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That's eight o 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,400 one three eight zero eight zero eight seven. That's Recent 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,799 Cleaning Services. Eight oh one three eight zero eight zero 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,879 age seven. Let's get out to the online. Welcome to 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,200 Tim Healey, voice of the Arizona Sun Devils. Tim, how 32 00:01:31,239 --> 00:01:33,040 you living well? 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,079 Speaker 1: It's the Arizona State sun Devils. 34 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: I know, I got I apologize, Arizona State sun Devils. 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,799 How dare I? And I'm from the great state of Arizona. 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,000 I messed up? I apologize. 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's surprising how many UH reporters on 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,000 the national scene do the same thing. I mean, it's 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 it's mind boggling over the years, because the funny thing 40 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:00,640 to me is that you never hear people different, you know, 41 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:05,040 call them the Michigan Spartans or the Michigan State Wolverines, 42 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:11,000 but boin nationwide, even on ESPN sometimes you have you know, 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,280 commentators talking about the Arizona sun Devils or the Arizona 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,240 State Wildcats, and you know, just one of those things, 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,280 I guess, but you have to fight for your own 46 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:26,759 respect and ongoing process. For the sun Devils, obviously, they. 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,599 Speaker 2: I apologize that sickening is maddening, but I will say 48 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:33,199 this is Arizona State team is well coached, and they 49 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:36,840 are talented. And look, I would say, you know, the 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,159 combo of football and basketball right now, I feel like 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,280 it's on the rise in Tempee. How are you feeling 52 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:42,639 about it? 53 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'd say, yeah, football definitely is on the rise 54 00:02:47,879 --> 00:02:51,840 under Kenny Dillingham. A Big Twelve championship that came out 55 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,360 of nowhere last year. I mean, we were picked to 56 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,520 finish what sixteenth last in the Big Twelve, and they 57 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:00,439 end up winning the conference championship and coming within a 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,879 fourth and thirteen stop in the Peach Bowl of beating 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Texas and advancing to the quarter to the semi finals 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 of last year's College Football Playoff. And this year they 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,159 backed it up with what I thought was a really 62 00:03:13,319 --> 00:03:17,080 solid eight win season. Solid when you consider the fact 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,159 that they were missing some key players for a good 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,080 chunk of the year, including their best receiver, Jordan Tyson, 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,240 who is onto the NFL and their star quarterback Sam Levitt, 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,919 who's in the transfer portal and to the best of 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,240 my knowledge, still looking for a landing spot there. But 68 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:35,680 the Devils had an eight win season, and I thought 69 00:03:35,719 --> 00:03:37,560 put on a really good show in the Sun Bowl 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,360 last week, even though they were missing thirty five players. 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,080 They put up six hundred and nineteen yards of offense 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,319 against the defending or the current Atlantic Coast Conference champions 73 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:51,319 in Duke before falling in a high scoring game at 74 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:55,360 the Sun Ball. So football on an upward trajectory basketball, 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 it's been you know. The season got off to a 76 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:02,599 nice start for Bobby Hurley's team. The Sun Devils won 77 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:05,919 nine of their first eleven games, put on a great 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,120 showing at the Maui Invitational Thanksgiving Week, advanced to the 79 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:14,360 championship game in Maui before losing to USC in the 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,399 title game. Had some really good quality wins in the 81 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:22,680 non conference over Texas, Oklahoma, Washington State, a win at Hawaii. 82 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:26,160 Rallied from nineteen down in the second half to beat 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,319 a good Santa Clara team in a neutral site game 84 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:34,600 in Henderson, Nevada. But the last three games they've taken 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,199 a step backward. They've lost their last three in a 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,759 row have the Sun Devils, including two losses in their 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,959 last two games in what I thought were highly winnable 88 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:49,079 home games against Oregon State right before Christmas, and they 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,519 lost at home to Colorado Saturday and their Big twelve opener. 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,879 And among the challenges for the team the last three games, 91 00:04:56,199 --> 00:04:59,560 they've suddenly gone dry from three point range. They were 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,199 a pretty a good three point shooting team for most 93 00:05:02,199 --> 00:05:04,319 of the season up in the I don't know, thirty 94 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:06,879 eight to thirty nine percent range, But in the last 95 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,120 three games they're shooting nineteen percent from outside the arc, 96 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:14,439 and they're getting good looks, they're just not shooting them well, 97 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,439 and a lot of it I think it's just a 98 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:20,040 confidence issue. And you know, hopefully tonight they can get 99 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:22,360 a few to fall early, because I think that makes 100 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:25,800 a difference. And in conjunction with that, another problem is 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,800 that the Devils have gotten off to very slow starts. 