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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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much for joining us for another live stream episode of

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Dogman Encounters Radio. Really appreciate you joining us over the

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years I've been doing this over ten years. You wouldn't

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believe how many times I've heard people make the comment,

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you know, I'd love to go out and look for dogmen.

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Wouldn't that be fun? Wouldn't it be really exciting? Well,

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talking about it's one thing. Doing it totally different matter. Well,

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for tonight's show, I decided to mix things up and

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do things a little different. Instead of bringing an eye

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witness on and having them tell us about their encounter,

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I've got two dog man researchers on the show tonight

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who are going to come on and basically flesh out

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what it's like to go into the field looking for

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these things, what kind of plannings involved, what to expect

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when you're out there in the field. Experiences they've had

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both frightening and some that weren't well, without any further ado,

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let's just bring them in here now. Tonight's first guest

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is Jessica Jones aka the Cryptid Huntress, Got you in

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the studio, and our other guest tonight is Drew Ski

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with Cryptid Warfare. Justin Drew, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having us. I've been looking forward to this.

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Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Brother, You're welcome. That goes two ways. It's great to

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have you, and of course I really appreciate your time.

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Jess Both you and Drew are neck deep in the

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cryptid field and have been so for a long time.

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Please tell us how you got here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you. I started off as a bigfoot

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field researcher. That's kind of the meat and potatoes of

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what I do is getting out. I'm on four actually

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I'm on five different teams now field research teams, and

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I've been doing this since twenty eleven. I go out

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all over the southeastern region of the United States. We

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have several hot spots that we go and research over

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and over again. I've also I've even been up to

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New York I see Long Island. Bigfoot Mike. I've been

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the chat tonight, and I've been up to New York

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and done some cryptid hunting up there with him as well.

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But I pretty much stay around the Southeast, especially down

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here with the Cryptid Warfare Fellows with Drewski and that team.

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We get out and do a lot of research in

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the deep woods. But yeah, I just I've been in

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it for a while and I never ever thought I'd

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be talking publicly about any of this. You know, I

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started off with one of my teams. You know, we

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kind of I'm not gonna say we all had to

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sign NDAs and stuff. That first team I didn't. But

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as I progressed and got on more, you know, different

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teams and stuff, I just really never even thought I'd

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ever talk about it publicly. And but here I am,

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got a YouTube channel and all that today. But yeah,

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I just love going out and chasing things in the

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woods at night. And I know it's it sounds kind

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of wild, it's not for everybody, but I got great

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teams and I trust everybody with my life on those teams.

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And yeah, I just kind of progressed from going from

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bigfoot field research to pretty much hunting everything that was

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out there. It's not that we're I'm out there hunting.

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I've been investigating, Okay, researching. I'm investigating, you know, with

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cryptid warfare, we do get out there and kind of

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not only investigate and do research, but we're on the

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hunt out there a little bit more than the other teams.

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And I'll let Drewskie talk about that tonight for the

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most part. But yeah, it's it's just a natural progression,

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like I said, And I got really interested in the

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dogman phenomenon while I was doing my bigfoot research. We

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were having a lot of strange tracks in the field,

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wolf like tracks. One of the head of one of

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my teams, Bob Wilson, he has passed away, passed away recently,

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but head of the North Georgia Cryptid Field Researchers. He

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was actually the regional director, Region five director of the

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North American Dogman Project for a long time. And that's

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how I learned most of what I know about dog

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like Middle Georgia. There's an area that we researched called

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the troop Herd Corridor, and not only do they have

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a lot of bigfoot activity, down there. A lot of UFOs.

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that area, but a lot of dogman sightings happened down there,

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and so that's one of our team's research areas. I

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was down there, I had to I had to, I

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had to get prepared for some dogman action. We started

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doing our research down there because you know, I'm used

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to the Bigfoot, the big foot action, but we ended up,

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you know, preparing for for dog ban encounters down there

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in that area. Also, you know, I live in the

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Northwest Georgia area, and it really is wonderful to have

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friends who work at the Sheriff's apartment where I live.

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center and some of the dees I started getting, you know,

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as a as a field researcher, and people that worked

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in those arenas knew that I did cryptid field research,

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and so when they would get calls in, they would

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let me know in regards to you know, sightings of

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wolf men and things like that. There's a pretty well

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known dog man that's been sighted in the northern part

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of the County that I lived in up in northwest

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Georgia for decades, and they actually call it, I think

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they call it the North Paulden Werewolf or the North

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Paulden dog Man, and so I actually gone out to

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investigate that before. It's only about I'm going to say

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it's about ten miles from the Edawa Indian mount maybe

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ten fifteen minutes from the Indian Mounds, and Vic, I

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know from all the people that you've had on your shows,

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there's there's some kind of connection to Indian Mounds, these

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burial mounds that we have here, especially around here in

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the south, and some of the dog man sightings and

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encounters and waterfalls too. There's a waterfall right there where

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these sightings have been. But that's really how I got

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into interested in the dogman phenomenon is because we were

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getting not only reports of bigfoot but also dog man

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as well in some of the areas that I research,

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and of course Bob ahead of my one of my

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field teams, he would go out and take reports from

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these investigations with the North American dog Man Project in

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the area where we live, because he lived not too

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far for me, and so he was he was that

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person that would go take those reports. So that's kind

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of how I got into it. I've always had my

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I got my feet wet way back in the day

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with all this phenomenon, and so here I am today

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hanging out with Drew Ski and his Scryptive Warfare operators

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and Survivalist team, and they're real active. We've gone on

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several field investigations and it's man, it's wonderful. I love it.

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Like I said earlier, it's not for everybody, but but

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it's definitely for me and for Drusy too. I'm assuming, right, Drew.

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Speaker 1: Jess, I really don't know how you do it all.

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You don't let any grass grownder your feet. I mean

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you're always out and about, going on research outings and

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hosting this show, hosting that show, being a guest on podcasts. Yeah,

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I don't know how you do it. There's not enough

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time in one day.

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Speaker 3: It's because I love what I do. It's not worked.

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Speaker 4: To me.

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Speaker 3: This is fun. It's so much fun. I am so

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blessed to be able to do this and to get

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out and you know, I got to say, like people,

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I guess people are like, well, why do you even

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do this? It's crazy. Why would why would a girl

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like you go out and go dog man? Honey? Well,

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you know what, because I have you have to kind

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of have no fear about stuff, and I honestly am

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and I'm not saying I don't ever get scared.

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Speaker 4: There have.

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Speaker 3: There have definitely been times where I have I have

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been rattled, I guess you could say, but but I

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love it and I just want to know more and

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I want to see a dog Okay, I want to

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see a dog man. I've had some encounters out there

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that appsbsolutely I do believe could have been dog man,

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face to face yet. I know from listening to your encounters, Vic,

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to listen to dog man encounters. It's not something that

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everybody looks forward to, and it's not something that people like.

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I know that, But like I said, it's what I

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do and it's what I love, and I look forward

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to it one day to having a up close dog

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man encounter.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you've beaten the bushes the way you do,

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I think it is just a matter of time, and

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when you do finally have that experience, I hope it's

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a good one and not a bad one, because I

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can tell you enjoy doing this so much. It really

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would be a shame for a bad encounter to frighten

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you away from all this, because I can tell you

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get so much out of it. You clearly do.

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Speaker 3: I do, I do, you know, And I love sharing

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my stories, my encounters with everybody. I don't hold anything

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back these days. And when I first started doing encrypted

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field investigations and research, it wasn't cool back then. It

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did to me, it was cool, but to the rest

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of the world, I was crazy, and so I kept

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it quiet. I waited ten years to even speak publicly

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at all about any of my field research when it

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came to this, because back in the day, you know,

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back in twenty even twenty eleven, it hadn't been that

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long ago. Not everybody had, you know, those big foot

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stickers on the back of their vehicles and stuff. It

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was more hush hush. And I have a background in

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working with in the government.

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Speaker 3: I ran a steed agency for almost twenty years, and

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so I was not going to be telling all the

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people I worked with they am out there chasing bigfoot

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and hunting dog men when I was when I was

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going to work and stuff. I just didn't want to.

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I didn't want people to know because they already thought

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I was a little a little crazy, a little wild

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and crazy since I was going camping so often.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no future in letting that cat out of

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the bag at work. If you let people know that,

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then you might get your walking paper soon. So I

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don't blame you for not letting that out. Drew. How

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about you, how'd you find yourself getting into searching for cryptids?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, hey, with what's going on? Guys? Vic, that's

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once the thanks cutting let me come on as well,

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and yeah, to answer your question.

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Speaker 1: Hey, not to interrupt you, Drew, but you're a little quiet.

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Can you move closer to the michaelphone?

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Speaker 4: Is that better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's better there, Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool, okay. Yeah. So yeah, so basically it started, uh, well,

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I guess I should say back when I was like

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backpacking with my dad. My dad was a big time

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bus craft and survivalist. Guys. He's definitely a mountain man.

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He's he's he's pushing like late sixties and he and

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he still goes out in the mountains by himself, which

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I always wanted against him to do it, but you know,

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he don't care. He said, he rather die in the

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mountains than anywhere else, so he loves it. But anyways, Yeah,

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he's the one who taught me a lot of like backpacking,

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Bushcraft's revival stuff, all that stuff. So yeah, so whenever

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him and I would go out, basically when I was

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in high school, he'd called me up and he'd be like, hey, brother,

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I'm going to pick you up at this time. Just

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make sure that your bag's ready. So so whenever he

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picked me up, we'd literally just packed what we put

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in Colorado. So and then at the same time we

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would actually figure out on you would find out quick

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and what's extra weight and what's not. So but at

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the same time we were out there, he was just

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kind of like getting me prepared, like, hey, you know,

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there's a lot more things out here, you know, you know,

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they're just animals, so you know, according to the Native

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Americans and stuff like that. So he I don't know

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if he had a sighting or what, but he knew

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that there were things out there. So he always wanted me, Hey,

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when you're out here, respect the land. If you if

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you have a gut feeling that something's bad, turn around,

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walk away. If you hear things, you know that are

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out of the ordinary, you know, just turn around and

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just walk away. So you know, but he always, but

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he based He's the one who basically climbed like that

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seat in my head. And then uh, and then after that,

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it really didn't take full effect. It really didn't take

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full effect on me until I was in law enforcement.

