WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:12.160 A A. 2 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:53.600 A A A A A. 3 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:29.000 If you'd like to be able to listen to the 4 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.000 show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 5 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:35.640 that's an option. To find out how, please go to 6 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:42.200 Dogmanencounters dot com Forward slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so 7 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:44.599 much for joining us for another live stream episode of 8 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:49.239 Dogman Encounters Radio. Really appreciate you joining us over the 9 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.359 years I've been doing this over ten years. You wouldn't 10 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.879 believe how many times I've heard people make the comment, 11 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:56.840 you know, I'd love to go out and look for dogmen. 12 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:00.719 Wouldn't that be fun? Wouldn't it be really exciting? Well, 13 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:05.280 talking about it's one thing. Doing it totally different matter. Well, 14 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.640 for tonight's show, I decided to mix things up and 15 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:10.479 do things a little different. Instead of bringing an eye 16 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:13.240 witness on and having them tell us about their encounter, 17 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.840 I've got two dog man researchers on the show tonight 18 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:19.879 who are going to come on and basically flesh out 19 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.039 what it's like to go into the field looking for 20 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:26.360 these things, what kind of plannings involved, what to expect 21 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.759 when you're out there in the field. Experiences they've had 22 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:34.520 both frightening and some that weren't well, without any further ado, 23 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:38.439 let's just bring them in here now. Tonight's first guest 24 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:45.039 is Jessica Jones aka the Cryptid Huntress, Got you in 25 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:50.680 the studio, and our other guest tonight is Drew Ski 26 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:56.400 with Cryptid Warfare. Justin Drew, thanks so much for joining us. 27 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.759 Hey, thanks for having us. I've been looking forward to this. 28 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:01.400 Good to see you guys. 29 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:03.639 Well, I appreciate it. 30 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:07.280 Brother, You're welcome. That goes two ways. It's great to 31 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.080 have you, and of course I really appreciate your time. 32 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:13.360 Jess Both you and Drew are neck deep in the 33 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.840 cryptid field and have been so for a long time. 34 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:17.599 Please tell us how you got here. 35 00:03:19.039 --> 00:03:21.439 Well, I'll tell you. I started off as a bigfoot 36 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.639 field researcher. That's kind of the meat and potatoes of 37 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:28.360 what I do is getting out. I'm on four actually 38 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:31.680 I'm on five different teams now field research teams, and 39 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.159 I've been doing this since twenty eleven. I go out 40 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.680 all over the southeastern region of the United States. We 41 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.719 have several hot spots that we go and research over 42 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.159 and over again. I've also I've even been up to 43 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:47.719 New York I see Long Island. Bigfoot Mike. I've been 44 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.400 the chat tonight, and I've been up to New York 45 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.719 and done some cryptid hunting up there with him as well. 46 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.560 But I pretty much stay around the Southeast, especially down 47 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.280 here with the Cryptid Warfare Fellows with Drewski and that team. 48 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.000 We get out and do a lot of research in 49 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:06.759 the deep woods. But yeah, I just I've been in 50 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.960 it for a while and I never ever thought I'd 51 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.400 be talking publicly about any of this. You know, I 52 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.600 started off with one of my teams. You know, we 53 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.279 kind of I'm not gonna say we all had to 54 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.720 sign NDAs and stuff. That first team I didn't. But 55 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.959 as I progressed and got on more, you know, different 56 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.240 teams and stuff, I just really never even thought I'd 57 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.959 ever talk about it publicly. And but here I am, 58 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:35.199 got a YouTube channel and all that today. But yeah, 59 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:37.279 I just love going out and chasing things in the 60 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:41.240 woods at night. And I know it's it sounds kind 61 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:44.360 of wild, it's not for everybody, but I got great 62 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:48.319 teams and I trust everybody with my life on those teams. 63 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:52.000 And yeah, I just kind of progressed from going from 64 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.959 bigfoot field research to pretty much hunting everything that was 65 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:57.959 out there. It's not that we're I'm out there hunting. 