WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. They have eight different shows on all sorts 12 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:36.119 of exciting topics such as bigfoot, cryptids, UFOs, aliens, and 13 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.479 much more. I even have my own show called Weird Encounters, 14 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.439 where I talk about all things strange. This is more 15 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.280 than just a podcast network. It's a community that allows 16 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.759 me to meet so many amazing people who share their 17 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:51.520 stories and experiences with strange. If you're interested in hearing 18 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:53.880 more of these stories and learning more about the paranormal 19 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.679 and encryptids, make sure you check out the Untold Radio 20 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.600 Network for all kinds of exciting shows. It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog? My dog. We're flying through there, over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence, and name was dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.120 was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:58.640 out here? Did you see what it was? It was 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.400 enough out here. Look, I'm new to one doow now 34 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:02.920 and I don't need anything. I don't want to go 35 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:12.280 out toight. Hello, hit the boddy out here, quin on 36 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.159 out there? I thought of a bench about text nine. 37 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:23.039 I don't know. Easy ann ount there. Yeah, I'm walking right, heady. 38 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.479 He didn't. Thanks so much for joining me for the show. 39 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:25.960 I'm doing the little departure from what I normally have 40 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:28.520 been doing here on Sundays. It's normally been the Alaska 41 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.759 Bigfoot stories with bread, but I was on as a 42 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:35.120 guest over on Tenfoil Tails a while back with Brandon, 43 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:37.879 and it was a really cool conversation. He's a really 44 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.360 cool guy, great show. I had a great time talking 45 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:42.280 to him, and we covered some things that you may 46 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.599 have not heard me talk about in the past, believe 47 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:46.520 it or not, so I thought I would bring that 48 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:48.360 to you here today. It was a really cool conversation. 49 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.599 I hope you guys enjoy it as much as I did. 50 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:53.280 Make sure you check out ten Foil Tails Show Brandon 51 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.639 some love over on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you listen 52 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.639 to this show. I know he will definitely appreciate it. 53 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:03.159 Make sure you stay tuned because I just finished writing 54 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.599 the second book. It's completely different than Sasquatch Unleashed The 55 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.439 Truth behind the Legend. This is actually a fictionalized story 56 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:12.840 that I've written about a Sasquatch that we get to 57 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.039 follow through his entire life and all of the adventures 58 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:18.439 and everything that goes on with his clan, And we 59 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:22.840 get to experience everything from the perspective of the Sasquatch 60 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:24.680 and the story, and we get to answer some of 61 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:27.000 those questions that I think we've always had when it 62 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:29.919 comes to these creatures and this phenomenon. I certainly get 63 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.800 the fact that not everybody is into bigfoot fiction. I 64 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.240 personally am not a huge fan of bigfoot fiction. I've 65 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.199 read a couple of books recently in the last year 66 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.599 or so that I really enjoyed, but by and large, 67 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:42.960 I am a very scientific guy. I like the nuts 68 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.800 and bolt stuff. I like the hardcore boots on the 69 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:49.840 ground research and evidence presented in book form. But sometimes 70 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.960 a great story is just a great story. So keep 71 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.039 an eye out. Dropping in your feed soon will be 72 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:57.879 the first chapter of this new book that I hope 73 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.879 that you guys enjoy as much as I enjoyed writing. 74 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:02.680 But enough of that, I know you guys are ready 75 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.560 to get into it, So all this left for you 76 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.680 to do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. 77 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.840 I'd like to take this time to welcome my guest tonight, Brian. 78 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.480 Thanks for coming on here talking to me. Yeah, man, 79 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.720 I'm glad to be here. I appreciate the invite. Yeah, 80 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.959 I enjoy talking to a fellow podcasters every now and then. 81 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:26.120 Do you want to let the audience know who you 82 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:27.480 are and a little bit about yourself. 83 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.759 Yeah, I am now a full time podcaster. I was 84 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.120 not always that. I did sixteen years in law enforcement. 