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Speaker 1: Christy Love my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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where you can find her at CLCA sixty nine. Her

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like subscribe this and that. Christy. After a quick misstep

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on my part, I want to apologize for that. Thank

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you so much for coming on with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. It's such a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: So first question, with all that you do, if you

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had to sum it up, what do you consider your

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job title to be, Because it's a lot yes.

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Speaker 2: Pastor, porn star and stand up comedian.

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Speaker 1: That is quite an eclectic mix, I believe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well, talk me through then maybe let me try and

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organize this in my mind. Talk me through how you

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got the title comedian first, and then I'd like to

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talk about how you got the title porn star first,

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and then later on in the episode we'll get to

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how you got the title pastor. So, how do you

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consider yourself a comedian? Why do you consider yourself a comedian?

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What kind of comedian?

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Speaker 2: M hmm, that's a great question. Well, I have gone

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through so much pain and agony and trauma, so I

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figure it's cheaper to go do comedy then spend money

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on therapy. So with all the trials and trivilations that

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have gone through, I guess in the last do you

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have just pursued full I'm not full time, but just

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pursued it. And I tried to do comedy a couple

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times a week, whether it's performing or open mic.

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, that's fascinating because I read comedian there and

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I was like, okay, to what extent? So you're actually

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going on stage in terms of this, You're not just

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like a girl who's funny with your other girlfriends. You're like,

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I'm a comedian. No, you are really doing comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I have done some really cool stuff.

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I at least perform or get booked a few times

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a month, and I'm still brand news, so it's not

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as much as I would like. But I have a

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comedy coach that I do coaching like once a week

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and it's just so much fun. I in general, I

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love to perform, So being a pastor, a porn star,

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and standup comedian, we're all performing on stage all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know, if we had to sum it up into

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one word, maybe that's what you or you are just

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a performer like Y give you, give you a medium

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or something to tackle. And it sounds like Christy's gonna

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jump into that and learn it and if you show

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interest in it, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, Okay, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So then the big question is how did you

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initially get into the adult entertainment industry. What was your

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crossover from vanilla life into this world and was it positive?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 1: And I don't want you to harp on it if

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it's negative, like I don't want to come at you

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about it, But what was your trip into this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually it's so hard to say without talking about

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my faith because the order is pastor, born star and comedian.

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But just to the honest truth, I was planning, church

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planning and church Flanny wasn't making money. So I went

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on Crank's list and I was scrolling through when I

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found an ad that's it, hey work at home and

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make some good money. I was like click what is

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this about? And I was like, what is this? And

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I remember just looking around this website and I was like, what,

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and I'm like, I don't know if I want to

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do this. But at the time, it was so desperate,

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and you know, financially, when you're in a position of desperation,

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you know what you got to do. And so I

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that was, I would say, my gateway to the adult industry.

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without the faith, but I got caught trying to you know,

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church plant at the same time and also webcamming. So

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into webcamming because hey, I still had to pay for

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the room for a head, you know. And then from

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time porn. We're not We're not in ministry anymore. And

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had a kinky relationship, and so I was like, what

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actually going into it, not just webcamming and that's kind

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of the gateway, you know, of me. Like he was like,

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whatever you want to do, I support you. So I

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was folding my d and I was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: This looks fun, this is this is again, this is

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a completely judgment free zone. My my rule is my

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rule is just don't be in a room with a

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dog and you're good, okay. But but I have to

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say this, doesn't it seem a bit drastic or a

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bit real bot not like like polar shifting, Like wasn't

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dairy queen hiring for managers maybe? Or like hot I

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guess hot topic would probably put you in the same

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kind of trouble. But it seems so drastic to go

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church to I'm gonna do some kind of porn.

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why I didn't go through that route, even though my

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husband did, is because, I mean, we were so broke

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at the time that our parents were paying. Let me

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just explain how broke we were. His parents are paying

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for a rent one one month, mine was another month,

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and we're still trying to run this church. We could

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you know, whatever other jobs are there. But the process

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to go through that is you have to apply, you

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wait until they call you. You then have to do

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an interview, and when you do, you're competing against all

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these people. Then you wait until they call you back

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to see if you made it in the finals, and

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then you just hope and pray that you just get booked.

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need a job, like right now, because if I don't

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get a job right now, then my parents are gonna

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have to pay for another month. So I need something now.

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So well, Kim, provided I need a job right now, Okay,

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just fill out this form, give me a couple hours

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to verify you're eighteen and over, and boom you can

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start working. Yes, great deal, all right.

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Speaker 1: So it was it was immediate then, But let me ask,

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relationship you had, you know, you had been a little

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you know, I don't know what term you used. I

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don't want to say freaky if that's not what you said.

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Speaker 1: Non conventional. Let's say, let's put it that way. Did that?

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maybe like, yes, you have your religious side and you

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believe in that and it's strong with you, but maybe

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there's a little part where you're like, I am a

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little hyper sexual and when this comes along, yes, I

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this is pretty immediate. I can do this right now,

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and I really don't mind doing it. Was that ever

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a consideration for you that.

