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<v Speaker 1>In the mid nineteen sixties, friends offered our family use

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<v Speaker 1>of their cabin in the Great Basin near Baca, Nevada,

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<v Speaker 1>only a few hours drive from our home in Eli.

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<v Speaker 1>That part of the country is mostly barren, with a

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<v Speaker 1>few pockets of beauty and mystery. It's where most of

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada's rivers and streams go to did disappearing into the

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<v Speaker 1>dry basin, only to tragically flow into the Great Salt Lake.

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<v Speaker 1>We were financially challenged, not homeless or starving, but we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely struggled and had some very lean times. It felt

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<v Speaker 1>really good to tell people that we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>the cabin. However, it wasn't the quaint, rustic lakeside log

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<v Speaker 1>cabin or alpine chalet that one might have envisioned. After

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<v Speaker 1>what seemed like a really long drive of some over

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<v Speaker 1>rutted dirt roads up through a small canyon, we reached

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny, ramshackle framed house. This pitiful thing looked a

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<v Speaker 1>very out of place, and there wasn't another structure anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>that we could see. I was momentarily disenchanted. The cabin

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<v Speaker 1>consisted of only one room. At one side, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a big iron stove, possibly a few cabinets. It had

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<v Speaker 1>no running water or electricity. It had at least one

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<v Speaker 1>window on each side and two doors front and back.

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<v Speaker 1>The ladder opened onto a short path that led to

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<v Speaker 1>a small creek surrounded by shade trees. Because of the

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<v Speaker 1>property slope, they had leveled the cabin using pallets and

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<v Speaker 1>shims on the downhill side. This made the front left

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<v Speaker 1>side stand off the ground a couple of feet, making

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<v Speaker 1>the windows on the sides fairly high up to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>walking along. There wasn't much in the way of furnishings.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of old metal bed frames that someone had

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<v Speaker 1>placed sheets of plywood on, and those served as couches

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<v Speaker 1>and beds. Using sawhorses and wood slats, we made a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny table by removing the plywood sheet, setting a sawhorse

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, and adding a one by six slant

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<v Speaker 1>to each end for seating, and replacing the plywood crossways

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<v Speaker 1>on the sawhorse for a table. Out there. We never

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<v Speaker 1>encountered people. We never even saw another car. A badger

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<v Speaker 1>would always pop up out of its burrow by the

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<v Speaker 1>road to race our car as we neared the cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>and as soon as he gave up the chase, he

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<v Speaker 1>would duck back down in another hole. Our friend the badger,

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the highlights of our visit. Mom watched

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<v Speaker 1>out for him and would call out to us when

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<v Speaker 1>she spotted him so we didn't miss out. She would

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<v Speaker 1>slow down for a bit for him to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as he could. Inside the cabin at night,

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<v Speaker 1>mice would skid her back and forth over the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the daylight you could see their tiny prints

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<v Speaker 1>in the dust. It was a little unnerving to hear

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<v Speaker 1>them scurrying about at night. We really didn't mind the

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<v Speaker 1>isolation so much, though. My three sisters and I love

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<v Speaker 1>being out in the wilderness and roughing it. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as my parents were concerned, the more remote the better.

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<v Speaker 1>They hated sharing the great outdoors, and with few exceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>camping and hiking were pretty much the only kind of

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<v Speaker 1>vacation our family ever took. One day, we realized that

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<v Speaker 1>we could dam up the creek with rocks to create

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<v Speaker 1>a little pool for us to sit in, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a hot tub, only filled with the icy mountain

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<v Speaker 1>runoff on a hot day. It was divine. Overspill allowed

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<v Speaker 1>the creek to still float within hiking distance. There was

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<v Speaker 1>an abandoned garnet mine that reportedly had belonged to Alfred Hitchcock.

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<v Speaker 1>We climbed huge dunes of garnets, where we had hoped

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<v Speaker 1>to see shiny rids. We found heaps of dusky maroon pebbles,

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than BB's in rough in texture, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>tried to polish one, I think there might not be

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<v Speaker 1>anything left. Possibly the larger stones had been extracted, leaving

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<v Speaker 1>these which were likely industrial grade, if of any value.

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<v Speaker 1>We had many happy stays at the cabin through the years,

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<v Speaker 1>even when some of us were entering our teens, we

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<v Speaker 1>still look forward to going. In the spring or summer

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen seventy one, after the four of us had

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<v Speaker 1>been staying with our grandparents, we were excited and waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for our mom to pick us up because she had

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<v Speaker 1>promised we'd go straight to the cabin. When mom arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>we virtually pounced on her, our excitement running over. She

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<v Speaker 1>seemed oddly reticent. I got the impression that she was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping we'd forgotten. Before leaving, we had lunch where the

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<v Speaker 1>subject of bigfoot came up. Our grandmother had started buying

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<v Speaker 1>the National Inquirer. We had never seen a more Outrageous magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>and the issue that we were most fascinated with was

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<v Speaker 1>the one about the notorious Bigfoot creature. There were stills

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<v Speaker 1>from the Patterson Gimlin film, artist depictions and eyewitness accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>and photos of tracks that had been cast in maps

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<v Speaker 1>that showed the locations of sightings. Our mother seemed a

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<v Speaker 1>little bothered by the topic, and she kept trying to

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<v Speaker 1>steer the conversation away from Bigfoot. Most of the drive

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<v Speaker 1>to the cabin was unremarkable, but because I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a pest and I realized the topic of Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>made Mom uneasy, I continued to talk about it. My

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<v Speaker 1>sisters picked up on my cues and joined in on

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<v Speaker 1>the ruse. In our minds, we were just having some

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<v Speaker 1>harmless fun and Mom listened, tight lipped, but finally retorted, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just out there in California. It's not here. Oh no, oh, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, they say they're seeing them all over now,

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<v Speaker 1>even in Nevada. Of course I hadn't read or heard

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<v Speaker 1>any such thing, but she went quiet again, so we

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<v Speaker 1>decided to stop torturing her, and we soon forgot about

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<v Speaker 1>it all For the rest of the drive. We took

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<v Speaker 1>it in turns arguing and singing annoying road trip songs,

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<v Speaker 1>or napping. We all perked up. However, when our faithful

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<v Speaker 1>friend the Badger popped out of his burrow beside the

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<v Speaker 1>road for a race he had never disappointed us. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>seemed right for the moment. Our spirits dampened. However, when

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<v Speaker 1>we saw the sorry state of our favorite getaway. The

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<v Speaker 1>back door had been completely torn off and tossed down

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<v Speaker 1>the hill, and the hinges were bent and twisted from

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<v Speaker 1>the violent removal. There was no way we could set

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<v Speaker 1>it back in, even if we had the tools, which

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<v Speaker 1>we did not. The interior was full of leaves and

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<v Speaker 1>dirt that had blown in. Sweeping the floor, we could

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<v Speaker 1>see dried mud that had been tracked in. Mom was

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<v Speaker 1>dismissive and said that she heard that hunters had been

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<v Speaker 1>using the cabin. I wonder why they tore the back

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<v Speaker 1>door off, because it was never locked. Even if it

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<v Speaker 1>had been, they could have just broken the lock. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>deer season was pretty cold, you'd think hunters would appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>a door. Anyway, We shrugged it off and cleaned it

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<v Speaker 1>up and went out to our pool for a dip.

