Speaker 1: Oh bed of that Sardre, Hello and welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: I said, But also the reason why I'm pushing that
Speaker 2: as of this moment because you're probably gonna get hit
Speaker 2: with ads and commercials and all the things.
Speaker 3: And uh, this one's gonna be a deep one.
Speaker 2: And this might even get us band off of certain places,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because as of time of recording,
Speaker 2: we just did a little bit of a TikTok live
Speaker 2: and people who listen to the show know how much
Speaker 2: I love tic tac or whatever the fuck it's called
Speaker 2: y'all know how much I love that app However, we've
Speaker 2: gotten shadow band.
Speaker 3: Don't know why.
Speaker 4: Shout out to the Patreon members though for coming and
Speaker 4: Clutch and they came over and checked it out, and
Speaker 4: I posted on there and they came over and was
Speaker 4: trying to help us out.
Speaker 5: And then they came, all.
Speaker 4: Of them and came and Clutch coming on the live
Speaker 4: to try to help us get unshadowed band. But my
Speaker 4: personal ones banned and are and the cult conspiracy because
Speaker 4: I was thinking, maybe, you know, let me post on
Speaker 4: because I had posted quite a few of them, and
Speaker 4: I noticed about two days ago we stopped getting views,
Speaker 4: and so I said, well, let me just post one
Speaker 4: on mine to see what happens. I should not have
Speaker 4: done that, because apparently I fucked myself just as much so, But.
Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't post anything that was objectively offensive, right,
Speaker 2: And even if.
Speaker 4: Honestly I was pumped about the two of them, they
Speaker 4: were just like funny meme clips right shorts over a
Speaker 4: single image of Trump sending troops into Iran and another
Speaker 4: one about the Pyramids and the old Boys being right
Speaker 4: about the Pyramids of like having shit underneath it, so Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: All of that kind of ties in to not only
Speaker 2: what we're gonna be talking about in this episode, but
Speaker 2: I feel like the timing of everything is very, very,
Speaker 2: very strategic.
Speaker 3: So we just got shadow band on TikTok.
Speaker 2: Hopefully over the next couple of days, that's gonna go
Speaker 2: away and we're going to go back into the realm
Speaker 2: of free speech. Right now, why is this, you might
Speaker 2: be asking, Well, unless you're living under a rock, you
Speaker 2: probably have heard that Oracle has bought TikTok, or at
Speaker 2: least the American subsidiary of it. Now, there's some pros
Speaker 2: to this, there's some cons to this. A pro the
Speaker 2: Chinese have lost their data loop, their information loop to
Speaker 2: the United States, and that's a very good thing. And
Speaker 2: I know there's gonna be tons of people it's not
Speaker 2: really being used as spy where I'm sorry, Literally, all
Speaker 2: evidence to the contrary, TikTok was being used one hundred
Speaker 2: percent as a propaganda mechanism and as a way to
Speaker 2: have the CCP basically have an integral part into your
Speaker 2: daily life, into your cell phone. That's not it's not
Speaker 2: a theory, that's a guarantee. Now, I'm not super jazzed
Speaker 2: that Oracle has now bought it out, because Oracle would
Speaker 2: be soon to be your AI god, your AI daddy,
Speaker 2: if you will. They're the ones that pretty much have
Speaker 2: the final filtering say so on what does and does
Speaker 2: not make it through onto anything Internet related in the
Speaker 2: United States. What's making your algorithm, Oracle, why is it
Speaker 2: whenever you talk about cat food over and over again
Speaker 2: and you don't even own a cat, somehow you'll start
Speaker 2: seeing commercials for cat food on your YouTube or your
Speaker 2: Facebook or whatever.
Speaker 3: Oracle, that's all this is.
Speaker 2: It's an AI algorithm database, and that's all being done
Speaker 2: very very very strategically. Now, Oracle buying TikTok is a
Speaker 2: bit of a misnomer because, yes, while they did buy it,
Speaker 2: there was actually three parts. There's a three part tryune
Speaker 2: to who just bought the American version of TikTok, and
Speaker 2: I guarantee you're not gonna be able to guess the
Speaker 2: other two. If you had to take a shot out
Speaker 2: of it, I will say that, I will say this,
Speaker 2: let's just skip names. I'll give you hints. One of
Speaker 2: them is from a country, and one of them is
Speaker 2: from a computer company.
Speaker 4: Ah, I feel like I know I know the answer
Speaker 4: to one of I know one of them, but I'm
Speaker 4: trying to remember what the hell the name. I glanced
Speaker 4: at it. I no oracle, and I noticed, like are
Speaker 4: a three split? They like share fifteen percent each yep
Speaker 4: of it, And I just can't, for the life of
Speaker 4: me picture the name.
Speaker 5: Who is it? Again? I can't remember?
Speaker 3: So you ever had a Dell computer?
Speaker 5: Del Man, that's an old one.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have thought it, but old. I think his
Speaker 2: name is Michael Dell. I got an article pulled up
Speaker 2: on him here. He bought one portion of it, and
Speaker 2: then Abu Dhabi what Yeah.
Speaker 6: Okay, the fucking Arabs just bought a chunk of American TikTok.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not surprised, but my point is you
Speaker 6: would have thought.
Speaker 2: You would have thought that perhaps Moussad would have bought it, right,
Speaker 2: Maybe a little Nette Yahoo, maybe a little bit of
Speaker 2: the Jews would have come in and boughts. But it's
Speaker 2: not at all. The Muslims are making their way in.
Speaker 2: And again, I know so many people are very angry
Speaker 2: of me for having this take. I acknowledge that Israel
Speaker 2: was absolutely puppeteering our government for decades, not denying now whatsoever.
Speaker 3: What I am saying is.
Speaker 2: That Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have moved in
Speaker 2: and they are buying up swaths of the American propaganda
Speaker 2: machine and swaths of our government hand over fist right now.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that Israel does not still have their play.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that apak is not a thing. I
Speaker 2: see it. I'm with you. What I'm saying is that
Speaker 2: there's a changing of the guard happening right before our
Speaker 2: very eyes, and people are still pissed off at Israel
Speaker 2: for shit that went down twenty years ago, rather than
Speaker 2: acknowledging what's going on right now. I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: we need to negate the ship from twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: I'm saying we need to see the writing on the
Speaker 2: walls and realize who's about to be the overlords.
Speaker 4: But anyway, yeah, I mean, but if you look at
Speaker 4: the whole push to convert the world into, you know,
Speaker 4: a Muslim state, it's not really a shock to me
Speaker 4: that they would be buying up large amounts of any
Speaker 4: kind of social media.
Speaker 2: Yes, now, I will say of these countries, right, Qatar
Speaker 2: and UAE, which Abu Dhabi, that's UAE United Arab Emirates.
Speaker 2: They're a lot more how could I put this without
Speaker 2: trying to sound offensive, They're a lot more uh, progressive
Speaker 2: and some might even say liberal and moderns as compared
Speaker 2: to a lot of their other Islamic.
Speaker 3: Counterparts, which is fine. It's fair.
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, so many things are still going down over there,
Speaker 2: they like the human rights atrocities are still happening, like
Speaker 2: people still getting their hands cut off for stealing people.
Speaker 2: Like the worst things about the Islamic world that people
Speaker 2: want to say is like a human's rights violations and
Speaker 2: all this stuff that's still going down in Saudi Arabia
Speaker 2: or Saudi whatever. But because they give us really good
Speaker 2: deals on oils and because they're a homie, we just
Speaker 2: gonna turn a blind eye to it. Right There was
Speaker 2: that big uh there was a big comedy I don't
Speaker 2: want to say, a not a conference. What's the word,
Speaker 2: what's the like when a bunch of bands come to
Speaker 2: a city, Like, what's a festival?
Speaker 3: There's a big festival there.
Speaker 5: It was like, I'm like, I don't know what you're
Speaker 5: talking about. Right now.
Speaker 2: There was a big comedy festival that just went down
Speaker 2: in Saudi Arabia and they were throwing astronomical numbers out
Speaker 2: to get some of the headlines and all of these things,
Speaker 2: and like it was nothing to have a guy be like, yo,
Speaker 2: this this the royal family was offering me three hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to go do one hour of stand up
Speaker 2: and stuff like this. And you had a lot of comedians,
Speaker 2: even the uber liberal types who have been up and
Speaker 2: down shitting on the America's connection to these these animals.
Speaker 3: And bah bah bah blah blah blah bah.
Speaker 2: They took the bag and they curtailed their comedy for that,
Speaker 2: and it was they completely hord themselves out. And for
Speaker 2: the record, don't think that Jacob's over here judging nobody
Speaker 2: on how they get their bag.
Speaker 3: You do you baboo. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But you had a few comedians that was like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not taking it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: One of them was a Shane Gillis, who I'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan of, and he straight up was like no, like,
Speaker 2: you're the dude that gave us nine to eleven, Like
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not performing comedy for you.
Speaker 3: And everybody's like wait what No, Sama bin Laden.
Speaker 2: It's like every single dude that was on the plane
Speaker 2: that hit the twin towers were Saudi Arabian. So like,
Speaker 2: miss me with going to Saudi Arabia and and doing
Speaker 2: a performance, I don't care how much the money is, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3: But that's my point.
Speaker 2: They are trying right now to change their image, to
Speaker 2: soften their image.
Speaker 3: It's not going well.
Speaker 2: But I guess they're going off of the assumption that
Speaker 2: if you throw enough money at a problem, people will forget.
Speaker 5: And maybe I mean and a lot of people do that, so.
Speaker 3: Maybe you can see it.
Speaker 2: So now cut to the situation with TikTok. Oracle owns
Speaker 2: the lion's share of it. Now, Oracle being the same
Speaker 2: people that are watching us. That's big brother, Like no shit,
Speaker 2: that is big brother Eagle Eye one hundred percent. But
Speaker 2: on top of that, now we have Dell, the computer
Speaker 2: company that most would say fell off into obscurity, but
Speaker 2: they're still there somewhere, and Abu Dhabi, the UAES company
Speaker 2: mg X, which you're gonna talk about more in detail here,
Speaker 2: but I gotta tell you, I am relieved that China
Speaker 2: is no longer using TikTok to get the information loop
Speaker 2: on Americans. I think that's great. I'm also, at the
Speaker 2: same time not happy that Oracle has now gotten it.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna talk about it all in specific here.
Speaker 2: China's got a lot going on right now. They just
Speaker 2: had a whole ass coup attempt from one of G's
Speaker 2: top general Tell me that I pulled up. We'll talk
Speaker 2: about it. It's and again, this is why I think
Speaker 2: the timing of it is so so strange, so particularly strange.
Speaker 2: Not to mention you. Look at what's going on with
Speaker 2: Iran right now. Okay, they have confirmed thirty thousand people
Speaker 2: were murdered in two days and over one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty thousand were injured. Just to give everybody a comparison
Speaker 2: to this, and I know some people are gonna say, well,
Speaker 2: the Holocaust never happened. You shut up just two seconds,
Speaker 2: just hear me out. The best comparison that we can
Speaker 2: find is when Nazi troops went into Ukraine and slaughtered
Speaker 2: Jews in villages, they also achieved thirty thousand dead in
Speaker 2: two days. That's not a number that people are able
Speaker 2: to really wrap their heads around. Iran just murdered thirty
Speaker 2: thousand of their own citizens in two days and injured
Speaker 2: over one hundred thousand more. Right, this is now people, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a fuck ton right, and this is now being
Speaker 2: confirmed by multiple international groups.
Speaker 3: Sit in some sort of a smear.
Speaker 2: Campaign, a propaganda campaign, all these things. Now, with that
Speaker 2: being said, Iran has not been seen too favorably by
Speaker 2: some of their key Islamic brothers, if you will, katar Ua,
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, none of them like Iran. They're super not
Speaker 2: happy with them. And there is a thought to say
Speaker 2: that America might be I'm not saying invading Iran, but
Speaker 2: attacking Iran sometime this week. I'm not saying that I
Speaker 2: even believe that or not. And again, this episode is
Speaker 2: going to drop on Friday for all the listeners. So
Speaker 2: it's very possible that by the time you hear this,
Speaker 2: that has already taken place.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I wanted to get the comparison
Speaker 4: against Rwanda. So in one hundred days of killing spree,
Speaker 4: eight hundred thousand were in two days of killing. The
Speaker 4: large portion of people that were not that got killed
Speaker 4: by their own people.
Speaker 3: What was it in two days?
Speaker 5: Oh, and I was just.
Speaker 4: Saying, like, compared to to Iran, Iran, Iran, whenever you.
Speaker 2: Said eight hundred thousand in one hundred days, Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that's eight hundred per day. No, no, no, no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: that's eight My math is horrible. But as I get
Speaker 2: a calculator, eight hundred thousand divided by was it one
Speaker 2: hundred days? Was the genocide?
Speaker 4: I thought, honestly or shorter than that, But it says
Speaker 4: one hundred days of killing.
Speaker 3: I mean, I knew it was a good eight thousand.
Speaker 2: So eight thousand a day, and that is like massive numbers.
Speaker 2: Iran killed thirty thousand in two yeah. And again I
Speaker 2: understand that people are going to look at that number
Speaker 2: and say that, oh, well, those numbers are conflated.
Speaker 3: How can we verify because we have set.
Speaker 5: Thousand, you know obviously in two days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, twice as much, almost twice as much as.
Speaker 2: What was being done in Rwanda. And again this is
Speaker 2: by satellite imagery. We can see the mass graves that
Speaker 2: are currently going down. And now that they have lifted
Speaker 2: the whole internet band, people are recording, the videos are
Speaker 2: coming out, the pictures are coming out. These are not
Speaker 2: crazy astronomical numbers that people are throwing out to pull
Speaker 2: on the world's heartstrings.
Speaker 3: This is what happened.
Speaker 2: Cut to the Ayatola just fled ran and he's now
Speaker 2: in Moscow. The guy, the top religious dude, Ayatola Kamani,
Speaker 2: probably mispronouncing his bitch ass name, and I'm good with that.
Speaker 2: He just ran to Russia because his people are that
Speaker 2: pissed off at him.
Speaker 5: Well, no shit, he just killed thirty thousand people, so uhuh.
Speaker 2: But of course it was all good because Allah probably
Speaker 2: told him it was justified.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but what I am going to say
Speaker 2: is that the Muslim countries, one of them being the
Speaker 2: UAE that just bought a chunk of TikTok super jazzed
Speaker 2: up with Iran. Now we can all kind of see
Speaker 2: that there's a clenching of power that's going on between China, Russia,
Speaker 2: and Iran.
Speaker 3: These three. Some are calling them the Axis of Evil.
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever, but I don't I feel like
Speaker 2: this TikTok by was very, very strategic, and not just
Speaker 2: the purchasing because they've been trying to do that for
Speaker 2: over a year, the timing of it, the timing of it,
Speaker 2: is rather critical.
Speaker 4: Seems really interesting. They actually I was just looking at
Speaker 4: they just confirmed it. It's even more people like even
Speaker 4: they thirty six hundred or thirty six five hundred people, excuse.
Speaker 3: Me the last report of thirty son of a bitch thirty.
Speaker 5: They just yeah, it had just confirmed like an hour ago.
Speaker 2: Oh but that was That wasn't even the worst part.
Speaker 2: They were giving people lethal injections in hospitals who came
Speaker 2: in wounded. What oh yeah, no, there's videos of this.
Speaker 2: There were people that were screaming, that had like a
Speaker 2: bullet wound to the leg. The doctor was coming around
Speaker 2: and giving them lethal injections to kill them.
Speaker 5: That's absolutely horrific.
Speaker 2: And the worst part is the Iranians were at the
Speaker 2: UN talking to them last week begging for help silence.
Speaker 2: Now that there's a pile of bodies, all they're saying
Speaker 2: is okay, thank you for the acknowledgement.
Speaker 3: Where the fuck were you last week? Though?
Speaker 5: Hm?
Speaker 3: So, anyway, Ron.
Speaker 4: Crams against humanity. He should be held by NATO accountable.
Speaker 3: He should have been a long time ago. In my opinion.
Speaker 4: The dude's a oh yeah, but he should be held
Speaker 4: like hopefully he'll get tried because of everything that's happening.
Speaker 5: Oh, I see it. Multiple applications of lethal injection.
Speaker 3: Interesting, and there's there's reports. I've seen the videos.
Speaker 2: You could hear the people screaming, and there's like there's
Speaker 2: AI dubbing at the bottom to where you could tell
Speaker 2: like what they're actually saying, like translated. These people are
Speaker 2: screaming for their lives as they're being held down and
Speaker 2: a doctor's sticking them with a needle.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's horrible that's going on.
Speaker 5: There, it said. Medical workers say the protesters were often shot.
Speaker 4: In the head or neck with the intent to kill.
Speaker 4: Many were killed by multiple bullets. Some were shot from
Speaker 4: behind while they were trying to flee among the dead,
Speaker 4: or children among the dead, or the.
Speaker 3: Old pregnant women.
Speaker 4: So then were most of the it says, women and
Speaker 4: children and the old. Most of them were young people
Speaker 4: under the age of thirty. Ye They burned school buses
Speaker 4: and transit buses. Yeah, it says that they were actively
Speaker 4: shooting people to kill them, that they were given a
Speaker 4: lethal order.
Speaker 2: Now that has not really much to do with TikTok,
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I do think it's all connected, Okay.