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Speaker 2: To be honestly truthful, No, I was not even a

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kinky kind of person at all.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: What opened that side of me was actually webcamming and

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the possibilities and all that stuff. So backtrack, I was,

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you know, I was molested and raped, you know, as

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in my child and adolescents, and so every time I

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had any type of sexual interaction in my mind, I

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correlated that with pain, and so I wish I could say,

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oh my god, I was just like this franky person.

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started webcamming, and you know, I did so well because

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people saw how innocent I was. They were like, oh

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my god, this girl is like, she doesn't even know

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what anything is, and that was so hot for all

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these men seeing like this girl next door she doesn't

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know what she's doing. So I did really well as

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a webcam model, but I started to see a shift

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go go plummet down and I ended up having like

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a webcam mentor and she's like, you need to learn

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to actually be authentically horny, and I was like, I

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didn't know how to correlate, how to be that. I

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was just acting all the time because I did not

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the money at the time. And when I started discovering like, okay,

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myself and then my husband, and then that open doors

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of like kind of being a little bit more explorative,

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you know, unconventional. So people say, oh, webcamming or you know,

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don't work destroys people, and my story is like no,

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it actually was so healing and it was very healthy

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for me because it liberated all the past traumas that

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this is painful, this is bad, and even religious, and

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you know, religion tells you it's so bad, you're sinful,

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healed my relationship with my husband. So many men are

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out there cheating on their wives, and I'm sorry to say,

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because their wives are not, you know, being as sexual

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as they should be. So of course a human being,

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a human man is a horn like born horny. And

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so they go out and they they need release some

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of women. But I talked to a whole bunch of

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cheating men, and a lot of them say, hey, I

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she just she just stopped and he needed an outlet.

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it has we have so much trust. We It healed

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intimate life is so freaking amazing, you know, And uh,

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a healing thing. Now, what do I say everyone should

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go through the adult industry. It's so healthy. I do

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see a damaging part of it, And I believe that's

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where people's journey and their own conviction everyone walks through

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out how they should live. Right, Like some people they

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shouldn't drink alcohol because they're addictive to they have an

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addictive personality. There's people out there who can drink a

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glass of wine and they're totally fine. So I feel

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like everyone has their own convictions and what is healthy

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for them and what is not. And I know that

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many people might look at me and be like, dude,

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I've never heard that adult or could heal someone never

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heard that story. But for my reality, that's the honest truth.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know who says that is people who've never

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done adult work. You know a lot of people tell

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you all the shame you should feel, or the anger

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you should feel, or this and that, having never walked

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in your shoes. So I would say, as long as

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it's not destructive to other people, whatever you can do

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in life to heal yourself from such trauma you had

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at some point? Doesn't that make sense? And why should

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not that you do obviously, But why should anybody in

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life worry about the judgment of other people who, at

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the end of the day, aren't the ones given the

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responsibility of make you feel happy, make you feel human again?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: But but but I will say this, what piece of

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newer performer? I have a lot of newer performers that

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listen to the show and and check it out because

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they want to come on eventually, And this and that

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is there any advice you can give to any younger

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girls getting into it how to know if it is right?

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for you, did it click at some point? Like you said,

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you went in scared, You went in a little unsure

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of what to do, and then eventually it clicked. What

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was that? Was it a scene that you did where

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you went this just felt right? Was it something you

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did while camming where you just went that's it?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 1: This is how this is how I feel horny. Now,

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this is how I feel aroused.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that if you treat this as a

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business and you don't treat it as this is something

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that is here to fulfill me, that's when it becomes

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healthy or unhealthy, just like any under entertainment or in

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any social media influencer. And what I mean by this

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is that I'm going to give an example because I

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see this also in a lot of social media influencers.

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of followers and she's so famous. She was a big

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time TikToker, and everywhere we would go, everyone would stop

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and be like, oh my god, I can't believe it's you,

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right because she was so big, but she dealt with

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a lot of mental issues and she started spiraling, spiraling

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down even further because her validation was the praise from people.

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That's what made her confident. That's what made her feel

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uh whole, Yes, yeah, whole. But see, I will say

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that is a very very bad reason to become a

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social media influencer. And the reason why is because when

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people praise you, you're like, hey, I'm on top of

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the roof. But let me tell you, when not everyone's

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gonna like you, there's gonna be people out there who

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are gonna hate you, that are gonna bash you. They're gonna,

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you know, do TikTok videos about you, and you know,

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talk crap and make up crap and try to stalk you.

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And so it brought down her mentality so low. And

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you see a lot of people that they and sometimes

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it's so bad they that they even end their life

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because they cannot handle the pressure. And so, whether you're

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an adults worker, you're a famous uh social media influencer,

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if your motive is for let me fulfill myself, let

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me fill my whole, then whether your reason is the

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affirmation of people, whether it's money, whatever it is, is

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going to control you and will be pretty much your god.

