Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about Kansas their five and oh
Speaker 1: their basketball team is number one in the country and
Speaker 1: they have a Goliath showdown here with Duke coming up
Speaker 1: this week. But first, Cam, you just told me a
Speaker 1: really sad story involving the KU football team, who has
Speaker 1: become I believe, the first team, the first team ever
Speaker 1: to have a losing record and beat three straight ranked
Speaker 1: teams something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct. I equate that to the It's the
Speaker 2: same thing as my college, Northwood University, going to oh
Speaker 2: to six in the Gliac and then winning an award
Speaker 2: for community service. But still kind of cool, that is,
Speaker 2: it's it's incredible that they're in this spot. But you
Speaker 2: mentioned Kansas's punter, who is from Australia. Tell that story.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this, So he's from the land down Onnder.
Speaker 2: Apparently I came across this earlier on the internet today
Speaker 2: out of boredom. And apparently his parents flew over to
Speaker 2: watch him play, which is super cool. Well, it turns
Speaker 2: out Kansas did not punt once, so that his family
Speaker 2: flew across the pond to watch him. I guess hold
Speaker 2: I would assume hold field goals. Maybe I think, because
Speaker 2: I think that's all he probably did. Or extra points even.
Speaker 1: Extra points, yeah, extra points, lots of that. It's it's
Speaker 1: kind of It kind of reminds me of when Kansas
Speaker 1: basketball had Doake's mom come up here all the way
Speaker 1: from Nigeria to watch her son play in a final four,
Speaker 1: and uh, well, she she saw him score the first
Speaker 1: basket of the game and had to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Villanova sucks. That probably was in her mind thirty seconds right,
Speaker 1: and then while very quickly and suddenly.
Speaker 2: Firebomb.
Speaker 1: The whole game just went south.
Speaker 2: But you know, I hold on. I think the worst
Speaker 2: part of that is that she had to watch her son,
Speaker 2: who was the slowest big on the court, have to
Speaker 2: guard like stretch fours and just watch them make three
Speaker 2: after three. It wasn't that they lost, It was that
Speaker 2: she had to watch him struggle against that for forty minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was it was then she probably left thinking,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my Sun's basketball team is the worst
Speaker 1: team that's ever made one of these final fours. And now,
Speaker 1: if she is a history buff, she would acknowledge that
Speaker 1: that final four didn't actually happen. So it makes sense
Speaker 1: correct considering how bad that her opinion of Kansas must
Speaker 1: have been through one game. Because Bill Self won his
Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifteenth basketball game at Allen Field House.
Speaker 1: Wink wink. It was actually his eight hundredth according to
Speaker 1: the history books. All Right, where were you the day
Speaker 1: Bill Self won his eight hundredth basketball game?
Speaker 2: Sir, oh man, I feel like I was in a
Speaker 2: living room.
Speaker 1: Well that is that.
Speaker 2: That's about as exciting as it gets. That is just
Speaker 2: every bit as terriffic riveting.
Speaker 1: But we're going to talk about that number eight hundred
Speaker 1: on what feels like show number eight hundred in my career.
Speaker 1: It's not. But I've done the better part of half
Speaker 1: of those games, I think, which is just sad and
Speaker 1: a lot of it's amazing. That is amazing and sad
Speaker 1: at the same time. This is inside the Paint Two
Speaker 1: Persons Show today for one more episode.
Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Landrath and I'm all two Schools of Paige
Speaker 2: Charlie Weiss nineteen million dollars not coach football.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That yeah. And then and then one
Speaker 1: of those same exact teams was like, hey, let's hire
Speaker 1: this less miles. Guys, Surely that won't happen again.
Speaker 2: I sent I sent Jeff Long an edible arrangement because
Speaker 2: I said something on Twitter once that I was like, yo,
Speaker 2: I'll send you an edible arrangement if you hire less miles.
Speaker 2: And so I sent him an edible arrangement and then
Speaker 2: they wrote about it in the Kansas City Star and
Speaker 2: it went viral because Jeff Long called it an edible
Speaker 2: and his daughter thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: That was you that sent that. I remember reading that
Speaker 1: story and seeing your name.
Speaker 2: This moment in my life.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, that's pretty cool because you sent a gift
Speaker 1: to a very rich man that did a lot of
Speaker 1: very not very good things at the University of Kansas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, allegedly, and well as far as the results, which
Speaker 3: we have, so yeah, Kansas here, they're they're going to
Speaker 3: play duke on on Tuesday night in a game that
Speaker 3: has a lot of hoopla.
Speaker 1: But first, you know, you got it. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving. If you want to get to the dessert,
Speaker 1: you gotta sit through the appetizers. And I guess we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the green bean cas role that
Speaker 1: was the UNC Wilmington game land and we'll be back
Speaker 1: on the next show. Uh, he is still getting he's
Speaker 1: still handling. A couple of things I want to say
Speaker 1: off the court. He say off the court makes him sound.
Speaker 2: He got a ten days suspend me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's go go ahead.
Speaker 2: Landa got a suspension for you know, ten days approximately
Speaker 2: for betting on Iraqi League basketball illegally. Actually that was
Speaker 2: me in college. Don't worry about that, folks. Yeah, he'll
Speaker 2: be back. I did do that once.
Speaker 1: Of course. I remember you betting on foreign league basketball games,
Speaker 1: and it's like, do you even have access to it?
Speaker 1: You're not watching lives.
Speaker 2: That's why I say allegedly, because it was our site
Speaker 2: called Bovada, and it might have been for a time
Speaker 2: period where it was legal.
Speaker 1: That is, it's very very alleged, very very never happened.
Speaker 2: But if it did, it did.
Speaker 1: Let's talk all about Kansas, and I don't even remember
Speaker 1: this was because, like we go, I think it was Wilmington, right, yeah, Wellington,
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it, all right, Five games, five wins,
Speaker 1: Number one Kansas eighty four U n C. Wilmington sixty six. Kansas.
Speaker 1: They are five and zero after a strong open to
Speaker 1: the second half, something we hadn't seen so far this year,
Speaker 1: a good start after halftime and they built an instrumentable
Speaker 1: lead against the Seahawks of Wilmington, Kansas is. If they
Speaker 1: beat Duke, they are North Carolina state champions. Considering three
Speaker 1: of their six opponents so far have come from North Carolina,
Speaker 1: there really aren't a lot of huge storylines here. There
Speaker 1: was just a lot of lineup tinkering. That's probably the
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway. Bill self still trying to find the right
Speaker 1: mix and match. It looks like you're starting to see
Speaker 1: a seven man rotation, maybe an eight man rotation at
Speaker 1: the forefront, with a couple of other guys that play
Speaker 1: on occasion, but overall pretty much a shrug game. They've
Speaker 1: had two of those. Now. We thought that they would
Speaker 1: handle both of their last two opponents, being Oakland and Wilmington,
Speaker 1: and they did just that.
Speaker 2: Neither was in doubt. Yeah, pretty simple game. Dwan Harris
Speaker 2: played well and I see him get some get some
Speaker 2: shots falling if he's Ky's leading scorer with seventeen points
Speaker 2: on six of ten shooting. He had two three pointers.
Speaker 2: He added six assists and two steals in thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Note here it is the most he scored in game
Speaker 2: since his twenty three point out burst against Kentucky and
Speaker 2: last year's Champion Classic. Overall, in my opinion, it's one
Speaker 2: of those games where we knew Kansas was going to win,
Speaker 2: and we saw some different lineups and I think we'll
Speaker 2: talk about that in a little bit, but it was fun.
Speaker 2: We did see that four guard lineup that we've talked
Speaker 2: about a little bit on the show this year, and
Speaker 2: it led to some scoring and then it was taking
Speaker 2: off the court pretty quickly. Thanks Bill. Yeah, overall, pretty
Speaker 2: boring game, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Harris was fantastic. It was great to see Dewan Harris play.
Speaker 1: I was completely I'm a Paul and in here, I
Speaker 1: was completely zero in on the Sunda night football game.
Speaker 1: Did you read to one Harris's stats?
Speaker 2: I did. Yeah, you're good, Okay, cool. Nick Whifers is
Speaker 2: still alive, and well.
Speaker 1: As I'm not gonna be like Nick, it's notting to
Speaker 1: one scored seventeen points because he was great. And you know,
Speaker 1: we saw this, as you said, early in the season
Speaker 1: last year and wondered, oh, this is the Dewan Harris
Speaker 1: that could score. Maybe it'll stick around. And he didn't
Speaker 1: score more than fifteen in the rest of the way
Speaker 1: this year. I predict he does not go the rest
Speaker 1: of the season without scoring fifteen points in a game.
Speaker 1: He looks like he is really comfortable doing what he
Speaker 1: does best, which is not taking any shot. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's taken a single shot in five games that
Speaker 1: has made you go, why is Dewan shooting that? All
Speaker 1: of the ones that he takes are so in control.
Speaker 1: He's the perfect quarterback for this team, playing really really
Speaker 1: good basketball through five games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, high quality shots. He all shoots wide open threes
Speaker 2: and fortunately he made a couple in this game. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean overall, he is the senior point guard that
Speaker 2: you want on a team that has a lot of
Speaker 2: scoring options. He can score when he wants to and
Speaker 2: needs to, but it's not his first choice. It's fun
Speaker 2: to watch.
Speaker 1: As for Kansas shooting the ball, Dewan did make a
Speaker 1: couple of threes, but everybody else struggled. Do you take
Speaker 1: out Harris and they were barely twenty percent as a
Speaker 1: team as a roster six of twenty five. That's twenty
Speaker 1: four percent against this UNC Wilmington defense. This is a
Speaker 1: team that had played in entirely exclusively track meets through
Speaker 1: this point in the year too, they were averaging like
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen points or something like that, mainly
Speaker 1: because they hung one forty on some crappy mount all
Speaker 1: of Naia School. But still it was Kansas scored like
Speaker 1: twenty two points in the first eight minutes, and we
Speaker 1: were expecting a full on track meet. Really never hit
Speaker 1: that point. I think they started one for nine and
Speaker 1: finished six of twenty five from three against the UNC
Speaker 1: Wilmington defense. In five games this year, now Kansas is
Speaker 1: outside the top two hundred and thirty threes are in
Speaker 1: threes per game, so they're in the bottom third nationally
Speaker 1: thirty four percent as a team. Last year, that was
Speaker 1: undoubtedly the straw that broke the camel's back. That was
Speaker 1: just when it became clear that this team couldn't shoot well.
Speaker 1: The riding was on the wall, that they were going
Speaker 1: to lose by a lot in their season inning loss,
Speaker 1: which they did. Five games. Haven't been as good as
Speaker 1: we thought they would be, especially considering how Zeke Mayo
Speaker 1: start of the year. Are you concerned or are we
Speaker 1: just looking at a very small sample size.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both. Actually, I
Speaker 2: mean I wouldn't say concerned, because as far as roster construction,
Speaker 2: this is a team that should an emphasis on should
Speaker 2: be able to shoot the three. I will say it is.
Speaker 2: It is a little surprising to see this slow of
Speaker 2: a start, you know, thirty four percent as a team
Speaker 2: and being outside the top two hundred three. That's not ideal.
Speaker 2: I do think it'll rebound a little bit. Zeke Meo
Speaker 2: is going through a shooting slump right now. Dwan Harris
Speaker 2: has not made a lot of three pointers. He's not
Speaker 2: gonna shoot an granted, but he also has not made
Speaker 2: money up to this point. I think it'll I think
Speaker 2: it'll even out over the course of the season. It's
Speaker 2: kind of the highs and the lows of college basketball.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably it. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: see them at some point. You're gonna need to see
Speaker 1: them put it together. You know, they play a Duke
Speaker 1: team that I don't think they're going to have a
Speaker 1: ton of success with that. They try to make it
Speaker 1: a half court game. Duke's athleticism and ability to drain
Speaker 1: the shot clock and use their athletes to have their way.
Speaker 1: They have more size. I don't think that's Kansas's game.
Speaker 1: I think Kansas is be game against the Blue Devils.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the preview later. Is to play fast.
Speaker 1: It's to up their transition game. Zeke Mayo is a
Speaker 1: perfect catalyst for this. There were several occasions where we
Speaker 1: saw him sprint right to the three point line with
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and pull up and shoot
Speaker 1: NBA style with twenty seconds up in the shot clog.
Speaker 1: That was awesome to see. I want to see a
Speaker 1: lot more of that. He hasn't shot the ball as
Speaker 1: well in the last couple of weeks as he did
Speaker 1: the first week of the season, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that I think that they should do any of the
Speaker 1: shooting or any less shooting than they're doing. Keep firing
Speaker 1: the ball. You have guys on this roster that have
Speaker 1: a proven track record. Let it fly and results will
Speaker 1: follow until they don't. That's what I'm willing to say.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give him through Christmas. If they're still
Speaker 1: shooting thirty four percent through Christmas, we might have a problem.
