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Speaker 2: That's right, five o'clock hour, here on a Monday, coffee
Speaker 2: and company, fueled by Thornton's Nick Coffee. Back after a nice,
Speaker 2: a nice week off. Nice to be back, felt like
Speaker 2: it was months since I've been here. And usually if
Speaker 2: I take off for a week, it usually feels like that,
Speaker 2: I guess. But maybe for some reason, maybe just because
Speaker 2: we had so much that took place like we had
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen? Was I guess when I last was
Speaker 2: on the air for today. Of course I've been here
Speaker 2: with you for the last two hours, but that was
Speaker 2: the Friday where the second leg essentially of the Sweet
Speaker 2: sixteen games were to be played, and then we found
Speaker 2: in the lead. Eight was Saturday and Sunday, so a
Speaker 2: lot of basketball and here we are now in the
Speaker 2: National Championship game. A great game it should be at
Speaker 2: least tonight between Florida and Houston. Obviously we've talked a
Speaker 2: lot about that today.
Speaker 3: But then Pat.
Speaker 2: Kelsey landing three portal commitments. Last week, we had a
Speaker 2: tornado a touchdown in Jaytown that as of earlier today,
Speaker 2: the National Weather Service did confirm that it's the strongest
Speaker 2: tornado to hit Louisville or to hit Jefferson County since
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six. Half the city is underwater. Where I'm from,
Speaker 2: where I live. Hope, thankfully we're okay right now, but
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of the area that I'm near
Speaker 2: is not. And Shepherdsville, which is technically my address, i'd
Speaker 2: be a lot well, I don't know. I guess telling
Speaker 2: you that I live in Shepherdsville would be accurate because
Speaker 2: that's what my address is, but I don't really live
Speaker 2: in the area that is Shepherdsville. But the footage that
Speaker 2: you're seeing on the news that is going viral across
Speaker 2: the world is I mean at Salt River in Bullock County.
Speaker 2: I mean there's flood zone there and you can get
Speaker 2: something nowhere near as severe as what we've got in
Speaker 2: the last week or so as far as rain, and
Speaker 2: there's still going to be an impact for that area.
Speaker 3: And man, it's.
Speaker 2: Bad now, So stay safe. I know, despite the rain stopping,
Speaker 2: it's gonna get worse because of the crest and gonna
Speaker 2: it's gonna continue to rise, and it's happening today. I
Speaker 2: mean I haven't checked since the show started, actually, but
Speaker 2: there were some folks near Zorn Avenue near River Road
Speaker 2: that were being rescued from somewhere they were staying.
Speaker 3: So stay safe.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're seeing footage pictures of downtown Louisville in
Speaker 2: a way that I don't really ever remember. Seeing like
Speaker 2: this has led to people talking about different floods that
Speaker 2: we've had. And we've had, I mean I remember, I mean,
Speaker 2: to be flooding around here doesn't seem like an insane,
Speaker 2: insanely rare thing. But what I've seen today near the
Speaker 2: Ohio River in downtown Louisville, maybe I just don't have
Speaker 2: a good memory, but I feel like it's as bad
Speaker 2: as I've ever seen it, and it may get worse.
Speaker 2: So stay safe, everybody. I I hope, hope you're you know,
Speaker 2: there are people who in our listening audience. I mean,
Speaker 2: we have people that listen from you know, all over,
Speaker 2: but I mean, I just can't imagine. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: had my basement flood a couple of times, and it sucks.
Speaker 2: But I also know that despite that happening twice, I mean,
Speaker 2: could have been a lot worse. For us, there's some
Speaker 2: people that lose everything and don't have resources to get evacuated,
Speaker 2: don't have resources to get things moved that you know,
Speaker 2: if you don't move it, it's gonna be ruined. So
Speaker 2: really really awful stuff. And we ran into some folks
Speaker 2: on our trip to we were at Navarre Beach and
Speaker 2: we ran into some folks that were from I don't
Speaker 2: know where they were from. They weren't from Kentucky. They
Speaker 2: were from maybe maybe Pennsylvania. But we were just you know,
Speaker 2: having small talk referencing the weather that we that we
Speaker 2: had and you know how we had a tornado hit
Speaker 2: one of the nights back home, and flooding is an issue,
Speaker 2: and I guess it makes sense like we've had some
Speaker 2: some weather stuff that you don't even have to be
Speaker 2: keeping up with Kentucky to know that we've had some
Speaker 2: devastating type of weather issues, really tragedies, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. I mean, we're talking from ice to snow
Speaker 2: to other flooding to tornadoes. I mean, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: we're not that rare, right, I'm sure that happened. You know.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things like I can't tell you
Speaker 2: which states across the country in recent years have been
Speaker 2: it harder than others with certain things. Obviously, there's there's
Speaker 2: ones that stand out, like what happened in the Carolina's
Speaker 2: not that long ago, where you know that was a
Speaker 2: real massive devastation as far as just loss of life.
Speaker 2: And obviously, I mean there's interstates that people have driven
Speaker 2: on for thirty forty years that got that you know,
Speaker 2: aren't there anymore. So I don't act like we're getting
Speaker 2: worse than anybody else. But when you do hear people
Speaker 2: that aren't from or familiar with your home state or
Speaker 2: your area, and the first thing they think of is that,
Speaker 2: you know, you guys got it again. Man, you've had
Speaker 2: some really bad luck. And I'm like, yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: you're right. So stay safe, everybody. We were able to
Speaker 2: avoid any you know, real crazy weather on our trip.
Speaker 2: But we got a text that came in towards the
Speaker 2: end of the four o'clock and it's the Ellen in
Speaker 2: Federal Credit Union text line if you guys would like
Speaker 2: to text in five oh two four three eight ninety
Speaker 2: seventy three again five oh two four three eight ninety
Speaker 2: seventy three.
Speaker 3: Oh, you've gotten so batter all I did on vacation.
Speaker 2: Just say it over and over, Ellen in Federal Credit
Speaker 2: Union text line five oh two four three eight ninety
Speaker 2: seventy three.
Speaker 3: Baby, it's just it's it's it's routine for me now.
