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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to The Pathwent Chili for this month's bonus

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<v Speaker 1>Patreon minisode I'm Robin, I'm Jules.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Ashley. Let's dive right into this month's case.

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<v Speaker 3>April twentieth, nineteen eighty nine, McCone County, Montana. While driving

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<v Speaker 3>on the wrong side of a rural highway, thirty seven

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<v Speaker 3>year old Patricia Mihan gets into a collision with another car.

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<v Speaker 3>After staring blankly at the other vehicle's driver, Patricia walks

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<v Speaker 3>out onto the prairie and disappears. During the next few months,

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<v Speaker 3>there would be numerous sightings of a disoriented woman resembling Patricia,

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<v Speaker 3>leading to speculation that the trauma of the car crash

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<v Speaker 3>caused her to develop amnesia and forget who she was,

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<v Speaker 3>But in spite of an extensive search, Patricia is never found.

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<v Speaker 1>After that The Path Went Chili. So today we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be covering a case which was featured on

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<v Speaker 1>Unsolved Mysteries, the nineteen eighty nine disappearance of Patricia Mihan.

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<v Speaker 1>This is considered to be one of the most haunting

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<v Speaker 1>missing person's cases ever featured on the show because the

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<v Speaker 1>victim vanished under such unusual circumstances. After getting into an

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<v Speaker 1>accident with another car on a rural highway, Patricia Mihan

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<v Speaker 1>approached the other driver and gave her a blank stare

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<v Speaker 1>without saying anything, before she walked out onto an open prairie.

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<v Speaker 1>That in itself would be creepy enough, but what makes

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<v Speaker 1>the situation even more unusual is that the accident took

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<v Speaker 1>place nearly four hundred miles away from where Patricia lived,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one knows what she was doing there. To

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<v Speaker 1>begin with, it seemed apparent that Patricia was suffering from

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<v Speaker 1>some serious mental health issues at that time, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was fear that the accident may have caused her to

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<v Speaker 1>lose her memory and forget who she was. However, that

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<v Speaker 1>also meant there was a possibility she was still alive

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<v Speaker 1>and aimlessly wandering around somewhere. While most missing persons cases

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<v Speaker 1>have eyewitnessed sightings of the victim, the authorities in this

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<v Speaker 1>particular case believed that the sightings of Patricia were very credible,

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<v Speaker 1>so when the Unsaw Mystery segment originally aired, there was

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<v Speaker 1>hope that Patricia might be watching the show and decide

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<v Speaker 1>to come forward, but this never happened, and unfortunately, she

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<v Speaker 1>has still never been found.

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<v Speaker 2>This one's really eerie because she's so far away from home.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hundred miles is an incredibly long distance. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we know that she was also suffering with mental health

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<v Speaker 2>issues prior to the car crash, So then once she's

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<v Speaker 2>in this car crash, it does make sense that that

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<v Speaker 2>could exacerbate or worsen those effects. And like you said, Robin,

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<v Speaker 2>that it makes it probable that she was struggling and

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't remember maybe who she was. Maybe she's still alive

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<v Speaker 2>wandering around. But it also makes her an incredibly vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>victim for someone who might encounter her realized that she's

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<v Speaker 2>not kind of in her own faculty, she's disoriented. It

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<v Speaker 2>makes her very vulnerable to other people hurting her as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Robin, what was the case we just covered.

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<v Speaker 3>The name is eluding me right now, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>the one where it was a truck driver and we

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<v Speaker 3>theorized maybe there was a mental health condition, but he

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<v Speaker 3>walked off into the woods and he was never found.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was Devin Williams. And he was a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who was going on a cross country truck trip because

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<v Speaker 1>he was a truck driver, but then came into this

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<v Speaker 1>forest in Arizona that was way off his route, and

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<v Speaker 1>he left the truck and was started acting very strangely

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<v Speaker 1>in front of all these witnesses before he disappeared. And

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, they did find a partial skull fragment,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were unable to figure out how he died.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's been suspected that he had some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>unexplained mental health issue that caused him to drive there

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<v Speaker 1>before he disappeared and then died of exposure.

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<v Speaker 3>Our story begins in Montana in nineteen eighty nine. Our

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<v Speaker 3>central figure is thirty seven year old Patricia Mihan, who

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<v Speaker 3>originally hails from Pittsburgh but now lives in Bozeman and

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<v Speaker 3>is employed as a ranch hand who works with horses. However,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone who knows Patricia believes that she has become noticeably

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<v Speaker 3>depressed and withdrawn. Even though she loves children and initially

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<v Speaker 3>planned to have a career in daycare, Patricia seems saddened

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<v Speaker 3>by the fact that she's reached the age where it

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<v Speaker 3>may soon wind up being too late for her to

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<v Speaker 3>have children of her own. On April nineteenth, Patricia called

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<v Speaker 3>her parents to tell them that she was under a

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<v Speaker 3>great deal of stress and inquired about the possibility of

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<v Speaker 3>moving back home to Pittsburgh to live with them for

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<v Speaker 3>a while. Her parents agreed to this, and Patricia scheduled

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<v Speaker 3>an appointment with her psychologist for the morning of April

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<v Speaker 3>twenty first, in order to discuss the whole change. Patricia

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<v Speaker 3>did not like to fly, but her parents did not

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<v Speaker 3>like the idea of her driving over eighteen hundred miles

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<v Speaker 3>to Pittsburgh, and she agreed to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>It with them.

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<v Speaker 3>After her appointment on April twentieth, Patricia called her landlord

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<v Speaker 3>to say that she would be gone for a while

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<v Speaker 3>before leaving her apartment in Bozeman, and he would later

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<v Speaker 3>describe her as sounding very hyper and not making much sense.

