WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:10.839 Hey, everybody, welcome back to Game Best Mornings with Me 2 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.759 Jeff Grubb, your host from giant bomb dot com. 3 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:16.280 Thank you for tuning in. In this episode, we're gonna. 4 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:19.399 Be talking more about getting more of the Witcher three 5 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:20.440 and twenty twenty six. 6 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:22.800 And no, it's not a typo. I didn't mean Witcher four. 7 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.600 It's gonna be this. Graphics cards are at the perfect 8 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:27.199 place to be playing the Witcher three. 9 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.440 You want to go back, let's just keep going backwards. 10 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.719 Everything's going that way. We have lex Lettie on this show. 11 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:34.640 That's how you know it's gonna be a gooding Lexi, 12 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:35.560 how are you doing. 13 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:40.119 I'm doing okay, I'm very tired. Turns out me too. 14 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:45.079 Turns out when you fuckers take the website independent, a 15 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.399 lot of people want to contribute to your guest Game 16 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:48.759 of the Year listen, more. 17 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:53.159 So than other years. Yeah, I got to ask. 18 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:55.560 Like ten people and that we meant to ask, and 19 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:57.520 it's like even then it would have been oh boy, 20 00:00:57.560 --> 00:00:58.439 that would have been quite fit. 21 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:02.560 Yeah, And so me and Marino edited a lot of 22 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:06.079 stuff and a little behind the scenes look at things. 23 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:09.840 The image library hasn't hasn't come over from the old website. 24 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:12.879 So when we were cmssing all that, we had to 25 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:14.280 find new images. 26 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:17.599 And that was a good thing overall that that image 27 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:18.560 library didn't come over. 28 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:19.200 There was a lot of. 29 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:22.040 Fun stuff in there that, yeah's not necessarily a Serve 30 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:23.439 Giant bomb in any way. 31 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.159 Yeah, yes, I was also thinking about that was that 32 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.280 was probably a shed pool, and so yeah, me and 33 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:32.959 Marino were also spent a lot of time building up 34 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.079 the backbone of an image library with images for pretty 35 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:38.280 much like every game that came out in twenty twenty 36 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:43.239 six or twenty twenty five, because honestly, I'm like, those 37 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:46.760 are wild spreading games, and we wound up you know, 38 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.359 almost it felt like almost every game that came out 39 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.599 this year. Goanna mentioned in one of the lists. If 40 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:54.439 you haven't led the lists, go wead the lists. I 41 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:57.439 mentioned Drive Club in mind because I'm sick. 42 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.159 Drive clubs have is it having a moment? It feels 43 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:03.319 like I keep hearing about. 44 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:05.920 Drive Club is drive Club was taken offline and it 45 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:07.719 is like in a semi function. I stay, it's the 46 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:09.080 PS four one, right. 47 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:12.479 I think what happened is people like have been getting 48 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.199 it running really well in the emulators, and so that's 49 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.759 where it's having its moment, is I'm trying to rescue 50 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:18.360 it over there. 51 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:20.560 I know, me and John Linneman are like the two 52 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.879 Drive Club Defend Defenders and that game has really cool 53 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.680 like day night cycle stuff where it's baked lighting but 54 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.800 it's done to like change as you drive through the level, 55 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.080 and it's really dramatic. It's like shockingly good for what 56 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:34.439 it is. 57 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:38.479 I think Greg Sewart, who who submitted a list for us, 58 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:40.879 he's also a drive Club sicco, although these days I 59 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.319 think he's fully in on back on Grand Turismo. So look, 60 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:48.560 you'll have your games you play him, Like, were you 61 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:50.080 in like a Drive Club League? 62 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:51.159 Like I know they had. 63 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:55.159 Those, No, because all that stuff is gone now. They 64 00:02:56.120 --> 00:03:00.159 like like chucked all that out. And they also they 65 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.000 sell of all the menus for like by the DLC. 66 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:07.000 The DLC isn't for sale anymore, so you know, And 67 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:08.520 speaking of that, do you want to know what The 68 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:13.719 first game I played in twenty twenty six was please Anthem? 69 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:17.520 Okay? Are you okay? 70 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:23.120 No? Obviously, and that game's going offline forever in two 71 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:24.000 weeks and. 72 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:27.800 I didn't even know that the guy maybe I reported 73 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.560 here and forgot yeah, two weeks. 74 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:33.120 And it's no longer for sale. They took it off 75 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.199 for sale in August, and now it's going offline sometime 76 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.280 late next week or early the week after. 