Speaker 2: But somebody made a comment about how they they're surprised
Speaker 2: that I just didn't spend the whole two first two
Speaker 2: hours complaining about the weather down there, because they were
Speaker 2: in Destin, which isn't far from where we were, and
Speaker 2: they were talking about the weather.
Speaker 3: And look, oh, I'm glad you.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that you were kind of joking,
Speaker 2: because you know, you did have me a little bit insecure,
Speaker 2: because you're right, I do sometimes, you know, complain about
Speaker 2: things that really aren't worth complaining about. But if anything,
Speaker 2: I'm an open book. I'm honest with you. I share
Speaker 2: my thoughts and you know, things that I think are
Speaker 2: an issue that a lot of people would never think
Speaker 2: is an issue. So, yeah, the weather didn't suck, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't great, Like I forgot that that time of
Speaker 2: the year in that region of the country, like you
Speaker 2: can get some beautiful weather and that's not a surprise
Speaker 2: because of where you are. But I kind of feel
Speaker 2: like the gloomy season for them is fall. So what
Speaker 2: we had was really no warm weather. Like there wasn't
Speaker 2: a day where I was outside hot, which is actually
Speaker 2: kind of good. And the resort we were at had
Speaker 2: a heated pool, which was clutch, and the ocean was
Speaker 2: insanely cold. I didn't get in it, but a couple
Speaker 2: of my friends did, the kids did.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love the ocean, but I just wasn't gonna get
Speaker 2: in it was that cold, right. But and then a
Speaker 2: lot of days we couldn't get in because it was
Speaker 2: a double red flag and you know that's that's a
Speaker 2: dangerous thing. So you know, when it comes to our weather,
Speaker 2: we got I would say we had two and a
Speaker 2: half to three days where you could go to bed
Speaker 2: at night saying, yeah, weather got the best of us today.
Speaker 2: We made the most of it, but like this is
Speaker 2: like this is not ideal for a beach trip. And
Speaker 2: then we had two days where I feel like it
Speaker 2: was pretty good where the sun was out for a
Speaker 2: good chunk and you had good temperatures to where that
Speaker 2: breeze coming in from the from the ocean. I mean
Speaker 2: it was almost perfect. Now, occasionally it would get overcast
Speaker 2: and a little there was just there was just a
Speaker 2: level of like wind and fog and like a haze
Speaker 2: in the sky, if that's even a thing that just
Speaker 2: you know, was not something I'm used to when I
Speaker 2: go to the Emerald Coast for a week, because we
Speaker 2: do it every year, but we do it in August
Speaker 2: in July, not in you know, April.
Speaker 3: It's different.
Speaker 2: There was real bad wind, which I wasn't used to,
Speaker 2: and you know, we met the most of it, had
Speaker 2: a good time. But then the last day we were
Speaker 2: there was Friday. Everybody got up and left Saturday. On Friday,
Speaker 2: we didn't I don't think we at any point had
Speaker 2: any like real sunshine. We had a mild overcast, so
Speaker 2: like it was bright, but like the sun wasn't beaming down.
Speaker 2: So you have the sun not hitting you and you
Speaker 2: feeling it, and you have cool temperatures to where you're
Speaker 2: not hot, you're not sweating. So what that leads to
Speaker 2: is not realizing you can still get insanely sunburnt in
Speaker 2: an overcast. And there was a lot of us that
Speaker 2: realized we've been out there three to four hours with
Speaker 2: our kids even not thinking about sunscreen because you know,
Speaker 2: out of sight, out of mind, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, oh, oh, like I remember you. Yeah, Like
Speaker 2: I sneezed at like midday, and you know my face. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would would like the look of
Speaker 2: their own face when they sneeze, but like, obviously it's
Speaker 2: because your face does a lot of movement, at least
Speaker 2: mine does. And like my forehead clenched up and I
Speaker 2: realized I'm burnt. Uh oh no it didn't, it didn't
Speaker 2: didn't get me too bad, but like we we came
Speaker 2: back with some good sun. But it really, it really
Speaker 2: was just by us making sure we were out there
Speaker 2: soaking up any ounce of sun that we did get
Speaker 2: because it wasn't it wasn't around too often. But yeah,
Speaker 2: to the Texter that mentioned it, yeah, if you were,
Speaker 2: if you were in Destin, you weren't far at all
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it wasn't a great week. Wasn't a great week.
Speaker 2: But man, I'd never experienced something quite like the drive
Speaker 2: down there. I have always and I think we talked
Speaker 2: about it briefly before I left. Like I've always heard
Speaker 2: and known that destined Florida, that area even of our beach,
Speaker 2: Santa Rosa Beach, Fort Walton Louivillions. Not to say that
Speaker 2: we've claimed turf there, but like it's like that that's
Speaker 2: a known destination spot for a lot of people around
Speaker 2: here for good reason. It's it's it's you know, I
Speaker 2: love it. It's it's our destination spot. We go to
Speaker 2: Deston every year for our family vacation, and I don't
Speaker 2: see that ever changing.
Speaker 3: So I love it.
Speaker 2: But I've always gone in the summer where you've got
Speaker 2: summer break, where you've got like I mean, we've seen
Speaker 2: people that are from the area. In fact, we've run
Speaker 2: into people there before, which is kind of weird. But
Speaker 2: spring break for just about everybody everywhere is the same week.
Speaker 2: And on our drive down on early Saturday morning, I
Speaker 2: could not believe from you know, from the Brooks exit
Speaker 2: on I sixty five all the way down to really
Speaker 2: it wasn't it wasn't Navarre.
Speaker 3: I guess it was.