85 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.480 I was a City of Atlanta police officer. Left that 86 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:38.879 in twenty sixteen. I'm surrounded a little bit. We ended 87 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.600 up moving out of Georgia purchased forty acres of land 88 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:47.399 here in North Carolina with the hopes of possible Bigfoot activity. 89 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:49.680 We'll certainly get into that, I'm sure at some point 90 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:52.720 in time, but yeah, man, I was always interested in 91 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.800 cryptid's Bigfoot, grew up in some haunted houses, had some 92 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.920 UFO experiences early on in life, so I was always 93 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.519 into weird things things and cryptids. And I started listening 94 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.399 to podcasts probably at this point about five years ago, 95 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:08.319 and never listened to a podcast before. Somebody said to me, 96 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.000 I was in music. I'd recorded music, singing bands all 97 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.839 my life and done a couple of albums in the past. 98 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:15.879 I was into production and those kind of things, and 99 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.279 somebody was like, why don't you listen to podcasts. You're 100 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.399 into history and some other things. There's a lot of 101 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.079 cryptid stuff out there. So I started listening to my 102 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:28.480 first encounters based podcasts, specifically about Bigfoot, about five years ago. 103 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:31.720 I really got back into the subject. When you're a cop, 104 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:33.879 you don't go to work every day and talk about 105 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.800 Bigfoot and UFOs. At least I didn't do that as 106 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.120 a police officer, so I was able to rekindle that 107 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.160 old flame, if you will, and my interest in those things. 108 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.319 After I left that job, I started listening to the 109 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.079 podcast and I thought, man, that really makes me want 110 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:52.600 to talk to people who have had these experiences. It's 111 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:55.360 one thing to listen to the podcast and hear other 112 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:58.959 people telling their stories, and the person behind the microphone 113 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.360 asking the questions always things that I wanted to know 114 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:03.560 that never got asked. I was like, man, I really 115 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.040 want to talk to these people myself. So I guess 116 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.519 it was late twenty twenty. I started reaching out to 117 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.959 people in a bunch of Facebook groups about Bigfoot. I 118 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:14.839 was going in the group saying, Hey, is there anybody 119 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.720 that's had experiences, especially in the Southeastern United States. I 120 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:20.560 was born and raised in Georgia. I now live in 121 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.639 North Carolina. I wanted to talk to people who had 122 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.800 those kind of experiences in the areas that I grew up. 123 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.519 Started reaching out to people, and people started responding saying, yeah, man, 124 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:33.399 I live in Georgia and I had this experience. Somebody 125 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.759 was in North Carolina and somebody was in Tennessee, Alabama, 126 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.800 the Carolinas. I said, wow, there's really people having these 127 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.439 experiences in these areas. Because most of the time, when 128 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:47.319 you think about Bigfoot specifically, it's usually Pacific Northwest, it's 129 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:50.839 in California, it's in those areas, but it's not anywhere 130 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.439 in the southeastern United States. But there were people having 131 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.240 these experiences. So I started hooking up with these people, saying, Hey, 132 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:58.839 I'd like to talk to you about your experience. And then, 133 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.839 of course I thought, it's one thing to talk to 134 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.199 them about how am I going to document this because 135 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.839 other people might be interested in it. I might want 136 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:08.360 to go back at some point in time in the future, 137 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.360 listen back to this person's story and maybe compare it 138 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:13.560 to somebody else that I talked to. So I thought, 139 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:16.160 why don't I start a podcast. That sounds like a 140 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:19.079 great idea, But I had no clue how to podcast. 141 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.519 I didn't have any equipment, I had no idea how 142 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.000 to get on a platform. I had no idea what 143 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:27.079 I was doing. So the first couple of episodes probably 144 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.560 i'd say the first ten, fifteen, maybe even twenty episodes 145 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.920 of sasquatch Odyssy were recorded using a horrible free app 146 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.680 on my iPhone to record conversations with people. I tried 147 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.959 to edit best I could with limited knowledge and put 148 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.839 it out there for folks. And like most podcasts, nobody's listening. 