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But if you look at as this my motive is,

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this is my business, You're going to look beyond like

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how can I impact other people's lives out whether I'm

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gonna My perspective is that if people talk crap about you,

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it's not going to affect you. If people praise you,

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it's not gonna affect you. If money comes in, it's

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not gonna affect you. If money comes is a low season,

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it's not gonna affect you. Because your your motive is

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not about those things that are kind of controlling your life.

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I don't know if I'm making sense.

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Speaker 1: That makes total That makes total sense to me. I've

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been playing around with this stupid analogy in my head

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and I couldn't figure out if it made sense or not.

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It's like when you if you drive one hundred miles

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an hour, Okay, there's an exhilaration and joy, you know,

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but that can't be your only joy and exhilaration in life.

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Because you got to turn off the highway at some

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point point right, you have to go a residential road.

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You're gonna have to drive twenty five. So make it

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so you just enjoy the act of driving. If you're

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able to make it so, you enjoy it. In this analogy,

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enjoy the act of driving, and when it hits one hundred,

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you can go, this is very nice. And when you're

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doing twenty five, you go, this is nice too. I

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enjoy this. That was kind of the analogy I was

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putting together. If if you base your life on stats,

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or on achievements, or on this and that, rather than

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just putting in the work you feel like you are

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capable of putting in, it can really only end. Bad

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stats stop. At some point people drop off. You are

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old not you somebody. You are old news at some point,

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so you're gonna have to either reinvent or accept your

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new position in this next tier down. I hate to

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say that, I don't mean it like that.

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Speaker 2: But right it's really yeah, yeah. And so I would

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say to any new person, and even every new person

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that comes up to me that says should I go

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into it or not? I always say, what is your motive?

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And make sure your motive is not is beyond yourself.

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So when it comes to business, it's like, my motive

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in general is like how can I impact at least

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one person a day? And so like right now as

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an entrepreneur, as a businesswoman, I'm like, I'm trying to

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make money, and my goal is I want me hopefully

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this year that I want to be able to have

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one time, full employee where she you know, I can pay,

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I'm able to help her pay for the roof over

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her head, live a comfortable life. She's she's spoken to

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me that she hopes to one day go back to college,

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and I'm like, I got to work my plucking ass

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off so that not only for me, but I can

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be a blessing to her and her life and her future,

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and so in everything we do, if your mindset is

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what can I do for others with what I got?

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Even in my fame, I'm like, Okay, I want to

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today maybe go on live and hopefully speak some word

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of encouragement to someone. And it's like, Lord, if you're

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gonna elevate me, elevate me so I can impact more

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people's lives. And if I have that mindset, it doesn't

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matter who hates me, who loves me, how much money

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comes in, how much money you know. Obviously, yeah we

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do get affected at times, but I make sure that

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my motive. If I as long as I focus on

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my motive and my reason, I can stay strong. I

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could keep persevering and I can keep running after and

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I want to feel like giving up or being drained.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we have to fight every day, is

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by That's what I fight every day, is am I

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too drained to do this? And you have to go No,

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I'm not physically drained. Mentally, I can push myself into

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it and figure out and then you start doing it

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and you feel joy. You go, this is what I

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want it to do. I'm glad I push myself to

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do this. Let's talk about your podcast, in Bed with

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Christy Love, available on YouTube and everywhere else. Right, if

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you watch this episode, I'll say and leave a comment

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everything else, head on over and subscribe. A lot of

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people are starting podcasts. I started a podcast late. I

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started covid is what we started with this, and I

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originally had a co host and I decided to keep going.

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But I've wanted to do podcasting since Joe Rogan episode

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number thirty eight. He's on episode almost twenty five hundred now,

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and back then I went, my friends are funny enough,

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I can do this, and we never did. So let

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me ask you, with everybody starting podcast now, what is

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going to set yours apart? What are you bringing to

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You're bringing Christy Love to it, which is a huge

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bump right off the bat because you're an amazing person

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with amazing stories. But are you doing what is the

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mission of this podcast? What is your hope? Is it

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kind of what you said there, to spread knowledge? Is

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it to express yourself on a daily basis? Are you

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tackling like done daily news type topics? What is in

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Bed with Christy Love going to be to show.

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Speaker 2: People that we're human and I have been judged a lot,

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and so I am giving out my story and I

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am also interviewing very many people, a lot of people

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from adult you know, sex workers to comedians to politicians

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to actors, and I want people to see these people

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and know that they're human side. It's kind of like

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I love this show The Boys like Warfront. It's like,

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you see these superheroes, You're like, oh my god, Homelander

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is so amazing, but then when you watch this show,

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you're like, oh, this man is a wacko. There's something

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behind him. But not just saying that, but in the

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I love that show because there shows the humanity of

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these superheroes. And for me, I'm doing it in the

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most you know, obviously uplifting light, not showing the negative

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side of people. But I want people to say, hey,

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we can look at someone and we can see them

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two sides of the story, but let me dig deeper

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into the real story of who they are. And so

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for example, I remember I was in ABNS and my

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makeup artist told me the story that she was doing

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this Talents makeup and all of a sudden, she took

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off her wig, and my makeup artist was done like whoa,

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you're completely bald, Like what the heck? And then she

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uh the talent goes up to her and says, yeah,

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I do porn to pay off my leukemia treatments. And

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so that hit me so hard. And after she told

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me that story, I mean it dug deep because I

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knew how many people judge people and they only know

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one side of the story. But if they heard the humanity,

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if they heard the other side of the story, maybe

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we could have a little bit more grace on people

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instead of instantly judge and hate people. And so pretty

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much that's what my podcast is about. You hear my

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story and my humanity side and the struggles I've had

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to go through. And I am humbled in privileged to

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be able to bring out stories of people who are

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famous or people who have been judged. And I want

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to show you here's another side of this story.

