Speaker 1: I looked at her. I was like, yeah, she's got
a father's nose.
Speaker 2: I mean, she does have rhinoplasti in the future. But
what's your name, Vaughan? Her name is Vaughan Levek.
Speaker 1: Well what's her name?
Speaker 2: Vaughan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they called her something else. It wasn't. Yeah, it's
a stage dan, like Vaughn Rocket Skates or something like,
you know, they gave her like a stage name. Well
that was Stopphire.
Speaker 3: That to me was the funniest part where she came
out and started singing and I didn't I didn't recognize
her at first, but then I started hearing her fuck
the song up over and over again.
Speaker 2: She's yeah, she shouldn't have done that, but she has
hit the good notes at the end pretty good, like
they were. They weren't a sharp but like like, and
I'm a little bit of a douchebag watching these things
because they sang and I used to get.
Speaker 1: Yelled at for singing flat and you know, and all
this other ship and.
Speaker 2: It's just like, yes, she's she doesn't have the acumen
hit some of these notes, but she pulled it together
at the end.
Speaker 1: Let me try it. Please, Welcome Vaughan e. I removed
the music and I just left her voice kind of bare.
Oh I can't hear That's a good thing, John Glad,
I can hear it. Unfortunately, that's so strange. I can't
god itself. Nethematism strikes. Yeah, yes, yes strikes Jesus guys.
All right, I'm Thomas joined along with Joe Numbers and
of course returning. He's always third brother in arms. John Draper, Oh.
Speaker 3: So happy.
Speaker 1: I've I've been looking forward to this.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been going down a deep dive of
catching up to everything that I've missed in the last
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I didn't have to do any
of that and still watch the show. Yeah, No, not wrong,
Not much that has happened. Really, it's been kind of
a slow slow burn since I don't know what was
the last paper of view WrestleMania, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, roughly roughly by the way. Yeah, I'm seeing people
in the chat. They're like, man, they really put pressure
on this kid. Don't feel bad for her for a
tenth of a second.
Speaker 1: Cut it out, I do a little bit. Now you're
fifteen year old out to the wolves like that.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, she's a young kid. It's wasn't necessary and
there's so many things wrong with it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I mean, if anything, they had Lily
and Garcia, they why didn't they do a duet or
something like carried this girl?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like could they they could have?
Speaker 2: They could have, they could have they could have harmonized
it at the very least or something like that.
Speaker 1: No, I've I've had it.
Speaker 3: I've had enough with this fucking nonsense right now, right now.
Apparently there's a top ten country song in America. I
haven't even heard it yet. Fully, I heard like bits
and pieces and it's some girl whose dad owns like,
you know, global core billionaire fucking go on. Yeah, and
the song is it's a top ten song in America. Wow,
neither of you have heard it? Once again, I haven't either,
And it is basically just the melody of Noah Khan
stick season. But her parents have a shit ton of money,
so magically she has a ton of streams on it
and everybody's heard it and it's about Boston, so I
need to hear it. I need to hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, singing is the new acting. If your child, like
there's like jj Ingram's daughter has a made up career,
like like, uh, singing is the new acting for daughters,
like like like in the end, not for not for sons,
sons get thrown the wayside. Like There's plenty of famous
people had sons that were in bands. I know a
couple of them. I've worked with a couple of them,
ranging from like people in the E Street Band's son
and this one's son.
Speaker 1: Never worked out for guys because they don't got tits.
Speaker 3: Ah, well, let's not guarantee that you.
Speaker 1: Can't sexualize those guys.
Speaker 2: You could, they'll end up sexualizing all these girls as
they always do. They can't help themselves even when they
don't want to, and and that's what's and that's how
they'll make money. You don't make money with a with
a pudgy white boy you know who can sing like
Robin Thick, Like we've seen that already.
Speaker 1: Cares well, I.
Speaker 3: Guess speaking of nobody cares. How about this guy SummerSlam? Guys,
what was it?
Speaker 1: Miss? Six matches altogether? I felt like thirty, but yeah, no,
six matches and a bunch of commercials, A bunch of
commercials for your commercials, yeah, and then breaks in between
the commercials which was my FI.
Speaker 2: Break the Break and bed I have our commercials after
I matched.
Speaker 3: It was it was drawn out. Let's just let's just
call it that, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I did enjoy the very creative MySpace angles the camera
worth using. So you didn't see the part of the
building that was completely fucking empty.
Speaker 1: There was what are you talking about? Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was jammed. It was jammed to the gills.
Speaker 1: I heard. I was laughing because before we even started watching,
I saw that there was a couple of streamers that
were the head like titles like w we did it?
And I'm like, what did they do? All they sold
out Summer Slam. I'm like they did, I sure did.
If they say they did, they did. It's a fake spot.
Why don't they make that up too? That doesn't make sense.
Of course they make it up. Our guy on the scene,
Dan's just just clearly an absolute liar. Yeah, his camera
phone's a liar.
Speaker 2: Well, his camera phone has a feature miss to put
on Roman drapes on anything.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's it. An Android feature. But just like you,
it's an Android feature.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm just glad to hear once again
we get to use, we get to use the term
Roman drapes.
Speaker 1: Yea such as it's such a great therey, you know.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is is people could say, well,
you know, night one it wasn't Roman and the main event,
but very true, it's Brock, it's Oba. You want to
blame Cody, you want to blame Punk, Sure, great, whatever,
But do we think that tomorrow night there's going to
be ten thousand more people in this seats or now
you know?
Speaker 1: And set there on the car Jo so dirpe. That's
five k each to walk up five k walk up.
Speaker 3: Each, something nobody has seen before.
Speaker 1: St moving people back on night two to make sure
that they fill out those seats up there. You know.
Speaker 2: It's just I got a lot of homeless and ship
why don't they just get the homeless?
Speaker 3: A w do that.
Speaker 1: The homeless? So even want to go to free somewhere,
do just get the whole?
Speaker 2: They can just get the homeless and like like a
bad area, put anybody on a corner, you know, with
a shopping cart and the dream and just put them
on the fucking bus and.
Speaker 1: Then they can put Dan House in verse on them.
Can I have some money? No, I'm going to I'm
going to hit your human money your home. Can I
have some food? No, but you can have this Dan
Housen shirt. Can I have some human alcohol?
Speaker 3: That'd be great, Dan housing moonshine, Yes, yes, drinking in
front of it paper cup in front of a building.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, shout out to the to the aw
portion of the show, which there was a handful of them.
But yeah, Chris van Fleet there front row center.
Speaker 1: Better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hardcam the whole thing. I'm going no offense to
that guy, because I think he seems like a very guy.
He seems like a sweet dude. But it was a
little distracting, huh.
Speaker 2: I mean I did notice it right away, which is
not something I normally do. Like I was like, oh,
that's Chris van Vliet in the front row.
Speaker 1: That's weird.
Speaker 2: And then I started looking guys like who else is
in the front row? Like you know, is like is
JD in the front row? And like who else is there?
They Maybe that's what they did, minished they flew influencers.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. It seems like they're trying to
really pad up this WWE radio thing. I wouldn't be
surprised if some of these longtime podcasters end up on
that on that station. What was it one F three?
I forgot Yeah, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: Miss. Do you think that was like how we were
talking about them getting him to appear in the network?
Speaker 1: Was that wooing?
Speaker 3: Were they wooing him?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean they would give Dave Meltzer a front
road ticket, would they? No? Yeah? I uh, that could that?
Speaker 2: I mean you we we could be you know, there's
a reason why he's in the front row.
Speaker 1: You know he's a Canadian, isn't the Canadian guy John? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, do you think Meltzer sees that
and even sells it like he that's.
Speaker 1: Got it all, it's got it. There's no what's that? What?
What that guy got that I don't got?
Speaker 3: You know, it's like charisma looks about thirty five years something.
Speaker 1: Like that, probably about thirty five years.
Speaker 3: It likability uh uh uh, he barely works out.
Speaker 1: Uh uh.
Speaker 3: By the way, it is odd, yes, to put him
front row center and have him right there, But also
at the same time, I feel like they there was
a pretty limited amount of celebrities there. It's as though
it's almost as though they don't want to go to Minnesota.
Speaker 2: You're telling me there isn't like an upper West side
of Minnesota where everyone lives.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I just thought all the celebrities are being
set up for tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow because the two biggest stars in the worlds the biggest.
You don't have King Kong and Godzilla and invite everybody
on the night the smog monsters that morning, Kung and
Godzilla fighting camera versus the smog monster.
Speaker 1: You canna squander that.
Speaker 3: I like the idea of them looking at Chris Vanda
tomorrow and saying to him, sorry, you gotta move. There's
a boxer with multiple essay accusations.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, Chris. I love you. I love you,
Chris family god blushed. I love you, but I need
that seat. I need that seat. He's like Jimmy Hart
out there tonight, right, no commercial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had wa and was.
Speaker 1: In spirit, in spirit, in spirit. Somebody wanted to kill
a child there, somebody.
Speaker 3: He was just sitting somewhere just watching it, shaking his head.
Speaker 2: Some dad spent a lot of money and brought his
son and said, I'm gonna kill this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Be there.
Speaker 3: What's what's the poster where it's like I I look
into footsteps and the same so yeah, it's like, yeah,
I look for the footsteps in the sand, but I
turned around it's actually just Chris Benwock carrying me. You know,
carried a lot of people, so that's fair, a lot
of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of carrying people, Uh, what was
even the opening match here?
Speaker 1: I don't even remember that. Donos Let's hit that up.
Oh okay, my bucks from Patrick Conney says, wow, the
bell has turned heel, I'm shocked, said nobody ever go Yeah.
Speaker 3: But by the way, isn't it amazing? And I know
we'll get to the whole all the situation. But them
treating Nick all this like he's a sixty five year
old man. No, no, John, he doesn't look.
Speaker 2: He is the longest of the digits. On the day
the birth certificate, he looked eight years younger than Gunther.
Speaker 1: Looks like the young guy.
Speaker 2: It looked like the young guys fighting his sense in
a movie, Like it looked like him.
Speaker 1: Funny, you're listening to Cole's call saying that's the old oldest,
that's the oldest of yesteryear. It's like how old?
Speaker 3: This is fine, by the way, well that was leading
to the point of all this is younger than the
Bella twins.
Speaker 1: How old is he?
Speaker 3: I think thirty eight three minutes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four, I think twenty I think the way.
Speaker 2: So wait a second, the old grizzled vet is younger
than sixty percent.
Speaker 1: Of the working roster. Correct? Correct? Why would anyone not
cast in that?
Speaker 3: John? He's younger than Gunther if I remember?
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, he is. Something didn't look good. Well, I know,
we'll get to it. He looked. He looked like a
He looked like a Tim Burton version of himself. He
looked like he stuck himself with ozempic twice that today
it's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ozepech and wrestling is not It's not great. Fuck
it's not ipe Page eye page.
Speaker 1: Oh cage. Yeah, we'll get to that too.
Speaker 3: By the way, I think that, yeah, Page was that
would be competition for the youngest person on the show still,
which is a well no, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: The girls, girls, girls, Yeah, the other girls A lot
of ran through ran through fan for two says wingstop
logo on the chairs Greedy Horrors Company, Oh put put
those logos everywhere. Guys, just just make sure everywhere it
was advertising.
Speaker 3: Don't you. Wing Stop, It's not their fault, you know
what I mean, Like the wing Stop, I I worry
about them just due to the fact that Wing Stop
to me seems like a business that's going to be
around for like three or four years and then we're
gonna be making.
Speaker 1: Fun around for a while. Joe, it's to go for
fast food, you know.
Speaker 2: W w A caught up to miss what Talladega Knights
was like, like as far as the the promotions right,
like you could see you could see Triple h going
home and just having Pizza Hut because Pizza hunts a
sponsor in the house, Like you know, it's just it's
literally like they've become what a parody movie would be,
guys of sponsorship, but only it's you're watching it in
real time.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, WWE is totally idiocracy. I'm sure you've said
that before, but yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 2: We've never seen we've never seen the ads and the
sponsors like this guy's ever.
Speaker 1: No, forty plus years of watching it, it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't even gradual. I think that's what it is that
kills it for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 3: It's not like WWE was doing a little bit, you know,
like just a little and then you know a little more,
a little more. It went from being like, hey, this
is the Mountain Dew match, and we're all like, oh,
it's a little ridiculous. They're like and they're like, you
ain't seen fucking ridiculous. Yeah, buddy, we are quadrupleing this
bitch overnight.