149 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:48.959 You see the numbers, you see the downloads. There was 150 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.120 like twenty people listening, and there was thirty, and then 151 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.839 I was doing one hundred and it just started snowballing. Honestly. 152 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.000 I produced the first episode of Sasquatch Odyssy in February 153 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.720 of twenty twenty one, I think mid year. I was 154 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:06.959 probably four or five months in to that first year. 155 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.319 I started seeing a significant amount of downloads. Wes from 156 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:15.759 Sasquatch Chronicles emailed me. Anybody who's into bigfoot and podcasts 157 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:18.079 probably is listened to Wessa's show. It's like the number 158 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:21.040 one big foot podcast in the world. And he said, hey, man, 159 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:23.319 I listened to your show. I think it's great, but 160 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.639 your audio sucks. Let me help you with that. So 161 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.639 we got on the phone. We spent hours on the 162 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:30.560 phone over the course of a couple of days. He 163 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:32.799 gave me a list of things to order, things that 164 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:34.840 he used. I used the same board to this date 165 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.480 that I'm sure Wes is still using and it changed 166 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.720 the show overnight. Audio quality got better the more I 167 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.399 did the interviews. I'd already interviewed people as a cop, 168 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.320 but it's a completely different scenario when you're talking to 169 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.919 somebody on a nine one one call, you're trying to 170 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.000 get to the bottom of a possible crime, or an 171 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:55.240 IDO accident or a domestic violence situation. You're talking about Bigfoot. 172 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:57.679 It's a different way to interview people. That was an 173 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.399 achilles heel, if you will, or a handicap from going 174 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:01.840 into it, because I didn't want to be known as 175 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.679 that guy with the Bigfoot podcast that will interrogate you 176 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.519 about your experience. He's a former COB. He's going to 177 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.000 browbeat you into submission and talking about whatever it is 178 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:12.600 that you think you saw. And I didn't want to 179 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.240 be that guy because I'm not that guy. I was 180 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:16.639 fighting that battle. And then obviously West reached out. We 181 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.679 got together and the IDEO quality improved on the show. 182 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:23.480 And then towards the end of twenty twenty one, I 183 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.080 was working a full time job. I was in retail management. 184 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:29.840 I was running an Iudo park super hub here fifty 185 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.039 minutes or so away. From the house. I was driving 186 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.679 almost two hours a day round trip. I was working 187 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:38.039 fifty sixty hours a week supervising fifty people, and I 188 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:41.240 was miserable. The only thing that really made me happy 189 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.960 was being here on my property, being in the woods, 190 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:47.679 and doing my podcast. We had monetized the podcast. I 191 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.039 had enough listeners that we started monetizing, and it was 192 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:53.679 making pretty good money. I was almost replacing my pretty 193 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:58.159 hefty salary doing this job that I hated doing the podcast, 194 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:00.759 and I just got to this point. I think it 195 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.240 was March of twenty two. I said, if I'm going 196 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:04.799 to do this, I've got to give it the old 197 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:08.480 college try, and I've got to devote full time into this. 198 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.159 So I gave myself three months. I went to my 199 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.600 better half and said, look, I think this podcast thing 200 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.480 can work. I need to step away from doing this 201 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:19.279 retail job. So that's what it did. March of twenty 202 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.080 twenty two, I left that full time job behind and 203 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:25.000 started podcasting full time. I've never looked back. Man, It's 204 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:27.559 been the best decision of my life. I've never had 205 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:29.639 as much fun as I'm having doing my job. Over 206 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.759 these last couple of years, I've started multiple podcasts. I 207 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.960 host four full time podcasts that go out each week. 208 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:39.679 We started a network of podcasts. We have other podcasters 209 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.279 that do shows on our network, and we network were 210 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:43.519 