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<v Speaker 1>Oh bed of that Sardre, Hello and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Cult of Conspiracy and now I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>Cajea night and boy oh boy, A lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>are going on right now across the world, but let's

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<v Speaker 2>just talk about here at home right now in the

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<v Speaker 2>good old u A. As of time of recording, it

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<v Speaker 2>is Monday, Okay, this episode probably won't come out until Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you like to get this episode as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as possible, the earliest you can get it, and also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, of course, get these shows. Absolutely the any

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<v Speaker 2>to go to patreon dot com slash cult to Conspiracy podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only place to get the video evidence, see

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<v Speaker 2>the articles, see our faces, and get these shows. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, But also the reason why I'm pushing that

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<v Speaker 2>as of this moment because you're probably gonna get hit

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<v Speaker 2>with ads and commercials and all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, this one's gonna be a deep one.

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<v Speaker 2>And this might even get us band off of certain places,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, because as of time of recording,

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<v Speaker 2>we just did a little bit of a TikTok live

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<v Speaker 2>and people who listen to the show know how much

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<v Speaker 2>I love tic tac or whatever the fuck it's called

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<v Speaker 2>y'all know how much I love that app However, we've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten shadow band.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to the Patreon members though for coming and

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<v Speaker 4>Clutch and they came over and checked it out, and

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<v Speaker 4>I posted on there and they came over and was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to help us out.

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<v Speaker 5>And then they came, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Of them and came and Clutch coming on the live

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<v Speaker 4>to try to help us get unshadowed band. But my

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<v Speaker 4>personal ones banned and are and the cult conspiracy because

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking, maybe, you know, let me post on

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<v Speaker 4>because I had posted quite a few of them, and

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<v Speaker 4>I noticed about two days ago we stopped getting views,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I said, well, let me just post one

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<v Speaker 4>on mine to see what happens. I should not have

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<v Speaker 4>done that, because apparently I fucked myself just as much so, But.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we didn't post anything that was objectively offensive, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And even if.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly I was pumped about the two of them, they

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<v Speaker 4>were just like funny meme clips right shorts over a

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<v Speaker 4>single image of Trump sending troops into Iran and another

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<v Speaker 4>one about the Pyramids and the old Boys being right

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<v Speaker 4>about the Pyramids of like having shit underneath it, so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that kind of ties in to not only

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<v Speaker 2>what we're gonna be talking about in this episode, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the timing of everything is very, very,

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<v Speaker 2>very strategic.

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<v Speaker 3>So we just got shadow band on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully over the next couple of days, that's gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>away and we're going to go back into the realm

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<v Speaker 2>of free speech. Right now, why is this, you might

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<v Speaker 2>be asking, Well, unless you're living under a rock, you

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<v Speaker 2>probably have heard that Oracle has bought TikTok, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least the American subsidiary of it. Now, there's some pros

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<v Speaker 2>to this, there's some cons to this. A pro the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese have lost their data loop, their information loop to

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, and that's a very good thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's gonna be tons of people it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really being used as spy where I'm sorry, Literally, all

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<v Speaker 2>evidence to the contrary, TikTok was being used one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent as a propaganda mechanism and as a way to

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<v Speaker 2>have the CCP basically have an integral part into your

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<v Speaker 2>daily life, into your cell phone. That's not it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a theory, that's a guarantee. Now, I'm not super jazzed

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<v Speaker 2>that Oracle has now bought it out, because Oracle would

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<v Speaker 2>be soon to be your AI god, your AI daddy,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will. They're the ones that pretty much have

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<v Speaker 2>the final filtering say so on what does and does

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<v Speaker 2>not make it through onto anything Internet related in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. What's making your algorithm, Oracle, why is it

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you talk about cat food over and over again

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't even own a cat, somehow you'll start

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<v Speaker 2>seeing commercials for cat food on your YouTube or your

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Oracle, that's all this is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an AI algorithm database, and that's all being done

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<v Speaker 2>very very very strategically. Now, Oracle buying TikTok is a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a misnomer because, yes, while they did buy it,

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<v Speaker 2>there was actually three parts. There's a three part tryune

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<v Speaker 2>to who just bought the American version of TikTok, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guarantee you're not gonna be able to guess the

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<v Speaker 2>other two. If you had to take a shot out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, I will say that, I will say this,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just skip names. I'll give you hints. One of

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<v Speaker 2>them is from a country, and one of them is

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<v Speaker 2>from a computer company.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, I feel like I know I know the answer

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<v Speaker 4>to one of I know one of them, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to remember what the hell the name. I glanced

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<v Speaker 4>at it. I no oracle, and I noticed, like are

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<v Speaker 4>a three split? They like share fifteen percent each yep

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<v Speaker 4>of it, And I just can't, for the life of

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<v Speaker 4>me picture the name.

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<v Speaker 5>Who is it? Again? I can't remember?

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<v Speaker 3>So you ever had a Dell computer?

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<v Speaker 5>Del Man, that's an old one.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't have thought it, but old. I think his

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<v Speaker 2>name is Michael Dell. I got an article pulled up

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<v Speaker 2>on him here. He bought one portion of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Abu Dhabi what Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, the fucking Arabs just bought a chunk of American TikTok.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm not surprised, but my point is you

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<v Speaker 6>would have thought.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have thought that perhaps Moussad would have bought it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a little Nette Yahoo, maybe a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jews would have come in and boughts. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>not at all. The Muslims are making their way in.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I know so many people are very angry

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<v Speaker 2>of me for having this take. I acknowledge that Israel

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely puppeteering our government for decades, not denying now whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>What I am saying is.

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<v Speaker 2>That Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have moved in

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<v Speaker 2>and they are buying up swaths of the American propaganda

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<v Speaker 2>machine and swaths of our government hand over fist right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that Israel does not still have their play.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that apak is not a thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>see it. I'm with you. What I'm saying is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a changing of the guard happening right before our

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<v Speaker 2>very eyes, and people are still pissed off at Israel

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<v Speaker 2>for shit that went down twenty years ago, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledging what's going on right now. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to negate the ship from twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying we need to see the writing on the

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<v Speaker 2>walls and realize who's about to be the overlords.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, yeah, I mean, but if you look at

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<v Speaker 4>the whole push to convert the world into, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a Muslim state, it's not really a shock to me

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<v Speaker 4>that they would be buying up large amounts of any

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<v Speaker 4>kind of social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now, I will say of these countries, right, Qatar

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<v Speaker 2>and UAE, which Abu Dhabi, that's UAE United Arab Emirates.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a lot more how could I put this without

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sound offensive, They're a lot more uh, progressive

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<v Speaker 2>and some might even say liberal and moderns as compared

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of their other Islamic.

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<v Speaker 3>Counterparts, which is fine. It's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia, so many things are still going down over there,

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<v Speaker 2>they like the human rights atrocities are still happening, like

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<v Speaker 2>people still getting their hands cut off for stealing people.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the worst things about the Islamic world that people

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<v Speaker 2>want to say is like a human's rights violations and

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff that's still going down in Saudi Arabia

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<v Speaker 2>or Saudi whatever. But because they give us really good

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<v Speaker 2>deals on oils and because they're a homie, we just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna turn a blind eye to it. Right There was

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<v Speaker 2>that big uh there was a big comedy I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, a not a conference. What's the word,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the like when a bunch of bands come to

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<v Speaker 2>a city, Like, what's a festival?

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<v Speaker 3>There's a big festival there.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, I'm like, I don't know what you're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about. Right now.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a big comedy festival that just went down

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<v Speaker 2>in Saudi Arabia and they were throwing astronomical numbers out

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<v Speaker 2>to get some of the headlines and all of these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and like it was nothing to have a guy be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>this this the royal family was offering me three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to go do one hour of stand up

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like this. And you had a lot of comedians,

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<v Speaker 2>even the uber liberal types who have been up and

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<v Speaker 2>down shitting on the America's connection to these these animals.

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<v Speaker 3>And bah bah bah blah blah blah bah.

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<v Speaker 2>They took the bag and they curtailed their comedy for that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was they completely hord themselves out. And for

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<v Speaker 2>the record, don't think that Jacob's over here judging nobody

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<v Speaker 2>on how they get their bag.

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<v Speaker 3>You do you baboo. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But you had a few comedians that was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm not taking it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them was a Shane Gillis, who I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan of, and he straight up was like no, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the dude that gave us nine to eleven, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not performing comedy for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And everybody's like wait what No, Sama bin Laden.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like every single dude that was on the plane

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<v Speaker 2>that hit the twin towers were Saudi Arabian. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>miss me with going to Saudi Arabia and and doing

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<v Speaker 2>a performance, I don't care how much the money is, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's my point.

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<v Speaker 2>They are trying right now to change their image, to

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<v Speaker 2>soften their image.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess they're going off of the assumption that

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<v Speaker 2>if you throw enough money at a problem, people will forget.

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<v Speaker 5>And maybe I mean and a lot of people do that, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>So now cut to the situation with TikTok. Oracle owns

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<v Speaker 2>the lion's share of it. Now, Oracle being the same

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<v Speaker 2>people that are watching us. That's big brother, Like no shit,

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<v Speaker 2>that is big brother Eagle Eye one hundred percent. But

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<v Speaker 2>on top of that, now we have Dell, the computer

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<v Speaker 2>company that most would say fell off into obscurity, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're still there somewhere, and Abu Dhabi, the UAES company

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<v Speaker 2>mg X, which you're gonna talk about more in detail here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I gotta tell you, I am relieved that China

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<v Speaker 2>is no longer using TikTok to get the information loop

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<v Speaker 2>on Americans. I think that's great. I'm also, at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time not happy that Oracle has now gotten it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna talk about it all in specific here.

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<v Speaker 2>China's got a lot going on right now. They just

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<v Speaker 2>had a whole ass coup attempt from one of G's

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<v Speaker 2>top general Tell me that I pulled up. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. It's and again, this is why I think

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<v Speaker 2>the timing of it is so so strange, so particularly strange.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention you. Look at what's going on with

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<v Speaker 2>Iran right now. Okay, they have confirmed thirty thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>were murdered in two days and over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty thousand were injured. Just to give everybody a comparison

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<v Speaker 2>the Holocaust never happened. You shut up just two seconds,

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<v Speaker 2>just hear me out. The best comparison that we can

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<v Speaker 2>find is when Nazi troops went into Ukraine and slaughtered

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<v Speaker 2>Jews in villages, they also achieved thirty thousand dead in

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<v Speaker 2>two days. That's not a number that people are able

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<v Speaker 2>to really wrap their heads around. Iran just murdered thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand of their own citizens in two days and injured

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<v Speaker 2>over one hundred thousand more. Right, this is now people, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fuck ton right, and this is now being

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed by multiple international groups.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit in some sort of a smear.

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<v Speaker 2>Campaign, a propaganda campaign, all these things. Now, with that

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<v Speaker 2>being said, Iran has not been seen too favorably by

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<v Speaker 2>some of their key Islamic brothers, if you will, katar Ua,

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia, none of them like Iran. They're super not

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<v Speaker 2>happy with them. And there is a thought to say

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<v Speaker 2>that America might be I'm not saying invading Iran, but

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<v Speaker 2>attacking Iran sometime this week. I'm not saying that I

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<v Speaker 2>even believe that or not. And again, this episode is

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<v Speaker 2>it's very possible that by the time you hear this,

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<v Speaker 2>that has already taken place.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I wanted to get the comparison

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<v Speaker 4>against Rwanda. So in one hundred days of killing spree,

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<v Speaker 4>eight hundred thousand were in two days of killing. The

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<v Speaker 4>large portion of people that were not that got killed

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<v Speaker 4>by their own people.

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<v Speaker 3>What was it in two days?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, and I was just.

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<v Speaker 4>Saying, like, compared to to Iran, Iran, Iran, whenever you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said eight hundred thousand in one hundred days, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's eight hundred per day. No, no, no, no, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that's eight My math is horrible. But as I get

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<v Speaker 2>a calculator, eight hundred thousand divided by was it one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred days? Was the genocide?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, honestly or shorter than that, But it says

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred days of killing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I knew it was a good eight thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>So eight thousand a day, and that is like massive numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran killed thirty thousand in two yeah. And again I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that people are going to look at that number

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<v Speaker 2>and say that, oh, well, those numbers are conflated.

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<v Speaker 3>How can we verify because we have set.

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<v Speaker 5>Thousand, you know obviously in two days.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, twice as much, almost twice as much as.

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<v Speaker 2>What was being done in Rwanda. And again this is

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<v Speaker 2>by satellite imagery. We can see the mass graves that

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<v Speaker 2>are currently going down. And now that they have lifted

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<v Speaker 2>the whole internet band, people are recording, the videos are

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<v Speaker 2>coming out, the pictures are coming out. These are not

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<v Speaker 2>crazy astronomical numbers that people are throwing out to pull

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<v Speaker 2>on the world's heartstrings.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut to the Ayatola just fled ran and he's now

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<v Speaker 2>in Moscow. The guy, the top religious dude, Ayatola Kamani,

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<v Speaker 2>probably mispronouncing his bitch ass name, and I'm good with that.

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<v Speaker 2>He just ran to Russia because his people are that

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<v Speaker 2>pissed off at him.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no shit, he just killed thirty thousand people, so uhuh.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course it was all good because Allah probably

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but what I am going to say

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<v Speaker 2>is that the Muslim countries, one of them being the

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<v Speaker 2>UAE that just bought a chunk of TikTok super jazzed

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<v Speaker 2>up with Iran. Now we can all kind of see

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a clenching of power that's going on between China, Russia,

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<v Speaker 3>These three. Some are calling them the Axis of Evil.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whatever, but I don't I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this TikTok by was very, very strategic, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>the purchasing because they've been trying to do that for

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<v Speaker 2>over a year, the timing of it, the timing of it,

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<v Speaker 2>is rather critical.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems really interesting. They actually I was just looking at

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<v Speaker 4>they just confirmed it. It's even more people like even

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<v Speaker 4>they thirty six hundred or thirty six five hundred people, excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>Me the last report of thirty son of a bitch thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>They just yeah, it had just confirmed like an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but that was That wasn't even the worst part.

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<v Speaker 2>They were giving people lethal injections in hospitals who came

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<v Speaker 2>in wounded. What oh yeah, no, there's videos of this.

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<v Speaker 2>There were people that were screaming, that had like a

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<v Speaker 2>bullet wound to the leg. The doctor was coming around

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<v Speaker 2>and giving them lethal injections to kill them.

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<v Speaker 5>That's absolutely horrific.

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<v Speaker 2>And the worst part is the Iranians were at the

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<v Speaker 2>UN talking to them last week begging for help silence.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that there's a pile of bodies, all they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>is okay, thank you for the acknowledgement.

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<v Speaker 3>Where the fuck were you last week? Though?

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<v Speaker 5>Hm?

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<v Speaker 3>So, anyway, Ron.

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<v Speaker 4>Crams against humanity. He should be held by NATO accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>He should have been a long time ago. In my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>The dude's a oh yeah, but he should be held

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<v Speaker 4>like hopefully he'll get tried because of everything that's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I see it. Multiple applications of lethal injection.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, and there's there's reports. I've seen the videos.

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<v Speaker 2>You could hear the people screaming, and there's like there's

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<v Speaker 2>AI dubbing at the bottom to where you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>like what they're actually saying, like translated. These people are

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<v Speaker 2>screaming for their lives as they're being held down and

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor's sticking them with a needle.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's it's horrible that's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>There, it said. Medical workers say the protesters were often shot.

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<v Speaker 4>In the head or neck with the intent to kill.

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<v Speaker 4>Many were killed by multiple bullets. Some were shot from

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<v Speaker 4>behind while they were trying to flee among the dead,

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<v Speaker 4>or children among the dead, or the.

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<v Speaker 3>Old pregnant women.

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<v Speaker 4>So then were most of the it says, women and

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<v Speaker 4>children and the old. Most of them were young people

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<v Speaker 4>under the age of thirty. Ye They burned school buses

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<v Speaker 4>and transit buses. Yeah, it says that they were actively

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<v Speaker 4>shooting people to kill them, that they were given a

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<v Speaker 4>lethal order.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that has not really much to do with TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, I do think it's all connected, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it is connected too, because the sensory of information

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<v Speaker 4>the censorship. Yeah yeah, And that way they can control

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<v Speaker 4>the narrative too, because the one post that I did

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<v Speaker 4>post was one was about Tucker Carlson and COVID, and

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<v Speaker 4>the information about being censored was the first one that

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<v Speaker 4>got us flagged.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh don't worry, Tucker's going to come up later in

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<v Speaker 3>this episode, but continue.

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<v Speaker 4>So the second one was Iran, the third one was Egypt.

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<v Speaker 4>I posted another one about Greenland, and I posted one

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<v Speaker 4>about NATO, and none of them went through, not one

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<v Speaker 4>of them.

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<v Speaker 5>So all of them were flagged.

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<v Speaker 4>And from what I can tell from other people I've

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<v Speaker 4>been following, I went to the big content creators so

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<v Speaker 4>that I follow, and it looks like the majority of

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<v Speaker 4>them that have anything to say about ice, about Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 4>about anything to do with politics of any type of

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere around the globe. Anything that's happening that's other than

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<v Speaker 4>like a dog dancing around is getting shadow band right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's oh my god. The Minnesota ice thing. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to spend much time on it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am going to say this. I will say this on it,

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<v Speaker 2>your boy. Some some are saying that he actually was

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<v Speaker 2>an Ice agent. That was all a stage thing and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever because he was carrying a sig P three twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, you know who carries sig P three twenties

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<v Speaker 3>Ice agents? That is fucking ridiculous, the sig or P

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<v Speaker 3>three twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather, for those that don't know, if anybody is into

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<v Speaker 2>guns and has seen how there's these SIGs that are

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<v Speaker 2>going off in people's holsters and like the military bought

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of them and they had to have a

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<v Speaker 2>big recall because there was an airman that was shot

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<v Speaker 2>and killed and all these things. This gun went off

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<v Speaker 2>on its own. Cops are not allowed to carry them anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not allowed on firing ranges because they're so unreliable

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<v Speaker 2>and they will go off. The whole guns don't kill

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<v Speaker 2>people people to no, this one does on its own.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the weapon that this guy had on him.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're saying that that's what ice carries. No, it's not, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not at all. So it's just it's mind blowing

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<v Speaker 2>to me. But that whole situation with that white boy

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<v Speaker 2>that got killed in Minnesota, I'm sure we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it soon more in depth, because that's just that's

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous on But anyway, all right, moving on, So the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian situation, your boy ran to Moscow.

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<v Speaker 3>China situation. There was a coup attempt just a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of days ago, a couple of days before TikTok was

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<v Speaker 2>bought by America, and TikTok was China's baby. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a bit dances or bit I gotta look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got an article pulled up talking about it, bite Dance,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it's called.

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<v Speaker 3>That was their money maker.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the entire country by any means, but that company

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<v Speaker 2>that is owned by the CCP. What possibly do you

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<v Speaker 2>think went down to make it seem like a really

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<v Speaker 2>good idea for China to sell their information loop to

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<v Speaker 2>from a country that we are currently in a Cold

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<v Speaker 3>That's mind blowing. I can't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine a world where in the Cold War with Russia

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<v Speaker 2>and America, Russia had an intel plug to the hearts

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<v Speaker 2>and minds of the America population and then somehow in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of that they sell it to America.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know like it.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought it was really strange too that they would

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<v Speaker 4>give that up, especially with all the having the spies

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<v Speaker 4>here and them trying to acquire more Land and them

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<v Speaker 4>doing and having that military presence here.

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<v Speaker 5>What was it. It was like a little base or

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<v Speaker 5>something that they had.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're trying, Yeah, and they had, like you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, they've had all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised that they would give up there. They're one

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<v Speaker 4>thing to where it helps program the American people and

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<v Speaker 4>they can sway and change whatever it is because they

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<v Speaker 4>know that most.

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<v Speaker 5>People are watching TikTok and use it.

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<v Speaker 4>So for them to give it up, it had to

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<v Speaker 4>be something absolutely serious.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and I don't believe that we had any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of real leverage on China for this one. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been seeing some reports China's population some experts are

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<v Speaker 2>now saying is actually a lie. Some are saying that

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<v Speaker 2>China's population is actually quite close to America's population and

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<v Speaker 2>that it's all affront interesting. So the way they're calling this,

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<v Speaker 2>you could look at China's census bureau from the nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>So to have they shouldn't have killed all their children

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<v Speaker 5>and gave them away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, agreed, agreed that might help them out, but that

427
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<v Speaker 2>was also they can't afford to feed their people, so

428
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<v Speaker 2>here's the background on that one. Before the Industrial Revolution

429
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<v Speaker 2>and the introduction of communism, right, the majority of China

430
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<v Speaker 2>was farming. It was big agriculture, which they needed to

431
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<v Speaker 2>feed the massive amount of people that they had. Your

432
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.200
<v Speaker 2>boy comes in Old Mao and makes it a communist country.

