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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Well, the American

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<v Speaker 1>way is to take big problems head on, don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>bury your head in the sand, or you get your

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<v Speaker 1>you know what kicked, and to endure some pain in

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<v Speaker 1>order to a survive, be thrive, and three, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get more freedom. That That has been the history of America.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only reason that any of us are here

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<v Speaker 1>right now, speaking English and having the freedoms we do,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And anybody who cannot see that we are

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<v Speaker 1>headed toward the cliff in multiple ways economically, just isn't

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<v Speaker 1>paining attention. Now, does that mean the tariffs are the solution?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm no expert on tariffs, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know we need a solution. And everybody's talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>price of tariffs right now. Hey, I had to look

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<v Speaker 1>at my four oh one k right. I didn't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're doing taxes. So my wife said, okay, give

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<v Speaker 1>me the phone. Then I'll open your schwab app, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>send them what they need. And then unfortunately I saw

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<v Speaker 1>what she opened up. Yeah, it's real painful right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is no way that we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>from here to there economically and get the stability we

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<v Speaker 1>need to get the national security we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>this strong America and American manufacturing. We need to get

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<v Speaker 1>the national debt down the way we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>it down. There's no way we're getting from here to

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<v Speaker 1>there without some kind of pain and some big fix

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I just respect Trump for being willing to

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<v Speaker 1>endure some political pain to try to get us fixed. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I have confidence that this play is going

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<v Speaker 1>to work? Simply because I have confidence in Trump when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to economic stuff. He's not God, he's not perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's got a lot more success in anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>we've had a long time around here. I also have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of confidence in his personal desire to win

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<v Speaker 1>and to succeed, right, I mean, that's been proven over time.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't be doing this unless he really believed it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to work and he had a plan. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when it comes to the critics, most of whom

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<v Speaker 1>on the Democrat side are hoping the economy fails. On

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican side, and there are critics they want the

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<v Speaker 1>economy to succeed. They just think he's wrong. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the critics, think about all the critics

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<v Speaker 1>from both parties who have told you from the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>ANDERR.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump, he's going to start World War three, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's colluding with Russia, etc. And then look where we

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<v Speaker 1>end up. Right, So no, I do trust him on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll find out, I think pretty soon, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>well placed or not. I want to shift gears for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Go to Jarvis Caldwell. He's a Republican in

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<v Speaker 1>House District twenty elected there and I really appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>representative posting some sound that I caught on X last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll let you describe it. But I think folks

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<v Speaker 1>really need to hear about this and then we can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what to do. But please, sir, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here and set the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, thank you so much for having me. So.

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<v Speaker 3>The context of this was on Tuesday, House built thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>twelve legal protections for transgender individuals, which I will say

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<v Speaker 3>is probably the most radical bill we've seen so far

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<v Speaker 3>this session, and we've seen some pretty bad ones. And

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<v Speaker 3>so what I did on X yesterday was I posted

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<v Speaker 3>a side by side of a portion of my closing

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<v Speaker 3>statement where I was basically saying, you know what we

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<v Speaker 3>heard witness testimony today that this has been stakeholdered for

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<v Speaker 3>over a year, even though the bill just got introduced

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<v Speaker 3>on Friday evening after we went home, and then on

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<v Speaker 3>Monday we found out that this bill was going to

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<v Speaker 3>bill had been introduced. And so I basically said, I

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<v Speaker 3>I posed the question, you know, has this bill been

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<v Speaker 3>stakeholdered with the non LGBT community, specifically the printal rights groups?