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I worked for the State of Colorado, and basically I

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was a part as part of this tack team and

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uh we had to go. We had to go help

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this escape team for the State of Colorado find this

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escape convict. So so, me and a couple other guys

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were part of this tap team, which is a swat

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team and a couple of little alphabet agencies and uh, anyways,

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so we're out there in the mountains of Colorado looking

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for this guy. And uh so, basically in a nutshell,

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we were actually with this tracking team gaining ground on

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this on this on this guy who was wanted and

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as we're walking up this mountain. We actually had a

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bunch of different teams drop off on different parts of

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the mountain. We're trying to we're basically we're basically trying

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to corner this guy in, and it's it's basically almost

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like dusk going into nighttime. And as we're walking up

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this mountain, uh, you know, me and a couple of

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guys on the short team, we're hearing We're hearing things

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walking like paralleling us that were good like fifty to

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like one hundred yards out, but we couldn't see anything,

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but we just hear it. And then I got on

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my comms and radio and was standing on the guys

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that were like, hey, are you guys hearing anything, when

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they're like Roger that you know we're here. I'm hearing

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something on my right, and I'm like, yeah, man, I'm

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hearing something on my left. So we really didn't think

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anything of it, but we're actually just trying to pay

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attention to it. At the same time, we were trying

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to find this sed convict. So anyways, so one of

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the guys who was running point said hey, on three,

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we're going to stop real quick. One, two, three, We

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all stopped, and then we heard this thing on my

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left and then my partner had this thing on his right.

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They took two extra steps, and we're like, this is weird,

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but we're trying to bring it up on our nods,

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which is a night vision goggles and flare camera and

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all that, and nothing. We can't we can we can't

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see anything, but we can hear something, but we can't

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see it. So I knew there was some spooky stuff

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out there, but like I said, we really we really

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try not to pay attention to it because we actually

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hadn't objective's to find this guy. So to speed it up,

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we actually find this guy, we'll bring him down the mountain.

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We had him over to the FEDS, and then we

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actually had a signed basically a basically got a sound

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like and our reports from who what, when, why, where?

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Right on everything we did from start defensive. So I

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put in the report. At the same time we're tracking

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this guy, we were hearing noises to our left and

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to our right. And then I basically kicked that report

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out and then my cat and came back about half

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an hour later. He's like, hey, you need to change this,

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You need to change that, And I was like okay,

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and He's like, just don't get into greedy, you need

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to greedy details. Just take that out, all right, Roger.

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That So that kind of sparked my interests on Okay,

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it kind of brought me in the whole Bigfoot thing, like,

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so there's something out there for sure. And then after

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that I talked to my teammates about it, and one

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of them was gung ho about it. He's like, yeah, man,

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I do believe there are things out there in the

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mountains that we have no idea what's out there. And

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a lot of the other guys were like, ah, you're crazy.

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So I was actually in the same boat Jessica was in.

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I kind of got into this very underground and I

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really didn't let hardly anybody know about it except for

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my wife and maybe one or two to three people.

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That was it. So I started going out on backpacking

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trips and stuff on the weekends with me and like

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two other guys, and we would just go out just

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to see, you know, if we would collect any evidence

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or just to see if we see anything or Avenue Streme.

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But really wasn't no fucking Colorado. But then after twenty fourteen,

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I moved over here to Tennessee. And then one of

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the guys out in my church. He was ahead of

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a security team, and my wife told him a little

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bit about me, and about like six months later of

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us living here, I seen him with the bigfoot hat

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on and I kind of made a comment. I was like, hey, man,

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so I like that hat. Man, so do you believe

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or do you like it? Just because it's starting to

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become like a pop culture thing. And he pulls me aside.

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He's like, are you like, do you like legit believe

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in these things? Or no? I was and I told him, well,

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that's the reason why I'm asking you in and he's like, yeah,

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well I go out and research for these things. I

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was like, awesome, I'd like to do that too. When

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could we do it? And he's like, man, I got

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a sponsored big foot hunt coming up if you want

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to go. I'm like, hey, yeah, man, let's do it.

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So that kind of sped up that thing, and in

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twenty fifteen, I just kind of took the ground running

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here in Tennessee, I should say, so to where we're

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at now. So I just kind of gathered all the

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guys on my team. Every year, I just kind of

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vet guys. And you know, you know, because a lot

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of guys you got in my team or ex military,

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ex law enforcement, xpounding under you know, survivalist stuff like that.

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So we're all the same mindset, you know, and you know,

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we just want to go out there and research and

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you know, to basically to basically prove to the world

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that a lot of these people who have encounters that

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they're not crazy there are they are real, they are legit,

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and that way, you know, we can have some closure

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for all the nasayers, I should say. So other than that,

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I want to give a shout out to all the

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guys on my team real Quick co Dunk, t b X,

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Juice and and wem In And then also I guess

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Amber wanted to give her a shout out, So hey,

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what's up Amber? And yeah, man, that's basically how I

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got into it here in Tennessee. So I just went

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from there at the Grandma.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd say you did. Drew. You describe yourself as

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being a warrior of the Almighty, his devotion to Christ

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as some wavering How'd you come to have such a

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strong sense of faith?

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Speaker 4: Well, I should say yes, I'll just put it in

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a nutshell my stepdad's the one who introduced me and

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my mom to Christ. So yeah, so in a nutshell, like,

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my dad divorced my mom when I was three, and

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my mom went on the street for a little while,

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and then we actually got a hold of my aunt

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and I was started living with her, and my mom

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married this guy when I was eight. He introduced us

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to Christ. And yeah, after that, I just I was

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just I was just a fame for the Bible. Man,

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I just I just read that thing like like nothing,

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you know. And not only that, you know, like not

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having like a father figure for a while. I really

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I really got it when it came to Jesus, you know,

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not having a physical father, and not only that house

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as in scripture. You know, if you don't have a

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father or a mother, you know, you actually have God,

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you know, who actually sits close to you, you know, more

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than a friend. So I really definitely held onto that,

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and not only that, just seeing things in my life,

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like looking back at it, you know, I can really

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tell God was there in a in a big way.

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And not only that, I I look at him as

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my lord and savior, but I also look at him

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as a father as well as a dad. So you know,

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I just I don't know, it's just just just that thing, man.

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I just I definitely just definitely just want to have

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a relationship with them every day. Man. So that's that's

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what I strived to do. And not only that, too,

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really brought brought open in the Bible for me. Wasn't

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was in Genesis six and then Psalms that he two,

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you know, the phone a just came down and basically

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in a nutshell, how they Florida came to with women,

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how they did sin against the plants and the animals,

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and also too an Revelation six eight. It really popped

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out to me, how how the third of mankind are

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going to be devoured by the beasts of the earth.

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So they're just like, what the just yeah, So anyways, yeah,

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that's all I got. I'm just going on a tangent.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, No, that's all right. Well it goes without saying

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I love the way you think. Do you think there's

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an element of spiritual warfare going on and that explains

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why cryptids are here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I do, one hundred percent. It's that's basically how

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I told Jessica one time. I think cryptids are in

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three categories right to me, they're kind of like now,

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you know, like person's place or things. So I do

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believe that there's a spiritual side of it. I do

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believe there's a physical side of it. And I do

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believe that's there's a governmental side of it. And you know,

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and there's there's been a lot of cases where it

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comes to UFOs, big foots, dog man, how people use

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in the name of Jesus to condemn these things, and

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a lot of them have stopped, have stopped them in

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their tracks and they've walked away. So you know, I've

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I've noticed, you know, there's a your power in the

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name of Jesus. And yeah, and not only that, just

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doing just basically doing just that, a lot of researching

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on part of my language on how to kill these

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things if the time came to it, if you're being

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threatened with your life or or you're trying to protect

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your family. There's some elements of spirituality on when it

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comes to deal with these things.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well a lot of people talk about that.

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Some people swear up and down that they have to

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be demonic entities straight from Hell, and that's how they

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do so many of the things. They do, and I

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can't argue with that. Other people have their opinions on

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what these things are, so you have the opinions run

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the gamut. But it really is awfully hard to explain

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the way all these things they do by just saying

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that they are flesh and blood creatures out there trying

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to make a living. I've got to give you that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Jess.

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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned a bit ago, you have a team

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of researchers that you put together who help you go

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out and research cryptids. Me if you decided to put

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that team together instead of going it alone.

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually joined. I joined some of those teams. Okay,

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so I'm I'm not actually the organizer of those teams.

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Like I said, I'm on, I'm going to say five now,

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five five research teams. I didn't go. I didn't start

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off looking for you know, bigfoot and cryptis and dog

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men on my own. I was invited to go on

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to expedition for the very first time, just because out

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of my curiosity, I talked to a group of some

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big foot field researchers out of North Georgia. They invited

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me out and so I took the opportunity listen I

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never turned out an opportunity to do something really crazy. Okay,

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So that's kind of that's kind of how it all

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started was I I wanted to have an experience. I

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wanted to see a bigfoot and and I thought, well,

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what better way than to go into the woods with

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a bunch of strange dudes by myself and just go

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just you know, let's let's just go see what happens.

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And and so that's what I did. And I'm I

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had so much crazy stuff that happened during that expedition

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as far as cryptids go, that I got. I got

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sucked into it. I literally got sucked into it. I

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couldn't I couldn't walk away from it after seeing the

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things that I saw and experiencing the things that I experienced.

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So and it's it's interesting because a lot of those teams,

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like three of those teams actually are kind of rollovers

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of you know where it's kind of the same people

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and a couple of those teams, but it's just in

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different regions. Like one of my teams, like ERG is

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kind of based in North Georgia ASOG and Nominalist Studies

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and Observation Group. They're kind of based more out of

473
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,519
kind of like Alabama and West Georgia. North Georgia Cryptid

474
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:54,559
Researchers is also kind of in Northwest Georgia Seekers now

475
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,559
is kind of what North Georgia Cryptid Researchers used to be.

476
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,960
That's our new group. That's kind of the true Heard

477
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,559
Corridor area down in Middle Georgia. And now I've got

478
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,400
Cryptid Warfare Operators and they're based out of Tennessee. But

479
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:10,920
we pretty much have done investigations all over from you know,

480
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:17,039
Alabama to Tennessee in North Georgia actually recently, so you know,

481
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,079
I'm I'm I'm pretty particular about who I go out

482
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,400
in the woods with and who I do research with

483
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:27,079
because it is it's well, first of all, it's dangerous,

484
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,480
and I have pretty particular because you know, it's really

485
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,640
important for everybody to have an open mind about what

486
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,960
goes on out there, because you know, you go out there,

487
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:39,279
you might want to go look for Bigfoot and do

488
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:42,119
some research on that, but chances are you're going to

489
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,720
run into other things. And that includes dog men, that

490
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:50,599
includes even ets, portals, you name it. My team has

491
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,960
encountered a lot of strange things, a lot of a

492
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,480
lot of stuff that we weren't expecting, let's just say,

493
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,839
out there. So I think it's important I never ever

494
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:04,880
go out in the woods by myself. I don't recommend that.