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<v Speaker 1>Our dam had been broken up in the preceding year

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<v Speaker 1>during reconstruction, we silently cussed out those rude hunters. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the first time my favorite outdoor area had been

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<v Speaker 1>spoiled by hunters, so we didn't think much more about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It got dark and Mom's anxiety returned and intensified as

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<v Speaker 1>the night wore on. We attacked a large sheet of

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<v Speaker 1>heavy plastic she had found to cover the doorway. We

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<v Speaker 1>hung it like a curtain. After dinner, we went to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone except Mom. She stayed up all night stoking the

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<v Speaker 1>fire and the old iron coal and wood stove. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a light sleeper and kept waking up because I

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<v Speaker 1>heard her pacing now and then she'd rush over and

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<v Speaker 1>she'd ask, are you okay? Are you girls okay? It

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<v Speaker 1>was a little annoying, but I'd assure her that we

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<v Speaker 1>were finding the plywood mattress was comfortable, and surprisingly it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at that point I began to feel guilty

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<v Speaker 1>for filling her head with the Bigfoot stories. But I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought she'd taken us seriously. Besides, she was the

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<v Speaker 1>bravest person I had ever known. Now I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>had stayed awake with her or asked her to lie

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<v Speaker 1>down with us, after all, she had driven nearly all day,

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<v Speaker 1>but kids can be pretty self centered. During the night,

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<v Speaker 1>it began to snow, with an average elevation of sixty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred feet. It was the time of year that

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<v Speaker 1>it could snow anytime, so it could have been as

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<v Speaker 1>early as April or spring break, or between June through August.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure when exactly we were there, though I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the gentle snow flurries were beautiful and peaceful until a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>loud wind gust blew the plastic sheeting that hung over

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<v Speaker 1>the door and sent it flapping up into the room.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible that Mom's anxiousness was getting to me, because

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment the wind blasted that plastic sheet, I

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<v Speaker 1>sat uprightfully, expecting to see bigfoot standing in the doorway

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<v Speaker 1>and roaring at us. But there was nothing but blackness

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<v Speaker 1>that stared back at me, and only the wind howled.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a frightening moment. Nonetheless, Mom scrambled to secure

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<v Speaker 1>the plastic around the doorframe the edges, and we settled

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<v Speaker 1>into an uneasy wait for daylight. We left the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>never to return. For the most part, I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was just all a funny scare over nothing. Really. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recall any of us kids ever asking to go

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<v Speaker 1>back in. Our parents never again suggested we go to

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<v Speaker 1>the cabin again for a trip. Sorry, little Badger friend,

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<v Speaker 1>we sure miss you now. In twenty twenty, my mother

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<v Speaker 1>was eighty four and I was sixty one. She was

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<v Speaker 1>bedridden and she had dementia. The television kept her occupied.

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<v Speaker 1>One show she liked was Unsolved Mysteries, which usually covered

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<v Speaker 1>crimes or disappearances. But one time, while I was taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of her, an episode about Bigfoot came on. A

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<v Speaker 1>little ways into it. Mom said, Oh, that's just silly.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think that's real, do you. I told her,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was possible that they were real, that

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of personal accounts, and I found

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<v Speaker 1>many people who reported encounters quite credible. Mom's demeanor changed notably,

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<v Speaker 1>so I paused the program. She told me something that

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<v Speaker 1>had happened to her and dad at the cabin. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the time they'd send us girl to stay at

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<v Speaker 1>Grandma's that took advantage of being temporarily childless and went

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<v Speaker 1>to the cabin. I find it odd neither of them

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<v Speaker 1>until now had ever mentioned that they'd gone there alone,

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<v Speaker 1>not that it would have mattered to us kids, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's odd that they never said anything about it. Mom

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<v Speaker 1>said she woke up in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 1>when something jiggled a doorknob. What or whoever it was

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<v Speaker 1>was very large and heavy, and it went around the cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>trying each door and windows, circling around and around. She

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<v Speaker 1>said that she was afraid to even look at the

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<v Speaker 1>windows for fear of what she might see. And she

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<v Speaker 1>said that she felt kind of a terror that she'd

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<v Speaker 1>never felt before. I could see how it still scared

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<v Speaker 1>her to talk about it well. She woke my dad

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<v Speaker 1>to tell him what was going on. They laid there listening,

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<v Speaker 1>whispering only as necessary. They assumed it was a person,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dad was concerned the person might be armed. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to force a confrontation in the dark with

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<v Speaker 1>some one who obviously had an advantage on them, especially

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<v Speaker 1>since he himself was not armed. They decided to pack

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<v Speaker 1>up quickly at first like and made a mad dash

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<v Speaker 1>to the car to leave. I asked my mom if

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<v Speaker 1>she saw anything of what was outside the cabin that night.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that we really couldn't see anything. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a shadowy outline, but it was very tall. In

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<v Speaker 1>the early morning light, they saw it run off, zigzagging

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<v Speaker 1>through the trees very fast. If it had been a person,

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<v Speaker 1>there would have been no accommodations out there to run to,

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<v Speaker 1>no nearby roads if they had come by a car.

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<v Speaker 1>It was remote and mostly barren wilderness. After Mom and

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's strange night, the next time she saw the cabin

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<v Speaker 1>was alone with her daughters. She found it with the

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<v Speaker 1>Dad many years later, did make one last trip up

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<v Speaker 1>in even worse shape, and not just run down. The

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<v Speaker 1>and that heavy wrought iron stove had been ripped out.