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<v Speaker 3>And what the clip demonstrates is the closing statements from

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<v Speaker 3>Representative Yarozo Kai and the Chairman Javier Maybury, and they

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<v Speaker 3>said just flat out, you know, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>stakeholder with hate groups. And then Representative o Kai basically

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<v Speaker 3>we wouldn't we wouldn't go to the KKK if we're

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<v Speaker 3>writing civil rights legislation. And it was just absolutely stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just it's just nutty, haiti stuff. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>access thirty two on my screen. Rank can you punch

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<v Speaker 1>it for us? Here's the sound, and again this is

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<v Speaker 1>representative Jarvis with us, but but it is it is

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<v Speaker 1>just hateful, nutty stuff. And as we get that queued up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a little technical glitch, which means it's my fault, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can assure you, representative, anytime there's a technical

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<v Speaker 1>glitch here, somehow it is my fault in reality, in reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about it before we get this sound

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<v Speaker 1>cued up. So tell us about the people who would

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<v Speaker 1>do this, tell us about the parental rights groups that

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<v Speaker 1>they're comparing it to, that they're comparing to the KKK,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And tell us about the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, so they didn't say explicitly who these these

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<v Speaker 3>parents groups were. I imagine it's like the Colorado Parents

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<v Speaker 3>Advocacy Network SEAPAN, which are just really concerned parents and

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<v Speaker 3>they're a great group of people. They may have been

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, you know, moms for Liberty groups or something,

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<v Speaker 3>but just in general, all I said was, did you

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<v Speaker 3>talk to the you know, basically the non leftist activist

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<v Speaker 3>parents rights groups, and that was their response to say

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<v Speaker 3>their hate groups, because if you don't fully believe what

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<v Speaker 3>they believe, then you're obviously a part of a hate group.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was incredible to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's listen to that together.

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<v Speaker 4>How willing would you be to look at a new

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<v Speaker 4>food pyramid and instituting.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing that right now when we okay, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting better. And by the way, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about the new food period food pyramid, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>would you fire that we'd heard.

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<v Speaker 3>From multiple witnesses that this bill has been worked on

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<v Speaker 3>for over a year. I will say I learned about

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<v Speaker 3>this bill yesterday. It was introduced Friday evening. I really

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<v Speaker 3>am curious about how much stakeholding went on both sides

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<v Speaker 3>of the issue, and if parent groups that are that

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<v Speaker 3>are not a part of the LGBT community, if they

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<v Speaker 3>were involved.

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<v Speaker 4>A well stakeholded bill does not need to be discussed

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<v Speaker 4>with hate groups. And we don't ask someone passing civil

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<v Speaker 4>rights legislation to go ask the KKK their opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>But I agree there's no reason to go to the

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<v Speaker 5>table with people who are echoing the hate rhetoric going

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<v Speaker 5>around about the trans community.

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<v Speaker 1>Remarkable representative chargists who who are the I assume from

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<v Speaker 1>their comments hateful idiots my words, not yours who made

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<v Speaker 1>those remarks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that is Representative Yarozo Kai and the Chairman

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<v Speaker 3>of Judiciary, Representative Javier Maybury. I know Maybury is from Denver.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe so Kai is from maybe a Rapahoe County.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know specifically the area or their house district

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<v Speaker 3>numbers off the top of my head, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they are just very left wing Democrats in the legislature

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<v Speaker 3>and in the bill in general. Is just it's very extreme.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it basically it says that if you missgender

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<v Speaker 3>your child, your own child, if you miss gender your child,

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<v Speaker 3>that's considered coercive control, which is a form of child

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<v Speaker 3>abuse by definition. And I think the and this is

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<v Speaker 3>my cynical side here, I think the intent is to

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<v Speaker 3>basically get rid of the ability to try to get

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<v Speaker 3>or gender dysphoria, because how can you get them help

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<v Speaker 3>if you have to tell them, no, you're not actually

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<v Speaker 3>a girl, you're a boy. We're going to go get

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<v Speaker 3>you help, because just the act of doing that is

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<v Speaker 3>misgendering them, which they are saying in this bill that

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<v Speaker 3>that is child abuse. It is very extreme. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>just one portion of the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about that key point you just made,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's exactly what's going on, and it also, in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, explains they're extraordinarily hateful rhetoric that they're engaging in.