433
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<v Speaker 2>All right, Cool, Now he's getting all these farm hands

434
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<v Speaker 2>and putting them into factories. Well, the problem is the

435
00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.759
<v Speaker 2>farm hands are what used to feed the country. They're

436
00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:58.160
<v Speaker 2>no longer there, so now the farms go to waste,

437
00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and now there's not enough food to go around.

438
00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Now if you look at him in.

439
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.079
<v Speaker 2>The nineteen fifties as opposed to now, let's just break

440
00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:10.079
<v Speaker 2>this down. It takes two people to make a baby, right,

441
00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:14.160
<v Speaker 2>and if two people have two kids, they just replaced themselves.

442
00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:16.759
<v Speaker 2>They didn't add or take away from the population. It

443
00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:20.039
<v Speaker 2>was a one to one swap out basically. So to

444
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<v Speaker 2>get to China from what it was in the fifties

445
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<v Speaker 2>to what they're claiming.

446
00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Now with a billion people or whatever.

447
00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>That means that every woman in China would have had

448
00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:32.880
<v Speaker 2>you had somewhere between five to seven babies apiece.

449
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<v Speaker 3>No way, they didn't do that.

450
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<v Speaker 4>They did not do that. They had a very strict

451
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<v Speaker 4>ban on how many children they could have.

452
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<v Speaker 2>The one child policy only came around in the late nineties, right,

453
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<v Speaker 2>So even even just going from the fifties to the nineties,

454
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<v Speaker 2>you're telling me for forty fucking years that every woman

455
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<v Speaker 2>in China was pumping out five to seven puppies apiece.

456
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, that's not reality. Let alone. They can't feed

457
00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:04.400
<v Speaker 2>that nini nor produce that mini. So it's just it's

458
00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 2>it's nonsense. It's absolute nonsense. So some experts are actually

459
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<v Speaker 2>claiming that China's population, especially after the one child policy,

460
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>they are saying, at best they have five hundred million,

461
00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:20.000
<v Speaker 2>and that is a very very generous estimation on that.

462
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<v Speaker 2>So I think that the image of.

463
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 3>The great China is finally starting to be lifted.

464
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:33.319
<v Speaker 2>The world is finally aware that it's all been affront

465
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Their military is nothing impressive, their tech is nothing impressive,

466
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<v Speaker 2>Their manufacturing capability, the slave labor, they have killed most

467
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>of them. And if during COVID they locked down so many,

468
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.039
<v Speaker 2>they have killed probably another one hundred thousand only in

469
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<v Speaker 2>the last five years.

470
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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's not what you're looking at.

471
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<v Speaker 4>The average number of children per woman around was around

472
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<v Speaker 4>six in the early nineteen fifties. In China, the government

473
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:10.519
<v Speaker 4>promoted large families during the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties.

474
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<v Speaker 4>The fertility rate began in a decline in the late

475
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<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventies due to economic reforms. The one child policy

476
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 4>was introduced in nineteen eighty, which reduced dramatically reduced birth rates.

477
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<v Speaker 4>By the late nineteen eighties, the average number of child

478
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<v Speaker 4>children per woman dropped to about two.

479
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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, I said it was in the nineties. It

480
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<v Speaker 3>was in eighty Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I was.

482
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<v Speaker 4>I just was curious as to see what the China's

483
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 4>fertility rate and stuff is, because yeah, they let's see

484
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:42.759
<v Speaker 4>it says that.

485
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<v Speaker 5>Their fertility rate is still decreasing.

486
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<v Speaker 4>The decline in twenty twenty to twenty twenty one was

487
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<v Speaker 4>damn ads is seven point four percent. Then it went

488
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:59.559
<v Speaker 4>from twenty three to twenty two three point three percent decline.

489
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Then it went it actually increased in twenty twenty four.

490
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 3>They finally removed the one child policy and they're trying to.

491
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.960
<v Speaker 5>Promote eight point eight percent increase.

492
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 4>But now it's steady at only increased to eighteen percent

493
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 4>over the last since twenty twenty five to twenty twenty four,

494
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:24.319
<v Speaker 4>so they're still averaging a number of two children as

495
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<v Speaker 4>of right now. So it's gone down even actually quent

496
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:31.119
<v Speaker 4>down significantly. So it looks like the highest peak was

497
00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 4>in nineteen sixty four was the average of six oh sorry,

498
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.039
<v Speaker 4>seven point five to one kids, and then it just

499
00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 4>went all the way down and then it decreased to

500
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:49.680
<v Speaker 4>having one kid per household till just last twenty twenty four,

501
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 4>they now have one point seventy one kids. And I

502
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 4>understand how you have one point seventy one, you just

503
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<v Speaker 4>have like.

504
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<v Speaker 3>It's an average.

505
00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, no, so it looks like overall they have

506
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 4>it has increased seventy one percent, but they have not

507
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 4>hardly any numbers since because I can see the actual

508
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 4>it went.

509
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>From one point one percent to one point seven percent.

510
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 2>Therefore it's a seventy percent increase. They're not even at

511
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the rate of replacement right now.

512
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it went yeah, one percent, So in in

513
00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 4>COVID time it was one point twenty four. Then after

514
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.880
<v Speaker 4>that it dropped to one point flat, and then it

515
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 4>went up to one point seventy one percent. Before that,

516
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 4>the average was one roughly around one point five to

517
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.160
<v Speaker 4>one point eight percent, and that's been like that since

518
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:43.720
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety one.

519
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 3>And that's what's been point at. That's not even.

520
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 4>Replacement where that Before that it was like, really it

521
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.519
<v Speaker 4>was pretty peak high. So in the fifties it was

522
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.640
<v Speaker 4>about six six point four to nine. Then it dropped

523
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>really really far down to three and sixty one.

524
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 5>They had a spikes, and then it went.

525
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 4>All the way down, really declined in nineteen seventy six,

526
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 4>and that's where it just dipped all the way down.

527
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 3>So here's the kitcher. We're all, here's the catcher on

528
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>this one. Though.

529
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<v Speaker 2>So there are people that were in China in the

530
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties and sixties that are now living in America

531
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and they are very very open about the fact that

532
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 2>no one was having six kids. That's a that's a

533
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>completely made up number. And I understand this is what

534
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>the statistics say because we have to go off for

535
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>the best research we can find, and the data we're

536
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>getting is from the CCP.

537
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 4>So this you're talking, you're talking ten twenty years twenty

538
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 4>you're talking roughly maybe twenty two years of not even that, yeah,

539
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 4>like ten twenty years, twenty years exactly of potentially having

540
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 4>anywhere between five to maybe seven kids at the most.

541
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Maybe though, and they're saying that those numbers.

542
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Are completely yes too, so and let's even say that

543
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 2>that is accurate. Right, let's say that the people that

544
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about are completely full of shit.

545
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Right.

546
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe in their small neighborhood it wasn't like that, but

547
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>mainland China whatever else. Fine, they're still decreasing, and they

548
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>have increased in all these things. So they're saying that

549
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 2>right now China's population at best is five hundred million.

550
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well, how they treat.

551
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Their citizens and then the whole the giant towers where

552
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 4>they lock them in where they like, in those little

553
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:35.160
<v Speaker 4>prison cell blocks and stuff. I actually follow a couple

554
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Chinese creators that sleep in their car. Yeah, and honestly,

555
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.079
<v Speaker 4>their car setups are fucking pimp.

556
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to give them.

557
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 4>That they're super creative for how small of living they

558
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 4>have and everything else, they are the most creative people ever,

559
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 4>and I actually do enjoy watching them. But they don't

560
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of places to go and sleep and

561
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 4>do all of these things. And so I for years

562
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 4>have been on the decline. Even if they did raise

563
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.160
<v Speaker 4>seventy percent, you're talking they went from maybe one child

564
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 4>to potentially two.

565
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe seventy percent sounds like a lot, but when

566
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 2>you realize that's a one percent to a one point

567
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 2>seven percent.

568
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 3>That kind of that. You see what I'm saying, They

569
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 3>skew the numbers.

570
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 5>It's just one year, though, it's really just one year.

571
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:24.079
<v Speaker 4>It's so I mean, I can see how they wouldn't

572
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 4>have a bunch plus what they did during COVID. I mean,

573
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 4>there was a lot of information saying that they killed

574
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of their citizens.

575
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that they did all this stuff.

576
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Now I've actually not seen anything that was ever produced

577
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 4>from that. I saw the initial videos and the initial

578
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 4>things saying that, like, you know, they trapped all those

579
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 4>citizens in that one building and then you know, accidentally, oops,

580
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 4>the building collapsed, and like these people were in there.

581
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.119
<v Speaker 3>That was nationwide. There are situations like that.

582
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 4>I saw a lot of different things like that, but

583
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 4>I've never actually seen the confirm like this is what happened.

584
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.799
<v Speaker 4>I didn't see since posting it afterwards and saying no,

585
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 4>this really did happen, like they really did kill us.

586
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 5>So it's one of those.

587
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 4>Speculative things that like, I don't know if it's true.

588
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's actually what happened to them.

589
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>No, but there's all kinds of situations. Hell we I

590
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>just talked about this on the Caves the Night a

591
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago. There was this massive bridge and

592
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.559
<v Speaker 2>a massive dam that just collapsed in China. But it's

593
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>only been operable for about ten years. Wow, did this happen?

594
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Was it a natural disaster?

595
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 3>No?

596
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 2>No, What it is that China has been basically throwing

597
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>construction projects up to make it look like they're just

598
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>doing some big innovation. The quality in the work that

599
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 2>is being done is so ass that it's not gonna

600
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>last whatsoever. Cut too, you got people living in their cars.

601
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 2>They have so much building development all over the Great China,

602
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>So why are these people living in the cars? Because

603
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>they're building empty shells of buildings. They are building these

604
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 2>massive skyrise apartments situations that have no rooms or floors

605
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:01.920
<v Speaker 2>for that matter. It's a it's a giant building that

606
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>it's a movie set. That's all it is. What that's

607
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 2>all it is. It's a giant building that.

608
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 3>Has anything like that.

609
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>That's that's happening all over China, and it has been

610
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>for years, and it's not even like there's apartments for

611
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 2>people to rent, but they just can't afford it. No,

612
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the places that could be rented are being rented, and

613
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 2>it's always these little shoe box apartments like you're talking about.

614
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>These people are left with no other option but to

615
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>go live in their cars.

616
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 5>I have never seen that. Honestly, it's mind blowing. I've seen.

617
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 4>I've seen the whole videos and all the behind the

618
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 4>behind the scenes I guess, or the you know, inside

619
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 4>the buildings where they all rent those little literally like

620
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 4>they're in prison cells just big enough for them to

621
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 4>sleep in. I've I've watched into that, like you know,

622
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 4>excuse me watching into that. I've looked into that a

623
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 4>good bit. But no, I've never seen anything about shell buildings.

624
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 4>But you know, at this point, the entire world is stage.

625
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

626
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me.

627
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean maybe.

628
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.880
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, cut to the whole situation with the TikTok.

629
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 4>So how did we end up with China's selling TikTok?

630
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 4>Because I don't understand why they would.

631
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:17.079
<v Speaker 5>Give this up.

632
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that it was because they have very little

633
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 2>options left. The curtain is finally getting pulled back, and

634
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.359
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do whatever they can to keep up

635
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 2>a certain face to make it look like they ended

636
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 2>up on the positive side of this.

637
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 3>TikTok was so over fourteen billion dollars.

638
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 4>I think they're using that for their version of Genesis

639
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 4>and the Moon situation that they're tied in with Russia.

640
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<v Speaker 5>I think I was going to if I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was going to say, I think TikTok is their least

642
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<v Speaker 4>of their concerns right now. Right now, the race is

643
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<v Speaker 4>for AI control and for whoever gets on the moon first,

644
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 4>quote unquote, like whoever sets up the lunar base.

645
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<v Speaker 5>This is one of those things that they can.

646
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.160
<v Speaker 4>Make huge profit off of and take that money and

647
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 4>shove it into those programs. Because Genesis is our version,

648
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 4>and it's out there trying to hopefully we win this

649
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 4>whole race. And so it's Russia and them versus US,

650
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 4>and when it comes to both of these things.

651
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 3>And Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>And Iran and because for some reason, yeah, they they

653
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<v Speaker 2>these three are connected.

654
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 3>They are connected deep. And so the.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole situation when Maduro actually ties into this one, the

656
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Chinese have seen that their connection to Russia has been

657
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<v Speaker 2>eternal and all these things, Yet they weren't in the

658
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 2>loop when Maduro got snatched. They even had Chinese I

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00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>don't want to use the term uh, I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>could say delegates. They had Chinese big wigs that were

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<v Speaker 2>in Caracas the night that Maduro was taken. They had

662
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 2>just had dinner with them. They had literally just had dinner.

663
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<v Speaker 2>Putin knew what was about to go down, but she

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<v Speaker 2>did not. That's a problem. Right There's some real rifts

665
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 2>going on between China and Russia right now, and I

666
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>think China's trying to do what it can to say face.

667
00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think that them selling TikTok it wasn't uh.

668
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a strategic move. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>think that they got strategic to I got. I think

670
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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not just saying Trump, I'm saying that the

671
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<v Speaker 2>United States government strong arm China into doing this. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a big push right now when you look at Iran,

673
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>there's a big push with the Russia Ukraine situation, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's some people that are saying that China might try

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<v Speaker 2>to make a push into Russia in a military way.

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00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Now. I don't believe that that's gonna happen. I absolutely

677
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<v Speaker 3>do not believe it's gonna happen.

678
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<v Speaker 2>But when you look at the writing on the court,

679
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<v Speaker 2>on the board, so to speak, a lot of things

680
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>are lining up that shouldn't line up, and China's about

681
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>to get screwed. The problem with that is what happens

682
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>when you corner a pit bull, even if it's a

683
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Because China's a paid tiger, I'm not. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>anybody with a brainstems actually worried about the Chinese military

685
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 2>because why would you be right?

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00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 3>But that being said, they are a nuclear power and.

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<v Speaker 5>They he says like, I don't know why you're writing

688
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<v Speaker 5>off their.

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<v Speaker 2>Nukes because if they were to launch nukes, even Russia

690
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 2>has to nuke them' that's the way this goes. The

691
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>first country to drop them gets dropped on by everybody else.

692
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<v Speaker 2>So I don't believe that nukes are ever actually going

693
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<v Speaker 2>to be used again. I think it's the ultimate saber

694
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<v Speaker 2>rattle because if they get nuked, if any country launches

695
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 2>nukes again, it's all over, the world's over. Everybody's gonna

696
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>bomb each other and it's all fucked anyway. So and

697
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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows that, which is why it's the whole mutually

698
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 2>assured destruction situation, so they could rattle that saber all

699
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<v Speaker 2>they want it. I don't think that's actually gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So as they're talking about a actual kinetic war with China,

701
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 2>any country versus China, I feel like they'll find out very,

702
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>very very quickly that China is just like Russia. Everybody

703
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>swore that Russia was the number two biggest military on earth.

704
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:00.559
<v Speaker 3>They're so scary, they're so strong.

705
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 2>For years I was telling people that like nobody in

706
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the Russian military, from the top general to the lowest private,

707
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.519
<v Speaker 2>has been shot at. They're not a military that would

708
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<v Speaker 2>be considered formidable by any metric. It's just because they're

709
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the big bad Russia. They go to war with Ukraine

710
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and they had farmers taking tanks and John Deere tractors.

711
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>That was that was a big thing. So Russia got.

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00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>The whole world now knows that Russia is completely full

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<v Speaker 2>of shit. If anybody actually went to war with China,

714
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the world would find out that China is in the

715
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<v Speaker 2>exact same boat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not even, and now we know that it's

717
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 3>not even. Their numbers.

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00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Their biggest asset has always been their numbers. They don't

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00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>even have that to be a scary force anymore. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, what you looking at?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I'm I find it really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Al Jazeer keeps every time I go to this one

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<v Speaker 4>specific article that.

724
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 5>Lays out China's.

725
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 4>How this is actually to help them out becoming a

726
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.800
<v Speaker 4>partying chip with the tensions with the US, every time

727
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 4>I click on that article, it disappears like it's not

728
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<v Speaker 4>allowing me to access it. And so I'm trying in

729
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 4>different approaches to read this one specific article and it's

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<v Speaker 4>just try to read a different one too. From the

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00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:16.440
<v Speaker 4>New York Times. It won't let me read it. I

732
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 4>try to read from BBC, it wouldn't let me read it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, apparently we're not allowed to read this article,

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<v Speaker 4>which longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Tying that in Al Jazeera is a Katari publication. Qatar

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<v Speaker 2>and the UAE are homies, and the UAE just bought

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<v Speaker 2>a portion of TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm just throwing it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all weird how it connects. I know that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't like politics. I know the geopolitics

741
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>is very boring to a lot of people.

742
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<v Speaker 5>But this is really boring to be honest with you, I.

743
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Get it, I get it, but this is this is

744
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 2>one of those situations where the geopolitics bleeds into everyone's

745
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 2>everyday life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, it's It's one of those topics that, like

747
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 4>is I never really been a huge fan, but considering

748
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 4>every single thing impacts us, even when it's overseas, it's

749
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.599
<v Speaker 4>going to impact us somehow. So it's like you just

750
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 4>have to learn about it, just you know, at least

751
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.480
<v Speaker 4>to keep up with kind of what's happening, because you

752
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be taken off guard when you know,

753
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 4>potentially some real shit hits the fan. But I understand

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00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 4>why people get really bored listening to it and not

755
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 4>like it's their jam, because it's been never really been

756
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:21.159
<v Speaker 4>in my jam either.

757
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 5>But you know now now I listened to it.

758
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 4>And learn about it a lot more in the last

759
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 4>few years, because yeah, shit happens, and a lot of

760
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 4>it all ties together, and that's where all the money

761
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 4>is and it's a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So and when things are political, they are inherently conspiratorial,

763
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.639
<v Speaker 2>right because you literally cannot separate the two. So I

764
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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's worth it for us to have this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>This evening.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen once again

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody who would like to see it. Come check

768
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 2>us out at patreon dot com slash culta conspiracy podcast,

769
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and you will be able to see all of the articles,

770
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 2>all the things, all the stuff that we were going

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<v Speaker 2>to be talking about moving into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. This is from Politico.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I understand some people have issue with Politico as

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<v Speaker 2>a publication. I hear that, but for this article, in particular,

775
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<v Speaker 2>the take away the political bias. For two seconds, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just read the facts, okay. TikTok lands a fourteen billion

777
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<v Speaker 2>dollar deal to avoid US ban. Yes, the TikTok ban

778
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>is what this all comes back to. So China knew

779
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 2>that they were about to lose their information loop regardless,

780
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<v Speaker 2>so they decided to make a little money on the

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<v Speaker 2>way out the door. The new owners will include Oracle,

782
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<v Speaker 2>a tech giant co founded by Trump ally Larry Ellison.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it here. So TikTok has closed this

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen billion dollar deal establishing a US subsidiary subsidiary of

785
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<v Speaker 2>the platform to avoid a ban, the company said on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>The new owners will include the US private equity firm

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<v Speaker 2>silver Lake Abu Dhabi faced artificial intelligence company MGX and Oracle,

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<v Speaker 2>a tech giant co founded by Larry Ellison, an ally

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<v Speaker 2>of President Trump. So we have a US private equity

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<v Speaker 2>firm which has got its own, its own thing. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get to them in particular here in a bit

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<v Speaker 2>Abu Dhabi based AI company and Oracle, which is literally

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<v Speaker 2>big brother, very much Orwellian big brother great. They will

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<v Speaker 2>each hold a fifteen percent steak in the US joint venture.

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<v Speaker 2>The deal allows TikTok's Beijing based parent company byte Edance

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<v Speaker 2>to maintain a nearly twenty percent steak. The Dell Family

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<v Speaker 2>office investment firm chair and CEO Dell Technologies Michael Dell,

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<v Speaker 2>is also an investor. Yeah, Dell has their their hand

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<v Speaker 2>in this one, weirdly.

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<v Speaker 4>Enough, and it's so weird to me Dell, of all people,

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<v Speaker 4>of all of them still, Yeah, you would think that

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<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't be still around, but they are.

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<v Speaker 2>You would think Elon, I thought Elon well before Dell.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Bill Gates. I thought Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have bought in on some of this before Dell.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually really surprised that Gates Gates has been unusually quiet,

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<v Speaker 4>which is really unnerving to me. Yeah, he's been really quietly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a good time.

