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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank Nicole here. We are halfway through the week. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Dan Ray, host of Nightside. I'm here. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been here all week. Guess who's back at Broadcast Central,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Brooks after having recovered from a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>under the weather. Nothing serious, are you, Rob brook fans?

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Brooks fans out there, He's going to be just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked a little bit before the show. He's ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go, so he'll take care of everybody beginning at

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock and tonight, we are going to spend some

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<v Speaker 2>time talking about utility bills through the roof here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>And also egg prices, as Marita wrote today, are not

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<v Speaker 2>so egg scelent right now if you get our drifts.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk a lot of home economics. But first

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk with four guests. I hope for

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<v Speaker 2>at least three guests, having a little trouble reaching one

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<v Speaker 2>of them, but that's okay, that sometimes happens. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to start off with doctor Rebecca Perkins. Doctor Perkins is

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<v Speaker 2>an obstetrician and gynecologist as well as an investigator at

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<v Speaker 2>the Mother Infant Research Institute at Tuft's Medical Center at

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Perkins. Welcome to Night's side. I never realized there

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<v Speaker 2>was a Mother Infant Research Institute at Tough's Medical Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so it is a precach institute that focuses on

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<v Speaker 3>women's health and obstetrics and gynecology.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're the perfect person for that. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>no question about that. We're going to talk about some

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<v Speaker 2>new guidelines that have been released, and this is where

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<v Speaker 2>I get a little confused to govern self collection for

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<v Speaker 2>HPV screening and the importance of HPV screening. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>have a sense of what HPV screening is, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably many an areadys who have never heard of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe you would be kind enough to break it

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<v Speaker 2>into language that those of us who are not in

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<v Speaker 2>the medical community I can understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, absolutely, So this is a form of screening for

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<v Speaker 3>cervical cancer. So every woman and person with a cervix

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<v Speaker 3>who's between the ages of twenty one and sixty five

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<v Speaker 3>should be regularly screening for cervical cancer because that's the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of cancer that we know exactly what causes it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we know exactly how to prevent it. And so

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<v Speaker 3>since screening was introduced in the nineteen fifties, cervical cancer

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<v Speaker 3>rates have dropped by over eighty percent. And so most

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<v Speaker 3>people are familiar with being screened with the paps mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>But now we know that pretty much all, almost one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent of cervical cancers are caused by HPV or

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<v Speaker 3>human papaloma virus, and so screening is moving away from

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<v Speaker 3>using the pap smear and towards using actually testing for

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<v Speaker 3>HPV itself.

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<v Speaker 2>So so when you when someone and I know there

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<v Speaker 2>was some controversy as to what age women would begin

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<v Speaker 2>to do the HPV testing, that's a test that women

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<v Speaker 2>can start even when we would consider them to be

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<v Speaker 2>more more girl age of being a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, HPV testing should start around age twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, fair enough, Okay, So was it the age.

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<v Speaker 3>You might be thinking of HPV vaccination and that's recommended

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<v Speaker 3>for boys and girls between the ages of nine and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, Okay, so this is called and again what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>confused about is here it says that nine months after

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<v Speaker 2>the US Food and Drug Administration, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>confusing approved self collected human papalomavirus HPV testing as an

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<v Speaker 2>alternate method of cervical cancer screening. The first ever guidelines

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<v Speaker 2>have been released, So walk us through this. The tests

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<v Speaker 2>for women who said twenty five to sixty five should

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<v Speaker 2>I done in doctors' offices with the assistance of doctors.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, again, we're just I'm trying to make sure everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Understands this absolutely. So up until this point, whether someone

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<v Speaker 3>was getting a PAP smear or an HPV test or both,

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<v Speaker 3>it was done by the doctor or nurse practitioner, the clinician,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was you know, an exam with the speculum

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<v Speaker 3>of pelvic exam. But now someone has the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 3>do it themselves with a little swab that they insert

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<v Speaker 3>themselves and then that swab is tested, so they don't

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<v Speaker 3>actually have to have an exam by a doctor or

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<v Speaker 3>medical professional in order to do the test. The test

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<v Speaker 3>is still done in the doctor's office because it's a

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<v Speaker 3>laboratory sample that has to go get tested, but the