Speaker 2: So you guys remember, do you guys remember the safe
days when it was just a KFC match where rest
as Colonel Sanders guys watch at the end of the night.
Speaker 1: Like, don't you long for that now? Because that was
the only time that was a spot. That was the
only time that happened.
Speaker 2: Now it's like everybody and it's like it's so subliminate,
it's it's all properly.
Speaker 1: It's like North Korean propaganda, like they walking NASCAR at
this point. Think WWE Taladega Knights vision. It's what everybody's like.
It's Talladega Knights, the Blazing Bolts for twenty says, what's up, guys,
because you're doing well. Just wanted to say that I
sleep well at night knowing that if jews so it
gets released or gets another d Y and we have
Joey numbers to replace him. Don't forget to recycle my.
Speaker 3: G oh man. Uh well that's another shock at the
night too. I didn't think that that six man was
gonna go that way. And we'll get to that, I'm sure,
but yeah, yeah, no, it's it is funny and uh
I can't take credit for this because Pat pointed out
to me he's like in WWE and this is always
kind of and a thing. There's there's a certain level
of tiered pay per view where you're allowed to be
a star, you know, like only Knight's never going to
be a WrestleMania Royal Rumble star. But to let him
win a Survivor Series in SummerSlam those that's his level.
That's where he's allowed to be a winner. Apparently, never
a big one.
Speaker 1: But the one little bit undernease.
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, sure, so.
Speaker 1: Joe instead of lower to mid car and it's lower
to mid pay per view.
Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, I think that's where they're at now, at
this point where it's like, okay, you know what, We'll
get to the first match, but it's like EO Sky
can win at WrestleMania, but you're gonna let Live Morgan
win at SummerSlam. Well it makes sense, like that's where you.
Speaker 1: Can have the first match. That's all we got there.
We got EO Sky and uh Live Morgan out there.
Speaker 3: I mean, good match, good finish this. This is one
of the those matches where, well it's going on, you're
reminding yourself, it's what Central time right for them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's five o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So they're wrestling there in broad daylight, and it just
doesn't feel right, does it to? In these situations to
some extent, And I get at the big stadium and
they go for that feel and they go for that vibe.
But watching a wrestling match that is supposed to in
any way, shape or form feel like a title match
or a big bout or a fight, if you won't
even call it that, it doesn't feel the same way
when you're like, oh, people are people are still at
the beach.
Speaker 2: Right now, Like people are still looking for parking and
you know, like and trying to get there or stuck
in traffic. I didn't I don't know what you guys thought.
I didn't expect that to open the show. Did you
think so much.
Speaker 1: I was surprised when that was the opening match. No, John,
I didn't, but you know what it was. Uh. I
think it was a good spot for it, honestly, and
I know that the weight of the women's championship should
mean more. But I'll be honest, this Live Morgan run
and then her feud with Eosky has been pretty lackluster.
Not that even the match is bad. Like you said, Joe,
the match was fine. There was nothing really inherently wrong
with it. There was a couple of nice spots in there.
EO looked like she killed fucking Live with that no
need at the corner, which was gorgeous. But there's no
weight behind it. If LIV lost this and EO got
the title back, what would we expect expect next month? Well,
Live to go back after EO. So it's I don't
see where there's any kind of build going off of this.
I know Live just did that interview too. We talked
a little bit about it on Thursday. Where she's going
to hold the title for a thousand days, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But it's like there's no colored challengers, not until they
start switching up the roster. From SmackDown to raw, or
they move with some of these girls over from raw
to SmackDown. I don't know what they're going to do
because I mean, maybe they're calling maybe they're calling a
couple of people up. I don't know, you know, It's
just it felt flat. People are saying it like a
TV match. It felt like a TV match. That's what
you gonna make. They've been building up for kel John
and it's kind of like they left it on and
Live it would have at least done something with EO,
maybe to have more matches with Raquel, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this this is the problem also with Live
Morgan as a character. To some extent, EO is so
good as a babyface that people were actually going yay
go EO this situation. But Live Morgan against ninety five
percent of women if not more, on this roster gets cheered.
So you end up in this weird situation where there
are so few people not not just women, but men
or women on this roster that are either believable heels
or believable faces that the crowd won't just side with
whoever the fuck they feel like. So when EO goes
out there, and wrestles anybody. EO's the babyface like almost
to guarantee to the point where she would go out
there and wrestle Rhea when Rhea was at her peak,
and people were still even like kind of like Yo
a little more because she's smaller and she's an hundredog and.
Speaker 1: She's really good. Her shit looks fucking really good.
Speaker 3: I've said it before, and it's a hill. There's very
few things I actually agree with Michael Cole even in
kfabe with and it's that Eo Sky is one of
the best wrestlers they have in the company. Yes, period,
it's men women as far as the main like the
main event talent, and wrestlers are concerned. If your name
isn't guns or see him punk, she's better than all
of the men's main event wrestlers. And I don't even
think that that's really you know, I guess it's all subjective.
Speaker 1: I know about that. That's a little too bold of acclaim,
but that's a nice sentiment, you know. I still put
guys like Chad Gable up there is being fin the
main event event main event guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chad's great, but also Chad, he doesn't connect even
to that level. He can't be a made of He
can't be in a main event. He doesn't connect how
EO does still. I mean, I'm not saying I think
that's a result of the work. You know, she's putting in.
She's not knockingmor in it.
Speaker 1: She's actually putting in work like.
Speaker 2: She's she's she's putting working, she's doing all She's doing
difficult things for the crowd in an attempt to get
them invested, and they respond, but yes.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You know which, By the way, guys, not a lot
of people men and women are doing that on this
current roster.
Speaker 3: They're not well either way. I think it. I can't
remember if it was he said, I can't remember who
said it, which one of you guys said it. But
I don't know who the challenger is going to be
for Live going forward, because I don't see any strong
women's baby faces right now that that are going to
be able to get people to Boo Live. Is it
or is that just wishful thinking? I mean, uh, I mean,
her feelings are probably hurt at this point.
Speaker 1: She damaged an ass cheek. One of her ass cheeks
is a tear, so she has to get that.
Speaker 3: I think what happened was she maybe she hurt herself
catching her foot on her Jenko pant ah.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
Speaker 3: Because the wide leg on the bottom you can really
you can trip yourself up on those. Uh Now, the match,
Like I said, I really like the finish and by
the way, the whole the whole hulk up thing which
gets over done to death on like indie shows and
your fucking I like that she went yeah and live.
Immediately was like fuck, no, bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, put her right out.
Speaker 3: I was like, good, that's what you're supposed to do.
There's I absolutely hate that shit. When someone kills someone
with a fucking big clothesline or they're finished and then
they stand up and be like uga pool good, do
a fucking cartwheel. I'm like, this sucks. This sucks. So
the fact that she did a fucking amp up and
live was like, oh no, no, no, good heavens, which
which scares me because now we're also at a point
where I go live Morgan has better instincts than most
of the people in ADW.
Speaker 1: We're around like a dozen years.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you're still so has Baron Corbin, which
we'll talk about tomorrow. But Yeah, we're past the point, John,
We're even Like longevity means quality of the performer, which
is a shame.
Speaker 1: No, it just means you've been shitty for a long time. Yeah. Yeah, honestly,
that's what it means.
Speaker 2: It's like a guy in your office, miss she's been
there seven Hey, Carl's been here seventeen years doing the
same job.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, call must suck, like, you know, like
a sucks.
Speaker 3: Karl's still responding to his emails with two fingers typing,
you know.
Speaker 1: Like Carl sucks. He's on the escape. He's good at hiding.
That's all that kind of comes down to for some people.
Speaker 2: And somebody took his stapler, but that's another movie for
another time.
Speaker 3: No, but this match was good.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. It.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good start to the night, good start tonight.
Speaker 1: Next matchup that we had was the Ussos and Jacob
fa To versus Royce Keys solo in l A Knight.
Speaker 3: Rumor has it they're still waiting for someone to cheer
for Royce Keys. Yeah, they've given that man nothing for
the crowd to cling on too.
Speaker 1: Huh, not a thing.
Speaker 3: And when you look at the way, like you look
at the people that they put him in the match with.
It's almost like they think they're setting him up to succeed,
but you're really setting him up to fail. Solo is
completely coming out of his shell and showing it. Huge personality.
Elle Knight is a huge personality. Jaus is drunk, but
he can make facial expressions.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: They like Jimmy because he's attached to the whole thing.
And then obviously Jacob's a wild fucking crazy man, even
though Michael Cole said he's neutered and he's become much
more ineffective and hasn't resonated with the crowd as much
for some reason. But like, you're not setting him up
in that situation because you have all these characters. And
then it's just like, uh, check guy in a single.
Speaker 1: There he is, He's Brocus. He's Brocus, but they've been
trying to make it seem like he's Jacob's foil, like
him and Jacob were running buddies and they have this
history behind them, and it's like it's just it's not clicking,
Like they've never they haven't done enough to really flesh
out that side of the relationship, which is also weird
when they got Ricky Saints down there in NXT doing
tunes and shit, I don't know what they planned on
doing with Roy's keys. I mean we even joked back
when he first came out, having him do the Stephanie
McMahon podcast and start crying all over the place. Maybe
wasn't a great way to introduce your big, jacked up
dude who's supposed to be running SmackDown. So they've kind
of done the failure to launch with this guy since
the beginning, and I mean, I got to give them
some credit for trying to give him the rub by
putting him in the ring with people that fans care about.
But no, I gotta agree. I don't think that this
is what's going to bring him anywhere. I don't know
what it is. I think you need to single him out,
maybe not repackage him or anything else like that, but
maybe give him a dedicated feud, something to where, you know,
the culmination doesn't happen in a six man tag, something
where he can stand on his own succeed or fail
on his own merit.
Speaker 2: You know, I think he needs as he needs a
big match and a big opponent. He needs a purpose
there's no purpose for this guy, you know, he's he
needs purpose, That's what it is.
Speaker 1: He needs some shot, somebody just to believe in this
guy for teching me. Somebody.
Speaker 2: He needs miss somebody needs to write something for him,
because he's not he's not very verbal. I would not
give him a lot of dialogue. But he looks great.
He looks like a guy who's gonna beat the fucking alt.
Somebody put him in some weird.
Speaker 1: Circumstance where he gets good heat, you know.
Speaker 2: But he walked out to nothing and they were look
they I wanted to say, now, La Night gets an
incredible fucking response, bro, just an incredible It was like
a big response.
Speaker 1: The crowd knew what to say.
Speaker 2: They were into it well out on the Babyface team, though,
guys and get no reaction in a big pay per view.
Speaker 1: It is weird. Well for Early Night.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. What looking like a wrestler, acting like a wrestler,
sounding like a wrestler, What that will do for you?
But even as and I can already hear people you know,
fucking ruffling their ruffling their papers and getting a little
a little iffy about me saying this. But even if
they'd have gone with the very basic storyline of saying
when Jacob was in jail, he was in jail with
Royce Keys something something, any anything, because they're like they
know each other from wrestling in the past. And I'm
thinking to myself, now, I'm not a SmackDown watcher, I'll
be honest, but do they even have a picture with
these guys when they were kids or younger?
Speaker 1: Even artist rendition with stick figures?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard they they ran it through Ai.
Speaker 2: It's like they did something like that.
Speaker 1: Even though that has like a lot of great merit
as far as the story goes, Joe, they're not going
to sit there and promote that, oh Royce was in
jail too, guys like that. Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Misson least, it's it's something.
Speaker 1: It's purpose give him substance because it adds validity to
them because now you make them look like a bad
ass because not only has he been to prison, but
he's been to prison and he was Jacob's Jacobs three guys.
Speaker 2: He's fucked guys, that's how badass he is.
Speaker 1: He banged guys. That's why Sampunk's butthole was wet.
Speaker 2: You know, It's just he's like, look, I was only
there for two days, but man, I needed something.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But this, but this is what you even something right?
Whatever it might have been they had, you don't even
have to go with fucking jail. You could say they
were on the indies together and he bailed them out
of jail. It's anything anything, give him something to work with.