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<v Speaker 4>No, not at all. I think that they're working towards

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<v Speaker 4>the disease X. It's interesting. Have you gone to Dell's

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<v Speaker 4>Technology Technologies by the way, website, that's what it's called.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I have something pulled up on them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if it is the particular one, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want, I could give you the ability.

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<v Speaker 3>To share screen.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I just happened to go and look at it because

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<v Speaker 4>I was I haven't looked at a Dell computer in

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<v Speaker 4>a long time. But the artificial intelligence is the first thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And they have entire infrastructure and they have all sorts

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff that they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, it's not just one thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Dell's Solutions is what it is talking about, and it

825
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<v Speaker 4>has like trains attached to it. It's yeah, they have

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<v Speaker 4>their hands and all sorts of stuff. It's not just

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<v Speaker 4>one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk more into this one here. So Congress

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<v Speaker 2>passed the law on April twenty twenty four requiring the

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<v Speaker 2>sale of TikTok to a US buyer before January nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, or banning it, citing national security concerns

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<v Speaker 2>about the APPS ties to China, obviously, but Trump delayed

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<v Speaker 2>the ban from taking effect five to times last year

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<v Speaker 2>while a deal was negotiated to divest the.

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<v Speaker 3>APP to American owners.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump signed an executive order in September approving the deal

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<v Speaker 2>and giving the parties until Friday to formalize the terms.

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<v Speaker 2>The deal matches an internal memo distributed by TikTok CEO

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<v Speaker 2>Showzi Chew last month, who said the agreement would be

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<v Speaker 2>finalized by Thursday. The US version will operate as an

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<v Speaker 2>independent entity, governed by a seven member board, including TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>CEO Oracle which I just said, shouz z Shu, Oracle

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<v Speaker 2>Executive vice president, Kenneth Gluick, Timothy Daddles, senior advisor to

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<v Speaker 2>TPG Global, Mark Dooley, Managing director at Susquehanna International Group,

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<v Speaker 2>Silverlay Co CEO, Egon Durbin, DXC Technology CEO Raoul Fernandez,

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<v Speaker 2>and David Scott, Chief Strategy and Safety Officer at mg X,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the Abu Dhabi based AI company. Adam Presser,

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<v Speaker 2>head of the operations and trust and safety at TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>will now serve as CEO of the joint venture. Trump

850
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<v Speaker 2>praised this deal on truth Social Of course he did.

851
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Trump said that in September that Chinese President Jijiping had

852
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 2>agreed to the deal, but Chinese officials provided an ambiguous

853
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:18.039
<v Speaker 2>narrative signaling that the deal would be a drawn out process.

854
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:21.199
<v Speaker 2>China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that the country quote

855
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 2>respects the wishes of enterprises and welcomes them to reach

856
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>solutions that comply with Chinese law and regulations and balance interests. Well,

857
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of the whole point. This is no longer

858
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 2>about Chinese interests in Chinese law, just throwing it out.

859
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>The President thanked g on his truth Social post for

860
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 2>working with us and ultimately approving the deal. So he

861
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump said he could have gone the other way, but didn't.

862
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 2>It's appreciated.

863
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 3>Blah bah bab.

864
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 4>So.

865
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Trump previously described this deal as a qualified divestiture, meaning

866
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 2>the sale would fully serve bite Dances control or I'm sorry,

867
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 2>the sale would fully severe or sever bite Dances control

868
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 2>over the platform and therefore make tik talk legal under

869
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 2>US law. So now ByteDance does not have controlling interest

870
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.199
<v Speaker 2>over it. It has a twenty percent, but it does

871
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>not have the majority of the control over what goes

872
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>on there. China hawks on Capitol Hill have champion this

873
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:17.920
<v Speaker 2>issue over national security concerns and fears that Chinese controlled

874
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>app subjects users to government surveillance and content manipulation. Because

875
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>it does. It's not a hypothetical, it's not a conspiracy.

876
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>That's a guarantee. While they vowed to scrutinize the potential

877
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.960
<v Speaker 2>deal to ensure it adheres to the law they seem

878
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to be, they seemed prepared to accept Trump's claim that

879
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the deal would resolve concerns over.

880
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:36.519
<v Speaker 3>National security and control.

881
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Jd Vance confirmed that the US owners would have control

882
00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>over the app's algorithm, which is at the heart of

883
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 2>the platform success.

884
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:45.880
<v Speaker 3>So he went on.

885
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>He said the US company will have control over how

886
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the algorithm pushes content to users, and that it was

887
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 2>a very important part of it. He said in September

888
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.760
<v Speaker 2>executive order signing in the Oval Office. We thought it

889
00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>was necessary for the national security level element of the law.

890
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 2>According to the company's release, the US version will we're

891
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>quad ll retrain and update the platform's algorithm based on

892
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 2>US user data oracle.

893
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 3>We'll control the algorithm within its US cloud.

894
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Environment, which again I'm not super stoked about I would

895
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:17.599
<v Speaker 2>rather Oracle over the CCP.

896
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 3>But it's it's not it's not really much.

897
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Of a of an upgrade, honestly, it's it's one slaver

898
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 2>to another.

899
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think that Dell actually is the one that

900
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 4>we should worry about more over than Oracle.

901
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Why do you say this, Raven?

902
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.840
<v Speaker 4>So while I'm while you're reading, I'm listening to you,

903
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at Dell's Dell's website and I actually went

904
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 4>and found their Dell AI Factory, and they have an

905
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:50.719
<v Speaker 4>entire website that's dedicated to the acceleration of AI innovention,

906
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:57.079
<v Speaker 4>innovation with the Dell AI Factory, and it's embracing implementing

907
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.519
<v Speaker 4>AI pretty much globally, is what it's talking about. It

908
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 4>wants to put it everywhere, and it's talking about services, ecosystem,

909
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.679
<v Speaker 4>and infrastructure. And so when I'm reading into it, like

910
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm not even digging that deep into it, I.

911
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.159
<v Speaker 5>Was like, you know, let's see what it says.

912
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:19.519
<v Speaker 4>So the ecosystem is creating an ecosystem across AI workflows,

913
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 4>and so what that means is they're creating a path

914
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.280
<v Speaker 4>for AI to pretty much overtake every kind of everything.

915
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 4>It collects all your data, it does all of these

916
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 4>things with it, but it's working with everybody. So you know,

917
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 4>we're talking about, well where is Bill Gates? Well, Google

918
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 4>Cloud is here, don't worry. Meta is here, Microsoft is here,

919
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:46.159
<v Speaker 4>Teara Data is here, Starburst is there. They have a

920
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 4>list of about twenty five people that they're working with

921
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 4>and if you actually click on all of these people,

922
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 4>they are all AI entity groups that are trying to

923
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 4>push forward the next step into AI and quantum and

924
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 4>doing all this stuff. And I haven't even really dug

925
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 4>super into this, but it's really talking about like the

926
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.840
<v Speaker 4>resilience and application.

927
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 5>To being able to.

928
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Store all your data, avoid corruption, detect cyber threats. It's

929
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 4>talking about being able to network across all platforms globally

930
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:19.519
<v Speaker 4>with the Ethernet fiber.

931
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 5>What does it say the Ethernet.

932
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Fibers and the performance needs of Genai workloads and so

933
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.760
<v Speaker 4>gen Ai is the big computer, so pretty much this

934
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 4>is this is probably who they're using for Genesis, if

935
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:39.719
<v Speaker 4>I was to guess, it's probably who they're like, they're

936
00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 4>all combined together. Oracle is like the storefront, right, and

937
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 4>then Dell, I think, is the back half and actually

938
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 4>running this whole thing, because once they get hold of everything,

939
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 4>their whole thing is they have a factory that they're

940
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:59.159
<v Speaker 4>trying to implement the ecosystem across the globe, and they're

941
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.679
<v Speaker 4>working with all of them. They're all together on it.

942
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:03.559
<v Speaker 4>You can see it on their website and you can

943
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 4>go in and read about it. So I think that's

944
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 4>who we should be more concerned about than the Oracle.

945
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he might be onto something, honestly, and

946
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Dell and Oracle are now big wigs

947
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.079
<v Speaker 2>with TikTok, I feel like we can't understate the importance

948
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>of this.

949
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 3>But not everybody is super jazzed about this.

950
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is actually from Michael Sobolik, a senior fellow

951
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 2>at the right leaning Hudson Institute and an expert on

952
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:33.360
<v Speaker 2>the US China policy. He told Politico that President Trump

953
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 2>got played by Jijaping. He got terrible advice from his

954
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.440
<v Speaker 2>staff on these negotiations. This isn't the art of the deal,

955
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:42.880
<v Speaker 2>it's the art of the steal. Jijaping can't believe his luck.

956
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That's that is a take. That is a take by

957
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>this so and again, it's not like the CCP has

958
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.639
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with it anymore. They still hold a

959
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty percent. But okay, so this is moving on. Now

960
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>we're going to.

961
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 5>Getting their cut into the AI race.

962
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I think they're still now it may not be a

963
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Chinese owned app anymore, but they're still going to have

964
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 2>some sort of a backdoor deal on this. They're still

965
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 2>going to have some sort of a spyware that's just

966
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.599
<v Speaker 2>inherent to the app. So I don't see this going

967
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 2>very positively for anybody, to be honest with you. So

968
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 2>now we're going to tech Crunch. Here's what you should

969
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>know about the US TikTok deal. All right, let's get

970
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 2>into it here. TikTok, owned by a Chinese company byte Dance,

971
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.079
<v Speaker 2>has been at the center of controversy in the US

972
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 2>four years now due to concerns about the user data

973
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>potentially being accessed by the Chinese government. Thursday January twenty second,

974
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, TikTok announced that the TikTok USDs Joint

975
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Venture LLC had officially been established to comply with President

976
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Trump's executive order that approved the sale of TikTok's US

977
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 2>operations to an American investor group, now Byteedance will own

978
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.199
<v Speaker 2>less than twenty percent of the new entity, with the

979
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>rest of it falling into non Chinese ownership. Over the years,

980
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 2>US users have often found themselves caught in the middle

981
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 2>of this tension, facing uncertainty about how their access to

982
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.719
<v Speaker 2>the app would change. For creators who used TikTok to

983
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 2>make a living, the stakes were even higher. Last year,

984
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 2>the app experienced a temporary augie in the US that

985
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 2>left millions of users in suspense before it was quickly restored. Yeah,

986
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that was that twenty four hour ban that was done right,

987
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 2>which I also think was a show of force. That

988
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 2>wasn't That was a.

989
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Flex Yeah, I don't think that was anything. I think

990
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 4>that was just like a see I told you I

991
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 4>could do it right.

992
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:27.920
<v Speaker 3>So a number of investors competed.

993
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 2>To purchase the app, and after President Trump extended the

994
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 2>U TikTok band deadline for the.

995
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 3>Fourth time, the battle finally ceased.

996
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 2>In December twenty twenty five, TikTok officially signed a deal

997
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>to divest a portion of its US entity to a

998
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 2>group of American investors. Early in twenty twenty five, President

999
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Trump had announced that Jijuping of China had given his

1000
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 2>approval of the TikTok deal, which would allow a consortium

1001
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:52.119
<v Speaker 2>of US investors to control the platform. Byte Dance stated

1002
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 2>publicly that it would ensure the platform remains available to

1003
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 2>US users. So who owns TikTok in the US? Byte

1004
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Dance will retain nearly eight twenty percent stake in the company,

1005
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 2>while non Chinese investors will hold the remaining eighty percent ownership.

1006
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:09.239
<v Speaker 2>The managing investor group consists of Oracle, private equity firm

1007
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.679
<v Speaker 2>silver Lake, and the investment firm MGX. These three investors

1008
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 2>will each hold fifteen percent of the US operations, or

1009
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 2>forty five percent collectively. So just going off of those two,

1010
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 2>let's just say let's round it up and say Byte

1011
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Dance owns twenty now they own sixty five or collectively

1012
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:31.840
<v Speaker 2>between China, silver Lake, MX or MGX and Oracle, these

1013
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 2>four groups own sixty five percent of TikTok.

1014
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 3>So who owns the other thirty five percent?

1015
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I wonder But old Dell boy, I'm wondering how much

1016
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.239
<v Speaker 2>he bought in on this other investments. Yeah, so other investors,

1017
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>which include the existing Byte Dance investors, make up another

1018
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 2>thirty five percent of the ventures ownership. This includes the

1019
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Dell Family office, Michael Dell's investment firm, Susquehanna affiliate, vastmir Okay,

1020
00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Alpha Wave Partners, and several more which are listed in

1021
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 2>TikTok's press release, which you know, we might open that

1022
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.960
<v Speaker 2>one next just to see how that goes. Reports estimate

1023
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 2>that the TikTok us is valued at approximately fourteen billion,

1024
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:14.039
<v Speaker 2>a figure also mentioned by JD Vance. Newly formed TikTok

1025
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 2>USDs Joint Venture LLC will oversee the apps operation, including

1026
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.320
<v Speaker 2>data protection, algorithm security, content moderation, and software assurance. Oracle

1027
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:26.199
<v Speaker 2>serve as the trusted security partner responsible for auditing and

1028
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 2>ensuring compliance with national security terms. According to a memo,

1029
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the company already provides cloud services for TikTok and manages

1030
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:36.199
<v Speaker 2>user data in the US. Notably, Oracle previously made a

1031
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.320
<v Speaker 2>bid for TikTok back in twenty twenty. A White House

1032
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>officially previously said Oracle would replicate and secure a new

1033
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 2>US version of the algorithm, and the US based TikTok

1034
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:49.639
<v Speaker 2>owners could lease the algorithm from ByteDance, which Oracle will

1035
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 2>then retrain. Byedance will not have access to information about

1036
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:59.039
<v Speaker 2>TikTok's US users or any influence over the US algorithm

1037
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 2>that makes me Lot's good, it makes me happy. So

1038
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.840
<v Speaker 2>how will TikTok change for US users? Since the deal

1039
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.360
<v Speaker 2>was only just finalized, as not exactly clear how the

1040
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 2>two hundred million American TikTok users will be impacted? Damn

1041
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.159
<v Speaker 2>near two thirds of all Americans are using this app.

1042
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

1043
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:18.880
<v Speaker 2>So while earlier reports suggests that US users might need

1044
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to transition to a new platform, more recent reports have

1045
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 2>denied this claim, assuring users that they will not need

1046
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.360
<v Speaker 2>to download a new app. It's unclear how users algorithmic

1047
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:29.159
<v Speaker 2>feeds will be impacted at this time.

1048
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 3>So how do we get here? To fully understand the

1049
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 3>high stakes drama?

1050
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Will first revisit a timeline of the TikTok tumultuous relationship

1051
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>with the US government, which resulted in various legal battles

1052
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and negotiations. The drama first began in August of twenty twenty,

1053
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 2>when Trump signed executive order to ban transactions with parent

1054
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:48.760
<v Speaker 2>company byt Dance. A month later, Trump administration sought to

1055
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.679
<v Speaker 2>force a sale of TikTok's US operations to a US

1056
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 2>based company. The leading contenders included Microsoft, Oracle, and Walmart

1057
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 2>believe it or not. However, a US judge temporarily blocked

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00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Trump's executive order, allowing TikTok to continue operating while the

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00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:07.440
<v Speaker 2>legal battle unfolded. Things began to progress even more following

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00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.559
<v Speaker 2>the transition to the Biden administration. After the Senate passed

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00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the bill against TikTok, President Biden signed it. Did he

1062
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:15.920
<v Speaker 2>actually or was it one of his aides?

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00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Who knows?

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00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 2>In response, TikTok sued the US government, challenging the constitutionality constitutionality,

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00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.719
<v Speaker 2>yeah of the bandon, arguing the app and its American

1066
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.000
<v Speaker 2>users were having their First Amendment rights violated. That is

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00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 2>fucking hilarious. That is absolutely that is rich that the CCP,

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00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:41.719
<v Speaker 2>who owns ByteDance, would sue the American government for infringing

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00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 2>upon the American people's right to freedom of speech.

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00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:46.800
<v Speaker 5>How dare you?

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00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 3>What? What are we even talking about here? But okay, now, I.

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00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.000
<v Speaker 5>Guess they were trying to stand up for the American people.

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00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:57.000
<v Speaker 2>The same country where if you call the president a panda,

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00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you get life in prison.

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00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:03.079
<v Speaker 4>But okay, hey, don't cast stones. Okay, they're trying to

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00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:04.280
<v Speaker 4>help American people.

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00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Whatever. Sure, because China really did careing about the American.

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00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 3>People, you know.

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00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:12.519
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it was all It was all a ploy though,

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00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.119
<v Speaker 4>because look at how many people use it. If they

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00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 4>didn't give a shit about or they didn't at least

1082
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 4>put a show on that they cared about the American people,

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00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.880
<v Speaker 4>then they would lose people to other platforms, and then

1084
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:27.039
<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't have enough, they wouldn't gain more momentum, and

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00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:29.360
<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't be able to brainwash more people.

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00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 2>So they had nothing to do with Americans free speech.

1087
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.159
<v Speaker 2>It had everything to do with the data. It had

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00:56:34.159 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 2>everything to do with ad revenue. It had everything to

1089
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 2>do Yeah, that's all it ever actually boils down to

1090
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 2>is money, right?

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00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:44.239
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, if anyone actually goes and checks

1092
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:47.599
<v Speaker 4>out dell Man, the rabbit holes that I have somehow

1093
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.199
<v Speaker 4>managed to find myself in in the last five minutes

1094
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 4>is crazy.

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00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 3>Is this going to be another episode? Raven?

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00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 9>There?

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00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 5>Quantum computing innovation is insane right now. And the data

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00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 5>they have like all sorts to research.

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00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.559
<v Speaker 4>I just started clicking on things and started reading where

1100
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 4>their money is going, where their flow. They have like

1101
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:11.280
<v Speaker 4>a whole billboard sign like pamphlet about how they're collecting

1102
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:14.440
<v Speaker 4>your data and how AI is like your best friend,

1103
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 4>and how they're doing this with all the other companies.

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00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 5>And then I clicked on.

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00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:19.760
<v Speaker 4>It was like it had like a little thing it

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00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 4>said here click here to read more research.

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00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:23.760
<v Speaker 5>So I clicked there, and then I clicked another thing.

1108
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 4>Then I've somehow found myself really deep into this massive

1109
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 4>website that they have. So it might turn into a

1110
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.079
<v Speaker 4>whole episode, because everybody knows. I do like to talk

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00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.960
<v Speaker 4>about AI because I feel like we are on the

1112
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 4>cusp of something very serious happening to us as humans.

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00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Easy, Hey, I can't be talking too harshly about the overlords.

1114
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Watch it now?

1115
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, Terminator's gonna come for me, dude.

1116
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:50.440
<v Speaker 3>It's so bad.

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00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you look at that, I think it was

1118
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Dell that actually developed the mini quantum computing chip.

1119
00:57:57.920 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Why isn't the majorum I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called Uh. They have all sorts of stuff. I

1121
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:07.400
<v Speaker 4>was looking at Harness. They have like a hybrid quantum

1122
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.719
<v Speaker 4>computing chip that they just made with Dell's power edge in.

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<v Speaker 5>N V I d I a q video qum.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's how you spell that. They have it all

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00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 4>spelled out like that qum quantum thing. They have a

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00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 4>discovery that they just powered up. They just did a

1127
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 4>whole hybrid classification of quantum computing.

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00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:33.719
<v Speaker 5>They have like new algorithms that they've made.

1129
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 4>That's not including their whole AI thing they have going

1130
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 4>on too.

1131
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.079
<v Speaker 5>Because they have they have.

1132
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Like building it, preparing it. You can take classes on

1133
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:45.320
<v Speaker 4>it yourself as a person to learn how the ecosystem

1134
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 4>works and the environment because they have it listed, like

1135
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 4>they have a picture where it's like listed and it

1136
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:54.719
<v Speaker 4>has like the ecosystem is the second tier, and then

1137
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:57.519
<v Speaker 4>the inpook and then applying it to everything is the

1138
00:58:57.559 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 4>third tier. And then it has like tiers that you

1139
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 4>can take your own classes if you want to on it,

1140
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.440
<v Speaker 4>which no joke, I'm probably going to honestly take because

1141
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 4>i want to see what.

1142
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.639
<v Speaker 5>The hell they're doing. Yeah, and I'm nosy.

1143
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 4>So it has like services, ecosystem and infrastructure is how

1144
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 4>they have it laid out. And yeah, you can click

1145
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 4>on everything and they have it all.

1146
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:17.840
<v Speaker 5>It's interesting.

1147
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 4>If you didn't know the names, you wouldn't understand which

1148
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 4>ones are quantum and which ones aren't.

1149
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 5>And they're all in they're all untwined.