66 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:03.279 I've been investigating, Okay, researching. I'm investigating, you know, with 67 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:05.439 cryptid warfare, we do get out there and kind of 68 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:08.439 not only investigate and do research, but we're on the 69 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:10.800 hunt out there a little bit more than the other teams. 70 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.720 And I'll let Drewskie talk about that tonight for the 71 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:19.639 most part. But yeah, it's it's just a natural progression, 72 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:22.759 like I said, And I got really interested in the 73 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:26.519 dogman phenomenon while I was doing my bigfoot research. We 74 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.160 were having a lot of strange tracks in the field, 75 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.079 wolf like tracks. One of the head of one of 76 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.360 my teams, Bob Wilson, he has passed away, passed away recently, 77 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:42.680 but head of the North Georgia Cryptid Field Researchers. He 78 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:46.040 was actually the regional director, Region five director of the 79 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.800 North American Dogman Project for a long time. And that's 80 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:51.800 how I learned most of what I know about dog 81 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:55.600 Man was through Bob, and we would go to places 82 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:58.199 like Middle Georgia. There's an area that we researched called 83 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.680 the troop Herd Corridor, and not only do they have 84 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.959 a lot of bigfoot activity, down there. A lot of UFOs. 85 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.720 It's well known for mass alien abductions that happened in 86 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.600 that area, but a lot of dogman sightings happened down there, 87 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:16.759 and so that's one of our team's research areas. I 88 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:19.360 was down there, I had to I had to, I 89 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.360 had to get prepared for some dogman action. We started 90 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:25.240 doing our research down there because you know, I'm used 91 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.399 to the Bigfoot, the big foot action, but we ended up, 92 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.439 you know, preparing for for dog ban encounters down there 93 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.720 in that area. Also, you know, I live in the 94 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:40.680 Northwest Georgia area, and it really is wonderful to have 95 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.920 friends who work at the Sheriff's apartment where I live. 96 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:49.240 Because having friends that work at the niel One call 97 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:52.800 center and some of the dees I started getting, you know, 98 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:54.360 I had my ear to the street, so to say, 99 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.560 as a as a field researcher, and people that worked 100 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.160 in those arenas knew that I did cryptid field research, 101 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:02.839 and so when they would get calls in, they would 102 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:07.439 let me know in regards to you know, sightings of 103 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.839 wolf men and things like that. There's a pretty well 104 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.720 known dog man that's been sighted in the northern part 105 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.079 of the County that I lived in up in northwest 106 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.639 Georgia for decades, and they actually call it, I think 107 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:22.800 they call it the North Paulden Werewolf or the North 108 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:27.319 Paulden dog Man, and so I actually gone out to 109 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.399 investigate that before. It's only about I'm going to say 110 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.560 it's about ten miles from the Edawa Indian mount maybe 111 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.839 ten fifteen minutes from the Indian Mounds, and Vic, I 112 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.399 know from all the people that you've had on your shows, 113 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:44.480 there's there's some kind of connection to Indian Mounds, these 114 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:46.680 burial mounds that we have here, especially around here in 115 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.079 the south, and some of the dog man sightings and 116 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:53.279 encounters and waterfalls too. There's a waterfall right there where 117 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.279 these sightings have been. But that's really how I got 118 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.120 into interested in the dogman phenomenon is because we were 119 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.680 getting not only reports of bigfoot but also dog man 120 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:05.600 as well in some of the areas that I research, 121 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:09.319 and of course Bob ahead of my one of my 122 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.399 field teams, he would go out and take reports from 123 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.600 these investigations with the North American dog Man Project in 124 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.560 the area where we live, because he lived not too 125 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.000 far for me, and so he was he was that 126 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:24.759 person that would go take those reports. So that's kind 127 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:26.680 of how I got into it. I've always had my 128 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:28.519 I got my feet wet way back in the day 129 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:33.720 with all this phenomenon, and so here I am today 130 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:38.679 hanging out with Drew Ski and his Scryptive Warfare operators 131 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:43.279 and Survivalist team, and they're real active. We've gone on 132 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.519 several field investigations and it's man, it's wonderful. I love it. 133 00:08:49.320 --> 00:08:51.720 Like I said earlier, it's not for everybody, but but 134 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:55.120 it's definitely for me and for Drusy too. I'm assuming, right, Drew. 135 00:08:57.799 --> 00:08:59.440 Jess, I really don't know how you do it all. 136 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.279 You don't let any grass grownder your feet. I mean 137 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:06.679 you're always out and about, going on research outings and 138 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:12.519 hosting this show, hosting that show, being a guest on podcasts. Yeah, 139 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:14.000 I don't know how you do it. There's not enough 140 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.159 time in one day. 141 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.600 It's because I love what I do. It's not worked. 