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Speaker 1: In the mid nineteen sixties, friends offered our family use

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of their cabin in the Great Basin near Baca, Nevada,

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only a few hours drive from our home in Eli.

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That part of the country is mostly barren, with a

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few pockets of beauty and mystery. It's where most of

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Nevada's rivers and streams go to did disappearing into the

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dry basin, only to tragically flow into the Great Salt Lake.

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We were financially challenged, not homeless or starving, but we

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definitely struggled and had some very lean times. It felt

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really good to tell people that we were going to

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the cabin. However, it wasn't the quaint, rustic lakeside log

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cabin or alpine chalet that one might have envisioned. After

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what seemed like a really long drive of some over

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rutted dirt roads up through a small canyon, we reached

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a tiny, ramshackle framed house. This pitiful thing looked a

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very out of place, and there wasn't another structure anywhere

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that we could see. I was momentarily disenchanted. The cabin

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consisted of only one room. At one side, there was

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a big iron stove, possibly a few cabinets. It had

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no running water or electricity. It had at least one

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window on each side and two doors front and back.

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The ladder opened onto a short path that led to

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a small creek surrounded by shade trees. Because of the

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property slope, they had leveled the cabin using pallets and

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shims on the downhill side. This made the front left

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side stand off the ground a couple of feet, making

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the windows on the sides fairly high up to anyone

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walking along. There wasn't much in the way of furnishings.

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A couple of old metal bed frames that someone had

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placed sheets of plywood on, and those served as couches

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and beds. Using sawhorses and wood slats, we made a

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tiny table by removing the plywood sheet, setting a sawhorse

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in the middle, and adding a one by six slant

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to each end for seating, and replacing the plywood crossways

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on the sawhorse for a table. Out there. We never

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encountered people. We never even saw another car. A badger

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would always pop up out of its burrow by the

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road to race our car as we neared the cabin,

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and as soon as he gave up the chase, he

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would duck back down in another hole. Our friend the badger,

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was one of the highlights of our visit. Mom watched

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out for him and would call out to us when

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she spotted him so we didn't miss out. She would

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slow down for a bit for him to keep up

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for as long as he could. Inside the cabin at night,

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mice would skid her back and forth over the floor,

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and in the daylight you could see their tiny prints

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in the dust. It was a little unnerving to hear

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them scurrying about at night. We really didn't mind the

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isolation so much, though. My three sisters and I love

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being out in the wilderness and roughing it. As far

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as my parents were concerned, the more remote the better.

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They hated sharing the great outdoors, and with few exceptions,

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camping and hiking were pretty much the only kind of

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vacation our family ever took. One day, we realized that

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we could dam up the creek with rocks to create

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a little pool for us to sit in, kind of

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like a hot tub, only filled with the icy mountain

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runoff on a hot day. It was divine. Overspill allowed

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the creek to still float within hiking distance. There was

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an abandoned garnet mine that reportedly had belonged to Alfred Hitchcock.

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We climbed huge dunes of garnets, where we had hoped

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to see shiny rids. We found heaps of dusky maroon pebbles,

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smaller than BB's in rough in texture, and if you

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tried to polish one, I think there might not be

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anything left. Possibly the larger stones had been extracted, leaving

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these which were likely industrial grade, if of any value.

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We had many happy stays at the cabin through the years,

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even when some of us were entering our teens, we

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still look forward to going. In the spring or summer

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of nineteen seventy one, after the four of us had

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been staying with our grandparents, we were excited and waiting

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for our mom to pick us up because she had

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promised we'd go straight to the cabin. When mom arrived,

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we virtually pounced on her, our excitement running over. She

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seemed oddly reticent. I got the impression that she was

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hoping we'd forgotten. Before leaving, we had lunch where the

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subject of bigfoot came up. Our grandmother had started buying

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the National Inquirer. We had never seen a more Outrageous magazine,

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and the issue that we were most fascinated with was

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the one about the notorious Bigfoot creature. There were stills

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from the Patterson Gimlin film, artist depictions and eyewitness accounts,

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and photos of tracks that had been cast in maps

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that showed the locations of sightings. Our mother seemed a

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little bothered by the topic, and she kept trying to

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steer the conversation away from Bigfoot. Most of the drive

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to the cabin was unremarkable, but because I was kind

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of a pest and I realized the topic of Bigfoot

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made Mom uneasy, I continued to talk about it. My

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sisters picked up on my cues and joined in on

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the ruse. In our minds, we were just having some

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harmless fun and Mom listened, tight lipped, but finally retorted, Oh,

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that's just out there in California. It's not here. Oh no, oh, Mom,

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I said, they say they're seeing them all over now,

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even in Nevada. Of course I hadn't read or heard

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any such thing, but she went quiet again, so we

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decided to stop torturing her, and we soon forgot about

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it all For the rest of the drive. We took

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it in turns arguing and singing annoying road trip songs,

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or napping. We all perked up. However, when our faithful

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friend the Badger popped out of his burrow beside the

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road for a race he had never disappointed us. Everything

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seemed right for the moment. Our spirits dampened. However, when

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we saw the sorry state of our favorite getaway. The

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back door had been completely torn off and tossed down

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the hill, and the hinges were bent and twisted from

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the violent removal. There was no way we could set

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it back in, even if we had the tools, which

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we did not. The interior was full of leaves and

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dirt that had blown in. Sweeping the floor, we could

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see dried mud that had been tracked in. Mom was

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dismissive and said that she heard that hunters had been

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using the cabin. I wonder why they tore the back

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door off, because it was never locked. Even if it

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had been, they could have just broken the lock. Also,

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deer season was pretty cold, you'd think hunters would appreciate

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a door. Anyway, We shrugged it off and cleaned it

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up and went out to our pool for a dip.

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Our dam had been broken up in the preceding year

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during reconstruction, we silently cussed out those rude hunters. It

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wasn't the first time my favorite outdoor area had been

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spoiled by hunters, so we didn't think much more about it.

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It got dark and Mom's anxiety returned and intensified as

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the night wore on. We attacked a large sheet of

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heavy plastic she had found to cover the doorway. We

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hung it like a curtain. After dinner, we went to bed,

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everyone except Mom. She stayed up all night stoking the

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fire and the old iron coal and wood stove. I

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was a light sleeper and kept waking up because I

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heard her pacing now and then she'd rush over and

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she'd ask, are you okay? Are you girls okay? It

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was a little annoying, but I'd assure her that we

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were finding the plywood mattress was comfortable, and surprisingly it was.