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Speaker 1: Dubs and beautiful answer. Can I ask you a question

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and you don't have to give any information? Is and

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this is was that person an Asian porn star? Yes,

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I think I know who you're talking about, because I

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think I saw some scenes where the wig came off.

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I did not know. Maybe I don't know. I ask

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after the show, but I did not know that. But

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if so, that makes me have so much even more respect,

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Like I respected this person as a performer, and to

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hear that that's one that's very strong and powerful. It's

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also very sad, you know, in society at least.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk real quick about the content. I'm

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sorry to go from something so serious into this, but

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I do a thing called stat check on here. We

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use the Internet Adult Film Database. It is inaccurate, it

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doesn't include all of your stuff. It's gonna be wrong,

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but it's a nice little benchmark where we can go.

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We recorded it on this day, and these were how

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many scenes he had done and how many people he

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had worked with in this and that at the time.

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So for scenes, I have one hundred and ninety. For

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male talent, you've worked with eighty seven. For female talent,

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you've worked with fifty six. I only look at AVNS

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because there's so many different award shows. But I kind

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of just like to, you know, narrow it down. Three nominations,

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no wins yet, right, correct keyword yet? Okay? I wanted

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to go through a few of your scenes. So here's

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what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna show the audience as

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much as I can, and I'm going to show you

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as my background a couple of scenes. So the first

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scene I have for you here is from Team Skeet.

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This was you with Naomi Starr, Alana bloom A, Crystal Davis,

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and the incredibly lucky David Lee that day. Apparently, when

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you do a scene with multiple women and one guy,

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do you ever get bored off to the side if

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you're not tied into the action, Like I'm looking at

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this picture here and you're all in the action here,

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but at some point you're sitting at that table just

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playing checkers or whatever it is you guys are doing.

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What are you doing? If it's one of those scenes

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where I'm not directly tied in, maybe the directors not going,

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you know, hey, kiss her or mess around with her

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this and that. Do you just kind of just sit

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off there looking all beautiful naked and not doing anything.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so desperately wanting to watch. That's

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the truth, because sometimes, you know, we're forced to not

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watch and act like, hey, nothing's going on. Right. I

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guess apparently that's supposed to make this scene like hotter.

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So that's what's going on in my mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I aboard it all.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I want to watch that.

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Speaker 1: The second clip, clip, video, screenshot, whatever you want to

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call it. I have here from you is from kink. Now.

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Did you have to be slowly talked into bondage and

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kink playing or was that something you were kind of

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excited to jump into. How did you work your way

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up to that? Because and again, and if I'm overstepping here,

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please let me know. With this stuff you said, it

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almost feels like you gained your control back through webcamming,

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but this is again another total loss of control. What

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put you in a position to be well, positions the

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00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,640
wrong word to use there, But what put you in

475
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,640
the spot to be able to be comfortable with then

476
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,599
approaching those types of scenes and being willing to do them?

477
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Actually webcamming really changed my mindset about everything,

478
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,200
so I when it comes to bondage and all that,

479
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,480
I actually my favorite fetish is BDSM And I say

480
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:42,079
I'm a I'm a switch naturally a sub, but I

481
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,000
prefer to be dominant. So being tied up and just

482
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,880
fully allowing someone to take it whatever they want feels

483
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,519
so freeing and refreshing for me, Like just to be like, okay,

484
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:01,599
I'm giving everything to you, to trust that you will

485
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,240
read my body well and that you will give me

486
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:13,119
full pleasure, and just having that ability really, what can

487
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,079
I say? It Just it's so freeing.

488
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: Did you did you know your limits already going into

489
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,920
shooting something like that or was it a process working

490
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,319
with the director saying I think I'd be comfortable with this.

491
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,640
Did you have to pull back at all while doing

492
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,359
any shoots? Yes?

493
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one shoot that I has traumatized me.

494
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:43,119
Oh man, so this you know one of he was

495
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:49,839
a like producer and the actor. He said, hey, do

496
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,839
you want to do you do needle play? And I

497
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:54,960
have never heard of needle play. I was like what

498
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,720
I was like, and in my mind was stupid me.

