Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.
Speaker 2: This is Brian Uh sitting at his dining room table,
frustrated with technology.
Speaker 3: Uh big kungus with you, and.
Speaker 2: Uh sitting also at Tim's table, saying hey lady, over
and over and people are looking at him confused.
Speaker 4: Do a lady, zacubananas.
Speaker 2: Uh and sitting all the way across the internet in
her own home, thinking these guys are idiots.
Speaker 5: All of this is true, Carl and san Diego.
Speaker 3: And now your video froze for a second. I was
gonna give you ship for technical issues, but sucked it up.
Speaker 5: Now I'm pretty sure all the technical on your end
watch out.
Speaker 3: I can hang up on you in two ways right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Tim, and then just suck up the recording
even more for Wolf to have to deal with.
Speaker 2: I don't care. Tim wanted me and Zach to come
over and hang out because he was feeling lonely. And
it turns out we don't know how to in person
podcast anymore.
Speaker 3: I said, it's a lost art form, oka, I said,
I really thought i'd be able to send this up quickly,
and it's like, fuck me, man, it's been it's been
too long.
Speaker 2: We are here recording, continuing our retro review of Fresh Meat. Yeah,
whose turn?
Speaker 5: It is?
Speaker 3: My turn? Today we're going over episode eleven. This one
is called money or Friendship. This episode aired on August seventh,
two thousand and six, but it is not August seventh,
two thousand and six, so we have to go back
there in our in our li to do that. We'll
talk about things that happened on this date, the top
TV shows or American Idol, Dancing with the Stars CSI Miami.
I feel like those are two popular shows still, right,
American Idol and Dancing with the.
Speaker 5: Stars that you're talking about CSI Miami.
Speaker 4: This is American Idol still on, isn't it. I likes
that's been like canceled and then brought back, then canceled
and brought back.
Speaker 2: It's on ABC now, Okay.
Speaker 3: Top movies at the time, Talladagan, Knights, Barnyard, and Pirates
of the Caribbean, dead Man's Chest or is it Caribbean?
How do you guys say Caribbean?
Speaker 5: You asked this last time, Zach, how do you.
Speaker 2: Say, uh, got it?
Speaker 4: Caribbean?
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 4: But I say both.
Speaker 5: It's Caribbean if you're just talking about the place. But
if you're talking about the movie it's Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 3: Yep, I agree. Top songs we've gone through these. I
think formiscuous Hips, don't lie, Shoulder Lean. I don't know
about that one. I've never heard of that one. The
country song if You're going through Hell before the Devil
even knows. Don't know what that is either good song
and no notable blenz. This week just a recap of
pop culture shit.
Speaker 2: So that's it.
Speaker 3: Are we safely back in two thousand and six in
our minds?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all right?
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: This episode starts with Evan limping back to the house
freshly out of the hospital. He's putting on a brave
face for everybody that's there, but it is confessional. He
says it's so painful he wants to puke, and he's
a little worried he's going to do permanent damage if
he doesn't quit. But he's not gonna quit. He's going
to keep going. As far as the letter, what do
you guys think about this? It seems like people in
the house aren't fully convinced, But what do you guys think?
Speaker 6: People in the house seem to kind of know that
he has an issue, Like how I really want to
know how he was able to hide a hernia from
everyone that he was in the house with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this entire time.
Speaker 5: So people in the house seem to kind of know,
but not like really, no, I don't know, it's it's odd.
Speaker 3: I thought it was weird too. Yeah, Derek said that
there was a rumor floating around about his hernia, So yeah, Carl, yeah,
somebody knows somebody. There's like some rumblings, But it does
seem like the conversation is not revolving around that that
we see anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if they knew and just didn't realize
how serious it was. Like, up until rewatching this, I
don't think I've thought of hernia was that big of deal, Like, oh, yeah,
you're injured, but like you'll be fine in the long run.
But here and I haven't talked about like, oh, this
could actually kill you. I didn't realize is that serious.
And I wonder if the people in the house did either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could be true. Maybe, Like the start of
the season, he kept saying like I just got this hernia.
It's bothering me a little, and it gets way worse.