77 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:42.400 And but basically I think we're going to play that. 78 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:42.840 I don't know. 79 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.960 Here's the thing. I need some people to play that with, 80 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.479 because I'm not sure if you remember Anthem, but a 81 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:51.560 large part of the structure of that game is once 82 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.159 you get done the first couple of missions, they're like, 83 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.120 go complete the trials that Didley fuck or whatever, and 84 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:02.319 the trials that diddly fuck are just like your dailies. 85 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.319 It's like, go do some dailies. But one of the 86 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.879 daily dailies, right, yeah, one of the dailies that you 87 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:14.199 have to do is revive three other javelins. And I 88 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:19.920 can't find anyone else to revive, so I can't progress 89 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:24.680 the story. I'm stuck. And so unless I squat up 90 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.959 with people, I can't finish Anthem before it goes off live. 91 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:31.120 I am a I'm good personal friends with the greatest 92 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.040 of all Anthem defenders, A J. 93 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:35.319 Manati, So maybe. 94 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.279 I'll give him a ring and see if he wants 95 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:38.639 to show us around one last time. 96 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:42.560 An Anthem, you know, game promise. 97 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:44.959 You yeah, say what you will about that game flying around. 98 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.120 It's oh, yes, some good flying around they nail. 99 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:51.639 And that's like that was the focus of that demo. 100 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:56.240 I like was like, Okay, I'm fully on board with this. 101 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.160 This is going to be massive, and it's like, oh, 102 00:04:58.360 --> 00:04:59.680 once you play it and you see all the other 103 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:03.639 issue you know, specifically for BioWare in that moment, it 104 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:05.360 was animation. 105 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:06.199 Not what anyone wanted. 106 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.600 Yeah, yeah, and they just couldn't They couldn't like make 107 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.120 their games feel alive. That was the problem with Andromeda 108 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.079 because the frost Bite was the problem with this game. 109 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.519 They just didn't have anybody at their studio that could 110 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:17.639 get animations looking good, so they had to kind of 111 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:20.759 make everything static. And like there was the cool dance 112 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:22.959 club scenes for Mass Effect, and those are just nowhere 113 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:25.560 to be seen in a game like this, and it. 114 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.399 Just it is kind of wild that even after Andromeda 115 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:34.040 and Anthem, they still were forced to use or chose 116 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:36.319 to use frost Bite for Veil God. Like I like 117 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.040 Veil God. I actually think it's a pretty remarkable game 118 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:43.360 given the context it was made in. But like the 119 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.519 fact that they were still using frost Bite when everything 120 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.639 about those games is so clearly underpinned on Hey, the 121 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:51.879 tech doesn't support the way we are trying to make 122 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:55.079 games is wild. And I have a question for you though, 123 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.800 before we get into stuff. How was Games Done Quick? 124 00:05:58.399 --> 00:05:59.279 It was a lot of fun. 125 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:03.040 Yeah, so, AJ, Mike, and me went to awesome Games 126 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.639 Done Quick on day one yesterday. We got there right 127 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:07.800 as like the Mario Sunshine run was ending. 128 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:10.519 Oh you thank god you dodged the bullet. 129 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:11.759 Yes, exactly. 130 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:15.199 We kept ourselves safe and secure from that scourge. I look, 131 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.360 I like Sunshine. I like when people run it. Especially 132 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.600 that's where that game actually literally shines is as a 133 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:25.560 speed run game. I yeah, it's great. It's nice to 134 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:27.480 be able to just drive over to Pittsburgh, kind of 135 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.079 a quick jaunt from Mike's house. I just drive over there. 136 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.480 We all drive together. It's We're there in no time. 137 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.199 Spent most of the day there, saw a bunch of 138 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.720 cool runs, saw some cool people. Mike did actually finally 139 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:41.439 beat me in Street Fighter third Strike. 140 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:46.000 He told me at dinner. No videos, no, AJ might 141 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:46.240 have it. 142 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.439 I wasn't sure if he was recording, but I think 143 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.079 it still doesn't qualify because Mike told me at dinner 144 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.319 that he was looking up tips and he's like, oh, 145 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:59.319 just play us for you and use the charge Hadoogan 146 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.279 because it can use this people. And I gotta tell you, 147 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.959 I was confused, all right. 148 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.519 I wish yould get from the number one mythology speed 149 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:05.759 on it. 150 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:07.879 I know, yes, God, that was also fun. 151 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:11.480 I that was very funny. 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If you are watching live on Twitch, welcome, 181 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:27.720 we can always You can always listen to the show 182 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.279 later on podcast feeds by searching for Game Mess Mornings, 183 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.440 or find the RSS feed on giant bomb dot com. 184 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.919 You can also catch the show later with chapters and 185 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:37.399 timestamps on YouTube. 