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<v Speaker 1>At around eight fifteen pm that evening, Patricia was driving

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<v Speaker 1>east down Highway two hundred through McCone County, in a

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<v Speaker 1>desolate rural area seven miles southwest of the small town

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<v Speaker 1>of Circle. This location was nearly four hundred miles away

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<v Speaker 1>from Bozeman, and Patricia was inexplicably driving on the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road When another car approached her, Patricia

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<v Speaker 1>nearly wound up having a head on collision with this vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>which swerved out of the way. However, there was another

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<v Speaker 1>car behind that one, and even though the driver tried

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<v Speaker 1>to pull off the road, Patricia still wound up crashing

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<v Speaker 1>into her. The driver was left dazed but not seriously injured,

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<v Speaker 1>though she would end up witnessing a strange sight. After

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<v Speaker 1>she exited her vehicle, Patricia emerged from her own car

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<v Speaker 1>and walked towards the wreckage, where she proceeded to stare

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<v Speaker 1>down at the driver. She was described as having a

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<v Speaker 1>blank look in her eyes and gave off no reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to the situation at all. Without saying a word, Patricia

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<v Speaker 1>walked away from the road, climbed over a fence, and

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<v Speaker 1>stared aimlessly at the accident seen again. She then walked

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<v Speaker 1>out into the open prairie and subsequently disappeared into the night.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Tragic rea reality when you start thinking about that, she's

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<v Speaker 2>basically begging her parents to let her come home at

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<v Speaker 2>age thirty seven, So you know her struggle is real,

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<v Speaker 2>it's heavy, it's deep. She has a plan and something

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<v Speaker 2>she wanted to do with her life, which was work

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<v Speaker 2>in childcare. It sounds like she also wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>a mom, but felt a lot of pressure of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of her biological clock ticking. And so when she is

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<v Speaker 2>talking to her parents and you're saying, I can't fly,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to drive to you. I'm feeling significant distress.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go see my therapist. Could she have

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<v Speaker 2>been getting into the car with this idea that she's

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<v Speaker 2>driving to her parents' house and just kind of this

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<v Speaker 2>desperate pursuit of that, and then you look at her

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<v Speaker 2>physical behavior and that blank stare. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you know listeners have ever dealt with someone with a

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<v Speaker 2>severe mental health crisis, but I've seen in people that

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<v Speaker 2>I love and care about and in people that I

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<v Speaker 2>work with, where you'll see that stare where it's like you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Not present, you're catatonic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, they're looking through you. They're looking off past the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of what's in their current view, and you can't

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<v Speaker 2>connect to them. You can't get through to them into

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<v Speaker 2>reality because they're so they're struggling so deeply in that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that sounds like what's happening here that she

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<v Speaker 2>was a little chaotic when she's talking to her landlord,

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<v Speaker 2>she's driving chaotically. Then you add a potential of some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of head injury here. It seems like she is

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<v Speaker 2>truly disconnected from who Patricia really is, and she's almost

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<v Speaker 2>caught up in this psychosis or episode that she's having.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little worried by the fact that she was

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<v Speaker 3>described as being deeply depressed prior, and I'm obviously not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to diagnose her here, but biblearr disorder is like

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<v Speaker 3>a pendulum, and if you swing really far to one side,

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<v Speaker 3>which is depression, you're often going to swing far to

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<v Speaker 3>the other side, which would be a manic episode or

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<v Speaker 3>a hypomanic episode of your bipolar two. We have the

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<v Speaker 3>landlord describing her as being hyper, and it's really tough

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<v Speaker 3>to tell if it is like a manic episode or

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<v Speaker 3>if it's just anxiety about having to travel home and

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<v Speaker 3>that's manifesting as being hyper. But the catatonic stare is

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<v Speaker 3>also troubling. That can be a byproduct of a manic episode.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not looking very good here. It seems like

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<v Speaker 3>thirty seven would be an age where you would have

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<v Speaker 3>already been diagnosed with this, But we also have to

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<v Speaker 3>consider the time period. A lot of people didn't seek

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<v Speaker 3>mental health treatment like they do today. There was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more of a stigma attached to it. So there

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<v Speaker 3>is a very real possibility that there could have been

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<v Speaker 3>other mental health episodes or manic episodes if she was

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<v Speaker 3>indeed bipolar and she just wasn't treated for it and

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<v Speaker 3>somehow managed to come out the other side and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>had long periods of you mea where she actually felt,

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<v Speaker 3>like i'll say in quotations, normal or typical, not depressed

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<v Speaker 3>or manic, And so people maybe weren't aware that she

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<v Speaker 3>was struggling so mightily with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you happen to know how much awareness there was

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<v Speaker 1>about bipolar disorder back in nineteen eighty nine. Was this

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<v Speaker 1>a time period when people would be diagnosed with it

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<v Speaker 1>or was there just not much awareness about it at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you would be diagnosed with it, but it would

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<v Speaker 3>take a lot more. I think it would have to

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<v Speaker 3>be extremely severe. Like I'll just use my mother as

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<v Speaker 3>an example, because she was diagnosed i think in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty four. So you know, when I was like basically

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<v Speaker 3>was in a full manic episode like psychosis.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And luckily my uncle had gone to UBC med school

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<v Speaker 3>and where we lived was hours away, but he pulled

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<v Speaker 3>some strings, got her in with the best psychiatrists, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was in there observation for six months until she

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<v Speaker 3>was diagnosed and properly medicated. So that tells you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of what it was the landscape was like in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it depends if you were in a major

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<v Speaker 3>metropolitan area, like say, if you're in a major city

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, Los Angeles or New York, and you

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<v Speaker 3>to secure the right type of treatment with professionals, then

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to do a lot better. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty nine you're a lot less likely to

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<v Speaker 3>seek help, and even if you did seek help, you

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<v Speaker 3>might not find the right professional who has either adequate

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<v Speaker 3>experience or is really great at spotting the signs. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that there's so many variables that have to line

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<v Speaker 3>be put on the right medication, because it is trial

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<v Speaker 3>and error with bipolar. What works for one person, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the first line treatment like lithium may not work for another.

