Speaker 1: Christy Love my guest for the evening. You know exactly
Speaker 1: where you can find her at CLCA sixty nine. Her
Speaker 1: new podcast, in Bed with Christy Love is available now
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Speaker 1: like subscribe this and that. Christy. After a quick misstep
Speaker 1: on my part, I want to apologize for that. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. It's such a pleasure.
Speaker 1: So first question, with all that you do, if you
Speaker 1: had to sum it up, what do you consider your
Speaker 1: job title to be, Because it's a lot yes.
Speaker 2: Pastor, porn star and stand up comedian.
Speaker 1: That is quite an eclectic mix, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, talk me through then maybe let me try and
Speaker 1: organize this in my mind. Talk me through how you
Speaker 1: got the title comedian first, and then I'd like to
Speaker 1: talk about how you got the title porn star first,
Speaker 1: and then later on in the episode we'll get to
Speaker 1: how you got the title pastor. So, how do you
Speaker 1: consider yourself a comedian? Why do you consider yourself a comedian?
Speaker 1: What kind of comedian?
Speaker 2: M hmm, that's a great question. Well, I have gone
Speaker 2: through so much pain and agony and trauma, so I
Speaker 2: figure it's cheaper to go do comedy then spend money
Speaker 2: on therapy. So with all the trials and trivilations that
Speaker 2: have gone through, I guess in the last do you
Speaker 2: have just pursued full I'm not full time, but just
Speaker 2: pursued it. And I tried to do comedy a couple
Speaker 2: times a week, whether it's performing or open mic.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, that's fascinating because I read comedian there and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, to what extent? So you're actually
Speaker 1: going on stage in terms of this, You're not just
Speaker 1: like a girl who's funny with your other girlfriends. You're like,
Speaker 1: I'm a comedian. No, you are really doing comedy.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I have done some really cool stuff.
Speaker 2: I at least perform or get booked a few times
Speaker 2: a month, and I'm still brand news, so it's not
Speaker 2: as much as I would like. But I have a
Speaker 2: comedy coach that I do coaching like once a week
Speaker 2: and it's just so much fun. I in general, I
Speaker 2: love to perform, So being a pastor, a porn star,
Speaker 2: and standup comedian, we're all performing on stage all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, if we had to sum it up into
Speaker 1: one word, maybe that's what you or you are just
Speaker 1: a performer like Y give you, give you a medium
Speaker 1: or something to tackle. And it sounds like Christy's gonna
Speaker 1: jump into that and learn it and if you show
Speaker 1: interest in it, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, Okay, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So then the big question is how did you
Speaker 1: initially get into the adult entertainment industry. What was your
Speaker 1: crossover from vanilla life into this world and was it positive?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: And I don't want you to harp on it if
Speaker 1: it's negative, like I don't want to come at you
Speaker 1: about it, But what was your trip into this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually it's so hard to say without talking about
Speaker 2: my faith because the order is pastor, born star and comedian.
Speaker 2: But just to the honest truth, I was planning, church
Speaker 2: planning and church Flanny wasn't making money. So I went
Speaker 2: on Crank's list and I was scrolling through when I
Speaker 2: found an ad that's it, hey work at home and
Speaker 2: make some good money. I was like click what is
Speaker 2: this about? And I was like, what is this? And
Speaker 2: I remember just looking around this website and I was like, what,
Speaker 2: There's all these women that are in lingerie or they're naked,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know if I want to
Speaker 2: do this. But at the time, it was so desperate,
Speaker 2: and you know, financially, when you're in a position of desperation,
Speaker 2: you know what you got to do. And so I
Speaker 2: that was, I would say, my gateway to the adult industry.
Speaker 2: And then eventually it's so hard to talk about it
Speaker 2: without the faith, but I got caught trying to you know,
Speaker 2: church plant at the same time and also webcamming. So
Speaker 2: I shut down the church and then continued to get
Speaker 2: into webcamming because hey, I still had to pay for
Speaker 2: the room for a head, you know. And then from
Speaker 2: there I just told my husband. I was like, hey, babe,
Speaker 2: what do you think I want to get into full
Speaker 2: time porn. We're not We're not in ministry anymore. And
Speaker 2: at the time, you know, we had it pretty we
Speaker 2: had a kinky relationship, and so I was like, what
Speaker 2: do you think about being getting to full time porn
Speaker 2: actually going into it, not just webcamming and that's kind
Speaker 2: of the gateway, you know, of me. Like he was like,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, I support you. So I
Speaker 2: was folding my d and I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: do want to do this.
Speaker 1: This looks fun, this is this is again, this is
Speaker 1: a completely judgment free zone. My my rule is my
Speaker 1: rule is just don't be in a room with a
Speaker 1: dog and you're good, okay. But but I have to
Speaker 1: say this, doesn't it seem a bit drastic or a
Speaker 1: bit real bot not like like polar shifting, Like wasn't
Speaker 1: dairy queen hiring for managers maybe? Or like hot I
Speaker 1: guess hot topic would probably put you in the same
Speaker 1: kind of trouble. But it seems so drastic to go
Speaker 1: church to I'm gonna do some kind of porn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's a great question. So the reason
Speaker 2: why I didn't go through that route, even though my
Speaker 2: husband did, is because, I mean, we were so broke
Speaker 2: at the time that our parents were paying. Let me
Speaker 2: just explain how broke we were. His parents are paying
Speaker 2: for a rent one one month, mine was another month,
Speaker 2: and we're still trying to run this church. We could
Speaker 2: not afford anything. They would even help out with groceries.