Speaker 2: I can't think of a Milton, Florida because Milton, Florida
Speaker 2: is like the when you're first getting into Florida from
Speaker 2: Alabama and you can kind of go different routes to
Speaker 2: either end up in like Panama City, Destin and Navar
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of where you do. You know, you
Speaker 2: take a route to get to where you're going, and
Speaker 2: they're all relatively close to each other. But from i'd
Speaker 2: say for ninety five percent of the drive, the amount
Speaker 2: of cars from Kentucky and even Louisville, like Jefferson County plates,
Speaker 2: Louisville flags, Louisville you know, logos on the car UK
Speaker 2: like I always have. Not. Again, what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: I've always known that, like we kind of this area
Speaker 2: of this state. I guess it's kind of taken over
Speaker 2: that spot and kind of made it our own. But
Speaker 2: I never seen anything like it. I mean, I feel
Speaker 2: like every five cars I would see going in the
Speaker 2: same direction with us on sixty five out of every five,
Speaker 2: three of them at least were from Kentucky. And then
Speaker 2: we get there, pulled into our resort and you've got
Speaker 2: a front row of parking and half the cars there
Speaker 2: are from Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Like it was just wild to That's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again I guess what I didn't realize until
Speaker 2: I got there is that usually when you see a
Speaker 2: few different people that you can tell are from where
Speaker 2: you're from, you know that makes sense. But whenever everybody
Speaker 2: if you're gonna make the trip. You got one week, right,
Speaker 2: you got spring break, And that's why you know everybody
Speaker 2: in this and I'm sure if you were, if you
Speaker 2: office job, or really maybe any I guesse, It depends
Speaker 2: on It doesn't really depend on what job you have,
Speaker 2: but like you've probably got employees that fight for vacation
Speaker 2: that week is they want to go on spring break.
Speaker 3: Like my wife, not.
Speaker 2: To brags, she's in a position now where it doesn't
Speaker 2: really matter like what others in her department do with
Speaker 2: with vacation, But before she was in the position she's
Speaker 2: in now, there's a known thing, like there's people that
Speaker 2: have seniority and you're like fourth in line if you
Speaker 2: want to take that spring break week.
Speaker 3: We can't let everybody off.
Speaker 2: And until this person retires or you end up in
Speaker 2: a different position, like you're just going to have to
Speaker 2: accept that you're not getting that week off. So you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people fight to be there. And it
Speaker 2: was it was a good week all in all, but
Speaker 2: you know, weather could have been better. But at least
Speaker 2: now I know expectations should be that And really here
Speaker 2: I was belly aching about it the week before I
Speaker 2: left and the I think the forecast that I saw
Speaker 2: is probably pretty standard that time of year to where
Speaker 2: they get that kind of weather. So anyways, glad to
Speaker 2: be back again at his Coffee and Company, and we
Speaker 2: are feeled by Thornton's if you forgot about us, I mean,
Speaker 2: let me reintroduce ourselves. I'm Nick Coffee, hence the name
Speaker 2: Coffee and Company. The tribal chief Austin Montgomery, that's the
Speaker 2: other voice that you hear. And we are excited, at
Speaker 2: least I am. I won't speak for him. We got
Speaker 2: a national championship game tonight, But isn't it bittersweet?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because we're gonna get a.
Speaker 2: Great game, I think. But man, it's gonna be over
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be sad. I'm gonna try to convince myself.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Nick, you can watch the NBA. Yeah you'll
Speaker 2: you'll enjoy the NBA.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Nope, won't do it. I'll try, but I'll just check out.
Speaker 3: Just not the same. It's about that time where you
Speaker 3: just got to start watching highlights until college basketball, at
Speaker 3: least until football season. Yep, no doubt about it. Start
Speaker 3: looking up those McKenny highlights.
Speaker 2: And again, I think if you've listened to this show
Speaker 2: throughout today, We've talked a lot about the portal. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey got a lot of work done when I
Speaker 2: was gone, adding three players. That's why they currently as
Speaker 2: we speak, have the number one class in the portal,
Speaker 2: and that may change. But you know, so far, so good.
Speaker 2: I mean, college basketball for all the other for all
Speaker 2: the things I've said throughout the show today, As far
Speaker 2: as why I think it is better where it is
Speaker 2: now with portal in the NIL, I think another factor
Speaker 2: is that if you love college basketball, like a lot
Speaker 2: of us do, we now have a lot to chew
Speaker 2: on for. You know, many weeks after the season actually
Speaker 2: ends because of free agency, which of course is the
Speaker 2: transfer portal.
Speaker 3: The way we used to do it was, you.
Speaker 2: Know, we'll see who decides to come back and not
Speaker 2: go to the NBA, And you didn't have any flexibility,
Speaker 2: like if your team stunk last year and you're bringing
Speaker 2: everybody back and adding to freshmen, they might be a
Speaker 2: little bit better or they might stink again. And there
Speaker 2: was just this process of you know, everybody being stagnant.
Speaker 2: Now again the rich would get richer and stay great.
Speaker 2: But now you can just you know, in any moment
Speaker 2: any I guess you know, maybe not any moment, but
Speaker 2: you could have a team that I mean Louisville was
Speaker 2: an example of that.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I wouldn't want. I don't want to
Speaker 3: act like they were elite this year.
Speaker 2: But for what it's worth, what I'm telling you is
Speaker 2: a fact, not a lie. When the tournament started, the
Speaker 2: Ape Pole, they were topped in team that may have
Speaker 2: been misleading, whatever, but that's not something I'm making up.
Speaker 2: I'm not like, you know, doctoring stats to tell you
Speaker 2: that it's the truth. So to go from being awful
Speaker 2: for two straight years with no momentum to then being
Speaker 2: a top ten team when you played your tournament game,
Speaker 2: I mean that's because of where we are. And there
Speaker 2: was a lot of excitement last year leading up to it,
Speaker 2: just because Pat Kelsey from The jump Man. He injected
Speaker 2: some life into this fan base and started building this
Speaker 2: roster with players you could get excited about. But none
Speaker 2: of us really knew what to expect it. And then we
Speaker 2: saw it. And now we're getting set for year two.
Speaker 2: And I tell you what you now can mix in one,
Speaker 2: you've seen what this guy can do as a coach,
Speaker 2: and the way his guys play for him, and now
Speaker 2: you're seeing high level players entering this program from the
Speaker 2: freshman class with Michael Brown and Sunny Frew as well
Speaker 2: as these three transfers that he's added that you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of big schools wanted in Louisville got So
Speaker 2: I think the excitement the off season here for Louisville
Speaker 2: is going to be the only complaint I think is
Speaker 2: going to be that, you know, why don't we got
Speaker 2: to wait so long to get this thing started for
Speaker 2: round two?