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<v Speaker 3>person doesn't necessarily have to have an exam by the

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<v Speaker 3>doctor in order to have the test done. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>the big sort of change here, is that someone can

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<v Speaker 3>do the test themselves instead of having it done by

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<v Speaker 3>the doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So as long as the individual, the woman in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, a woman up between twenty five and sixty five,

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<v Speaker 2>does the test properly, the government is very certain that

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<v Speaker 2>those test results will be as accurate as if they

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<v Speaker 2>had been done by been conducted either by a physician

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<v Speaker 2>or a physician's assistant or a nurse. Is what I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm hearing you say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So, there have been a lot of studies looking

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<v Speaker 3>at how well the result of someone doing the test

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<v Speaker 3>themselves matches with the result from the doctor, and they

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<v Speaker 3>match very very well. So that's why this test has

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<v Speaker 3>been approved for use. The big difference is that if

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<v Speaker 3>the test is positive, so if someone has an HPV infection,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's if it's a test that they did themselves,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll have to go back to their doctor to get

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<v Speaker 3>a PAPS mirror. And if it's a test that the

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<v Speaker 3>doctor did, then that perhaps mere result already be there

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<v Speaker 3>so they won't have to necessarily go back again. So

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<v Speaker 3>it can save a lot of people from having to

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<v Speaker 3>get an exam of their doctor. But if the HPV

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<v Speaker 3>test is positive, they will need to go back and

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<v Speaker 3>get that passmear.

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<v Speaker 2>What percentage of HPV tests are.

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<v Speaker 3>Positive about between ten to twenty percent, okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And how long does the papaloma virus remain? Meaning, in

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<v Speaker 2>other words, when most of us think of a virus,

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<v Speaker 2>to think, Okay, I got a virus on Tuesday and

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<v Speaker 2>by Sunday, I'm over it. If young, if women young

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<v Speaker 2>or old or older are doing tests on themselves, once

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<v Speaker 2>the HPV is present, does it not go away? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that the danger that basically a person's walking around for

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<v Speaker 2>some length of time with this papaloma virus is that Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sound dumb here, but I'm a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm trying to make sure I understand the parameter

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<v Speaker 2>is here. I assume that these tests are done what.

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<v Speaker 3>Annually, so if it's negative, it's actually done once every

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<v Speaker 3>three years. And if it's positive, then someone would go

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<v Speaker 3>and get the appropriate follow up and it would be

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<v Speaker 3>done more often. But you know, we call it human

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<v Speaker 3>papillomavirus because pretty much everyone who's a human man or

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<v Speaker 3>woman will be exposed to this virus at some point

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<v Speaker 3>during their lives. And that's why it's so important for

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<v Speaker 3>women to get tested repeatedly to make sure that they're

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<v Speaker 3>not at risk for cervical cancer. If someone tests positive,

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<v Speaker 3>usually the immune system controls the virus over a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years, so it's not like you'll get it on

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday and it's gone by Tuesday. It's you know, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>get it in twenty twenty two and hopefully it's gone

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<v Speaker 3>by twenty twenty four. But it can and then sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>come back later on. So a new diagnosis of a

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<v Speaker 3>new positive HPV test doesn't mean that it's a new infection.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be an old infection that has come out again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And then men can can carry this infection and

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, you know, contribute to the infection of their partner,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume. But this is not nearly as dangerous a

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<v Speaker 2>virus to men as it is to women, is what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is because HPV can cause six different types of cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>and the most common HPV related can answer in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States right now is actually cancer of the base

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<v Speaker 3>of tongue and tonsles, and that is more common in

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<v Speaker 3>men than in women.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem with that cancer is we don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>way to screen for it and prevent it. So the

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<v Speaker 3>cervical cancer, we know how to prevent it. So with

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<v Speaker 3>screening and vaccination, we can prevent cervical cancer. But with

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<v Speaker 3>the tongue and tonsile cancers, vaccination should prevent them, but

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have a way to screen for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is very, very complicated, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to at least cause people to think and

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<v Speaker 2>also maybe do a little bit more research on their

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<v Speaker 2>own as well. This is a I've learned a lot

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<v Speaker 2>in this interview. To be honest with you, some of