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<v Speaker 2>Also really hard too, is if you think back to

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<v Speaker 2>certain careers or having different dreams and aspirations. You were

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<v Speaker 2>encouraged not to seek mental health help because it would

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<v Speaker 2>be part of your medical record and you wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to pursue any of those goals. So someone who

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<v Speaker 2>might want to go into the military, or might want

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<v Speaker 2>had a health record with mental health anxiety, depression by polarism,

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<v Speaker 2>you were kicked out of those jobs, right or you

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, you know, struggling with anxiety and depression as

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<v Speaker 2>remember thinking I can't ask for help, like I just

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<v Speaker 2>need to talk to my parents and I just need

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<v Speaker 2>to have my girlfriend help me. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>still struggle with anxiety and depression. So back then it

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<v Speaker 2>So even if it wasn't by polar as a mental

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<v Speaker 2>health in general, I think was just viewed so differently

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<v Speaker 3>When the mcconne County Sheriff's Office were notified about what

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<v Speaker 3>happened and arrived to the scene, they searched Patricia's car

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<v Speaker 3>and noticed some clothes and other items inside. This suggested

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<v Speaker 3>and the only item Patricia would have had on her

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<v Speaker 3>when she left was her purse. The police searched the

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<v Speaker 3>prairie and about three quarters of a mile from the

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<v Speaker 3>crash scene, they were able to find a trail of

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<v Speaker 3>size six tennis shoe tracks, which probably belonged to Patricia,

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<v Speaker 3>but these tracks soon came to an end. For the

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<v Speaker 3>next five days, an extensive ground and air search was

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<v Speaker 3>conducted of the area, but other than her shoe tracks,

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<v Speaker 3>no trace of Patricia could be found. It was established

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<v Speaker 3>that a hay truck had been parked about a half

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<v Speaker 3>mile away from the accident scene before it was driven

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<v Speaker 3>away a short time later, so it was theorized that

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<v Speaker 3>Patricia might have stowed away on the truck without the

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<v Speaker 3>driver's knowledge, or that she was picked up after hitching

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<v Speaker 2>I almost feel like it would be more the hitch

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<v Speaker 2>hiking route for me. The landscape kind of hard to

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<v Speaker 2>wrap my head around. It said she walked off into

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<v Speaker 2>this almost prairie like open field kind of area, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a whole lot of places for her to quote,

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<v Speaker 2>disappear into if she's just wandering around aimlessly, which leads

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<v Speaker 2>you to think something like the truck or getting someone

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<v Speaker 2>to pick her up would be possible. But remember the

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<v Speaker 2>state that she's in. If you were picking someone up

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<v Speaker 2>and you drove around and this person really is not

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<v Speaker 2>connected to reality, is as someone that you would feel

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<v Speaker 2>safe getting into your car or feel like there might

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<v Speaker 2>be a problem down the road if you give this

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And another possibility which you brought up in the

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<v Speaker 1>opening is if it could have been someone with nefarious

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<v Speaker 1>intentions who saw that she was a vulnerable person to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken adage of, so as possible that if she

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<v Speaker 1>hitched a ride with the wrong person, she could have

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<v Speaker 1>become the victim at foul play. At some point, when

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<v Speaker 1>Patricia's family was contacted by the authorities about her disappearance,

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<v Speaker 1>They had no idea why she was driving nearly four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred miles away from Bozeman. While it was possible she

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<v Speaker 1>was heading towards Pittsburgh, her parents ru under the oppression

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<v Speaker 1>that she would not be traveling to see them until

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<v Speaker 1>after her appointment with her psychologists the following day. Regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>Patricia's parents and brother would spend the next few months

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<v Speaker 1>traveling around the Pacific Northwest in order to distribute over

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand Missing Persons flyers, and it wasn't long before

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<v Speaker 1>reported sightings of Patricia started popping up all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the alleged sidings of Patricia took place at

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<v Speaker 1>truck stops in Montana or Washington State, but it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like whenever the authorities or her family were notified about them,

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<v Speaker 1>she would hitchhike out of the area before they could

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<v Speaker 1>arrive at the scene. But the most consistent detail from

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<v Speaker 1>these sidings was that Patricia looked confused and disoriented. Initially,

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<v Speaker 1>it was suspected that she might have fled the scene

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<v Speaker 1>of the accident to avoid potential legal trouble, but the

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<v Speaker 1>accounts of these sightings told a different story. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>on May fourth, two weeks after the accident, a police

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<v Speaker 1>officer believed he saw a woman resembling Patricia at a

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<v Speaker 1>Harty's restaurant in Laverne, Minnesota, where she reportedly sat in

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<v Speaker 1>a booth drinking water for five straight hours until the

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant closed. Afterward, the woman then walked to a nearby

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hour diner, and when the officer approached her

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<v Speaker 1>and tried to question her, she would not give her name,

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<v Speaker 1>though she did claim she was from Colorado before then

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<v Speaker 1>saying she was from Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>And the problem there is that law enforcement also did

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<v Speaker 2>not have tools and still doesn't have the tools needed

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<v Speaker 2>to help someone who they believe is struggling with a

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<v Speaker 2>mental health crisis. There's such limited resources of what you

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<v Speaker 2>do when you suspect someone is struggling, right when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have proof and you don't have documentation, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have community resources to refer them to because

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of out of his person you especially back

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighties and nineties, that law enforcement didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>handle mental health right. They handled criminal behavior that came

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<v Speaker 2>as a result of mental health, but weren't in the

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<v Speaker 2>position to assist in that scenario and so oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Patricia's almost just one step ahead of everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet she's not even quite sure where she's stepping to,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she's not aware of who she is or where

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<v Speaker 2>she's at in this whole process.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing. Like, this woman had not broken

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<v Speaker 1>any laws, and she did not appear to be a

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<v Speaker 1>danger to herself, So there was really nothing else that

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<v Speaker 1>the officer could do besides ask her a few questions.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, this is one of those sightings that

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<v Speaker 1>took where the officer did not realize it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been Patricia Actil after the fact, because at the time

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<v Speaker 1>he questioned this woman, he had not heard about her case,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was only after he saw a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>or a short time later that he realized this might

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<v Speaker 1>be the same woman I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>The day after the sighting in Laverne, a woman matching

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<v Speaker 3>Patricia's description was seen at a trust and Sioux Falls,

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<v Speaker 3>South Dakota, drinking coffee and laughing at herself. A female

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<v Speaker 3>truck driver crossed paths with her in the restroom well,

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<v Speaker 3>she was staring at herself in the mirror, and when

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<v Speaker 3>the driver asked the woman her name, she replied, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Later that night, Patricia was spotted at

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<v Speaker 3>another truck stop over two hundred miles away in the

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<v Speaker 3>town of Murdo, South Dakota, but this time she was

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<v Speaker 3>arguing with a male companion. The most interesting sighting occurred

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<v Speaker 3>on May nineteenth, when Patricia was seen by two waitresses

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<v Speaker 3>at a Perkins restaurant in Bozeman, only a few miles

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<v Speaker 3>from where she lived. She came in at around eight

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<v Speaker 3>thirty am to order coffee in a cinnamon roll and

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<v Speaker 3>told the waitress she was in a hurry because she

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<v Speaker 3>needed to go shopping. But then she remained in the

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant for around two hours and spent most of her

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<v Speaker 3>time either talking to herself or just staring blankly. When

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<v Speaker 3>she left, she paid the two dollars tab entirely in change.

