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Speaker 1: got to sit down and talk to Tasha from North Dakota,
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Speaker 1: is Tasha from North Dakota. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. Let's talk about this big
Speaker 1: fit think what got you interested in the subject to
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Speaker 2: I grew up in East Texas, born and raised. My
Speaker 2: dad was actually originally from Arkansas. I grew up hearing
Speaker 2: all kinds of stories from him. He had quite a
Speaker 2: few things that had happened to him growing up and everything.
Speaker 2: So as a young kid, I never really took part
Speaker 2: in it. I just thought, oh, there's spooky stories. The
Speaker 2: very first thing I remember ever happening that was very strange.
Speaker 2: I was probably about four years old. My dad used
Speaker 2: to take me and my brother and my uncle liked
Speaker 2: to go along. We like to go fishing. He'd put
Speaker 2: us on the back of this little tractor that he restored.
Speaker 2: We'd read on the wheel wells. We'd go across this
Speaker 2: little land bridge between this pond on the back part
Speaker 2: of our property. We rented a property from dairy farmer
Speaker 2: my dad worked for. We'd go down. There's a place
Speaker 2: called Black Creek Lake. A part of that lake actually
Speaker 2: fed into the back part of this property. So we'd
Speaker 2: all get on this trapper and we'd go down. We'd
Speaker 2: go fishing, Me and my brother. We'd hop off when
Speaker 2: we'd get there and tell us go play. We make
Speaker 2: mud pies or whatever. Play with frogs. That's all we
Speaker 2: did as kids. He and my uncle would go down
Speaker 2: the bank and they'd go fishing. I don't know how
Speaker 2: long we were there for, not very long, and we
Speaker 2: started hearing this noise. You know what a bullfrog sound makes,
Speaker 2: like a wool noise, and that's the noise we heard,
Speaker 2: but it was a lot louder, a lot deeper, and
Speaker 2: a lot longer. My brother and I went over to
Speaker 2: my dad. I was like, what are that noise? And
Speaker 2: he was, I don't know, it'd be quiet. Let's listen.
Speaker 2: So we were listening, and it was getting louder and
Speaker 2: closer and louder and closer. In this area that we
Speaker 2: were at, the other side of this bank wasn't very far.
Speaker 2: I'd say maybe probably about thirty feet forty feet from
Speaker 2: one side of the bank to the other because it
Speaker 2: fed into the bigger part of the lake. So anyway,
Speaker 2: we were sitting there listening and we could hear snapping
Speaker 2: and popping and branches and stuff being broke, and we
Speaker 2: could hear that noise. It was getting so loud. My
Speaker 2: dad he's y'all go get back while the tracker new stature.
Speaker 2: My dad was one of those guys that he was
Speaker 2: very roping tumble. You listened when he told you to
Speaker 2: do something. So we ran up on the track room
Speaker 2: and we sat there. The embankment kind of comes down,
Speaker 2: so the tracker was sitting up on the higher part
Speaker 2: and my dad Muk were down by the water. They
Speaker 2: were looking. We could hear him talking, and they were
Speaker 2: looking across and everything, and we saw this big, dark,
Speaker 2: brownish black thing kind of start coming out towards the water.
Speaker 2: It spooked my dad. Just so you know, my dad's
Speaker 2: not one of those kind of people that get scared
Speaker 2: very easily. He's a very rugged person. It spooked on
Speaker 2: bad enough. They left their rods actually, and they came
Speaker 2: up to the tractor.
Speaker 1: We left.
Speaker 2: So that was about when I was probably four years old.
Speaker 2: Now I don't remember ever going back down there after that.
Speaker 2: That's my only memory of that and when that happened.
Speaker 2: So I would say that was probably the first time
Speaker 2: anything ever like that when it comes to a sasquatch
Speaker 2: or anything happening to me. The next time that I remember,
Speaker 2: I was about fifteen years old. This would have been
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and one. It was in the fall.
Speaker 2: It was cold, so I'd say it was probably October November.
Speaker 2: It was a weekend and I was staying the night
Speaker 2: at a friend's house. Her older brother, his name was Joey,
Speaker 2: who was home from the Navy on leave. I liked
Speaker 2: her brother, so I was like, I'll want to stay
Speaker 2: a night at your house. So I went over and
Speaker 2: Stead and I at her house. It was probably about midnight,
Speaker 2: one o'clock and Joey comes out and he's, hey, my
Speaker 2: Peter and everything's over at my grandparents' house. Why don't
Speaker 2: we walk over there and I'll burn you guys some
Speaker 2: CDs back of the day, that's what they did, burn
Speaker 2: CDs for music. And I was like, oh, yeah, that
Speaker 2: sounds cool. So now, this property sat between the outskirts
Speaker 2: of Bridgeport and Chico, Texas, in between these two towns,
Speaker 2: or these big rock quarries. They're full with water if
Speaker 2: you're familiar with what rock quarries are. Their house was
Speaker 2: situated in the country part like in between that. Their
Speaker 2: house was probably about half a mile from their grandparents' house,
Speaker 2: and they were all on the same piece of land.
Speaker 2: East Texas is actually very wooded, so they had this
Speaker 2: path that went from their house to the grandparents' house
Speaker 2: through the woods. It was just like this mashed down footpath.
Speaker 2: It wasn't super visible, but it was there. So Joey suggested, hey,
Speaker 2: why don't we cut through here so we don't have
Speaker 2: to go all the way around on the dirt road.
Speaker 2: Like okay, we didn't have flashlights. It was actually a
Speaker 2: pretty bright moving out. We could see everything. We could
Speaker 2: see each other pretty well. We could see the outline
Speaker 2: of the trees and everything. So we leave there. It's
Speaker 2: probably like I said, about midnight, one o'clock. We leave
Speaker 2: there and we start out on this trail. It goes
Speaker 2: out from the back of their house and it leads
Speaker 2: up to the back door of their grandparents' trailer house.
Speaker 2: So we start out and we're walking. We're just talking rollow,
Speaker 2: whispern and everything. I said. Joey was older and he
Speaker 2: was a smoker at the time, so he WoT up
Speaker 2: a cigarette and I was like, I don't think that's
Speaker 2: a good idea. He's like, oh, it's not that big
Speaker 2: of a deal. He was leading us. Amber was in
Speaker 2: the middle and I was close up to her at
Speaker 2: the back. I'm walking. I'm whispering to Amber. I don't
Speaker 2: know what we were talking about. I can't remember. It's
Speaker 2: probably something about music. Over to my left side, I
Speaker 2: could hear something behind to my left. At first, it
Speaker 2: was like a light crunching sound, and I stopped him.
Speaker 2: I said, hey, guys, listen, do you hear that. They
Speaker 2: were like, no, I don't hear anything like something's moving
Speaker 2: over hearing's okay, let's just keep moving. So I was like,
Speaker 2: all right, didn't think too much of it, so we
Speaker 2: kept walking. Probably about ten seconds later, could hear it again,
Speaker 2: and it was a lot closer. So I stopped them
Speaker 2: and I'm like, guys, you don't hear that. Listen. So
Speaker 2: we stood there for about thirty seconds, maybe a minute listen.