with a lot of people. I help a lot of 211 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.600 people with their shows. Now that I've learned what I'm doing, 212 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:48.600 I'm able to teach other people, and I try to 213 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:51.200 do that as much as possible. I could probably name 214 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.240 five or six shows that I'm sure most of your 215 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:55.960 listeners probably have heard, and I've probably helped that podcaster 216 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.480 in some way, shape form, or fashion as much as 217 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.679 I can behind the scenes to help growth show. Because 218 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.679 a lot of things are competitive, Bigfoot is one of them, 219 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:08.960 cryptids is podcasting can be very competitive. But my approach 220 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:12.720 to podcasting and cryptids research, any and all of the 221 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.320 above is the better we all do. If your show 222 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.320 is one of the best that everybody's ever heard as 223 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.759 far as audio quality and production quality, and it captures 224 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.320 your audience immediately, they're going to fall in love with 225 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.759 your show. They're going to fall in love with podcasting 226 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.559 in general. And if your show is similar to mine, 227 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:31.960 then they're going to search for more because they're eventually 228 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.519 going to catch up in your catalog they're going to 229 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.799 run out of something to do. People listen to multiple shows, 230 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:38.799 so I've always looked at it that way. If I 231 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.120 help somebody behind the scenes and I help them improve 232 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:42.840 their show, very much like Wes did to me, it's 233 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:45.559 passing it on. It's karma for me. If I can 234 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:47.639 pass that on to more podcasters and help them with 235 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:50.000 their show, the better my show is going to do, 236 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.120 because more people are going to be interested. If they 237 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:55.960 tune into a podcast about cryptids bigfoots specifically, and the 238 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.360 first one they land on in their podcast is a 239 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:02.360 crappy show with horrible audio and bad interviews, They're probably 240 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:04.679 never going to come back. So I want them to 241 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.000 find my show eventually, So I try to pass that 242 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:09.159 on as much as possible because I've learned so much. 243 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.919 But that's how I fell into the podcasting thing, and 244 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:12.679 I've never looked back. 245 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:12.840 Man. 246 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:14.840 Like I said, is the greatest decision I've ever made. 247 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:16.879 I've never been happier. Who knew you could make a 248 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.679 great living doing podcasting, writing books, traveling around doing conferences 249 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.120 talking about bigfoot Man? If I'd known this fifteen twenty 250 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:25.679 years ago, I'd be much happier. I'm sure when it. 251 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.320 Comes to podcasting. Know your story is very similar to 252 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.360 what happened with me. I had a weird experience that 253 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:34.399 happened actually got me into the whole cryptidide because I 254 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:36.600 was a pretty much a skeptic. I had a weird 255 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:38.840 experience two thousand and seven which kind of got me 256 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.120 into this whole idea of believing that there's some weird 257 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.960 stuff out there. But I was a musician. I did 258 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:46.600 vocals and a metal band, so I had all the 259 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:49.960 recording stuff for music purposes. I didn't ever do anything 260 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:53.840 podcast wise up until twenty twenty two because of the 261 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.480 band Stuff's kind of just wasn't doing anything with it. 262 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:58.480 Like we stopped in twenty twenty when the whole world 263 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:00.720 was shut down for a little bit. That's when I 264 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.519 started looking into podcasting. I had this great idea that 265 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.600 I was going to start a podcast talked about cryptids 266 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:09.399 and UFOs and aliens and conspiracies and all this other 267 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.240 stuff like I've hat no one's out there doing that. 268 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:15.440 Lo and behold, I was wrong. I come across West's show. 269 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.279 That was the first podcast that I ever really listened to, 270 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.639 Sasquatch Chronicles. So I listened to that, and I heard 271 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.320 someone talk about he'd interviewed that judge about dog Man, 272 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:26.799 and that's where I came from. Is I literally saw 273 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.240 it up for a Walking K nine back in two 274 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.919 thousand and seven, and I never really heard anyone else 275 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.679 talk about something like that, so it really piqued my interest. 