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<v Speaker 3>In addition to circulating her photograph, Patricia's family also brought

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<v Speaker 3>a video time of her with them to show people

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<v Speaker 3>who had seen her. When the waitress and Bozman watched

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<v Speaker 3>the tape, they were very certain the woman they saw

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<v Speaker 3>was Patricia.

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<v Speaker 2>This case is very much different than other missing person

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<v Speaker 2>cases because where you do have eyewitnesses and everyone knows

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<v Speaker 2>our concerns with eyewitnesses. You usually have one or two

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<v Speaker 2>that say they sell someone similar to her, and we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about confirmation bias and these kinds of things. But

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<v Speaker 2>here you have people from all over the country who

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<v Speaker 2>are almost following a trail of her behavior and her whereabouts,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all very consistent. They're all describing a catatonic stare.

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<v Speaker 2>They're describing someone whose words don't match her behaviors, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a hurry, I have to go, But then

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<v Speaker 2>she sits there for two hours, she's talking to herself.

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<v Speaker 2>She isn't rational or making any sense when people confront her.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you look at this, to me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy how many people, even new to come

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<v Speaker 2>forward and share these stories. They're pretty convincing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pretty sure that not all of them were Patricia,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm kind of skeptical that she traveled two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>miles in the same night from Sioux Falls to Murdo,

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<v Speaker 1>South Dakota. So possibly one or both of them are mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is quite interesting that they're also consistent, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's one thing if you just see someone from a

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<v Speaker 1>distance and think they look like a missing person, but

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<v Speaker 1>when they're exhibiting strange behavior, they're going to leave more

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<v Speaker 1>of an impression. And then you hear about a missing

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<v Speaker 1>woman who had also been beheating strangely before she disappeared,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can understand why it seems like such

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<v Speaker 1>a compelling match.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if either of you or the listeners

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<v Speaker 3>have ever known somebody when they're in a state like this,

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<v Speaker 3>they are so incredibly vulnerable. So it really worries me

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<v Speaker 3>knowing you know, from like a lot of the truck

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<v Speaker 3>stop murders that have happened, and a lot of sex

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<v Speaker 3>work and drugs that goes on at these different truck stops,

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<v Speaker 3>how vulnerable Patricia would be if she was in a

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<v Speaker 3>state where she it was basically, had had a psychotic break,

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<v Speaker 3>if she had amnesia, if she was having a manic episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Any of these things would leave her open to those

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<v Speaker 3>with nefarious intentions. And if any of these sightings are her,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just so worried for whomever came across her and

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<v Speaker 3>if they had good intentions or not, especially when.

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<v Speaker 1>All these reports talk about her were like staying in

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<v Speaker 1>places like coffee shops and truck stops for hours at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, just sitting there. So if someone was in

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<v Speaker 1>there with the nefarious intentions just saw this woman just

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<v Speaker 1>talking to herself, staring blankly in a booth, they would

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<v Speaker 1>probably say, well, maybe I'll offer this woman a ride,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would take advantage of the situation. The

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<v Speaker 1>sightings would continue for over a year, and an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>development occurred in August of nineteen ninety when a transient

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<v Speaker 1>woman with a strong resemblance to Patricia was arrested for

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<v Speaker 1>littering in Idaho. The officer who arrested her was initially

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<v Speaker 1>certain that she was Patricia, so much so that one

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper prematurely purported that it was her her. However, a

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprint check soon confirmed that the woman was someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>But if some of the other sightings were accurate and

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<v Speaker 1>Patricia was out there somewhere in a disoriented state, how

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<v Speaker 1>could this have happened. Well, given that Patricia had been

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<v Speaker 1>going through a very stressful time in her life, this

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<v Speaker 1>letter psychologist to theorize that the accident had caused her

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<v Speaker 1>to develop amnesia and forget who she was. Either she

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<v Speaker 1>suffered a head injury or the trauma of the incident

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<v Speaker 1>and the fear that she might have killed someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the crash triggered something in her brain and caused her

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<v Speaker 1>to deliberately block things out. This meant she was now

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<v Speaker 1>wandering the country as a transient with no memory of

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<v Speaker 1>her past life.

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<v Speaker 2>So this one woman gets ruled out as not being Patricia, right,

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<v Speaker 2>even though this officer is pretty certain. But we do

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<v Speaker 2>know established mental health of Patricia, and again, she was

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<v Speaker 2>struggling mightily. Before she got in that car. She was

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<v Speaker 2>asking her mom and dad, can I drive back to you?

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, I don't know if she needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be driving. She needs to fly, but she's scared to fly,

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<v Speaker 2>And so there could have been that just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>panic where she got in her car and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to get to my parents. They don't understand.

423
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<v Speaker 2>They don't want me to get in the car, but

424
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<v Speaker 2>I have to. And so even when people are warning

425
00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.279
<v Speaker 2>her like these behaviors aren't safe for you, I'm worried

426
00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.799
<v Speaker 2>for you, I feel like in that moment, she was

427
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<v Speaker 2>making plans erratically to get out of her current situation

428
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<v Speaker 2>and make her way back to her parents, which is

429
00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:30.519
<v Speaker 2>why this is so heartbreaking. She knew where she needed

430
00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:32.559
<v Speaker 2>to be to be safe, and it's like she was

431
00:22:32.680 --> 00:22:36.599
<v Speaker 2>just trying to get there, and that crash, like you said,

432
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.079
<v Speaker 2>stimulated something, It activated something. Did it make what she

433
00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.359
<v Speaker 2>was already experiencing worse? Did it give her timbering amnesia?