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<v Speaker 1>And otherwise I assume smart people saying very idiotic things

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<v Speaker 1>because in my experience, that's what you see. When they

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<v Speaker 1>know that they can't win the argument, they can't win

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<v Speaker 1>the argument on logic or reason or moraleity or law,

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<v Speaker 1>is they start spewing venom like this, right, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing it's up in the US Supreme Court now,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, same thing they're trying to do with

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<v Speaker 1>counselors in Colorado. Oh no, a counselor can't be speaking

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<v Speaker 1>the truth to kids about their real gender and telling them, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you really are a boy, and here's how we can

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're a boy. They try to outlaw that speech,

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<v Speaker 1>which fortunately got the attention of the US Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about to reverse that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So they started with the counselors, and now they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to the parents. And this bill specifically says that

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<v Speaker 3>if you're in a custody dispute that they call it

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<v Speaker 3>paramount consideration. So basically, the preference goes to the parents

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<v Speaker 3>who affirms the gender, and so they're giving them, they're

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<v Speaker 3>putting the sum on the scale in a legal situation

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<v Speaker 3>to favor the parent who is continuing this gender confusion for.

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<v Speaker 1>The child representative. Can you stay for another segment because

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to deep dive this with you and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to play that sound again. But they representative either

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<v Speaker 1>obviously very knowledgeable when it comes to what's going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the headline today is the elected Colorado Democrats attacking

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<v Speaker 1>the parents groups that'd say, no, wait a second, we

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to talk to our children about their

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<v Speaker 1>true gender, labeling them as hate groups, comparing them to

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<v Speaker 1>the KKK. What does that tell you? You're on the Dankpla Show.

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<v Speaker 6>And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty two. Glad you're here. Special guest Representative Jarvis Caldwell,

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<v Speaker 1>he's Republican House District twenty, has been deep diving with us.

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<v Speaker 1>He's extraordinarily radical trans rights bills. And I put that

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<v Speaker 1>in quotes because obviously it's a gross deprivation of parental rights,

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<v Speaker 1>of business owner rights, etc. But we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>twist to this, and in committee a number of elected

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats comparing parents groups to the KKK and other hate

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<v Speaker 1>groups and saying that's why they won't consult with them

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<v Speaker 1>on this bill. They're trying to sneak through at the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. So representative for those who may have just

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<v Speaker 1>joined us during the break, I'm going to replay the

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<v Speaker 1>sound that you posted and then ask you to fill

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<v Speaker 1>us in on what occurred and what comes next with

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<v Speaker 1>these bills. So here's what happened in Part and committee.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd heard from multiple witnesses that this bill has been

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<v Speaker 3>learned about this bill yesterday. It was introduced Friday evening.

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<v Speaker 3>I really am curious about how much stakeholding went on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides of the issue, and if parent groups that

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<v Speaker 3>are not a part of the LGBT community, if they

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<v Speaker 4>A well stakeholded bill does not need to be discussed

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<v Speaker 4>with hate groups, and we don't ask someone hassing civil

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<v Speaker 5>But I agree there's no reason to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd ask you to identify those elected officials in

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<v Speaker 1>on the merits. But again for those just joining us,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the first the female there is Yara Zokai.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow. And then again for those just joining, a

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<v Speaker 1>quick recap of just how radical these bills are. And

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So this bill is how billed thirteen twelve legal

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<v Speaker 3>protections for transgender individuals. As we talked about on the

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<v Speaker 3>child abuse and you can specifically lose custody over that.

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<v Speaker 3>It also negates other states laws and court orders. So

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<v Speaker 3>you have two people who live in Kansas, they both

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<v Speaker 3>to get gender affirming care. The Kansas court rules that

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado will now ignore that court order, which in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>is a violational Article four, Section one of the US Constitution,

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<v Speaker 3>the Full Faith and Credit Clause. And there's some other

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<v Speaker 3>really concerning things like the gender based dress codes. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ade charter school board member. We have boys uniforms

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<v Speaker 3>and girls' uniforms, and I specifically asked the bill sponsor

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<v Speaker 3>Lorraina Garcia, another Democrat on Judiciary. Does this mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, insane. Would that apply to private schools as well

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<v Speaker 1>in the bill?