Speaker 2: I agree. I also think you know, you think back
Speaker 2: to last year. Nick Timberlake obviously had a lot of
Speaker 2: success shooting the basketball at his prior school. But you
Speaker 2: look at it on a different level. He was there
Speaker 2: was a lot of pressure on him to be the
Speaker 2: guy to make all the three pointers. He was the shooter.
Speaker 2: This year, they don't really have that. There's so many
Speaker 2: different players that can threes. I think overall, it's it's
Speaker 2: a really small sample size. They will start a hit shots,
Speaker 2: hopefully against Duke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they need to against Duke because that's their
Speaker 1: toughest opponent of the non conference slate. I think I
Speaker 1: think that is the clearly Kansas's strongest opponent of any
Speaker 1: of the teams that they're gonna play in the non con.
Speaker 2: Are the du Blue Devils.
Speaker 1: They are extremely talented and they have a ton of strengths.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what Kansas does there.
Speaker 1: They're gonna play well against against Duke. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: through this guy. Hunter. Dickinson had fifteen and fifteen in
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, match his points with his rebounds. He was
Speaker 1: seven for eleven from the floor. Predictably, the Seahawks very
Speaker 1: unique name by the way, I think they're the only
Speaker 1: Seahawks in D one. They had no match for Dickinson.
Speaker 1: We figured that would happen. We thought we'd see a
Speaker 1: lot of flory, but doom got We really didn't. We
Speaker 1: had three quick dunks in eight minutes before rolling his
Speaker 1: ankle and exiting in the first half. It looked significantly worse.
Speaker 1: From our seats. It looked like a non contact knee
Speaker 1: injury when it kind of bends the wrong way, and
Speaker 1: it turns out after seeing the replay, he just kind
Speaker 1: of rolled the awkwardly.
Speaker 2: That makes me cringe so hard whenever I see it, right,
Speaker 2: I cannot stand those injuries. I even if it's just
Speaker 2: a tweak, it is so disgusting. It's such a visceral
Speaker 2: reaction that I get to it.
Speaker 1: It looked horrible well, and then there's also the point
Speaker 1: where these athletes just bounce right back like it's nothing
Speaker 1: like in the Chiefs Panthers game this afternoon, this defensive
Speaker 1: lineman for Carolina clearly broke his hand or severely hurt
Speaker 1: his wrist or something, and he's like holding it in agony,
Speaker 1: and then they take him in the sideline. He's there
Speaker 1: for like two plays as they're putting pins in it
Speaker 1: and wrapping it up, and he's right back on the
Speaker 1: field like the John Madden tough act and nat Field.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I don't know how these athletes. Then you
Speaker 1: just see Flory like an hour later smiling like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm good to go. Sel said that he could have returned,
Speaker 1: he ultimately did not. They get a week off between games,
Speaker 1: and cel said he will not have any restrictions against
Speaker 1: the Blue Devils. I think he is a very Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's a very important player in this duke game.
Speaker 1: They're gonna need some athleticism to match dukes, especially in
Speaker 1: the front court. So really, not a whole lot to
Speaker 1: say about these two guys. They both did. Dickinson was
Speaker 1: really good, made his impact whenever he wasn't scoring a
Speaker 1: whole lot early on. Still so good that he pads
Speaker 1: finds a way to pat his numbers and Bajunga avoiding injury.
Speaker 1: That's all you needed to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunter Dickinson good. But Douga also will be good.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he'll play more. Another player that we'll talk about
Speaker 2: a little bit. David Quoit actually finishes Kansas's second leading score,
Speaker 2: putting up his best game of the young season with
Speaker 2: thirteen points on four out of seven shooting and cleans
Speaker 2: two of four from three, he played twenty minutes. Realistically,
Speaker 2: what do you think his role will be going forward?
Speaker 1: Well, let's look at their rotation. We've done this a
Speaker 1: couple of times. It feels like we do this a
Speaker 1: lot of early season shows in these recaps where there's
Speaker 1: not a lot to discuss with the actual game. You
Speaker 1: got two bigs, you got Mayo, Griffin, you got the one,
Speaker 1: you got kJ Those guys are your front six. They're
Speaker 1: gonna play a lot you have off the bench. So
Speaker 1: the first two guards cards are David Koit and you
Speaker 1: have who am I missing? Who's the oh? Aj Store?
Speaker 1: Those are your eight. You got eight guys that are
Speaker 1: very very very much anchored into this rotation. I think
Speaker 1: Cooit is eight out of eight as of right now.
Speaker 1: But still he's he's got the experience, he's a good
Speaker 1: enough shooter, he's a good enough point guard. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get minutes after that it gets interesting. But this is
Speaker 1: less about the rotation and more about quit specifically. I
Speaker 1: don't think Koit's gonna play more than what Harris, Mayo Griffin,
Speaker 1: and maybe Store. So he's probably fifth of your backcourt guys,
Speaker 1: maybe he's sixth.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be like fifteen ish minutes per game,
Speaker 2: is my guess.
Speaker 1: And I think that's that feels like a fine role, right,
Speaker 1: Like you can put him out there, and in this
Speaker 1: game he got twenty minutes. He played more because the
Speaker 1: ball was going through the basket. He's gonna have games
Speaker 1: wherever the shots not falling. Not Charlie Moore wasn't nearly as.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, say a flaming hot take, David Quoit,
Speaker 2: is what Charlie Moore was supposed to be. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a good better team.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a good take. He is. He is Charlie
Speaker 1: Moore coming to fruition, uh and on a much better team. Yes,
Speaker 1: that helps, like and Charlie Moore's role on that team
Speaker 1: was gonna be one of the two or three most
Speaker 1: important three point shooters, which makes crazy, yeah, because look
Speaker 1: how that ended saying out he was I remember, do
Speaker 1: you remember? I remember Charlie Moore making six threes against
Speaker 1: South Dakota right before Christmas that year.
Speaker 2: The fact you can pull that off the top of
Speaker 2: your mind is so crazy. I don't remember that, actually.
Speaker 1: No, I remember that vividly, and I'm looking at his
Speaker 1: stats that year. He made He shot twenty six percent
Speaker 1: on threes at Kansas and.
Speaker 2: He only made twenty.
Speaker 1: He only made twenty and six of them were in
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for context, what was Timberlake last year? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think Timberlake made thirty two of one hundred or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: So that is very comically bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to do, especially when you're brought in,
Speaker 1: as you said, to be one of the iconic sharpshooters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no Quoite is a is going to be leaned on
Speaker 1: to when injuries mount or a first half in Morgantown
Speaker 1: is going poor and you need to turn to a
Speaker 1: guy off the bench that can go in and score.
Speaker 1: I'll always remember Sphe, m kay. Look, in his sophomore year,
Speaker 1: there was a game they played at k State. Kansas
Speaker 1: was that was their number one overall seed team that
Speaker 1: eventually lost to Villanova. Kansas State wasn't good. They didn't
Speaker 1: make the NCAA tournament, but Kansas was struggling out there
Speaker 1: and self kept trying guys off the bench. He turned
Speaker 1: his Spema Kylok, who was at that point just a
Speaker 1: sophomore and like his eighth or ninth option, and Sphee
Speaker 1: made three threes in the first half out there, and
Speaker 1: you after the game, you go, oh, they probably lose
Speaker 1: that game if they don't have that depth. Throw Spee
Speaker 1: out there. I think you're gonna see Quite in a
Speaker 1: similar type role. He's gonna play more than that. But
Speaker 1: you have to make sure that you have guys that
Speaker 1: you can go on off the bench. If Store isn't
Speaker 1: scoring like you think he should, if Ryland Griffin gets
Speaker 1: two early fouls, if the one Harris's floater isn't going,
Speaker 1: you gotta have someone on that bench that can go
Speaker 1: in there and you can rely on them to score.
Speaker 1: We're inside and out. I think Quit is one of
Speaker 1: their best, most reliable, true off the bench scorers that
Speaker 1: they've had in quite some time. He would have been
Speaker 1: a pivotal piece last year.
Speaker 2: Completely agree. Also, the thing that I love about David
Speaker 2: Coit is his attitude. He looks like he wants the
Speaker 2: ball when he's out there, but he's also capable of
Speaker 2: actually making shots. Unlike Charlie Morrison. When he gets the ball,
Speaker 2: you're not terrified about him launching it from the volleyball line.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, really fun to watch. I will be
Speaker 2: curious to see how that shapes up in the rest
Speaker 2: of the season minutes wise. As we know, Bill self
Speaker 2: typically runs eight top players right eight Max. He's definitely
Speaker 2: in that spot right now, and then after that we're
Speaker 2: looking at our our buddy, Zach Clements.
Speaker 1: So yeah, because we just named the eight and then nine, ten,
Speaker 1: and eleven in some order, our rakis Passmore, Shack Moore,
Speaker 1: and Zach Clemens. We don't think we're gonna see Clemens much.
Speaker 1: We don't think we're probably gonna see pass More very
Speaker 1: much either. I think that I think that Shack Moore,
Speaker 1: that's the wild card. It would it stun you if
Speaker 1: Shackmore played more than Quoite this year? Stunned Probably not,
Speaker 1: But you're not expecting more is not? Okay?
Speaker 2: Then in that case, it's hard to see shack More
Speaker 2: getting higher than ninth in the rotation, which kind of
Speaker 2: sucks for him because I mean he transferred in. He
Speaker 2: he is a senior, correct, so I mean he's probably
Speaker 2: not going to play a ton anyway. That does kind
Speaker 2: of suck for his end. But no, I don't expect
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 1: That grad transfer too. Is yeah, your senior and he
Speaker 1: transferred in before quit did quite You mentioned his attitude.
Speaker 1: He played two years at Northern Illinois and they were
Speaker 1: a horrendous team for the last year. Yeah, they were horrible.
Speaker 1: They We watched them lose at allen Field House only
Speaker 1: by eight. In the game that Landa Nick and I,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you listen to that show. Landa Nick and
Speaker 1: I were banging the drum going, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's totally fine. They were just looking ahead to the
Speaker 1: next up.
Speaker 2: Was completely normal that they won by like four points.
Speaker 1: It was not the narrator says it was. It was
Speaker 1: much so not so. Yes, I'm good. Is he quite
Speaker 1: playing here? He has a valuable role. Whenever you have
Speaker 1: a guy with experience, a guy who can shoot, and
Speaker 1: a guy who can score, all in the same package.
Speaker 1: I don't care how tall they are, I don't care
Speaker 1: who the opponent is. That's a guy that has value
Speaker 1: on your roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. It's fun to have players that can
Speaker 2: can contribute from the portal.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the other guards. All of these guys
Speaker 1: I believe are from the portal.
Speaker 2: They are from the portal. I was a portal goer.
Speaker 2: By the way, I was one of the first portal
Speaker 2: goers in college golf. Fun facts not highly sought after
Speaker 2: by Kansas, just throwing that out there. Ryland Griffin made
Speaker 2: an early three, but had just seven points in twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: He was frequently bench in the first half, so we
Speaker 2: could watch the offense role through our buddy Kjadams car
Speaker 2: crash Dot Jiff aj Store had seven points in twenty
Speaker 2: three minutes, but he was just one for five on
Speaker 2: shooting threes. Zeke Mayo had ten points on five out
Speaker 2: of ten shooting in twenty five minutes, but he missed
Speaker 2: all four of his threes. Rip to anyone that had
Speaker 2: him in the same game in Parlay, namely myself Zig
Speaker 2: allegedly always. Zeke Mayo has started to season eight for
Speaker 2: thirteen through halftime of Game two, shooting threes. Since then,
Speaker 2: in the three and a half basketball games that he's played,
Speaker 2: he's won for six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big problem. That's the second half of
Speaker 1: North Carolina Michigan State and then the last two home
Speaker 1: gimmes just and honestly, not a lot of them, not close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks really rush and look, he's gonna ultimately be fine.
Speaker 1: We know that he'll settle. And this is a guy
Speaker 1: with an enormous volume in his career a big sample size.
Speaker 1: We see the stroke in the first couple of games.
Speaker 1: He will ultimately be fine, and we've seen him contribute
Speaker 1: despite the three point shooting, the three point shot not falling.
