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Speaker 2: So I'm really excited about tonight's episode. This is a
Speaker 2: text called the Pistas Sophia, which is a very profound
Speaker 2: Gnostic text. Surprisingly enough, I had never read it. I
Speaker 2: had heard very little about it. And the Gnostic body
Speaker 2: of literature is although it's very popular and it's very
Speaker 2: like famously understood to be uh profound and and and
Speaker 2: by a lot of people real and and you know,
Speaker 2: all that good stuff, it's it's a particular text that
Speaker 2: I had never really heard recommended that much or particularly
Speaker 2: talked about most people. When you think gnosticism, first text
Speaker 2: that pops to mind in any in any like you know,
Speaker 2: mainstream reference or just regular conversation is Gospel of Thomas.
Speaker 3: It's a good one.
Speaker 2: People talk about the Gospel of Judas, the Gospel of
Speaker 2: Mary Magdalene, the Secret Book of John, the Gospel of Truth.
Speaker 2: These are all like really popular Gnostic texts. So I
Speaker 2: kind of was focused on more reading those, the Gospel
Speaker 2: of Philip, you know, and it's like, wow, this is
Speaker 2: really cool reading all these alternative gospels. And I just
Speaker 2: had a wilditch one night last week for some reason.
Speaker 3: I don't even know why.
Speaker 2: I was just like, you know, I want to look
Speaker 2: into the Pistol Sophia, and I'm kindle, I'm gonna pull
Speaker 2: it up really quick. On on, kindle, I own, this
Speaker 2: is gonna take a second bload. I own the Noghamadi
Speaker 2: scriptures by let me find the author here by I
Speaker 2: wish it would tell me, actually, come on now, by Meyer,
Speaker 2: Marvin w and James Robinson. It's just I'm not like
Speaker 2: necessarily recommending them or anything. I don't know anything about them.
Speaker 2: It's just several years ago I bought the Naghamity text
Speaker 2: and they happened to be the author. There's like one
Speaker 2: hundred different versions with you know, different scholars giving their
Speaker 2: interpretations of text. And I'm looking through this and I
Speaker 2: actually I had been slowly working my way through it,
Speaker 2: reading an order in the way that it presented them
Speaker 2: to me, and I just got to noticing that not
Speaker 2: all of the Nagamadi library is even in it, and
Speaker 2: the Pista Sophia is not in it, and I was like,
Speaker 2: that's weird, why is it not in it?
Speaker 3: So I googled it.
Speaker 2: I found a PDFL line and I laid in bed
Speaker 2: to like one in the morning until I was falling
Speaker 2: asleep reading through the Pista Sophia, and I found that
Speaker 2: it is extraordinarily long. It is like like four hundred pages.
Speaker 2: It's four books. It's not just one little text, it's
Speaker 2: it's four books comprising a complete body of knowledge known
Speaker 2: as the Pisto Sophia. So I was like, Wow, why
Speaker 2: don't I know anything about this other than it's gnostic.
Speaker 2: And when I started diving into it, it honestly blew
Speaker 2: my mind. And it's one of the most profound texts
Speaker 2: that I've ever read. And it's so long that I
Speaker 2: didn't even get to finish it. I got half way
Speaker 2: after working my way through it, you know here and
Speaker 2: there when I have time listening to audiobook reading it.
Speaker 2: In the last week, I've had a really busy week
Speaker 2: and you know, we're preparing for the baby and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So I didn't even get to finish it.
Speaker 2: It's so long, but I pretty much like read half
Speaker 2: of it, and then I went through all the in
Speaker 2: depth analyzes about it. I do plan to finish it
Speaker 2: because it's very profound and it's very riveting, and I
Speaker 2: think everybody on this path should at least attempt to
Speaker 2: read it. Long story short, it blew my mind. I'm
Speaker 2: excited to talk about it. It is very profound. I
Speaker 2: didn't know any of the contents contained in it, and
Speaker 2: I think it has a lot of implications about the
Speaker 2: teachings of Christ and even the Lady that I've always
Speaker 2: implicitly known to be true, but now we can find
Speaker 2: them a doctrine that was You know, if we understand
Speaker 2: what the nag Commodi Library is, it is historic documents
Speaker 2: attributed to the teachings of Jesus which were banned as
Speaker 2: heretical by the Church, the imperial authority that before it
Speaker 2: was the Church, it was the Roman Empire. You know,
Speaker 2: they with the help of the Sadducees and the Pharisees
Speaker 2: and the priestly Jewish class, they basically conspired to kill Christ.
Speaker 2: You know, so like the Roman authorities are responsible. And
Speaker 2: it's crazy when you know that in the history of that,
Speaker 2: because they eventually went on to become the authority on
Speaker 2: Christianity and pass laws to only allowed to be taught
Speaker 2: certain ways, and we had the Maccabean Revolt in sixty
Speaker 2: nine AD, and basically, you know, the Romans that the
Speaker 2: Empire of the time, assaulted and destroyed the Temple of Solomon,
Speaker 2: the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, and you know, for a
Speaker 2: lot of you know, Christians and Jews who were basically
Speaker 2: under occupation of the Roman Empire, it was like the
Speaker 2: end of the world for them. It was a very
Speaker 2: major collapsing of their culture.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So and then the people that did this, the Roman
Speaker 2: Imperial Empire, basically authority over the next few hundred years.
Speaker 2: They decided what you're allowed to talk about and if
Speaker 2: you can only talk about Jesus. It was like three
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve or three hundred and thirteen the Edict
Speaker 2: of Milan was passed by Emperor Constantine, where he single
Speaker 2: handedly decided Christianity will be legal. And then it wasn't
Speaker 2: until like I think three hundred and eighty three by
Speaker 2: Emperor Theodosius who said, we're going to officially adopt Christianity
Speaker 2: as the religion of the Empire. And it wasn't until
Speaker 2: about three hundred and sixty five if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: that the Holy Bible was created and between you know,
Speaker 2: three twelve and three sixty five, and I could have
Speaker 2: the date of three sixty five wrong. But between the
Speaker 2: Edict of Milan, where the Holy Roman Empire before it
Speaker 2: was the Holy Roman Empire, it was just the Roman
Speaker 2: Empire before they decided that Christianity was even legal, and
Speaker 2: then you know, they were killing and slaughtering Christians for
Speaker 2: three hundred years who were worshiping underground secretly in Mithraic catacombs.
Speaker 2: Fun fact, Christianity was more or less a cult, not
Speaker 2: in the bad way and our modern understanding, but in
Speaker 2: the scholarly understanding of you know, in the ancient past,
Speaker 2: there were many different sects and traditions that would pop up,
Speaker 2: and they were, you know, technically known as cults. Christianity
Speaker 2: started as a cult, and they had to worship in
Speaker 2: secret underground because the Romans were killing them, beheading them,
Speaker 2: you know, burning them alive. They were crucifying them, literally
Speaker 2: crucifying them. Right point being to not go on that
Speaker 2: tangent for too much longer. Three twelve Edict of Milan,
Speaker 2: or it was three thirteen, it's one of those years.
