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<v Speaker 1>Did that Donald Trump crashing the economy, recession looming.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens next? Watch what happened? Will happen right here.

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<v Speaker 1>On fifty five KRC, the talkstation eight o five a

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<v Speaker 1>picky five KRC de talk station. Happy Friday, friend Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>please bring back to the picty five KRC Morning Show,

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<v Speaker 1>host of the Truth with John Gordon. Of course it's

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<v Speaker 1>John Gordon. John, welcome back to the morning show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>great to have you on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. It's great to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we dive into the news of late I Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>A Messu was on my program earlier this week and

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<v Speaker 1>he called it and he's like prescient his predictions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't in favor of the CR because it continues

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<v Speaker 1>funding levels on the on the Biden levels and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>cut much at all. So that was why he was

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<v Speaker 1>a no vote. He was very explicit and did a

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<v Speaker 1>good job of explaining himself in spite of the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that drew the IRA of Donald Trump. But it done

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<v Speaker 1>the last passed over in the sentence hands and according

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<v Speaker 1>to Chucky Schumer, at least before yesterday evening, it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a no over there, which was going

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<v Speaker 1>to result in a government shutdown, butt Chucky. She changed

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<v Speaker 1>his tune and the to capitulate, which is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>Massy predicted. I don't know why they were against it anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>since the funding levels didn't change your your take on

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<v Speaker 1>that one, John.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the party of opposition. If Trump's for it,

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<v Speaker 2>they're against it, even if it's what they want. To

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<v Speaker 2>your point, it's just lunacy, and frankly, I think they are.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're stark, raving mad. And I like Massy

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<v Speaker 2>and what he stands for. I like Rand Paul and

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<v Speaker 2>what he stands for. This country is at a tipping

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<v Speaker 2>point if we don't get control of federal spending. The

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<v Speaker 2>interest patements on the deficit, the loan are now our

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<v Speaker 2>single largest line item. That is pure economic waste in

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<v Speaker 2>my view. So I understand the cinema. Here's the counter.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is walking a high wire act, and this economy

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<v Speaker 2>is fragile. And you take two trillion dollars out of

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<v Speaker 2>the economy overnight and it implodes. We would go into

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<v Speaker 2>a depression of magnitude that we've never witnessed before. So

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<v Speaker 2>Trump wants to balance a budget. He's all for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to take some time. It's going to take

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<v Speaker 2>a little for mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, I guess the two trillion you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about taking out of the economy is that the

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<v Speaker 1>market losses or is that what is coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>government by way of you know, propping up various areas

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<v Speaker 1>like the green energy projects. If we pull the plug

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<v Speaker 1>on that, which the EPA effectively did the other day

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<v Speaker 1>as they were promising to do, does that ruin the

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<v Speaker 1>economy because there's no longer these artificial government dollar propped

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<v Speaker 1>up jobs out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You illustrate the point perfectly. That's it. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when the economy gets in trouble, what's the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>the federal Reserve starts to do. They print money like

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<v Speaker 2>drunken sailors. They start issuing bonds, they start buying their

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<v Speaker 2>own bonds, and they prop up the economy through what

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<v Speaker 2>they call stimulus. Well, if that's if that works, then

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<v Speaker 2>the reverse is going to have an ad verse attack.

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<v Speaker 2>So you take that money out of the economy, you

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<v Speaker 2>plunge us into a recession. So it is going, like

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<v Speaker 2>Trump says, it's gonna take some time, but he's committed

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<v Speaker 2>to the cause. We'll get there. I think we just attributation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be an interesting world if we

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<v Speaker 1>get the government out of our lives and allow the

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<v Speaker 1>free markets to prosper and thrive. Will that make up

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<v Speaker 1>this government infused fake economy? Like DEI alone is its

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<v Speaker 1>own fake economy. You got a lot of people out

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<v Speaker 1>there with college degrees and in diversity, equity inclusion. They

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<v Speaker 1>need jobs. So what do you do. You mandate these

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<v Speaker 1>programs across the entire landscape, which creates new departments and

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<v Speaker 1>new divisions within business, But those do not provide any

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<v Speaker 1>value in terms of revenue, in terms of creating goods

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<v Speaker 1>and services. It's just busy work and it's fake work.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'sok. The same economics courses I did well.

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<v Speaker 2>The government produces nothing. They don't add to G and T.