Speaker 2: Then I didn't hear anything. I'm like, there's something moving
Speaker 2: over here. Joey's we have tattle back over on that
Speaker 2: side of the property where my dad's at. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: how far away is that? He knows that's way over there,
Speaker 2: right behind fences, and he said, yeah, they are. Maybe
Speaker 2: one of them got out. I said, okay, let's hurry
Speaker 2: up and get there. So maybe we should cut through
Speaker 2: and head over towards the road. He was like, all right,
Speaker 2: let's do that. Because we could see better, there was
Speaker 2: more vision. We started to cut off this trail and
Speaker 2: make our own trail onto the gravel road. So as
Speaker 2: soon as we get onto the gravel road, we all
Speaker 2: hear whatever this is was right there. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it was right there. We all stopped. We could all
Speaker 2: hear it. It was so close. I feel like if
Speaker 2: it would have reached out, it could have touched us.
Speaker 2: We could hear it breathing. It was a very deep, raspy,
Speaker 2: almost like somebody had a hard time catching their breath,
Speaker 2: but it was very deep and uneven. We were just froze.
Speaker 2: We didn't say anything. After we all realized we could
Speaker 2: hear this. Whatever this was, it growled at us, and
Speaker 2: it growled so long, loud, and deep that we didn't
Speaker 2: even stand around long enough to let it finish growling.
Speaker 2: We took off as fast as we could. We ran
Speaker 2: to the back porch of his grandparents place. We went
Speaker 2: inside and we were just in shock. What just happened?
Speaker 2: What was that? I was like, okay, we were going
Speaker 2: through everything that it could have been in this area. Growls.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a wild hog. A wild hog doesn't growl,
Speaker 2: so we can scratch that. Maybe a kyote that a
Speaker 2: kyote doesn't breathe like that. We don't have wolves. We're
Speaker 2: going through everything we could think of. What you know,
Speaker 2: we did have cougars? Are like, what about a cougar?
Speaker 2: That was too deep and too heavy. It did not
Speaker 2: sound like a cougar. Obviously, a cougar is probably not
Speaker 2: going to let you know it's there until it's on
Speaker 2: you or trying to kill you. So we scratched that
Speaker 2: we don't know what it was. We get into the
Speaker 2: room where the computer is and Joey directly there's been
Speaker 2: some weird stuff that's happened around here over the years.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, like what. And so my uncle,
Speaker 2: he works for the Rock Quarries ever in Chico, and
Speaker 2: he said, one morning, about two o'clock, three o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning, he was on his way home. He saw
Speaker 2: something cross the road. He doesn't know what it was,
Speaker 2: he said, he doesn't know what it was. He said
Speaker 2: it was some sort of weird thing. How far away
Speaker 2: was at and he said it was about three miles
Speaker 2: from here. I was like, oh, really, so that was creepy.
Speaker 2: But that was when I really started to think, Okay,
Speaker 2: what could this have been. It bothered me for a
Speaker 2: very long time. Then I put it in the back
Speaker 2: of my head. I didn't really think of it too much,
Speaker 2: and I started getting onto Facebook and I was looking
Speaker 2: into bigfoot groups and stuff like that. I met some
Speaker 2: friends over in North Carolina that had some things happen
Speaker 2: and seeing some things and whatnot, So I brought it
Speaker 2: up to them. Basically was told that very well could
Speaker 2: have been a sasquatch creature, so that would be interesting.
Speaker 2: I said, I never saw anything, but whatever it was,
Speaker 2: I can't explain the sounds. I can't explain what happened.
Speaker 2: The fact that when we stopped, whatever it was stopped
Speaker 2: didn't make a sound when we would stop, but as
Speaker 2: soon as we would start walking, could hear it walking.
Speaker 2: So it was very strange. That is the main one
Speaker 2: that really got me thinking about this whole subject and
Speaker 2: really got me involved more into this whole realm of
Speaker 2: these creatures. After that encounter or experience, I had many
Speaker 2: paranormal things happen now, going back to when I was
Speaker 2: four years old in that house. Later on, my mom
Speaker 2: would actually tell me after I was older. She said,
Speaker 2: when we lived in that house, there were a lot
Speaker 2: of times me, your dad, and your grandma would sit
Speaker 2: out in the porch and we would hear things, just
Speaker 2: strange noises, strange hoots and howls, stuff crashing through the woods.
Speaker 2: She said, it sounded like a bulldozer comes through the woods. Sometimes.
Speaker 2: I was like, really, I said, you never told me
Speaker 2: this stuff before. She's like, I didn't want to scare
Speaker 2: you because we played in those woods all the time
Speaker 2: we were outside. We played in the woods, so you'd
Speaker 2: always go down to the creek stuff like that. She
Speaker 2: said they'd also sit out there and they'd watch these lights,
Speaker 2: she called them dancing lights. They'd sit out there on
Speaker 2: the porch and they'd look up into the trees and
Speaker 2: I'd see these lights just danced around in the trees
Speaker 2: or just above the trees. She thought that was the
Speaker 2: weirdest thing. Never really brought it up to me before,
Speaker 2: and I mentioned it to her a few years ago.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, you remember those dancing lights, I said,
Speaker 2: I've heard from some people on your show and other
Speaker 2: shows that kind of correlates with some of these happenings
Speaker 2: that go on. I said, very strange for Amound. So
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and two, I started going down
Speaker 2: to North Carolina. I was invited to go on an
Speaker 2: expedition or hike, however you want to call it, on
Speaker 2: a friend's property. They used to hunt. This friend had
Speaker 2: reports of all kinds of stuff going on, things coming up,
Speaker 2: slapping in his house. It got to the point where
Speaker 2: he and his brother wouldn't go hunting in these woods
Speaker 2: alone anymore. I was invited to come out with a
Speaker 2: group of us and go hiking. I get there. I'm
Speaker 2: the kind of person that I don't go out into
Speaker 2: the woods without being armed. So we were all armed.
Speaker 2: We go out into the woods, we're hiking back. We
Speaker 2: get back probably about three or four miles into the woods.
Speaker 2: I've never been here my whole life. I'm completely reliant
Speaker 2: on this gentleman to know where he's at and how
Speaker 2: to get back. I started getting a little bit nervous
Speaker 2: because not nowhere where I am, not knowing the area.
Speaker 2: I just told him, well, you know what, why don't
Speaker 2: we just stop here, collect our a little bit, Because
Speaker 2: I like to stop, look around, check where I'm at,
Speaker 2: look behind me, every ten to twenty paces. It's just
Speaker 2: what I do.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we're right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 2: So I stop. I'm just getting a breather, getting a
Speaker 2: drink of water, and I just had this feeling turn around,
Speaker 2: check where you are. And when I turn around, I
Speaker 2: see this big black mass of something. This is October.
Speaker 2: Leaves have fallen off. You can see pretty well through
Speaker 2: the trees. There's still greener ear or anything. Really. So
Speaker 2: I'm looking and I see this big black mass and
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, come here, do you see that? And
Speaker 2: I'm pointing it out and they're like, yeah, I see that.
