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Speaker 1: It's business time, baby. You are listening to Solo Monster

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Sounds Off. I love your solo Mama monster, dude, I

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want your soulier a woman.

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Speaker 2: You got grown ass wrestlers in the back going on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Come over here, heart? Is that Pet Patterson? You have legs?

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Speaker 2: The weekend I was ninety nine percent positive it was

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just chessed up. Now I have been begging him for

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a job on every every platform I can, and I

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would have know the reason why he won't part.

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Speaker 1: This is episode nine to seventy two of the Solemn

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Monster Sounds Off for this Sunday, July nineteenth, twenty twenty six.

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I saw the Odyssey this week, not in the way

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that Christopher Nolan intended for it to be. Seed. See,

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there's only twenty five theaters in the entire country that

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have the ability to show it in IMAX seventy millimeter,

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which is what he shot this on. Uh, you've got

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three o'clock in the morning showings at theaters all across

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the country selling out. There is not a seat to

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be had. Meanwhile, you could walk into any eight pm

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showing of the new Moana movie and you can have

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your pick of where you want to sit. It's so empty,

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but it's crazy, twenty five theaters across the entire country.

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So I saw it in Limax, which was fine. I'm

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sure it's not the same experience. I see photos from

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some of these theaters that have the seventy millimeter screens,

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and you know it just it looks so different, it

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looks so much better. But what are you gonna do?

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So I went to go see it really, really good.

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You know, Nolan, he earned a lot of points with

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me because The Dark Knight is my favorite film. And

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somebody pointed this out last night that the eighteen year anniversary.

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I guess yesterday, since The Dark Knight was released. It's

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still my favorite movie of all time. And I haven't

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seen all of his movies, but like this one was

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getting a lot of hype and it's Nolan. I'm like,

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all right, let me go see it. So you can

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imagine my surprise when the movie begins. And if you

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know what the Odyssey is about, right, it's a period piece.

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And the movie begins and the first person that I

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see is Travis Scott and yes, I had fiend, fiend,

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fiend in my head as I'm sitting here watching this movie.

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I'm like, what the hell is he doing on my screen?

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That was quite the surprise, But it's really good.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't judging it against the source material or anything

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like that, because I mean, my god, I haven't read

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any of that stuff since since school, so I wasn't

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judging it against that. I was just judging it based

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on whether or not I thought it was a good

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movie or not. I will say you the horror fan

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in me, I definitely would like to see Nolan do

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a horror film at some point. There is a cyclops

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monster scene in this movie, and there's a witch scene.

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I'm not going to give anything away from them, but

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I was certainly smiling as the horror fan of me

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was tickled by some of the stuff that they had

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there in those scenes. Very loud, some of these, some

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of these, I don't know if it was an IMAX

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thing or just a Nolan thing, but some of these scenes,

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my god, it was so loud and the seat and

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the theater were vibrating. I wasn't even in the four

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D X showing. Oh my god, I can't even imagine

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what a four DX showing of this movie would be like.

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With all the boats on the seas and everything in

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the storms rocking back and forth. I wouldn't be able

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to get out of bed the next day. But anyway,

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so go see it for yourself. You can judge for yourself.

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I thought it was really good. Ignore all the noise

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on social media. Social media is not a real place.

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X is not a real place. Look, it's a long movie.

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bored by it, and that's a perfectly valid criticism. I

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was a little skeptical myself. It's almost three hours long.

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never bored. The movie actually kind of breeze by fairly

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just don't base your decision to go or not based

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on some dumb shit chatter on social media. We got

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to main event last night, either that or the NBA

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at the end. There for a little bit, but we'll

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going to get it here today. And the finale, not

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of the season, but the three episode arc in Dark

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impractical because of being state owned. I'm certain that holding

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a monthly event would turn a great number. I can

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imagine eighty thousand plus at Jordan Hare Stadium, an Alabama boy,

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I see, thank you, Russell. There is no way they

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would do eighty thousand fans there. I just dude, they're

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struggling to put They're struggling to put thirty thousand in

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US Bank Stadium for two nights of SummerSlam. Do you

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think they're gonna put eighty thousand fans in Jordan Hare Stadium,

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let alone put up numbers like that in different college

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stadiums every month. You know, college football is a different

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beast man. College football is a religion down South. They

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can put eighty thousand people in the stadium. WWE ain't

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putting eight thousand people in that stadium. But happy birthday, brother,

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Russell just turned twenty eight. I hope it's a great

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twenty eight. Here's to twenty eight more and another twenty

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eight after that. The five star kid Joshua Forornville could

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check out his JDF retro Games channel on YouTube now

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with the tagline reject modern gaming, return to retrogaming. Well

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you say that now until GTA six drops, But he

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says it's because modern gaming is too expensive nowadays a

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lot of things are too expensive these days compared to

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years ago. Gaming is certainly one of them. But go

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check out the new channel JDF retro games content every Saturday.

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Thank you, Joshua. And last, but certainly not least, jubilant,

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Jessica from Glendale, Arizona writes in wanting to wish her

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husband Tony a very happy birthday. She says he's a

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wonderful human being and she's proud of him for all

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he's done to change his career, going from tech to teaching.

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How about that? So, yes, I want to wish Tony

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a very happy birthday as well. I hope it's a

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great one. WWE announced dates for fourteen upcoming shows, and

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and Triple A. This is the second one that they've done,

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their first one since September when Dominic Mysterio won the

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Triple A Mega Championship from l e Hodel Vikingo, who

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that's that's going to be at least a good probably

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eight or nine months before we see him back. They

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just vacated the Triple A Latin American title if they're

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going to be holding a tournament for it to crown

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a new champion. But what's notable about this is the

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date and the location of This World's Collide show Saturday,

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September twenty sixth, in Chicago, Illinois at the All State Arena.

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They just ran the All State Arena last week and

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they're already going back. Why are they going back so quickly,

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the same day that AEW is running its all out

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which is just outside Chicago. This is coming off them

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scheduling an NXT Great American Bash show last month to

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run head to head with Forbidden Door, and the announcement

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of an NXT heat Wave show the same day as

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aw All in London next month. But they're not competition, everybody,

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remember that, they're definitely not competition. So fans in Chicago

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they're going to have to decide which show to attend

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right now, all out of scheduled for a seven pm

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will be in Chicago that Friday because House of Glory

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is running a show in Chicago on September twenty fifth,

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so that is going to be a very busy weekend

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of wrestling. We'll see if Tony bumps up the start time.

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They've already got forty one hundred tickets out for that show.

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I hope not keep it right where it is. Stand

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your ground, especially since I won't be home in time

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to watch it live. If he does move it up

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earlier in the day, let me be flying home that day,

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getting one or two big names on there. Punk is

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with them. WWE also announced last night that while WrestleMania

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forty three will be held in Riodd, Saudi Arabia. Next year,

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take place on which night, but there will be a

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think about scheduling any events of their own on either

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of those nights after WrestleMania, and look, Tony Khan could

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do it. He could schedule something for either night. Since

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then WWE would probably just counter program those shows too.

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part of the calculus here, I mean, how much more

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evidence do you need? Right? Have you not been paying attention?

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and I mean the wrestle media weekend stuff, whatever their

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actual motives are here, that's their weekend. They could do

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whatever they want. But like again, the world's collide stuff,

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Like how many more examples of this do we need?

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And honestly, like, if you're Tony Kahan, you just stand

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your ground, just you know, full steam ahead, straight ahead,

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do your thing, and just ignore all the noise because

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the best thing you can do is no sell it.

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There's really not much else he can do. Just try

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to put on the best possible show he can and

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you know, you know, his audience is loyal enough they'll

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stick with him on that, but beyond that, there's not

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a whole there's not a whole hell of a lot

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he could do about it. But it's becoming more and

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This week Adam Pierce. The big news coming out of

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partially torn meniscus, and so as such, an interim Women's

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Nya Jacks. I can't even call it a match. I

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don't know what the fuck it was. But she qualified

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over Nya on Friday, so she's in, which means, by

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the way, that the likely singles match, it wasn't announced yet,

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but the likely singles match between Charlotte and Jade, they're

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now absorbing that into this ladder match. So Charlotte hasn't

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qualified yet, but she will. They're giving Nya a second

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chance because Charlotte interfered in the match. Very unfair. So

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Nya and now will wrestle Charlotte on SmackDown this upcoming week.

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And gee, I wonder what will happen there other person

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who's officially qualified as Tiffany Stratton. So those are the

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two names, two of the five that we know of

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so far. This will be the first interim champion NWWE

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since JD McDonough in NXT and twenty twenty when he

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was the Cruiserweight Champion. He was not able during COVID

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to travel to the United States, so they held a

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tournament to crown an interim champion that was eventually won

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by Santos Escobar. I hate it. I hate it the

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interim stuff, not the ladder match. The ladder match is fine,

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but I think the interim label is completely unnecessary. There's

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no need for it, literally no need for it. They're

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justifying it by saying, unlike say, when Seth Rollins got

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hurt last year and he was stripped immediately stripped of

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the World Heavyweight Championship, they're saying that, well, Ria is

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very close to returning. They just don't have an exact date.

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Yet right, So, I mean it could be the week

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after SummerSlam, it could be a month from now. We

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don't know. But she's close, so what who cares? What

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they need to do is reinstate the old thirty day rule.

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If you're unable to defend the title at least once

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within a period of thirty days or due to injury,

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the title should be vacated and held up for a

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new champion to be crowned until such time that the

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former champion can return, and then they can challenge to

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get their belt back. I don't give a shit that

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UFC does this. I don't give a shit that Tony

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Kahan has done it in aw and he's done it

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with Ring of Honor. I don't care. It is stupid, stupid.

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The ladder match, though, is a great attraction for Summer Slam,

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although bouncing j C. Jane right out of the qualifying

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rounds is a very curious choice. I don't agree with that.

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I mean, you got five spots open, you're trying to

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get new people over. She should have gotten one of

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those spots. Not saying that she had to win the

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ladder match, although she could have, but I'm not saying

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she had to win it, but to not even be

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in it, I think is ridiculous. So that's the update now,

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because for weeks we had nothing said about Rhea Ripley,

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and at least now we have some sort of update.

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They had him say something, because what are we two

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weeks away from SummerSlam. They had to make some kind

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of decision. If they're going to have qualifying matches, they

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have to start now and they're gonna be continuing over

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the next couple of weeks. Meanwhile, on Raw, we had

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the contract signing for SummerSlam where the Roman reigns and

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Seth Rawlins, which I thought was a really good closing

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segment infinitely better than that boring segment with Rawlins the

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week before when Roman wasn't there. We'll talk more about

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Roman and Seth here in a little bit when I

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talk about Saturday Night's main event. The other thing on

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the show, we had Oba Feme come out. Brock Lesner

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and Paul Hayman were there. Brock, I mean, did virtually nothing.

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He just showed up and he left. That's what he does.

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Oba comes out and Oba gets on the mic and

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he's looking at Paul Hayman and he says to Hayman,

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you and I both know because Hayman and his promo

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before Oba strutted out to the ring, had mentioned that,

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you know, Oba rule away his World Championship match at SummerSlam,

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which again it seems like that is in fact what

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happened here. There was no delaying of the title shot.

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He threw it away to get brock Lesnar at SummerSlam,

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and so Ober responded and said, you and I both

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know that had I taken that chance, had I taken

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that opportunity to compete for a world championship at Summer Slim,

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your client would have cost me.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why we're getting this weeks later, but

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put that on the side. I'm listening to him, and

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again through the lens of k Fabe, I'm listening to

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him talk about this. This big intimidating guy comes down

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to the ring. Right, he beat brock Lesner in four

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minutes at WrestleMania. He fears no man. Right, he's the ruler,

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he's the king. He comes out there and he's like, well,

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you know I had to throw away my championship match

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because you and I both know that brock Lesnar would

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have interfered in the match and tried to cost me

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the title. Well, it doesn't really help that. One of

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the reasons that you think that brock Lesnar would have

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gotten involved in your shit is because you went on

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television for weeks after clash in Italy where you lost.

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By the way Brock beat you, he got his revenge.

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You went out on television week after week calling him names.

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You called the man a bitch. Now you're worried that, well,

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you know, he probably would have interfered in my business,

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and so I had no choice. I decided to get

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ahead of the situation and be proactive and throw away

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my guaranteed championship match when he has nobody to blame

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but himself for feeling that way. Meanwhile, brock Lesner never

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showed up during any of his King of the Ring matches,

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but in his mind, well, he was gonna wait until

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summerslim in Minneapolis, and he was gonna cost me the championship.

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Is he that afraid of brock Lesner that even if

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Brock tried to interfere, he doesn't think he could fend

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him off. Like, just everything about what he was saying,

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as far as an explanation for why you would ditch

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a guaranteed world title match that you earned by winning tournament.

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It doesn't wash like it's such a poor explanation that

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they would have been better off not saying anything at all.

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I really, I mean, I just think it didn't do

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him any favors here. I'm not gonna kill Oba. It's

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a forgotten line in a promo. The next time he

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struts out to the ring as he did in Madison

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Square Garden last night on the pre show, everyone is

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gonna just do the strut and they'll get to chant

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for Oba. So to them it doesn't matter. They don't

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give a shit. But I just thought that was a

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very dumb explanation. We had a Gauntlet match. It's to

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crown a number one contender for Penta's Intercontinental title. The

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winner would get a championship match at SummerSlam, and they

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had one job coming into the Gauntlet. All they had

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to do was send Chad Gable to Minneapolis, and that's

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exactly what they did. And it will be Chad Gable

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facing Penta at SummerSlam until he throws away his guarantee

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championship match out of fear that Russev might interfere in

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his match. I'm waiting for that story to develop on TV.

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Even though Chad Gable got the win here in this Gauntlet,

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Javon Evans is the one who got the shine. He

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entered third, he outlasted Dominic Mysterio, Dragon Him and Dragon

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Lee had a hell of a sprint and then he

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was doing okay against Russev, but in the end he

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fell to Rusev. Gable then entered, he beat Russev. Then

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he beat Eat the Page back to back and got

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the shot. So, like I said, they had one job.

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They did exactly what they needed to do, and it

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sets up what should be an awesome match now for SummerSlam,

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and there should be a title change. He's been chasing

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this championship off and on now for at least three years, right,

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maybe more. When did they do the Gunther matches two

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years ago? Three years ago? I'd lost track at this point.

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He was just baby faced Chad Gable back then. He's

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gone through quite the transformation since then. It's time. I

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love Penta, It's time and if there was ever a

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place to do it, I mean again, the timing coming

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off of the match he had in Triple A and

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being where they're going to be in Minnesota for SummerSlam.

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To me, there could be no other outcome. We also

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got a teaser video for the return of the former

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Colin Cassidy Big Cast, the former Big Bill from AAW

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who let his contract expire, left the company to go

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back to WWE. We got our first vignette. We saw

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his silhouettes, we saw glimpses of his face. They had

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some old clips spliced in of fan signs in the crowd,

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soft and all the stuff with him and Endze, although

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Enzo was never shown, and so that got some people

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talking thinking that maybe Enzo is not coming in, or

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maybe Enzo's going to be doing something separate. I mean, look,

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there was talk about Enzo doing or being brought back

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to do stuff in NXT. It would be very strange

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to bring back, you know, Big Casts and Enzo after

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all these years, but not together in some way. That

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would be very very strange. I mean, I'll believe that

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when I see it. I suppose it's possible they could

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keep them separated. I would just find that very hard

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to believe. I think it's going to be very hard

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for them to resist a reunion like a tag team

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reunion for a few months. But look, I mean, if

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the idea here is that Bill's going to come in

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as a single, I'm all for it. You know you've

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heard me talk about this ad nauseum now for weeks.

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You're putting a ceiling, You're putting a cap on what

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this guy could do. If all you're going to do

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is bring him in as part of a tag team

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because you have no real tag team division, bringing him

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in as a single and maybe having Enzo with him

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as a manager or a mouthpiece, I think that's a

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much better idea. But if they're going to bring these

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guys in as a tag team, you need more tag

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teams to really heat up the division. I saw a

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story this week that Center and Saint, the team of

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Travis Williams and Judas Icarus, they requested and received their

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release from TNA this week. They had been with the

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company since twenty twenty four. They had all of four

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matches for them this year, so you could add them

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to the list of names who wanted out of their cage.

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If WWE was serious about rebuilding its tag team division,

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and it doesn't appear that they really are considering some

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of the teams they've let go, although I'm sure that

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had more to do with what they were being paid

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than anything else. But if they're serious about wanting to

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rebuild this tag team division, they wouldn't just be bringing

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back Enzo more in big casts. They would be bringing

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in a young team like Center and Saint. I'd be

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all over that. I'd snatch them right up, and I

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would look for more teams to do the same. Saturday

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Night's Main Event took place last night in Madison Square Guard.

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I would call it the weakest card of any Saturday

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Nights Main event that they've done since they brought the

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show back a couple of years ago. But the last

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one wasn't that strong either, and the one before that

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had three matches, so I can't even really say that.

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But for the first time in nineteen years, Madison Square

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Garden played host to a Saturday Night's Main event. Time

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was way back in two thousand and seven, three months

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before I gave birth to the sound off A beautiful

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bouncing baby boy who's all grown up. Now you know

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he's a sophomore in college. Now did you know that

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he is? Let's see that card? Back in seven, I

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jotted this Down had Batista and Cain against Finley and

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the Great Collie. Not a great start, John Cena against

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Carlito a little bit better, Cmpunk and the Boogeyman against

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John Morrison and Big Daddy v Oh my God and

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Evander Holyfield and Matt Hardy ended in a no contest

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in a boxing match. Boy, WWE has not been kind

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to MSG when it comes to these shows, have they

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not at all? As someone in the live chat said

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last night, it was a show of all time. That's

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the best way to describe it. If you missed it,

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you missed nothing of any real consequence outside of the

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tag team match with Punk and Cody, which at least

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had implications for SummerSlam and a Nick Alldos return to

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cost Gunther a championship opportunity. And Sammy Zay as well,

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who really got a raw deal last night. But I

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said coming into this this was going to be a

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one match show. That's what I said on Friday night

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during the SmackDown review. This is going to be a

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one match show, and that one match delivered. I thought

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that was a really good tag team match. Fatal Influence.

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Allen Henley and Laney reed they are the new women's

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Tag team champions. They picked up the win over Page

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and Bribella. There was a terrible spot there at the end.