495
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,400
I know there are people who go and research alone,

496
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,119
and that's okay to each his own. But I'm real

497
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,599
big on this missing four one one phenomenon. Okay, all

498
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,319
these missing people at our national parks, and of course

499
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,039
we do a lot of our research. Most of my

500
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:22,400
research is done at national and state parks across the

501
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,480
South where there are clusters of missing people. So I

502
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,359
don't do it on my own. You know, here's another

503
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,200
little aspect too. I'm a mom and I have a kid,

504
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,400
and I don't take him to these dangerous places. He

505
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,079
does not go, you know, researching with me with my teams.

506
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,519
But if we go camping, you know, if it's something

507
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:46,720
that's just kind of fun and it's safer to bring him,

508
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:49,119
I do take him out there. Of Course, we've got

509
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,559
to raise up the next generation of cryptid field researchers somehow,

510
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,839
so he's out there doing that. But I'm real particular

511
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,759
about it about taking in places because it can be

512
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,279
very dangerous out there, and safety is first and you know,

513
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:06,480
you turn your back for one second, person behind, he's

514
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:11,279
gone forever. Okay, So so yeah, don't to the audience,

515
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,440
everybody who's listening, please don't go out in the woods

516
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,039
by yourself, unless, especially unless you tell somebody where you're going.

517
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,079
Have a GPS, you know, spot device, just let somebody

518
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,599
know where you're going. Don't go alone.

519
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always really good advice. Jess. You do tons

520
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,200
of field research and don't seem to be too afraid

521
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,160
of going places that a lot of researchers just wouldn't go,

522
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,599
or at least would be really reluctant to go. Have

523
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,880
you ever come to regret that?

524
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: I have never regretted it.

525
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: No, not once.

526
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,839
Speaker 3: I can't think of a single time I've regretted it.

527
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,720
I go out there with like I said, you know,

528
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,279
I've got my teams and I trust my life with

529
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:55,759
everyone out there like I would. I would lay my

530
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,319
life down for every single person on every one of

531
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:00,279
my teams that I'm on, and they would do the

532
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,640
same for me, and I know they would. So no,

533
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,799
I've never regretted it. Actually, the scarier the better, in

534
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:11,759
my book, I know it sounds crazy, but I do

535
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,640
this for the purpose of the experience of it and

536
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,880
to to I want to I want to see all

537
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,759
that life has to offer and all the cryptids that

538
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,519
are out there, and and you know, and my teams

539
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:28,720
actually take a really interesting approach to the research. And

540
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,920
that's why I wanted to go out there with that

541
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,279
first team that I ever went out with, Enigma Research Group.

542
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:39,240
Those gentlemen had had already established a relationship and established

543
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:44,359
that cryptids did inhabit this area that they researched. So

544
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,599
it went from they had already gone past that level

545
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,079
of like, oh, let's see improve and get the castings,

546
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,359
you know, the footprint cast and you know, the evidence,

547
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,359
the hair evidence, all that stuff. I mean, the team

548
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,480
was already full of you know, former you know, military

549
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:05,279
guys and also wildlife biologists. I mean, you name it,

550
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:08,480
I mean, nuclear physicists or on my team, we have

551
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,200
we have such a wide variety of people on that team.

552
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,279
But they had already established that cryptids inhabited this area.

553
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,000
They had moved on from that aspect to well, now

554
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:25,880
we're trying to communicate with them, Okay, so we know

555
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,559
they're there, We've established there there, We've been going there

556
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:32,039
for decades now we're going to start communicating with them.

557
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,440
And they were focusing on like a mind, body spirit

558
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,039
connection to cryptids, which was mind blowing to me because

559
00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:41,640
you know, you mentioned the spiritual warfare aspect of it,

560
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:47,480
and there is something. There's more to these cryptids, dog men, bigfoot,

561
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,640
whatever's out there, there's more to it than just being

562
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,480
flesh and bone, and there's a spiritual aspect to it.

563
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:58,599
There's a and I do believe like through all my

564
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,279
experience of encountering cryptids out there, there's different types. It's

565
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,559
just like humans. Okay, Like there's some let's just say,

566
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480
let's say bigfoot because that's my specialty, right. There's some

567
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,640
that are just constantly out there looking for food and

568
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,359
they're animalistic. There's some that are very like telepathic and

569
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,480
we'll communicate with humans, okay, and just a little more

570
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,799
advanced or a lot more advanced than some, just like

571
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,519
just like humans. I hate to say that. I'm not

572
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:31,480
trying to diss on humans, you know, but some people

573
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:35,039
are a little more advanced than others. Okay, I'm just

574
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:38,440
saying and I mean that in the sweetest, nicest way,

575
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,240
I promise, but it's just the truth. And I mean,

576
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:43,960
you know, it's just like Lord, there are humans that

577
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000
are loving and gentle, and then there's humans that will

578
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:51,759
eat you just like we're cryptids. So that is that's

579
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:58,680
been my experience. But yeah, it's it's interesting to say

580
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,960
the least. But yeah, did I hope they answered your question?

581
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,079
Speaker 1: That did Yeah, definitely never a dull moment. Now when

582
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,440
you do what you do and Drew as well, Drew,

583
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640
what would you say has been the most intense experience

584
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,279
that you've had in the field And did it almost

585
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:16,680
cause you to hang it all up?

586
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we actually had a certain incident over in Mountain City, Tennessee.

587
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,480
This was like two years ago. This is when I

588
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:32,200
was starting to build up basically been all starting to

589
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,720
build up with the guys in my team. And yeah,

590
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:38,319
so so one of the guys on my team, we

591
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,160
man he he was a big proponent on Reddit and

592
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,559
Facebook and stuff like that. So we would because right now,

593
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,839
this organization I got CW operations as well. They try

594
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,759
to help people that are having problems right with these things.

595
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,880
So we're trying to try to give him some advice,

596
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,559
you know, basically trying to act like consultants stuff like that.

597
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,720
And if we need be you know where just to

598
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:04,960
protect these guys, you know, if it comes to prayer,

599
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,559
spiritual stuff or if not physically, you know, we set

600
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,599
up and we just you know, just to walk in.

601
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:13,839
But anyways, in a nutshell, the guy on our team,

602
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,440
we man, he he did a lot of online stuff

603
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,559
and all that. So he hit me up and he's like, hey, man,

604
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:25,079
I think we got something over in Mountain City, Tennessee.

605
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:29,559
That's basically on the eastern tip where Tennessee meets meets

606
00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:32,839
like the Carolina, so it's like right as right, like

607
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,079
the Appalachian Mountain start and all that. So anyways, yes,

608
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,839
this lady contacted him and she's basically saying that that

609
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,039
in her house backs up to the mountains, and there's

610
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,440
been like a lot of homeless you know, getting killed

611
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,960
out there according to like accordance like the law enforcement

612
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,240
with like basically with just with like like a animal

613
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,359
attacks and stuff like that. And only that there's been

614
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:00,559
like a lot of like mutilations when it comes to

615
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,319
cattle chicken stuff like that. So and they actually had

616
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:07,759
like a lot of logging roads out there, and a

617
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,920
couple of like the loggers were kind of spooked, you know,

618
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,880
to go out to go out a little ways. So

619
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,119
and then so then had some more digging. We talked

620
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,159
to local law enforcement. They told us there's been a

621
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,239
lot of situations af there, people go on thisss and stuff.

622
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,880
So we're like, hey, we're actually on the right track.

623
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,440
So we're just we'll watch you plant it out and

624
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,840
we'llatch you. We'll go out there. So I got my

625
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,719
team of guys to go. And the next thing, I know,

626
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,639
a lot of guys have like scheduling conflicts. So but

627
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,800
we actually promised this lady that we'd actually go out there.

628
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,159
So I was like, you know what, screw it, let's

629
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,039
just go. So there was only three of us that

630
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:43,360
went instead of the usual seven, so I will never

631
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,320
do that again. But anyways, uh so we actually went

632
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,440
out there. We talked to her, we talked to we

633
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:51,360
talked to some locals. We talked to a couple of

634
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,639
couple of guys in law enforcement, and they pointed us

635
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,239
in the right direction. They're like, hey, you can go

636
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,480
down like these certain logging roads. It gets pretty heavy

637
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,679
out there, you know, if you can, you know, just

638
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,519
be careful, protect your guyself if you need be and

639
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,039
you know, just let us know what time, like you're

640
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:11,079
going to be leaving tomorrow and all that, and we're like, yeah, man,

641
00:35:11,159 --> 00:35:13,360
So we basically gave them all the details and infro,

642
00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:17,119
so they point us in the right direction. So we

643
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:20,119
start driving on these logging roads and we're going miles

644
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:24,320
and miles of deep and so we go basically as

645
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,679
far as the truck can go, and then we get

646
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,679
out and we hike like a little ways in and

647
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,639
it basically ends up in like this little holler. You

648
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,960
got like these rolling hills and these mountains like on

649
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,840
all side of us. And so I'm the type of guy,

650
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,800
being a survivalist and law enforcement and stuff, I always

651
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,119
try to set a perimeter along based like a fifty

652
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,000
foot perimeter along all the way around our campsite. So

653
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,400
as the guys were setting up camp, that's what I

654
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,960
was doing. And then it's pushing like ten o'clock at night.

655
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:03,079
He gets the fire going, and I'm the Taylor tea.