1150
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.599
<v Speaker 4>And I think they're going to use the data from

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00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.039
<v Speaker 4>TikTok as the algorithm to be able to push it

1152
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:33.039
<v Speaker 4>more onto us and be able to make sure they

1153
00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:37.719
<v Speaker 4>make it more friendly, more palatable for everyone to you know, hey,

1154
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.079
<v Speaker 4>we love aire using.

1155
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:40.480
<v Speaker 5>It for everything?

1156
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Why not?

1157
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Clearly obviously it's for good, you know. So fast forward

1158
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 2>to twenty twenty four. Trump it changed the heart, had

1159
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a change of heart since his first term, and sought

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00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.599
<v Speaker 2>to achieve a fifty to fifty ownership arrangement between by

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00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Dance and a US company. There were several contenders, including

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00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:00.599
<v Speaker 2>the People's Bid for TikTok, a consortium organized by Project

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01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Liberty founder Frank McCourt. This group had the support of

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01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:09.480
<v Speaker 2>investment firm Guggenheim Securities and the law firm Kirkland and Ellis.

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01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Supporters included Reddit co founder Alexis o'hanian Ohanian I don't

1166
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 2>know TV personality and investor Kevin O'Leary. Oh Shark Tank

1167
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:22.719
<v Speaker 2>was interested in buying TikTok. That's not shocking. Inventor of

1168
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:26.199
<v Speaker 2>the World Wide Web, Tim Burns Lee or Berners Lee,

1169
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the inventor of the Internet, wanted to get in on

1170
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:36.760
<v Speaker 2>this TikTok purchase, and senior research scientist David Clark. Another

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01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.960
<v Speaker 2>group called the American Investor Consortium was led by Employer

1172
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.519
<v Speaker 2>dot Com founder Jesse Tinsley and included Roadblocks co founder

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01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:50.840
<v Speaker 2>David Bussiki, so Anchorage Digital co founder Nathan McCauley, and

1174
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 2>famous YouTuber mister Beast.

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01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Y'all, I wish I was joking.

1176
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I wish I was joking about this, but no, we

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01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:04.039
<v Speaker 2>got the hodgepodge of shitheads that are wanting to all

1178
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 2>buy in on TikTok when it was possibly a fifty

1179
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:07.599
<v Speaker 2>to fifty ownership situation.

1180
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.519
<v Speaker 3>Mister Beast was trying to get in on this shit.

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01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Roadblocks, Roadblocks co founder, the dude who is protecting predators

1182
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.239
<v Speaker 2>to this day, parents and literal children play that shit.

1183
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 3>He wanted to buy TikTok.

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01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:25.360
<v Speaker 4>That's a really he Roadblocks, by the way, they just are.

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01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 4>They had some weird ads pop up in the last

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01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:29.639
<v Speaker 4>like twenty four hours.

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01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 5>On some of the games.

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01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one of them was, uh.

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01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:35.079
<v Speaker 5>It was very weird.

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01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:38.119
<v Speaker 4>It was talking about like making out and girls and

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01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.039
<v Speaker 4>like all this stuff. I've never seen a single ad

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01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:45.159
<v Speaker 4>on TikTok, but else TikTok, excuse me, Roadblocks, but apparently

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01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.119
<v Speaker 4>that's a thing. That's been popping up in the last

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01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:49.119
<v Speaker 4>few hours or last few days.

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01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I I've been saying it for a while,

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01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:55.280
<v Speaker 2>and honestly, it's not just because it's a.

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01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Game where a bunch of kids play. I got no

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01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:57.679
<v Speaker 3>issue with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there are predators on there that are

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01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:05.639
<v Speaker 2>trying to attract kids into private servers, and like, okay.

1201
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:06.400
<v Speaker 3>This is the thing that's happening.

1202
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:08.960
<v Speaker 2>As soon as they get caught, and as soon as

1203
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:13.480
<v Speaker 2>this gets put forward to the leaders of roadblocks, they

1204
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:17.599
<v Speaker 2>should if they gave a fuck about children, they should

1205
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 2>kick those users, kick their entire ip, get them out

1206
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 2>of here, because we want our app to be safe.

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01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:25.320
<v Speaker 2>We want these games to be safe for kids, because

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01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.639
<v Speaker 2>that's how we make our money. They have gone out

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01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:31.760
<v Speaker 2>of their way to protect hundreds, if not thousands, of

1210
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:34.760
<v Speaker 2>these predators. It's not even like they're playing the role

1211
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:36.920
<v Speaker 2>of ignorance and they're just kind of taking a step

1212
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 2>back and saying, oh, well, I mean, we can't really

1213
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.920
<v Speaker 2>do much, but but no, they're actually spending money to

1214
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 2>protect them.

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01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yo. There's a disgusting world we live in.

1216
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.719
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, that fucker was trying to get in on

1217
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 2>some TikTok purchasing back in this year.

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01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 5>Others because Amazon doesn't have it well.

1219
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Others in the running included Amazon app Love and Microsoft Perplexity,

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01:02:57.360 --> 01:03:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Ai Rumble, Walmart, Zoup, former Activision CEO Bobby Kotik, and

1221
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:06.719
<v Speaker 2>former US Treasury Secretary Stephen mcnuchin Manuchin.

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01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 5>That's a weird one.

1223
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:09.079
<v Speaker 3>That's a very weird one.

1224
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:12.800
<v Speaker 2>The former Secretary of the Treasury wanted to buy half

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01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 2>of TikTok at one point in.

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01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:16.039
<v Speaker 5>Time, which I think is interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very very interesting, isn't it. You know what I

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01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 3>do want.

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<v Speaker 2>To see about this whole TikTok press release, to see

1230
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:25.559
<v Speaker 2>about the list of who actually owns it.

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01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Let's see but ba ba uh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So, the joint venture a security organization, will operate as

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<v Speaker 2>an independent entity governed by the following seven member majority

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01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.760
<v Speaker 2>American Board of Directors. So Chew is the director, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one that was already a part of TikTok

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01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:45.320
<v Speaker 2>from the beginning. Timothy Daddles Director Daddles is a senior

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01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:48.960
<v Speaker 2>advisor to TPG Global, where he previously served as a

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01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:52.360
<v Speaker 2>partner chairman of TPG Asia and a member of the

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01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:53.760
<v Speaker 2>firm's Executive Committee.

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01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:58.679
<v Speaker 3>Mark Dooley. He's a managing director at Susquehanna International Group,

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01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:00.960
<v Speaker 3>which he joined in nine teen eighty seven. Is one

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01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:04.079
<v Speaker 3>of the firm's original employees. He serves on the.

1243
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Firm's management Committee, overseeing its global trading operations.

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01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.679
<v Speaker 3>Egon Durbin, I'm pretty sure I'm mispronouncing it. Don't care.

1245
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:14.599
<v Speaker 2>He is the co CEO of Silver Lake, which he

1246
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:17.280
<v Speaker 2>joined in ninety nine as a founding principal. He serves

1247
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:21.039
<v Speaker 2>on multiple boards across Silver Lakes portfolio, including Dell Technologies,

1248
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:24.800
<v Speaker 2>or Qual Tricks, TKO Group, Unity.

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01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 3>And way Mo Yeah all right.

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01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Raoul Fernandez Independent Director and Chair of the Security Committee.

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01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Fernandez is a president and Chief executive Officer of DXC

1252
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Technologies and a member of its Board of Directors. He

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01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 2>brings more than three decades of experience to the intersection

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01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 2>of technology, risk and national security. Kenneth Gluick Director. He

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01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:49.840
<v Speaker 2>is executive Vice president of in the Office of the

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01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Chief Executive Officer at Oracle, where he advises the CEO

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01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:59.159
<v Speaker 2>on global Strategy, business MMA M and A rather technology

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01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:04.039
<v Speaker 2>policy and record sulatory matters, and leads global corporate affairs

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01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:07.840
<v Speaker 2>and global corporate communications David Scott direct.

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01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:08.880
<v Speaker 3>We already talked about these.

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01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 2>He is a Chief Strategy and Safety Officer at MGX,

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01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 2>that's the Abu Dhabi based AI company, where he works

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01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:21.880
<v Speaker 2>closely with the funds leadership to set mgx's strategic direction,

1264
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:26.119
<v Speaker 2>including overseeing the governance of security and safety risks associated

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01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:27.840
<v Speaker 2>with emerging AI technologies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm very sure, Adam Presser, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be led by Adam Presser, who was appointed

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<v Speaker 2>today as CEO by the board as one of its

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<v Speaker 2>first actions. So Adam Presser serves as CEO of TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>USDs joint venture.

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<v Speaker 3>Under his leadership, the joint venture will secure US user.

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<v Speaker 2>Data, apps and the algorithm while driving business growth for TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>cap Cut and additional apps and websites in the US. Previously,

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<v Speaker 2>Adam hild roles at TikTok USDs, TikTok and Warner Media. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind a big one. It's kind of a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Ferrell. No, I don't believe it's the.

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<v Speaker 5>Actor, but I saw that name and I was like, hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>He serves as Chief Security Officer of TikTok's joint venture,

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01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:17.119
<v Speaker 2>where he oversees the joint venture's comprehensive data privacy and

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<v Speaker 2>cybersecurity program. Previously, Will held roles at TikTok's USDs TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>and booz Allen Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 3>It's another big player here. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>So we talked about the Silver Lake Oracle and MGX

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent of the companies. The rest of them is

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<v Speaker 2>the Dell Family Office, Vastmere Strategic Investments, an affiliate of

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<v Speaker 2>Susquehanna Air National Group, Alpha Wave Partners, Revolution merit Way LLC,

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<v Speaker 2>controlled and managed by Partners of Dragoneer. Via Nova, an

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<v Speaker 2>affiliate of General Atlantic. Virgo ll Inc. Or Virgo Lee Inc.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather an investment arm of a foundation established by Yuri

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<v Speaker 2>and Julia Milliner in support of science in JJ Capitol,

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<v Speaker 2>The family office of Javier Neil, a French entrepreneur and

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<v Speaker 2>pioneer in telecommunications ByteDance, retains nineteen point nine percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the joint venture.

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<v Speaker 3>So there we have.

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<v Speaker 5>We knew that name. Sorry, I'm thinking about that which one?

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<v Speaker 5>Virgo Lee one. I don't know why I know that name.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's let's see, established by Yuri and Julia Milner,

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<v Speaker 2>so that might know.

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<v Speaker 5>I know that name for some reason, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know why.

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<v Speaker 2>So so anyway, that is the entire list released by

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok of who owns the company or the US affiliate,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say as of.

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<v Speaker 3>Time of recording.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I think this all ties into what is

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<v Speaker 2>going on geopolitically around the world. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>this was something that was, you know, eight months in

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<v Speaker 2>the making and the planning and all this. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>for it to go down as fast as it did

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that it did.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Was way more strategic. Gonna be honest with you. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you find anything on those two Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So so it's an AI analytic platform designed to design

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<v Speaker 4>for advance. Uh, it's it's pretty much GI care through

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<v Speaker 4>endoscopic imagery and also like a whole bunch of different

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<v Speaker 4>like colonoscopies, research and all of that.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's all about that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, oh, well that makes that makes

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<v Speaker 4>a lot more sense because I have a child that

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<v Speaker 4>has GI issues.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen the name though, like over and over again,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sitting here like I know this name, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why I know the name yet now

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<v Speaker 4>I get it why I know the name.

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<v Speaker 3>So here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>So that a GI group would be involved in that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you say that there AI as far as

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<v Speaker 2>the GI tracking and the medical industry is concerned, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're using AI in the medical field.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, Yeah, that would be the connection. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>just so real quick. We're gonna watch this video. It's

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<v Speaker 3>from Ryan macbeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people that love everything he says. I know

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<v Speaker 2>people that hate everything he says. And I don't fully

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<v Speaker 2>agree with him even on this point, but I feel

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01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:16.439
<v Speaker 2>like he is making a very very valid point when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to this and the merger and all these

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<v Speaker 2>things are the biot, I should say. He says, China's

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01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:26.319
<v Speaker 2>feedback loop just got cut. So let's talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more in depth. Here's Ryan macbeth.

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<v Speaker 7>The United States just won its first battle and the

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<v Speaker 7>coming war with China today, and nobody even knows who

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01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.239
<v Speaker 7>fired a shot. He goes today, TikTok is officially sold

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01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:40.079
<v Speaker 7>to Oracle for anyone goes right, it's just an app.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me stop you right there. TikTok was not just

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01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:45.560
<v Speaker 7>an app. TikTok was a Chinese information warfare system. And

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<v Speaker 7>today the United States just took a major fires platform

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01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:53.199
<v Speaker 7>off the table. TikTok was a weapons system that.

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<v Speaker 9>Was just as damaging as a cruise missile.

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<v Speaker 7>And to explain what that matters, I need to explain

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<v Speaker 7>one concept people keep missing. Information warfare is fires, not messaging,

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01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:09.079
<v Speaker 7>not persuasion, not propaganda. Fires no different than a cruise

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01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 7>missile or artillery in the military. Fires is anything that

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<v Speaker 7>creates effects at a distance, like artillery, airstrikes a loitering munition.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't use fires to convince the enemy, use fires

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<v Speaker 7>to shape the battlefield so maneuvering becomes easier. Information warfare

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01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:29.640
<v Speaker 7>works the same way. The goal isn't necessarily to change minds.

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01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:34.039
<v Speaker 7>The goal is to delay decisions or fracture trust, increase friction,

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01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:39.239
<v Speaker 7>force over reaction, or even cause kinetic effects. One of

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<v Speaker 7>the things I like to bring up is the attack

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<v Speaker 7>on the MV Cape Orlando, which was done by pro

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<v Speaker 7>Hamas factions that thought there are weapons systems getting sent

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01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:52.840
<v Speaker 7>to Israel on the MVKPE Orlando.

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<v Speaker 9>So TikTok told.

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<v Speaker 7>Them go glue yourself to the side of the ship

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<v Speaker 7>to prevent it from leaving.

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<v Speaker 9>This kind of attack used to require a missile.

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<v Speaker 7>If you wanted to take out a ship, you had

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<v Speaker 7>to use a missile, or get some Navy seals in there,

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01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:09.039
<v Speaker 7>put a mine on the bottom of the ship blow

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01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:14.159
<v Speaker 7>it up. Instead, you just send information toward people and

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01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:18.239
<v Speaker 7>convince them to perform the attack themselves. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 7>wondered why disinformation feels chaotic and stupid, it's because fires

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01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 7>aren't elegant, right, They're loud, they're disruptive, and they don't

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<v Speaker 7>care about collateral damage. TikTok wasn't dangerous because of American

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01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:34.439
<v Speaker 7>teenagers dancing. TikTok was dangerous because it functioned as a

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01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:38.760
<v Speaker 7>real time sentiment sensor and a precision targeting system for narratives.

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<v Speaker 7>This thing could deliver time disinformation no different than time artillery, brage,

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01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.239
<v Speaker 7>bite dance. Didn't necessarily need to tell TikTok what to

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01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:50.479
<v Speaker 7>push politically, they only needed to control the algorithm and

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01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:54.159
<v Speaker 7>amplify content that fit their criteria. Good example of how

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01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:56.119
<v Speaker 7>information warfare can work as fires.

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<v Speaker 9>Let's talk about Russia.

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01:11:58.039 --> 01:11:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Say you're Russia and you want to stop the United

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<v Speaker 7>States from sending artillery rounds to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 9>You could fire a cruise missile at the shell factory

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<v Speaker 9>in scram Pennsylvania.

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01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:09.680
<v Speaker 7>Rushi has that capability or you'd get Tucker Carlson claim

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01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:11.960
<v Speaker 7>that half of all artillery shells being sent to Ukraine

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01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.039
<v Speaker 7>are ending up in the hands of drug cartels in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 10>Fact is, Ukrainian military is selling a huge percentage, up

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01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:19.960
<v Speaker 10>to half of the arms that we send them half

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<v Speaker 10>And I'm not guessing about this. I know that for

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01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 10>a fact, a fact, okay, not speculation, and they're selling

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<v Speaker 10>it and a lot of us winding up with the

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<v Speaker 10>drug cartels on our border.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, I wasn't aware that the Cineloa carteled and Triple

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01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:35.199
<v Speaker 7>seven howards.

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<v Speaker 9>But it doesn't have to make sense. It just has

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01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:39.800
<v Speaker 9>to be repeated enough.

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01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 7>Online that the average person calls their congressmen or tweets

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01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:47.479
<v Speaker 7>at their congressmen and says, you need to stop sending

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01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:51.960
<v Speaker 7>shells to Ukraine because they're going to Sinaloa cartel members.

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<v Speaker 7>And we've seen how spineless Congress is. How fast are

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01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:01.039
<v Speaker 7>they going to vote to prevent shells getting sent to Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>The effect is the same as a missile. The effect

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01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.800
<v Speaker 7>is the same as destroying the factory. Information warfare as

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01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:11.920
<v Speaker 7>a weapons effector now imagine millions of Tucker Carlson's that

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01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.960
<v Speaker 7>are being generated and controlled by AI and designed to

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01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:20.239
<v Speaker 7>influence you personally. Imagine content that is created by AI

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01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:24.000
<v Speaker 7>targeting you because it knows what you like, what you dislike,

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01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:26.199
<v Speaker 7>how to influence you personally.

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01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:29.640
<v Speaker 9>Combine that with TikTok's algorithm.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, we've already seen it with the Asian Silver Guy,

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<v Speaker 7>which is really a criminal gang that uses AI generated

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01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:38.520
<v Speaker 7>videos to manipulate silver prices.

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<v Speaker 9>Micro targeted on the fly, AI.

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01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.439
<v Speaker 7>Generated information warfare that is custom designed to target you

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01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.079
<v Speaker 7>and get you to perform an action such as reposting

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01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:51.600
<v Speaker 7>we don't need to fight for Taiwan. They've always been Chinese.

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01:13:52.199 --> 01:13:54.840
<v Speaker 7>And then you tweet at your congressman and say, don't

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01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:59.840
<v Speaker 7>you dare support sending military troops to Taiwan. If we

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<v Speaker 7>let TikTok continue, it would turn into an AI controlled

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<v Speaker 7>weapons system.

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<v Speaker 9>And the target is really you. That's it.

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<v Speaker 7>If you can see what makes the population angry, what

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01:14:12.079 --> 01:14:15.960
<v Speaker 7>makes the disengage or polarize or stop trusting institutions, you

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01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:19.680
<v Speaker 7>don't necessarily need a cruise missile to accomplish the objective.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll do it ourselves with protesters. TikTok was not propaganda

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01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:26.079
<v Speaker 7>in the old sense. It was fire control and kind of.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's the key point. China does not think about war

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01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:33.159
<v Speaker 7>the way Americans do. They don't separate military conflict, political warfare,

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01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:37.039
<v Speaker 7>and information operations. It's all the same. It's all one continuum.

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01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:41.319
<v Speaker 7>China has this three warfare strategy, which means media warfare,

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01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:46.039
<v Speaker 7>legal warfare, and psychological warfare. In PLA doctrine, shaping the

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01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:49.319
<v Speaker 7>information environment before crisis is how you win without firing

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01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:52.039
<v Speaker 7>a shot. Like sun Zu said, right to win without

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01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:56.199
<v Speaker 7>fighting is best. If you can erode trust and elections,

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01:14:56.319 --> 01:15:00.720
<v Speaker 7>undermine confidence institutions, and normalize internal conflict. You don't need

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01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:02.720
<v Speaker 7>to defeat the US military on the battlefield.

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01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:03.520
<v Speaker 9>That's hard.

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01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:07.439
<v Speaker 7>You just need to make sure it can't be employed coherently.

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<v Speaker 7>Because you have people tweeting at their congressmen not to

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01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:13.960
<v Speaker 7>support Taiwan because I don't know, Tucker Carlson will come

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01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:17.399
<v Speaker 7>up with a reason. Now, let's talk about why Oracle matters.

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01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:21.560
<v Speaker 7>Oracle doesn't make TikTok better and necessarily safer. Oracle makes

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01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:25.199
<v Speaker 7>TikTok less useful as a weapon because Oracle controls the data,

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01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 7>the infrastructure, the recommendation algorithm, and auditibility, and China lose

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01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:33.720
<v Speaker 7>something critically they lose feedback. A fire system.

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01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:36.880
<v Speaker 9>Without feedback is blind. Right. Even artillery needs spotters.

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01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:39.279
<v Speaker 7>You can launch rounds, you just don't know where they

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01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:43.960
<v Speaker 7>land without a spotter. Oracle can't stop TikTok from existing,

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01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:47.640
<v Speaker 7>but they can stop TikTok from functioning as a Chinese

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01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:53.199
<v Speaker 7>weapons platform, and that is a massive difference. This is

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01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:57.600
<v Speaker 7>counter battery fire really not censorship. And this is the

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01:15:57.640 --> 01:15:59.960
<v Speaker 7>part and a lot of people misunderstand. If China part

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01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:03.560
<v Speaker 7>artillery battery inside an American media company, we wouldn't debate

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01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 7>free speech, would remove the freaking gun.

