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Speaker 4: Coming, Good morning, Welcome everybody. It's that time again.
Speaker 7: At Connerton Unleashed and we are live from the studios
of wm NH ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester,
New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere.
Go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for all
of your streaming options and social media links and contact info,
et cetera, et cetera. Today is Saturday January eighteen two,
thy twenty five. That track that we open with that
is a band called Flair. They are in Glasgow and
that track is called Runaway. We're going to have them
on the show soon actually, but that is the American
radio premiere. You have not heard that anywhere else in
the US until today. But that is such a great
track and a great, great vibe. I love their sound,
so really looking forward to having those guys on, So
that will be soon. We've got a great show for
you today. Later on we've got Nancy Maney is going
to be joining us via Skype from Texas. And in
the third hour today we have our friend Quincy Lord.
He's going to come in and play a couple songs
and he's got a brand new album, will feature some
studio tracks as well, and he's just amazing, so it'll
be great to see him. But right now, joining us
for the first hour, we have Eleanor and Andre are here.
Are back and uh, you guys must be five timers
by now, right at least I believe so, I believe.
So we gotta have some jackets made. Yeah, yeah, well
we'll come up with something. But uh, yes from New
Hampshire Underground, newly rebranded New Hampshire Underground, So welcome back. Hellos,
absolutely hello, concerned everyone out there listening, Yes, yes, Uh, so,
what's so, what's been going on? Actually, uh, why don't
we Why don't we get caught up on New Hampshire Underground.
I love the new name. It certainly rolls off the
tongue much easier for me, you know, I remember I
used to stumble over the old name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone says the same thing, like as soon as
you say the new name, they stop and then their
eyes light up and they're like, that makes so much sense. Yeah, yeah,
it makes much more sense.
Speaker 7: Well also too because of Terminus Underground, so it's more
it's more consistent, you know, from a branding perspective, I
think so. Yeah, So, so tell us about the you know,
however much you want to say about the change and
the new new direction. I mean, obviously some things are
the same, you know, you still have Terminus, which is
an amazing venue. But but yeah, just kind of catch
us up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, things are actually much more cohesive now and the
vision is much clearer. So we just decided to take
it in a little bit of a different direction sort of,
you know, the same philosophy of really valuing the bands
and supporting the bands, but providing more services to them
as well. So we call ourselves now a micro entertainment complex.
Oh okay, and Andre can tell you a little bit
more about some of the features that we added.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we added a nice little I mean it's
a smaller room, you know, but I mean we all
know as musicians sometimes a small room can be the
magic room. Yeah, because it put you write in, everybody's
on top of each other, and like it puts that
creative energy in the space. But at the same time,
it's like a really just a lot of people can't
go and afford to say, rent a room by the
month that they're only going to go and maybe play two.
Speaker 7: Or three times a month, especially these days.
Speaker 8: So now it's providing a nice at least a small
room that's already got a drum set in there and
a mixing board pretty much a PA so you can
bring in a couple of amps. There's also a couple
of amps that are right there plug in. It make
it really easy for people to just come in and
be able to like practice a set before a show
or you know, do those little gig you get to
try out another musician, like oh, let's just get together
and we'll try it out here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, before you have.
Speaker 1: To commit to anything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so it makes sense. That's a nice little tool
that's been added. I don't know of another place around
here like that that has that kind of set up
or arrangement. Maybe there isn't. I just don't know.
Speaker 1: But private places too that are sometimes will come up
for rent. They're mostly occupied. But this is a nice
feature because it's so hard to find a jam space
that you've been rent by the hour or you know.
We do it by membership as well, so if you're
a member, it comes with the memberships level some of them.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you kind of get a gym membership a
music membership.
Speaker 7: Right, and you can come in and you know, if
you could put you could put a weight set and
a treadmill in there and kind of combine the concepts actually,
and musicians are always very health conscious, so no kidding.
Obviously they'll have the smoothing machine over in the corner.
That could be quite a niche.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other feature we added to is more
of a musician and artist lounge area. So before it
was mostly an office co working space. But I had
heard someone on line, you know, is there any place
I could just go and lounge that's not a bar
or a coffee shop and just read a book. And
I thought to myself, oh my god, that's perfect. I
could open this up is just that and someone, you know,
anyone could come and just read a book, or they
could do some art where they can you know, work
on their promotions. It is a co working space, but
it's also a lounge. So now it's a musician's and
artists lounge in addition to everything else.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, excellent. Now is this has this change been
fully implemented or okay?
