don't know if you really

914
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 1>looked into dialing into how many of your experiences have

915
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 1>happened on or near the month of October, but I

916
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.719
<v Speaker 1>found it statistically interesting that I just had this conversation

917
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>with him today. He made the comment, he joked, we're

918
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 1>right in the middle of October. If you're going to

919
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 1>have an experience with bigfoot, go out into the woods now,

920
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 1>because it might happen. That's just one of those little

921
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 1>things that I love about this is because I'm having

922
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>this conversation with him earlier today, and then you're talking

923
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>about things that happened two thousand and one, two thousand

924
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and two, and just as recently as a few years ago.

925
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>The little nuance is rain. You mentioned. Rain was another

926
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that he talked about. Statistically, the sightings tend to

927
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 1>go down in the rainy times because very few people

928
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.599
<v Speaker 1>like to be out in the rain. Nobody wants to

929
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 1>go camping in the rain, Nobody wants to hike in

930
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the rain. So the fact that you were out there

931
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 1>and you were the only person there and had that experience,

932
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I find it very interesting because it could have very

933
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 1>easily been somebody else and they might have had the

934
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>exact same experience that most people want, because they don't

935
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 1>put themselves in a campground in the middle of the week.

936
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Most people go on Saturdays. Statistically, Saturday is the best

937
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.000
<v Speaker 1>day for US saturd squat siding because that's when most

938
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 1>of them are reported, because it's a human thing, because

939
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 1>we're out hiking, hunting, and doing all the things that

940
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we do typically on Saturdays. Because if you're a normal person,

941
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 1>most people have a nine to five Monday through Friday

942
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of situation. As far as work. It's just all

943
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>these little nuances. I find it interesting. I'm kicking myself

944
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 1>because I'm in North Carolina. It's been on my bucket

945
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>list forever to go to the Yuari and you're in

946
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 1>North Dakota. You know more about the Yarri area than

947
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I do because you've been there a ton of times.

948
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I have it gone out to that area specifically because

949
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's oversaturated with so many accounts that have

950
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>come out of there recently. It's my own fault. I've

951
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>had several people on multiple times that have had experiences

952
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>in the Yuari, and I think podcast and shows that

953
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 1>have done I don't know if Finding Bigfoot's been out there.

954
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 1>I think they did an episode out in the Yuari

955
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 1>or in that area. I think we've done ourselves a

956
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a disservice because I do think there's

957
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.599
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there now it's hard to

958
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:01.039
<v Speaker 1>discern what's real and what's not. But I certainly want

959
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 1>to get out to that area because there's so many

960
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>amazing stories that come out of there, and people are

961
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.559
<v Speaker 1>still having experiences that they can't explain that aren't related

962
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to people. I think it's interesting that you've been out

963
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:16.639
<v Speaker 1>there several times and had different experiences at different times

964
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:17.119
<v Speaker 1>of the year.

965
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I would say I've been out to the ri area.

966
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.599
<v Speaker 2>And to keep in mind, the URIs aren't just in

967
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>one spot. It's spread out, so you'll have a group

968
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.480
<v Speaker 2>of YI forests here and then over here you'll have

969
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 2>another group, and over here you have So there's different

970
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 2>areas of the ras you can go because it's a

971
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:41.039
<v Speaker 2>pretty good sized area. Now I've been there probably about

972
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>ten or twelve times in the past couple of years.

973
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.039
<v Speaker 2>There's another area and I don't know if it's I

974
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:49.960
<v Speaker 2>want to say it is connected to the urs, but

975
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>there's another small area, a group of trees that I've

976
00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.559
<v Speaker 2>hiped back into. And like I said, I have so

977
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 2>many different experiences. I can't distinguish if it's Sasquatch, if

978
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.159
<v Speaker 2>it's something else. I've caught things on camera. I caught

979
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.800
<v Speaker 2>something on my night vision sitting in number ten at

980
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:12.760
<v Speaker 2>wes Morris in the rain. There's so many different things,

981
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 2>and I don't experience something every time I go out.

982
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I experience something maybe one out of five times. So

983
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I can go there many times during one visit. But

984
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I've only been to North Carolina. Probably I want to

985
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.400
<v Speaker 2>say twelve to fifteen times. I don't want to sell

986
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it short because it's been quite a few times. But

987
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 2>as far as being out in the woods, probably twenty

988
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 2>five thirty times. So I've had these different experiences, but

989
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 2>not every time. Somebody thinks if you're going to go

990
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.800
<v Speaker 2>out into the woods and you have an experience, it's

991
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 2>going to happen more often than not. That's not true.

992
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.519
<v Speaker 2>You are less likely to have an experience than you

993
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:54.880
<v Speaker 2>are to have an experience. The fact that I've had

994
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 2>all of these different things happen most of the time

995
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I've been by myself. There's been a few times I've

996
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 2>been with a couple of other people. It doesn't matter

997
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 2>if you're by yourself or if you're with a few people,

998
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 2>if you're in the rain, or if you're not. So

999
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>when you say most of all these things happen in October,

1000
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:16.239
<v Speaker 2>you're right. From the most of the times that I've

1001
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 2>been out there and had something unexplainable I want to say,

1002
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 2>or seen something. It has been from probably September October

1003
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>all the way to January February. So all the things

1004
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I've had happen is from the fall through the winter

1005
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.599
<v Speaker 2>in that area. I don't know why or what that is,

1006
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 2>but I will say the one area that I'm talking

1007
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 2>about West Morris and those trails, the jeep trails. Those

1008
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 2>jeep trails have a season in the summertime. There's a

1009
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:50.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of people that are being very loud and very

1010
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 2>noisy with those jeeps. There's a bunch. I've been out

1011
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:55.960
<v Speaker 2>there in the summertime and you can't drive down that

1012
00:53:56.079 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 2>road without passing twenty jeeps within ten minutes because they're

1013
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 2>all following each other. They're all going up into the trails,

1014
00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 2>even at night. I feel that these creatures in that

1015
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 2>area they know when open season is, so when all

1016
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:16.039
<v Speaker 2>those jeeps and those trails close and jeeps aren't allowed

1017
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 2>to come into those trails, they come back and they

1018
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 2>get closer to that camp area than they normally would.

1019
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 2>When there's a lot of people I've heard, because there's

1020
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.880
<v Speaker 2>people that would actually talk about it that I ran into,

1021
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:36.599
<v Speaker 2>there'll be a report almost white clockwork, there'll be one, two,

1022
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 2>three reports right at the beginning of open season for

1023
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 2>those trails. Somebody will have a siding or they'll have

1024
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>an experience, and then there'll be nothing for the rest

1025
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>of that season because there's too many people, there's too

1026
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.360
<v Speaker 2>much noise. That's my opinion.

1027
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 1>You definitely may be right on making a note to myself,

1028
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.519
<v Speaker 1>I need to take my trip to the Ure's probably

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere around October November. I think that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a date for myself. Maybe it won't happen this year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in twenty twenty five. Tasha, I really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>coming on and sharing your experiences. I have had a

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<v Speaker 1>blast talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, thank you so much for having me and for

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<v Speaker 2>letting me share. It's been great. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I have ever been on a podcast before, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very thankful.

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<v Speaker 3>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't want to be a world out it.

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<v Speaker 3>Chop this job, chid everything, come fucking bags for joy,

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<v Speaker 3>for me, joy staying right. You come in right away,

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<v Speaker 3>step still steps step step stops.

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<v Speaker 4>Pass

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<v Speaker 3>Understand pass state assist USS