Speaker 1: Welcome to Missing Persons case files A place where they're gone?
Speaker 1: Are not the forgotten? What's happening in the forest of
Speaker 1: North America? How are so many people disappearing only to
Speaker 1: have the remains found much later, or, in many cases
Speaker 1: not at all. Are the predators to blame giant hair
Speaker 1: covered beasts or even more terrifying us as humans? Maybe
Speaker 1: it's both, Maybe it's neither. These are just a few
Speaker 1: of the questions we'll look to uncover here on the
Speaker 1: missing person's case files.
Speaker 2: Tom Messeix Senior birthday March fourteenth, nineteen thirty three disappeared
Speaker 2: November fifteenth, twenty fifteen. On November fifteenth of twenty and fifteen,
Speaker 2: Thomas Messick Senior, aged eighty two, an ex paratrooper, walked
Speaker 2: into the woods south of Bryant Lake in New State
Speaker 2: to hunt for deer and was never seen again. No
Speaker 2: sign of him or his belongings ever turned up, including
Speaker 2: a rifle in walkie talkie, despite an extensive search of
Speaker 2: the area. Unusually, the FBI was even involved in the investigation.
Speaker 2: This is a strange and puzzling hunting disappearance. Tom lived
Speaker 2: in the city of Troy in New York. State and
Speaker 2: was out that Sunday with six friends and family members
Speaker 2: who were hunting near Lily Pond, in an area of
Speaker 2: state land that is part of the Lake George Wild Forest.
Speaker 2: The older members of the group, four of them, were
Speaker 2: watchers an a static position, sat on a log or
Speaker 2: similar comfortable spot and were in a near vertical line,
Speaker 2: whilst the younger hunters used the path around the lake
Speaker 2: to drive the deer to the watchers as part of
Speaker 2: the drive. Since the mid eighteen eighties, Brant Lake has
Speaker 2: been a popular fishing and hunting area among wealthy visitors,
Speaker 2: including Theodore Roosevelt. Brandt Lake Camp was incorporated by R. B. Gerstensang, J. E.
Speaker 2: Everley and John F. Mulloy in nineteen seventeen. After fifty
Speaker 2: five years of hunting with longtime friends, also senior men
Speaker 2: at the Messex Hunting Camp in Hague, they decided to
Speaker 2: try this area for the.
Speaker 3: Very first time.
Speaker 2: Tom was supposed to stay in one spot as group
Speaker 2: members walked through the woods to push deer toward him,
Speaker 2: but when they arrived at where he was supposed to be,
Speaker 2: he was gone, without a trace of him or his belongings.
Speaker 2: No sign of any deer was found that day. He
Speaker 2: wore duck boots, camoufaged pants and coat, gloves, and a
Speaker 2: red and black check hat he'd worn for many years.
Speaker 2: He carried a rifle and a walkie talkie. Tom served
Speaker 2: in the US Army as a paratrooper with the eighty
Speaker 2: second Airborne Division. He was five foot ten inches tall
Speaker 2: and weighed approximately one hundred and sixty pounds. He was
Speaker 2: an experienced hunter and woodsman, and taught hunter and survival
Speaker 2: training for many years. He had a history of heart
Speaker 2: problems and lost an eye in an accident with an
Speaker 2: explosive device in his early twenties, so he had poor
Speaker 2: vision and limited hearing, as well as one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3: Nine stitches in his hand.
Speaker 2: He had also just gotten over a case of shingles
Speaker 2: and nearly decided to not go on the annual hunting trip.
Speaker 2: He was last seen at ten am, when Messik did
Speaker 2: not show up as he agreed upon. Tom his friends
Speaker 2: called forest strangers and they searched from four thirty pm on.
Speaker 2: It got dark around seven pm, and at that point
Speaker 2: half the group stayed fired their rifles and honked the
Speaker 2: car horns to attract time to the area. The remaining
Speaker 2: men left the scene and reported him missing to family
Speaker 2: and the authorities.
Speaker 3: The day after.
Speaker 2: Tom had disappeared on November sixteenth. The search started with
Speaker 2: thirteen trained search and rescue professionals from the Park Service.
Speaker 3: It was well organized from the start.
Speaker 2: A huge search over several weeks, involving more than three
Speaker 2: hundred professionals and volunteers. On some days, as tested by dogs,
Speaker 2: divers and several helicopters, found no clues, including no sign.