Speaker 1: So yes, it's been fully implemented. And we're going to
launch our brand reopening parties. It's Tuesday, the twenty first, Yeah,
seven pm to eleven pm at one thirty four Haynes Street.
So we open. We're open to the public. It's going
to be an all ages event. We'll have two acoustic acts.
So actually Quincy Lord, who's coming in today is one
of our acoustic musicians. Excellent, Yeah, and Jesse Rhetstein is
another Nashua native acoustic music. And we're going to have
three artists on display in our gallery. We have Keegan
my art by kf Heagan Fitzgerald. Andre is going to
display some of his art and my mother who she's
actually blind in one eye. She's a fashion illustrator and
she's also an artist and she still paints, so we're
gonna show her work as well.
Speaker 7: Excellent.
Speaker 1: That'll just be a nice way for the community to
come in and see what we do and see what
we have to offer the community and musicians and artists.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, now that's great. So that's going to be Tuesday,
And of course Jenny and I. You invited Jenny and
I to go, so we're excited about that.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to see you.
Speaker 7: So Tuesday, starting at seven pm. Jesse Ratstein is that
I'm not familiar with him. He's a Nashville guy.
Speaker 1: He's a Nashville kind of more on the rock, rock
and roll kind of style. And yeah, we met him, well,
I think Andre's known him for a little while, but
I met him last year and he performed my fourth
of July Veterans event and it was awesome. He's a
great musician, great person.
Speaker 7: Very cool, very cool.
Speaker 1: He'll be enjoyable to you.
Speaker 7: And then are you already booking shows for Terminus for
the for the new year. Yeah, yeah, we're already in
that process and definitely.
Speaker 1: It's a big process.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we.
Speaker 8: Pretty much have like the show dates and everything that
we've been you know, talking about all the way into
the gumber, like the genre, like the what we want
to do, and now it's a matter of reaching out
to all the bands.
Speaker 1: That are to all one nine bands who submitted your epks.
Speaker 7: Or otherwise I excellent.
Speaker 8: So we'll be throwing out dates at bands because as
you know, I mean, it's like we also try to
curate the shows to an extent, you know. I mean
it's nice to have a nice mixed media show or
or a mixed genre show sometimes, but it's also nice
to have a nice focused show on, like whether it's
a metal night or a gothy night or a punk night. Yeah,
like sometimes people appreciate those having a little bit more
of a theme to itself.
Speaker 1: We'll be doing more themed events this here, because we
feel like that's very fun and there's a need for
it and there's certainly a draw for it. So we're
starting on three point thirty with our Night of the
Fools event, okay, which is kind of you know, fun,
like you know, if you're a juggalo, if you're a clown,
if you're a Fool if you want to just you know,
come out and have some fun with people that dress
up like Gesters. It's a night of music with Sunset Electric,
which is also Quincy Lords and dog Eate Dog is
going to grace us with their presence, and Questing Beast
is going to come back on this stage excellently excited.
And that is kind of a little bit more of
a variety, a little mix up, but it's Night of
the Fool, so it's meant to be like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and then the next one after that will be somewhat
of a punk rock metal masquerade. Yeah, okay, that'll be
in April twelfth.
Speaker 7: Okay. Cool. As you look back on twenty twenty four,
are there are there shows Terminus shows that really stand
out for twenty twenty four where you know, either either
because they just they were just really really good good performances,
or maybe surprises or maybe things that uh like maybe
you add crowds bigger than you expected for shows or
anything like that, Like what what stands out for the
past year.
Speaker 8: There's for me, I feel there are about definitely three
of them that stood out. Yeah, one was Green Jello,
Green Jelly or Green jelly.
Speaker 7: Jelly the air apparently, well it doesn't matter at this point.
I understand whoever makes jello doesn't.
Speaker 8: But that was just I mean, that was crazy intense
of anticipation of what is what's going to happen here?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, could we handle it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: With our small and surprisingly it went over like it
was just an nutty night, Like to see the amount
of those blow up on creatures all over the place,
the insane amount pool noodles in the room.
Speaker 1: Express.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that in itself was a really good night.
The night Geary came up and place it was another
great night.
Speaker 7: So but yeah, that that was. And then trying to think, oh, Vigil,
I wish I could get the guttural that Dave does.
Speaker 1: But Vigil is one of my favorites.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there there, I haven't I haven't had a chance
to see them live yet, but you will. They were.
They were great on the show when they came in
and and had a vinyl final record, which was really
cool for sure. Yeah, is that the Is that the
third one you were thinking of?
Speaker 9: It was not.
Speaker 7: It was the one that the one that HATI hate.
Speaker 1: Oh yes from New York.