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01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:09.159
<v Speaker 9>Right. TikTok under bike Dance is a foreign fires.

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<v Speaker 7>Platform embedded in US civil society, literally running on our phones.

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<v Speaker 9>Oracle is the sandbag bunker, right taking.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So again a couple of key points that

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<v Speaker 2>mister macbeth just made.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, right, off the rip.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that he called out Tucker Carlson for being

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01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:29.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking retarded.

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<v Speaker 3>He knows for a fact that half.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the munitions that we're sending to Ukraine is going

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<v Speaker 2>to the Cartels artillery.

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<v Speaker 4>Where since proof he has, I mean, I just want

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01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 4>to see like actual proof when people, when politicians or

1475
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:47.319
<v Speaker 4>people that have high up positions where they can heavily

1476
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:50.039
<v Speaker 4>influence people just start spouting out at the mouth.

1477
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:53.119
<v Speaker 5>I want them to actually back themselves.

1478
01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:56.960
<v Speaker 4>I e. Trump is you know, notorious for seeing fucking

1479
01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:00.159
<v Speaker 4>off the wall shit that have no bearing, no backing.

1480
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:03.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, if you're if you're in a position where

1481
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:10.079
<v Speaker 4>people can fact check its fat fat check you. Oh man,

1482
01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:13.760
<v Speaker 4>it's late and I'm just obviously tongue tied, but be

1483
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:17.600
<v Speaker 4>able to check you and you, you know, say things

1484
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:22.119
<v Speaker 4>that are not true. Some people are not smart enough

1485
01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:26.359
<v Speaker 4>or they're just you know, pretty much cheap, will believe

1486
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:29.439
<v Speaker 4>everything that you're they hear without it ever trying to

1487
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:33.279
<v Speaker 4>disprove it. I really think that they should be held

1488
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:35.840
<v Speaker 4>more accountable, especially when they talk about things that can

1489
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 4>really impact people.

1490
01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:40.439
<v Speaker 3>I agree. And Tucker cross and speaks to the boomer generation.

1491
01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he speaks to the younger crowd too, because he's

1492
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:44.439
<v Speaker 2>seen as like.

1493
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:47.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he left Fox News, he's all about the truth now.

1494
01:17:47.119 --> 01:17:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I bet there are so many people that used to

1495
01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>live off of Fox News that now live off of Tucker.

1496
01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:57.800
<v Speaker 2>And the problem is he he's still the same guy.

1497
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.319
<v Speaker 2>His dad was still a CIA guy, and he forgot

1498
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:03.720
<v Speaker 2>about that until like a year ago, two years ago,

1499
01:18:03.800 --> 01:18:05.319
<v Speaker 2>something like that, which is mind blowing to me.

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01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:08.159
<v Speaker 5>But whatever, maybe he went under hypnosis and it like

1501
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:08.920
<v Speaker 5>re emerged.

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01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Actually there might be something to that, but not in

1503
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the way that you're saying it, because he was also

1504
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:17.479
<v Speaker 2>a deadhead for years, like he followed the grateful dead

1505
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and just did mass amounts of psychedelics in his youth

1506
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and then cut to now he's like the voice of

1507
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:27.720
<v Speaker 2>conservatism or something that just like magically transitionally happened. Never

1508
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:29.640
<v Speaker 2>mind the fact that his dad was a big media

1509
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:30.520
<v Speaker 2>CIA guy.

1510
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:31.560
<v Speaker 3>That's that's crazy.

1511
01:18:32.039 --> 01:18:34.359
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so he knows for a fact that somehow

1512
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.720
<v Speaker 2>how it surrounds are making their way to the cartels,

1513
01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:43.560
<v Speaker 2>which is fucking actually retarded, like whatever, But.

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01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:46.039
<v Speaker 4>If you know any I mean, just the studies though

1515
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:48.399
<v Speaker 4>show you that if you speak with any type of

1516
01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:53.119
<v Speaker 4>authoritative voice and you believe or at least you're portraying

1517
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:56.720
<v Speaker 4>that you believe exactly what you're saying, at least like

1518
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.439
<v Speaker 4>twenty percent of the people, like we're talking low numbers,

1519
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:01.800
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be leave what you're saying.

1520
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.039
<v Speaker 5>So he doesn't need to have any backing.

1521
01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Even they're fucking sending him over there and blah blah

1522
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:10.600
<v Speaker 4>blah blah. It's like, Okay, you could, you could really

1523
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:15.319
<v Speaker 4>look stuff up, you really could, but but he won't.

1524
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:16.359
<v Speaker 3>It's the same with Russia.

1525
01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Whenever he win did his interview with Putin, Yeah, and

1526
01:19:19.279 --> 01:19:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I was I was super stoked for that. By the way,

1527
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:24.760
<v Speaker 2>how he got that information, how he got the plug

1528
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to go over and do that interview.

1529
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:29.279
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't even agreed to it, Like I feel like

1530
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:33.399
<v Speaker 4>Putin just is kind of like tolerating people these days,

1531
01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:34.960
<v Speaker 4>he's just so over people.

1532
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Shit.

1533
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, but at the same time, whenever you watch

1534
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:43.399
<v Speaker 2>the interview, it was two hours of Tucker basically softballing

1535
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:46.560
<v Speaker 2>questions to him and him giving a two hour history

1536
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:51.279
<v Speaker 2>lesson on traditional Russia. That's all it actually was. And

1537
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:54.279
<v Speaker 2>then somehow it ended with, well, Ukraine's always been Russian,

1538
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:57.279
<v Speaker 2>so why isn't it's still Russian? And it's like, okay,

1539
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:02.439
<v Speaker 2>by that logic, England has always been a part of

1540
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:04.640
<v Speaker 2>the Roman Empire, so why didn't Italy still own it?

1541
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:06.319
<v Speaker 3>That's how fucking stupid.

1542
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:09.880
<v Speaker 5>That is out loud, like borders change.

1543
01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:12.520
<v Speaker 3>That's how that's how history takes place.

1544
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:15.000
<v Speaker 2>But sure, okay, and then now Tucker is like fully

1545
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.880
<v Speaker 2>convinced that the Ukrainians are actually the bad guys and

1546
01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Russia's actually the good guys. They are fighting for their life,

1547
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:23.239
<v Speaker 2>and that America is an open war with Russia and

1548
01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:25.920
<v Speaker 2>all this. I'm like, I must have missed the marine

1549
01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:27.720
<v Speaker 2>battalion that got sent to fight Russia.

1550
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:30.359
<v Speaker 3>I must have missed that that little uh plug in

1551
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:31.319
<v Speaker 3>the news there, Tucker.

1552
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:33.960
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't it doesn't matter, It doesn't, it doesn't follow

1553
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:34.520
<v Speaker 5>the narrative.

1554
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.680
<v Speaker 2>And every time he gets checked, like actually checked by

1555
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:40.960
<v Speaker 2>somebody who knows more than him, he quickly diverts the

1556
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:44.239
<v Speaker 2>conversation and make some other ash like crazy point.

1557
01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:46.479
<v Speaker 3>But that's that's how the media runs.

1558
01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:49.039
<v Speaker 2>And so all right, now, aside from the Tucker shit,

1559
01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:54.359
<v Speaker 2>back to the TikTok situation, right, what is your take

1560
01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:58.560
<v Speaker 2>on Ryan's assertion that TikTok is an information loop which

1561
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:01.880
<v Speaker 2>can be used as a way of warfare against the

1562
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:02.760
<v Speaker 2>American people.

1563
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:08.760
<v Speaker 5>I think it's actually a smart idea. Yeah. Actually, I

1564
01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:10.720
<v Speaker 5>was looking at this whole background. I was like, oh,

1565
01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:12.600
<v Speaker 5>we got a lot of shit on the walls. So

1566
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:14.399
<v Speaker 5>this dude, in my own heart of a bunch of

1567
01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:15.279
<v Speaker 5>shit on walls.

1568
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:19.119
<v Speaker 2>So this dude is a Marine Corpvette and he currently

1569
01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:22.159
<v Speaker 2>works for a company who basically finds the bad guy

1570
01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:25.800
<v Speaker 2>whenever a information packet gets put together to give to

1571
01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Delta or to a drone group or whatever, and they

1572
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:32.960
<v Speaker 2>need to know the whereabouts about shithead Number A and

1573
01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:36.479
<v Speaker 2>his family. Ryan's the guy that puts that packet together

1574
01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that the drone hal shirt.

1575
01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:44.479
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, like, ah, okay, well, I mean I think

1576
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:48.279
<v Speaker 4>he has a really good point, you know, being able

1577
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:51.000
<v Speaker 4>to use that all the data is being collected. I

1578
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:54.640
<v Speaker 4>think it's it's just mass propaganda and and everything that

1579
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:59.439
<v Speaker 4>they're collecting is figuring out how the information flows to

1580
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:03.680
<v Speaker 4>the American people, what they're clicking on, what they're more engaged.

1581
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:06.279
<v Speaker 5>With, what they you know, what are they liking.

1582
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.279
<v Speaker 4>More of, how people talk, how people are responding, what

1583
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:12.199
<v Speaker 4>are they talking about, you know, how to be able

1584
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:17.239
<v Speaker 4>to sway the masses. It's interesting. I've watched some different

1585
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:21.159
<v Speaker 4>things happen when things go viral. I've found like one

1586
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:23.760
<v Speaker 4>or two clips of somebody talking about something and then

1587
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:26.920
<v Speaker 4>give it a few days and suddenly that became viral,

1588
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:28.479
<v Speaker 4>and so you kind of like track it back and

1589
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:31.520
<v Speaker 4>see who's been talking about it. All of that matters

1590
01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:34.680
<v Speaker 4>when you're trying to sway the narrative to people, and

1591
01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:37.560
<v Speaker 4>we're trying to turn people on each other, and you're

1592
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:41.960
<v Speaker 4>trying to create chaos within a country and keep them

1593
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:44.600
<v Speaker 4>destabilized and keep them fighting each other.

1594
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the.

1595
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 4>Whole thing with the isis thing right, or the isis thing,

1596
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:53.720
<v Speaker 4>the ice thing, Like, that's just an example because you

1597
01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:57.680
<v Speaker 4>have so much polarizing viewpoints. Right now, you have four

1598
01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:00.079
<v Speaker 4>different camera angles that have come out as of a

1599
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:04.399
<v Speaker 4>few hours ago. Everyone is talking about it from different perspectives.

1600
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:05.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some of.

1601
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Them are being pushed and funneled more than other ones.

1602
01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:10.399
<v Speaker 4>Other ones are being It's just it just depends on

1603
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:13.520
<v Speaker 4>your algorithm. And because I have multiple accounts that I

1604
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:17.920
<v Speaker 4>purposely follow different things on each account, I'm seeing different

1605
01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:21.560
<v Speaker 4>stuff consistently being pumped on those accounts. And then I

1606
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:23.920
<v Speaker 4>read the comments. I know you're not a comment person,

1607
01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:27.119
<v Speaker 4>but I love reading all the comments because I see

1608
01:23:27.159 --> 01:23:29.680
<v Speaker 4>we're kind of people. At least in the comment section,

1609
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.000
<v Speaker 4>you can kind of gauge how people are responding, reacting,

1610
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:35.600
<v Speaker 4>and what's kind of going on with that. And I

1611
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:38.600
<v Speaker 4>think all of that information will be used against the

1612
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:39.800
<v Speaker 4>American people.

1613
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Right and let's talk about the Ice situation for a second,

1614
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:46.199
<v Speaker 2>not the big one that everybody's talking about right now,

1615
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:49.279
<v Speaker 2>or the quote unquote big one from last week when

1616
01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:52.119
<v Speaker 2>that woman tried running over an ICE agent. Okay, My

1617
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:57.159
<v Speaker 2>point is there are thousands of arrests being made right now,

1618
01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:00.119
<v Speaker 2>and yes, you want to argue about how some of

1619
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:03.039
<v Speaker 2>them might be you know, somebody's mama that they picked

1620
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:05.600
<v Speaker 2>up at her place of business and all this. Never

1621
01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:09.439
<v Speaker 2>mind the gang members, never mind the cartel affiliates and

1622
01:24:09.479 --> 01:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>all of these other people that are being snatched up

1623
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and sent back home. What we need to talk about

1624
01:24:15.640 --> 01:24:19.119
<v Speaker 2>is what's going down in Minnesota. Never mind all the

1625
01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Somalian shit that was going on there that we just

1626
01:24:22.359 --> 01:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>did an episode on, right.

1627
01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:26.279
<v Speaker 4>It's still going on. Actually, so much more has been

1628
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:27.000
<v Speaker 4>happening with that.

1629
01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

1630
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:28.680
<v Speaker 3>But that's my point, Raven.

1631
01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>No one's talking about that because we need to talk

1632
01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:34.279
<v Speaker 2>about these people getting killed by ICE agents because Ice

1633
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:34.760
<v Speaker 2>is mean.

1634
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:38.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, there's lots of that. There's lots of

1635
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.800
<v Speaker 4>stuff going on with that, though I really I don't know.

1636
01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:42.680
<v Speaker 4>I have my own opinion about some of that, but

1637
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:47.439
<v Speaker 4>I think that it's it's it's classic though that that's

1638
01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:49.600
<v Speaker 4>why they did all the studies and everything in the

1639
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:52.560
<v Speaker 4>fifties and the forties to be able to figure out how.

1640
01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:53.880
<v Speaker 5>To change the narrative. It's the same thing.

1641
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:57.119
<v Speaker 4>But what they did though to create this whole black

1642
01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:00.279
<v Speaker 4>is bad thing and how they use that for so long,

1643
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:03.479
<v Speaker 4>and there's the Harvard study on it and everything.

1644
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:07.520
<v Speaker 5>It's all been used against us. This is no different.

1645
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:09.640
<v Speaker 4>It just has a prettier bow on it because now

1646
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:12.760
<v Speaker 4>you have like dancing memes and like you know, cat videos.

1647
01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:14.279
<v Speaker 3>That's it's all whatever.

1648
01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:17.560
<v Speaker 4>So oh yeah, I mean, but that's the thing, though,

1649
01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:20.960
<v Speaker 4>is you can see something on TikTok where it's like

1650
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:23.800
<v Speaker 4>the world is burning, and then the next video it's

1651
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:27.000
<v Speaker 4>like yay, And then you know, you're up and down,

1652
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:27.600
<v Speaker 4>up and down.

1653
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:28.680
<v Speaker 5>Your dopemins are.

1654
01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:31.319
<v Speaker 4>High, and then they dump and then you're depressed because

1655
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:33.199
<v Speaker 4>you're watching this, So you don't want to watch that anymore.

1656
01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:36.720
<v Speaker 4>So you're gonna doom scroll and you're gonna keep doom scrolling.

1657
01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:39.439
<v Speaker 5>And fine things that make you happy or make you numb,

1658
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:40.560
<v Speaker 5>or you just don't care.

1659
01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:43.279
<v Speaker 4>You're just watching it to watch it the filler stuff

1660
01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:45.920
<v Speaker 4>instead of really paying attention or if you go down

1661
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:48.079
<v Speaker 4>these rabbit holes, then you get sucked in, and then

1662
01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:49.960
<v Speaker 4>you get so depressed that you don't want to come

1663
01:25:50.039 --> 01:25:53.039
<v Speaker 4>up for you air, and then you go like all

1664
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.159
<v Speaker 4>of it is crazy, how it's impacting us as a

1665
01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:59.159
<v Speaker 4>whole exact, and how they're going to use this information

1666
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:01.720
<v Speaker 4>against us. And I think that this is going to

1667
01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:05.840
<v Speaker 4>be the way that they get people to sign up

1668
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:08.079
<v Speaker 4>for the fifteen minute cities, the way that they get

1669
01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:11.039
<v Speaker 4>people to have a chip s embedded in them, to

1670
01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:13.760
<v Speaker 4>get people to sign up for you know, wearing these

1671
01:26:14.199 --> 01:26:17.880
<v Speaker 4>the oculus, except now the oculus becomes your daily thing,

1672
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:20.079
<v Speaker 4>where like, hey, you don't have to leave your house,

1673
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:22.640
<v Speaker 4>you can just do this, like.

1674
01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:26.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, no, I agree with you one hundred percent.

1675
01:26:26.199 --> 01:26:28.199
<v Speaker 2>And for the record, I'm not trying to open an

1676
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:30.039
<v Speaker 2>ice debate with our comments.

1677
01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:31.079
<v Speaker 3>Sectionary of these things.

1678
01:26:31.119 --> 01:26:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Listen, like them, hate them, whatever the point is, they

1679
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:38.319
<v Speaker 2>are diverting your attention away from where it should be.

1680
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I am not saying that there is not wrongful killings

1681
01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:43.600
<v Speaker 2>that take place by federal agents and your local law

1682
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>enforcement from time to time. This definitely takes place, but

1683
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>it's the same conversation as George Floyd, Right, They were

1684
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to push that so hard that you didn't pay

1685
01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:57.159
<v Speaker 2>attention to anything else. Next thing, you know, all cops

1686
01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:59.560
<v Speaker 2>are bastards. We need to protest the police. We need

1687
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to have all these riots and all this shit. Meanwhile

1688
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>the police, thousands of things can take place in a

1689
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>day to day basis of good things. A police officers

1690
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:13.439
<v Speaker 2>doing really good jobs. But you're not seeing that. You're

1691
01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>seeing the out in Sterling. You're seeing the Brianna excuse me,

1692
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Brianna Lynch I think her name was. You're looking at

1693
01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the the George Floyd's. You're looking at these things because

1694
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what the algorithm is going to consistently push in

1695
01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>your face.

1696
01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Right now.

1697
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:33.119
<v Speaker 2>The algorithm is pushing these ice agents that did that

1698
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>to that woman and did that to.

1699
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:37.760
<v Speaker 4>This There's a lot of I mean, the conversation though,

1700
01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:43.640
<v Speaker 4>should be had when it comes to over excessive force

1701
01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and things that are happening. Sure, you know, there's there's

1702
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:50.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot of things that should More training should take

1703
01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:54.680
<v Speaker 4>place with law enforcement and things like that so that

1704
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:57.720
<v Speaker 4>way we're not having jumping the gun and like you know,

1705
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:01.279
<v Speaker 4>being able to detain people without killing them and doing

1706
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:04.239
<v Speaker 4>different things like that. I think there's at least there

1707
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:07.319
<v Speaker 4>is room to have these conversations. Sure, but to your point,

1708
01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:09.680
<v Speaker 4>there's so much other things that, so many other things

1709
01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:12.359
<v Speaker 4>that are happening right now that should be allowed to

1710
01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:16.359
<v Speaker 4>be on the same table as talking points of like, hey,

1711
01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:20.560
<v Speaker 4>all of these things matter, not just one central thing.

1712
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:23.199
<v Speaker 4>Let's push this, let's push this, let's not talk about

1713
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:27.119
<v Speaker 4>anything else behind here, about what's actually happening, and like,

1714
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:30.840
<v Speaker 4>what's really going on globally? We need to just focus

1715
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:33.880
<v Speaker 4>on one one topic. But then give it like a week,

1716
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:36.640
<v Speaker 4>and something else will happen, and then American people will

1717
01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:39.439
<v Speaker 4>shift their attention to something else. And like it's just

1718
01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:42.319
<v Speaker 4>it's consistent back and forth to where you can't come

1719
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:45.279
<v Speaker 4>up for air. You're always your head's always being held

1720
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:47.720
<v Speaker 4>down under the water, so there's no coming up from

1721
01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:50.560
<v Speaker 4>air trying to get a break, trying to figure out, like,

1722
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:54.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, okay, what is really going on, what should

1723
01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:56.479
<v Speaker 4>we really be focusing on, And then if you do,

1724
01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:58.399
<v Speaker 4>then you look like a conspiracy theorist, and.

1725
01:28:58.319 --> 01:29:00.720
<v Speaker 5>You know, that's just so bad, and it's like.

1726
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:05.439
<v Speaker 4>Okay, even I saw I saw a model tonight. Actually

1727
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:09.399
<v Speaker 4>he's like a really famous model that in he's I

1728
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:09.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know.

1729
01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:12.600
<v Speaker 5>He's he's really popular, has like millions of followers. He

1730
01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:15.279
<v Speaker 5>just did a video though of him and his buddy

1731
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:15.520
<v Speaker 5>in the.