Speaker 2: And so I could go through the process of trying
Speaker 2: to be you know, we're at a grocery store or
Speaker 2: you know, whatever other jobs are there. But the process
Speaker 2: to go through that is you have to apply, you
Speaker 2: wait until they call you. You then have to do
Speaker 2: an interview, and when you do, you're competing against all
Speaker 2: these people. Then you wait until they call you back
Speaker 2: to see if you made it in the finals, and
Speaker 2: then you just hope and pray that you just get booked.
Speaker 2: You usually don't go through the process of hey, I
Speaker 2: need a job, like right now, because if I don't
Speaker 2: get a job right now, then my parents are gonna
Speaker 2: have to pay for another month. So I need something now.
Speaker 2: So well, Kim, provided I need a job right now, Okay,
Speaker 2: just fill out this form, give me a couple hours
Speaker 2: to verify you're eighteen and over, and boom you can
Speaker 2: start working. Yes, great deal, all right.
Speaker 1: So it was it was immediate then, But let me ask,
Speaker 1: Let me ask this was there. Maybe you said your
Speaker 1: relationship you had, you know, you had been a little
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what term you used. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say freaky if that's not what you said.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: Non conventional. Let's say, let's put it that way. Did that?
Speaker 1: And I know there's so many different branches and everything else,
Speaker 1: But was this always a little bit in you, like
Speaker 1: maybe like, yes, you have your religious side and you
Speaker 1: believe in that and it's strong with you, but maybe
Speaker 1: there's a little part where you're like, I am a
Speaker 1: little hyper sexual and when this comes along, yes, I
Speaker 1: can wait for the process over here and this and that,
Speaker 1: this is pretty immediate. I can do this right now,
Speaker 1: and I really don't mind doing it. Was that ever
Speaker 1: a consideration for you that.
Speaker 2: To be honestly truthful, No, I was not even a
Speaker 2: kinky kind of person at all.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: What opened that side of me was actually webcamming and
Speaker 2: the possibilities and all that stuff. So backtrack, I was,
Speaker 2: you know, I was molested and raped, you know, as
Speaker 2: in my child and adolescents, and so every time I
Speaker 2: had any type of sexual interaction in my mind, I
Speaker 2: correlated that with pain, and so I wish I could say,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I was just like this franky person.
Speaker 2: But the truth is, my story is completely different. I
Speaker 2: started webcamming, and you know, I did so well because
Speaker 2: people saw how innocent I was. They were like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, this girl is like, she doesn't even know
Speaker 2: what anything is, and that was so hot for all
Speaker 2: these men seeing like this girl next door she doesn't
Speaker 2: know what she's doing. So I did really well as
Speaker 2: a webcam model, but I started to see a shift
Speaker 2: go go plummet down and I ended up having like
Speaker 2: a webcam mentor and she's like, you need to learn
Speaker 2: to actually be authentically horny, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: didn't know how to correlate, how to be that. I
Speaker 2: was just acting all the time because I did not
Speaker 2: enjoy it at all. I was just doing it for
Speaker 2: the money at the time. And when I started discovering like, okay,
Speaker 2: I had to learn to enjoy myself and my own body.
Speaker 2: And when I started doing that, I started really enjoying
Speaker 2: myself and then my husband, and then that open doors
Speaker 2: of like kind of being a little bit more explorative,
Speaker 2: you know, unconventional. So people say, oh, webcamming or you know,
Speaker 2: don't work destroys people, and my story is like no,
Speaker 2: it actually was so healing and it was very healthy
Speaker 2: for me because it liberated all the past traumas that
Speaker 2: I went through and shifted my mindsets to from being
Speaker 2: this is painful, this is bad, and even religious, and
Speaker 2: you know, religion tells you it's so bad, you're sinful,
Speaker 2: You're it's like the preach like it's an unforgivable sin.
Speaker 2: If you are in this industry, you're lost your salvation.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like that's how they preach. And and
Speaker 2: I realized, you know what it did the opposite for me.
Speaker 2: It healed me. It healed me of my trauma. It
Speaker 2: healed my relationship with my husband. So many men are
Speaker 2: out there cheating on their wives, and I'm sorry to say,
Speaker 2: because their wives are not, you know, being as sexual
Speaker 2: as they should be. So of course a human being,
Speaker 2: a human man is a horn like born horny. And
Speaker 2: so they go out and they they need release some
Speaker 2: other way if they're not being taken care of at home.
Speaker 2: And I know that's gonna piss off a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of women. But I talked to a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: cheating men, and a lot of them say, hey, I
Speaker 2: love my wives, but you know, after they had a baby,
Speaker 2: she just she just stopped and he needed an outlet.
Speaker 2: And so for me, I just felt like for my marriage,
Speaker 2: it has we have so much trust. We It healed
Speaker 2: me you know, we have so much love, our our
Speaker 2: intimate life is so freaking amazing, you know, And uh,
Speaker 2: I just I feel like for me it was overall
Speaker 2: a healing thing. Now, what do I say everyone should
Speaker 2: go through the adult industry. It's so healthy. I do
Speaker 2: see a damaging part of it, And I believe that's
Speaker 2: where people's journey and their own conviction everyone walks through
Speaker 2: out how they should live. Right, Like some people they
Speaker 2: shouldn't drink alcohol because they're addictive to they have an
Speaker 2: addictive personality. There's people out there who can drink a
Speaker 2: glass of wine and they're totally fine. So I feel
Speaker 2: like everyone has their own convictions and what is healthy
Speaker 2: for them and what is not. And I know that
Speaker 2: many people might look at me and be like, dude,
Speaker 2: I've never heard that adult or could heal someone never
Speaker 2: heard that story. But for my reality, that's the honest truth.