Speaker 2: I'm looking around everywhere else. I'm doing a scan of
Speaker 2: the whole area. There's nothing else in this area that
Speaker 2: looks like what I'm looking at. So I get my
Speaker 2: phone out and i'm videoing, and i'm topping just in case.
Speaker 2: As in videoing. Mind you you know what the woods
Speaker 2: are like. You can't see straight to this thing. There's
Speaker 2: things that are in the way. So I see this thing,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, shift its weight from one side to
Speaker 2: the other, just enough of a movement to where I
Speaker 2: saw it move. So it took my breath away. I
Speaker 2: didn't expect it to move. I catched my breath and
Speaker 2: I'm like, it just moved. Holy crap, it just moved.
Speaker 2: Then I start to get nervous. I put my phone
Speaker 2: away and I didn't look at it right away. I
Speaker 2: didn't know if I caught anything on camera or not.
Speaker 2: We continue hiking a little bit. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: It's in my mind. I'm nervous I'm ready to go,
Speaker 2: So I tell everybody, look, I'm ready to get out
Speaker 2: of here. Let's go back the way we went back.
Speaker 2: I knew we were going to have to cut back
Speaker 2: around where it was that we saw this thing because
Speaker 2: it was following from my perspective where we were. So
Speaker 2: the direction we came in is the direction we'll leave.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to go buy this area of
Speaker 2: this thing was standing. I'm really nervous because I don't
Speaker 2: know if this thing's still there. We cut back and
Speaker 2: we'd come around this great big tree where I feel
Speaker 2: like this is the area it was standing where it
Speaker 2: was the landowner, his oldest son, my other friend, and I,
Speaker 2: so there was four of us. We all at the
Speaker 2: same time walk into this smell. It was like a blanket.
Speaker 2: One second you smell it, one second you don't. So
Speaker 2: we're walking and all of a sudden, it hits this
Speaker 2: like a wall, this absolute pungent smell of death. It
Speaker 2: smells like rotting flesh. It's really hard to describe. It
Speaker 2: was putrid, very strong. It smelled like death. It just
Speaker 2: smelled like something was dead and rotting. And it was
Speaker 2: an old smell, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 2: like an aged, musty death smell. As quick as we
Speaker 2: walked in to it, and we're standing there in the
Speaker 2: same spot, it's gone. We haven't moved, but this smell
Speaker 2: is gone. It's almost like we walked into the smell
Speaker 2: and then it left us. So without us moving, this
Speaker 2: smell just disappeared. We walked all around the area within
Speaker 2: ten fifteen feet of the same area and couldn't snaw
Speaker 2: anything up. When down, when we couldn't snaw anything anymore,
Speaker 2: it was just gone. Very strange. We took note of
Speaker 2: that and just said, Okay, that was really weird. Let's
Speaker 2: just go. So then we left. That was that experience
Speaker 2: in that day. Later on, I go through my phone.
Speaker 2: I'm watching this video and I'm going back and forth
Speaker 2: clip to clip. I can just barely, and it's very
Speaker 2: hard to see, but just barely you can see if
Speaker 2: this black mass shift its weight just ever so slightly,
Speaker 2: maybe not even two three inches. You can just see
Speaker 2: it just enough to move. You can't see detail or anything.
Speaker 2: It is just a black thing that moves, and it's tall.
Speaker 2: You can make out what looks like maybe a head
Speaker 2: and a shoulder, and then it just shifts to one side,
Speaker 2: but other than that, not a lot, a blob spot
Speaker 2: if you will, just a dark thing. Then let's see
Speaker 2: here wet hiking several times in the general area. So
Speaker 2: are you familiar with the Yi Mountains in North Carolina?
Speaker 2: By chance?
Speaker 1: Definitely?
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, the famous stump in the West Morris campground
Speaker 2: where they have the candy bar and this thing crawls
Speaker 2: up and grabs the candy bar off the stump. You're
Speaker 2: where that story. I went to this place. It's not
Speaker 2: a West Morris campground. It's in the Uri Mountains in
Speaker 2: North Carolina. It's very out there in the woods. There's
Speaker 2: not a lot around it. There's a spot, it's a
Speaker 2: parking spot, number ten. That's the famous number ten spot
Speaker 2: where all that happened. I pull in. This is my
Speaker 2: first time ever there and by myself. Actually had my
Speaker 2: little dog Dixie with me. She's a little cordy. She
Speaker 2: likes to travel with me. I pull in. I have
Speaker 2: every intention on staying the night. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: grew up in East Texas. I'm not really afraid of
Speaker 2: the woods or to be by myself. This would be
Speaker 2: nice somewhere new. I knew about this area from a
Speaker 2: friend of mine it lived several miles away, but knew
Speaker 2: the area. Had gone hiking in this area several times.
Speaker 2: I pull in number ten. I parked facing out. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be messing around. Back in and
Speaker 2: I set everything up. I car camping. I don't set
Speaker 2: up a tent or anything. I'm just conquered down. It's
Speaker 2: actually been raining, so you can hear the rain drops
Speaker 2: and stuff on the car. Nobody's in there. It's on
Speaker 2: a weekday. Funny thing is there's not really a lot
Speaker 2: of people in that area that like to go out
Speaker 2: when it's raining. So I was by myself, nobody around.
Speaker 2: I get out, I get Dixie out. We go for
Speaker 2: a walk around the campground, just to get myself familiar
Speaker 2: with what's around, who's around, if anybody's there, Just to
Speaker 2: familiarize myself with the area. Get her a good walk,
Speaker 2: and come back. Get her in the car. Just lay down.
Speaker 2: It's getting dark at that time, by seven eight o'clock
Speaker 2: at night. I'm just watching a movie on my phone.
Speaker 2: I have the two front windows cracked maybe about an inch,
Speaker 2: just enough to get a little bit of airflow and
Speaker 2: so I can hear. I have my handgun beside me.
Speaker 2: There's cup holders in the back of my car, and
Speaker 2: actually fit a full sized blow up mattress in the back.
Speaker 2: It was perfect. So I have my little handgun sitting
Speaker 2: in a cup holder. I slept with my shotgun inside
Speaker 2: of me. I'm more afraid of people. I'll just put
Speaker 2: it that way if I have my shotgun inside of me.
Speaker 2: My dog Dixie had her little bed in the front
Speaker 2: passenger fullboard. That's just where she wanted to stay. It's
Speaker 2: her where her little bed fit. So she was down there.
Speaker 2: I could hear something almost like a gravel approach, because
Speaker 2: where we park it's gravelly. I could hear what sounded
Speaker 2: like gravel. So I stopped my movie. I'm listening. I
Speaker 2: don't hear anything. I start my movie. I have the
Speaker 2: vall way way down, and again I hear this proch
Speaker 2: so I'm like, okay, So I put my phone down.