1732
01:29:15.479 --> 01:29:19.199
<v Speaker 4>Car and he's like he's like, oh yeah, so you

1733
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:21.399
<v Speaker 4>know the world ran by like these lizard people and

1734
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:24.159
<v Speaker 4>like there it's all one world, you know, New World Order,

1735
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:26.600
<v Speaker 4>and like everything's corrupt and like goes on this whole

1736
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:30.359
<v Speaker 4>terror really quick of like a thirty sex and sex

1737
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:35.159
<v Speaker 4>and thirty second synapsis of everything that's happening, and he's like,

1738
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:37.119
<v Speaker 4>but hey, it's nothing to worry about and kind of

1739
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:39.760
<v Speaker 4>gives you a look and it's like, okay, so a

1740
01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:44.600
<v Speaker 4>model that's like in his twenties is saying this, and

1741
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:46.279
<v Speaker 4>like he has millions of followers.

1742
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:48.479
<v Speaker 5>Maybe that will actually reach people.

1743
01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:51.159
<v Speaker 4>But even then, it's like people are waking up, but

1744
01:29:51.239 --> 01:29:53.680
<v Speaker 4>also not waking up. It's right, It's it's really weird

1745
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:54.880
<v Speaker 4>how that keeps happening.

1746
01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>But that's that's the point, right, And again to circle

1747
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>back soda, what we should be focused on right now

1748
01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>is the massive amount of money that has been sent

1749
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:11.159
<v Speaker 2>to terrorist organizations from our tax dollars. But we're more

1750
01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:16.239
<v Speaker 2>focused on a killing one dude. Never mind the terrorist

1751
01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:19.159
<v Speaker 2>organization and how many people they've killed, right, never mind

1752
01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the genocide that is going on in Africa right now

1753
01:30:22.039 --> 01:30:27.279
<v Speaker 2>against Christians by this very, very same organization that has

1754
01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:30.319
<v Speaker 2>been funded by our tax dollars backdoor through these Somalis

1755
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.439
<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. We need to worry about this one white guy.

1756
01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that we should detract from that.

1757
01:30:36.039 --> 01:30:38.119
<v Speaker 2>It is something we need to look into one hundred percent.

1758
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>The algorithm is pushing everybody in a certain direction, and

1759
01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that that was the CCP's fault. I'm

1760
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>saying that the CCP up until now, has been using

1761
01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:51.239
<v Speaker 2>it to do it to their benefit. So now the

1762
01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>US government is going to be using it for their

1763
01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:58.239
<v Speaker 2>benefit because Oracle is inherently tied to the United States government.

1764
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>And again I'm not saying you think.

1765
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:04.800
<v Speaker 4>They're gonna censor us like they do everywhere else, but

1766
01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:07.319
<v Speaker 4>they're going to be more strategic about it, more quiet,

1767
01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:09.840
<v Speaker 4>so that way you can't really understand that you're being

1768
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:11.119
<v Speaker 4>censored as much.

1769
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna take time to let that snowball

1770
01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>take shape, but I absolutely believe that that's the overall goal.

1771
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1772
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Freedom of speech has been an inherently American thing. A

1773
01:31:21.640 --> 01:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of countries don't have that. We make the joke

1774
01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:26.399
<v Speaker 2>about anything within the British Commonwealth not having the freedom

1775
01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>of speech. Most countries do not have freedom of speech

1776
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:32.039
<v Speaker 2>to the level that we do. And I know a

1777
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of people will argue me about that. No, it's

1778
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:37.600
<v Speaker 2>this hit and a hypothetical. They may have a version

1779
01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:41.520
<v Speaker 2>of it, but it's not to the same scope as

1780
01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:44.399
<v Speaker 2>the American people have freedom of speech.

1781
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I think that the powers that be see that as

1782
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:48.720
<v Speaker 3>a problem because.

1783
01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:50.279
<v Speaker 5>You're gonna start taking it away.

1784
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, information has power, right, even Tucker Carlson talking nonsense, right,

1785
01:31:56.680 --> 01:32:01.439
<v Speaker 2>he has the freedom to do so. Aoc any of

1786
01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:04.239
<v Speaker 2>our politicians whatever, They had the freedom to get on

1787
01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the mic and say whatever ridiculous things they want to say. True, false,

1788
01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>completely made up, completely, fact check doesn't matter. They had

1789
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:16.159
<v Speaker 2>the freedom to say it. And I agree with that. However,

1790
01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that the powers that be recognize the risk

1791
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>associated with that. One hundred years ago, you didn't have

1792
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:28.399
<v Speaker 2>the same reach that you have today. You had the radio,

1793
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:31.359
<v Speaker 2>and then the television came along and like that was it.

1794
01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>That was the end all be all of the reach

1795
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:36.479
<v Speaker 2>that somebody could have, and if you didn't like somebody,

1796
01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you just blackball them from that industry, whether it was

1797
01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:41.319
<v Speaker 2>from Hollywood, whether it was from the media, whatever the

1798
01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:43.840
<v Speaker 2>case is. They're on their ass and you never had

1799
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>to worry about them going to the papers and going

1800
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>viral over saying some wild shit because they've been ousted.

1801
01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>These days, everybody has in their pockets right now a

1802
01:32:54.960 --> 01:33:01.199
<v Speaker 2>professional grade camera, a professional audio recording device, and the

1803
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.840
<v Speaker 2>access to the Internet to where anything can go viral

1804
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>in a matter of minutes. And I think that the

1805
01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>powers that be recognized that. One hundred years ago, they

1806
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:13.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't account for that. Two hundred years ago, they didn't

1807
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:15.199
<v Speaker 2>account for that, And I think that they are gonna

1808
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>start trying to course correct now. I personally think that

1809
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Oracle is gonna be the thing that starts slowly but

1810
01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:25.520
<v Speaker 2>surely whittling away at our free speech. And even if

1811
01:33:25.520 --> 01:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>they don't take away your freedom to say whatever you

1812
01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>want and post whatever you want or whatever, they'll shadow

1813
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:33.079
<v Speaker 2>ban you to where yeah, you could say it, nobody's

1814
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna see it, nobody's gonna hear it, but you could

1815
01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>sure enough say it all you want, and it's gonna

1816
01:33:37.600 --> 01:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>start like that next thing you know, there's.

1817
01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:41.479
<v Speaker 5>Certain they're gonna take it.

1818
01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:44.279
<v Speaker 2>There are certain language that they're gonna say is too

1819
01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:48.439
<v Speaker 2>inflammatory or too unsafe, and then they're gonna start taking

1820
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:49.800
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit more and a little bit more.

1821
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.039
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing as a weapon with a magazine capacity.

1822
01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's direction it's going. So again, circling back

1823
01:33:57.039 --> 01:34:00.479
<v Speaker 2>to Brian macbeth, I don't always agree with his statements. However,

1824
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I do think that he was pretty on the money

1825
01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to this one.

1826
01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1827
01:34:04.319 --> 01:34:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I believe that China has been using TikTok as an

1828
01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:11.279
<v Speaker 2>information loop, not to persuade the American people, but more

1829
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.039
<v Speaker 2>or less to see what does and does not work

1830
01:34:14.119 --> 01:34:17.319
<v Speaker 2>to win the hearts and minds of two thirds of

1831
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:18.399
<v Speaker 2>the American population.

1832
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:21.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that that's absolutely been the point.

1833
01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:26.039
<v Speaker 2>So, now that it is only twenty percent owned by China,

1834
01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:29.520
<v Speaker 2>and you know sixty five or sorry, forty five percent

1835
01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of it is going to be owned by these three groups,

1836
01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>let's talk a little bit more about this. This article

1837
01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>is from Business Insider. What we know about who is

1838
01:34:39.319 --> 01:34:43.880
<v Speaker 2>buying TikTok's US businesses, let's get straight into it here.

1839
01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:46.039
<v Speaker 2>So we already talked about how they announced that who's

1840
01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:50.600
<v Speaker 2>buying it ByteDance is going to maintain nineteen point nine

1841
01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>minority stake, the maximum allowed by the divest or ban

1842
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:57.680
<v Speaker 2>law that spurred TikTok sale. The remaining thirty five point

1843
01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:00.520
<v Speaker 2>one percent will be controlled by a consortium ove investors,

1844
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:04.159
<v Speaker 2>including affiliates of some existing Byteedance investors.

1845
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:06.119
<v Speaker 3>So some of these.

1846
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Investors are already investors in byte Dance, So it's a

1847
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:12.319
<v Speaker 2>backdoor kind of deal, if you will. So some of

1848
01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the individuals are also getting a piece of TikTok Us,

1849
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>including the family office of Michael Dell, the founder of

1850
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Dell Technologies. We talked about that it's approaching a seven

1851
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>person board of directors. We already read down the list

1852
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:26.640
<v Speaker 2>of who these people are. The company did not provide

1853
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:29.279
<v Speaker 2>a valuation for the joint venture in its announcement. The

1854
01:35:29.279 --> 01:35:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Trump administration said in September that the entity was worth

1855
01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:36.039
<v Speaker 2>around fourteen billion dollars. The goal for the new venture

1856
01:35:36.359 --> 01:35:41.479
<v Speaker 2>is to secure US data trust and safety and content moderation. Again,

1857
01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:43.119
<v Speaker 2>this is what we're talking about here. It's going to

1858
01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>start in a very slow safety type of way until

1859
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:49.159
<v Speaker 2>the point to where it's fully just trying to protect

1860
01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:54.720
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote more accurate would say, control what you see

1861
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:56.640
<v Speaker 2>and how long you see it in all these things

1862
01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Byte Dance. Meanwhile, we'll continue to oversee key commercial areas

1863
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:05.880
<v Speaker 2>like e commerce, advertising and marketing. So China is still

1864
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:07.760
<v Speaker 2>going to make their money off of it, whether they

1865
01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:10.319
<v Speaker 2>can or can't control the algorithm. They're still making the

1866
01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:12.920
<v Speaker 2>commercial revenues on it. They're still making the ad revenues.

1867
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:15.319
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk a little bit about this here. Larry

1868
01:36:15.319 --> 01:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Ellison's Oracle will have a fifteen percent stake in the

1869
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:21.479
<v Speaker 2>new joint venture. On screen right now is Larry Ellison.

1870
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>People have probably seen his face before.

1871
01:36:24.079 --> 01:36:26.640
<v Speaker 5>He is a interesting looking individual.

1872
01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>He is one of the most human beings that's ever been.

1873
01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:34.159
<v Speaker 2>Like those dead ass eyes, Like he's like.

1874
01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:40.399
<v Speaker 5>Who is his name? York? What's his name? He was?

1875
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:43.079
<v Speaker 4>He's a famous actor that screwed up his face big

1876
01:36:43.119 --> 01:36:45.079
<v Speaker 4>time by all the filler and all that.

1877
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:47.479
<v Speaker 5>Mickey Roork Yeah, Mickey.

1878
01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mickey Rourke.

1879
01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:52.560
<v Speaker 5>He looks like him. He's like he got even worse

1880
01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:54.359
<v Speaker 5>with all the filler and everything.

1881
01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see it, and I mean you can see

1882
01:36:58.119 --> 01:37:01.600
<v Speaker 2>yet now when you go back to, oh shit, what

1883
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:03.079
<v Speaker 2>was what was the movie.

1884
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Harley Davidson, not the sun Dance kid.

1885
01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Before he starts screwing up his face that bad.

1886
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then you look at him in what was

1887
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:14.560
<v Speaker 3>that movie? He was in the Last Saw not Expendables

1888
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:15.399
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was.

1889
01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:18.520
<v Speaker 5>No, he was with He's in the Iron Man movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was the dude with the whips. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>you see the transition to goddamn. Oh Harley Davidson, the

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<v Speaker 2>Marlborough Man, that old movie from the eighties, which is a.

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01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:34.279
<v Speaker 3>Very nineteen eighties movie. I'll give you that.

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01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:37.720
<v Speaker 2>You look at that guy and then cut to the

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<v Speaker 2>guy in the second Iron Man movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like bro bro. But I mean the same could

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<v Speaker 3>be said for old sly.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the dude from Rocky and then you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the guy from well Rocky five and it's

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01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>uh or Rambo where he went to Asia and shit,

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01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like bro, y'all you should have stopped at the

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01:37:56.920 --> 01:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>plastic surgery.

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01:37:58.880 --> 01:38:00.800
<v Speaker 3>I just never did it, Like you should have just

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01:38:00.800 --> 01:38:02.079
<v Speaker 3>never did that. But whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, fucking love Rambow. I was just thinking about watching

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01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:06.000
<v Speaker 5>that the other.

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01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Day, the original Oh yeah, Oh, it's phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 5>It is. It's one of the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. Software Giant go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I said it. Anyways, back to this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, back to this dude.

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<v Speaker 2>So software giant Oracle will take a fifteen percent stake

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<v Speaker 2>in TikTok's US joint venture. Kenneth Gluick and AVP at Oracle,

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01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:28.479
<v Speaker 2>who advised the company CEO, would join the board of directors.

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<v Speaker 3>Prior to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Joint venture deal, Oracle was already working closely with TikTok's

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01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:35.840
<v Speaker 2>US data security division. The company has stored US TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>users data for years. Oracle has already been storing the

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok user data for years.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Larry Ellison, who is also a financial participant in a

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<v Speaker 2>bidding war for Warner Bros. Uh Discovery business, is the

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01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:55.399
<v Speaker 2>chairman and co founder of Oracle and a longtime Trump ally.

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<v Speaker 3>So again this Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oracle, which currently works with Talk on data security, is

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<v Speaker 2>expected to remain it's trusted security partner task with safeguarding

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01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>sensitives US user data. TikTok's new US owner will retrain

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01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:15.920
<v Speaker 2>retrain the content recommendation algorithm on US user data. So basically,

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<v Speaker 2>anything that you have had on your TikTok feed up

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<v Speaker 2>until now, it's going and wipe that slate clean. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get reworked, it's gonna get retrained. So that's fun,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's so fun. Orcle did not immediately respond to

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<v Speaker 2>a request for comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>Abu Dhabi's mg X is one of the three managing

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<v Speaker 2>investors taking over TikTok us. So on screen right now

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<v Speaker 2>is all US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the

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<v Speaker 2>mg X chairman, Sheik Tannun ben Zaid al Nayan. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is the I'm telling you. This is the chairman

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<v Speaker 2>of the the uae AI company sitting next to our

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's read into this.

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<v Speaker 2>MGX is a state owned investment firm in Abu Dhabi.

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<v Speaker 2>It will also have fifteen percent stake in the new

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok entity. Is one of the three managing investors. The

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<v Speaker 2>firm is focused on AI. So for anybody who is

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<v Speaker 2>out there watching TikTok hoping that maybe there'd be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more authentic TikTok content, now I just expect

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more AI, which I gotta be honest, I

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<v Speaker 2>have been expecting for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think it was gonna come in this form, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I believe that TikTok is going to become nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but Ai, AI videos, AI clips, AI voices, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be another social media platform where it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be no Ai whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that because that's how it's gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>The algorithm is gonna tool everything to you as an

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<v Speaker 2>individual to the point where everything is fake, nothing is

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<v Speaker 2>real anymore, and then people are gonna be screaming for

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<v Speaker 2>authenticity that they're actually gonna have to go towards a

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<v Speaker 2>different app to just get unadulterated, pure.

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<v Speaker 3>Free from Ai.

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<v Speaker 4>AI is so scary now though that you can't even

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<v Speaker 4>hardly tell some of the stuff. Some of it obviously

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<v Speaker 4>it's like outlandition, ridiculous, but yeah, some of it you.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't even tell that it's Ai at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching a content creator that got she discovered

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<v Speaker 4>that her video was completely changed. So AI took her

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<v Speaker 4>original video, created a whole new face and changed a

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<v Speaker 4>few of her body because she like dances in a

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<v Speaker 4>gas station or something like that, and completely changed like

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<v Speaker 4>who she was.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's her video.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just overlapped with like a new face on it

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much. Yeah, and changed like the body a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit and She's like, this is literally my video to

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<v Speaker 4>the tea.

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<v Speaker 5>Couldn't tell that it was not a real person at all.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's getting to that point and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let's continue on here, it says Sheikh Tahune,

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01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:58.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not rereading his name.

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<v Speaker 3>A member of Abu Dhabi's royal ruling family, is the

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<v Speaker 3>firm's chairman.

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<v Speaker 2>The fund participated in open AI's six point six billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar investment round in twenty twenty four. David Scott, mgx's

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<v Speaker 2>chief strategy and safety officer, will serve on the joint

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<v Speaker 2>venture Board of directors and Security Committee. According to TikTok's

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01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:22.079
<v Speaker 2>blog post announcing the joint venture, MGX also did not

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<v Speaker 2>respond for comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>So now let's talk about the private equity firm silver Lake,

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01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:31.760
<v Speaker 2>who will also hold a fifteen percent stake. Silver Lake

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<v Speaker 2>is a tech focused private equity firm. Its current investments

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<v Speaker 2>include Klarna, Karta, Dell Technologies, Genesis or I'm sorry, Genies,

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01:42:43.479 --> 01:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>and Waimo. Per the firm's website. Previously investments included Airbnb, Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tesla. So all right, again, if we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how the connection to money and AI and all these

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01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>things are connected. This company also is an investor of

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<v Speaker 2>Klarna and Karta, which people really need to be wary of.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about that at length Dell Technologies. Never mind

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01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Dell company themselves also have bought

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<v Speaker 2>in on this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's thirty percent they own.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another backdoors type of venture here. You know, they

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01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:21.560
<v Speaker 2>got a little bit here, they got a little bit there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like Charlie Sheen, they're by winning. I went here,

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01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:24.199
<v Speaker 2>and I win there.

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<v Speaker 4>If Dell owns fifteen percent, and then these people own

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01:43:27.680 --> 01:43:32.840
<v Speaker 4>fifteen percent and could potentially gift if they wanted to

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01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:36.039
<v Speaker 4>the Dell company their shares in this. You see it

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01:43:36.119 --> 01:43:38.680
<v Speaker 4>so that I mean Dell owns thirty percent of it,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's and what they're doing and everything else that Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's just it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Treating you know, one bad partner for another bad partner

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right.

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01:43:52.359 --> 01:43:54.079
<v Speaker 5>I think that's going to be the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Just this is going to start censoring us even more

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01:43:58.159 --> 01:43:59.000
<v Speaker 4>on what we can say.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent agree. So, and that's what I was saying earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>I am happy that China just lost their information loop.

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01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I am unhappy that they lost them to these people,

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01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:13.479
<v Speaker 2>these entities who are then going to use that information

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01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:15.720
<v Speaker 2>loop to hurt us. Now it's just going to be

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01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:19.119
<v Speaker 2>in house. But that's just the way of the Internet

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01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:21.079
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. So now let's talk about

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01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>this one. Michael Dell's family office is one of several

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01:44:23.880 --> 01:44:26.359
<v Speaker 2>new investors. As we just talked about one way, Dell

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01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:28.039
<v Speaker 2>just bought in on some of this. Let's talk about

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01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:31.319
<v Speaker 2>the direct line here. So Dell Technologies founder Michael Dell

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01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>has also involved in the deal. His office is one

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<v Speaker 2>of several new investors in TikTok. In September, Trump said

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<v Speaker 2>Dell would be involved in the deal. They didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about percentages on this article, but there we go. Seven

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<v Speaker 2>other investors will be part of the consortium. In addition

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<v Speaker 2>to Michael Dell's family office, TikTok named several other.

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01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Several other.

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01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Jesus several other investors as being part of the joint venture.

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<v Speaker 2>Some retired to existing Byte Dance investors, such as Vasmir

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01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Strategic Investments and an affiliate of the Susquehanna International Group.

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01:45:05.119 --> 01:45:08.119
<v Speaker 2>So we just talked about Vasmir Revolution is an investment

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01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:14.159
<v Speaker 2>firm where president JD. Vance previously worked, so jd Vance

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01:45:14.359 --> 01:45:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the vice president, I should say, Revolution is an investment.

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01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Firm where jd Vance used to work. Now we're tying

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01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:23.720
<v Speaker 3>in Peter Thiel. But okay.

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01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Merit Way, which is controlled and managed by partners of

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01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:32.039
<v Speaker 2>the investment group Dragonear Dragoneir, previously invested in byte Dance,

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01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:37.119
<v Speaker 2>so again it's still a connection to byte Dance via

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01:45:37.199 --> 01:45:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Nova is an affiliate of existing Byte Dance investor, General Atlantic,

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01:45:42.239 --> 01:45:44.520
<v Speaker 2>another connection of the Byte Dance. Either way it goes,

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01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:48.239
<v Speaker 2>these people are all connected, whether it's upfront or back door.

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01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:51.039
<v Speaker 3>But it's all within the works. It's all still within

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01:45:51.079 --> 01:45:52.680
<v Speaker 3>the family, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Virgo Lee, an investment arm of the Foundation established by

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01:45:56.560 --> 01:46:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Russian born Israeli tech entrepreneur investor Yurie alongside his wife

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01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Julia Miller or Milner found a DST Global, a Byte

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01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Dance investor, So.