102 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Their last three games. They've basically fallen behind by double 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,439 digit margins in the first half of each of these 104 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:39,720 last three games, and not coincidentally, they've lost. So basketball 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,319 is you know, you know, football, I think very much 106 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:48,759 on an upward trajectory. Basketball challenges await to. Certainly, the 107 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:51,319 Big Twelve is the I think the best basketball conference 108 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:54,480 in the country, and the Sun Devils tonight start an 109 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,800 unbelievably tough stretch where they play three of their next 110 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 four games on the road, all of the road games 111 00:06:01,639 --> 00:06:05,720 against top ten ranked opponents. They have BYU tonight, they 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,160 have Arizona in Tucson next Wednesday night and Arizona's number 113 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:12,519 one in the country. And then on Sunday, January eighteenth, 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,959 the Devil's go to Houston and the Cougars are ranked 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,360 seventh in the nation. So that's that's a gauntlet right there, 116 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:20,319 and challenges dual weight. 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,439 Speaker 2: Arizona state net ranking ninety four. They're nine and five 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,120 on the season, ze one in conference play. But I 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,360 look at their Quad one, Quad two opportunities. They're competitive 120 00:06:29,399 --> 00:06:31,360 in all these games, I mean, sixty five seventy, So 121 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:35,040 we know Gonzaga is a very good team. You were 122 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:37,839 on a you were at home. Maybe that's why he 123 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,439 kept it close, but neutral game versus Southern California seventy 124 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,319 five eighty eight, you gotta win versus Oklahoma on a 125 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,600 neutral court, that was a nice dub. The UCLA loss 126 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:49,839 lost by thirteen, that was in a way setting. So 127 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,000 how competitive has ASU been in these Quad one Quad 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,319 two games? You guys are three and one in Quad 129 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:57,399 two opportunities. 130 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been, you know, competitive in most of their games. 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,639 They really don't get blown out of any games. All 132 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,399 three of these games that they've lost, they've been in them. 133 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,120 You know. Even they lost by thirteen at UCLA, And 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,480 if they had just had a bad shooting night from 135 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,839 three point range at UCLA, they might have won. They 136 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:21,240 only made four of twenty six three point attempts in 137 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,600 that game. If they had made eight of twenty six, 138 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,920 that wouldn't exactly be lighting it up, but it would 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,680 have made a huge difference and they might have been 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,040 able to win the basketball game. And another problem is 141 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:34,879 not only are they not hitting threes, but their opponents 142 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:38,959 these last three games have been ASU has not been 143 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:41,800 good defensively these last three games, giving up an average 144 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,439 of eighty eight points in the last three games, and 145 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,360 their opponents are shooting I think something like forty one 146 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:51,199 forty two percent from three point range the last three games. 147 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:54,120 So it's been kind of a double edged sword for them. 148 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,160 But yeah, they're competitive in all these games. You know, 149 00:07:57,199 --> 00:07:59,319 they lost, as you said, by twelve at home to 150 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:02,680 gun Zaga. They were in that game all the way, 151 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:06,000 but Gonzaga kind of had control of that game most 152 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,120 of the way. But they're you know, Gonzaga is a 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,680 great basketball team. In the USC game, I think the 154 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Sun Devils just ran out of gas, you know, playing 155 00:08:14,079 --> 00:08:17,000 their third game in three days at the Maui Invitational, 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,439 and as luck would have it, I don't know why 157 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,319 they did it, but this year at Maui, the championship 158 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,079 game on the day before Thanksgiving was scheduled for nine 159 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,279 to thirty in the morning Hawaii time, So the Sun 160 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:34,639 Devils had very little turnaround from their Tuesday evening one 161 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,600 hundred to ninety four went over Washington State in the 162 00:08:37,639 --> 00:08:41,159 semi final to get rested and ready to play USC. 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,919 But they just kind of ran out of gas in 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,200 that game. And these last three losses, as I said, 165 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,519 they've they've been competitive, but these last two games home 166 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,000 games against Oregon State and Colorado are games that you know, 167 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,399 the Sun Devils just have to figure those are games 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 they need to win, and they just could not get 169 00:08:58,519 --> 00:08:59,159 it done. 170 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,639 Speaker 2: The Big twelve Gauntlet. I've described the Big twelve as 171 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:07,000 the g League with university logos on it. You've seen 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,679 a lot of ball in the Pac twelve, in the 173 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,440 Pac ten. You've been doing this for a long time 174 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,879 and wanted to get your overall eval of the transition 175 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,759 from Pac twelve play in both football basketball and going 176 00:09:19,399 --> 00:09:22,480 in coming into the Big twelve football and basketball. Give 177 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,679 me your synopsis, maybe eval talent coaching product. Obviously the 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,960 destinations aren't as beautiful, you know, but you know there's 179 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,519 some really good football, really good basketball being played right now. 180 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we were in the Pac twelve for a 181 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,519 long time. This is my twenty eighth year doing the 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,120 radio for ASU. So obviously twenty six of those were 183 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,879 broadcasting in the Pac twelve. Plus I did Arizona State 184 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:51,720 on television for ten years prior to becoming the radio voice. 