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It was the finish of the match where Jessica Carr

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was the referee and there was a spot where jac

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Jane interfered to reverse a roll up. Supposedly she didn't

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see it, the referee didn't see it. Bullshit. I mean,

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she was right possible that she didn't see it, so

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it just came off very poorly, and I think Page

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actually went on social media and she said, Becky was right.

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This referee is terrible. Jessica Carr. Man, what is what

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00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,480
is going on with Jessica Carr? This was the obvious

472
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:17,960
ending here, I mean, could go no other way. Fatal influence,

473
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000
especially after j C Jane got beat on SmackDown last night,

474
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,640
couldn't even qualify for the latter match at Summers. Lembia

475
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,759
had to throw these women a bone, give them something,

476
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:28,680
so now they're the women's tag team champions. That was

477
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,319
the obvious outcome. Dan Housen and j D McDonough they

478
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,559
had a no disqualification match and this was all the

479
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,680
hijinks that you would expect from a Dan Housen match,

480
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,400
especially once they made it no DQ. But on SmackDown

481
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,559
the night before, Dan Housen said that he had some

482
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,759
backup and it was going to come in the form

483
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,200
of a cat, and he showed a stuffed animal, a

484
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,079
stuffed animal, cat in a cage. And so I heard that,

485
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,880
and of course, I mean, I know enough about the

486
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,160
Knicks to know, oh cats, because I was expecting that

487
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,319
there were going to be so New York Knicks players

488
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:04,599
involved here. And once it became clear that Jalen Brunton

489
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,559
was going to be doing something with Roman Reigns, this

490
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:10,200
was a below his pay grade here, I was like, well, okay,

491
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,000
they'll have some other player or players come out to

492
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:15,680
help Dan Housen. As soon as he started talking about cat,

493
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,839
I got people in the fucking, fucking chat on Friday. Oh, Ernest,

494
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:21,640
the cat miller going to come back? Is the cat

495
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,960
Stacy Carter are going to show. I'm like, what, people

496
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,599
are out of your mind? It's cats, It's Karl Anthony Towns.

497
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,559
And so they had the cloning machine and at one

498
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:34,039
point during the match, Dan Housen's not doing too well

499
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,079
and he goes down the aisle to the cloning machine.

500
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,079
He's got the little cage with the stuffed animal in

501
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,240
and he throws it in there, and then who pops

502
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,440
out of the cloning machine. Carl Anthony Towns, who plays

503
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,960
for the New York Knicks. You're reigning NBA World champions.

504
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,039
This man is a giant legit seven feet tall, and

505
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:54,880
they shot this in such a way that made him

506
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,839
look even bigger. As he walked down to the ring,

507
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,039
he stepped over the top rope like fucking on and

508
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:05,480
he gave JD mcdonnagh this incredible chokeslot, which was all McDonough.

509
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,200
You know, Towns didn't have to do a whole hell

510
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,519
of a lot. He did his part, but this was

511
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:13,559
JD McDonough going up and man, he got folded up

512
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,319
on this choke slam. He choke slamb Dom through a

513
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,160
slim gym table in the ring and he helped Dan

514
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,160
Housen pick up the win. This was the crowd pleasing

515
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,680
comedy match of the night with the Knicks cameo that

516
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,480
popped the live crowd. This is the only city where

517
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:31,640
this would have worked, by the way, in terms of that, So,

518
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,400
I mean, look, this was it was fine. It was fine.

519
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:39,279
It was what it was supposed to be. Then we

520
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,920
had Lyra Valkyria and Bailey. I was very surprised they

521
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,839
added this match to this show. This felt like something

522
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,160
they would throw out there on Raw next week or something.

523
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,480
So they gave them some shine on. What would you

524
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:52,279
even call this, I mean, a Saturday Nights may have

525
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,279
been even considered a PL I guess it would be No.

526
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,200
I mean, it's on a streaming service that you gotta

527
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,799
pay for. Almost all of their programming now it was

528
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:02,759
on a screaming service you have to pay for except

529
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:06,960
that XT I guess SmackDown. Well the smack now you

530
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,599
still got to pay for cable if you want USA Network.

531
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,680
CW is on over the AIRTV at this point, that's

532
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,960
the only thing you could get from WWE without paying

533
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,519
for it. Whatever I mean, Saturday Night's main event, it's

534
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,559
a lesser pl So they gave them some shine on

535
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,400
there Madison Square Garden. This was a big stage for them,

536
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,519
and in the opening it had to be the opening

537
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:33,519
minute of the match, maybe ninety seconds, Bailey inadvertently blasted

538
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,200
Lyra right in the face, right in the nose, with

539
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:40,279
an elbow that opened her up. Because Lyra was crouched

540
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,359
down on her knees on the floor outside kind of

541
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:44,839
covering up. And when Bailey went to pick her up

542
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,759
and she got up, you could see the blood splatter,

543
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000
little drops and some not so little drops of blood

544
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,880
all over the mats outside, and yeah, the referee tried

545
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,839
to clean her up and check her out, and it

546
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,000
kind of paused the action there a couple of time

547
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,480
times during the match. There were some hurky jerky spots

548
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,279
there for a little bit, I think while Lyra was

549
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,920
trying to kind of get her bearings about her. But

550
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:10,440
as a match, I thought it was pretty damn solid

551
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,200
what they were able to put together. And Lyra beat

552
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,240
her clean. She beat her clean with a bulldog choke.

553
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:21,039
She's been watching some Moxley And the referee called for

554
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,480
the stoppage and Lyra Valcarria picks up the win, which

555
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:25,640
was very important because Lyra is the one who just

556
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,440
turned heel, so you got to get her over as

557
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,720
a heel. There's no reason for Bailey to win this match.

558
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,720
And then when the match was over, she reapplied the

559
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:35,599
choke and then she removed the top part of the

560
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,440
ring steps outside so he had only the flat part

561
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,079
of it and she dropped her on it with the

562
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,519
night Wing, and this has a lot of people speculating,

563
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:49,039
I think prematurely about Bailey's demise and WWE, and is

564
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,039
that her last match? Is she on her way out?

565
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,279
I happened to think if the stories are accurate about

566
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:57,160
her contract coming up for expiration this year, we don't

567
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,680
have a date. We don't know when. Yeah, her contract

568
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,640
may I run through the end of the year for

569
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,599
all we know. So in the absence of that, it's

570
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,920
it's impossible to know, you know, whether or not she's

571
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,039
at the end of her run here or what's going

572
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:16,440
on contractually. My belief personally is that if that is

573
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,559
true and her contract is up, sometime in the next

574
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:23,119
several months, she will be gone from WWE and she

575
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,799
will go to AW. That was the one name I

576
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,480
singled out at the beginning of the year when I

577
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:31,480
did my predictions. It just feels to me like, unless

578
00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:35,519
she's just married to this idea of staying in WWE

579
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,599
because it's been her home for so long, and she

580
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,039
likes the people that she works with, and she wants

581
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:44,880
to help elevate, you know, newer talents, and then maybe

582
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,559
she wants to transition into some sort of coaching role,

583
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,319
which I could absolutely see her doing. I mean, she

584
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:55,039
has these these all women's loadstone seminars that she's doing.

585
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:58,799
She's really given a lot back, you know, to women's

586
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,279
wrestling in that regarding and can be a very valuable

587
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:05,559
asset to WWE or AW or anywhere. Frankly that she

588
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,200
wants to go work, But in AW I think it

589
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,920
would give her a new lease on life. Obviously, you

590
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,920
have the Mercedes factor. Is Mercedes in her ear telling her, Hey,

591
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,039
the water is pretty good over here, come on over

592
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:20,960
to this side. Plus, then they could work together. But

593
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,440
look at all the other women that she would be

594
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,240
able to work with.

595
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:23,759
Speaker 2: Now.

596
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: I know she's very friendly with Chris Statlander. That would

597
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,559
be potentially a great match. All these new faces that

598
00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,480
Bailey would be able to get in the ring with

599
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:34,440
and work with. I think it would be good. Sometimes

600
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,759
it's good. Like a baseball player, just a change of scenery.

601
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,119
Playing for a different team sometimes can make all the

602
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,680
difference in the world, unless it's the Mets, then you

603
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,640
play worse. But I still feel that way. I still

604
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,240
feel like Bailey is very likely going to be gone,

605
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,119
and it's just a matter of when. I didn't get

606
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,759
the sense that this is going to be the last

607
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:55,640
time we ever see her. It's probably the first of

608
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,759
a series of matches that these two were going to have.

609
00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:00,079
But if it was to be the last time that

610
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,039
we saw her, look at what she did here. Other

611
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:06,279
than you know, possibly breaking this woman's nose and busting

612
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,920
her open, she went in there and she put her over.

613
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,720
She put her over in a major way, and that's

614
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:14,519
big for Lyra. I wasn't totally sold on Lyra as

615
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,119
a heel. I still think the jury is out, but

616
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:20,519
what I've seen from her so far it looks promising.

617
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:24,640
I think that she probably can pull it off. Wwe

618
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,319
is going to have to really get behind her and

619
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,880
just again consistently feature her on the show and give

620
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,680
her stuff to work with. But I like what I'm

621
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,039
seeing so far. It's certainly a lot more interesting than

622
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,279
whatever the hell she was doing or just not doing

623
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,079
on television over the last several months. We had CM

624
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:46,880
Punk and Cody Rhoades. The real main event of this

625
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,799
show taking on Gunther and Sammy Zaine with a stipulation

626
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920
that we found out about on Friday, which is first

627
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,599
of all, Gunther was not suspended or fired after beating

628
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
up the general manager of the show. We were told

629
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,839
that that was by the request of Nick Aldis himself,

630
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:05,440
who did not want to screw up the main event

631
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:09,400
that he had made for this show. If Gunther and

632
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,519
Sammy's Ain could win, they would be added to the

633
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,160
main event at Summerslim for the WWE Championship to make

634
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,440
it a fatal four way. Now, the Gunther and the

635
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,279
all this stuff to me made it pretty clear that,

636
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:23,680
you know, his team wasn't winning this match. I did

637
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,000
like the idea of them matting the stipulation because all

638
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,720
of a sudden, now there's something on the line. This

639
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:29,759
isn't just a tag team match. It's a tag team

640
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,319
match that has implications for the main event of Summer Slim.

641
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:34,359
So I like that. And there were a lot of

642
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,880
people who, you know, didn't think of the Nick all

643
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,799
this factor, and they thought, man, we're gonna get a

644
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,559
fatal four way, right, It only makes sense. All four

645
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,920
of these men have been feuding in different ways, and

646
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,519
Sammy's Ain, My god, what's he going to do at Summerslim.

647
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:49,720
He has to be in that match. So you had

648
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:51,880
a lot of people probably buying on the near falls

649
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,559
and believing that it was going to be a four way,

650
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:55,720
and they were probably shocked, you know, when Punk and

651
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:58,599
Cody went over. I wasn't, but I thought the match

652
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,920
was really really good. I mean, and they got out

653
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,039
of the gate right away. They picked up where they

654
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:05,640
left off on Friday, that big brawl to close out

655
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,360
the show. It was NonStop and never really slowed down.

656
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,760
The crowd was hot for it, and I just thought

657
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,880
it was a really well worked tag team match, some

658
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,760
great near falls down the stretch, and in the end,

659
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:22,519
Nick All this makes a surprise appearance and he clobbers

660
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,639
Gunther in the head with the WWE Championship because there

661
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:27,519
was a REF bump. Boy, I guess it's a good

662
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:29,440
thing that there was a ref bump in this match.

663
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,320
Did Nick All this really need to wait though for

664
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,880
a REF bump? He's the GM. He could just order

665
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,039
Charles Robinson, don't you dare call for the bell. I'll

666
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:45,079
fire you. This is now a no disqualification match. What's

667
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,079
the point of having power if you're not going to

668
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:51,400
abuse it? I mean, come on. But thankfully for him,

669
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,760
there was a ref bump. Ref didn't see it he

670
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,880
walloped Gunther in the head. He staggered backwards right into

671
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,840
a GTS and Gunther got pinned. Gunther got pinned by

672
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,840
Cody Rhodes, which continues a recurring theme, by the way,

673
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,880
which is that Gunther cannot beat Cody Rhoads. He could

674
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,559
not beat Cody Rhods at Crown Jewel two years ago.

675
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,320
He could not beat Cody Rhods at Clash in Italy.

676
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,199
He could not beat Cody Rhodes back on SmackDown on

677
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,360
the nineteenth, not once, but twice because they restarted the match,

678
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,039
if you remember, and then they wrestled in the main

679
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,880
event on Friday on SmackDown, and again he could not

680
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,960
beat Cody Rhodes. Here in the tag team match, he

681
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:33,920
gets pinned by Cody Rhodes. There's something about this guy,

682
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,360
the Gunther, he just cannot do it. There's something about

683
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,159
Cody that Gunther just cannot figure out. And now he's

684
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,679
not even going to get his shot at Summerslim because

685
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,639
Nick All this fucked him over. But he didn't just

686
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:50,679
fuck over Gunther, he fucked over Sammy's and sammy'se now

687
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,280
is going to blow a gasket as well. He should

688
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,119
because he has a legitimate gripe now, through no fault

689
00:35:56,119 --> 00:36:01,159
of his own, his boss, a WWE a fish, fucked

690
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,800
him over in this match and took away from him,

691
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,119
stole from him a potential championship match at Summer Slam.

692
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:08,880
What are you going to do about that? What are

693
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,760
you going to do to remedy that Sammy didn't do

694
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,280
anything wrong? You're gonna make it a triple threat match

695
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,280
at Summer Slam. Now, I don't necessarily get that sense.

696
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,760
I think they're pretty solid on this being a one

697
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,280
on one match. At the very least, you have to

698
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,519
guarantee Sammy the rematch that he never got, give him

699
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,320
the first shot coming out of Summer Slam. Whoever the

700
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,760
champion is Punk Cody, doesn't matter who SmackDown August seventh.

701
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,480
It figures that absolutely they would do it on August seventh,

702
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,239
because I'm going to be at a House of Glory show.

703
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:41,960
It's only right if you're gonna have a WWE Championship

704
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,920
match on SmackDown, it has to be on a night

705
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,280
where I am unavailable. So I guarantee you August seventh,

706
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,800
there'd be a WWE Championship match between Sammy's eight and

707
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,599
whoever the champion is, but it's only fair And as

708
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:00,239
far as Cody and Punk O, there were some miscommunication

709
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,639
during the match. There was a disaster kick at one

710
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:06,280
point that Cody dropped Punk with but they won the

711
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,760
match and everything was very you know, everything was cool

712
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,119
between them. When it was over and Cody handed Punk

713
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,360
the WWE title. Punk went to go sling the belt

714
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,079
over his shoulder and the strap smacked Cody in the eye. Thankfully,

715
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:21,400
it wasn't the part of the strap that has that

716
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,199
gold tip. That thing will wreck you. You gotta be real

717
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,239
careful with that. So he got smacked in the eye.

718
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400
Punk seemed oblivious to this. Cody was not happy about it,

719
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,159
and Punk left and then Cody followed, and then they

720
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:38,519
shot an angle after the show that aired that ran

721
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:41,159
on their social media and on YouTube, where Punk was

722
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,920
being interviewed in the back by Jackie Redmand. Cody comes

723
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,840
over in a huff and he is not happy and

724
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,440
he just wants him to know, or wants to know

725
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,159
that that wasn't on purpose. Tell me that wasn't on purpose,

726
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:56,360
and Punk had no idea what he was talking about.

727
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,880
Cody's looking at the camera. Get that camera out of here,

728
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:02,360
he's getting all hot. Trick Williams, of all people, randomly

729
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,760
steps in. Trick had wrestled the Larrato Kid on the

730
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,280
pre show in a non title match. Trick randomly steps

731
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,239
in to usher Cody away and try to help break

732
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,400
things up. Do I think that's gonna be indicative of anything?

733
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,760
Not really. I mean, I guess they could just do

734
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,440
Cody against Trick and a random match on SmackDown. I

735
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,440
don't think it's necessarily a sign of anything involving Trick Williams.

736
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,159
But that's how that segment came to a close. You

737
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960
had to know that coming out of this show, things

738
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,239
were gonna have to start to get really heated between

739
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,400
these two, because it's only a couple of weeks that

740
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,320
we got left. But it's fucking boring if the entire

741
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,800
story is, Oh, you're my friend, I respect you, friend.

742
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,440
Oh that's great. I respect you too, friend. I think

743
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,559
the will ospray and the Kenny Omega stuff. I respect you. Brev.

744
00:38:52,239 --> 00:39:00,000
You're my inspiration, Brev. I love you, Brev. Gag me right.

745
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,679
At some point that has to change. Something has to

746
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,519
happen to heat things up between these two. So they

747
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,280
manufactured something here with the belt strap hitting him in

748
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,039
the I mean, there's any number of ways they could

749
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,000
have gone about doing this, but this is exactly what

750
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,920
I figured. Something bad was gonna come out of this show.

751
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,360
Now we can get the face to face and really

752
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,000
get things heated between them. Now the insults are gonna fly, right,

753
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:26,440
the burns are gonna start flying between these two on

754
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,079
the mic starting on SmackDown this week. This is where

755
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:34,199
they start to heat things up between the two of them.

756
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,400
And then they closed the show, not with the main

757
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,480
event match, but they closed the show with twenty minutes

758
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:45,559
maybe more than that of or A farming with Roman

759
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:49,079
Reigns and Jalen Brunson, the captain of your NBA World

760
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:52,719
Champion New York Knicks. He got a full entrance. The

761
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,559
camera followed him from the locker room all the way

762
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,920
through the back and then he meets Roman at Gorilla

763
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,360
and the two of them make their way to the

764
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,400
ring together. This was Brunson's first time setting foot inside

765
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,679
Madison Square Garden since the Knicks became NBA World Champions,

766
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,800
which they didn't do at MSG. They won on the road,

767
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,599
so first time at MSG since then, and they got

768
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,880
Pyro coming out, they got Pyro. Once they hit the ring,

769
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,679
they got Pyro again. At the end of the show.

770
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:23,760
They got so much pie they blew the Pyro budget

771
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,559
just on these two guys alone. And Roman gifted him

772
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,880
a replica World Heavyweight Championship belt with a blue strap

773
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,679
blue an r injured the Knicks, Colors and the Mets.

774
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,840
There will be no gifting of any championship belts to

775
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,079
any New York met anytime soon. Gorgeous belt, though, and

776
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:46,639
and you can buy it if you want to right now.