Speaker 2: It's completely pitch dark, can't see anything, can't see your
Speaker 2: hand in front of your face. I make sure I
Speaker 2: can feel my gun, decided me just in case. And
Speaker 2: I'm listening and I hear this. It almost sounded like
Speaker 2: a wolf howl, but not It was more guttural so
Speaker 2: when you hear a wolf howl, you've got that distinctive sound. Okay,
Speaker 2: it didn't sound like that. It sounded more like a yell.
Speaker 2: It was enough to get my attention and my dog's attention.
Speaker 2: She jumped in the back and she was right up
Speaker 2: on my chest and she was shaking. She didn't growl,
Speaker 2: she didn't bark, she didn't anything. She didn't even whimper.
Speaker 2: Whatever this thing was that we went out this noise.
Speaker 2: I could hear what sound like it was walking around
Speaker 2: my car. Not close, but I could hear it moving
Speaker 2: around my car. So I'm like, okay, if this is
Speaker 2: a person, because I'm not familiar with this area, If
Speaker 2: this is a person, I'm not going to say anything
Speaker 2: until they get close enough to the car. I didn't
Speaker 2: think it was a person just because there was no flashlights.
Speaker 2: There was no cars. This camp ground is somewhat close
Speaker 2: to a highway, so when cars go by, you can
Speaker 2: hear cars, especially at night, because it reverberates off of
Speaker 2: the forest, you can hear it. I didn't hear any cars,
Speaker 2: so if this was a person, they would have been
Speaker 2: walking in the dark. There was absolutely no sight of
Speaker 2: any flashlights, anything to tell me that it might have
Speaker 2: been a person. I'll just put it that way. They
Speaker 2: would have had to walk in the dark, unable to
Speaker 2: see your hand in from your face. You're going to
Speaker 2: kill yourself in the woods. I started getting nervous. I
Speaker 2: started to slide down into my driver's side to turn
Speaker 2: the car on. When I did that, all the noise quit.
Speaker 2: It was still lightly raining. I could hear the rain
Speaker 2: that all the other noise quit. I got into my
Speaker 2: car driver's side had turned a car and lights came on.
Speaker 2: I've turned the brights on. I couldn't see anything. I
Speaker 2: had a big flashlight. It was very bright. I got
Speaker 2: that out and I actually somehow had the courage to
Speaker 2: get out of my car, just stand beside my door
Speaker 2: and skin around the car, around one side, around where
Speaker 2: I'm at. I didn't see anything, no eyes shine, nothing.
Speaker 2: Got back in my car, shut the car off, locked
Speaker 2: all the doors. I didn't hear anything for the rest
Speaker 2: of the night. It was very strange. My dog didn't
Speaker 2: leave my side. She's not usually one to bark and stuff,
Speaker 2: but when she's home, if there's kayats around, she'll bark.
Speaker 2: So she didn't make a noise. So that was very
Speaker 2: unusual of her. That's that experience. After that, I'd been
Speaker 2: back to that area numerous times, even with my kids
Speaker 2: would come over with me, travel with me, and we'd
Speaker 2: go hike, not very far. We'd just hike around the
Speaker 2: campground and stuff. But my daughter she wanted to leave
Speaker 2: peanut Butter out. I was like, all right, something fun
Speaker 2: for her to do, So I took her back. Probably
Speaker 2: you could still see the car. We walked into the
Speaker 2: woods just over this little brook down from the campground.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe hundred yards into the woods. You
Speaker 2: could still see the car. I was like, this might
Speaker 2: be a good spot to set it here. She puts
Speaker 2: it down and we walk out go home. By a
Speaker 2: week later, two weeks later, I come back to the
Speaker 2: area and I'm like, I'm gonna go see if anything
Speaker 2: was messed with. Jar was gone. It was like, what
Speaker 2: that sucks because I don't really like leaving the jar
Speaker 2: out there. But we couldn't find it. A friend of
Speaker 2: mine actually came there a couple so it was he
Speaker 2: and his wife came out with me and we were
Speaker 2: hiking around and we went back to this little brook.
Speaker 2: They were gonna do a video for his YouTube channel,
Speaker 2: and I just told him. I was like, I feel weird,
Speaker 2: let's just hurry up. Probably about twenty seconds acher, I
Speaker 2: said that this is a rock that got thrown at
Speaker 2: us down off the side of the mountain. Just to
Speaker 2: give new perspective size with my hand in this rock.
Speaker 2: It's actually got pretty decent weight to it. This rock
Speaker 2: comes up through the trees, so not down up the
Speaker 2: side of this mountain. It was through the top of
Speaker 2: the trees. Because you could hear it through the top
Speaker 2: of the trees. We watch it hit the other side
Speaker 2: of the embankment from where we were standing. You feel
Speaker 2: the thudt it hit. We watched it roll down in
Speaker 2: the leaves towards the brook we were standing at. We
Speaker 2: all froze, didn't say anything. There's not a sound in
Speaker 2: the forest, nothing, there's no birds, no nothing. I'm shaking.
Speaker 2: The fight or flight kicks in and I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, okay, let's make our way back to
Speaker 2: the car. I think I'm not going to stand around
Speaker 2: here and wait see what else gets thrown or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I'm anxious to go. They're like, just wait, just listen.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to listen, I want
Speaker 2: to go. We're standing there, and probably about two or
Speaker 2: three minutes later, weich here. Possibly whatever threw this at
Speaker 2: us move down further back behind this. It's like small
Speaker 2: rolling mountains. It moves back further off of this. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call it a hill because it's not a very
Speaker 2: tall mountain. It moves back behind and then it cuts
Speaker 2: down to our left, like it's gonna cut around behind
Speaker 2: us and cut us off between us and our vehicle.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to get nervous because you can hear this
Speaker 2: thing moving and it's snapping popping. It's loud, snap pop,
Speaker 2: snap pop, and it's cutting down back behind us, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, we need to go now because whatever this is,
Speaker 2: if it's gonna cut us off in between, we're not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to get to our car. I am
Speaker 2: walking as fast as I can on very uneven ground,
Speaker 2: very sobby ground. I'm worried I'm gonna twist my ankle
Speaker 2: or walking over logs, crossing little streams and stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: actually far and up in front of the other two
Speaker 2: that I have to stop and wait for them to
Speaker 2: catch up. So I'm facing them, waiting for them to
Speaker 2: catch up, and I'm like, come on, hurry up, let's go.
Speaker 2: I hear this really loud snap. I can't even tell
Speaker 2: you how maybe big this branch was or limb that
Speaker 2: stabbed it. It was very loud, it was very close. I
Speaker 2: just I froze because it literally sounded like it was
Speaker 2: on top of me. So I have froze, and I'm
Speaker 2: standing there. They stop walking. This is the part that
Speaker 2: freaks me out the most is they're looking at me,
Speaker 2: and they stop walking, and they're looking in my direction.
Speaker 2: So I'm facing them. They're facing me. The first thought
Speaker 2: in my mind is something's behind me, something's very close
Speaker 2: to me, and they're looking at this thing. They're not
Speaker 2: looking at me, They're looking beyond me, at this thing,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. I'm terrified. I'm not moving. They start
Speaker 2: rushing me. They're running towards me. When they start moving,
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to know, So I turn
Speaker 2: around and I start heading back towards the car. I
Speaker 2: don't see anything. I get to the car. I'm hitting
Speaker 2: the button to the car, like the alarm button, like
Speaker 2: to unlock it. You can hear the beeping hitting this button.