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<v Speaker 2>it is unsettling. But I think it's better to be

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<v Speaker 2>unsettled than to be ignorant. So I thank you very

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<v Speaker 2>much for your time tonight on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're welcome. Yes, I would say, if there's one

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<v Speaker 3>take home message for women, it's see your doctor and

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<v Speaker 3>make sure you get screened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and can folks get more information? Is there a

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<v Speaker 2>website that you can refer people to? Again, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want people calling you on the phone tomorrow say I

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<v Speaker 2>heard you on Night Side last night. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the American Cancer Society has very good information

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<v Speaker 3>on HPV and cervical cancer screening.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, well, thank you very much for your time. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you very much. Doctor Rebecca Perkins an obstetrician and gynecologist

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<v Speaker 2>as well as an investigator at the Mother Infant Research

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<v Speaker 2>Institute at Tough Medical Center. So appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. When we get back, we will have another guest.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what the lineup is here, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to mention who will the next guest, but

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<v Speaker 2>next guest in this edition of Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're only a couple of days away from March,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the big event in March for most

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<v Speaker 2>of us here in Boston, whether we're Irish or not,

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<v Speaker 2>is Saint Patrick's Day on March seventeenth, and all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of events leading up to Saint Patrick's Day. We are

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<v Speaker 2>joined tonight by a member of an award winning Irish band.

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<v Speaker 2>The band is pronounced Lenoosa. They will be playing in

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<v Speaker 2>Somerville on March eighth, and with us is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the members of that band, Kevin Crawford. He's a flute player,

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<v Speaker 2>considered one of Ireland's greatest flute players. Kevin, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 5>How are you, sir, Good evening, Dan, how are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing just great. I'm a Corkman. I am of

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<v Speaker 2>Irish descent. My family grew up in the town of Mallow,

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<v Speaker 2>about ten about twenty minutes north of Cork City on

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<v Speaker 2>the Blackwater River. And I do not know what the

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<v Speaker 2>word lunusa means in Gaelic. I assume it's a Gaelic word.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you give us, first of all, a meaning for

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<v Speaker 2>the word lanusa?

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<v Speaker 5>I can, and I can correct you on the pronunciation

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<v Speaker 5>as well. It's lunasas lunasa. YEA lunasa would be the

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<v Speaker 5>We'll still will still talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So what my question is, does it is there some

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of the Latin that meaning the moon tell

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<v Speaker 2>us what Lunasa in Gaelic.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I mean it's all related to that whole kind

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<v Speaker 5>of moon sun kind of stuff. But Lunasa the way

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<v Speaker 5>we spell it, the way the Irish spell it for

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<v Speaker 5>that particular l u n a s a that's the

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<v Speaker 5>Irish for the month of Aust.

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<v Speaker 2>For a second, that's Irish. That's Gaelic for what the

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry. It's also the name of a one of the

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<v Speaker 5>the pagan festivals that would have happened in Ireland in

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<v Speaker 5>the just preach calendar days, So you had Lunus swyn

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<v Speaker 5>Baltan and there were four different festivals, and Lunas was

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<v Speaker 2>Those Celtic pagans, they were kind of a wild bunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank god Saint Patrick came to save us, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. You were a flute player. How does one

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<v Speaker 5>But I just knew that I loved the sound of

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<v Speaker 5>I dabbled on the fiddle initially because violins are fiddles

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<v Speaker 5>than Irish flutes there are quite difficult to get and

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<v Speaker 5>they're very different to a classical flute, where a fiddle

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<v Speaker 5>is the same as a violin. If you get my meaning.

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<v Speaker 6>But so I just started on the fiddle, and I

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<v Speaker 6>soon realized, and to the delight of my parents as well,

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<v Speaker 5>To be the instrument for me because I was making

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<v Speaker 5>some terrible noises for a couple of years with that thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>Easy to move. It was easy to move on to

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<v Speaker 5>the flute because in Ireland everybody learns the penny whistle.

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<v Speaker 7>As a child.

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<v Speaker 5>So so the next kind the level up from that,

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<v Speaker 5>the next kind of logical step would be the flute.

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<v Speaker 5>Are the Irish types because they have a similar kind

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<v Speaker 5>of fingering, you know. So that's that's kind of it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just kept hunting and wishing and asking and

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<v Speaker 5>when I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So so how much how much does your band travel?