142 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:20.799 To me. 143 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:23.639 This is fun. It's so much fun. I am so 144 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.879 blessed to be able to do this and to get 145 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:29.120 out and you know, I got to say, like people, 146 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:31.480 I guess people are like, well, why do you even 147 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.080 do this? It's crazy. Why would why would a girl 148 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.080 like you go out and go dog man? Honey? Well, 149 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:40.200 you know what, because I have you have to kind 150 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.480 of have no fear about stuff, and I honestly am 151 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:45.240 and I'm not saying I don't ever get scared. 152 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:46.039 There have. 153 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.559 There have definitely been times where I have I have 154 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.279 been rattled, I guess you could say, but but I 155 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.000 love it and I just want to know more and 156 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:56.840 I want to see a dog Okay, I want to 157 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:58.840 see a dog man. I've had some encounters out there 158 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.720 that appsbsolutely I do believe could have been dog man, 159 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:05.840 But I have not seen a dog man up close, 160 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:10.519 face to face yet. I know from listening to your encounters, Vic, 161 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:13.200 to listen to dog man encounters. It's not something that 162 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:17.559 everybody looks forward to, and it's not something that people like. 163 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:21.919 I know that, But like I said, it's what I 164 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:24.639 do and it's what I love, and I look forward 165 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.360 to it one day to having a up close dog 166 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:27.960 man encounter. 167 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.639 Well, if you've beaten the bushes the way you do, 168 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:32.720 I think it is just a matter of time, and 169 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.200 when you do finally have that experience, I hope it's 170 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.399 a good one and not a bad one, because I 171 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:39.559 can tell you enjoy doing this so much. It really 172 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.120 would be a shame for a bad encounter to frighten 173 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.000 you away from all this, because I can tell you 174 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.360 get so much out of it. You clearly do. 175 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.039 I do, I do, you know, And I love sharing 176 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:54.879 my stories, my encounters with everybody. I don't hold anything 177 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.759 back these days. And when I first started doing encrypted 178 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:00.879 field investigations and research, it wasn't cool back then. It 179 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.120 did to me, it was cool, but to the rest 180 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.879 of the world, I was crazy, and so I kept 181 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:09.440 it quiet. I waited ten years to even speak publicly 182 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.480 at all about any of my field research when it 183 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:14.919 came to this, because back in the day, you know, 184 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.080 back in twenty even twenty eleven, it hadn't been that 185 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:20.039 long ago. Not everybody had, you know, those big foot 186 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.399 stickers on the back of their vehicles and stuff. It 187 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.279 was more hush hush. And I have a background in 188 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:28.039 working with in the government. 189 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:29.200 I worked. 190 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:33.960 I ran a steed agency for almost twenty years, and 191 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.519 so I was not going to be telling all the 192 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:38.919 people I worked with they am out there chasing bigfoot 193 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.799 and hunting dog men when I was when I was 194 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:44.559 going to work and stuff. I just didn't want to. 195 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:46.639 I didn't want people to know because they already thought 196 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:48.559 I was a little a little crazy, a little wild 197 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.480 and crazy since I was going camping so often. 198 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:55.840 Yeah, there's no future in letting that cat out of 199 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:57.960 the bag at work. If you let people know that, 200 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.799 then you might get your walking paper soon. So I 201 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.799 don't blame you for not letting that out. Drew. How 202 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:08.000 about you, how'd you find yourself getting into searching for cryptids? 