Speaker 8: Oh yes, those guys. Those guys completely brought it to Yeah,
I'm not familiar with them, and that was a great night.
Like musically, sonically it was.
Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, they're a metal band. We have a
nice metal connection with Rick Horton up at Metal Onslaught
Radio up in Upstate New York. So the whole Ithaca
area in Upstate New York is a phenomenal metal scene,
very tight knit, well coordinated. Everyone supports each other. And
Rick had gotten in touch with me Haitians on tour.
They're like a post metal band, okay, and they want
to play Terminus And they were one of the first
like outside of our you know, local venues or local
bands that contacted us. And yeah, they brought their a game.
They were wonderful people. And that's the kind of people
we consistently get at Terminus. We get nice, kind, wonderful
artists and musicians that we just end up loving and
calling part of our family.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, has there been anybody who you weren't expecting
them to necessarily bring a lot of peace people and
then it wound up being a sold out show or
anything like that, any fun surprise like that where you go, wow,
I didn't expect this to be as successful as it is,
I mean.
Speaker 1: All of them. To me, success is relative, like success
doesn't mean numbers to me. Yeah, that's the problem with
this world, in my opinion, in the industry, is that
numbers mean so much to everybody all the time that
they lose sight of what we're trying to do here.
And for us, it's trying to support the music scene, right.
And we just had this conversation because I have a
new intern. Her name is Simsir, and she's extremely good
and extremely perceptive, and one of her conversations with me was,
you know, what about the people that bring in low numbers,
and you know, we we should always make sure that
we have everyone who has a strong social media presence
and has you know, lots of numbers to And I'm like, yeah,
of course, you know, that's a really good point. But
at the same time, I also want to keep it
open for people who are just starting out right, just
beginning to develop, so I can help them, right, And
so it doesn't help me and my mission to just
think about how many people as a success.
Speaker 7: Oh of course, it's more did.
Speaker 1: People have a wonderful time? Are they going to talk
about this forever. Are they going to be a customer
of mine forever? So that's kind of like my whole
philosophy is of support and service to the community and
not trying to you know, see things from a completely
cold analytics standpoint.
Speaker 7: Right right now. Yeah, I get it. I mean it's
kind of like with this with this show, you know,
I mean, you know, we have a lot of guests
who have a great media social media presence and and
uh and really are you know, on a very much
an upward trajectory in their career. But yeah, but we
also have sometimes we have guests who are just starting out,
you know, and and you know, and and we don't
discriminate in that way because it's a you know, especially
it's it's what's really uh excuse me. What's really nice
is like when we have somebody on the show and
maybe they're just starting out, and then we have them
on again maybe a year or two years later, you know,
and they've really made a lot of progress. And it's like,
you know, because sometimes sometimes all musician needs is someone
to believe in them, you know, and to give them
an opportunity to try to you know, because I hear
so many people say and I'm sure you both have
as well that you know, Yeah, I want to get
into the music scene. I want to play. I don't
know where to start, especially if they're a solo act.
Speaker 1: That's when I asked them to just give me a
call and I can sit down with them and I
can help them figure out a pathway.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean at the same time, everything's in experience,
you know, so that it's yeah, we may have had
some shows that had like, you know, ten fewer people
than like one of the really full nights. We have
a small capacity, right, it's like even once we start
getting fifty people in there, it's like we got a
packed house.
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 8: And at the same same time, it's like it's such
an important thing to me as a musician to see
the people that are coming there to catch that show,
gaining that memory and that experience that it was just
an amazing thing. Nobody leaves that place without saying to somebody,
this place is awesome, the music was awesome, this is
every this is great doing what you're doing because this
is what people need.
Speaker 1: We've never had a show, sorry, never had a show
that I got.
Speaker 7: That that's okay, Although all the times you've been on,
that's the first for you.
Speaker 1: Usually pretty good.
Speaker 7: I don't know all that's all right, but that's why
we're that's why we're on a delay.
Speaker 1: Catch.
Speaker 7: We have these potty mouth music types.
Speaker 8: I'm usually the worst one about it. I'm like, but oh, well,
you know, it's funny though.
Speaker 7: I was just talking to I was talking with somebody
about this last night actually, when we had a green
jelly green jello on the show. I think I I
think I hit the dump button like four times.
Speaker 3: That doesn't.
Speaker 7: And it wasn't and it wasn't even like swearing. It
was just like, oh, that joke may have gone a
little far, and I, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I people filter.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he definitely had something because he was
he was trying. He understood he was on the radio
and he's a pro, so he wasn't intentionally, you know,
trying to. I just feel so yeah, yeah, no, I
get it, I get it. We should talk to about
the kind of the the educational aspect of what you
do and then and the mentoring really go ahead.