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<v Speaker 1>They found it busting up, lying in a ditch quite

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<v Speaker 1>even if they could have can you. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>along with the crowd. We went into the church and

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<v Speaker 1>been there for years, and then the girls decided to

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<v Speaker 1>not to disturb the dead. After a few hours, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>I kept in my shirt pocket. I turned my light

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<v Speaker 1>on in the darkness of night, feeling a little uneasy

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<v Speaker 1>and nervous. It was at the foot of a drive

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<v Speaker 1>by a cedar tree that was on my left side,

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<v Speaker 1>which is still there today. All of a sudden, a

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<v Speaker 1>the cedar tree branches and it nearly hit me. I

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<v Speaker 1>and turned it on and got out of there. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what threw that rock, but someone once told

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<v Speaker 1>me that bigfoot guard cemeteries at night. Well. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back there twenty years later, but this time I packed

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<v Speaker 1>a pistol, not taking any chances. All those years later,

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<v Speaker 1>I still felt uneasy around the old church. Had we

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<v Speaker 1>disturbed the dead? Or was it a sasquatch. Here's another

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<v Speaker 1>little fact. The whole town of Rocky Springs died from

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<v Speaker 1>a rare disease, so don't drink the water if you

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<v Speaker 1>go there to visit. I moved away from home as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I turned eighteen, and I found a place

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<v Speaker 1>to rent thirty miles from where I worked. It was

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<v Speaker 1>where I didn't have any neighbors to deal with, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could do pretty much anything an eighteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>I started noticing strange stuff, small things. At first, lights

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<v Speaker 1>would be on that I knew were turned off. Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make any sense. Tools would disappear from whatever car

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<v Speaker 1>I happened to be attempting to restore. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd find them scattered around too far out to have

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<v Speaker 1>been thrown even in a fit of rage, as anyone

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with working on a car can relate to. Once,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the middle of replacing a radiator hose

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<v Speaker 1>store for cigarettes. Before I left, I put a wrench

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<v Speaker 1>that I was using on top of my toolbox, figured

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<v Speaker 1>I'd only be gone for an hour at the most.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got back, there was no sign of the wrench.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually I found it in the corner of an old

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<v Speaker 1>lean to that later became my furs shd. After a

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<v Speaker 1>few months, things got more weird. Doors would slam in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night, Dishes would break. Another time,

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<v Speaker 1>I came home and all my silverware had been dumped

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<v Speaker 1>given to me by a coworker exploded in the cupboard.

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<v Speaker 1>And then things got worse, and eventually I started making

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<v Speaker 1>plans to get out of there. But about that time

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<v Speaker 1>I started hearing something walking around the house and yelling

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<v Speaker 1>my name and telling me to come outside. Two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of that, I finally left and moved to Lebanon, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot way back to that house a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sat empty since I left. No one wants

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<v Speaker 1>to live out there. It's too far from everything and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no jobs close by. Now, let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a story about my girlfriend at the time. The house

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<v Speaker 1>she lived in was close to the site of a

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<v Speaker 1>Union camp that was attacked by Confederate soldiers during the

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<v Speaker 1>Civil War. Or one night she was out closing the

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<v Speaker 1>chicken coop. While she was inside, she heard two men

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<v Speaker 1>whispering what sounded like battle plans, something to the effect of,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bring the cavalry in from the west. They won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to head south because of the river. The

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<v Speaker 1>artillery will hit them from the north, and they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>dead before sunrise. And then I have one more story

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<v Speaker 1>that took place two miles from my girlfriend's house. We

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<v Speaker 1>were walking around in abandoned property, and by the look

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<v Speaker 1>of things, the owner had gotten up in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of dinner, loaded everything into their sixties rambler and crashed

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<v Speaker 1>it into a tree. There were still boxes and trunks

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<v Speaker 1>containing clothes and other belongings on the way out, we

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<v Speaker 1>started to feel like we were being followed. We noticed

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<v Speaker 1>a strong odor, like rotting fish in a full outhouse

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<v Speaker 1>in the heat of July. Close to the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the driveway, I saw a pile of small animal bones,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a cat a raccoon from the size. When we

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<v Speaker 1>decided to go back and check it out some more.

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<v Speaker 1>This time I had the sense to go more prepared,

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<v Speaker 1>so I grabbed a handgun and an extra mag and

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed a machette and a headlamp and a shovel

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<v Speaker 1>and a hatchet. When we returned, the smell was even stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>We searched the old shop and the storm shelter, and

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<v Speaker 1>after a while we decided to take a closer look

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<v Speaker 1>at those bones. I noticed a cut on the inside

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<v Speaker 1>of the animal spine. It looked like the throat had

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<v Speaker 1>been cut. A little further away, my girlfriend found another

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<v Speaker 1>pile and another one further along. Over the next few

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<v Speaker 1>days we found three hundred and sixty five complete skeletons

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<v Speaker 1>belonging to cats and small dogs, and they were placed

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<v Speaker 1>in a circle around the house and the surrounding buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole time we were there, it felt like something

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<v Speaker 1>was standing right behind us. I don't know what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on or what was there with us, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'll never visit that house again. For the greater

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<v Speaker 1>part of my life, I never believed in things like sisquatch,

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<v Speaker 1>But when I overheard my dad listening to your channel,

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<v Speaker 1>I was converted. I live in western Washington State, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have for most of my life. My parents have

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<v Speaker 1>taken us fishing and hiking for years, and we're used

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<v Speaker 1>to the forests of the Pacific Northwest. We live way

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<v Speaker 1>down a dirt road that borders some old logging land,

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<v Speaker 1>where my family and I often walk back there. We

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<v Speaker 1>could hike out to the lakes and sometimes for a

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<v Speaker 1>birthday get to go shooting at the old quarry well.

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<v Speaker 1>One night a couple of years ago, a huge thunderstorm

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<v Speaker 1>the sky had become a black abyss. There was thunder

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<v Speaker 1>and lightning and rain in hell, and it was one

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a tempest. That night, my family and I

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<v Speaker 1>were watching a movie when my sister exclaimed that she

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<v Speaker 1>had just seen lightning at once. My mom and dad

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<v Speaker 1>and three youngest siblings and our dog Boaz, jumped up

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<v Speaker 1>and went to the back door to watch the storm.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother and I stayed behind to finish what we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing, but within a few minutes, urged by the

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<v Speaker 1>many oohs and ahs of the rest of our family,

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<v Speaker 1>we ran to the back door to see what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Well. The storm was spectacular. Lightning streaked across

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<v Speaker 1>the dark backdrop of the clouds in a brilliant flash

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<v Speaker 1>of white and purple, and thunder boomed the seconds after,

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<v Speaker 1>as if celebrating the joys of lightning's intricate dance. Droplets

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<v Speaker 1>of rain as large as marbles plummeted down to the

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<v Speaker 1>they hit the ground. It was a joyous and standing

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<v Speaker 1>there watching the power and strength of nature as it

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<v Speaker 1>displayed its awesome might to us. But we stood there

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<v Speaker 1>watching the storm for a while until the lightning started

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<v Speaker 1>to die down. Everyone went back inside to enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of their evening except my brother and our dog

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<v Speaker 1>and me. We were hoping to catch a few more

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<v Speaker 1>glimpses of plasma in the sky from outside the back door.