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It was at that point I began to feel guilty

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for filling her head with the Bigfoot stories. But I

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never thought she'd taken us seriously. Besides, she was the

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bravest person I had ever known. Now I wish I

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had stayed awake with her or asked her to lie

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down with us, after all, she had driven nearly all day,

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but kids can be pretty self centered. During the night,

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it began to snow, with an average elevation of sixty

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eight hundred feet. It was the time of year that

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it could snow anytime, so it could have been as

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early as April or spring break, or between June through August.

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Not sure when exactly we were there, though I thought

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the gentle snow flurries were beautiful and peaceful until a sudden,

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loud wind gust blew the plastic sheeting that hung over

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the door and sent it flapping up into the room.

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It's possible that Mom's anxiousness was getting to me, because

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at the moment the wind blasted that plastic sheet, I

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sat uprightfully, expecting to see bigfoot standing in the doorway

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and roaring at us. But there was nothing but blackness

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that stared back at me, and only the wind howled.

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It was a frightening moment. Nonetheless, Mom scrambled to secure

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the plastic around the doorframe the edges, and we settled

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into an uneasy wait for daylight. We left the next day,

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never to return. For the most part, I thought it

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was just all a funny scare over nothing. Really. I

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don't recall any of us kids ever asking to go

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back in. Our parents never again suggested we go to

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the cabin again for a trip. Sorry, little Badger friend,

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we sure miss you now. In twenty twenty, my mother

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was eighty four and I was sixty one. She was

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bedridden and she had dementia. The television kept her occupied.

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One show she liked was Unsolved Mysteries, which usually covered

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crimes or disappearances. But one time, while I was taking

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care of her, an episode about Bigfoot came on. A

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little ways into it. Mom said, Oh, that's just silly.

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You don't think that's real, do you. I told her,

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I thought it was possible that they were real, that

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there were a lot of personal accounts, and I found

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many people who reported encounters quite credible. Mom's demeanor changed notably,

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so I paused the program. She told me something that

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had happened to her and dad at the cabin. It

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was the time they'd send us girl to stay at

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Grandma's that took advantage of being temporarily childless and went

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to the cabin. I find it odd neither of them

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until now had ever mentioned that they'd gone there alone,

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not that it would have mattered to us kids, but

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it's odd that they never said anything about it. Mom

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said she woke up in the middle of the night

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when something jiggled a doorknob. What or whoever it was

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was very large and heavy, and it went around the cabin,

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trying each door and windows, circling around and around. She

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said that she was afraid to even look at the

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windows for fear of what she might see. And she

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said that she felt kind of a terror that she'd

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never felt before. I could see how it still scared

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her to talk about it well. She woke my dad

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to tell him what was going on. They laid there listening,

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whispering only as necessary. They assumed it was a person,

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and Dad was concerned the person might be armed. He

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didn't want to force a confrontation in the dark with

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some one who obviously had an advantage on them, especially

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since he himself was not armed. They decided to pack

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up quickly at first like and made a mad dash

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to the car to leave. I asked my mom if

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she saw anything of what was outside the cabin that night.

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She said that we really couldn't see anything. It was

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just a shadowy outline, but it was very tall. In

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the early morning light, they saw it run off, zigzagging

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through the trees very fast. If it had been a person,

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there would have been no accommodations out there to run to,

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no nearby roads if they had come by a car.

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It was remote and mostly barren wilderness. After Mom and

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Dad's strange night, the next time she saw the cabin

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was alone with her daughters. She found it with the

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door ripped off in the mud tracked floors, and that

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must have been terrifying sight for her, especially knowing that

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we had no gun or any way to call for help.

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She probably should have left thin. I asked her why

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we didn't leave, and why she chose to stay. She

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admitted that she didn't want to disappoint us or let

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fear get the better of her. I think she hadn't

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shared with anyone until she told me last year. When

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I said it was odd that none of us ever

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asked to go back, she said, it wouldn't have done

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you any good anyway. I wasn't taking you back. We

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never really feared creatures of the wilderness, even though there

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are cougars and some black bears in the mountains and

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the high deserts of Nevada in Utah, where we spent

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a lot of time. On one camping trip up Wheeler Peak

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before there were any roads up there, when we were

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all pretty young, a mountain lion screamed at us all

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night long. Before we had set up camp. Dad had

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buried a deer carcass. He said, look like a mountain

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lion had been feeding on it. But he thought that

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the big cat was finished. The big cat disagreed loudly. Still,

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I don't remember being very scared even then, even though

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we had just slept out on the ground, no tent ever.

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We just slept under the stars, but til the cabin.

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That's how we camped under the stars. I never said so,

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but I hated it. Mom told me that she and

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Dad many years later, did make one last trip up

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to the cabin just to see it. They found it

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in even worse shape, and not just run down. The

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front door had also been ripped off like the back,

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and that heavy wrought iron stove had been ripped out.

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They found it busting up, lying in a ditch quite

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away from the house. I really can't imagine people doing that,

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even if they could have can you. It was a

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cold and moonlit night and my church group was meeting

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at Rocky Springs for a bonfire. After it got dark,

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the group came up with the idea to visit the

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old church. I was a little nervous, but I went

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along with the crowd. We went into the church and

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hit a few keys on the old organ that had

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been there for years, and then the girls decided to

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stroll through the dark cemetery. It was a loud crowd,

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and I told them not to be noisy so as

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not to disturb the dead. After a few hours, everybody

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left me there by myself. I eased down the church

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driveway by myself and took out a small fluorescent light

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I kept in my shirt pocket. I turned my light

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on in the darkness of night, feeling a little uneasy

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and nervous. It was at the foot of a drive

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by a cedar tree that was on my left side,

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which is still there today. All of a sudden, a

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piece of brick came flying from the cemetery. It hit

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the cedar tree branches and it nearly hit me. I

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looked around, but I couldn't see what through it. I

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jumped out and ran like a scared rabbit. Running as

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fast as I could, I got up in my truck

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and turned it on and got out of there. I

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don't know what threw that rock, but someone once told

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me that bigfoot guard cemeteries at night. Well. I went

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back there twenty years later, but this time I packed

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a pistol, not taking any chances. All those years later,

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I still felt uneasy around the old church. Had we

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disturbed the dead? Or was it a sasquatch. Here's another

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little fact. The whole town of Rocky Springs died from

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a rare disease, so don't drink the water if you

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go there to visit. I moved away from home as

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soon as I turned eighteen, and I found a place

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to rent thirty miles from where I worked. It was

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an old double wide trailer set back in the woods

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where I didn't have any neighbors to deal with, and

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I could do pretty much anything an eighteen year old

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farm kid could ever want. After living there for a week,

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I started noticing strange stuff, small things. At first, lights

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would be on that I knew were turned off. Stuff

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would go missing, only to turn up in places that

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didn't make any sense. Tools would disappear from whatever car

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I happened to be attempting to restore. At the time,

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I'd find them scattered around too far out to have

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been thrown even in a fit of rage, as anyone

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familiar with working on a car can relate to. Once,

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I was in the middle of replacing a radiator hose

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and I stopped to make a run to the convenience

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store for cigarettes. Before I left, I put a wrench

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that I was using on top of my toolbox, figured

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I'd only be gone for an hour at the most.