Speaker 1: No, I just wanted to actually also say in the
vein of giving people their first shot, which is hard
in the bar, or club scene because they want to
know who you're bringing, how much money you're going to
make them. What I'd like to do this summer is
open up what I call from school to stage. And
there's a lot of people who are still in high
school or who are maybe eighteen in the college age,
who can't play the bar scene or the clubs just yet,
and there's not very many places for them to play.
So I am going to open up from school to
stage and have a launching point for all ages shows
this summer just as a series. I'm hoping to partner
with Nashville's School of Rock, which just opened up this
last month, and have some of their musicians and students
who are also in bands perform from School of Rock
to our Terminus underground stage, and I think that'll be
a good platform to get people used to being in
a stage environment, in a professional stage environment before they
get to, you know, the next level.
Speaker 7: That's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We're excited because there's a lot of like you know,
punk rock shows that are all ages, and we haven't
had that opportunity to do that yet, so it's kind
of you know, that's the next step for us do
things we didn't do last year?
Speaker 7: What's what's like the probably hard to pinpoint, but like
what what's the biggest thing or maybe a couple of
things that you run into with, especially with musicians just
starting out that they need help with, like what are
what are maybe some things that most people just don't
understand and you have to kind of help them and
mentor them with some.
Speaker 1: People don't understand anything. Yeah, oh my goodness. Well I've
been at it for twenty five years. So the language
that I've learned over the course of you know, being
the foundation of my own musicianship as a musician for
the past well, I've been a musician since I was
eight years old, but a sort of professional leaning working
musician was for about seven years of my life in
the two thousands. But from that point and then learning
all of the things I learned when I went to
Berkeley School of Music for music business. I speak a
language that people don't speak. So there's racronyms, and you know,
people are like what's ASCAP, what's BMI, what's a pro?
So those are the things that I teach. So the
foundational knowledge of how to communicate the language, so to
understand what a booking agent is versus a promoter versus
you know, a talent buyer. You know, they're all kind
of similar, but there are differences, so people don't know
those things. Yeah, what's an ePK? How do I create
a press skit? What's my best method for getting my
music out there? Do I need to be all over
the place or do I just go on Spotify? So
there's a lot of different questions. And then there's also
the level of data analytics drilling down into their you know,
websites or marketing schematics and so from like nuts to bolts,
I can teach you everything to a point. You know,
at some point I want to let you go, so
you do it yourself, right, because that's what we can
do these days. The beauty of what our industry has
become is that now we can do it ourselves. But
if you don't know how, you're going to struggle. And
some of the people that I am working with now
have been musicians for twenty years but never knew how
to get any of that out of themselves. Yeah, six
Minds Combined is a perfect example. He is an amazing artist,
a hip hop artist, and he never knew how to launch,
and now he's doing so well. And it's just a
matter of six months that we've been working together, maybe
a little over that. It might be a year now,
but he's doing so well because now he knows what
to do.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmmmm.
Speaker 7: That's excellent and he's great. He's That song running through
a Mansion is on my list of you know, like
I think a lot of us, I always have a
song in my head when I wake up in the morning,
you know what I mean. There's always something in my
head and that song is is one of those songs
on that list of songs that that that I might
have running while running through when I when I first
wake up in the morning. What do you ever run
into anybody who has like they think they they think
they know, they think they understand the process, so to speak.
But they but they have kind of an old school idea,
like like you run into people who still think I
always you. You may have at some point heard heard
this rant from me over the years. I've always liked
to talk about the mythical record company scout you know
who you because someone who thinks that and I run
into this far lesson. I used to certainly. But you
know somebody who thinks that, Okay, my band, we're gonna play.
We're gonna play this bar every weekend, and one of
these weekends a record company scout is going to happen
to wander in and they're gonna be so impressed with us.
They're gonna sign us to this major label ten album deal,
and they're gonna fly us out, and we're gonna stay
in the Playboy mansion. Uh while we make our album
and we're gonna hang out.
Speaker 1: What year are you thinking, I guess, And we're gonna
we're gonna hang out with supermodels and and we're gonna
be millionaires.
Speaker 7: And because that's obviously how it works, I don't really
run into that anymore, but but there are that's kind
of I mean a little bit hyperbolic about it. But
but do you run into that? People just have like
these old ideas.