Speaker 1: We saw him still have a game where he had
Speaker 1: ten rebounds and seven assists. Whenever he only made one
Speaker 1: three in this game, he still manages to get ten
Speaker 1: points and make four of his five twos whenever he's
Speaker 1: not shooting the ball well from the outside. He's a
Speaker 1: good defender. This is a guy I was kind of
Speaker 1: concerned about. My impression of him in the Arkansas exhibition
Speaker 1: was it looked like this game was really fast. He'd
Speaker 1: played at South Dakota State, and Arkansas's athletes looked like
Speaker 1: they kind of overwhelmed him a little bit. I no
Speaker 1: longer feel that way at all. I think he looks
Speaker 1: comfortable out there. It's just a matter of the show falling.
Speaker 1: And of all the guys here at we have some
Speaker 1: questions about Store, obviously have some questions about kJ. I
Speaker 1: don't think we have a lot of questions about Griffin,
Speaker 1: But of all these guys, I think I have the
Speaker 1: fewest questions about Mayo. I think he is he is one.
Speaker 1: He's probably their third best player after Dickinson and Harris.
Speaker 2: I would say, I agree. I think he has so
Speaker 2: many more ways of impacting the game than just shooting
Speaker 2: the basketball. It's kind of a nice compliment to Dwan
Speaker 2: Harris really because Zekemo can. He can create his own job.
Speaker 2: But he's so good in transition, and yeah, his SHOT's
Speaker 2: gonna fall. He's not gonna continue the slump of one
Speaker 2: for sixteen. It wouldn't surprise me if he goes out
Speaker 2: there and makes three threes against Duke. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: too good of a player to continue that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree, Like that's that's exactly the way
Speaker 1: I feel. If not gonna be he's if they beat Duke,
Speaker 1: or if I mean just period against Duke, you figure
Speaker 1: he's going to be one of the key contributors on
Speaker 1: both ends of the floor because Duke's gonna throw a
Speaker 1: lot of talent at you, so you better be ready
Speaker 1: to defend. And he better have made some progress in
Speaker 1: that sense since the Arkansas game a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But yeah, not concerned about Mayo at all.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Here's here's a take that we're only going to talk
Speaker 1: about whenever you. Uh, whenever we're recapping this boring basketball game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: So they played this song, they played this song at
Speaker 1: Allen Field House, and of course, yeah, it's it's a classic.
Speaker 1: And then all of the uh, they showed a bunch
Speaker 1: of KU students doing the trump ants on the on
Speaker 1: the big screen. Uh, you're a very common rational thought.
Speaker 1: What's that I'm being told we absolutely will not talk
Speaker 1: about this on the.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna interject here and I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say anything too crazy. What I will say,
Speaker 2: And let's let's bring up some history here. So if
Speaker 2: kJ Adams were the shooter, Uh, Abraham Lincoln would be
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five years old today.
Speaker 1: So we're just skipping, skipping right over the trump dance,
Speaker 1: which is probably for the best saying something less controversial,
Speaker 1: like the assassination of the Yeah, Abraham Lincoln, he.
Speaker 2: Should have been standing there, he had a he had
Speaker 2: a booth seat at play. I don't know what he
Speaker 2: was thinking.
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, I mean, I guess we just
Speaker 1: better talk about kJ, who you've dubbed a future YMCA Hey,
Speaker 1: YMCA All Star and Mensley Now three points five rebounds
Speaker 1: and five assists at twenty nine minutes. There was some
Speaker 1: good in the second half. He played better, such as
Speaker 1: his passing ability, his defensive presence. The intensity was up there,
Speaker 1: but K you played at their best. I think when
Speaker 1: he was on the bench. They played the four guard
Speaker 1: lineup to open that second half quite a bit and
Speaker 1: the offense took off. The reaction on Twitter is that
Speaker 1: kJ is the weak link in the starting five, based
Speaker 1: off of the ku accounts I follow on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a take you disagree with.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with it. I think it does suck though,
Speaker 2: because I actually I really like kJ, and we've said
Speaker 2: this before. I think he's an awesome dude, and he's
Speaker 2: a really really good basketball player, but his game does
Speaker 2: not fit with many lineups on this team. The three
Speaker 2: or four minutes when the four guard lineup came in,
Speaker 2: this facing was so much better. The ball movement was better.
Speaker 2: It doesn't take a trained eye to see that. And
Speaker 2: I think Bill self ultimately knows that. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: not a dummy, he's all Hall of Fame coach, two
Speaker 2: national titles. He knows. But it's tough. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's something I think everyone kind of sees. And I
Speaker 2: also I think there will be some games where kJ
Speaker 2: Adams will actually help Kansas win with some you know,
Speaker 2: outside of the box score plays. But yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: definitely something that people are taking notice of.
Speaker 1: It's such a matchup game with kJ because there are
Speaker 1: games where he looks great and then there are other
Speaker 1: games wherever he clearly is the week link out there.
Speaker 1: And my hot take on this, and this may be
Speaker 1: proven to be laughably incorrect, I think Bill self knows
Speaker 1: kJ is the week link in the starting five, and
Speaker 1: I think Bill self knows that eventually kJ will not
Speaker 1: be in the starting five. I no, no, I think
Speaker 1: you think there's a point this year where kJ is
Speaker 1: no longer starting.
Speaker 2: Well, you say, and one of the craziest things that's
Speaker 2: been said on this podcast, which there's been a lot,
Speaker 2: you said Will Smith had to shoot his dog, you know,
Speaker 2: at one point, which made me cry with laughter. No,
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same concept. I think he knows
Speaker 2: it's Bill Self, he knows what he's doing. But it's
Speaker 2: it's tough because you have a guy who's been in
Speaker 2: the program for now what four and a half five years.
Speaker 2: He's a really good dude. He is a good player,
Speaker 2: but he is a definition of It's like when you
Speaker 2: get to the NCAA tournament and it's all about matchups.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to see this team lose an
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament game because kJ is playing over I don't
Speaker 2: know Ryland Griffin, aj Store, whoever, Flory. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I think. I think that will happen at some point
Speaker 2: with him going out of the starting lineup.
Speaker 1: Though well it's not even it's it's Thanksgiving week. They've played,
Speaker 1: They're getting ready to play their sixth game, and kJ
Speaker 1: still doesn't have as many rebounds as his jersey number.
Speaker 1: And he's he's a power forward position on this team.
Speaker 1: I know he's not a true four, but that's what
Speaker 1: they're asking him to play.
Speaker 2: And in his defense, though I will say this in
Speaker 2: his defense, I don't think it really matters who starts
Speaker 2: on this team.
Speaker 1: That is true. Like in this game, what, let me
Speaker 1: pull up the box score? In this game, Quite plays
Speaker 1: twenty minutes off the bench. Dickinson plays twenty five minutes
Speaker 1: as a starter. Like, I mean, are we really that that?
Speaker 1: Like is does? Is it really that big of a,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I think it's just its minutes distribution. And then you
Speaker 2: think of like late game scenarios in the second half
Speaker 2: when teams tend to go on runs. That's where I'm
Speaker 2: I don't know. I get a little bit leary about
Speaker 2: kJ playing a ton of minutes, but again, I just
Speaker 2: I have to think Bill self knows that, but it's
Speaker 2: got to be such a hard call for him.
Speaker 1: And Dickinson played thirty, not twenty five. But Zeke Mayo
Speaker 1: plays twenty five as a starter. AJ Store plays twenty
Speaker 1: three off the bench, Ryland Griffin plays twenty as a starter,
Speaker 1: David Quite plays twenty off the bench. So like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, there's a lot of mix and matching
Speaker 1: at this point. They're all gonna get valuable minutes. But
Speaker 1: I and I don't care as much if kJ starts
Speaker 1: or doesn't as much as I care that Bill self
Speaker 1: recognizes when kJ at the four is getting you burned.
Speaker 1: And I don't like the matchup at all against Duke
Speaker 1: who starts Cooper Flag at the four. So I mean,
Speaker 1: kJ isn't better at anything basketball related than Cooper Flag.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I'm not sure if anyone is yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not his fault. But you know, you're like the
Speaker 1: the two big lineup maybe maybe really really helpful against
Speaker 1: Duke and you. I hope that Bill self isn't stubborn
Speaker 1: to kJ to a point where we've seen him be
Speaker 1: stubborn to other veterans. I predict he won't be, just
Speaker 1: because the deficiencies with kJ are pretty glaring. But as
Speaker 1: you said, he's a great guy and he does good things.
Speaker 1: He has value on this team. I'm just not sure
Speaker 1: if starting over the four guard lineup, if that really
Speaker 1: is your answer, you want to tell me about these
Speaker 1: other notes? Here, your buddy, that's my body persuasion.
Speaker 2: The Caucasian persuasion. Zach Clements. He did have a bucket,
Speaker 2: which brings his season points total up to I believe
Speaker 2: check notes two points in three minutes, Ricky's passed. Moore
Speaker 2: and Shack Moore both had two points and six minutes
Speaker 2: the walk Ons didn't get a chance to see to
Speaker 2: get on the floor. In other news, the prop bet
Speaker 2: for walk on points is cooked with a capitol cooked.
Speaker 1: Also, Zach Clements has seven points. You're forgetting about the
Speaker 1: five he scored against Howard.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Howard doesn't exist. We can't do what's been
Speaker 2: done or whatever.
Speaker 1: If you if you, if you don't out the Howard game,
Speaker 1: then yes, these were his first two points of the year.
Speaker 1: That was a set.
Speaker 2: I just forget. I completely forget that he scored. I
Speaker 2: forget that he's even played meaningful minutes. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I wonder why what makes people wear T shirts under
Speaker 1: their jerseys, Like that's something that Zach Clements has started doing.
Speaker 1: I think white.
Speaker 2: Shirt man, that's so I you know, back in my day,
Speaker 2: my day when I played in middle school basketball and
Speaker 2: the junior varsity basketball in high school before I gave
Speaker 2: it up, I wore a long undersleeve shirt because I
Speaker 2: felt I felt weird about you know, the armpit, you know,
Speaker 2: that area being exposed. It was a weird even like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 1: Some people do like I wondered if that was left
Speaker 1: the answer. Yeah, that I wondered if that was legitimately
Speaker 1: why some people wear T shirts. I would think a
Speaker 1: cotton T shirt on a basketball floor feels like a hot,
Speaker 1: sweaty mess. Not me, of course, I'm going going on
Speaker 1: four weeks now with no deodorant. But it's so noisy
Speaker 1: for normal humans. Yeah, And I'm sitting here. It's cold
Speaker 1: in Kansas right now, and I got space here and
Speaker 1: everything blastings.
Speaker 2: And in your defense, you could go to sleep with
Speaker 2: fourteen dogs, two cats, a space heater, and a heated
Speaker 2: blanket in Kansas and you probably wake up being cold.
Speaker 1: Yes, the state of Kansas is about to get really cold.
Speaker 1: Everybody's going to eat Thanksgiving turkey, the worst of the
Speaker 1: major holidays, and they're about to have the wow weather downturn. Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that a hot take? Is that is that correct?
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a hot take all. But
Speaker 2: I've never heard someone say that.
Speaker 1: Okay, rank your favorite five holidays.
Speaker 2: Number one, Christmas number two. I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: It's close. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Halloween, but
Speaker 2: it's probably fourth of July, just because of the season.
Speaker 2: But I'll say Halloween number three, fourth of July. For Easter,
Speaker 2: it's early spring, Masters Sunday number five, it is probably Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: And then if we want to add another one, I'll
Speaker 2: say Indigenous People's Day just to make our listeners happy.
Speaker 1: You know, hey, that that's got to make somebody happy,
Speaker 1: especially the ones that are piss at the k students
Speaker 1: did the Trump dance. I have so many buttons I
Speaker 1: want to push, but I just will not push anything.
Speaker 1: Good behaved boy. Okay, Christmas is one, Christmas Eve is two.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do that, but I will.
Speaker 2: I forgot to have twenty four trees.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's correct. Are you ready for this? Start? Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day is three.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's not even a real holiday, dude.
Speaker 1: It's no more of a real holiday than then Halloween.
Speaker 1: Is right, and I like that.
Speaker 2: You're right though I don't like that, but you are right.
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day if you do it correctly, which is go
Speaker 1: out and try nice restaurants, wear red clothes, usually right
Speaker 1: around the time the Cheeks win the Super Bowl. It's
Speaker 1: a It's an opportunity to show somebody who you care about.
Speaker 1: And even if you don't, you can still go out
Speaker 1: and have a nice meal. Food makes the world go around.
Speaker 1: In Valentine's Day runs all sorts of good specials. Number four.
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve really fun holiday. I don't drink, but
Speaker 1: board games and there's usually crazy good football on, whether
Speaker 1: it's the college football playoff or college basketball. Okay, you
Speaker 1: plays on New Year's Eve this year, and so those
Speaker 1: are the four that really matter. I'll say Halloween is five.