656
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:06,480
I'm actually vetting them at this time. So he wants

657
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:07,599
to go out, he wants to be a part of

658
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,320
the team, but he's actually still he's on that line

659
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,320
where he's a skeptic and he's not. So he does

660
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,840
believe that there's things out there, but you know, he's like,

661
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,239
I'm the type of guy I have to I have

662
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,960
to physically hear it or see it or just you know,

663
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,920
be in that situation. So I'm like, well, this seems

664
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,840
like a good opportunity for you. So yeah, he's yeah,

665
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,719
So so he came along. But anyways, so after they

666
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,039
get done to cooking dinner and stuff, we're just sitting

667
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,880
down eating and then and then we mean goes in

668
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,920
his tent and he's like, hey, guys, I'm gonna crash

669
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,440
out a little bit. It's been a long day. I'm like, ye,

670
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,400
I'm gonna go for it. So me and Tear at

671
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,079
the fire, just just showing out, sitting down, just talking,

672
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,800
and it's pushed him, like twelve o'clock at night and

673
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,239
fire starting to die down a little bit. And for

674
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,599
everybody going on the side, note on what Jessica said,

675
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,840
if you guys are going out there, bring you something

676
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,840
to protect yourself with, fair mace, a firearm, a knife, something,

677
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,239
you know, go with multiple people, because let's say hypothetically,

678
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,559
if something happens, you break your leg or something you

679
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,599
buy yourself, you wrestle. Well, guys, you know you're basically screwed,

680
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:18,000
so you know, you always have somebody there to help

681
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:20,800
you out. We call him battle buddies, so you know,

682
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,679
thank God for battle buddies. But anyways, so him and

683
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:25,800
I are just sitting there chatting. Next thing we know,

684
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,719
we're hearing some rocks and some tree branches break about

685
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,280
a good five hundred yards up from us on the

686
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,119
north side, coming down this mountain. And then my buddy

687
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:38,039
Tea looks at me and he's like, what's that, man,

688
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:39,800
someone coming down the mountain. I'm like, yeah, I mean

689
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,320
I think so. And so we're just listening and we're

690
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,559
hearing this thing just come down the mountain. So I'm

691
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:49,840
thinking it's a deer or whatnot. He is too, and

692
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,000
then this thing ends up but a good one hundred

693
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,400
and fifty yards away from us, and not mind you,

694
00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:00,960
it's actually pitched black out there, and we hear stop.

695
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,679
And then next thing we know, we hear something on

696
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,280
the on the left of us start moving, and then

697
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,920
we hear something on the right of us running. There's

698
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,800
the difference. If any of you guys are hunters out

699
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,039
there or been in the woods long enough you know

700
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,000
the difference between someone running by petal or something running

701
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,639
on four legs. So we heard something by petal running

702
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:25,599
on the left of us, I'm not sorry, on the

703
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:31,159
on the right of us. And as we're focusing and

704
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:33,920
we're just quiet, next thing, you know, like the north

705
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:39,199
alarm goes off. So what sucks about, Hey, what's going on? Larry?

706
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,880
What sucks about those certain type of alarms that I

707
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960
actually put up is that I have to go physically.

708
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,119
I actually have to go physically check them and set

709
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:49,960
them up again. So that's what we had to do.

710
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,960
So then so basically, basically, the north alarm goes off,

711
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,719
we get in front of assault mode, rifles up, and

712
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,880
we just go towards the alarm and I reset it.

713
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:09,320
I didn't hear anything at the south of warm. Next thing,

714
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,280
we know, you're cutting out?

715
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?

716
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: Oh? Is that better? Yeah? I can hear you.

717
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,639
Speaker 1: Okay, hopefully want to be other problems. I don't know

718
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:20,880
if it's a Wi fi issue, but yeah, you're cutting

719
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,119
in and out there, So I'm sorry to interrupt. Please continue.

720
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:28,199
Speaker 4: So basically, nutsh All, the alarms were going off and

721
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,679
it was getting pretty hairy, so I literally just picked

722
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,199
a tree trunk about a good twenty yards away, and

723
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,920
I just popped off for his shots. Boone, boom, boom,

724
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,559
And the next thing we know, four wheelers are crashing

725
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:47,440
through the freaking trees. So next thing we know, Paul

726
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,239
jumps out of the tent. He's like, hey, man, you

727
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,280
guys good. I'm like, yeah, man, I think I'm pretty

728
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,840
sure we had contact. He's like, well, yeah, I heard

729
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,880
that gunfire. So I got up real quick, and I'm like,

730
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,039
I think I think we're okay. Now He's like, okay, man,

731
00:39:58,079 --> 00:39:59,280
I'm just gonna go back in the tent and just

732
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,639
chill out. But I'll leave my flap open and the tent.

733
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:05,199
I'm like, a right man. So me and Tea are

734
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:09,039
just kind of like bug eyed listening, and he's kind

735
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,480
of he's kind of freaking out a little bit. So

736
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,480
next thing we know, it starts to rain. The fire

737
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:17,559
dies out, so me and Tea decide, you know, just

738
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:20,679
to go on our tents. So everything kind of dies down. Well,

739
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,760
he goes asleep. I'm not I'm seriously wide awake. I

740
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,920
throw in my night vision, I prone out in my tent.

741
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,039
I got my rifle up and ready, and I'm just chilling,

742
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:32,440
just watching, just listening. Well, I start to doze off,

743
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,920
and next thing I know, I wake up here in

744
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,440
like a zombie like like that. But I get out

745
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,199
of my tent real quick and I look and it's

746
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,639
tea and he's throwing up And next thing I know,

747
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,320
the alarm behind him goes off. The tree starts shaking,

748
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,880
and next thing I know, all the alarms go off

749
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,239
on every side of us. So he gets up, I

750
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,239
get up. I start firing a certain tree trunk. Because

751
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,000
here's the deal. If you guys are carrying weapons out

752
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,280
there and you don't know what you're shooting at, don't

753
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,480
do it. You know, just pick a tree trunk, you know,

754
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:09,679
just do like a warning shot, because you don't know

755
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:11,440
if it's a human, you don't know if it's a partners,

756
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,199
you don't know, if it's anything like that. But if

757
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:14,880
you want to give a warning shot, just pick a

758
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,119
giant tree or fire off the ground or something just

759
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:19,719
to basically, you know, just to give him a warning

760
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,320
or just to scare people away. So that's basically what

761
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,440
we did. So you know, we did not want to

762
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,639
fire in the dark, in the middle of nothing. You

763
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:28,320
know and not knowing what we're shooting at, but we

764
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,360
wanted to give a warning, so that's basically what we did.

765
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,800
So I picked a tree trunk, He picked the tree trunk,

766
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,039
and we just fired five shots from my ars. Boom

767
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:38,559
boom boom, boom boom, and then these things stick off

768
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:41,079
running again. So we're like, I'm like, dude, they're freaking

769
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,320
toying with us. Well, T was like, dude, what the

770
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,239
heck's going on with me? So I kind of educated

771
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,039
him on infrasound. I was like, look, man, here's the deal.

772
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:52,840
First of all, I want to know what happened to you.

773
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,039
And he's like, well, I know all of us ate

774
00:41:55,079 --> 00:42:02,639
the same thing. You're fine. We was fine. All I

775
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,880
heard behind me I woke up here in like a

776
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,159
grunt like that almost kind like a monkey sound, and

777
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,119
I'm like, what the heck is that? So I sit

778
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,639
up on my cot and then I hear a big

779
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,360
growl like a grunt, and he said it felt like

780
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,840
somebody hit me with the bat on my back, and

781
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,000
next thing I know, my head starts to spend. So

782
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:26,360
I get out of my tent and it get some

783
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,159
air and I'm looking up at the stars and everything

784
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,840
that starts spinning and I just start throwing up and

785
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,760
I feel like my insides are shaken. And then as

786
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,679
I'm throwing up, I hear you come out. I see you,

787
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,079
and then the alarms go off and that's when and

788
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:42,840
that's when all hell breaks, Lucy said so, and then

789
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,320
he kind of started to tear up a little bit

790
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,280
and he's like, dude, like I I one hundred percent

791
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,440
believe there's there are things out here that that that

792
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:52,719
seriously that go bump in the night and people see stuff.

793
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:56,800
And he's like, I am totally one hundred percent in, man,

794
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,800
I'm all the way in. So yeah, So after that though,

795
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,559
we set up the whole night. After that, Vic, we

796
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:06,159
set up the whole night. We had about a good

797
00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:08,480
three to four hours left until the sun came up.

798
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,519
So him and I were like back to back just

799
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:14,400
listening to these things test the perimeter, you know, shaking

800
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,840
trays a little bit, doing grunts, and they're just walking.

801
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,280
They're just they're basically just keeping out of sight. So

802
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,719
we're basically throwing up our rifles with the with the

803
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,760
freakingar ar lasers and lights and stuff. We can't see anything,

804
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,480
but we know they're right outside. They're literally right outside

805
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,039
the freaking light. Man. So I throw on my night vision.

806
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,199
I can't see anything, but I hear them. Man. So,

807
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,320
I don't know if they're a cloaking I don't know

808
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,119
if they're far enough out. But these things are amazing

809
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:43,639
for how heavy they are. They can be quiet, they

810
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:47,559
can be stealthy. Day sayious just amazed me. But after

811
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:52,079
that the sun came up, everything got quiet. Little we

812
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,199
we got up. Toy soldier got up and he's like, hey, man,

813
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,920
I heard you guys popping off some shots again. We're good.

814
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,480
I was like, tell you what, since you didn't interact,

815
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:02,639
you're cooking breakfast me and Ti. You're gonna go out

816
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,679
and see if you see anything. So he started cooking breakfast,

817
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,320
Me and Tea went outside the perimeter just to see

818
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,039
if we can see any footprints or anything like that.

819
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:13,880
The problem was this was in the middle of November.

820
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,159
Of course, you guys live in the south. All the

821
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,519
leaves have fallen by then. You know, everything's just straight up,

822
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,440
just much. So we didn't see any footprints because of

823
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,079
course all the leaves were covering everything. But we saw pathways.

824
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:29,199
Pathways are where these things came down. So we followed this,

825
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,239
followed this path that was going south. We go up

826
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,599
this ridge, and as soon as we crest the top

827
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:37,719
of this ridge, it was just the Appalachian mountains as

828
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,800
far as we can see him in and then that's

829
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,719
when it totally hit Tea. He's like, dude, these things

830
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,159
were coming in. They smelt our food. Of course they

831
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,960
seen us a mile off, and they were just coming

832
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,599
out here, you know, just to investigate us. And I

833
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:51,679
told him, I was like, man, if we would have

834
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,000
hit one of these things, bro, it could have been

835
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:56,760
really really bad. And honestly, I don't think we would

836
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,519
have made it out live, man, because these two two, three, five,

837
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:01,880
five six and can do nothing. Dog I go. Not

838
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,559
only that I packed eight mags, you only packed two mags,

839
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,199
and Paul only brought his pistol. So that was stupid, stupid, stupid.