276 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.879 And then listen to this show, I come across a 277 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:39.720 couple others and from there it just you know what 278 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:43.039 I'm gonna do this. So two years ago I started 279 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:46.080 the podcast and it's just been steadily growing, so I 280 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:47.000 can't complain either. 281 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:50.399 Yeah. That was one of the things that surprised me 282 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.919 was how many podcasts there are out there. There's hundreds 283 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:57.960 and hundreds of Bigfoot podcasts. Now there's tons of dog 284 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:01.320 Man podcasts. Dog Man was something that was never really 285 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.679 on my radar until I got heavily into the Bigfoot thing. 286 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:07.720 It just seemed to be a gateway drug, the gateway 287 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.879 cryptid if you will, Bigfoot takes you into all these 288 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:15.200 other realms. And started hearing people talking about dog Man. 289 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.679 I've interviewed a couple of people over the last two 290 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:21.759 three years. I think I've maybe a handful of people 291 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:25.159 at this point, maybe four or five people that have 292 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.440 claimed to have some sort of experience with a dog Man, 293 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:29.919 and I'll be honest with you, I'm still on the 294 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.559 fence about it. I don't know what box to check. 295 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.960 I can't wrap my brain around a six or seven 296 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.399 foot tall, upright canid creature that's walking around in the woods. 297 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:46.080 I've always felt it was some sort of misidentification or 298 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:48.480 here's the thing. I'm a flesh and blood kind of 299 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.600 guy when it comes to Bigfoot, and I'm still not 300 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.399 all in on the Bigfoot thing. If people listen to 301 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.639 my show, We're almost five hundred episodes into the show 302 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:57.159 at this point, and it goes back and forth from me. 303 00:14:57.200 --> 00:14:59.480 I get emails all the time. Somebody left me a 304 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.759 one star review on Apple because I still say, to 305 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.440 this day, five days out of seven, I'm still not 306 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.279 exactly convinced that Bigfoot is completely real. I've had experiences 307 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.240 that I can't explain, but I haven't seen one of 308 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:13.480 these things. So until I actually lay eyes on it, 309 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.919 I'm never going to be one hundred percent. But dog 310 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:17.919 Man has been one of those things that has always 311 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:22.080 fascinated me. But there's clearly there because people like vik 312 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.159 Kunduff and others that have dog Man shows that are 313 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:30.279 specific about those encounters eight nine hundred episodes in so clearly, 314 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.480 either there's some sort of mass dellusion that's going on, 315 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.559 people are one hundred percent whole cloth making up all 316 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.759 their stories, or there's something to it. And I've always 317 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.639 said to me, dog Man may be one of those things. 318 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:47.039 I certainly believe in the afterlife. I've had some experience 319 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.799 with hauntings and things in the past in my own experience, 320 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:53.039 personally experienced them, so I believe in the afterlife. I 321 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.320 believe there's something that goes on after we pass away. 322 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:01.480 I think there's something too. Possibly demonic creature are nefarious 323 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:05.279 creatures that are outside of our realm, and it only 324 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:07.600 made sense to me that dog Man, if they exist 325 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.399 and people are seeing what they think they see, there's 326 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:12.080 got to be something more to them than just a 327 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.320 flesh and blood creature, because I can't check that box 328 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:18.519 on how or where they would exist in the natural world, 329 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.399 and upright, nine foot tall eight walking around in North 330 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.039 America is a hard pill to swallow as well, but 331 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.440 at least in the fossil record, there are feasible things 332 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.759 that it could be. People go to jigged alpithecus, people 333 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:37.360 go to Australia, pith scenes. There's all kinds of theories 334 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.120 out there and what these things might be Paranthropus, that's 335 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:42.360 a possibility. But dog Man, I'd love to have you 336 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:44.639 on and talk about your experience because I'd like to 337 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.360 add that to my