Speaker 2: Just maybe this noise. It's gonna scare whatever this is.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was thinking, but just hitting
Speaker 2: the button to the car. I think I was hitting
Speaker 2: the unlocked button actually, so that we could get in
Speaker 2: the car. I was hitting the button. I make it
Speaker 2: to the car first, I get in, I start the car.
Speaker 2: They're at the car, so they had to have been
Speaker 2: moving pretty quickly. So when we get in, they're like, go,
Speaker 2: I go. We're leaving. And then again, this is the
Speaker 2: same camp ground area, Wes Morris. It's the same area.
Speaker 2: We get in the car and we leave. We don't
Speaker 2: say anything to each other other than what the heck
Speaker 2: was that. I didn't want to ever go back there,
Speaker 2: at least not for a while, because that was pretty scary.
Speaker 1: For more sasquatch out to see. We're going right back.
Speaker 2: After these messages, a few months, i'd say probably two
Speaker 2: or three months go by. I go back down to
Speaker 2: the area. They have this bright idea. There's trails that
Speaker 2: go back up behind this campground, like hiking trails, and
Speaker 2: there's other parts of this r area that you can
Speaker 2: actually take jeeps up on the jeep trails and stuff,
Speaker 2: and they're pretty rugged. You have to have pretty good
Speaker 2: vehicle to get back up in there. They have this
Speaker 2: bright idea, Hey, we're going to go for a hike
Speaker 2: in the evening back behind this campground. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, I've never done a night hike before. Let's
Speaker 2: do it just before dark. It was enough light out
Speaker 2: where we could get going and still see pretty well.
Speaker 2: So I'd say probably about six seven o'clock. We'd have flashlights,
Speaker 2: obviously we're armed well. Walking up this trail, we get
Speaker 2: probably maybe two miles back. You'd come to this part
Speaker 2: in the trail where you cross this little grassy meadow,
Speaker 2: and then right beyond that it is nothing but pine trees.
Speaker 2: They call it the pine thicket. It's all pine trees.
Speaker 2: There's no other kind of trees, it's just pine. We
Speaker 2: get to the end of that trail and we can
Speaker 2: see across these pine trees. I'm like, I'm not going
Speaker 2: in there. It was like I hit a wall. I
Speaker 2: didn't want to go any further. This is it. We're
Speaker 2: not going any further. We all agree, okay, we're not
Speaker 2: going to go back in there. So we're standing around
Speaker 2: just talking, wait for it to get darker. By the
Speaker 2: time it gets to the point where we can just
Speaker 2: see each other shadows. We start heading back. We try
Speaker 2: our flashlights on. So there's big rocks and tree limb
Speaker 2: roots and stuff you can trip over, so it's a
Speaker 2: pretty dangerous little trail. So we have our flashlights. We're
Speaker 2: walking through and we're just meandering through like it's a
Speaker 2: normal hike, just talking normally, not whispering, just talking and
Speaker 2: walking making noise. We all hear this loud dump noise happens.
Speaker 2: It's one of the that you can seal in your feet.
Speaker 2: It makes us all stop. Mind you, we're not like
Speaker 2: super close to each other, we're probably within we're or
Speaker 2: four feet of each other walking. We all feel this
Speaker 2: stump and we hear this thump, and we stop and
Speaker 2: we're listening. We don't hear anything, and then we realize
Speaker 2: we don't hear anything else. There's no crickets, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: It's just dead quiet. We're maybe halfway back. So we
Speaker 2: hugged in probably about an hour and a half and
Speaker 2: we're still half an hour to forty minutes of a
Speaker 2: hike to get out yet, so we're like, let's pick
Speaker 2: up our pace, let's keep going, because at this point
Speaker 2: we're all nervous. We can't hear anything else in the
Speaker 2: woods but us. So we're walking and we're trying to
Speaker 2: actually stay quiet now because we're the only ones making
Speaker 2: any kind of noise. Then we hear this whistle, very distinctive,
Speaker 2: one quick whistle, almost like someone's whistling for you to like, hey,
Speaker 2: just a quick whistle. We stop. We turn off all
Speaker 2: of our lights. Don't ask me why. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a stupid idea. So let's turn
Speaker 2: all your lights off. Turn your lights like, well, I'm
Speaker 2: not turning my light off. I want to be able
Speaker 2: to see if something's coming. That didn't sound like it
Speaker 2: was very far away. Anyway, we turn our lights off.
Speaker 2: I'm literally huddled up shoulder to shoulder next to his
Speaker 2: wife and I'm standing there and she starts she's shaking.
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's making me shake or if
Speaker 2: I'm making her shake, but she's shaking. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we need to keep moving. We can't just stand here.
Speaker 2: We can't move unless we turn our lights on. So
Speaker 2: after about three or four minutes, we decide, okay, we'll
Speaker 2: turn our lights back on. Still no noise other than us,
Speaker 2: absolutely no noise or walking. I would say, probably about
Speaker 2: a good ten to fifteen minutes go by, we still
Speaker 2: don't hear anything else. We'd start to settle in, Okay,
Speaker 2: nothing else is happened. We're okay. We're maybe ten minutes
Speaker 2: from the car. Snap snap pop. On the left side
Speaker 2: of us, down on this other ridge, snap pop snap pop.
Speaker 2: So there's something on the right side of us. There's
Speaker 2: something on the left side of us, and it's not
Speaker 2: directly beside us, it's behind us. We hear this movement
Speaker 2: on either side of us. I know North Carolina has bears.
Speaker 2: I am absolutely terrified of bears. I do not like bears.
Speaker 2: I never, ever in my life want to encounter a
Speaker 2: bear in the wild. So that's actually my first thought,
Speaker 2: aside from the whistle. I wasn't even thinking of that.
Speaker 2: I was like, I hope it's not bears. My friends,
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a bear. I'm like, Okay, do
Speaker 2: I hope this is a bear? Or do I hope
Speaker 2: it's not a bear. We're walking and we hear these
Speaker 2: noises and it's coming up, so it's not necessarily getting
Speaker 2: closer to us this way. It's getting closer to us
Speaker 2: from the side. It's coming up to the trail. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm shaking right now. We're walking a lot faster now,
Speaker 2: or at a very brisk walk. With our flashlights. We
Speaker 2: can just see the reflection at the car lights. I
Speaker 2: keep telling myself, don't run. I have to keep repeating
Speaker 2: to myself, don't run. All of a sudden, whatever these
Speaker 2: things are, they come up to the edge of the
Speaker 2: trail and stop. We can't hear anything anymore. When it stops,
Speaker 2: we actually stop because they're close to the car. We're like, okay,
Speaker 2: if we have to really move to get to the car,
Speaker 2: maybe we can make it. So we all stop with
Speaker 2: terror flashlights off and we're listening. We don't hear anything else.