434
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Did it give her a concussion? What was it that

435
00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.640
<v Speaker 2>might have exacerbated her already desperate mental health situation?

436
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<v Speaker 1>And it makes me wonder what she was going to

437
00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:58.599
<v Speaker 1>do if she had not gotten into a crash at

438
00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:01.839
<v Speaker 1>that particular spot, Because if she was traveling to Pittsburgh,

439
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.680
<v Speaker 1>was she really planning to drive the full eighteen hundred

440
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>miles without stopping? Because I could actually see someone in

441
00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a manick state doing that where they just feel they

442
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.160
<v Speaker 1>have to get there as quickly as possible, that they

443
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:14.519
<v Speaker 1>will drive all night if they have to in order

444
00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to arrive at their destination.

445
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<v Speaker 3>Well, no one could ever track Patricia down. The number

446
00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.599
<v Speaker 3>of reported sightings of her in the years following her

447
00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:28.559
<v Speaker 3>disappearance would reach five thousand. Another interesting development occurred in

448
00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:32.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven when the Royal Canadian Mounted Police released a

449
00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:36.599
<v Speaker 3>composite sketch of an unidentified female victim whose partial skullf

450
00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:39.799
<v Speaker 3>fragment had been found near a creek in Mission, British Columbia.

451
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:43.759
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety five, DNA testing would link the skullf

452
00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:47.440
<v Speaker 3>fragment to human remains discovered on the farm of notorious

453
00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Canadian serial killer Robert Picton. When the sketch of this

454
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<v Speaker 3>victim was shared on the Webslooth's forum, some posters thought

455
00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:58.319
<v Speaker 3>that she bore a striking resemblance to Patricia Mihan, and

456
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<v Speaker 3>given that she went missing in the Pacific Northwest, they

457
00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:04.599
<v Speaker 3>wondered if perhaps she crossed the border into Canada and

458
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.559
<v Speaker 3>cross paths with Picton. A tip was submitted to the RCMP,

459
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't look like the lead ever went anywhere. Unfortunately,

460
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.759
<v Speaker 3>in spite of all the sightings of Patricia, she has

461
00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.759
<v Speaker 3>still never been tracked down or confirmed to be alive,

462
00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:22.599
<v Speaker 3>and her current whereabouts continue to remain unknown.

463
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>So I guess you could say the path went Chile.

464
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<v Speaker 2>So, Robin, you deal a lot with these missing person

465
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:33.359
<v Speaker 2>cases and unsolved cases. Is five thousand a lot of

466
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.400
<v Speaker 2>reported sightings to see for someone. I just feel like,

467
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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the span of space and time

468
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<v Speaker 2>for someone who is has gone missing, five thousand reported sightings,

469
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:49.319
<v Speaker 2>that seems like a really high number of people knowing

470
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.599
<v Speaker 2>of her case, understanding that there's an issue, and then

471
00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 2>making a report that they feel like they interacted with her.

472
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<v Speaker 1>That does seem like a large amount. Yes, I mean,

473
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I know that missing persons cases are going to get

474
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like useless tips that wind up being

475
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>ruled out, where someone will say I saw such and

476
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.079
<v Speaker 1>such walking down a street in the distance, and I

477
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:11.160
<v Speaker 1>think it might have been this missing person, but there's

478
00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:13.799
<v Speaker 1>nothing to work with. But I would be curious to know,

479
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like what percentage of these five thousand sightings involved someone

480
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>who recalled seeing a woman who appeared to be in

481
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:24.240
<v Speaker 1>a vulnerable condition, who was staring blankly or talking to herself,

482
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 1>because that just seems oddly specific if you have that

483
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:31.079
<v Speaker 1>many sightings of some of a woman matching Patricia's description

484
00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 1>acting strangely a short time after she got into that

485
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>car accident and may have triggered something in her head.

486
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I, even though in a lot of

487
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>these missing persons cases I rule out eyewitness sightings, this

488
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 1>one I just cannot be sure, just because of like

489
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the specific details these witnesses have provided.

490
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<v Speaker 3>I kind of discount the idea that she would be

491
00:25:55.880 --> 00:26:00.279
<v Speaker 3>in Canada unless somebody smuggled her across the border. Anybody

492
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.000
<v Speaker 3>has ever gone by car across the border from the

493
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 3>US to Canada. It's not exactly an easy thing to do,

494
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 3>and you're certainly not going to be able to do

495
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 3>it without a passport.

496
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know that security was a lot more

497
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 1>laxed back in nineteen eighty nine, and you could cross

498
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the border without one sometimes. But if Patricia's acting strangely,

499
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 1>then I guess she would capture the border guard's attention

500
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.559
<v Speaker 1>and they might ask for identification. But I haven't heard

501
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>much of any eyewitness sightings of Patricia in Canada or

502
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>British Columbia. They've mostly been relegated to the US, so

503
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 1>I do tend to agree that this skull fragment that

504
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>was found in British Columbia does not belong to her anyway.