But even if you went with the idea of listen,
we both used to get in trouble. I cleaned up
my fucking act that I'm doing this, But I'm watching
you and seeing what you were doing, and you're letting
yourself fall in even though it's your family. I'm seeing
that shitty, violent side that gets you in trouble coming
out of you, and I don't like it, and I
want to up. I want to make sure. I want
to squash that because I see where this goes. You
are going to act up in the building and then
you're gonna leave and you're gonna act up somewhere else
and get yourself in trouble.
Speaker 1: I don't want you, and I don't want you to
lose the job. Man, you got a bunch of kids,
you give them a fucking a serious match. You give
them a match where they're in the ring and maybe
the referee is distracted. And then at some point Jacob
pulls some brass knucks out of his prison pocket. Wat's
fucking Roy's keys up against the head. And then all
of a sudden, you've got the fans that feel, you know,
sympathy for Roy's keys that just got hit in the
head with some shitty knucks.
Speaker 3: I just yeah, anything, anything, And that's where you end
up with though. When you don't tell stories about people
and you don't give them what John said a purpose
or any sort of reason for them being there, people
just don't react and they don't care. And I mean,
I guess with all that said it he was with
the exception that spot with him and Jimmy Oh.
Speaker 2: I think there's only three three words that could save
his career.
Speaker 1: Nation of domination. Just have him do a Feru gimmick.
Get it out of the way. Let's just get it
out of the way. Do the racist gimmick. You know
they kind of want to do it, you know, they
itching to do some race.
Speaker 2: Have him do like a black nationalist gimmick, like a
b l M gimmick or something that's so Vince, the
vintage Vince.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean John, they would this is a man.
They would never align themselves with anything.
Speaker 1: They could blame the Jews. It'll be fine, Like.
Speaker 2: I figured out why nobody's climbing for me.
Speaker 1: It's the Jews. Like did you put him in the
little glasses? You know, it's funny. I hate to say it,
and I'm sure maybe you guys have thought it. He
was he was doing.
Speaker 3: He was better off maybe an A W.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, No, he wasn't better off with the aw but
he was certain But.
Speaker 2: This joke, but this hasn't improved his career and it
should have.
Speaker 1: Why he should be with Ricky Starks.
Speaker 2: He needs something, Keith Lee and w w A. It
is just like it's got you guys got potential. He's
got literal like keys of success. Not a lot of
people look like him.
Speaker 1: You mean Cargill, John, But you know who is.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like I said, there's probably somebody that's
gonna think it's offensive that I even had that as
an idea, But who we got to? You have to
give him something And if it's going to be with Jacob,
like I said, do you even have a picture of
these guys wrestling together. Give me something, give me some
sort They should just.
Speaker 1: Make hold on. They should just make a cartoon with
him and Jacob as cartoon unicorns. Why that would solve
all the problems. People would gravitate toward it like crazy.
Speaker 3: Where they break out of jail, like the.
Speaker 1: Break out of the real prison. After that done, s right?
Speaker 2: Thing they break out a prison, they rape that, they
rake the guards to get out.
Speaker 3: But guys, this match was it was fine?
Speaker 1: And a fan for five says, did a w take
all the wrestling fans? The new WWE audience just wants
to sing and dance, and when the wrestling starts, they
seem bored and sat on their hands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well that's it is It's yeah, that's it.
We've gotten to the point. Wait do you see tomorrow? Oh? Good, heavens,
Well that was you know what, I will say this,
Good on Solo for being the first one to get
the crowd in on the idea that the thing is
fucking stupid. Good for him, Good for him for being
able because he's he has turned that in on the
crowd where it's like, hey, listen, I know you want
to do it, but it's dumb, right, we all know
it's dumb, So we're gonna do it. And it's going
to be to mock j because Jay's a fucking clown shoe.
But at least I'm involving you. You know, it's not
just to sell minute made juices or Capri sons or
some shit. But yeah, I don't know. Like I said,
the match itself was fine. I was very, very surprised
that they let La Night win for the obvious reason
that they don't let La Night win anything.
Speaker 1: Crowd crowd like the guys they did.
Speaker 3: So I gotta ask this, though, Mish, what the fuck
do they actually do going forward from here? What do
they do? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Match? That's really the problem with most of these matter
of fact, this entire card for both nights, there are
no consequences. The only thing that really had consequences felt
like the main events. Yeah, that was a blow off,
maybe the Cody Roads see them punk match only because
the way that that turned out. But if it wasn't
for Randy Whorton showing up, it would have just been
another fucking match. There's just another match. This was an
entire event based on exhibit That's what it felt like, but.
Speaker 3: Do we do we buddy cop story? Do we keep
it going with Solo in l A. Knight? Because at
least there's something there, and they're obviously not going to
actually push either of those guys in a substantial way,
so they might as well keep them together and let
them play off each other and have some fun. But
then Royce Keys can go off to the nether realm
not as SmackDown. I guess, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: It's not like they're going to get any titles or anything. Yeah,
let them go. Let them just exists in the background
and make jokes, help put truth with them. Why not
for them? How about John Hendry? You know, like, why not?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: But I do see.
Speaker 3: I do see them being able to steal a couple
of fucking rob main events with Solo and La Night.
Speaker 1: Versus bigger names.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the point of it, you know, I turn
on the other Solo. They're trying to make Solo a babyface.
People are reacting to it. I think it's of bland whatever.
It's just like I.
Speaker 1: Agree with you, John, I think he's very bland. I
think it's just a recent uh uh change of events
that have shown a little bit more charisma. Yeah, I
think Solo's best act was when he was being a
hard ass for the Bloodline. That should be He's got
a chicken chair heel.
Speaker 2: It was okay, it wasn't main event worthy, but they
did it anyway because he's Samoan and that's the law.
But I I I'm all set with the with the fat,
with that fam the fat too, fam.
Speaker 1: I'm all set. I'm good. I don't know what this
is all set up to down the road for Solo
to go back at the Bloodline yet again, because I
had no.
Speaker 3: No, no, that's definitely gonna happen, but had.
Speaker 2: Him as a double agent to take out threats like
l a night, that's what it's going to be, and
that's what it's.
Speaker 1: Going to be.
Speaker 3: No, but you know what it does kind of does
kind of bum me the fuck out is that they
have beat the Samoan ship to death so bad that
haw Coup debuted as a manager. And I'm like I said,
a handful of years ago, I'd have been like, hell, yeah, dude,
Hatkho's on the show and he's wearing a suit and
he's a fucking heel of the manager. That rules Now
I'm like, oh god, another Simo guy on the show,
Gez christ Fatigue.
Speaker 1: I just I'm done. I know.
Speaker 3: But this yeah, this, like I said, the match was fine, good,
good finish, came out.
Speaker 1: Well I got got the pin. So that's that's a
big thing.
Speaker 3: It just takes forever. It just takes forever because in
these two matches now we have done one hour.
Speaker 1: It was one hour between those two matches.
Speaker 3: Good stuff, right, yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lose everybody. I'm sorry, no, no.
Speaker 3: What happened. I think we're all just like, what do
you do with that match? I like, so now we're
under The third match that was That was the That
was the girls, right, that's the tag title, right man?
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't it Gunther and Nick all this it
was actually the match Okay, I thought it was the
Pride No Gunter all this obviously against old Man all
this decrepit aging, decrepit old man all this, Uh coming
out there looking like a thousand year old It's amazing.
Bad match. Actually was a really good match. I was.
I was actually really excited for this. This was probably
one of the highlights of the entire event that I
was looking forward to. Gunther did not disappoint. All this
did not disappoint. It was good emotion back and forth.
It was solid. Like there was a couple of times
where you could tell Gunther was being a little ginger.
I guess with all this, and I wasn't sure if
it's because he didn't want to hurt the old man,
but the accelerated age.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, honestly, the toughest thing about watching this match
is it's a reminder because you know, now I'm thinking
of it. You had lle Knight before, and then you
had all this right after this, and once again you
end up in this spot where you go. It's amazing
how looking like a wrestler, working like a wrestler, and
talking like a wrestler makes people interested in your matches.
Speaker 1: It makes some responds alive, like and get invested.
Speaker 2: The crowd, guys, the crowd was very excited about this, Like, yeah,
they were ready. They were ready for it. They knew,
they were on board, they knew all the pretense, you know,
and what more do you want? It was hot, they
were like middle of the card, pretty hot, you know.
It was hot for the entrances. Gunther looks like a
lesbian volleyball teacher.
Speaker 1: I had who.
Speaker 2: You know, were underpants with the dick hole. Like, I
don't know what's going on with Gunther. He looks terrible.
Speaker 1: He looks like a lesbian around a double masks who
wears boy on the like that's what he looks like.
Speaker 2: Like I I, oh, that beats himself into transitioning. I
don't like, I don't know why he's doing this. That
guy should be scary. He did not look scary.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He looked like a w NBA like like
small forward like it just was not threatening more than
all this too, which is a thread here that Gut
There's been the one pushing them around John. But it's
like at some point did gun There ever look at
all this and go, well, maybe I shouldn't be pushing
around the guy that's physically bigger than me.
Speaker 3: But what this was always my problem though with all this,
and I've said this to you a million times, mash
where it's like, once again, the guy's not old, he's
bigger than everybody, and he's in crazy shape.
Speaker 1: He's in shape.
Speaker 3: It's the weirdest thing in the world to see him
sitting there going, oh my god, how could I stop
these two five eight eighty pound.
Speaker 1: Guys, classic, all this, all this of old, Like he's
two years ago.
Speaker 3: John, I said to Miss the other day, I go,
did they did the people in the office just assume
all this was old because he didn't marry a woman
that was a decade younger.
Speaker 1: I heard, Yeah, that was Thursday. Yeah, Like, is that
what they did? Where they're just trying to think, Well, guys.
Speaker 2: I think if you work in like, if you're a
non in ring performer, you're old, right, that's just the
austice of its just like but no, it's like, well,
well you're not wearing tights. Get out of the way, Boomer,
And it's like, I'm seven years younger than you.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? And just don't wrestle.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the funny thing is is this point too
where you think of it where they go, well, all
this hasn't wrestled for three years, And in my mind,
I'm going, yeah, it's on you. That's you, guys, that's
on you. You guys chose to not have help.
Speaker 1: It's helping you. Had uh Wade Barrett sitting on the
sidelines talking about Yeah, back when I first started wrestling,
the very first person I ever wrestled. Was Nick all
this and it's like, oh, Wade, you're not helping that.
Speaker 2: They wanted well, they wanted well, I think honestly they
somebody behind the scenes said we need to make it
seem like it is so unlikely for him to win.
What are the factors that make that possible. Well, he
is bigger than Gunter no, no, one of the like
one of the facts. Well, he's in better shape tech
than Gunta No no, no.
Speaker 1: What else is it?
Speaker 2: Well, he wears a suit, so he's got to be
like somebody's dad.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: They're like, yes, oh, yes, how fucking crazy is this
show and the way that they try to set things up.
But this is also once again this goes back to
this is their fault for even putting that guy in
this position where you took one a giant jack dude
and made him look like he's supposed to be like
a feeble fifty year old man. It's like, no, he's
he's a by wrestling standards.
Speaker 1: He's in his prime.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's in his prime. And like anybody that would
hear me say that, that's probably like a spot monkey
wrestling enthusiast thinks that's crazy. But also newsflash to a
lot of them, your spot monkey guys as you love,
are also getting into their mid thirties and early forties too.
Oh so waa waka you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like so even then when they're.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, that's these old wwee guys, Kenny Omega looks
like a fucking tapeworms, looks like a he looks like
a corpse.
Speaker 1: He looks like a lesbian volleyball teacher from the eighties. Like,
he just looks like, well you.
Speaker 3: Said, he looks like a who looks like a Tim
Burton character, Like Kenny Omega looks. Yeah, he looks like
he'd be in the background at a funeral in a
Tim Burton movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's two years away from being the dynamite
kid now. Oh honestly, like he just did. He's you
can see physically, he's never fully recovered from these injuries.
Speaker 3: You can just tell, and you can't because you don't
have the time, and he just destroyed his body. But
that's a whole other fucking Candi tape worms h But
that's it is like, all this isn't old, All this
isn't like he doesn't look bad. Are you're trying to
sell him as a designer dog. And like you said,
Gunter looks skinnier than him, smaller than him, and like,
I love.
Speaker 2: Gunter, it's not like to but he looks like the
pirate in back rooms, Like I don't know what the
fuck happened to this?