Speaker 2: Then we hear I would say we were standing up
Speaker 2: for maybe a minute or two. We're not hearing anything. Still,
Speaker 2: no bug noise. We hear a whistle on one side,
Speaker 2: then we hear a grunt on the other side, and
Speaker 2: then nothing. Then we hear a whistle on the other side,
Speaker 2: and then a grunt on the other side. So they're
Speaker 2: whistling and grunting whatever this is, back and forth to
Speaker 2: each other, probably three or four times. Then it just
Speaker 2: went silent. There was my friend gets the bright idea
Speaker 2: to whistle back. So whistle back. Nothing, whistles again, nothing.
Speaker 2: He whistles a couple times, two or three times. The
Speaker 2: last time he whistled something. I want to say it
Speaker 2: might have been a stick, It might have been a rock.
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything because we had no lights on.
Speaker 2: Whatever it was, it threw something across and it landed
Speaker 2: in the middle of where this trail was. We know
Speaker 2: that because part of this trail it had rocks. It
Speaker 2: was rocky. It sounded like it hit the middle of
Speaker 2: this trail we were on. So it turned lights on
Speaker 2: and there's nothing there. We heard it hit, we heard
Speaker 2: something get tron, but we don't know where it's at.
Speaker 2: At that point, we make it to the car. We
Speaker 2: get in the car relief. So that's that experience. I
Speaker 2: never went night hiking again after that. That was the
Speaker 2: one and only time I ever went night hiking after that.
Speaker 2: There was one other incident in this same general area.
Speaker 2: There is a location it's called Reservation Road. Are you
Speaker 2: familiar with that? Okay, So there's a little town area
Speaker 2: called El Dorado. There's actually a very popular spot that
Speaker 2: all the jeeps before they go up on the trails,
Speaker 2: they stop and they stole up and they get food.
Speaker 2: It's called El Dorodo outposts. On the other side fram
Speaker 2: where Wes Morris and all that is. You come through
Speaker 2: on that highway and you cut off on this road
Speaker 2: and it's called Reservation Road. You go down. There's some
Speaker 2: little camp areas down there, picnic tables and stuff. Just
Speaker 2: as you turn in there's a big porta potti house
Speaker 2: out there, benches places people can set up tents and stuff.
Speaker 2: You bypass that and you go down this road. You
Speaker 2: go all the way down. There's a gun range out there.
Speaker 2: When you get to the end of this road, there's
Speaker 2: this big cul de sac area and it leads up
Speaker 2: to some other trails. On a separate night, I pulled
Speaker 2: into there, circled around again facing out because I'm not silly,
Speaker 2: I'll want to base out. I have a recorder. It's
Speaker 2: actually an older recorder. Friend of mine gave me their
Speaker 2: card to find now. Actually, but I have a recorder.
Speaker 2: I have my headphones plugged into it and i just
Speaker 2: have it hanging out the side of the window and
Speaker 2: I'm listening because you can hear everything pretty clear with
Speaker 2: this recorder, actually a lot louder than your natural ear.
Speaker 2: I'm listening recording sounds see if I hear anything, and
Speaker 2: I'm sitting in the driver's side of my car. It's
Speaker 2: a pretty moonlit night. You can see the shadows and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's cloudy, so when the clouds come over, you can
Speaker 2: see the shadows moving on the ground. So it's a
Speaker 2: pretty bright night. This whole area that I'm sitting in
Speaker 2: is all gravel. You can see like it almost looks
Speaker 2: like white. From the gravel. I can see the different
Speaker 2: textures of the tree line and the bushes in front
Speaker 2: of me. So I'm parked here facing out, and the
Speaker 2: way I'm facing the cult Desact area is to my left,
Speaker 2: and I'm facing towards the right to go out on
Speaker 2: the road. Basically, the front of my car is at
Speaker 2: an angle, and I can see a whole big section
Speaker 2: of the trees in front of me and a big
Speaker 2: section of the road that's going out. I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2: I don't know what time it is, it's late, probably
Speaker 2: one two o'clock in the morning. I'm listening. I don't
Speaker 2: hear anything. I'm actually starting to get bored, trying not
Speaker 2: to fall asleep. I just open my eyes and I
Speaker 2: look out my windshield right across from where I'm sitting.
Speaker 2: It's not a huge distance, but it's some distance. I'd
Speaker 2: say probably ten fifteen feet is the tree line. Something
Speaker 2: I don't know what comes out of this tree line.
Speaker 2: How to explain this? You know what a crab looks like?
Speaker 2: Visioning a big black crab come out of the woods
Speaker 2: in a horseshoe shape. So it comes out of the woods.
Speaker 2: I could see I guess it's arms and legs or
Speaker 2: whatever going up and down like a crab. And it
Speaker 2: comes out of the trees and goes right back in.
Speaker 2: It was almost like a came out saw my vehicle
Speaker 2: and was like oh crap, and went right back into
Speaker 2: the trees like very quick, like one two, three, gone
Speaker 2: like not even three seconds. It was just it came
Speaker 2: out and bat right back in. I don't know what
Speaker 2: it was. All I know is it was a dark figure.
Speaker 2: I could see what it looked like. Its arms and
Speaker 2: legs were going like up and down, but it moved
Speaker 2: like a crab. And the way it came out and
Speaker 2: went back in it was almost like it it came
Speaker 2: in sideways. Does that make sense. It's hard to explain
Speaker 2: the way a crab walks its sideways. Just imagine watching
Speaker 2: a crab come out and back in sideways. Unplack. What
Speaker 2: was that? Whatever? It was on all fours, but it
Speaker 2: was too big to be a bear. And then I
Speaker 2: got to thinking, okay, but I could see long like
Speaker 2: almost like long whims coming out from the body of it.
Speaker 2: It was like this crab thing came out and right
Speaker 2: back into the woods. I didn't see a face. It
Speaker 2: was just a figure, but I could see, I am
Speaker 2: assuming what was its arms and legs just moving up
Speaker 2: and down in that crab motion, and right back into
Speaker 2: the woods. No idea what it was. I didn't hear
Speaker 2: a thing on my recorder. I could hear everything else.
Speaker 2: There was sounds of the forest. I didn't hear trees stopping.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear bushes moving. I didn't hear gravel because
Speaker 2: I was sitting on gravel and it came out far
Speaker 2: enough that it was on the gravels. I would have thought, okay,
Speaker 2: I would have heard the gravel noise. I didn't hear
Speaker 2: gravel noise. I don't know what it was. I don't
Speaker 2: know what I saw, but it was weird. I just
Speaker 2: put it in that little box that of Okay, that
Speaker 2: was weird. I don't know what it was. I can't
Speaker 2: explain it, but I saw it, and who knows what
Speaker 2: it was. That was the only time I ever sat
Speaker 2: on that road and the only time I ever saw anything.
Speaker 2: It's just weird, strange.