840
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,039
And I'm never doing this again without bringing more than

841
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,079
without bringing more than at least five guys. And we're

842
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,320
coming definitely more heavy powered rifles and stuff like that.

843
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:23,760
But as far as that, you know, we're out here

844
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,320
just to having the experience, well you straight up got it.

845
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,159
And that kind of actually set me back for about

846
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:31,039
a good six to eight months. Man, Like I kind

847
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:33,519
of had to like get like my whole ground and

848
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,840
you know, just you know, basically just like rethink on

849
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:41,119
what I need to do and kind of just like

850
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,199
chill out from the woods a little bit because it

851
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,880
got pretty hairy pretty quick.

852
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:45,119
Speaker 3: Man.

853
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: So that's yeah, that's one of the It's actually one

854
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,239
of the scary moments I've had. Not only that, I

855
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,679
felt like I had to protect Tea as well and

856
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,800
Paul because I was kind of the veteran part of it.

857
00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,920
I've been doing this longer in anybody. But I totally regretted, like, man,

858
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,119
I should have brought more guys. I should have brought

859
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,800
more guys at least, and yeah, man, all of us

860
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,920
were scared, for sure scared. So yeah, that's prot of

861
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,960
the most scary moments I've had.

862
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand why you were scared. Yeah, that's

863
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,239
pretty intense, and everyone's got a plan until they get hit.

864
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,360
You never know how you are going to respond when

865
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,480
that punch finally does come in. But you didn't freeze up.

866
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,159
You jumped into action and you took care of business.

867
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,679
So you're definitely a doer. Just from what I understand,

868
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,679
some guys in your team researching in North Carolina and

869
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,960
not all that long ago, and they unfortunately ran into

870
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:38,920
some people they didn't expect to see. Please expand on

871
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:41,239
that for us, Oh.

872
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, there was. We had a team up there

873
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,119
and I've got several of my teammates that live up

874
00:46:48,159 --> 00:46:52,800
around North Carolina. And I'm not going to say the

875
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,800
exact location, but it's around the National Forest up there.

876
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:59,360
It's very well known and they were doing some just

877
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,000
some crypto research. I know Bob was up there, David

878
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:06,119
Pardue was there. Just just a few of my guys

879
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,599
were up there, and they said they were just kind

880
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:12,039
of chilling out and had had a bunch of activity

881
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,960
throughout the weekend. I think they were out there for

882
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,000
a weekend, and one day these gentlemen just come trotting

883
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,360
out of the woods wearing full swat gear. They said

884
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,760
they had on you know, their their bulletproof, you know,

885
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,639
their kevlar, carrying their ars and stuff or whatever kind

886
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:32,760
of weapons they had, and like military guys, but they didn't.

887
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,119
Speaker 4: They weren't.

888
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't like specific military gear, but they were dressed

889
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:39,480
very militaristic and my guys were like, well, what are

890
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,159
y'all doing out here? Like, what are y'all doing? And

891
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:43,760
they looked at them and they said, well, we're doing

892
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,119
the same thing y'all are doing, and then they walked off.

893
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Now this is in the deep woods of the National Forest,

894
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,639
North Carolina. So I am positive that's what you're referring to, VIC,

895
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:00,239
because that is a something that's imprinted in all of

896
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,159
us as researchers. It gives some validity to some of

897
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:10,480
these claims that there is government involvement with the dog men.

898
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:13,159
Speaker 4: And Bigfoot.

899
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: And you know, this is a national park where there's

900
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,360
all sorts of different cryptid sightings. My buddy David, he'll

901
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,280
be coming on my show actually in a couple of weeks.

902
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:26,719
He has videos of little people in this National forest.

903
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:31,159
He has a long term relationship where he's gone out

904
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,400
and watched his little baby bigfoot have grown into big

905
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,199
bigfoots and has gotten video footage of all of it.

906
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,039
Is really they've kind of grown up with him. He's

907
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:44,760
grown up with them out there in North Carolina. But

908
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,920
dog man sightings in this area as well. But it

909
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:52,880
was one hundred percent true. It did happen. There were

910
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,000
men that came out of those woods dressed in military

911
00:48:55,039 --> 00:49:00,480
style uniforms, not specific any kind of military, any kind

912
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,880
of you know, swat team, but they were dressed like it,

913
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:06,320
and they were clearly with some sort of agency, let's

914
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,159
just say, and so they were doing the same thing

915
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:12,599
that they were doing in that national forest.

916
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,519
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump to conclusions here, I just

917
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:20,280
want to verify. I know it's not lost on you

918
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,480
that it's been said that government agencies will send teams

919
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:28,280
operatives out there to hunt rogue dog men that are dangerous.

920
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,880
From saying what you just did, does that mean that

921
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,519
you do subscribe to the idea that the government does that.

922
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,599
Speaker 3: Yes, I do. Actually, I do believe it after that testimony,

923
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,880
after what the guys told us happened out there. I mean,

924
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,239
there are a big group of my friends out there

925
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,199
that encountered those guys. So yes, one hundred percent, I

926
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,199
do believe that. And as a matter of fact, I

927
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,880
have a good friend who does bigfoot and dog man research.

928
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,840
It's not that he's even doing a lot of research.

929
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,199
He's more just had a lot of encounters up in

930
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,800
the not the Catskill, the Adirondacks, up in New York,

931
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,199
he is. Actually I don't want to. I'm not going

932
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,519
to get into specifics. He actually I don't know what

933
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:15,960
if he wants to share with the public.

934
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:16,639
Speaker 4: Uh.

935
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,599
Speaker 3: This is someone who I'm pretty good friends with. He

936
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:26,840
has has some knowledge actually of some military stuff that's

937
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,119
gone down. Let's just say, not through him, but someone else.

938
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,320
I have been sent some some videos of helicopters. I

939
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,039
guess it was like somebody filming from a helicopter. They

940
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:40,400
were chasing down bigfoots and stuff. I didn't see the

941
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,000
final whatever happened at the end of it, but there

942
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:48,559
was definitely it was definitely some night vision and from

943
00:50:48,599 --> 00:50:51,280
the viewpoint of someone sitting in a helicopter and they

944
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:57,280
were chasing down bigfoots for apparently elimination or extermination I

945
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,559
guess would be the word. Unfortunately.

946
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, just imagine the stories those people would have to tell. Yeah, yeah,

947
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,960
they'd have some Jim d andies. Before we move on,

948
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:11,000
I want to put an announcement out there so that

949
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:14,679
you know, on Monday Night, Hondo from episode one thirty.

950
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,760
He's a Special Forces operative who had a dog meann

951
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,679
encounter and he came on episode one thirty to tell

952
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,679
us about it. Well, he's had some things happened since

953
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,480
that episode aired. That was way back in January, I

954
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:31,039
think of what twenty seventeen. But nonetheless, he'll be back

955
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:34,440
on Monday night for a special midweek live stream episode

956
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,079
of the show. So do the best. You cannot to

957
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:38,840
miss that. That's going to be when you want to

958
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,920
catch moving forward, Drew. Have you ever had an experience

959
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:46,280
like that where you ran into, apparently with quotation marks,

960
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:48,000
government operatives.

961
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, like I said, going back to when we

962
00:51:52,880 --> 00:52:00,239
were extracting that that escaped convict, as we're coming down

963
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,039
the mountain, like I said, there was a lot of

964
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,719
three letter alphabet agencies out there helping us out too.

965
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,480
So as soon as we got there, these guys in

966
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:13,199
U in black BDUs and stuff went up after us.

967
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,320
Like as soon as we were walking down and they

968
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,679
were walking up, these guys were full kidd same stuff

969
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,079
we got, but there were different colors. They didn't have

970
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:24,719
any insignias on them or nothing like that. They just

971
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,000
had numbers, and uh, we just thought that was weird.

972
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:29,400
But we just thought they were going up there, you know,

973
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,519
should kind of be kind of kind of like the

974
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:33,519
cleanup crew kind of the guys for like sweeping, you know,

975
00:52:33,639 --> 00:52:36,199
and stuff like that. So you know, it was just

976
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,960
it was basically just kind of like it was. It

977
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,440
was like that, and I really didn't put anything together

978
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:42,599
until we got back to the precinct and started writting

979
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,000
up a reports and stuff, and uh, me and my

980
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,480
buddy were talking about that and we're like, what that Okay,

981
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:49,480
So we're kind of going over all the all the

982
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,199
aspects of all the thriller agencies that were there in

983
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,719
the state police and local and stuff like that. So

984
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,199
we're just kind of thinking about it. And I brought

985
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,679
that up to atension. I was like, Hey, who those

986
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,719
guys in all black man and you know, the black

987
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,320
Camo and stuff like that, and he's like, you know what,

988
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:09,239
I don't know, so so kind of put two and

989
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,480
two together and yeah, that's what I think. But I'm

990
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,000
just I'm just throwing out, you know, theories here. But

991
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:21,480
other than that, yeah, so that's that's yeah, that's it.

992
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,639
That's the only run as I've had.

993
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: But when you research these things the way you two do,

994
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:29,880
you never know. You just might have a run in

995
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:33,000
at any given time. You never do know. And with

996
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:36,280
that in mind, Drew doing what you guys, do do

997
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,199
you have any concerns fears about running a foul of

998
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:39,840
the government.

999
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:47,519
Speaker 4: Uh, well, yes and no to me, if I'm gonna

1000
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:51,519
tread lightly on this one, yes and no, I'll just

1001
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
I'll just put it like that, just like yes and

1002
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:56,519
no to me, if you if you wanted to one

1003
00:53:56,639 --> 00:54:01,199
and things get hairy and if you bag one, I

1004
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,719
do believe that they're gonna come after you, you know,

1005
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,559
to try to shut you up and whatnot, so or

1006
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:08,559
you know, basically, you know, just keep tabs on you

1007
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:10,800
and stuff, because you know, I one hundred percent agree

1008
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,159
with you that one hundred agree with just you know,

1009
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,719
they to me, they actually use these things as weapons.

1010
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,800
They actually weaponize them. They also go after them if

1011
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,920
they go world as well, and they use these things

1012
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,199
as test subjects too, you know, basically to really send

1013
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:24,079
out in the in the national parks and stuff to

1014
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:26,800
see what they do. And you know, if they go road,

1015
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,679
you know, they send out critter hitters or they send

1016
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,760
out under other cryptids to go after them. But yeah,

1017
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:34,840
to me, nothing would surprise me.