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to be here in Somerville and marsh eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you come across the pond often? Are you based

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<v Speaker 2>in Ireland? Do you do a lot of half and half?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Yeah, So it's two three of the members of

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<v Speaker 5>the band live in the US and three lived in Ireland,

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<v Speaker 5>so I live currently in upstate New York. Our piper

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<v Speaker 5>in Florida. So it's they're the three kind of melody

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<v Speaker 5>players and we're all based here. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 5>our guitarist, double bass player. We also have a singer

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<v Speaker 5>for this tour for the night in Boston, so they're

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<v Speaker 5>all based in Ireland yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get to the most important information. Although this

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<v Speaker 2>has been great background in biographical information. So you will

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<v Speaker 2>be appearing at the Somerville Theater on Saturday, March eighth

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<v Speaker 2>at seven pm.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and it's a welcome return for us to the

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<v Speaker 5>Somerville Theater. We've we've played there since we started them

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<v Speaker 5>in the bands together since nineteen ninety seven, so we've

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<v Speaker 5>been playing in Somerville for a man eas a long day,

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<v Speaker 5>but we haven't played Somerville's theater, funny enough, for probably

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<v Speaker 5>six or seven years. We started doing other shows in

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<v Speaker 5>and around Boston. But it's really really exciting to be

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<v Speaker 5>going back to the Somerville because that's where we cut

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<v Speaker 5>our teeth back in the early naughties, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is again Saturday, March eighth at seven and

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<v Speaker 2>tickets are available. I assume by content. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>my notes here and I don't see. Normally we can

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<v Speaker 2>uh push people towards where they can get the tickets. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they they get them.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if they go to our website, there'll be a

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<v Speaker 5>link from there. So that's Lunasa band dot I e

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<v Speaker 5>u O lunasaband dot com. I sis so okay, lunasaband

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<v Speaker 5>dot com and there'll be the full tour and all

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<v Speaker 5>the links from there are go directly to the Summerville Theater.

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<v Speaker 3>I imagine that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, perfect, perfect, Well that's a great way to uh

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in the month of March, of course, which

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<v Speaker 2>means springtime and shamrocks in Saint Patrick's Day March eighth. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>If if I wasn't committed to doing something that night

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston, I would have been there myself in the audience.

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<v Speaker 5>So I have to you want to come down to

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<v Speaker 5>see us, We'll have to celebrate Mallow and Kark another

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<v Speaker 5>another time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're on a corkman, are you.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very close though I'm from County Clare. I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>too country.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>I holiday all the time down in Westcark, so I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a big fan, a big fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Well, thank you much, Kevin Crawford. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the time. The band is called Lunasta and they

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be in Somerville in Somemmerville at the

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<v Speaker 2>Somerville Theater on Saturday night, March eighth, at seven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much, Kevin. I enjoyed the conversation. Hope to

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<v Speaker 2>meet you up good. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, thanks so much, man, thanks really welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we're going to first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>taking a break for the news at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>they are a couple of minutes late, apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to talk about the flu, which has

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<v Speaker 2>been rampant around these parts in the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are some serious complications from the flu that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about with Alison Quiznitz, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>This, It's night Side, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think most of us either have had something

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<v Speaker 2>like the flu or know someone in our family who

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<v Speaker 2>has had something like the flu. In the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed to kind of, I guess, pop up around

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<v Speaker 2>these parts and sometime in December with us is a

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<v Speaker 2>State House news reporter, Alison Kusnitz, and Alison has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of information for US here on flu complications, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in children that has triggered a state advisory. Alison, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Nightside. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me well.