505
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>If you ask any Unsolved Mysteries fan about the Patricia

506
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Mean segment, the first thing that will probably pop into

507
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.839
<v Speaker 1>their head is her self portrait, which is one of

508
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 1>the most iconic images ever featured on the show. After

509
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 1>she went missing, Patricia's family found a role of undeveloped

510
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>film in or camera and after developing the photos, discovered

511
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.279
<v Speaker 1>a self port Patricia had taken of herself in a mirror,

512
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>which I guess would be the nineteen eighty nine equivalent

513
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:08.599
<v Speaker 1>of a selfie. It's a pretty haunting photograph, and when

514
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 1>you look into Patricia's eyes, you can only imagine what

515
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was going on in her head at that point. Apparently

516
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>she had a similar look in her eyes, which she

517
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>stared at the other motorist before disappearing. But as memorable

518
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>as this segment is, the reason we couldn't devote a

519
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.559
<v Speaker 1>longer two part episode of the case is that there

520
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 1>really isn't too much to analyze. We know that Patricia

521
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.279
<v Speaker 1>got into an accident, wandered off, and disappeared, but the

522
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 1>only unanswered question is what happened to her. It's pretty

523
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>clear that Patricia was suffering from depression and dealing with

524
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 1>serious mental health issues at this time. I'm also pretty

525
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.519
<v Speaker 1>certain she was single, as some of the articles about

526
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.519
<v Speaker 1>her case reference an ex boyfriend who lived in Spokane,

527
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Washington and became actively involved in the search for though

528
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know any details about the relationship or how

529
00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 1>long they had been broken up by this point. But

530
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 1>even though Patricia's psychologists seemed to think the accident triggered

531
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 1>her amnesia. Something was definitely off long before the accident recurred.

532
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>There has never been any explanation to account for why

533
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Patricia was driving on a rural highway nearly four hundred

534
00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:16.039
<v Speaker 1>miles away from her home, though since she had clothing

535
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and other items in her car, she might have been

536
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>attempting the eighteen hundred mile cross country trip to see

537
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>her family in Pittsburgh. Or it's even possible that she

538
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>lost her memory before she crashed her car and had

539
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 1>no idea where she was going. Let's also not forget

540
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.559
<v Speaker 1>that Patricia was driving on the wrong side of the road,

541
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and you could assume that perhaps Patricia was attempting suicide

542
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 1>by deliberately causing a head on collision. Whatever the case,

543
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>even though it was never officially confirmed if Patricia suffered

544
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>her head injury in the accident, something was clearly wrong

545
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>with her when she wandered out onto the prairie.

546
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>I tend to lean against suicide because I feel like

547
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Patricia simply wasn't present in her mind, Like I think

548
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 2>she was so oh so depressed, so caught up in

549
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:10.319
<v Speaker 2>whatever distress she was feeling, that she simply wasn't conscious

550
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>of what was going on around her like, you know

551
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>when you get into a car and you drive and

552
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 2>you don't remember how you got from point A to

553
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 2>point B, but somehow you're safely in your driveway. I

554
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's what she was doing. She was on autopilot,

555
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>in distress, and she, in my mind, said, I have

556
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 2>to get to my parents. They said, that's a good plan.

557
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm going to do. They don't want me

558
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>to drive. I'm going to do it anyway. And she

559
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>makes those plans with her landlord to get out of town.

560
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And so for me, I feel like driving on the

561
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>wrong side of the road.

562
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 4>The accident.

563
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 2>All of that is because she's not actually focused or

564
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.279
<v Speaker 2>visually present when she's behind the wheel of her car.

565
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 3>So there are really only two possibilities here. This took

566
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 3>place on a very cold night, so either Patricia died

567
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>of exposure on the prairie and her remains have never

568
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.200
<v Speaker 3>been found, or she did manage to get a ride

569
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 3>out of the area and spent the next little while

570
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>wandering around the country as a transient. We've mentioned numerous

571
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 3>times on this podcast that is very common for people

572
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.880
<v Speaker 3>to go missing in remote areas with their remains never

573
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.960
<v Speaker 3>being found. Even after an extensive search effort. You could

574
00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 3>easily compare this story to another case we covered on

575
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 3>a previous minisode, and that's the death of Don Kemp,

576
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 3>who vanished under similar circumstances on a remote prairie in Wyoming.

577
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Much like with Patricia's disappearance, an extensive ground and air

578
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 3>search was conducted of the area, but Don's remains were

579
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 3>never found until a completely random person just happened to

580
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 3>stumble upon them three years later.

581
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 2>And how many cases have we talked about, or do

582
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>you guys know about where you have people that go

583
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.119
<v Speaker 2>out on these ground searches and there are extensive hunts

584
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>to recover their body or to locate them alive, and

585
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 2>it's months years later where someone says, we searched this area,

586
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 2>and yet months day, years later they're actually found in

587
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 2>that same search location. So it's not unheard of that

588
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 2>people do go and they look for their remains and

589
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 2>they're actually discovered later in a place that was quote searched.

590
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Things like an animal pulling, you know, a piece of

591
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 2>clothing somewhere that makes it more visible, whether changing making

592
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>something more present or more visible. So many different explanations

593
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 2>for why that happens, but it's not uncommon to say

594
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 2>we searched the area, didn't find anything, and yet doesn't

595
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 2>mean she wasn't there.

596
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing with the Don Kemp case, like,

597
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't a wooded area with a lot of foilage

598
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>or anything. This was an open prairie where you would

599
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>think that if you search hard enough, you're eventually going

600
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to find his body or some skeleton remains. Yet they

601
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>still managed to miss him. So even though they did

602
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with Patricia, That's why I don't discount

603
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the idea that she did die of exposure on the

604
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 1>prairie and they just have never found her remains.

605
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 4>What's that case in the desert?

606
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>The guy's name is Daniel and he goes missing after

607
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 3>having what appears to be a mental health issue for crisis.

608
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you talking about one that we've covered or a

609
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>different case?

610
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, it's rather it's rather recently.

611
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that Daniel Robinson case.

612
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.599
<v Speaker 3>That's yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that one was similar, right.

613
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is where he just kind of disappears and

614
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>abandons his car and they still haven't found him. And

615
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the one I was thinking of was the David Stone case.

616
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Which we did on a minisod recently, where he also

617
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>wandered around the desert and they searched for him, but

618
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:36.599
<v Speaker 1>they didn't find his remains. For a couple of years now,

619
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>there were around five thousand eyewitness sightings of Patricia after

620
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 1>she vanished, and that's an awful lot. But once again,

621
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>we frequently mentioned on this podcast how common it is

622
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 1>for eyewitnesses and missing persons cases to be mistaken and

623
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>proven wrong. However, in this particular case, I think there's

624
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 1>a decent chance that at least some of these sightings

625
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 1>might be accurate. When you watch the Unsolved Mystery segment

626
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and read the original news articles about this case, it's

627
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>interesting how the word confirmed it specifically used to describe

628
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>some of these sightings. I mean, I am pretty certain

629
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 1>that these witnesses saw a woman who looked a lot

630
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 1>like Patricia, but I don't know how the authorities could

631
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent confirm it was her unless the witnesses

632
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.319
<v Speaker 1>shared some specific details which were not released to the public.