Speaker 3: Of his rifle or his walkie talkie. More than four.
Speaker 2: Square miles were searched, what a larger area being searched
Speaker 2: by air with the aid of a helicopter from d
Speaker 2: State Police Aviation Unit. More than fifteen agencies were involved,
Speaker 2: including DC Forest Rangers, d EC Police Canine Unit, DC
Speaker 2: Police officers, the FBI Quick Response Team, a State Police
Speaker 2: Special Operations Response Team, the Warren County Sheriff's Office Tactical Team,
Speaker 2: and volunteers from the New York State Federation of Search
Speaker 2: and Rescue Teams. The weather was poor with heavy rain,
Speaker 2: but sniffer dogs were deployed before the worst of.
Speaker 3: The rain arrived.
Speaker 2: Searchers walked through the woods, including swamps, no matter how
Speaker 2: thick they were and checked nearby roads, but there was
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. Areas were tied off with string to box
Speaker 2: off specific areas, allowing a detailed search of every grid zone.
Speaker 2: It was described as a spiderwey of string in the forest.
Speaker 2: Given his age, searches were baffled as he could not
Speaker 2: have gotten far from his original location, and some said
Speaker 2: it was weird that there were no sounds of wildlife
Speaker 2: whilst the search and rescue teams were in operation, almost
Speaker 2: like something had silenced the woods. The search had many caves, crevices,
Speaker 2: and other hazards that were searched. Could he have somehow
Speaker 2: fallen into one of these? For a man of his age,
Speaker 2: was he mobile enough?
Speaker 3: Why were there no clues on the ground despite the
Speaker 3: methodical grid search.
Speaker 2: Surprisingly, the FBI arrived on the fourth day, November nineteenth.
Speaker 2: This was unusual as the FBI never usually gets involved
Speaker 2: in these types of missing first in cases unless they
Speaker 2: fall under federal jurisdiction, they had happened on federal land,
Speaker 2: or it was believed a kidnapping was involved. Tom's wife, Beverly, said,
Speaker 2: the FBI told me something isn't right with his case,
Speaker 2: but they don't know what they won't share any theories
Speaker 2: if they have them. The FBI said until they make
Speaker 2: a discovery, they're never going to know, but subsequently, investigators
Speaker 2: said there have been no indications of foul play.
Speaker 3: David Winchell, a spokesman.
Speaker 2: For the dec said rangers continue to search the area
Speaker 2: on a limited continuous basis since a wild wide scale
Speaker 2: ground search ended in January of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: That means rangers check.
Speaker 2: The area periodically for evidence or clues. Beverly said he'd
Speaker 2: been in the wood since he was a boy, and
Speaker 2: if he got lost, he would have cut a piece
Speaker 2: of his jacket and tied it to a tree and
Speaker 2: done the other things that he had learned. His wife
Speaker 2: said her greatest fear was that he was the victim
Speaker 2: of foul play. The only thing I can think of,
Speaker 2: she said, is that maybe someone came in and a
Speaker 2: quad hurt him, got scared and drove him out of there.
Speaker 2: I keep praying they'll find him so we have some closure.
Speaker 2: I keep worrying that I didn't tell him that I
Speaker 2: loved him the last day I saw him alive. In
Speaker 2: the summer of twenty eighteen, state police used sniffer dogs
Speaker 2: trained to detect cadavers to go through portions of the
Speaker 2: woods and fields near where Messick disappeared. State Police investigator
Speaker 2: John diet said no clues were found, but the police
Speaker 2: investigation was ongoing. Tom's disappearance is yet another bizarre case.
Speaker 2: Tom just vanished off the face of the planet. He
Speaker 2: was elderly, but an experienced backwoodsman, a tough guy, an
Speaker 2: ex paratrooper and not one to wander off into the
Speaker 2: woods when on a hunt. He had a rifle and
Speaker 2: a walkie talkie, and no sign of them have been found.
Speaker 2: Despite a massive search of the area, including all the
Speaker 2: inaccessible parts.
Speaker 3: Including water in caves.
Speaker 2: It was so big a search that locals thought someone
Speaker 2: high profile or famous, like a politician, was involved. Sniffer
Speaker 2: dogs nor flear equipped helicopters were able to find any trace.