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When I got back, there was no sign of the wrench.

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Eventually I found it in the corner of an old

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lean to that later became my furs shd. After a

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few months, things got more weird. Doors would slam in

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the middle of the night, Dishes would break. Another time,

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I came home and all my silverware had been dumped

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out on the floor. A bottle of Scots that was

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given to me by a coworker exploded in the cupboard.

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And then things got worse, and eventually I started making

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plans to get out of there. But about that time

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I started hearing something walking around the house and yelling

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my name and telling me to come outside. Two weeks

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of that, I finally left and moved to Lebanon, Missouri.

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A lot way back to that house a few times,

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but it sat empty since I left. No one wants

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to live out there. It's too far from everything and

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there's no jobs close by. Now, let me tell you

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a story about my girlfriend at the time. The house

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she lived in was close to the site of a

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Union camp that was attacked by Confederate soldiers during the

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Civil War. Or one night she was out closing the

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chicken coop. While she was inside, she heard two men

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whispering what sounded like battle plans, something to the effect of,

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we'll bring the cavalry in from the west. They won't

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be able to head south because of the river. The

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artillery will hit them from the north, and they'll be

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dead before sunrise. And then I have one more story

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that took place two miles from my girlfriend's house. We

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were walking around in abandoned property, and by the look

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of things, the owner had gotten up in the middle

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of dinner, loaded everything into their sixties rambler and crashed

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it into a tree. There were still boxes and trunks

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containing clothes and other belongings on the way out, we

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started to feel like we were being followed. We noticed

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a strong odor, like rotting fish in a full outhouse

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in the heat of July. Close to the end of

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the driveway, I saw a pile of small animal bones,

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probably a cat a raccoon from the size. When we

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got back to the house, we talked it over and

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decided to go back and check it out some more.

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This time I had the sense to go more prepared,

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so I grabbed a handgun and an extra mag and

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I grabbed a machette and a headlamp and a shovel

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and a hatchet. When we returned, the smell was even stronger.

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We searched the old shop and the storm shelter, and

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after a while we decided to take a closer look

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at those bones. I noticed a cut on the inside

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of the animal spine. It looked like the throat had

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been cut. A little further away, my girlfriend found another

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pile and another one further along. Over the next few

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days we found three hundred and sixty five complete skeletons

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belonging to cats and small dogs, and they were placed

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in a circle around the house and the surrounding buildings.

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The whole time we were there, it felt like something

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was standing right behind us. I don't know what was

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going on or what was there with us, but I

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know I'll never visit that house again. For the greater

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part of my life, I never believed in things like sisquatch,

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But when I overheard my dad listening to your channel,

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I was converted. I live in western Washington State, and

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I have for most of my life. My parents have

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taken us fishing and hiking for years, and we're used

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to the forests of the Pacific Northwest. We live way

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down a dirt road that borders some old logging land,

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where my family and I often walk back there. We

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could hike out to the lakes and sometimes for a

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birthday get to go shooting at the old quarry well.

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One night a couple of years ago, a huge thunderstorm

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rolled into our area. The clouds were so thick that

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the sky had become a black abyss. There was thunder

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and lightning and rain in hell, and it was one

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hell of a tempest. That night, my family and I

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were watching a movie when my sister exclaimed that she

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had just seen lightning at once. My mom and dad

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and three youngest siblings and our dog Boaz, jumped up

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and went to the back door to watch the storm.

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My brother and I stayed behind to finish what we

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were doing, but within a few minutes, urged by the

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many oohs and ahs of the rest of our family,

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we ran to the back door to see what was

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going on. Well. The storm was spectacular. Lightning streaked across

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the dark backdrop of the clouds in a brilliant flash

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of white and purple, and thunder boomed the seconds after,

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as if celebrating the joys of lightning's intricate dance. Droplets

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of rain as large as marbles plummeted down to the

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earth and exploded into even or orbs of water as

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they hit the ground. It was a joyous and standing

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there watching the power and strength of nature as it

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displayed its awesome might to us. But we stood there

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watching the storm for a while until the lightning started

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to die down. Everyone went back inside to enjoy the

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rest of their evening except my brother and our dog

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and me. We were hoping to catch a few more

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glimpses of plasma in the sky from outside the back door.

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We waited outside for the next bolt of lightning, when

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bos started acting funny. It was walking around us and

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acting skittish. My brother let him back inside in exchange

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to confused. Look with me, that was weird, I said.

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A boez is a big dog, about thirty inches wide

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at the shoulder, and he's protective and he would usually

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throw himself at anything he deemed as dangerous before he

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let it get anywhere near us, so his behavior was

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very unusual. A few minutes later, a scream came roaring

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out of the edge of the woods. It was one

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of the most terrifying things I have ever experienced. To

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describe it, it would not be true to its nature.

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It was like an owl screech, but louder, fiercer, and

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fused with a wild man's howl, and it was coming

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from the edge of our woods, only one hundred feet

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from our back door. My brother and I locked eyes

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wide with fear, knowing it was no ordinary creature. It

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was something unknown and alien. We didn't wait to see

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if it would make its horrible call again. We bolted inside,

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scared to death of the unknown menace lurking in the

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walls of our forest. Our family oblivious to the sheer

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terror that we had just experienced was sitting down relaxing,

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having a grand old time watching their movie, and my

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dad asked us if we had seen any more lightning,

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and we told him that a creature was screaming from

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the woods. When we were done with our story. Our

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dad thought for a bit and then said it was

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probably just a cougar and that we had nothing to

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worry about. I argued back with him, it wasn't a cougar.

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I said, I'd heard what cougar screams sound like, and

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it was completely different. My dad still blew it off

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his children's over excited imaginations and he left it at that.