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<v Speaker 3>Off the top of my head, if I recollect it

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<v Speaker 3>is your public district, rand schools and charter schools specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just outrageous. And when you say representative misgendering, you

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly so, And as we talked about a lesson, I

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<v Speaker 3>treatment if you can't tell them that they're wrong and

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<v Speaker 3>call them the gender that they are. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>And in our last minute, can you tell me why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Democrats are willing to go to these

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre preposterous, illogical child hurting extremes on this issue? What's

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<v Speaker 1>American people, as the election just proved, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>out of up with the people of Colorado. So why

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<v Speaker 1>are they so obsessed with this lunacy that hurts so

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<v Speaker 7>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very it's a very left wing ideological

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<v Speaker 3>sponsor UH doesn't doesn't have kids, but almost all for

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<v Speaker 3>bills target children with these left wing ideologies, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that that aspect of it is very concerning U. And

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure I get in there before

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<v Speaker 3>to the House floor tomorrow for debate for second readings,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we are gearing up and we're ready to

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<v Speaker 3>fight it all day tomorrow. So if anybody can get

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<v Speaker 3>listen to us, because we're going to be fighting this

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate what you're doing, and let's stay in

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<v Speaker 1>touch on this, Okay. We'd love to get you on

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<v Speaker 1>for regular updates. How can people follow you on X Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at Rep.

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<v Speaker 3>Caldwell.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fighting the good fight, my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, you take care and well we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>to follow. That kind of makes sense, he tells us.

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<v Speaker 1>The bill sponsor doesn't have children. That kind of makes sense, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't you think anybody would parents with their hate group?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Man, Yeah, you would think just anybody who cares

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<v Speaker 1>that a bill like this is insane. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the Left, so much of what they

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<v Speaker 1>do is radically anti child, radically from their holy grail

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<v Speaker 1>of color in you know, to afford to one rate,

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<v Speaker 1>the Left's policies just overtly harm children. So where do

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<v Speaker 1>as well, Hey, perfect iy. After the break is a

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<v Speaker 1>segue George Brockler DA. In the twenty third we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these Tesla terrorists and under Colorado law, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of charges can be brought? Personally, I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>them charged to the max. Three oh three someone three

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>The next couple of months, we're going to offer our

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<v Speaker 7>you say, that's worth thousands of dollars, you come into

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<v Speaker 7>to call a little bit of a time out. We've

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<v Speaker 7>heard some uncertainty from our customers and we want we

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<v Speaker 7>want them to be assured that Ford, the most American

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<v Speaker 7>the most, we export the most, and so we here

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<v Speaker 7>at Ford we're in a good position to address customers

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<v Speaker 1>Glad to hear that, since I owned Ford stock and

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<v Speaker 1>own a Ford Bronco. But GM says it's also going

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<v Speaker 8>A General motorspokesperson is now confirming there was a webcast

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<v Speaker 2>GM.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll be making operational adjustments at at Fort Wayne Assembly,

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<v Speaker 1>Glad to hear that, let's go to the VIP line.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a privilege and a pleasure to welcome George Brockler

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<v Speaker 1>the DA in the twenty third and wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to George today about these Tesla terrorists and under Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>state law, what are the most hell, let's just say,

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<v Speaker 1>toughest charges that could be brought George, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on Quick Story, Dan the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you could. I jumped into a trial, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that we did that we're distracting, you know, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to learn from the jury. And at one point he goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I really have. It's not a question about the case,

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<v Speaker 2>and I go, yeah, yeah, and he goes, do you

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<v Speaker 1>Know Dan Kaplis you're making this up.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not making this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, do you know Dan CAplus?