Speaker 1: And well, I'm what I run into a lot, And
I think what we recently have run into is people
who have a negative perspective because of their past, you know,
associations with the industry itself. They haven't learned how to
move forward and understand that the future isn't what it
was ten twenty years ago, and so you are were
responsible for making our own way and our futures. So
I feel like a lot of people get stuck like, oh,
you know, I'm not able to move forward into this.
So there's like, yeah, kind of that where they think
that nothing happens or nothing is happening and no one
does anything. But no, that's not true. You're just not
in it anymore.
Speaker 7: I guess, right, right, I guess what what would be
the modern day version of what I what I just described.
I guess it would be like the person who think, like,
do you ever run into somebody who thinks maybe they're
maybe they're kind of thinking too much the other way
where they think I need to be well, I need
to be an influencer, like I need to uh while TikTok.
I guess it is about to go dark. But but
I but you know, but the person who thinks if
I can just like get a viral, if I can
go viral, then my music will be successful because whatever
I go viral for it doesn't even necessarily have to
be my music. I just have to go viral, and
then I'm going to be this, you know, and then
I'll I'll get that ten album deal nobody gets anymore
or something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it does take work in all avenues.
Whether or not you intend to go viral or not,
you still have to do the work and there's certain
methodologies in order for that to be successful. We don't
know all the secrets, but we have some of them
over at New Hampshire Underground. Yeah, you know, we know
how to work the analytics and how to work the
programs and how to you know, get things going. But
I can't say that I would be the cure all
for anybody. If you're thinking that route. A lot of
it is within you.
Speaker 7: You know, you have to do the work exactly. Yeah,
that's the thing too. People some people think some people think, well,
I'm so talented, I don't have to do the work.
I deserve to be successful, you know, and then they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of people who think like that,
and no, it doesn't work that way. Unfortunately. You can't
just sit there and look pretty right right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No, there is a there's a lot of that.
And what's the expression, every overnight success was years in
the making, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I mean everybody has to hone their
craft too. I know, there's it's a lot easier these
days to do your craft and record and make it yourself,
but you just have to keep working at it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, like Dead Harrison, Yeah yeah, absolutely, yeah,
you guys have been how long has that Harrison been
around now? Fifteen sixteen years?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, I mean And that's the thing is.
Speaker 8: Like taking that's also another educational part of like she
may be doing more of that back end the you know,
the the work that you need to the behind the
back end of the business stuff of what you can
do as a musician. Yeah, whereas I'm able to take
my experiences and even like being the guy that's running
sound when Katie was there running sound, even like even
I was having an open mind, like watching some of
the things that she was doing and paying attention to
and how can so for me. It's also educating people
on how to communicate with the sound person, yep, because
so many times, how many venues that you're just like
you don't know what to say, you don't know how
to communicate with that person, what you may need and
your monitor friends, yourself and sometimes it's even having that
prideful attitude of being like I want this, I need this,
I got to have no open up a dialogue with
the sound person. You wonder why the sound people are
all grumpy and jaded. Yes, because they're sick of dealing
with idiots. Yes, So open up your mind a little
bit and learn about what's going on on the other end. Also,
we can focus on being like good musicians, but it's
also good to have that back end knowledge of like,
what's that guy, what's his job back there? How can
I help him so that it can make us also
sound really great?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 8: Good communication is key and then once you got everybody
like all happy with their sound on stage, then you
pump it out. But I think that that's the thing
is also teaching people to understand like how to get
things set up, how to start working a soundboard. Hey,
here's how you set up your monitors. Hear, how you
set up your systems. You can keep track of all
this stuff. Here's what your gains are. Here's where you
want to kind of keep your eques and think about
your equalizer in the sense of each instrument. Each thing
has its own space that it occupies in the EQ range.
So you can clean your sound up a lot when
you pull the unneeded frequencies out of the things.
Speaker 1: Anybody wants to learn and teaching, yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And that's the thing.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's stuff that's going to be happening where,
you know, whether or not I'm going on a show
or doing something else. I want to be training people
how to run sound, and not just how to run sound,
but how to run it good. Yeah, how to communicate
with the band, all the things to pay attention to
so that you're not going to blow fuses ye, or
you're not going to blow your piasis.
Speaker 1: We are hiring at Terminus Underground right now for a
sound engineer or sound tech to do gigs with us
and for us because Andre probably will be going on tour,
going out there, you know, and doing other shows, so
we are going to need some backups. So if anybody
is interested, email us at New Hampshire Underground at gmail
dot com.
Speaker 7: I wish I could split myself into many pieces. No,
it's a great point though about it, And like you said,
I want to make friends with the sound guy because
or a sound woman, which are very very few.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Katie Read. She's one of the best
in the industry.