186 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:39.639 Hello YouTube. 187 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:40.919 All right, we have a lot to get into, so 188 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.080 let's start the Morning Mess with the aforementioned the Witcher three, 189 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.840 which is reportedly getting a surprise new expansion this year. 190 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.120 This is from Andy Robinson at VGC. Let's get into it. 191 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:57.679 Polish noble securities analyst Mathouse Scharanowski. Listen, I'm sure I'm 192 00:08:57.720 --> 00:09:00.159 butchering that I did my best said last month that 193 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.200 he was expecting the next paid add on DLC for 194 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:06.200 the Witcher three to be released in May twenty twenty six, 195 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:06.799 according to. 196 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:08.000 A Polish website. 197 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:11.480 The report follows similar claims from a Polish games insider 198 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.080 Boris Nispilaksmilak is, I'm gonna say that one who said 199 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.759 last year that the new content was secretly in development 200 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.480 at fool's theory, the same studio currently remaking the Witcher 201 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.840 one for CD project, and I like, you know, it's 202 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.519 the basics here, there's some other stuff. 203 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:27.840 Maybe. 204 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.279 Eurogamer has since followed up who with Nispilak who told 205 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.919 it was? This information was verified by several independent sources. Okay, 206 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:38.600 I gotta say when you lay it out like that, 207 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:42.559 the studio that's redoing the Witcher one kind of also 208 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:46.480 maybe getting used to working in the Witcher three creating content, 209 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.960 and maybe that's all kind of serving the overall goal 210 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:53.000 of making the Witcher like constantly relevant and having new stuff. 211 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.600 All of that sounds plausible to me, how about. 212 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:59.559 You, Yeah, I suppose this stuff isn't unheard of. I 213 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:00.919 think a lot of people are like, I've never heard 214 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:05.399 of this. Borderlands two got a DLC right before Borderlands 215 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.000 three released, which I'm not sure many people remember, and 216 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.840 it's pretty okay. It's like going back to Borderlands two. 217 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.559 It slots that in with that stuff, and you know, 218 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:19.320 this isn't unheard of as a way to create like 219 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.919 a bit of interest. In the case of Borderlands two, 220 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:24.279 I'm not sure it worked because that game was so 221 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:27.799 old feeling in a lot of ways, like it was 222 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:30.360 a generation old. People had moved on to the PS 223 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.840 four and were well into the PS four at that point. 224 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:36.879 With the Witcher, I think like that game has kind 225 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:39.440 of become evergreen on people's hard drives in a way 226 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.399 where like they've done that next gen update, it still 227 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:46.320 feels pretty new. Like my brother is in this house 228 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.440 right now for Christmas playing The Witcher three for the 229 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:51.000 first time, and he's like, yeah, this game is fucking awesome. 230 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:57.039 So yeah, like that game, yeahs is very is like 231 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:00.559 eminently playable right now, so I can totally sere getting 232 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.480 DLC as to how it would tie into the Witcher For. 233 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.799 I'm like super curious and at some point I should 234 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:10.320 really reach out to uh Kean mar who's over there, 235 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:12.559 who used to be a games journalist, who is now 236 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:15.840 the head of Law and that sounds like a fun 237 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.080 job just being in charge of the Witcher Law. 238 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:20.879 You gotta have always the name the like low Keeper, 239 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.159 right you're gonna have Yeah, yeah, cool, that's your job. 240 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:27.399 And so yeah, I'm curious how they like actually work 241 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:31.679 this into the Witcher For and like if it's how 242 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.799 far out the Witcher for is based on that. I 243 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:36.120 know they were talking some big tark elation in the 244 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:40.000 year of like this thing's gonna come out in six years, 245 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:42.720 all three of these games, the new trilogy. 246 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:45.519 And it's like that never we know that never works. 247 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:49.840 Yeah, CD CD Project Red have had enough delays for 248 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:52.080 all of their games that like, I don't buy that 249 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:53.480 for a second. I'm sorry. 250 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:56.720 Yeah, I think I think the reason that this is 251 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.120 something that is happening is because you laid it out 252 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:03.639 like the game are more like timeless than they've ever been, 253 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.159 and the Witcher three is certainly and that that like, 254 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:08.559 first it's on the other side of the line of delineation, 255 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.799 where any game released after this point just feels like 256 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.000 any game released after it as well. You know, Doom 257 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:16.840 twenty sixteen and on is kind of the one the 258 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.799 game game I always use, but Witcher three is certainly 259 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:21.720 right there as well as a game that could just 260 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:24.279 sell forever. We've seen it do that, and even like 261 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:27.080 games that don't have the profile of Witcher three are 262 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:30.759 doing similar things. I mean it's similar, like not exactly 263 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:32.480 the same, but we'll talk about it in a little bit. 264 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.440 Avatar got that new DLC and that's a year later. 