203 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.000 Yeah? Man, hey, with what's going on? Guys? Vic, that's 204 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.039 once the thanks cutting let me come on as well, 205 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:16.639 and yeah, to answer your question. 206 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:20.120 Hey, not to interrupt you, Drew, but you're a little quiet. 207 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.679 Can you move closer to the michaelphone? 208 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:24.840 Is that better? 209 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:26.840 Yeah, that's a little bit better. 210 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:28.799 How about Neil? 211 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:30.919 Yeah that's better there, Thank you? 212 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:37.399 Okay, cool, okay. Yeah. So yeah, so basically it started, uh, well, 213 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.240 I guess I should say back when I was like 214 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.200 backpacking with my dad. My dad was a big time 215 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.600 bus craft and survivalist. Guys. He's definitely a mountain man. 216 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:52.000 He's he's he's pushing like late sixties and he and 217 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:53.960 he still goes out in the mountains by himself, which 218 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.159 I always wanted against him to do it, but you know, 219 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:57.720 he don't care. He said, he rather die in the 220 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:00.600 mountains than anywhere else, so he loves it. But anyways, Yeah, 221 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.159 he's the one who taught me a lot of like backpacking, 222 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.120 Bushcraft's revival stuff, all that stuff. So yeah, so whenever 223 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:10.080 him and I would go out, basically when I was 224 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:13.000 in high school, he'd called me up and he'd be like, hey, brother, 225 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.360 I'm going to pick you up at this time. Just 226 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.960 make sure that your bag's ready. So so whenever he 227 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.879 picked me up, we'd literally just packed what we put 228 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.120 into backpack and we'd just go hiking in the mountains 229 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:27.000 in Colorado. So and then at the same time we 230 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:30.200 would actually figure out on you would find out quick 231 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.799 on like what you needed and what you don't need, 232 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.440 and what's extra weight and what's not. So but at 233 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.039 the same time we were out there, he was just 234 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.120 kind of like getting me prepared, like, hey, you know, 235 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.879 there's a lot more things out here, you know, you know, 236 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:47.279 they're just animals, so you know, according to the Native 237 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.200 Americans and stuff like that. So he I don't know 238 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.120 if he had a sighting or what, but he knew 239 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.440 that there were things out there. So he always wanted me, Hey, 240 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:57.799 when you're out here, respect the land. If you if 241 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.000 you have a gut feeling that something's bad, turn around, 242 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:02.480 walk away. If you hear things, you know that are 243 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:04.279 out of the ordinary, you know, just turn around and 244 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.639 just walk away. So you know, but he always, but 245 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:08.879 he based He's the one who basically climbed like that 246 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:12.559 seat in my head. And then uh, and then after that, 247 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.919 it really didn't take full effect. It really didn't take 248 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:17.120 full effect on me until I was in law enforcement. 249 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.679 I worked for the State of Colorado, and basically I 250 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.279 was a part as part of this tack team and 251 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:29.080 uh we had to go. We had to go help 252 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.200 this escape team for the State of Colorado find this 253 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.519 escape convict. So so, me and a couple other guys 254 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:38.399 were part of this tap team, which is a swat 255 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:43.320 team and a couple of little alphabet agencies and uh, anyways, 256 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:45.639 so we're out there in the mountains of Colorado looking 257 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:49.480 for this guy. And uh so, basically in a nutshell, 258 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:52.159 we were actually with this tracking team gaining ground on 259 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.240 this on this on this guy who was wanted and 260 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:58.799 as we're walking up this mountain. We actually had a 261 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:02.000 bunch of different teams drop off on different parts of 262 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:05.679 the mountain. We're trying to we're basically we're basically trying 263 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.399 to corner this guy in, and it's it's basically almost 264 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.159 like dusk going into nighttime. And as we're walking up 265 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:16.639 this mountain, uh, you know, me and a couple of 266 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.679 guys on the short team, we're hearing We're hearing things 267 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:24.679 walking like paralleling us that were good like fifty