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<v Speaker 2>Always great to have one of the State House news reporters.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a television reporter many years ago, spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time hanging out at the State House.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that they have a State House News reporter

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<v Speaker 2>room now, which is better than what it was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>or so years ago. But we'll leave that for another conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably is the same. So I caught something the

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<v Speaker 2>week of Christmas and it was rough. It was upper

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<v Speaker 2>respiratorium bronchitis, and it stayed away, and it stayed with

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<v Speaker 2>me and I had this horrible cough. Is that the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's going around or is it a different type

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<v Speaker 2>of flu?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, So there are a number of illnesses going around. Recently,

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<v Speaker 4>the Department of Public Health Commissioner Robbie Goldstein had talked

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<v Speaker 4>about that Massachusetts was seeing a peak in the flu,

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<v Speaker 4>but other viruses, other respiratory viruses were actually on the decline,

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<v Speaker 4>but he had said at a Public Health Council meeting

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<v Speaker 4>earlier this month that Massachusetts had hit a peak that

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<v Speaker 4>was actually surpassed the past five flu seasons, And just

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the state's dashboard right now is pretty consistent

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<v Speaker 4>with what the Commissioner was talking about just a few

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<v Speaker 4>weeks ago. That's the estimated severity of flu throughout Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 4>So in really every county that they're tracking, it's very

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<v Speaker 4>high rate of blue circulating right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's still still here. We are at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of February, the last week of February, the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days of February, and it's still the interes what

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<v Speaker 2>the tracking is still increasing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this severity of the flu is increasing. Are

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<v Speaker 4>there does seem to be some improvements with some of

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<v Speaker 4>the metrics from the Department of Health. Some of this

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<v Speaker 4>data is not perfectly updated. I believe the most recent

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<v Speaker 4>data from DPH right now was from February twentieth. They

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<v Speaker 4>are showing DPH data is showing there has been some

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<v Speaker 4>decrease and the number of influenza like illness, business and

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<v Speaker 4>also hospitalizations associated with influenza, but the numbers continue to

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<v Speaker 4>be extremely high compared to the benchmark that health officials

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now the problem here is that this is

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<v Speaker 2>a flu, but it also apparently has some complications that

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<v Speaker 2>are neurological. That sounds to me like something that people

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<v Speaker 2>should pay attention to. What does that all mean realistically?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, So the Department of Public Health put out a

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<v Speaker 4>clinical advisory February fourteenth that has been circulating more and

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<v Speaker 4>so basically, Department Public Health officials send out this notice

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to let providers clinicians know that they're seeing a

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<v Speaker 4>possible increase in children with neurological complications that could be

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<v Speaker 4>associated with them also having the flu. Dph said that

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<v Speaker 4>this could really be They're not quite sure why they're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing this possible increase. They're saying it could simply be

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<v Speaker 4>a matter of because flu activity is so high, therefore

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<v Speaker 4>they're seeing a higher number of people with neurological complications.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're also saying that, you know, kids that already

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<v Speaker 4>had pre existing neurological conditions, or kids that are not

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<v Speaker 4>vaccinated against the flu might have be a greater risk

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<v Speaker 4>of developing some of these neurologic complications. Health officials said

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<v Speaker 4>that seizure would be one of the most common types

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<v Speaker 4>of complications, and then you could also see situations like

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds very serious when you're talking about the seizure or

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<v Speaker 2>brain inflammation. Is that something that normally can be associated

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<v Speaker 2>with the flu? I mean, I know the flu is miserable,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, but I didn't realize that particularly

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<v Speaker 2>within children. Is it more common in children than adults

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<v Speaker 2>that these neurological I think complications are appearing?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, I think officials are saying they're also not sure

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<v Speaker 4>if maybe it's this type of strain of the flu

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<v Speaker 4>that is causing the complications, or if it's this category

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<v Speaker 4>of children that happen to be a greater risk. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>health officials said that people that do have these neurological conditions,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not necessarily going to be chronic conditions. But health

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<v Speaker 4>officials also said that that children that do end up

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<v Speaker 4>with these neurological complications are going to see higher or

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<v Speaker 4>longer lens to day in it, and they have a

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<v Speaker 4>higher excuse me, a longer length of stay in hospitals,

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<v Speaker 4>and they have a higher chance of being admitted to

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<v Speaker 4>the ICU Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pretty scary. So one of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that parents need to think more seriously about is

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<v Speaker 2>it's not too late I guess to get a flu

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<v Speaker 2>shat for yourself or for your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, sure, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the key recommendations in this clinical advisory is

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<v Speaker 4>that children ages six months and older should be vaccinated

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<v Speaker 4>if they're not already. And actually the number of people

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<v Speaker 4>vaccinated in Massachusetts, it's just thirty eight percent or about

