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Speaker 2: What's up, Nathan?

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Speaker 3: Not too much. How's it going on your end?

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Speaker 2: It's going beautifully.

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Speaker 1: It's going remarkably well today on a Thursday in Utah County,

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in Salt Lake County.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a great day. Man. I'm excited for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot around this game, for sure. I

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think part of me is kind of just ready to

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get to the football aspect of it all, but we

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got a lot of time, a lot of things going

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on in between there even just Saturday morning itself. So

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should it should be interesting to see how this all unfolds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, would have been the storylines coming out of Lubbock. Obviously,

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Texas Tech is favored in this game by you're running

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higher than them slightly eight to zero, the Red Raiders

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eight and one.

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Speaker 2: It's a game day kickoff right.

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Speaker 1: On ABC ten AM, and Texas Tech is favored not

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only in Vegas but also in ESPN analytics, giving Tech

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I believe a sixty point nine percent advantage. I'm sure

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it's going to be a sold out crowd. It looks

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like it's going to be sunny and beautiful, sixty six

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degrees at Jones at and T Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Would have been the storylines coming out of Lobbck.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, there's not a lot of football oriented storylines coming

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out of this right now. A lot of the focus

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has just been on game day's arrivals. Fans started camping

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out Saturday night or excuse me, Sunday night, ready to

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get their spots on line where they've been. The students

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are lined up, welcome and the football team going to

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and from practice. Players have been handing out donuts and

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pizza out there, So I think the actual football aspect

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of it has been kind of watered down a little bit.

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I think it'll amp up more as we get into

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closer to game time, but right now, it's just kind

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of everything surrounding the game. Like you mentioned, two top

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ten teams and both Poles, and the College Football Playoff,

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does this look like for the Big twelve Conference Because

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the way this kind of sets up is usually the

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Big twelve teams if they get a team in and

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that fourteen playoffs aspect, Now we go to the twelve

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team the Big Swell's got a pretty good chance to

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get two teams in there, especially with these two teams

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in particular as opposed to the ACC which has taken

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a step back. So this isn't just a big game

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for Texas Tech and Bye. This is a big game

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for the conference to kind of put itself in position

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to be that number three conference at least this year,

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if not going forward.

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Speaker 2: Tech and BYU.

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Speaker 1: Some would say were the most aggressive in NIL. I

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would say the Red Raiders in the portal and be

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a nil were probably the most aggressive BYU had a

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solid portal class. There's been a lot of hype around

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the basketball program, getting a lot of nil BAU football

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not as much. Are these two teams going to become

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the brand ambassadors for the Big Twelve going forward? What

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Oklahoma and Texas were for decades? Are these the two

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teams that will be carrying that bastard, that flag, that

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banner for the Big Twelve in the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 3: From the financial aspect, in the back end that these

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programs and these plastala departments have, I think there's a

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very good chance of that, and I think that's what

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the conference needs. And that's kind of been a talking

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point since Texas and l You both left, was who

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fills that void? Who steps into that Who can be

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our most reliable, our most consistent programs there? And a

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lot there was some talk about possibly TCU. They're in

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the forward area. They got some wealthy backers too, but

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they haven't turned that into any saying they're good. They've

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been a good team this year. They're kind of flying

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under the radar. Two and then Arizona State comes out

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of nowhere last year what the conference really needs is

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whether it's Texas Tech and BYU, whether it's two other teams,

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to be a consistent threat and a presence and always

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in that mix, whether that's top twenty five, top fifteen

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kind of thing. Financially speaking, I do think the way

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this is going to kind of work now with revenue

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sharing in the NIL, how that has to shift with

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like this portal class Tech brought in, You're not going

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to see that anymore because they're not going to allow

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that those kind of payments to go to players unless

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there's like fair market value and whatever the heck that

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whatever that means. In this NIL go era, you're not

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gonna see this anymore. You're gonna see something downscale to it,

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where you can still pull off good recruiting classes through

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the portal through high school, get shoot your shot and

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get higher star guys, but you're not going to get

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this kind of collective talent there. So it depends on

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how everybody handles things moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Talking from Texas Tech Football with Texas Tech Insider here

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on your Utah ESPN Radio Network. Nathan Geese of the

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Lembic Avalanche Journal, Get your prep getting you're ready for

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this Meal your Texas Tech next up? From a health standpoint,

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how healthy is Texas Tech? We saw the injury port

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last night. How'd you grate it? How would you evaluate it?