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We never talked about it since, but my brother and

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I will never forget that night. I had a good

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friend who drove a log truck until he passed away

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in two thousand and seven. Like a lot of old

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truck drivers, Jeffrey had his share of tall tales. There

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is a place about thirty miles from where I live

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in Georgia called Raytown. Jeffrey was born in there. Raytown

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is a very remote place. It's a hunter's paradise and

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also an area full of big timber. Over the years,

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we have done some logging in that area quite a bit.

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Jeffrey always claimed that Bigfoot roam the woods there, but

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I never really believed him until late one night in

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January of twenty and ten. My crew and I were

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working far back down along dirt road. At the time.

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I was driving the truck, but on this particular track

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we were hauling pulp wood, but we also had chippers

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set up to grind the smaller debris and hauled chips

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to bio mass plants about one hundred miles away. My

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sister had called me earlier in the day and asked

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if we could meet up and let my young nephew

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ride with me in the big truck. We met at

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a local restaurant around six pm, and my little buddy

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Cody hopped in with me, and we took off and

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headed for Raytown time a year. It was already dark

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when I picked up my nephew, and as we drove along,

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I told him that we were headed to a dark,

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spooky place. Well, Cody didn't mind. He was just happy

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to be in the truck with me. I even had

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to hit the jake brakes for him every few miles

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because he loved the sound of it. As we neared

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the dirt road. I told him not to worry, always

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have a ruger with me. We were five miles in

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on a dirt road when all of a sudden, something

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hit the hood of the truck. It sounded like a baseball.

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What the hell was that, I mumble to myself. On

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a dirt road, gravel wool, ping the fuel tanks and

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quarter fenders, and even ping against the headache rack. Those

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are familiar sounds, but this was different. It was intentional.

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Someone threw a big rock at the hood of my

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Peter Bilt. I knew no person would be out in

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those woods, fourteen miles from the nearest town on a

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twenty five degree night throwing rocks. Cody was pondering what

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could have thrown something at the truck, and I immediately

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thought about Jeffrey's bigfoot tales. I've always heard they throw

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rocks anyway. I couldn't speak for a few minutes, but

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I wasn't scared one bit. I finally believed Jeffrey, and

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it's a pity that he wasn't around for me to

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tell him my story. Twelve years ago, I was having

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a campfire at my house with my brother in law.

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We had a couple of beers so that we could

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unwind after a long day of coaching our travel soccer

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team in a tournament. It was a nice, clear summer

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night and I was looking up into the sky, watching

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the smoke from our campfire drift into the atmosphere. You

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can see the lights from some planes, and we were

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enjoying the evening. I glanced over at my brother in law.

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He was staring at the sky too, and he had

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a puzzled look on his face. What are you looking at,

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I asked him. I don't know what it is, he said.

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00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,559
I looked up and saw six or so different colored

479
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:09,960
flashing lights in a circular pattern. They didn't look like

480
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,559
any plane or anything else that I had ever seen

481
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,599
in the night sky before. It was motionless, high up

482
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,640
in the sky, with no discernible sound coming from it

483
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,920
that we could hear. We watched the lights for several minutes,

484
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,279
and then all of a sudden, they shot across the

485
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:29,359
sky and they disappeared at a speed that was way

486
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,640
too fast for any aircraft. I checked the news the

487
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,680
next day and even reached out to a local UFO

488
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:40,119
website to see if anyone had reported seeing it, but

489
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,000
there was nothing. Now I'd like to tell you a

490
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:49,519
story about once I went squatching. My extended family owns

491
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:52,599
one hundred and fifty acres of farmland in woods in

492
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:57,680
rural western Pennsylvania. My cousin owns a huge A frame

493
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:01,680
house on the property. Going away with this family and

494
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,599
had just gotten a new puppy. He asked if I

495
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,240
wanted to dog sit for the weekend and he would

496
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,359
pay me for my time. Well, I jumped at the

497
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,640
opportunity to hang out in this huge house all weekend

498
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,200
and not be cramped at my parents' house. I've been

499
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:22,000
interested in cryptozoology and aliens since I was a kid. Now.

500
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,759
I remember watching In Search of with Leonard Nimoy and

501
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:28,400
being interested in the mystery of it all at an

502
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,640
early age. One night at the A frame I decided

503
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,720
to go out with my flashlight and try to do

504
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,279
some whoops and howls and tree knocking and listen for

505
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:42,079
some kind of a response. The next thing I knew,

506
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,119
fear swept over me like a light switch, and my

507
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,039
thoughts turned panicked. What if I got a response, would

508
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,799
that be a good thing, I thought to myself. And

509
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,880
what if the creature was aggressive? I thought? Even Further,

510
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,440
I grew up camping, boating, hunting, fishing, and I'm no

511
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,440
stranger to the outdoors. I even wrote for a Pennsylvania

512
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,039
outdoor magazine for several years as a fishing columnist. I

513
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,920
don't scare easily in the woods, but that night was different.

514
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,960
Headed back to the house as quickly as I could,

515
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,440
and I locked the door behind me, and I grabbed

516
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,559
a handgun and I sat on the couch. If I

517
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,319
decided to go back out, I think I will find

518
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,480
a partner to go with me for my own peace

519
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,960
of mind. Okay, I hope you guys enjoyed those new stories.

520
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,119
I think that was five or six new stories. Now

521
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:38,200
I'm going to drop an archive story behind this, so

522
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,359
if you begin to listen, you've already heard it. Just

523
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,960
click away. But some people haven't heard all these, and

524
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:46,279
I thought I would include some in videos going forward,

525
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:48,519
but I'll always warn you. Thanks for joining me on

526
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,160
the podcast, and we'll see you guys on the next one.

527
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,519
Here comes an archive to podcast. Thanks. I can't remember

528
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:59,759
when I got this story. It's been not too terribly long,

529
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,400
but it's one of the craziest stories I've ever read,

530
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,799
and I've never I've never thought about this theory. What

531
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:10,160
you're going to learn about now. For the first five

532
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,359
minutes or so, she's going to give some background on

533
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,000
where she's from, what she does. Hang on because this

534
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:19,799
is a long story and it really gets good. I

535
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:24,279
mean it gets really creepy. Here's what Jenna writes. How

536
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,400
the past year has changed my life. I cannot begin

537
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,240
to express, but I will give it my best shot.

538
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,400
My name is Jenna and I'm a twenty nine year

539
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,400
old female geologist spieleeologist, and I was working for the

540
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,480
government within the Department of Geological Survey up until recently.