265 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:37.159 I guess that's a normal timeline, but it just for 266 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.480 that feels like a game that is trying to capitalize 267 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.639 on something else external and using DLC to do it. 268 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.559 I don't think anyone was necessarily believing that that was 269 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.519 going to make some huge difference, but it did because 270 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.480 of the external circumstances. Beyond Good and Evil, Beyond Good 271 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.480 and Evil two is supposedly still coming. So when they 272 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:59.120 redid Beyond Good and Evil one hooks and to Beyond 273 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:01.240 Good and Evil one, like this idea that, like Beyond 274 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:02.600 Gonna Eople two is really going to come out one 275 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:06.559 day so we'll have just some suggestions towards that second game. Again, 276 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:09.120 not exactly the same, but it does feel like they're 277 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.480 trying to, like when they have an opportunity, hook these 278 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.879 games into one another in a more real way, and. 279 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.399 Even one felt a bit more like manifesting than anything else. 280 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.679 Definitely, But it's all kind of part of the same 281 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.559 idea of like, we can use these things that we 282 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.919 have at our disposal to kind of make people care 283 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.679 more if we if we actually if we care more ourselves. 284 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.600 And so I think that we'll probably see this kind 285 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:38.360 of thing more frequently, And the Witcher series definitely feels 286 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.080 like the one that could take a huge advantage of 287 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:41.759 this sort of thing. 288 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:44.879 So we'll see May twenty six. 289 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:47.679 You know, that was going to be the time where 290 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:51.240 we were getting a grand theft Auto six, so it's 291 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:54.279 like that's not happening anymore. So yeah, I could see 292 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.679 something like this popping up in that time frame pretty easily, 293 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.000 all right, Metro Prime four devs say rebooting the game 294 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:04.600 again was out of the question despite changing tastes. This 295 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.559 is like more information as we get more details about 296 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:08.639 what happened with this game. 297 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:12.840 From Andy Robinson at VGC. Nintendo has said that. 298 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.679 Rebooting Metroid Prime four development for a second time was 299 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.480 considered out of the question, despite committing to an open 300 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:23.200 world hub formula that faced changed player trends by the 301 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:26.240 time it was completed. Metro Prime four Beyond was finally 302 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:29.080 released for Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switched to last month, 303 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.720 after nearly a decade of development and a change of developer. 304 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:36.679 The game received generally favorable reviews, but attracted some criticism 305 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.600 for its support characters in desert Hub world, which some 306 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.159 perceived as dated, and a new interview with Famitsu translated 307 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.399 by Nintendo Everything, Metro Prime Force development team has discussed 308 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.200 its lengthy production for the first time. According to the 309 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:53.879 uncredited in interviewee Yond's formula came from an initial desire 310 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:57.519 to implement open world features into the series. However, the 311 00:14:57.559 --> 00:14:59.919 interview suggests that by the time the game approach completion, 312 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.240 the development team may have had some doubts about the 313 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.960 direction it had set, but it considered further delays unrealistic 314 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:08.840 given that Prime for was announced way back in twenty seventeen. 315 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.120 Here's a quote, and then we'll start discussing it at 316 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.120 the start of the project. Perhaps due to the influence 317 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:16.320 of the legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, we 318 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:18.559 saw a lot of comments on the internet saying we 319 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:21.399 want to play an open world Metroid. The development team 320 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:25.039 told Famitsu however, Metroid's core element of increasing the amount 321 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:29.000 of explorable areas by unlocking powers is not very compatible 322 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.840 with the freedom to go anywhere from the beginning of 323 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.360 open worlds, and so they reconsidered and they kind of 324 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:36.879 tried to edit it there. But yeah, this is I mean, 325 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:39.039 I don't know if you play the game, if this 326 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.840 feels like what happened here. I think I've said as 327 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:43.799 much when I was talking about on the BombCast when 328 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.840 we were first discussing it after it launched, And