It's one of those like we'll never know, but it
is kind of an interesting situation. And then Coral comes back.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a hernia?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Me, neither.
Speaker 3: That seems like something athletic people get. I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm not athletics, Sana.
Speaker 3: I don't work hard enough to get one.
Speaker 2: I might have one kind of a bubble, a little
bit in my belly button.
Speaker 3: You just never know.
Speaker 2: Well, I brought it up to my doctor.
Speaker 4: My doctor was like, ah, the only thing I know
is living with a herniah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good wed.
Speaker 3: Now, okay, I don't know that. I don't know that.
When you, carl you had herria?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: No, yeah?
Speaker 2: How do they test women for hernias Carlon, Oh, that's
a good question.
Speaker 5: I mean, hernias are it's a hole in the adominal
like the wall of your abdominal muscle. It's the same
thing for men and women.
Speaker 2: But how do they test because there's a there's a
dude test that's very specific to dudes.
Speaker 3: Do you not know the dude test?
Speaker 4: I don't even know the dude test.
Speaker 3: Turn your head and cough.
Speaker 5: Talk me about a hemorrhoids.
Speaker 3: No, turn your head and cough is definitely hernia. That's
a it's a it's a junior high thing like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put their hands on your testicles and they
tell you to turn your head and cough.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh I thought they were just checking for like lumps
on your balls.
Speaker 3: Well, the lump is the herdia they're pushing up on,
like the your taint area, right, No, what kind of
doctor if you had between your balls and your ball there,
there's like putting slight pressure and you cough, and then
that's how they.
Speaker 2: Test you have been molested, sir.
Speaker 5: It's a hernia in that area.
Speaker 6: But like the hernias that he has is a hernia
literally in the abdominal like the front of your body.
Speaker 5: We all get hernias the exact same way I have
been earlier.
Speaker 2: But for males you can tell. You can tell because
like when they cough, there's a weird thing with the
balls that I don't know. I'm not even joking, Like
this is legit.
Speaker 5: Like I've heard the turn of your head and cough thing.
I always assumed that was more of a prostate exam
than anything else there, but.
Speaker 4: But it is.
Speaker 3: It's not. It's not the balls. It's a little behind
the balls, dude.
Speaker 2: So well, for someone who's been taking advantage of you, No,
because I've had a doctor just put his put two
fingers up next to the ball and be like go
to the other side and.
Speaker 3: Go was not thorough enough. He needed to he needs
You need either die or puket. Man, you gotta you
gotta push that tea, Zach, get ready your taint pushed
by a doctor?
Speaker 4: Oh no, se.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well hey there we go. Uh and now we're
back to coral. She did not get her testicles grabbed
in the hospital as far as we can tell, but
she's also back in the house and making a much
bigger deal of her ship than Evan is, even though
like her confessionals, she's like, Oh, I'm just trying to
dunplay it. No you're not. You're going all around the.
Speaker 2: House talking about To be fair, she just located their kneecap. Sure,
I would make a huge deal.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm not saying she's even exaggerating, like it looks
like she's in pain. But I don't like this part
where she's like, yeah, I'm trying to downplay so nobody knows.
Cut to her like talking to a whole room full
of people saying like, yeah, I fucking hurt my me
fucking popped out a socket and she.
Speaker 4: Came back on crutches. That's kind of hard to hide
as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her confessionals seemed like full of shit, whereas Evan
seemed like full of shit for a totally different reason.
All right, anyway, moving on, noted authoritarian supporter THEO Vaughan
reads the message about the challenge this time around, and
we see one short little clip of DM Lynette and Aviv.
They are chatting, getting close and sort of a line
together as just sort of new meat women. But this
is the first time we've seen of them sort of
chatting as far as I can.
Speaker 2: Tell, any other podcast calling a group of women new
meat it would be problematic.
Speaker 5: Especially following authoritarian.
Speaker 2: Especially talking about dudes foddeling each other's.
Speaker 3: Balls in context context sense. All right, guess with that,
we're already onto the challenge, smash its head and eat it. Yeah,
we're having a soundboard. If difficulties, we're gonna have that,
uh right away, or we're already at the challenge. And
TJ just says, hey, right away, Coral, Evan GTFO, you're
done by g.