541
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,319
We were responsible to explore and map out old mind

542
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,759
chefs and cave systems in the Eastern United States. There

543
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:56,000
are several of these teams working throughout the country in

544
00:32:56,079 --> 00:33:00,599
places like the Rockies, Texas, the Midwest, and in Washington State.

545
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:04,519
I've heard that there are also teams in Canada and

546
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Mexico as well. I have been spilunking since I was

547
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,640
five years old with my father and older brothers, so

548
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,279
it became who I was and not just what I did.

549
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:20,079
My experience through the years made me useful to this project.

550
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,519
I was recruited in my last year of graduate school

551
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,240
at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire by Joseph who had

552
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:33,160
become my supervisor and mentor. My eight teammates were all

553
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,599
roughly the same age, and we had various degrees of

554
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:44,079
interest of study, including engineering, archaeology, biology, herpetology and volcanology,

555
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,359
as well as other fields. We were a mixture of

556
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,799
seven men and two women, and all have a love

557
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,119
for the world below the surface, resulting in our pale

558
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,720
skin in very thin frames. Because we spent most of

559
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,720
the days in the dark out of the sunlight, it

560
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:04,359
wasn't all that bad for me being a pale skinned

561
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,519
ginger and ten minutes in the sun I would turn

562
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,559
into a lobster. The meals that we take are mostly

563
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:15,639
small protein bars and water. It's easier to carry with us,

564
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,079
especially when we stayed in the cave system overnight. During

565
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:23,840
the expeditions there were sometimes ten miles deeper more. We

566
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,800
have done many of these over the past four years.

567
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,199
We have made some remarkable discoveries and we've mapped out

568
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,760
miles of cave systems in West Virginia and Kentucky using

569
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,239
a combination of GPR or ground penetration radar and light

570
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,320
ar from the surface, as well as some new technology

571
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,719
that will make for some amazing new discoveries in the future.

572
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,280
Our average expedition would start when we entered a cave

573
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,840
or a small hole in a mountainside and started to

574
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,280
evaluate if it was safe. Understand that we we have

575
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,480
left more caves than we explored due to what appeared

576
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:08,880
to be unsafe, or when our equipment detected gas. Once

577
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,519
we determine that it is safe, we begin to move

578
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:16,320
deeper into the cave and into the twilight zone. There

579
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,360
is no presence of light in the dark zone, and

580
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,920
we see nothing if we turn out the lights. Often

581
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,760
we find chambers and passages off to the sides, or

582
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,199
even drop offs in sinkholes. We can use special drones

583
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,239
with lights and cameras to fly over the drop offs

584
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,800
or down the sinkholes, or on top of shelves or

585
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,639
ledges above our reach to see if there are any

586
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,639
points of interest below or above us that we need

587
00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:48,840
to explore. Using those drones have given us access to

588
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,559
new passages and chambers that no human has ever seen,

589
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,519
some of which have led to miles of passages and

590
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,400
enormous chambers, one of which was over one hundred feet

591
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,199
tall and three football feels long fifty yards wide, and

592
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,239
we nicknamed that one the ballroom. We have discovered entrances

593
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,559
to cave systems that were not noticeable from the top

594
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:17,159
side or outside the cave. Some of the entrances have

595
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,400
been behind waterfalls, crevices, and cliffs, and under roots of

596
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:25,320
large trees, and even behind some dead falls that appear

597
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:28,519
to have been pushed up against it to conceal the entrance.

598
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,280
We have mapped some systems that will travel miles into

599
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,519
another exit or entrance, with the longest one being twenty

600
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:40,360
seven miles in southeast Kentucky and it goes into Tennessee,

601
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360
and that required us to stay in the cave for

602
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,000
over two weeks. We have scanner units mounted onto our

603
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:51,280
helmets that capture three D imagery of the cave as

604
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,079
we travel, and we also use GPS signals that rarely

605
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,679
are detected above the surface, but we still have them

606
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,320
and occasionally get closer enough to the surface to get

607
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,960
our data to the base camp to be collected. We

608
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,440
have other tools that we have used in the past.

609
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:11,960
One includes a buoy with a GPS unit. We dropped

610
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,159
one in a fast moving underground River near the West

611
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,800
Virginia Kentucky state line to see where or if it

612
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,960
would ever surface. To our amazement, it reappeared five weeks later,

613
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:29,440
almost three hundred miles away in the Clinch River near Kingston, Tennessee.

614
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,719
We were astonished it must have traveled under another river

615
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,559
system to arrive to the Clinch River. We are now

616
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:41,199
developing equipment that we can capture imagery of the underground

617
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,280
river system without our team having to dive into those

618
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,280
underground rivers, with the hopes of capturing the constant location

619
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,239
of the device and the depth under the sea level

620
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,960
as well that will be able to explain how these

621
00:37:55,079 --> 00:38:00,320
rivers are crossing. Other findings are also worth mentioning. We've

622
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,000
found several species of animals or insects that were unknown

623
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,519
or thought to not inhabit this region, as well as

624
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,199
numerous cave drawings that date back over ten thousand years,

625
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:17,119
along with artifacts such as pottery from the early fourteen hundreds,

626
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:22,960
spears and arrowheads, muskets or black powder rifles, a couple

627
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,840
of swords. We found knives, shells, some gold and silver

628
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,519
coins from seventeen hundred Europe, along with bones and I

629
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,800
mean a lot of bones. These discoveries found miles underground,

630
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:43,199
far from known entry points. We report our findings before

631
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,599
moving further, and it slows down the exploration process because

632
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:49,760
we have to wait for another team to go in

633
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,280
and gather the artifacts. Without us, we would contaminate the scene.

634
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,679
The real question was how did someone get this far

635
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,719
into the cave system with torches, as they would have

636
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,679
to have burnt out well before they got that deep.

637
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,519
They would have had to carry extra torches with them,

638
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:12,800
and why would they have traveled this deep while the

639
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,440
other team was in our cave. We would go to

640
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,079
another cave for several weeks until we were given the

641
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:21,840
go ahead to continue our explanation of the original cave.