Speaker 1: Well, you know who says that is people who've never
Speaker 1: done adult work. You know a lot of people tell
Speaker 1: you all the shame you should feel, or the anger
Speaker 1: you should feel, or this and that, having never walked
Speaker 1: in your shoes. So I would say, as long as
Speaker 1: it's not destructive to other people, whatever you can do
Speaker 1: in life to heal yourself from such trauma you had
Speaker 1: at some point? Doesn't that make sense? And why should
Speaker 1: not that you do obviously, But why should anybody in
Speaker 1: life worry about the judgment of other people who, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, aren't the ones given the
Speaker 1: responsibility of make you feel happy, make you feel human again?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: But but but I will say this, what piece of
Speaker 1: it can you give any piece of advice to any
Speaker 1: newer performer? I have a lot of newer performers that
Speaker 1: listen to the show and and check it out because
Speaker 1: they want to come on eventually, And this and that
Speaker 1: is there any advice you can give to any younger
Speaker 1: girls getting into it how to know if it is right?
Speaker 1: And again that is completely subjective to different people. But
Speaker 1: for you, did it click at some point? Like you said,
Speaker 1: you went in scared, You went in a little unsure
Speaker 1: of what to do, and then eventually it clicked. What
Speaker 1: was that? Was it a scene that you did where
Speaker 1: you went this just felt right? Was it something you
Speaker 1: did while camming where you just went that's it?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: This is how this is how I feel horny. Now,
Speaker 1: this is how I feel aroused.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that if you treat this as a
Speaker 2: business and you don't treat it as this is something
Speaker 2: that is here to fulfill me, that's when it becomes
Speaker 2: healthy or unhealthy, just like any under entertainment or in
Speaker 2: any social media influencer. And what I mean by this
Speaker 2: is that I'm going to give an example because I
Speaker 2: see this also in a lot of social media influencers.
Speaker 2: Like there was this woman who had millions and millions
Speaker 2: of followers and she's so famous. She was a big
Speaker 2: time TikToker, and everywhere we would go, everyone would stop
Speaker 2: and be like, oh my god, I can't believe it's you,
Speaker 2: right because she was so big, but she dealt with
Speaker 2: a lot of mental issues and she started spiraling, spiraling
Speaker 2: down even further because her validation was the praise from people.
Speaker 2: That's what made her confident. That's what made her feel
Speaker 2: uh whole, Yes, yeah, whole. But see, I will say
Speaker 2: that is a very very bad reason to become a
Speaker 2: social media influencer. And the reason why is because when
Speaker 2: people praise you, you're like, hey, I'm on top of
Speaker 2: the roof. But let me tell you, when not everyone's
Speaker 2: gonna like you, there's gonna be people out there who
Speaker 2: are gonna hate you, that are gonna bash you. They're gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, do TikTok videos about you, and you know,
Speaker 2: talk crap and make up crap and try to stalk you.
Speaker 2: And so it brought down her mentality so low. And
Speaker 2: you see a lot of people that they and sometimes
Speaker 2: it's so bad they that they even end their life
Speaker 2: because they cannot handle the pressure. And so, whether you're
Speaker 2: an adults worker, you're a famous uh social media influencer,
Speaker 2: if your motive is for let me fulfill myself, let
Speaker 2: me fill my whole, then whether your reason is the
Speaker 2: affirmation of people, whether it's money, whatever it is, is
Speaker 2: going to control you and will be pretty much your god.
Speaker 2: But if you look at as this my motive is,
Speaker 2: this is my business, You're going to look beyond like
Speaker 2: how can I impact other people's lives out whether I'm
Speaker 2: gonna My perspective is that if people talk crap about you,
Speaker 2: it's not going to affect you. If people praise you,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna affect you. If money comes in, it's
Speaker 2: not gonna affect you. If money comes is a low season,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna affect you. Because your your motive is
Speaker 2: not about those things that are kind of controlling your life.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm making sense.
Speaker 1: That makes total That makes total sense to me. I've
Speaker 1: been playing around with this stupid analogy in my head
Speaker 1: and I couldn't figure out if it made sense or not.
Speaker 1: It's like when you if you drive one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour, Okay, there's an exhilaration and joy, you know,
Speaker 1: but that can't be your only joy and exhilaration in life.
Speaker 1: Because you got to turn off the highway at some
Speaker 1: point point right, you have to go a residential road.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to drive twenty five. So make it
Speaker 1: so you just enjoy the act of driving. If you're
Speaker 1: able to make it so, you enjoy it. In this analogy,
Speaker 1: enjoy the act of driving, and when it hits one hundred,
Speaker 1: you can go, this is very nice. And when you're
Speaker 1: doing twenty five, you go, this is nice too. I
Speaker 1: enjoy this. That was kind of the analogy I was
Speaker 1: putting together. If if you base your life on stats,
Speaker 1: or on achievements, or on this and that, rather than
Speaker 1: just putting in the work you feel like you are
Speaker 1: capable of putting in, it can really only end. Bad
Speaker 1: stats stop. At some point people drop off. You are
Speaker 1: old not you somebody. You are old news at some point,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to either reinvent or accept your
Speaker 1: new position in this next tier down. I hate to
Speaker 1: say that, I don't mean it like that.
Speaker 2: But right it's really yeah, yeah. And so I would
Speaker 2: say to any new person, and even every new person
Speaker 2: that comes up to me that says should I go
Speaker 2: into it or not? I always say, what is your motive?
Speaker 2: And make sure your motive is not is beyond yourself.
Speaker 2: So when it comes to business, it's like, my motive
Speaker 2: in general is like how can I impact at least
Speaker 2: one person a day? And so like right now as
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, as a businesswoman, I'm like, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: make money, and my goal is I want me hopefully
Speaker 2: this year that I want to be able to have
Speaker 2: one time, full employee where she you know, I can pay,
Speaker 2: I'm able to help her pay for the roof over
Speaker 2: her head, live a comfortable life. She's she's spoken to
Speaker 2: me that she hopes to one day go back to college,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I got to work my plucking ass
Speaker 2: off so that not only for me, but I can
Speaker 2: be a blessing to her and her life and her future,
Speaker 2: and so in everything we do, if your mindset is
Speaker 2: what can I do for others with what I got?