499
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,519
I didn't ask questions, but in my mind I thought

500
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:06,559
it was like occupuncture, and I thought, oh, you know,

501
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,960
that sounds pretty cool, you know, like I'm thinking occupuncture

502
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,160
all over my little tits and being fucked. I'm like, yeah,

503
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:17,480
I think I would be open to that but I

504
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:20,880
didn't ask what needle play was. I just assumed what

505
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,960
it was. So he says, well, before we do it

506
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,240
on camera, let's just give it a try. I'm like, okay.

507
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:32,279
So he grabs a needle. The whole time I'm thinking

508
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:37,000
it's occupuncture. He grabs my nipple, pulls my nipple, and

509
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:43,799
boom right through the the Yeah, the nipple right, and

510
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,279
I'm screaming because in my mind it wasn't what I

511
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:49,920
thought it was.

512
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,559
Speaker 1: In your mind, you just got stabbed in the tit.

513
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,680
I mean, like, you know, if you were on the

514
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,200
street and that happened, that's a felony.

515
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I freak out. I said no, no, no, no, no,

516
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:06,240
I do not like this. So apparently I didn't know

517
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:10,880
that I was traumatized until after this scene because I

518
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,119
used to love my nipples being played with. Now I

519
00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:19,759
don't touch there. I am like, I do not like

520
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,640
to be touched in my nipples. It hurts every time

521
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,799
someone even tries to touch it. It's very painful. And I

522
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,039
realize it's from that moment I haven't traumatized, and I

523
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:33,720
don't know to reprogram my mind.

524
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: Wow, geez oh, I couldn't even imagine that. Well, let

525
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,720
me ask you the inverse of that. Was there any

526
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:45,319
limit you set early on that you eventually not gave

527
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,160
in but decided to try a little bit and you

528
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:49,839
realized you liked it or no.

529
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:59,039
Speaker 2: A lot. So I used to I have this rule

530
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,799
that if I only do what I enjoy as a sub,

531
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,359
that I will do to another sub when I'm domb

532
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:13,160
And so I had I had these submissives who wanted

533
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,640
me to verbally abuse them, and so I was like,

534
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,000
you know, let me give this to try. And so

535
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:25,559
I had these doms as a webcam model start to

536
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,359
verbally abuse me. And can I just say, I used

537
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,839
to be so sensitive. I will cry about everything you

538
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,720
say one one thing about me, you look at me wrong,

539
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,039
I will just take it so personal. I was so insecure,

540
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:43,400
I mean really really bad until I started doing a

541
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,640
verbal abuse in webcamming and shifted my mindset to taking

542
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,720
things personable to getting so horny. Yeah. So it worked

543
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,880
out perfectly because, as you know, time went and I

544
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,799
started growing in fame, and I go back to when

545
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,039
your people love you and people hate you, that when

546
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:08,279
people hate me and they talk crap about me, write articles,

547
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,559
all I do is grab my had tachi and.

548
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: I yeah, I just I'm definitely not a submissive in

549
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,079
my own life or with my wife or anything. But

550
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,359
I can't imagine just being mean to a woman. That's

551
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:29,000
all the you know, I still hold doors and call

552
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,079
people ma'am. I've almost called you mam on this episode.

553
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:34,279
You're younger than me. I just want to point that out.

554
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,279
But uh no, I'm glad. I'm glad you learned how

555
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:40,720
to process that because I'm still working on it. Because

556
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:42,640
I won't say a mean thing to want unless she

557
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,039
cuts me off in traffic. Then I'm out the window

558
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:49,519
screaming you need to learn how to drive, get off

559
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,640
the road. Shit like that. The third scene I have

560
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:59,160
for you here, now, this is a crazy one. Uh uh.

561
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880
This is a scene from Girls' Way. Now. I've been

562
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,759
to water parks before, but I haven't seen anything quite

563
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,160
like this. You're a full on hydrant here. From what

564
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:11,559
I can tell, How did you did you learn how

565
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:14,400
to squirt while you were in porn? Or was that

566
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,799
something maybe you discovered in your life and then you

567
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:18,640
were like, hey, this is a skill I can bring

568
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,240
over to this.

569
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:26,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, webcamming is my gateway. So I was on a website.

570
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:30,480
My first webcam site was flirt for Free, and I

571
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:35,559
noticed all the top models were squirters. And so my

572
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,240
story is, I said, hey, I went into my room

573
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,279
one day, my cam room, and I said, who wants

574
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,039
to teach me how to squirt? And one of the

575
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:48,880
viewers said, hey, I taught my wife how to squirt.

576
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,400
I could teach you. Said right on, okay, let's do this,

577
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,680
and so I just remember being in my cam room

578
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,480
and everyone was like cheering me on. I was in

579
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,200
anticipation and this viewer just kept guiding me what to do,

580
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:07,640
and I was scared that I was not going to

581
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,840
be able to do it. I've heard all these rumors

582
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,880
not everyone can squirt. I'm like, what if I can't

583
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,559
do it? So I just remember ten minutes going by,

584
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,599
fifteen Eventually twenty minutes went by, and finally I did

585
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,639
my first let's see, oh one footer, and the whole

586
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,360
room cheered.