185 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:54,639 So it's actually my thirty eighth year broadcasting Sun Devil 186 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,639 sports and all the two of them in the Pac twelve. 187 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,840 And you know, like anything that you've been a part 188 00:09:59,879 --> 00:10:01,960 of for a long time. You miss it when it's gone. 189 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,720 It was actually kind of neat, even though we lost 190 00:10:04,759 --> 00:10:09,000 the games to reconnect with, you know, going to UCLA, 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,279 going to Pauley Pavilion the week before Christmas and having 192 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,320 Oregon State come to our place on December twenty first, 193 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:20,799 and then actually seeing you. Although I didn't get to 194 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:23,759 do the Maui Invitational this year because of football commitments, 195 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,200 the Sun Devils hooked up with another Pac twelve opponent 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,759 in usc and actually they're zero to three this year 197 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:34,519 against their former Pac twelve rivals. But I miss it, 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,000 you know. And on the other hand, the Big Twelve 199 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,679 is you know, it's been great. You know, there's more. 200 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,799 One thing I like is that there's a lot of 201 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,600 college towns in the Big Twelve. The PAC twelve was 202 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:50,480 a mostly urban conference, and there are some beautiful destination 203 00:10:50,639 --> 00:10:56,080 cities Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle obviously, Salt Lake City, 204 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,840 and the Denver Boulder area as well, but you know, 205 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:03,639 it's mainly an urban conference, whereas the Big Twelve has 206 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,960 a lot of college towns like games Isowa, Lawrence and Manhattan, Kansas, 207 00:11:08,039 --> 00:11:14,559 and Stillwater, Oklahoma, and Waco, Texas. And Morgantown, West Virginia, 208 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:19,039 and it's really been fun to experience those places for 209 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,960 the first time. And the quality of the competition is terrific. 210 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,120 You know, say what you will about the Big Twelve 211 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:27,399 as a football league, but I think it was a 212 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,320 tremendously and has been the last two years, a tremendously 213 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,440 balanced league. A lot of really good teams in the 214 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:39,639 conference and basketball. I don't think there's a better league 215 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,240 in the country than the Big Twelve, but I think 216 00:11:42,279 --> 00:11:46,000 it's pretty self explanatory for anyone who follows college basketball. 217 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,200 And the baseball is very good too, some really nice ballparks. 218 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,960 A lot of schools in the Big Twelve put a 219 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,039 lot of emphasis financially and otherwise on baseball and getting 220 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,519 to go to parks like Baylors and last year we 221 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,879 were also Cincinnati has a very nice ballpark right on campus. 222 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:09,000 You know, West Virginia has become a really solid program 223 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:12,440 in baseball. It's a heck of a good baseball league. 224 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,120 So the competition has been really good. The people have 225 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,320 been very welcoming. As soon as we joined the Big Twelve, 226 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,519 I was invited into a text message chain of all 227 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,240 the radio play by play announcers in the Big Twelve Conference, 228 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:34,080 and you know, it's all been very welcoming. And I'll 229 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,919 never forget last year in twenty twenty four when we 230 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,960 played our first football game at Kansas State in late November, 231 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,639 when we were starting to make our run toward the 232 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,840 Big Twelve championship, and we're walking into the stadium in Manhattan, 233 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,960 and we had about four or five different fans k 234 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,519 State fans who stopped us on the way in to 235 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,919 just say, Hey, great to see you guys in the 236 00:12:56,919 --> 00:12:59,279 Big Twelve, Welcome to the Big Twelve. Great to have 237 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,519 Arizona State in the league, that sort of thing. So 238 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:05,360 it's all that's been really really good. And you know, 239 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:08,080 the quality of the competition and the quality of the 240 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,600 basketball is just you know, phenomenal, and the coaching, you know, 241 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,279 it's just primo the best league in the country in 242 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:14,840 my opinion. 243 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel the same way. It's been. 244 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,360 It's been, Uh, it's kind of been fun to watch 245 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,519 this uh, this conference morph and meld together with the 246 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,519 some of the old Pac twelve teams, et cetera, in 247 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:29,440 some of the the AEC teams that they picked up 248 00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:34,000 as well. So the future of the Big twelve. How 249 00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:36,879 does it look? Does it look promising to you? Does 250 00:13:36,919 --> 00:13:40,039 it look like the power force structure will stay intact? 251 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Kind of how do you? How do you feel about that? 252 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,720 You know, the next five to ten years, as conferences 253 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:50,120 begin to renegotiate their their TV deals and their structures. 