Speaker 2: And then three eighty two or three eighty three Christianity legalized,
Speaker 2: and in between, i mean not legalized, I'm sorry, adopted
Speaker 2: as the Roman religion. So in between that period of
Speaker 2: like seventy years, they passed all these different that they
Speaker 2: had councils, the Council of Nicea, the councils of Constantinople,
Speaker 2: et cetera, where they dictated literally legally what is allowed
Speaker 2: to be adopted as Christian doctrine. So we just have
Speaker 2: to understand for the modern Christian thinker, we have to
Speaker 2: understand that just because it's in the text published as
Speaker 2: the Holy Bible by these same people that killed him,
Speaker 2: that does not mean that other texts found and authentically
Speaker 2: dated to the actual life and times of Jesus Christ
Speaker 2: are any less authentic in their spiritual nature and their
Speaker 2: authority right that there is a very strong possibility that
Speaker 2: they could have been adopted into doctrine if the right
Speaker 2: people at the top, you know, were making those choices
Speaker 2: to empower the people.
Speaker 3: But they weren't.
Speaker 2: They sifted through and they chose what texts they wanted
Speaker 2: to establish doctrine. Literally, the majority of the New Testament
Speaker 2: is comprised of texts attributed to the apostle Paul, who
Speaker 2: had a different understanding of the teachings of Jesus, and
Speaker 2: he literally never even met him. He came around probably
Speaker 2: around like fifty a d or something like that many
Speaker 2: years after Christ was killed, and he was like, I'm
Speaker 2: you know, this great and mighty disciple and he never
Speaker 2: even met him, and all the other disciples are like, dude,
Speaker 2: go away, you're freaking annoying. Go talk to the gentiles.
Speaker 3: In other countries.
Speaker 2: The majority of our Christian doctor today technically could be
Speaker 2: called pollyanity, where literally theological doctrine, a lot of it
Speaker 2: comes from the words of the apostle Paul, things like
Speaker 2: you have to confess with your mouth that Jesus, you know,
Speaker 2: was born of a virgin, that he died for three days,
Speaker 2: and that he rose from the dead, and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sitting here trying to debate if any
Speaker 2: of that actual stuff is real or false. The point
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make is that there is a lot
Speaker 2: of wisdom and value in the Gnostic texts, and if
Speaker 2: we are in pursuit pursuit of the truth, we have
Speaker 2: to open our minds and we have to read all
Speaker 2: of the texts genuinely purported to be associated with Christ
Speaker 2: and the teachings of Christ. And you know, the Gnostic
Speaker 2: texts are old, and we also have to understand why
Speaker 2: they would have hid them because in these councils, you know, Nicea, Constantinople,
Speaker 2: they were passing laws saying that any other Christian sect
Speaker 2: or doctrine than the one that is being given by
Speaker 2: the Roman authority is considered heretical, and that it is
Speaker 2: punishable by death to kill them if they teach another doctrine,
Speaker 2: literally slaughter them. So they hid these texts in Egypt.
Speaker 2: That's why they were found, you know, a thousand years later,
Speaker 2: because they were being slaughtered as heretics, the ones who
Speaker 2: contained these scrolls, and they you know, they had to
Speaker 2: hide them, they had to preserve them because they knew
Speaker 2: that was coming, that their death was approaching. You know,
Speaker 2: it was literally law that they would be killed if
Speaker 2: they were discovered being proponents of this doctrine.
Speaker 3: And we have evidence of the.
Speaker 2: You could say, gnostic version of Jesus, you know that
Speaker 2: theology going all the way to the top to where
Speaker 2: in the five hundred forties I believe it was five
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five a d Emperor Justinius, I think
Speaker 2: it was Justinius the third. He through the second Council
Speaker 2: of Constantinople banned the doctrine of reincarnation also known as originism,
Speaker 2: punishable by death, because even the Pope at the time
Speaker 2: was a proponent of this doctrine. Christians at the time,
Speaker 2: not the authority, not the people in power, you know,
Speaker 2: pushing it on their masses, but the actual people, like
Speaker 2: the loyal, true Christians of the time, all the way
Speaker 2: up to five hundred and forty five, many of them
Speaker 2: believed and taught reincarnation. Why that's not in the Bible,
Speaker 2: I got news for you. It's in the Gnostic text,
Speaker 2: just in the Pisto Sophia, it's in others. So we
Speaker 2: have to wear the lens of open mindedness and the
Speaker 2: pursuit of truth and understand why there is value in
Speaker 2: these texts and why they are a missing piece of
Speaker 2: the puzzle. And there's a lot of wisdom in them.
Speaker 2: And I think that for far too long humanity has
Speaker 2: gotten way too caught up in the weeds of trying
Speaker 2: to understand the minutia of the details of you know, well,
Speaker 2: what name is God? Well, did Jesus really rise.
Speaker 3: From the dead?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't care. Do I think it's possible?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Do I need exact proof and have to like pledge
Speaker 2: my life on whether that is true or not. No,
Speaker 2: I care more about the message. I care more about
Speaker 2: the teachings. I think people get way too caught up
Speaker 2: and you know, the technicalities of ancient stories that they
Speaker 2: you know, they they go to war over this and
Speaker 2: they crucify and they hate people over the fact that
Speaker 2: they believe in something differently.
Speaker 3: So anyway, that was.
Speaker 2: A little bit of a long intro there, but I'm
Speaker 2: excited about this text because it contains a lot of
Speaker 2: information that I always intuitively knew to be true that
Speaker 2: I didn't know was, you know, verbatim written in there.
Speaker 2: So before I get into the Episto Sophia, I have
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Speaker 2: to the subject at hand, let's talk about the Pistos Sophia. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's just get into it. This is a very
Speaker 2: profound text. Like I said, it's like four hundred pages.
Speaker 2: It's four books comprised into one, you know, sort of canon,
Speaker 2: so to speak. And it's interesting because it provides a
Speaker 2: perspective to Jesus that I was not yet aware of.
Speaker 2: I always like, when you hear about the Gnostic stuff,
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, you know, it's mystical Jesus, very cool,
Speaker 2: you know. And I think at every probably you know,
Speaker 2: everybody who's a christ at least and otherwise maybe, but
Speaker 2: especially Christian, you're exposed to this. I remember the first
Speaker 2: time I ever heard of, like the Gospel of Judas.
Speaker 2: I was in high school and I didn't even know
Speaker 2: what Gnostics were. And they're like, there's this blasphemous text
Speaker 2: and it like, you know, suggests that Judas and Jesus
Speaker 2: were friends and it was all planned. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: what that sounds weird. I think, at like first, at first,
Speaker 2: there's levels to this when you're exposed to this information.
Speaker 2: I'll just go through the levels. I went through right.
Speaker 2: But at first exposure, you're like, ooh, that's not in
Speaker 2: the Bible. It's not ken and it's demonic, it's fake,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then you dive deeper
Speaker 2: and you research, you know, the history and the significance
Speaker 2: of it and how it was found while it was
Speaker 2: hitting all that stuff that I kind of hinted at earlier,
Speaker 2: and you realize, Okay, there's something to this. And then
Speaker 2: you get into the doctrine and the cosmology and you're like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, you know it's it's kind of really different
Speaker 2: from mainstream Christianity. I'm liking what they're putting down. You know,
Speaker 2: it's mystical Jesus talking about reincarnation and other stuff. But
Speaker 2: then you go deeper and you start reading it and
Speaker 2: you start diving into it. I'm a big believer in
Speaker 2: you know, you have to study first hand sources. I
Speaker 2: can sit all day and I can read other people's
Speaker 2: opinions about something. I would rather go drink directly from
Speaker 2: the stream. I would rather go and you know, do
Speaker 2: my best and do my hardest to read the original
Speaker 2: and try to form my own opinions of something. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm curious and I think everybody that listens to this
Speaker 2: is curious. You know, we're in pursuit of knowledge, so
Speaker 2: I recommend people read first hand sources.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So that's why I say the next step is you
Speaker 2: begin to read the original texts, and like I said,
Speaker 2: working through several of the other NOSTA texts, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, this is great. But then reading the Pissos
Speaker 2: so Field was like, whoa, this is crazy. So it
Speaker 2: essentially tells the story.