catalog of people, because again, it's 338 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:49.480 only been a handful of people out of almost five 339 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.480 hundred plus interviews that have made it onto the show, 340 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:55.240 and there's been very few people who have had those 341 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:57.399 experiences of what they believe to be dog Man. I 342 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.200 don't know. It's a fascinating thing man. Again Bigfoot, it's 343 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.600 the same way we know the phenomenon is real. People 344 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.880 are experiencing things. I went out did an expedition last 345 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.079 year with Todd Standing. Anybody who's into Bigfoot probably knows 346 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:14.599 Todd's name. Discovering Bigfoot documentary one of the biggest documentaries 347 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:16.720 in the last probably ten years on Bigfoot, and Todd's 348 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.480 a very controversial figure. I've made no qualms about my 349 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:23.279 feelings about Todd before deering and after going go on 350 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.079 to the expedition, spending seven days with him up and radium. 351 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:28.599 But I had some experiences there I can't explain. I've 352 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:31.359 had experiences here on my own land in North Carolina, 353 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.799 I can't explain. I had an experience when I was 354 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:36.079 twelve with what I believed to be a possible Bigfoot 355 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:40.240 that I can't explain. So it's difficult to be all in. 356 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.599 I'm definitely not a knowwherre as some people say. I 357 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:46.279 want to be a believer because I believe in the 358 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.000 people that I have on the show. Of course, does 359 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:51.319 people that have slipped through the radar If you do 360 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:54.079 a ton of interviews, there are people who get by 361 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:56.160 the gate you're in the middle of the interview. Part 362 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:57.839 of my secret sauce on the show is I don't 363 00:17:57.880 --> 00:17:59.839 do a whole lot of pre interview. I don't want 364 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:01.480 to hear the story. I want to hear it for 365 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.319 the first time when the person's on the show and 366 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:06.400 people have surprised me. The sex with the Sasquatch guy 367 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.599 I had on last year was a surprise. I had 368 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.200 no idea where that was going. Probably one of the 369 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.799 wildest interviews I've ever had. This guy was completely convinced 370 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.799 that he had this experience. I sat on that for 371 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:20.759 months and I toiled over whether I was going to 372 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:22.680 put that out there, because I am a very serious 373 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.880 person in the subject. I want people to understand how 374 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:27.880 serious I take the subject, and I knew that was 375 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:29.240 going to be a hard pill for a lot of 376 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:32.240 people to swallow. But I went to a couple of conferences. 377 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.240 I was a speaker at the Smoky Mountain big Foot 378 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.880 Conference a couple of years ago before I put this 379 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.640 episode out, and I talked to hundreds of people that day, 380 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:43.400 probably thousands who came by my table. The listeners of 381 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:45.200 the show. I had a conversation with him, and I 382 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:47.640 asked him if I put out an episode where this 383 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.480 guy happened to hypothetically say, everybody said, put it out, 384 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:54.200 we'd love to hear that episode. It may be crazy, 385 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.440 you may get some flag, we'd love to hear that episode. 386 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:58.920 So I eventually put it out. But for the most part, 387 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:02.160 it's as mundane as it can be seeing a giant, 388 00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.720 hairy hominid walking around in North America. Most of the 389 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.480 stories on the show that you hear pretty straightforward. Some 390 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:11.240 of them are pretty compelling. A lot of them Arek's geary. 391 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:14.039 I had a guy from fred from Alaska. He's a 392 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:17.720 carry on tribal member up in Dillingham, Alaska. I had 393 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:19.519 him on, did an interview he's been on with Cliff 394 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:21.279 and Bobo. I think Bobo heard him on my show 395 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:22.960 and then they stole him and brought him over on 396 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:26.119 Bigfoot and Beyond. Clip's a good friend of mine. So 397 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:28.279 if you guys are listening, I'm a kid because I 398 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:33.119 love Fred has had quite a few experiences with aggressive Bigfoot, 399 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.079 aggressive Sasquatch in his area up there, and he's collected 400 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:41.119 a ton of stories. He's got a pretty extensive catalog 401 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.119