Speaker 2: Was he snatched from Lake George Wilde Forrest by a
Speaker 2: serial killer or something, or did he just choose to
Speaker 2: disappear suffering from dementia or a terminal illness. The investigation
Speaker 2: into messix disappearance is still classified as an active missing
Speaker 2: person case by the authorities.
Speaker 1: Tiffany, There's absolutely nothing about this case that makes sense,
Speaker 1: nothing at all. This man who was in his eighties.
Speaker 1: He was an elderly gentleman, but he was also the
Speaker 1: definition of a badass. He had I mean, he was
Speaker 1: a paratrooper in the military, all this survival experience. He
Speaker 1: was a teacher of survival stuff. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what could have happened. The man had
Speaker 1: a gun with him, He was no stranger to guns.
Speaker 1: He knew how to use them. He had a walkie
Speaker 1: talkie with him, could have pushed the little button on
Speaker 1: the side and called for help. None of that stuff happened.
Speaker 1: The comment that his wife made that she wishes or
Speaker 1: she hopes that someone just came in with the quad
Speaker 1: and heard him and then took him offer, or she
Speaker 1: was afraid that something like that, not that she wished
Speaker 1: that she was afraid of something like that. There were
Speaker 1: enough people in those woods that they would have heard
Speaker 1: a quad, right.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: There was enough people in that woods they would have
Speaker 3: heard something.
Speaker 1: They would have heard a yell for help. He could
Speaker 1: have pushed a button, and as for help, he didn't.
Speaker 1: This one has always baffled me. It's one of the
Speaker 1: first ones that I heard years ago, when probably right
Speaker 1: after I started looking into the whole Bigfoot heavily around
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It was around that time, nineteen twenty that
Speaker 1: I heard about this one. It was one of the
Speaker 1: first ones when I started looking into the Missing four
Speaker 1: and one from David Plattis And this one is always
Speaker 1: stuck out to me for a few reasons. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what to make of this case.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's all the it's all strange to
Speaker 2: me because they had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 2: people searching for him, including the FBI.
Speaker 3: Why did the FBI come in like it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It's like it said in this article, they don't usually
Speaker 2: come in too to look for these people.
Speaker 3: And the grid search they did by.
Speaker 2: Using strings and everything like that to ensure that all
Speaker 2: of this was searched, and there's still nothing.
Speaker 3: No footprints, no clothing. He just vanished into thin air.
Speaker 2: It's like if you look at everything that they deployed
Speaker 2: for him. And I'm not saying it's wrong what they did,
Speaker 2: because I'm glad that they did, But if they did
Speaker 2: that for every missing person, we may.
Speaker 3: Have better outcomes for them. It's just strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of it. You guys, those of you that have
Speaker 1: followed the channel or followed me, and since I started
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen with Manimal Research, those of you that
Speaker 1: have been with me for a while have heard me
Speaker 1: talk about the few times it's happened two or three
Speaker 1: times now that I have been in the woods on
Speaker 1: expeditions and heard this strange metallic sound, this kind of
Speaker 1: a metal sound that just stands out because you're in
Speaker 1: the woods. Everything is made of wood. There should not
Speaker 1: be any metal anywhere. And that's something that's always bothered me,
Speaker 1: was the sound that either one or a couple I
Speaker 1: don't remember exactly how many people heard it, and you
Speaker 1: didn't talk about it in what you just covered, but
Speaker 1: one of the things I remember most about it is
Speaker 1: that sound of that metallic sound. Someone said it sounded
Speaker 1: like a trapdoor slamming shut or an old car door
Speaker 1: slamming shut, and there was nothing like that around. What
Speaker 1: could that have been. I mean, that's always stuck out
Speaker 1: to me because I have heard similar sounds in the woods,
Speaker 1: and it's been in areas where Bigfoot was brevalent right.
Speaker 2: And the gentleman said, I heard a strange noise in
Speaker 2: the woods, but I don't know what it was. It
Speaker 2: was a different noise from what I usually hear. Well,
Speaker 2: these people are in the woods all the time and
Speaker 2: have been in the woods all the time, so you
Speaker 2: can take what they tell you to the bank.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, strange noise. What I did? The did the
Speaker 3: ground open up and take him in?