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<v Speaker 2>I go, no, Dan, I worked for Dan twenty years ago. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's awesome. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure where it went from there, but thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>saying that. No, it's great, that's awesome, And and you

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<v Speaker 1>must have really enjoyed being in court because obviously you're

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't And you know this, you know you and

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<v Speaker 2>folks that have never been there and done that it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds great. You just there's nothing like it. Standing up,

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. They want No, that's that's right. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I try to explain it is. It's just one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most and it's one of the ways, right, George.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a healthy saying. It's one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>the wisdom of the founders, right, they get to make

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<v Speaker 2>She made no comment, how did and she I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>just great to set that example. But what's the max

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we're going to find that the Feds

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<v Speaker 2>do damage arson damage in excess of one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars only looking at a third class felony which is

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<v Speaker 2>presumptively punishable by four to twelve years, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>probation eligible.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Crazy, I know it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can tie these people together, and it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a Tesla takedown moment. If you could tie

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<v Speaker 2>them together and somehow find a way to charge our

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<v Speaker 2>organized crime statue which people might know as RICO but

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<v Speaker 2>we call it Colorado here. That elevates it to a

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<v Speaker 2>second class felony, but also probation eligible in the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Colorado under these facts. Crazy, if someone weren't thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't to be hurt or there was some allegation

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<v Speaker 2>of an attempt murder or crime of violence. That's probably

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<v Speaker 2>the only way we could inch our way into some

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<v Speaker 2>mandatory time. So when you look at the federal charges

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<v Speaker 2>and you see that they're big one the uh what

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<v Speaker 2>is that eight forty four I carries a five to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty year mandatory sentence? You think, Yeah, if we have

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<v Speaker 2>to decide which venue to do this in, probably best

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<v Speaker 2>to do it us court.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have to prove at the federal level?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for the federal level, the three charges that

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<v Speaker 2>these guys are indicted on, two of them are firearms

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<v Speaker 2>relating charges. But the other one, the count number three,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they attempted to damage or destroy by means

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<v Speaker 2>of fire and explosive material vehicles in unterstate commerce. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's an arson specific total.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. And I saw an interesting article today on the

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<v Speaker 1>civil side about somebody pursuing a civil case for large

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<v Speaker 1>damages because it's politically motivated type of terrorism. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado civil law may not lend itself as well to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So charge shifting away from Tesla for the moment, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing going on right now that most

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<v Speaker 1>of us probably don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>About in the twenty third judicial district.

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<v Speaker 1>Or anywhere in your view, because I know you are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a renaissance man. You're watching every saying yeah, yes, so,

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<v Speaker 1>And what's going on right now legislature, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we have and it's just so surreal. What seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me a very criminal friendly, you know, state legislature,

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<v Speaker 1>criminal friendly governor. It seems like they're always playing hold

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<v Speaker 1>my beer and watch this. So what's going on down

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<v Speaker 1>there right now concerns you the most?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a nexus here between local control and criminal

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<v Speaker 2>justice that the legislature is poised to blow up, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is they have a bill that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>make a law that would strip away from municipalities the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to prosecute and punish crimes at variance with the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if Aurora wanted to have a mandatory Hey, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to mandatory jail for ten days for retail theft.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not the state outcome, and I'm here to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you it's not the state outcome, then Auroras wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Be no good.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to change their laws to get to match this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what's going to happen, And we've started to see this.

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<v Speaker 2>When the state started meddling around with telling Aurora basically

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<v Speaker 2>how to prosecute DV cases, Aurora said, guess what, We're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to get out of the business of prosecuting

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<v Speaker 2>DV cases and we're going to save three million Aurora

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayer dollars. And they shifted those hundreds of important cases

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<v Speaker 2>over to the DA's office. So now the DA's office

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<v Speaker 2>is going to the county going, hey, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>hire a ton more prosecutors to handle this. I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>that if the state legislature continues down this road and

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<v Speaker 2>they continue to chisel away at this, two things will happen. One,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see more counties doing what Douglas is doing, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's trying to become a home rule county. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll also see more municipalities look at the state

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<v Speaker 2>and say you want all these cases, good luck, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to get out of the business of any

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<v Speaker 2>municipal prosecution and shove them all on to prosecute.