Speaker 1: I can move out those three four or five are interchangeable.
Speaker 2: Halloweeny. I don't do anything for Halloween. It's just nostalgia.
Speaker 2: That's That's all correct thing that I say about it.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not big party throwers or anything either, but
Speaker 1: or the neighborhood's a circle. So handing out candy's nice.
Speaker 1: And you know, you got to see what all the
Speaker 1: kids up are dressed up as something. There's always what
Speaker 1: amazes me every year is how there's still four or
Speaker 1: five year old kids dressed as Mario and Luigi like
Speaker 1: that game will now survive free generations of fans at
Speaker 1: this point. But yeah, that's always fun. And I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of uh as far as the other so,
Speaker 1: so Thanksgiving. The most second to Mount Rushmore, second to
Speaker 1: only Mount Rushmore as the worst major most overrated landmark
Speaker 1: in the United States is Plymouth Rock in Massachusetts, which
Speaker 1: a lot of I have not been. I've seen pictures
Speaker 1: and I refuse to go. It's just a freaking rock.
Speaker 1: It's a It's not even that big either. It's it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's like the size of of a of
Speaker 1: a of a corner COPI at your Thanksgiving table. Yeah, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the Hungry Games intelligence. Well, I'll throw it out
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. It's not a big rock. It's just oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's a rock. That's where a bunch of smelly people
Speaker 1: landed on a boat after say only the ocean and
Speaker 1: fooling around with all of their many cousins the whole
Speaker 1: summer that year. It's really not that much of a landmark. Yeah, ironically,
Speaker 1: they're very close to West Virginia.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just go on on out of a limb
Speaker 2: here and say, inside the paint conspiracy, that's not the
Speaker 2: actual rock that was touched when they landed on shore.
Speaker 2: I know that rock is probably lodged somewhere else.
Speaker 1: It's probably way way under the rising sea levels at
Speaker 1: this Yeah. Nah, see what I did there. Now the
Speaker 1: Trump MCA people and the Elizabeth Warren people, now they
Speaker 1: are really confused.
Speaker 2: Get all sights here outside the paint. Oh no, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't hold any favorites and we don't have any
Speaker 1: least favorites at the same time. But yeah, Thanksgiving foods. Okay,
Speaker 1: Ham's better than turkey, so the Christmas meal is better.
Speaker 1: The football games always suck. Oh my god, this year
Speaker 1: it's the Giants and the sam Cowboys. Seriously, why you're
Speaker 1: a Lions fan? You don't even want to watch the
Speaker 1: Bears play the Lions on things?
Speaker 2: I think, you know what, hot take. I think that
Speaker 2: game is going to be somewhat close.
Speaker 1: Chicago gave it everything they had today and overtime. The Lions.
Speaker 1: I've just been stepping on people recently, so eventually.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be semi closed for a bit.
Speaker 1: The Lions. Also, I feel like I'm twenty nine. I've
Speaker 1: watched the Lions play twenty some odd games on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I cannot remember three wins.
Speaker 2: I they lost last year, I remember that by a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lose every year. I remember Peyton Manning throwing
Speaker 1: six touchdowns on them once. I remember Aaron Rodgers lighting
Speaker 1: them up every like four years. It's never good like
Speaker 1: now and now Detroit is good.
Speaker 2: They should win. I mean the Bear suck, but they
Speaker 2: I mean it's a short week, they're hurt, they're kind
Speaker 2: of banged up on defense. For the line, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it might be closer than it
Speaker 2: should be. They should win it.
Speaker 1: It better be because Danny DeVito and Cooper Rush is
Speaker 1: your is your afternoon game. So whenever you are done
Speaker 1: with the mediocre Turkey and your uncle and your grandpa
Speaker 1: are starting to talk about how vote fraud really was
Speaker 1: as much of a factor this time, then you can
Speaker 1: turn up and listen to whoever Tom Brady talk about
Speaker 1: the Giants going for their fourth field goal try of
Speaker 1: the game. It's just totally not what I want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Danny DeVito has a quarterbacker in twelve by
Speaker 2: the second quarter.
Speaker 1: I read that they fired their coach. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's not not so that maybe that's is that okay,
Speaker 1: you you read the rest of the stats. I'm not
Speaker 1: out of it. Why would you fire your coach when
Speaker 1: you play in three days? Like, there's no way that's.
Speaker 2: I think it's just there's their way of saying something's wrong.
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is. We'll try this and
Speaker 2: by the way, we'll go back to Kansas here. Allen
Speaker 2: field House Ryan was in attendance for this game. Curious
Speaker 2: how his experience was. He does claim the renovations are
Speaker 2: fine but he also was curious how that was worth
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars. I kind of concur.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so I'm trying. There are some blue check
Speaker 1: marks that I've said that the head coach in New
Speaker 1: York kind of gm have been fired. Whatever. If he's
Speaker 1: not now it will be. As for the allen Field
Speaker 1: House renovations, they have made the concourses much darker with
Speaker 1: blue and red paint, and the court itself is so
Speaker 1: much brighter. It kind of looks like an octagon now.
Speaker 1: It looks like a WWE fight where they have all
Speaker 1: these lights on the underside of the scoreboard that light
Speaker 1: up the court and the rest of the crowd is dark.
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. Lots of places to buy food.
Speaker 1: There are ice cream places.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't have any food because it was
Speaker 1: at seven o'clock so we had just eaten dinner or whatnot.
Speaker 1: And that you get there and they're kind of like
Speaker 1: a lot of airport concession stands now where there isn't
Speaker 1: somebody working, Like you just go up water and then
Speaker 1: you go to the kiosk and type in what you bought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I'm surprised that however much theft
Speaker 1: you see, what, however much theft that they lose, it
Speaker 1: must be less than paying people to run those stalls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, kidding, I don't understand how that works. I
Speaker 2: did that the air in Albuquerque about a month ago,
Speaker 2: and I felt I felt sketchy, like I made it
Speaker 2: so obvious that I was putting my item under the scanner,
Speaker 2: Like I'm basically waving at people like, hey, I'm paying
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you don't get disapproving looks for no,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking the three dollars bag of Mike and
Speaker 1: Dikes or box of mic and Dikes or whatever. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: like they were okay, I it's it's it's it's more
Speaker 1: of an event than it used to be. You know.
Speaker 1: It used to just feel like a big gym, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people liked that. Uh it
Speaker 1: felt like a big high school gym. Now there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of crowd noise. It's just more like pumped
Speaker 1: in techno music to boost the numbers. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to say back in my day it was better,
Speaker 1: but they're definitely trying to make it appealing to the recruits,
Speaker 1: to the younger folk. Uh, and it's the end result.
Speaker 1: I think. Also, the TVs in the corner are utterly worthless.
Speaker 1: I don't understand those.
Speaker 2: I don't get that either.
Speaker 1: There's not a single seat in that place where the
Speaker 1: ideal hitch point to check the score or stats is
Speaker 1: to look at one of those instead of the center
Speaker 1: court scoreboard, like everybody's cranking their neck sideways to see
Speaker 1: the same information that's there. I think they did it
Speaker 1: so they can just have two screens to advertise on
Speaker 1: the whole game.
Speaker 2: You're probably right with that. I mean, I've sat basically
Speaker 2: in the rafters at Allen Field House, and even then
Speaker 2: I thought it was fine. I never had an issue
Speaker 2: looking seen action on the corner, but too looking at
Speaker 2: the stats. I mean, it's that is a crazy waste
Speaker 2: of money. I don't know why they did that.
Speaker 1: The new video board and center court's good. And the
Speaker 1: other thing is they you can definitely tell they took
Speaker 1: out a lot of seats, like those corners have really
Speaker 1: been filled in, some for giant TVs and some they
Speaker 1: increased handicap accessibility areas. They added a lot of media
Speaker 1: seats in the in the southwest corner that it just
Speaker 1: looked like bleachers up there with places to put their computers.
Speaker 1: You can tell they took a lot of seats out
Speaker 1: of there. Didn't notice a big difference in the noise.
Speaker 1: But you know, if I was one of the people
Speaker 1: that lost my season ticket, I would have been very angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine that. And I also think it's
Speaker 2: top I mean, they had they had a hard task
Speaker 2: of maintaining, you know, the prestige of Allenfield House, trying
Speaker 2: to make it new and shiny. But I also think
Speaker 2: they could have used some of that money maybe for
Speaker 2: the football team that is five and six also the
Speaker 2: best five and six football team in history.
Speaker 1: Yes, that so the KA football team. All they do
Speaker 1: they keep beating Uh, they keep beating great teams after
Speaker 1: squandering so many early season chances. And you know how
Speaker 1: this ends, right, you know what happened losing Taylor for sure. Yes,
Speaker 1: there has to be a letdown at some point.
Speaker 2: I hope there will be a rare Devin Neil fumble
Speaker 2: in the fourth cow and they will be lose by
Speaker 2: one point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I hope it doesn't happen. Because
Speaker 1: they're now so close you can taste it, but at
Speaker 1: the same time they have. It's definitely one of the biggest,
Speaker 1: probably the biggest what if seasons in Kansas history. Hopefully
Speaker 1: the basketball team will not be like that. Kansas fifty
Speaker 1: five percent from the floor, seventy six percent on twos,
Speaker 1: and twenty four percent on threes. Hell of a range there.
Speaker 1: They made sixty three percent of their free throws plus
Speaker 1: six on the glass and only turned it over ten times,
Speaker 1: so five. Yeah, you're still kind of waiting for that
Speaker 1: big dominant performance. Haven't seen it yet. Great up against Duke. No,
Speaker 1: but like if they beat Duke by a couple of points,
Speaker 1: they'll have three really good quality try the numbers wins
Speaker 1: and not a lot of dominant showings yet.
Speaker 2: Correct. Big shout out to Palm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ken Pom has Duke as like a four point
Speaker 1: favorite in this game against Kansas.
Speaker 2: That's not that crazy in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Actually, I look forward to you throwing a ton of
Speaker 1: money on the Kansas money.
Speaker 2: I probably yeah, yeah, probably, yeah, you know me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well, we'll see how that works. But big
Speaker 1: game coming up. Now, let's talk about some other games,
Speaker 1: big twelve games, and uh, well, there's no l in
Speaker 1: big twelve cam, but there may as well be, because
Speaker 1: there's tons and tons of.
Speaker 2: L's that were If you spell it out with work.
Speaker 1: It's true. That is true. Big twe l l l
Speaker 1: l l VE, I think is how this week went correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, One Big twelve team took their first loss of
Speaker 2: the season this week. Saint Joseph's beat Texas Tech by
Speaker 2: a single point, seventy eight to seventy seven in the
Speaker 2: Legends Classic.
Speaker 1: I think that was a tournament that Kansas was supposed
Speaker 1: to play Virginia in a couple of years ago, but
Speaker 1: it got canceled due to COVID. The cod right. Yes,
Speaker 1: COVID did a lot of bad things, but it also
Speaker 1: did one good thing, and that was making sure that
Speaker 1: we didn't have to watch Tony Bennett play Kansas. Four
Speaker 1: Big twelve teams took their second loss this week. I
Speaker 1: think it's five. Now, Actually I need to go check
Speaker 1: on what happened with k State, but I think it's five.
Speaker 1: Florida I think they did lose. Oh my god, they
Speaker 1: were losing late, so we'll get to them. Florida, Atlantic
Speaker 1: and Nevada both took down Oklahoma State and the Shriners
Speaker 1: Children's Charleston's Classic, which is a real thing.
Speaker 2: Is that a celebrity tournament?
Speaker 1: It feels like it would be more interesting than whatever
Speaker 1: the hell Oklahoma State ve Nevada for fifth place was.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys got fifth in this event after losing twice.
Speaker 1: UCF also lost twice, falling to Wisconsin and then in
Speaker 1: three overtimes the LSU to get third. And another celebrity
Speaker 1: golf tournament, the Greenbrier Top Event. Yeah, this shed's light
Speaker 1: on an important question. Does anybody on Earth care about
Speaker 1: UCF basketball?
Speaker 2: The short answer is no. But the real answer is
Speaker 2: all ten thousand people that stormed the court last year
Speaker 2: when they beat Kansas did care for that one evening, right?
Speaker 1: That is true? It was their first see in the
Speaker 1: history of sports goodness?
Speaker 2: Was that a terrible game? I was in the podcast then.
Speaker 2: I wish I was on the podcast then, because you
Speaker 2: would have had an hour of me screaming into the
Speaker 2: mic about how terrible that team was.