Speaker 2: It's true, it would have been like what but.
Speaker 3: It's weird, right, This is a weird sort of like
normally they it's like after the commercial break, it's you're wondering,
are they really going to kick them off? This is
just pretty much DJ just saying tay straight up and
then commercial.
Speaker 2: Break, doctor said, can't do it no more?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, And it's it's one of those things like
they're so adamant about it. I feel like it's a
this is a liability issue. Yeah, we are not allowing
you guys to take to make the trip because like
we've seen it in other episodes and other seasons where
people have been badly hurt but they're still able to compete. Yeah,
because they're like they basically wave their rights to be
able to sue the company, which I don't know that
you can actually truly completely wave your rights on that,
like if you've got your if you seriously hurt yourself,
but I don't know, I am not a lawyer.
Speaker 3: But difference between like you hurt your foot versus this
hernia could fucking kill you, Yes, So I think that's
a b I bet they would have let KORL keep going, frankly,
because she's not gonna kill herself with a bust and knee,
you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, but I think I think you're right with
with Evan's hernia, and especially the way that he describes it,
that it's hemorrhaging and that the doctor has said, don't
do anything more. You can just tell how young he
is to be, Like, two hundred and thirty thousand dollars
split two ways is totally worth me, just like completely
severely injuring myself.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: That's not like I'm going to be spending that, you know,
one hundred and what thirteen thousand dollars on surgery and
recuperating and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, short sighted evan behavior.
Speaker 2: Dumb.
Speaker 3: But speaking of the producer, the producer does make it
appearance here. This is justin booth. We've heard it. We'll
talk about him, but I don't remember him on the show,
and now this is the first time I've actually seen
him as far as I can remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Evan's trying to plead his case. Hey, no,
the doctor said I could choose and all that stuff,
and Boos is like, uh no, like this is not
going to change. This is not a decision. It's going
to be reversed.
Speaker 4: So he's been going confessionals for a couple of days
now being like, yeah, this could kill me if it
gets worse, and I was like, well, I don't understand
why I can't keep going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty sickly, you know, when you relay it
out like that, it is pretty silly and obviously the
right move like this, this is what should have happened,
and it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Tina, for her part, says she's sad for Coral and Evan,
but she's excited because of the rest of the teams
now like have a shot, which is a good point.
And unlike today's game where like major changes like this
happen and they don't tell the remaining challenges what's going on.
They say right away, how the game is gonna change now? Uh?
And not much is the answer there. It's gonna be
the same game, same teams. They're not changing anything. The
only difference is that the final will only have three
teams instead of four. I'm guessing there was the fourth
place finisher that got no money that is now cut
and now there's only three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, easy.
Speaker 3: Easy peasy. And this challenge is called batten down the hatches, Zachy,
how do you play this game?
Speaker 4: I have no.
Speaker 2: I watch.
Speaker 5: You have to you have to give a you have
to give an dude.
Speaker 3: Well, I wish that I could, because but I had
planned on making somebody else do this, So I don't
have a definition of the game.
Speaker 2: Is this is the one where they go underwater and
have to go down?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? All I have here is Casey says to herself,
I need to step it up a notch. Maybe I
can do that before I vomit. Is this the one
where they're Oh no this I sai Wes and Casey
can't connect at the bottom. Oh this is the go
They both go down the ladders.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, Oh that's right, yep, yep, yeah.
Speaker 3: We're here now both they go down dangling ladders and
then they got to switch ladders and go back up.
Speaker 2: So yes, for those following along at home, we review
these and batches and we were doing six episodes today. Yeah,
and so we are completely flumming some which episode on?
Speaker 3: I think all of us did this last minute? When
did you watch your episodes? Carlin?
Speaker 5: I remembered that I needed to watch them at ten
thirty this morning.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so this morning, So I.
Speaker 5: Finished forty five minutes before we got onto this call.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, you a slacker too, I'm mine. I was
earlier than all you guys. I started last night at like.
Speaker 2: Ten, I finished. I finished about ten thirty this morning.