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<v Speaker 2>All they do is spend, and so there's no value

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<v Speaker 2>in that, except when they are the job creators. There's value.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's fake, it's it's pony, it's short term. But

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<v Speaker 2>so if you take two trillion out of the budget

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not debt, and you put that money back

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<v Speaker 2>in the economy, then muel the economy. But right now

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<v Speaker 2>the only alternative is take the deficit out, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what would have the unintended consequence of some bad economic repercussions,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. But if must can reduce the spending through

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<v Speaker 2>DOGE and those are real dollars and they go back

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<v Speaker 2>into the private sector, watch out, baby, let the good

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<v Speaker 2>times roll.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you pivoted over to DOGE because they

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<v Speaker 1>are revealing that we fund the indefensible. I mean one program,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean little here, little there. It all tends to

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<v Speaker 1>add up even you know, multi hundreds of thousands of dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seven hundred thousand dollars for studying cannabis use

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<v Speaker 1>among sexual, minority, gender diverse individuals. I mean, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is that all about.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got transgender studies on mice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I can't believe we're even talking about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I feel like a lunatic that we're even

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it. Yeah, but these are our federal tax

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<v Speaker 2>dollars at work, and it's just absurd. That's why I say,

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<v Speaker 2>I think these people have lost their minds. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're absolutely crazy. I know no better descriptive for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, John, I'm convinced more and more every single day

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<v Speaker 1>that they are outraged over this and because it's cutting

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<v Speaker 1>off his revelations and he's canceling all these grants again.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a Agriate Department of Agriculture grant in the San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco Bay area to educate queer trands in bipoc urban

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<v Speaker 1>farmers about food justice. I don't even know what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell that is. And it's probably so.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a straight guy and you're a farmer, you

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's urban farmers. I mean, first off, how

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<v Speaker 1>many bipock queer trans urban farmers are there collectively in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States? But then they could get a grant

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<v Speaker 1>to study what they're doing. I didn't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>food justice is. But the big concern here all these

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<v Speaker 1>USA programs that allegedly go out into the world, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>circumcisions in Jakarta or whatever. I'm convinced that that money

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<v Speaker 1>never got there, and that didn't accomplish the goal that

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<v Speaker 1>it purported to accomplish, even if the goal itself was ludicrous.

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<v Speaker 1>But that money remained in Washington for lobbying, dollars that

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<v Speaker 1>ended up in the pockets and Democrats to get themselves

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<v Speaker 1>reelected or otherwise directly in their pockets.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden said, we just sent one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>billion to the Ukraine. What did Zelenski say, where's the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of it? I only saw a hundred billion. M h.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, this federal government is rotten to its core.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think before it's all said and done, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to trace the money and we're going to find

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<v Speaker 2>that it went right back into the pockets of these

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<v Speaker 2>lunatic left wing Democrats who have been voting for all

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<v Speaker 2>of this irrational spending. And I've said for the last

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<v Speaker 2>four years on my radio show, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>they're governing poor, but as sure as hell is not us,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not, and it's going to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's freaking them out. The Doge is actually bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this to the American publish attention. This is low hanging fruit stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>You add it all up, and we're not getting to

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<v Speaker 1>that trillion dollar mark, but a little by little. But

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<v Speaker 1>you let any Republican or Democrat, any working human being

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<v Speaker 1>look at this and they think, just like you and me,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're paying for that how is that even possible?

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<v Speaker 1>So this is going to bring the House of cards

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<v Speaker 1>down at some point, they're not going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that they're on it, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's why they're launching this campaign against Elon Musk. Where

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<v Speaker 2>are the prosecutions, by the way, for the people that

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<v Speaker 2>have burned Tesla's and that are used rifles and shot

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<v Speaker 2>bullets into dealerships. Yeah, I mean, come on, that is

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<v Speaker 2>absolute anarchy. Yeah, some people locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was the darling of the green energy folks

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<v Speaker 1>there for a long long time. He was the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of the pack. Everybody wanted an Elon Musk Tesla and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's demonized because he's shown the world how bad

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Pivoting over to social Security, John, all those social Security

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<v Speaker 1>numbers for people who are one hundred and fifty plus

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<v Speaker 1>years old, they're still active and therefore probably being used

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<v Speaker 1>by some perhaps illegal person in this country with no

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<v Speaker 1>work permit to actually go work at a job. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even if a check isn't going out to that number,

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<v Speaker 1>it certainly can be used for nefarious purposes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>PPP grants to eleven year olds. They don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>normal business like practices in government. They're not required to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, but then again they're also not required to

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<v Speaker 1>be responsible stewards of the American taxpayer dollar.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we sensed it for a long time. Now we've