Speaker 2: I mean, because they even had and as an all
Speaker 2: missing person cases, the weather sucks.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's just with that, I mean, weatherfront come in
Speaker 1: the next morning, right, yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's far for the course.
Speaker 2: But luckily in his case, they were able to get
Speaker 2: the dogs out to try to search for him before
Speaker 2: that happened. However, even with the flear on the helicopter,
Speaker 2: there was no time whatsoever of a warm body or anything.
Speaker 2: It's like in that whole area where they had stationed.
Speaker 3: He just vanished.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more Paranormal Odyssey. Now you've heard you guys,
Speaker 1: you've heard us talk about several other cases we've done.
Speaker 1: We don't want to tie a big foot as a
Speaker 1: possibility to those. I'm leaving it open in this one
Speaker 1: because of just how strange all this is. It's like
Speaker 1: something got to jump on him. Yes, something got him
Speaker 1: before he could push help on the walkie talkie, before
Speaker 1: he could draw his weapon, before he could scream. Something
Speaker 1: snuck up on him and got him and got him
Speaker 1: completely out of there without making a sound and without
Speaker 1: leaving a trace. Now, this happened in New York, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: And from what I heard, it's not terribly far from Whitehall,
Speaker 1: right Hawes, the Bigfoot capital of New York. There are
Speaker 1: are the area that this happened in. There's tons of
Speaker 1: bigfoot reports from the BFRO that I think the three
Speaker 1: counties that surround this area, the county that's in and
Speaker 1: then the three that surround it if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: Someone will will help me out if I'm wrong. I
Speaker 1: think there's like thirteen BFRO reports in those counties. So
Speaker 1: people are seeing something out there, this man. And didn't
Speaker 1: you read Tiffany that this is a place that they
Speaker 1: typically didn't hunt.
Speaker 3: This was their very first time in hag doing this
Speaker 3: area for deer.
Speaker 2: It was the very they went somewhere else for fifty
Speaker 2: five years, and this was their very.
Speaker 3: First time joined this one. So it's fun charter territory.
Speaker 2: But what is.
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, Yeah, And if you're a predator, and I don't
Speaker 1: know that Bigfoot is, I don't know what their purposes
Speaker 1: would have been for take this man. But if you're
Speaker 1: a predator, what are you going to single out on
Speaker 1: a hunt the easiest, Yes, the weakest, the easiest one
Speaker 1: to snatch without a problem. He was eighty two years old.
Speaker 1: The man was blind in one eye and death in
Speaker 1: one ear. He was the easiest one.
Speaker 2: Well, and he had I think, or that wasn't the
Speaker 2: injury on his hand. He had just gotten over the shingles,
Speaker 2: so he was not as quick on his feet as
Speaker 2: he probably would have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean salthy they are, they are. And I
Speaker 1: could just be jumping to a big conclusion there, because
Speaker 1: people are going to ask, how the hell does Bigfoot
Speaker 1: though that he was just getting over shingles or that
Speaker 1: he was blind in one eye unless he got close
Speaker 1: enough to him to tell no. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just that's what I think about when I think about
Speaker 1: predator activity going after prey, is they pick out the
Speaker 1: weakest one. And from everything I've heard, that would have
Speaker 1: been Tom in this case.
Speaker 2: Well, if you look at that animal mentality, look at
Speaker 2: a wolf and a sheep. You have a whole flock
Speaker 2: of sheep, one wolf, and it knows exactly what sheep
Speaker 2: is the weakest one of the whole entire bunch. So
Speaker 2: if we put Bigfoot as having that portion of animal mentality,
Speaker 2: would he be able to pick up on that as
Speaker 2: a wolf does with sheep or any other prey in
Speaker 2: the woods?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean possibly, I don't. It's weird, man, this case,
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's one that I've known about for
Speaker 1: a while. Look, haven't really like researched it or anything
Speaker 1: up until now, but I'm familiar with it. And when
Speaker 1: you mentioned it, yeah, I remember it was just a
Speaker 1: few days ago you text me and said, this, Tom
Speaker 1: Mess the case we need to do together, right instead
Speaker 1: of you know, by ourselves, because this there's going to
Speaker 1: be a lot to talk about in this case. And
Speaker 1: I agree one thousand percent this. I don't know where
Speaker 1: else to go.