Speaker 3: Now on the.
Speaker 2: Kentucky side, we did talk about at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the show, and I didn't get to it really since then. Disclaimer,
Speaker 2: And I think it's an important thing to put out
Speaker 2: there because I don't like running with you know, because again,
Speaker 2: I'm all for taking shots at the rival, enjoying you know,
Speaker 2: I love seeing him get beat by Tennessee, you know,
Speaker 2: just because they're the rival. So I'm all for it
Speaker 2: if you want to, you know, make jokes about Mark
Speaker 2: Pope Wiffin, knock yourself out. I don't blame you at all,
Speaker 2: I get it, but I also, you know, want to
Speaker 2: always be clear that, like, I'm not expecting Kentucky to
Speaker 2: be bad this season. So my disclaimers that it's just
Speaker 2: too early to know if he's going to have a
Speaker 2: better roster than he had in year one, if it's
Speaker 2: going to be worse, if it's going to be the same,
Speaker 2: Like you just don't know, and even when you have
Speaker 2: all your pieces in order, you still don't know.
Speaker 3: You just don't know.
Speaker 2: So him going after three guys and not being able
Speaker 2: to land those three guys, I think what it did
Speaker 2: for Kentucky fans it was just an experience they're not
Speaker 2: used to because in this world of not just the
Speaker 2: portal in Nil, but this world of everybody. Not everybody,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people constantly on their devices checking
Speaker 2: updates on Twitter message boards, Trilly Donovan's discord because they
Speaker 2: want to see who their team's adding, like, we have
Speaker 2: access to this information NonStop right now. And Kentucky fans,
Speaker 2: of course one of the biggest fan bases you'll find
Speaker 2: in college basketball. They're just not used to seeing their program,
Speaker 2: especially when cow was there, going after players of a
Speaker 2: high caliber and losing them at this rate. Right, first
Speaker 2: it was jaq Cell Lindenborg the I'm sorry, I guess
Speaker 2: first it was Donovan Den they transferred from New Mexico,
Speaker 2: who everybody acted like it was a done deal. He's
Speaker 2: going to Kentucky and it's over. Nobody even needs to
Speaker 2: waste any time contacting. Well, then he commits a UCLA,
Speaker 2: decides he wants to play for besides, he wants to
Speaker 2: play for McK crohnen instead of Mark Pope. And then
Speaker 2: it was jaq Cell Lindenborg the transfer from UAB the
Speaker 2: number one player in the portal, super skilled guy who
Speaker 2: I believe that's who Mark Pope met with that got
Speaker 2: a face to face. In the end, he decided to
Speaker 2: go through the NBA draft process, but he does come
Speaker 2: back to college. He's going to go to Michigan instead.
Speaker 2: And then I don't I got to be honest with
Speaker 2: you that I'm not really sure who the other one was.
Speaker 2: But apparently there's been apparently there have been three that
Speaker 2: he wanted that have committed elsewhere, so they did land
Speaker 2: a commitment. What's we're talking about in just a second,
Speaker 2: But both things can be true, Like you're probably not
Speaker 2: panicking as if uh oh, are we going to fall
Speaker 2: off as a program.
Speaker 3: But it's never.
Speaker 2: Good to see your coach at a place like Kentucky
Speaker 2: where you're not used to missing out on players really ever,
Speaker 2: and if you do, it's typically two programs. You know
Speaker 2: that you would understand why they chose that school. Right,
Speaker 2: if you're picking Duke or Kansas or Carolina over Kentucky,
Speaker 2: you still don't like it, but like you get it. Well,
Speaker 2: now you got Michigan Ucla really good programs too, by
Speaker 2: the way, but like money matters, So it's just a
Speaker 2: different element. And I could just tell from Afar as
Speaker 2: an outsider, like Kentucky fans are kind of I don't
Speaker 2: want to say they're going through like some insane level
Speaker 2: of like depression about where they stand. It's not that,
Speaker 2: but like they're just not used to this. They're just
Speaker 2: not And you know, doesn't mean Pope still can't put
Speaker 2: together a really good team. They are bringing back otega Oway,
Speaker 2: it seems like, I mean, I assume he's coming back, and.
Speaker 3: Like that's a really good player to get back.
Speaker 2: I guessed him up all year, Like I think he
Speaker 2: still was one of the most productive and consistent players
Speaker 2: in college basketball for a really good team that like
Speaker 2: people just didn't talk about a whole lot. So having
Speaker 2: him back is huge. It makes it to where you
Speaker 2: don't really have to go out there and get great
Speaker 2: players from the portal. I mean you want to, but
Speaker 2: like he's a really good player himself. If he hit
Speaker 2: the portal this year, he'd be wanted by everybody, and
Speaker 2: you already have him, so you have to keep that
Speaker 2: in mind. But also they've got really good freshmen coming
Speaker 2: in moreno Jasper Johnson. I can't think of the other
Speaker 2: young man's name, another five star that they brought in
Speaker 2: or four star.
Speaker 3: And you know, those guys.
Speaker 2: Surely like they're highly regarded, Like if you're banking on
Speaker 2: them to be really good right out of the gate,
Speaker 2: it's been proven like that's not a good recipe because
Speaker 2: those guys are good, but not to the level of
Speaker 2: the guys that made major impacts at a high level
Speaker 2: for high level programs this year. And yes, Trent, Noah Chandler,
Speaker 2: Travis Perry, those guys are coming back, it sounds like,
Speaker 2: and they can certainly help you, but like those are
Speaker 2: guys understandably so that like as a sophomore, you don't
Speaker 2: have you don't want to have to rely on those
Speaker 2: guys to be the thirty two to thirty three minutes
Speaker 2: per game your backcourt, especially when you know there's players
Speaker 2: out out there in the portal that would be better
Speaker 2: options and you're going after them and you're not getting them.
Speaker 2: So the one player that they did land is Jalen Lowe,
Speaker 2: who was really good at pitt as far as you
Speaker 2: know production. In fact, he was a really highly regarded
Speaker 2: high school kid that committed to Jeff Cable. He's from Texas.