777
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,760
It'll only set you back seven hundred bucks on WWE

778
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,199
shop dot com. They don't ship out until December. He

779
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,079
gives him this belt. They're posing, and then we hear

780
00:40:56,119 --> 00:41:00,800
Seth Rawlins music, only we don't get seth Rollins. Outcomes

781
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,880
Tyrese Halliburton of the Indiana Pacers, good friends with Jalen Brunson,

782
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,159
but enemies on the court. Didn't work out too well

783
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:11,719
the last time, you know, the Nixon Pacers were together.

784
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,679
It was a decoy though, because Rollins and Bush's reins

785
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,960
in the ring totally played up as a heel. You

786
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,920
would think you're watching all of this and you would

787
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,719
think that this is setting up some sort of tag

788
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,440
team match, like it's Bash at the Beach ninety seven

789
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:30,480
or ninety eight all over again, and not a big

790
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:33,960
singles match for SummerSlam. But believe me, there will be

791
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,960
no tag team match. Jalen Brunson was out there with

792
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,920
his wrist in a cast because he literally just had

793
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,480
wrist surgery in the last few weeks. Haliburton meanwhile, I

794
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:44,280
don't know where he is in his recovery, if he's

795
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,960
one hundred percent or not, but he blew out his achilles.

796
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,519
He ruptured his achilles in Game seven of the NBA

797
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:55,159
Finals last year and missed the entire season. So they

798
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,039
they've dealt with their share of injuries, believe me, the NBA,

799
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,239
and there was spect the teams are not going to

800
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,320
allow them to wrestle any matches anytime soon. But you know,

801
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,119
Brunson steps in the way. Is Rollins was gonna stomp

802
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,360
Roman on a chair, and Roman ends up taking out

803
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,280
Seth with a superman punched Seth. Rollins was forced into

804
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,679
the role here total heal. And this all ends with

805
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,239
Roman holding up the Larry O'Brien Trophy, the NBA Championship Trophy,

806
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,360
and he and Jalen Brunson Poe's in the middle of

807
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,840
the ring to close out the show. Nineteen years ago

808
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,480
we got holy Field against Matt Hardy. Nineteen years later,

809
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,639
we get Jalen Brunson and Tyrese Halliburton. Celebrities have always

810
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:42,880
been involved. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This was

811
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,360
for the live audience more than anything else. This was

812
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,199
a segment built for New York City. I cannot imagine

813
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:51,360
that there were many people who were not Knicks fans

814
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,360
or NBA fans who gave a shit about any of this.

815
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,239
And it was just very weird, Like if you just

816
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,880
paid attention to the Roman and Seth stuff, very weird

817
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,199
watching them book Seth rollins like a heel on this

818
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,239
show when he plays babyface every other week. But it's

819
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,480
all about the moment. It becomes a lot easier to

820
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:12,519
understand stuff like this and why is this in the

821
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:14,239
main event? And first of all, if you were going

822
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,960
to do this segment on the show, it had to

823
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,239
close out the show. I mean, you're sending Jalen Brunson

824
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,320
out there, you got Roman out there. This can't be

825
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,920
anything but the main event of this show. But it's

826
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,119
all about the moment. It isn't even about the story

827
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,719
with them. Oh, well, Seth's going to be a heel

828
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,519
if we do it this way, Well, who gives a show?

829
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,880
Because we got Roman Reigns and Jalen Brunton posing in

830
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,519
the ring together, it's going to be all over the

831
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:39,760
place the next day. It's all about the moment. You know.

832
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,519
That was very evident watching that closing segment last night.

833
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:49,000
WWE Hall of Famer Aj Styles, who on his phenomenally

834
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:53,280
retro podcast said he thinks WWE should make their nosebleed

835
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,239
tickets dirt cheat for SummerSlam so that they could sell

836
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,320
more of them, And WWE just went and lowered the

837
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,960
prices of some of those tickets to as low as

838
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,840
twenty five bucks. Thanks Uncle Allan. It's true, though, if

839
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,320
you've been holding out waiting for prices to drop, some

840
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,639
of them have twenty five bucks in some cases, which

841
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,079
probably is not really twenty five bucks. I imagine that

842
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,920
does not include tax In fact, there's no way, there's

843
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,920
no way that includes taxes and fees. It's probably forty something.

844
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,239
But they finally lowered the ticket prices, So jump on

845
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,320
that now if you want to go this is your chance.

846
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,800
Everyone's been bitching about ticket prices and rightfully so, so

847
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,360
when they drop, got to take advantage of it. But

848
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,400
that's not why I'm bringing him up. On his podcast

849
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,320
this past week, aj Styles said that he was very

850
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,920
much open to the idea of WWE acquiring a promotion

851
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,000
in Japan similar to what they did in Mexico with

852
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,239
Triple A. He said, give me something over in Japan,

853
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,039
oh man, I would love ww to find a way

854
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:56,960
to be in Japan, kind of like the way Triple

855
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,599
A is. We're not changing what they're doing. We're not

856
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,480
trying to change of the culture. We're just putting our

857
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:06,480
spin on it. And he pointed out, you know that

858
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,920
many times Japanese wrestlers would be sent to Mexico in

859
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,320
various places on excursion, and WWE could do something very similar.

860
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,559
He says, I believe that with the help of WWE,

861
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:19,119
we would be able to revive Japanese wrestling to where

862
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,800
it was. I would love to see it backwards the

863
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,199
Tokyo Dome. I'm talking about, not like a WrestleMania over there.

864
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,440
I'm just saying it's the company selling out the Tokyo

865
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,199
Dome like it did in the early nineties. Yeah, well,

866
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:34,800
I'm sure it'll work out as well for Japan as

867
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,880
it did for the UK when WWE invaded that scene.

868
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,440
They still haven't fully recovered from that. I hate this

869
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,800
idea of WWE buying up more promotions in other parts

870
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,639
of the world, and I can't believe, frankly, that he's

871
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:50,119
even giving voice to this. I get what he's saying

872
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,880
in terms of wanting to help revive the Japanese scene,

873
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,880
which hasn't fully recovered from COVID, or at least new

874
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,320
japan business hasn't. And I understand that. You know, WWE

875
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,920
has done a lot of good things for Triple A

876
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,800
on the production end and on the collaboration end of things.

877
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,920
For all of the good the WWE may have done

878
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:13,119
so far with Triple A, the idea of them going

879
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,119
around and doing this in other parts of the world

880
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:19,559
and just continuing to acquire and snatch up various promotions

881
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,760
and sort of plant their flag in different parts of

882
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,280
the world. When you think about it in terms of

883
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,199
what is WWE getting out of it. They don't make

884
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,920
these moves unless it really benefits them, and they're not

885
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,960
doing it because, oh well, this scene is doing, you know,

886
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:36,480
a little, a little poorly in this part of the world.

887
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,159
Their business is a little soft over in Japan right now,

888
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:40,679
So why don't we go over there and help these

889
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,480
people out. They don't give a shit, give me a

890
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,360
fucking break. They don't care if they see some benefit

891
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,079
in it for themselves, or they see an opening where

892
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,239
they can take over and they can invade and they

893
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,519
can come in and it blows up into this old

894
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:58,760
big thing. That's what they're interested in. That's essentially what

895
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,800
aj Styles is saying here, or even if that's not

896
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,000
really his intention. Oh man, I can't. I would love

897
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:07,880
to see WWE acquire a company in Japan, and oh

898
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,880
my god, they would make things so much better over there,

899
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,000
and they would make right rising tides lift all ships.

900
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:17,039
And yeah, not in this case. Not. In this case,

901
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:21,000
it doesn't the idea of WWE sending some of their

902
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:25,519
talents over to Japan on excursion, Like, Okay, they acquire

903
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:28,159
this company and so now they have talents that they

904
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,440
can send over to Japan. But here's the thing about that,

905
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,719
Like that sounds like a great idea in theory. I

906
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,039
love the idea of sending wrestlers, especially once you maybe

907
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,920
aren't really actively being used at the moment, or if

908
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,400
you have talents that are still fairly new at this

909
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:46,280
WWE does virtually no domestic house shows anymore, like very

910
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,360
very few, and they call people up from NXT who

911
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,239
in some cases aren't really prepared to necessarily be called

912
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,519
up from NXT, but they have some need for them

913
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:56,880
and they call them up, and now they're barely even

914
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,639
wrestling because they don't have house shows anymore. Maybe they'll

915
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:02,800
get a main event match or something that's basically where

916
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,440
Jordan Grace is these days, but outside of that, they're

917
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,360
not really working. The idea of sending them over to

918
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,880
Japan or Mexico or someplace like that, it's appealing if

919
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:17,360
WWE is not involved in any of that. It should

920
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,559
be something completely different, a totally different style, a totally

921
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:24,159
different way of wrestling and doing things. What he's talking

922
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:27,480
about essentially is no WWE will acquire one of these

923
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,280
companies and you know they're going to put their stamp

924
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,519
on it. There's going to be a certain style stylistic

925
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:36,760
changes right to some of the matches. You watch these

926
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,800
tripa A shows, they very much feel like a WWE show.

927
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,760
That's exactly the opposite of what I would be interested,

928
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,760
and that's exactly the opposite of what I think would

929
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,920
benefit some of these people, just based on what he's

930
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,320
describing here. But I don't think he doesn't see it

931
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,840
that way. You know, AJ's talking about longing for the

932
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,719
days of sold out Tokyo Dome shows and you know,

933
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,119
the early nineties glory period of Japanese wrestling. And I'm

934
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,079
sure he's not the only one, right, there's a lot

935
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:07,480
of people who probably long for those days too, But no,

936
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,880
WWE acquiring a company is not going to bring them

937
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,239
back to the glory days. If they wanted to throw

938
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,039
a lifeline to one of them and work together in

939
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:21,920
a collaborative way, that's one thing he's talking about. Something

940
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:28,079
completely different. He's talking about colonization, planting their flag and

941
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,800
colonizing in different parts of the world. That's the last

942
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,239
fucking thing that we need. You want true alternatives that

943
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,800
have no ties to WWE, completely independent of WWE. This

944
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,239
is the exact thing you should be rooting against, not four.

945
00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:47,480
And I think it's fucking terrible that AJ Styles is

946
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,199
giving voice to this idea. I just love how he's

947
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:52,960
talking about well, look what we're doing with Triple A

948
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,840
right now, Like, we're not trying to change the culture,

949
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,920
We're just putting our own spin on it. What does

950
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,599
that even mean? What does he think that means? Those

951
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:09,559
ideas they fly in the face of each other. And

952
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:11,599
I pointed this out the other day on on Crowned.

953
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:14,360
They said, if you look at the list of champions,

954
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,400
like the champions roll call in Triple A right now,

955
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,280
I think more than half at least half, if not

956
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,039
more than half the champions there are main roster WWE talents.

957
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,039
Dom has been walking around with the Mega title for

958
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:30,519
almost a year. The person he's going to probably lose

959
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:35,000
it to at Triple Media is actually another WWE guy,

960
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:37,119
but at least with him, like the fans in Mexico

961
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:39,079
have really taken him in as one of their own.

962
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:41,559
I mean, he's a huge babyface, so it makes total

963
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:43,760
sense for them to do that. But it is still

964
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,559
Ludwig Kaiser under the mask. I mean, let's just be honest,

965
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,920
that's what we're talking about here. The war Raiders who

966
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,960
had a hell of a match with Phraxium on SmackDown

967
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,400
on Friday night, they won the Triple A Tag team

968
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,280
titles and they're walking around with the Triple A belts

969
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,000
on SmackDown? Is this the spin that Aja is taught

970
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,719
talking about? You want to see a repeat of this

971
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,320
in Japan. I'm sure that's going to be great. That's

972
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,079
going to turn out great for the scene over there.

973
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,639
This would be a terrible idea. The last thing we

974
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:14,480
need to see is WWE going into full acquisition mode

975
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:17,880
and going into Japan or anywhere else and acquiring more companies.

976
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:23,400
And on Monday, WWE announced that the fortieth annual Survivor

977
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,679
Series is coming to dyke In Park in Houston, Texas,

978
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,159
home of the Houston Astros. That's going to be on

979
00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:32,599
the Saturday after Thanksgiving. The last time they ran a

980
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:35,840
pl at that stadium was the Royal Rumble in twenty twenty,

981
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,920
with that great moment when Drew McIntyre booted brock lesnar

982
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,159
right out of the Rumble. The place exploded. You know,

983
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:45,599
that ended up being more of a WrestleMania moment for

984
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,280
McIntyre than his actual WrestleMania moment was. But this is

985
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,559
going to be the second year in a row that

986
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:53,039
Survivor Series is held at a major league stadium after

987
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:56,480
running at Petco Park in San Diego last year. This

988
00:51:56,599 --> 00:51:59,360
comes after a report from Mike Johnson, a PW insider

989
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,719
earlier in the world, that said sources in Major League

990
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,239
Baseball have passed on that WWE has looked into the

991
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,280
potential of running a major event in Milwaukee at American

992
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,039
Family Field. That would be the baseball stadium that houses

993
00:52:13,079 --> 00:52:17,119
the Milwaukee Brewers. Our source state's WWE was looking at

994
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:19,440
the fall of twenty twenty six or the fall of

995
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,719
twenty twenty seven, which could indicate that the stadium could

996
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:27,360
eventually house a Survivor Series event. So I guess that

997
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,079
means that next year's show maybe coming to the Cream

998
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:34,360
City instead. What a nickname, by the way, to be

999
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:40,280
called the Cream City. Oh man, hey, honey, I'm I'm

1000
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,039
going to Milwaukee for my bachelor party. The boys want

1001
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:47,639
to take me to Cream City? Yeah? See how well

1002
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:53,119
that goes over well. In the announcement, they did make

1003
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:56,239
it very clear that Wargames is coming back, so they

1004
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,920
are sticking with the Wargames concept yet again for Survivor Series.

1005
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,360
What was this now four years in a row something

1006
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,079
like that. I was as big an advocate as anybody

1007
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,159
for years and years and years on this podcast for

1008
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,400
WWE bringing wargames to the main roster, long before TRIPLEH

1009
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,280
did it with NXT. I just love the concept of it,

1010
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,000
the visual of it, especially when there was a top

1011
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:24,320
on the cage. You're just trapped inside and it's mass chaos,

1012
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,320
and you know, you go really old school with wargames.

1013
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,559
You got guys fucking bleeding all over the place. It

1014
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:33,079
felt like a real war, right the Horsemen against you know,

1015
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,239
Staying in the Road Warriors, or go down the list

1016
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,960
of great war games matches over the years, things Squadron

1017
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,960
against the Dangerous Alliance, and there were some great ones

1018
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,280
in NXT too. It wasn't just all the old school ones.

1019
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,440
So wargames, when done right, is a great concept. The

1020
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,199
problem is that they have run wargames into the ground

1021
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,440
where there's a lot of people myself included, who were

1022
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,840
just exhausted seeing the same thing over and over again

1023
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,079
with the Bloodline or with e O Sky going to

1024
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:00,920
the top of the cage and doing her her garbage.

1025
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,599
Can dive like Oscar the Grouch and jumping off the

1026
00:54:03,639 --> 00:54:06,639
top of the cage, because that's just what we do.

1027
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,119
Now we've turned you know, wargames into kind of a joke,

1028
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:14,599
but you know, and like bloodline fatigue sets in after

1029
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:18,320
a while. You see the same faces over and over

1030
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,400
and over again, and it's just not that interesting, And

1031
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,320
I just I really wish they would take a break

1032
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,239
from it and have a return to some sort of

1033
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:30,440
even if it's not exactly the traditional Survivor series elimination match,

1034
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,920
some sort of elimination concept I think would be kind

1035
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,800
of interesting. But they're gonna do wargames, and if they're

1036
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,320
gonna do it, I certainly hope it's not just you know,

1037
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,360
bloodline reducts again, and hopefully they can come up with

1038
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:45,920
a match with teams where it actually feels like, Okay,

1039
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,360
these men really don't like each other. There's there's been

1040
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,079
this war brewing between these two sides for a while now,

1041
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:56,719
and this feels like this needs to be settled in

1042
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,360
a wargames match. I don't have a lot of faith

1043
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:02,599
that that's what's going to happen, but just give me

1044
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,039
a good reason for doing it, and preferably give me

1045
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:08,119
at least some some new faces in there instead of

1046
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:11,039
just running back the bloodline with the bloodline civil war

1047
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:12,880
stuff or whatever it is. That I'm sure they're going

1048
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,840
to end up doing. In November, I mentioned Ludwig Kaiser

1049
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,880
a little while ago. We have an update on his case.

1050
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,280
There was a pre trial hearing for him aka El

1051
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:30,440
Grande Americano. His attorney filed a motion after that hearing

1052
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,320
on Thursday to continue the proceedings or delay them until

1053
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,960
August twenty seventh. His attorney also filed a waiver for

1054
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:40,440
a speedy trial, meaning that he has given up his

1055
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,920
rights to be tried within a certain period of time.

1056
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,840
And this all stems from the incident between Kaiser and

1057
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,840
his alleged victim, this guy Richard Reap, back on April

1058
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,440
twenty third in Orlando in their apartment complex. Both of

1059
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,039
them lived there. According to Reap, Kaiser and a female

1060
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,400
or aggressively kissing while the three of them were on

1061
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,639
an elevator, and Reap says he told the couple to

1062
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:09,480
please have some manners. I'm sure he said it exactly

1063
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:14,000
that way, and that led to Kaiser attacking him. So

1064
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:18,280
the court is expecting a trial to take place in September,

1065
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:20,880
although if there's a plea deal between now and then,

1066
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,119
or if the charges end up being dismissed, then there

1067
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:26,199
will be no trial now this year. This rite up

1068
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,440
comes from f furw online dot com. Kaiser's side of

1069
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,199
the story regarding the incident was revealed this week in

1070
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,000
advance of that pre trial conference that I just mentioned.

1071
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,000
It was revealed in a defense motion that was filed

1072
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:40,760
attempting to get the case dismissed, and the motion cites

1073
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,119
Florida's stand your ground law that allows someone to use

1074
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:47,280
non deadly force in a situation where they reasonably believe

1075
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,880
it to be necessary to protect themselves or another against

1076
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,360
imminent use of unlawful force. Kaiser's version of events says

1077
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,840
that he and his girlfriend, Andrea Bazarte were hugging in

1078
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,679
the elevator, which led to Reep swearing at them while

1079
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,320
telling them to have some respect. When Kaiser asked Reep

1080
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,840
what he said, Reap allegedly told him to have some

1081
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:15,440
respect before I call ice on that bitch. A confrontation ensued,

1082
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,159
but Kaiser says he did not threaten or touch Reap

1083
00:57:18,239 --> 00:57:21,519
until Reap aggressively raised his hands and got close to him.