Speaker 2: Even in my fame, I'm like, Okay, I want to
Speaker 2: today maybe go on live and hopefully speak some word
Speaker 2: of encouragement to someone. And it's like, Lord, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna elevate me, elevate me so I can impact more
Speaker 2: people's lives. And if I have that mindset, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter who hates me, who loves me, how much money
Speaker 2: comes in, how much money you know. Obviously, yeah we
Speaker 2: do get affected at times, but I make sure that
Speaker 2: my motive. If I as long as I focus on
Speaker 2: my motive and my reason, I can stay strong. I
Speaker 2: could keep persevering and I can keep running after and
Speaker 2: I want to feel like giving up or being drained.
Speaker 1: And that's what we have to fight every day, is
Speaker 1: by That's what I fight every day, is am I
Speaker 1: too drained to do this? And you have to go No,
Speaker 1: I'm not physically drained. Mentally, I can push myself into
Speaker 1: it and figure out and then you start doing it
Speaker 1: and you feel joy. You go, this is what I
Speaker 1: want it to do. I'm glad I push myself to
Speaker 1: do this. Let's talk about your podcast, in Bed with
Speaker 1: Christy Love, available on YouTube and everywhere else. Right, if
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Speaker 1: people are starting podcasts. I started a podcast late. I
Speaker 1: started covid is what we started with this, and I
Speaker 1: originally had a co host and I decided to keep going.
Speaker 1: But I've wanted to do podcasting since Joe Rogan episode
Speaker 1: number thirty eight. He's on episode almost twenty five hundred now,
Speaker 1: and back then I went, my friends are funny enough,
Speaker 1: I can do this, and we never did. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you, with everybody starting podcast now, what is
Speaker 1: going to set yours apart? What are you bringing to
Speaker 1: You're bringing Christy Love to it, which is a huge
Speaker 1: bump right off the bat because you're an amazing person
Speaker 1: with amazing stories. But are you doing what is the
Speaker 1: mission of this podcast? What is your hope? Is it
Speaker 1: kind of what you said there, to spread knowledge? Is
Speaker 1: it to express yourself on a daily basis? Are you
Speaker 1: tackling like done daily news type topics? What is in
Speaker 1: Bed with Christy Love going to be to show.
Speaker 2: People that we're human and I have been judged a lot,
Speaker 2: and so I am giving out my story and I
Speaker 2: am also interviewing very many people, a lot of people
Speaker 2: from adult you know, sex workers to comedians to politicians
Speaker 2: to actors, and I want people to see these people
Speaker 2: and know that they're human side. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: I love this show The Boys like Warfront. It's like,
Speaker 2: you see these superheroes, You're like, oh my god, Homelander
Speaker 2: is so amazing, but then when you watch this show,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this man is a wacko. There's something
Speaker 2: behind him. But not just saying that, but in the
Speaker 2: I love that show because there shows the humanity of
Speaker 2: these superheroes. And for me, I'm doing it in the
Speaker 2: most you know, obviously uplifting light, not showing the negative
Speaker 2: side of people. But I want people to say, hey,
Speaker 2: we can look at someone and we can see them
Speaker 2: two sides of the story, but let me dig deeper
Speaker 2: into the real story of who they are. And so
Speaker 2: for example, I remember I was in ABNS and my
Speaker 2: makeup artist told me the story that she was doing
Speaker 2: this Talents makeup and all of a sudden, she took
Speaker 2: off her wig, and my makeup artist was done like whoa,
Speaker 2: you're completely bald, Like what the heck? And then she
Speaker 2: uh the talent goes up to her and says, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do porn to pay off my leukemia treatments. And
Speaker 2: so that hit me so hard. And after she told
Speaker 2: me that story, I mean it dug deep because I
Speaker 2: knew how many people judge people and they only know
Speaker 2: one side of the story. But if they heard the humanity,
Speaker 2: if they heard the other side of the story, maybe
Speaker 2: we could have a little bit more grace on people
Speaker 2: instead of instantly judge and hate people. And so pretty
Speaker 2: much that's what my podcast is about. You hear my
Speaker 2: story and my humanity side and the struggles I've had
Speaker 2: to go through. And I am humbled in privileged to
Speaker 2: be able to bring out stories of people who are
Speaker 2: famous or people who have been judged. And I want
Speaker 2: to show you here's another side of this story.
Speaker 1: Dubs and beautiful answer. Can I ask you a question
Speaker 1: and you don't have to give any information? Is and
Speaker 1: this is was that person an Asian porn star? Yes,
Speaker 1: I think I know who you're talking about, because I
Speaker 1: think I saw some scenes where the wig came off.
Speaker 1: I did not know. Maybe I don't know. I ask
Speaker 1: after the show, but I did not know that. But
Speaker 1: if so, that makes me have so much even more respect,
Speaker 1: Like I respected this person as a performer, and to
Speaker 1: hear that that's one that's very strong and powerful. It's
Speaker 1: also very sad, you know, in society at least.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk real quick about the content. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to go from something so serious into this, but
Speaker 1: I do a thing called stat check on here. We
Speaker 1: use the Internet Adult Film Database. It is inaccurate, it
Speaker 1: doesn't include all of your stuff. It's gonna be wrong,
Speaker 1: but it's a nice little benchmark where we can go.
Speaker 1: We recorded it on this day, and these were how
Speaker 1: many scenes he had done and how many people he
Speaker 1: had worked with in this and that at the time.