642
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:25,840
Rarely were we given any information on what the other

643
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,239
team's findings revealed, especially when it was about bones or

644
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,039
modern day items like a shiny new shotgun we had found,

645
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,440
or the backpack with a West Virginia Park map that

646
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,519
was printed in twenty eighteen and it was over seven

647
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:45,960
thousand feet into the cave system. We would write it

648
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,760
off to people going beyond their limits and getting lost

649
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,679
in the cave and losing their belongings as they roamed

650
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,760
about in the darkness. And as for the other team,

651
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,320
they were a dull bunch of people with no personality

652
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,920
yet trying to talk to them, they were tight, left

653
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,360
about their business. They were almost what we would think

654
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:12,239
of as a stiff government or maybe a CIA personality type.

655
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,400
There were occasions where we would pass them coming or

656
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,280
going and they wouldn't take the time to speak to anyone.

657
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,360
They wouldn't drop any clues or share any findings, absolutely nothing.

658
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,920
Using our newest technology that we had developed was the sphere,

659
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:33,000
which was a mobile GPR light hoar sphere that set

660
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:35,599
up on a tripod in the middle of chambers, which

661
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:40,559
we would leave overnight to scan. The results were beyond belief.

662
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,880
We have found new tunnels that are blocked by large

663
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,880
rocks or boulders. The stones are so heavy that several

664
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440
men working together could not move them for us to

665
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:54,400
explore further. But we knew the boulders had been placed

666
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,639
there because the scars remained on the floors and walls

667
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,159
they had been rolled into position. We had a heavy

668
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,960
hydraulic jack design to lift rocks off of us should

669
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,400
we become trapped, and we found that this jack could

670
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,880
move the boulders enough to gain entrance into hidden chambers

671
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,480
or caverns. And now that I've given you a brief

672
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,400
description of what we do and how we do it,

673
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,440
I want to tell you of my account that began

674
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:27,320
on Friday, August the thirteenth of all days in twenty

675
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,639
twenty one. We had been mapping out a cave system

676
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,079
south of Grayson, Kentucky, and we were five miles deep

677
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,280
into the system when we dropped off of a shelf

678
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,840
about twenty feet using our climbing gear to discover a

679
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,039
new passage. It led back east to half a mile

680
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:49,119
to an oval shaped chamber, and at the far end

681
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:53,039
of the chamber was a large boulder blocking another passage

682
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,880
that we found by setting up our sphere overnight. The

683
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,360
following Monday was August the sixteenth, and we analyzed the

684
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,400
data and we determined it was worth exploring. After moving

685
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,559
the rock, we followed the passage for another half mile

686
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,159
and then we decided to back out and call it

687
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:17,639
a day. We returned on the seventeenth to the oval

688
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,719
chamber and we found the rock had rolled back to

689
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,880
block the entrance. We jacked it back open again and

690
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,559
placed smaller rocks under it to keep it from rolling

691
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:31,800
back while we were in there exploring. We then entered

692
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,719
the passage and began to map out the system where

693
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,800
we left off. Through the day, we discovered a labyrinth

694
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,599
of passages going in all directions. Some were dead ends,

695
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,079
and some were working their way back to the main cavern.

696
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,679
The areas that didn't reconnect, we would follow those for

697
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,679
five hundred feet and then turned back. There were so

698
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,760
many that we wanted to see, but this system could

699
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,119
be thoroughly explored. Later. We were getting our bearings and

700
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:08,840
taking notes, and we were excited about this discovery. We

701
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,119
started noticing different items, such as fresh leaves and small

702
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,280
twigs on the cave floor. They were green, they weren't dead,

703
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,360
but they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

704
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,760
In the largest passage, we found a shallow stream with

705
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,559
a mud and a swet bottom and bank, and in

706
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:31,440
that mud we found tracks of all sizes. They were

707
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:35,679
human looking tracks. Some were smaller than my feet and

708
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,599
others were twenty four inches long and ten inches wide. Laurie,

709
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,239
my female teammate, carefully examined the toes to see if

710
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,719
there were claw marks, because that would lead us to

711
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,639
believe that it was a bear. But she found none. Well.

712
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:54,119
The day was late and we pulled out again, marking

713
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:57,280
our route with illuminated paint of different colors, as we

714
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,360
always did when exploring new systems. The footprints gave us

715
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,320
all concern, but it also was exciting. The passage was

716
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,320
nine feet high and we could not imagine a giant

717
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,880
of a man walking around in there. But this raised

718
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,159
questions beyond belief, so we all decided to keep this

719
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:23,199
finding to ourselves for the time being. On Wednesday, the eighteenth,

720
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,800
we found that the rock had again been rolled back

721
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,320
over the entrance and we had to move it with Jacks. Rodney,

722
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,000
the archaeologist, said that he was going to bust it

723
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:37,000
into pieces if it happened again, and we proceeded to

724
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:39,800
the stream where we had left off the previous day

725
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,519
to find more tracks. We slowly moved along the stream,

726
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:47,599
following the direction of the footprints as it flowed down

727
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:51,239
the center of the cavern. A quarter of a mile

728
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,480
through the passage and into the chamber, we discovered some

729
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,880
of the most disturbing items we had ever found. There

730
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,679
were numerous shoes of different sizes, including boots and children's sneakers,

731
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:07,559
some clothing that appeared to be torn, and some looked

732
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:09,719
like it had dried blood on it, and they were

733
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,400
all in piles like someone had been sleeping on them.

734
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,199
There were backpacks and coats. There was a hatchet and

735
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,519
some knives, a couple of firearms, and children's toys such

736
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:25,559
as dolls and barbies and action figures. There were balls

737
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:29,639
and toy cars lying all about the chamber, and then

738
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:33,639
we found a pile of human bones of all sizes,

739
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,639
including children's, all piled up against the wall at the

740
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:41,400
far end of the chamber. Laurie screamed at the top

741
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000
of her lungs and began crying uncontrollably, and as the

742
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,159
others tried to comfort her, out of the darkness of

743
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:50,559
a passage at the far end of the chamber near

744
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:54,119
the pile of bones, came a scream or a roar

745
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:59,880
of a monstrous volume that shook my insides. It lasted

746
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,840
long time and was immediately answered by another roar from

747
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,679
a different cavern, and then several more. The team instantly

748
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,280
began to run toward the exit, with me bringing up

749
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,400
the rear. I had a feeling that something was behind me,

750
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,599
and I quickly looked back over my shoulder with my

751
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,039
high intensity led light, and I illuminated the face of

752
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:26,239
a beast that was the size of a refrigerator, only

753
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,400
ten feet behind me. In that brief instant, I could

754
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,719
see the beast's lips were curled back, bearing large teeth

755
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,760
which were like ours except for the canines, which were

756
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,400
larger in proportion than a human. It had large, round,

757
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:46,000
black evil eyes and a flat nose, and everything around

758
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,400
the face was covered with hair. The animal covered its

759
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,280
eyes from the light with its hands and screamed in

760
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,280
pain as if the light heard it, and it shrank

761
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880
away from me and my light. It curled up into

762
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,000
a ball onto the floor of the cave, wailing in pain.