Speaker 4: Because it is connected too, because the sensory of information
Speaker 4: the censorship. Yeah yeah, And that way they can control
Speaker 4: the narrative too, because the one post that I did
Speaker 4: post was one was about Tucker Carlson and COVID, and
Speaker 4: the information about being censored was the first one that
Speaker 4: got us flagged.
Speaker 3: Oh don't worry, Tucker's going to come up later in
Speaker 3: this episode, but continue.
Speaker 4: So the second one was Iran, the third one was Egypt.
Speaker 4: I posted another one about Greenland, and I posted one
Speaker 4: about NATO, and none of them went through, not one
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 5: So all of them were flagged.
Speaker 4: And from what I can tell from other people I've
Speaker 4: been following, I went to the big content creators so
Speaker 4: that I follow, and it looks like the majority of
Speaker 4: them that have anything to say about ice, about Minnesota,
Speaker 4: about anything to do with politics of any type of
Speaker 4: anywhere around the globe. Anything that's happening that's other than
Speaker 4: like a dog dancing around is getting shadow band right now.
Speaker 2: And that's oh my god. The Minnesota ice thing. We're
Speaker 2: not going to spend much time on it, but I
Speaker 2: am going to say this. I will say this on it,
Speaker 2: your boy. Some some are saying that he actually was
Speaker 2: an Ice agent. That was all a stage thing and
Speaker 2: whatever because he was carrying a sig P three twenty.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know who carries sig P three twenties
Speaker 3: Ice agents? That is fucking ridiculous, the sig or P
Speaker 3: three twenty.
Speaker 2: Rather, for those that don't know, if anybody is into
Speaker 2: guns and has seen how there's these SIGs that are
Speaker 2: going off in people's holsters and like the military bought
Speaker 2: a bunch of them and they had to have a
Speaker 2: big recall because there was an airman that was shot
Speaker 2: and killed and all these things. This gun went off
Speaker 2: on its own. Cops are not allowed to carry them anymore.
Speaker 2: They're not allowed on firing ranges because they're so unreliable
Speaker 2: and they will go off. The whole guns don't kill
Speaker 2: people people to no, this one does on its own.
Speaker 2: That is the weapon that this guy had on him.
Speaker 2: And they're saying that that's what ice carries. No, it's not, No,
Speaker 2: it's not at all. So it's just it's mind blowing
Speaker 2: to me. But that whole situation with that white boy
Speaker 2: that got killed in Minnesota, I'm sure we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about it soon more in depth, because that's just that's
Speaker 2: ridiculous on But anyway, all right, moving on, So the
Speaker 2: Iranian situation, your boy ran to Moscow.
Speaker 3: China situation. There was a coup attempt just a couple.
Speaker 2: Of days ago, a couple of days before TikTok was
Speaker 2: bought by America, and TikTok was China's baby. That was
Speaker 2: a bit dances or bit I gotta look at that.
Speaker 2: I got an article pulled up talking about it, bite Dance,
Speaker 2: whatever it's called.
Speaker 3: That was their money maker.
Speaker 2: Not the entire country by any means, but that company
Speaker 2: that is owned by the CCP. What possibly do you
Speaker 2: think went down to make it seem like a really
Speaker 2: good idea for China to sell their information loop to
Speaker 2: from a country that we are currently in a Cold
Speaker 2: war with.
Speaker 3: That's mind blowing. I can't even.
Speaker 2: Imagine a world where in the Cold War with Russia
Speaker 2: and America, Russia had an intel plug to the hearts
Speaker 2: and minds of the America population and then somehow in
Speaker 2: the middle of that they sell it to America.
Speaker 5: I don't know like it.
Speaker 4: I thought it was really strange too that they would
Speaker 4: give that up, especially with all the having the spies
Speaker 4: here and them trying to acquire more Land and them
Speaker 4: doing and having that military presence here.
Speaker 5: What was it. It was like a little base or
Speaker 5: something that they had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're trying, Yeah, and they had, like you.
Speaker 5: Know, they've had all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that they would give up there. They're one
Speaker 4: thing to where it helps program the American people and
Speaker 4: they can sway and change whatever it is because they
Speaker 4: know that most.
Speaker 5: People are watching TikTok and use it.
Speaker 4: So for them to give it up, it had to
Speaker 4: be something absolutely serious.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I don't believe that we had any
Speaker 2: kind of real leverage on China for this one. However,
Speaker 2: I've been seeing some reports China's population some experts are
Speaker 2: now saying is actually a lie. Some are saying that
Speaker 2: China's population is actually quite close to America's population and
Speaker 2: that it's all affront interesting. So the way they're calling this,
Speaker 2: you could look at China's census bureau from the nineteen
Speaker 2: fifties and see what their population was.
Speaker 5: So to have they shouldn't have killed all their children
Speaker 5: and gave them away.
Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, agreed that might help them out, but that
Speaker 2: was also they can't afford to feed their people, so
Speaker 2: here's the background on that one. Before the Industrial Revolution
Speaker 2: and the introduction of communism, right, the majority of China
Speaker 2: was farming. It was big agriculture, which they needed to
Speaker 2: feed the massive amount of people that they had. Your
Speaker 2: boy comes in Old Mao and makes it a communist country.
Speaker 2: All right, Cool, Now he's getting all these farm hands
Speaker 2: and putting them into factories. Well, the problem is the
Speaker 2: farm hands are what used to feed the country. They're
Speaker 2: no longer there, so now the farms go to waste,
Speaker 2: and now there's not enough food to go around.
Speaker 3: Now if you look at him in.
Speaker 2: The nineteen fifties as opposed to now, let's just break
Speaker 2: this down. It takes two people to make a baby, right,
Speaker 2: and if two people have two kids, they just replaced themselves.
Speaker 2: They didn't add or take away from the population. It
Speaker 2: was a one to one swap out basically. So to
Speaker 2: get to China from what it was in the fifties
Speaker 2: to what they're claiming.
Speaker 3: Now with a billion people or whatever.
Speaker 2: That means that every woman in China would have had
Speaker 2: you had somewhere between five to seven babies apiece.
Speaker 3: No way, they didn't do that.
Speaker 4: They did not do that. They had a very strict
Speaker 4: ban on how many children they could have.
Speaker 2: The one child policy only came around in the late nineties, right,
Speaker 2: So even even just going from the fifties to the nineties,
Speaker 2: you're telling me for forty fucking years that every woman
Speaker 2: in China was pumping out five to seven puppies apiece.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's not reality. Let alone. They can't feed
Speaker 2: that nini nor produce that mini. So it's just it's
Speaker 2: it's nonsense. It's absolute nonsense. So some experts are actually
Speaker 2: claiming that China's population, especially after the one child policy,
Speaker 2: they are saying, at best they have five hundred million,
Speaker 2: and that is a very very generous estimation on that.
Speaker 2: So I think that the image of.
Speaker 3: The great China is finally starting to be lifted.
Speaker 2: The world is finally aware that it's all been affront
Speaker 2: Their military is nothing impressive, their tech is nothing impressive,
Speaker 2: Their manufacturing capability, the slave labor, they have killed most
Speaker 2: of them. And if during COVID they locked down so many,
Speaker 2: they have killed probably another one hundred thousand only in
Speaker 2: the last five years.
Speaker 3: So it's it's not what you're looking at.
Speaker 4: The average number of children per woman around was around
Speaker 4: six in the early nineteen fifties. In China, the government
Speaker 4: promoted large families during the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties.
Speaker 4: The fertility rate began in a decline in the late
Speaker 4: nineteen seventies due to economic reforms. The one child policy
Speaker 4: was introduced in nineteen eighty, which reduced dramatically reduced birth rates.
Speaker 4: By the late nineteen eighties, the average number of child
Speaker 4: children per woman dropped to about two.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I said it was in the nineties. It
Speaker 3: was in eighty Excuse me.
Speaker 5: No, I was.
Speaker 4: I just was curious as to see what the China's
Speaker 4: fertility rate and stuff is, because yeah, they let's see
Speaker 4: it says that.
Speaker 5: Their fertility rate is still decreasing.
Speaker 4: The decline in twenty twenty to twenty twenty one was
Speaker 4: damn ads is seven point four percent. Then it went
Speaker 4: from twenty three to twenty two three point three percent decline.
Speaker 4: Then it went it actually increased in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: They finally removed the one child policy and they're trying to.
Speaker 5: Promote eight point eight percent increase.
Speaker 4: But now it's steady at only increased to eighteen percent
Speaker 4: over the last since twenty twenty five to twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: so they're still averaging a number of two children as
Speaker 4: of right now. So it's gone down even actually quent
Speaker 4: down significantly. So it looks like the highest peak was
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty four was the average of six oh sorry,
Speaker 4: seven point five to one kids, and then it just
Speaker 4: went all the way down and then it decreased to
Speaker 4: having one kid per household till just last twenty twenty four,
Speaker 4: they now have one point seventy one kids. And I
Speaker 4: understand how you have one point seventy one, you just
Speaker 4: have like.
Speaker 3: It's an average.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, so it looks like overall they have
Speaker 4: it has increased seventy one percent, but they have not
Speaker 4: hardly any numbers since because I can see the actual
Speaker 4: it went.
Speaker 2: From one point one percent to one point seven percent.
Speaker 2: Therefore it's a seventy percent increase. They're not even at
Speaker 2: the rate of replacement right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it went yeah, one percent, So in in
Speaker 4: COVID time it was one point twenty four. Then after
Speaker 4: that it dropped to one point flat, and then it
Speaker 4: went up to one point seventy one percent. Before that,
Speaker 4: the average was one roughly around one point five to
Speaker 4: one point eight percent, and that's been like that since
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 3: And that's what's been point at. That's not even.
Speaker 4: Replacement where that Before that it was like, really it
Speaker 4: was pretty peak high. So in the fifties it was
Speaker 4: about six six point four to nine. Then it dropped
Speaker 4: really really far down to three and sixty one.
Speaker 5: They had a spikes, and then it went.
Speaker 4: All the way down, really declined in nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 4: and that's where it just dipped all the way down.
Speaker 3: So here's the kitcher. We're all, here's the catcher on
Speaker 3: this one. Though.
Speaker 2: So there are people that were in China in the
Speaker 2: nineteen fifties and sixties that are now living in America
Speaker 2: and they are very very open about the fact that
Speaker 2: no one was having six kids. That's a that's a
Speaker 2: completely made up number. And I understand this is what
Speaker 2: the statistics say because we have to go off for
Speaker 2: the best research we can find, and the data we're
Speaker 2: getting is from the CCP.
Speaker 4: So this you're talking, you're talking ten twenty years twenty
Speaker 4: you're talking roughly maybe twenty two years of not even that, yeah,
Speaker 4: like ten twenty years, twenty years exactly of potentially having
Speaker 4: anywhere between five to maybe seven kids at the most.
Speaker 3: Maybe though, and they're saying that those numbers.
Speaker 2: Are completely yes too, so and let's even say that
Speaker 2: that is accurate. Right, let's say that the people that
Speaker 2: I'm talking about are completely full of shit.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Maybe in their small neighborhood it wasn't like that, but
Speaker 2: mainland China whatever else. Fine, they're still decreasing, and they
Speaker 2: have increased in all these things. So they're saying that
Speaker 2: right now China's population at best is five hundred million.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, how they treat.
Speaker 4: Their citizens and then the whole the giant towers where
Speaker 4: they lock them in where they like, in those little
Speaker 4: prison cell blocks and stuff. I actually follow a couple
Speaker 4: Chinese creators that sleep in their car. Yeah, and honestly,
Speaker 4: their car setups are fucking pimp.
Speaker 5: I'm going to give them.
Speaker 4: That they're super creative for how small of living they
Speaker 4: have and everything else, they are the most creative people ever,
Speaker 4: and I actually do enjoy watching them. But they don't
Speaker 4: have a lot of places to go and sleep and
Speaker 4: do all of these things. And so I for years
Speaker 4: have been on the decline. Even if they did raise
Speaker 4: seventy percent, you're talking they went from maybe one child
Speaker 4: to potentially two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe seventy percent sounds like a lot, but when
Speaker 2: you realize that's a one percent to a one point
Speaker 2: seven percent.
Speaker 3: That kind of that. You see what I'm saying, They
Speaker 3: skew the numbers.
Speaker 5: It's just one year, though, it's really just one year.
Speaker 4: It's so I mean, I can see how they wouldn't
Speaker 4: have a bunch plus what they did during COVID. I mean,
Speaker 4: there was a lot of information saying that they killed
Speaker 4: a lot of their citizens.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that they did all this stuff.
Speaker 4: Now I've actually not seen anything that was ever produced
Speaker 4: from that. I saw the initial videos and the initial
Speaker 4: things saying that, like, you know, they trapped all those
Speaker 4: citizens in that one building and then you know, accidentally, oops,
Speaker 4: the building collapsed, and like these people were in there.
Speaker 3: That was nationwide. There are situations like that.
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of different things like that, but
Speaker 4: I've never actually seen the confirm like this is what happened.
Speaker 4: I didn't see since posting it afterwards and saying no,
Speaker 4: this really did happen, like they really did kill us.
Speaker 5: So it's one of those.
Speaker 4: Speculative things that like, I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's actually what happened to them.
Speaker 2: No, but there's all kinds of situations. Hell we I
Speaker 2: just talked about this on the Caves the Night a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. There was this massive bridge and
Speaker 2: a massive dam that just collapsed in China. But it's
Speaker 2: only been operable for about ten years. Wow, did this happen?
Speaker 2: Was it a natural disaster?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, What it is that China has been basically throwing
Speaker 2: construction projects up to make it look like they're just
Speaker 2: doing some big innovation. The quality in the work that
Speaker 2: is being done is so ass that it's not gonna
Speaker 2: last whatsoever. Cut too, you got people living in their cars.
Speaker 2: They have so much building development all over the Great China,
Speaker 2: So why are these people living in the cars? Because
Speaker 2: they're building empty shells of buildings. They are building these
Speaker 2: massive skyrise apartments situations that have no rooms or floors
Speaker 2: for that matter. It's a it's a giant building that
Speaker 2: it's a movie set. That's all it is. What that's
Speaker 2: all it is. It's a giant building that.
Speaker 3: Has anything like that.
Speaker 2: That's that's happening all over China, and it has been
Speaker 2: for years, and it's not even like there's apartments for
Speaker 2: people to rent, but they just can't afford it. No,
Speaker 2: the places that could be rented are being rented, and
Speaker 2: it's always these little shoe box apartments like you're talking about.
Speaker 2: These people are left with no other option but to
Speaker 2: go live in their cars.
Speaker 5: I have never seen that. Honestly, it's mind blowing. I've seen.
Speaker 4: I've seen the whole videos and all the behind the
Speaker 4: behind the scenes I guess, or the you know, inside
Speaker 4: the buildings where they all rent those little literally like
Speaker 4: they're in prison cells just big enough for them to
Speaker 4: sleep in. I've I've watched into that, like you know,
Speaker 4: excuse me watching into that. I've looked into that a
Speaker 4: good bit. But no, I've never seen anything about shell buildings.
Speaker 4: But you know, at this point, the entire world is stage.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe.
Speaker 2: So anyway, cut to the whole situation with the TikTok.
Speaker 4: So how did we end up with China's selling TikTok?
Speaker 4: Because I don't understand why they would.
Speaker 5: Give this up.
Speaker 2: I think that it was because they have very little
Speaker 2: options left. The curtain is finally getting pulled back, and
Speaker 2: they're trying to do whatever they can to keep up
Speaker 2: a certain face to make it look like they ended
Speaker 2: up on the positive side of this.
Speaker 3: TikTok was so over fourteen billion dollars.
Speaker 4: I think they're using that for their version of Genesis
Speaker 4: and the Moon situation that they're tied in with Russia.
Speaker 5: I think I was going to if I.
Speaker 4: Was going to say, I think TikTok is their least
Speaker 4: of their concerns right now. Right now, the race is
Speaker 4: for AI control and for whoever gets on the moon first,
Speaker 4: quote unquote, like whoever sets up the lunar base.
Speaker 5: This is one of those things that they can.
Speaker 4: Make huge profit off of and take that money and
Speaker 4: shove it into those programs. Because Genesis is our version,
Speaker 4: and it's out there trying to hopefully we win this
Speaker 4: whole race. And so it's Russia and them versus US,
Speaker 4: and when it comes to both of these things.
Speaker 3: And Iran.
Speaker 2: And Iran and because for some reason, yeah, they they
Speaker 2: these three are connected.
Speaker 3: They are connected deep. And so the.
Speaker 2: Whole situation when Maduro actually ties into this one, the
Speaker 2: Chinese have seen that their connection to Russia has been
Speaker 2: eternal and all these things, Yet they weren't in the
Speaker 2: loop when Maduro got snatched. They even had Chinese I
Speaker 2: don't want to use the term uh, I guess you
Speaker 2: could say delegates. They had Chinese big wigs that were
Speaker 2: in Caracas the night that Maduro was taken. They had
Speaker 2: just had dinner with them. They had literally just had dinner.
Speaker 2: Putin knew what was about to go down, but she
Speaker 2: did not. That's a problem. Right There's some real rifts
Speaker 2: going on between China and Russia right now, and I
Speaker 2: think China's trying to do what it can to say face.
Speaker 2: So I think that them selling TikTok it wasn't uh.
Speaker 2: I think it was a strategic move. But I also
Speaker 2: think that they got strategic to I got. I think
Speaker 2: that I'm not just saying Trump, I'm saying that the
Speaker 2: United States government strong arm China into doing this. There's
Speaker 2: a big push right now when you look at Iran,
Speaker 2: there's a big push with the Russia Ukraine situation, and
Speaker 2: there's some people that are saying that China might try
Speaker 2: to make a push into Russia in a military way.