Speaker 1: So for scenes, I have one hundred and ninety. For
Speaker 1: male talent, you've worked with eighty seven. For female talent,
Speaker 1: you've worked with fifty six. I only look at AVNS
Speaker 1: because there's so many different award shows. But I kind
Speaker 1: of just like to, you know, narrow it down. Three nominations,
Speaker 1: no wins yet, right, correct keyword yet? Okay? I wanted
Speaker 1: to go through a few of your scenes. So here's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna show the audience as
Speaker 1: much as I can, and I'm going to show you
Speaker 1: as my background a couple of scenes. So the first
Speaker 1: scene I have for you here is from Team Skeet.
Speaker 1: This was you with Naomi Starr, Alana bloom A, Crystal Davis,
Speaker 1: and the incredibly lucky David Lee that day. Apparently, when
Speaker 1: you do a scene with multiple women and one guy,
Speaker 1: do you ever get bored off to the side if
Speaker 1: you're not tied into the action, Like I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this picture here and you're all in the action here,
Speaker 1: but at some point you're sitting at that table just
Speaker 1: playing checkers or whatever it is you guys are doing.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? If it's one of those scenes
Speaker 1: where I'm not directly tied in, maybe the directors not going,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, kiss her or mess around with her
Speaker 1: this and that. Do you just kind of just sit
Speaker 1: off there looking all beautiful naked and not doing anything.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so desperately wanting to watch. That's
Speaker 2: the truth, because sometimes, you know, we're forced to not
Speaker 2: watch and act like, hey, nothing's going on. Right. I
Speaker 2: guess apparently that's supposed to make this scene like hotter.
Speaker 2: So that's what's going on in my mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I aboard it all.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I want to watch that.
Speaker 1: The second clip, clip, video, screenshot, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it. I have here from you is from kink. Now.
Speaker 1: Did you have to be slowly talked into bondage and
Speaker 1: kink playing or was that something you were kind of
Speaker 1: excited to jump into. How did you work your way
Speaker 1: up to that? Because and again, and if I'm overstepping here,
Speaker 1: please let me know. With this stuff you said, it
Speaker 1: almost feels like you gained your control back through webcamming,
Speaker 1: but this is again another total loss of control. What
Speaker 1: put you in a position to be well, positions the
Speaker 1: wrong word to use there, But what put you in
Speaker 1: the spot to be able to be comfortable with then
Speaker 1: approaching those types of scenes and being willing to do them?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Actually webcamming really changed my mindset about everything,
Speaker 2: so I when it comes to bondage and all that,
Speaker 2: I actually my favorite fetish is BDSM And I say
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a switch naturally a sub, but I
Speaker 2: prefer to be dominant. So being tied up and just
Speaker 2: fully allowing someone to take it whatever they want feels
Speaker 2: so freeing and refreshing for me, Like just to be like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm giving everything to you, to trust that you will
Speaker 2: read my body well and that you will give me
Speaker 2: full pleasure, and just having that ability really, what can
Speaker 2: I say? It Just it's so freeing.
Speaker 1: Did you did you know your limits already going into
Speaker 1: shooting something like that or was it a process working
Speaker 1: with the director saying I think I'd be comfortable with this.
Speaker 1: Did you have to pull back at all while doing
Speaker 1: any shoots? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one shoot that I has traumatized me.
Speaker 2: Oh man, so this you know one of he was
Speaker 2: a like producer and the actor. He said, hey, do
Speaker 2: you want to do you do needle play? And I
Speaker 2: have never heard of needle play. I was like what
Speaker 2: I was like, and in my mind was stupid me.
Speaker 2: I didn't ask questions, but in my mind I thought
Speaker 2: it was like occupuncture, and I thought, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: that sounds pretty cool, you know, like I'm thinking occupuncture
Speaker 2: all over my little tits and being fucked. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I would be open to that but I
Speaker 2: didn't ask what needle play was. I just assumed what
Speaker 2: it was. So he says, well, before we do it
Speaker 2: on camera, let's just give it a try. I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2: So he grabs a needle. The whole time I'm thinking
Speaker 2: it's occupuncture. He grabs my nipple, pulls my nipple, and
Speaker 2: boom right through the the Yeah, the nipple right, and
Speaker 2: I'm screaming because in my mind it wasn't what I
Speaker 2: thought it was.
Speaker 1: In your mind, you just got stabbed in the tit.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, if you were on the
Speaker 1: street and that happened, that's a felony.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I freak out. I said no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I do not like this. So apparently I didn't know
Speaker 2: that I was traumatized until after this scene because I
Speaker 2: used to love my nipples being played with. Now I
Speaker 2: don't touch there. I am like, I do not like
Speaker 2: to be touched in my nipples. It hurts every time
Speaker 2: someone even tries to touch it. It's very painful. And I
Speaker 2: realize it's from that moment I haven't traumatized, and I
Speaker 2: don't know to reprogram my mind.
Speaker 1: Wow, geez oh, I couldn't even imagine that. Well, let
Speaker 1: me ask you the inverse of that. Was there any
Speaker 1: limit you set early on that you eventually not gave
Speaker 1: in but decided to try a little bit and you
Speaker 1: realized you liked it or no.
Speaker 2: A lot. So I used to I have this rule
Speaker 2: that if I only do what I enjoy as a sub,
Speaker 2: that I will do to another sub when I'm domb
Speaker 2: And so I had I had these submissives who wanted
Speaker 2: me to verbally abuse them, and so I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, let me give this to try. And so
Speaker 2: I had these doms as a webcam model start to
Speaker 2: verbally abuse me. And can I just say, I used
Speaker 2: to be so sensitive. I will cry about everything you
Speaker 2: say one one thing about me, you look at me wrong,
Speaker 2: I will just take it so personal. I was so insecure,
Speaker 2: I mean really really bad until I started doing a
Speaker 2: verbal abuse in webcamming and shifted my mindset to taking
Speaker 2: things personable to getting so horny. Yeah. So it worked
Speaker 2: out perfectly because, as you know, time went and I
Speaker 2: started growing in fame, and I go back to when
Speaker 2: your people love you and people hate you, that when
Speaker 2: people hate me and they talk crap about me, write articles,
Speaker 2: all I do is grab my had tachi and.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I just I'm definitely not a submissive in
Speaker 1: my own life or with my wife or anything. But
Speaker 1: I can't imagine just being mean to a woman. That's
Speaker 1: all the you know, I still hold doors and call
Speaker 1: people ma'am. I've almost called you mam on this episode.