1084
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,360
Kaiser says he then pushed Reap away, but Reap twice

1085
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,360
came back in a threatening manner. Kaiser says he pushed

1086
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,840
Reap but did not retaliate when Reaped threw a soft

1087
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,719
drink bottle at him, and the confrontation ended at that point.

1088
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,280
In late June, Kaiser's defense was granted access to surveillance

1089
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,079
footage of the incident, which should show which version of

1090
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:44,639
events is closer to being accurate now. The original arrest

1091
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:47,320
affidavit says the police officer reviewed the footage and saw

1092
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,039
Reap being punched and pushed. Police also observed a large,

1093
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:55,119
fresh scratch on Reep's head in person. Kaiser has been

1094
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:57,800
allowed to travel freely while the case plays out. After

1095
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,280
the legal side has resolved Kaiser, Kaiser rather is potentially

1096
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,199
facing a civil suit, as Reep has obtained an attorney

1097
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:08,159
who focuses on civil litigation and personal injury. I'm sure

1098
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:10,360
he's gonna want to get paid and look in this

1099
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,079
situation again. If Kaiser was in the wrong here, we've

1100
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:16,360
now heard his version of events. If his version of

1101
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,760
events is accurate, then it will come out. If his

1102
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,000
version of events is not so accurate, and he put

1103
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:24,679
his hands on this guy when he really had no

1104
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:27,199
business doing so, then there's going to be a price

1105
00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:28,639
to be paid for that. You can't be doing that.

1106
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,440
You can't be putting your hands on people when there's

1107
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,480
no reason to do so. So at the very least,

1108
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:35,880
I'm sure this guy's gonna end up getting paid. How much,

1109
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,159
I don't know, but if nothing else, I'm sure he's

1110
00:58:39,199 --> 00:58:42,480
going to get a nice payday out of this. Although

1111
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:45,199
I guess we'll see. We'll see what the surveillance footage shows.

1112
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,920
If there's surveillance footage, it should be pretty cut and dry,

1113
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,719
although there wouldn't be audio on there, so I guess

1114
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,840
we might not have a way of knowing whether or

1115
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,400
not this person said what Kaiser claims he said. Now,

1116
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,400
with all my computer issues I was dealing with in

1117
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,280
the middle of this week, I was not able to

1118
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,840
go live for the Dynamite stream on Wednesday, but lucky you,

1119
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,800
you get my thoughts here instead, and I got a

1120
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,519
lot of them. First of all, they scored a big

1121
00:59:11,559 --> 00:59:14,239
audience last week for their Beach Break episode, their biggest

1122
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:17,159
in at least two years, and they topped that for

1123
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:20,159
this week's show, so people obviously liked what they saw.

1124
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:24,119
This was a poor follow up to that, but also

1125
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,159
not as bad as some people made it out. To be.

1126
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,960
I mean to hear some people talk about it, this

1127
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:29,960
was the worst dynamite of the year. This was the

1128
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,360
worst dynamite the years. To me, it was not as

1129
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,440
good as Beach Break, but it wasn't terrible either. It

1130
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,400
was a pretty middle of the road show. But at

1131
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,159
least when it was over, we actually had a redemption card.

1132
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,800
I was more offended by that. We had basically nothing

1133
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,920
announce for redemption and it's good that we have a

1134
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,239
card now because we are we're a week out. We

1135
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:56,280
are now a week out from today. Coming into this episode.

1136
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,239
On Wednesday, they had one match announced. That was it.

1137
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:02,880
Now we have was it seven? I think we have

1138
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,239
seven or eight eight matches announced. There was no MJF

1139
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,000
on this show on Wednesday, so it looks like he's

1140
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:12,559
clearly not even going to be on the redemption card.

1141
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,559
More mind boggling to me, though not even so much

1142
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:21,880
as a mention of the fact that Hangman Adam Page,

1143
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,119
a two time aw World champion, making his return to

1144
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:31,000
Collision last Saturday, and they showed highlights from Collision on

1145
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,280
this episode. Of other things that happened, Hikarushida beating Harley Cameron,

1146
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,840
Mark Davis beating Speedball Mike Bailey. They never even mentioned

1147
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,920
Hangman being back after four months away. Even his return

1148
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,840
itself last Saturday was never promoted on Dynamite. It came

1149
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,039
in a tweet from Tony Kahn a day or two

1150
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:54,199
before the show. Now, they mentioned him on Collision last night,

1151
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:57,800
but to not even mention something big like that on

1152
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,239
this show on Wednesday or show highlights that is, it's inexcusable.

1153
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:05,400
I have no words for that. Actually, no, I do

1154
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:10,480
have stupid, dumb, idiotic, those are some of the words

1155
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:11,639
that come to mind.

1156
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: Now.

1157
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: They opened the show with John Moxley giving will Ospray

1158
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,079
a pep talk, but the key line here was telling

1159
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:20,800
him there will come a time where you have to

1160
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,840
make a difficult decision, and when that time comes, do

1161
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,639
not hesitate to pull the trigger, no matter who the

1162
01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:30,480
target is. So in other words, now that could have

1163
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:32,239
a double meaning, right, that could have to do with

1164
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,719
the match with Omega all In. I know you're friends

1165
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:36,719
with him and you respect him, but again, you may

1166
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,199
have to pull the trigger. And if you want to

1167
01:01:38,239 --> 01:01:40,639
win the world title, you're gonna have to make a

1168
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:44,960
decision or there's going to come a time where John

1169
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,960
Moxley turns against him, and Osprey is gonna have to

1170
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,119
fuck him up, and that's going to be the end

1171
01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:52,480
of him and the Death Riders. I mean, I think

1172
01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:55,280
we all know it's coming, we just don't know when. Right.

1173
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,559
Does it happen at all? In? Does it happen at Redemption?

1174
01:01:57,679 --> 01:01:59,800
Because there's a new tag team match that's been announced

1175
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,599
they're going to be wrestling the Young Bucks. Does it

1176
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:05,679
happen at all? In? Does it happen after all?

1177
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: In?

1178
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:10,199
Speaker 1: I'll say after And I think Moxley is gonna end

1179
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:13,960
up being Osprey's first challenger for the title. Adam Copeland

1180
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,960
and Christian Cage they defended their aw tag team titles

1181
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,199
against Daniel Garcia and Wheeler Yuda, and we have new

1182
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,239
tag team shit now, I'm just fucking with you. I mean,

1183
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:26,519
give me a fucking break. No, they had them beat

1184
01:02:26,519 --> 01:02:29,519
the Death Riders CE team to set up a title

1185
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:32,920
match for Redemption with the Death Writers B team in

1186
01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:37,360
Claudio Castignoluan Pack because they want to save that Young

1187
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,800
Bucks match, probably for Wembley, So this gives them a

1188
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:45,039
team to beat in the meantime, Andrede liedelo he got

1189
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:48,639
the predictable win over Jake Doyle to claim his shot

1190
01:02:48,679 --> 01:02:51,159
at Mark Davis in the national title at Redemption, So

1191
01:02:51,239 --> 01:02:54,000
that was our second match made official for that show.

1192
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,559
Before the match in the back with Renee, Androde said

1193
01:02:57,559 --> 01:02:59,719
that he's making it his mission to beat every member

1194
01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:03,159
of the Don Kallis family and take every title from

1195
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:07,039
them before eventually winning the AW World Championship, which means

1196
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:09,559
that Androte will not be winning the AW World Title

1197
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:12,360
for another two and a half years given the rate

1198
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,519
of new members that we have with the Kallis family.

1199
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:19,320
He's already knocked off Brian Cage and Jake Doyle, so

1200
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:24,000
only eighteen more to go. Then we had the Kenny

1201
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,280
Omega World Championship celebration coming off of his big win

1202
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,599
at Beach breakover MJF. This included the Young Bucks coming

1203
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:35,119
out to take the Beije MJF belt from him. Am

1204
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:37,079
I the only one who thinks it's kind of ridiculous.

1205
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:40,559
You listen to the announcers and they're shitting all over

1206
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:44,679
the Beije belt or calling it ugly or whatever they

1207
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:47,280
said about it. I actually think it's a pretty damn

1208
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,639
good looking belt. There ain't nothing wrong with the belt.

1209
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:51,639
I mean, you could shit on MJF if you want to.

1210
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:55,800
But them talking about the belt, you would think, like man,

1211
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,320
nobody wants to touch that thing. Even when he had

1212
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,559
the American title and they kind of got rid of

1213
01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:03,880
the International title for a while. It was a good

1214
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,400
looking belt. There's nothing wrong with the physical belt, but

1215
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:12,400
the bucks were there and they presented him instead with

1216
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:18,559
the traditional black AW World Championship, which, outside of the

1217
01:04:18,599 --> 01:04:23,079
IWGP belt, this is still the second most gorgeous belt

1218
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:25,840
in all of pro wrestling right now is the AW

1219
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,119
World title. They definitely got it right with that belt. Now.

1220
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:32,159
I heard Dave Meltzer say that he thought that this

1221
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,440
was the best US promo of Kenny Omega's career. If

1222
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,800
that is the case, what a sad commentary on the

1223
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,000
man's promo ability. If this is his best US promo

1224
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:46,800
of his career. I thought he was fine, but this

1225
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,559
was hardly anything memorable from him on the microphone. He's

1226
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:52,480
not a great promo to begin with. He's really not

1227
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:56,239
that great. But it's been so long, he says, I

1228
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,000
can't even quote the actual number of days since I

1229
01:04:59,079 --> 01:05:01,119
last held this champ and ship. But he credits his

1230
01:05:01,159 --> 01:05:04,679
friends and family and the fans, because without them he

1231
01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:07,880
would have given up on himself a long time ago.

1232
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:10,880
But here we are less than fifty days until Wembley Stadium.

1233
01:05:11,239 --> 01:05:13,199
As much as I would like to say that I'm ready,

1234
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,639
I've got work to do. And in fifty days you're

1235
01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:19,320
going to see the best version of Kenny Omega in AW.

1236
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,519
So will Ospray interrupts and he asked the bucks if

1237
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:26,679
he and Kenny could have the ring to themselves, and

1238
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:31,079
Osprey says, it was very important that Omega believed in himself, Brov.

1239
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,559
And he was here to see Omega wrestle twenty five

1240
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:38,599
minutes in that heat last week, never giving up on himself, Brev.

1241
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:42,400
Osprey thought Omega was done after taking a belt shot Brev,

1242
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,960
but then he kicked out. It won, Brov. He says,

1243
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,199
the cleaner is back, the best bout machine is back, Brov.

1244
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,199
But for ten years Omega has been his hero and

1245
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:58,199
his inspiration, and he can only say thank you, Brov,

1246
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:01,880
every time he steps in the ring with him. Thank you.

1247
01:06:02,719 --> 01:06:05,719
When Osprey thinks of AAW he thinks of Kenny Omega.

1248
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,079
It's All's ever wanted was to be a fraction of

1249
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:11,760
what Omega is. But he's not satisfied as being second.

1250
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,440
Every week they'll be out here showing everybody why they're

1251
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,639
in the position they're in in a Wembley Stadium main

1252
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:21,519
event aw world title. Let's show them that this is

1253
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:25,840
where the best wrestle. And this is all finding good

1254
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:28,559
for now, but this is going to get very old

1255
01:06:29,079 --> 01:06:31,440
if we're still getting these types of promos three weeks

1256
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,400
from now. So if they're going to do Babyface against Babyface,

1257
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,239
I hope that they have a good plan to make

1258
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,000
things more interesting going into it other than simply it's

1259
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:45,039
where the best wrestle. Later in the show, by the way,

1260
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,360
in the back, John Moxley told Kenny Omega some people

1261
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:52,280
are who they are and can't pretend to be anything

1262
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,199
else even if they try. If Moxley is going to

1263
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,960
plant ideas in Osprey's head about while Omega is trying

1264
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,679
to convince Osprey that the Death Riders are not his friends,

1265
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:07,840
that could be the catalyst for some tension between the

1266
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,119
two of them. That would be probably the best direction

1267
01:07:10,199 --> 01:07:11,800
they could take. I think that could turn out to

1268
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,639
be pretty interesting. But the interruptions were not done yet,

1269
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:20,360
because here comes the TNT Champion, the Jet Kevin Knight,

1270
01:07:20,639 --> 01:07:23,559
who tells Osprey he's got things to talk about champion

1271
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:27,199
to champion, and Omega said Osprey can stay, and so

1272
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:29,239
he hung back in the corner and Knight said, I'm

1273
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,760
still owed to title shot courtesy of Maxwell. Jacob Fraudman

1274
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,760
says Omega is a god, but what's a god to

1275
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,559
a non believer? And he issued a challenge for redemption

1276
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:43,760
to a World Championship match, to which the crowd began

1277
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:49,679
chanting No. They're like, I get he's a heel, but

1278
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,920
that's just hilarious to me, Like I would have been

1279
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,159
chanting the same thing, but for a very different reason,

1280
01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:56,639
as in, No, there has to be a better match

1281
01:07:56,679 --> 01:07:58,320
that you could come up with for the main event

1282
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,280
of this brand new pay per view that you're doing.

1283
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:04,639
Omega said, Night is trying to hold him accountable for

1284
01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:08,440
a promise that MJF made. And I noticed something here

1285
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,400
as he was talking in supposedly the best US promo

1286
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,480
of his career, I noticed something that was kind of peculiar,

1287
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,520
which is that Kenny Omega cannot say the name Maxwell.

1288
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,560
Did you notice this? I thought he just flubbed his

1289
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,640
name the first time he said it, like he misspoke,

1290
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:27,279
but then he kept saying it the same way over

1291
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:30,399
and over, like another three or four times. Instead of

1292
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,960
saying Maxwell. It sounded like he kept calling him maxib

1293
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:40,399
or like maxib very strange. I mean, at that point,

1294
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,479
just call him Max because you're gonna try to hold

1295
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,640
me to his word. We're not gonna do that. But

1296
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,439
maybe I'll give you a shot just because I'm a

1297
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,479
nice guy. Maybe because the first time I laid eyes

1298
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,720
on you, I saw something special, someone who looked the part,

1299
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,479
someone who was faster than everybody else and jumped higher,

1300
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,279
someone who was hungry. But that's where it ended, because

1301
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,000
Knight went and aligned himself with Don Kallas, and Omegas

1302
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,119
said he'd be a hypocrite if he told everyone that

1303
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:09,279
he never believed in what Don Kallas was selling, because

1304
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:12,039
the last time he was world champion was thanks to

1305
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:16,039
Don Kallas. He was during the coronavirus outbreak when no

1306
01:09:16,079 --> 01:09:18,439
one was able to show up to celebrate. But he

1307
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,800
realized even if they could show up, they would not

1308
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,680
have He didn't deserve for them to and he told Knight,

1309
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,399
you don't need Don kallus. You could do this on

1310
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,720
your own. And Omegas said, call MJF what you want.

1311
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,199
But he wasn't a fraud. He defended his title when

1312
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:36,199
he said he would. The only fraud that Omega sees

1313
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:39,359
is Kevin Knight. Deep down inside. The shit that Knight

1314
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,680
is spewing is not coming from the heart. Call him crazy,

1315
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,000
but he thinks there's a lot of good left in

1316
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:47,119
this man's heart. And you don't need a guy like

1317
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:50,239
Don Kallas to beat Kenny Omega. But if it's going

1318
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:53,359
to be US at Redemption, he wants the Jet Kevin Knight.

1319
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:57,039
He doesn't want Don Kallas's bitch. You want to be Jet.

1320
01:09:57,039 --> 01:10:01,439
Two belts, do it on your own. And Knight said, well,

1321
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,000
one thing that you're wrong about. There's no goodness left

1322
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,319
in my heart, only greatness, and he smashed Kenny in

1323
01:10:08,319 --> 01:10:10,479
the head with the microphone. Osprey flew in for the

1324
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,640
hidden Blade, but Knight ducked it and he bailed up

1325
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,319
the ramp. But then Darby Allen flew out and he

1326
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:18,279
attacked Kevin Knight on the ramp. Because those two are

1327
01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:22,319
actually feuding right now, Brian Cage, he attacked Darby from behind.

1328
01:10:22,359 --> 01:10:25,159
Here comes Rocky Romero and Trent Burretta who get laid

1329
01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:28,239
out by Omega and Osprey. Here come more members of

1330
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:31,279
the Callous Crew, but the Death Riders come out. They

1331
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:33,880
join Omega and Osprey in the ring to keep them

1332
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,680
in bay. Another episode of Dynamite, another week where I'm

1333
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,800
not sure if I'm supposed to be cheering for the

1334
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,079
Death Riders or booing the death Riders. You have them

1335
01:10:44,079 --> 01:10:46,840
in the opening match against Cop and Christian playing heels.

1336
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,239
Same with Claudio and Pac, but here they're treated like babyfaces.

1337
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,720
This segment was too long. It was like a WWE

1338
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,520
opening promo segment long when it really didn't need to be.

1339
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,560
But it's its purpose, which was to give us our

1340
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,359
main event for Montreal on twenty sixth and so, for

1341
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,600
the third time in less than a year, we have

1342
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:12,479
the TNT champion challenging for and losing to the aw

1343
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,520
World Champion. And look, there's no shame in losing to

1344
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,760
the champ, right, that's why they're the world champion. But

1345
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,640
they don't need to be making a habit out of

1346
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,079
it now. They did this with Kyle Fletcher. It all

1347
01:11:25,119 --> 01:11:27,720
out last year he was the TNT champion, right, he

1348
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,960
wrestled Hangman in the main event for the world title.

1349
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,479
I didn't even hate it when they did it with

1350
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,720
Kyle last year. I thought they were telling people by

1351
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,640
positioning him in the main event, we see main event

1352
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,760
potential in this man, right, go out there and sell yourself,

1353
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,439
sell yourself to the fans that you belong in this spot.