Speaker 3: Now. I don't believe that that's gonna happen. I absolutely
Speaker 3: do not believe it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But when you look at the writing on the court,
Speaker 2: on the board, so to speak, a lot of things
Speaker 2: are lining up that shouldn't line up, and China's about
Speaker 2: to get screwed. The problem with that is what happens
Speaker 2: when you corner a pit bull, even if it's a
Speaker 2: Because China's a paid tiger, I'm not. I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody with a brainstems actually worried about the Chinese military
Speaker 2: because why would you be right?
Speaker 3: But that being said, they are a nuclear power and.
Speaker 5: They he says like, I don't know why you're writing
Speaker 5: off their.
Speaker 2: Nukes because if they were to launch nukes, even Russia
Speaker 2: has to nuke them' that's the way this goes. The
Speaker 2: first country to drop them gets dropped on by everybody else.
Speaker 2: So I don't believe that nukes are ever actually going
Speaker 2: to be used again. I think it's the ultimate saber
Speaker 2: rattle because if they get nuked, if any country launches
Speaker 2: nukes again, it's all over, the world's over. Everybody's gonna
Speaker 2: bomb each other and it's all fucked anyway. So and
Speaker 2: everybody knows that, which is why it's the whole mutually
Speaker 2: assured destruction situation, so they could rattle that saber all
Speaker 2: they want it. I don't think that's actually gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So as they're talking about a actual kinetic war with China,
Speaker 2: any country versus China, I feel like they'll find out very,
Speaker 2: very very quickly that China is just like Russia. Everybody
Speaker 2: swore that Russia was the number two biggest military on earth.
Speaker 3: They're so scary, they're so strong.
Speaker 2: For years I was telling people that like nobody in
Speaker 2: the Russian military, from the top general to the lowest private,
Speaker 2: has been shot at. They're not a military that would
Speaker 2: be considered formidable by any metric. It's just because they're
Speaker 2: the big bad Russia. They go to war with Ukraine
Speaker 2: and they had farmers taking tanks and John Deere tractors.
Speaker 2: That was that was a big thing. So Russia got.
Speaker 2: The whole world now knows that Russia is completely full
Speaker 2: of shit. If anybody actually went to war with China,
Speaker 2: the world would find out that China is in the
Speaker 2: exact same boat.
Speaker 3: It's it's not even, and now we know that it's
Speaker 3: not even. Their numbers.
Speaker 2: Their biggest asset has always been their numbers. They don't
Speaker 2: even have that to be a scary force anymore. So
Speaker 2: it's yeah, what you looking at?
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm I find it really interesting.
Speaker 4: Al Jazeer keeps every time I go to this one
Speaker 4: specific article that.
Speaker 5: Lays out China's.
Speaker 4: How this is actually to help them out becoming a
Speaker 4: partying chip with the tensions with the US, every time
Speaker 4: I click on that article, it disappears like it's not
Speaker 4: allowing me to access it. And so I'm trying in
Speaker 4: different approaches to read this one specific article and it's
Speaker 4: just try to read a different one too. From the
Speaker 4: New York Times. It won't let me read it. I
Speaker 4: try to read from BBC, it wouldn't let me read it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, apparently we're not allowed to read this article,
Speaker 4: which longer.
Speaker 2: Tying that in Al Jazeera is a Katari publication. Qatar
Speaker 2: and the UAE are homies, and the UAE just bought
Speaker 2: a portion of TikTok.
Speaker 3: So I'm just throwing it out.
Speaker 2: It's all weird how it connects. I know that a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't like politics. I know the geopolitics
Speaker 2: is very boring to a lot of people.
Speaker 5: But this is really boring to be honest with you, I.
Speaker 2: Get it, I get it, but this is this is
Speaker 2: one of those situations where the geopolitics bleeds into everyone's
Speaker 2: everyday life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's It's one of those topics that, like
Speaker 4: is I never really been a huge fan, but considering
Speaker 4: every single thing impacts us, even when it's overseas, it's
Speaker 4: going to impact us somehow. So it's like you just
Speaker 4: have to learn about it, just you know, at least
Speaker 4: to keep up with kind of what's happening, because you
Speaker 4: don't want to be taken off guard when you know,
Speaker 4: potentially some real shit hits the fan. But I understand
Speaker 4: why people get really bored listening to it and not
Speaker 4: like it's their jam, because it's been never really been
Speaker 4: in my jam either.
Speaker 5: But you know now now I listened to it.
Speaker 4: And learn about it a lot more in the last
Speaker 4: few years, because yeah, shit happens, and a lot of
Speaker 4: it all ties together, and that's where all the money
Speaker 4: is and it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: So and when things are political, they are inherently conspiratorial,
Speaker 2: right because you literally cannot separate the two. So I
Speaker 2: feel like it's worth it for us to have this conversation.
Speaker 3: This evening.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen once again
Speaker 2: for anybody who would like to see it. Come check
Speaker 2: us out at patreon dot com slash culta conspiracy podcast,
Speaker 2: and you will be able to see all of the articles,
Speaker 2: all the things, all the stuff that we were going
Speaker 2: to be talking about moving into it.
Speaker 3: Now. This is from Politico.
Speaker 2: Now, I understand some people have issue with Politico as
Speaker 2: a publication. I hear that, but for this article, in particular,
Speaker 2: the take away the political bias. For two seconds, let's
Speaker 2: just read the facts, okay. TikTok lands a fourteen billion
Speaker 2: dollar deal to avoid US ban. Yes, the TikTok ban
Speaker 2: is what this all comes back to. So China knew
Speaker 2: that they were about to lose their information loop regardless,
Speaker 2: so they decided to make a little money on the
Speaker 2: way out the door. The new owners will include Oracle,
Speaker 2: a tech giant co founded by Trump ally Larry Ellison.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it here. So TikTok has closed this
Speaker 2: fourteen billion dollar deal establishing a US subsidiary subsidiary of
Speaker 2: the platform to avoid a ban, the company said on Thursday.
Speaker 2: The new owners will include the US private equity firm
Speaker 2: silver Lake Abu Dhabi faced artificial intelligence company MGX and Oracle,
Speaker 2: a tech giant co founded by Larry Ellison, an ally
Speaker 2: of President Trump. So we have a US private equity
Speaker 2: firm which has got its own, its own thing. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get to them in particular here in a bit
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi based AI company and Oracle, which is literally
Speaker 2: big brother, very much Orwellian big brother great. They will
Speaker 2: each hold a fifteen percent steak in the US joint venture.
Speaker 2: The deal allows TikTok's Beijing based parent company byte Edance
Speaker 2: to maintain a nearly twenty percent steak. The Dell Family
Speaker 2: office investment firm chair and CEO Dell Technologies Michael Dell,
Speaker 2: is also an investor. Yeah, Dell has their their hand
Speaker 2: in this one, weirdly.
Speaker 4: Enough, and it's so weird to me Dell, of all people,
Speaker 4: of all of them still, Yeah, you would think that
Speaker 4: they wouldn't be still around, but they are.
Speaker 2: You would think Elon, I thought Elon well before Dell.
Speaker 2: I thought Bill Gates. I thought Microsoft.
Speaker 3: Would have bought in on some of this before Dell.
Speaker 4: I'm actually really surprised that Gates Gates has been unusually quiet,
Speaker 4: which is really unnerving to me. Yeah, he's been really quietly.
Speaker 3: It's not a good time.
Speaker 4: No, not at all. I think that they're working towards
Speaker 4: the disease X. It's interesting. Have you gone to Dell's
Speaker 4: Technology Technologies by the way, website, that's what it's called.
Speaker 3: Now, I have something pulled up on them.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it is the particular one, but hey,
Speaker 2: if you want, I could give you the ability.
Speaker 3: To share screen.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 4: I just happened to go and look at it because
Speaker 4: I was I haven't looked at a Dell computer in
Speaker 4: a long time. But the artificial intelligence is the first thing.
Speaker 4: And they have entire infrastructure and they have all sorts
Speaker 4: of stuff that they're doing.
Speaker 5: Like, it's not just one thing.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 4: Dell's Solutions is what it is talking about, and it
Speaker 4: has like trains attached to it. It's yeah, they have
Speaker 4: their hands and all sorts of stuff. It's not just
Speaker 4: one thing.
Speaker 2: So let's talk more into this one here. So Congress
Speaker 2: passed the law on April twenty twenty four requiring the
Speaker 2: sale of TikTok to a US buyer before January nineteen,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, or banning it, citing national security concerns
Speaker 2: about the APPS ties to China, obviously, but Trump delayed
Speaker 2: the ban from taking effect five to times last year
Speaker 2: while a deal was negotiated to divest the.
Speaker 3: APP to American owners.
Speaker 2: Trump signed an executive order in September approving the deal
Speaker 2: and giving the parties until Friday to formalize the terms.
Speaker 2: The deal matches an internal memo distributed by TikTok CEO
Speaker 2: Showzi Chew last month, who said the agreement would be
Speaker 2: finalized by Thursday. The US version will operate as an
Speaker 2: independent entity, governed by a seven member board, including TikTok
Speaker 2: CEO Oracle which I just said, shouz z Shu, Oracle
Speaker 2: Executive vice president, Kenneth Gluick, Timothy Daddles, senior advisor to
Speaker 2: TPG Global, Mark Dooley, Managing director at Susquehanna International Group,
Speaker 2: Silverlay Co CEO, Egon Durbin, DXC Technology CEO Raoul Fernandez,
Speaker 2: and David Scott, Chief Strategy and Safety Officer at mg X,
Speaker 2: which is the Abu Dhabi based AI company. Adam Presser,
Speaker 2: head of the operations and trust and safety at TikTok,
Speaker 2: will now serve as CEO of the joint venture. Trump
Speaker 2: praised this deal on truth Social Of course he did.
Speaker 2: Trump said that in September that Chinese President Jijiping had
Speaker 2: agreed to the deal, but Chinese officials provided an ambiguous
Speaker 2: narrative signaling that the deal would be a drawn out process.
Speaker 2: China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that the country quote
Speaker 2: respects the wishes of enterprises and welcomes them to reach
Speaker 2: solutions that comply with Chinese law and regulations and balance interests. Well,
Speaker 2: that's kind of the whole point. This is no longer
Speaker 2: about Chinese interests in Chinese law, just throwing it out.
Speaker 2: The President thanked g on his truth Social post for
Speaker 2: working with us and ultimately approving the deal. So he
Speaker 2: Trump said he could have gone the other way, but didn't.
Speaker 2: It's appreciated.
Speaker 3: Blah bah bab.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Trump previously described this deal as a qualified divestiture, meaning
Speaker 2: the sale would fully serve bite Dances control or I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: the sale would fully severe or sever bite Dances control
Speaker 2: over the platform and therefore make tik talk legal under
Speaker 2: US law. So now ByteDance does not have controlling interest
Speaker 2: over it. It has a twenty percent, but it does
Speaker 2: not have the majority of the control over what goes
Speaker 2: on there. China hawks on Capitol Hill have champion this
Speaker 2: issue over national security concerns and fears that Chinese controlled
Speaker 2: app subjects users to government surveillance and content manipulation. Because
Speaker 2: it does. It's not a hypothetical, it's not a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: That's a guarantee. While they vowed to scrutinize the potential
Speaker 2: deal to ensure it adheres to the law they seem
Speaker 2: to be, they seemed prepared to accept Trump's claim that
Speaker 2: the deal would resolve concerns over.
Speaker 3: National security and control.
Speaker 2: Jd Vance confirmed that the US owners would have control
Speaker 2: over the app's algorithm, which is at the heart of
Speaker 2: the platform success.
Speaker 3: So he went on.
Speaker 2: He said the US company will have control over how
Speaker 2: the algorithm pushes content to users, and that it was
Speaker 2: a very important part of it. He said in September
Speaker 2: executive order signing in the Oval Office. We thought it
Speaker 2: was necessary for the national security level element of the law.
Speaker 2: According to the company's release, the US version will we're
Speaker 2: quad ll retrain and update the platform's algorithm based on
Speaker 2: US user data oracle.
Speaker 3: We'll control the algorithm within its US cloud.
Speaker 2: Environment, which again I'm not super stoked about I would
Speaker 2: rather Oracle over the CCP.
Speaker 3: But it's it's not it's not really much.
Speaker 2: Of a of an upgrade, honestly, it's it's one slaver
Speaker 2: to another.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that Dell actually is the one that
Speaker 4: we should worry about more over than Oracle.
Speaker 3: Why do you say this, Raven?
Speaker 4: So while I'm while you're reading, I'm listening to you,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Dell's Dell's website and I actually went
Speaker 4: and found their Dell AI Factory, and they have an
Speaker 4: entire website that's dedicated to the acceleration of AI innovention,
Speaker 4: innovation with the Dell AI Factory, and it's embracing implementing
Speaker 4: AI pretty much globally, is what it's talking about. It
Speaker 4: wants to put it everywhere, and it's talking about services, ecosystem,
Speaker 4: and infrastructure. And so when I'm reading into it, like
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not even digging that deep into it, I.
Speaker 5: Was like, you know, let's see what it says.
Speaker 4: So the ecosystem is creating an ecosystem across AI workflows,
Speaker 4: and so what that means is they're creating a path
Speaker 4: for AI to pretty much overtake every kind of everything.
Speaker 4: It collects all your data, it does all of these
Speaker 4: things with it, but it's working with everybody. So you know,
Speaker 4: we're talking about, well where is Bill Gates? Well, Google
Speaker 4: Cloud is here, don't worry. Meta is here, Microsoft is here,
Speaker 4: Teara Data is here, Starburst is there. They have a
Speaker 4: list of about twenty five people that they're working with
Speaker 4: and if you actually click on all of these people,
Speaker 4: they are all AI entity groups that are trying to
Speaker 4: push forward the next step into AI and quantum and
Speaker 4: doing all this stuff. And I haven't even really dug
Speaker 4: super into this, but it's really talking about like the
Speaker 4: resilience and application.
Speaker 5: To being able to.
Speaker 4: Store all your data, avoid corruption, detect cyber threats. It's
Speaker 4: talking about being able to network across all platforms globally
Speaker 4: with the Ethernet fiber.
Speaker 5: What does it say the Ethernet.
Speaker 4: Fibers and the performance needs of Genai workloads and so
Speaker 4: gen Ai is the big computer, so pretty much this
Speaker 4: is this is probably who they're using for Genesis, if
Speaker 4: I was to guess, it's probably who they're like, they're
Speaker 4: all combined together. Oracle is like the storefront, right, and
Speaker 4: then Dell, I think, is the back half and actually
Speaker 4: running this whole thing, because once they get hold of everything,
Speaker 4: their whole thing is they have a factory that they're
Speaker 4: trying to implement the ecosystem across the globe, and they're
Speaker 4: working with all of them. They're all together on it.
Speaker 4: You can see it on their website and you can
Speaker 4: go in and read about it. So I think that's
Speaker 4: who we should be more concerned about than the Oracle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he might be onto something, honestly, and
Speaker 2: the fact that Dell and Oracle are now big wigs
Speaker 2: with TikTok, I feel like we can't understate the importance
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 3: But not everybody is super jazzed about this.
Speaker 2: So this is actually from Michael Sobolik, a senior fellow
Speaker 2: at the right leaning Hudson Institute and an expert on
Speaker 2: the US China policy. He told Politico that President Trump
Speaker 2: got played by Jijaping. He got terrible advice from his
Speaker 2: staff on these negotiations. This isn't the art of the deal,
Speaker 2: it's the art of the steal. Jijaping can't believe his luck.
Speaker 2: That's that is a take. That is a take by
Speaker 2: this so and again, it's not like the CCP has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it anymore. They still hold a
Speaker 2: twenty percent. But okay, so this is moving on. Now
Speaker 2: we're going to.
Speaker 5: Getting their cut into the AI race.
Speaker 2: I think they're still now it may not be a
Speaker 2: Chinese owned app anymore, but they're still going to have
Speaker 2: some sort of a backdoor deal on this. They're still
Speaker 2: going to have some sort of a spyware that's just
Speaker 2: inherent to the app. So I don't see this going
Speaker 2: very positively for anybody, to be honest with you. So
Speaker 2: now we're going to tech Crunch. Here's what you should
Speaker 2: know about the US TikTok deal. All right, let's get
Speaker 2: into it here. TikTok, owned by a Chinese company byte Dance,
Speaker 2: has been at the center of controversy in the US
Speaker 2: four years now due to concerns about the user data
Speaker 2: potentially being accessed by the Chinese government. Thursday January twenty second,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, TikTok announced that the TikTok USDs Joint
Speaker 2: Venture LLC had officially been established to comply with President
Speaker 2: Trump's executive order that approved the sale of TikTok's US
Speaker 2: operations to an American investor group, now Byteedance will own
Speaker 2: less than twenty percent of the new entity, with the
Speaker 2: rest of it falling into non Chinese ownership. Over the years,
Speaker 2: US users have often found themselves caught in the middle
Speaker 2: of this tension, facing uncertainty about how their access to
Speaker 2: the app would change. For creators who used TikTok to
Speaker 2: make a living, the stakes were even higher. Last year,
Speaker 2: the app experienced a temporary augie in the US that
Speaker 2: left millions of users in suspense before it was quickly restored. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that twenty four hour ban that was done right,
Speaker 2: which I also think was a show of force. That
Speaker 2: wasn't That was a.