Speaker 1: Didn't they lead that game by like seventeen or something
Speaker 1: like that and wind up losing? Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm also pretty confident that I lost a good amount
Speaker 2: of money on that game because they kept, like the
Speaker 2: money line kept getting closer and closer to plus and
Speaker 2: I eventually just launched on Kansas like plus one oh
Speaker 2: five and they lost.
Speaker 1: And that is the correct call. That was the right call.
Speaker 1: Most of the time they win those games. So if
Speaker 1: you do it twenty times, you're gonna win like thirteen
Speaker 1: or fourteen of them.
Speaker 2: And you see, like, honestly, no one has cared about
Speaker 2: UCF since they've had who's the guy that was like
Speaker 2: ten feet tall Taco Fall? Taco Fall Fall, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's you see if no one has really cared about
Speaker 2: since Taco Fall almost beat Duke in the twenty was
Speaker 2: it twenty twenty nineteen NCAA tournament. I think you know.
Speaker 1: Who ultimately beat Duke in that tournament, don't you, Sir.
Speaker 2: Ah woof another participation trophy for tom Izzo's team making
Speaker 2: the final four and then not winning in title.
Speaker 1: Fun fact, that was Tomzo's only lifetime win against against
Speaker 1: either Roy Williams.
Speaker 2: Or Mike Krzyzewski, which is so crazy.
Speaker 1: That's he's one and twenty two and that was the
Speaker 1: Kansas in that UCF game. By the way, they were
Speaker 1: thirteen and one and they led UCF by sixteen in
Speaker 1: the first half. Thirteen and one and up by sixteen
Speaker 1: and they wound up. Let me see, their final record
Speaker 1: was twenty three and eleven, so they were and they
Speaker 1: were ten and ten the rest of the way after
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: That was that a game where do you remember like
Speaker 2: on the show? Was that a game where you guys
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, I mean it was. It was kind
Speaker 2: of a fluky loss. Everything will be fine.
Speaker 1: And then that show still out there. I know what
Speaker 1: probably happened. Is Landon probably realized oh this sucks, and
Speaker 1: Nick realized, oh this sucks, and I held the right fine.
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, you know what, there's a weird
Speaker 1: one every year. They're gonna kick the hell out of
Speaker 1: West Virginia next week and then we'll feel a lot better.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that game was so much better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did not after they did that.
Speaker 2: So I almost pulled after that game and want to
Speaker 2: drive through a Costco.
Speaker 1: Cam. He sends us a weekly Bob Huggins or Jim
Speaker 1: Beaheim text in the group chat, and it always makes
Speaker 1: me laugh just because those things happened, and poor those.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Grandma got run over by a reindeer slash
Speaker 2: Jim Beaheim, Oh.
Speaker 1: My gosh, I'm not following that one.
Speaker 2: Up you go. Also also losing for the second time
Speaker 2: was number seventeen Arizona Caleb Bluff Sucks, who lost to
Speaker 2: number twelve Duke on their home floor after only scoring
Speaker 2: fifty five points. In a tribute to Bill Self's elite
Speaker 2: eight losses, Number thirteen Baylor got blown up by number
Speaker 2: eleven Tennessee and the fighting Rick Barnes, the greatest regular
Speaker 2: season coach of all time, minus four other coaches. In
Speaker 2: the Bahamas, the Bears were down forty to fourteen. They
Speaker 2: needed lots of garbage time just to get the final
Speaker 2: score to seventy seven to sixty two. In three weeks,
Speaker 2: they've already taken two bowout losses. Are you concerned? I am.
Speaker 1: Not A lot of people are, and I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna pay for it in the rankings. But Baylor has
Speaker 1: scheduled as tough as anybody. They've already played like four
Speaker 1: ranked teams. I think Tennessee, Saint John's, Arkansas and Gonzaga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've already played four really good teams. Scott Drew has
Speaker 1: gone from one of the most laughable schedulers to one
Speaker 1: of the toughest. They might be scheduling too tough at
Speaker 1: this point, and for being honest, they have a young team,
Speaker 1: their best pieces of freshmen. They have a veteran point guard.
Speaker 1: They brought the They brought Jeremy roach Over from Duke.
Speaker 1: He will write that ship. I still think they're the
Speaker 1: second best team in the Big twelve. They're thin, but
Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent. It will eventually get going.
Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely not super comforting if you're a believer.
Speaker 1: And then to see them take just get railed twice
Speaker 1: in the first in the first month of the season.
Speaker 1: Then there's Kansas State, who has had just a terrible
Speaker 1: few weeks. They lost at home to LSU as a
Speaker 1: double digit favorite when the Coleman Hawkins thing happened. Then
Speaker 1: they then they decided, oh, we're gonna make it all better.
Speaker 1: We play Mississippi Valley State, who is, according to Ken Palm,
Speaker 1: the worst team in D one by a lot.
Speaker 2: Great Twitter account, by the way.
Speaker 1: Great Twitter account. This team law by what seventy to Missouri?
Speaker 1: I think it was seventy to Missouri. Kansas State led
Speaker 1: him by two at halftime, they mound up winning by eighteen.
Speaker 1: Then they beat George Washington who is a president not
Speaker 1: a college in the Paradise Jam before losing sixty seven
Speaker 1: sixty five to Liberty in the championship game of that tournament.
Speaker 1: So Kansas State is four and two. I think their
Speaker 1: roster is pretty good, but they have a lot of misfits.
Speaker 1: I think Jerome I think that's their problem. I think
Speaker 1: Jerome Tang is a good coach, but he's got his
Speaker 1: work cutout for him. These are a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: that just kind of look like they're not too interested
Speaker 1: in being a cohesive unit.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I feel like Jerome Tang is
Speaker 2: this team is a victim of the nil era when
Speaker 2: it doesn't pan out, when a roster looks really good
Speaker 2: on paper and then just doesn't gel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug McDaniel is very good. We obviously know that
Speaker 1: Coleman Hawkins is gonna get there. We think David and
Speaker 1: Guison is a good player. This team has some pieces,
Speaker 1: and they have a really favorable schedule coming up. Here's
Speaker 1: Kansas State schedule until Big Twelve play Longwood, Arkansas Pine
Speaker 1: Bluff and the annual Big Twelve Invitational that they play.
Speaker 1: The Challenge Game is at Saint John's they're an underdog
Speaker 1: there Drake at Wichita State, they're favored in four of
Speaker 1: those five games. Then they start Big Twelve play and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of very quality opponents. I still think
Speaker 1: their home court advantage is going to lead to some
Speaker 1: home upsets, but I don't feel great about picking them
Speaker 1: to finish fit in the Big Twelve at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think that might be one of our
Speaker 2: worst takes. Actually, we'll see what happens. Jerome Tang has
Speaker 2: shown tendency to get them going throughout the course of
Speaker 2: the year, but I don't know. Like Coleman Hawkins just
Speaker 2: isn't very good at this point, like a price tag.
Speaker 1: No, they gave him two million dollars and he's averaging
Speaker 1: eight and seven. And he had that whole weird thing
Speaker 1: with LSU where he stormed at the guy like just
Speaker 1: not what you're looking for from a senior leader.
Speaker 2: I saw I saw someone tweet on I can't remember
Speaker 2: who said it, but it was a one of those
Speaker 2: funny like Kansas Burner accounts, and they're like, nobody wants
Speaker 2: to talk about the fact that kJ Adams and Colemanhawkins
Speaker 2: are the same player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little bit they're difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's kind of right in a way
Speaker 2: that I think Coleman Hawkins has them by like five
Speaker 2: inches at the height.
Speaker 1: But overall their liabilities are prominent, and whenever you ask
Speaker 1: to lead a team, you see what's up. Five Big
Speaker 1: twelve teams remain undefeated. We've already lost eleven of them
Speaker 1: through the first three weeks of the year. That is
Speaker 1: Kansas and Iowa State, who are both top five teams, Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: who's a top twenty team, and then out of nowhere
Speaker 1: because they haven't played anybody, Colorado and BYU. You know,
Speaker 1: every time that BYU goes for an extended under start
Speaker 1: a season, things always go really great.
Speaker 2: And any sport right asks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are now quickly on the tailspin. Kansas is
Speaker 1: crushing Big twelve playoff dreams one week at a time.
Speaker 2: Best thing they can do other games.
Speaker 1: Well, one team that is doing all the dream crushing
Speaker 1: themselves is a guy that you're absolutely positively betting on
Speaker 1: to go deep in this year's tournament.
Speaker 2: Shaka Smart, whose hair miraculously regrew. Shout out to Bosley
Speaker 2: Number fifteen Marquette racket up quality wins as they take
Speaker 2: down Number six per Due at home, seventy six to
Speaker 2: fifty eight behind a triple double, seventeen points, thirteen rebounds,
Speaker 2: and tennis sists from Cam Jones. Great name. Are we
Speaker 2: believing in them a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Until March?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. They're they're talented, really good team. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Shaka Spart's gonna shaka what they always do.
Speaker 1: They lose to a team that's a lot worse on
Speaker 1: the seed line than they are.
Speaker 2: Happened except for that one time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh boy, speaking of damnit.
Speaker 2: Damn da da. I cried after that game, I actually cried. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I was in like seventh grade, and my
Speaker 2: dad and I ever were like, this is awesome. You know,
Speaker 2: Kansas cakewalk to the final four. The remaining teams weren't
Speaker 2: that good, and we watched the game and then I
Speaker 2: got tons of text for They're like Shaka smart, Shaka
Speaker 2: flocka flame. Everyone was texting me, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go crawling a hole.
Speaker 1: So Kansas and VCU was my sixteenth birthday, March twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Oh yeah, and that game was our spring
Speaker 1: rec League team's first game, and it was at the
Speaker 1: same time, and I think that that Kansas game started
Speaker 1: like one to twenty and our rec league games started
Speaker 1: at two. So I'm walking in the gym after listening
Speaker 1: to a couple of minutes, just tipped off and Marcus
Speaker 1: Morris scored the first six points of the game, and
Speaker 1: Kansas is up six to nothing, and I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be.
Speaker 2: They're just gonna kill Big Dog.
Speaker 1: Oh great, We're going to the final four after last
Speaker 1: year's disappointment to get in there. We play our rec
Speaker 1: league game and I come out and I get one
Speaker 1: look at my phone at halftime in the rec League
Speaker 1: game and VCU was up thirty seven to seventeen with
Speaker 1: five minutes left in the first half.
Speaker 2: Was that this game? I can't I didn't remember. It
Speaker 2: was that bad.
Speaker 1: It was just a fire bombing. And then Kansas got
Speaker 1: it within two with thirteen minutes left, and everybody thought
Speaker 1: they were gonna end up winning the game, and they
Speaker 1: did not. Instead they got Oh man, that's the worst
Speaker 1: loss of the celf Era. Absolutely, that's the worst loss,
Speaker 1: considering the stakes, the opponent and all of that. And yes,
Speaker 1: then they would have gotten to play eight seed Butler
Speaker 1: and three seed Yukon. They would have been favored by
Speaker 1: eight points in both games. They would have won a Natty.
Speaker 2: Oh Man, so much trauma.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Duke here. Number twelve Blue Devils. They
Speaker 1: handled Arizona and won sixty nine to fifty five. Cooper
Speaker 1: Flag dominated with twenty four points. The Wildcats are now
Speaker 1: just two and two. They've been outplayed by the only
Speaker 1: two quality teams they've played. And then there's Caleb Love,
Speaker 1: who was three for thirteen in this game and two
Speaker 1: for thirteen against Wisconsin. Just a horrendous start for him.
Speaker 1: He's under ten points a game through the first five
Speaker 1: games of his All America season. I think he's flat
Speaker 1: out back. I don't even think he's playing bad. I
Speaker 1: just don't think he's an efficient and efficient player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's for all the longtime it TP listeners.
Speaker 2: He sucks, he sucks, He sucks, he sucks.
Speaker 1: Do I have that one you have somewhere?
Speaker 2: Do I have it?
Speaker 1: I have to though, not that I don't know. But
Speaker 1: you're very very good though, for remembering that one.
Speaker 2: It's funny what I can remember and can't remember. If
Speaker 2: you asked me something that's really important to my life
Speaker 2: and career. I won't be able to tell you on
Speaker 2: the spot, but I can remember it TP drops.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's that accounts for something, or at least it
Speaker 1: will when we hit it big and you get paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money for this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, AD Companies contact us.