254 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,399 Speaker 1: Well, the feeling I've always had, and it's not men 255 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,440 in any way as a slight to the Big Twelve, 256 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,279 but I've I had the feeling when this all first 257 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:02,399 went down a couple years ago, and I still kind 258 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,639 of maintain that feeling, is that at some point in 259 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,600 the next three or four years, I just have a 260 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:18,120 feeling I wouldn't be surprised if administrators and the people, 261 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,559 the powers that be have a sort of, as I 262 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,799 would call it, a come to Jesus moment and realize, 263 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:26,799 you know what, we really need to get a West 264 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:31,399 Coast based sports league college sports league back up and 265 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,679 running and almost kind of like get the Pac twelve 266 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,840 bunch back together. I just don't know how sustainable the 267 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,519 model is. Like when we were at UCLA back in 268 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,399 late December, I was looking at the Bruins schedule in 269 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,159 basketball and this month I think the Bruins opened Big 270 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Twelve play with games at I think it was maybe 271 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,840 Minnesota and Iowa. This week, they're home to play one 272 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:01,399 game this weekend, and then next week they go back 273 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,080 on the road, I think to play Maryland in Ohio state. 274 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:10,639 I mean, you're talking about transcontinental trips, you know, very 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 very frequently during the course of the year, and for 276 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,039 all of their sports teams. I just don't know how 277 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,159 sustainable that model is for all these schools based on 278 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,480 the West Coast to be playing conference games and opponents 279 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,639 almost an entire continent away. I mean, think about it 280 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:32,879 from a Cal and Stanford perspective. How first of all, 281 00:15:32,879 --> 00:15:35,240 how ludicrous is it that two schools in the Bay 282 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:39,159 Area are part of the Atlantic Coast Conference. I think 283 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,960 it should be the ACC really should be renamed the 284 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,720 All Coast Conference, because that's what it is right now. 285 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,559 And you know, you talk about tough models for you know, 286 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Cal and Stanford sports teams. You know, so many of 287 00:15:53,879 --> 00:15:57,360 their trips are of a trans continental nature, and I 288 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,399 just don't know where the money's going to come from 289 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,039 to keep teams traveling you know, that far that frequently. 290 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,519 So we'll see what happens. But I tell you what, 291 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:11,799 when all this went down, Arizona State was very fortunate, 292 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,879 I think, to have found a landing spot as solid 293 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,960 and as competitive as the Big twelve conference, because the 294 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:28,120 sports competition has been great, the schools, the venues, the towns. 295 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,120 It's been a good experience. You know. I told people 296 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,360 two years ago about how bittersweet it was. You know. 297 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:37,960 The bitter part was that last year in the Pac 298 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,720 twelve and making the rounds, like our final baseball series 299 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:44,320 of the year was at Stanford, and as luck would 300 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,240 have it, Arizona State went up there and swept the 301 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:49,360 three game series against Stanford and what was our final 302 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,960 Pac twelve series ever. And I remember interviewing Stanford's baseball coach, 303 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,159 David Esker, who's been a friend for a long time, 304 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,320 during that series, and he was just lamenting how just 305 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,039 it just didn't seem right for the Pac twelve to 306 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,720 be going away, and and and so forth. But the 307 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:10,680 sweet part came the following year when we started making 308 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,960 our first go through of the Big twelve, and again 309 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:16,920 how welcoming everyone's been and the new experiences that we've 310 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,720 been able to enjoy as a part of a tremendous conference. 311 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:24,599 Like the Big Twelve, and you know, we'll see what happens. 312 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,799 And you know, my theory could be wrong. Maybe maybe 313 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:31,200 this is the future of college athletics go in this direction. 314 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,319 But it does seem to me that they're you know, 315 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,559 they're they're just I don't know, just it's it's a shame, 316 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,200 you know that there isn't a major power conference based 317 00:17:43,319 --> 00:17:46,279 on the West Coast like there was for so many 318 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,440 years in the Pac twelve conference. 319 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:51,519 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been asked this question before. You've been 320 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:55,079 doing this a long time, and you know, I truly 321 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:01,519 it's unfathomable that the Conference of Champions no longer exists. 322 00:18:01,559 --> 00:18:03,440 I mean, that kind of exists, but it doesn't exist. 323 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:03,799 Speaker 1: Really. 324 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: We tend to, you know, after games, you know, when 325 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:12,359 big events care we tend to delve into not a 326 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,319 blame game. But I look at it more as like 327 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,400 a PI chart of accountability, because I don't know if 328 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,200 it's any one thing that that uh loses you a 329 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,880 game or you know, contributes to a conference that's been 330 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:29,119 around for one hundred years or whatever disappearing overnight. Have 331 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,720 you ever pie charted you know, a kind of a 332 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,680 from an accountability sense, how the heck this happened. Like 333 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,200 we talked about Larry Scott, we talk about, you know, overspending, 334 00:18:43,839 --> 00:18:48,880 We talk about maybe internal consultants. You can talk about ESPN, 335 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:55,839 Fox TV, people maybe making certain decisions overvaluations of oneself, 336 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,759 the hubris of maybe overvaluation, usc U, c l A. 337 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:03,240 When you're asked, how did this happen? What's your response? 