Speaker 4: Flex Yeah, I don't think that was anything. I think
Speaker 4: that was just like a see I told you I
Speaker 4: could do it right.
Speaker 3: So a number of investors competed.
Speaker 2: To purchase the app, and after President Trump extended the
Speaker 2: U TikTok band deadline for the.
Speaker 3: Fourth time, the battle finally ceased.
Speaker 2: In December twenty twenty five, TikTok officially signed a deal
Speaker 2: to divest a portion of its US entity to a
Speaker 2: group of American investors. Early in twenty twenty five, President
Speaker 2: Trump had announced that Jijuping of China had given his
Speaker 2: approval of the TikTok deal, which would allow a consortium
Speaker 2: of US investors to control the platform. Byte Dance stated
Speaker 2: publicly that it would ensure the platform remains available to
Speaker 2: US users. So who owns TikTok in the US? Byte
Speaker 2: Dance will retain nearly eight twenty percent stake in the company,
Speaker 2: while non Chinese investors will hold the remaining eighty percent ownership.
Speaker 2: The managing investor group consists of Oracle, private equity firm
Speaker 2: silver Lake, and the investment firm MGX. These three investors
Speaker 2: will each hold fifteen percent of the US operations, or
Speaker 2: forty five percent collectively. So just going off of those two,
Speaker 2: let's just say let's round it up and say Byte
Speaker 2: Dance owns twenty now they own sixty five or collectively
Speaker 2: between China, silver Lake, MX or MGX and Oracle, these
Speaker 2: four groups own sixty five percent of TikTok.
Speaker 3: So who owns the other thirty five percent?
Speaker 2: I wonder But old Dell boy, I'm wondering how much
Speaker 2: he bought in on this other investments. Yeah, so other investors,
Speaker 2: which include the existing Byte Dance investors, make up another
Speaker 2: thirty five percent of the ventures ownership. This includes the
Speaker 2: Dell Family office, Michael Dell's investment firm, Susquehanna affiliate, vastmir Okay,
Speaker 2: Alpha Wave Partners, and several more which are listed in
Speaker 2: TikTok's press release, which you know, we might open that
Speaker 2: one next just to see how that goes. Reports estimate
Speaker 2: that the TikTok us is valued at approximately fourteen billion,
Speaker 2: a figure also mentioned by JD Vance. Newly formed TikTok
Speaker 2: USDs Joint Venture LLC will oversee the apps operation, including
Speaker 2: data protection, algorithm security, content moderation, and software assurance. Oracle
Speaker 2: serve as the trusted security partner responsible for auditing and
Speaker 2: ensuring compliance with national security terms. According to a memo,
Speaker 2: the company already provides cloud services for TikTok and manages
Speaker 2: user data in the US. Notably, Oracle previously made a
Speaker 2: bid for TikTok back in twenty twenty. A White House
Speaker 2: officially previously said Oracle would replicate and secure a new
Speaker 2: US version of the algorithm, and the US based TikTok
Speaker 2: owners could lease the algorithm from ByteDance, which Oracle will
Speaker 2: then retrain. Byedance will not have access to information about
Speaker 2: TikTok's US users or any influence over the US algorithm
Speaker 2: that makes me Lot's good, it makes me happy. So
Speaker 2: how will TikTok change for US users? Since the deal
Speaker 2: was only just finalized, as not exactly clear how the
Speaker 2: two hundred million American TikTok users will be impacted? Damn
Speaker 2: near two thirds of all Americans are using this app.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So while earlier reports suggests that US users might need
Speaker 2: to transition to a new platform, more recent reports have
Speaker 2: denied this claim, assuring users that they will not need
Speaker 2: to download a new app. It's unclear how users algorithmic
Speaker 2: feeds will be impacted at this time.
Speaker 3: So how do we get here? To fully understand the
Speaker 3: high stakes drama?
Speaker 2: Will first revisit a timeline of the TikTok tumultuous relationship
Speaker 2: with the US government, which resulted in various legal battles
Speaker 2: and negotiations. The drama first began in August of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: when Trump signed executive order to ban transactions with parent
Speaker 2: company byt Dance. A month later, Trump administration sought to
Speaker 2: force a sale of TikTok's US operations to a US
Speaker 2: based company. The leading contenders included Microsoft, Oracle, and Walmart
Speaker 2: believe it or not. However, a US judge temporarily blocked
Speaker 2: Trump's executive order, allowing TikTok to continue operating while the
Speaker 2: legal battle unfolded. Things began to progress even more following
Speaker 2: the transition to the Biden administration. After the Senate passed
Speaker 2: the bill against TikTok, President Biden signed it. Did he
Speaker 2: actually or was it one of his aides?
Speaker 3: Who knows?
Speaker 2: In response, TikTok sued the US government, challenging the constitutionality constitutionality,
Speaker 2: yeah of the bandon, arguing the app and its American
Speaker 2: users were having their First Amendment rights violated. That is
Speaker 2: fucking hilarious. That is absolutely that is rich that the CCP,
Speaker 2: who owns ByteDance, would sue the American government for infringing
Speaker 2: upon the American people's right to freedom of speech.
Speaker 5: How dare you?
Speaker 3: What? What are we even talking about here? But okay, now, I.
Speaker 5: Guess they were trying to stand up for the American people.
Speaker 2: The same country where if you call the president a panda,
Speaker 2: you get life in prison.
Speaker 4: But okay, hey, don't cast stones. Okay, they're trying to
Speaker 4: help American people.
Speaker 2: Whatever. Sure, because China really did careing about the American.
Speaker 3: People, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was all It was all a ploy though,
Speaker 4: because look at how many people use it. If they
Speaker 4: didn't give a shit about or they didn't at least
Speaker 4: put a show on that they cared about the American people,
Speaker 4: then they would lose people to other platforms, and then
Speaker 4: they wouldn't have enough, they wouldn't gain more momentum, and
Speaker 4: they wouldn't be able to brainwash more people.
Speaker 2: So they had nothing to do with Americans free speech.
Speaker 2: It had everything to do with the data. It had
Speaker 2: everything to do with ad revenue. It had everything to
Speaker 2: do Yeah, that's all it ever actually boils down to
Speaker 2: is money, right?
Speaker 4: And by the way, if anyone actually goes and checks
Speaker 4: out dell Man, the rabbit holes that I have somehow
Speaker 4: managed to find myself in in the last five minutes
Speaker 4: is crazy.
Speaker 3: Is this going to be another episode? Raven?
Speaker 9: There?
Speaker 5: Quantum computing innovation is insane right now. And the data
Speaker 5: they have like all sorts to research.
Speaker 4: I just started clicking on things and started reading where
Speaker 4: their money is going, where their flow. They have like
Speaker 4: a whole billboard sign like pamphlet about how they're collecting
Speaker 4: your data and how AI is like your best friend,
Speaker 4: and how they're doing this with all the other companies.
Speaker 5: And then I clicked on.
Speaker 4: It was like it had like a little thing it
Speaker 4: said here click here to read more research.
Speaker 5: So I clicked there, and then I clicked another thing.
Speaker 4: Then I've somehow found myself really deep into this massive
Speaker 4: website that they have. So it might turn into a
Speaker 4: whole episode, because everybody knows. I do like to talk
Speaker 4: about AI because I feel like we are on the
Speaker 4: cusp of something very serious happening to us as humans.
Speaker 2: Easy, Hey, I can't be talking too harshly about the overlords.
Speaker 3: Watch it now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, Terminator's gonna come for me, dude.
Speaker 3: It's so bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at that, I think it was
Speaker 2: Dell that actually developed the mini quantum computing chip.
Speaker 3: Why isn't the majorum I think.
Speaker 4: It's called Uh. They have all sorts of stuff. I
Speaker 4: was looking at Harness. They have like a hybrid quantum
Speaker 4: computing chip that they just made with Dell's power edge in.
Speaker 5: N V I d I a q video qum.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's how you spell that. They have it all
Speaker 4: spelled out like that qum quantum thing. They have a
Speaker 4: discovery that they just powered up. They just did a
Speaker 4: whole hybrid classification of quantum computing.
Speaker 5: They have like new algorithms that they've made.
Speaker 4: That's not including their whole AI thing they have going
Speaker 4: on too.
Speaker 5: Because they have they have.
Speaker 4: Like building it, preparing it. You can take classes on
Speaker 4: it yourself as a person to learn how the ecosystem
Speaker 4: works and the environment because they have it listed, like
Speaker 4: they have a picture where it's like listed and it
Speaker 4: has like the ecosystem is the second tier, and then
Speaker 4: the inpook and then applying it to everything is the
Speaker 4: third tier. And then it has like tiers that you
Speaker 4: can take your own classes if you want to on it,
Speaker 4: which no joke, I'm probably going to honestly take because
Speaker 4: i want to see what.
Speaker 5: The hell they're doing. Yeah, and I'm nosy.
Speaker 4: So it has like services, ecosystem and infrastructure is how
Speaker 4: they have it laid out. And yeah, you can click
Speaker 4: on everything and they have it all.
Speaker 5: It's interesting.
Speaker 4: If you didn't know the names, you wouldn't understand which
Speaker 4: ones are quantum and which ones aren't.
Speaker 5: And they're all in they're all untwined.
Speaker 4: And I think they're going to use the data from
Speaker 4: TikTok as the algorithm to be able to push it
Speaker 4: more onto us and be able to make sure they
Speaker 4: make it more friendly, more palatable for everyone to you know, hey,
Speaker 4: we love aire using.
Speaker 5: It for everything?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: Clearly obviously it's for good, you know. So fast forward
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty four. Trump it changed the heart, had
Speaker 2: a change of heart since his first term, and sought
Speaker 2: to achieve a fifty to fifty ownership arrangement between by
Speaker 2: Dance and a US company. There were several contenders, including
Speaker 2: the People's Bid for TikTok, a consortium organized by Project
Speaker 2: Liberty founder Frank McCourt. This group had the support of
Speaker 2: investment firm Guggenheim Securities and the law firm Kirkland and Ellis.
Speaker 2: Supporters included Reddit co founder Alexis o'hanian Ohanian I don't
Speaker 2: know TV personality and investor Kevin O'Leary. Oh Shark Tank
Speaker 2: was interested in buying TikTok. That's not shocking. Inventor of
Speaker 2: the World Wide Web, Tim Burns Lee or Berners Lee,
Speaker 2: the inventor of the Internet, wanted to get in on
Speaker 2: this TikTok purchase, and senior research scientist David Clark. Another
Speaker 2: group called the American Investor Consortium was led by Employer
Speaker 2: dot Com founder Jesse Tinsley and included Roadblocks co founder
Speaker 2: David Bussiki, so Anchorage Digital co founder Nathan McCauley, and
Speaker 2: famous YouTuber mister Beast.
Speaker 3: Y'all, I wish I was joking.
Speaker 2: I wish I was joking about this, but no, we
Speaker 2: got the hodgepodge of shitheads that are wanting to all
Speaker 2: buy in on TikTok when it was possibly a fifty
Speaker 2: to fifty ownership situation.
Speaker 3: Mister Beast was trying to get in on this shit.
Speaker 2: Roadblocks, Roadblocks co founder, the dude who is protecting predators
Speaker 2: to this day, parents and literal children play that shit.
Speaker 3: He wanted to buy TikTok.
Speaker 4: That's a really he Roadblocks, by the way, they just are.
Speaker 4: They had some weird ads pop up in the last
Speaker 4: like twenty four hours.
Speaker 5: On some of the games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them was, uh.
Speaker 5: It was very weird.
Speaker 4: It was talking about like making out and girls and
Speaker 4: like all this stuff. I've never seen a single ad
Speaker 4: on TikTok, but else TikTok, excuse me, Roadblocks, but apparently
Speaker 4: that's a thing. That's been popping up in the last
Speaker 4: few hours or last few days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I've been saying it for a while,
Speaker 2: and honestly, it's not just because it's a.
Speaker 3: Game where a bunch of kids play. I got no
Speaker 3: issue with that.
Speaker 2: And you know, there are predators on there that are
Speaker 2: trying to attract kids into private servers, and like, okay.
Speaker 3: This is the thing that's happening.
Speaker 2: As soon as they get caught, and as soon as
Speaker 2: this gets put forward to the leaders of roadblocks, they
Speaker 2: should if they gave a fuck about children, they should
Speaker 2: kick those users, kick their entire ip, get them out
Speaker 2: of here, because we want our app to be safe.
Speaker 2: We want these games to be safe for kids, because
Speaker 2: that's how we make our money. They have gone out
Speaker 2: of their way to protect hundreds, if not thousands, of
Speaker 2: these predators. It's not even like they're playing the role
Speaker 2: of ignorance and they're just kind of taking a step
Speaker 2: back and saying, oh, well, I mean, we can't really
Speaker 2: do much, but but no, they're actually spending money to
Speaker 2: protect them.
Speaker 3: Yo. There's a disgusting world we live in.
Speaker 2: So anyway, that fucker was trying to get in on
Speaker 2: some TikTok purchasing back in this year.
Speaker 5: Others because Amazon doesn't have it well.
Speaker 2: Others in the running included Amazon app Love and Microsoft Perplexity,
Speaker 2: Ai Rumble, Walmart, Zoup, former Activision CEO Bobby Kotik, and
Speaker 2: former US Treasury Secretary Stephen mcnuchin Manuchin.
Speaker 5: That's a weird one.
Speaker 3: That's a very weird one.
Speaker 2: The former Secretary of the Treasury wanted to buy half
Speaker 2: of TikTok at one point in.
Speaker 5: Time, which I think is interesting.
Speaker 3: It's very very interesting, isn't it. You know what I
Speaker 3: do want.
Speaker 2: To see about this whole TikTok press release, to see
Speaker 2: about the list of who actually owns it.
Speaker 3: Let's see but ba ba uh okay.
Speaker 2: So, the joint venture a security organization, will operate as
Speaker 2: an independent entity governed by the following seven member majority
Speaker 2: American Board of Directors. So Chew is the director, right,
Speaker 2: He's the one that was already a part of TikTok
Speaker 2: from the beginning. Timothy Daddles Director Daddles is a senior
Speaker 2: advisor to TPG Global, where he previously served as a
Speaker 2: partner chairman of TPG Asia and a member of the
Speaker 2: firm's Executive Committee.
Speaker 3: Mark Dooley. He's a managing director at Susquehanna International Group,
Speaker 3: which he joined in nine teen eighty seven. Is one
Speaker 3: of the firm's original employees. He serves on the.
Speaker 2: Firm's management Committee, overseeing its global trading operations.
Speaker 3: Egon Durbin, I'm pretty sure I'm mispronouncing it. Don't care.
Speaker 2: He is the co CEO of Silver Lake, which he
Speaker 2: joined in ninety nine as a founding principal. He serves
Speaker 2: on multiple boards across Silver Lakes portfolio, including Dell Technologies,
Speaker 2: or Qual Tricks, TKO Group, Unity.
Speaker 3: And way Mo Yeah all right.
Speaker 2: Raoul Fernandez Independent Director and Chair of the Security Committee.
Speaker 2: Fernandez is a president and Chief executive Officer of DXC
Speaker 2: Technologies and a member of its Board of Directors. He
Speaker 2: brings more than three decades of experience to the intersection
Speaker 2: of technology, risk and national security. Kenneth Gluick Director. He
Speaker 2: is executive Vice president of in the Office of the
Speaker 2: Chief Executive Officer at Oracle, where he advises the CEO
Speaker 2: on global Strategy, business MMA M and A rather technology
Speaker 2: policy and record sulatory matters, and leads global corporate affairs
Speaker 2: and global corporate communications David Scott direct.
Speaker 3: We already talked about these.
Speaker 2: He is a Chief Strategy and Safety Officer at MGX,
Speaker 2: that's the Abu Dhabi based AI company, where he works
Speaker 2: closely with the funds leadership to set mgx's strategic direction,
Speaker 2: including overseeing the governance of security and safety risks associated
Speaker 2: with emerging AI technologies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very sure, Adam Presser, he said.
Speaker 2: It will be led by Adam Presser, who was appointed
Speaker 2: today as CEO by the board as one of its
Speaker 2: first actions. So Adam Presser serves as CEO of TikTok
Speaker 2: USDs joint venture.
Speaker 3: Under his leadership, the joint venture will secure US user.
Speaker 2: Data, apps and the algorithm while driving business growth for TikTok,
Speaker 2: cap Cut and additional apps and websites in the US. Previously,
Speaker 2: Adam hild roles at TikTok USDs, TikTok and Warner Media. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind a big one. It's kind of a big.
Speaker 3: Will Ferrell. No, I don't believe it's the.
Speaker 5: Actor, but I saw that name and I was like, hmmm.
Speaker 2: He serves as Chief Security Officer of TikTok's joint venture,
Speaker 2: where he oversees the joint venture's comprehensive data privacy and
Speaker 2: cybersecurity program. Previously, Will held roles at TikTok's USDs TikTok
Speaker 2: and booz Allen Hamilton.
Speaker 3: It's another big player here. Let's see.
Speaker 2: So we talked about the Silver Lake Oracle and MGX
Speaker 2: fifteen percent of the companies. The rest of them is
Speaker 2: the Dell Family Office, Vastmere Strategic Investments, an affiliate of
Speaker 2: Susquehanna Air National Group, Alpha Wave Partners, Revolution merit Way LLC,
Speaker 2: controlled and managed by Partners of Dragoneer. Via Nova, an
Speaker 2: affiliate of General Atlantic. Virgo ll Inc. Or Virgo Lee Inc.