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<v Speaker 1>State proust, which then triggers all sorts of disasters. Right

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<v Speaker 1>because the judiciary right now in Colorado was swamped nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>near enough judges, and it's you know, they're making it

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<v Speaker 1>so hard for judges to do their job because they're understaffed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you're going to be losing good judges

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<v Speaker 1>and making it harder to attract good new judges. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just just the dominos that they're tipping over, you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>just horrible in so many different ways. But George, appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the time today and hope we connect soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do it. Hey, thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, my friend. Take care of that's George Brockler

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<v Speaker 1>doing a great job in the twenty third and the

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous point he was making about the governor and well,

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<v Speaker 1>assume he's going to sign this disaster, but the left

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<v Speaker 1>of the legislature, you know, trying to take this power

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<v Speaker 1>away from these local jurisdictions. My law partner, John Kellner

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<v Speaker 1>until recently was the DA in the eighteenth which included

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<v Speaker 1>at that time a repo on Douglas wrote a great

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<v Speaker 1>piece on that as well, which you can read in

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<v Speaker 1>the Gazette. You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.

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<v Speaker 6>And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast all the.

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<v Speaker 9>Way to Alexander Hamilton. Alexander Hamilton used them to raise revenue.

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<v Speaker 9>He used them to protect the industry, and present Trump

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<v Speaker 9>is added the third leg of the stool, which is strategic.

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<v Speaker 9>So you know, if we are thinking about a ten

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<v Speaker 9>percent global tariff, and let's assume we we import about

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<v Speaker 9>three trillion a year, so that's three hundred billion, and

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<v Speaker 9>that's a substantial revenue raiser that could then be used

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<v Speaker 9>for working Americans on no tax and tips, no tax

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<v Speaker 9>on social security, no tax on overtime, and for those

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<v Speaker 9>buying autos that they can reduce their bills because interest

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<v Speaker 9>on American made cars will be tax deductible. So this

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<v Speaker 9>is really a working class the.

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<v Speaker 1>Tariff and tax plan in terms of goals for all

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<v Speaker 1>those stated goals, et cetera. That's why the things that

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<v Speaker 1>really excites me is that this tariff move appears to

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<v Speaker 1>be geared in a very significant part to working class America.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the reality, right, is that if there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fair shake for working class America, not fair opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for working class America, and not just words, not just cheerleading,

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<v Speaker 1>but real tangible progress and gains and earning gains and

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<v Speaker 1>stability of jobs, et cetera, this country cannot This country

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<v Speaker 1>cannot endure the way it's envisioned, it just can't. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we get to the issues of we're headed for

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<v Speaker 1>an economic cliff otherwise, so something major needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Tariff's the answer. I sure hope. So I trust that Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>who's had a lot of success in the economic front

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<v Speaker 1>and office, you know, it knows what he's doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he really wants to be a great success. But

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<v Speaker 1>we know one thing status quo No, that is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to work, and it's not going to work long term,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for working people. That was Treasury Secretary. Here's commerce.

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<v Speaker 10>So what's happened to the world is the global governments

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<v Speaker 10>have backed taking our factories away from US. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>there's nothing about Taiwan that they should be making semiconductors,

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<v Speaker 10>there's nothing about Korea they should be making all of

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<v Speaker 10>the appliances and the electronics.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the world.