1018
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: So anything's possible, it really is. How about you, Jess,

1019
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,159
is a risk of possibly running a foul of the government,

1020
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:46,320
something that you've put any thought into.

1021
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,199
Speaker 3: Well, I did mention in the beginning of the show.

1022
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,880
I used to work in government, Okay, on a state level.

1023
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,920
It has nothing to do with I do with with

1024
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:58,880
what I do today, of course, But you know, it's

1025
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,440
interesting because a lot of the guys that are on

1026
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:03,639
my teams are in government actually or have been at

1027
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:06,719
some point. I mean, the head of ASOG just retired

1028
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,239
from the Department of Defense and Intelligence.

1029
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 4: Okay.

1030
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:12,639
Speaker 3: So a lot of people on my teams and I

1031
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:14,280
can't I'm not going to disclose who everybody is and

1032
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,480
what they do, Okay, but but it's interesting. A lot

1033
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:21,800
of law enforcement officials, a lot of you know, fire chiefs, okay,

1034
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:28,960
and former and current military guys, and medics and doctors

1035
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:32,000
and nurses and like I said, a nuclear physicists, wildlie bagists,

1036
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,920
whatever we've got it. We've got like the A team.

1037
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,480
All my teams are like the A teams for cryptid

1038
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:42,039
research out there, you know, I've I kind of I

1039
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:44,119
think about it sometimes, but I also know who I'm

1040
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:47,039
rolling with out there too, and I don't. I don't

1041
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:48,519
worry about it too much. I mean, I'm not out

1042
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,679
there hurting anybody or anything. I also know that I

1043
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,000
do get contacted a lot by random people who claim

1044
00:55:56,079 --> 00:55:59,880
to be this and that, and you know it is

1045
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,760
what it is. There's there's there's people who have contacted

1046
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,519
me and told me, you know, confided in me about

1047
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:11,159
stuff like about being contracted to go out and unlive

1048
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,519
these And I say, unlive for you too, by the way,

1049
00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:18,079
I know how this works. Uh, but unlive you know,

1050
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:23,239
the dog men for agencies. Let's just say they say government.

1051
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,920
I got into asking questions about this, right, I've actually

1052
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,199
befriended a couple of these people. I don't. I've never

1053
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,119
met them personally, so I take it all with a

1054
00:56:33,159 --> 00:56:37,000
grain of salt. But they claim, let's just say, they

1055
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:40,199
claim that they have been contracted to go out and

1056
00:56:41,679 --> 00:56:43,199
do what I call critter control.

1057
00:56:44,039 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 4: That's my term.

1058
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:46,679
Speaker 3: I always, I always say critter control.

1059
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

1060
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: Whenever there's a rogue dogmen and it's specific to dogm

1061
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,639
in Uh, whenever there's a rogue dogmen that goes out

1062
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,280
and it actually hurts a human, let's just say, or

1063
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,480
it's not doing whatever they're you know, expected to do

1064
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,679
whatever that is, and they go and they they will

1065
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,719
hunt them down, which gives a little bit of validity

1066
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,400
to the rumors that they're the dogmen are part of

1067
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:17,519
some sort of government program or some kind of agency program,

1068
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,280
and they're being used as assets for assets I'm not sure,

1069
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,519
maybe you know, unallowing people, kidnappings, assassinations.

1070
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1071
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,199
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure what they'd be used for. I

1072
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,840
have my theories, of course, but I've asked questions like, well,

1073
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,000
what do you do when you actually go after these

1074
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:42,519
dogmen and you are sent on, you know, you're contracted

1075
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:44,480
to go take care of them for the crewter control.

1076
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,920
They say, well, we go out there and well, you know,

1077
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,079
they got a team. I go out there and they

1078
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:53,280
will They'll shoot them, and they'll take them. They bag

1079
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,519
them up and they take them to the lab, is

1080
00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:56,199
what I've been told.

1081
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:00,559
Speaker 1: Well, doing it as long as they've been doing it,

1082
00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:02,159
and I'm sure they have been doing it for a

1083
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,519
long time, they must have this down to a science.

1084
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:08,320
I don't doubt that at all. Drew, both you and

1085
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,440
Jess are experienced trackers. How much has that skill helped

1086
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,280
you though while you've been out in the field looking

1087
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,480
for cryptids.

1088
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,639
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's definitely helped a lot. Like yeah, like

1089
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,559
like with Jessica and myself to just be in prior

1090
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:25,440
law enforcement and dealing with tracking humans basically. So it

1091
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:29,519
definitely has helped a lot when it comes to the footprints,

1092
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:32,679
how to read them, you know, scats stuff like that. Yeah,

1093
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,000
it's definitely just a good tool on your tool, but

1094
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:37,480
you know, just just to use and if anybody wants

1095
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:40,239
to jump and cryptied researching now, I definitely suggest that

1096
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,000
you guys go take like a basic like tracking class

1097
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:45,920
and like a survival class and stuff too, because you know,

1098
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:48,480
to me, you guys are going to run into more

1099
00:58:48,679 --> 00:58:50,559
of that than anything else. You guys are going to

1100
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:54,239
run into more medical problems and anything. So I would

1101
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,199
suggest you guys just get the cornerstones of of the

1102
00:58:57,239 --> 00:59:00,400
whole field craft and encrypted researching, which is medical racking

1103
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:03,000
and uh yeah, stuff like that. So and just you know,

1104
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,039
and all your gear and definitely train with it because

1105
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:08,280
I know a lot of people go out there with

1106
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,320
brand new gear. They haven't even broken in their boots

1107
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,880
or anything like that, and you know, and only that

1108
00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:15,880
stay in shape guys. It definitely helps out a lot,

1109
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,119
you know, because if you're not in shape, you're freaking

1110
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:20,599
how do you call it. You are not an asset.

1111
00:59:20,719 --> 00:59:22,840
You are a liability because if something happens to you

1112
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,519
and your team's got to like, you know, walk you back,

1113
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:28,639
you know, just because you're out of shape or something happened,

1114
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:30,960
you know, because for one, you didn't test out your gear.

1115
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:34,239
But you know, like I said, basics, basics, basics, man,

1116
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,719
It's all comes down to is the basics. So but yeah,

1117
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,320
going back to what you said, Yeah, tracking does help,

1118
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,599
and it is a you know, yeah, it's definitely just

1119
00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:47,239
a big, big tool to have on the tool about

1120
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:47,559
for sure.

1121
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: As important of a skill as that would be, you

1122
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,760
would think you would think more researchers would be better

1123
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,760
at tracking, but it seems like it's definitely a lost

1124
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,840
art that not many researchers have. It's just one th

1125
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:04,039
those things, Jess. In addition to hunting cryptids like dogmen

1126
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:07,639
and sasquatch, you went for things like vampires too. Now.

1127
01:00:07,719 --> 01:00:09,880
I know a lot of people listening to tonight's show

1128
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,840
are probably rolling their eyes now thinking about the fact

1129
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,840
that there are actually people out there who look for

1130
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,199
things like vampires. But what would you say to those

1131
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,480
people to help them wrap their minds around. Why you

1132
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,800
take their existence seriously enough to actually go out there

1133
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,480
and look for them.

1134
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: Well, I take it very seriously because I never went

1135
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,039
out actually looking for vampires. What happened was we got

1136
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:36,760
called out. Drewski and I got called out to an

1137
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:42,199
investigation up in North Tennessee this past year and the

1138
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,000
family that was living on this property, they had a cave.

1139
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,719
Let's just say, they had a cave about thirty feet

1140
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,519
from their back door at their home. And they just

1141
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:53,599
bought this house and they were having all sorts of

1142
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,039
problems where their chickens were getting taken out of their

1143
01:00:57,079 --> 01:01:01,599
pen at night and disappearing. These their prize pet chickens.

1144
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,280
They had cameras set up around the house, and they

1145
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,800
were having black figures slinking around looked very much like

1146
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:14,679
bigfoot or dogmen around their yard. And we're having a

1147
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:16,880
lot of problems around this house. It was really spooky,

1148
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:20,960
and Drew Ski and I got called out and the

1149
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:25,760
team Cryptid Warfare Operators and Survival got called out there.

1150
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:29,280
And it turns out, after doing some research before we went,

1151
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:34,880
we found out that this home actually sat on property

1152
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,039
that once belonged to the chalk Taw people. And that

1153
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,719
cave behind her house actually was known as the Skinwalker Cave,

1154
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,880
and so I had never gone hunting for those before.

1155
01:01:48,519 --> 01:01:51,400
I'd never experienced them that I know of, and so

1156
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:54,159
I had to. I didn't have to, but I did.

1157
01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:57,679
I consulted with my good friend William Knighthawk, who is

1158
01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:00,760
a Native American shaman, to find out exactly what we're

1159
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,679
supposed to do when we come across something like I'm

1160
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:06,519
just going to say a s walker, okay, cause we're

1161
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:10,599
not supposed to say that word too much. And the

1162
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:15,280
things that he told me actually sounded more like hunting

1163
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,039
vampires than it did what I would think would be,

1164
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:21,440
you know, hunting at s Walker. It was actually it

1165
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:25,559
literally was like hunting vampires. And so there's definitely a

1166
01:02:25,639 --> 01:02:28,320
spiritual aspect to all of this. But we were going

1167
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,800
there to go check it out. We were going to

1168
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,320
go check out the dog man sightings and the bigfoot

1169
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,159
sightings and just to see what was going on. But

1170
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,119
once you get into the field, you do this research,

1171
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:42,039
you see that all this is so connected. The spiritual

1172
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,960
aspect of all this is very connected, and these are

1173
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,039
not all just flesh and bone creatures. There's more to it.

1174
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:53,639
In my experience, there's more to it, and that includes dogmen.

1175
01:02:54,679 --> 01:02:57,280
Some people think that all the dog men are demonic,

1176
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,599
or some of them are demonic something. People think that

1177
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,480
big but have a demonic element to them. You know,

1178
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:04,800
you hear about the red eye shine, the red eye glow.

1179
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,960
I used to think, man, why that's terrible just because

1180
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,519
they got red eye shine or red eye glow, people

1181
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:15,079
think they're demonic. Well, the more I look into it,

1182
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:17,719
the more I'm out there, I don't know anymore. I

1183
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,760
think they maybe some of them are demonic.