633
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>But it is interesting how there are multiple sightings of

634
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 1>a disoriented looking woman resembling Patricia in different places like Montana,

635
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>South Dakota, and Minnesota, and the descriptions of these sightings

636
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 1>sound fairly similar. The siding at the restaurant in Bozeman

637
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>is definitely the most credible since it was Patricia's hometown

638
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and the two witnesses who identified her also watched a

639
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 1>videotape of Patricia. This is quite different than simply looking

640
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>at a photograph, since they can study Patricia's mannerisms in

641
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the video and how she talked and compare it to

642
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the woman they saw. If this woman was Patricia, I

643
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 1>have to wonder if there was something in the back

644
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 1>of her mind which made her think that she might

645
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>be from Bozeman, but the symptoms of amnesia prevented her

646
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 1>from figuring out who she really was.

647
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 2>That is really interesting that they would say confirmed. It's

648
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 2>not as if Patricia had a really prominent facial figure

649
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>or characteristic or let's say, a tattoo or something like

650
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 2>that that made it, Oh my gosh, that's definitely her, right.

651
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.320
<v Speaker 2>We saw the large birthmark, we saw the eye deformity

652
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is. Patricia's very normal looking. When you

653
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.760
<v Speaker 2>google a picture of her, there's nothing that stands out.

654
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 2>She's very average for She's just a girl, and so

655
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing profoundly unique about her face, her hair, her body.

656
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 2>That would make it where I could tell you I

657
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>saw this person and you would say, one hundred percent

658
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 2>confirmed that it was her. I do love this idea

659
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>that you have two waitresses who were able to watch

660
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 2>a video that the family provides and they can say, oh,

661
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 2>my goodness, that's her, because you do see different things

662
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>when you see facial expressions, when you see hand motions

663
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.679
<v Speaker 2>and all of these different kind of physical behaviors in

664
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>a video. To confirm that, yes, we saw some of

665
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>those similar mannerisms, it is a very promising lead. And

666
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>then again you go, well, then what right they everywhere

667
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 2>they went and heard that Patricia had been there? Then

668
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 2>what where do you go from there? That's what her

669
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.960
<v Speaker 2>poor family and law enforcement were dealing with.

670
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm intrigued by the idea that maybe

671
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.880
<v Speaker 1>she had something in the back of her memory which

672
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>made her think that Bozeman was a part of her life.

673
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And as you recall, when she first went into this diner,

674
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>she said that she was in a hurry and she'd

675
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>only be there a short time. But then she stayed

676
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>there for the next two hours. And you wonder, is

677
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>there something triggering her memory here, making your think this

678
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 1>place looks familiar, this city looks familiar. Maybe I once

679
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>lived here, but she just didn't have enough in her

680
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.599
<v Speaker 1>memory to figure out who she really was.

681
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>All that being said, remember the false lead with the

682
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:59.519
<v Speaker 3>woman who was arrested in Idaho in nineteen ninety even

683
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 3>though Patricia, she apparently had such a strong resemblance to

684
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 3>her that it convinced the arresting officer and many other

685
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 3>people until a fingerprint check was performed. So it's easy

686
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 3>to see how all these witnesses, even those who were

687
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.880
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent certain, could have seen another woman who

688
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.800
<v Speaker 3>looked a lot like Patricia and been mistaken. But overall, well,

689
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 3>I do think there's a good chance that Patrician never

690
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 3>made it off the Montana Prairie and died out there.

691
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>I also believe that this might be one of those

692
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:32.079
<v Speaker 3>rare missing person's cases where the victim was still alive

693
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 3>for a period of time after they vanished. That's why

694
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 3>when Unsolved Mysteries originally aired, Robert Stack sent out a

695
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.000
<v Speaker 3>public plea for Patricia to come forward if she was watching,

696
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.840
<v Speaker 3>and even assured her that no one was harmed in

697
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 3>the car accident and she wasn't going to face serious

698
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 3>legal trouble.

699
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 4>We do have.

700
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Cases where we hear, you know, years and decades later,

701
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>this person realizes, oh, that that person I'm looking for

702
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 2>is me. But like you said, Jules, it's incredibly rare.

703
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 2>It's more likely that Patricia met to me with foul play,

704
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 2>and that after she was struggling and making her way

705
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>from different points to different points, someone said, Wow, that

706
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>girl's really vulnerable and they took advantage of her. To me,

707
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>at this point, someone would say, Hey, that girl that

708
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 2>we know as Sarah really resembles this girl Patricia, and

709
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Sarah doesn't really know much about her background. Like I

710
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>feel like at this point, if Patricia was still alive,

711
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>someone or herself would eventually come to terms with that

712
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>is very strongly related to me or this friend that

713
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 2>I have. Just doesn't seem like she could survive without

714
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:46.280
<v Speaker 2>eventually having to get a job, have to find someone

715
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to bring her into their home, or to love her

716
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.199
<v Speaker 2>in some way where she wouldn't have to work. It

717
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>just you couldn't just stumble around forever in the way

718
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>that Patricia was doing.

719
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sadly, even though I do think it's possible that

720
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Patricia might have lived for a little while after the accident.

721
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 1>She probably never regained her memories, and it seems unlikely

722
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 1>that she is still alive today. It's possible that she

723
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.599
<v Speaker 1>could still be living as a transient out there somewhere,

724
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's difficult to be able to maintain that lifestyle

725
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>for nearly thirty five years, and given the amount of

726
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.559
<v Speaker 1>hitch hiking Patricia would have had to do. It's also possible,

727
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>like you said, that she could have met with foul

728
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 1>play by an unknown party. I still remember browsing the

729
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>web slues forum when that lead came up in twenty eleven,

730
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 1>involving the skull fragment for the Jane Doe in British Columbia.