1354
01:11:45,359 --> 01:11:47,840
That's essentially what they're doing here, and I mean there's

1355
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,239
nothing inherently wrong with that, but it really does feel

1356
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:53,600
like a throwaway main event, as in, they threw away

1357
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,199
what should have been the main event in favor of

1358
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:58,319
doing a lesser match. I still have not been given

1359
01:11:58,359 --> 01:12:00,119
a good reason as to why that match was on

1360
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,680
television and not save for redemption. I don't give a

1361
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,920
shit if the idea came from MJF himself. He's not

1362
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:09,079
a dumb man, right. He knew that it would pop

1363
01:12:09,119 --> 01:12:11,119
a big rating and he could take credit for it,

1364
01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:14,000
and it worked. But like in terms of star power,

1365
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,399
this is an objectively weaker main event on a show

1366
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:20,000
that was added very late to the schedule and could

1367
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:23,079
use a really strong drawing main event in ring. I

1368
01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:25,119
know it's going to be strong. I mean, maybe it

1369
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:27,159
might even end up being match of the night. But

1370
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:29,479
you can say that about every aw pay per view.

1371
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,680
I mean by that logic, just put Kenny Omega against

1372
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,520
Hetchesero in the main event, right or Commander? Are we

1373
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,880
looking Here's what I'm wondering now. I'm looking at this

1374
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,119
and it's no longer Kenny going for the championship trying

1375
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:44,119
to get his redemption and get that win back over

1376
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:48,000
MJF from Dynasty. They killed that story last week. He

1377
01:12:48,119 --> 01:12:51,960
got his redemption on Beach Break. Are we looking not

1378
01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:57,239
at Kenny Omega's redemption now but Kevin Knights? Because there

1379
01:12:57,279 --> 01:13:01,640
were so many mentions in this promo back stage in

1380
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:07,239
other segments, like when the Speedball confronted Kevin Knight, where

1381
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:09,840
they were all talking about like the real Kevin Knight

1382
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,720
right and ditching Callous and ditching the Don Kallis family,

1383
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,680
and you still have good in your hearts and I

1384
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,319
know it's still buried deep down inside you. Is this

1385
01:13:19,399 --> 01:13:22,800
what we're building to here? It would seem a little

1386
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,680
quick to break him away from the Callous family, seeing

1387
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,279
is how he just joined them, But with Omega talking

1388
01:13:29,319 --> 01:13:33,119
about all this stuff and again Speedball confronting him, and

1389
01:13:33,239 --> 01:13:36,000
I'll be here waiting when the old you know, Kevin

1390
01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:40,079
Knight shows up again. Maybe they've pivoted to a Kevin

1391
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:43,399
Knight redemption arc. I don't know. I mean, can you

1392
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:49,239
really have a redemption after only two months? Usually you'd

1393
01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:50,840
expect it to go a little bit longer than that.

1394
01:13:52,119 --> 01:13:55,840
He just joined. Is that what we're looking at though?

1395
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:00,199
That's what it feels like to me. Also, how many

1396
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:04,239
times must we have champions challenging other champions in this company?

1397
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,800
This is what happens when everyone has a belt, you

1398
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,960
end up with endless champion against champion matches. They've announced

1399
01:14:11,039 --> 01:14:13,880
Kyle Fletcher will be defending the International title at Redemption

1400
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,159
against Bandido. Because Bandido had the gall to interrupt his

1401
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:20,439
backstage promo when he was in the middle of speaking.

1402
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:23,520
That's how this match came about. That's only a step

1403
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,680
below Chris Jericho spelling coffee on Caine in the back,

1404
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,800
leading to a feud between them. Bandido, the Ring of

1405
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,239
Honor World champion, who already lost last month to John

1406
01:14:34,279 --> 01:14:37,640
Moxley when he challenged for the continental title, is now

1407
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,439
going to lose again to Kyle Fletcher. Kevin Knight is

1408
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,359
going to be defending his TNT Championship on TBS next

1409
01:14:46,359 --> 01:14:48,760
week against Darby Allen. They're doing that match on TV

1410
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,119
next week, and so now that we know he won't

1411
01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:55,680
be defending it at Redemption, did you know that the

1412
01:14:55,680 --> 01:15:00,760
TNT Championship has not been defended on a single pay

1413
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:05,880
per view since Full Gear last year. I'm not counting

1414
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,319
Dynasty this year because the title was vacant, there was

1415
01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:13,279
no champion to defend, and they was Kevin Knight actually,

1416
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:15,079
who won the title in a gauntlet match. I'm not

1417
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:18,800
counting that. Not a single defense of that title since

1418
01:15:19,039 --> 01:15:22,880
November on a pay per view for what had been

1419
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,880
considered the second biggest men's title in the entire company.

1420
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,199
I mean, maybe it isn't anymore. I think John Moxley's

1421
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,880
got the Continental title, so that's probably the de facto

1422
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,000
number two men's belt in the company. But for what's

1423
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,159
supposed to be their second biggest title, that's fucking awful.

1424
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:45,119
That is an awful statistic. I mentioned Kyle Fletcher hell

1425
01:15:45,159 --> 01:15:47,840
of a title defense against Commander. Commander has been missing

1426
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,720
for months due to visa issues that only recently got resolved.

1427
01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:54,119
I had a lot of fun with this match, so

1428
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,039
did the crowd. When it was over, Fletcher went to

1429
01:15:57,039 --> 01:16:00,319
go rip his mask off when Kenoski takeshter Ren. He

1430
01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:03,640
attacked Fletcher and I said, oh, he's stuck around. I

1431
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,239
thought he would be back in Japan by now. Takeshta

1432
01:16:07,319 --> 01:16:10,119
picked up the international title when Okada ran in and

1433
01:16:10,199 --> 01:16:13,119
laid him out with a rain maker. Okata and Fletcher

1434
01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:15,279
they pick up the title at the same time and

1435
01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:19,920
staring each other down until Brodido hits the ring and

1436
01:16:20,039 --> 01:16:22,800
takes them both out, and it ends with Bendido holding

1437
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,960
up the international titles. So we're totally getting a three

1438
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,439
way in London with Takeshta, Fletcher, and Okada. Once Takesha

1439
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:34,319
comes back. Chris Jericho he issued a challenge to Tamaso

1440
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,920
Champa for a rematch at Redemption. After Champa threw sand

1441
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,439
in his eyes to win their first match at Beach Break,

1442
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,680
I said, Shampa, you bring the pain I'll bring the

1443
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,359
pain maker. And Jericho turned and we saw the pain

1444
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,119
maker makeup on his which is I mean, I say

1445
01:16:53,159 --> 01:16:56,800
the pain maker makeup? My god, It's just it's a

1446
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,479
couple of black streaks under his eyes that's basically the makeup,

1447
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,159
or maybe like by the corners of his mouth. I

1448
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:06,239
think it's the most pathetic makeup job like, there are

1449
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:08,520
guys that will really work really hard on the makeup

1450
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,399
on their face, like stain Wood every single week, and

1451
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,119
he would just be walking out there in a bomber

1452
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:16,079
jacket even when he wasn't wrestling. Hey, he's putting all

1453
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:20,039
the makeup on and everything right, or Dustin Rhodes. This

1454
01:17:20,119 --> 01:17:22,319
guy takes a little bit of black makeup here and there. Oh,

1455
01:17:22,319 --> 01:17:25,920
I'm the pain maker, and so he's got the makeup

1456
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,720
on his face and he puts that silly, stupid, fucking

1457
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,800
clockwork orange hat on and then he makes a funny face.

1458
01:17:32,399 --> 01:17:36,720
He looked completely ridiculous. It felt like this was meant

1459
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,920
to be a parody. I can't take him seriously at

1460
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,920
this point with that shit on, I just can't. He

1461
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,439
looks so ridiculous making that face, and they just lingered

1462
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,319
on him for an uncomfortable amount of time. Darby Allen

1463
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:53,239
he barely survived Brian Cage, but it followed the same

1464
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:55,880
formula that every Darby match does. He takes a lot

1465
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,399
of really stupid bumps, an insane amount of punishment, but

1466
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,359
then just win end anyway, and Brian Cage continues to

1467
01:18:03,359 --> 01:18:05,840
be the resident jobber of the Don kallis family. But

1468
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,800
at least he looks good doing it right. Dude's as

1469
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,159
big as I've ever seen him. Darby is challenging Night

1470
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:15,119
this Wednesday for the TNT title. You could have made

1471
01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:17,000
things interesting. Here's one way you could have made things

1472
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,720
interesting by making it non title and saving that for Wembley.

1473
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,920
But instead make it a number one contenders match where

1474
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,720
the winner gets the shot at Kenny Omega redemption. At

1475
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,560
least that would have created some intrigue as to the outcome.

1476
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,159
Because you make that match non title, I think you

1477
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:36,399
get a lot of people convinced that Darby's going over,

1478
01:18:37,039 --> 01:18:38,920
and then when Kevin Knight wins, it kind of takes

1479
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,560
him off guard a little bit. But at least he

1480
01:18:41,239 --> 01:18:43,960
you know, he earns his way in because Kenny Kenny

1481
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,159
was right. He's like, look, MJF made you a promise.

1482
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:48,520
I don't give a shit what MJF promised you. You

1483
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,880
want a shot at the championship, you gotta fight for you.

1484
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,359
You have an issue with one Darby Allen lately, so

1485
01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:57,680
why don't the two way you fight for it? How

1486
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,199
can they couldn't set it up that way? I mean

1487
01:19:00,279 --> 01:19:02,640
Darby literally came out at the end of that segment anyway,

1488
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,520
and he attacked Kevin Knight. I think that would have

1489
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,800
been a better way to go about doing it. They

1490
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,479
saved the ladies for last, clearly because they were in Boston,

1491
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,600
and of course they were gonna have Mercedes Monett wrestling

1492
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,199
in the main event in Boston. It was Mercedes, Megan

1493
01:19:18,279 --> 01:19:21,920
Bain and Leana Cross against Willow Nightingale hi On and

1494
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,239
Maya World. Now I didn't watch this live, but apparently

1495
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:30,359
this started six or seven minutes into the overrun? Do

1496
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,039
I have that right? And they still took an ad

1497
01:19:34,039 --> 01:19:38,720
break in the overrun. I thought the match was fine.

1498
01:19:39,279 --> 01:19:42,000
My only issue was no Tecla on this show. Willow

1499
01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:45,560
is challenging Tekla for the title at Redemption. Her team

1500
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,199
lost to Mercedes and her team, who got the pin

1501
01:19:49,279 --> 01:19:51,920
on hi On to win it, and that's how they

1502
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,520
went off the air. There was stuff to like, there

1503
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,239
was stuff to dislike. Definitely a step down from Beach Break,

1504
01:19:59,039 --> 01:20:01,800
but we actually had I have a card now for Redemption,

1505
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,520
which looks like one that doesn't need to be happening.

1506
01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:07,000
This really didn't need to be a pay per view.

1507
01:20:07,039 --> 01:20:10,439
They only have fifty five hundred tickets out, maybe a

1508
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,439
little more than that by now for a show that's

1509
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,800
a week away. I know they usually do pretty good

1510
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,119
walk up sales, but unless they have a massive swing

1511
01:20:18,199 --> 01:20:20,520
this week, that is not good. For a pay per review,

1512
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,720
that is not a good number. Compare that with all

1513
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,239
in coming off Omega beating MJF to win the world title.

1514
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:29,640
They moved over four thousand tickets alone this past week

1515
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,600
to bring the total for Wembley still with six weeks

1516
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,840
left to go up over thirty one thousand tickets sold.

1517
01:20:38,079 --> 01:20:41,319
That's a lot better. And I said this on TNT

1518
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,399
the other night. JD thinks that they're going to clear

1519
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,560
fifty thousand for the Wembley show. I think he's nuts.

1520
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,359
I don't see that at all, But I do think

1521
01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:51,199
they'll end up around forty thousand or so. I would

1522
01:20:51,239 --> 01:20:53,640
say probably a little bit over forty K's where I

1523
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,359
think they'll end up. They did seventy something thousand for

1524
01:20:56,399 --> 01:20:58,439
the first one, they did fifty thousand plus for the

1525
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,640
second one, forty thousand for this one after they just

1526
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,520
added four thousand tickets. That sounds reasonable to me. Here's

1527
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,039
what Redemption looks like so far with my predictions, I'm

1528
01:21:11,079 --> 01:21:12,920
sure they'll be adding more. This week, we have the

1529
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,359
Painmaker Chris Jericho against Tamaso Champa. Champa won the first one.

1530
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,920
Jericho's going to win this one, and I think a

1531
01:21:20,079 --> 01:21:22,560
power drill is going to come into play here somehow,

1532
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,079
especially now that this match after collision last night, as

1533
01:21:26,119 --> 01:21:29,880
per Tamaso Champa, has been made no holds barred. This

1534
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,199
will be a Jericho win. Just added after collision last night,

1535
01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:39,560
Hikarushita will defend her TBS Championship against Maya World after

1536
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,319
Maya came to the aid of Queen am Nada, who

1537
01:21:42,399 --> 01:21:45,319
wrestled Shiita last night. I think Maya could be built

1538
01:21:45,399 --> 01:21:48,600
up to win the TBS title at some point. I'd

1539
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,600
rather that than the Ring of Honor Women's World title,

1540
01:21:52,279 --> 01:21:55,279
but it shouldn't happen here. Shida just won the belt.

1541
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,520
Doesn't feel like the right time to just take it

1542
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,760
off of her, and I wasn't even anamored with putting

1543
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,800
the belt unsheed it to begin with, but you did it,

1544
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,000
and so now it just feels like this is not

1545
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,119
the right time to do a title change. So this

1546
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:09,399
should be a Sheeta win. Adam Copeland and Christian Cage

1547
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,239
defend their AW tag team titles against Claudio Castig Nooleum Pack.

1548
01:22:14,119 --> 01:22:16,800
This will be a win for C and C. Kyle

1549
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,800
Fletcher defends the AW International title against Bandido. That'll be

1550
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:25,800
a retention for Fletcher. Mark Davis defends the AW National

1551
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,319
title against Andrade Ledelo and I'm sorry to say this

1552
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:32,359
is where the reign of Mark Davis comes to an

1553
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,279
end ANDROTI will win the national championship. I wonder if

1554
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:39,840
they just go back to Davis and Doyle as a

1555
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:45,359
tag team. Also just added John Moxley will team up

1556
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:49,199
with will Ospray to take on the Young Bucks. This

1557
01:22:49,319 --> 01:22:52,319
is what all these Moxley and Osprey team ups and

1558
01:22:52,399 --> 01:22:56,079
squashes on TV have been leading to. I believe their

1559
01:22:56,119 --> 01:22:59,439
first loss, and how does Moxley respond to that? This

1560
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,239
is going to be the first crack in the armor

1561
01:23:01,279 --> 01:23:04,159
between Osprey and the Death Riders. And if the Bucks

1562
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:06,039
are being built up for a tag team title match,

1563
01:23:06,039 --> 01:23:08,000
they shouldn't be losing this anyway. So I'm going with

1564
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,960
the Bucks for the win. I would think that that's

1565
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,640
the Wembley match right, first time ever the Bucks against

1566
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,479
C and C. But where might the New Day fit

1567
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,960
into all of this. They're free agents very soon, possibly

1568
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,279
as soon as next week. And that's another match that's

1569
01:23:22,319 --> 01:23:25,039
been bandied about for years, right, the big dream match

1570
01:23:25,079 --> 01:23:28,159
the Young Bucks and the New Day never seem like

1571
01:23:28,199 --> 01:23:31,760
it had any real shot of happening. But it's gonna happen, Oh,

1572
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,439
mark my words, it's gonna happen. Just a matter of when.

1573
01:23:35,239 --> 01:23:39,279
Teklo will defend the AW Women's World Championship against Willow Nightingale.

1574
01:23:41,039 --> 01:23:44,680
I really don't mind if either woman walks away with

1575
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,600
the title here to defend against Mercedes, but I think

1576
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,000
it's gonna be Willow. I think they're gonna go the

1577
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,600
babyface against Heel Route. I think it's gonna be weird

1578
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,119
if they do Tecla and Mercedes as the big women's

1579
01:23:56,119 --> 01:23:58,600
match on that show. It is a match that we

1580
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,560
haven't seen though, I'd be pretty keen on seeing it.

1581
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,279
But I think it's going to be Willow winning the

1582
01:24:03,359 --> 01:24:07,279
championship here. She won that Gauntlet, made her big return

1583
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,520
her team lost this past week on Dynamite. I think

1584
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,479
she wins the belt and Kenny Omega defends the AW

1585
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,640
World Championship against the Jets. The TNT champion Kevin Knight.

1586
01:24:20,199 --> 01:24:23,239
They've sold thirty one thousand tickets in counting for that

1587
01:24:23,279 --> 01:24:25,800
Wembley show, and a good chunk of those late sales.

1588
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,560
Or because Kenny Omega has been announced to wrestle will

1589
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,319
Ospray in the main event, Kevin Knight will not be

1590
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,039
jetting to the main event at Wembley Stadium. And we'll

1591
01:24:35,039 --> 01:24:36,920
see if this turns out to be a redemption arc

1592
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,760
for him, do they flip him right back to being Babyface?

1593
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,880
I mean, if it is there's speed running through a

1594
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:48,039
redemption arc for Kevin Knight, I'm not quite sure that

1595
01:24:48,079 --> 01:24:50,479
would make a lot of sense, But that was the

1596
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,760
feeling I got coming out of that Dynamite show. On Wednesday.

1597
01:24:54,199 --> 01:24:59,039
One more awn kind of aw note, Tony Kahan popped

1598
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:01,079
up as a surprise. There was a twenty four hour

1599
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:05,039
charity stream of the In the Weeds podcast hosted by

1600
01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:09,520
Jeremy Lambert of Fight Full. They were raising money for

1601
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,399
the National Alliance on Mental Illness and Tony popped up.

1602
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,720
It was a twenty four hour stream. This was towards

1603
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,279
the end of it and Tony com popped up and

1604
01:25:19,359 --> 01:25:23,520
he took part in nearly an hour long conversation. He

1605
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:28,319
was playing games. He was answering fan questions and during

1606
01:25:28,319 --> 01:25:32,319
the course of that conversation he talked about aw Rampage

1607
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,479
and where the name came from. He said the name

1608
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,520
of the show was inspired by a wrestling simulator that

1609
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,560
he used to play. He said, I grew up playing

1610
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:46,239
rampage wrestling, hence the name Rampage. This tracks. That actually

1611
01:25:46,239 --> 01:25:48,520
makes a lot of sense to me. I'm not surprised

1612
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,640
by that at all, but that's very cool. I think

1613
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,600
for the president of the company to just pop in

1614
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,359
like that for an hour, like it's nothing on a

1615
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,600
charity stream, that was very cool. I didn't see the

1616
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,119
entire conversation. I was wht bits and pieces of it

1617
01:26:01,159 --> 01:26:06,319
the other day. So very cool stuff. Now we can

1618
01:26:06,359 --> 01:26:11,680
get into the grand finale. Last week, Dark Side of

1619
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,880
the Ring Season seven kicked off with back to back

1620
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,479
episodes on Jeff Jarrett and The Battle for TNA Wrestling.