1184
01:03:20,039 --> 01:03:20,519
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1185
01:03:21,559 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, we have to learn how

1186
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,039
to deal with all of it when we're out there.

1187
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:34,960
You'd be crazy not to so, including dog man research.

1188
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,079
You know, and I know y'all were just talking about tracking.

1189
01:03:37,159 --> 01:03:41,400
That is one of the fundamentals of getting out there

1190
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,000
and doing encrypted research. You have to know how to do.

1191
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,400
You have to know how to track. You need to

1192
01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:48,400
know the animals of the area. You need to know

1193
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:51,079
the sounds, you need to know you need to know

1194
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:53,239
everything about that area that you're going in there to

1195
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,880
go research, you have to if nothing else, go learn

1196
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,639
what a you know, a feline footprint looks like compared

1197
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:04,559
to a knine footprint. Okay, it's so important, just stuff

1198
01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:09,199
like that, even learning human footprints. You know, when I

1199
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,360
went out to learn tracking, and I've done lots of

1200
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,920
tracking courses with my team. And it's not only in

1201
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:19,960
the summertime, springtime, fall and winter. Okay, get out there

1202
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,760
and do it every season so that you know what

1203
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,239
to look for and how to do it. Do tracking

1204
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,679
at night and in the daytime. It's important to know

1205
01:04:28,719 --> 01:04:31,360
how to do that too. But just to know the elements,

1206
01:04:31,719 --> 01:04:37,360
the fundamentals, is key. It's key to all of this.

1207
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,199
But yeah, it's like I said earlier, you got to

1208
01:04:41,199 --> 01:04:42,920
have an open mind about all of this stuff. And

1209
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:45,400
when you get into the research as deep as Drew

1210
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,119
Ski and I are in, you're going to come across

1211
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,719
more than just what you're out there looking for.

1212
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what they say, be careful what you

1213
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:57,400
wish for ask for, And that's especially true when it

1214
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,960
comes to looking for these things. It really is. Drew,

1215
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:03,800
a hardcore team member named Brian told you about it

1216
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,639
really frightened the experience that he had in Alabama that

1217
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,880
really shook him up. What more can you tell us

1218
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:09,880
about what happened? To him.

1219
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. Funny thing as you mentioned that they actually went

1220
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:18,519
back like last month and they had another experience as well.

1221
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,719
But anyways, yeah, so anyways, Yeah, so one of the

1222
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:27,119
guys basically basically one of my best friends, Poe dunk Ak, Brian.

1223
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,679
He is basically my second command when it comes to

1224
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:34,920
this team, so good dude. Him and his his father

1225
01:05:35,159 --> 01:05:38,599
and his nephew. They went out to Alabama in a

1226
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:41,519
certain area because they want to. They actually wanted just

1227
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:44,800
to go out and just camp. And with all of us,

1228
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,559
we're very avid campers. Well we don't blamp. We actually

1229
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,119
put our rucksacks on and we go as far as

1230
01:05:52,199 --> 01:05:53,840
we can in the woods, you know, and we set

1231
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,360
up and we basically try to put our survival skills

1232
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,719
to the test, you know, just to make sure that

1233
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,280
we're up on him. So we couldn't go a couple

1234
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,760
of guys can it go. So it just ended up

1235
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,840
being Brian, his father and his nephew. So they ended

1236
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,880
up going and they actually I don't know, he can't

1237
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:16,480
point it, but his dad is a veteran and he

1238
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:18,920
was in the war and he's been in a lot

1239
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,519
of Harry situations and he said he's he's like Drew,

1240
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:25,119
He's like, I've never been so scared. He's like, I've

1241
01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:27,360
been in a lot of situations, gunfire, stuff like that.

1242
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:30,440
He's like, I've never been so morbidly scared in my

1243
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:34,440
life than the freaking experience that we had in Alabama. Man.

1244
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:38,719
So basically, they hiked in, they set up camp, and

1245
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,559
all this happened at night. Next thing, you know, he

1246
01:06:41,639 --> 01:06:44,400
said that they started hearing some some things break, some

1247
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:47,920
things running around him, some growls, and they ended up

1248
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,159
being all of them ended up being back to back

1249
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:52,920
with their pistols out, with these things just taunting them

1250
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,280
the whole time. And Brian's like, you know what, man,

1251
01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:59,000
I don't think it was a bigfoot. I really think

1252
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:03,400
it was adult dog men, like a pack of dogman. Yeah,

1253
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:05,239
just I don't know what it was. He's like, for one,

1254
01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:09,440
just like the smells were different, their body language, like

1255
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,280
hearing them yipping was different. I don't know, he said,

1256
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,639
he just felt just like a primal fear he goes.

1257
01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:17,880
But other than that with sasquats, he's like, other than

1258
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,800
that bigfoot, He's like, I never ever feel that, but

1259
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:23,519
something about this just gave me a primal fear man.

1260
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:25,320
He's like, I really do think it was a dog,

1261
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,320
like a pack of dog man out they're messing with us.

1262
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,800
But as far as that, he said, we did not

1263
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,599
sleep the whole night. Man. He's like, we were so

1264
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,920
tired and so scared, and then as as soon as

1265
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,239
a light hit, we packed up and we got the

1266
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,039
heck out of them. And then so he was telling

1267
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:45,119
me he was going to this area. So anytime the

1268
01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:47,000
guys go to a certain era, like where I can't

1269
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:49,719
go or you know, or I'm going where they can't go,

1270
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,679
we always let each other know where we're going, where

1271
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:56,280
we're at pinpoint, the grid locations, and what time we're

1272
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,440
going to be back right and if we're not back

1273
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,480
in twenty four hours, sending the freaking calvalry. So he

1274
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:03,559
let me know. So when he got back, he got

1275
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:05,800
back a day earlier than expected, and he hit me up.

1276
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,480
He's like, hey, man, can you talk. I was like,

1277
01:08:07,519 --> 01:08:09,360
what's up, dude? Like I thought I thought you were

1278
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,119
going to be camping, and he's like, yeah, like you

1279
01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:14,239
sariously had to just drive back and we had a

1280
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,039
certain situation happened. I was like, what happened? So him

1281
01:08:17,039 --> 01:08:18,680
and I actually met up for coffee and we talk

1282
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,479
and yeah, he basically told me the same thing I

1283
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,399
just told you, man, and I was like, okay, well,

1284
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,800
what do you want to do. He's like, let's get

1285
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,359
the guys, Let's get the gear bro. We're going back.

1286
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,800
We're gonna we're gonna freaking investigate this. We're definitely going back. Okay. Cool.

1287
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,439
So that's when I hit up my guys and then

1288
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,239
I hit up Jessica. Yeah, and then we hit it

1289
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:36,760
out that way.

1290
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like a prime spot to research having action

1291
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:49,520
like that, Drew, it's my opinion that a lot of

1292
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,600
people go out looking for these things, so we have

1293
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,319
no business whatsoever doing So do you have any opinions

1294
01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:57,399
on that that you'd be willing to put out there

1295
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:57,760
for us?

1296
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree, like baicly, like unlike what Jessica said,

1297
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:10,079
this stuff isn't for everybody, and it's it's not like

1298
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:12,479
the movie Guys, where it's like poetic and stuff like.

1299
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,239
This stuff is actually legit dangerous, and like I said,

1300
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:21,199
not only that, like, you guys can't be messing with

1301
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:23,319
something that you're just getting a high about. You have

1302
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,760
to do your research. You got to pray about it.

1303
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,119
You got to think about it. You know, you really

1304
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:31,199
got to do your homework on what area you're going to,

1305
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,920
what animals you might run into, how's the population, what

1306
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:37,199
people you might run into, What are you gonna do

1307
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:39,760
if there's a medical situation. You guys got to think

1308
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,199
about stuff like that as well. What gear you're bringing

1309
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,880
with us. The way how we pack accordingly is with

1310
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:49,560
the mission set right, what we're going out there, what for?

1311
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,960
And not only that, Like like you said, you know,

1312
01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:55,960
people really don't know what they're gonna People always have

1313
01:09:56,039 --> 01:09:59,479
a plan until they get hit. So you know, it's

1314
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,840
like that's what I said. It's just it's just a

1315
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,479
whole stressful situation. If a person puts himself in stressful situations,

1316
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,000
how do you learn? You learn from experience. Well, if

1317
01:10:09,039 --> 01:10:13,399
people never been out in the wilderness, don't know how

1318
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,560
to do basic survival and they're just going out there

1319
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,760
because they heard this podcast like hey, I want to

1320
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,399
be a crypti researcher, and they don't have the right gear,

1321
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,920
they can go out there and they can actually die

1322
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,239
from hypotherbia. They can die from a broken leg, a

1323
01:10:24,319 --> 01:10:28,079
medical situation. Like you guys, stuff like that being prepared

1324
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:29,920
and thinking about what you're going to do is key.

1325
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:32,720
Your mind is your biggest weapon. Guys. You have to

1326
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,800
prepare and like I always tell Jesske, you know, luck

1327
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,720
favors are prepared, so packed accordingly. Do your homework or

1328
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,319
do you research, Ask the locals where you're going, stuff

1329
01:10:41,399 --> 01:10:43,920
like that to get. Try to gather as much intel

1330
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,399
as you guys can. The more you know, the better

1331
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,399
off you're going to be. And not only that, for

1332
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,239
God's sakes, if you're going to go out in the wilderness,

1333
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,239
work out a little bit, go on walks, put your

1334
01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:55,359
gear on, test it out, because you don't want to

1335
01:10:55,399 --> 01:10:57,319
go out there with brand new gear. That's how you

1336
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,199
get blisters, That's how you get stuff breaking. You know,

1337
01:11:00,319 --> 01:11:02,399
you guys want to test out all your stuff before

1338
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,720
you go out cryptied hunting or say CRYPTI researching me

1339
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:09,640
not only that, learn to track all these things, guys,

1340
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,359
there's so much. There's so much to learn. But like

1341
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,600
I said, your basics are field craft's revival, tracking, medical,

1342
01:11:17,279 --> 01:11:19,640
and then not only that, get like minded people that

1343
01:11:20,399 --> 01:11:22,479
are on the same page with you, you know, who

1344
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,279
are not hot tempered, who think who yeah, just you know,

1345
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:28,800
and also too, what helps out to is get someone

1346
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,760
out there who is a naysayer, you know, who can

1347
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,600
kind of bring you back to reality sometimes, because if

1348
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,159
you have a group of people that are on the

1349
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:41,479
same page, you will you will basically hope for something

1350
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,239
and you will start to create a certain thing in

1351
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:46,199
your head. If you have someone who's a naysayer, he

1352
01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:48,199
can actually bring you back to reality like oh, yeah,

1353
01:11:48,279 --> 01:11:51,039
you know what, Yeah that wasn't owl, or yeah that

1354
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:53,199
was a that was a deer or something. You know,

1355
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,279
just you know, you guys got to think about that stuff.