Speaker 1: As you're telling the story, I don't know how accurate
Speaker 1: this may or may not be, but I'm envisioning there's
Speaker 1: an illustration, I guess, of somebody's eyewitness account of what
Speaker 1: they said they saw a sasquatch doing. It's they call
Speaker 1: it the spider crawl, and I've heard of that. It's
Speaker 1: down on all fours, the arms and the legs are
Speaker 1: in this weird position. But that's what I'm envisioning in
Speaker 1: my brain as you're telling this story. I'm sure anybody
Speaker 1: who's listening to this now that's familiar with this illustration,
Speaker 1: and I'll try to find it before we post this
Speaker 1: for you guys to check out over on the blog
Speaker 1: for this episode. Hopefully I'll be able to find this image.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's pretty common. I've seen it multiple times,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm envisioning. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of questions I want to go back
Speaker 1: to in some of the other stuff that we talked about.
Speaker 1: But is that the impression that you got, given that
Speaker 1: you've heard of these things crawling and doing spider crawl
Speaker 1: on all fours? Obviously it's subjective. You didn't see, you
Speaker 1: can't say definitively what it was. But do you get
Speaker 1: the impression looking back in hindsight? Now, do you think
Speaker 1: it was possibly a sasquatch on all fours or you
Speaker 1: think it might have been something else? I, honestly, I
Speaker 1: can't say I personally would say it was likely a
Speaker 1: sasquatch in that movement in that position because I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything ever like that before, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what else to classify it as, honestly, but knowing like
Speaker 1: you said, knowing that it's been reported that they do that.
Speaker 2: But see, this thing wasn't huge, It wasn't big, but
Speaker 2: it was big enough that it was bigger than me.
Speaker 2: I don't know any person that could get done on
Speaker 2: all fours and move like that, not in one fluid
Speaker 2: motion like that. Personal way.
Speaker 1: The other thing, I want to go back to, working
Speaker 1: my way chronologically backwards. Here the rock that you held up,
Speaker 1: and I'll certainly I'll do a steal or something of that.
Speaker 1: So you guys can see it over on the blog
Speaker 1: for the episode. Impression at the time when you guys
Speaker 1: were in the moment and that thing came flying in
Speaker 1: that this thing was out to do you harm or
Speaker 1: do you think it was just warning you off? What
Speaker 1: do you feel about the rock throwing thing in the
Speaker 1: moment and in hindsight looking back.
Speaker 2: In the moment, I would say, to be honest, I
Speaker 2: feel like it was trying to deter us, like maybe
Speaker 2: we were in its path. I was scared, I was shaking,
Speaker 2: I was ready to go. But again thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and in hindsight, I don't feel like it was trying
Speaker 2: to hit us. It was trying to harm us. Really,
Speaker 2: it was trying to say, hey, I'm here, get out
Speaker 2: of here. Because I feel that if it wanted it
Speaker 2: to hit us, it very well could have the projection
Speaker 2: of how far this rock was because we didn't see
Speaker 2: what it came from. It came from a very good
Speaker 2: distance away, mind you, it was on a taller hill
Speaker 2: from us. Obviously the trajectory from that might have helped
Speaker 2: some as far as the distance of where it was
Speaker 2: coming from. But the fact that I myself, when we
Speaker 2: were there, I was throwing that rock. My friend was
Speaker 2: throwing that rock, and neither of us could make it
Speaker 2: very far. There's no way a person from that distance
Speaker 2: not being able to see who threw it at us.
Speaker 2: From that distance, there's no way we wouldn't have known
Speaker 2: who it was.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see we'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: But we didn't see anybody. We just heard and saw
Speaker 2: the rock where it landed, and that was a pretty
Speaker 2: far throw. Whatever that had had the strength to throw
Speaker 2: it that far, we'll just put it that way. But
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it was trying to purposely hurt us.
Speaker 2: I think we were in its way fair enough.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to go back to is
Speaker 1: the first experience you talked about. You were around four
Speaker 1: years old, your uncle and your dad leaving their fishing
Speaker 1: poles behind and coming up and getting on the tractor
Speaker 1: and getting you guys out of there. I'm curious did
Speaker 1: your dad ever revisit that, Did he ever talk to
Speaker 1: you about or have you had the conversation with him
Speaker 1: about what he and you guys saw that night? Did
Speaker 1: he think it was a sasquatch. Did he have that
Speaker 1: in his nomenclature? Was that something that he had dealt
Speaker 1: with As far as you're aware of in the past,
Speaker 1: or have any knowledge of that.
Speaker 2: Incident in particular, we never spoke of. He never mentioned it,
Speaker 2: did that I know of. He and my uncle didn't
Speaker 2: talk about it either. It was just something he never
Speaker 2: brought up. And like I said, my dad, he was
Speaker 2: brought up down in the rugged him and several other siblings.
Speaker 2: They grew up very poor, very hard off. My uncle
Speaker 2: that we went fishing with, he could actually take a
Speaker 2: stone throw it. That's how he hunted rabbits. He would
Speaker 2: actually throw a stone, and I went with him one
Speaker 2: time he would throw a stone and he'd hit a
Speaker 2: rabbit in the head and knock it out. And that's
Speaker 2: how they went rabbit hunting. So knowing my dad was
Speaker 2: very difficult to scare. He wasn't afraid of anything. There
Speaker 2: was times he go out of the house in middle
Speaker 2: of the night thinking in hindsight about different stuff that
Speaker 2: happened around that particular house that we lived in where
Speaker 2: we went fishing. Behind A lot of strange stuff happened
Speaker 2: out there. He would go outside, fire off a shotgun,
Speaker 2: wasn't afraid of anything. He'd walk around the house that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. I just thought he was very brave.
Speaker 2: He never brought up that incident at all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me at all. That's a common theme
Speaker 1: that I hear over and over. It's so interesting. This
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite things about the job. Before
Speaker 1: I clicked record, you and I were talking about I've
Speaker 1: been doing interviews all day. One of those interviews was
Speaker 1: a guy that is actually over in the United Kingdom.
Speaker 1: He's a big fan of the show. He's been listening
Speaker 1: since the beginning. He's very much into data. He's a
Speaker 1: data guy. He went onto the BFRO website. Obviously his
Speaker 1: interview will be out for everybody to listen to. I'm
Speaker 1: sure Wayne and I will talk about this on that
Speaker 1: Bigfoot podcast at some time, because he emailed us a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and started sending us over some
Speaker 1: of the statistical breakdown. He went through almost all of
Speaker 1: the data that's available on the BFRO website, which is
Speaker 1: I think he said something like five thousand plus and
Speaker 1: he didn't obviously read every single report, but he took
Speaker 1: all of this data and put it together. One of
Speaker 1: the things that I kept making note of as you
Speaker 1: were talking is, he said, statistically, you would think most
Speaker 1: of us think, at least when I first got into this,
Speaker 1: and up until recently when I started doing my own research,
Speaker 1: I would always just assume that you would see and
Speaker 1: have more bigfoot experiences and or class A encounters in
Speaker 1: the summertime. There's more people out, it's nice weather, everything's
Speaker 1: out during the summer. But actually, no, it's the month
Speaker 1: of October. Which is interesting because a couple of your
Speaker 1: experiences happened in the month of October. You said there
Speaker 1: was a couple of time lapses that went on between
Speaker 1: leaving and coming back. I don't know if you really
Speaker 1: looked into dialing into how many of your experiences have
Speaker 1: happened on or near the month of October, but I
Speaker 1: found it statistically interesting that I just had this conversation
Speaker 1: with him today. He made the comment, he joked, we're
Speaker 1: right in the middle of October. If you're going to
Speaker 1: have an experience with bigfoot, go out into the woods now,
Speaker 1: because it might happen. That's just one of those little
Speaker 1: things that I love about this is because I'm having
Speaker 1: this conversation with him earlier today, and then you're talking
Speaker 1: about things that happened two thousand and one, two thousand
Speaker 1: and two, and just as recently as a few years ago.