587
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,519
Speaker 1: And now that's a skill of yours. Now you can

588
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,280
replicate that skill and make it even better. Huh you're

589
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,320
thrown one hundred mile an hour fastballs now? Yes?

590
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:44,639
Speaker 2: Yes, so you know I practice. When you're a webcam model,

591
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:49,199
you practice every day, several times a day, so I

592
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,679
got really really good at squirting and I can squirt

593
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,480
on command.

594
00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm not asking this as a uh, I'm not asking

595
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,440
this as a recommendation as much as I am just

596
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:06,960
wondering your subjective opinion. Girls that are getting into the

597
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,719
industry now that just jump right on of and again

598
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,400
you should have that, and you should have all your

599
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,039
channels set up and everything else. Would you recommend webcamming

600
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,280
at first so they can kind of get a sense

601
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,599
and comfort of what people are looking for their specific look,

602
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:27,239
what type of fetish or whatever else might you know

603
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,800
be associated with that. Do you think it's a good

604
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,280
like training camp for getting into more sex work later

605
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,000
on down the road.

606
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because it's the safest one. You aren't interacting with anybody,

607
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,159
and if you don't like someone who's in your cam room,

608
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:49,920
you can just span them and you get to choose

609
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,679
your hours and you're your own boss. And so for me,

610
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,320
webcamming was one of those things that help me understand

611
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:02,400
every single fetish and I felt comfortable because I was

612
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,280
in my own safe room, rather than maybe you might

613
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,960
be talking to someone in person and you might get

614
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,119
creepy vibes or something. Unfortunately, some bad things could happen.

615
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,400
So for me, webcaming definitely helps me learn so much

616
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,599
and I felt safe at the same time.

617
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,679
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha.

618
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: And also I feel like as a newly AF girl,

619
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:31,960
if you don't have a fan base, you know, AF

620
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:36,880
doesn't promote you. So this is the best way to

621
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,320
be promoted because whatever site you choose will promote you

622
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,920
and bring fans to you. And that's a good start

623
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:50,199
to developing fans and also learning and making money at

624
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:50,920
the same time.

625
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense, makes sense, all right. I want to

626
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,320
move into my part three here, so let me just

627
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,480
say I went to preschool to eighth grade, Catholic school, Communion,

628
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,360
all of that stuff. By the way, I didn't know

629
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:12,360
Catholics were disliked, or I didn't know Protestants were disliked

630
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,599
or Presbyterians or anything else. I just I was just like, oh,

631
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,639
we all believe in Jesus. That's fine, right.

632
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: You know.

633
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,519
Speaker 1: Then you know, teen years hit and I move away

634
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:25,639
from it a little bit. You want to be the rebel,

635
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,239
you want to say, oh man, I'm an atheist. This

636
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,599
and that you hit later in life and you go,

637
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,199
you know what, I spent a lot of time fucking

638
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,559
pretending like I didn't believe in anything. And every time

639
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,559
someone got into a car accident, and every time when

640
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:44,039
my brother was in the hospital dying, I looked up

641
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:48,639
and I said, hey, help please, you know, And and

642
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,639
I hate to say this, and I will not I

643
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:53,840
won't make this political at all. And people can have

644
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,840
their own opinions and whatever it is. But and this

645
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,440
will be controversial. I'm sure I don't mean it to be.

646
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,599
Didn't believe political views, didn't agree with this, this and that.

647
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:10,320
But watching Charlie Kirk get killed this year again, you

648
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,679
can have your opinion about political views, this and that.

649
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,840
He was a man of God. And when that happened,

650
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320
I watched that on Twitter about two hundred times that

651
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,119
day and I thought to myself, I really can't go

652
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,719
around thinking he's not going somewhere else after this, Like

653
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,719
I really I need to hope for for him and

654
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,360
for everyone else that goes through such tragedy and terrible

655
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,280
things in life that it's not just lights out, you know.

656
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:40,119
And it's always been in my head. So can I

657
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:44,920
ask you, how what is what's your brand of Christianity?

658
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:47,880
What would it be represented by him. What are some

659
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,719
of the core, most important morals of it? Because Catholic's

660
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,159
got all kinds of rules, and my thing's always been,

661
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,639
we're gonna hit him with the golden rule. Okay, I'm

662
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:58,800
gonna be respectful to you. I'm gonna hope you're gonna

663
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,840
be respectful to me. What are your tenants or what

664
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,079
do you base your faith on?

665
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmm the greatest commandments, which is love God and

666
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:17,239
love people, sure at all and how people want to

667
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,880
elaborate on that is all theological. But I believe in

668
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,920
God's grace and I believe you know, as long as

669
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:34,679
you accept Christ, you know you're going you're going to Heaven.