Speaker 7: Oh, she does a great job. Yeah, absolutely, I've seen.
I'm sure all three of us have seen countless examples
of like you know, like you were saying, andre, like
people getting impatient with the sound guy, or not being
as pleasant as and professional as the should be. And
whenever I see that, I think, the thought that goes
through my head is the same thing whenever somebody is
rude in a restaurant to the wait staff or anybody.
It's like, you know, before they even get their food,
you shouldn't do that for two, well two reasons, one
of them obvious, because you just shouldn't be rude to people.
Number one. Yeah, but number two, you're being rude to
somebody who if they want to, they can spit in
your food and you'll never know it, you know what
I mean. I mean, I personally have never worked in
a restaurant, but the stories I've heard about how people
who are rude are dealt with.
Speaker 1: Let me wipe my meat on your meat on my shoes.
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 7: So it's so it's so crazy, like like to ever,
you know, be rude to anybody working in food service,
but especially before you actually get your food. So I
think the same thing whenever I see somebody dealing with
a sound person, you know, and they're not being professional
and they're not being kind or patient or whatever. It's like,
well that sound person has they hold your set in
their hands. They can make you sound terrible if they
want to.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Or they could fall asleep at the soundboard, which I
have seen.
Speaker 7: I haven't seen that. You've seen that really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that in Boston. But in his defense,
he actually was a very good sound person. He might
just have had an earcolepsy.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just we teach those professional behaviors over at New Hampshire Underground.
We teach professionalism over there and professional courtesy and how
to communicate effectively. So anyone who wants to learn the
ropes about how to work within the music industry, how
to build relationships, how to network appropriately, that's something that
is totally teachable. Yeah, and we'll be doing more workshops,
like we have one on one sessions over there, and
some people like six Minds combined in the Whole Loaf
and Ed Harrison or VIP members of Terminus I mean
of New Hampshire Underground, so they get like the top
level of consulting with me, but then we have group
sessions that we'll be doing as well, that it might
be a little bit more cost effective for some people.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I think that's excellent. By the way, So
we've got some folks in the chat room I want
to say hello to. One of them is Lewis Tyvee,
and he made a couple of great comments. But I
also for those watching online, I got to put the.
Speaker 1: Whoops, I see Lacy online.
Speaker 7: High Lacey, I gotta put the camera. Okay, I put
the camera back on me for a moment because I
happened to be wearing the shirt, the wonderful shirt our
friend Lewis Tyvee from across the Pond, very talented musician,
and this happens to be the shirt that I grabbed
this morning. He sent us an entire care package of
shirt and buttons and CDs and the whole deal. So
but yeah, he's been a big supporter of the show.
We'll have to definitely have to have him on. Let's
see I see Lacey yup New Hampshire Underground. Oh that's
another who I am. That's another one of those songs
that I get that I wake up with in my head.
Let's go that when it's time to run. Yeah, let
me know when it's time to rock, let me know
when it's time to rock. I often wake up with
that song in my head too. It's it's quite infectious. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Lacey's a musician member of New Hampshire Underground, so that
means that she gets access to the community jam space
as well as the artists and musician love.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, excellent. So Lewis Tivee says, can confirm I've
played a few shows that got sabotaged by the sound
guy and venue owner too. Yeah, that that can happen.
And he also said absolutely hate the influencer culture. It
really cuts into the fun of the music making process
and it dilutes the artist in my opinion, because you're
competing with people posting goodness knows what, which seems which
seems to get endless engagement, but the average person doesn't
seem as interested in indie music anymore. We're going to
get to a stage, We're going to get to a
stage where all we have is classic rock, et cetera.
It's hard to compete with wealthy artists who can afford
the expensive promotions et cetera kind of how it's always
been going away, right, I mean it's always been you
have to compete with whoever has the money, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess that is if you're talking about
mainstream music. I think that's absolutely true. But I'm not
ever talking about mainstream music. I'm talking about something entirely different.
Underground music. Independent music is outside the mainstream perview. You're
never going to get to that level. It's just like
us in Nashua with the Nashuast Center of Performing Arts.
They are the center for performing arts for the mainstream
bands and artists coming into the city. They want nothing
to do with local music. They want nothing to do
with underground music. It's just not in their purview because
it's not a money maker for them and they don't
see it as a viable industry. So therefore, what else
are we going to do? So I'm going to take
the horns and I'm going to create my own micro
entertainment center that's created for underground artists and indie musicians
to thrive in. And it might not be as big
and as you know, lucrative in that way as the
mainstream operations, but it might be more successful in other ways,
and I think people need to redefine their levels of
success in their minds. I know some people really do
like six minds combined. He wants to be a millionaire,
and that's valid. We just have to do the work so,
you know, we can. We only get out so much
as what we put in, and it's all within our control.