Speaker 2: Like I can tell you watching him in person, he's good.
Speaker 2: Like that, they got a good player. But to me,
Speaker 2: that commitment screamed desperation from Pope a little bit, because
Speaker 2: there's nothing about his game that fits with what mark
Speaker 2: Pope's once out of guard at all. To be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I mean, he's not a shooter at all.
Speaker 2: He's a high volume shot taker, meaning his percentage. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't have to look it up and double check,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't mean to me, he's a guy that
Speaker 2: if he's gonna get you twenty four, he's gonna take
Speaker 2: a lot of shots to get it. And I guess
Speaker 2: that's not that uncommon with with players. But you know,
Speaker 2: he shot twenty Let's see, he shot twenty six percent
Speaker 2: from three this past year. Thirty seven percent overall. To
Speaker 2: be honest, that's terrible, Like that's really bad. But he's talented, right,
Speaker 2: He also averaged five and a half assists. He can
Speaker 2: make plays, so he's athletic. He's a talented player, and
Speaker 2: they may figure out a way for it to work.
Speaker 2: But there's nothing about his game, his style that says,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's a perfect fit between him and Mark Poe.
Speaker 2: And it'd be hard for me to believe that this
Speaker 2: guy would have been a take in a real you know,
Speaker 2: priority had you not missed out elsewhere, which again that
Speaker 2: makes sense read if you get done, if you don't
Speaker 2: need sche Aleen low quite as much. But Louisville fans,
Speaker 2: of course understandably. So we're having fun with his stat
Speaker 2: line against Louisville because obviously they lost both those games.
Speaker 2: And you know, against Louisville when they played on March first,
Speaker 2: Why do I remember that game?
Speaker 3: Was that when Chucky went on for thirty seven? I
Speaker 3: think it was because the first one was there in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Yep, And I was there for that one, and here
Speaker 2: I remember a fan yelling and screaming about him, like
Speaker 2: past the ball, he's a good but yeah, against Louisville
Speaker 2: the last time they played. He was six of eighteen overall,
Speaker 2: one of eight from three, and had sixteen points. So again,
Speaker 2: like he's the kind of guy that looks sixteen a
Speaker 2: knight's a good night. Oh for most Well, he took
Speaker 2: eighteen shots to get sixteen points. Like that's insanely inefficient,
Speaker 2: which again, I mean, he's a bad player. It just
Speaker 2: isn't at all what Mark Pope would want out of
Speaker 2: a guard that I've ever seen. Yes, that was the
Speaker 2: game Chucky roasted him for thirty seven points and made
Speaker 2: six straight threes, and you know, Louisville one, and then
Speaker 2: the first game. I feel like he might have had
Speaker 2: a better game against Louisville then, but I could be
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. I was, I was, I was,
Speaker 2: I mean, I was. I was more so focused on Louisville.
Speaker 2: That was a close game that they were really lucky
Speaker 2: to hold on and win. Rain is the one who
Speaker 2: kind of went off in that one. But yeah, in
Speaker 2: that game, Jalen Lowe five of fifteen, one of five
Speaker 2: from three, and he got you twenty four points, but
Speaker 2: thirteen of those came at the line.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's just two games.
Speaker 2: That I reference, But those are the two games Lois
Speaker 2: of fans would remember because they played, he played their team.
Speaker 2: But when you look at his numbers, I mean again,
Speaker 2: when you average sixteen points a game.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's production.
Speaker 2: But it's damn sure not efficient when you're shooting twenty
Speaker 2: you know what was it twenty? Yeah, he shot twenty
Speaker 2: six percent from three thirty seven percent overall. And again
Speaker 2: he's had some games where he didn't do that, but
Speaker 2: like he had twenty against n C State, he had
Speaker 2: to take sixteen shots to get it.
Speaker 3: You know, he.
Speaker 2: Had's see here get twenty two against Syracuse and a win,
Speaker 2: had to take twenty shots to get it.
Speaker 3: Like that's that's just a high volume guy, right, So.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Pope saves his game, But to me, that
Speaker 2: scream desperation, which again doesn't mean that Kentucky's in trouble.
Speaker 2: They're not going to be good, But I think it's
Speaker 2: kind of hard to ignore that. I think it's pretty evident.
Speaker 2: But quick break will come back talk a little more
Speaker 2: about Duke's collapse because we all enjoyed it as well
Speaker 2: as tonight's National championship game. Keep it locked right here
Speaker 2: on Sports talk seven ninety Tonight, It'll be the last
Speaker 2: college basketball game you get to watch for a very very,
Speaker 2: very long time. And you know, I never want to
Speaker 2: speed up life, because you know, you only get one
Speaker 2: life to live, and I spend time often hoping life
Speaker 2: would slow down. But when we get to this point
Speaker 2: and it's all over, I just kind of want to
Speaker 2: hit fast forward. I mean not really. If I was
Speaker 2: given the option, I wouldn't do it. But I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be sad when college basketball's over tonight and I no
Speaker 2: longer watch one shining moment with really any joy. It's
Speaker 2: just sadness, right because you know it should be a
Speaker 2: year round sport. I mean, I know that's not realistic,
Speaker 2: but and I'm being dramatic clearly, but it's gonna be
Speaker 2: all over tonight. But hey, this year, I think if
Speaker 2: anybody would just take a step back and realize, if
Speaker 2: you consider what the product is of the NAA Tournament. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was chalky as hell for one seeds, but the
Speaker 2: final four games were great, and I think we get
Speaker 2: a great game tonight, and Florida has been really the
Speaker 2: trendy favorite. I don't know what the odds were as
Speaker 2: far as you know, betting before the tournament started. But
Speaker 2: I know a lot of folks out there would watch
Speaker 2: this Florida team and think, Okay, yeah, they're gonna be
Speaker 2: tough to be. I mean, they're just they're so balanced,
Speaker 2: they're good in every area, and they've got a great
Speaker 2: player who can make shots consistently when he is defended perfectly.