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<v Speaker 5>That must be a different one that I found. There's

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<v Speaker 5>like four of them with that same name. So this

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<v Speaker 5>is really all the g I tracked. I retract all

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<v Speaker 5>the GI things.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess they got the wrong company because when I

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<v Speaker 4>looked it up, it said TikTok and it said that

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<v Speaker 4>one in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they may have done that too.

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<v Speaker 2>They may be using AI to do things in the

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<v Speaker 2>medical field with GI tracking and all this.

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<v Speaker 3>That could be the very same breath.

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<v Speaker 4>They might be because it said it said GI, it

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<v Speaker 4>said TikTok and then their names.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, I don't see why not, but

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<v Speaker 3>because that's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Or over here we're talking about investment groups, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about in the same conversation we're talking about AI groups.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same conversation we're talking about Warner, We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about WAIM the car company.

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<v Speaker 3>Right where all.

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<v Speaker 2>These things shouldn't be tied together, but they are because

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<v Speaker 2>of these individuals that.

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01:47:01.319 --> 01:47:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Are now all owners to a portion.

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<v Speaker 2>Of TikTok h Yeah, JJ Capitol, the family office of

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<v Speaker 2>Javier Neil, a French billionaire who sits on Byte Dance's

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01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:16.439
<v Speaker 2>board of directors. So although it may look like, oh,

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01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:18.760
<v Speaker 2>this French guy just bought a little bit with his company, no, no,

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01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>he's still a part of Byte Dance. So either way

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<v Speaker 2>it goes, whether it's six in one hand or a

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01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:26.640
<v Speaker 2>half dozen in this hand, it's the same fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on, Alpha Wave Partners, an investment firm headquartered in

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01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:35.800
<v Speaker 2>New York that has invested in companies like SpaceX, Open Ai,

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01:47:36.399 --> 01:47:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and mister Beast's Beast Industries. Again, the connections are all together.

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01:47:41.840 --> 01:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Remember earlier we're talk about SpaceX right here up here,

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01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>this group was involved with an investment in Tesla. Where's

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<v Speaker 2>it at? We just read it a second ago, Dell

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01:47:51.960 --> 01:47:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Technologies AIRBBN Tesla. No, no, no, that was a sorry, that

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01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:58.520
<v Speaker 2>was silver Lake. So Silverlake was invested in Tesla. And

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01:47:58.560 --> 01:48:02.119
<v Speaker 2>now this other group that is invested in SpaceX. Now

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01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:05.680
<v Speaker 2>both of them have some sort of a stake in

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01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:09.439
<v Speaker 2>the TikTok conversation. So we already talked about how by dance, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I have nineteen point nine percent of the venture and

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01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:19.039
<v Speaker 2>basically they're not having anything as far as the algorithm.

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01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:24.119
<v Speaker 2>They're just making straight at revenues handover fist. So anyway,

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01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:27.600
<v Speaker 2>this is another article I pulled up on da TV

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<v Speaker 2>China clears TikTok you has deal with Oracle and silver Lake.

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01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:34.319
<v Speaker 2>We've already talked about these things. I get it cool,

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01:48:34.399 --> 01:48:38.319
<v Speaker 2>cool cool. Now, with that all being said, Oracle slumps

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01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:42.439
<v Speaker 2>as gloomy forecast soaring spending, fan AI bubble worries.

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01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:45.079
<v Speaker 3>So This was in December of last year. I remember

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01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:45.840
<v Speaker 3>we talked about.

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01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:49.840
<v Speaker 2>That Oracle had a bubble, so to speak, as far

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01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:53.640
<v Speaker 2>as their stocks were concerned, and it burst right around

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01:48:53.640 --> 01:48:55.920
<v Speaker 2>the time when this venture was taking off.

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is from Reuter's on December eleventh of last year,

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01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:05.680
<v Speaker 2>just over a month and a half ago. Oracle shares

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01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:09.600
<v Speaker 2>sank thirteen percent on Thursdays, sparking a tech selloff as

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01:49:09.640 --> 01:49:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the company's massive spending and weak forecast fan doubts over

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01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:16.079
<v Speaker 2>how quickly the big bets on AI will pay off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious, and I did pull it up of

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01:49:18.199 --> 01:49:20.359
<v Speaker 2>what Oracle's current stock prices are, but we'll get to

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01:49:20.439 --> 01:49:23.279
<v Speaker 2>that in a moment. The disappointing predictions from the crucial

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01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>OpenAI cloud computing partner shows the uneven returns from the

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01:49:27.640 --> 01:49:31.399
<v Speaker 2>nascent technologies that many business leaders believe is the future

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01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:37.319
<v Speaker 2>but has so far yielded limited productivity gains. Okay, so, Oracle,

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01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:41.840
<v Speaker 2>long a smaller cloud player, has vaulted into the artificial

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01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:46.359
<v Speaker 2>intelligence infrastructure race this year thanks to a three hundred

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01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:50.880
<v Speaker 2>billion open Ai deal three hundred billion dollars huge, but

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01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:53.640
<v Speaker 2>the pact has also tethered the company's fortunes to a

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01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:57.680
<v Speaker 2>chat GPT maker, with shares sliding into in recent weeks

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01:49:57.720 --> 01:50:02.079
<v Speaker 2>on concern Google is pulling ahead of Open Ai. Investors

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01:50:02.079 --> 01:50:05.319
<v Speaker 2>have also dumped Oracles bonds on worrying about its debt

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01:50:05.359 --> 01:50:09.439
<v Speaker 2>fueled AI buildout, while pilling it or piling into credit

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01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:14.840
<v Speaker 2>default swaps that offer boundholders a hedge against default CDs,

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01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:18.359
<v Speaker 2>which is the credit default swaps for the company, which

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01:50:18.439 --> 01:50:21.720
<v Speaker 2>has around one hundred billion dollars in debt, rose nearly

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01:50:21.800 --> 01:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>twelve basis points on Thursday to at least a five

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01:50:25.039 --> 01:50:30.239
<v Speaker 2>year high. Okay, So with that being said, big text

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01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:33.520
<v Speaker 2>rising appetite for debt, including bond sales of more than

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01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:37.199
<v Speaker 2>thirty billion dollars by Meta fifteen billion dollars from Amazon

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01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:40.359
<v Speaker 2>dot Com right, has marked a departure for the companies

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01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:43.359
<v Speaker 2>that long depended on strong cash flows to fund spending

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01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>on new initiatives. Tech executives has said the outlays are

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01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:49.840
<v Speaker 2>necessary for a technology that will transform work and make

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01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:53.520
<v Speaker 2>businesses more efficient, arguing the bigger risk is under investing,

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01:50:54.279 --> 01:50:59.439
<v Speaker 2>but not overspending. So all right over here, we're seeing

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01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:03.359
<v Speaker 2>that the stock jumped after Oracle reports a four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty five billion dollars in booked revenue. And this

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01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:09.399
<v Speaker 2>was in September of twenty twenty five. That was the

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01:51:09.479 --> 01:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>giant jump. Then it dropped down in December, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it finally ended up at, but

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01:51:16.439 --> 01:51:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I will say that as of right now, Oracle is

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01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:21.600
<v Speaker 2>at one hundred and eighty two dollars and forty four

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<v Speaker 2>cents per share.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the business day today.

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01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Now, if we look at a six month grouping here,

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01:51:28.159 --> 01:51:29.760
<v Speaker 2>it was on the way down.

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01:51:30.079 --> 01:51:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I have a weird feeling, have a very very weird feeling.

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01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:34.920
<v Speaker 2>And again we're looking at this high over here in

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<v Speaker 2>September of three twenty eight, actually it was like four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred over here.

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01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Actually, not mistake.

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01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:43.840
<v Speaker 4>There's a whole bunch of information about them dumping the stocks.

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01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:46.399
<v Speaker 4>They pretty much were selling out before the bubble popped,

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01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:49.760
<v Speaker 4>exactly it came to Oracle, and so they've been dumping

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01:51:49.960 --> 01:51:51.680
<v Speaker 4>the stocks the billionaires have.

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01:51:52.079 --> 01:51:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And now that Oracle just bought a chunk of TikTok,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a weird feeling that that shit is about

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01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to skyrocket.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, actually, to be honest with you, I've

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01:52:03.720 --> 01:52:05.920
<v Speaker 4>read all sorts of different stuffs about it, about it.

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01:52:05.960 --> 01:52:08.039
<v Speaker 4>But I'm not really good with stock market stuff.

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01:52:08.199 --> 01:52:10.079
<v Speaker 3>I'll put it like this. I'll put it like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oracle just bought fifteen percent of a company that is

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01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:16.359
<v Speaker 2>used by two thirds of the entire American population.

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<v Speaker 3>That's I don't even know how else to come.

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<v Speaker 4>I had some extra change. I should throw some some

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01:52:21.880 --> 01:52:25.039
<v Speaker 4>money on Oracle. Yeah, I know how you really do stocks?

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01:52:25.079 --> 01:52:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Be honest with you. I actually have a buddy of mine.

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01:52:27.119 --> 01:52:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I have a few. One of them did stocks in

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01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:34.600
<v Speaker 4>the Marine Corps and actually made all of his money

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01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:36.079
<v Speaker 4>in Afghanistan.

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01:52:36.199 --> 01:52:37.159
<v Speaker 5>So he was set up.

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01:52:37.119 --> 01:52:38.720
<v Speaker 4>To buy a house, buy a car, and all this

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01:52:38.760 --> 01:52:40.399
<v Speaker 4>stuff when he got back cash free.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in cash free in cash.

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01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know what to do with it, and you

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01:52:45.560 --> 01:52:47.279
<v Speaker 2>know how to watch the trends and no when's a

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01:52:47.319 --> 01:52:48.920
<v Speaker 2>good time to buy and a good time to selling

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01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>all of these things, then that's like that is the thing,

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01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:52.039
<v Speaker 2>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I am so understood.

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01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I I have dabbled with it before, but I am

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01:52:57.359 --> 01:53:02.439
<v Speaker 2>so famously bad at gambling that pretty much. Even name

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01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:05.159
<v Speaker 2>the biggest stock you could think of, Google, It doesn't

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01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:08.960
<v Speaker 2>matter if Jacob puts in one dollar the stock is

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01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:12.479
<v Speaker 2>going to tank. It's if anything, y'all should be taking

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01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:15.439
<v Speaker 2>bets against whatever the fuck I invest with. Actually, I

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01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>might help the people out just to let the whole

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01:53:17.159 --> 01:53:21.600
<v Speaker 2>world know what's going on. But beside the point, Oracle

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01:53:21.680 --> 01:53:23.600
<v Speaker 2>is now making this kind of a play, and it

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01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:26.399
<v Speaker 2>just took effect this past week. So I have a

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01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:28.840
<v Speaker 2>weird feeling I could be wrong here that, yeah, they

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01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:32.800
<v Speaker 2>let the stock tank to get a lower evaluation because

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01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:35.199
<v Speaker 2>now all the big time investors are about to buy

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01:53:35.239 --> 01:53:36.760
<v Speaker 2>it all up for pennies on the dollar for what

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01:53:36.800 --> 01:53:38.119
<v Speaker 2>it used to be, and.

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<v Speaker 3>This is about to see a massive sore.

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01:53:41.279 --> 01:53:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Especially once they start formulating the algorithms for all the

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01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:48.840
<v Speaker 2>American people. Yeah, I could, I absolutely cold see that

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01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:52.720
<v Speaker 2>being the way. But I also find it interesting tie

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01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:56.479
<v Speaker 2>all of this together with the fact that China's military

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01:53:56.920 --> 01:53:59.760
<v Speaker 2>says that the top general undermines Jijupping's authority.

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01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:04.399
<v Speaker 3>China just had a coup attempt. This realistically just happened.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as people want to say that the Chinese

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01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>people love Ji and all these things all evidence to

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01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the contrary. This was essentially his chairman of the Joint

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01:54:13.239 --> 01:54:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs that tried to depose him.

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<v Speaker 3>Essentially, I don't.

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01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:21.359
<v Speaker 4>Can't believe that they actually had that happen. Sorry my

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<v Speaker 4>audio cutout for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>No, so let's read this article here.

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01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:28.800
<v Speaker 2>This is from FT dot com and I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>a whole spread on this one on the Cajun Night,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. So if you're listening to this on Friday,

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01:54:34.159 --> 01:54:37.119
<v Speaker 2>my spiel on this came out yesterday as of you

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01:54:37.159 --> 01:54:40.560
<v Speaker 2>know whatever. Anyway, China's military has accused its top general

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01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>of undermining the command authority of Jijiping, suggesting that ensuring

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01:54:43.680 --> 01:54:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the powers of the Chinese leader is behind a probe

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01:54:46.439 --> 01:54:50.520
<v Speaker 2>of Jiang Watsia I don't know how to pronounce Chinese words,

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01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, announced on Saturday, rather than just charges of corruption.

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01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:58.600
<v Speaker 2>So he's basically saying that, yeah, the corruption is so bad,

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01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:02.800
<v Speaker 2>but that's not even the point. It's all facade, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>So saying the vice chair of the Central Military Commission,

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01:55:06.520 --> 01:55:09.720
<v Speaker 2>excuse me, and I'm not going to pronounce that name either.

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01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Another CMC member, Chinese Military Command member and the People's

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01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Liberation Armies chief of Staff had severely trampled on and

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01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:22.760
<v Speaker 2>damaged the chairman responsibility system. The military official newspaper PLA

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<v Speaker 2>Daily said in an editorial published on Sunday. Under the

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01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Chinese Constitution, the leader of the State and the Chinese

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01:55:29.159 --> 01:55:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Communist Party chairs the CMC, and his has supreme decision

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01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:38.760
<v Speaker 2>making power over the military. This quote unquote chairman responsibility

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01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:42.880
<v Speaker 2>system is designed to secure the party's absolute control over

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01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the armed forces. The PLA Mouthpieces editorial said that the

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01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:50.319
<v Speaker 2>two generals had seriously abetted political and corruption problems that

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01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:53.800
<v Speaker 2>affect the Communist Party's absolute leadership over the military and

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01:55:53.920 --> 01:55:57.119
<v Speaker 2>endanger the foundation of the party's rule. They straight up

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01:55:57.159 --> 01:56:00.279
<v Speaker 2>called alj The comments highlight the crucial importance of the

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<v Speaker 2>PLA Forji in his expected quest for a fourth term,

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01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>which the party would have to confirm at its next congress,

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01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:09.800
<v Speaker 2>due in twenty twenty seven. Since the party sees power

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01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:12.359
<v Speaker 2>through the Civil War and most of its founders fought

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01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:15.840
<v Speaker 2>in those battles, it regards control over the armed forces

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<v Speaker 2>as indispensable. The military is the only organization in China

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<v Speaker 2>that has a history of defying party leaders, said Dennis Wilder,

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01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:25.520
<v Speaker 2>an expert on the Chinese military and former head of

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01:56:25.600 --> 01:56:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Chinese Analysis at the CIA, citing criticism of Mao Zedong

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01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:35.319
<v Speaker 2>policies by then Defense Minister Paying De Howie, I don't know.

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01:56:35.359 --> 01:56:38.399
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen fifty nine and in nineteen seventy one alleged

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<v Speaker 2>coup attempt against Mao by top general Lymbiao, Wilder said

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01:56:42.279 --> 01:56:44.399
<v Speaker 2>that after Zang had won a fight.

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01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:46.479
<v Speaker 3>With he We Dong. I don't know how to pronounce

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01:56:46.479 --> 01:56:47.319
<v Speaker 3>his names. I'm sorry.

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01:56:47.600 --> 01:56:49.560
<v Speaker 2>The second vice CMC chair and a member of the

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01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:53.640
<v Speaker 2>rival faction who was purged last year. Ji probably feared

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01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that Zang, the dude who's in trouble now, was all

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01:56:56.680 --> 01:56:59.439
<v Speaker 2>powerful in the military. Presuming that Ji wants a fourth

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01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:01.680
<v Speaker 2>term in office, he would have to fear that Zhang

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01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:04.720
<v Speaker 2>would lead an effort within the party to oust him.

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01:57:05.399 --> 01:57:09.600
<v Speaker 2>So essentially, this guy started talking shit. Now, he was

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01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:12.920
<v Speaker 2>starting to sow the seeds of doubt. And he's gone.

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01:57:12.960 --> 01:57:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Now he's gone.

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01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:15.479
<v Speaker 3>Where is he?

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01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:17.640
<v Speaker 2>What happened to him? It's a great question. I'm sure

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01:57:17.640 --> 01:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>that the uh yeah, probably probably yeah. So I think

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01:57:21.880 --> 01:57:24.960
<v Speaker 2>it's all very strategic. I think it all ties in

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01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:28.479
<v Speaker 2>on the geopolitical side of things when you look at Iran,

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01:57:29.199 --> 01:57:33.279
<v Speaker 2>China and Russia and how these three are always in

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01:57:33.319 --> 01:57:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the mix of some wild shit that's going on right now.

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01:57:36.079 --> 01:57:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Cut to all of them hade America to one degree

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01:57:38.840 --> 01:57:44.520
<v Speaker 2>or another. Okay, and China just lost their information feedback

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01:57:45.079 --> 01:57:48.920
<v Speaker 2>as far as TikTok is concerned. But now a group

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01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:53.560
<v Speaker 2>from the United Arab Emirates has bought this in so

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01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:56.920
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about this company here. So this is MGX,

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01:57:57.319 --> 01:58:01.079
<v Speaker 2>their AI group out of Abu dh This is their

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01:58:01.119 --> 01:58:05.560
<v Speaker 2>board of directors. His Highness chik to noun ben Zaid

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01:58:05.680 --> 01:58:07.960
<v Speaker 2>al Nayan, that's the dude that we just saw in

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01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the picture next to our Secretary of State. Now we

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01:58:10.560 --> 01:58:14.399
<v Speaker 2>go down the list. Everybody except for two dudes is

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01:58:14.600 --> 01:58:16.399
<v Speaker 2>of the royal family and you could tell that by

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01:58:16.439 --> 01:58:19.319
<v Speaker 2>the black bands they have on their head. This dude,

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01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:24.600
<v Speaker 2>which I think is very interesting, a Chinese guy. Member

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01:58:24.640 --> 01:58:27.840
<v Speaker 2>of the MGX press really weird. Oh yes, oh yes,

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01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:31.119
<v Speaker 2>so Pang Zhao Member of the MGX Board of Directors,

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01:58:31.239 --> 01:58:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Chairman of the MGX Board Executive Committee, Chairman of the

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01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:39.960
<v Speaker 2>MGX Nomination and Remuneration Committee, and member of the MGX

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01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Audit and Risk Committee. He is a global technology and

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01:58:43.399 --> 01:58:45.880
<v Speaker 2>business leader with a track record for building breakthrough products,

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01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:50.039
<v Speaker 2>delivering customer service, and achieving commercial results. As Group CEO

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01:58:50.319 --> 01:58:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of Abu Dhabi, based G four to two. Paying is

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01:58:53.279 --> 01:58:56.640
<v Speaker 2>responsible for crafting the group's business and product strategies and

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01:58:56.680 --> 01:59:00.720
<v Speaker 2>overseeing the operation operating companies across Numero ris and dust

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01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:04.319
<v Speaker 2>industry verticals which is a weird sentence, but okay, including

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01:59:04.399 --> 01:59:10.640
<v Speaker 2>smart city, healthcare, energy, finance, and education. This dude weird.

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01:59:11.399 --> 01:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>This dude is in charge of a company whose big

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01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:17.439
<v Speaker 2>push number one is smart cities.

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<v Speaker 5>I told you I brought them up for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, I'm raven. You're right as always here. The

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<v Speaker 2>group has developed world class solutions in AI, big data, analytics,

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<v Speaker 2>mobile technology, and cloud computing, and its offering or its

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01:59:33.640 --> 01:59:35.960
<v Speaker 2>offerings are delivered to a wide range of commercial and

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<v Speaker 2>government clients.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, so since.

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<v Speaker 2>Previously a senior executive vice president, chief technology officer, and

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<v Speaker 2>chief information technology officer excuse me of micro strategy, Paying

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<v Speaker 2>spent a decade in the enterprise software industry, responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>managing more than a one thousand engineers. Paying led the

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<v Speaker 2>research and developed development of the company's entire product portfolio,

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<v Speaker 2>including business intelligence, secure identity, and mobile commerce. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>of the entire board of directors of this MGX group,

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<v Speaker 2>we got that guy, and then this other dude, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Edelman. Okay, let's read a little bit about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of this group, there's two that stand out. The

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<v Speaker 2>one from China clearly stands out. And then when you're

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<v Speaker 2>reading about the smart cities and all of these things, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's that's not good. But okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So Martin Edelman member of the MGX Board of Directors

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<v Speaker 2>and member of the Nomination and Remuneration Committee. Martin Edelman

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<v Speaker 2>has more than fifty years of legal experience in complex

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<v Speaker 2>international transactions.