1621
01:26:19,119 --> 01:26:23,039
This week was the finale, and so you know, Weis

1622
01:26:23,079 --> 01:26:26,520
has released all three episodes in full on their YouTube channel.

1623
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,319
I hope they do that for every episode. I'm guessing

1624
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:32,039
they're only doing it because this was a trilogy, so

1625
01:26:32,079 --> 01:26:33,960
they have all three of them up. If they do

1626
01:26:34,039 --> 01:26:36,600
it every week. That would be amazing, but this may

1627
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,880
be the only time they do that. I like the

1628
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,399
first two episodes well enough, even though it was a

1629
01:26:41,399 --> 01:26:44,399
little too rosy when it came to Jeff Jarrett, especially

1630
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,640
when he was the champion hogging up the main events

1631
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,239
scene in TNA for years and years. If that was

1632
01:26:49,279 --> 01:26:51,880
anybody else, they would have been buried for it, and

1633
01:26:52,039 --> 01:26:54,479
he deserves criticism for that and missing the boat on

1634
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,520
people like Monty Brown when they had the chance to

1635
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,640
belt the guy up. But the third episode was just

1636
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,600
a gold mine when it comes to the worst of TNA.

1637
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:09,680
The Dixie Talent meeting, moving impact head to head with Raw,

1638
01:27:10,119 --> 01:27:13,479
the Jeff Hardy incident of Victory Road, Dixie clinging to

1639
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,600
Hogan's leg on TV when he decided to leave the company.

1640
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,920
Oh my god, where do we even begin with this?

1641
01:27:20,039 --> 01:27:23,920
How about where we left things with episode two? Jarrett

1642
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:27,079
had been removed from Power after the controversy over him

1643
01:27:27,079 --> 01:27:30,800
and Karen Angle getting together and Dixie. In the minds

1644
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,560
of Jeff and Karen, Dixie saw this as an opportunity

1645
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,119
to make a power play and move Jarrett out of

1646
01:27:37,159 --> 01:27:40,119
the way, and then they also had talked about the

1647
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:43,079
arrival of Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, which really I

1648
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:45,960
think there's a dividing line for TNA where you have

1649
01:27:46,079 --> 01:27:49,560
the Jarrett era, where TNA had its own distinct feel

1650
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,079
for the most part, and then the Hogan and Bischoff era,

1651
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,760
where it no longer felt like TNA anymore, especially after

1652
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,239
they got rid of the six sided ring, which is

1653
01:27:58,279 --> 01:28:00,880
one of the things that separated TNA from every other

1654
01:28:01,039 --> 01:28:03,640
US promotion at that time. That was one of the

1655
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,199
first things they did when they came in. Now, me personally,

1656
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,279
I never cared for the six sides, and I know

1657
01:28:10,359 --> 01:28:12,640
guys have said that it killed their bodies to bump

1658
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,880
in that ring. It was just it has to do

1659
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,439
with the cables and stuff underneath. It's just stiffer. It

1660
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,960
didn't have as much give as the traditional four sided

1661
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,960
wrestling ring, So in the long run, it was good

1662
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,960
that they switched away from it. Now had Hogan and

1663
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,039
bischofs cited wrestler's safety is the reason for the change,

1664
01:28:29,039 --> 01:28:30,880
I don't think people would have been as mad about it,

1665
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,000
But they were total heels when they made the announcement.

1666
01:28:34,039 --> 01:28:37,920
They sounded like assholes when they announced it. You wanted it.

1667
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:43,399
You got it, and now it's gone. The playpen is gone.

1668
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,279
Deal with it, right, Just a couple of real assholes

1669
01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:48,359
about it. And let's be honest, it had nothing to

1670
01:28:48,359 --> 01:28:49,479
do with wrestler safety.

1671
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: To them.

1672
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: It had more to do with Hogan probably not wanting

1673
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,600
to bump in that ring because he knew at some

1674
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,520
point he was going to be wrestling. Give me a break.

1675
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,640
Can you imagine Hulk Hogan with his back in the

1676
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,880
shape it was in bumping in a six sided ring.

1677
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:05,399
He would have been in a full body cast. But

1678
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,720
it was the idea of these guys coming in and

1679
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,000
changing things and moving away from what made TNA what

1680
01:29:12,039 --> 01:29:14,279
it was, you know, to go back to something that

1681
01:29:14,359 --> 01:29:16,239
Jared said at the end of the last episode when

1682
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,640
he said he thought Hogan coming in as a brand

1683
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,119
ambassador would be a great thing for TNA. If it

1684
01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:24,279
just kind of was kept to that, he's full of shit.

1685
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,079
If he honestly believed that Hogan was just coming in

1686
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:31,119
to be a spokesman for them and nothing more. I mean,

1687
01:29:31,159 --> 01:29:33,640
maybe he tried to convince himself of that, but deep down,

1688
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:38,319
there's no way that Jeff Jarrett believed that they covered

1689
01:29:38,359 --> 01:29:42,560
the infamous Dixie Carter talent meeting that aired on the

1690
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,960
November fifth, two thousand and nine episode of TNA Impact,

1691
01:29:47,399 --> 01:29:49,000
which is still to this day one of the most

1692
01:29:49,039 --> 01:29:51,439
embarrassing things that I've ever seen on a wrestling show.

1693
01:29:52,319 --> 01:29:54,479
And think of all the ground that covers, even just

1694
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,720
in TNA alone, at least most of the shit that

1695
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:01,279
we see on TV as a work, it's just bad television.

1696
01:30:01,319 --> 01:30:04,960
It's bad creative. This was a shoot. This was a

1697
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:08,039
real talent meeting that she thought was a good idea

1698
01:30:08,119 --> 01:30:11,479
to call in the first place. And then she thought,

1699
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,479
you know what would make this even better, Well air

1700
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,520
it on TV for all the world to see how

1701
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,039
delusional I really am. If you've listened to this podcast

1702
01:30:20,039 --> 01:30:22,760
for longer than a decade, and I know many of

1703
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,720
you have, you remember I used to call her delusional Dixie.

1704
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:31,079
I give you Exhibit B. I say exhibit B because

1705
01:30:31,119 --> 01:30:33,640
exhibit A was her bringing in hul Cogan thinking he

1706
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,880
would give a shit about anything other than hul Cogan.

1707
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:41,159
She was completely delusional, delusional Dixie. She calls this talent

1708
01:30:41,239 --> 01:30:44,199
meeting thinking that she's going to rally the troops behind her.

1709
01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:46,680
All she did was alienate most of the roster and

1710
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,399
show how out of touch she really was. She gathered

1711
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,720
them all together in the stands in the Impact Zone

1712
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,039
before that night's show, so they're all sitting in the crowd.

1713
01:30:56,039 --> 01:30:58,560
The wrestlers are like fans. It's like a teacher gathering

1714
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,000
her class of children to let them and she said,

1715
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,840
like ever since I took over as the TNA president,

1716
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,239
a lot of people have told me how to run

1717
01:31:07,279 --> 01:31:10,920
a wrestling company, and it's time for a change. She said.

1718
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:15,319
Nobody liked change or drastic moves, and while she respects

1719
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:19,000
those who had differing opinions of decisions that she was making,

1720
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,840
she expected them to support her one hundred percent. When

1721
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:28,039
you question things in this company, you question me, and

1722
01:31:28,079 --> 01:31:32,800
I cannot allow that to happen. Yes, dissent will not

1723
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:37,000
be tolerated. Is a great rallying message. She said that

1724
01:31:37,039 --> 01:31:39,039
she had made the choice to put her finances and

1725
01:31:39,039 --> 01:31:41,119
her passion behind all of the wrestlers, and it was

1726
01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:43,800
time for them to do the same. She said they

1727
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,720
had a choice to make. They could support her in

1728
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,680
the direction that TNA was going, or they could choose

1729
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,800
not to, in which case they would need to find

1730
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:56,359
a new place to work. Basically, She got a lot

1731
01:31:56,359 --> 01:31:59,199
of shit from people for bringing Hogan in, and those

1732
01:31:59,239 --> 01:32:02,640
people either need to deal with it or leave and

1733
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,439
look fair enough. She's the president of the company. She

1734
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,119
made a decision that she felt was in the best

1735
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:10,479
interest of her company and that would take it to

1736
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:14,039
new heights, right the rocket fuel for TNA. But her

1737
01:32:14,119 --> 01:32:18,359
tone here and deciding to air this on television was

1738
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:22,920
a horrendously bad decision, one that did more harm than

1739
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,239
good because all it did was kill the morale of

1740
01:32:25,279 --> 01:32:28,119
the locker room. And it tells them like, if we

1741
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:31,880
have genuine criticisms or concerns about where TNA is headed,

1742
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:38,159
she didn't give a shit. Keep it to yourself. Sound familiar.

1743
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,159
There are people running wrestling companies right now in twenty

1744
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:43,399
twenty six who also don't like dissent, and they don't

1745
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,479
like it when people criticize them. David Sahati, who worked

1746
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,439
in production for TNA at the time, said, this is

1747
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,760
where Dixie lost control of the locker room. All the

1748
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,720
wrestlers lost respect for her after this. Velvet Sky just

1749
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,239
last year on social media, I guess somebody posted the clip,

1750
01:32:59,279 --> 01:33:01,159
maybe it was on the app anniversary or something, and

1751
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:05,399
she quote tweeted it, and she said the consensus of

1752
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,399
the locker room and staff during this meeting was not

1753
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,520
one single person gave a shit what she was saying,

1754
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,640
and we actually had to take time out of production

1755
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,520
day for this nonsense from her, and it had to

1756
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,359
be filmed so that she could have her my way

1757
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,520
or the Highway ego stroked. Even more, she was not

1758
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,960
well received by most because of the way she treated

1759
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,640
people who could do nothing for her and the way

1760
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:32,880
that she would talk down to people vile that would

1761
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,760
have been nice to hear from Dixie. You know what

1762
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,960
her thought process was on this, But again she was

1763
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,279
asked to be on she never responded to any of

1764
01:33:39,319 --> 01:33:42,119
those requests to sit down for an interview, and so

1765
01:33:42,199 --> 01:33:45,279
she didn't appear on any of these episodes. What's funny

1766
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:47,880
is that she told the wrestlers, if you don't support

1767
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,039
me or my vision, you need to find another place

1768
01:33:50,079 --> 01:33:54,680
to work, and supposedly Homicide and low Key and maybe

1769
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,880
others did just that. They asked for their release and

1770
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,159
they were turned down, so she immediately back down from

1771
01:34:01,199 --> 01:34:03,439
what she had said. It kind of reminds me of

1772
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,880
a very similar meeting that Eric Bischoff once held backstage

1773
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,319
at a WCW show, only he had enough sense not

1774
01:34:10,399 --> 01:34:13,920
to film it and put it on TV and Eric

1775
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,520
on Nitro that night. To be fair, some of those

1776
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,800
guys were out of control back then. They were saying

1777
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,880
all kinds of things publicly, and he probably did have

1778
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,560
to sit them down and talk to them. Raven was

1779
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,399
one of those people. He had gone on a radio

1780
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:31,159
show to complain about his position on the card and creative,

1781
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,720
so he got singled out in the meeting with a

1782
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,920
few other people. I think Conan was one, Raymisterio was another,

1783
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,279
and Bischoff said, anyone who doesn't want to be here

1784
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,279
and you want their release, you can have it. And

1785
01:34:43,399 --> 01:34:44,960
Raven took them up on the offer, and he ended

1786
01:34:45,039 --> 01:34:47,479
up going back to ECW because there was a period

1787
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,279
where they said, okay, you can't work for WWF until

1788
01:34:50,279 --> 01:34:52,119
your contract is up, and so he went to go

1789
01:34:52,159 --> 01:34:55,960
work for ECW. Interesting how Eric only went after mid

1790
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,920
card talent in that meeting and single down mid card talent.

1791
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,199
I don't recall him single out any of the higher

1792
01:35:01,199 --> 01:35:04,199
paid guys, who I'm sure were all on their best

1793
01:35:04,239 --> 01:35:07,560
behavior like choir boys, and there were no issues with

1794
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,720
any of them. Not wanting to do jobs or anything else.

1795
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:16,439
I'm sure they were perfect little angels. So anyway, the

1796
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,520
Hogan era has begun. Hogan brings in all of his friends,

1797
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,760
right down to the Nasty Boys, who contributed absolutely nothing

1798
01:35:25,039 --> 01:35:27,920
to TNA. It was obvious why they were there. It

1799
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,119
was an easy paycheck. Russo says that he was told

1800
01:35:31,119 --> 01:35:34,560
that Bischoff was only in to oversee creative for Hogan

1801
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,039
because there were a lot of issues going back to

1802
01:35:37,079 --> 01:35:41,119
Bash at the Beach two thousand with Russo and Hogan Eric.

1803
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,159
They didn't like each other, so Russo and Eric they

1804
01:35:45,159 --> 01:35:47,239
had to have a clearing of the minds so that

1805
01:35:47,279 --> 01:35:50,119
they at least knew they could work together. But again,

1806
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:52,960
Eric was only supposed to be overseeing creative for Hogan,

1807
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:56,640
but Russo says that Eric's play was to get control

1808
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:01,600
over everything, to which Bischof says things thing evolved into

1809
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:06,520
him ending up leading creative. You gotta be really full

1810
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,159
of shit to get me to take Vince Russo's side

1811
01:36:09,159 --> 01:36:11,760
of things here where Russo comes off as the sensible

1812
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,399
one and the sympathetic one, but Bischoff managed to pull

1813
01:36:14,399 --> 01:36:18,800
that off in this episode and then came as I

1814
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,159
called it at that time when I covered it in

1815
01:36:21,239 --> 01:36:25,399
real time, not the Monday Night War, but the Monday

1816
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,439
Night skirmish. Oh my goodness, I had quite the time

1817
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:32,199
covering this on the sound of Like. It's like a

1818
01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:36,880
slow motion car crash, right, It's moving slowly, you could

1819
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,319
see it coming. It's like the iceberg, the ship hitting

1820
01:36:39,319 --> 01:36:42,279
the iceberg, and there's just nothing you can do. Brace

1821
01:36:42,319 --> 01:36:45,960
for Impact, that's all you can do. This was an

1822
01:36:46,039 --> 01:36:50,000
Eric Bischoff idea to move TNA Impact Monday nights head

1823
01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:55,039
to head to compete with WWE. He said that it

1824
01:36:55,079 --> 01:36:58,239
was more about creating brand awareness. He was aware of

1825
01:36:58,279 --> 01:37:00,439
the fact that it probably wasn't going to work, but

1826
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:04,520
it was more about creating brand awareness. No, it was

1827
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,119
more about trying to recreate the one great period of

1828
01:37:07,159 --> 01:37:10,800
success that he enjoyed as a wrestling executive, which was

1829
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:14,119
those eighty three weeks that Nitro beat Raw in the ratings.

1830
01:37:14,159 --> 01:37:17,600
He parlayed that into thirty years of other things, all

1831
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,720
built on the back of those eighty three weeks and

1832
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,840
good for him. But here he thought, well, maybe we

1833
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,000
could recreate that magic again. That's really what was going

1834
01:37:26,039 --> 01:37:29,920
on here. Impact, which aired on Thursdays back then was

1835
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,680
moved to Monday nights, and they kicked off with a

1836
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:36,159
live three hour special on Spike TV opposite Monday Night Raw.

1837
01:37:36,199 --> 01:37:38,680
Dixie Carter had just signed Hogan and Bischoff. This was

1838
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,960
going to be their debut that night. Kevin Kay, who

1839
01:37:43,039 --> 01:37:45,840
was the president of Spike TV at the time, said

1840
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,039
the plan would be to air quarterly specials on Mondays

1841
01:37:49,079 --> 01:37:51,000
throughout the year and if the ratings for this show

1842
01:37:51,039 --> 01:37:55,279
were strong, they can move Impact to Mondays permanently. Not

1843
01:37:55,359 --> 01:37:57,920
only did the show feature the debuts of Hogan and Bischoff,

1844
01:37:59,079 --> 01:38:03,439
Rick Flair made his debut that night, Scott Hall returned,

1845
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,920
Kevin Nash returned, Sean Waltman Sting, Jeff Hardy all made

1846
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:12,439
their return. They had debuts for Valvenus, Orlando Jordan, and

1847
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,960
the Nasty Boys. WWE countered with the return of Brett

1848
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,479
the Hitman Heart for the first time in twelve years

1849
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,720
since the Montreal screw Job, and TNA made sure at

1850
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,159
a time Hogan's entrance ride at nine PM when Brett

1851
01:38:26,199 --> 01:38:29,720
was walking out on Raw. Of course I stuck with Brett,

1852
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:32,039
but I admit, I mean, look, I had my finger

1853
01:38:32,079 --> 01:38:34,439
on the remote like it was nineteen ninety eight all

1854
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:38,239
over again. Raw had over five and a half million

1855
01:38:38,319 --> 01:38:42,279
viewers that night to TNA's two point two million, their

1856
01:38:42,359 --> 01:38:45,079
biggest ever audience up to that point, and in the

1857
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:48,720
sixteen years since they never came close to that number again,

1858
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,560
and they never will. It's impossible. Television is just different

1859
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:56,359
now than it was back then. Actually, they peaked with

1860
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,920
over three million viewers for Hogan's entrance, so that was

1861
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,760
all Spike needed to see to move the show full

1862
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,199
time now again. The plan was, we'll do quarterly things

1863
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:08,560
and if they do well, maybe we'll do a permanent move.

1864
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,199
They saw the numbers that this debut show put up

1865
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,960
and they got stars in their eyes, and so they

1866
01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:19,359
just moved the show full time to Monday night starting

1867
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:24,640
in March, and it was an absolute fucking disaster. Like

1868
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,560
Leeroy Jenkins, but in TV form, they stormed the castle,

1869
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,119
they got slaughtered, and by May they moved the show

1870
01:39:31,159 --> 01:39:34,399
back to Thursdays. Now. I will admit part of me,

1871
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,840
as a fan, thought it was cool to have that

1872
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:38,880
head to head competition again. It was It's one of

1873
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,800
those things where like, ah, you know what, try it.