763
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,559
I was now backing out of the chamber, trying to

764
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:08,679
keep the light on the beast, when I must have

765
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,400
passed the exit and tumbled into a sinkhole. I got

766
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,559
lucky it was only five feet below the chamber floor.

767
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,480
It could have been deeper and I would have never

768
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:23,119
gotten out of there. I am only five foot four

769
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:25,440
to start with, and I weigh less than one hundred

770
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,599
and ten pounds fully clothed, and I knew if I

771
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,000
couldn't do something quick, I would end up in that

772
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:35,119
bone pile. In front of me, I saw a small

773
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,880
crevice that looked to me about my size, so I

774
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,960
dove into it headfirst, and I began to crawl on

775
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:44,960
my belly back into the darkness. I was ten feet

776
00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:48,039
into the crevice when I heard the monster scream into

777
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:50,559
the mouth of the crevice behind me, and I could

778
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:53,280
feel it reaching into the hole as it started to

779
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,400
claw at the walls. The creature was so cloth I

780
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,239
could smell its foul breath, and this gave me a

781
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,880
surge of strength to move ahead faster. I crawled ahead

782
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,119
without thinking. I was in survival mode and I wanted

783
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:11,920
to get as far from this thing as possible. The

784
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:15,239
roars began to fade the further into the passage I went,

785
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:20,719
and after an hour, I dropped into a room. Stalactites

786
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,440
hung from the low ceiling and I had to walk

787
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:27,360
hunched over, but at least I could stand. I tried

788
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,719
to reach my team on the radio, but I got

789
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,280
nothing in response. If I was going to get out

790
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,440
of there, I had to move upward while avoiding these creatures.

791
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,679
I had to get to the surface. That's all I

792
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,199
could think of. I turned down the intensity of my

793
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000
light to get more life from my batteries, and I

794
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:51,800
continued walking and crawling. I wandered the uncharted passages and

795
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,760
caverns alone for hours, not knowing where I was or

796
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,559
if I was moving to freedom. I lost all sense

797
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,760
of time, and I didn't know if it was day

798
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,400
or night. And to make matters worse, not long after that,

799
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:10,760
I was down to my last spare battery pack. The

800
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,760
only light I would have after those batteries died was

801
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,960
my cell phone. I had turned it off long ago

802
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:21,079
to save it as a last resort for light. And

803
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:24,400
the exhaustion set in, and I clicked off my light

804
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:27,360
and I sat in the blackness, and I fell asleep.

805
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,679
I woke to the distant sounds of clicking and some

806
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,880
sort of gibberish that I didn't understand. The sounds weren't close,

807
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,360
thank goodness, but they were looking for me. Once. It

808
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,639
sounded so human that I thought it might be in

809
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,880
my team members calling for me, and I almost shouted

810
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,960
to them, but I waited to make sure, and I'm

811
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,639
glad I did, because minutes later another roar came from

812
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:58,000
the same direction. I drank the last of my water

813
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,119
and I ate the final protein bar. I then turned

814
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,599
my light off and I curled into a fetal position,

815
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,440
hoping the sounds would stop so I could move again. Strangely,

816
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:12,679
I felt an evil presence near me, and I knew

817
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:18,519
the creatures were near, but still I waited. Hours later,

818
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:21,719
the noises stopped, and I assumed they had given up

819
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,840
their search for me. So I got moving, always trying

820
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,639
to move upward. Freedom was above me, and I had

821
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:33,760
to get there. Two maybe three days later, I felt

822
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,760
hope slipping away. I had lost all sense of time,

823
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,480
and I was weakened now from hydration, and I was

824
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:45,320
starving to death. I only used my headlamp briefly. I

825
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,320
would click it on, look ahead as far as I

826
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,280
could see, and then turn it off, and then I

827
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,480
would feel my way to something until I needed light again.

828
00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:58,039
While alone in a place this silent, your sense of

829
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:02,159
hearing heightens. There or no other noises to interfere with

830
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:06,119
what you were hearing. While taking a break, and without

831
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:09,800
the noise of my movements, I heard the hum of traffic.

832
00:51:11,079 --> 00:51:13,480
I moved toward the sound until I saw a faint

833
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:18,199
rays of light penetrating the passage wall. I was overjoyed,

834
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,159
and I was filled with a surge of energy. There

835
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,679
was a small crevice that would be tight even for

836
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,039
my small body to escape through, but I pushed through

837
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:32,480
it anyway into the sunlight. I was standing at the

838
00:51:32,519 --> 00:51:35,280
base of a cliff that I would later find out

839
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,639
was next to Kentucky State Route seven. Cars were speeding

840
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:46,480
pass below me. I had made it out alive. My

841
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:50,360
phone still had a charge, and I called my supervisor. Well.

842
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,239
She was ecstatic to hear from me. She said, they

843
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,559
picked up my GPS tracker twenty minutes ago. My tracker

844
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:00,559
must have started broadcasting when I got near the crevice,

845
00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:05,480
and state troopers were on their way, she said. The

846
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:08,480
police took me back to my hotel room, and I

847
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,920
felt like I drank a gallon of water while we drove. Now,

848
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,239
I wanted to get a shower in something to eat,

849
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,800
but as I got out of the car, four men

850
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,559
approached and ushered me into a small hotel conference room.

851
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,159
I assumed they knew I was exhausted in Hungary and

852
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:29,239
that this meeting would not take long, But I was wrong.

853
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,119
Two of the men were from the Department of the Interior,

854
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,000
one was a federal Game and Fish official, and the

855
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:42,800
last was with the US Geological Survey. The date was

856
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,119
August twenty second, and they wanted me to recount the

857
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:52,440
last ninety six hours my scanner was still operating. From

858
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,480
that data, we found that I had traveled eleven miles

859
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:58,719
underground from the point at which I fell into the sinkhole.

860
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:04,559
They began asking me about the bear we had encountered. Well,

861
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:07,280
I was a biology major, but I knew damn well

862
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,559
that the creature was not a bear, and I said so.

863
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,880
I described the creature in great detail, but still they

864
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,440
continued calling it a bear. They questioned me for three hours.