Speaker 1: Then he does. And then they also made those shots
too of showing Mickey out there, and to be fair,
they weren't like trying to put a plastic bag over
ahead or nothing like that. So that was nice of
that the Mickey out there. Then they had his kid
out there, and they just really wanted you to realize
that all this is a family man at his age,
he should have a family, you know, at least one
a fake family, grandchildren, year old, thirty, This poor great.
Speaker 3: So this is this is such a fucking problem because
it goes back to just.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Joe, I kind of lean into it
at this point. I lean right into it. Yeah, se
years old a r P commersal.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe this is the time where they just start
making up fake stories about some.
Speaker 1: AI videos and him training with Terry fonker Rick Flair
and ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it should happened with Nick Colon like Scoland in
the Boston Garden seventy four.
Speaker 1: I wasn't born until eight years later, but I was there.
Speaker 3: They're like Nick nick Oldis was there when Jackie Robinson
broke the color barrier.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when Hitler invaded Poland? Oh yeah, they
was a forgotten tag team of Nick Aldus and Ernie Ladd.
You know, Oh my god, they totally.
Speaker 3: Into They're like Nick all this World War two veteran.
Speaker 1: He's thirty seven years old.
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, but that was really it. It's
so it's so ineffective for them to play their hand
that way when quite literally, like people were just listening
in the chat room, all these people that are older
than him. Set is older than him, Roman's older than him.
Punk is clearly older than him. The Bell Twins are
older than him.
Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain.
Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, but I think Dan Housen's
probably Dan Housen might have gone six. Yeah, I think
they could have gone to the high school and been
in the same like four year period of time, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, well, Joe, it's funny he loves Dracula and like
Belo Lagosi and Nick Aldis knows Bela Lagos.
Speaker 1: They were friends. Yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 2: Yes, do you remember when the talkies started in the cinema.
Speaker 1: It's so it's sober Steven come out Like Nickollless doesn't
know about streaming music.
Speaker 3: He thinks it's still in nineteen twenty I And that
is honestly funny too, because.
Speaker 1: Mike, Okay, so they wanted me to correct you Lightning
corrected me. All this is thirty nine, Gunther's thirty eight. Yeah, god,
six serious, I mean we're really, we're really question six serious.
Maybe it's a long thirty eight, you know, maybe January
and all this was born December.
Speaker 3: Just looks at me. It's like, you old pussy, you
need to go take us raise, You need to go.
Speaker 2: You might be in the eighth grade, but I am
in seventh grade.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. You want to know who's old? That I
didn't think was that old? Nia x is fifty no but.
Speaker 2: Me, no, no, no, that's kilograms.
Speaker 1: It's kilograms. Oh oh well that's pretty light. But I
think we just saved. We just created a huge angle
for Nick.
Speaker 2: All this that they have to start using all this.
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, the immortal he can be the New
Immortal who was on the.
Speaker 2: Lawn with jaff camera shot nick All this.
Speaker 1: With all those suits, well, he invested in IBM stock.
It's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: He's Forrest Gump. He's addressful the.
Speaker 1: Day it was adop day for a young nick All. This,
by the way, I love it. Apparently Ni Jacks is
forty two. You know you guy.
Speaker 3: I just saw someone was like, nick All, this is
younger than Joey numbers.
Speaker 1: I'm like, guess he yes, it's no fallen. That's what
That's why I.
Speaker 3: Think it's funny because clearly I'm not I'm not a
fucking spring chicken myself. But nonetheless that nick All this, yeah,
oh my god, I'm telling you, it goes back to Mickey.
It goes back to them thinking because he's married to Mickey,
that he's like forty five years old.
Speaker 1: Mission I'm I'm surprised that they even showed that they
had a kid, considering Mickey so old, how could she
even have kids? How could she bear children?
Speaker 3: That's why there's no.
Speaker 2: Way that wasn't like an adoption situation, because you just
it's so Barren hasn't been active since Studio fifty.
Speaker 3: But isn't it also kind of weird? And you mentioned
Mickey and I was thinking of this, isn't it kind
of fucking weird too? That I understand that they like
to pretend the history is history when it's convenient to them.
Speaker 1: So Mickey James was like a big, big player in
the company for a long time, legendary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that was the old regime. This is
the new regime. Saudis don't care about Mickey James. That
they couldn't buy her. They couldn't buy her in a
hotel room, like you know what I mean, like that
she's too old.
Speaker 3: But it's just very weird for them to just not
even kind of whatever I'm looking for sense in something
there's no sense to. Once again, they're taking a guy
that's a decade or so younger than the champion currently
and they're like, look at this, fucking geezer.
Speaker 1: But talk about what happens from this point, right, I mean,
I know we're kind of glossing over the match itself,
but what do you do with all this after this?
I mean, I thought this was kind of a big moment. Obviously,
you know, it didn't go his way, But now, what
do you do with them.
Speaker 2: You give him a walker and make sure it doesn't
eat anything that isn't too hard on his teacher.
Speaker 1: Give me some food, just start baby birding food for him.
Speaker 2: On TV they give him soft food and a bunch
of diapers and hood for the.
Speaker 1: That's what you do with every thirty nine year old
in the audience. Why not, It's just well, I believe.
Speaker 3: With Nick what you do with Nick all this is
you remove the amulet from his chest and he turns
to dust. I think, oh, yeah, I think there's what
you do with him. Yeah, Mickey's forty six years old,
so once again, yeah to them, She's yeah to them, yeah,
so to them.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the vagina. I've never seen a forty six
year old Jana.
Speaker 2: All right, Marty, this is howl from from his Killigan's Island.
Speaker 1: I'm not golden girls. That pussy.
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta say, John, that was the perfect transition
to the next match. Honestly, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. We had fatal influence of ja C Jane
Laney re fallon Henry, Henry Henley, Jesus Christ, oh whatevern Henry.
The Bellots wins versus the Bellots wins Nikky Brie and
Page six woman tag team match thankfully ended at seven
and a half minutes, the shortest match of the night.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's really a shame that the whole thing
happened with the Bells in Page because I really thought
it would have been great as a collective to call
them the Substance. I believe that was the the group
name I came up with for them.
Speaker 2: It was Nicky James's turn tonight with the Substance Show.
Speaker 3: Yeah Russia, So dude, the bell is coming out. I mean,
I'm sorry Nikki with the backwards hat and to win
the little it looks she does look I know, but
the middle aged woman man like how old?
Speaker 1: How old are they I honestly don't know how they are.
Speaker 3: I think she's I think they're close to there may
be a year younger than me. I think they're like
forty two years old something like that, which it's for listen.
I'm not one of these people that's like you're old
and ugly and you're not of any value. But it's
just like it's worse. But like the backwards hat being
like I'm just your bad shikey girl. I'm like your mom,
your middle aged mom, cut it out like it's it's weird.
It comes off as fucking strange, especially when you then
have them followed by like a bunch of girls in
their mid to late twenties and cowboy hats smashing their
asses into the cameras and stuff. I'm like, this is
come on, what do we do it?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: What the fuck is this? And Page once once again
like I'm just me being a fucking asshole. Page worries
me because there's I don't know if there's a muscle
on her body anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, miss that.
Speaker 2: I mean like, look, let's let's I'm making jokes, but
like Page looks frighteningly sin and and it's like she
looks like somebody should throw a football out of the
catch it would go through her abdomen. Like you know,
she has no muscle tone. She used to look a little,
she used to look like a tough girl. She was
never like crazy crazy and shape and shape, but she
was a jape. And she's not that old either, Mish.
I mean, look, it's just like does she just not
work out? And like it just comes out looking like
Peter Murphy, Like what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that. You know, even though she's
come back to BWE and she did a little time
in AW, she's just not She's done. She should be
retired at this point. I mean, people don't want to
point fingers at the Sasha Banks incident, but clearly that
was the pivotal moment, you know, her not being able
to walk or feel anything for a little while. There
was the pivotal moment in her career where she just
stopped being a wrestler. I mean, she went through a
real hard twenties, you know what I mean? Oh yeah,
does the back stuff, then the Dela stuff and the
video of Brad Matta Horne, drugs like interhip. I wouldn't
be surprised if she's just doing this for a paycheck.
But she was doing fine on her own, didn't she
have her own clothing line? And I guess her streams
were doing really better. Well, I guess when she was
uh with that what was it that new metal.
Speaker 3: Guy that yeah, that situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he turned out real good. But I think at
this point Paige is just going through the motions and
that's fine.
Speaker 2: Yea, she missed, but she's big enough that she'll get
the sympathy thing.
Speaker 1: Look, people pop for her. They know who she is.
Speaker 2: She's familiar and that's you know that that means something
to a paid wrestling noting.
Speaker 1: So you guys know that, Like that's in familiarity is
like I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she doesn't look the same though, where's her
where's her ass? Like? Even she doesn't like she looks
really weird, man Like she looks like an unhealthy girl
that listened to way too much Bowhouse. Miss, what do
you think she's No, I think she just doesn't work out.
I think there's no it's not the guys. You have
to remember this is not the Vince mcmn era. I
don't know that there's the pressure to physically work out.
Speaker 1: This could be like a yeah, you don't work out, tripley,
she doesn't hug you at the end of the match.
Speaker 2: No, but miss, she's coming from aew for years where
nobody works out.
Speaker 1: Like, clearly no one's working out.
Speaker 2: Very few people are in the gym all the time,
encouraging people to go to the gym all the time.
That you got people walking around like just making tiktoks
all day and talking about things they don't know about
physically they don't.
Speaker 1: Look very good. You know, it's like it's not like
it's not like guys.
Speaker 2: When she came up Joe's you know, like like from
the Chris Hero shit, they were like, yeah, uh, you
know you're an NXT. Here's a thirty five thousand. You
need to be in the gym every day at six
am to ten. Yeah, then you're gonna roll for six
hours and then everybody usually goes back to the gym.
Speaker 1: We do this about six days a week. That was
the regiment shoe and she came into the and by the.
Speaker 3: Way, I mean, I get it just first of all,
two things, I'll start with the lighter side of it,
so I know that it's not exactly like women are.
Speaker 1: Immune to not being mean to other women.
Speaker 3: So you know, you know it is. It is what
it is. But like the wife s are and she goes,
she looks like a cigarette came to life. That was
That was her description of babe.
Speaker 2: It was like, I tell you, guys, what missus Draper
said about seem punk whose she knows that was nothing
about what I.
Speaker 3: Tell you Yeah. But but also other than that, like
with the back injury, right, we're all we're all grown
men who knew dudes growing up, who were very physically
fit guys, and then something happened. They got hurt on
the job, they had a car accident, right, whatever it
might be, and they just got fucked up in a
way where they were never able to be that person again.
And with wrestlers and with wrestling, I think sometimes people
just are like, don't know, everybody just comes back and
they come back bigger and stronger, and it's like, well,
you can ask Triple H about that, but like, they
don't all come back bigger and stronger and healthier after injuries.
That's that's not that's not reality, you know what I mean. Like,
and people, like I said once again, they get that
wrestling mindset, even with professional athletes, like they go, oh,
well this one, you know he tore Kobe tore his
achilles and then went on to play for like another
five years.
Speaker 1: They still look at you know, Steve Austin romantically. They
still look at guys like the Flying Hyabusa romantically. They
look at these crazy fucking stories of people that should
have never walked. Hell, they probably even look at Page romantically,
these crazy stories where people should never walk again, and
they do. But The reality is is most people end
up like draws, you know, like, no, you're not wrong,
and that's it. As I think for her the move
might be. And this is like two.
Speaker 3: Birds one stone right where some within the company, maybe
Triple H should look at all this and go listen, Nick,
you know, I want to shake your hand. And you know,
I know he had all the problem. You had to
fight because you were a man. You know, you're a
man and you're standing up for yourself and you know,
we're glad that we could give you this big moment
and we'd love to give you your job back. And
he has to be like, you know what, you know respectfully,
you know, paul I, you know I don't want that
position back. I want an opportunity to And then Page
becomes the gm age.
Speaker 1: Guys they can find something. They find shit for people
to do all the time. You could find something for
her to do. Well.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have to put on the wrestling gear, which
looks way different from her when she used to actually
work out prior to the you know, almost getting paralyzed.