1356
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,760
So yeah, that's that's what I got.

1357
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: You make some really good points. There's a reason why

1358
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,960
when you walk into a motorcycle shop a dealership and

1359
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,319
you're looking at Leader bikes, and when the salesperson asks

1360
01:12:11,399 --> 01:12:15,279
you for information about your experience riding motorcycles and you

1361
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,439
let them know I've never ridden before, there's a reason

1362
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,880
why they look at you the way they do in

1363
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,520
a situation like that. Yeah, you don't start off riding

1364
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,159
motorcycles learning the ropes on a Leader bike for a

1365
01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:32,760
good reason. The same reason that if you've never been

1366
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,560
in the woods, or if you barely have any time

1367
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,159
at all, in the woods. There's a reason why you

1368
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:40,640
don't go out looking for these things. Now, that's one

1369
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,279
thing to just go stumbling out there in places that

1370
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,560
you don't know that they are likely to be. It's

1371
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,079
just woods, and well, I'm gonna go out into this

1372
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:52,520
woods and see what i can find. Well, you can

1373
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,239
find trouble other than dog me and related issues out

1374
01:12:55,279 --> 01:12:57,920
there by doing that. But in the odds if you're

1375
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,880
having trouble with a dog mean by doing that or

1376
01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:05,520
pretty slim. But with some of these people listening to

1377
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,680
the show and putting it out there that they want

1378
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,760
to go out there and start researching themselves, and they

1379
01:13:13,079 --> 01:13:15,399
put it out there also they don't have any experience

1380
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,119
in the woods. That's crazy. That is just not a

1381
01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:23,800
good idea. You can have a situation where the dog

1382
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,439
man sasquatch is benign, but due to this or that,

1383
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,720
things can go sideways. And if they do go sideways,

1384
01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:34,479
how much you know about the woods and what's going

1385
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,439
on out there. That could be the difference right there

1386
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,319
between you making it home, sitting on the couch and

1387
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,920
thinking about, Wow, that sure was quite the experience, and

1388
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:49,119
having groundhogs bringing to your mail. So yeah, it's just

1389
01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:54,000
crazy some of these people. It's just crazy the idea

1390
01:13:54,079 --> 01:13:56,039
that they would want to that they would even think

1391
01:13:56,079 --> 01:13:58,560
they're ready to go out and do this. It really is.

1392
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,920
It's almost time for us to call it, guys. But

1393
01:14:03,039 --> 01:14:06,159
before we do, two things. Number one, I want you

1394
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:10,720
to one by one plug your podcasts and also the

1395
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,600
organizations that you work with. Jess please go first.

1396
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:16,159
Speaker 4: Thanks.

1397
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: Vic.

1398
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 3: Well, I'm also known as the Cryptid Huntress. So i

1399
01:14:21,079 --> 01:14:24,520
have a YouTube channel and I'm also on Rumble and

1400
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,000
I broadcast on Facebook. But just look up the Cryptied Huntress.

1401
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,399
I have a website, the Cryptidhunterress dot com. I put

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out four live shows every week on my channel discussing

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cryptids and all things crazy and weird. And we have

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a good time over there on my channel. And Vic,

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you're coming on my channel next week as a matter

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of fact, So Vic will be my guest next Wednesday.

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I'm looking forward to that. But yeah, let's see just

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the Crypted Huntress all over the place. Just you can

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find me on social media all over. I am a

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member of a nickma a research group North Georgia Cryptid

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Researchers Anomalist Studies an observation group seekers and now cryptid

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warfare operators as well. So I do have a lot

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of boots on the ground field research. I've been doing

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this since twenty eleven. And yeah, if you guys have

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any kind of sightings or you know, have something that

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you'd like to be investigated, hit me or drew up

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please if you're down in the southeastern Regent region of

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the United States, we don't mind looking into stuff like that.

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We've had some really interesting investigations and this team is

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pretty active. So thanks for letting us be here tonight.

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Speaker 4: Vic.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks so much for being here. And I can't

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say enough about your show, The Cryptid Huntress. That's a

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good show and the fact that you produce four episodes

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of it every week. I don't know how you do it.

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I mean that in addition to being a mom and

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heading out into the field and everything else you do.

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You must not sleep.

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Speaker 3: I do sleep. I actually I have to sleep. But

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I appreciate that. That's so sweet of you, coming from you.

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That is a huge compliment. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're welcome, just telling it like it is. And yeah,

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you were born to do this. You're a great host.

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I do have a bone to pick with you though,

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that intro outro song that you use for the Cryptid Huntress,

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that is the biggest earworm there is. I think I

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might be I'm almost to the point where I can

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understand the words that voice is saying in that song.

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But that's a great song. Oh there are words in that.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I have no idea, it's just well,

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I started off with the show called a Glitch in

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the Matrix, and I wanted to find the glitchiest song

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I could find.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so that's why. That's why it sounds like that.

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Speaker 1: I love the song. The first time I heard that,

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I thought, wow, Jess, that's a great intro slash outra song.

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Great job finding that. But wasn't the world is she saying?

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What are the lyrics here? So you listen a little

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closer and closer and closer. Yeah, I figured pretty much

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it was a case where there weren't any actual lyrics.

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But yeah, great job finding that. Definitely, thanks here, welcome.

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How about you, Drew, how about a shameless plug on

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your part to promote your podcast and your organization there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it. Me. I appreciate having us on

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the show, and I gotta agree with you, Vick. Yeah,

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her her intro outro songs at bangor man for sure.

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Speaker 1: I like it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay out that. Yeah, guys, my name is Drewski.

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I'm the I'm the host of a Cryptive Warfare and

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Conspiracies podcast. You guys can find me on Instagram, app,

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podcasts with Spotify, YouTube all that stuff. So uh yeah,

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can find on Instagram, Facebook, and also to the organization

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I started up as a CW operations in survival. It's

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basically where we teach people how to survive out in

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the wilderness. You know your basics also too. If people

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are having problems to seed wu's Crypted Warfare Operations, you

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guys are having problems with critters or anything like that,

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You guys, Andy Prayer will be there to help you out.

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You guys need anything physically demanding, we will be there.

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We'll be glad you know, to be consultants for you guys.

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You guys need any help when it comes to that,

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and let us know. We'll be there so.

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Speaker 1: And you'll be in good hands too if they do

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contact you. Well, before I ask for any closing comments,

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I want to put this out there one last time,

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like I said earlier Monday night, nine pm Eastern Time.

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There's going to be a special midweek episode of dogg

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Me and Encounters, a live stream episode where Hondo from

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episode one thirty comes back to update this on what's

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been happening, what his experiences been have been like since

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he came on that show. But now we've got that

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out there, the one last order of business is to

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ask for closing comments. Jess please go first.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for letting us be here tonight.

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Speaker 4: Vic.

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about all the times I quoted

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you in your in your episodes on my channel and

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on my shows, and I did I know. I was

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just thinking the other day about how amazing I've been

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able to make so many connections through all of the

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encounters that people have had that they've shared on your

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show with other encounters that I've taken from you know,

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investigations and things. It's also connected. And so I thank

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you so much for being a platform for everybody who's

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had a dog Man encounter to come on here and

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tell their story, because it really does make a big

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difference in the research field for people like Drewski and myself.

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Not only are we were finding out like the locations

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or where these sightings are. But we're getting real life

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encounters with people who've had real, real experiences with these things,

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and so it really does help us as researchers to

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be able to have, you know, to hear your the

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encounters on your shows. So thank you for that. And

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I want everybody to play stay safe out there. Don't

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live infeer y'all. Okay, don't live and fear driwsk you out.

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And I are either doing it because we love it,

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and we said we've established it's not for everybody, you

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know what we do, but we do enjoy it. And

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yes we'll report back to you guys what happens and

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01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,960
what we find. Come over to Crypti Warfare podcast and

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the crypt Huntress on YouTube and also of course dog

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Man Encounters.

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Speaker 1: So so thanks beg oh no, thank you for your time.

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You're one of the good ones. So of course it's

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a pleasure to have you on. And please remember if

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I can ever help you in the future, all I

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have to do is let me know.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Vig, I will dittoh well, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 1: How about you, Drew? Any closing comments?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, First of all, Vickers want to say, I

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appreciate you brother letting us come on and yes chat

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a little bit. So appreciate that. Man. Guys, the closing

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comments basically, like I said, you know, you guys are

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really thinking about doing this when it comes to cry researching,

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reach out to reach out to people who can do

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this for a while, Vick, myself, Jessica or just other people.

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There's loads and loads of people out there who have

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encrypted researching for a while. So you know, collect your intel,

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do your homework, do you research, test your gear, always

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01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:15,880
have exits, strategies, you know, just do your homework. Guys,

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Like I said, luck papers are prepared, you know, test

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your gear out and the guys be safety safety safe

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and don't go out there without a team of five guys.

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So and you know, have fun, well out there, have fun,

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have a good time, you know, live life. And yeah,

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that's that's basically it, man, That's all I got.

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Speaker 1: Well, those are really good words. Yeah, if you're not

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having fun doing what you do, you shouldn't be out there.

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Of Course, you're going to have some bad times out there,

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that's a given. That's just life. But if in general

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it's not fun, then why do it. So, yeah, I

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think that's very well said. I really do. But having

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said that, yeah, if you've had a dog meeting encounter

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that you'd like to reach out to me and get

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help with, you don't have to come on the show.

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There's never a requirement to do that. You can if

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you want to, but there's no pressure to do so.

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Please go to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report

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and let me know. And if you do that, then

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I'll be more than happy to reach out to you

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to schedule a phone consultation so we can find out

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what's going on and what happened to you. But having

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said that, thanks against so much everyone for listening to

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the show, for supporting the eyewitnesses and all that you do.

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I really do appreciate it, and of course hope you

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have a great weekend. Thanks for listening.