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<v Speaker 4>thirty nine percent of Massachusetts residents are vaccinated against the

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<v Speaker 4>blue so DPA because that's about two out of five

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<v Speaker 4>residents who are vaccinated. That number doesn't necessarily differentiate between

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<v Speaker 4>adults and children, but there's definitely a lot of improvement

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<v Speaker 4>for folks who could be getting vaccinated against the blue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. It's interesting, you know, when COVID was ongoing and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of controversy about vaccinations and compulsory

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<v Speaker 2>vaccinations versus you know, accepting vaccinate excinations voluntarily, and they

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<v Speaker 2>would tie to people maintaining in some cases maintaining their jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there was a lot of skepticism that developed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm surprised that the vaccination level is that low

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<v Speaker 2>here in Massachusetts, because I think Massachusetts is a I

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<v Speaker 2>use the word progressive, not in a political sense, but

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<v Speaker 2>in that we have a high degree of medical personnel here,

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<v Speaker 2>medical institutions. The fact that only thirty six or thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight percent of people in Massachusetts vaccinated against the flu

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<v Speaker 2>that surprises me as the number. Does it surprise you

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<v Speaker 2>as well?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it does. I think it definitely leads room

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<v Speaker 4>to wonder what other public awareness campaigns public health officials

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<v Speaker 4>could have done. I know that a number of healthcare

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<v Speaker 4>organizations earlier in the flu season did put out a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of public messaging really urging people to get their

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<v Speaker 4>flu shots, saying that these flu shots are really widely available,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's not your doctor office or doctor's offices or

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<v Speaker 4>local pharmacies. But it is surprising to see such a

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<v Speaker 4>low number, especially when we see you know, RSV other

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<v Speaker 4>respiratory illnesses also really heading mass to Judas residence this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if there's not a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>backlash against some of the mandatory COVID vaccinations that are

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<v Speaker 2>still for people's minds, and if there wasn't some some

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<v Speaker 2>harm done to sort of like the psyche of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, and that I mean, I'm somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>has I get all my vaccinations because I just happen

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<v Speaker 2>to believe in vaccinations. But there's a substantial number of

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<v Speaker 2>people in this country have become very skeptical and that

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<v Speaker 2>that that is worrisome, you know, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>always easier to convince rather than compel people to do anything,

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<v Speaker 2>just from a philosophical point of view. Allison, I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed the conversation. You sound like a great state House

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<v Speaker 2>News report, thorough direct, Thank you so much for this information.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to having you on again. If we

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<v Speaker 2>have ever ever had the asus you're having you on

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<v Speaker 2>before now.

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate it. Would be happy to come back

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<v Speaker 4>any time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was this your first appearance on on Night Side

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<v Speaker 2>We do four? Well you did great. You're exceptionable. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that seriously. There are are state House News reporters

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<v Speaker 2>every all our guests are great, but you're exceptional, very

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<v Speaker 2>thorough and very responsive. I really enjoyed the conversation. Thanks, Alison.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk again talking about compulsory things. There's a new

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<v Speaker 2>poll out that base stats are not too sweet on

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<v Speaker 2>taxing candy. We're going to talk with Chris Anderson, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the president of the Massachusetts High Tech Council's council, about

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<v Speaker 2>the possibility that your candy could be taxed. Just remember

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts they only tax two things, anything that moves

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<v Speaker 2>and anything that doesn't move. We'll be back with Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Anderson right after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Delighted to be joined by Chris Anderson. Christopher Anderson, president

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<v Speaker 2>of the Massachusetts High Tech Council, but he's also one

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<v Speaker 2>of the organizers of a group called the Massachusetts Opportunity Alliance,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have been doing some polling on how base

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<v Speaker 2>Staters feel about taxing our candy, our chocolate bars, we

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<v Speaker 2>got walllipops. It turns out the base Staters are not

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<v Speaker 2>too sweet on that idea. Christopher Anderson, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>night'sat How are you good?

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<v Speaker 3>Intro?