Speaker 2: That that may sound weird, but that's the best way
Speaker 2: I can describe Walter Clayton Junior. I mean, he he's
Speaker 2: he's taken shots that you would be fine with anybody
Speaker 2: else taking, and he's making them. And I know they're
Speaker 2: comeback against Texas Tech. Got a lot of attention and
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I mean I watched it, and clearly
Speaker 2: Texas Tech made some mistakes, missed some front ends that
Speaker 2: really let let Florida live, right. But those shots that
Speaker 2: he made, I mean he made them like it was routine.
Speaker 2: And there's shots that like when he there was one
Speaker 2: offensive rebound that he's like, you're playing in the backyard,
Speaker 2: got to make it like take it back, you know,
Speaker 2: before you score, after you get a rebound, like he
Speaker 2: just went back, put it between his legs, pull up three,
Speaker 2: buried it. I mean, he is special and he has
Speaker 2: appointment viewing. In my opinion, I think he's gonna be
Speaker 2: an NBA player and a good one. I don't know
Speaker 2: about a star or anything like that, but I mean
Speaker 2: he's he's really really good, and I think that's why,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, they've got the they've got the edge
Speaker 2: tonight because of him. But I don't think it'll be
Speaker 2: a blowout. I think it'll be close. My gut says
Speaker 2: Florida's gonna win it. But I'm not counting out Houston
Speaker 2: because how could you after what happened against Duke? And
Speaker 2: that was a big part of the conversation earlier in
Speaker 2: the show, because if you want to make fun of
Speaker 2: Duke for collapsing and somehow losing that game and it
Speaker 2: still doesn't seem real, knock yourself out.
Speaker 3: I get it, Duke losing.
Speaker 2: That means we all win, right, Like there are certain
Speaker 2: college programs, some college programs in one sport, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be the same in the other sport. Like nobody nobody's
Speaker 2: happy whenever Alabama.
Speaker 3: And basketball los. It's like you just don't really care.
Speaker 2: Football though, like they're Goliath. They have been at least
Speaker 2: under saban to where when you see them fall and
Speaker 2: you see them, you know, get beat by Vandy in
Speaker 2: an upset, like we all love to see it. But
Speaker 2: you know, pro teams, college teams, different, you know, different sports,
Speaker 2: different levels. There are a handful of programs that if
Speaker 2: you're not a fan of them, you probably enjoy seeing
Speaker 2: them lose, or if anything, you just prefer them lose
Speaker 2: then win, if you had to say so. Duke is
Speaker 2: clearly one of those. And it was very evident on
Speaker 2: Saturday night, or maybe I should say Sunday morning, when
Speaker 2: a lot of people woke up to see that Duke
Speaker 2: somehow lost.
Speaker 3: That was me.
Speaker 2: I did not stay up to see it live, and
Speaker 2: I went back and watched it obviously because I'm thinking
Speaker 2: how the hell that happened. And by the way, I
Speaker 2: never was more intrigued to find it as quickly as
Speaker 2: I could, because there's some games where you're like, wait
Speaker 2: a second, they won, Wow, must have missed something late,
Speaker 2: Like there was no thought in my mind Houston could
Speaker 2: win when I rolled over and went to bed, and
Speaker 2: I had to see how it happened and how it
Speaker 2: played out.
Speaker 3: And yes, Duke is guilty of not closing it out right.
Speaker 3: They didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't score a field goal in the last ten
Speaker 2: minutes other than one one field goal in the last
Speaker 2: ten minutes.
Speaker 3: And Houston they do that to you.
Speaker 2: And what Houston did by being who they are, they
Speaker 2: gave themselves a fighting chance because they're tough.
Speaker 3: They never waivered. They stick with who they are.
Speaker 2: They played tough defense, they got stops, and even when
Speaker 2: shots weren't falling, they were still aggressive. So for it
Speaker 2: to get I mean when the when the technical happened,
Speaker 2: you had to think, okay, well, if there was any
Speaker 2: shot of him coming back, it's over now. Well then
Speaker 2: Duke gets the ball after the technical, free throws comes down,
Speaker 2: misses a shot. At this point, you're really in desperation mode,
Speaker 2: like you you could have taken a quick two and
Speaker 2: called a time out, but nah, I mean, like, let's
Speaker 2: be real, look at the clock, Look at how much
Speaker 2: you're down. So they hit a three, a quick three,
Speaker 2: and you know that gives you a little bit of
Speaker 2: a little glimmer of hope. Well then there's the there's
Speaker 2: the turnover, and you get another quick three. Obviously that
Speaker 2: that doesn't fall, and uh, you had the dunk tip there,
Speaker 2: which was huge, and then from then you you know,
Speaker 2: from then on, you you foul Proctor? Was it? And
Speaker 2: Proctor misses the front end of the one in one
Speaker 2: or maybe did he miss both free throws or one
Speaker 2: and one, I don't know what it was, but either way,
Speaker 2: he miss free throw, and uh that led to Houston
Speaker 2: getting the ball, and uh, actually no, that was yeah,
Speaker 2: it was the Houston. It was the miss free throw
Speaker 2: I think where they called the uh the foul on
Speaker 2: flag so obviously questionable call, no doubt, But refs miscalls.
Speaker 2: Best refs in the game are are gonna miss calls,
Speaker 2: just like the best players that ever played are gonna
Speaker 2: miss shots. So you know, it happens. If you're upset
Speaker 2: about it, I get it, But like I think it's
Speaker 2: a call that if he doesn't make it, nobody really
Speaker 2: nobody really makes a big deal about it. But if
Speaker 2: he does make it, and you're honest with yourself, you
Speaker 2: can still question if it should have been made at
Speaker 2: that time. You have every right to do that. But
Speaker 2: I also think, like it's not it's not as nearly,
Speaker 2: it's not as egregious to other people if it wasn't
Speaker 2: in that situation, and I know some people say, well
Speaker 2: you got to swallow the whistle late, Well, what do
Speaker 2: you want that? Or do you want consistency? Like what
Speaker 2: you want is the reps to do whatever gives your
Speaker 2: team the best chance to win, because that's just how
Speaker 2: fanatics are. So you've got the made free throws and
Speaker 2: then of course the Cooper flag. I mean they got
Speaker 2: they got him the ball, he got where he wanted
Speaker 2: and that's a shot that he makes a lot, and
Speaker 2: he just was defended well enough, left it short and
Speaker 2: Houston holds on to win. So do collapsing, Sure they did.