Speaker 2: Rather an investment arm of a foundation established by Yuri
Speaker 2: and Julia Milliner in support of science in JJ Capitol,
Speaker 2: The family office of Javier Neil, a French entrepreneur and
Speaker 2: pioneer in telecommunications ByteDance, retains nineteen point nine percent of
Speaker 2: the joint venture.
Speaker 3: So there we have.
Speaker 5: We knew that name. Sorry, I'm thinking about that which one?
Speaker 5: Virgo Lee one. I don't know why I know that name.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's let's see, established by Yuri and Julia Milner,
Speaker 2: so that might know.
Speaker 5: I know that name for some reason, and I don't
Speaker 5: know why.
Speaker 2: So so anyway, that is the entire list released by
Speaker 2: TikTok of who owns the company or the US affiliate,
Speaker 2: I should say as of.
Speaker 3: Time of recording.
Speaker 2: And again, I think this all ties into what is
Speaker 2: going on geopolitically around the world. I don't think that
Speaker 2: this was something that was, you know, eight months in
Speaker 2: the making and the planning and all this. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: for it to go down as fast as it did
Speaker 2: in the way that it did.
Speaker 3: I feel like this.
Speaker 2: Was way more strategic. Gonna be honest with you. Did
Speaker 2: you find anything on those two Yeah?
Speaker 4: So so it's an AI analytic platform designed to design
Speaker 4: for advance. Uh, it's it's pretty much GI care through
Speaker 4: endoscopic imagery and also like a whole bunch of different
Speaker 4: like colonoscopies, research and all of that.
Speaker 5: So it's all about that.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, well that makes that makes
Speaker 4: a lot more sense because I have a child that
Speaker 4: has GI issues.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: I've seen the name though, like over and over again,
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting here like I know this name, and
Speaker 4: I don't know why I know the name yet now
Speaker 4: I get it why I know the name.
Speaker 3: So here we go.
Speaker 5: So that a GI group would be involved in that.
Speaker 2: But then you say that there AI as far as
Speaker 2: the GI tracking and the medical industry is concerned, but
Speaker 2: they're using AI in the medical field.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Yeah, that would be the connection. So it's
Speaker 3: just so real quick. We're gonna watch this video. It's
Speaker 3: from Ryan macbeth.
Speaker 2: I know people that love everything he says. I know
Speaker 2: people that hate everything he says. And I don't fully
Speaker 2: agree with him even on this point, but I feel
Speaker 2: like he is making a very very valid point when
Speaker 2: it comes to this and the merger and all these
Speaker 2: things are the biot, I should say. He says, China's
Speaker 2: feedback loop just got cut. So let's talk about that
Speaker 2: a little bit more in depth. Here's Ryan macbeth.
Speaker 7: The United States just won its first battle and the
Speaker 7: coming war with China today, and nobody even knows who
Speaker 7: fired a shot. He goes today, TikTok is officially sold
Speaker 7: to Oracle for anyone goes right, it's just an app.
Speaker 7: Let me stop you right there. TikTok was not just
Speaker 7: an app. TikTok was a Chinese information warfare system. And
Speaker 7: today the United States just took a major fires platform
Speaker 7: off the table. TikTok was a weapons system that.
Speaker 9: Was just as damaging as a cruise missile.
Speaker 7: And to explain what that matters, I need to explain
Speaker 7: one concept people keep missing. Information warfare is fires, not messaging,
Speaker 7: not persuasion, not propaganda. Fires no different than a cruise
Speaker 7: missile or artillery in the military. Fires is anything that
Speaker 7: creates effects at a distance, like artillery, airstrikes a loitering munition.
Speaker 7: You don't use fires to convince the enemy, use fires
Speaker 7: to shape the battlefield so maneuvering becomes easier. Information warfare
Speaker 7: works the same way. The goal isn't necessarily to change minds.
Speaker 7: The goal is to delay decisions or fracture trust, increase friction,
Speaker 7: force over reaction, or even cause kinetic effects. One of
Speaker 7: the things I like to bring up is the attack
Speaker 7: on the MV Cape Orlando, which was done by pro
Speaker 7: Hamas factions that thought there are weapons systems getting sent
Speaker 7: to Israel on the MVKPE Orlando.
Speaker 9: So TikTok told.
Speaker 7: Them go glue yourself to the side of the ship
Speaker 7: to prevent it from leaving.
Speaker 9: This kind of attack used to require a missile.
Speaker 7: If you wanted to take out a ship, you had
Speaker 7: to use a missile, or get some Navy seals in there,
Speaker 7: put a mine on the bottom of the ship blow
Speaker 7: it up. Instead, you just send information toward people and
Speaker 7: convince them to perform the attack themselves. If you've ever
Speaker 7: wondered why disinformation feels chaotic and stupid, it's because fires
Speaker 7: aren't elegant, right, They're loud, they're disruptive, and they don't
Speaker 7: care about collateral damage. TikTok wasn't dangerous because of American
Speaker 7: teenagers dancing. TikTok was dangerous because it functioned as a
Speaker 7: real time sentiment sensor and a precision targeting system for narratives.
Speaker 7: This thing could deliver time disinformation no different than time artillery, brage,
Speaker 7: bite dance. Didn't necessarily need to tell TikTok what to
Speaker 7: push politically, they only needed to control the algorithm and
Speaker 7: amplify content that fit their criteria. Good example of how
Speaker 7: information warfare can work as fires.
Speaker 9: Let's talk about Russia.
Speaker 7: Say you're Russia and you want to stop the United
Speaker 7: States from sending artillery rounds to Ukraine.
Speaker 9: You could fire a cruise missile at the shell factory
Speaker 9: in scram Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7: Rushi has that capability or you'd get Tucker Carlson claim
Speaker 7: that half of all artillery shells being sent to Ukraine
Speaker 7: are ending up in the hands of drug cartels in Mexico.
Speaker 10: Fact is, Ukrainian military is selling a huge percentage, up
Speaker 10: to half of the arms that we send them half
Speaker 10: And I'm not guessing about this. I know that for
Speaker 10: a fact, a fact, okay, not speculation, and they're selling
Speaker 10: it and a lot of us winding up with the
Speaker 10: drug cartels on our border.
Speaker 7: Now, I wasn't aware that the Cineloa carteled and Triple
Speaker 7: seven howards.
Speaker 9: But it doesn't have to make sense. It just has
Speaker 9: to be repeated enough.
Speaker 7: Online that the average person calls their congressmen or tweets
Speaker 7: at their congressmen and says, you need to stop sending
Speaker 7: shells to Ukraine because they're going to Sinaloa cartel members.
Speaker 7: And we've seen how spineless Congress is. How fast are
Speaker 7: they going to vote to prevent shells getting sent to Ukraine?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: The effect is the same as a missile. The effect
Speaker 7: is the same as destroying the factory. Information warfare as
Speaker 7: a weapons effector now imagine millions of Tucker Carlson's that
Speaker 7: are being generated and controlled by AI and designed to
Speaker 7: influence you personally. Imagine content that is created by AI
Speaker 7: targeting you because it knows what you like, what you dislike,
Speaker 7: how to influence you personally.
Speaker 9: Combine that with TikTok's algorithm.
Speaker 7: Look, we've already seen it with the Asian Silver Guy,
Speaker 7: which is really a criminal gang that uses AI generated
Speaker 7: videos to manipulate silver prices.
Speaker 9: Micro targeted on the fly, AI.
Speaker 7: Generated information warfare that is custom designed to target you
Speaker 7: and get you to perform an action such as reposting
Speaker 7: we don't need to fight for Taiwan. They've always been Chinese.
Speaker 7: And then you tweet at your congressman and say, don't
Speaker 7: you dare support sending military troops to Taiwan. If we
Speaker 7: let TikTok continue, it would turn into an AI controlled
Speaker 7: weapons system.
Speaker 9: And the target is really you. That's it.
Speaker 7: If you can see what makes the population angry, what
Speaker 7: makes the disengage or polarize or stop trusting institutions, you
Speaker 7: don't necessarily need a cruise missile to accomplish the objective.
Speaker 7: We'll do it ourselves with protesters. TikTok was not propaganda
Speaker 7: in the old sense. It was fire control and kind of.
Speaker 7: Here's the key point. China does not think about war
Speaker 7: the way Americans do. They don't separate military conflict, political warfare,
Speaker 7: and information operations. It's all the same. It's all one continuum.
Speaker 7: China has this three warfare strategy, which means media warfare,
Speaker 7: legal warfare, and psychological warfare. In PLA doctrine, shaping the
Speaker 7: information environment before crisis is how you win without firing
Speaker 7: a shot. Like sun Zu said, right to win without
Speaker 7: fighting is best. If you can erode trust and elections,
Speaker 7: undermine confidence institutions, and normalize internal conflict. You don't need
Speaker 7: to defeat the US military on the battlefield.
Speaker 9: That's hard.
Speaker 7: You just need to make sure it can't be employed coherently.
Speaker 7: Because you have people tweeting at their congressmen not to
Speaker 7: support Taiwan because I don't know, Tucker Carlson will come
Speaker 7: up with a reason. Now, let's talk about why Oracle matters.
Speaker 7: Oracle doesn't make TikTok better and necessarily safer. Oracle makes
Speaker 7: TikTok less useful as a weapon because Oracle controls the data,
Speaker 7: the infrastructure, the recommendation algorithm, and auditibility, and China lose
Speaker 7: something critically they lose feedback. A fire system.
Speaker 9: Without feedback is blind. Right. Even artillery needs spotters.
Speaker 7: You can launch rounds, you just don't know where they
Speaker 7: land without a spotter. Oracle can't stop TikTok from existing,
Speaker 7: but they can stop TikTok from functioning as a Chinese
Speaker 7: weapons platform, and that is a massive difference. This is
Speaker 7: counter battery fire really not censorship. And this is the
Speaker 7: part and a lot of people misunderstand. If China part
Speaker 7: artillery battery inside an American media company, we wouldn't debate
Speaker 7: free speech, would remove the freaking gun.
Speaker 9: Right. TikTok under bike Dance is a foreign fires.
Speaker 7: Platform embedded in US civil society, literally running on our phones.
Speaker 9: Oracle is the sandbag bunker, right taking.
Speaker 2: All right, So again a couple of key points that
Speaker 2: mister macbeth just made.
Speaker 3: First of all, right, off the rip.
Speaker 2: I love that he called out Tucker Carlson for being
Speaker 2: fucking retarded.
Speaker 3: He knows for a fact that half.
Speaker 2: Of the munitions that we're sending to Ukraine is going
Speaker 2: to the Cartels artillery.
Speaker 4: Where since proof he has, I mean, I just want
Speaker 4: to see like actual proof when people, when politicians or
Speaker 4: people that have high up positions where they can heavily
Speaker 4: influence people just start spouting out at the mouth.
Speaker 5: I want them to actually back themselves.
Speaker 4: I e. Trump is you know, notorious for seeing fucking
Speaker 4: off the wall shit that have no bearing, no backing.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're if you're in a position where
Speaker 4: people can fact check its fat fat check you. Oh man,
Speaker 4: it's late and I'm just obviously tongue tied, but be
Speaker 4: able to check you and you, you know, say things
Speaker 4: that are not true. Some people are not smart enough
Speaker 4: or they're just you know, pretty much cheap, will believe
Speaker 4: everything that you're they hear without it ever trying to
Speaker 4: disprove it. I really think that they should be held
Speaker 4: more accountable, especially when they talk about things that can
Speaker 4: really impact people.
Speaker 3: I agree. And Tucker cross and speaks to the boomer generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he speaks to the younger crowd too, because he's
Speaker 2: seen as like.
Speaker 3: Oh, he left Fox News, he's all about the truth now.
Speaker 2: I bet there are so many people that used to
Speaker 2: live off of Fox News that now live off of Tucker.
Speaker 2: And the problem is he he's still the same guy.
Speaker 2: His dad was still a CIA guy, and he forgot
Speaker 2: about that until like a year ago, two years ago,
Speaker 2: something like that, which is mind blowing to me.
Speaker 5: But whatever, maybe he went under hypnosis and it like
Speaker 5: re emerged.
Speaker 2: Actually there might be something to that, but not in
Speaker 2: the way that you're saying it, because he was also
Speaker 2: a deadhead for years, like he followed the grateful dead
Speaker 2: and just did mass amounts of psychedelics in his youth
Speaker 2: and then cut to now he's like the voice of
Speaker 2: conservatism or something that just like magically transitionally happened. Never
Speaker 2: mind the fact that his dad was a big media
Speaker 2: CIA guy.
Speaker 3: That's that's crazy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so he knows for a fact that somehow
Speaker 2: how it surrounds are making their way to the cartels,
Speaker 2: which is fucking actually retarded, like whatever, But.
Speaker 4: If you know any I mean, just the studies though
Speaker 4: show you that if you speak with any type of
Speaker 4: authoritative voice and you believe or at least you're portraying
Speaker 4: that you believe exactly what you're saying, at least like
Speaker 4: twenty percent of the people, like we're talking low numbers,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be leave what you're saying.
Speaker 5: So he doesn't need to have any backing.
Speaker 4: Even they're fucking sending him over there and blah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. It's like, Okay, you could, you could really
Speaker 4: look stuff up, you really could, but but he won't.
Speaker 3: It's the same with Russia.
Speaker 2: Whenever he win did his interview with Putin, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I was I was super stoked for that. By the way,
Speaker 2: how he got that information, how he got the plug
Speaker 2: to go over and do that interview.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even agreed to it, Like I feel like
Speaker 4: Putin just is kind of like tolerating people these days,
Speaker 4: he's just so over people.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, but at the same time, whenever you watch
Speaker 2: the interview, it was two hours of Tucker basically softballing
Speaker 2: questions to him and him giving a two hour history
Speaker 2: lesson on traditional Russia. That's all it actually was. And
Speaker 2: then somehow it ended with, well, Ukraine's always been Russian,
Speaker 2: so why isn't it's still Russian? And it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: by that logic, England has always been a part of
Speaker 2: the Roman Empire, so why didn't Italy still own it?
Speaker 3: That's how fucking stupid.
Speaker 5: That is out loud, like borders change.
Speaker 3: That's how that's how history takes place.
Speaker 2: But sure, okay, and then now Tucker is like fully
Speaker 2: convinced that the Ukrainians are actually the bad guys and
Speaker 2: Russia's actually the good guys. They are fighting for their life,
Speaker 2: and that America is an open war with Russia and
Speaker 2: all this. I'm like, I must have missed the marine
Speaker 2: battalion that got sent to fight Russia.
Speaker 3: I must have missed that that little uh plug in
Speaker 3: the news there, Tucker.
Speaker 5: It doesn't it doesn't matter, It doesn't, it doesn't follow
Speaker 5: the narrative.
Speaker 2: And every time he gets checked, like actually checked by
Speaker 2: somebody who knows more than him, he quickly diverts the
Speaker 2: conversation and make some other ash like crazy point.
Speaker 3: But that's that's how the media runs.
Speaker 2: And so all right, now, aside from the Tucker shit,
Speaker 2: back to the TikTok situation, right, what is your take
Speaker 2: on Ryan's assertion that TikTok is an information loop which
Speaker 2: can be used as a way of warfare against the
Speaker 2: American people.
Speaker 5: I think it's actually a smart idea. Yeah. Actually, I
Speaker 5: was looking at this whole background. I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: we got a lot of shit on the walls. So
Speaker 5: this dude, in my own heart of a bunch of
Speaker 5: shit on walls.
Speaker 2: So this dude is a Marine Corpvette and he currently
Speaker 2: works for a company who basically finds the bad guy
Speaker 2: whenever a information packet gets put together to give to
Speaker 2: Delta or to a drone group or whatever, and they
Speaker 2: need to know the whereabouts about shithead Number A and
Speaker 2: his family. Ryan's the guy that puts that packet together
Speaker 2: to make sure that the drone hal shirt.
Speaker 4: So yeah, like, ah, okay, well, I mean I think
Speaker 4: he has a really good point, you know, being able
Speaker 4: to use that all the data is being collected. I
Speaker 4: think it's it's just mass propaganda and and everything that
Speaker 4: they're collecting is figuring out how the information flows to
Speaker 4: the American people, what they're clicking on, what they're more engaged.
Speaker 5: With, what they you know, what are they liking.
Speaker 4: More of, how people talk, how people are responding, what
Speaker 4: are they talking about, you know, how to be able
Speaker 4: to sway the masses. It's interesting. I've watched some different
Speaker 4: things happen when things go viral. I've found like one
Speaker 4: or two clips of somebody talking about something and then
Speaker 4: give it a few days and suddenly that became viral,
Speaker 4: and so you kind of like track it back and
Speaker 4: see who's been talking about it. All of that matters
Speaker 4: when you're trying to sway the narrative to people, and
Speaker 4: we're trying to turn people on each other, and you're
Speaker 4: trying to create chaos within a country and keep them
Speaker 4: destabilized and keep them fighting each other.
Speaker 5: I mean, the.
Speaker 4: Whole thing with the isis thing right, or the isis thing,
Speaker 4: the ice thing, Like, that's just an example because you
Speaker 4: have so much polarizing viewpoints. Right now, you have four
Speaker 4: different camera angles that have come out as of a
Speaker 4: few hours ago. Everyone is talking about it from different perspectives.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of.
Speaker 4: Them are being pushed and funneled more than other ones.