And if we don't have the money, then we can't
be a millionaire necessarily. So if we're not making money,
we can't. You know, if you're not spending money, you
can't make money, right. So there's a lot of business
principles that I think people forget in this industry. They're
in it, but they don't understand it and they don't
understand how to make money out of it. And I've
helped people make money, and I've made money myself in
this industry. But it's not what you think it is.
It's not those you know, millions of dollars flashy cars.
It's sort of more of like a satisfaction that I'm
able to feed myself and do what I need to do,
and then I have freedom.
Speaker 7: Right right to do what I love. Bruce Heberlin is
in the Facebook live chat of course from a legion
of Solace, another organization that does music promotion, and Bruce
says Green Jello is booking for twenty twenty five. Bring
them back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to have them back.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Terminus Underground got a little spot for marketing on
the Pool Middle Express bus, the tour bus. That was
really fun.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome. Jenny of course is in
the chat room and sends the heart good morning, Jenny. Yeah, Jenny,
Jenny had quite a week, so if you follow her
social media, you know she's been doing some great stuff.
Speaker 1: But Jenny, thank you. We're so proud of you. Thank
you so much for standing up for people.
Speaker 7: Absolute. Yeah, it's important. And uh oh. Jason Patterson, of course,
one of our great friends from the state of Vermont,
is in there. Hello. And I can't read that question
on the air, but the phrase new direction, I think
he misunderstood it. V Pinarda, also in the chat room,
says good morning everyone. Ready for three to six inches
of snow? I think here. I think we're just getting
rain here unless something has changed, but of course we
won't know when is this snow happening. I think tonight
maybe no, but I think I think just up north
they're getting I think I think here it's going to
be rain. We've been lucky.
Speaker 1: We have been lucky. It's been very mild winter so far.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's been cold, but I'd rather have
it cold and dry than snowy and icy and all
of that, all of that awfulness.
Speaker 1: Uh what I was going to say, that's one of
the reasons why Terminus Underground is only open and after
March is because we have this really horrible hill that
gets very icy.
Speaker 7: Oh I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 1: Even if you plow, it still has ice patches that
aren't very safe, and we just want to make sure
our community is safe. Yeah, but it also gives us
time to reflect on the year and kind of regroup
two and and make things even better. But at the
same time, yeah, it's a lot of safety issues.
Speaker 7: That part never occurred to me. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I mean that's another overhead expense if you're
going to have you know, people come in and clout
and salt. Yeah, even for me, if I have to
do the salting out of pocket, that's a big area
to salt. Yes, it is Yeah, that's all. That's some
that's some pallets of salt that I have to actually
have over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just like that's funny. Yeah, I didn't even
think of that. Yeah, so very good. Yeah if you
are just joining as Eleanor and andre Or here with
us talking all about New Hampshire Underground and of course
Terminus Underground and we should uh oh, I see who
I am is in this chat room now we had
we kind of have to chat the way because we're
signing it out various places and people show up various places,
which is good. Oh and I see Sim's here. Good
morning everyone. I said that correctly, Is it Sims?
Speaker 10: Sir?
Speaker 1: I figured, yeah, it's like sir and Marcy from what
was that the Peanuts?
Speaker 8: I thought, oh okay, yeah yeah, and for me, I
just remember here lumber Oh okay, I kind of spelt
the same way.
Speaker 7: Ye okay, no whatever works. Also, uh yeah, you see
your Khan is in the chat room, and uh said
uh from Pakistan? Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 1: I see Karen Beatty from More in the Light and
John Willett from Stone Shadows.
Speaker 7: Oh very good guys. Thanks for More in the Lights.
Such a great band. I don't know, Stone Shadows.
Speaker 1: They're Brandy new and Stone or rock Stoner Metal. They're
in the building and they're going to launch it Terminus,
I believe in May.
Speaker 7: Excellent. Oh, very cool, good, good good? So what now
have you announced the obviously there's the what do you
what do you call it? You're not calling it a
grand reopening.
Speaker 1: Reopening party, okay, So it'll be a tour. You get
to it's an open house, have cheese and wines, and
then we'll do a tour of Terminus underground, the club
and the musician and artists lounge. You'll get to see
that in the workshop podcast space that we have. So
we have more of like a multipurpose space in the
second room now which can be used either for art
workshops or podcasting. And then downstairs is the community jam space.