Speaker 2: They couldn't handle the press very well. But I just
Speaker 2: really wish there was more, there was more set about Houston.
Speaker 2: Just I mean, like that if I don't really care,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it's a silly hypothetical because we'll
Speaker 2: never know, But I do believe that Kelvin Sampson is
Speaker 2: the kind of guy with his with with the kind
Speaker 2: of coach I should say with like, if somebody could
Speaker 2: grind out a win in that fashion in that situation,
Speaker 2: it's Kelvin Samson's team. So with that said, like I'm
Speaker 2: certainly not going to doubt them tonight. They're really good defensively,
Speaker 2: but they're also good on offense as well. It's not
Speaker 2: like they're just out there to win a game scored
Speaker 2: in the forties. They can score as well. So tonight,
Speaker 2: you know, we should get a really really competitive game.
Speaker 3: And I think that's great for college basketball. I really do.
Speaker 2: I know it would be better if, you know, for me,
Speaker 2: Louisville was there. For Kentucky fans, I'm sure they'd want
Speaker 2: to see their team there. But I know I've said
Speaker 2: this many times, why not say it once more? When
Speaker 2: it comes to the lifeless Louisville basketball era that was
Speaker 2: the Kenny Payne experience. I did learn to love college
Speaker 2: basketball without, you know, without without having a team that
Speaker 2: you know was a part of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't just like miss the tournament.
Speaker 2: We were awful, like we we were not even like
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like when I would watch Louisville play
Speaker 2: that I was watching college basketball like you know, in
Speaker 2: a power league.
Speaker 3: It was just it was it was that bad, all right.
Speaker 2: So real quick, Yukon's women they won the national championship yesterday.
Speaker 2: Gino Arima, I mean, I think you could argue, maybe
Speaker 2: it's a hot take.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 2: I mean he to me, he has been more innovative
Speaker 2: to his sport and as successful, if not more successful
Speaker 2: in an era in eras that were harder to do
Speaker 2: it than John Wooden at UCLA. I mean that, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think Geno Arima is one of the best coaches
Speaker 2: of all time of any sport at any level. And I'm
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm presenting that as if I'm giving you
Speaker 2: like the hottest take in the world. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I think for Geno to still you know, again, they
Speaker 2: never fell off, but obviously there's some new powers in
Speaker 2: women's basketball, and over the years, I mean plenty of them.
Speaker 2: Yukon never went away. But here they are winning a
Speaker 2: national championship in this new world. And Yukon, man, I
Speaker 2: don't I can't put my finger on what it is
Speaker 2: because to me, they still do not come up when
Speaker 2: I just think of power college basketball program schools that
Speaker 2: dominate the sport of college basketball. Yukon is on a
Speaker 2: planet by themselves. And I feel like you've got to
Speaker 2: say it out loud for people to even like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess you're right.
Speaker 3: Like I'm thirty six years old.
Speaker 2: Yukon has won more national championships in my life to
Speaker 2: than any program, and Yukon's women how many they won
Speaker 2: in my lifetime double maybe of what the men have won.
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing out numbers here, but like there's no
Speaker 2: question about with you know, modern era, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it, for the last forty years, there's no
Speaker 2: program that has been better in women's basketball than Yukon.
Speaker 2: And if we're talking about what really matters, right, like
Speaker 2: what we really value as far as where you're hierarchy
Speaker 2: is in the sport, it's championships titles, Right, Yukon men
Speaker 2: have more than anybody, so that the same two schools, sorry,
Speaker 2: the same school dominates everybody else. And that's just like
Speaker 2: I do again, I'm saying it like, well, I think
Speaker 2: there's there's a tone here, Like is anybody listening to
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? And I'm sure you're well aware of
Speaker 2: it if you think about it, But like, I just
Speaker 2: think that would get more attention, right, Like all this
Speaker 2: talk about basketball, it's always about the Carolinas, the Dukes,
Speaker 2: the Kentucky's, the KANSASA And look for good reason, those
Speaker 2: programs are great, They've got great tradition, they've big ass
Speaker 2: fan bases like not a knock on them, but there's
Speaker 2: not a close second as far as like who dominates
Speaker 2: basketball respectively in both men's and women's. But if you
Speaker 2: combine them, I mean, Yukon, they're on a planet on
Speaker 2: their own. So and I like Geno or Email a lot,
Speaker 2: really really do always have, and you know he probably
Speaker 2: won't be doing this forever. So he's one of those
Speaker 2: guys that I just now try to consider. I consider
Speaker 2: myself grateful to be able to say I watched Kim
Speaker 2: turn that program into what it's turned into. And one
Speaker 2: more thing I'll have before we get to our last break.
Speaker 2: Don Staley. She's a great coach. Clearly, I don't have
Speaker 2: anything against her. I don't really have any feeling on
Speaker 2: her in one way or the other other than that
Speaker 2: I know she's a really good coach, and she recruits well,
Speaker 2: and she's built South Carolina's program up to be insanely impressive.
Speaker 2: But man, she needs to read the room because she's
Speaker 2: very much about growing the game women's basketball until it's
Speaker 2: not about her.
Speaker 3: That's very obvious.
Speaker 2: And again I hate even getting into the weeds here
Speaker 2: on this whole thing, because there's jealousy clearly from Paige
Speaker 2: Bucker's being the star this year of the sport. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark was on a different level than anything we'll
Speaker 2: ever see again, and you know, it's just petty, childish
Speaker 2: stuff to be there and be a part of it
Speaker 2: and just not realize and be so insecure that like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like you're great and that's the story, but like the
Speaker 2: storylines are are not always going to be about you,
Speaker 2: And like her complaints during the Final four about we
Speaker 2: gotta be mindful of what's on TikTok and Sports Center
Speaker 2: at all times, Well, like, I'm sorry that you are great,
Speaker 2: but you just haven't had like a player that has
Speaker 2: captivated the world.
Speaker 3: Like others have.