Speaker 3: That after.
Speaker 2: Eleven years after the resurrection of Christ, that he is
Speaker 2: still around, which in the New Testament it's like he
Speaker 2: was only around for forty days.
Speaker 3: And then he's gone forever.
Speaker 2: Right, you know that story with the Pentecost and he
Speaker 2: resurrects on Easter, right, and then you know he sticks
Speaker 2: around for forty days and then.
Speaker 3: In the like ethereal form.
Speaker 2: No, he's he sticks around for forty days after resurrecting
Speaker 2: from the dead in the in the in the Gospels,
Speaker 2: in the Bible, is this physical or life body?
Speaker 3: Both?
Speaker 2: He goes in between both, Okay, but he's actually I
Speaker 2: didn't know this, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's just like
Speaker 2: this is not like a theory. This is just like
Speaker 2: what Christians believe and is in their Bible. This is
Speaker 2: the whole story of the Pentecost and the Holy Spirit. Right,
Speaker 2: So he resurrects on Easter, uh sticks around for forty
Speaker 2: days according to the gospels. Then he says, when I
Speaker 2: one will come after me, the comforter he's referring to
Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit. He disappears, he ascends, and then there's
Speaker 2: ten days where the disciples are distraught while we ever
Speaker 2: see him again. And then on the fiftieth day, which
Speaker 2: is you know, ten days after he leaves, on the
Speaker 2: fiftieth day after resurrection, the Holy Spirit descends as a flame.
Speaker 2: And this is where the notion of speaking in tongues
Speaker 2: comes into play, because it's like a flame, you know,
Speaker 2: descends on the disciples, and then they start speaking in
Speaker 2: all these diverse languages that are like, you know, magical, mystical, prophetic,
Speaker 2: and they can have this gift to interpret it and
Speaker 2: it sounds for him, but like it has some profound
Speaker 2: spiritual meanings. So it's just the old Bible story, right,
Speaker 2: and that's it. And then according to the Bible, he's
Speaker 2: gone forever until you know, eventually he's supposed to come back.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: The Gnostics, they had a different version, and this was
Speaker 2: eleven years after the resurrection story, and he's still around,
Speaker 2: and he's still teaching the disciples, and he's very gradually
Speaker 2: bringing them through the mysteries. A lot of emphasis on mystery,
Speaker 2: like hundreds, if not thousands of times in this text
Speaker 2: is the word mystery, mystery, mystery, and the cosmology that
Speaker 2: it provides is so profound because it discusses God, the
Speaker 2: ineffable one, being the first mystery, the first and the last.
Speaker 2: So he's the first and the twenty fourth mystery because
Speaker 2: the first mystery, being the ineffable God, the true source
Speaker 2: of all reality and all creation, cannot be comprehended, cannot
Speaker 2: be described, can only be experienced and understood through wisdom
Speaker 2: of experience. Right, So it's ineffable, which is a word
Speaker 2: that means it baffles the mind. We can't even we
Speaker 2: can't even understand.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So it's the first mystery of all reality.
Speaker 3: And he speaks of a.
Speaker 2: Series of mysteries that dec send from you know, the
Speaker 2: first mystery being the highest, going down to twenty four
Speaker 2: different mysteries, and they are things like sacred rights of baptism,
Speaker 2: angelic beings in higher worlds, the Sophia all the way
Speaker 2: up to you know, the first mystery being the ineffable
Speaker 2: one God, the first and the last also the twenty
Speaker 2: fourth mystery. So the text describes on this on this
Speaker 2: day when Jesus is talking to all his disciples eleven years,
Speaker 2: you know, after he resurrected, something happens to him where
Speaker 2: he begins to like the heavens open up, and a
Speaker 2: light comes down and begins to shine on him, and
Speaker 2: he begins to be transfigured into a being of light,
Speaker 2: and the light from him begins to shine so profoundly
Speaker 2: that the disciples can't look look at him directly, and
Speaker 2: he raises into the heavens and disappears and transcends physical reality.
Speaker 2: And for like, it's like eleven or fifteen days. I
Speaker 2: haven't written down. I'll read it in a second, whatever
Speaker 2: the exact time is, but it's like eleven or fifteen days.
Speaker 2: He's he's gone, and the disciples are crying, they're they're
Speaker 2: you know, the they're mourning him leaving. They don't know
Speaker 2: what happened. And then he returns. He descends in this
Speaker 2: form of a great resplendent light. He descends down from
Speaker 2: the heavens into the physical world. The whole earth shakes,
Speaker 2: there's miracles happening, earthquakes, all this stuff or you know,
Speaker 2: rumblings of thunder and all that. And let me just
Speaker 2: read it, because I wrote down this part and it's
Speaker 2: very interesting. It's a very cool story. I hope it
Speaker 2: didn't drown it out when I'm on the edge of
Speaker 2: my seat here. This is actually from the text the
Speaker 2: Pisto Sophia. It happened, however, on the fifteenth of the
Speaker 2: moon in the month of Tobe, which is I don't
Speaker 2: know exactly what that would be related to. Now buttis
Speaker 2: like Tobe. You know, they had different names from months
Speaker 2: back then. It happened on the fifteenth of the moon
Speaker 2: in the month of Tobe, which is the day on
Speaker 2: which the moon becomes full. Now, on that day, when
Speaker 2: the sun had risen on its path, there came forth
Speaker 2: after it a great power of light, giving a very
Speaker 2: great light. And there was no measure to its accompanying light,
Speaker 2: For it came forth from the light of lights, and
Speaker 2: it came forth from the last mystery, which is the
Speaker 2: twenty fourth mystery. From within outwards, these which are in
Speaker 2: the ranks of the second space of the first mystery.
Speaker 2: That light power, however, came down upon Jesus, and it
Speaker 2: surrounded him completely, as he was sitting at a distance
Speaker 2: from his disciples, and he gave light exceeding exceedingly, there
Speaker 2: being no measure to the light which was his. And
Speaker 2: the disciples did not see Jesus because of the great
Speaker 2: light in which he was, or which was his. For
Speaker 2: their eyes were darkened because of the great light in
Speaker 2: which he was, But they only saw the light which
Speaker 2: cast forth many rays of light, and the rays of
Speaker 2: light were not equal to one another, and the light
Speaker 2: was of many kinds, and it was of different types
Speaker 2: from below upwards, so that one ray was many times
Speaker 2: more excellent than another, in a great glory of light
Speaker 2: to which there was no measure. It reached from the
Speaker 2: earth below upwards to the heavens. And when the disciples
Speaker 2: saw that light, they were in great fear and in
Speaker 2: great agitation. Now it happened when the light power had
Speaker 2: come down upon Jesus, it gradually surrounded him completely. Then
Speaker 2: Jesus rose or ascended to the height, giving light exceedingly exceedingly,
Speaker 2: with a light to which there was no measure, and
Speaker 2: the disciples gazed after him, and not one of them
Speaker 2: spoke until he had reached the heavens, but they all
Speaker 2: kept a great silence. Now these things happened on the
Speaker 2: fifteenth of the moon, on the day of which it
Speaker 2: is full, in the month of Toby. Now it happened
Speaker 2: when Jesus went up to heaven. After three hours, all
Speaker 2: the powers of the heavens were disturbed, and they all
Speaker 2: shook against one another, they and all their AONs, and
Speaker 2: all their places, and all their ranks, and the whole
Speaker 2: earth moved with all who dwelt upon it, and all
Speaker 2: the men in the world were agitated, and also the disciples,
Speaker 2: and they all thought, perhaps the world will be rolled up.