this. 329 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.799 Feels like, yeah, I get it. 330 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.519 What does this mean though, when like, you know what 331 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:55.120 game you have, you put it out anyway understanding that 332 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:58.639 the development team solve the problems with it, and are 333 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.879 you going to give them another chance? I hope So 334 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:03.440 it sounds like they might. But yeah, are you surprised 335 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:03.919 by any of this? 336 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.879 Where were they looking that they saw people saying we 337 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:10.120 want to and will to make. 338 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.799 This is a This is a fair point, Lexie. I'm 339 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.360 sure those things were out there, I might have said, 340 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.720 at some point I could see a developer being like 341 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.600 Breath of the Wild moment for Metroid. I don't know 342 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.159 if that means open world necessarily. Yeah, yeah, that's that's right. 343 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:29.159 I suppose it would be very unfair of me to 344 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:33.600 say I think Veilguard is like an incredible achievement considering 345 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:35.919 how troubled its development was, and then go really hard 346 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.320 on Metroid Prime for considering how hard its development was. 347 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:44.559 But I watched that ending. Yeah, boy, even out of context, 348 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:50.919 even as someone who isn't really a Metroid fanho okay, 349 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:54.360 it's real bad. It's it's a real bad ending for 350 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:57.360 a video game, even without all the other stuff taken 351 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.519 into context. And I'm one of those people who would 352 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:04.440 traditionally say, like, I actually am not a huge fan 353 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:07.759 of Metroid vaneers and getting lost in games, Like I 354 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:11.680 just don't like the feeling of being lost. So it's 355 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:13.720 just generally not a genre that clicks for me. And 356 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:17.400 this seems like a version of that game that tries 357 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:21.440 to cater towards those tastes exactly a little bit, But 358 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.839 in the process of doing so, it does seem like 359 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:28.920 they have lost they they've lost the trail on what 360 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:32.960 they're they're actually like what people want from these games 361 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:35.200 and what these games are about and the feelings that 362 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.559 they are listed ish, So it just seems like Metroid 363 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:43.799 Prime for goes much longer distances between feeling, you know, 364 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:47.920 recreating the feeling of those first three games, and so, yeah, 365 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.519 I don't know, it's a shame. I hope they get 366 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:54.680 another chance. Retro is obviously like an incredibly talented studio, 367 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:57.200 and it would be nice for them to be able 368 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:00.359 to go back to developing some original stuff. Like when 369 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:02.799 you think about it, they really haven't put out a 370 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:04.880 lot of games in the last fifteen years. 371 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.799 And if you know, Gaming has had like constant interviews 372 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.720 with former Retro people over the last couple of years 373 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.880 that like documents ten to fifteen Retro projects that were 374 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.920 pitched or pitched and improved and like got further further 375 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.400 along and like they all got canceled. It's like, oh, 376 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.039 there's and I'm sure that's normal for a studio working 377 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:26.920 in this industry, but it's like for Retro it's notable 378 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:29.559 because they did not have a lot of alternative releases. 379 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:34.359 I suppose the big question now is like if this 380 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:36.920 Metroid doesn't hit a Nintendo kind of goes, okay, well, 381 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.039 we're not going to do Metroid for a bit. Are 382 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.680 they going to give them back Donkey Kong? Because Donkey 383 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.559 Kong seems to be Nintendo's new like thing of like, 384 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.720 this is what we're putting forward front and center, and 385 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.119 I don't know, they've moved away from the retro sensibilities 386 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.079 in some ways with Donkey Kong. So does Retro go 387 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.000 and make a new ip or work on something else? 388 00:18:58.039 --> 00:18:58.400 I don't know. 389 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.359 Yeah, they probably get back to pitching a bunch of 390 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.559 stuff and hoping Nintendo kind of gets it, which is 391 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:06.519 gonna be a rough spot because it seems like there's 392 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.799 a lot of not not necessarily misalignment, because again it's 393 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:14.000 probably a normal amount of of you know, misstarts for projects, 394 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:17.519 but it's a tough process regardless, and they're gonna have 395 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:19.000 to get back to that, and that's gonna be frustrated. 396 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:22.160 I think the reality here, though, is Metro Prime four 397 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:26.319 will sell kind of within parameters, and then Nintendo will 398 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:27.839 kind of be in the situation where they're like, we 399 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:31.359 let retro build the infrastructure to build a game like this, 400 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:34.759 Why don't we let them do it one more time 401 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:36.559