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<v Speaker 2>got plain proof of it. And can you imagine people

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<v Speaker 2>railing against Elon Musk because it's eliminating fraud, waste, and abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>It is James Carvel said, is that the who you

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<v Speaker 2>want to die on as a Democrat, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>oppose that. Yes, I want them to keep doing what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing because their approval ratings continue to plummet. Let

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<v Speaker 2>them just put the noose around their necks and let

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<v Speaker 2>them tighten it themselves, which is what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, and I got a kick out of Schumer yesterday. Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we want the attention to the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>not focus on different bills that they will bring to

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<v Speaker 1>the floor during the shutdown. They were talking about thirty

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<v Speaker 1>day extensions, this and maybe alternatives that to the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>c are. We'd rather focus on our message, which is

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to work. And I was scratching my head over that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a quote from him. It was like, what message

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently it's in his words, they meaning the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>are hurting the middle class to give tax breaks to

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<v Speaker 1>the billionaires. That tired old trope is that all they've got.

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<v Speaker 1>They have no message.

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<v Speaker 2>John, Well, if you listen to them, their focus is

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<v Speaker 2>on the message. They are trying one message. When that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work, they skip to the next lunatic statement to make.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's all about the message. I don't care about

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<v Speaker 2>the message. I care about the substance. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>curtail government spending. I want to curtail fraud and get

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<v Speaker 2>the one hundred and fifty year olds off the social

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<v Speaker 2>security roles. If we have to really stand up and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that in the public marketplace for ideas, we

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<v Speaker 2>are in serious trouble. I mean, it is self evident.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stop the lunacy and start governing to the American

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<v Speaker 2>people and then all the problems are solved. Will welcome

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<v Speaker 2>and embrace the Democrats into a free exchange for ideas

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<v Speaker 2>and stop the gainsmanship because it's killing us.

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<v Speaker 1>It is and one of the big problems with our

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<v Speaker 1>social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. That's the true existential thread.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are set to collapse on themselves and the deficit,

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<v Speaker 1>as you point out, we're paying a trillion dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>year in interest on this. You know, if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>write the ship, there's not going to be a United

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<v Speaker 1>States around. The Fiat currency's going to collapse, No one's

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<v Speaker 1>going to I want to buy our bonds. We aren't

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<v Speaker 1>even standing to the world's demise.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the adults are in the room now. I

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<v Speaker 2>am very optimistic that we're going to get things turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen John Fetterman, yeah, abandon the Democratic ship, the

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<v Speaker 2>sinking ship. He doesn't want to be on the Titanic,

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<v Speaker 2>and others are going to slowly, one by one listen

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<v Speaker 2>to reason and do the right thing. It'll take some

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<v Speaker 2>there eventually. What every Republican in America needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>focused on right here and right now is the midterm election.

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<v Speaker 2>Since Ronald Reagan, Republicans, well any any sitting president has

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<v Speaker 2>we're not focused on that, we're going to wake up

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<v Speaker 2>in two years really disappointed that we allowed complacency to

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, John Gordon, check it out. Host of The

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<v Speaker 1>Truth with John Gordon. Great having you back on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>John will be listening to what you have to say

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll look forward to having you back on the

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<v Speaker 1>morning show sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, And if your listeners would like

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<v Speaker 2>to check us out, go to www dot John Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they'll do it. Take care of John of

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<v Speaker 1>a great weekend. That's been my pleasure coming on an

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<v Speaker 1>eight eighteenth five K see talk station Color Electric service upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of those electric vehicles, and last time I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to John, he's a big fan of the EV so

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to counter my comments about him. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just against mandatory evs. So you got one, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to put a charger in your house, probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>need a service upgrade, so right now. Colin Electric, responding

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<v Speaker 1>to the new code changes that were implemented last spring,

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<v Speaker 1>which really really drove up the cost of service upgrades,

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<v Speaker 1>they're offering through the end of April a twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>discount on a new service installation for your home, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>percent off the total job costs can save you thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars, so it's the power up your Home sale.

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<v Speaker 1>Great savings on the service upgrade from Coulin Electric. Discount

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<v Speaker 1>is applicable to above ground or below ground residential single

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<v Speaker 1>promotion extends the breaker panel and main service upgrades only.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a ten year wiring warranty on that and

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<v Speaker 1>anything Culin does for you. So for all residential electric projects,

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<v Speaker 1>and the team at Cullen Electric. Schedule appoyment online at

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<v Speaker 1>Cullen Electric since natty dot com, or give him a

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