Speaker 2: And all the powers which are in the heavens did
Speaker 2: not cease from their agitation, they and the whole world,
Speaker 2: and they all moved against one another from the third
Speaker 2: hour of the fifteenth of the moon in the month
Speaker 2: of Toby until the ninth hour of the following day.
Speaker 2: And all the angels and their archangels, and all the
Speaker 2: powers of the heights sang praises to the innermost of
Speaker 2: the inner so that the whole world heard their voices.
Speaker 2: And they did not cease until the ninth hour of
Speaker 2: the following day. The disciples, however, sat with one another
Speaker 2: in fear and were greatly agitated. They were afraid, however,
Speaker 2: on account of the great earthquake which happened, and they
Speaker 2: wept together, saying, what will happen now? Perhaps the Savior
Speaker 2: will destroy all their places. As they were saying these
Speaker 2: things and were weeping to one another, on the ninth
Speaker 2: hour of the following day, the heavens open and they
Speaker 2: saw Jesus coming down, giving light exceedingly, And there was
Speaker 2: no measure to the light in which he was, for
Speaker 2: he gave more light than in the hour that he
Speaker 2: went up to the heaven, so that the men of
Speaker 2: the world were not even able to speak of the
Speaker 2: light which was his. And it cast forth many rays
Speaker 2: of light, and there was no measure to its rays.
Speaker 2: And his light was not equal throughout. But it was
Speaker 2: of different kinds, and it was of different types, so
Speaker 2: that some were many times superior to others. And the
Speaker 2: whole light together was in three forms, and the one
Speaker 2: was many times superior to the other, The second, which
Speaker 2: was in the middle, was superior to the first, which
Speaker 2: was below, and the third, which was above them. All
Speaker 2: was superior to the second, which was below and the
Speaker 2: first ray, which was below them. All was similar to
Speaker 2: the light which had come down upon Jesus before he
Speaker 2: went up to heaven, and it was quite equal to
Speaker 2: it in its light. And the three light forms were
Speaker 2: of different kinds of light, and they were of different types,
Speaker 2: and some were many types superior to others. It happened, however,
Speaker 2: when the disciples saw these, they were greatly afraid and agitated.
Speaker 2: Now Jesus the compassionate and tenderhearted, when he saw that
Speaker 2: his disciples were in great agitation, he spoke to them, saying,
Speaker 2: be courageous. It is I do not fear. Now it happened.
Speaker 2: When the disciples heard these words, they said, Lord, if
Speaker 2: it be thou, draw thy light glory to thyself so
Speaker 2: that we can stand. Otherwise our eyes are darkened, that
Speaker 2: we are agitated, and also the whole world is agitated
Speaker 2: because of the great light which is thine. Then Jesus
Speaker 2: drew to himself the glory of his light. And when
Speaker 2: this happened, all the disciples took courage. They came before Jesus.
Speaker 2: They prostrated themselves. At the same time, they worshiped him
Speaker 2: rejoicing with great joy. They said to him, Rabbi, where
Speaker 2: didst thou go? Or what was thy service in which
Speaker 2: thou didst go? Or for what reason were all these
Speaker 2: disturbances and all these earthquakes which happened. Then Jesus the
Speaker 2: Compassionate said to them, rejoice and be glad from this hour,
Speaker 2: because I have been to the places from whence I
Speaker 2: came forth. From today onwards. Now I will speak with
Speaker 2: you openly from the beginning of the truth until it's completion,
Speaker 2: and I will speak with you face to face without
Speaker 2: parable I will not conceal from you from this hour
Speaker 2: onwards anything of the things of the height and of
Speaker 2: the place of truth, for I have been given authority
Speaker 2: through the ineffable and through the first mystery of all mysteries,
Speaker 2: that I should speak with you from the beginning until
Speaker 2: the pleroma, and from within outwards and from without inwards.
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Speaker 2: Then for the rest of the text, he basically tells
Speaker 2: the story of how he ascended all the way to
Speaker 2: the highest level of reality to the first mystery, which
Speaker 2: is God, and he tells a tale of Sophia. The
Speaker 2: pistis Sofia, the goddess, the first emanated being from the
Speaker 2: True God, that as he ascends through the realms of
Speaker 2: all the different layers of reality, he sees that she's
Speaker 2: trapped in the lowest world, and he tells the story
Speaker 2: of how the reality itself was created, and that when
Speaker 2: he passes through the different gates of the different orders
Speaker 2: of the cosmos, that there are beings there that see
Speaker 2: his light and they seek to wage war with the
Speaker 2: light because there are archontic beings that are you know,
Speaker 2: trapping lower worlds beneath them. It's it's like a it's
Speaker 2: like a hierarchy of emanated worlds, and in many of
Speaker 2: these different worlds there are like gatekeepers that don't allow
Speaker 2: you to pass the higher worlds basically, and that's prevalent
Speaker 2: and other gnostic text too, And we talked about that
Speaker 2: in the Tibetan Book of the Dead episode, and you know,
Speaker 2: in the Egyptian Book of the Dead it speaks of
Speaker 2: a similar thing where when you die, there are projections
Speaker 2: of basically psychic forces that seek to test you and
Speaker 2: prevent you from uh transcending to higher realities until you
Speaker 2: awaken to the truth, you know, to knowledge. So you know,
Speaker 2: he he he ascends through all these different levels of reality,
Speaker 2: and as he goes to each level, you know, through
Speaker 2: the level of the Arkans controlling the physical material world,
Speaker 2: through the level of fate and death of the beings
Speaker 2: there that are guiding the destiny of souls up to
Speaker 2: you know, the called the Treasury of Light, which is
Speaker 2: like the realm where all ascended beings, including Jesus. You know,
Speaker 2: it's basically heaven. It's like the realm where dwells the
Speaker 2: first Mystery, the True God. It's a realm of pure light,
Speaker 2: no material reality, but it's pure ascended heavenly beings. And
Speaker 2: there are what is known as the Invisible Ones, twenty
Speaker 2: four invisible ones. In the Book of Revelation, it speaks
Speaker 2: of twenty four elders that sit by the thrones of
Speaker 2: the Throne of God, if you're familiar with that. Very
Speaker 2: interesting because the Rosicrucians talk about this notion we've discussed
Speaker 2: with the white robes thing. You know, all these different
Speaker 2: esoteric societies. This is just a tangent, not related to
Speaker 2: the text necessarily, but all these different esoteric societies have
Speaker 2: their own way that they interpret the advanced spiritual beings
Speaker 2: that exist in the spirit world that guide humanity. In
Speaker 2: theosophy they call it Great White Brotherhood, and you know,
Speaker 2: Templarism they just say it's the true Order, and Rosicrucianism
Speaker 2: they call them the invisible Ones. So I did find
Speaker 2: that quite interesting that in this text he refers to
Speaker 2: the twenty four invisible Ones that reside in the Treasury
Speaker 2: of Light, that are basically the twenty four archetypal emanations
Speaker 2: of the mind of God. Otherwise probably could be related
Speaker 2: to the twenty four Elders in the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 2: So anyway, his sins all the way up to that realm,
Speaker 2: and you know, somewhere along his journey he sees that Sophia,
Speaker 2: the goddess who resided. I forgot to mention this, But
Speaker 2: the reality is comprised of thirteen AONs. AONs can be
Speaker 2: seen in gnostic cosmology. It can be seen as realms,
Speaker 2: but it can also be seen as thought forms, psychic
Speaker 2: beings that are not in the physical world. But they
Speaker 2: you know, they're they're like actual personalities, they're their spiritual entities,
Speaker 2: and they are emanated in different levels of power and
Speaker 2: radiant light all the way down to you know, the
Speaker 2: lowest day on is here the physical world. It's void
Speaker 2: of light, it's darkness, it's chaos. So the thirteenth Adon
Speaker 2: being the highest Aon, and then above that one step
Speaker 2: is the treasury of light, heaven and a way of
Speaker 2: speaking right where God is the highest world, the first mystery.