Speaker 1: Honestly, find something for her to do. I'm surprised you
don't put her in as a trainer she was a
standalone breakout star. She's a good family that trained her
from day one. It's like, if there's anybody that screams
female trainer that honestly has enough charisma that you could
teach a lot of the girls that too, Why wouldn't
you put Paige in that role? I think, you know,
onto something Joe with having her as like a female
GM or something like that. But yeah, like that one
aspect of her that would keep her on TV. I
think overall, John, it's just keep her as a trainer.
That would make the most sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, an on air personality because they paid, Look,
they probably paid.
Speaker 1: They paid her to wrestle. You know, they gave her.
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna be you're gonna be in matches
money and you're gonna be promoting.
Speaker 1: But you could.
Speaker 2: Goodwill ambassador that girl all over the place, send her
to foreign countries.
Speaker 1: Give her the rock scof girl daughter. That's that's spot that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could, you could find you could find something
for her to do, right, Like that doesn't involve she
doesn't look like a wrestler. He doesn't look like somebody
who is in great shape. He looks like an emaciated,
like metal head chick that hangs out at Lucky thirteen.
Speaker 1: That you may or may not go home with. You
don't know yet. You haven't figured that. I've only fingered
her at the bar, nobody noticed. You're just playing the cards, right.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this from personal experience other than
personal experience, but I just it's sad because you know
she At least the Bellows look like they're in shape.
They don't look very different from when they want much younger.
Speaker 1: They let's talk about let's talk about fatal influence for
a second, because I'm pretty sure that Joe was a
little lost with j C, Jane and the other girls there. Yeah,
but what did you think of them?
Speaker 2: I nothing for nothing, And you could have put any
three holes in there and.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known the difference. I don't. I barely
know who these people are. The crowd didn't seem to
give a fuck. You could have Proud three. You could
have put three girls from.
Speaker 2: The WNBA all like you know, if big in that industry,
and they would have gotten the same response. You could
have put three indie people from Minnesota who do Minnesota
house shows. No one would care I'm concerned that they
don't have a lot of up and comers period, let
alone in the women. Forget about the guys. The women,
they got nothing on the deck. And that's why they
got to bring out this ran through vadge, you know,
because they don't have anything else. At least tonight they didn't.
Speaker 3: I will say this, and I know this is your girl.
I know Jay C Jane is missus girl. She was
the workhorse of the okay, yeah, no, honest to god.
Speaker 1: She held the thing together.
Speaker 3: And I think Fallon Henley, that girl has potential to
be okay, not ready for that kind of push, all right,
She's more ready for the push and soul. Ruka, I'll
tell you that she's more But Joe.
Speaker 1: Have you seen her? Asked tech talks that's what good.
Speaker 2: So media engagement, buddy, is infinitely more engagement than Fallon Henry.
Speaker 1: Like, it's not even terrible, dude, but this is serious.
Non't compare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to. They're putting them together in this group.
And yes, the girl, like I said, the girl Jacy
Jane not a bad worker. I'm not saying that at
any capacity. And the girl fan and Henley can be okay,
but I still think it's crazy that they sent them
all out there to be with the Bellas and Page.
I'm like, you're not doing You're not doing these young
girls any favors.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, guys a question.
Speaker 2: Was the idea you think Mish that, look, we're not
really pushing the Bellows, we're not really pushing Page, but
their names they will get the pop we want these
girls to be something. Is the idea you think miss
that they're going to just start putting people over like
younger girls overall.
Speaker 1: No, they're gonna be feuding with Paige for the next
three months, so Page is going to have to find
the young vagin to fight the other two old broads.
Speaker 2: You know who Page should get. I just I don't
even know why I didn't think of this earlier.
Speaker 1: Guys. You know who Paige should get to fight the
Bella is Nick Aldos.
Speaker 2: It's too old BRASO younger bro even though the young
Abros are.
Speaker 1: It's been kind of been thrown out there, but people
are saying that it might be a j Lee. I
could see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not really doing much with aj They they
haven't figured out what they really want her to do.
Speaker 3: I just don't. I just don't see the point to
have the Bellas on your show anymore. At this I
get it because we're talking earlier and saying, you know,
there's who's lived, gonna face or whatever the fuck is
going to be. I can tell you this much, though,
the answer is, Jesus, that's a whole other can of birdworms.
The answer to that is certainly not Nicky or brief Bella.
But that's not Paige. But that's it. It's like I'm
looking at this, I'm going I don't get having them
on the show. And honestly, for whatever it's worth, Nicky Bella's.
Speaker 1: Value in Bree Bella's value is all.
Speaker 3: Related to them doing like those post shows, pre shows.
They were good at those types of fluff interviews, putting
over WWE and showing up somewhere and going, oh, we're
so good, like those are your plane faced ambassador girls
that know how to talk like that, trying to make
them into scary tough bads like heels.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you none. I'm gonna ask you both mess.
Speaker 2: Do you think the reason why they re signed them
and probably gave them a really good deal was just
to make sure was Brian Danielson being there that they
did not go to.
Speaker 1: A w dude, what was it? Fallon Henley was mocking
the Brian Danielson chance, and nobody got it, nobody realized
or remembers. And you get married to them, they don't care.
Nobody cares. Nobody go on to some Donalds real quick
working man for two says bummed. All this is going
back to just being GM lame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they're Maybe no creative, no creative for him,
I know, And that's what sucks is I don't trust
creative to move him on to something different, you know.
Speaker 1: Patrick O'Connell ten says Triple H blames fans for shitty storylines,
then proceeds to put more sponsors on the mat. I
miss the days when the only sponsor we had was
Jimmy John's on Brock Shorts. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well this the writing and the sponsorships, which, by the way,
like we didn't even mention them, being like the Gears
of War advertisement.
Speaker 2: With with Cody Christ Cody Christ that I'm not gonna
Jacob Jacob at it right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the Cody thing too, but.
Speaker 2: Well obviously the movie paid for the advertisements.
Speaker 3: Guys, you you bet your ass they did.
Speaker 1: They probably John. It was even funnier with the Cody
thing that they're like, oh, Cody's gonna be guyle, but
Roman's going to be a kuma. Yeah the movie. But
did you know that Roman Rains is the main baddie
in the movie.
Speaker 2: It's like, never mind the fact that Jason Momoa, who
is the more desirable Roman Reigns, is in it too,
who's bigger and actually older than Roman but looks younger.
Speaker 3: So is Roman gonna come out with like a red
wig or something and pretend that he's of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably they paid a lot of them. I bet
you they paid so much money for that spot. Oh
my god, damn.
Speaker 3: But either way, yeah, the woman whatever, We'll move on this.
Speaker 2: This was the worst match of the night. Let's be honest.
It was the worst match of the night. The page thing.
Nobody really cared.
Speaker 1: That gave them a nice ovation, like you do when you.
Speaker 2: See an old broad in your neighborhood to say hello, yeah,
put the groceries. That's what they did there. But these
other three girls like that nothing for nothing, you know
what I mean. It's just it was a vehicle, I
guess mitched to make the bellas beat up page that
was a SIG fan.
Speaker 1: For five says breaking news WWE he bought Wrestling Soup
will now be called w W Soup. No more negative
talk about Seth or WWE. Every second is filled with ads.
Speaker 3: People on Spotify.
Speaker 2: By the way, we just signed a contract and I
have to say all the stuff I said about Seth.
Speaker 1: I was joking.
Speaker 2: He's amazing, He's unbelievable. I mean him and Roman have
really changed my life to say life, Yeah, my life.
Speaker 1: It says it right here in the contract experienced drewiari
much left him for two bucks. All this is younger
than Rollin's Roman and Punk.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's once again this is not an old man.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't have my ring entering soul.
Speaker 3: By the way, like I would saying the other day too,
it's going to be very I don't want to say interesting,
maybe more sad that tomorrow night. I really think when
Roman reigns and Seth come out, people are going to
sing the entrance and then start leaving. I really think
that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Will it be the same time, because if it's later
than it is now, that might be because Monday's.
Speaker 3: A workday, you know, so the fuck knows. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Like, I really wouldn't be shocked if
that was it. They want to see the entrance, they
want to make the mony noises, they want to put
one finger in the air. But then they realized that.
Speaker 1: Do I want to be in traffic till one am? No,
get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: No, I want to put that finger in their nose
driving home, sitting in traffic.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's about. Well, we had Seampunk versus
Cody Roads up next. Uh honestly, honestly, I should have
enjoyed this match more, but I didn't. I was more
interested in the idea of Randy Worton coming out of nowhere.
I think the match itself was fine. It was good
and give and take, but it was an exhibition. It's
just I at no point did I believe that Punk
was going to lose this. No, no, and.
Speaker 3: Face again. Like that's where that's where it becomes a problem.
Is now we have a place where you hit the wall.
Uh oh, well, we need certain we want to have
certain people go for the title and have these do
and blah blah blah, and they don't want anybody seemingly
to actually be booed, I think other than Gunter, a couple.
Speaker 1: Other people, because that's what that friction is, what creates
feuds and storylines. With this, it was just two friends
pretending to be mad at each other, going out there
and dancing like that's all this was.
Speaker 2: And it seems by the way, they both didn't really
seem that into the I don't know, it was a
weird vibe.
Speaker 1: Looked weird. He looked weird. He just didn't.
Speaker 2: He just looked weird, clean shaven, I don't know. It
just didn't look he looks had the email aircut and
clean shaven. So here's a funny thing. I just won't
bring this up. So my wife just happened to walk
in the room and silly me, and this is nothing
to do. This is not meant to be a dick.
But I thought see him Punk. You know, he was
friends with Louke Cohler from Sick of It All passed away.
He's a good friend of mine. He just died last
week and Punk stepped made a big post and I
know he's close with those guys. He literally says it's
cloblin clober in Time, which is their tagline. So I
thought maybe he might like write like lose name on
his wrist or something. So I was like, oh, I
really want to pay attention because Punk is like really
connected to the hard cosine. So I was paying attention
to it. So my wife heard me thinking of talk
about this. She was like, yeah, I want to see
in case he does something for lou. So my wife
doesn't know shit about wrestling. As Punk is walking out,
she goes, who's that and I said, that's see him
Punk And she looks at me and she.
Speaker 1: Was like he's that old and I was like, how
well did you think he was? It was like I
don't know, but he looks pretty old to be a wrestler.
Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, this is one again doesn't
know shit about Wrestlingnky, you know, she knows his name,
and I was like, well, he shaves. He actually normally
doesn't look at this old, but yes, he does look
he looks very old. And then she saw Cody and
she goes, that guy doesn't look old.
Speaker 1: Like you know Cody.
Speaker 3: Cody's also he's starting to age rough too, because his
is not cruisy. Well, his face is taking a beaten man.
He's constantly bleeding, getting hurt, breaking shit. Like you start
to see Cody at one point, Cody was a pretty boy.
Speaker 1: Cody was. I mean, I know for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: They they're gonna go, well, yeah, obviously, Joe, everyone remembers
when Cody was doing his dashing. No they don't, No,
they don't. That was over ten plus years ago. Now
where now you look at Cody and you go, he's
starting to look grizzled.
Speaker 1: He's seen some shit.
Speaker 2: Joe cigarettes and it's punk, look like they smoke cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Like he's just like he's just injecting the vodka at
this point, he's not even drinking it anymore. Miss Do
we know how old Cody is?
Speaker 3: I don't know music in his early forties, I know that.
But but that's it is like Cody two, he's not
a heel. I think that there's a the people that
want him to be a heel. And then yeah, you
end up in this place again where it's baby Face
first baby Face, and we're in a stadium and you
can hear people, Yeah, you can hear people kind of
wishwash on it a little bit, which once again you're
in a half empty stadium, and then you have a
face first face match and they are now an hour
two about over too and yeah, and they're sitting there.
They just kind of in and out on it. And
that isn't necessarily even the guy's fault because.
Speaker 1: Once you by the way, yeah he's forty one.
Speaker 3: Well either way, Cody is he's no, uh, he's no
Nick all this though he should be.
Speaker 1: Okay, who is who is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Lincoln?
Speaker 3: Oh that was him? Yeah, I believe I believe that
was him enabling.
Speaker 1: Hackenschmidts and uh called.
Speaker 3: This but but man, this match was it was fine,
it was good, but this is it too. It's like,
now Punk ends up in this situation. Punk has a
baby face. I'm waiting for them to finally find a
heel for him to wrestle. I mean, really, like, who
what was gone through the last heel he actually wrestled
as a baby face, because m yeah, that's true. Getting
to be two years ago.