Speaker 1: You're younger than me. I just want to point that out.
Speaker 1: But uh no, I'm glad. I'm glad you learned how
Speaker 1: to process that because I'm still working on it. Because
Speaker 1: I won't say a mean thing to want unless she
Speaker 1: cuts me off in traffic. Then I'm out the window
Speaker 1: screaming you need to learn how to drive, get off
Speaker 1: the road. Shit like that. The third scene I have
Speaker 1: for you here, now, this is a crazy one. Uh uh.
Speaker 1: This is a scene from Girls' Way. Now. I've been
Speaker 1: to water parks before, but I haven't seen anything quite
Speaker 1: like this. You're a full on hydrant here. From what
Speaker 1: I can tell, How did you did you learn how
Speaker 1: to squirt while you were in porn? Or was that
Speaker 1: something maybe you discovered in your life and then you
Speaker 1: were like, hey, this is a skill I can bring
Speaker 1: over to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, webcamming is my gateway. So I was on a website.
Speaker 2: My first webcam site was flirt for Free, and I
Speaker 2: noticed all the top models were squirters. And so my
Speaker 2: story is, I said, hey, I went into my room
Speaker 2: one day, my cam room, and I said, who wants
Speaker 2: to teach me how to squirt? And one of the
Speaker 2: viewers said, hey, I taught my wife how to squirt.
Speaker 2: I could teach you. Said right on, okay, let's do this,
Speaker 2: and so I just remember being in my cam room
Speaker 2: and everyone was like cheering me on. I was in
Speaker 2: anticipation and this viewer just kept guiding me what to do,
Speaker 2: and I was scared that I was not going to
Speaker 2: be able to do it. I've heard all these rumors
Speaker 2: not everyone can squirt. I'm like, what if I can't
Speaker 2: do it? So I just remember ten minutes going by,
Speaker 2: fifteen Eventually twenty minutes went by, and finally I did
Speaker 2: my first let's see, oh one footer, and the whole
Speaker 2: room cheered.
Speaker 1: And now that's a skill of yours. Now you can
Speaker 1: replicate that skill and make it even better. Huh you're
Speaker 1: thrown one hundred mile an hour fastballs now? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, so you know I practice. When you're a webcam model,
Speaker 2: you practice every day, several times a day, so I
Speaker 2: got really really good at squirting and I can squirt
Speaker 2: on command.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking this as a uh, I'm not asking
Speaker 1: this as a recommendation as much as I am just
Speaker 1: wondering your subjective opinion. Girls that are getting into the
Speaker 1: industry now that just jump right on of and again
Speaker 1: you should have that, and you should have all your
Speaker 1: channels set up and everything else. Would you recommend webcamming
Speaker 1: at first so they can kind of get a sense
Speaker 1: and comfort of what people are looking for their specific look,
Speaker 1: what type of fetish or whatever else might you know
Speaker 1: be associated with that. Do you think it's a good
Speaker 1: like training camp for getting into more sex work later
Speaker 1: on down the road.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because it's the safest one. You aren't interacting with anybody,
Speaker 2: and if you don't like someone who's in your cam room,
Speaker 2: you can just span them and you get to choose
Speaker 2: your hours and you're your own boss. And so for me,
Speaker 2: webcamming was one of those things that help me understand
Speaker 2: every single fetish and I felt comfortable because I was
Speaker 2: in my own safe room, rather than maybe you might
Speaker 2: be talking to someone in person and you might get
Speaker 2: creepy vibes or something. Unfortunately, some bad things could happen.
Speaker 2: So for me, webcaming definitely helps me learn so much
Speaker 2: and I felt safe at the same time.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2: And also I feel like as a newly AF girl,
Speaker 2: if you don't have a fan base, you know, AF
Speaker 2: doesn't promote you. So this is the best way to
Speaker 2: be promoted because whatever site you choose will promote you
Speaker 2: and bring fans to you. And that's a good start
Speaker 2: to developing fans and also learning and making money at
Speaker 2: the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense, makes sense, all right. I want to
Speaker 1: move into my part three here, so let me just
Speaker 1: say I went to preschool to eighth grade, Catholic school, Communion,
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. By the way, I didn't know
Speaker 1: Catholics were disliked, or I didn't know Protestants were disliked
Speaker 1: or Presbyterians or anything else. I just I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: we all believe in Jesus. That's fine, right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Then you know, teen years hit and I move away
Speaker 1: from it a little bit. You want to be the rebel,
Speaker 1: you want to say, oh man, I'm an atheist. This
Speaker 1: and that you hit later in life and you go,
Speaker 1: you know what, I spent a lot of time fucking
Speaker 1: pretending like I didn't believe in anything. And every time
Speaker 1: someone got into a car accident, and every time when
Speaker 1: my brother was in the hospital dying, I looked up
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, help please, you know, And and
Speaker 1: I hate to say this, and I will not I
Speaker 1: won't make this political at all. And people can have
Speaker 1: their own opinions and whatever it is. But and this
Speaker 1: will be controversial. I'm sure I don't mean it to be.
Speaker 1: Didn't believe political views, didn't agree with this, this and that.