Speaker 2: And then you have the thirteenth Aon, which is where
Speaker 2: the lady lives according to this text, and then below
Speaker 2: her the twelfth, the eleventh, the tenth, all the way
Speaker 2: down is like the kind of the archontic beings that
Speaker 2: that you know, control the levels below them. So he
Speaker 2: goes on to tell the story of the fall of
Speaker 2: Sophia into the darkness. Sophia looked up towards the light,
Speaker 2: and she sees the resplendent light of the True God,
Speaker 2: and there is an inner urging from her soul, which
Speaker 2: it goes on to say, is an expression of the
Speaker 2: most high God being. Even within her, there's an inner
Speaker 2: urging from her soul to be one with that light,
Speaker 2: the light of the highest God, the ineffable one. So
Speaker 2: she looks up and she says, I long for this
Speaker 2: light I wish to be with this light. I believe
Speaker 2: in this light. This is you know, my God, my Lord.
Speaker 2: Even the lady, even the goddess, right, there's one above her,
Speaker 2: the Father, as we could understand. And you know regular
Speaker 2: Christian terminology or Shiva, and you know Shaivism, or you
Speaker 2: know Buddha and Tibetan Buddhism.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's all the same concept of the supreme being that
Speaker 2: is ineffable and incomprehensible to the human mind, that exists
Speaker 2: in a physical body. So even the Goddess, she looks
Speaker 2: above and she says, I long to be with this light.
Speaker 2: But what happens is she's tricked and she doesn't understand
Speaker 2: that she's actually looking below, and it is what is
Speaker 2: called the arrogant one or the self willed one. In
Speaker 2: other texts, it could be linked with the yell, deboath
Speaker 2: or the demi urge. So she sees this, she doesn't
Speaker 2: realize that she is seeing a false light, and she
Speaker 2: believes it as God in the highest realm, but she's
Speaker 2: seeing an imitation of this light, and in her blindness,
Speaker 2: it's not bad intention on her part, but she doesn't
Speaker 2: understand that it's a trick. She goes to this light,
Speaker 2: so she descends into lower worlds thinking that she's transcending
Speaker 2: into higher realities. And when she approaches this light, it
Speaker 2: ensnares her and it summons all of its demonic forces
Speaker 2: of the different you know, realities, to siphon her light,
Speaker 2: to steal her light, and it traps her there in
Speaker 2: chaos and the lowest realm of darkness, where we are
Speaker 2: basically trapped into, you know, having no light. We have
Speaker 2: only a little sliver of the light, because everything has light,
Speaker 2: even evil has light. It's a specterr It's like when
Speaker 2: you turn off the light, there's still trace amounts of
Speaker 2: photons in any given scenario, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's you know, if you go to zero kelvin, oh,
Speaker 2: reality ceases to exist. It's not possible, really, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Even cold, it's just a scale of
Speaker 2: diminishing heat. You can't have one without the other. So
Speaker 2: like even in the darkest room, there's slivers of light.
Speaker 2: Do you see what I'm saying. I'm not saying evil
Speaker 2: is good. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that even
Speaker 2: the dark beings have a sliver of the light, because
Speaker 2: everything comes from the first mystery, the source of everything,
Speaker 2: even the bad things do and they don't know it.
Speaker 4: It makes me think of math, and I did really
Speaker 4: bad in math. But I'm pretty sure the exponential curves
Speaker 4: will never completely touch the axis, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm maybe I'm off here, but I do know
Speaker 4: they go closer and closer and closer and closer and
Speaker 4: closer and closer and closer, but never actually touch, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: always that sliver of light.
Speaker 2: And many of these dark beings do know, you know,
Speaker 2: the light from whence they came? But they It's like
Speaker 2: it says in this text, the arrogant one he seeks.
Speaker 2: It's like the story of Lucifer, Like I am God
Speaker 2: and there's no you know, other God better than me,
Speaker 2: and I deserve to.
Speaker 3: Sit on that throne.
Speaker 2: Whereas that wasn't Sophia's motive. Her motive was I long
Speaker 2: to be with this and oneness and union with this,
Speaker 2: and to grow, you know, to go higher, not in arrogance,
Speaker 2: but in faith. So she descends into the lowest world.
Speaker 2: She's tricked by the false light, and it summons all
Speaker 2: of its dark forces.
Speaker 3: To ensnare her and to remove her light.
Speaker 2: And then she goes through a series of thirteen repentances,
Speaker 2: which throughout the text Jesus is describing how as she
Speaker 2: is trapped in the darkness and in the light, she
Speaker 2: begins to pray to God the ineffable one, the first mystery.
Speaker 2: She says, God saved my soul. Don't let me be
Speaker 2: trapped in this darkness, you know. And there's like these
Speaker 2: really wonderful transcripts of the prayers that is alleged that
Speaker 2: she makes. And you know, after she gets to a
Speaker 2: certain number of these repentances, Jesus in the form of
Speaker 2: this Being of Light, as is described in the beginning,
Speaker 2: where he transcends physical reality and goes through the highest
Speaker 2: realms all the way up to God, Jesus a scent
Speaker 2: as an expression of the most high God to rescue
Speaker 2: her from being ensnared in the darkness, and she gives
Speaker 2: thirteen repentances. And as Jesus is reciting these repentances to
Speaker 2: the disciples, most of which the responses come from Mary Magdalen,
Speaker 2: who he says numerous times, the blessed one, for you
Speaker 2: are blessed amongst all women, and you know you will
Speaker 2: be blessed for all generations into eternity. His mother is there.
Speaker 2: She's speaking to him and addressing him as Lord, and
Speaker 2: he's addressing her as doing, you know, a high service
Speaker 2: of God by bringing forth his physical body so that
Speaker 2: the light of the first mystery can be incarnated into
Speaker 2: his vessel. He says things like that, he speaks to Martha,
Speaker 2: which I believe is his sister. And like all the
Speaker 2: other disciples, like at the time would be Salom Andrew, James,
Speaker 2: his brother, Peter, Philip, all of them, they all are
Speaker 2: asking him questions as he's explaining and divulging these mysteries
Speaker 2: and asking them like quizzing them, do you understand this mystery?