So we'll give you a full tour, we can talk
about membership and what that entails. It's very accessible because
there's all sorts of prices price levels for you know,
whatever you're looking to do with yourself or your music career.
If you're just looking for a place to hang out,
it can be as low as twenty dollars a month.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are going to talk about that and some
of the upcoming opportunities to join us as a volunteer
if you want to.
Speaker 7: Yeah, excellent. So that's so the open house. So that's Tuesday,
just to remind people, Tuesday from seven to eleven.
Speaker 1: Yep, Tuesday, the twenty first, from seven pm to eleven,
we're going to have our grand reopening party for the
newly branded new Hampshire Underground Outstanding.
Speaker 7: Not really looking forward to that. And so Quincy Lord
is playing.
Speaker 1: That and jess Bessie Redstein Jessie Rhetstein, Yeah, both acoustic
rock guitar players. And we're going to have three artists
on display at our gallery. So Andre's one of them.
He does a lot of geometric inspired art based on
the Fibonacci sequence. And my mother, Brenda Drew, she's a designer.
She was a fashion designer in New York. Now she
does fashion illustrations. She's blind in one eye, so okay,
we're going to display her art. And then Keegan Fitzgerald
is our resident Rockstar member artist and her art is
already in the gallery, but she's gonna have even more
on display and for sale, and so I would just
welcome everyone to bring you know yourselves, your families, come
check it out. It's really cool. It's not a very
big space. We can only have about fifty per the
fire Marshal, but we definitely have the vibes that people
are needing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And where should people go? You've got a
new website for the uh yeah address. Well, the physical
address is one thirty four Hain Street. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: The web address New Hampshire Underground dot org. So it's
pretty simple. It's a dot org because eventually I'd like
to become a nonprofit and we can support even more
artists and musicians and get grant funding from We have
a City Grant Arts Commission, so they are grant money
from the city for local art organizations, and then there's
state funding and also federal funding available for artists and
musicians that it's very difficult to tap unless you are
a nonprofit. So that's the direction that we're planning on
going in Right now, we're sole proprietorship, but we want
to kind of level the playing field. So every time
someone comes and plays at Terminus, everybody gets paid. We
all split it evenly. It's not like you know, you
get seven dollars because you showed up in the club
didn't do their job right. Emotions. Everybody has to pay
a ticket price of fifteen dollars or twenty for our
vipizza vip tickets, and we split it all evenly between us,
the sound person and the bands. So you know, it's
good because people are there to have a good time,
but then they're making a little bit to take home
with them as well.
Speaker 8: Yes, everybody's doing work, yeah, exactly, exactly. It's definitely not
about making a profit. It's about everybody is worth something, right,
like all the work that we do, you know. So
it's good all across the board because it gives everybody
that incentive.
Speaker 1: We need everyone to feel valued and valuable because we're
sick of the industry standards. We ran into industry standards
a few months ago and I'm still I would like
to break the status quo where the headliner comes in
and they're the only people that get paid and they're
the only people that matter, even though they only came
in ten minutes before they're set, and they never supported
the show and they never advertised, and everybody else worked
so hard and they got screwed am I allowed to
say that, Yes you are because someone got greedy and
we're not going to do that. I'm never going to
do that to anyone. I'm never going to just you know,
capitalize on something that should be shared wealth.
Speaker 7: Yeah, excellent, right guys, right, No, that's that's outstanding.
Speaker 1: Can stand it. I mean, I feel like sometimes the
mother of dragons, and I've gotten called recently. I'm like
Lady Red Queen. I'm like, I'm gonna be the mother
of dragons. I'm going to get on my dragon. I'm
going to flame this industry down and I'm not going
to stop until I change the status quo.
Speaker 7: There you go, there you go. Very good. Oh, by
the way, hello to Aaron Milladough who I see in
the Facebook chat. Excellent. Well, we gotta we gotta wrap
up the segment. I'm thinking I'm actually gonna play I'm
gonna play a Dead Harrison song. I'm thinking about actually
playing Monolith Lord. Oh there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the best song. I love that song.
Speaker 7: Do yeah. Yeah, I think we'll I think we'll go
with that. But thank you both so much of course. Uh.
New Hampshire Underground very excited for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And yeah, come on down John thirty four Haynes Street.
Speaker 7: Jenny and I will be there Tuesday night. Really looking
forward to that. So in New Hampshire. Underground dot org
is the new website. Check that out, eleanor Andre. Thank
you both so much. Thank you for having us here,
absolutely and we will.
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