731
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I was intrigued by the possibility that Patricia could have

732
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 1>crossed the border and become a murder victim of Robert Pickton,

733
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.159
<v Speaker 1>but the odds of this are not high. However, if

734
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Patricia is still alive out there somewhere, she would currently

735
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>be seventy two years old today, so I guess it's

736
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.679
<v Speaker 1>not completely impossible. So if you happen to have any

737
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 1>information about her whereabouts, please contact the McCombe County Sheriff's

738
00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Office at four oh six four eight five three four

739
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 1>zero five. That's four oh six four eight five three

740
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>four zero five, Jules Ashley, any final thoughts on this case?

741
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>These are the worst kinds of cases when you talk

742
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 2>about the risk of criminality and you talk about the

743
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>family's grief. They don't know what happened to their loved one,

744
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>right And like you said, Patricia be seventy two years

745
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:24.320
<v Speaker 2>old today, it's likely that parents and siblings are also

746
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 2>up in age or deceased at this point. But throughout

747
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.639
<v Speaker 2>their lifetime they were wondering what happened?

748
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 4>Where is she?

749
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>And is she still alive? Is she being her?

750
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Is she safe?

751
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>And so I think when you talk to survivors of

752
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 2>missing persons and homicides and cold case murders, they'll tell

753
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 2>you worst case scenario is that our loved one would

754
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 2>be missing and we wouldn't have a chance to bury them,

755
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't have a chance to bring them home and

756
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 2>heal them, and we wouldn't have a place to go

757
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 2>to honor them because we don't know if they're alive

758
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 2>or deceased. And so my heart breaks that throughout their lifetime,

759
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Patricia's family never had answers. It's also so disheartening to

760
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>know that Patricia wanted so badly to be better. She

761
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Speaker 2>was aware that she was struggling with her mental health.

762
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>She was seeking help at a time where that wasn't

763
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 2>actually as common as it is now, and she was

764
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>seeing a therapist. She was trying to make plans to

765
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.639
<v Speaker 2>get home to her family because her parents had created

766
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 2>that healthy, safe environment for her, and so it's just devastating.

767
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I think she got in that car that day and said,

768
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.159
<v Speaker 2>I will be at my parents' house whether they want

769
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>me to drive or not, and she never made it.

770
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this case really breaks my heart because I know

771
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 3>what it feels personally to be going through mental health crisis,

772
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 3>being that I am bipolar to you, and having that

773
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 3>feeling that you're losing control and needing that help. And

774
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.679
<v Speaker 3>Patricia reached out to her parents and was going to

775
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.239
<v Speaker 3>put herself in a safer situation where she would be

776
00:40:57.320 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 3>under the watchful eye of her parents, and I'm sure

777
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 3>that they could intervene and get her the right care

778
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 3>that she needed, because being accountable to yourself at that

779
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 3>time is something that feels impossible and we don't know

780
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 3>exactly what she was struggling with, but we can speculate

781
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:14.280
<v Speaker 3>based on the behavior here.

782
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 4>And it's just.

783
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 3>Heartbreaking that her family doesn't have her remains. They don't

784
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 3>know what happened. There's five thousand sightings to parse through,

785
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 3>and I agree with both Robin and Ashley. I think

786
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.360
<v Speaker 3>that she likely was. I think there's a strong probability

787
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 3>that she was alive for a period after her disappearance,

788
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 3>because some of these sightings are so specific and just

789
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 3>the details are quite granular, and they seem to be

790
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.679
<v Speaker 3>able to fit a woman who would have amnesia, who

791
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 3>had had a car crash, who felt that connection to Bozeman,

792
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 3>and I just don't think there would be that many

793
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 3>other people out there who also match her description. So

794
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 3>it is a really intriguing sighting. And I think after

795
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:59.679
<v Speaker 3>a certain amount of time, the more people that she

796
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>would expose yourself to in a situation like hitchhiking in

797
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>places like truck stops, the greater the probability that you

798
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 3>were going to come across somebody who has nefarious intentions.

799
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>So I think there is a strong likelihood that Patricia's

800
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:18.440
<v Speaker 3>was foul play, and unfortunately, without somebody coming forward, or

801
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>without somebody giving more information or her remains being found,

802
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 3>we just don't have those answers.

803
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I actually remember watching this case back on Unsolved

804
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Mysteries when originally aired. I think it was a couple

805
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>months less than a year after Patricia went missing, And

806
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I was always haunted by the re enactment of the

807
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>accident where they showed an actress playing Patricia walking over

808
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to the other driver and then just staring at her

809
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>before walking out into the prairie in the middle of

810
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.559
<v Speaker 1>the night. And I was also haunted by the aforementioned

811
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>self portrait of Patricia taking a photograph of herself in

812
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the mirror with that blank look on her face. And

813
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 1>at the time, there was a sense of urgency to

814
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this story because they felt this is one of the

815
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>few missing persons cases we profiled where there is a

816
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 1>legitimate chance that she's still alive out there somewhere. So

817
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>they're hoping that an eyewitness or perhaps even Patricia herself

818
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>would be watching and be able to direct the authorities

819
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to find her. But unfortunately that just didn't appear to

820
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>be the case, and no one knows what happened to her.

821
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Like we said, the chances of her still being alive

822
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>today are pretty much very minuscule. But even though in

823
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of these cases where someone wanders off

824
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>into a remote area, I do believe that they likely

825
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 1>died of exposure and the remains were not found, but

826
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>this is the exception. I do think that she probably

827
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.079
<v Speaker 1>hitched a ride at some point, and that a lot

828
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of the witnesses who did see her did genuinely did

829
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>see her. They were credible, and Patricia was just wandering

830
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>out somewhere with no memory of who she was. It

831
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is also possible that even if she wasn't murdered, she

832
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>could have died of natural causes and could be a

833
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Jane Doe somewhere lying in a morgue just completely unidentified,

834
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.519
<v Speaker 1>or maybe buried in a potter's grave somewhere. So I

835
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.639
<v Speaker 1>do hope that they have her DNA on file and

836
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 1>that if she did die while she was out there

837
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>living as a transient, they're able to get a match

838
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 1>for her someday, because her family definitely deserves answers.

839
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.559
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840
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