865
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,719
At some point I told them I had answered every

866
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,360
question and that I was done, and after walking out,

867
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,000
I headed to my room and I took a long shower.

868
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,559
Some food was brought to me, so I ate like

869
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:36,639
I had never tasted food, and then I went to sleep.

870
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:40,920
I was still a bit confused when I woke, but

871
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:44,679
I felt rested and ready to find my teammates. I

872
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,800
went to all their rooms, and the only one who

873
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,719
remained there was Tony. He told me that Laurie was

874
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,480
so upset after the event that she had to be

875
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:57,400
sedated and was taken to a local hospital. She had

876
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,400
been released and sent home. The other members of the

877
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,800
team had been put on leaving sent home. They had

878
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,039
all been notified that I made it out, and Tony

879
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:10,320
said they allowed him to stay because he was the

880
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,679
only one who wasn't freaking out. I think that came

881
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,519
from his military training. I later learned that a task

882
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:21,840
force had come in and Tony guided them back into

883
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,559
the cave. There were way too many people there to

884
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:29,320
be looking for a bear, though their main mission, Tony

885
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,119
later decided, was to gather the human remains in clothing.

886
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,239
Tony searched the area with those men, and he found

887
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,480
no sign of a bear, and then they made castings

888
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:43,320
of several tracks in the mud before they destroyed all

889
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,280
the evidence they could find. They spent days in that

890
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,480
cave system searching for that bear, they said, but they

891
00:54:50,519 --> 00:54:54,320
never found an animal. And then it occurred to me

892
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,840
that I may have been the only one who had

893
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,199
seen this creature, because Tony never mentioned it. He kept

894
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,079
saying they searched for a bear, and I think that

895
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,199
is what he thought we were dealing with, and I

896
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,760
had never told him about the creature. I had seen

897
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:14,000
only the men in the conference room. I was going

898
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,760
to leave the next day, but that evening we went

899
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,440
to the bar, and there we found two members of

900
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,159
the task force drinking. After several drinks, one of them

901
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:28,320
began to talk. This fellow told us that this team

902
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,519
was a unit of special forces that were used to

903
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:35,880
hunt down Bigfoot. I had yet to think of a bigfoot,

904
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:39,079
and I was stuck on an unknown monster until then,

905
00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:44,159
and bigfoot was a myth, wasn't it. He continued to

906
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:47,559
tell us that this was only the second underground assignment

907
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,440
they had been on, and that his unit hated the

908
00:55:50,519 --> 00:55:53,639
darkness of the cave systems, even though they were equipped

909
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,800
with special equipment that allowed them to see in the

910
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,400
dark zone, or the part of the cave where there

911
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,920
was a complete absence of light. He said, we were

912
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,760
some of the luckiest people he had ever met, and

913
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,079
my falling into that sinkhole gave all my friends an

914
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:14,440
opportunity to escape because it had captured the interest of

915
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,800
the bigfoot trying to catch me. He admitted that the

916
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,480
government has proof that these animals are traveling underground as

917
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:25,239
much as they are in the moonlight, and there is

918
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:30,440
also evidence of them kidnapping people and eating them. That

919
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:33,039
was obvious to me I had seen the chamber with

920
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:37,599
a pile of bones. He was about to continue with

921
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,480
more information. I mean, this guy was a real bliber mouth.

922
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,440
But one of the men who questioned me grabbed a

923
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,519
hold of him by the shoulder and said that that

924
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:51,119
was enough, soldier, and you should turn in. This fellow

925
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:54,880
then sat down and he asked us what we were told. Well,

926
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,599
at first we were hesitant to tell him, but we

927
00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:00,719
did so anyway, to which he told us us that

928
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,559
the soldier was drunk and he was telling tall tales

929
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:06,320
to scare us, and we shouldn't put much faith in

930
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,239
what he was saying. The next day, we were informed

931
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,519
that our project had lost its funding and we were

932
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:19,000
all terminated and were given a year's wages a severance pay.

933
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,639
I've kept in touch with the others, and it seems

934
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:24,519
that I'm the only one who has been able to

935
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:29,400
find work in this field. Currently, I do geological and

936
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:35,719
soul analysis for a general contractor for building foundations. None

937
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,119
of our group have returned to the darkness of the

938
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:41,679
underworld and its secrets that we loved and cherished up

939
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,719
until that August week. I have been left with more

940
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,039
questions than I care to imagine, was that a Bigfoot

941
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:54,239
we encountered in that cave? Are they using the cave

942
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:59,719
systems to travel undetected? Do they really kidnap people in

943
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:04,760
eats them? What does the government know? What was the

944
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,920
real purpose of the government funding of our expeditions and

945
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:12,280
mapping out the cave systems in the first place. Why

946
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,760
won't the government inform people of these animals and the dangers?

947
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:21,400
And that's the end of her story. Have y'all ever

948
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,760
heard a story like that. I've never heard anything like that.

949
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Now again, like I said in my last video, I

950
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:31,920
don't know if any of these stories that I read

951
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,920
are true, but this was a sure enough story email

952
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:39,320
to me. She has enough information on the job and

953
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,760
the you know, the spielunking equipment and all that stuff

954
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:46,320
that adds a little bit of credibility to the story.

955
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,360
But you know, who knows either way, It was a

956
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,679
real good story. And I tell you what, you couldn't

957
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,039
pay me to go into one of those caves. And

958
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it's not because I think Bigfoot is in there. I

959
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am not terribly clost her, but I've read articles and

960
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:06,039
I've seen videos where people get stuck in these caves.

961
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They can send in twenty or thirty men and they

962
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:11,559
cannot get them unstuck, and the people just have to

963
00:59:11,639 --> 00:59:16,079
lay there and die. What a horrible, horrible way to die.

964
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And I just I can't. And I've seen other videos

965
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with these guys. They squeak through these real tight rock formations,

966
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or they'll be flat on their stomach and the rock

967
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,719
is just right down on them. I always think, man,

968
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,880
if that rock formation shifted just a fraction of an inch,

969
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it would just squash you right there. I know everything

970
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,880
you know. I know that's probably not the way it works,

971
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,360
but it could anyway. I don't want to get stuck

972
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in a dark cave somewhere and die in the dark.

973
00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:50,280
That's just me. But anyway, Jenna, thank you for sending

974
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this story. I really admire your profession. You're a pretty

975
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:58,000
brave girl. All Right, that's gonna wind this podcast up.

976
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I hope you guys enjoyed it. We'll see you on

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the next Thank you really