670
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:38,920
That's That's where I'm at. And my job on this

671
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:43,320
earth is to love God and love people. And that

672
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,840
means no matter how messed up you are, no matter

673
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,599
if you're an adult worker, you're gay, lesbian, you're a murderer,

674
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,840
you're homeless, your drug addict, it doesn't matter. I'm just

675
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,239
going to love you where you're at, and that's where

676
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,639
I stand. And you know what, unfortunately, I don't see

677
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:07,760
that in the church. I feel like the unfortunately the

678
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,320
church is if you don't live by this. I'm not

679
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,960
going to love you where you're at. Sure, And I'm like,

680
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:19,639
I'm sorry, I believe differently, And I get so many

681
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:25,559
people who don't agree with me, but I I'm like,

682
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:29,280
you know what, it's okay to disagree and with each other,

683
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,280
but let's just love each other because at the end

684
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,639
of the day, where if you're a Christian, you know,

685
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,679
let's we're all going to the same place.

686
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, And I think that's kind of what

687
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:45,280
I got out of it too, is just let's, you know,

688
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,559
just try and be better people. And again with the Catholics,

689
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,599
there's all kinds of rules. You got to hit this

690
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:53,480
thing and do this and do that and whatever the

691
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:57,559
organized religion of it. My thought is always, you know,

692
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,880
if Hitler confessed before he died, I still don't think

693
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,280
he was making it to heaven. And if I don't confess,

694
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,199
but I lived my life really trying to be a

695
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,000
decent human being, really trying to take care of people,

696
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:13,039
not being malicious towards people. I think I'm good. I

697
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:16,519
think I'll get in as long as I keep working

698
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:19,880
forward towards that. So you kind of touched on it

699
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,840
there a little bit, but it makes sense, do you

700
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,400
not necessary? So okay, my question here was how do

701
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,639
you square it in your mind the contradiction from doing

702
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,039
adult film and also the church. But it almost sounds

703
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:38,880
like you're not a big fan of church establishment establishment

704
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:42,000
rather than just the religion and the faith itself. Is

705
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,280
that accurate or is that wrong? No?

706
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: I love the church. I mean I go to church

707
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,400
when I have time. I just feel like the mindsets

708
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,519
of most churches is that they live too much by

709
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:02,199
the law and when Jesus came and died on the cross,

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where save through grace, it's you know, So that's where

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I'm at. I feel like the move a big portion

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of it is we've lost the grace that that you know,

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is said in the Bible. So again, I don't hate

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the church at all. I go to church myself when

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I have time. Yeah. Is that the church?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't necessarily mean the church as in the building.

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I mean more the people in organized religions who maybe

718
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lose sight of the main principles and worry more about

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you know, when I see politicians involved with politics or

720
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no I'm sorry, pastors or priests or anyone else involved

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in politics or pushing for this, or kick this out

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or do that. I almost want to say, like, go

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back to what Jesus would recommend here. You know, Jesus

724
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wasn't like we need rest all sex workers, and he

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had Mary Magdalene and you know he cared for her

726
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and everything else. So I just think what I meant

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by that is not you don't like walking into a church.

728
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I meant more, it's you have more faith in Jesus

729
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and God himself rather than the rules and everything else

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that might be set by man. In God's name, I

731
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would say, is that accurate? Am I crazy? Maybe I'm crazy?

732
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It's fine if I am.

733
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Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, I guess I honor the law, which

734
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you know, that's where all the rules and regulations are,

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and I understand them, and I understand that the law

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is what helps us understand what sin is. But I

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do also understand that Jesus came to fulfill the law.

738
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So we don't I can't. I don't want to say

739
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we don't we Well, our salvation is not canceled by

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our actions, right, is what I mean? Do we should?

741
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We still apply the law? Like and this is where

742
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I say this, it's on everyone's on conviction and we

743
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,039
constantly are working out our salvation, and that salvation doesn't

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look like well, if you mess up, you instantly lose

745
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your salvation. Salvation to me, when the Bible talks about

746
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,599
that is it's more like you're in training to be

747
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more like Christ, but you never actually lose your salvation,

748
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:49,079
gotcha until you you know? And and what I mean

749
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by that is that every single Christian, every single person

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on this planet, all has some type of struggle. One

751
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:03,320
person struggle might be sexual. Another person struggle might be overeating.

752
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,599
Another person's struggle could be I don't know, overworking. Another

753
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person struggle could be unforgiveness with people that their family

754
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,599
did to them twenty years ago. That's considered also a sin.

755
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:21,880
But we're all working out our salvation to go through

756
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,280
the process of, Hey, I struggle with, oh, you know,

757
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,760
eating too much, so I'm going to go on a

758
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,079
diet plan. You're working out that. I don't know if

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that kind of makes sense.

760
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,079
Speaker 1: No, it does. It makes total sense to me. But

761
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:36,519
you are a porn star and the first two you

762
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:39,760
hit were sex addiction and then overeating, And I was like,

763
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,159
is she talking about me?

764
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Speaker 2: There?

765
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,079
Speaker 1: No, I'm just kidding I'm fucking with you. I'm just kidding.

766
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I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: Here's a question, though, has has any director or producer

769
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ever tried to bring any kind of religious iconology into

770
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any of your scenes. Dress you up like a nun,

771
00:45:59,079 --> 00:45:59,960
do something like that.