Speaker 1: But watching Charlie Kirk get killed this year again, you
Speaker 1: can have your opinion about political views, this and that.
Speaker 1: He was a man of God. And when that happened,
Speaker 1: I watched that on Twitter about two hundred times that
Speaker 1: day and I thought to myself, I really can't go
Speaker 1: around thinking he's not going somewhere else after this, Like
Speaker 1: I really I need to hope for for him and
Speaker 1: for everyone else that goes through such tragedy and terrible
Speaker 1: things in life that it's not just lights out, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's always been in my head. So can I
Speaker 1: ask you, how what is what's your brand of Christianity?
Speaker 1: What would it be represented by him. What are some
Speaker 1: of the core, most important morals of it? Because Catholic's
Speaker 1: got all kinds of rules, and my thing's always been,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit him with the golden rule. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be respectful to you. I'm gonna hope you're gonna
Speaker 1: be respectful to me. What are your tenants or what
Speaker 1: do you base your faith on?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm the greatest commandments, which is love God and
Speaker 2: love people, sure at all and how people want to
Speaker 2: elaborate on that is all theological. But I believe in
Speaker 2: God's grace and I believe you know, as long as
Speaker 2: you accept Christ, you know you're going you're going to Heaven.
Speaker 2: That's That's where I'm at. And my job on this
Speaker 2: earth is to love God and love people. And that
Speaker 2: means no matter how messed up you are, no matter
Speaker 2: if you're an adult worker, you're gay, lesbian, you're a murderer,
Speaker 2: you're homeless, your drug addict, it doesn't matter. I'm just
Speaker 2: going to love you where you're at, and that's where
Speaker 2: I stand. And you know what, unfortunately, I don't see
Speaker 2: that in the church. I feel like the unfortunately the
Speaker 2: church is if you don't live by this. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to love you where you're at. Sure, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I believe differently, And I get so many
Speaker 2: people who don't agree with me, but I I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, it's okay to disagree and with each other,
Speaker 2: but let's just love each other because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, where if you're a Christian, you know,
Speaker 2: let's we're all going to the same place.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, And I think that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I got out of it too, is just let's, you know,
Speaker 1: just try and be better people. And again with the Catholics,
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of rules. You got to hit this
Speaker 1: thing and do this and do that and whatever the
Speaker 1: organized religion of it. My thought is always, you know,
Speaker 1: if Hitler confessed before he died, I still don't think
Speaker 1: he was making it to heaven. And if I don't confess,
Speaker 1: but I lived my life really trying to be a
Speaker 1: decent human being, really trying to take care of people,
Speaker 1: not being malicious towards people. I think I'm good. I
Speaker 1: think I'll get in as long as I keep working
Speaker 1: forward towards that. So you kind of touched on it
Speaker 1: there a little bit, but it makes sense, do you
Speaker 1: not necessary? So okay, my question here was how do
Speaker 1: you square it in your mind the contradiction from doing
Speaker 1: adult film and also the church. But it almost sounds
Speaker 1: like you're not a big fan of church establishment establishment
Speaker 1: rather than just the religion and the faith itself. Is
Speaker 1: that accurate or is that wrong? No?
Speaker 2: I love the church. I mean I go to church
Speaker 2: when I have time. I just feel like the mindsets
Speaker 2: of most churches is that they live too much by
Speaker 2: the law and when Jesus came and died on the cross,
Speaker 2: where save through grace, it's you know, So that's where
Speaker 2: I'm at. I feel like the move a big portion
Speaker 2: of it is we've lost the grace that that you know,
Speaker 2: is said in the Bible. So again, I don't hate
Speaker 2: the church at all. I go to church myself when
Speaker 2: I have time. Yeah. Is that the church?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't necessarily mean the church as in the building.
Speaker 1: I mean more the people in organized religions who maybe
Speaker 1: lose sight of the main principles and worry more about
Speaker 1: you know, when I see politicians involved with politics or
Speaker 1: no I'm sorry, pastors or priests or anyone else involved
Speaker 1: in politics or pushing for this, or kick this out
Speaker 1: or do that. I almost want to say, like, go
Speaker 1: back to what Jesus would recommend here. You know, Jesus
Speaker 1: wasn't like we need rest all sex workers, and he
Speaker 1: had Mary Magdalene and you know he cared for her
Speaker 1: and everything else. So I just think what I meant
Speaker 1: by that is not you don't like walking into a church.
Speaker 1: I meant more, it's you have more faith in Jesus
Speaker 1: and God himself rather than the rules and everything else
Speaker 1: that might be set by man. In God's name, I
Speaker 1: would say, is that accurate? Am I crazy? Maybe I'm crazy?
Speaker 1: It's fine if I am.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, I guess I honor the law, which
Speaker 2: you know, that's where all the rules and regulations are,
Speaker 2: and I understand them, and I understand that the law
Speaker 2: is what helps us understand what sin is. But I
Speaker 2: do also understand that Jesus came to fulfill the law.
Speaker 2: So we don't I can't. I don't want to say
Speaker 2: we don't we Well, our salvation is not canceled by
Speaker 2: our actions, right, is what I mean? Do we should?
Speaker 2: We still apply the law? Like and this is where
Speaker 2: I say this, it's on everyone's on conviction and we
Speaker 2: constantly are working out our salvation, and that salvation doesn't
Speaker 2: look like well, if you mess up, you instantly lose
Speaker 2: your salvation. Salvation to me, when the Bible talks about
Speaker 2: that is it's more like you're in training to be
Speaker 2: more like Christ, but you never actually lose your salvation,
Speaker 2: gotcha until you you know? And and what I mean
Speaker 2: by that is that every single Christian, every single person
Speaker 2: on this planet, all has some type of struggle. One
Speaker 2: person struggle might be sexual. Another person struggle might be overeating.