338 00:19:03,319 --> 00:19:05,119 I guess is what I'm getting at with your pie 339 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,240 chart of accountability? 340 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,519 Speaker 1: Well, I would say my response is you pretty much 341 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:13,000 gave the response because you pretty much included everything there. 342 00:19:13,079 --> 00:19:14,400 I mean, no need to. 343 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: Mbil is there is there a bigger piece of the 344 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,440 pie though, that somebody needs to. 345 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,519 Speaker 1: Eat, don't I don't think so. I think I think 346 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,200 it's all of that's intertwined. It all kind of came 347 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,400 together in a sad amalgamation of factors. And it's just 348 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,000 just the way the sport has involved and how money 349 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:38,240 and television and all that is just kind of taken 350 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,200 taken root as the predominant factors these days. It seems 351 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,720 in college sports, you know, so many people lament you know, 352 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,920 the transfer portal, for instance, and how it's such a 353 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,079 different day and age, and it really is I mean, 354 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:58,039 it's like it's not like your grandfather's college sports. You know, 355 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,880 following that years ago, the line between amateurism and professional 356 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,680 sports has been truly blurred. I think, you know, for 357 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:13,319 the foreseeable future. Although intellectually it's very difficult for me 358 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:18,000 to argue, you know that these kids they deserve to 359 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,240 be compensated. I mean, the athletes are the ones who 360 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,279 make college sports exciting. They're the ones that go out 361 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:29,720 there and risk injury and put on these performances. And 362 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:32,759 you know, you're going to have seventeen or eighteen thousand 363 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:35,759 fans at the Marriott Center tonight there to cheer on 364 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:39,160 their BYU team, and they're there to cheer on the players. 365 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,640 They're not there to cheer on the television network that's 366 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,519 covering the game, or the announcers or the administrators who 367 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:48,839 will be there watching. They're there to watch the players perform, 368 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,680 and you know they're the ones that you know deserve 369 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:56,400 to be compensated. But it's just it's just such a 370 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,880 different world now, and you just wonder to yourself how 371 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:04,799 sustainable the model is moving forward year in and year out. 372 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,039 Schools through their various means generating all the revenues that 373 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:13,440 will be necessary to compensate all the student athletes and 374 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,880 all the different sports and so forth. That's that's the 375 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,480 way we are now. But it's it's just interesting to 376 00:21:20,519 --> 00:21:24,440 see how sustainable the model is going to be moving forward. 377 00:21:24,519 --> 00:21:26,680 But you know, like you said an answer to the question, 378 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:31,799 you know you really did very succinctly. I think, you know, 379 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,119 dish out all the different characters in this saga, this drama, 380 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:41,240 if you will, that have led to this. But you know, 381 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:44,799 you can sit here and wallow and you know, you know, 382 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,640 organizational self pity, you know, thinking I wish we could 383 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,920 be back in the old PAC twelve of old, or 384 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,000 you can accept the change and move on and see 385 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,599 what the future holds. And I think that's what all 386 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,680 the teams that have come from the PAC twelve to 387 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,839 the Big twelve have done. I think they're all very 388 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,319 excited about being in the league with the other schools 389 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,559 from the Big twelve, and hopefully the schools from like UCLA, USC, 390 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,039 Oregon and Washington feel the same about their experiences in 391 00:22:14,079 --> 00:22:17,079 the Big ten and CAL and Stanford and the All 392 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,920 Coast I mean the Atlantic Coast Conference. But yeah, I 393 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,880 mean it's just to say the least, to say the 394 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,799 very least, it's a new day and age in intercollegiate 395 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:29,720 athletics for sure. 396 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: Let's talk ASU, b Y, you're going to be on 397 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,000 the call, and a issue has got a great opportunity 398 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:40,440 to just create a more robust resume right now. If 399 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,839 they were to knock off the Cougars, it would be 400 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,160 tremendous for their resume. And they're a talented team. They've 401 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,200 been competitive. Give me a breakdown of who ASU is 402 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,519 on the hardwood briefly, and then let's talk scoutt report. 