1874
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:43,760
If it doesn't work, you go back to doing what

1875
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,359
you were doing before. But as a fan, I think

1876
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:50,039
I was more starved for something fun than anything else.

1877
01:39:50,279 --> 01:39:52,000
But I also had the benefit of not having to

1878
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,239
worry about the financial implications and the business implications of

1879
01:39:55,239 --> 01:39:58,319
what they were doing. Them having to tuck their tail

1880
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,359
and move back to their old slot so soon after

1881
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:06,359
was really embarrassing, And so Bischoff is like, well, you know,

1882
01:40:06,399 --> 01:40:09,119
we did it to create more brand awareness. Well you did,

1883
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:11,880
but in the worst possible way. You created an awareness

1884
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:15,880
of how sad the brand was because it just showed

1885
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:20,600
you retreating in defeat, and their house show numbers went down,

1886
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:24,199
their television ratings went down, and they were forced into retreat.

1887
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:27,119
It was just a really embarrassing situation. They just didn't

1888
01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:30,640
have the money to compete with Vince McMahon. Dilo Brown

1889
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,359
said it best in the episode. He said they were

1890
01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:36,880
the fly on the ass of a rhino. Now, Jeff

1891
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:40,439
Jarrett claims that Hogan took TNA from a profitable company

1892
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:43,439
making money to a financial death spiral in the span

1893
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,520
of twelve months. I would love to see the documentation

1894
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:49,079
to prove that. I mean, it's easy to say that

1895
01:40:49,079 --> 01:40:51,520
that they were profitable and they were making money, and

1896
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,399
now they weren't. It's not crazy to think, with all

1897
01:40:55,399 --> 01:40:58,680
of their expenditures that that's what happened. But I don't

1898
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,119
know that this has ever actually been verified that you know,

1899
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:04,720
TNA was making money and turning a profit, and if so,

1900
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,119
how much that profit was and how much they swung

1901
01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:10,479
in the opposite direction after the first twelve months of

1902
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,560
the Hogan era. I don't think it's ever been verified.

1903
01:41:14,279 --> 01:41:16,239
After that, Jarrett was asked to step back in the

1904
01:41:16,319 --> 01:41:20,119
ring because remember Dixie had basically shunned him to the side.

1905
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:22,560
They come to him with this idea, I want to

1906
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,760
get you back in the ring to do an angle

1907
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:29,680
with Kurt Angle, an angle with Angle, playing off their

1908
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,720
real life issues over the whole Karen thing. This was

1909
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:36,640
a Vince Russeau idea. Dixie signed off on it and

1910
01:41:37,159 --> 01:41:40,720
Jeff was shocked. You know, he's like she signed off

1911
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:44,239
on it. She said, okay, he's like yep. And it

1912
01:41:44,279 --> 01:41:46,319
was easy for Jeff and Karen to play the heels

1913
01:41:46,359 --> 01:41:48,680
with Kurt being the babyface because the fans thought that

1914
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,680
Kurt was cheated on. He was the victim in all this.

1915
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,760
He was the sympathetic one in this story, even though

1916
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,920
that's not really how it went down, but they played

1917
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,319
it that way for TV. As Karen so eloquently put

1918
01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:05,479
it in the episode, it was a fucking storyline. And

1919
01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:07,760
as I said last week, the two of them actually

1920
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,840
had some really good matches together after that. They covered

1921
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:16,680
the Victory Road incident in twenty eleven with Jeff Hardy,

1922
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,359
which maybe, as I think back to all of the

1923
01:42:20,359 --> 01:42:24,880
different just examples of LOLTNA over the years, I think

1924
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:28,640
this is the single lowest point in TNA history. This

1925
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,880
was like the very worst of TNA. Jeff is in

1926
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,039
a much better place these days. I'm happy to see it.

1927
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:37,560
Jeff will tell you though he was a fucking mess

1928
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:42,199
back then, and Bischoff says they knew that Jeff was

1929
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:45,520
on drugs, but for the most part, he had it

1930
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:50,039
under control, is what he said. That was his response here.

1931
01:42:51,279 --> 01:42:53,319
Jeff Hardy and Sting were scheduled to meet in the

1932
01:42:53,319 --> 01:42:56,319
main event on the pay per view no disqualification for

1933
01:42:56,399 --> 01:42:59,560
Sting's title. Bischoff is one of the people, as was

1934
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,000
dil Brown, who was the agent for the match, who

1935
01:43:02,039 --> 01:43:04,079
agreed to let Jeff go to the ring that night.

1936
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:05,960
Even though they all agreed Jeff was not in a

1937
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:10,119
good place. He was not in a good state. Bischoff

1938
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:12,239
actually said that he agreed to let Jeff go to

1939
01:43:12,279 --> 01:43:14,359
the ring with the hope that he would just walk

1940
01:43:14,399 --> 01:43:18,079
it off. I don't know if he said this, if

1941
01:43:18,119 --> 01:43:20,279
he admitted to this thinking that it would give us

1942
01:43:20,319 --> 01:43:22,680
some sort of insight into his thought process and it

1943
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:26,000
would make him look better. It definitely does not make

1944
01:43:26,079 --> 01:43:29,960
him look better. What kind of fucking answer is that, Oh,

1945
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,880
we know the man is on drugs and this is

1946
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:34,880
a bad night. Clearly he's not in his right frame

1947
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,399
of mind, and nobody can find where he is. By

1948
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:39,920
the way, he's supposed to go out to the ring,

1949
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,039
they're playing his music. The fact that no one thought

1950
01:43:44,039 --> 01:43:47,199
to intervene right then and there and come up with

1951
01:43:47,239 --> 01:43:55,239
a plan B is deplorable, spineless. Even Jeff walks out

1952
01:43:55,239 --> 01:43:59,199
to the ring after a long delay. He finally walks out,

1953
01:44:00,039 --> 01:44:03,520
almost falls over a couple of times, and is behaving

1954
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:08,359
very erratically. Bischoff calls an audible finally, a little too late,

1955
01:44:09,399 --> 01:44:12,520
goes out to the ring to very covertly communicate to

1956
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,880
Jeff that he needs to, in so many words, get

1957
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,520
the fuck out of the ring right now. And go

1958
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,960
to the back. Then he goes over to Sting and

1959
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:22,239
he tells Sting, look, hit him with your finish pin

1960
01:44:22,359 --> 01:44:24,560
him and get this over with as quickly as possible.

1961
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,399
And if you watch it, when Sting takes him down

1962
01:44:27,399 --> 01:44:29,640
with the scorpion death drop and he hooks the leg,

1963
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,159
Jeff tried to kick out, Sting had to hold him

1964
01:44:32,199 --> 01:44:35,600
down and he got the three count. Everybody is shocked.

1965
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,199
The fans are shocked. Mike Tinay and Taz on commentary,

1966
01:44:38,199 --> 01:44:40,680
they don't know what to make of this. This is

1967
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,640
their pay per view main event and it was over

1968
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:47,319
inside of ninety seconds. Dilo says that there were a

1969
01:44:47,399 --> 01:44:50,439
million right choices and one wrong one, and they made

1970
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,880
the wrong one. Yeah, I would say, to say the least.

1971
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,720
Jeff says that Jeff Hardy, the drug addict, died that night.

1972
01:44:59,039 --> 01:45:01,720
He was a wake up call for him. Matt said

1973
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:03,880
that Jeff stopped taking pills that night. I mean that

1974
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,920
may be true. But then came the alcohol addiction, which

1975
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,960
is a whole other story, one that Jeff Jarrett would

1976
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,840
soon find out about himself, because they transitioned from this

1977
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,920
into Jarrett's own addiction issues that followed many years later,

1978
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,880
but before they get to that, we have the end

1979
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,960
of Hulk Hogan in t and a less than four

1980
01:45:25,039 --> 01:45:28,079
years later, it is time to leave. We have bled

1981
01:45:28,119 --> 01:45:31,119
this place dry. It is time to go back to

1982
01:45:31,199 --> 01:45:35,920
our home planet, our home planets of Titan, and take

1983
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,720
the wwe paycheck. Our time here and our work here

1984
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:43,119
is done. But it wasn't enough for Hogan to just

1985
01:45:43,159 --> 01:45:46,159
disappear now. Bischoff said that Hulk wanted to go out,

1986
01:45:46,199 --> 01:45:49,479
at least in a story on TV, which is what

1987
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,079
led to the infamous segment on Impact where Hogan tells

1988
01:45:52,079 --> 01:45:54,840
Dixie Carter, who was offering him a new contract to

1989
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,399
stay in storyline, Oh, that sounds like a great idea

1990
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:03,159
great offer for someone else. I quit. And as Hogan

1991
01:46:03,239 --> 01:46:08,600
is leaving, Dixie, the president of the company, is literally

1992
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,760
down on her knees, latching onto Hogan's leg as he's

1993
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:17,359
walking with her, latching onto his leg like a child

1994
01:46:18,319 --> 01:46:20,960
as he tries to leave, and she's begging him to stay.

1995
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,800
And you wonder why Hogan always insisted on having creative

1996
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,760
control in his contracts. This is why this woman gave

1997
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,039
him everything he wanted. She was naive enough to believe

1998
01:46:33,079 --> 01:46:37,119
in him and his desire right, as Hogan one said,

1999
01:46:37,119 --> 01:46:39,720
to make TNA the number one wrestling company in the world,

2000
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,079
which he knew was never going to happen, but she

2001
01:46:42,239 --> 01:46:46,399
believed in it. She bought into the hype because she

2002
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,960
didn't know any better, and as Russo said in the episode,

2003
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,239
for all the money that they paid him, it was

2004
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:55,199
his choice or Bischoff, probably Bischoff who came up with

2005
01:46:55,199 --> 01:46:57,640
the idea to have him leave the way he did

2006
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:04,800
and humiliate this woman national television. She so badly wanted

2007
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,640
to be a character on the show that she thought

2008
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,600
it was a great idea. But if Hogan had creative

2009
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,520
control and this is what he wants to do, there

2010
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,119
probably wasn't much that she could do about it, because

2011
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:16,640
she was stupid enough to let him have it in

2012
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,640
the first place. Jarrett says that he never would have

2013
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:22,560
allowed something like that to happen if he was the

2014
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,039
one who was still in power. He says, it says

2015
01:47:25,079 --> 01:47:28,159
everything about Dixie's knowledge of the business that she would

2016
01:47:28,359 --> 01:47:33,600
lower herself to that and allow something like that to happen. Now,

2017
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,119
they did get into Jeff leaving TNA starting up Global

2018
01:47:37,239 --> 01:47:40,720
Force Wrestling. Global Force Wrestling for those who don't know.

2019
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,399
They did a tour of around twenty dates at various

2020
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,800
minor league baseball stadiums across the country. The photo they

2021
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,960
chose to use here in the episode, they showed the

2022
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:56,119
six sided ring in virtually empty stadium. No mention of

2023
01:47:56,199 --> 01:48:01,119
Global Force Gold. They conveniently left that out. So the

2024
01:48:01,159 --> 01:48:05,840
deal with Global Force really Global Force Wrestling itself. When

2025
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:07,800
it was formed, the idea was that it would be

2026
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,279
this global alliance of different promotions all coming together and

2027
01:48:11,319 --> 01:48:16,279
working together Kumbaya and Jarrett. He announced various partnerships with

2028
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:20,720
New Japan and TRIPLEA. He even helped get Wrestle Kingdom

2029
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,039
in twenty fifteen on a pay per view in the

2030
01:48:23,159 --> 01:48:26,159
United States, So that was the idea behind it. They

2031
01:48:26,199 --> 01:48:28,159
taped a bunch of TV episodes. They were going to

2032
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:30,960
use it as pilots to shop around to different TV networks.

2033
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:34,000
Those episodes never saw the light of day. I think

2034
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,359
it was called the Amped like GFW Amped I think

2035
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,840
was the name of the show. Never saw the light

2036
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:43,239
of day. There was litigation years later between Jarrett and

2037
01:48:43,319 --> 01:48:45,520
Anthem over who owned the rights to the footage, and

2038
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,319
then we come to find out that Anthem said they

2039
01:48:47,399 --> 01:48:50,840
deleted all the master tapes, so they don't exist anymore anyway.

2040
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,279
All of that got settled in twenty twenty one. But

2041
01:48:54,319 --> 01:48:56,479
while GFW was still a thing, if you went to

2042
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,680
the website, you may have gotten a pop up ad

2043
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,840
for something called Global Force Gold and a video that

2044
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,760
you would click on, and it's a video of Jeff

2045
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,399
Jarrett asking you to watch another video to find out

2046
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:12,319
how you can join Team Jarrett. And that other video

2047
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,039
was an ad for something called Carrot Bars Carrott with

2048
01:49:15,079 --> 01:49:17,960
a K, which was a German company that they dealt

2049
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:22,239
in precious metals, including gold bullion. Carrot Bars was said

2050
01:49:22,279 --> 01:49:24,720
to be a Ponzi scheme where they got people to

2051
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,159
invest in gold. Really, all they were doing was selling

2052
01:49:28,319 --> 01:49:30,960
very very small amounts of it at a super high price,

2053
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,079
and then they would try to get you to recruit

2054
01:49:33,159 --> 01:49:35,600
new people as a way for you to earn money.

2055
01:49:36,079 --> 01:49:40,119
It's almost like an affiliate program, I guess of sorts,

2056
01:49:40,119 --> 01:49:42,760
But like the idea of like buying gold at all,

2057
01:49:43,039 --> 01:49:44,840
like the fact that they even got Jarrett to go

2058
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,920
on camera to shill this did not speak well to

2059
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:52,239
their financial situation at the time. This was not something

2060
01:49:52,279 --> 01:49:54,840
that Jarrett was doing on his own like, oh, like

2061
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,399
Jarrett has his podcast now right, podcasts have sponsors. He

2062
01:49:58,399 --> 01:50:00,840
has sponsors, I have sponsors, right. That's kind of become

2063
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:04,520
the standard thing. You wouldn't even think twice if Jeff

2064
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,479
Jarrett went on his podcast or his YouTube channel and

2065
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:11,119
they had him shilling for a company and promoting something,

2066
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:13,960
because we see that all the time. This was on

2067
01:50:14,079 --> 01:50:17,520
the Global Force Wrestling website. This was not just Jeff

2068
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,319
Jarrett personally. This greeted you on the way would be

2069
01:50:20,359 --> 01:50:23,399
like going to WWE dot com and fucking Nick Kahn

2070
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:27,560
is sitting there in his loft, his suite at the

2071
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:32,319
new WWE headquarters, and he's got this great, great idea

2072
01:50:32,399 --> 01:50:35,399
for you to get in on this gold, bullion in

2073
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,880
silver and all these precious metals, and all you have

2074
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:39,800
to do is click a link and watch the video,

2075
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,840
or click the affiliate link and sign up. Like you

2076
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:48,000
would say, go fuck yourself. This was on the website.

2077
01:50:48,039 --> 01:50:51,359
When you have Double J trying to sell you gold

2078
01:50:51,399 --> 01:50:55,439
bars on the internet, it says a lot about their

2079
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:58,199
situation at the time. Apparently it's lost media now I

2080
01:50:58,279 --> 01:51:00,680
look for it. I can't find this video for anything.

2081
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,239
I know it exists because I saw it, but it's

2082
01:51:03,279 --> 01:51:06,239
considered lost media now can't find it anywhere. Maybe one

2083
01:51:06,279 --> 01:51:09,239
day somebody will post it up again somewhere. But that

2084
01:51:09,399 --> 01:51:14,239
was Global Force Gold but wait. TNA then gets sold

2085
01:51:14,239 --> 01:51:17,600
to Anthem because Dixie's father got tired of losing all

2086
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,239
of his fucking money. So they changed the name of

2087
01:51:20,279 --> 01:51:23,560
the company from TNA to Impact Wrestling, and they floated

2088
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,920
the idea by Jared of a merger with Global Force.

2089
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,800
I just remember it causing a shit ton of confusion

2090
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,439
when this happened. I couldn't figure out the branding, like

2091
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:37,960
what was Impact and what was Global Force? And then

2092
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,359
they had all these titles and there were Global Force

2093
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,840
tight like. It was very confusing, But Jeff really thought

2094
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,640
that he could make things work again, which is why

2095
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:47,479
he agreed to do it, even though his wife was

2096
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:50,800
very skeptical. Why are you getting back in business with

2097
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:54,800
these people? You know? He had escaped the asylum, so

2098
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,680
to speak, but then he got lured back in with

2099
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,920
visions of grandeur. As it turned out there was no money.

2100
01:52:00,399 --> 01:52:03,079
He says he was fed a bunch of bullshit, and

2101
01:52:03,159 --> 01:52:06,399
this is where his issues with alcohol began. He would

2102
01:52:06,399 --> 01:52:08,880
show up he would be loaded at work and everybody

2103
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,920
would see it. He was drinking morning, noon, and night

2104
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,439
until one day, Jeff says he was at a pool

2105
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,720
party and he looks down and he sees a beer gut,

2106
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:22,680
and he said, not on my watch, I'm never gonna

2107
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:25,399
have a beer gut. And that was the day that

2108
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:29,800
he switched from beer to vodka because I don't want

2109
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:31,960
to have a beer gut, and I've never heard of

2110
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:35,079
a vodka gut, so we'll just switch to vodka instead.

2111
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:40,479
That's the healthy choice. Vodka is the devil, by the way, Okay,

2112
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,439
the one thing I would have on occasion when I

2113
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:45,159
would be out, like with friends, if I wasn't having

2114
01:52:45,199 --> 01:52:47,640
like a jack and coke, Oh yeah, give me a screwdriver,

2115
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:51,399
give me a vodka whatever. If I had one, I

2116
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:54,119
was fucked up for the night. I said, I'm not

2117
01:52:54,199 --> 01:52:56,960
doing this. This is ruining the whole night. This man

2118
01:52:57,039 --> 01:52:59,239
switched to vodka and was drinking it like it was

2119
01:52:59,279 --> 01:53:04,000
a soft drink. And then came Triplemania in twenty seventeen,

2120
01:53:04,039 --> 01:53:06,800
where he was just drinking in the locker room NonStop.