Speaker 1: Man, I know we're forgetting about I miss Drew.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying what happens that's wrong with him? Right,
he's hurting, his.
Speaker 1: Feelings are hurt. Yeah, he's crying over Shamus has lost paycheck.
So his feelings are hurt. He's wondering how Shamus is
going to make ends meet.
Speaker 2: But by the way, in the prison, they should make
a Unicorn video with those two.
Speaker 1: That'd be funny.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, man. So now now Randy Orton's
back and Mandy Orton's a baby face. So now here's
our here's our main event picture, right, Babyface, Cody baby Face,
Punk Babyface, Randy baby Face, Roman Romans still baby face.
Speaker 1: Whether we want will win tomorrow, that's clearly yeah, baby Face,
Seth baby Face, Jay baby Face, Jimmy Right, Newtered baby Face,
Jacob baby Face, Dan Housen, Yeah yeah, Dan Housen, baby
a Knight, Heal dominic good luck.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: They could probably get a squeeze Enzo out tomorrow night
in cast, right, that might not happen.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's it.
Speaker 3: I'm almost hoping that. Yeah, I'm almost hoping in a way.
I'm like, if they're gonna bring cast back, I'm like,
can you put some heat on them?
Speaker 1: We need no will have something to do with like
Jake Paul or some bullshit like that. At some point,
That's what I think it's gonna be gonna go up
against the best nake Paul.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's funny you mentioned him. My mind goes to
to some point I'd almost rather push Logan Paul because
at least then I have a real heel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a heel.
Speaker 3: Then at some point where like yeah, he if I
send him out there and I say, act like a dick,
the audience is gonna agree. It's not going to be
a Roman thing where Roman goes out there He's like,
you all suck blow me. I'm better than everyone. I'm
the king of the world, and people like you. The
booth told me how big, Like Logan Paul will actually
go out there and be like, I'm a pretentious chowd
and people are bigger.
Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest heels are domb gun.
Speaker 2: The je Janelle Grant, that's a big heel.
Speaker 3: Ly she's a great person and and he's like State
cops a heel. Aside from the fact that they still
cheer him.
Speaker 2: They cheer him because he's a signer. No one wants
to go them. They don't care, they don't want to
He's a legacy guy. They don't want to boo a
son of a legacy guy.
Speaker 1: Like nobody wants Oh.
Speaker 3: By the way, Sammy James a baby face too, Like,
where where does it end?
Speaker 1: Might come back?
Speaker 3: Right, you might come back and they're gonna want to
boo him after overcoming it.
Speaker 1: I think bros a face after tonight? Right, yes, face,
Femi a baby face?
Speaker 3: Where are the heels?
Speaker 1: Where are the Heels's daughter? Who's sang that? God bless
America's baby? Oh she's a heels. She's gonna be a
heel tonight if she uses the internets. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love the idea of triple Julian Hall bring it back. Yeah,
my god, this is this is a this is a
big problem. I just listed off what twelve people on
the show that are regularly featured.
Speaker 1: Well, what is what? What is punk do to Monday?
What is punk do? Now? What is punk do after this? Now?
This was all fodder to bring Randy into Cody's world.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Cody is gonna peace out soon, miss,
because he's got to stop promoting that movie.
Speaker 1: You gotta tour, you gotta go out and do press. Shunks. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, Roman too, So.
Speaker 2: Roman might lose because they both have to go do press.
Speaker 1: But this fucking movie October is not that far away.
It's a couple of months away. They want that movie
to make money.
Speaker 2: That movie costs like a lot of money, and there's
a lot of big people attached to it, and it's
street Fighter.
Speaker 1: They expect it to make money. You Honestly, what they
should do is have a match between Roman and Cody
before the movie. Wouldn't that be this smart idea?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, you're right, But it's also I just
hear that and I go.
Speaker 2: But but but clearly Cody is going to be balls
deep with Randy for four or five months.
Speaker 1: With that, I know you can have him go to
a No d Q or something and then sucking a
movie like you know, yeah, yeah, Nick con money sounds like,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's absolutely positively zero heels that are main events. Dominic,
but Dominic's Dominic's a good heel, but he's not a threat.
Speaker 1: Not anymore. They him Joe Henry and Dan Housen. So
the pretty much told everybody where Dominic's fucking fu. And
then there's Gunther, who his big claim to faint now
is hurting old people.
Speaker 2: So hurting old people, and he may or may not
have a penis.
Speaker 1: He could be a lesbian.
Speaker 5: You don't know.
Speaker 3: I never knows. But yeah, the match was. The match
was fine, but once again we end up in this
place where Mish and I talk about this all the time.
Is that Okay, The matches themselves are good to find
most of the time. Sometimes you get a real good one,
but none of it goes anywhere, and the writing is
just insufferably bad and and not enjoyable.
Speaker 1: It's time. It's time for our Truth to make his return.
Main events are truth, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But the problem is there's miss there's no heels to
even beat our Truth up to.
Speaker 1: He other than going he is the heel was what
was he called himself? En? Yeah, ron Killings, the permanent staple,
Ron Killings. He can't fire me, Ron Killings, something like that.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine if of all the people, one of them, sorry,
one of the most charismatic guys to have been on
the show in the past twenty years, was able to
actually flip it on its head and become a heel
and a believable heel. And then but then he'd have
to literally turn and look at everybody and go, see,
that's this is how you do that.
Speaker 2: Because Bob, guys, is Randy a heel because he got
cheered from beating up Cody.
Speaker 1: And you know who's a heel? Guys, we didn't even
talk about him. What about Austin Theory and Maxine? Those
are big time, he's.
Speaker 2: Big, very intimidating Disney villain intimidation.
Speaker 1: There a good point you did. I didn't bring up
Maxine as a top he.
Speaker 2: If Family Matters was still on and there was a
villain at the local high school, Austin Theory would paint that.
Speaker 1: You paint that picture beautifully with Maxine. I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if Austin Theory would pass as
a villain in an episode of Saved by the Bell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, he's like five to eight, maybe five to seven,
I don't know, no, but this that's it.
Speaker 1: He looks like a.
Speaker 2: Mean guy at a country club that works at the
country club.
Speaker 1: He's like a villain in Caddyshack, like the back to
the Vince days though, guys, and just make all the
Asians and Mexicans heels like, yeah, just seems like it's simple.
I think they I think they're missing the boat. I
think they should look at the current climate and make
like they should have been here a while ago.
Speaker 2: They should make Antifa characters, they should make like democratic
socialist characters. Or Sammy could come out and talk about Mondami.
He could blame the views. It's just like like I'm
I don't know why they're sleeping on this. Roy's Keynes
could be a black militant and come out like Farook
and they call him Jr.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, just just run the do it.
Speaker 2: You're going to Saudi Arabia anyway next year, like forever,
like let's get it out of the way.
Speaker 3: He's the do you know how do you know how
funny it would be if Sammy's saying came out and
he was like, I'm the bad guy. I think everyone
should have health insurance.
Speaker 2: Like Boo was campaigning for Bernie Sanders the other day,
like you know, and it's just like Boo, He's like,
I don't think you should die of a tooth infection,
and I.
Speaker 1: Boo, I think they Dodgers should have gave Trump a ring.
That seems weird, right.
Speaker 3: Boo, Isn't it? Isn't it strange that a whole city
full of Mexican people would not want that to happen.
Speaker 1: Kevin's going to come back as a heel. Is Kevin
Owen's going to bear the burden of all the heels
he might because he's such a great fucking.
Speaker 3: Deal, But no one's gonna want to him either, because.
Speaker 1: Because he was hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, unless he comes out and does the sympathy
like I was really sad, but you made me feel better,
thank you, And then he just cuts like insane promo
and be like, and what happened while I was gone?
You make people like den, how is it famous? Are
you serious?
Speaker 3: What if he just breaking people's necks and gimmick?
Speaker 1: I feel like the nzo Are you serious?
Speaker 3: Nobody?
Speaker 2: Let's this guy like that's what they should That's what
he should do.
Speaker 1: He should be like I was out, I was sad,
Thank you so much. I appreciate it. My son looks
like mish. It's weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know why my son could be mish and
then like and then he thinks about it, goes but
you know what happened when I was gone?
Speaker 1: Look at who you cheered, Joe Henry? What is that like?
He could do that?
Speaker 2: That would be kind of fucking amazing if he just
caught a skating thing, being like like.
Speaker 1: When I was here, I wrestled. None of these people
actually wrestled.
Speaker 2: They say things and you cheer them, and I've thrown
myself off lathers with.
Speaker 1: Shane McMahon like he should do that, be like, yeah,
you people.
Speaker 2: Are fucking retarded. I was killing myself here to get
you to like me because I didn't look like all
these buff guys. And look at the people you're cheering.
Denhousen is Gary Coleman's size. The favorite bend is taking
back Sunday? Are you serious with this guy? Like that's
what you should do.
Speaker 3: The only way you're gonna get heat anymore. I feel
like is too upset the w W E. Disney adults
that occupy the audience by.
Speaker 2: Saying that and being like, why would you pay money
to take pictures with Den House and he's smaller than you?
Speaker 1: That's weird. Spend goolie at the Huracan. Everybody knows that.
Don't you think that would be a great gimmick. That's
like pipe bomb level stuff.
Speaker 2: You basically flip it and go, yeah, I killed myself
for you guys.
Speaker 1: Everybody said I'd look good. Literally everything you just said,
would make him the biggest fucking baby face on the whole.
Sh Oh no, I don't think so. Well.
Speaker 3: The tough thing is is now he.
Speaker 2: Was insulting the crowd for loving Danausen. Would not make
him a babe. They love that guy.
Speaker 1: Why WC you would take that one and run wild
with it. Absolutely, I could be with.
Speaker 2: My friends in ae W making lots of money, working
six hours a week, but I stayed here instead.
Speaker 1: He should do he should say that, but.
Speaker 2: His friends do nothing and make millions and barely walk.
Speaker 1: My only heels you can believe that are honest anymore
are the ones that are compliant, the ones that comply
with the system. Maybe not as cheesy as the authority
kind of shit, but maybe something like minded. I remember
it wasn't that long ago, and I never got a
chance to do it. I remember Stephen Richards was talking
about it with James about why the RTC wouldn't work
in twenty twenty six. Like kept thinking to myself, I'm like, dude,
you're absolutely wrong. The idealism of not just censorship but
conformity is the ultimate fucking heel move. Selling out is
the heel move. WWE itself is more heel now than
at any point with Vince McMahon.
Speaker 3: But the problem that the biggest problem with that is
that if somebody came out and was like, I'm a
I'm for the commercialism. The people love the commercialism of
the Disney adults that are listing.
Speaker 1: They don't like being told that they're a part of
the problem. Joe, nobody likes being told that they're a
part of the system. That you're a cog in the machine,
and the reason that this machine runs well is because
of your fucking blood money. Mark, Like, nobody told that shit.
Speaker 3: I know, but there wasn't. There was a product placement
tonight for Dan Housen fake money.
Speaker 1: That you buy with human money, human mindy. Yeah, like
this is where waware. Like that's so here's the difference, right,
you're presenting this, this is actually what the company is doing,
and people aren't aware of looking at it through that lens.
We're looking at it through like a hyper microscopic lens
of staring at all the fucking faults that WWE has.
But a normal casual viewer isn't scrutinizing shit on this level.
But if you made a character or a group or
some kind of faction that represents these reprehensible things that
WWE does. You would bring more attention to the commercialism,
and therefore you would make them make WWE the biggest
heel in the company. It's just you don't have to
go through all this crazy level shit. WWE can still
sell the dan Housen fucking butt plugs and make tons
of money doing it. It's just now you're at a
point that people realize, Hey, I'm giving this shying corporation
money for a dan Housen butt plug. What do I
need with a dan Housen butt plug? Am I part
of the problem? Am I the reason that the storyline suck?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: And then you would have this faction confirm it and say, yes,
you're the fucking problem and we accept you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But what worries me, dude, is there's a lot
of people that don't think that it's bad, like the
people that are left, and there's.
Speaker 1: People that would listen to John's KO promo and would
cheer fucking KO after that. Like, you're always going to
find that group of people. And with as fucking mixed
as WWE is now in twenty twenty six, you just
listened off thirty fucking babyfaces, but yet everybody's fighting everybody
week to fucking week. So clearly the drawn lines of
what's good and what's evil in WWE is subjective, So
why are we even pretending that it's not. If anything,
we're the fossils for wanting these clear cut storylines. WWE
has made everything so fucking fluid that it's really up
to the individual tastes of the per if somebody's good
or not.