Speaker 2: No, I would be interested, And I know they did
Speaker 2: interview that one guy, David Polaitis did interview one member
Speaker 2: of that hunting party.
Speaker 3: But I would be interested in hearing from the.
Speaker 2: Other people who were there and what their opinion of
Speaker 2: everything is or sounds that they might have heard that
Speaker 2: was similar to what this gentleman heard, because it's like
Speaker 2: you said, you hear that that metallic sound anywhere where
Speaker 2: there is a big foot, and you hear people talk
Speaker 2: about hearing that sound also in the LBL, And what's
Speaker 2: in the LBL bigfoot dog man? You know, is it
Speaker 2: all related to the same and what in the hell
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: It's like, does it just suck people up? Is there
Speaker 2: is an opening to a bottle? Is it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 1: That's I mean. When I first heard the person talk
Speaker 1: about they described it as a metella, like a crap
Speaker 1: door slamming. Shit. That's what I envisioned, was a damn door,
Speaker 1: a metal door going into the earth somewhere, somebody or
Speaker 1: something grabbing him, taking him to this door, opened the up,
Speaker 1: throwing him in there and going in and slamming the door. Shit.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I saw it, and I can't remember, and
Speaker 2: somebody may be able to help me out.
Speaker 5: It wasn't expedition Bigfoot that I remember. If it was,
Speaker 5: and I'm wrong, it's okay, but they were using the
Speaker 5: light er scanner on the ground.
Speaker 2: It may be an expedition Bigfoot, but it looked like
Speaker 2: on the four floor. It was concrete like you could
Speaker 2: like there were pipes leading up for like you know,
Speaker 2: gases to go out of and it was like you
Speaker 2: could go in the ground like there was some kind
Speaker 2: of secret base under there.
Speaker 1: Damn, I don't remember that. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: saw that.
Speaker 2: It's it's been a minute since i've seen it, but
Speaker 2: I remember that, and it just makes.
Speaker 3: Me wonder if, in fact, it is something like that.
Speaker 2: The only reason they found it was that light oar
Speaker 2: scanner or the ground penetrating radar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know something about Yeah, you know something else,
Speaker 1: Tiffany that I don't tend to give a whole lot
Speaker 1: of thought about because I'm just I'm not as interested
Speaker 1: in it as these other topics. But what about UFOs. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't being abducted.
Speaker 3: It happens, and.
Speaker 2: You hear one minute gone the next I think, I
Speaker 2: think you have to put that into the realm of
Speaker 2: possibilities in this case too.
Speaker 3: Because he was by himself. What if the metallic sound
Speaker 3: they heard was something with.
Speaker 2: And I know it's a stretch, I tell you how
Speaker 2: crazy it sounds, But what if it's the sound.
Speaker 3: Of the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean guys, we're not a couple of these
Speaker 1: crazy nut conspiracy theorists that jump straight to conspiracy cover
Speaker 1: ups UFO. You know, cryptis that we don't jump straight
Speaker 1: to that. We try our best not to because we
Speaker 1: want to be respected, and I just don't have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of respect for the people that do that
Speaker 1: that jump straight to the weird right away. But looking
Speaker 1: into this case, you've got to consider something paranormal with this.
Speaker 1: This man knew what he was doing. Like his wife said,
Speaker 1: he would have torn off a piece of his clothing
Speaker 1: and hung it up somewhere for someone to find. He
Speaker 1: didn't get lost. Yes, I heard the word dementia mentioned.
Speaker 1: Was it said that he was suffering from dementia. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard that.
Speaker 3: It was not. It was thrown in there. And I
Speaker 3: really and Lord love them because I don't write these articles.
Speaker 2: I just find them on the internet, make sure they're credible,
Speaker 2: and then we read them. They throw in the word
Speaker 2: dementia or you know, he was on medication, or he
Speaker 2: had talked about this in the past, or this in
Speaker 2: the past, and it just throws shade all over it
Speaker 2: and people don't dig any further. There was nothing else
Speaker 2: found about Tom Messick Senior, that he had dementia, or
Speaker 2: that he had any terminal illness whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if if his family's trusting enough for
Speaker 1: him to walk, Okay, we're going to let Tom walk
Speaker 1: by himself one hundred yards away from the next guy
Speaker 1: and fifty yards into the woods with a loaded, deadly
Speaker 1: weapon in his hand, and we're going to go out
Speaker 1: and push deer his way and let him shoot at
Speaker 1: those deer, then they had to have faith he was
Speaker 1: in his.