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<v Speaker 7>It's great to be with you, Dan, Always a pleasure,

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<v Speaker 7>you bet you so.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about the mass Opportunity Alliance. Is this a

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<v Speaker 2>subsidiary of the Massachusetts High Tech Council or is this

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<v Speaker 2>a separate organization that you're involved with as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, it's a great question. First of all, we

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<v Speaker 7>have to start with the fact that there's a deep

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<v Speaker 7>correlation between the strength or as as climate and the

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<v Speaker 7>quality of life for everybody that lives in works in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 7>and business leaders across our entire private sector economy have

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<v Speaker 7>recognized a big change, a big swing in the pendulum.

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<v Speaker 7>Things are getting a lot more challenging, and our workers

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<v Speaker 7>and people that live in work across the state are

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<v Speaker 7>realizing that the cost of living in Massachusetts are causing

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<v Speaker 7>them to rethink whether they stick around here. So what

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<v Speaker 7>the Mass Opportunity Alliance is a partnership to sort of

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<v Speaker 7>bring together a cross organizational sector of different business leaders

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<v Speaker 7>and activate residents and generate some awareness around what these

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<v Speaker 7>trends are. And sixty four percent of Massachusetts voters are

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<v Speaker 7>not enrolled in either political party, and that's really an

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<v Speaker 7>opportunity for us to work through the Mass Opportunity Alliance

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<v Speaker 7>to generate some engagement, action, and awareness that we expect

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<v Speaker 7>them to be part of the solution as we go forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, Chris, you've heard me say this if

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to my show before that we're lucky in

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts because the Massachusetts only taxes. Two things here in

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts anything that moves and anything that doesn't move. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why why our residents are so concerned about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just another tax here. They're going after my

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<v Speaker 2>candy to They're going to have to pry that Hershey's

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<v Speaker 2>chocolate bar from my cold, dead hand. I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to know that.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, well, it's an interesting analogy to get people

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<v Speaker 7>focused on the tax proposal. So the current budget that

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<v Speaker 7>the governor proposed generates another seven percent increase in spending,

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<v Speaker 7>but is assuming only a four percent increase in revenue growth.

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<v Speaker 7>And within the budget, in addition to the candy tax,

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<v Speaker 7>which sixty four percent of voters op pose based on

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<v Speaker 7>our polling, there are proposals to raise taxes on vehicles, lodging,

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<v Speaker 7>and meals across every city in town in Massachusetts, and

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<v Speaker 7>voters are even more opposed to those provisions. So there's

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<v Speaker 7>a disconnect between this correlation that business leaders see between

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<v Speaker 7>the business climate and quality life and the policy proposals

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<v Speaker 7>that elected officials are seen to be focused on. And

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<v Speaker 7>we do share some common ground, for example, around housing

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<v Speaker 7>and the need to make that more affordable, but in

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<v Speaker 7>the middle of that you can't be raising spending in

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<v Speaker 7>the state budget and proposing a whole host of new

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<v Speaker 7>taxes that will affect different people in different cities and towns.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, sometimes we can't even agree on what the size

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<v Speaker 2>of the governor's budget proposal is. So I've seen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>two billion, I've seen it as high as sixty six

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, depending upon how it's calculated. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a problem as well, just the whole concept of transparency.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other thing is up at the state House.

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<v Speaker 2>They are working, you know, twenty four to seven to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get as much money out of people's pockets

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<v Speaker 2>as they can. And the average person, the average voter,

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<v Speaker 2>the average citizen is working their butt off just to

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<v Speaker 2>pay all the taxes. And these folks up at the

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<v Speaker 2>state House, they're isolated. They're in this little science lab

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<v Speaker 2>of coming up with new taxes. At what point are

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<v Speaker 2>the people in Massachusetts going to smarten up and say

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<v Speaker 2>enough is enough?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that's what mass Opportunity is really designed to help achieve,

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<v Speaker 7>is a greater awareness among people who don't normally think

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<v Speaker 7>of the types of policies that they believe don't affect them.