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<v Speaker 1>We waited outside for the next bolt of lightning, when

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<v Speaker 1>bos started acting funny. It was walking around us and

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<v Speaker 1>acting skittish. My brother let him back inside in exchange

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<v Speaker 1>to confused. Look with me, that was weird, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>A boez is a big dog, about thirty inches wide

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<v Speaker 1>at the shoulder, and he's protective and he would usually

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<v Speaker 1>throw himself at anything he deemed as dangerous before he

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<v Speaker 1>very unusual. A few minutes later, a scream came roaring

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<v Speaker 1>out of the edge of the woods. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most terrifying things I have ever experienced. To

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<v Speaker 1>describe it, it would not be true to its nature.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like an owl screech, but louder, fiercer, and

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<v Speaker 1>fused with a wild man's howl, and it was coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the edge of our woods, only one hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>from our back door. My brother and I locked eyes

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<v Speaker 1>wide with fear, knowing it was no ordinary creature. It

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<v Speaker 1>was something unknown and alien. We didn't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>if it would make its horrible call again. We bolted inside,

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<v Speaker 1>scared to death of the unknown menace lurking in the

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<v Speaker 1>walls of our forest. Our family oblivious to the sheer

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<v Speaker 1>terror that we had just experienced was sitting down relaxing,

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<v Speaker 1>having a grand old time watching their movie, and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad asked us if we had seen any more lightning,

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<v Speaker 1>and we told him that a creature was screaming from

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<v Speaker 1>the woods. When we were done with our story. Our

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<v Speaker 1>probably just a cougar and that we had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about. I argued back with him, it wasn't a cougar.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'd heard what cougar screams sound like, and

417
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<v Speaker 1>it was completely different. My dad still blew it off

418
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<v Speaker 1>his children's over excited imaginations and he left it at that.

419
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<v Speaker 1>We never talked about it since, but my brother and

420
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<v Speaker 1>I will never forget that night. I had a good

421
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<v Speaker 1>friend who drove a log truck until he passed away

422
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:49.279
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and seven. Like a lot of old

423
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<v Speaker 1>truck drivers, Jeffrey had his share of tall tales. There

424
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<v Speaker 1>is a place about thirty miles from where I live

425
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<v Speaker 1>in Georgia called Raytown. Jeffrey was born in there. Raytown

426
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<v Speaker 1>is a very remote place. It's a hunter's paradise and

427
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<v Speaker 1>also an area full of big timber. Over the years,

428
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:13.839
<v Speaker 1>we have done some logging in that area quite a bit.

429
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey always claimed that Bigfoot roam the woods there, but

430
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<v Speaker 1>I never really believed him until late one night in

431
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 1>January of twenty and ten. My crew and I were

432
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>working far back down along dirt road. At the time.

433
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I was driving the truck, but on this particular track

434
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>we were hauling pulp wood, but we also had chippers

435
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>set up to grind the smaller debris and hauled chips

436
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to bio mass plants about one hundred miles away. My

437
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>sister had called me earlier in the day and asked

438
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>if we could meet up and let my young nephew

439
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 1>ride with me in the big truck. We met at

440
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 1>a local restaurant around six pm, and my little buddy

441
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Cody hopped in with me, and we took off and

442
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<v Speaker 1>headed for Raytown time a year. It was already dark

443
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>when I picked up my nephew, and as we drove along,

444
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I told him that we were headed to a dark,

445
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 1>spooky place. Well, Cody didn't mind. He was just happy

446
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 1>to be in the truck with me. I even had

447
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to hit the jake brakes for him every few miles

448
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 1>because he loved the sound of it. As we neared

449
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the dirt road. I told him not to worry, always

450
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 1>have a ruger with me. We were five miles in

451
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>on a dirt road when all of a sudden, something

452
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>hit the hood of the truck. It sounded like a baseball.

453
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<v Speaker 1>What the hell was that, I mumble to myself. On

454
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<v Speaker 1>a dirt road, gravel wool, ping the fuel tanks and

455
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>quarter fenders, and even ping against the headache rack. Those

456
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>are familiar sounds, but this was different. It was intentional.

457
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Someone threw a big rock at the hood of my

458
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Peter Bilt. I knew no person would be out in

459
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>those woods, fourteen miles from the nearest town on a

460
00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty five degree night throwing rocks. Cody was pondering what

461
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 1>could have thrown something at the truck, and I immediately

462
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>thought about Jeffrey's bigfoot tales. I've always heard they throw

463
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>rocks anyway. I couldn't speak for a few minutes, but

464
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't scared one bit. I finally believed Jeffrey, and

465
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:18.319
<v Speaker 1>it's a pity that he wasn't around for me to

466
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:25.039
<v Speaker 1>tell him my story. Twelve years ago, I was having

467
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 1>a campfire at my house with my brother in law.

468
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 1>We had a couple of beers so that we could

469
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>unwind after a long day of coaching our travel soccer

470
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>team in a tournament. It was a nice, clear summer

471
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>night and I was looking up into the sky, watching

472
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 1>the smoke from our campfire drift into the atmosphere. You

473
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>can see the lights from some planes, and we were

474
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>enjoying the evening. I glanced over at my brother in law.

475
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 1>He was staring at the sky too, and he had

476
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a puzzled look on his face. What are you looking at,

477
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked him. I don't know what it is, he said.

478
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I looked up and saw six or so different colored

479
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>flashing lights in a circular pattern. They didn't look like

480
00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 1>any plane or anything else that I had ever seen

481
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:16.599
<v Speaker 1>in the night sky before. It was motionless, high up

482
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>in the sky, with no discernible sound coming from it

483
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that we could hear. We watched the lights for several minutes,

484
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, they shot across the

485
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 1>sky and they disappeared at a speed that was way

486
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>too fast for any aircraft. I checked the news the

487
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>next day and even reached out to a local UFO

488
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 1>website to see if anyone had reported seeing it, but

489
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing. Now I'd like to tell you a

490
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 1>story about once I went squatching. My extended family owns

491
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.599
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty acres of farmland in woods in

492
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>rural western Pennsylvania. My cousin owns a huge A frame

493
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>house on the property. Going away with this family and

494
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 1>had just gotten a new puppy. He asked if I

495
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to dog sit for the weekend and he would

496
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:10.359
<v Speaker 1>pay me for my time. Well, I jumped at the

497
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to hang out in this huge house all weekend

498
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and not be cramped at my parents' house. I've been

499
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>interested in cryptozoology and aliens since I was a kid. Now.

500
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching In Search of with Leonard Nimoy and

501
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>being interested in the mystery of it all at an

502
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>early age. One night at the A frame I decided

503
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to go out with my flashlight and try to do

504
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 1>some whoops and howls and tree knocking and listen for

505
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.079
<v Speaker 1>some kind of a response. The next thing I knew,

506
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>fear swept over me like a light switch, and my

507
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 1>thoughts turned panicked. What if I got a response, would

508
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 1>that be a good thing, I thought to myself. And

509
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>what if the creature was aggressive? I thought? Even Further,

510
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I grew up camping, boating, hunting, fishing, and I'm no

511
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>stranger to the outdoors. I even wrote for a Pennsylvania

512
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 1>outdoor magazine for several years as a fishing columnist. I

513
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>don't scare easily in the woods, but that night was different.