to 268 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:29.559 like one hundred yards out, but we couldn't see anything, 269 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:33.000 but we just hear it. And then I got on 270 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:34.840 my comms and radio and was standing on the guys 271 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:37.840 that were like, hey, are you guys hearing anything, when 272 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:39.759 they're like Roger that you know we're here. I'm hearing 273 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:41.360 something on my right, and I'm like, yeah, man, I'm 274 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:45.480 hearing something on my left. So we really didn't think 275 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:47.519 anything of it, but we're actually just trying to pay 276 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.120 attention to it. At the same time, we were trying 277 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.960 to find this sed convict. So anyways, so one of 278 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.480 the guys who was running point said hey, on three, 279 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.120 we're going to stop real quick. One, two, three, We 280 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.960 all stopped, and then we heard this thing on my 281 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:05.720 left and then my partner had this thing on his right. 282 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:09.600 They took two extra steps, and we're like, this is weird, 283 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:11.919 but we're trying to bring it up on our nods, 284 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.559 which is a night vision goggles and flare camera and 285 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:17.639 all that, and nothing. We can't we can we can't 286 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:19.679 see anything, but we can hear something, but we can't 287 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:23.159 see it. So I knew there was some spooky stuff 288 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.159 out there, but like I said, we really we really 289 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:27.879 try not to pay attention to it because we actually 290 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:32.720 hadn't objective's to find this guy. So to speed it up, 291 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.519 we actually find this guy, we'll bring him down the mountain. 292 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:39.039 We had him over to the FEDS, and then we 293 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:44.320 actually had a signed basically a basically got a sound 294 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:48.559 like and our reports from who what, when, why, where? 295 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.960 Right on everything we did from start defensive. So I 296 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:54.240 put in the report. At the same time we're tracking 297 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.120 this guy, we were hearing noises to our left and 298 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.679 to our right. And then I basically kicked that report 299 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.080 out and then my cat and came back about half 300 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.240 an hour later. He's like, hey, you need to change this, 301 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.359 You need to change that, And I was like okay, 302 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.000 and He's like, just don't get into greedy, you need 303 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.079 to greedy details. Just take that out, all right, Roger. 304 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.400 That So that kind of sparked my interests on Okay, 305 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:17.400 it kind of brought me in the whole Bigfoot thing, like, 306 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:20.920 so there's something out there for sure. And then after 307 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.599 that I talked to my teammates about it, and one 308 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.240 of them was gung ho about it. He's like, yeah, man, 309 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:28.440 I do believe there are things out there in the 310 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:31.039 mountains that we have no idea what's out there. And 311 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:33.319 a lot of the other guys were like, ah, you're crazy. 312 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:35.839 So I was actually in the same boat Jessica was in. 313 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.640 I kind of got into this very underground and I 314 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.599 really didn't let hardly anybody know about it except for 315 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:46.240 my wife and maybe one or two to three people. 316 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:49.920 That was it. So I started going out on backpacking 317 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:52.079 trips and stuff on the weekends with me and like 318 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:54.839 two other guys, and we would just go out just 319 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.880 to see, you know, if we would collect any evidence 320 00:17:57.960 --> 00:17:59.960 or just to see if we see anything or Avenue Streme. 321 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:05.880 But really wasn't no fucking Colorado. But then after twenty fourteen, 322 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:09.039 I moved over here to Tennessee. And then one of 323 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:11.920 the guys out in my church. He was ahead of 324 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.279 a security team, and my wife told him a little 325 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.880 bit about me, and about like six months later of 326 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.160 us living here, I seen him with the bigfoot hat 327 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:24.039 on and I kind of made a comment. I was like, hey, man, 328 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.240 so I like that hat. Man, so do you believe 329 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.359 or do you like it? Just because it's starting to 330 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:33.200 become like a pop culture thing. And he pulls me aside. 