403 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,559 What you've been hearing about this bo basketball team. 404 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,319 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the Sun Devils do have some good players, 405 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,000 you know, fun to watch our point go mo odom as, 406 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,119 a transfer from Pepperdine who is second in the Big 407 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,079 twelve and assists. While still he scores nearly seventeen points 408 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:12,000 a game. He's coming off a twenty one point twelve 409 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,119 assist game against Colorado this past Saturday. I think Moe 410 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,920 really needed the thirteen day Christmas break that the Sun 411 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,960 Devils had because his shooting had tailed off in a 412 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,119 couple of games prior to the Christmas break, but he 413 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:29,680 was on the all tournament team. He put on quite 414 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,119 a show and the Maui Invitational had thirty six in 415 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,720 the Sun Devils opening when he literally carried them single 416 00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:40,519 handedly to victory over Texas in their first game in 417 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:43,319 Maui and just had a phenomenal tournament. Made the All 418 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,400 Maui Team. He was fourth in the nation and assists 419 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,519 at Pepperdine a year ago, and he's I think in 420 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:52,640 the top fifteen nationally in assists this year. Another guy 421 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,359 that they brought in, a seven foot freshman from Senegal, 422 00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:03,519 Masamba Jop been just a terrific player in the low post. 423 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,920 He is first in the Big twelve, eleventh nationally and 424 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,440 field goal percentage coming off his season high of twenty points, 425 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,079 as well as seven block shots against Colorado on Saturday. 426 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,720 The seven block shots the most by a Sun Devil 427 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,160 in eleven years. And he's been a real find. I 428 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,920 think he is a future NBA player. In his first 429 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,400 season at Arizona State, It'll be very interesting to watch 430 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960 him and aj De Bonsa go at it in the 431 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,039 low post tonight. I mean, I don't have to tell 432 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:38,440 you how great a player Debonsa is and Masamba Jop 433 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:42,759 just oozes potential. He's not as he doesn't rebound as 434 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:44,720 much as you would think a guy of his seven 435 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,559 foot size would averages about five a game. But he 436 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,559 is a potential rim protector, scorer, has a nice shooting 437 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,319 touch from the outside. He's a very good free throw shooter, 438 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,440 and he's averaged seventeen points over the last five games 439 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,799 in his shooting seventy one percent from the field in 440 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:05,680 those last five games as well. And then a guy 441 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,440 that I think you'll enjoy watching is Anthony His nickname 442 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:12,480 is Pig. We call him the pig Man. Pig Johnson 443 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,319 a transfer from a small school in Kentucky, the University 444 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,680 of the Cumberlands, where a year ago in the NAIA 445 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:27,200 he was I think the number four scorer nationally NAIA basketball, 446 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,680 and his game has translated to the major college level 447 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,880 at Arizona State. He's averaging fourteen points a game. Excellent 448 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,359 free throw shooter, he gets to the free throw line 449 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,000 more than any other Sun Devil and is intense on 450 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,799 the defensive end of the floor and not afraid to 451 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,880 drive the ball into traffic into bigger, taller players underneath 452 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,640 the hoop. Just so much fun to watch. And you 453 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000 also have a former BYU Cougar on this team in 454 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,559 Marcus Adams, who was with BYU two years ago. Fortunately, 455 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:03,200 Marcus won't play tonight. He suffered a back injury and 456 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,839 practice Monday and he's I don't think he's on the trip. 457 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,839 I haven't seen him at practices, so unfortunately he won't 458 00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:12,559 get a chance to take the floor at the Marriott 459 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,000 Center tonight. Another good player that had his best game 460 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,920 Saturday as Colorado is Alan Mukaba, a six eight, two 461 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,039 hundred and fifty pound forward transferred from Oakland University in Michigan, 462 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,039 where he was an All Horizon League player a year ago. 463 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,960 And I wish I had a body like Alan Mukaba's. 464 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:35,440 That guy is ripped and he could play tight end 465 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:37,920 or be an edge rusher, I think on any college 466 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,480 football team he wanted to. And he had season highs 467 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,839 against Colorado's Saturday sixteen points, six rebounds and had the 468 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,440 play of the day on Sports Center's Top Ten with 469 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:53,039 an in your face dunk on Colorado's Sebastian ron Cheek 470 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,759 that just brought the house down at our arena, Desert 471 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:01,559 Financial Arena on Saturdays. Those are some of the players 472 00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:05,279 that you'll be seeing tonight for Arizona State. The key 473 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400 is that if the sun Devils can make shots. I 474 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,240 mean they for most of the year were pretty good. 475 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200 They were like in the thirty eight to thirty nine 476 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:15,119 percent range as a three point shooting team, but that 477 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:19,519 shooting percentage has dipped to thirty five percent heading into 478 00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:23,519 tonight's game. They're fourteenth and out of sixteen teams in 479 00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:26,799 the Big twelve and three point shooting percentage, and they've 480 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,680 just got to be able to knock down the open 481 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,039 looks when they get them to have any remote chance 482 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,880 to pull off the upset here tonight. 