Speaker 2: And they're all like me, Can I speak? Can I
Speaker 2: give my interpretation? And then they give their interpretation and
Speaker 2: they're either right or wrong, and he corrects them or
Speaker 2: he says, you know, good for you, you figured it out.
Speaker 2: Now let's go on to the next one. He's revealing
Speaker 2: the mysteries which had only ever been spoken of in
Speaker 2: parable right as he goes through the thirteen repentances that
Speaker 2: were given by the episto Sophia. I think it's like
Speaker 2: the first seven. She's trapped in the darkness, and then Jesus,
Speaker 2: in the form of light, as a manifestation of the
Speaker 2: highest God, appears to her and helps to liberate her
Speaker 2: from the darkness and assists her in reclaiming her light
Speaker 2: so that she can begin to transit into higher worlds.
Speaker 2: And then I think it's like from eight to twelve,
Speaker 2: she is beginning to go through a series of revelations
Speaker 2: and purging of her transgression of error to ascend even
Speaker 2: higher into reclaim more parts of her divine light. And
Speaker 2: then by the thirteenth repentance, she returns to her place
Speaker 2: in the thirteenth aon which is above all of the realities,
Speaker 2: being the first emanated one from the mind of God.
Speaker 2: And as he's going through reciting her thirteen repentances or
Speaker 2: prayers to the highest Light of lights, he reveals for
Speaker 2: all thirteen of them encoded into what we would call
Speaker 2: the Old Testament in the book of the Books of
Speaker 2: Psalms or the I think it's called the Odes to
Speaker 2: Solomon or the Song of Solomon, he encodes all thirteen repentances,
Speaker 2: or he reveals the encoding in those two texts of
Speaker 2: the Old Testament, and how they esoterically relate to the
Speaker 2: Thirteen Repentances as being hidden there in secret to reveal
Speaker 2: to initiates of the mysteries the truth of this knowledge.
Speaker 2: So then he goes on to describe basically that this
Speaker 2: is all an allegory, that the descent of Sophia into
Speaker 2: the darkness is actually an allegory. That the mystery revealed
Speaker 2: is that this is our soul descending into the physical world.
Speaker 2: That this is the ensnaring of the human soul trapped
Speaker 2: in matter, and that the chaos in the darkness, the
Speaker 2: lower realm is Earth, it's it's physical life, and that
Speaker 2: through the series of initiatic revelations of the secret mysteries
Speaker 2: of our soul, through g noses, through purifying our consciousness.
Speaker 2: They go on to describe the thirteen repentances not as
Speaker 2: just like prayers that you speak, you know, it's like
Speaker 2: empty words. But it's more or less the mystery revealed
Speaker 2: is that they are they are levels of realization and
Speaker 2: purification of the soul. It's like you know, achieving certain
Speaker 2: levels of consciousness, renouncing attachment to desires of the flesh,
Speaker 2: the physical world, the trap and illusion of you know,
Speaker 2: the physical world. Basically like attachment, rather like in Buddhism,
Speaker 2: attachment and the suffering that it brings, being ensnared to
Speaker 2: the consciousness of being stuck in a physical body. That
Speaker 2: these thirteen repentances are like steps that you must take
Speaker 2: on your initiatic journey to raise your levels of consciousness
Speaker 2: to be able to transcend physical reality and no longer
Speaker 2: have to incarnate here. This is why he begins to
Speaker 2: explain to his disciples that this is all an initiatic allegory,
Speaker 2: and although it may have literally happened, the story of
Speaker 2: the fall of Sophia and all that, in a parallel,
Speaker 2: multi dimensional way of thinking, it's also the story of
Speaker 2: us falling into matter as a species of life on
Speaker 2: physical earth, and the light of Sophia in the essence
Speaker 2: of the Goddess as I call her, but the text
Speaker 2: calls her the Sofia or the pistol. Sophia is inside
Speaker 2: every one of us, and every single one of us
Speaker 2: are like a split, a fractured, you know, collective, you
Speaker 2: could say, you know, fractal of her consciousness falling into error,
Speaker 2: and that we come here and it's sort of like hell.
Speaker 2: It's a place where we were trapped in the sense
Speaker 2: that we looked towards a false light and we went
Speaker 2: towards it, and it ensnared us, so that the way
Speaker 2: to return is to look up to the highest light.
Speaker 2: And through the righteousness of the teachings of the Christ,
Speaker 2: we transcend matter through the revelation of the mysteries, which
Speaker 2: is embodying righteousness, which is embodying the teachings of Christ.
Speaker 2: And it goes way deeper than that. I was actually
Speaker 2: very shocked at how long this text was. It was
Speaker 2: very long. Most Gospels you can read them in like,
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen twenty minutes. I worked through, you know,
Speaker 2: hours of this and barely made it dead. Hours and
Speaker 2: hours and hours. I mean, it's very long. As far
Speaker 2: as texts that I usually discussed, like on a podcast episode,
Speaker 2: this was up there in one of the longest. And
Speaker 2: that's the shocking part, because I've read the entire New
Speaker 2: Testament multiple times and I had no clue like, really
Speaker 2: how long and how detailed.
Speaker 3: This text was.
Speaker 2: Very, very long, and very thorough and very descriptive of
Speaker 2: the light and of the mystery. So anyway, so that
Speaker 2: was kind of like my you know, interpretation. But you know,
Speaker 2: pistis is Greek for faith. Sophia is Greek for wisdom,
Speaker 2: and the allegory there is that she had faith, even
Speaker 2: trapped in the lowest, darkest realm, she had faith in
Speaker 2: the Highest God. And she prayed, and she supplanted, and
Speaker 2: she she repented of her error, of her false actions.
Speaker 2: She purified herself through faith and knowledge of you know,
Speaker 2: the highest God and the highest Light. And she said,
Speaker 2: and some of it, like I'm not going to read
Speaker 2: all of her repentances because it's quite long, but it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I made an error, God, but please don't
Speaker 2: condemn me to stay here trapped in the absence of light,
Speaker 2: because you know, in error, I thought it was you
Speaker 2: the one that I seek. Is stuff like that, like
Speaker 2: I understand the mistake of my ways, but I was
Speaker 2: seeking you, and I'm in faith to you, and you know,
Speaker 2: curse the darkness. And it's really profound, Like it's the
Speaker 2: allegory of us that even being trapped here in the
Speaker 2: physical world, which is basically hell where we come here
Speaker 2: to literally experience torment and suffering at every point in existence,
Speaker 2: we can be saved by the light because the light
Speaker 2: is a part of us. It's fundamentally a part of
Speaker 2: our soul, and that's the first two books. Everything that
Speaker 2: I just described that was basically the first two books
Speaker 2: was the story of the fall of Sophia, and then
Speaker 2: the third and the fourth books. After he's described the
Speaker 2: allegory of her, you know her descending to matter, he
Speaker 2: goes on to discuss like how to live, how to
Speaker 2: how to how to embody righteousness, how to basically receive
Speaker 2: the secret baptisms that establish the purifying of your soul
Speaker 2: through the twenty four mysteries, and he goes on to
Speaker 2: explain that the highest mystery, the first mystery, is God,
Speaker 2: so esoterically receiving the first mystery is like a baptism
Speaker 2: of the Holy Spirit. It's the baptism of light. And
Speaker 2: then there are descending lower level of mysteries which may
Speaker 2: purify parts of your soul all the way up to
Speaker 2: the highest mystery being knowledge and direct experience, with the
Speaker 2: ineffable one being the highest force of salvation throughout all realities.