514
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Headed back to the house as quickly as I could,

515
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and I locked the door behind me, and I grabbed

516
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 1>a handgun and I sat on the couch. If I

517
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:24.319
<v Speaker 1>decided to go back out, I think I will find

518
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a partner to go with me for my own peace

519
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>of mind. Okay, I hope you guys enjoyed those new stories.

520
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that was five or six new stories. Now

521
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to drop an archive story behind this, so

522
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 1>if you begin to listen, you've already heard it. Just

523
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>click away. But some people haven't heard all these, and

524
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought I would include some in videos going forward,

525
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 1>but I'll always warn you. Thanks for joining me on

526
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, and we'll see you guys on the next one.

527
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Here comes an archive to podcast. Thanks. I can't remember

528
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 1>when I got this story. It's been not too terribly long,

529
00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's one of the craziest stories I've ever read,

530
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.799
<v Speaker 1>and I've never I've never thought about this theory. What

531
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you're going to learn about now. For the first five

532
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 1>minutes or so, she's going to give some background on

533
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>where she's from, what she does. Hang on because this

534
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 1>is a long story and it really gets good. I

535
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:24.279
<v Speaker 1>mean it gets really creepy. Here's what Jenna writes. How

536
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the past year has changed my life. I cannot begin

537
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to express, but I will give it my best shot.

538
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>My name is Jenna and I'm a twenty nine year

539
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>old female geologist spieleeologist, and I was working for the

540
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>government within the Department of Geological Survey up until recently.

541
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.319
<v Speaker 1>We were responsible to explore and map out old mind

542
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 1>chefs and cave systems in the Eastern United States. There

543
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>are several of these teams working throughout the country in

544
00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>places like the Rockies, Texas, the Midwest, and in Washington State.

545
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that there are also teams in Canada and

546
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Mexico as well. I have been spilunking since I was

547
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>five years old with my father and older brothers, so

548
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 1>it became who I was and not just what I did.

549
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 1>My experience through the years made me useful to this project.

550
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I was recruited in my last year of graduate school

551
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire by Joseph who had

552
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>become my supervisor and mentor. My eight teammates were all

553
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 1>roughly the same age, and we had various degrees of

554
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 1>interest of study, including engineering, archaeology, biology, herpetology and volcanology,

555
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 1>as well as other fields. We were a mixture of

556
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 1>seven men and two women, and all have a love

557
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.119
<v Speaker 1>for the world below the surface, resulting in our pale

558
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>skin in very thin frames. Because we spent most of

559
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the days in the dark out of the sunlight, it

560
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't all that bad for me being a pale skinned

561
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 1>ginger and ten minutes in the sun I would turn

562
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 1>into a lobster. The meals that we take are mostly

563
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:15.639
<v Speaker 1>small protein bars and water. It's easier to carry with us,

564
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 1>especially when we stayed in the cave system overnight. During

565
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the expeditions there were sometimes ten miles deeper more. We

566
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>have done many of these over the past four years.

567
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.199
<v Speaker 1>We have made some remarkable discoveries and we've mapped out

568
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>miles of cave systems in West Virginia and Kentucky using

569
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>a combination of GPR or ground penetration radar and light

570
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>ar from the surface, as well as some new technology

571
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>that will make for some amazing new discoveries in the future.

572
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Our average expedition would start when we entered a cave

573
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>or a small hole in a mountainside and started to

574
00:34:55.960 --> 00:35:00.280
<v Speaker 1>evaluate if it was safe. Understand that we we have

575
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>left more caves than we explored due to what appeared

576
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>to be unsafe, or when our equipment detected gas. Once

577
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.519
<v Speaker 1>we determine that it is safe, we begin to move

578
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>deeper into the cave and into the twilight zone. There

579
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>is no presence of light in the dark zone, and

580
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>we see nothing if we turn out the lights. Often

581
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>we find chambers and passages off to the sides, or

582
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 1>even drop offs in sinkholes. We can use special drones

583
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>with lights and cameras to fly over the drop offs

584
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>or down the sinkholes, or on top of shelves or

585
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 1>ledges above our reach to see if there are any

586
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 1>points of interest below or above us that we need

587
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to explore. Using those drones have given us access to

588
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:52.559
<v Speaker 1>new passages and chambers that no human has ever seen,

589
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>some of which have led to miles of passages and

590
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>enormous chambers, one of which was over one hundred feet

591
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>tall and three football feels long fifty yards wide, and

592
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>we nicknamed that one the ballroom. We have discovered entrances

593
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 1>to cave systems that were not noticeable from the top

594
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 1>side or outside the cave. Some of the entrances have

595
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>been behind waterfalls, crevices, and cliffs, and under roots of

596
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>large trees, and even behind some dead falls that appear

597
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 1>to have been pushed up against it to conceal the entrance.

598
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 1>We have mapped some systems that will travel miles into

599
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 1>another exit or entrance, with the longest one being twenty

600
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>seven miles in southeast Kentucky and it goes into Tennessee,

601
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and that required us to stay in the cave for

602
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>over two weeks. We have scanner units mounted onto our

603
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:51.280
<v Speaker 1>helmets that capture three D imagery of the cave as

604
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 1>we travel, and we also use GPS signals that rarely

605
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.679
<v Speaker 1>are detected above the surface, but we still have them

606
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and occasionally get closer enough to the surface to get

607
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>our data to the base camp to be collected. We

608
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>have other tools that we have used in the past.

609
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>One includes a buoy with a GPS unit. We dropped

610
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 1>one in a fast moving underground River near the West

611
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Kentucky state line to see where or if it

612
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>would ever surface. To our amazement, it reappeared five weeks later,

613
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>almost three hundred miles away in the Clinch River near Kingston, Tennessee.

614
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>We were astonished it must have traveled under another river

615
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 1>system to arrive to the Clinch River. We are now

616
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 1>developing equipment that we can capture imagery of the underground

617
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 1>river system without our team having to dive into those

618
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>underground rivers, with the hopes of capturing the constant location

619
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>of the device and the depth under the sea level

620
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>as well that will be able to explain how these

621
00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>rivers are crossing. Other findings are also worth mentioning. We've

622
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>found several species of animals or insects that were unknown

623
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 1>or thought to not inhabit this region, as well as

624
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 1>numerous cave drawings that date back over ten thousand years,

625
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<v Speaker 1>along with artifacts such as pottery from the early fourteen hundreds,

626
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.960
<v Speaker 1>spears and arrowheads, muskets or black powder rifles, a couple

627
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>of swords. We found knives, shells, some gold and silver

628
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 1>coins from seventeen hundred Europe, along with bones and I

629
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 1>mean a lot of bones. These discoveries found miles underground,

630
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 1>far from known entry points. We report our findings before

631
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 1>moving further, and it slows down the exploration process because

632
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>we have to wait for another team to go in

633
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and gather the artifacts. Without us, we would contaminate the scene.