Speaker 3: So you guys are all slackers. Well that's this competition anyway.
And yes, Wes and Casey can't connect to the bottom.
They can't figure out how to switch ladders and eventually
give up.
Speaker 2: Does everybody look real stupid? Would you sit down and
try to do this?
Speaker 3: No? You should, Yeah you should.
Speaker 5: You should absolutely be standing on the bottom line and
trying to like force your thing to swing, and then yeah,
like Tina looks like an idiot, but she does eventually
like go back up a few rungs and realize that
she needs to knock it over. And then after that,
like everybody else gets it almost and they watch Wes
and Casey be complete morons. Casey's just sitting there like
sticking her leg out trying to uh have West grab it. Yeah,
Tina looks as no, they didn't. They gave it. They
gave it a shot.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: Tina, as they say, looked like she was humping the air.
She was making she was doing some weird ass on
that bottom line and then yeah, she finally went up
in a few rungs, and then everybody else like they
almost instantly got it, and it was within like what
like three or four minutes for people to go down,
switch and go up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cindy was watching this with me this morning and
she's she or somebody on the show, like you mentioned,
They're like, oh, it looks like she's humping in the air,
and I'm like, if that's what it looks like when
she's humping, like, I am terrified.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't get in an action.
Speaker 2: No, not like that, Jesus. She looks possessed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is another good example of like why
the late comers are advantage. They saw Wes really struggling.
They saw Tina figure it out, but it took her
a minute and then yeah, as you said, Carl, and
everybody else does the same thing. So it seems like
for the most part, the women go down about three
quarters and swing it to the men to grab and
then they do the switch that way, and yeah, that's it. Okay,
So after all of this, let's say my notes just
say Tina looks like an insane person. THEO and Shauna
they do okay, Wes and Casey. They finished at the bottom,
of course, but they decide that they can. Maybe this
is like the time that the tides are turning, and
maybe this is the time for some of the lesser,
the worst players, the weakest. That's what I that's the
better way to say it should gang.
Speaker 5: Up well on Before that, Wes and Casey DQ, but
they are not the only ones to DQ. Durrell and
Aviv also DQ because Darrell falls off the ladder.
Speaker 3: I didn't make a note of that, but yes, you're right, Yeah, weird.
It's weird to see Darrell not do well you know
in these No it's not. It was back then it
was weird to see.
Speaker 5: Back then it was weird, But now it's not surprising
at all because he doesn't do well on any of
them anymore.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 3: Actually, I take I make that, I take that back.
My note does say Darrell can't make up the ladder,
So I guess that conversation was before that one.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Derek and DM they win this.
Speaker 2: Competition, super excited about it too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they seem thrilled. And of course TJ says
that says, well, pick a team for exile, and that's
like the reality comes crashing down on them and they're
really struggling with this.
Speaker 5: Well, and DM seems to always be the person that, like,
when she has to pick someone, she was always so like,
oh no, like people aren't gonna like me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a typical dem and Derek response. Both
of them are just acting like dramatic yeah and silly.
H Derek wants Shane and Lynette. Diem is kind of
torn on who to throw in, but at the end
of the day they go Lynette and Shane. Yeah, so
Lynette's pissed.
Speaker 2: Well, I do find it interesting that Derek's like, look,
I can't say Darrell at all. He's my friend. And
then they start running down and he's like, it's got
to be Shane Lynette, and Dia was like, but she's
my friend, and he's like, well that doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is definitely you know, like the fresh meat
have less power on these teams. I think it's just
sort of like Derek's gonna Derek gets to make this call. Unfortunately.
Speaker 4: It makes sense, yeah, because Derek and Draw have been
friends for years, whereas Lynette and Dim have been friends
for like a week or two.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understood it too, like it is, it is
still dumb in that, like, okay, but they are also friends.
But at the same time, Yeah, like Durrell and Derek
have known each other for many years. They've seen each
other in these challenges many times, so it made sense,
but it was also double standard.