Speaker 2: That when you come into knowledge of an understanding of
Speaker 2: the highest God, that it liberates your soul, you achieve nosis.
Speaker 2: But you have to understand for a lot of people
Speaker 2: that that's very shocking knowledge most people don't question, and
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, when you go to church,
Speaker 2: when you go to temple, when you go to Mass,
Speaker 2: when you go to the mosque, the synagogue, whatever, most
Speaker 2: people don't question the system. They believe what they're told.
Speaker 2: So it is kind of a very shocking knowledge, this,
Speaker 2: this gnostic theology, although it is true. I believe it
Speaker 2: is very much true, and there's a reason that they
Speaker 2: suppressed it and literally killed the people that were, you know,
Speaker 2: teaching it. Jesus was himself was teaching it. I very much,
Speaker 2: very strongly believe and that it is the real version
Speaker 2: of Christ. It's shocking because it's counter to what we've
Speaker 2: been told by threat of death or exile or you know,
Speaker 2: punishment for two thousand years, which is there's you know,
Speaker 2: the whole doctrine there, the mainstream, you know, fundamental doctrine.
Speaker 2: So it goes on to explain, you know, the ascending
Speaker 2: levels of reality and then the lower levels, including our
Speaker 2: current level, which could be likened to hell or chaos,
Speaker 2: and then there are several kind of like offshoots of
Speaker 2: this world, and when you died, you leave the physical body,
Speaker 2: sort of like what we talked about in the Tibetan
Speaker 2: Book of the Dead, that you kind of visit some
Speaker 2: of these secondary dark lower realms to receive certain like
Speaker 2: karmic punishments, and if you don't, you know, pray for
Speaker 2: being to be saved by the ineffable One, to be
Speaker 2: liberated from punishment and to renounce the darkness. Basically that
Speaker 2: you reincarnate here and you have to go over and
Speaker 2: over and over and the world is even described this
Speaker 2: punishment realm in the afterlife is described as being a
Speaker 2: dragon encircling the realm of darkness eating its tail, which
Speaker 2: is like the oraboris. So what they're telling.
Speaker 3: You is.
Speaker 2: An allegory through mythological sinem the cycle of life, death
Speaker 2: and rebirth of the soul until you awaken to the
Speaker 2: true knowledge that you are God, that you have just
Speaker 2: like pissed a Sophia, just like the goddess. You have
Speaker 2: fallen into matter from the highest world, and the only
Speaker 2: way to transcend through the higher world is through the
Speaker 2: purification of your consciousness through baptism of the light, which
Speaker 2: is the highest mystery. You will stay trapped here for eternity,
Speaker 2: you know, until you eventually escaped that cycle by figuring
Speaker 2: it out by achieving nosis by switching on the power
Speaker 2: of your light. But then he goes on to say,
Speaker 2: and this was a great concern to me, and it
Speaker 2: kind of made my eyes go wide, and I said, damn.
Speaker 2: And Enny, Jenny was doing work. He's on the laptop
Speaker 2: beside me today and I was reading this and I
Speaker 2: read this part and I said.
Speaker 3: Damne, And he's like, what what? What?
Speaker 2: I was just like this text profound.
Speaker 3: It just kind of got me.
Speaker 2: But it's either in the third or the fourth book
Speaker 2: of the Pisto Sophia that Jesus speaks about. But even
Speaker 2: though you eternally reincarnate until you eventually escape the illusion
Speaker 2: by awakening to the light, the light of lights, the
Speaker 2: first light, the first mystery, Right, you know, there's going
Speaker 2: to come a time where the perfect number of purified
Speaker 2: souls returned to the light, where the gates will become closed,
Speaker 2: and then the physical world of matter will be purified
Speaker 2: through fire. So I found that very interesting, very very
Speaker 2: very interesting. And it makes me think of, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, soul or event or something, who knows. And
Speaker 2: some interpretations of that say that it's an urging to
Speaker 2: you know, the time is now, The time is always Now,
Speaker 2: there's no time like the present, like you need to
Speaker 2: work on it now. You need to begin purifying your
Speaker 2: soul now. The way to it's basically like this. You
Speaker 2: purify your vessel, your material matter, your your your body
Speaker 2: right by renouncing the desires that this that keep you
Speaker 2: trapped in a animalistic, fleshly state of consciousness. Through the
Speaker 2: baptism of the light. So you do things like you
Speaker 2: purge the uh the the carnal desires by by becoming
Speaker 2: more and more righteous. I don't think it's about being perfect,
Speaker 2: I think I I don't think it's about that at all.
Speaker 2: I think it's about having the the the desire in
Speaker 2: your heart to aspire to UH more and more every day,
Speaker 2: to be a vessel for the light. It's about aspiration, right,
Speaker 2: You're purifying the desire of your old self that is carnal,
Speaker 2: that is just human. You're not just human, you are divine.
Speaker 2: You know, this is what the Cross means.
Speaker 3: Right, So.
Speaker 2: If you let your lower nature rule you, you you
Speaker 2: are trapped without light. You're you're that you're that very
Speaker 2: dim spark that has no power. And the more that
Speaker 2: you begin to go through these repentances or purifications of
Speaker 2: your being. You are brightening that light and allowing the
Speaker 2: first Mystery God to shine through you incarnate in the
Speaker 2: physical world. The more you purify yourself and your consciousness,
Speaker 2: the light of God literally shines through you as a
Speaker 2: being and manifests into physical reality, which can make a
Speaker 2: lot of magic happen here. The more of us who
Speaker 2: are awake and who are filled with this light of lights, uh,
Speaker 2: we can. We can change things here. We can do
Speaker 2: a lot of good in this place.
Speaker 3: We can.
Speaker 2: The more of a shining the light of that you know,
Speaker 2: highest God into this world, the more it helps those
Speaker 2: who are trapped in the darkness. Right. But you know,
Speaker 2: I found it a very interesting text, and I was
Speaker 2: mind blown at how detailed it was. I think I
Speaker 2: pretty much hit all the key elements of it.
Speaker 3: But you know, the main thing is.
Speaker 2: Purify your consciousness, awakening through knowledge of the light. It
Speaker 2: says the words light and mystery literally hundreds, if not
Speaker 2: thousands of times. When it describes God, it says, the
Speaker 2: ineffable one, the light of lights, the first and the
Speaker 2: last mystery, and the highest Baptism is the baptism of
Speaker 2: this mystery. By inviting the presence of this well, I
Speaker 2: say this God, there is no this God. There's one God.