Speaker 3: Right mind, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't hand someone with Alzheimer's, especially an army
Speaker 1: vet or a military veteran that could possibly have a flashback.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hand them if they were suffering from dementia,
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's or anything like that. I wouldn't hand them a
Speaker 1: loaded weapon and then go into the woods with them, exactly.
Speaker 2: And if he were suffering any kind of anything, the
Speaker 2: people he were with would not have allowed him to
Speaker 2: do the same either. They would have picked up on something.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't have even let him walk away from them
Speaker 2: if they picked up on something being wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I got to feel, I feel with
Speaker 1: all my heart that his family did not think anything
Speaker 1: was going to happen on this day because there was
Speaker 1: also reports or not reports. I want to clear that
Speaker 1: up right now. There were no reports. It was speculated
Speaker 1: by some people that he wasn't even there, he was
Speaker 1: never there, that this is a cover up, something happened
Speaker 1: to him, and they come up, the family and the
Speaker 1: friends come up with this story. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: you got to have seven or eight people to all
Speaker 1: agree to the same story, to have held strong to
Speaker 1: that same story for what's been nine years now, almost
Speaker 1: ten years now. I don't know if polygraphs have been
Speaker 1: given to any of these people or not, but they
Speaker 1: have never been questioned as to have done anything wrong.
Speaker 1: So I think you can throw that out right. I
Speaker 1: think that's just silly, But it is a fair question.
Speaker 1: I think it has to be asked. Is it Paul,
Speaker 1: that something happened to this man on the way and
Speaker 1: then everyone else tried to cover it up. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair question. But I do not
Speaker 1: think for a second that that's that's what happened, right,
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't find that to be plausible either.
Speaker 1: Because his son was one of the people that was
Speaker 1: with him. I'm not gonna do that shit with my dad, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: People have to take the information, and that's what Wayne
Speaker 3: and I do.
Speaker 2: We take the information that we find that we're given
Speaker 2: and we try to find the truth. You know. We
Speaker 2: don't jump on like he said, we don't jump on
Speaker 2: the vandwagon. If you a bigfoot dog man, you know
Speaker 2: immediately and you have to look in essence at this article.
Speaker 2: All of the logical stuff was done. They did all
Speaker 2: the logic, and there's nothing logical about this.
Speaker 1: Case that I mean that should be the head the
Speaker 1: header for this video. Nothing logical about this case, right, It.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense how he can just walk into
Speaker 2: the woods and disappear.
Speaker 1: It just sucks too because you look at a picture
Speaker 1: of him and he just looks like this sweet grandpa
Speaker 1: that we all have an image of a grandpa and
Speaker 1: it's this dude. When you look at the picture of him,
Speaker 1: he just looked like a good man that had lived
Speaker 1: his life, served his country, had his wife, his kids,
Speaker 1: his grandkids, and was just living out the end of
Speaker 1: his life, you know, doing what he loved, going out
Speaker 1: with family, hunting and then just steps off the planet somehow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like he never existed.
Speaker 1: It's not fair. The man deserves more than that.
Speaker 3: It's not and I really wish that. You know, they
Speaker 3: search the.
Speaker 2: Water and the caves and the crevices. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's mind boggling because they literally searched everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they left no stone unturned.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I also explain it, but it's like, it's like Albert
Speaker 2: Ospen in twenty four, nineteen twenty four.
Speaker 3: Now, granted that I know of, they didn't he didn't have.
Speaker 2: Anybody searching for him, but just as quickly as he
Speaker 2: claimed to be picked up and thrown over the shoulder
Speaker 2: in the sleeping bag, and he was gone for six days.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're stealthy, they're quiet, they're fast. It's hard
Speaker 2: to tell.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Are there any other points
Speaker 1: you want to hit on, Tiffany, I don't want to
Speaker 1: beat a dead horse.
Speaker 3: No, No, that was that was pretty much all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, this one is crazy, and of all the
Speaker 1: ones that we've done so far, this one is the
Speaker 1: one so far that I lean heavily on, more heavily
Speaker 1: on a paranormal or a cryptid related disappearance. Yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: all right, guys. If y'all have any suggestions, any cases
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