483 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: What percentage of the roster was retained from last year 484 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:39,880 to this year? 485 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,039 Speaker 1: They're an a issue. Sun Devils have one returning scholarship player, 486 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:51,000 Trevor Best Guard, who probably will not see a lot 487 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,599 of action. We'll play a little bit. And Trevor joined 488 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:57,079 the team last year at mid season. He went to 489 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,480 the same high school in North Carolina as a SU's 490 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,200 star recruit from a year ago, forward Jaden Quaintance, who's 491 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,720 now at Kentucky. But Trevor is the only returning starting player. 492 00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:12,440 They do have one walk on guard, a kid named 493 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Quentin McCoy. Who's back with the team this year, but 494 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,960 every other player I'll just go down my score sheet 495 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:22,359 here for Arizona State, they're top rotation players. Moe Odam 496 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,640 transfer from Pepperdine, Bryce Ford, a guard from the Phoenix 497 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,279 area by the way, transfer from Toledo. Masamba Jop comes 498 00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:34,799 over from Senegal. Santiago Truet. Their leading rebounder is a 499 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,480 transfer from the University of San Diego, Andrea Grebovich, who 500 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,440 is a six to eleven Serbian wing or. He's from 501 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,759 actually Montenegro. He is a European in his first year here. 502 00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,160 Pig Johnson a transfer from the NAIA. They have a 503 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,119 freshman guard from Belgium named Noah Mayhusen who's a pretty 504 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,720 solid all around player. Alan mckayba I told you about 505 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,400 from Oakland University. Marcus Adams last year bridged sixteen points 506 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,640 a game at cal State Northridge, and he has been 507 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,480 slowed by injuries this year and we're still waiting for 508 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,480 him to become the player that he was a year 509 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:14,160 ago at Northridge. And they also have a true freshman, 510 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:17,440 Cash Polk, who won't play tonight because he is injured, 511 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:20,279 and a couple of other newcomers but like I said, 512 00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:22,880 it's almost an entirely new team that Bobby Hurley's had 513 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,519 to put together, and it just seems to be an 514 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,839 annual ritual, you know, where you're just almost reconstructing a 515 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,960 roster year in and year out. And it's not just 516 00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:36,240 Arizona State. It's a lot of schools in college basketball 517 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,559 right now. But yeah, one one returning player from a 518 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,839 year ago. BYU fans might actually remember the name Trevor 519 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Best because Trevor actually scored eighteen points against the Cougars 520 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:50,480 in Tempe last February twenty sixth, which still ranks as 521 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,200 his career scoring high, you know, in that game against 522 00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:56,160 BYU at our place a year ago. 523 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder like I was stocked with coaches, 524 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,559 like many of the coaches that coach ball, right, football, basketball, 525 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:08,200 they get into it because, you know, they love to 526 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,960 get back to the kids, they love the sport, all 527 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,400 those things, and then you get through it, right and 528 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:15,240 something's changed about the business of it. For a play 529 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,279 by play guy like yourself, I imagine you've grown fond 530 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,559 over the last almost thirty years of getting to know 531 00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,759 the players year in and year out, developing relationships long 532 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:28,160 term relationships with these guys, re interviewing them pregame, post game, 533 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,799 seeing them develop, et cetera. We're losing a little bit 534 00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,440 of that in this era. Has that been at all 535 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,640 impactful for you? 536 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is. It's definitely. You're getting different 537 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,680 groups in and out. You know, just talk about you know, 538 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:48,119 the guy who was my broadcast partner, Kyle Dodd. Kyle 539 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,039 played at Arizona State as a point guard from nineteen 540 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,880 ninety nine to two thousand and three, and he used 541 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,720 to come on the post game show with me, you know, 542 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:58,480 when he'd play well, and he used to joke around. 543 00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:00,799 He said, someday I'm going to be your broad cast partner, 544 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,960 and ten years later he was. And now we're like 545 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,799 fifteen years together as you know, a play by play 546 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:12,240 guy in color analyst. And you talk about this year's team. 547 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,519 One thing about I'll say about this year's team that 548 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,400 Bobby Hurley's put together. There are some really, really good 549 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:24,119 kids and likable players on this team. I think this 550 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,119 team is much more connected individually than last year's team was. 551 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,759 At Arizona State. Last year, the Sun Devils had some 552 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,880 really highly tauted recruits. Jaden Quainton's of five star centers 553 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,480 now Kentucky Joson Sannon a five star guard, good shooter 554 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,880 who's now at Saint John's. But the team just didn't 555 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,359 seem very connected. You know, internally, this year's group is 556 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200 and there are a good bunch of kids. I remember 557 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,559 the first practice I was able to go to because 558 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,240 of my football obligations was in late October, and I 559 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,559 went to watch them practice one day just to kind 560 00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:05,400 of start