Speaker 1: Duke is the best team talent wise in college basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm convinced that doesn't mean it's all gonna gel. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of mouths defeat on that team. They're
Speaker 1: not super deep and so if you know, you take
Speaker 1: an injury or two, and who knows, and then there's
Speaker 1: the whole coach thing. John Shire did a good job
Speaker 1: in this game. I thought that he did a very
Speaker 1: good job with his set. It's late. They were always
Speaker 1: one step ahead of an Arizona team that just may
Speaker 1: be outmatched at this point. But yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: very interesting because Bill self on the sideline with a
Speaker 1: top five, top one team is going to be a
Speaker 1: little bit bigger beast. We'll see how they do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Number eight Alabama bounce back by hanging one hundred
Speaker 2: on number twenty five Illinois and a thirteen point home win.
Speaker 2: Former Jayhawk who never actually played for the Jayhawks, LeBaron
Speaker 2: fillin Ye had sixteen points in nine assists. He has
Speaker 2: been one of the Crimson tides best players thus far.
Speaker 2: Big fan of Nate Oates up here in Michigan.
Speaker 1: I want to say that that's a big loss for Kansas,
Speaker 1: but they have enough guards and I don't know at
Speaker 1: this point how long le Baron Fallon's gonna be at Alabama.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the roster construction for Kansas minus him
Speaker 2: is still really really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they'll be just fine. But it is cool
Speaker 1: to see him succeed. Number eleven Tennessee won the Bahamas
Speaker 1: Championship by blowing out Virginia Yay and number thirteen Baylor
Speaker 1: and can executive days. The Bears also beat number twenty
Speaker 1: two Saint John's on a crew Man in a totally,
Speaker 1: absolutely wild ninety nine to ninety eight double overtime win.
Speaker 1: Brilliant basketball games. Thank you, Scott J.
Speaker 2: Did you hold on? Did you see that? I think
Speaker 2: it was Zoobie edge Off miss the free throw? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: oh man.
Speaker 1: Zoobie tribute to Bill. It was an old friend, Zubie,
Speaker 1: who was actually playing pretty well. Thus far this year,
Speaker 1: He's averaging eleven and six for a ranked Saint John's team.
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, that was not his finest moment and
Speaker 1: uh well it cost this team in a big way.
Speaker 1: The game that was two overtimes, fifty minutes, thirty four fouls.
Speaker 1: The refs did a good job there. That is half
Speaker 1: of the number of sixty seven fouls that were called
Speaker 1: in that Wisconsin Arizona game last week. And no, Cam,
Speaker 1: I don't think I can say that, but I really
Speaker 1: would like to. Sister Sheen is not watching well in
Speaker 1: that case. The real takeaway is that Virginia lost twice
Speaker 1: and they got last in the Bahamas where they belong.
Speaker 1: Cam wants me to say something very not nice.
Speaker 2: So it rhymes with luck and it's.
Speaker 1: About what I think of Virginia. Uh so I'll just
Speaker 1: say this instead of Bill picture Bill is Virginia. Bill
Speaker 1: sucks hate Virginia.
Speaker 2: Replace s with a different letter.
Speaker 1: Right. Oh hey, there you go that that Virginia.
Speaker 2: Screw them hard. Yeah. Uh. The brasketball, The brasketball turned
Speaker 2: some heads by going into Omaha, not a great place,
Speaker 2: been there, upsetting number four, seeing Creighton handling them throughout
Speaker 2: and ultimately winning seventy four to sixty three. Ryan Kalchbrenner
Speaker 2: and another edition of how is he still in college?
Speaker 2: Was held to just four points as the Huskers for
Speaker 2: seventeen turnovers and controlled throughout despite being outscored by twenty
Speaker 2: four points on threes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Creighton lost Stephen Ashworth to a really nasty looking
Speaker 1: leg injury. He's gonna be out a while he was there.
Speaker 1: I believe average sixteen points a game, second to only
Speaker 1: Calburnner in points. So their outlook just went down a lot.
Speaker 1: I think Kansas losing. I don't know. I sixteen points
Speaker 1: a game, guy, and I don't have to I should
Speaker 1: have to make analogies for that. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: points they, I would think now are really looking uphill.
Speaker 1: They played Kansas in Omaha in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna win that game. Now,
Speaker 1: tell me about Omaha. I went there over the summer.
Speaker 1: We took a little trip, Yeah, to the Omaha Council
Speaker 1: Bluffs area. Absolutely a lot of casinos there.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. A lot of casinos. No, it's
Speaker 2: not not what I was there for. My grandparents actually
Speaker 2: lived in Council Bluffs throughout my childhood, so I spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time there in summers. Went to Omaha.
Speaker 2: We went to the famous Omaha Zoo, which has a
Speaker 2: big dome. Yep, big zoo. Big dome has desert area.
Speaker 2: Desert Yeah, yeah, super cool. I actually got into the
Speaker 2: penguin exhibit. That was kind of weird. I don't remember
Speaker 2: how I pulled that one off, but I did go
Speaker 2: in the penguinings of it and saw them up close,
Speaker 2: saw some prairie dogs in the in the big globe thing,
Speaker 2: and other than that, I'd not not a lot going
Speaker 2: on in Omaha. Some crime, I assume lots of crime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a really good frozen yogurt place that
Speaker 1: my wife wanted to stop at, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: to park the car anywhere.
Speaker 2: I understand that.
Speaker 1: First said crime reason, So I just kind of drove
Speaker 1: around while she waited in line and had the doors locked.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's hilariously real, Like I'm
Speaker 2: not comfortable parking here, but I'm let my wife just
Speaker 2: go stand in a crime infested area.
Speaker 1: Sure, just as long as you're inside the peach wave
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was completely fine.
Speaker 1: They have the College World series there, that's that's right.
Speaker 1: They still happened there. Yeah, it's it's kind of a landmark.
Speaker 1: It's what those people live for because they obviously don't have.
Speaker 2: A And that's actually right next to the zoo, I
Speaker 2: believe it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all in the same area. And yeah, the
Speaker 1: Iowa casinos sucked. We lost money there. Now, really, did
Speaker 1: you allegedly lose on your weekly sell bats?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get one of those one day,
Speaker 2: and you guys will be the first to hear about it.
Speaker 1: Hey, whenever that happens, I can't wait for it. Ranked
Speaker 1: teams to lose since the last time we did a podcast.
Speaker 1: Number six Perdues the only top ten team here. They
Speaker 1: lost to Marquette.
Speaker 2: Bigley, Number thirteen, Baylor to Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Number fourteen Creighton lost Stephen Ashworth and the game to Nebrasketball.
Speaker 2: Number seventeen Caleb Love shot himself in the foot and
Speaker 2: his team losing to Duke.
Speaker 1: You can do that one. Number twenty two Saint John's
Speaker 1: took two l's, one for each two in their ranking.
Speaker 1: They lost to Baylor and then they lost to Georgia
Speaker 1: not the Carson beck A basketball version.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Number twenty four Rutgers, which we are unsure of
Speaker 2: how they were in the top twenty five lost Kennesaw State.
Speaker 1: Especially with a loss like that, and number twenty five
Speaker 1: Illinois lost to Alabama. Still a pretty good squad. They
Speaker 1: just got Crimson tided last weekend pick them. Speaking of
Speaker 1: speaking of losing, oh no, oh no, Landon's might be
Speaker 1: grass at this point. He's already starting to fall behind,
Speaker 1: and now his next week's worth of picks are all
Speaker 1: heavy favorites because he's scared to fall further behind.
Speaker 2: He's got a one way ticket to Chicago.
Speaker 1: That's and probably the reason you say one way is
Speaker 1: because he's not coming out of that one.
Speaker 2: Because you guys will never know about the Pickham loss
Speaker 2: bet this year, but.
Speaker 1: No, we do, but you will know whenever the Pickham
Speaker 1: loss causes a loss, and it's a two person show
Speaker 1: permanently after that.
Speaker 2: Yep, that is how she goes, all right?
Speaker 1: Ask RCB should be short today, much like my patients
Speaker 1: for Kansas's pay for much like my patients for kJ
Speaker 1: Adams being in the starting lineup. Only six questions. So, Cam,
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you another question about Thanksgiving? So
Speaker 1: what do you typically do on Thanksgiving? This year you
Speaker 1: said you're gonna be scared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this year is weird. So I'm actually moving to
Speaker 2: the Chicago area this week. I'm leaving on Wednesday, so
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day, I'm driving back to Michigan, kind of the
Speaker 2: southern portion of Michigan. I'm going to my girlfriend's Thanksgiving,
Speaker 2: and I think all we're gonna do is we're gonna
Speaker 2: have a bunch of food. We're gonna watch the Lions play.
Speaker 2: Typically what I would do though, if it weren't this year,
Speaker 2: I'd spend it with my family in mid Michigan. We
Speaker 2: would have a big turkey dinner, we would watch the Lions.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I think Ryan, you were kind of right.
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is boring. I get bored, Like it's it's one
Speaker 2: of those holidays. You know how many people go and
Speaker 2: take walks on Thanksgiving, Like you have to be so
Speaker 2: bored to go take a walk.
Speaker 1: Yes, I completely agree it is. And this year it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be a lot colder down here and be
Speaker 1: cold here. It's cold there, so it's not great.
Speaker 2: No what do you do?
Speaker 1: But so we go over to my to my grandparents' house,
Speaker 1: and that group has gotten smaller over the years. As
Speaker 1: you had some We've had a lot of politically charged
Speaker 1: family disagreements thanks to I don't know the last four years.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only a lot that's happened there. So
Speaker 1: our group has gotten smaller, and it's just the people
Speaker 1: that well, it's the people who didn't let the others
Speaker 1: political opinions change their stand.
Speaker 2: That is crazy, by the way, we haven't had that.
Speaker 2: But I will say the things you should if anyone
Speaker 2: wants my advice, and you don't want my life advice,
Speaker 2: but I'll give you some things you should avoid in
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving number one politics, number two religion, and then number three.
Speaker 2: kJ Adams role in the starting line up at.
Speaker 1: Kansas sounds like something that John Rothstein would tweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we sleep in May.
Speaker 1: There you go, and Landon will sleep permanently after losing
Speaker 1: that pick them bet just way.
Speaker 2: Yes, he'll be buried in the South sud Chicago. I
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 1: That eventually we're gonna have to say what it is,
Speaker 1: what the bet is.
Speaker 2: It will have to like gingerly walk around the bed, but.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it'll have to. Just just know that you
Speaker 1: really don't want to come in last this year and
Speaker 1: pick them folks, and Landon's normally very good at that.
Speaker 1: The only thing that Landon is better at than finishing last,
Speaker 1: than is not winning. Pick him because he does both
Speaker 1: of them a lot. Yeah, Thanksgiving not really that entertaining.
Speaker 1: We'll go to a relative's house. My wife is also
Speaker 1: a nurse at a bedside nurse, so she has to
Speaker 1: work a lot of holidays, doesn't this year, So gonna
Speaker 1: try to make this year. Yeah, I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: make this year hashtag the best Holidays ever? Before you know,
Speaker 1: while you have that off, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Watch Normally people spend the day after Thanksgiving putting up
Speaker 1: their Christmas decorations. But that's not a problem. That's the
Speaker 1: day a thing you've been on this house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your advent season starts in actually right around
Speaker 2: the time that Lent begins, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And why not? Why not, especially in a
Speaker 1: year where there has been a lot of head scratching
Speaker 1: conversations and political, politically charged rifts that have happened, why
Speaker 1: not put up the Christmas tree. It'll make the it'll
Speaker 1: make the background noise from your relatives shouting at each other.
Speaker 1: The terriffs are gonna raise prices. No, it can't be worse.
Speaker 1: In the last four years Okay, I'm just gonna put
Speaker 1: up my Christmas tree and put in air pods and
Speaker 1: hope that nothing nothing else goes wrong.
Speaker 2: Yep. And that's when I walked to the bottom of
Speaker 2: the ocean.
Speaker 1: YEP, with center blocked on your ankles. Ask rock Chalk
Speaker 1: blog at show, and really most of these questions are
Speaker 1: about football, which is interesting.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: At the Real Wheel too, just sends their schedule with
Speaker 1: lots of l's and then three w's here recently and
Speaker 1: asks simply, what changed here? Do you think a lot
Speaker 1: changed with Kansas football?
Speaker 2: I actually that's a really good question. I don't think
Speaker 2: a lot changed. It's kind of an interesting thing to
Speaker 2: think about, right, because Jalen Daniels didn't play last year
Speaker 2: except for what the first couple of games, so he
Speaker 2: was rusty. Right, you have a new offensive coordinator coming in.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say that much changed. I almost
Speaker 2: want to lean into they became comfortable playing with each
Speaker 2: other and with kind of the new system, and also
Speaker 2: just getting used to having a new OC. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I kind of think that's more of what it was.