Speaker 4: Other ones are being It's just it just depends on
Speaker 4: your algorithm. And because I have multiple accounts that I
Speaker 4: purposely follow different things on each account, I'm seeing different
Speaker 4: stuff consistently being pumped on those accounts. And then I
Speaker 4: read the comments. I know you're not a comment person,
Speaker 4: but I love reading all the comments because I see
Speaker 4: we're kind of people. At least in the comment section,
Speaker 4: you can kind of gauge how people are responding, reacting,
Speaker 4: and what's kind of going on with that. And I
Speaker 4: think all of that information will be used against the
Speaker 4: American people.
Speaker 2: Right and let's talk about the Ice situation for a second,
Speaker 2: not the big one that everybody's talking about right now,
Speaker 2: or the quote unquote big one from last week when
Speaker 2: that woman tried running over an ICE agent. Okay, My
Speaker 2: point is there are thousands of arrests being made right now,
Speaker 2: and yes, you want to argue about how some of
Speaker 2: them might be you know, somebody's mama that they picked
Speaker 2: up at her place of business and all this. Never
Speaker 2: mind the gang members, never mind the cartel affiliates and
Speaker 2: all of these other people that are being snatched up
Speaker 2: and sent back home. What we need to talk about
Speaker 2: is what's going down in Minnesota. Never mind all the
Speaker 2: Somalian shit that was going on there that we just
Speaker 2: did an episode on, right.
Speaker 4: It's still going on. Actually, so much more has been
Speaker 4: happening with that.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But that's my point, Raven.
Speaker 2: No one's talking about that because we need to talk
Speaker 2: about these people getting killed by ICE agents because Ice
Speaker 2: is mean.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, there's lots of that. There's lots of
Speaker 4: stuff going on with that, though I really I don't know.
Speaker 4: I have my own opinion about some of that, but
Speaker 4: I think that it's it's it's classic though that that's
Speaker 4: why they did all the studies and everything in the
Speaker 4: fifties and the forties to be able to figure out how.
Speaker 5: To change the narrative. It's the same thing.
Speaker 4: But what they did though to create this whole black
Speaker 4: is bad thing and how they use that for so long,
Speaker 4: and there's the Harvard study on it and everything.
Speaker 5: It's all been used against us. This is no different.
Speaker 4: It just has a prettier bow on it because now
Speaker 4: you have like dancing memes and like you know, cat videos.
Speaker 3: That's it's all whatever.
Speaker 4: So oh yeah, I mean, but that's the thing, though,
Speaker 4: is you can see something on TikTok where it's like
Speaker 4: the world is burning, and then the next video it's
Speaker 4: like yay, And then you know, you're up and down,
Speaker 4: up and down.
Speaker 5: Your dopemins are.
Speaker 4: High, and then they dump and then you're depressed because
Speaker 4: you're watching this, So you don't want to watch that anymore.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna doom scroll and you're gonna keep doom scrolling.
Speaker 5: And fine things that make you happy or make you numb,
Speaker 5: or you just don't care.
Speaker 4: You're just watching it to watch it the filler stuff
Speaker 4: instead of really paying attention or if you go down
Speaker 4: these rabbit holes, then you get sucked in, and then
Speaker 4: you get so depressed that you don't want to come
Speaker 4: up for you air, and then you go like all
Speaker 4: of it is crazy, how it's impacting us as a
Speaker 4: whole exact, and how they're going to use this information
Speaker 4: against us. And I think that this is going to
Speaker 4: be the way that they get people to sign up
Speaker 4: for the fifteen minute cities, the way that they get
Speaker 4: people to have a chip s embedded in them, to
Speaker 4: get people to sign up for you know, wearing these
Speaker 4: the oculus, except now the oculus becomes your daily thing,
Speaker 4: where like, hey, you don't have to leave your house,
Speaker 4: you can just do this, like.
Speaker 3: You know, no, I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And for the record, I'm not trying to open an
Speaker 2: ice debate with our comments.
Speaker 3: Sectionary of these things.
Speaker 2: Listen, like them, hate them, whatever the point is, they
Speaker 2: are diverting your attention away from where it should be.
Speaker 2: I am not saying that there is not wrongful killings
Speaker 2: that take place by federal agents and your local law
Speaker 2: enforcement from time to time. This definitely takes place, but
Speaker 2: it's the same conversation as George Floyd, Right, They were
Speaker 2: trying to push that so hard that you didn't pay
Speaker 2: attention to anything else. Next thing, you know, all cops
Speaker 2: are bastards. We need to protest the police. We need
Speaker 2: to have all these riots and all this shit. Meanwhile
Speaker 2: the police, thousands of things can take place in a
Speaker 2: day to day basis of good things. A police officers
Speaker 2: doing really good jobs. But you're not seeing that. You're
Speaker 2: seeing the out in Sterling. You're seeing the Brianna excuse me,
Speaker 2: Brianna Lynch I think her name was. You're looking at
Speaker 2: the the George Floyd's. You're looking at these things because
Speaker 2: that's what the algorithm is going to consistently push in
Speaker 2: your face.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 2: The algorithm is pushing these ice agents that did that
Speaker 2: to that woman and did that to.
Speaker 4: This There's a lot of I mean, the conversation though,
Speaker 4: should be had when it comes to over excessive force
Speaker 4: and things that are happening. Sure, you know, there's there's
Speaker 4: a lot of things that should More training should take
Speaker 4: place with law enforcement and things like that so that
Speaker 4: way we're not having jumping the gun and like you know,
Speaker 4: being able to detain people without killing them and doing
Speaker 4: different things like that. I think there's at least there
Speaker 4: is room to have these conversations. Sure, but to your point,
Speaker 4: there's so much other things that, so many other things
Speaker 4: that are happening right now that should be allowed to
Speaker 4: be on the same table as talking points of like, hey,
Speaker 4: all of these things matter, not just one central thing.
Speaker 4: Let's push this, let's push this, let's not talk about
Speaker 4: anything else behind here, about what's actually happening, and like,
Speaker 4: what's really going on globally? We need to just focus
Speaker 4: on one one topic. But then give it like a week,
Speaker 4: and something else will happen, and then American people will
Speaker 4: shift their attention to something else. And like it's just
Speaker 4: it's consistent back and forth to where you can't come
Speaker 4: up for air. You're always your head's always being held
Speaker 4: down under the water, so there's no coming up from
Speaker 4: air trying to get a break, trying to figure out, like,
Speaker 4: you know, okay, what is really going on, what should
Speaker 4: we really be focusing on, And then if you do,
Speaker 4: then you look like a conspiracy theorist, and.
Speaker 5: You know, that's just so bad, and it's like.
Speaker 4: Okay, even I saw I saw a model tonight. Actually
Speaker 4: he's like a really famous model that in he's I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 5: He's he's really popular, has like millions of followers. He
Speaker 5: just did a video though of him and his buddy
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 4: Car and he's like he's like, oh yeah, so you
Speaker 4: know the world ran by like these lizard people and
Speaker 4: like there it's all one world, you know, New World Order,
Speaker 4: and like everything's corrupt and like goes on this whole
Speaker 4: terror really quick of like a thirty sex and sex
Speaker 4: and thirty second synapsis of everything that's happening, and he's like,
Speaker 4: but hey, it's nothing to worry about and kind of
Speaker 4: gives you a look and it's like, okay, so a
Speaker 4: model that's like in his twenties is saying this, and
Speaker 4: like he has millions of followers.
Speaker 5: Maybe that will actually reach people.
Speaker 4: But even then, it's like people are waking up, but
Speaker 4: also not waking up. It's right, It's it's really weird
Speaker 4: how that keeps happening.
Speaker 2: But that's that's the point, right, And again to circle
Speaker 2: back soda, what we should be focused on right now
Speaker 2: is the massive amount of money that has been sent
Speaker 2: to terrorist organizations from our tax dollars. But we're more
Speaker 2: focused on a killing one dude. Never mind the terrorist
Speaker 2: organization and how many people they've killed, right, never mind
Speaker 2: the genocide that is going on in Africa right now
Speaker 2: against Christians by this very, very same organization that has
Speaker 2: been funded by our tax dollars backdoor through these Somalis
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. We need to worry about this one white guy.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that we should detract from that.
Speaker 2: It is something we need to look into one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: The algorithm is pushing everybody in a certain direction, and
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that was the CCP's fault. I'm
Speaker 2: saying that the CCP up until now, has been using
Speaker 2: it to do it to their benefit. So now the
Speaker 2: US government is going to be using it for their
Speaker 2: benefit because Oracle is inherently tied to the United States government.
Speaker 2: And again I'm not saying you think.
Speaker 4: They're gonna censor us like they do everywhere else, but
Speaker 4: they're going to be more strategic about it, more quiet,
Speaker 4: so that way you can't really understand that you're being
Speaker 4: censored as much.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna take time to let that snowball
Speaker 2: take shape, but I absolutely believe that that's the overall goal.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Freedom of speech has been an inherently American thing. A
Speaker 2: lot of countries don't have that. We make the joke
Speaker 2: about anything within the British Commonwealth not having the freedom
Speaker 2: of speech. Most countries do not have freedom of speech
Speaker 2: to the level that we do. And I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people will argue me about that. No, it's
Speaker 2: this hit and a hypothetical. They may have a version
Speaker 2: of it, but it's not to the same scope as
Speaker 2: the American people have freedom of speech.
Speaker 3: I think that the powers that be see that as
Speaker 3: a problem because.
Speaker 5: You're gonna start taking it away.
Speaker 2: Yes, information has power, right, even Tucker Carlson talking nonsense, right,
Speaker 2: he has the freedom to do so. Aoc any of
Speaker 2: our politicians whatever, They had the freedom to get on
Speaker 2: the mic and say whatever ridiculous things they want to say. True, false,
Speaker 2: completely made up, completely, fact check doesn't matter. They had
Speaker 2: the freedom to say it. And I agree with that. However,
Speaker 2: I think that the powers that be recognize the risk
Speaker 2: associated with that. One hundred years ago, you didn't have
Speaker 2: the same reach that you have today. You had the radio,
Speaker 2: and then the television came along and like that was it.
Speaker 2: That was the end all be all of the reach
Speaker 2: that somebody could have, and if you didn't like somebody,
Speaker 2: you just blackball them from that industry, whether it was
Speaker 2: from Hollywood, whether it was from the media, whatever the
Speaker 2: case is. They're on their ass and you never had
Speaker 2: to worry about them going to the papers and going
Speaker 2: viral over saying some wild shit because they've been ousted.
Speaker 2: These days, everybody has in their pockets right now a
Speaker 2: professional grade camera, a professional audio recording device, and the
Speaker 2: access to the Internet to where anything can go viral
Speaker 2: in a matter of minutes. And I think that the
Speaker 2: powers that be recognized that. One hundred years ago, they
Speaker 2: didn't account for that. Two hundred years ago, they didn't
Speaker 2: account for that, And I think that they are gonna
Speaker 2: start trying to course correct now. I personally think that
Speaker 2: Oracle is gonna be the thing that starts slowly but
Speaker 2: surely whittling away at our free speech. And even if
Speaker 2: they don't take away your freedom to say whatever you
Speaker 2: want and post whatever you want or whatever, they'll shadow
Speaker 2: ban you to where yeah, you could say it, nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna see it, nobody's gonna hear it, but you could
Speaker 2: sure enough say it all you want, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: start like that next thing you know, there's.
Speaker 5: Certain they're gonna take it.
Speaker 2: There are certain language that they're gonna say is too
Speaker 2: inflammatory or too unsafe, and then they're gonna start taking
Speaker 2: it a little bit more and a little bit more.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing as a weapon with a magazine capacity.
Speaker 2: I think that's direction it's going. So again, circling back
Speaker 2: to Brian macbeth, I don't always agree with his statements. However,
Speaker 2: I do think that he was pretty on the money
Speaker 2: when it comes to this one.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I believe that China has been using TikTok as an
Speaker 2: information loop, not to persuade the American people, but more
Speaker 2: or less to see what does and does not work
Speaker 2: to win the hearts and minds of two thirds of
Speaker 2: the American population.
Speaker 3: I think that that's absolutely been the point.
Speaker 2: So, now that it is only twenty percent owned by China,
Speaker 2: and you know sixty five or sorry, forty five percent
Speaker 2: of it is going to be owned by these three groups,
Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit more about this. This article
Speaker 2: is from Business Insider. What we know about who is
Speaker 2: buying TikTok's US businesses, let's get straight into it here.
Speaker 2: So we already talked about how they announced that who's
Speaker 2: buying it ByteDance is going to maintain nineteen point nine
Speaker 2: minority stake, the maximum allowed by the divest or ban
Speaker 2: law that spurred TikTok sale. The remaining thirty five point
Speaker 2: one percent will be controlled by a consortium ove investors,
Speaker 2: including affiliates of some existing Byteedance investors.
Speaker 3: So some of these.
Speaker 2: Investors are already investors in byte Dance, So it's a
Speaker 2: backdoor kind of deal, if you will. So some of
Speaker 2: the individuals are also getting a piece of TikTok Us,
Speaker 2: including the family office of Michael Dell, the founder of
Speaker 2: Dell Technologies. We talked about that it's approaching a seven
Speaker 2: person board of directors. We already read down the list
Speaker 2: of who these people are. The company did not provide
Speaker 2: a valuation for the joint venture in its announcement. The
Speaker 2: Trump administration said in September that the entity was worth
Speaker 2: around fourteen billion dollars. The goal for the new venture
Speaker 2: is to secure US data trust and safety and content moderation. Again,
Speaker 2: this is what we're talking about here. It's going to
Speaker 2: start in a very slow safety type of way until
Speaker 2: the point to where it's fully just trying to protect
Speaker 2: quote unquote more accurate would say, control what you see
Speaker 2: and how long you see it in all these things
Speaker 2: Byte Dance. Meanwhile, we'll continue to oversee key commercial areas
Speaker 2: like e commerce, advertising and marketing. So China is still
Speaker 2: going to make their money off of it, whether they
Speaker 2: can or can't control the algorithm. They're still making the
Speaker 2: commercial revenues on it. They're still making the ad revenues.
Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about this here. Larry
Speaker 2: Ellison's Oracle will have a fifteen percent stake in the
Speaker 2: new joint venture. On screen right now is Larry Ellison.
Speaker 2: People have probably seen his face before.
Speaker 5: He is a interesting looking individual.
Speaker 2: He is one of the most human beings that's ever been.
Speaker 2: Like those dead ass eyes, Like he's like.
Speaker 5: Who is his name? York? What's his name? He was?
Speaker 4: He's a famous actor that screwed up his face big
Speaker 4: time by all the filler and all that.
Speaker 5: Mickey Roork Yeah, Mickey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mickey Rourke.
Speaker 5: He looks like him. He's like he got even worse
Speaker 5: with all the filler and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see it, and I mean you can see
Speaker 2: yet now when you go back to, oh shit, what
Speaker 2: was what was the movie.
Speaker 3: Harley Davidson, not the sun Dance kid.
Speaker 5: Before he starts screwing up his face that bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you look at him in what was
Speaker 3: that movie? He was in the Last Saw not Expendables
Speaker 3: maybe it was.
Speaker 5: No, he was with He's in the Iron Man movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the dude with the whips. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you see the transition to goddamn. Oh Harley Davidson, the
Speaker 2: Marlborough Man, that old movie from the eighties, which is a.
Speaker 3: Very nineteen eighties movie. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: You look at that guy and then cut to the
Speaker 2: guy in the second Iron Man movie.
Speaker 3: It's like bro bro. But I mean the same could
Speaker 3: be said for old sly.
Speaker 2: You look at the dude from Rocky and then you
Speaker 2: look at the guy from well Rocky five and it's
Speaker 2: uh or Rambo where he went to Asia and shit,
Speaker 2: it's like bro, y'all you should have stopped at the
Speaker 2: plastic surgery.
Speaker 3: I just never did it, Like you should have just
Speaker 3: never did that. But whatever.
Speaker 5: Anyway, fucking love Rambow. I was just thinking about watching
Speaker 5: that the other.
Speaker 3: Day, the original Oh yeah, Oh, it's phenomenal.
Speaker 5: It is. It's one of the best.
Speaker 3: Anyway. Software Giant go ahead.
Speaker 5: Oh I said it. Anyways, back to this guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, back to this dude.
Speaker 2: So software giant Oracle will take a fifteen percent stake
Speaker 2: in TikTok's US joint venture. Kenneth Gluick and AVP at Oracle,
Speaker 2: who advised the company CEO, would join the board of directors.
Speaker 3: Prior to the.
Speaker 2: Joint venture deal, Oracle was already working closely with TikTok's
Speaker 2: US data security division. The company has stored US TikTok
Speaker 2: users data for years. Oracle has already been storing the
Speaker 2: TikTok user data for years.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Larry Ellison, who is also a financial participant in a
Speaker 2: bidding war for Warner Bros. Uh Discovery business, is the
Speaker 2: chairman and co founder of Oracle and a longtime Trump ally.
Speaker 3: So again this Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oracle, which currently works with Talk on data security, is
Speaker 2: expected to remain it's trusted security partner task with safeguarding
Speaker 2: sensitives US user data. TikTok's new US owner will retrain
Speaker 2: retrain the content recommendation algorithm on US user data. So basically,
Speaker 2: anything that you have had on your TikTok feed up
Speaker 2: until now, it's going and wipe that slate clean. It's
Speaker 2: gonna get reworked, it's gonna get retrained. So that's fun,
Speaker 2: and that's so fun. Orcle did not immediately respond to
Speaker 2: a request for comment.
Speaker 3: Shocker.