2121
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,840
He flew in the day before, was drinking, woke up

2122
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:14,520
the next morning drinking, got to the building drinking, and

2123
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,920
they include footage from what I believe, I want to

2124
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:20,720
say it was a Vampiro documentary, so they had footage

2125
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,920
of him backstage that night and he's just gone, I mean,

2126
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,199
the man is sloshed. And what he did was very

2127
01:53:28,279 --> 01:53:30,640
much like the Jeff Hardy thing, where people could tell

2128
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,319
that he was slashed, and they still allowed him to

2129
01:53:33,319 --> 01:53:35,960
go out there anyway, only this time he started tossing

2130
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:41,319
tortillas out to the fans in Mexico. So after all this,

2131
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,880
Anthem was embarrassed. They wanted him to go to rehab.

2132
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:47,479
He did outpatient treatment four hours a day for six weeks,

2133
01:53:48,119 --> 01:53:51,800
and he kept on drinking and until one night Karen

2134
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,279
confronted him about it and said, what are you going

2135
01:53:54,319 --> 01:53:57,760
to do here? And he got serious about getting the

2136
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,359
treatment that he needed. She called WWA because through their

2137
01:54:01,399 --> 01:54:04,159
wellness program, they offer rehab to talents that need it.

2138
01:54:05,159 --> 01:54:07,640
And you know, look, it may have been, in his

2139
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:12,399
own words, a pr stunt by Vince McMahon, but it

2140
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:14,479
has honestly been one of the best things that company

2141
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:17,920
has ever done, is making those services available to talents

2142
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,520
who need it at no cost to them. Even years

2143
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:24,079
after they're gone from the company. Who knows how many

2144
01:54:24,079 --> 01:54:27,680
lives that they've saved with that. So Jeff said, you know,

2145
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,680
he never really grieved Owen's death. He never really grieved

2146
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,000
the death of his first wife. He just sort of

2147
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,039
buried it deep down. And he finally confronted that and

2148
01:54:36,119 --> 01:54:39,319
had to do so. He reconciled with his father, who

2149
01:54:39,319 --> 01:54:42,039
he hadn't spoken to for over a decade, and then

2150
01:54:42,119 --> 01:54:44,359
in twenty eighteen, he gets the call to be inducted

2151
01:54:44,359 --> 01:54:47,279
into the WWE Hall of Fame, so he gets the

2152
01:54:47,359 --> 01:54:50,560
nice full circle moment for his career. They didn't talk

2153
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,560
about WWE hiring him the following year as a producer

2154
01:54:54,039 --> 01:54:56,920
and then later on promoting him to their senior vice

2155
01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:01,000
president of Live Events before he was repla by road Dog.

2156
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,960
There's something poetic and funny to me about the roadie

2157
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:08,560
taking Jeff Jarrett's job, but that's literally what happened. And

2158
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,079
then he lands in aw which is where he still

2159
01:55:11,079 --> 01:55:12,960
works to this day, and they got Tony Khan to

2160
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,079
come on to talk about Jeff. I'm curious if he

2161
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:17,600
pops up in any other episodes this season, if they

2162
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,800
filmed anything else with Tony or if he just agreed

2163
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,399
to sit down just to talk about Jeff Jarrett. And again,

2164
01:55:23,439 --> 01:55:26,279
his footage in this was very, very limited at the

2165
01:55:26,359 --> 01:55:29,319
very end of the episode, but they closed out talking

2166
01:55:29,319 --> 01:55:32,960
about how Jeff changed the business, and Vince Russo said

2167
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,640
that if Jeff had never lost control of TNA, God

2168
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:39,359
knows where they would be right now. I can tell

2169
01:55:39,399 --> 01:55:41,479
you where that TNA would be right now. TNA would

2170
01:55:41,479 --> 01:55:44,319
either be dead or exactly where it is right now.

2171
01:55:45,479 --> 01:55:47,520
The idea that Jeff Jarrett would have been the one

2172
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,279
to lead TNA to the Promised Land, or you know,

2173
01:55:50,399 --> 01:55:52,359
lead them to heights that no one else has been

2174
01:55:52,399 --> 01:55:54,520
able to bring them to after nearly a quarter of

2175
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:59,560
a century in business is laughable to me. And I'm

2176
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:02,039
not trying to throw shade on Double j. It's just

2177
01:56:02,079 --> 01:56:05,279
the truth. Like the glaze was very very strong here

2178
01:56:05,319 --> 01:56:08,640
in these episodes for him. That would be my one

2179
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:12,239
big critique about these episodes. But I don't think the

2180
01:56:12,279 --> 01:56:14,840
company would be much better off than it is right

2181
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:18,159
now had Jarrett stayed in power. The only thing that

2182
01:56:18,199 --> 01:56:20,840
has sustained them for all these years is the money

2183
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:24,640
that was poured into it, first by Bob Carter and

2184
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:28,319
then later on and to this day by Anthem Sports.

2185
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:33,720
That's what keeps them afloat and creatively or otherwise. I

2186
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,680
really don't see, you know, Jeff Jarrett being in power

2187
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,399
over these twenty plus years, and man TNA is so

2188
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,760
much higher than they are now. I really don't think

2189
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:47,000
it would have made any difference. But the wrestling business

2190
01:56:47,079 --> 01:56:49,760
is for sure better off for having, you know, him,

2191
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:52,960
having founded TNA in the first place, and the opportunities

2192
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:58,079
that it gave talents like aj Styles, Samoa, Joe Abyss,

2193
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,520
Bobby Rude, City Machine. I mean, you can go down

2194
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:05,680
the list to ply their craft and get opportunities on

2195
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:08,920
larger platforms somewhere else. I mean, Abyss had his chance

2196
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,000
to go to WWE in two thousand and six, but

2197
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,079
he got cold feet. He opted to stay. It also

2198
01:57:15,199 --> 01:57:18,000
cost us, by the way, an earlier Sting run. The

2199
01:57:18,119 --> 01:57:21,880
existence of TNA cost us Sting coming in earlier than

2200
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:26,960
he did to WWE because Dixie kept feeding him these

2201
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,840
one year extensions to stay. But it also gave us

2202
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,760
Kurt Angle in TNA, which Kurt says was even better

2203
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,319
than his WWE run. It was definitely longer, but they

2204
01:57:37,319 --> 01:57:39,079
were able to do all of these things because they

2205
01:57:39,079 --> 01:57:41,239
were able to get national TV, which is not an

2206
01:57:41,239 --> 01:57:45,760
easy thing to do. So these episodes were heavily focused

2207
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,439
on Jeff because he was the main subject, more so

2208
01:57:48,479 --> 01:57:51,520
than TNA was. They did have an idea to do

2209
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:55,439
six episodes covering TNA. I guess that got turned down.

2210
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,319
Whatever reason, it didn't happen, so it morphed into into

2211
01:57:58,359 --> 01:58:00,960
this instead. So at least they found a different way,

2212
01:58:01,079 --> 01:58:03,359
kind of a back doorway, to cover enough of the

2213
01:58:03,399 --> 01:58:05,760
company to where it ended up being more entertaining than

2214
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:07,319
it would have been if it was just a double

2215
01:58:07,399 --> 01:58:10,960
j story and nothing more. The main characters were Jeff

2216
01:58:11,039 --> 01:58:13,520
Jarrett and Dixie Carter, and we only got to hear

2217
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:16,039
from one of those main characters, which did hurt things.

2218
01:58:17,079 --> 01:58:21,159
We got plenty of LOLTNA moments covered here. They did

2219
01:58:21,319 --> 01:58:24,239
leave out a bunch because I mean, it's just impossible

2220
01:58:24,279 --> 01:58:27,760
to cover it all in just three episodes. The Jenna

2221
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:33,560
Morasca Charmel debacle, the Claire Lynch storyline with aj Styles,

2222
01:58:34,479 --> 01:58:39,680
August First Warning, with the debut of Tito Ortiz Samoa

2223
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,720
Joe being kidnapped by ninjas and returning with a penis

2224
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:47,399
tattoo on his face, Dixie Carter costing TNA it's TV

2225
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:52,239
deal with Destination America. This absolutely should have been mentioned.

2226
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:57,399
She cost this company a TV deal because she accidentally

2227
01:58:57,439 --> 01:59:00,479
copied the president of the network on an angry email

2228
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,880
bashing them and calling them dummies. And I think like

2229
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,880
a week later they got canceled of, Like this really happened,

2230
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,520
by the way, I mean, it's just a never ending

2231
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:14,760
parade of shit over the years. And yet, as Scott

2232
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:18,039
Steiner says in one of the episodes, TNA should have

2233
01:59:18,079 --> 01:59:21,720
died a million deaths, but they're still here. And that

2234
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:24,199
really is the story of TNA that despite it all

2235
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,239
the odds being against them time and time again. So

2236
01:59:27,279 --> 01:59:30,600
many wrestling companies they fold, you know, for one reason

2237
01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:34,560
or another, and yet TNA lives on despite all of

2238
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,560
their snaffoos and all their brain dead business decisions. This

2239
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:41,479
is the company that will not die. It will outlive

2240
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,800
us all or at least until WWE gets bored and

2241
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,600
eventually decides to buy them out for the tape library.

2242
01:59:49,359 --> 01:59:52,720
That just feels inevitable. This week, coming up, it's the

2243
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:57,119
story of Samoa Joe against Necro Butcher from IWA Mid

2244
01:59:57,199 --> 01:59:59,920
South in two thousand and five, so a very different

2245
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:02,840
for this next episode coming up, but it should be

2246
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:06,319
interesting to see. Let me go through a couple of

2247
02:00:06,359 --> 02:00:08,560
questions here. I mean, I have a whole mail bag

2248
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,800
here of like fifteen of them, but we're gonna save

2249
02:00:11,119 --> 02:00:13,000
most of that for next week. There's two here I

2250
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,000
want to get into. You could email me the Solomaster

2251
02:00:15,079 --> 02:00:17,159
at gmail dot com. Please include your name of where

2252
02:00:17,159 --> 02:00:20,399
you are from when you write in. Daniel from Spring,

2253
02:00:20,439 --> 02:00:23,279
Texas says, I was watching Raw and during the Hell

2254
02:00:23,319 --> 02:00:26,159
and a Sale vignette where they were showing how serious

2255
02:00:26,199 --> 02:00:28,159
it is. Did you notice in all the clips they

2256
02:00:28,199 --> 02:00:31,640
did not show one of Mick Foley, like he was

2257
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:35,159
completely snubbed of the history involved in that match. What

2258
02:00:35,319 --> 02:00:37,279
was your take on that and did you even notice it?

2259
02:00:38,199 --> 02:00:40,560
I did not notice it, but it doesn't surprise me.

2260
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:44,479
I mean, they're a very petty company, so it doesn't

2261
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:48,520
surprise me in the least. Michael and san Diego says,

2262
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:50,720
I've been watching Dark Side of the Ring and have

2263
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:53,239
been loving the show and your reviews. One thing that

2264
02:00:53,359 --> 02:00:56,520
wasn't covered in the dock that always left me puzzled

2265
02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:00,760
was the departure from Spike. The whole Russo axed emailing

2266
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,720
Mike Johnson and not Mike Tenay was hilarious. Yeah, that's

2267
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:07,039
another one. I forgot to mention. What confused me is

2268
02:01:07,079 --> 02:01:10,399
why Spike cared about Russo. Was there anything in particular

2269
02:01:10,439 --> 02:01:12,720
that he did or wrote that offended them. Did they

2270
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:15,880
really cancel Impact because Dixie lied to them about Russo

2271
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:19,279
working for TNA? Or was it a simple money issue

2272
02:01:19,279 --> 02:01:24,640
over broadcast rights. So this has been talked about and

2273
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:27,600
debated a lot over the years. There was an incident

2274
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:31,199
where an email went out to the wrong Mike. It

2275
02:01:31,279 --> 02:01:34,680
was very embarrassing. It was very on brand for TNA

2276
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,760
at that time. And Dixie did bring back russeou I

2277
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:41,640
think as a consultant at one point, and didn't want

2278
02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:44,720
anybody to know about it, which really says a lot

2279
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:46,520
like you're going to bring this guy back, but let's

2280
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:50,720
not tell anybody. It's like TNA bringing in Tessa Blancher

2281
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:53,720
back to the company and smuggling her in like contraband

2282
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:55,680
in the dark of night and not wanting to tell

2283
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,039
anybody out of fear of what the reaction would be.

2284
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:02,079
If you have to go under like a covert operation

2285
02:02:02,359 --> 02:02:05,800
to do something, maybe you shouldn't be doing it, just

2286
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:09,000
the thought. So all of that did happen. Was Russo

2287
02:02:09,039 --> 02:02:14,840
the one responsible for Spike canceling TNA impact According to

2288
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,119
the president of Spike TV at that time, the answer

2289
02:02:17,159 --> 02:02:20,079
is no. And this was written about in the Beyond

2290
02:02:20,159 --> 02:02:23,800
Nitro book. Guy Evans did that great book on nitro.

2291
02:02:24,279 --> 02:02:27,279
He did another one called Beyond Nitro and gets into

2292
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:30,439
TNA stuff in there, and funny enough, he had just

2293
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:35,399
recently posted an excerpt about this very thing. So it

2294
02:02:35,479 --> 02:02:37,600
was kind of fortuitous here that I got this question.

2295
02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:40,760
But I'll read to you just from part of the

2296
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:45,199
excerpt here from the book, which is about the Russo

2297
02:02:45,279 --> 02:02:49,000
stuff and his secret involvement in TNA and the idea

2298
02:02:49,039 --> 02:02:51,960
that that was a last straw in the relationship between

2299
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,880
TNA and Spike TV. Kevin Ka, who used to be

2300
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,359
the president of Spike TV, said that at the end

2301
02:02:58,359 --> 02:03:00,640
of the day, the decision came down to rats and money.

2302
02:03:01,439 --> 02:03:03,640
He said it had reached a point where the ratings

2303
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,720
were just not improving, and after being in business for

2304
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:10,439
a bunch of years, the license fee well nowhere near

2305
02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:14,520
WWE or UFC was very cost prohibitive. At some point

2306
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,479
we ran the math, and it was like, the ratings

2307
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:19,439
don't match the price. We also still didn't have any

2308
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,920
kind of robust advertising revenue. The salespeople didn't really feel

2309
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,079
like they could break the wall down about wrestling. So

2310
02:03:26,119 --> 02:03:29,279
the deal was up and we were like sorry, Unfortunately,

2311
02:03:29,359 --> 02:03:32,239
we had a good run. Dixie tried to come back

2312
02:03:32,239 --> 02:03:34,720
with a plan to reduce the budget, but my sense

2313
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:38,399
was that reducing the budget wasn't the problem it was,

2314
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:41,640
or rather, it wasn't like it was all that much

2315
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,119
money anyway. It was a good amount of money, but

2316
02:03:44,199 --> 02:03:47,119
cutting the budget wasn't going to increase the ratings. It

2317
02:03:47,199 --> 02:03:49,760
was probably going to do the opposite. So we just

2318
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:54,039
made the decision to let it go. And reporting by

2319
02:03:54,079 --> 02:03:58,199
Mike Johnson, a PW insider, later revealed that as part

2320
02:03:58,199 --> 02:04:01,720
of the negotiations, TNA had so elicited a rights fee

2321
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:07,520
of twenty six million dollars, whereas Spike, in what represented

2322
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:10,960
quite the difference, countered with an offer between fourteen and

2323
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:15,439
sixteen million, and Kevin Kay says that sounds about right.

2324
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,279
I'm going to estimate that twenty six million would have

2325
02:04:18,279 --> 02:04:20,479
been almost double the rights fee that we were paying

2326
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:23,279
them at the time. Somewhere in that ballpark and that

2327
02:04:23,399 --> 02:04:25,600
was never going to happen. If we were going to

2328
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:28,000
renew it, it probably would have been at the same price,

2329
02:04:28,119 --> 02:04:32,800
no more or even less. My decision, and our decision

2330
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:35,159
is a company, was like, the ratings are not going up.

2331
02:04:35,319 --> 02:04:37,600
Cutting money is not going to help, so it's time

2332
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:41,159
to move on. And I had heard that as well.

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That you know. Dixie was adamant that this is this

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is how much we want, and Spike was, Nope, this

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is how much we think this is worth. This is

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how much we're willing to pay. And think about that, like,

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they still would have been getting in the tens of

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millions of dollars and that wasn't enough for Dixie. Dixie thought,

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oh we could get more. She overplayed her hand and

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in the end it cost them a TV deal, not

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the only TV deal that Dixie cost this company, as

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I just got done talking about an errant email cost

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them a second TV deal later on. This woman didn't

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have a fucking clue what she was doing. Did not

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have a clue anyway. Hopefully that clears things up on

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that front again. I'll get more into your questions next week.

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We got a bunch of them. Hopefully we'll get a

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bunch more. Keep emailing me. You could also follow me

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on x at Solemn Monster, subscribe on YouTube. Got live

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streams going on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays every single week.

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Tuesday will be a brand new installment of The Uncrowned

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Wrestling Show, which you could sub to on the Ariel

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Helwani Show feed where you get your podcast from. Tuesday

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night will be a brand new episode of Tuesday Night

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Titans that'll be live over on JD's channel, and next

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Sunday will be episode nine to seventy three of the sound.

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Next Sunday is also aw Redemption. Probably will be going

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live after Redemption as well. I like the fact that

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they bumped up the start time by an hour. I

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think that's gonna be very helpful. So there's gonna be

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a bunch of shows coming up. I hope you guys

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will be there with me. I hope you guys will

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keep supporting and as long as you're around, I'll keep

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doing what I do. So until then, be well, stay safe,

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have yourselves a great rest of your weekend and a

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great week. I will see you on the streams and

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then back here next Sunday for episode nine seventy three

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of the Sound Off. Until then, take care, guys. The

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Solemn Monster Sounds Off. Pin Ballad is no more. How

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about that Finn Balor actually wins a match. I'm pleasantly surprised. Granted,

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of course, you know it was against the MFT so

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I said before. You know, pin Balor is gone, but

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I didn't say pin Balor was gone forever. He'll be back,

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pinn Balor. From what I understand, I got some breaking

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news here. This isn't even news that Meltzer had or

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Sap or anybody else or wrestle votes or wrestle votes

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or anyone. I hear from my and my sources. Pin

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bow is actually away on vacation. Irony has gone back

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to go you know, visit the family. Uh, he'll be back.

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Oht believe me, he'll be back, and it won't be

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very long before he's back.

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Speaker 2: The Solo Monster Sounds Off bringing you the good, the bad,

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Speaker 1: I love you so long.