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The overall health of Tech, They're.

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Speaker 3: About as healthy as they've been all year. The one

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big injury that they have had this year go back

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to the preseason. They lost running back Quinton Joyner for

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the season before they could even get anywhere. But they

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were going to go with a three running back committee.

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that probably works better for him. With Cam Dickey and

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Jacoby Williams. They've both been very effective in their roles.

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He got banged up in the Kansas game. He had

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surgery on his ankle and he's been out for the

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last three games. This will be his fourth straight in

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a row that he's missed. But they're hoping to get

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him back for the postseason, and the thing is he don't.

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He was really good.

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Speaker 2: Is a really.

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Speaker 3: Important presence like bocally and maturity wise, but production wise.

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AJ Holmes was backing them up. He was a starter

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at Houston. He was an All Conference player at Houston

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last year. He stepped in and they hadn't missed a beat.

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It's just kind of that that they were talking about

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before the season, really shining through their health wives. Beyond that,

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you're always worried about Baron Morton. He's gotten hurt in

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pretty much every game in some aspect or another. But

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he looked really good after chaking out some cob webs

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against Kansas State last week. So what you really need

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to do now is make sure he's healthy come out

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of every game, especially since you don't have backup quarterback

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you know, injury bugs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Texas deck is going on what six

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straight weeks without a buy?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that all? It all impactful?

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Speaker 3: I think it is because of where their open dates

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came this year. It was right after the first conference

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game against Utah and then they their last one is

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right before the season finale, So it's weird timing of

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how their tenants Bay style. So you're going through this

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big stretch of playing games, don't have that break, and

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they keep getting amped up in pressure and intensity and

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importance every week. So I think they're very much looking

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forward to getting to that open date. But it's that

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also at a weird time where like say, if they

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don't make the Baseball championship game, it's kind of weird

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then you just got to wait for wherever you go

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in postseason wise. But if they do make the Baseball

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championship game, they're going to see that as beneficial to

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have that open date pretty close to that conference title game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an intriguing time in the Big Twelve, no

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doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: And this is the most intriguing game. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of hype surrounding the Texas Tech Utah

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game with everything that occurred in preparation for it. Texas

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have to wonder what happened, How did it happen?

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Speaker 2: How did they lose to the so on the road

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Speaker 3: One of the things one of the kind of narratives

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around Texas Tech this year, at least from the national perspective,

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is that because they're watching Tech more this year, they're

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notice they noticed something where Baron Morton got hurt in

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the season over, so he was dinged up already. Will

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Utah game he went out with the concussion and Will

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gap and come away with the win. And that led

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a lot of people to say, well, maybe this Will

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he the offense. The offense does have another gear with

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him because of his legs. That's something they don't want

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Baron dat to do because he has been so injury

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prone and he's just not the most mobile guy. But

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what they were kind of lacking is there's a reason

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why they brought Baron back in the first place. If

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they thought Will was better, they would have said Baron,

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and we love you, but we're going to go on

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with this other guy. They did this exact same thing

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with Tyler Shuck the year before. They are and not

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afraid to make that decision. But they brought Morton back

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for a reason, and the reason is he has all

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of this experience, he knows what he's doing, he's got

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the body type for it to handle big time throws

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and can handle the nix and things that he gets

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throughout the year. And then will Ham is now out

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for the year, suffered a torn acl against Oklahoma State.