Speaker 1: What do you think I don't think that they're doing
Speaker 1: a whole lot different at all. The games are close
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and they've won three after losing
Speaker 1: five of six. Regression regression to the mean was kind
Speaker 1: of always gonna happen. I thought that it was gonna
Speaker 1: happen sooner than it did. But like, are you definitively
Speaker 1: saying like the offense is a freight train right now?
Speaker 1: And they still do weird stuff with play calling, like
Speaker 1: they get the ball of the three yard line by
Speaker 1: running it, then they just stop running it. But no,
Speaker 1: I think that overall, I think Kansas is an eight win,
Speaker 1: nine win team that's gonna finish with five or six
Speaker 1: because they were on the wrong end of several fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty breaks.
Speaker 2: Completely agree some of that.
Speaker 1: Some of that's coaching right, they could have done things better,
Speaker 1: but also football happened in some ways, and it's disappointing
Speaker 1: because a year that this is a team that's never
Speaker 1: been good, but they've also been unlucky and if they
Speaker 1: could ever use some positive fortune, it was this year
Speaker 1: and it just didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I agree. I also think this the next yeah cue
Speaker 2: the music, next weekend's game is so important for the program,
Speaker 2: even though they would be going six and six. That
Speaker 2: would be three straight Bowl games, which I believe has
Speaker 2: never happened before. So buckle in, folks, it's time to believe.
Speaker 1: What could go wrong Absolutely nothing when you put your
Speaker 1: faith in lance lightpel and yeah there. Yeah, speaking of
Speaker 1: Grimes at Ryman underscore justin. Was Jeff Grimes really calling
Speaker 1: the plays in the fourth quarter versus Colorado? I know
Speaker 1: he was calling him the first couple drives when they
Speaker 1: get it to the three yard line and then start
Speaker 1: freaking corner routes.
Speaker 2: Those Actually me with my Xbox controller calling in a
Speaker 2: wildcat play passes, reverse pass on Xbox.
Speaker 1: As Devin Neil is just averaging seven yards of carry
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, we didn't give it to him here. Also,
Speaker 1: it's hard to uh, it's hard to come up with
Speaker 1: a guy who has been more influential and important to
Speaker 1: the program all the years as Devin Neil.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just love to see him get to go out
Speaker 1: with a with a Bowl game and their one went
Speaker 1: away from getting to do it.
Speaker 2: Hope they win. Don't let me down. They probably will.
Speaker 1: Have they ever won in that new stadium down there,
Speaker 1: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm actually not sure on that one.
Speaker 1: That stadium is like a dozen years old, and I
Speaker 1: can't remember. They usually just get clobbered down there.
Speaker 2: I'm so rattled. This is so random. I'm drinking coconut
Speaker 2: water right now, and I've looked at the ingredients list,
Speaker 2: and on the ingredients list it says organic coconut meat.
Speaker 2: What does that even meet? Wow?
Speaker 1: The meat like the husk of the meat of the
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: That just rattled meat.
Speaker 1: The last time that camp so one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: lucky thirteen wins in a row for Baylor over Kansas
Speaker 1: in the series. The last time that Kansas beat the
Speaker 1: Bears was in two thousand and seven. The last time
Speaker 1: Kansas has won in Waco. They've never won in Waco lifetime.
Speaker 1: They are ten against the Bears. Yeah, so this will
Speaker 1: be this will be a big challenge. Yeah, they they
Speaker 1: they really look they're they're the better team. But they're
Speaker 1: not in a great good But they're not in a
Speaker 1: great situation here because they have seen energy wise, Yes,
Speaker 1: they have brought the energy and gotten up for three
Speaker 1: straight great teams. Here's the letdown spot. His story history says,
Speaker 1: it's not a team that's as good. They don't have
Speaker 1: a number in front of their name, and you just
Speaker 1: can't keep getting up for all these opponents. Eventually you're
Speaker 1: gonna fall flat. Maybe they can wait one more week, though,
Speaker 1: because it'd be this is the most important game that
Speaker 1: a lot of these seniors have played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely, three straight bowl games for this program would
Speaker 2: be huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be enormous. It'd be and Lance light Bold
Speaker 1: completing that turnaround three straight bowl games at Kansas. Imagine
Speaker 1: that ever thinking that was gonna happen more Kansas football questions,
Speaker 1: that showed me Hawk says, pick KU's football wins in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I mean they play a bunch of
Speaker 1: teams that they didn't play this year. They play at
Speaker 1: they do, play at Missouri, at Arizona, at Iowa State,
Speaker 1: and they get Utah, Oklahoma State, k State, and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and West Virginia are the home games, UCF and Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: On the road.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a super daunting schedule, but there's so
Speaker 1: much unknown with the roster makeup, They're gonna lose so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough call. There is a possibility that
Speaker 2: Jalen Daniels comes back. I mean he has a ul ability,
Speaker 2: so I mean win.
Speaker 1: I think he's not.
Speaker 2: He's not going to the NFL.
Speaker 1: Okay Landon was convinced he didn't have a year of eligibiity.
Speaker 2: No, he has. He can come back.
Speaker 1: He can come back like with an nil bag. Why not?
Speaker 2: I think I actually think he might. Let's say hypothetically
Speaker 2: he comes back. Obviously, I think they win against Fresilo State,
Speaker 2: they win against Wagner. At Missouri. I'm gonna say they
Speaker 2: lose at Arizona, win at Iowa State loss, U saw win,
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State win. They're gonna win against Kansas State at
Speaker 2: some point. Not Cincinnati will probably win West Virginia at home.
Speaker 2: We'll say win at Texas Tech loss at UCF loss.
Speaker 2: So what is that seven.
Speaker 1: Seve seven and five. Yeah, and that's undefeated on the
Speaker 1: home schedule and one in five on the road. Right, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: you gave him a loss. Did you give him a
Speaker 1: home loss?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gave him you said, uh so that would
Speaker 1: be eight and four. You gave him eight wins there.
Speaker 2: Eight and four sounds right, but that'd be really good.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's probably gonna be closer to like
Speaker 2: seven and five or six and six.
Speaker 1: If they get to boil eligibility next year, I'll be stoked,
Speaker 1: stoked and with the animals, that should be the expectation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree at Mayo Zeke Berner, we obviously have the
Speaker 1: top seven figured out. How would you rank the trio
Speaker 1: of Shackmore David Koit I refuse to call him Diggy
Speaker 1: after Yeah, after hearing Brian Hainey say it and Racki's Passmore.
Speaker 1: Those three guys, who would you give the most minutes?
Speaker 1: Two of the three?
Speaker 2: Zach Clemens.
Speaker 1: Oh, of course. The Caucasian persuasion, Yes, you go ahead,
Speaker 1: it's it's gotta be quite. Quite does the most things here,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think Shaquis or Shakys shack Moore
Speaker 1: and ro Key's pass More. They're kind of similar players,
Speaker 1: but shaq is just a more polished version of that.
Speaker 1: At this point. Uh so, I I'm probably rolling with
Speaker 1: uh Diggy quoit. There you go, Brian Haney, followed by
Speaker 1: shack Moore and then Rakeys pass More.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna name my firstborn child Shakise or whatever.
Speaker 2: He just said, yeah, keys, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna agree,
Speaker 2: give it, give me diggy diggy quite minutes.
Speaker 1: And don't give Brian Haney the microphone. Look, here's all
Speaker 1: I'll say about Brian Haney. All right, there has to
Speaker 1: be somebody better.
Speaker 2: I saw a tweet that said that, and then I
Speaker 2: was going to at you in that, but you already
Speaker 2: made it to the mentions.
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, yes, I said that. I
Speaker 1: want to stab myself through the ear drums with an
Speaker 1: ice pick every time I hear it's a better year.
Speaker 1: That's what the idiot said after they won a national championships.
Speaker 2: So funny.
Speaker 1: Seriously, it's just just awful. Oh, absolutely awful. At Ol
Speaker 1: heart Casey, if you could only eat one fast, it's
Speaker 1: so easy for the rest of your life. Is it McDonald's.
Speaker 2: No, it's Chipotlet. I don't eat so I haven't had
Speaker 2: fried food in forever. So I like Chipotle because it's
Speaker 2: relatively healthy. It has different meat, you can mix it up.
Speaker 2: You can have tacos, brita bowl, courrito, you can make
Speaker 2: a salad if you're into that type of thing. Nah,
Speaker 2: it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I think it's McDonald's McDonald's the best man. I could
Speaker 1: eat McDonald's every day for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: I really could, and I weigh one hundred and eighteen pounds.
Speaker 2: You should eat McDonald's for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work that way. I wish it did,
Speaker 1: and it just would probably cause the cholesterol to shoot
Speaker 1: like a rocket. Not necessarily the number on the scale. No,
Speaker 1: I could eat McDonald's all the time. They are number
Speaker 1: one in all the categories. I wish they'd stop raising
Speaker 1: their freaking prices. But big, big McDonald's guy here at
Speaker 1: show me. Okay, here's a question. What is your least
Speaker 1: favorite fast food restaurant?
Speaker 2: Mine? Oh man, Oh, it's a hard question. I would
Speaker 2: say probably Burger King.
Speaker 1: Burger King hasn't Like there's a Burger King by my
Speaker 1: house and I drive by it every day and I
Speaker 1: never see any customers there.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they stay open.
Speaker 1: It's like that SpongeBob episode where they go thirty eight
Speaker 1: days in the Krusty Krab with that customer that's that
Speaker 1: Burger King, Like who's keeping them up?
Speaker 2: They have like senior citizens that go there every single day.
Speaker 2: That's there's like a shell gas station in my town,
Speaker 2: and if you go in there at any time, there's
Speaker 2: like five dudes that are on oxygen tanks. They're eating
Speaker 2: a whopper.
Speaker 1: And they're all done with their lunch before eleven AM.
Speaker 1: So in very sad, sad news, my wife loves Golden Corral,
Speaker 1: a very sad, sad loss. She likes to eat at
Speaker 1: Golden Corral like she actually does. And I understand that
Speaker 1: you may be thinking I'm either married to somebody who's
Speaker 1: eighty or weighs eight hundred pounds. Neither of those things
Speaker 1: are true, but she likes Golden Corral.
Speaker 2: A week ago, Ryan, if you go to any Golden
Speaker 2: Coral in the United States of America at any have
Speaker 2: an hour, you were going to find somebody that can
Speaker 2: put up Wilt Chamberlain numbers and try try gliss rides
Speaker 2: with their blood work.
Speaker 1: And odds are their pants will be pulled down too
Speaker 1: far and you'll get a nice shot of a big
Speaker 1: Harry butt crack.
Speaker 2: Ats just like Bob Huggins get an injected. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they all look like Bob Huggins. And Golden Corral
Speaker 1: really isn't that bad. We go because we're on the
Speaker 1: night shift schedule, so our dinner or our lunchtime is
Speaker 1: about three o'clock when all the seniors are riding up
Speaker 1: for their dinner time, and I'm just thinking, what are
Speaker 1: what are we doing with our lives? We're eating?
Speaker 2: Right, it will good, They are good.
Speaker 1: The honey butter kind of stuff spread that you find
Speaker 1: it is. It doesn't necessarily mean that it makes up
Speaker 1: for the fact that all the gross people that walk
Speaker 1: out of that bathroom without washing their hands. And also
Speaker 1: if you think I'm gonna ruin this for for anybody
Speaker 1: who goes to Golden Corral, when you stop and think
Speaker 1: about how many different mouths that you bring that you're
Speaker 1: using really has been in and what some of those
Speaker 1: mouths looked like. Well, there's a reason that we literally
Speaker 1: bring our own silver work.
Speaker 2: That's actually a good idea. I'll give you that.
Speaker 1: Yes, we bring the little plastic utensils like we got,
Speaker 1: We got all that. It's could be worse. Yeah, just think,
Speaker 1: just think about your You're putting a lot of trust
Speaker 1: in the Golden Corral diswasher. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the average Golden Corral customer
Speaker 2: kind of looks like a cross between Bob Huggins and
Speaker 2: that guide the Fridge that played for the Bears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's and they can they can put up
Speaker 1: Will numbers, as.
Speaker 2: You said, we've Will Chamberlain plate numbers.
Speaker 1: If it was the Olympics, we'd find people that could
Speaker 1: do it. And speaking of the Olympics, our last question
Speaker 1: is about that at show me, Hawk says, if Olympic
Speaker 1: soccer games for a Dallas summer Olympics bit are outsourced
Speaker 1: to David Booth Memorial Stadium and or the new Chief Stadium,
Speaker 1: would you go watch any of the Olympics soccer games.