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<v Speaker 7>For example, the syer tax on incomes over a million.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of people just figure, well, that's not me.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not in that category. But look what's happening, Dan saying,

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<v Speaker 7>a rapid out migration of high wealth individuals, not just

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<v Speaker 7>retirees and those of the highest income brackets, but work

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<v Speaker 7>Sixty eight percent of the people that are leaving are

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<v Speaker 7>in the working age of between twenty eight and fifty four,

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<v Speaker 7>and they're taking you know, decent wage jobs and their families,

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<v Speaker 7>and they're moving to lower cost, better quality life states

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<v Speaker 7>where they can raise their family and spend their resources.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's an important fact that you know doesn't show

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<v Speaker 7>up in the policy proposals yet, but it's on the

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<v Speaker 7>tip of every business leader's consciousness. And we think we

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<v Speaker 7>can help mobilize people who listen to your show, people

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<v Speaker 7>who are rank and file across the state with this information.

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<v Speaker 7>And the website at Mass Opportunity Alliance has a ton

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<v Speaker 7>of this great research data and narrative around what the

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<v Speaker 7>trends mean for people like you and me and our neighbors.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I would encourage the audience to take a look.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, we've we've done a lot in only

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<v Speaker 7>six months. Of MOA being public, and we have a

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<v Speaker 7>plan over the next two to six years and beyond

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<v Speaker 7>UH to use this vehicle to be proactive in addressing

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<v Speaker 7>some of the challenges that we see.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the website because I'm sure some of my listeners

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<v Speaker 2>will want to migrate there and maybe join the organization

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<v Speaker 2>supported in some way. Is at moa dot com or

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<v Speaker 2>is it mass Opportunity Alliance?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Mass Opportunity Alliance dot com, dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, oh it's a dot org. You should remember that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and we need more of that in Massachusetts. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the problem, Chris, you and I know it's a

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<v Speaker 2>one party state, and whenever there's a one party state,

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<v Speaker 2>everything is done behind closed doors. There's no transparency. The

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<v Speaker 2>only politician up there who's actually trying to open up

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<v Speaker 2>and and shine the light of daylight is the state auditor,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's a Democrats.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and quite there are a number of Democrats who

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<v Speaker 7>are on both branches that we've been meeting with that

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<v Speaker 7>are very interested in and very supportive of our efforts

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<v Speaker 7>because they see the trend that nobody wants to talk about.

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<v Speaker 7>We have a lot of cheerleaders in Massachusetts that want

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<v Speaker 7>to talk about how great team Massachusetts. We have a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of assets that no other state has, that's for sure. Whoever,

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<v Speaker 7>the people driving the economy, Dan, not the ones in

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<v Speaker 7>public policy positions, but the folks driving our economy, our

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<v Speaker 7>private sector economy. They're being tapped on the shoulder by

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<v Speaker 7>officials in New Hampshire and Florida most successfully every day.

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<v Speaker 7>And our employees recognize that they could take the same

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<v Speaker 7>job in this mobile economy, relocate and get a raise

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<v Speaker 7>without their income going up because their taxes are going

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<v Speaker 7>to go down, and we lose that opportunity here in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 7>and it changes the trajectory. And that's why we're really

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<v Speaker 7>focused around the long term and making sure that the

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<v Speaker 7>quality of life doesn't deteriorate. But in order for that

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<v Speaker 7>to happen, Dan, you've got to assure that we have

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<v Speaker 7>a strong, robust business economy that welcomes investment and job creation.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's how you grow revenue now couplosing tax rates.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'd love to do is bring you back some

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<v Speaker 2>night and do in the long form interview, do an hour,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe nine o'clock, and take calls. In this hour, we

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<v Speaker 2>do four interviews. There are no callers, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>people to have an opportunity to talk with you and

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<v Speaker 2>ask you a question. So I'll have my producer get

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<v Speaker 2>back in touch with you, and at some point in

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<v Speaker 2>the next particularly as we move into the tax season,

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<v Speaker 2>when people might be raised in people's minds and as

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<v Speaker 2>they say any people that the only thing that attacks

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts are things that move and things that don't move.

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<v Speaker 7>And well, you're doing great work, Dan. We appreciate your

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<v Speaker 7>good work, and I look forward to coming back and

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<v Speaker 7>maybe taking in a Lunas show sometime before then.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck with that as well. Hey, Chris, thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk soon. Okay, take care, bye, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back tonight, we are going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the expense of living in Massachusetts, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start with utility bills and also going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about egg prices. Things are getting more expensive. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>getting any easier for most of you, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity for you to have your voice heard. We're

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on Night's side right after this