Speaker 1: The little nuance is rain. You mentioned. Rain was another
Speaker 1: thing that he talked about. Statistically, the sightings tend to
Speaker 1: go down in the rainy times because very few people
Speaker 1: like to be out in the rain. Nobody wants to
Speaker 1: go camping in the rain, Nobody wants to hike in
Speaker 1: the rain. So the fact that you were out there
Speaker 1: and you were the only person there and had that experience,
Speaker 1: I find it very interesting because it could have very
Speaker 1: easily been somebody else and they might have had the
Speaker 1: exact same experience that most people want, because they don't
Speaker 1: put themselves in a campground in the middle of the week.
Speaker 1: Most people go on Saturdays. Statistically, Saturday is the best
Speaker 1: day for US saturd squat siding because that's when most
Speaker 1: of them are reported, because it's a human thing, because
Speaker 1: we're out hiking, hunting, and doing all the things that
Speaker 1: we do typically on Saturdays. Because if you're a normal person,
Speaker 1: most people have a nine to five Monday through Friday
Speaker 1: kind of situation. As far as work. It's just all
Speaker 1: these little nuances. I find it interesting. I'm kicking myself
Speaker 1: because I'm in North Carolina. It's been on my bucket
Speaker 1: list forever to go to the Yuari and you're in
Speaker 1: North Dakota. You know more about the Yarri area than
Speaker 1: I do because you've been there a ton of times.
Speaker 1: I have it gone out to that area specifically because
Speaker 1: I think it's oversaturated with so many accounts that have
Speaker 1: come out of there recently. It's my own fault. I've
Speaker 1: had several people on multiple times that have had experiences
Speaker 1: in the Yuari, and I think podcast and shows that
Speaker 1: have done I don't know if Finding Bigfoot's been out there.
Speaker 1: I think they did an episode out in the Yuari
Speaker 1: or in that area. I think we've done ourselves a
Speaker 1: little bit of a disservice because I do think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there now it's hard to
Speaker 1: discern what's real and what's not. But I certainly want
Speaker 1: to get out to that area because there's so many
Speaker 1: amazing stories that come out of there, and people are
Speaker 1: still having experiences that they can't explain that aren't related
Speaker 1: to people. I think it's interesting that you've been out
Speaker 1: there several times and had different experiences at different times
Speaker 1: of the year.
Speaker 2: I would say I've been out to the ri area.
Speaker 2: And to keep in mind, the URIs aren't just in
Speaker 2: one spot. It's spread out, so you'll have a group
Speaker 2: of YI forests here and then over here you'll have
Speaker 2: another group, and over here you have So there's different
Speaker 2: areas of the ras you can go because it's a
Speaker 2: pretty good sized area. Now I've been there probably about
Speaker 2: ten or twelve times in the past couple of years.
Speaker 2: There's another area and I don't know if it's I
Speaker 2: want to say it is connected to the urs, but
Speaker 2: there's another small area, a group of trees that I've
Speaker 2: hiped back into. And like I said, I have so
Speaker 2: many different experiences. I can't distinguish if it's Sasquatch, if
Speaker 2: it's something else. I've caught things on camera. I caught
Speaker 2: something on my night vision sitting in number ten at
Speaker 2: wes Morris in the rain. There's so many different things,
Speaker 2: and I don't experience something every time I go out.
Speaker 2: I experience something maybe one out of five times. So
Speaker 2: I can go there many times during one visit. But
Speaker 2: I've only been to North Carolina. Probably I want to
Speaker 2: say twelve to fifteen times. I don't want to sell
Speaker 2: it short because it's been quite a few times. But
Speaker 2: as far as being out in the woods, probably twenty
Speaker 2: five thirty times. So I've had these different experiences, but
Speaker 2: not every time. Somebody thinks if you're going to go
Speaker 2: out into the woods and you have an experience, it's
Speaker 2: going to happen more often than not. That's not true.
Speaker 2: You are less likely to have an experience than you
Speaker 2: are to have an experience. The fact that I've had
Speaker 2: all of these different things happen most of the time
Speaker 2: I've been by myself. There's been a few times I've
Speaker 2: been with a couple of other people. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if you're by yourself or if you're with a few people,
Speaker 2: if you're in the rain, or if you're not. So
Speaker 2: when you say most of all these things happen in October,
Speaker 2: you're right. From the most of the times that I've
Speaker 2: been out there and had something unexplainable I want to say,
Speaker 2: or seen something. It has been from probably September October
Speaker 2: all the way to January February. So all the things
Speaker 2: I've had happen is from the fall through the winter
Speaker 2: in that area. I don't know why or what that is,
Speaker 2: but I will say the one area that I'm talking
Speaker 2: about West Morris and those trails, the jeep trails. Those
Speaker 2: jeep trails have a season in the summertime. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of people that are being very loud and very
Speaker 2: noisy with those jeeps. There's a bunch. I've been out
Speaker 2: there in the summertime and you can't drive down that
Speaker 2: road without passing twenty jeeps within ten minutes because they're
Speaker 2: all following each other. They're all going up into the trails,
Speaker 2: even at night. I feel that these creatures in that
Speaker 2: area they know when open season is, so when all
Speaker 2: those jeeps and those trails close and jeeps aren't allowed
Speaker 2: to come into those trails, they come back and they
Speaker 2: get closer to that camp area than they normally would.
Speaker 2: When there's a lot of people I've heard, because there's
Speaker 2: people that would actually talk about it that I ran into,
Speaker 2: there'll be a report almost white clockwork, there'll be one, two,
Speaker 2: three reports right at the beginning of open season for
Speaker 2: those trails. Somebody will have a siding or they'll have
Speaker 2: an experience, and then there'll be nothing for the rest
Speaker 2: of that season because there's too many people, there's too
Speaker 2: much noise. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: You definitely may be right on making a note to myself,
Speaker 1: I need to take my trip to the Ure's probably
Speaker 1: somewhere around October November. I think that's going to be
Speaker 1: a date for myself. Maybe it won't happen this year,
Speaker 1: maybe in twenty twenty five. Tasha, I really appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on and sharing your experiences. I have had a
Speaker 1: blast talking to you.
Speaker 2: No, thank you so much for having me and for
Speaker 2: letting me share. It's been great. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I have ever been on a podcast before, so I'm
Speaker 2: very thankful.
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