772
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, yes, yeah, I just shot a scene too,

773
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:08,039
Oh my gosh, two months ago and I was like,

774
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I told the director, I said, I'm so sorry, I

775
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cannot do this part. And what it was the original

776
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:20,800
piece and I'm so glad. Actually these director and producers

777
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,920
were also Christian, and they they were like, it's okay,

778
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,679
you don't have to do this. But the scene was

779
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I played a witch. And when I originally read the script,

780
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I thought it was like like the neighbor Karen, Like

781
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that's what I interpreted this this script, you know, and

782
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,880
they were just using the word rich witch rather than

783
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I didn't realize it was a spiritual witch.

784
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Speaker 1: Sure, okay.

785
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Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, so I'm you know, it

786
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was a scene where so the end of the scene

787
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that I said I cannot do was they had a

788
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,000
voodoo doll and they said that I needed to play

789
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with myself and put my comm on the voodoo doll

790
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and make it whatever, like I'm casting some wicked spell

791
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,199
on these kids who decided to trespass in my neighbor

792
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I mean, in my backyard to grab their baseball right

793
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after I fucked them.

794
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Speaker 1: Quite the scene there, Quite the scene. So then what

795
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:38,480
were you able to I mean, were you just out

796
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on that? Were they able to adjust and make it

797
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more comfortable for you?

798
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Speaker 2: They adjusted to more of the interpretation of which as

799
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an I'm like the neighbor Karen, rather than the spiritual

800
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being of I'm going to cast a spell on you

801
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and actually literally have a voodoo doll in my hands.

802
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Speaker 1: I do have. As this follow up though, was it

803
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,559
supposed to be a Halloween scene or something or was

804
00:48:04,599 --> 00:48:06,880
it just a random Tuesday They're like, we need some

805
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,320
satanic stuff in here. Yeah.

806
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Speaker 2: See. The weird thing is I felt like the whoever

807
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,159
is the writer kind of did it mockingly on purpose,

808
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,119
because the director when I approached her and said, I

809
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:24,840
don't feel comfortable doing this little line. Can I just

810
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,199
take this out? And she's like, oh, that's weird because

811
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:32,719
they know you're a pastor, And that to me like

812
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,079
kind of stung me a little bit because it was

813
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like I felt like, whoever is the writers kind of

814
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,199
wanted to push me my comfort level. It's one thing

815
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where you write a script, but if you know who

816
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:50,920
the actor is, that's that's a different story.

817
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. That again, I'll use the word that that almost

818
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,199
feels a little malicious, like I want to see her

819
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:56,760
say this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But I'm just so grateful because I just remember,

821
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,599
like my heart pounding, like, oh my God, like I

822
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,440
read this interpretation of this script wrong.

823
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Speaker 1: Last question I have for you here and then I

824
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,199
just want to one quick social media thing, But who

825
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,079
is more judgmental of the other side? Are the porn

826
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people more against the religious side or the religious side

827
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more against the porn Let me ask you, like in

828
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,480
your daily conversation, if you interact with anyone or talk

829
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,880
to anyone, and if it ever pops up, who is

830
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,760
more judgmental of the other.

831
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Speaker 2: The religious for sure?

832
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: Really?

833
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:46,119
Speaker 2: Really, yes, yeah, there are much more. When everyone turned

834
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:51,159
against me, it was only the religious people, and I

835
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,360
went through this really really difficult time where my husband

836
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:01,559
ended up in prison, and the only people that show

837
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:07,280
no grace, no kindness was a religious people, And the

838
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only people that reached out to me. Happened to be

839
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adult workers that said, hey, are you okay? How are

840
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,199
you doing? And I you know that that hurt me.

841
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,840
But do I hate the religious people? Know? Because my

842
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,039
journey is I used to be one until I crossed

843
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:30,000
over and became an adult worker, and that's when I

844
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:33,199
learned to love people where they're at. And so also

845
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,840
my story is being a Christian and being also a

846
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,760
porn star. I realized, wow, now I'm learning to love

847
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,119
like Christ. He loves people where they're at. But before

848
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:48,400
I was an adult worker, I was one of those

849
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,360
religious people. And I feel like people are scared and

850
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,639
they judge when they don't know, and so I cannot.

851
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,400
For a while, I got angry, but I have to

852
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,559
remind myself I was one of them one time, and

853
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,800
so I need to show grace because they just don't know.

854
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,199
Speaker 1: Christy Love my guest for the evening. You know exactly

855
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,480
where you can find her at CLCA six'. Nine her new,

856
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:20,440
podcast In bed With Christy love is available now on

857
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,400
YouTube and anywhere you get. Podcasts links to everything are

858
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,599
in the episode, description social media all the other fun.

859
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:31,400
Stuff head down there and check it. Out, christy thank

860
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,559
you so much for talking with me. Today it's such a.

861
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:37,159
Pleasure it was a pleasure to talk to you AND

862
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i wish you nothing but success going.

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Speaker 2: Forward okay you Say. Lettie