Speaker 3: Well, that's where I kind of feel like they even
go the route as everybody being a babyface. And I
don't remember who it was, but I heard so much.
Maybe it was Maybe it was Stevie, I don't remember.
Somebody was talking about it where they were like, WWE
has fully embraced the idea, and I've said this a
thousand times, where they're like, you come up with the story,
you do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1: It's up to you who you like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you cheer for whoever you want.
Speaker 1: It's alas to think like you could like who you like.
Speaker 2: It's fine, No, you should tell me in a story
who I'm supposed to like by creating the story, right.
Speaker 1: It is like lazy. I agree, with you, but that's
not how ww's been doing it. And I don't know
if this is because of the more recent involvement with TKO.
We saw the shit that happened to rustle Mania with
Shapiro and whatever, and he was saying that all the
creative storylines that WWE does now goes through us, So
we don't really know the true chain of command. But
it seems like TKO is last final shining sword in
the stone. And if that's the case, then that's why
these storylines have suffered again. And I know both of
you guys have talked about this before that TKO isn't
a creative company. They're in the business of sports. They're
in the business of fight sports. At what point have
they dealt with anything on the level of entertainment. They haven't.
They haven't. What have they got? They got UFC, they
got WWE and power slap Like, yeah, this is creative.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is also welcome to the world of
private equity shit and taking companies and bushing get together
where it's like, hey, we own a burrito uh chain
now and they're like, does anybody here even know how
to make a burrito? And they're like no, we don't
even know what that is.
Speaker 2: Own brito thread Joe, So I can't have a burrito,
so thank you, but I can't eat bread like you know.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's corporations not to run the company.
Speaker 3: They'll run.
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest, guys, the honest, the honest truth
is that people who run the company don't like or
watch wrestling.
Speaker 1: No, they're just there to help make money through wrestling,
like the vehicle.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like that, like that wrestling is the vehicle
for them to profit without knowing anything about wait for it, wrestling.
Speaker 1: But you would think if somebody like a Triple H
or even as Stephanie would see what this company is
becoming and see the potential for creative storylines and creative characters.
Jesus Christ, she's Vince rick Mann's daughter. They don't own
it anymore. They don't care. You brought, you broke it,
you buy it. They don't care. They got paid.
Speaker 2: Stephanie probably walked away with fifty million dollars the fucking deal, Like.
Speaker 1: Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Like they couldn't possibly make any more money from this
than they've made early and their motivation and they're just.
Speaker 3: Happy that they can get their kids to sing the
fucking song.
Speaker 1: Ye, that's the payoff.
Speaker 2: They stick around so they're kid can sing God bless
America flat.
Speaker 1: That's why they stick around, and like so easy to
turn this whole fucking ship around. Like, I think that's
the biggest pay right. And we talk about this all
the time, Joe and I say this all the time.
The talent is there, the matches are entertaining. You have
people with more capabilities now than ever before, and you
had the ability to make decent storylines. It's just nobody is.
I know there's a lot of love for NXT going
on right now, but I happen to think that's because
Ron SmackDown are doing so poorly. Yeah, AW is on'
exactly lighting the world on fire. Other than for AW fans,
Like you're at the point now that when who was
it that they said we were just talking about this, Joe,
that they were asking her to leave and you were like, oh,
they wanted her to go at a w And I'm like, no,
they want her to go back to Japan. Oh God, Julia, Julia.
Because there was some post I don't know if it
was real or not. I think it was kind of
a gag, but she talked about the balls fraud of
Triple H and I think that was just a Reddit
post or some shit. If there was actual responses from
people that she should leave, and we're questioning it, like
where would you go aaw and it was like the
unanimous decision was no, just go back to Miracles, go
back to Japan. Fuck America, Like the American wrestling product
has gotten miserable through and through and it shouldn't be
that way. We literally have every edge in the world
that we should have the best product out there, and
we're failing on all cylinders from the independence all the
way up there. What's good anymore? I mean, seriously, the
best storylines that happened this year John happened in Triple
fucking A pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, because Dom is over and they send
in them there turned out to be a godsend. I
think the reality is just like aew professional people who
years ago you would have some some sort of caveat
like oh, like they don't know about wrestling, but they
worked in TV or they worked in WB Network or they.
Speaker 1: Worked on Saturday Night Live. Now it's just like, well, yeah, no,
they're just they have.
Speaker 2: A they have a big social media presence, so let's
you know, let's bring them into book Let's bring them
in Oh yeah, no, they had a podcast where they
talked about things, so let's give them creative control.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. They're hiring people who.
Speaker 2: Have no experience in any form of entertainment or anything
that resembles telling the story.
Speaker 1: They just had followers. But tell me, that's what I'm saying.
It's not like WWE could waive an employee fucking contract
out there and they could get a lot of writers,
creative people the bike, couldn't they Yeah, but they Yeah,
but why do that?
Speaker 2: We can get somebody who has fifty thousand TikTok followers
who just wants to be in the business, and that's
the end of it, and that's who they're hiring for.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, dude, there's two things about this that I I'm
not hopeful about it. But it's just two kind of
you know, stray things. Right, twenty twenty six is going
to end, and the people that were paying close enough
attention to it are going to say the best angle
and professional wrestling was, who was the real fake Mexican.
That's going to be everyone's going to stop and see.
Speaker 1: That storyline was a lot more romantic than that.
Speaker 3: Come on, oh, I know, I know, No, it came
out great, I believe me. I'm not saying it, but
it's just it's funny. It works, but it's funny. It's
actually funny and.
Speaker 1: Very funny, and it's entertaining, and it was it.
Speaker 3: Was the closest thing that I would get, to say,
an actual productive professional wrestling storyline that was worth watching.
But still it's funny because the set.
Speaker 5: And roman coming out every week, so going number one,
number one on I only beat you, I only beat
you twenty times and you beat me twenty five as
a fuck, right, But like that's one.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is there's just like part of
me and it's a it's like a positive thing for
me where I'm hoping that wrestling fans are observing this
and picking up on the fan I'm hoping that in
their life in general, seeing what TK always done to WWE,
it's at least semi radicalizing them to realizing no, no, no no,
But it's it's making them realize, like we were just
talking about, maybe the company that owns Panera Bread shouldn't
also owe your healthcare. Maybe the people didn't do anything,
well no, no, but I want them to at least
observe it and take it in and go, oh, this
isn't good.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to do that. We literally have
people in this stream tonight shit out of us because
we had negative WWE opinions. We regularly get the shit
kicked out of us because we have fucking criticisms of AW.
These fans are not going to realize, shit, Joe. What
they're going to do is cope. That's literally what you're
going to do. They're going to keep batting for the system.
They're going to keep falling in line, and it's like,
that's what's going to happen. There's not going to be
any point where the frog realizes that the pot is
too fucking hot. Yes, it's not gonna happen. And by
the way, realize this.
Speaker 2: The other day, Brian Alvarez Boldface did that was the
best aw Post show of all time when scores of
people countless people on social media said this is terrible.
Speaker 1: A twenty minute overrun.
Speaker 2: The show is trash, yet the highest one of the
highest rating podcasts. Pundits, However, you want to paint them
literally turned around and said this was the best AEW
post show of all John.
Speaker 1: I don't believe he's even lying. I don't believe Alvarez
is lying, you know what I believe. I believe Alvarez
has trained himself in such a way that he believed
his own ship. Well, yeah, because you can't, you know,
but he had. But he buried the show two weeks ago.
He had a famous burying the show saying this is terrible, this.
Speaker 2: Is not good, that's terrible, and then he got a scolding,
and then he turned around and said, this is the
best ae w SHL I have ever seen.
Speaker 1: It's difficult to say what's good and what's bad anymore
because it literally changes from person to person. You will
walk into a split room of fans.
Speaker 2: Based on what they're saying mission how it impacts their following.
Speaker 1: But I mean, the only the only way you know
something is bad is if it's unanimously bad, like that
Dan Housen Joe Hendry segment on Yeah, that was unanimously
fucking bad for everyone to go, yeah, we have a
problem here, miss.
Speaker 2: If anything, that was the catalyst for people to really
go over the top and be like see, I told
you this creative has been terrible for years and now it's.
Speaker 1: Stupid though too. The A fans won't see now you
finally see WWE sucks, and I'm like, there's a million
and one segments that Abe has done that has been
just as dog water as this. I don't know why
people are pointing the finger like, oh but see mine's
better this week, like it's just yeah, but anyway, events
because we haven't even gotten to the main event yet,
I'm sorry, which was Obami defeating brock Lesner with Paul
Haym and Helena Cell twelve minutes. It was a good match.
It was very ginger with brock Lesnar a lot of
ginger tonight. Uh no, he's Slater on the card though,
But yeah, there's a couple of power bombs that brock
Lesner was just set down politely. But I did like
the spot where Brock ripped up the match or the
mat and then fucking did the tombstone on the wood.
I loved that spot. I thought that was fun. Yeah,
Rock always gets the fun spots, whether it's a forklift
or I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you, is is brock Listener going
to be allowed to retire.
Speaker 1: Now is that it? Like? Now, I don't think of
that's it show.
Speaker 2: I think they just give him so much money he
has he can't say I know, but I was he
supposed to turn that kind of money down to work
three shows a year, maybe do a little.
Speaker 1: TV, do a little TV. Just do to TVs.
Speaker 2: You could leave right after, you could show up a
half hour before, leave five minutes after.
Speaker 1: Just sign to be there. Paul's going to be there.
Paul will do the heavy lifted brock. Paul will do that.
That's what it is. But like, and that's the thing too,
It's like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, look, I know a lot of people like in
music who play like shows and they could probably do better.
And they go, why are they playing that show? And
I go, do you know much money they got to
play that show? You can't turn that money down?
Speaker 1: What are they supposed to do? Like, you know, like
you can't leave that money on the table.
Speaker 3: And and that's it is. I fully understand that, But
there is also this point where how much how much
money does an individual have to have before they go
I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, there's like a sad. It's
not sad.
Speaker 3: I mean, you are fucking flying around in private jets
and shit, but.
Speaker 1: There's still Arena's makeup. I mean, Jesus Christ, I assume
that a lot of this money that Brock isn't doing
at this point it's for his kid. Come on, yeah, yeah,
it's for the future. I mean, look, he's getting older.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I watched a video. Who's that guy BC, the MMA guy?
Speaker 2: He's the wrestler, you know, I'm talking about Joe, the
guy who like challenged Brock a bunch of years ago.
Speaker 1: Cormier, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah, Daniel Cormier.
Speaker 2: I watched something recently with David Cort and they asked him,
do you regret doing that Brock Lesnard thing since it
didn't go anywhere? And he was like, no, because Brock
is the fucking man and that would have been great.
Speaker 1: And they go, how come that didn't go anywhere?
Speaker 2: He goes, it didn't go anywhere because Brock was literally
making like six million.
Speaker 1: Dollars to just do a few d W shows, Like
why would he fight me?
Speaker 2: Legit like he's and he goes and I get it now,
Like I he said this recently he was like, Brock
was literally making like three million a year in WWE
part time, but he's supposed to have a real MMA
match with me. Of course, Like we just couldn't get
it off the ground because Brock was making so much
money in wrestling and that's just life, I know, but that.
Speaker 1: Is no too. Vince wanted to be competitive, So I'm
sure that anytime that a fight came up for Brock,
Vince was sliding over a briefcase of show it makes.
Speaker 2: The reality was what if Rock lost and now he's
your WWE killing machine And Daniel Cormier, who he's a
lot bigger than by the way, guys, a lot bigger,
just humiliated him in a fucking in an MMA ring
at a UFC ring in front of millions of people.
But you're going to try to make money off of
him fighting Roman Reigns for the ninth time at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: That a lot at stake and that's why that never
fucking happened. Look, Brock, Brock means something. I think, honestly,
I'll be very honest with you. Do I think Brock.
They're keeping Brock in the mix because they are getting
this SOUDI deal probably done in the next year to
eighteen months, and they probably like, you know, it would
be great if when we buy the company, brock Lesner
could come.
Speaker 1: Sometimes a couple of times. That's what that is, Joe,
because they need that. They're gonna need that to get
people in the door.