Speaker 1: I land and probably love soccer. I did. I can't
Speaker 1: watch any soccer boy that.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big soccer guy either. It's hard for
Speaker 2: me to watch. I can barely watch if Ryan will
Speaker 2: hay this. I can't really watch baseball must I'm there
Speaker 2: in person TV Baseball for.
Speaker 1: Me and watch baseball either. Like I can watch baseball,
Speaker 1: but it's gotta be it's a background thing. I can
Speaker 1: sit on my couch and watch a game in April,
Speaker 1: like it's it's a good thing when you got some housework. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And and the average game just really doesn't matter until
Speaker 1: you get a deeper end of the year. Uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I can't. I can't watch soccer. I
Speaker 1: try every World Cup, Men's and women's. I try every Olympics.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. It's background TV.
Speaker 2: I'm in the same boat. Not my thing.
Speaker 1: Landon will kill both of us. But I think that's
Speaker 1: the right take. Yeah, well he's having scarcbs. He's not
Speaker 1: here for at least one more preview and now we
Speaker 1: preview a big boy game. All right, So the rankings
Speaker 1: are gonna shift, but for now it is number one
Speaker 1: Kansas versus number twelve Duke. They'll probably climb into the
Speaker 1: top ten. On Tuesday, November twenty six, at eight o'clock
Speaker 1: PM in Las Vegas, in lieu of a Feast week tournament,
Speaker 1: Kansas will just draw. The one game against the Blue
Speaker 1: Devils in Las Vegas. Should be a blast.
Speaker 2: Of a game, yeah, John Shire's Duke. Blue Devils are
Speaker 2: four and one on the year, with a lost Kentucky
Speaker 2: being their only loss. Their favorite, perk hen Pom, and
Speaker 2: have a seventy percent chance of winning this game according
Speaker 2: to ESPN, and a.
Speaker 1: Big part of why their favorite is All Universe freshman
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag, who leads the team in every category. Remember
Speaker 1: that game Andrew Wiggins dropped forty one on West forgot
Speaker 1: I do? And they show the stats where he led
Speaker 1: them in rebounds and points and it's just his picture
Speaker 1: five times. Yep, that is Duke's uh season leaders in
Speaker 1: everything with Cooper Flagg. You see his face a lot
Speaker 1: on their website because he leads them in points with eighteen, rebounds,
Speaker 1: with nine assists, with four steals, with two blocks with
Speaker 1: two all of which are first on the Blue Devils.
Speaker 1: He is a six ' nine two oh five small
Speaker 1: forward that plays more of the four and excels at
Speaker 1: just about everything this sport has to offer. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been a terrific three point volume shitter yet twenty six
Speaker 1: percent through his first five games, but he's been unstoppable
Speaker 1: driving to the basket. He can score from everywhere on
Speaker 1: the floor. He is a guy who wants the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands laid. He is clutch. He is a
Speaker 1: brilliant basketball player, and I'm glad that Kansas is playing
Speaker 1: him before. Yeah, he gets too much better because he's
Speaker 1: he's just accumulating knowledge Transformer style by.
Speaker 2: The game, No kidding. Also, I really really hope that
Speaker 2: Detroit Right drafts him in the NBA draft. Next to
Speaker 2: Flag in the front court is seven foot two Sudanese
Speaker 2: center Kaman Maluak, who is very raw. I probably butchered
Speaker 2: his name, but who's very raw. He has a huge
Speaker 2: athletic upside and averages nine to six and nineteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Fouling has been his biggest weakness thus far. They also
Speaker 2: bring in the six foot nine Milik Brown to play
Speaker 2: in the front court for their other rebounder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Duke backcourt has a little bit more
Speaker 1: familiarity with the names their point guards Junior and Tyrese
Speaker 1: Proctor twelve points. He's been a very good forty five
Speaker 1: percent three point shooter so far this year. But the
Speaker 1: shooter to watch is white Guy of the Game candidate
Speaker 1: who he looks like it the unibomber himself, con Nippel,
Speaker 1: who averages, lives in a shed and does nothing but
Speaker 1: make threes against the j Birds forty five while shooting
Speaker 1: forty from three. He is their best shooter and his
Speaker 1: six seven size makes him very difficult to guard. This
Speaker 1: feels like the spot where kJ Adams gets in some
Speaker 1: trouble and for being real slashing wing Caleb Foster and
Speaker 1: senior guard Pion James round out a rotation that is
Speaker 1: not super deep, but they have talent everywhere in every way. Yeah, correct,
Speaker 1: Zion James not related to Lebron James, but you know,
Speaker 1: give or take. Yeah, Duke has been one of college
Speaker 1: basketball's best three point shooting teams this year, averaging twelve
Speaker 1: makes and thirty one attempts per game. They've been terrific
Speaker 1: of both passing and protecting the ball, and their pace
Speaker 1: has been higher than it normally is. They haven't committed
Speaker 1: many fouls, and they've posted elite rebounding numbers. Their biggest
Speaker 1: weakness thus far is how they've only gotten to the
Speaker 1: free throw line sixteen times per game, likely due to
Speaker 1: a lot of perimeter shooting. Yep, yep. Bill Shelf is
Speaker 1: four and two against the Blue Devils and his time
Speaker 1: at Kansas, which has brought KU back to six and
Speaker 1: eight in the all time series, getting closer to five hundred.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: They've won four of last five, with three Champions Classic
Speaker 1: wins and a twenty eighteen Elite eight victory that technically
Speaker 1: didn't happen according to the NCAA Record Books. Good time
Speaker 1: for you to say your key phrase allegedly correct. Yep,
Speaker 1: all right, let's predict this game. Landon gonna start with
Speaker 1: Landon he thinks Kansas takes a loss here. He thinks
Speaker 1: Cooper flag scores thirty and Duke wins a shootout eighty
Speaker 1: two to seventy nine.
Speaker 2: What say you, yeah, I get where he's coming from there.
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna take Kansas wins eighty five to seventy one.
Speaker 2: I think the experience of Kansas overtakes Duke. I also
Speaker 2: think Bill self is worth a couple of points by
Speaker 2: himself over John Shire.
Speaker 1: Interesting see, I think Duke wins as well. I think
Speaker 1: that the Devils win this game because I think they
Speaker 1: match up really poorly with Kansas. From a Kansas perspective.
Speaker 1: Duke has size and athleticism. They have Kansas beat in
Speaker 1: both of those categories. I think Hunter Dickinson do just fine,
Speaker 1: but I'm terrified trying to picture what they're gonna do
Speaker 1: with kJ Adams and I think that Duke. I think
Speaker 1: that they have the athletes to slow Kansas down in transition.
Speaker 1: The faster this game is played, the better for Kansas.
Speaker 1: Will it ultimately lead to a win? I think it's close.
Speaker 1: I'll say Duke eighty Kansas seventy six, but I hope
Speaker 1: I'm wrong because Duke is my least favorite team in
Speaker 1: the sport, and I would love to be incorrect. Other games,
Speaker 1: We're gonna pick twelve other games and all you can
Speaker 1: eat night here on the Inside the Paint Podcast, starting
Speaker 1: with the first four games in Maui, Wi chickoff at
Speaker 1: one thirty our time tomorrow today. Whenever you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: Memphis against the number two Yukon. I assume we all
Speaker 1: want the Huskies. Yep, Colorado versus Cam's favorite Michigan State
Speaker 1: Spartans team. I'll go with Michigan State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me tom Izzo.
Speaker 1: Great game here. These rankings will shift, but these teams
Speaker 1: will both be ranked as high as they are. Number
Speaker 1: four Auburn versus number five Iowa State in the first
Speaker 1: round of the Maui Invitational, I will go with Auburn.
Speaker 2: I also will go with Auburn.
Speaker 1: I think they're better by a lot at this point
Speaker 1: in the year. And Dayton versus number ten North Carolina,
Speaker 1: I think we're all going chock here.
Speaker 2: We'll go with you and see yup. Give me North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Now there's four games in the Players Era Tournament, which
Speaker 1: is for nil money. The winning team gets a million
Speaker 1: dollars of nil to use between their players. That's This
Speaker 1: tournament kicks off on Tuesday. San Diego State versus Number
Speaker 1: fourteen Crayton. I will go with the Aztecs. I think
Speaker 1: that Creighton's really wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna differ here. I'm gonna say Creighton bounce
Speaker 2: is back. However, it wouldn't shock me if San Diego
Speaker 2: State wins.
Speaker 1: Oregon versus number twenty three Texas A and M feels
Speaker 1: like that the Ducks always are more of a late
Speaker 1: arriving team. So I will go with the Aggies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: Number seven Houston versus number eight Alabama. Really nice matchup here,
Speaker 1: ESPN says Cougars. I say, Crimson Tide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me, give me the fighting names.
Speaker 1: And number twenty four. I'll forget that they ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be ranked anymore. Rutgers versus Notre Dame and a game
Speaker 1: that actually will happen. I can't people will watch it, yep.
Speaker 1: I will go with Rutgers.
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, give me the fighting Greg Ciano's.
Speaker 1: Rutgers, Louisville, and now we go on to the last
Speaker 1: four games we're picking here. This is the first round
Speaker 1: of Wednesday's battle for Atlantis. We'll be doing a show
Speaker 1: Wednesday night where we should have recaps to most of
Speaker 1: these games. Louisville versus Number sixteen Indiana. I think that
Speaker 1: Mike Woodson's team is really good this year until he
Speaker 1: eventually sets them back, which will happen. I will ride
Speaker 1: with him that happens. Give me the.
Speaker 2: Hoosiggers, give mess mister potato ahead. Give me the Hoosiers.
Speaker 1: West Virginia versus Number three Gonzaga. I think we all
Speaker 1: want the Bulldogs big.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zaga. Buy as many points as you can buy
Speaker 2: on DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma versus Providence. I there are no Big twelve team.
Speaker 1: I was gonna, Oh yeah, I guess West Rgiana counts.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Not banking on the Sooners though. Give me the Friars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I give me the Friars as well.
Speaker 1: And Davidson versus Number seventeen Arizona. The Wildcats haven't proven
Speaker 1: that they can beat anybody with a pulse this year.
Speaker 1: Does that change? No?
Speaker 2: Give me Arizona, Okay.
Speaker 1: I will, I will agree, I guess, I guess I
Speaker 1: reluctantly agree. So we will be back on Wednesday night, Cam.
Speaker 1: That's moving day for you. Are you taking absence? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna run?
Speaker 2: I'm going to pull a Tiger Woods in the two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight US Open on one leg and attempt
Speaker 2: to do the show with terrible internet that I'll be
Speaker 2: setting up on my on my own in my own apartment.
Speaker 2: So if you guys hear about a forest fire started
Speaker 2: in Mount Prospect, Illinois, that was my doing.
Speaker 1: But I will try to be too many things. All right, Hey,
Speaker 1: look at that dedication you could teach let's go. No,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding land and Landon has been as dedicated as
Speaker 1: anybody on this show, and he will be back. So
Speaker 1: we'll be back to a three person show for the
Speaker 1: biggest recap of the season thus far. And then I mean, well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very short lived because then they play
Speaker 1: Furman Cam.
Speaker 2: What is the Paladin mascot?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: You knew it that one, Okay, So the only reason
Speaker 2: that I knew that is that I knew the assistant
Speaker 2: golf coach at Furnman for a while. Wow, That's the
Speaker 2: only reason I knew.
Speaker 1: That I'm assuming Kansas and Furman I've never played, because
Speaker 1: I think we would know that if we did.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a first round matchup in the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 2: but I don't.
Speaker 1: Think they have it does and that game will not
Speaker 1: be as good as the Duke one. But that is
Speaker 1: Kansas's final draw of November. So back on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: Show will drop Thursday morning for you all to listen
Speaker 1: to as you're driving to your in laws house on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Surely it'll get you a nice break. Yeah, exactly. Should
Speaker 1: should help hearing us talk about why they couldn't they
Speaker 1: try to stop Cooper flag with kJ Adams and we
Speaker 1: just push the whole time. It's gonna be even better
Speaker 1: than your relative's house. Happy Thanksgiving. This is inside the
Speaker 1: paint on Rock Chuck Flog.
Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Lander and I'm Cam Lippolt.
Speaker 1: All right, well you want to say something to land In.
Speaker 2: Yeah, land and welcome back from your ten day suspension
Speaker 2: from the NBA G League. We hope to have you
Speaker 2: back on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Land In, your suspension is so good. But you know
Speaker 1: we're not going to suspend reffs and we're not going
Speaker 1: to suspend kickers, the two stupid groups that deserve it more.
Speaker 2: John Higgins should be sent to Siberia.
Speaker 1: So should the freaking commander's kicker for that atrocity. Today,
Speaker 1: so bad,