331 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:38.119 He's like, are you like, do you like legit believe 332 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:41.839 in these things? Or no? I was and I told him, well, 333 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.799 that's the reason why I'm asking you in and he's like, yeah, 334 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:47.599 well I go out and research for these things. I 335 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:51.880 was like, awesome, I'd like to do that too. When 336 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:54.240 could we do it? And he's like, man, I got 337 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:57.559 a sponsored big foot hunt coming up if you want 338 00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:59.759 to go. I'm like, hey, yeah, man, let's do it. 339 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.400 So that kind of sped up that thing, and in 340 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.440 twenty fifteen, I just kind of took the ground running 341 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.519 here in Tennessee, I should say, so to where we're 342 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:11.680 at now. So I just kind of gathered all the 343 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.440 guys on my team. Every year, I just kind of 344 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:16.519 vet guys. And you know, you know, because a lot 345 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:18.079 of guys you got in my team or ex military, 346 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.440 ex law enforcement, xpounding under you know, survivalist stuff like that. 347 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:25.359 So we're all the same mindset, you know, and you know, 348 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:27.240 we just want to go out there and research and 349 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:31.079 you know, to basically to basically prove to the world 350 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:33.000 that a lot of these people who have encounters that 351 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.440 they're not crazy there are they are real, they are legit, 352 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.880 and that way, you know, we can have some closure 353 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:43.160 for all the nasayers, I should say. So other than that, 354 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:44.559 I want to give a shout out to all the 355 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.720 guys on my team real Quick co Dunk, t b X, 356 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:55.279 Juice and and wem In And then also I guess 357 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.519 Amber wanted to give her a shout out, So hey, 358 00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.839 what's up Amber? And yeah, man, that's basically how I 359 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:02.880 got into it here in Tennessee. So I just went 360 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:04.240 from there at the Grandma. 361 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:08.680 Yeah, i'd say you did. Drew. You describe yourself as 362 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:11.519 being a warrior of the Almighty, his devotion to Christ 363 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:14.480 as some wavering How'd you come to have such a 364 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:15.640 strong sense of faith? 365 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:21.880 Well, I should say yes, I'll just put it in 366 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.519 a nutshell my stepdad's the one who introduced me and 367 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:29.480 my mom to Christ. So yeah, so in a nutshell, like, 368 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:31.960 my dad divorced my mom when I was three, and 369 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:33.559 my mom went on the street for a little while, 370 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:35.519 and then we actually got a hold of my aunt 371 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:38.000 and I was started living with her, and my mom 372 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.400 married this guy when I was eight. He introduced us 373 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:43.440 to Christ. And yeah, after that, I just I was 374 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:46.319 just I was just a fame for the Bible. Man, 375 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.839 I just I just read that thing like like nothing, 376 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:50.480 you know. And not only that, you know, like not 377 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:53.839 having like a father figure for a while. I really 378 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:58.559 I really got it when it came to Jesus, you know, 379 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:01.640 not having a physical father, and not only that house 380 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:03.119 as in scripture. You know, if you don't have a 381 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.480 father or a mother, you know, you actually have God, 382 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.799 you know, who actually sits close to you, you know, more 383 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.119 than a friend. So I really definitely held onto that, 384 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:13.640 and not only that, just seeing things in my life, 385 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:16.119 like looking back at it, you know, I can really 386 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.400 tell God was there in a in a big way. 387 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.799 And not only that, I I look at him as 388 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:25.400 my lord and savior, but I also look at him 389 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:28.480 as a father as well as a dad. So you know, 390 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.279 I just I don't know, it's just just just that thing, man. 391 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.440 I just I definitely just definitely just want to have 392 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:35.960 a relationship with them every day. Man. So that's that's 393 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.519 what I strived to do. And not only that, too, 394 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:43.000 really brought brought open in the Bible for me. Wasn't 395 00:21:44.839 --> 00:21:46.880 was in Genesis six and then Psalms that he two, 396 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:50.839 you know, the phone a just came down and basically 397 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:53.720 in a nutshell, how they Florida came to with women, 398 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:56.799 how they did sin against the plants and the animals, 399 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:01.759 and also too an Revelation six eight. It really popped 400 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:04.319 out to me, how how the third of mankind are 401 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:06.160