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now that's not even a conversation point. But Morton has

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gotten hurt throughout the year, and if he gets hurt again,

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your backup is now Mitch griffis wake Forest transfer who

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wasn't even playing football last year. The conversation becomes very

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different if Morton has to leave or he can't come

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back for anything. So a lot of this now, a

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lot of it ran on Morton's shoulders being with. Now

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Speaker 2: Talking some Texas Tech football.

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Speaker 1: And look, the line is impressively in Texas Tech's favor

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ten and a half. I think it's at right now.

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Speaker 2: Look?

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Speaker 1: And I know Vegas is in the betting game, right,

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do set over unders, they do set lines. Is that

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair in the aspect that I mean,

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just look at the scores Texas Tech has had in

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its game. The only one that wasn't a blowout was

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the four point loss at Arizona State, which kind of

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goes back to the quarterback conversation. Morton didn't play in

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that game. Will Hammond was not good in that game

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until late and they had a chance to still win that.

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So I think if you look at it with Texas

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Tech with Morton is a very different team than Texas

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Tech with Will Hammond, and in the game that he's played,

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at least a lot of they've blown everybody out, whereas

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BYU they've had a lot of close calls, they've had

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a lot of instances where they've gotten down, had to

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kind of climb out of holes early, especially in big

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twelve plays. So I think it's fair. I think it

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is a big spread. For sure. I'm out a gambler,

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so I wouldn't take that dait regardless either way. But

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I just based on what we've seen from the teams, Yeah,

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I think the product on the field Saturday is going

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to look probably much closer. The score could be maybe

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maybe that ten to fourteen point win, but I think

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it might be closer than what the score actually winds.

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Speaker 1: Up being what are the fans feeling, What are the

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donors feeling right now? What's the vibe around even the

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locker room or even the coaching staff. Is there a

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kind of a shuttle confidence? They feel like, Hey, this

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is our game to win. Were favored, we're the top dog,

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We're better than this team.

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Speaker 2: What's been the rhetoric like.

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Speaker 3: They're not taking that this week? They're honestly not. They

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haven't taken it all years. Jolie McGuire said, from the beginning, Hey,

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we know talent why we should be able to outperform

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everybody on our schedule, and to this point they mostly have.

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But they also know if they don't put in that

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work that they get to ego inflated and listening to

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people and let it Like, if they let all this

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get to their head, they could get run out of

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the building. I don't think talent wise, they will, just

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because I think even if they don't play well, they

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can still stay in the game till the end. But

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they know that there are much bigger things that stay

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here than just a game. That means the first conference

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title game, appearance, first time in the college football playoff,

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and there's a lot of investment into making that work.

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And one of the things McGuire keeps touting is the

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reason why it's worked because we have so many old

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guys that I've never done this before. They know what

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they have to do because they want to do it too.

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They want to do it just as bad as all

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the ad and the coaches and the players that came back.

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They want to do it too.

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Speaker 1: Is uh, what has Joey said his coaching staff said

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about this BAYU Cougar football team from the pulpit this

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week and their scattered reports to the media.

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Speaker 3: They're really impressed with their Bockmeier. Obviously, he's the guy

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that you're kind of watching here. I know L. J.

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Mortin is supposed to play. How effective is he going

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to be? That's kind of a question that everybody's going

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to kind of be watching for there. And a lot

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of it's just going to come down to the run game.

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How can how can BYU manage in the run game,

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which nobody does against this team. If they can find

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success in that area, then that changes the equation defensively

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and offensively. A lot of it is these scores become

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a little bit more lopsided as the game goes because

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the defense can kind of just wear down the opposition.

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And happened last week and it's Kansas State. That was

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a pretty close game until about midway through the fourth

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quarter where they just kind of open it up on

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them wind up at the twenty three point win. A

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lot of it's gonna come down to the run game.

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BYU has to make tech respect the run game to

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open up the pass game a little bit. The defense

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has been susceptible to gain be in the pass game

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here or there, especially in the middle of the field.