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<v Speaker 3>The dude's a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been an advisor to business, corporate and national leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as participated in designing and negotiating resolutions of

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<v Speaker 2>cross border disputes of various kinds. He was an advisor

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<v Speaker 2>to Mabadala investment Company, Redbird, I am I and Fortune

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<v Speaker 2>and it's general counsel of the G four to two,

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<v Speaker 2>the same group that your boy Pang was a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>So while Pang is about the computer things and the

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<v Speaker 2>engineering things, this guy is about the legal things when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to smart cities, healthcare, AI, governance and these

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<v Speaker 2>types of things.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's wild, so shocked, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is on the board of aldar Riot's a

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<v Speaker 2>city Football Group, Equity Commonwealth, Jackie Robinson Foundation, Fallen Heroes Fund,

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02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:32.520
<v Speaker 2>and New York City Police Foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>Hm hmm, so just little things, little things.

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<v Speaker 5>Just has his hand in a couple of things, one

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<v Speaker 5>or two.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a few right now.

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<v Speaker 2>This boy here, David Scott, he was brought up a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times and I thought, actually, real quick, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see if there was any more of these

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<v Speaker 2>names that we should look into here. No, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>So let's read a little bit about your boy, David Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>So he isn't a big one, he does. Lord David

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<v Speaker 2>Scott is an expert in strategy formulation and implementation with

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<v Speaker 2>an extensive track record of successful engagements involving multi billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar projects and ventures in both the public and private sectors.

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<v Speaker 2>As Chief of the Strategy Function of NGX, he worked

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<v Speaker 2>with the funds leadership and investment professionals to identify priority

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02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:22.680
<v Speaker 2>target themes and sectors for capital allocation, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the management of portfolio risk. As the Chief of the

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<v Speaker 2>Safety Function, he oversees the development of safety related criteria

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<v Speaker 2>to support the fund's diligence of investment opportunities. Recognizing the

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<v Speaker 2>important safety and socioeconomic consequences of emerging AI technologies and applications.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a weird all right, sure sure.

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<v Speaker 2>In prior roles, David had served as Executive Director for

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<v Speaker 2>Economic and Energy Affairs at Abu Dhabi's Executive Affairs Authority.

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<v Speaker 3>So this dude was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of one of these big committees that talks about

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<v Speaker 2>energy and economic affairs. Sure, all right, as a regional

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<v Speaker 2>VP at Occidental Petroleum Corporation. Hey, I know Occidental, as

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<v Speaker 2>the National Security Council's Direct Director for Arabian Peninsula and

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<v Speaker 2>North African Affairs at the White House. He is also

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<v Speaker 2>a former US Foreign Service officer and a veteran of

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<v Speaker 2>the Army.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Among other roles, David also serves as the managing director

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<v Speaker 2>of the Mohammed ben Zaid Water Initiative and as a

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<v Speaker 2>board member of the AI Infrastructure Partnership AIP, the Emirates

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<v Speaker 2>Nuclear Energy Corporation, and Terror Power. He also serves on

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<v Speaker 2>the advisory board of Yale University's Jackson School of Global Affairs. Wow,

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02:03:48.479 --> 02:03:51.439
<v Speaker 2>he is a graduate everywhere everywhere. He's a graduate of

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<v Speaker 2>Brigham Young University. So maybe he's a Mountain Jew.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Defense Language Institute, as well as the US

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<v Speaker 2>Army's Cryptala and Electronic Warfare School and Non Commissioned Officers Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>So your boy was he was an Army soldier, right,

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02:04:09.319 --> 02:04:13.359
<v Speaker 2>it seems like enlisted at least Noncommissioned Officer Academy. But

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<v Speaker 2>so that's his background, and that is gonna be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the key players in TikTok.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it's interesting that he works for them.

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02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, nothing.

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02:04:26.199 --> 02:04:26.720
<v Speaker 3>To worry about.

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02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:29.319
<v Speaker 5>Nothing, nothing see here, keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, well, this article is a little dated, actually,

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02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:35.359
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be a little something

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<v Speaker 2>more that we could look into. But anyway, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of the short and dirty of all of

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02:04:41.880 --> 02:04:43.560
<v Speaker 2>the things that are going on. As far as this

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02:04:43.640 --> 02:04:46.199
<v Speaker 2>TikTok buy out merger, whatever the hell you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call it, I don't see it being intrinsically good for

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02:04:49.479 --> 02:04:53.279
<v Speaker 2>the American people. I do see it as better than

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02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:56.640
<v Speaker 2>CCP owning all of it. But it's not like the

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<v Speaker 2>CCP's out of it either, No, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Just have less.

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<v Speaker 4>They're still there now. It's just kind of shifted hands.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's one of those things though. They're all embedded

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<v Speaker 4>with each other at this point. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 4>there's I think that it's not even it's just a game,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a big show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that they're all together on stuff and that

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<v Speaker 4>some of this might be a pissing contest between certain people.

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<v Speaker 5>But also I find it interesting though.

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<v Speaker 4>That that an American veteran would work for that company,

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<v Speaker 4>and that you know, just how everything's tied together with

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<v Speaker 4>each company, and then Dell could potentially be owning like

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02:05:36.199 --> 02:05:39.159
<v Speaker 4>thirty percent of it. But I think it's all just

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02:05:39.279 --> 02:05:42.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, a big smoke smoke show and just everything

2422
02:05:42.760 --> 02:05:46.319
<v Speaker 4>just look over here, look over there, redirecting people and

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02:05:46.399 --> 02:05:47.319
<v Speaker 4>constant chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>So I fully agree, and honestly, even with the army

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<v Speaker 2>that that's working with Abu Dhabi's royal family in some

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02:05:53.760 --> 02:05:57.960
<v Speaker 2>very upper echelon ways, I get it. I personally know

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<v Speaker 2>people that used to work in the intel field that now,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, they if you can get in good

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<v Speaker 2>with one of these rich Arab countries and like become

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<v Speaker 2>one of their guys, sh you can recrite your own ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, money is the root of all evil. Well,

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02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:15.560
<v Speaker 2>the love of money is the root of all evil,

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02:06:15.560 --> 02:06:17.159
<v Speaker 2>and hey, if the price is right, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, especially shit in the army or the military

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<v Speaker 2>in general. Look, we know, look, we're all just whoores

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02:06:22.319 --> 02:06:24.159
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, well know, just about

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02:06:24.159 --> 02:06:26.800
<v Speaker 2>anything if the money's right, right, I mean, at least

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02:06:26.800 --> 02:06:29.199
<v Speaker 2>the vast majority of us, I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think I could personally work for specific

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02:06:33.399 --> 02:06:36.439
<v Speaker 4>nations and how they treat women and children.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure.

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02:06:37.760 --> 02:06:40.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's no way. There's no amount of money.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that I could accept for specific groups

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02:06:44.399 --> 02:06:46.359
<v Speaker 4>of individuals and how they treat people.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, the UAE is a lot more liberal, a

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02:06:49.640 --> 02:06:51.960
<v Speaker 2>lot more progressive than a lot of their Muslim counterparts,

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02:06:52.000 --> 02:06:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Like you can drink in Abu Dhabi, are you.

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02:06:55.399 --> 02:06:56.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're not.

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02:06:56.520 --> 02:06:59.079
<v Speaker 8>They're not as bad, I'll say that, but they still

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02:06:59.079 --> 02:07:04.560
<v Speaker 8>have that uh, that surface, that layer if you will, that, Yeah,

2452
02:07:04.640 --> 02:07:08.680
<v Speaker 8>the human rights violations and yeah, the treatment of women.

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02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:13.119
<v Speaker 2>And listen, listen, have you seen their tech industry?

2454
02:07:13.359 --> 02:07:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Have you looked at their prices?

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02:07:15.079 --> 02:07:15.920
<v Speaker 5>It's one of those.

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02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Things, is like, you know, you got to draw a

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<v Speaker 4>line somewhere, I guess, and that would be my line

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02:07:22.399 --> 02:07:24.319
<v Speaker 4>in the sand for me personally, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, I agree, But yeah, good cult members.

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<v Speaker 2>We wanted to kind of give a little background to

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<v Speaker 2>the whole TikTok buyout situation. We didn't lose the CCP,

2462
02:07:36.439 --> 02:07:39.479
<v Speaker 2>they just got a lesser portion of it. And now

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02:07:39.720 --> 02:07:43.439
<v Speaker 2>we have oracle that is going to be reformulating and retooling.

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02:07:42.920 --> 02:07:45.840
<v Speaker 3>All the algorithms to push forward whatever they want you

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<v Speaker 3>to see.

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02:07:46.600 --> 02:07:50.399
<v Speaker 2>Whatever the AI governance propaganda wants you to see now

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02:07:50.479 --> 02:07:53.359
<v Speaker 2>more than ever before, is just being done by our

2468
02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:56.159
<v Speaker 2>government rather than their government. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call that the smallest of lower case ws, than fine,

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02:08:00.079 --> 02:08:04.279
<v Speaker 2>get it. I see it more like we just traded

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02:08:04.279 --> 02:08:08.960
<v Speaker 2>one slave master for another. And this slave master might

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<v Speaker 2>speak the same language as us, but that's about the

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02:08:11.319 --> 02:08:13.079
<v Speaker 2>only connection I can find that's different.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So, speaking of TikTok, though, if you guys could

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02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:23.159
<v Speaker 4>go to our TikTok and please like, share, and comment

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02:08:23.319 --> 02:08:26.359
<v Speaker 4>to try to trick the algorithm back into letting us

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02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:29.359
<v Speaker 4>off of the shadow band, yeah, and to hopefully push

2478
02:08:29.479 --> 02:08:33.079
<v Speaker 4>the page more. We were trying to gain some momentum

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02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:36.319
<v Speaker 4>on TikTok just you know, be able to expand the

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02:08:36.399 --> 02:08:38.720
<v Speaker 4>listener biase and reach more people. And be able to

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02:08:38.720 --> 02:08:41.560
<v Speaker 4>find more content creators that are in this space is

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02:08:42.039 --> 02:08:44.479
<v Speaker 4>you know, with us and I was actually helping, and

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02:08:44.560 --> 02:08:47.279
<v Speaker 4>so we would like your help if you could just

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<v Speaker 4>go and least, you know, help us in any way,

2485
02:08:50.079 --> 02:08:52.920
<v Speaker 4>alike a share a comment. The comments help a lot

2486
02:08:53.000 --> 02:08:56.520
<v Speaker 4>because they actually show engagement and we can like talk

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02:08:56.560 --> 02:08:59.800
<v Speaker 4>back and stuff, and so that seems to at least

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02:09:00.159 --> 02:09:03.399
<v Speaker 4>TikTok boost the algorithm. I don't know what new TikTok

2489
02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:06.119
<v Speaker 4>is going to look like, but just if you could,

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02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:06.720
<v Speaker 4>that'd be great.

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02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:09.279
<v Speaker 3>The more engagement it gets across the board, the better

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02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:11.439
<v Speaker 3>for everybody. I think. Anyway, I think that's still going

2493
02:09:11.520 --> 02:09:13.079
<v Speaker 3>to be the way the algorithm functions.

2494
02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:16.640
<v Speaker 4>So I have no idea right now, considering I've been

2495
02:09:16.680 --> 02:09:19.840
<v Speaker 4>looking at lots of really big content creators and they're

2496
02:09:19.880 --> 02:09:23.640
<v Speaker 4>all experiencing the same thing, which is really interesting because

2497
02:09:23.680 --> 02:09:26.880
<v Speaker 4>some of them don't have any political stuff whatsoever and

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02:09:26.920 --> 02:09:30.560
<v Speaker 4>they're being shadow band and it's just it looks like

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02:09:30.600 --> 02:09:35.119
<v Speaker 4>it's a blanket term right now. So just I don't know,

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02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:37.199
<v Speaker 4>help out the people that you want to see more

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02:09:37.239 --> 02:09:39.399
<v Speaker 4>of and hopefully we can figure this out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm not really tore up about TikTok because

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02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:47.119
<v Speaker 4>I've never cared about social media's but because this is

2504
02:09:47.439 --> 02:09:50.720
<v Speaker 4>our job and we do want to reach more people,

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02:09:51.079 --> 02:09:53.159
<v Speaker 4>and that's kind of how I found a Rise of

2506
02:09:53.199 --> 02:09:56.079
<v Speaker 4>Liberty podcast with TikTok, and I've been trying to find

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02:09:56.159 --> 02:10:00.600
<v Speaker 4>other content creators. So that's, on one hand, really good thing.

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02:10:00.760 --> 02:10:05.079
<v Speaker 4>But I definitely don't really like care that much about

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok as my personal page. I'll it's like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But now I'm with you. I just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more the same, right, And like you said, I

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02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:19.319
<v Speaker 2>think this is going to snowball into a freedom of

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02:10:19.359 --> 02:10:20.199
<v Speaker 2>speech situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It starts small, you know, it starts small. It used

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<v Speaker 3>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate speech was the big thing, right, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>said anything of a certain political ideology, somebody would flag

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<v Speaker 2>it as hate speech, and that that was the way

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about to go up a notch.

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<v Speaker 5>I honest, information was the big one. Hate speech.

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<v Speaker 4>Now a lot of people's, including ours, seem to be

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<v Speaker 4>under review.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't even know what that means.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I tried to find new I try to find

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<v Speaker 4>the guidelines, and they haven't changed the guidelines technically, so

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<v Speaker 4>depending but that means that we have to censor what

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<v Speaker 4>we say, we have to censor what you write, so

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<v Speaker 4>you have to censor what you tag yourself in. And

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<v Speaker 4>it already has been kind of a game like that,

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<v Speaker 4>but now I think it's just gonna pick up more

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<v Speaker 4>and then we're gonna end up like the UK, where

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<v Speaker 4>we have to watch what we say and how we

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<v Speaker 4>say it, and we can't say certain things because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we might end up with cops at our door trying

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<v Speaker 4>to arrest us. Yeah, and you know, it's just one

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02:11:24.279 --> 02:11:26.920
<v Speaker 4>little thing at a time, and that's how they get you,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, you're too busy focused on everything else

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<v Speaker 4>that's happening, and you're not caring about your freedoms that

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<v Speaker 4>are being taken away.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. One hundred percent. And again, everybody, there

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<v Speaker 2>are certain people that are super fucking stoked about this

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, Trump's in charge right now, and he'll

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<v Speaker 2>push the free speech and this, this and this and Okay, fine, fine,

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02:11:50.680 --> 02:11:53.800
<v Speaker 2>let's say that you are a die hard Trumper and

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02:11:54.319 --> 02:11:57.800
<v Speaker 2>everything this guy does is literally as if God himself

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<v Speaker 2>said it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't agree with that, but fine, have your opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand that the next administration or the one after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever way this goes, the pendulum swings very hard both ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, the pendulum is on this side of the conversation.

2553
02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:20.760
<v Speaker 2>When that swings back, not if, but when that swings back,

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02:12:21.359 --> 02:12:25.119
<v Speaker 2>understand that now that administration will have the tools and

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02:12:25.159 --> 02:12:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the resources to use this app against its own people.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's how this goes. The freedom of speech thing

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02:12:32.119 --> 02:12:35.640
<v Speaker 2>sounds great whenever it's your or or excuse me, the

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02:12:35.720 --> 02:12:38.479
<v Speaker 2>reduction of free speech, right if you're starting to cut

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02:12:38.520 --> 02:12:40.439
<v Speaker 2>out certain people who are saying things that you don't

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02:12:40.439 --> 02:12:44.279
<v Speaker 2>agree with, that sounds great whenever it's in favor of you,

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02:12:44.960 --> 02:12:48.319
<v Speaker 2>until four to eight to twenty years down the road

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02:12:48.359 --> 02:12:51.800
<v Speaker 2>when it's going back at you, and now that that's

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<v Speaker 2>not so cool anymore. And this is it's all ties in, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>It all ties in anyway. Yep, thought that this be

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<v Speaker 2>a fun episode and if nothing else, very informative episode

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02:13:03.680 --> 02:13:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and good cult members. I'm sure some people are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have some response to it. They're gonna disagree with some

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02:13:08.640 --> 02:13:10.920
<v Speaker 2>of the things that we're said, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to hear from you. We want to.

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02:13:12.399 --> 02:13:15.119
<v Speaker 2>See what you got to say on this topic before

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<v Speaker 2>I give all that shameless plug. I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>mention that you should go and check us out Patreon

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, slash Cult to Conspiracy Podcast. Once again, it's

2574
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<v Speaker 2>the only place to get these shows absolutely, but also

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<v Speaker 2>that's only for the five dollars tier. If you go

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<v Speaker 2>up to that ten dollars Third Eye All the Way

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<v Speaker 2>Open Toier, you'll get to join us every Tuesday night,

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<v Speaker 2>nine pm Centy for our Cult Member Live event. It's

2579
02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:37.840
<v Speaker 2>always a blast, it's always unhinged, and we love our

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02:13:37.880 --> 02:13:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday night lives. But also when you go to that

2581
02:13:40.199 --> 02:13:42.479
<v Speaker 2>Third Eye All the Way Open tier, Raven Lee has

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<v Speaker 2>a side project that she's working on for people of

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02:13:44.680 --> 02:13:45.039
<v Speaker 2>that tier.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell them about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Raven, we have a book club that's starting on February first.

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<v Speaker 4>We are currently going to start reading How Jesus Became God.

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<v Speaker 5>And what we're going to do.

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02:13:54.560 --> 02:13:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Is is every week we're going to because this book

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02:13:57.000 --> 02:13:58.840
<v Speaker 4>has a certain amount of chapters, we're going to do

2590
02:13:58.880 --> 02:13:59.800
<v Speaker 4>two chapters a week.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to break it down on every Sunday at

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<v Speaker 5>nine pm. We're going to just talk about it. We're

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<v Speaker 5>going to talk about what we think and feel and

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<v Speaker 5>everything else.

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02:14:06.720 --> 02:14:09.439
<v Speaker 4>This is an interesting book to start with, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it's only going to be available for the Third Eye

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02:14:12.680 --> 02:14:15.960
<v Speaker 4>and the Maniac t here, and we're just gonna be

2598
02:14:16.560 --> 02:14:18.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of rolling deep and whatever is said is going

2599
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<v Speaker 4>to be stick. It's going to be on the Patreon.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're not going to release this on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cult absolutely, and that's only one book. Every month, they're

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02:14:27.319 --> 02:14:29.279
<v Speaker 2>going to be pulling a new book and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to just keep it going. They took suggestions at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the year for people who wanted to put

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<v Speaker 2>certain books.

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<v Speaker 3>There's the bucket on screen right now. Is the glorious buckett.

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<v Speaker 4>You have the We have the buckets of like fifty

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<v Speaker 4>or so different ones. We've had a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>want to add more to it. Right now, we're just

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<v Speaker 4>gonna stick with the fifty that we got so that

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<v Speaker 4>way we can pull from it every month.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>A good time, absolutely, And like Raven Lee said, there

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<v Speaker 2>is also the Maniac here for anybody who would like

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<v Speaker 2>to go above and beyond. When you go to that

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<v Speaker 2>Maniac Here, you will get exclusive merchandise that is not

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<v Speaker 2>available anywhere else mailed to your door as a massive

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for supporting us in that way, So go

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<v Speaker 2>check it out on patreon dot com slash Cult Conspiracy Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>The link is down in the show notes below, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Another way to support the show, Good cult members, and

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<v Speaker 2>let us know what you think about this conversation. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about the TikTok buyout? Do you think

2624
02:15:18.039 --> 02:15:20.159
<v Speaker 2>this is more power to the government. Do you think

2625
02:15:20.159 --> 02:15:22.479
<v Speaker 2>it's less power to the CCP. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>China absolutely lost their information loop? Do you think it

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't matter because bite Dance still has people on

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<v Speaker 2>all sides of this conversation. When the fuck did Dell

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<v Speaker 2>come into the conversation? We want to hear from you,

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<v Speaker 2>good cult members. Let us know the best place would

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<v Speaker 3>If we're here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>The more activity the algorithm sees across all of our

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<v Speaker 2>listening platforms, the more we get promoted to more potential listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Who could that become potential cult members, Like there's Steve Fie.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, Why are you gonna go check out

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<v Speaker 2>minimistics of Jonathan's other show and getting the same love

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<v Speaker 2>of respect over there with the five star viewsing the

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for everybody's already gone and done so. With

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<v Speaker 2>all of this being said, this was another beautiful episode

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