634
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 1>The real question was how did someone get this far

635
00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>into the cave system with torches, as they would have

636
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.679
<v Speaker 1>to have burnt out well before they got that deep.

637
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 1>They would have had to carry extra torches with them,

638
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and why would they have traveled this deep while the

639
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>other team was in our cave. We would go to

640
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 1>another cave for several weeks until we were given the

641
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>go ahead to continue our explanation of the original cave.

642
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Rarely were we given any information on what the other

643
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>team's findings revealed, especially when it was about bones or

644
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 1>modern day items like a shiny new shotgun we had found,

645
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>or the backpack with a West Virginia Park map that

646
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 1>was printed in twenty eighteen and it was over seven

647
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand feet into the cave system. We would write it

648
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>off to people going beyond their limits and getting lost

649
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.679
<v Speaker 1>in the cave and losing their belongings as they roamed

650
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>about in the darkness. And as for the other team,

651
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they were a dull bunch of people with no personality

652
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>yet trying to talk to them, they were tight, left

653
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>about their business. They were almost what we would think

654
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of as a stiff government or maybe a CIA personality type.

655
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>There were occasions where we would pass them coming or

656
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>going and they wouldn't take the time to speak to anyone.

657
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't drop any clues or share any findings, absolutely nothing.

658
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Using our newest technology that we had developed was the sphere,

659
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>which was a mobile GPR light hoar sphere that set

660
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.599
<v Speaker 1>up on a tripod in the middle of chambers, which

661
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 1>we would leave overnight to scan. The results were beyond belief.

662
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>We have found new tunnels that are blocked by large

663
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>rocks or boulders. The stones are so heavy that several

664
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>men working together could not move them for us to

665
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>explore further. But we knew the boulders had been placed

666
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 1>there because the scars remained on the floors and walls

667
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 1>they had been rolled into position. We had a heavy

668
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>hydraulic jack design to lift rocks off of us should

669
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>we become trapped, and we found that this jack could

670
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>move the boulders enough to gain entrance into hidden chambers

671
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>or caverns. And now that I've given you a brief

672
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>description of what we do and how we do it,

673
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you of my account that began

674
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>on Friday, August the thirteenth of all days in twenty

675
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty one. We had been mapping out a cave system

676
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 1>south of Grayson, Kentucky, and we were five miles deep

677
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>into the system when we dropped off of a shelf

678
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.840
<v Speaker 1>about twenty feet using our climbing gear to discover a

679
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:46.039
<v Speaker 1>new passage. It led back east to half a mile

680
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>to an oval shaped chamber, and at the far end

681
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:53.039
<v Speaker 1>of the chamber was a large boulder blocking another passage

682
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that we found by setting up our sphere overnight. The

683
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.360
<v Speaker 1>following Monday was August the sixteenth, and we analyzed the

684
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>data and we determined it was worth exploring. After moving

685
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 1>the rock, we followed the passage for another half mile

686
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 1>and then we decided to back out and call it

687
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:17.639
<v Speaker 1>a day. We returned on the seventeenth to the oval

688
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>chamber and we found the rock had rolled back to

689
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>block the entrance. We jacked it back open again and

690
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 1>placed smaller rocks under it to keep it from rolling

691
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>back while we were in there exploring. We then entered

692
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>the passage and began to map out the system where

693
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:38.800
<v Speaker 1>we left off. Through the day, we discovered a labyrinth

694
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 1>of passages going in all directions. Some were dead ends,

695
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.079
<v Speaker 1>and some were working their way back to the main cavern.

696
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 1>The areas that didn't reconnect, we would follow those for

697
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.679
<v Speaker 1>five hundred feet and then turned back. There were so

698
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 1>many that we wanted to see, but this system could

699
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 1>be thoroughly explored. Later. We were getting our bearings and

700
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>taking notes, and we were excited about this discovery. We

701
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 1>started noticing different items, such as fresh leaves and small

702
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 1>twigs on the cave floor. They were green, they weren't dead,

703
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

704
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>In the largest passage, we found a shallow stream with

705
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.559
<v Speaker 1>a mud and a swet bottom and bank, and in

706
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that mud we found tracks of all sizes. They were

707
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 1>human looking tracks. Some were smaller than my feet and

708
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 1>others were twenty four inches long and ten inches wide. Laurie,

709
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>my female teammate, carefully examined the toes to see if

710
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>there were claw marks, because that would lead us to

711
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 1>believe that it was a bear. But she found none. Well.

712
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 1>The day was late and we pulled out again, marking

713
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>our route with illuminated paint of different colors, as we

714
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>always did when exploring new systems. The footprints gave us

715
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>all concern, but it also was exciting. The passage was

716
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>nine feet high and we could not imagine a giant

717
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>of a man walking around in there. But this raised

718
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 1>questions beyond belief, so we all decided to keep this

719
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:23.199
<v Speaker 1>finding to ourselves for the time being. On Wednesday, the eighteenth,

720
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>we found that the rock had again been rolled back

721
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.320
<v Speaker 1>over the entrance and we had to move it with Jacks. Rodney,

722
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>the archaeologist, said that he was going to bust it

723
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>into pieces if it happened again, and we proceeded to

724
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the stream where we had left off the previous day

725
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:44.519
<v Speaker 1>to find more tracks. We slowly moved along the stream,

726
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 1>following the direction of the footprints as it flowed down

727
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the center of the cavern. A quarter of a mile

728
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>through the passage and into the chamber, we discovered some

729
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of the most disturbing items we had ever found. There

730
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 1>were numerous shoes of different sizes, including boots and children's sneakers,

731
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.559
<v Speaker 1>some clothing that appeared to be torn, and some looked

732
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like it had dried blood on it, and they were

733
00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 1>all in piles like someone had been sleeping on them.

734
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 1>There were backpacks and coats. There was a hatchet and

735
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.519
<v Speaker 1>some knives, a couple of firearms, and children's toys such

736
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 1>as dolls and barbies and action figures. There were balls

737
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 1>and toy cars lying all about the chamber, and then

738
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 1>we found a pile of human bones of all sizes,

739
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 1>including children's, all piled up against the wall at the

740
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>far end of the chamber. Laurie screamed at the top

741
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of her lungs and began crying uncontrollably, and as the

742
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 1>others tried to comfort her, out of the darkness of

743
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 1>a passage at the far end of the chamber near

744
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the pile of bones, came a scream or a roar

745
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>of a monstrous volume that shook my insides. It lasted

746
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>long time and was immediately answered by another roar from

747
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 1>a different cavern, and then several more. The team instantly

748
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>began to run toward the exit, with me bringing up

749
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the rear. I had a feeling that something was behind me,

750
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.599
<v Speaker 1>and I quickly looked back over my shoulder with my

751
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:23.039
<v Speaker 1>high intensity led light, and I illuminated the face of

752
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.239
<v Speaker 1>a beast that was the size of a refrigerator, only

753
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>ten feet behind me. In that brief instant, I could

754
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>see the beast's lips were curled back, bearing large teeth

755
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>which were like ours except for the canines, which were

756
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>larger in proportion than a human. It had large, round,

757
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>black evil eyes and a flat nose, and everything around

758
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the face was covered with hair. The animal covered its

759
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 1>eyes from the light with its hands and screamed in

760
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>pain as if the light heard it, and it shrank

761
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>away from me and my light. It curled up into

762
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a ball onto the floor of the cave, wailing in pain.