Speaker 3: And I get it, but almost for I don't even
want to say like for his First of all, you
got to know that he's second of this. He's sick
of it. The fact that he did that whole spiel
at WrestleMania, that's a sign that he doesn't want to
do it either that he's he's ready to go the
best the best case scenario. I miss you mentioned Sable
a little bit a couple of minutes ago. There the
best case scenario here is a Sable pulse of Giselle
and looks at him and goes, that's enough, honey, we
have enough money.
Speaker 1: You don't have to fucking do this anymore.
Speaker 3: And to the people that would say yeah, but like
he's the beast and the beast, and I want to
see the beast that I'm like, do you remember those
last few years of the Undertaker? That was the most
depressing ship so fucking like, go back, I dare you.
I there's a couple hundred people listening to this right now.
I dare you to go back and watch Roman Reigns
wrestle Undertaker at Mania and not feel a deep, deep
sadness for the Undertaker while watching that. It was I mean,
if you want to, if you want to look at
it and go, this is this? This is fucking ridiculous
because why was this even allowed?
Speaker 1: Why did this even Roman to be the next Rock?
And then, guys, don't forget the next Monday Night.
Speaker 2: And Philly and Raw one of the worst, Like Roman
got booed off of television. He got booed because of
that match, guys, because he won and he went over
booed off of TV, like they had to cut the commercial.
Speaker 3: It was horrible and it hurt him. It hurt both of.
Speaker 1: The guys, both of them hurt both of them.
Speaker 3: But that's it. It's like I think of that, and
I go, do we ever want to see Brock be that?
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Brock become that? Yeah, and
and the.
Speaker 3: Ideas once again, like you hope it's a Gizelle type
situation where she looks and she goes, honey, we got
enough money and I'm gonna start fucking my uh Brazilian
jiu jitsu instructor. If you keep doing this shit, because
it's stupid, it's stupid. You're wasting your time, You're wasting
You're gonna hurt your body. You're leaving the house for
no fucking reason. I'd rather have you hanging with me
here doing nothing.
Speaker 1: I think they want him in the Saudi Arabia picture.
They need names. Joe Hendry and Dan Hausen are not
going to draw crowds to Saudi Arabia. They're gonna think.
Speaker 2: They're gonna think Dan Housen is uh, you know, haram
there and fucking you know, because he's a demon or
some ship, like they don't have anybody. Brock is a name,
like Brock is tried and true, scary guy UFC Champ,
Like you know, they'll pay money, They'll they'll sell six
goats to go get fucking tickets to that shit, Like
they don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna sell six goats to go see dan
Oba will be huge by the time Saudi buys w
W e oh yeah, oh yeah, Like tonight where Brock
lesnar came out after the match, grabbed the microphone and
called him the future. I think there was a lot
of weight behind those words. Like then, I know him
putting the boots in the ring was one thing, but man,
now he's openly telling the audience outside of k fabe
that this is the guy that's going to be the
future sure of this company, like.
Speaker 2: They want to you, missed, miss They've already messed that up,
as you've said already, you said like this week, they've
already messed that up.
Speaker 1: Honestly, they've already up.
Speaker 3: Let's see what they move them on to next. I mean,
there's this part.
Speaker 1: Of the winner of seth Roman. Yeah, he's just that's
what it has to be. Joe has to be the
winner of seth Roman.
Speaker 3: How am I supposed to feel positive about the way
that they write this show and not just think that
they're gonna go Obafemi?
Speaker 1: Hell of a fucking job there.
Speaker 3: We tried to throw a white blanket on you and
you were able to kick your way out of it.
How about some seth rawlins, how about some seth rowans.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have You're gonna have to do the job.
I'm sorry you gotta lay down, you gotta do it.
Speaker 3: And also by the way too, And this is what's
crazy to me. If you put him in a feud
with Seth Rowlands and he beat him six times in
a row, it still wouldn't do anything for him. No,
it still doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: Right, So the problem is that there's nobody built up
big enough for an Oba. Like. That's the other thing too,
is they've given him brock Lesner. Not too many people
you could put up against brock Lesner that people can
have a believable match against. They would have to do
something on the level of like a Randy Orton or
a Cody Rhodes. But again that's more babyface versus baby
face violence. I don't know gunther versus Oba. Wow, do
you pull that trigger now? Miss this time of year,
because I don't know who else? What is he gonna do?
Go up against forehead for four weeks?
Speaker 2: Well, what's the the big The big card in the
fall is survivor?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you do you do Gunther Oba headlining? Yeah,
they're gonna do. Obviously everything wants to know you. Now
you put gun through in a five way tag and
just pray that everybody forgets about him, so royal rumble.
Speaker 2: Well you do, like could gun thor Oba headline one
night of SummerSlam. But what's the consequence, like what what
what's the bragging rights?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: You know, well that's the problem with making a character
like this.
Speaker 1: Well does eventually you run out of people to kill them?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Well they did just introduce those new ESPN belts. Oh good, Yeah,
that's good. Yeah, the Janelle Janelle Grant memorial belts.
Speaker 2: Like you know.
Speaker 3: What, what is it called? The At least I'm not
on the Epstein files that have been released Championship.
Speaker 1: I believe release files are totally different.
Speaker 2: Picture belt how deeply belt belts?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this, just whatever you think
you said, yes or no? Right, do you see Vince
McMahon's name in those fucking files that haven't been released?
Yes or no?
Speaker 1: No, But don't be surprised. Eyes, if Saudi Arabia buys
the company, if they bring Vince.
Speaker 2: Out, m don't be surprised.
Speaker 3: What do you think Vince and the files that haven't
been released?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he's that connected. I think can business.
I think he had enough of his own people to
fucking deep dick, He didn't need to go over to
Epstein's house. Yeah, he was shitting on a subordinate's head.
Why didn't he need the Epstein files? Like like he was.
Speaker 2: On a subordinate's head and sharing her with other men,
like passing her around.
Speaker 1: Like a fucking like seriously, like why would he He didn't?
He didn't. He had his own ship. He was the
scene of that.
Speaker 3: How's the wrestling world?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the Epstein of the wrestling world.
Speaker 3: Could you can you just almost imagine an eighty year
old fucking senile Vince looking you up and down and
going I abuse adults, you know, like he's just like
discussing at you, like he's like not children.
Speaker 2: Don't be surprised if Saudi Arabia buys the company, if
they bring Vince out their overseas, No one's gonna care.
Women are less than goats there. They don't give a
fuck about abusing women in that culture. They don't give
Women aren't allowed to fucking do much. They're barely allowed
to drive. You think they're gonna give a fuck about
getting shit?
Speaker 3: How about just the fact, and I don't have all
the details on it, the boxer that they brought out
for that segments.
Speaker 1: He's a woman beater. Yeah, everybody knows that.
Speaker 3: And this is where and this is where, like when
we start getting into like the nuance of WWE having
certain people show up whatever it might be certain you know,
wrestlers from the past or whomever. Like, they have no
qualms about this. They promote human cockfighting.
Speaker 2: They just hear us they're going to Saudi Arabia permanently.
Speaker 1: The company will be owned by a foreign entity.
Speaker 2: Where women should is not women rights and ship not
a big deal, like like it's a silly idea by Wardos.
Speaker 1: What about women's wrong shits? John? Are those wrongs?
Speaker 2: Well, you know they do let women drive there now,
which they touted two years ago when they went there
as some big accomplishment.
Speaker 1: You know things that happened here one hundred years ago.
Well let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: So, is that when we start seeing intergender matches, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, intergender matches will be only FEMA beating the shit
out of Live Morgan in Riod in front of eighty
thousand people.
Speaker 3: Because she didn't make him. Yeah, she didn't make his
breakfast correctly or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she blaked in her Burka and you know
that's sexually suggestive.
Speaker 1: That's a let's get ready to wrap this up. Favorite,
least favorite, greater than night Joe.
Speaker 3: Favorite thing, funny enough, probably all this and gun there.
I think it's just the match itself told a nice
little fun story. There was an actual clear cut heal
and Babyface wow crazy right. The worst match would had
to have been the woman's tag match. I mean really,
once again, there's only six matches on these shows, and
for the most part, they're all fine. Like we said
a million times, the entering shit is not the problem.
It's the fact that the story suck and the characters
of dogshit and the writing is awful. And there's ninety
five minutes of ads to get twenty five minutes of
wrestling for a grade WWE twenty twenty six C minus.
Speaker 1: See, Okay, that's pretty fair, you know. Yeah, what do
you think, John.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give this a solid B because the matches
were not bad, but they were not signature second to WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Pay per view quality matches.
Speaker 2: They weren't you know, they would have been great pl
matches or sam A main events matches or you know,
raw main event matches but they weren't. They weren't like perfect.
They were fine, but they weren't perfect. Worst was the
Bellas with those three broads. I don't know anything about
these women that don't care. I thought the best match
was the main because, to be frank with you, I
thought Brock might win.
Speaker 1: I don't call me.
Speaker 2: I just had a feeling that Brock was gonna win
the match, and I'm glad he didn't win the match.
I'm hopeful for Oba. I think that that is a
future for sure if they book it correctly. Mass Appeal
looks like a wrestler would be an amazing heel, an
amazing heel, but that's probably down the road. I would
give this a solid beat like it was not great,
a little slightly better than average.
Speaker 1: Least favorite for me was I agree with you, John,
fatal influence versus the Bella's the page thing. People read
that from a mile away. Nothing really great about it.
I like JC Jane, but this was arguably it was
thank god it was short, but believe it or not,
my favorite match of the night was Gunther and Nick
all this old man here. I really liked the old man,
all this coming out of his shell and showing everybody
what a seventy five year old can do out there.
But I think that there's a lot of overhead with
all this. I like, you know, obviously his wife, his
family and stuff. So yeah, I mean, hopefully this brings
all this down to Cody Rhoads at some point, you know,
and maybe they rekindle some of that past. It'd be
nice to see all this out there in a wrestling
ring now with a little bit of a storyline behind him.
Just got to train Wade Barrett and Michael Coles to
stop calling him old every fucking week, and maybe I
could do something with him, you know all I'd give
it a see I go see, like take it or
leave it. I agree with both of you on this.
A lot of exhibition matches. Nothing really that feels anything,
Nothing important was accomplished tonight other than maybe the Bronco
with thing. Other than that, if any of these matches
did or didn't happen, I don't think it has any
long term effects.
Speaker 3: So it's it's very hard to watch a three hour
long wrestling show with six matches and every one of
them is almost a dead end.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think tomorrow? Just because I won't be tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Do you guys think tomorrow has any potential to be
better than tonight?
Speaker 1: Roland Seth John, how could it be? Well, it's not
a great card. We're just gonna have Dan call in
to to do the last match because I'll be asleep
by that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that did is? I mean, just just from
the jump. There's six matches and if I remember correctly,
one of them contains Baron Corbin and the other wing
contains two of the Shield members that I could possibly
gives a totally.
Speaker 1: Got main event Baron Corbin on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah I know, yeah, yeah, fuck yeah, Yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Burr mysterious. Man. Wo there's amateur Night in Dixie Housing.
Yeah for Penta in Chad. That's that's who I feel. Yeah,
they're looking at it could be the match of the night,
the opener, so they both get the fun out of it.
Will be. It probably will be. Actually, you know what.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at that. My god, I'm looking at that
card and I'm thinking to myself, Hey, no pressure, Chad,
no pressure, you know, like, my god, he's in his
hometown and yeah, that's gonna be about it.
Speaker 1: Wow, mostly slop but one and done. Chad. Five minute match, Chad,
that's what He's not a major? Wait?
Speaker 3: Wait, what's the woman's match on that show? I completed?
Speaker 1: Tiffany Stratton, Lash Legend, Charlotte Flair, Cargo, Chelsea Bootoks, Botox
on a pole match Housend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, that's this well, hid Jesus Christ,
I have a feeling tonight, we're gonna we're gonna look
back on this with rose colored glasses.
Speaker 1: Guys, tonight, it's gonna end up being a bee just
by default. I know we're gonna have to go.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like with it people revisit a movie
or an album, They're gonna be like Actually, in hindsight,
that was yesterday, so I had to change my whole
opinion because the next day was cucka doo doo shits.
So all right, time to go take our twenty four
hour break fellas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, much love, everybody, check out s football media. Follow
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Lee Sanders showing up from the RCWR show and uh yeah,
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