Speaker 2: Another person's struggle could be I don't know, overworking. Another
Speaker 2: person struggle could be unforgiveness with people that their family
Speaker 2: did to them twenty years ago. That's considered also a sin.
Speaker 2: But we're all working out our salvation to go through
Speaker 2: the process of, Hey, I struggle with, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: eating too much, so I'm going to go on a
Speaker 2: diet plan. You're working out that. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, it does. It makes total sense to me. But
Speaker 1: you are a porn star and the first two you
Speaker 1: hit were sex addiction and then overeating, And I was like,
Speaker 1: is she talking about me?
Speaker 2: There?
Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding I'm fucking with you. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Here's a question, though, has has any director or producer
Speaker 1: ever tried to bring any kind of religious iconology into
Speaker 1: any of your scenes. Dress you up like a nun,
Speaker 1: do something like that.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, yes, yeah, I just shot a scene too,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, two months ago and I was like,
Speaker 2: I told the director, I said, I'm so sorry, I
Speaker 2: cannot do this part. And what it was the original
Speaker 2: piece and I'm so glad. Actually these director and producers
Speaker 2: were also Christian, and they they were like, it's okay,
Speaker 2: you don't have to do this. But the scene was
Speaker 2: I played a witch. And when I originally read the script,
Speaker 2: I thought it was like like the neighbor Karen, Like
Speaker 2: that's what I interpreted this this script, you know, and
Speaker 2: they were just using the word rich witch rather than
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was a spiritual witch.
Speaker 1: Sure, okay.
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, so I'm you know, it
Speaker 2: was a scene where so the end of the scene
Speaker 2: that I said I cannot do was they had a
Speaker 2: voodoo doll and they said that I needed to play
Speaker 2: with myself and put my comm on the voodoo doll
Speaker 2: and make it whatever, like I'm casting some wicked spell
Speaker 2: on these kids who decided to trespass in my neighbor
Speaker 2: I mean, in my backyard to grab their baseball right
Speaker 2: after I fucked them.
Speaker 1: Quite the scene there, Quite the scene. So then what
Speaker 1: were you able to I mean, were you just out
Speaker 1: on that? Were they able to adjust and make it
Speaker 1: more comfortable for you?
Speaker 2: They adjusted to more of the interpretation of which as
Speaker 2: an I'm like the neighbor Karen, rather than the spiritual
Speaker 2: being of I'm going to cast a spell on you
Speaker 2: and actually literally have a voodoo doll in my hands.
Speaker 1: I do have. As this follow up though, was it
Speaker 1: supposed to be a Halloween scene or something or was
Speaker 1: it just a random Tuesday They're like, we need some
Speaker 1: satanic stuff in here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See. The weird thing is I felt like the whoever
Speaker 2: is the writer kind of did it mockingly on purpose,
Speaker 2: because the director when I approached her and said, I
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable doing this little line. Can I just
Speaker 2: take this out? And she's like, oh, that's weird because
Speaker 2: they know you're a pastor, And that to me like
Speaker 2: kind of stung me a little bit because it was
Speaker 2: like I felt like, whoever is the writers kind of
Speaker 2: wanted to push me my comfort level. It's one thing
Speaker 2: where you write a script, but if you know who
Speaker 2: the actor is, that's that's a different story.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That again, I'll use the word that that almost
Speaker 1: feels a little malicious, like I want to see her
Speaker 1: say this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But I'm just so grateful because I just remember,
Speaker 2: like my heart pounding, like, oh my God, like I
Speaker 2: read this interpretation of this script wrong.
Speaker 1: Last question I have for you here and then I
Speaker 1: just want to one quick social media thing, But who
Speaker 1: is more judgmental of the other side? Are the porn
Speaker 1: people more against the religious side or the religious side
Speaker 1: more against the porn Let me ask you, like in
Speaker 1: your daily conversation, if you interact with anyone or talk
Speaker 1: to anyone, and if it ever pops up, who is
Speaker 1: more judgmental of the other.
Speaker 2: The religious for sure?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Really, yes, yeah, there are much more. When everyone turned
Speaker 2: against me, it was only the religious people, and I
Speaker 2: went through this really really difficult time where my husband
Speaker 2: ended up in prison, and the only people that show
Speaker 2: no grace, no kindness was a religious people, And the
Speaker 2: only people that reached out to me. Happened to be
Speaker 2: adult workers that said, hey, are you okay? How are
Speaker 2: you doing? And I you know that that hurt me.
Speaker 2: But do I hate the religious people? Know? Because my
Speaker 2: journey is I used to be one until I crossed
Speaker 2: over and became an adult worker, and that's when I
Speaker 2: learned to love people where they're at. And so also
Speaker 2: my story is being a Christian and being also a
Speaker 2: porn star. I realized, wow, now I'm learning to love
Speaker 2: like Christ. He loves people where they're at. But before
Speaker 2: I was an adult worker, I was one of those
Speaker 2: religious people. And I feel like people are scared and
Speaker 2: they judge when they don't know, and so I cannot.
Speaker 2: For a while, I got angry, but I have to
Speaker 2: remind myself I was one of them one time, and
Speaker 2: so I need to show grace because they just don't know.
Speaker 1: Christy Love my guest for the evening. You know exactly
Speaker 1: where you can find her at CLCA six'. Nine her new,
Speaker 1: podcast In bed With Christy love is available now on
Speaker 1: YouTube and anywhere you get. Podcasts links to everything are
Speaker 1: in the episode, description social media all the other fun.
Speaker 1: Stuff head down there and check it. Out, christy thank
Speaker 1: you so much for talking with me. Today it's such a.
Speaker 1: Pleasure it was a pleasure to talk to you AND
Speaker 1: i wish you nothing but success going.
Speaker 2: Forward okay you Say. Lettie