763
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I was now backing out of the chamber, trying to

764
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 1>keep the light on the beast, when I must have

765
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>passed the exit and tumbled into a sinkhole. I got

766
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.559
<v Speaker 1>lucky it was only five feet below the chamber floor.

767
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It could have been deeper and I would have never

768
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 1>gotten out of there. I am only five foot four

769
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to start with, and I weigh less than one hundred

770
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.599
<v Speaker 1>and ten pounds fully clothed, and I knew if I

771
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do something quick, I would end up in that

772
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.119
<v Speaker 1>bone pile. In front of me, I saw a small

773
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>crevice that looked to me about my size, so I

774
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>dove into it headfirst, and I began to crawl on

775
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>my belly back into the darkness. I was ten feet

776
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 1>into the crevice when I heard the monster scream into

777
00:47:48.039 --> 00:47:50.559
<v Speaker 1>the mouth of the crevice behind me, and I could

778
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.280
<v Speaker 1>feel it reaching into the hole as it started to

779
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 1>claw at the walls. The creature was so cloth I

780
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>could smell its foul breath, and this gave me a

781
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>surge of strength to move ahead faster. I crawled ahead

782
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.119
<v Speaker 1>without thinking. I was in survival mode and I wanted

783
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>to get as far from this thing as possible. The

784
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 1>roars began to fade the further into the passage I went,

785
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and after an hour, I dropped into a room. Stalactites

786
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hung from the low ceiling and I had to walk

787
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 1>hunched over, but at least I could stand. I tried

788
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to reach my team on the radio, but I got

789
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:33.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing in response. If I was going to get out

790
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>of there, I had to move upward while avoiding these creatures.

791
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:38.679
<v Speaker 1>I had to get to the surface. That's all I

792
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 1>could think of. I turned down the intensity of my

793
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>light to get more life from my batteries, and I

794
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>continued walking and crawling. I wandered the uncharted passages and

795
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 1>caverns alone for hours, not knowing where I was or

796
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.559
<v Speaker 1>if I was moving to freedom. I lost all sense

797
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.760
<v Speaker 1>of time, and I didn't know if it was day

798
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>or night. And to make matters worse, not long after that,

799
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I was down to my last spare battery pack. The

800
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.760
<v Speaker 1>only light I would have after those batteries died was

801
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>my cell phone. I had turned it off long ago

802
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 1>to save it as a last resort for light. And

803
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the exhaustion set in, and I clicked off my light

804
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and I sat in the blackness, and I fell asleep.

805
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I woke to the distant sounds of clicking and some

806
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:37.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of gibberish that I didn't understand. The sounds weren't close,

807
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, but they were looking for me. Once. It

808
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.639
<v Speaker 1>sounded so human that I thought it might be in

809
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>my team members calling for me, and I almost shouted

810
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to them, but I waited to make sure, and I'm

811
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:53.639
<v Speaker 1>glad I did, because minutes later another roar came from

812
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the same direction. I drank the last of my water

813
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and I ate the final protein bar. I then turned

814
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 1>my light off and I curled into a fetal position,

815
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>hoping the sounds would stop so I could move again. Strangely,

816
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.679
<v Speaker 1>I felt an evil presence near me, and I knew

817
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:18.519
<v Speaker 1>the creatures were near, but still I waited. Hours later,

818
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the noises stopped, and I assumed they had given up

819
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 1>their search for me. So I got moving, always trying

820
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 1>to move upward. Freedom was above me, and I had

821
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:33.760
<v Speaker 1>to get there. Two maybe three days later, I felt

822
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 1>hope slipping away. I had lost all sense of time,

823
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was weakened now from hydration, and I was

824
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>starving to death. I only used my headlamp briefly. I

825
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 1>would click it on, look ahead as far as I

826
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.280
<v Speaker 1>could see, and then turn it off, and then I

827
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>would feel my way to something until I needed light again.

828
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 1>While alone in a place this silent, your sense of

829
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 1>hearing heightens. There or no other noises to interfere with

830
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 1>what you were hearing. While taking a break, and without

831
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the noise of my movements, I heard the hum of traffic.

832
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I moved toward the sound until I saw a faint

833
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>rays of light penetrating the passage wall. I was overjoyed,

834
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and I was filled with a surge of energy. There

835
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 1>was a small crevice that would be tight even for

836
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 1>my small body to escape through, but I pushed through

837
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it anyway into the sunlight. I was standing at the

838
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.280
<v Speaker 1>base of a cliff that I would later find out

839
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 1>was next to Kentucky State Route seven. Cars were speeding

840
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>pass below me. I had made it out alive. My

841
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.360
<v Speaker 1>phone still had a charge, and I called my supervisor. Well.

842
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>She was ecstatic to hear from me. She said, they

843
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.559
<v Speaker 1>picked up my GPS tracker twenty minutes ago. My tracker

844
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.559
<v Speaker 1>must have started broadcasting when I got near the crevice,

845
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and state troopers were on their way, she said. The

846
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 1>police took me back to my hotel room, and I

847
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>felt like I drank a gallon of water while we drove. Now,

848
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get a shower in something to eat,

849
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.800
<v Speaker 1>but as I got out of the car, four men

850
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 1>approached and ushered me into a small hotel conference room.

851
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I assumed they knew I was exhausted in Hungary and

852
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that this meeting would not take long, But I was wrong.

853
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Two of the men were from the Department of the Interior,

854
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>one was a federal Game and Fish official, and the

855
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>last was with the US Geological Survey. The date was

856
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.119
<v Speaker 1>August twenty second, and they wanted me to recount the

857
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>last ninety six hours my scanner was still operating. From

858
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that data, we found that I had traveled eleven miles

859
00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>underground from the point at which I fell into the sinkhole.

860
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 1>They began asking me about the bear we had encountered. Well,

861
00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I was a biology major, but I knew damn well

862
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 1>that the creature was not a bear, and I said so.

863
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I described the creature in great detail, but still they

864
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:19.440
<v Speaker 1>continued calling it a bear. They questioned me for three hours.

865
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>At some point I told them I had answered every

866
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:27.360
<v Speaker 1>question and that I was done, and after walking out,

867
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I headed to my room and I took a long shower.

868
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Some food was brought to me, so I ate like

869
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I had never tasted food, and then I went to sleep.