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As good as Jacob Rodriguez and Ben Roberts are at

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the inside backer positions, they're not great in covering the pass.

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So if b why you can exploit that, that can

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open things up. They've gotten to be in on that

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a couple of times. Most recently that I can think

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of is Kansas and Arizona stake out a little bit

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of that too, just kind of using some motions to

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get guys into more of a middle of the field

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to get away from that pass rush.

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Speaker 2: I like that scattered report. It's a great breakdown.

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Speaker 1: Going back to the injury report, do you feel like

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there's any weaknesses personnel wise on this Texas Tech Red

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Raiders stamp, Aaron Roderick said, there's no weaknesses. There's absolutely

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no weaknesses in the personnel anywhere on the defensive side

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of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Do you see any.

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Speaker 3: Weaknesses personnel wise, No, not really. Every would every position

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I would say is great at least at least it

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b mis Maybe not the strongest group out there, but

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they're pretty solid. The one thing I would say is

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kind of going back to the passing game. Teams haven't

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been able to get into the passing game because of

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that pass rush, and that's where the layer of the

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defense becomes so strong. That's how guys like Jacob Brodrigez

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can have these amazing seasons that probably aren't being talked

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about enough because you got David Bailey or metalw Height

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on the edges. In the middle, you got Lee Hunter

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and aj Holmes clogging that up. If they get to

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the outside and away from it. The secondary is quick

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and long and to keep up with receivers, and that's

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where the middle backers can kind of beast and pick

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up at the running that the quarterback's gonna run at.

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The receivers, they're gonna kind of come underneath.

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Speaker 1: There's not.

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Speaker 3: I would say the one position group that hasn't been

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the best offensive line, but they've also had games where

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they've looked amazing too. It's just been kind of inconsistent there.

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They're dealing with a couple of injuries. They look pretty

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healthy at least based off the injury report from from Wednesday.

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I think offensive line is maybe the iffy part. But again,

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they can go. They can be an air received regardless

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of the game, depending on what happens.

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Speaker 1: Getting to know the Foe Here on your Utah ESPN

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Radio Network, brought to you by Bresa Cleaning Services, we

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have Nathan Geese on the line from the Lubbig Avalanche

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Journal talking Texas Tech Red Raider football game days out there.

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I'm trying to think historically, when was the last time

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game day was out in Love It.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight for that Texas game. Wow, it's

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been a while that happen out here.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the same.

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Speaker 1: I want to say the last time game day was

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in Provo was in maybe two thousand and eight, two thousand,

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I think it was. It was two thousand and eight

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or two thousand and nine. So there's a there's a

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rising of the tides here. These two teams haven't really

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been featured on Game Day, you know until like what

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I mean, almost twenty years ago. The last time around.

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It's pretty pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: I would say, Yeah, it's back to back weeks.

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Speaker 3: They're going to Big twelve destinations. I mean that says

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something right there is that they have to kind of

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look at it, and I think a lot of that

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is kind of coming down to the flattening of the

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talent and the team success is being much more spread out,

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and how where you can't just keep going back to

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Georgia and Alabama every week because hey, sometimes there's a

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top ten game and loveock Texas out of nowhere. You

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got to look a little bit deeper to find these

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big games.

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Speaker 1: Love it Nathan, best way to support you what you do,

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how you do it over there at the Lobbig Avalanche Journal.

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Speaker 3: Uh just see my work at lobigonline dot com. I'd

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say follow me on Twitter, but I just got suspended

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for something, so I'm not really sure if I have

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access to that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, love it online dot com. Check out a colleague,

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Don Williams. He's like the head honcho of a lot

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of the football stuff. He's the encyclopedia if you really

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want the historical perspective and everything that's kind of going

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on here. He's the guy to talk to you for that.

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Speaker 1: Love it man, Well, Nathan, appreciate you hopping on. Thanks

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for letting us get to know the Phoe through your

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eyes your voice. Looking forward to seeing you guys out

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there and love it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks for having me there you go.

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