familiarizing myself with the team. And after practice, 561 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Bobby had every one of those players come over and 562 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:12,279 introduce themselves individually to me. And even to this day, 563 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,039 like last night, we got to the hotel and Alan Mukayba, 564 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,079 the kid I told you about with the rip body 565 00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,799 of the Oakland transfer, he came up to all of 566 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,599 us and you know, there's a group of seven of 567 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880 us in the travel party that are unable to fly 568 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:28,839 with the team because of the smaller size of the 569 00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,720 team playing only they start charter a thirty seater and 570 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,119 there's about seven of us who go commercial. So we 571 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160 arrived at the hotel separately, but when they got back 572 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,519 from a shoot around, they came over and you know, 573 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,839 Alan comes up to every each each one of us 574 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,079 and slaps hands or you know, shakes hands, gives a 575 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,680 hug and says, good to see you guys. And pretty 576 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,920 much all the players on this team are the same way. 577 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,759 They're they're really really good kids and very well connected. 578 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,079 And that's why you'd really like to see them have 579 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,680 some success this year, because they've been fun to be 580 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440 with and be you know, travel with on the road 581 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,359 and uh and you know, I wish I could have 582 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,519 been with them in Hawaii for many reasons obviously, but 583 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440 was not able to make that trip. But you know, 584 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,119 they put on a good showing there and hopefully they 585 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,240 can you know, find their footing as Big twelve play 586 00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:21,880 unfolds and maybe pull off an upset or two and 587 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,599 kind of get back into this thing. But they've been 588 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,440 they've been a fun group to be a part of. 589 00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:29,279 But yeah, I mean that's one of the byproducts of 590 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:31,920 this day and age in college sports. These teams as 591 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,680 they are constituted, they changed dramatically year to year, and 592 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,160 it's you know, it's hard to uh, you know, get 593 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,160 a get a you know, to I would imagine, very 594 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,880 hard for fans to bomb with. I mean, like, you know, 595 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400 just less than a year ago. Sam Levitt, Well, it 596 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,119 could have you know, could have run for the mayor 597 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,519 of Tempe I and cam Scataboo, could have run on 598 00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,720 a ticket and gotten elected, you know, to statewide office 599 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,440 in the state of Arizona. And now you know, Sam 600 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:04,240 Levitt is a persona no grata. You know, he he's gone, 601 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,720 he's in the transfer portal. He's going to play elsewhere. 602 00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:10,119 And you know, we hardly knew ye Sam. You know, 603 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,199 it's he was in a year and in and out, 604 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,920 and that's just that's just the way it is. And 605 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,079 college athletics. It's not necessarily anything bad about Sam Levitt, 606 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,280 It's just, you know, that's the way it is. 607 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,559 Speaker 2: Tim Healy, Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of the Arizona 608 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,320 State Sun Devils. Good luck on your call, not that 609 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,519 you need it, but if they want to tune in, 610 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:32,840 if our listeners want to tune in to you, how 611 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,039 do they do such well? 612 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,199 Speaker 1: In the Phoenix area, we're broadcasting kta AR is the 613 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,119 biggest radio station in the state of Arizona. They have 614 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,639 several different signals and tonight we are in ESPN six 615 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,039 twenty am. But I do believe they also have the 616 00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:52,519 Arizona Sports app. If you want to, you know, dial 617 00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:56,360 us up that way, give us a listen, And Kyle 618 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,599 and I love working together. We have a good time. 619 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,719 Kyle's terrific analyst has one of the best senses of 620 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,599 humor of anybody I've ever been around. He does great 621 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:10,679 impersonations as well, And I hopefully we are a good 622 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,840 listen game in and game out, and I think we're 623 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,199 always you know, fair and objective about our opponents as well. 624 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,440 We recognize good play when we see it, no matter 625 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,960 who's making the good play. So if you get a chance, 626 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,119 give us a listen, we'd love to have you listen. 627 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,559 Listen to us, and we wish byu all the best 628 00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,880 of this season. Like not that they need any added 629 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,599 luck from us, because they are an enormously talented team 630 00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:37,360 and they're going to go far this year. 631 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,159 Speaker 2: I'm sure enjoy your time at Pro Tim. We appreciate 632 00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:41,840 you man. We'll see at the game. 633 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,599 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Thank you, appreciate it. 634 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,119 Speaker 2: Diego. That's another Folks segment brought to you by Bresa 635 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:49,079 Cleaning Services Briess and makes it a breeze to keep 636 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,559 your house clean. 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