Speaker 2: And then of course, you know she wants to I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's there's hints that it's about race, but like
Speaker 2: you know, Angel, I mean Angel Reese was a phenomenal
Speaker 2: player at LSU, and she didn't get maybe the same
Speaker 2: attention that Clark did, but nobody ever will. Like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I just she's a great coach, but I
Speaker 2: was just kind of turned off by like the way
Speaker 2: she handled everything in the Final four, including getting completely
Speaker 2: killed in the championship game. All right, aled, we gotta
Speaker 2: we got to run. Actually, should we just double it
Speaker 2: up here? Do we even have time?
Speaker 3: We ken? If you want?
Speaker 2: Will let's be easier to that, because if I take
Speaker 2: a break now, then I wouldn't even be able to
Speaker 2: come back and say advice. So what we'll do is
Speaker 2: we'll use the last remaining amount of time we have
Speaker 2: here to go to the phone lines and we'll welcome in.
Speaker 2: Lets see if I'm how to work these phones. Let's
Speaker 2: go to Captain Kirk. What's happening, brother?
Speaker 4: Hey, what's going on? Mister Nick?
Speaker 3: How are we doing?
Speaker 4: Pretty good?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I just wanted to touch on what you was talking
Speaker 4: about a minute ago about Duke, about where we are
Speaker 4: all winners when Duke loses, with ye, I would I would.
Speaker 4: I would never advocate for Duke ever, But on an
Speaker 4: acc perspective, I was kind of hoping they would win
Speaker 4: because we were so down this year. I was hoping
Speaker 4: we would get that win so we could look good,
Speaker 4: you know. But but you know, it is what it is,
Speaker 4: and uh, they're they're beating now. So all right, Duke's
Speaker 4: done and I'm looking forward to next year. My man?
Speaker 3: Who you who you're pulling for tonight, Houston or Florida.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Houston for it was great, man. What was the
Speaker 4: deal with not letting a kilt on out there to
Speaker 4: celebrate with them?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It could be and this sounds petty because he's he's
Speaker 2: a chem to dream. But if you aren't credentialed, even
Speaker 2: if you've got like close seats, they'll I mean, they
Speaker 2: are insanely strict about credential you could be I mean,
Speaker 2: there could be Trump out there. They may try to
Speaker 2: stop him if he doesn't have the right credential showing,
Speaker 2: just because they're insanely strict about that. So that would
Speaker 2: be my guess. But you'd think people would know it's
Speaker 2: it's a chem olotuan.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Well, thank you so much, Jack. I hope
Speaker 4: you have a great day and go car go cards.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Kirk, appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: With Duke, I mean, I didn't find myself pulling for
Speaker 2: Duke at any point. And I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 2: Like I when Duke loses and everybody you know enjoys that,
Speaker 2: I enjoy it too, But I really don't, like I'm
Speaker 2: not oftentimes rooting against them unless there's like a certain
Speaker 2: instance where I bet or maybe like I like a
Speaker 2: team that they're playing, or it could like I never
Speaker 2: understood the hatred of Duke because to me, like who
Speaker 2: we mad at, Like the reason that like Dukie players,
Speaker 2: you know, the Dukie brand or whatever, like you know,
Speaker 2: all the dorky white guys that everybody finds so easy
Speaker 2: to like you know why that's a thing at Duke
Speaker 2: and it's not really anywhere else because you don't have
Speaker 2: like there's no stereotypical Duke fan.
Speaker 3: Who are Duke fans.
Speaker 2: It's like people who went there they end up moving
Speaker 2: to like the Northeast, like they're probably I mean they
Speaker 2: are clearly Duke fans in the area, but I've been
Speaker 2: to Raleigh, Like Duke, the only people that fit in
Speaker 2: their tiny ass arena are students, Like they don't.
Speaker 3: It's just so different.
Speaker 2: So like you just you know, Coach k crying all
Speaker 2: the time and having bitter beer face, and the Dukie
Speaker 2: you know, cocky white guys who slapped the floor in
Speaker 2: and cried of the refs like that became it. They
Speaker 2: had they created a world of its own because you
Speaker 2: know when you when you when.
Speaker 3: You're stereotyping programs.
Speaker 2: You're usually thinking of their fans, right because they come
Speaker 2: and go, and there's way more of them than there
Speaker 2: are players.
Speaker 3: With Duke, you just have the you know.
Speaker 2: So I've never really understood I've never interacted with Duke
Speaker 2: to where I feel like, man, I hate them, but
Speaker 2: I know everybody else does, and it just, you know,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm following the crowd. But when it comes
Speaker 2: to the ACC, I don't think Duke losing.
Speaker 3: Mit, they weren't good.
Speaker 2: They just I mean, Houston found a way to win.
Speaker 2: And I think Duke also fell victim to something that
Speaker 2: other teams would also fall victim to in same situation,
Speaker 2: and that is that nobody presses in college basketball anymore.
Speaker 2: So when you have limited time to work with your
Speaker 2: team in practice because there are limited hours, you're not
Speaker 2: spending a whole lot of time working on press breaks
Speaker 2: because you're often not.
Speaker 3: Gonna see it.
Speaker 2: So like they got hit with it and didn't really
Speaker 2: have a plan. Houston's great at it and it bit
Speaker 2: them in a big way. And if Duke would have
Speaker 2: won the title this year, I don't really know what
Speaker 2: that would have meant for the ACC.
Speaker 3: Like it would have been, you'd better have it than not.
Speaker 2: But like for that lead to get better respect and
Speaker 2: when it comes to hoops, they got to.
Speaker 3: Get everybody else better to be you know, close to Duke, and.
Speaker 2: I think you know, it's a chance they're better next year.
Speaker 2: How much better, I don't know, but I do know
Speaker 2: we're out of time. Thank you all for joining us,
Speaker 2: and uh, let's hope we get a good game tonight.
Speaker 2: You pulling for Houston or Florida to night Austin, Florida
Speaker 2: because I haven't winning in okayacket.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: It makes sense, but it makes sense, makes sense. There's
Speaker 2: no bigger win for the bracket than the championship. So
Speaker 2: help me get out everybody.
Speaker 4: Yes, you have to