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi's mg X is one of the three managing
Speaker 2: investors taking over TikTok us. So on screen right now
Speaker 2: is all US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the
Speaker 2: mg X chairman, Sheik Tannun ben Zaid al Nayan. So
Speaker 2: this is the I'm telling you. This is the chairman
Speaker 2: of the the uae AI company sitting next to our
Speaker 2: Secretary of State.
Speaker 3: Let's read into this.
Speaker 2: MGX is a state owned investment firm in Abu Dhabi.
Speaker 2: It will also have fifteen percent stake in the new
Speaker 2: TikTok entity. Is one of the three managing investors. The
Speaker 2: firm is focused on AI. So for anybody who is
Speaker 2: out there watching TikTok hoping that maybe there'd be a
Speaker 2: little bit more authentic TikTok content, now I just expect
Speaker 2: a lot more AI, which I gotta be honest, I
Speaker 2: have been expecting for a while.
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was gonna come in this form, but.
Speaker 2: Okay, I believe that TikTok is going to become nothing
Speaker 2: but Ai, AI videos, AI clips, AI voices, and then
Speaker 2: there's gonna be another social media platform where it's going
Speaker 2: to be no Ai whatsoever.
Speaker 3: And I think that because that's how it's gonna work.
Speaker 2: The algorithm is gonna tool everything to you as an
Speaker 2: individual to the point where everything is fake, nothing is
Speaker 2: real anymore, and then people are gonna be screaming for
Speaker 2: authenticity that they're actually gonna have to go towards a
Speaker 2: different app to just get unadulterated, pure.
Speaker 3: Free from Ai.
Speaker 4: AI is so scary now though that you can't even
Speaker 4: hardly tell some of the stuff. Some of it obviously
Speaker 4: it's like outlandition, ridiculous, but yeah, some of it you.
Speaker 5: Can't even tell that it's Ai at all.
Speaker 4: I was watching a content creator that got she discovered
Speaker 4: that her video was completely changed. So AI took her
Speaker 4: original video, created a whole new face and changed a
Speaker 4: few of her body because she like dances in a
Speaker 4: gas station or something like that, and completely changed like
Speaker 4: who she was.
Speaker 5: But it's her video.
Speaker 4: It's just overlapped with like a new face on it
Speaker 4: pretty much. Yeah, and changed like the body a little
Speaker 4: bit and She's like, this is literally my video to
Speaker 4: the tea.
Speaker 5: Couldn't tell that it was not a real person at all.
Speaker 5: It was so good.
Speaker 3: It's getting to that point and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's continue on here, it says Sheikh Tahune,
Speaker 2: I'm not rereading his name.
Speaker 3: A member of Abu Dhabi's royal ruling family, is the
Speaker 3: firm's chairman.
Speaker 2: The fund participated in open AI's six point six billion
Speaker 2: dollar investment round in twenty twenty four. David Scott, mgx's
Speaker 2: chief strategy and safety officer, will serve on the joint
Speaker 2: venture Board of directors and Security Committee. According to TikTok's
Speaker 2: blog post announcing the joint venture, MGX also did not
Speaker 2: respond for comment.
Speaker 3: Shocker.
Speaker 2: So now let's talk about the private equity firm silver Lake,
Speaker 2: who will also hold a fifteen percent stake. Silver Lake
Speaker 2: is a tech focused private equity firm. Its current investments
Speaker 2: include Klarna, Karta, Dell Technologies, Genesis or I'm sorry, Genies,
Speaker 2: and Waimo. Per the firm's website. Previously investments included Airbnb, Twitter,
Speaker 2: and Tesla. So all right, again, if we're talking about
Speaker 2: how the connection to money and AI and all these
Speaker 2: things are connected. This company also is an investor of
Speaker 2: Klarna and Karta, which people really need to be wary of.
Speaker 2: We've talked about that at length Dell Technologies. Never mind
Speaker 2: the fact that the Dell company themselves also have bought
Speaker 2: in on this.
Speaker 5: It's thirty percent they own.
Speaker 2: There's another backdoors type of venture here. You know, they
Speaker 2: got a little bit here, they got a little bit there.
Speaker 2: They're like Charlie Sheen, they're by winning. I went here,
Speaker 2: and I win there.
Speaker 4: If Dell owns fifteen percent, and then these people own
Speaker 4: fifteen percent and could potentially gift if they wanted to
Speaker 4: the Dell company their shares in this. You see it
Speaker 4: so that I mean Dell owns thirty percent of it,
Speaker 4: like it's and what they're doing and everything else that Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just it's just.
Speaker 4: Treating you know, one bad partner for another bad partner
Speaker 4: kind of a thing.
Speaker 3: It's right.
Speaker 5: I think that's going to be the same thing.
Speaker 4: Just this is going to start censoring us even more
Speaker 4: on what we can say.
Speaker 2: Percent agree. So, and that's what I was saying earlier.
Speaker 2: I am happy that China just lost their information loop.
Speaker 2: I am unhappy that they lost them to these people,
Speaker 2: these entities who are then going to use that information
Speaker 2: loop to hurt us. Now it's just going to be
Speaker 2: in house. But that's just the way of the Internet
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. So now let's talk about
Speaker 2: this one. Michael Dell's family office is one of several
Speaker 2: new investors. As we just talked about one way, Dell
Speaker 2: just bought in on some of this. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: the direct line here. So Dell Technologies founder Michael Dell
Speaker 2: has also involved in the deal. His office is one
Speaker 2: of several new investors in TikTok. In September, Trump said
Speaker 2: Dell would be involved in the deal. They didn't talk
Speaker 2: about percentages on this article, but there we go. Seven
Speaker 2: other investors will be part of the consortium. In addition
Speaker 2: to Michael Dell's family office, TikTok named several other.
Speaker 3: Several other.
Speaker 2: Jesus several other investors as being part of the joint venture.
Speaker 2: Some retired to existing Byte Dance investors, such as Vasmir
Speaker 2: Strategic Investments and an affiliate of the Susquehanna International Group.
Speaker 2: So we just talked about Vasmir Revolution is an investment
Speaker 2: firm where president JD. Vance previously worked, so jd Vance
Speaker 2: the vice president, I should say, Revolution is an investment.
Speaker 3: Firm where jd Vance used to work. Now we're tying
Speaker 3: in Peter Thiel. But okay.
Speaker 2: Merit Way, which is controlled and managed by partners of
Speaker 2: the investment group Dragonear Dragoneir, previously invested in byte Dance,
Speaker 2: so again it's still a connection to byte Dance via
Speaker 2: Nova is an affiliate of existing Byte Dance investor, General Atlantic,
Speaker 2: another connection of the Byte Dance. Either way it goes,
Speaker 2: these people are all connected, whether it's upfront or back door.
Speaker 3: But it's all within the works. It's all still within
Speaker 3: the family, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Virgo Lee, an investment arm of the Foundation established by
Speaker 2: Russian born Israeli tech entrepreneur investor Yurie alongside his wife
Speaker 2: Julia Miller or Milner found a DST Global, a Byte
Speaker 2: Dance investor, So.
Speaker 5: That must be a different one that I found. There's
Speaker 5: like four of them with that same name. So this
Speaker 5: is really all the g I tracked. I retract all
Speaker 5: the GI things.
Speaker 4: I guess they got the wrong company because when I
Speaker 4: looked it up, it said TikTok and it said that
Speaker 4: one in particular.
Speaker 3: Now they may have done that too.
Speaker 2: They may be using AI to do things in the
Speaker 2: medical field with GI tracking and all this.
Speaker 3: That could be the very same breath.
Speaker 4: They might be because it said it said GI, it
Speaker 4: said TikTok and then their names.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't see why not, but
Speaker 3: because that's the same thing.
Speaker 2: Or over here we're talking about investment groups, and we're
Speaker 2: talking about in the same conversation we're talking about AI groups.
Speaker 2: In the same conversation we're talking about Warner, We're talking
Speaker 2: about WAIM the car company.
Speaker 3: Right where all.
Speaker 2: These things shouldn't be tied together, but they are because
Speaker 2: of these individuals that.
Speaker 3: Are now all owners to a portion.
Speaker 2: Of TikTok h Yeah, JJ Capitol, the family office of
Speaker 2: Javier Neil, a French billionaire who sits on Byte Dance's
Speaker 2: board of directors. So although it may look like, oh,
Speaker 2: this French guy just bought a little bit with his company, no, no,
Speaker 2: he's still a part of Byte Dance. So either way
Speaker 2: it goes, whether it's six in one hand or a
Speaker 2: half dozen in this hand, it's the same fucking thing.
Speaker 2: Moving on, Alpha Wave Partners, an investment firm headquartered in
Speaker 2: New York that has invested in companies like SpaceX, Open Ai,
Speaker 2: and mister Beast's Beast Industries. Again, the connections are all together.
Speaker 2: Remember earlier we're talk about SpaceX right here up here,
Speaker 2: this group was involved with an investment in Tesla. Where's
Speaker 2: it at? We just read it a second ago, Dell
Speaker 2: Technologies AIRBBN Tesla. No, no, no, that was a sorry, that
Speaker 2: was silver Lake. So Silverlake was invested in Tesla. And
Speaker 2: now this other group that is invested in SpaceX. Now
Speaker 2: both of them have some sort of a stake in
Speaker 2: the TikTok conversation. So we already talked about how by dance, Well,
Speaker 2: I have nineteen point nine percent of the venture and
Speaker 2: basically they're not having anything as far as the algorithm.
Speaker 2: They're just making straight at revenues handover fist. So anyway,
Speaker 2: this is another article I pulled up on da TV
Speaker 2: China clears TikTok you has deal with Oracle and silver Lake.
Speaker 2: We've already talked about these things. I get it cool,
Speaker 2: cool cool. Now, with that all being said, Oracle slumps
Speaker 2: as gloomy forecast soaring spending, fan AI bubble worries.
Speaker 3: So This was in December of last year. I remember
Speaker 3: we talked about.
Speaker 2: That Oracle had a bubble, so to speak, as far
Speaker 2: as their stocks were concerned, and it burst right around
Speaker 2: the time when this venture was taking off.
Speaker 3: Very interesting.
Speaker 2: So this is from Reuter's on December eleventh of last year,
Speaker 2: just over a month and a half ago. Oracle shares
Speaker 2: sank thirteen percent on Thursdays, sparking a tech selloff as
Speaker 2: the company's massive spending and weak forecast fan doubts over
Speaker 2: how quickly the big bets on AI will pay off.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious, and I did pull it up of
Speaker 2: what Oracle's current stock prices are, but we'll get to
Speaker 2: that in a moment. The disappointing predictions from the crucial
Speaker 2: OpenAI cloud computing partner shows the uneven returns from the
Speaker 2: nascent technologies that many business leaders believe is the future
Speaker 2: but has so far yielded limited productivity gains. Okay, so, Oracle,
Speaker 2: long a smaller cloud player, has vaulted into the artificial
Speaker 2: intelligence infrastructure race this year thanks to a three hundred
Speaker 2: billion open Ai deal three hundred billion dollars huge, but
Speaker 2: the pact has also tethered the company's fortunes to a
Speaker 2: chat GPT maker, with shares sliding into in recent weeks
Speaker 2: on concern Google is pulling ahead of Open Ai. Investors
Speaker 2: have also dumped Oracles bonds on worrying about its debt
Speaker 2: fueled AI buildout, while pilling it or piling into credit
Speaker 2: default swaps that offer boundholders a hedge against default CDs,
Speaker 2: which is the credit default swaps for the company, which
Speaker 2: has around one hundred billion dollars in debt, rose nearly
Speaker 2: twelve basis points on Thursday to at least a five
Speaker 2: year high. Okay, So with that being said, big text
Speaker 2: rising appetite for debt, including bond sales of more than
Speaker 2: thirty billion dollars by Meta fifteen billion dollars from Amazon
Speaker 2: dot Com right, has marked a departure for the companies
Speaker 2: that long depended on strong cash flows to fund spending
Speaker 2: on new initiatives. Tech executives has said the outlays are
Speaker 2: necessary for a technology that will transform work and make
Speaker 2: businesses more efficient, arguing the bigger risk is under investing,
Speaker 2: but not overspending. So all right over here, we're seeing
Speaker 2: that the stock jumped after Oracle reports a four hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty five billion dollars in booked revenue. And this
Speaker 2: was in September of twenty twenty five. That was the
Speaker 2: giant jump. Then it dropped down in December, okay, And
Speaker 2: I don't know what it finally ended up at, but
Speaker 2: I will say that as of right now, Oracle is
Speaker 2: at one hundred and eighty two dollars and forty four
Speaker 2: cents per share.
Speaker 3: At the end of the business day today.
Speaker 2: Now, if we look at a six month grouping here,
Speaker 2: it was on the way down.
Speaker 3: I have a weird feeling, have a very very weird feeling.
Speaker 2: And again we're looking at this high over here in
Speaker 2: September of three twenty eight, actually it was like four
Speaker 2: hundred over here.
Speaker 3: Actually, not mistake.
Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of information about them dumping the stocks.
Speaker 4: They pretty much were selling out before the bubble popped,
Speaker 4: exactly it came to Oracle, and so they've been dumping
Speaker 4: the stocks the billionaires have.
Speaker 2: And now that Oracle just bought a chunk of TikTok,
Speaker 2: I have a weird feeling that that shit is about
Speaker 2: to skyrocket.
Speaker 4: I don't know, actually, to be honest with you, I've
Speaker 4: read all sorts of different stuffs about it, about it.
Speaker 4: But I'm not really good with stock market stuff.
Speaker 3: I'll put it like this. I'll put it like this.
Speaker 2: Oracle just bought fifteen percent of a company that is
Speaker 2: used by two thirds of the entire American population.
Speaker 3: That's I don't even know how else to come.
Speaker 4: I had some extra change. I should throw some some
Speaker 4: money on Oracle. Yeah, I know how you really do stocks?
Speaker 4: Be honest with you. I actually have a buddy of mine.
Speaker 4: I have a few. One of them did stocks in
Speaker 4: the Marine Corps and actually made all of his money
Speaker 4: in Afghanistan.
Speaker 5: So he was set up.
Speaker 4: To buy a house, buy a car, and all this
Speaker 4: stuff when he got back cash free.
Speaker 5: I'm in cash free in cash.
Speaker 3: I believe it.
Speaker 2: If you know what to do with it, and you
Speaker 2: know how to watch the trends and no when's a
Speaker 2: good time to buy and a good time to selling
Speaker 2: all of these things, then that's like that is the thing,
Speaker 2: And I get it.
Speaker 5: But I am so understood.
Speaker 2: I I have dabbled with it before, but I am
Speaker 2: so famously bad at gambling that pretty much. Even name
Speaker 2: the biggest stock you could think of, Google, It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if Jacob puts in one dollar the stock is
Speaker 2: going to tank. It's if anything, y'all should be taking
Speaker 2: bets against whatever the fuck I invest with. Actually, I
Speaker 2: might help the people out just to let the whole
Speaker 2: world know what's going on. But beside the point, Oracle
Speaker 2: is now making this kind of a play, and it
Speaker 2: just took effect this past week. So I have a
Speaker 2: weird feeling I could be wrong here that, yeah, they
Speaker 2: let the stock tank to get a lower evaluation because
Speaker 2: now all the big time investors are about to buy
Speaker 2: it all up for pennies on the dollar for what
Speaker 2: it used to be, and.
Speaker 3: This is about to see a massive sore.
Speaker 2: Especially once they start formulating the algorithms for all the
Speaker 2: American people. Yeah, I could, I absolutely cold see that
Speaker 2: being the way. But I also find it interesting tie
Speaker 2: all of this together with the fact that China's military
Speaker 2: says that the top general undermines Jijupping's authority.
Speaker 3: China just had a coup attempt. This realistically just happened.
Speaker 2: As much as people want to say that the Chinese
Speaker 2: people love Ji and all these things all evidence to
Speaker 2: the contrary. This was essentially his chairman of the Joint
Speaker 2: Chiefs that tried to depose him.
Speaker 3: Essentially, I don't.
Speaker 4: Can't believe that they actually had that happen. Sorry my
Speaker 4: audio cutout for a second.
Speaker 3: No, so let's read this article here.
Speaker 2: This is from FT dot com and I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: a whole spread on this one on the Cajun Night,
Speaker 2: I'm sure. So if you're listening to this on Friday,
Speaker 2: my spiel on this came out yesterday as of you
Speaker 2: know whatever. Anyway, China's military has accused its top general
Speaker 2: of undermining the command authority of Jijiping, suggesting that ensuring
Speaker 2: the powers of the Chinese leader is behind a probe
Speaker 2: of Jiang Watsia I don't know how to pronounce Chinese words,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, announced on Saturday, rather than just charges of corruption.
Speaker 2: So he's basically saying that, yeah, the corruption is so bad,
Speaker 2: but that's not even the point. It's all facade, y'all.
Speaker 2: So saying the vice chair of the Central Military Commission,
Speaker 2: excuse me, and I'm not going to pronounce that name either.