Speaker 3: Yep. So everybody's kind of throwing fits and upset avive,
Tina dim They're all kind of, you know, on different
they all have different opinions about what happened. And Derek,
for his point, is walking around saying, you can't tell
me that wasn't a power move, Like it's a big
fucking deal. But it's not right. This is a weird
This is a kind of kind of a weak move
to throw Lynette and Shane. They're not powered teams.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember, because like I didn't watch these
so for me, Shane's never like a big player, so
doesn't a big deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they weren't a big team that they were doing well.
I mean they were on the kind of the top
half of that pack, but top or top half of
the of the house. But yeah, because they I mean
they were kind of they were kind of dark horse
top half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but they're also sort of disconnected and stuff.
I don't know. This just didn't seem like a big
This didn't seem like a big move. This seemed like
Derek wanted to turn it into one because people were
upset about it.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's one of the bigger ones of
the season though, just because you know, everyone's just been
thrown in West and casing kind of the people on
the bottom and Dan. This is a fresh shot, kind of,
like we said, of someone that's kind of like in
the middle to like upper portion.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, that's it for the challenge. Now we're already
on the nominations.
Speaker 2: Don't say my name, bitch.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's basically no deliberation here. It's a really short one.
Tina says that even though her and West kind of
talked about forming a weaker Teams alliance, she's not gonna
be able to do that because he is talking smack.
I don't know why that would matter, but that's what
Tina says.
Speaker 5: He's doing that all season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because Durell calls him out at the nominations.
He's just like, well, this guy's been running around talking,
so I'm just gonna go. Wes and Casey, and as
we know, that starts the dominoes falling, and so Tina
and Kenny is already like, oh shit.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's pretty much about how that happened. Yeah, so
it's gonna be Wes and Casey. And speaking of things
that haven't aged well in this show, Wes says, I'm
not scared to go up against a gay guy and
a skinny girl.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 3: It was like kind of bristly when you hear.
Speaker 2: It, that was a little cringey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was that. And Casey and d M chat.
Casey is sort of on board with this weak team strategy,
which like, of course she is, and Lynette says that
she's not ready to go home yet. She's hoping for
the pardon power, like what Trump is gonna use with
Juliane Maxwell the sex traffic. And that's the end of
the episode. Hey, you know what, I don't have much
of a platform. Well for him to use the one
I had, It is what it is. Carlin loves it too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just I'm so annoyed with the fact that
she might be getting your pardon.
Speaker 3: It's you're talking about Lynette.
Speaker 5: No oh, Elaine Maxwell, Okay not Lynette.
Speaker 2: Wait a time?
Speaker 3: All right, guess well that's it for this episode.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's what happens when these episodes are only twenty minutes, apiece, I.
Speaker 3: Only take us less than twenty minutes and we'll talk
about them. Yeah the end.
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Speaker 2: Pre shows after shows, years upon years of stuff said
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Speaker 5: It's oh, thank you guys.
Speaker 2: All right, Zach. Do you have social media stuff?
Speaker 4: No, but I have the secret scene at the end, yes,
tell us about our uh so secrets. At the end,
we see theo in the swimming pool and right as
a bunch of like shampoo and soap, and he's in there.
He's washing his hand in the swimming pool, washing his body.
He's got his tooth brush, his teeth, and then we
cut to Evan and West being like Evan's like, quest,
did you see that he's shower he's bathing in the pool.
He has bathing in the pool. Well, she's like, oh,
that's cool, that's going. It doesn't seem to believe him.
And then they look out He's like, oh my gosh,
he's actually doing it. They're like, yeah. The he says
that the showers are too disgusting, so he's just gonna
wash in our pool every day.
Speaker 3: It's a fast ruining community things for everybody. Yeah, that
seems like tracks right right.
Speaker 4: I would not want to go swimming in there after
it's filled with shampoo and so waiting.
Speaker 3: You see what they do to our oceans and rivers, Zach,
what else do we usually do at the end of
the show.
Speaker 4: A quote?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't have a quote. For some reason.
I feel like we're missing something, but I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 5: I feel like we're missing something to you, but I
don't remember it as locket.
Speaker 3: We're done, complete episode.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't remember how I usually signed off for some reason,
my brain is just melting the start and as TJ said,
blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Perfect