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<v Speaker 10>What's happened is they had a policy of their governments

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<v Speaker 10>to let's back our companies and let's take this business

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<v Speaker 10>from America while America is not paying attention. So our

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<v Speaker 10>factories went overseas. But what you're going to see is

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<v Speaker 10>the most modern factories of the world come back here.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know there seems to me to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of truth in that, and that's one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I think often gets forgotten, even allies. Right, they're competitors,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and there's nothing wrong or immoral or dishonest

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<v Speaker 1>about that. They're competitors. They're competing with us. They want

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<v Speaker 1>what's best for their own It's just like state to state. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all brothers and sisters united as Americans. But you

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<v Speaker 1>can bet there's cutthroat com petition between states for the

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<v Speaker 1>best jobs, the best companies, et cetera. And you've you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just sit back and let yourself get plucked like that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go back to the phone lines. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll let's start in Inglewood, Colorado, got at least in

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<v Speaker 1>the metro doing the show out of Denver. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado Springs the Great caseysj today in court down there.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the Denver Metro, we've got a decent little

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<v Speaker 1>snow going. Ron and Inglewood's are on the Dan Kaplis show.

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<v Speaker 11>Welcome, Thank you, Dan. I'll say that truck has a

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<v Speaker 11>striking profile.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the cyber truck. Do you think it's good look?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's good look. And I just want one.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I'm curious about it. I've never seen me inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's nice. It's it's kind of bear and spartan,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's nice and it's roomy and it's comfortable.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think you should get one in Well, I

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<v Speaker 11>do too.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you happen to know my wife? It is literally

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to have a better wife than I have, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to disrespect her by getting a vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>that she thinks is the ugliest thing she's ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am, But I am still hoping to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to persuade my way there. I'm sure you will, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because I really want to get it. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up to these Tesla terrorists. Now, admittedly I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>as as excited about standing up to him by but

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<v Speaker 1>why buying one of the other Tesla cars. I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>stand up to him by buying a cyber truck.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I think if you were apt it, it'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, think of the possibilities. I know, and a cyber

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<v Speaker 1>truck is unmistakably strong. Right, nobody will ever look at

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<v Speaker 1>that and think anything other than strength. Yes, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's what you called about.

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<v Speaker 11>Go ahead, my friend, Okay, thank you. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 11>make a comment. When the Supreme Court decided in favor

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<v Speaker 11>of Jack Phillips. He was based on the Civil Rights

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<v Speaker 11>Commission and one of the members named Rice, who likened

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<v Speaker 11>Jack to the Nazis. Yeah, lay, and they called it unprofessional.

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<v Speaker 11>So this language that they're using in the committee is

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<v Speaker 11>just a perfect setup for the Supreme Court to say

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<v Speaker 11>you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right, what a great point. What Ron's referring to

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<v Speaker 1>is we were talking earlier with the Colorado State Rep.

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<v Speaker 1>Jarvis Caldwell, and we played sound and committee of Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>saying no, they're not going to talk to parents groups

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<v Speaker 1>about these radical trans rights bills because you don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the KKK about civil rights bills, is what they said. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to Ron's point, the common denominator between that and comparing

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Phillips to a Nazi, when Jack Phillips is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a great American hero is the Left uses those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tactics and language because it knows it can't win

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<v Speaker 1>the argument, not on logic, not on values, not on law,

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<v Speaker 1>not on morality, So they will not engage in the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation because they know they can't win the argument. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the US Supreme Court is to step in. Said,

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<v Speaker 1>you can bet. I mean, this will be so facially unconstitutional,

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<v Speaker 1>this bill that apparently is on track to pass and

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<v Speaker 1>become law, because you're going to tell a parent. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say to your own son. You can't say

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<v Speaker 1>to your own son's son, you're really you're really a boy,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not a girl, right, you miss gender that's now

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<v Speaker 1>going to be used against you to in a custody battle. Okay, runs,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, good question. I don't think the bill gets

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<v Speaker 1>to this point unless they expect him to sign it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Ron for your call. Enjoyed it right, You're

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<v Speaker 1>the best as always, Kelly, thank you. Please be careful

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<v Speaker 1>out there. It looks like there's going to be some

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<v Speaker 1>tricky weather tonight. I know it's already started in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope to have you back here tomorrow on The Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Kapla Show