Speaker 2: Another CMC member, Chinese Military Command member and the People's
Speaker 2: Liberation Armies chief of Staff had severely trampled on and
Speaker 2: damaged the chairman responsibility system. The military official newspaper PLA
Speaker 2: Daily said in an editorial published on Sunday. Under the
Speaker 2: Chinese Constitution, the leader of the State and the Chinese
Speaker 2: Communist Party chairs the CMC, and his has supreme decision
Speaker 2: making power over the military. This quote unquote chairman responsibility
Speaker 2: system is designed to secure the party's absolute control over
Speaker 2: the armed forces. The PLA Mouthpieces editorial said that the
Speaker 2: two generals had seriously abetted political and corruption problems that
Speaker 2: affect the Communist Party's absolute leadership over the military and
Speaker 2: endanger the foundation of the party's rule. They straight up
Speaker 2: called alj The comments highlight the crucial importance of the
Speaker 2: PLA Forji in his expected quest for a fourth term,
Speaker 2: which the party would have to confirm at its next congress,
Speaker 2: due in twenty twenty seven. Since the party sees power
Speaker 2: through the Civil War and most of its founders fought
Speaker 2: in those battles, it regards control over the armed forces
Speaker 2: as indispensable. The military is the only organization in China
Speaker 2: that has a history of defying party leaders, said Dennis Wilder,
Speaker 2: an expert on the Chinese military and former head of
Speaker 2: Chinese Analysis at the CIA, citing criticism of Mao Zedong
Speaker 2: policies by then Defense Minister Paying De Howie, I don't know.
Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty nine and in nineteen seventy one alleged
Speaker 2: coup attempt against Mao by top general Lymbiao, Wilder said
Speaker 2: that after Zang had won a fight.
Speaker 3: With he We Dong. I don't know how to pronounce
Speaker 3: his names. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: The second vice CMC chair and a member of the
Speaker 2: rival faction who was purged last year. Ji probably feared
Speaker 2: that Zang, the dude who's in trouble now, was all
Speaker 2: powerful in the military. Presuming that Ji wants a fourth
Speaker 2: term in office, he would have to fear that Zhang
Speaker 2: would lead an effort within the party to oust him.
Speaker 2: So essentially, this guy started talking shit. Now, he was
Speaker 2: starting to sow the seeds of doubt. And he's gone.
Speaker 2: Now he's gone.
Speaker 3: Where is he?
Speaker 2: What happened to him? It's a great question. I'm sure
Speaker 2: that the uh yeah, probably probably yeah. So I think
Speaker 2: it's all very strategic. I think it all ties in
Speaker 2: on the geopolitical side of things when you look at Iran,
Speaker 2: China and Russia and how these three are always in
Speaker 2: the mix of some wild shit that's going on right now.
Speaker 2: Cut to all of them hade America to one degree
Speaker 2: or another. Okay, and China just lost their information feedback
Speaker 2: as far as TikTok is concerned. But now a group
Speaker 2: from the United Arab Emirates has bought this in so
Speaker 2: let's talk about this company here. So this is MGX,
Speaker 2: their AI group out of Abu dh This is their
Speaker 2: board of directors. His Highness chik to noun ben Zaid
Speaker 2: al Nayan, that's the dude that we just saw in
Speaker 2: the picture next to our Secretary of State. Now we
Speaker 2: go down the list. Everybody except for two dudes is
Speaker 2: of the royal family and you could tell that by
Speaker 2: the black bands they have on their head. This dude,
Speaker 2: which I think is very interesting, a Chinese guy. Member
Speaker 2: of the MGX press really weird. Oh yes, oh yes,
Speaker 2: so Pang Zhao Member of the MGX Board of Directors,
Speaker 2: Chairman of the MGX Board Executive Committee, Chairman of the
Speaker 2: MGX Nomination and Remuneration Committee, and member of the MGX
Speaker 2: Audit and Risk Committee. He is a global technology and
Speaker 2: business leader with a track record for building breakthrough products,
Speaker 2: delivering customer service, and achieving commercial results. As Group CEO
Speaker 2: of Abu Dhabi, based G four to two. Paying is
Speaker 2: responsible for crafting the group's business and product strategies and
Speaker 2: overseeing the operation operating companies across Numero ris and dust
Speaker 2: industry verticals which is a weird sentence, but okay, including
Speaker 2: smart city, healthcare, energy, finance, and education. This dude weird.
Speaker 2: This dude is in charge of a company whose big
Speaker 2: push number one is smart cities.
Speaker 5: I told you I brought them up for a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I'm raven. You're right as always here. The
Speaker 2: group has developed world class solutions in AI, big data, analytics,
Speaker 2: mobile technology, and cloud computing, and its offering or its
Speaker 2: offerings are delivered to a wide range of commercial and
Speaker 2: government clients.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so since.
Speaker 2: Previously a senior executive vice president, chief technology officer, and
Speaker 2: chief information technology officer excuse me of micro strategy, Paying
Speaker 2: spent a decade in the enterprise software industry, responsible for
Speaker 2: managing more than a one thousand engineers. Paying led the
Speaker 2: research and developed development of the company's entire product portfolio,
Speaker 2: including business intelligence, secure identity, and mobile commerce. So again,
Speaker 2: of the entire board of directors of this MGX group,
Speaker 2: we got that guy, and then this other dude, Mark
Speaker 2: Martin Edelman. Okay, let's read a little bit about him.
Speaker 2: Because of this group, there's two that stand out. The
Speaker 2: one from China clearly stands out. And then when you're
Speaker 2: reading about the smart cities and all of these things, it's.
Speaker 3: Like, that's that's not good. But okay.
Speaker 2: So Martin Edelman member of the MGX Board of Directors
Speaker 2: and member of the Nomination and Remuneration Committee. Martin Edelman
Speaker 2: has more than fifty years of legal experience in complex
Speaker 2: international transactions.
Speaker 3: The dude's a lawyer.
Speaker 2: He has been an advisor to business, corporate and national leadership,
Speaker 2: as well as participated in designing and negotiating resolutions of
Speaker 2: cross border disputes of various kinds. He was an advisor
Speaker 2: to Mabadala investment Company, Redbird, I am I and Fortune
Speaker 2: and it's general counsel of the G four to two,
Speaker 2: the same group that your boy Pang was a part of.
Speaker 2: So while Pang is about the computer things and the
Speaker 2: engineering things, this guy is about the legal things when
Speaker 2: it comes to smart cities, healthcare, AI, governance and these
Speaker 2: types of things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's wild, so shocked, right.
Speaker 2: So he is on the board of aldar Riot's a
Speaker 2: city Football Group, Equity Commonwealth, Jackie Robinson Foundation, Fallen Heroes Fund,
Speaker 2: and New York City Police Foundation.
Speaker 3: Hm hmm, so just little things, little things.
Speaker 5: Just has his hand in a couple of things, one
Speaker 5: or two.
Speaker 3: Just a few right now.
Speaker 2: This boy here, David Scott, he was brought up a
Speaker 2: couple of times and I thought, actually, real quick, I
Speaker 2: wanted to see if there was any more of these
Speaker 2: names that we should look into here. No, okay, cool,
Speaker 2: So let's read a little bit about your boy, David Scott.
Speaker 2: So he isn't a big one, he does. Lord David
Speaker 2: Scott is an expert in strategy formulation and implementation with
Speaker 2: an extensive track record of successful engagements involving multi billion
Speaker 2: dollar projects and ventures in both the public and private sectors.
Speaker 2: As Chief of the Strategy Function of NGX, he worked
Speaker 2: with the funds leadership and investment professionals to identify priority
Speaker 2: target themes and sectors for capital allocation, as well as
Speaker 2: the management of portfolio risk. As the Chief of the
Speaker 2: Safety Function, he oversees the development of safety related criteria
Speaker 2: to support the fund's diligence of investment opportunities. Recognizing the
Speaker 2: important safety and socioeconomic consequences of emerging AI technologies and applications.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a weird all right, sure sure.
Speaker 2: In prior roles, David had served as Executive Director for
Speaker 2: Economic and Energy Affairs at Abu Dhabi's Executive Affairs Authority.
Speaker 3: So this dude was a.
Speaker 2: Part of one of these big committees that talks about
Speaker 2: energy and economic affairs. Sure, all right, as a regional
Speaker 2: VP at Occidental Petroleum Corporation. Hey, I know Occidental, as
Speaker 2: the National Security Council's Direct Director for Arabian Peninsula and
Speaker 2: North African Affairs at the White House. He is also
Speaker 2: a former US Foreign Service officer and a veteran of
Speaker 2: the Army.
Speaker 3: Well there it is.
Speaker 2: Among other roles, David also serves as the managing director
Speaker 2: of the Mohammed ben Zaid Water Initiative and as a
Speaker 2: board member of the AI Infrastructure Partnership AIP, the Emirates
Speaker 2: Nuclear Energy Corporation, and Terror Power. He also serves on
Speaker 2: the advisory board of Yale University's Jackson School of Global Affairs. Wow,
Speaker 2: he is a graduate everywhere everywhere. He's a graduate of
Speaker 2: Brigham Young University. So maybe he's a Mountain Jew.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And the Defense Language Institute, as well as the US
Speaker 2: Army's Cryptala and Electronic Warfare School and Non Commissioned Officers Academy.
Speaker 2: So your boy was he was an Army soldier, right,
Speaker 2: it seems like enlisted at least Noncommissioned Officer Academy. But
Speaker 2: so that's his background, and that is gonna be one
Speaker 2: of the key players in TikTok.
Speaker 5: Now it's interesting that he works for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, nothing.
Speaker 3: To worry about.
Speaker 5: Nothing, nothing see here, keep going.
Speaker 2: I guess, well, this article is a little dated, actually,
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a little something
Speaker 2: more that we could look into. But anyway, so this
Speaker 2: is kind of the short and dirty of all of
Speaker 2: the things that are going on. As far as this
Speaker 2: TikTok buy out merger, whatever the hell you want to
Speaker 2: call it, I don't see it being intrinsically good for
Speaker 2: the American people. I do see it as better than
Speaker 2: CCP owning all of it. But it's not like the
Speaker 2: CCP's out of it either, No, they.
Speaker 5: Just have less.
Speaker 4: They're still there now. It's just kind of shifted hands.
Speaker 4: But it's one of those things though. They're all embedded
Speaker 4: with each other at this point. I don't think that
Speaker 4: there's I think that it's not even it's just a game,
Speaker 4: like it's a big show.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that they're all together on stuff and that
Speaker 4: some of this might be a pissing contest between certain people.
Speaker 5: But also I find it interesting though.
Speaker 4: That that an American veteran would work for that company,
Speaker 4: and that you know, just how everything's tied together with
Speaker 4: each company, and then Dell could potentially be owning like
Speaker 4: thirty percent of it. But I think it's all just
Speaker 4: you know, a big smoke smoke show and just everything
Speaker 4: just look over here, look over there, redirecting people and
Speaker 4: constant chaos.
Speaker 2: So I fully agree, and honestly, even with the army
Speaker 2: that that's working with Abu Dhabi's royal family in some
Speaker 2: very upper echelon ways, I get it. I personally know
Speaker 2: people that used to work in the intel field that now,
Speaker 2: oh my god, they if you can get in good
Speaker 2: with one of these rich Arab countries and like become
Speaker 2: one of their guys, sh you can recrite your own ticket.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm saying that,
Speaker 2: you know, money is the root of all evil. Well,
Speaker 2: the love of money is the root of all evil,
Speaker 2: and hey, if the price is right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, especially shit in the army or the military
Speaker 2: in general. Look, we know, look, we're all just whoores
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, well know, just about
Speaker 2: anything if the money's right, right, I mean, at least
Speaker 2: the vast majority of us, I get it.
Speaker 4: But I don't think I could personally work for specific
Speaker 4: nations and how they treat women and children.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no way. There's no amount of money.
Speaker 4: I don't think that I could accept for specific groups
Speaker 4: of individuals and how they treat people.
Speaker 2: So again, the UAE is a lot more liberal, a
Speaker 2: lot more progressive than a lot of their Muslim counterparts,
Speaker 2: Like you can drink in Abu Dhabi, are you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 8: They're not as bad, I'll say that, but they still
Speaker 8: have that uh, that surface, that layer if you will, that, Yeah,
Speaker 8: the human rights violations and yeah, the treatment of women.
Speaker 2: And listen, listen, have you seen their tech industry?
Speaker 3: Have you looked at their prices?
Speaker 5: It's one of those.
Speaker 4: Things, is like, you know, you got to draw a
Speaker 4: line somewhere, I guess, and that would be my line
Speaker 4: in the sand for me personally, so.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, But yeah, good cult members.
Speaker 2: We wanted to kind of give a little background to
Speaker 2: the whole TikTok buyout situation. We didn't lose the CCP,
Speaker 2: they just got a lesser portion of it. And now
Speaker 2: we have oracle that is going to be reformulating and retooling.
Speaker 3: All the algorithms to push forward whatever they want you
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 2: Whatever the AI governance propaganda wants you to see now
Speaker 2: more than ever before, is just being done by our
Speaker 2: government rather than their government. So if you want to
Speaker 2: call that the smallest of lower case ws, than fine,
Speaker 2: get it. I see it more like we just traded
Speaker 2: one slave master for another. And this slave master might
Speaker 2: speak the same language as us, but that's about the
Speaker 2: only connection I can find that's different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, speaking of TikTok, though, if you guys could
Speaker 4: go to our TikTok and please like, share, and comment
Speaker 4: to try to trick the algorithm back into letting us
Speaker 4: off of the shadow band, yeah, and to hopefully push
Speaker 4: the page more. We were trying to gain some momentum
Speaker 4: on TikTok just you know, be able to expand the
Speaker 4: listener biase and reach more people. And be able to
Speaker 4: find more content creators that are in this space is
Speaker 4: you know, with us and I was actually helping, and
Speaker 4: so we would like your help if you could just
Speaker 4: go and least, you know, help us in any way,
Speaker 4: alike a share a comment. The comments help a lot
Speaker 4: because they actually show engagement and we can like talk
Speaker 4: back and stuff, and so that seems to at least
Speaker 4: TikTok boost the algorithm. I don't know what new TikTok
Speaker 4: is going to look like, but just if you could,
Speaker 4: that'd be great.
Speaker 3: The more engagement it gets across the board, the better
Speaker 3: for everybody. I think. Anyway, I think that's still going
Speaker 3: to be the way the algorithm functions.
Speaker 4: So I have no idea right now, considering I've been
Speaker 4: looking at lots of really big content creators and they're
Speaker 4: all experiencing the same thing, which is really interesting because
Speaker 4: some of them don't have any political stuff whatsoever and
Speaker 4: they're being shadow band and it's just it looks like
Speaker 4: it's a blanket term right now. So just I don't know,
Speaker 4: help out the people that you want to see more
Speaker 4: of and hopefully we can figure this out. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not really tore up about TikTok because
Speaker 4: I've never cared about social media's but because this is
Speaker 4: our job and we do want to reach more people,
Speaker 4: and that's kind of how I found a Rise of
Speaker 4: Liberty podcast with TikTok, and I've been trying to find
Speaker 4: other content creators. So that's, on one hand, really good thing.
Speaker 4: But I definitely don't really like care that much about
Speaker 4: TikTok as my personal page. I'll it's like whatever.
Speaker 3: But now I'm with you. I just.
Speaker 2: It's more the same, right, And like you said, I
Speaker 2: think this is going to snowball into a freedom of
Speaker 2: speech situation.
Speaker 3: It starts small, you know, it starts small. It used
Speaker 3: to be.
Speaker 2: Hate speech was the big thing, right, and if you
Speaker 2: said anything of a certain political ideology, somebody would flag
Speaker 2: it as hate speech, and that that was the way
Speaker 2: it's going to be.
Speaker 3: That's about to go up a notch.
Speaker 5: I honest, information was the big one. Hate speech.
Speaker 4: Now a lot of people's, including ours, seem to be
Speaker 4: under review.
Speaker 5: So I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 4: Because I tried to find new I try to find
Speaker 4: the guidelines, and they haven't changed the guidelines technically, so
Speaker 4: depending but that means that we have to censor what
Speaker 4: we say, we have to censor what you write, so
Speaker 4: you have to censor what you tag yourself in. And
Speaker 4: it already has been kind of a game like that,
Speaker 4: but now I think it's just gonna pick up more
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna end up like the UK, where
Speaker 4: we have to watch what we say and how we
Speaker 4: say it, and we can't say certain things because you know,
Speaker 4: we might end up with cops at our door trying
Speaker 4: to arrest us. Yeah, and you know, it's just one
Speaker 4: little thing at a time, and that's how they get you,
Speaker 4: because you know, you're too busy focused on everything else
Speaker 4: that's happening, and you're not caring about your freedoms that
Speaker 4: are being taken away.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. And again, everybody, there
Speaker 2: are certain people that are super fucking stoked about this
Speaker 2: because you know, Trump's in charge right now, and he'll
Speaker 2: push the free speech and this, this and this and Okay, fine, fine,
Speaker 2: let's say that you are a die hard Trumper and
Speaker 2: everything this guy does is literally as if God himself
Speaker 2: said it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't agree with that, but fine, have your opinion,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: Understand that the next administration or the one after that.
Speaker 2: Whatever way this goes, the pendulum swings very hard both ways.
Speaker 2: Right now, the pendulum is on this side of the conversation.
Speaker 2: When that swings back, not if, but when that swings back,
Speaker 2: understand that now that administration will have the tools and
Speaker 2: the resources to use this app against its own people.
Speaker 2: That that's how this goes. The freedom of speech thing
Speaker 2: sounds great whenever it's your or or excuse me, the
Speaker 2: reduction of free speech, right if you're starting to cut
Speaker 2: out certain people who are saying things that you don't
Speaker 2: agree with, that sounds great whenever it's in favor of you,
Speaker 2: until four to eight to twenty years down the road
Speaker 2: when it's going back at you, and now that that's
Speaker 2: not so cool anymore. And this is it's all ties in, y'all,
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