870
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I was still a bit confused when I woke, but

871
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:44.679
<v Speaker 1>I felt rested and ready to find my teammates. I

872
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:46.800
<v Speaker 1>went to all their rooms, and the only one who

873
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>remained there was Tony. He told me that Laurie was

874
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>so upset after the event that she had to be

875
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>sedated and was taken to a local hospital. She had

876
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>been released and sent home. The other members of the

877
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>team had been put on leaving sent home. They had

878
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 1>all been notified that I made it out, and Tony

879
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.320
<v Speaker 1>said they allowed him to stay because he was the

880
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 1>only one who wasn't freaking out. I think that came

881
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:18.519
<v Speaker 1>from his military training. I later learned that a task

882
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>force had come in and Tony guided them back into

883
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 1>the cave. There were way too many people there to

884
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 1>be looking for a bear, though their main mission, Tony

885
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.119
<v Speaker 1>later decided, was to gather the human remains in clothing.

886
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Tony searched the area with those men, and he found

887
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>no sign of a bear, and then they made castings

888
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of several tracks in the mud before they destroyed all

889
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the evidence they could find. They spent days in that

890
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>cave system searching for that bear, they said, but they

891
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:54.320
<v Speaker 1>never found an animal. And then it occurred to me

892
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that I may have been the only one who had

893
00:54:56.880 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 1>seen this creature, because Tony never mentioned it. He kept

894
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.079
<v Speaker 1>saying they searched for a bear, and I think that

895
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.199
<v Speaker 1>is what he thought we were dealing with, and I

896
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 1>had never told him about the creature. I had seen

897
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>only the men in the conference room. I was going

898
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to leave the next day, but that evening we went

899
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to the bar, and there we found two members of

900
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:24.159
<v Speaker 1>the task force drinking. After several drinks, one of them

901
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>began to talk. This fellow told us that this team

902
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 1>was a unit of special forces that were used to

903
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:35.880
<v Speaker 1>hunt down Bigfoot. I had yet to think of a bigfoot,

904
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:39.079
<v Speaker 1>and I was stuck on an unknown monster until then,

905
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:44.159
<v Speaker 1>and bigfoot was a myth, wasn't it. He continued to

906
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.559
<v Speaker 1>tell us that this was only the second underground assignment

907
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.440
<v Speaker 1>they had been on, and that his unit hated the

908
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 1>darkness of the cave systems, even though they were equipped

909
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.800
<v Speaker 1>with special equipment that allowed them to see in the

910
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>dark zone, or the part of the cave where there

911
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 1>was a complete absence of light. He said, we were

912
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 1>some of the luckiest people he had ever met, and

913
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:10.079
<v Speaker 1>my falling into that sinkhole gave all my friends an

914
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to escape because it had captured the interest of

915
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the bigfoot trying to catch me. He admitted that the

916
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>government has proof that these animals are traveling underground as

917
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:25.239
<v Speaker 1>much as they are in the moonlight, and there is

918
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>also evidence of them kidnapping people and eating them. That

919
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.039
<v Speaker 1>was obvious to me I had seen the chamber with

920
00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 1>a pile of bones. He was about to continue with

921
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:41.480
<v Speaker 1>more information. I mean, this guy was a real bliber mouth.

922
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:44.440
<v Speaker 1>But one of the men who questioned me grabbed a

923
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.519
<v Speaker 1>hold of him by the shoulder and said that that

924
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:51.119
<v Speaker 1>was enough, soldier, and you should turn in. This fellow

925
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>then sat down and he asked us what we were told. Well,

926
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:57.599
<v Speaker 1>at first we were hesitant to tell him, but we

927
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>did so anyway, to which he told us us that

928
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:03.559
<v Speaker 1>the soldier was drunk and he was telling tall tales

929
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to scare us, and we shouldn't put much faith in

930
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:11.239
<v Speaker 1>what he was saying. The next day, we were informed

931
00:57:11.239 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 1>that our project had lost its funding and we were

932
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:19.000
<v Speaker 1>all terminated and were given a year's wages a severance pay.

933
00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.639
<v Speaker 1>I've kept in touch with the others, and it seems

934
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 1>that I'm the only one who has been able to

935
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 1>find work in this field. Currently, I do geological and

936
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:35.719
<v Speaker 1>soul analysis for a general contractor for building foundations. None

937
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 1>of our group have returned to the darkness of the

938
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:41.679
<v Speaker 1>underworld and its secrets that we loved and cherished up

939
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.719
<v Speaker 1>until that August week. I have been left with more

940
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.039
<v Speaker 1>questions than I care to imagine, was that a Bigfoot

941
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:54.239
<v Speaker 1>we encountered in that cave? Are they using the cave

942
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:59.719
<v Speaker 1>systems to travel undetected? Do they really kidnap people in

943
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:04.760
<v Speaker 1>eats them? What does the government know? What was the

944
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:07.920
<v Speaker 1>real purpose of the government funding of our expeditions and

945
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>mapping out the cave systems in the first place. Why

946
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:16.760
<v Speaker 1>won't the government inform people of these animals and the dangers?

947
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's the end of her story. Have y'all ever

948
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>heard a story like that. I've never heard anything like that.

949
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Now again, like I said in my last video, I

950
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of these stories that I read

951
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>are true, but this was a sure enough story email

952
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to me. She has enough information on the job and

953
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the spielunking equipment and all that stuff

954
00:58:43.559 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that adds a little bit of credibility to the story.

955
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>But you know, who knows either way, It was a

956
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 1>real good story. And I tell you what, you couldn't

957
00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 1>pay me to go into one of those caves. And

958
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not because I think Bigfoot is in there. I

959
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:02.039
<v Speaker 1>am not terribly clost her, but I've read articles and

960
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I've seen videos where people get stuck in these caves.

961
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>They can send in twenty or thirty men and they

962
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.559
<v Speaker 1>cannot get them unstuck, and the people just have to

963
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:16.079
<v Speaker 1>lay there and die. What a horrible, horrible way to die.

964
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>And I just I can't. And I've seen other videos

965
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:24.440
<v Speaker 1>with these guys. They squeak through these real tight rock formations,

966
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 1>or they'll be flat on their stomach and the rock

967
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is just right down on them. I always think, man,

968
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 1>if that rock formation shifted just a fraction of an inch,

969
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it would just squash you right there. I know everything

970
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. I know that's probably not the way it works,

971
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.360
<v Speaker 1>but it could anyway. I don't want to get stuck

972
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.519
<v Speaker 1>in a dark cave somewhere and die in the dark.

973
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>That's just me. But anyway, Jenna, thank you for sending

974
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.559
<v Speaker 1>this story. I really admire your profession. You're a pretty

975
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 1>brave girl. All Right, that's gonna wind this podcast up.

976
00:59:58.000 --> 00:59:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys enjoyed it. We'll see you on

977
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the next Thank you really