Speaker 2: And then in the different levels of reality there are
Speaker 2: expressions of beings that have their own agendas, some of
Speaker 2: them good, some of them not good. But there's only
Speaker 2: one God. There's one true God. Akanatan was really keen
Speaker 2: on this, which is why he changed the Egyptian system
Speaker 2: to be monotheistic as we understand it today. He was
Speaker 2: really an initiative of the mystery schools, and he was
Speaker 2: so in love with it and had this secret understanding
Speaker 2: of God that that's why he united Egypt under this knowledge,
Speaker 2: you know, attune the sun autumn right. So there is
Speaker 2: one God right, and so we have to become a
Speaker 2: reflection of that want God, which he goes on to
Speaker 2: describe is righteousness. Righteousness through living, through embodying truth and righteousness.
Speaker 2: You are you know, inviting in basically the first Mystery,
Speaker 2: the baptism of this mystery.
Speaker 3: So it's about.
Speaker 2: Purifying your consciousness, about aspiring to be like Christ. And
Speaker 2: he goes on to say that once you achieve the
Speaker 2: baptism of this first Mystery, that you become one with
Speaker 2: the light of lights that you eventually after ascending through
Speaker 2: all the different levels of reality. You'll be with him
Speaker 2: in the Treasury of Light, which is that heavenly light
Speaker 2: realm that's above all the other emanated realms, where Jesus
Speaker 2: resides and rules from as king that eventually we will
Speaker 2: rule with him, that we will be equal to him.
Speaker 2: He's not saying I'm above you. He's saying, come be
Speaker 2: with me. Do this, Purify yourself, you know, receive the
Speaker 2: baptism of the light, and we will all rule together
Speaker 2: in the Kingdom of Heaven. The Treasury of Light, as
Speaker 2: it's called in this text, it's a plane of reality. Basically,
Speaker 2: it's not like a treasury where they keep money. It's
Speaker 2: just how they described it. So you understood what it was.
Speaker 2: You can think of it as like the reality that
Speaker 2: all of the spiritual light that is comprised of God
Speaker 2: trickles down from this layer into all the other emanations,
Speaker 2: the highest place that we go when we achieve mastery
Speaker 2: through all of our lifetimes. So what do you think
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 3: That was wild? I wasn't really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also really interesting to me how the bones
Speaker 4: of what's going on here make it out without all
Speaker 4: of the cool stuff, Like I know, in Catholicism, you
Speaker 4: talk about God being the first and the last mystery.
Speaker 4: In Catholicism, there's this huge focus on the off in
Speaker 4: the America, he is the beginning and the end. And
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, yeah, that's you're talking about the same
Speaker 4: thing here and some of the earlier stuff that I
Speaker 4: can't remember verbatim, but I'm like, I'm sitting here and
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I've.
Speaker 3: Heard this before.
Speaker 4: I've heard this before, I've heard the support, but it's
Speaker 4: kind of what this whole show is about. It's like
Speaker 4: everybody's talking about the same thing. Yeah, you know, but
Speaker 4: this one in particular just super cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you actually dive into it and begin to
Speaker 2: investigate for yourself, it blows your mind. It's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's been there in front of the whole
Speaker 2: why have I not looked into this right?
Speaker 4: Well, especially on you know, the whole Divine Feminine track, this.
Speaker 2: Is just well, dude, I mean, this is so profound
Speaker 2: because you know, it's all about the Goddess. Like, dude,
Speaker 2: I can't even describe how important knowledge this is being
Speaker 2: the modern day. Literally, like you know, we had Fatima
Speaker 2: one hundred plus years ago, and we're the next event
Speaker 2: the Bledsoe family. We are literally the modern day apparition
Speaker 2: of the Goddess. And it's like, well, how does this
Speaker 2: fit into you know Jesus, Well, this is how he
Speaker 2: was talking about her, He was with her.
Speaker 3: They are one.
Speaker 2: There are other texts where when the Goddess appears or no, no,
Speaker 2: it wasn't text. It was an apparition in history. I
Speaker 2: think it was that I say, this revelation that we
Speaker 2: talked about on the Goddess episode, it was either that
Speaker 2: one or a different one where she appeared to real
Speaker 2: people about a thousand years ago and they asked about
Speaker 2: Christ and she said, he's like my brother. He's like
Speaker 2: my spiritual brother. We were in harmony together, we worked together,
Speaker 2: so there was always a connection there that I was
Speaker 2: and that I knew was there that I wanted to find,
Speaker 2: you know, because the Lady indicated to my dad. He
Speaker 2: talked about this on the Sean Ryan Show. He talked
Speaker 2: about this recently on the Wi File Show, which was
Speaker 2: really good. It was one of his best he's ever done.
Speaker 2: It's being very well received. It just hit like a
Speaker 2: million plus views. I'm very happy with it. I love
Speaker 2: the Wi files. They are great guys. I don't know Aj,
Speaker 2: but I know his brother Gino, lovely human being, and
Speaker 2: I just I love both of those guys. But you know,
Speaker 2: he talked about this the other day on the WI
Speaker 2: Files where he said, you know that the lady indicated
Speaker 2: to him that there were two timelines. This is something
Speaker 2: that we've intentionally tried not to talk about because we've
Speaker 2: never wanted to put out doom. I try not to
Speaker 2: talk about future bad scenarios. I've really tried to avoid
Speaker 2: that as far as the public is concerned, right, because
Speaker 2: we don't we don't want to scare people. But she
Speaker 2: pretty much said there's two timelines. And I've hinted at
Speaker 2: this that you know, either we don't make the right
Speaker 2: choices and it gets so bad that the end of
Speaker 2: the world comes and we have to literally be saved. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, like the Bible says and Jesus returns, like
Speaker 2: like in the Book of Revelation. She says, as it
Speaker 2: is as it is written, so shall it be it
Speaker 2: will play play out down to the last letter, or uh,
Speaker 2: we make the right choice as as a human race,
Speaker 2: and we don't. We don't have to get down to
Speaker 2: that because we we decide of our own free will
Speaker 2: to awaken from our heart and we manifest a better
Speaker 2: world together without the whole cataclysm. Uh So, these two
Speaker 2: timelines are possible. And I don't even remember why I
Speaker 2: got into this, but she she talked about Jesus in
Speaker 2: that way, the Book of Revelation. She said, scripture. She's
Speaker 2: given Dad scripture. The lady wasn't like, you know, you
Speaker 2: must worship Jesus Christ. She's got so a lot of
Speaker 2: Christians online. If you look at our comments, you know,
Speaker 2: when we post anything, they're like, you don't test the
Speaker 2: spirits with God, you don't test the spirit Jesus. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we do. We do all the time. We pray, you know,
Speaker 2: we believe in, you know, the power of the message
Speaker 2: of Christ. But we're not like, you know, necessarily pushing
Speaker 2: the fundamental Christian doctrine on people, because I believe there's
Speaker 2: a lot of holes in it and it was used
Speaker 2: as a tool to enslave our minds by the powers
Speaker 2: to be, and they took out a lot of this
Speaker 2: stuff that we're discussing here and we're in search of.
Speaker 2: But I always I always felt like, even though I
Speaker 2: implicitly knew that connection between the Lady and Christ. I
Speaker 2: had to find it. I had to put the puzzle
Speaker 2: together from the actual perspective of the ancient texts so
Speaker 2: that I could be more well equipped to help people
Speaker 2: understand the connection. So reading this, you know, stuff like
Speaker 2: the Pisto Sophia, it's like, oh my god, it was
Speaker 2: right there in front of me the whole time, right,
Speaker 2: and I've never read this until now.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about.
Speaker 4: Beware of the false Light.
Speaker 3: This is the story exactly.
Speaker 4: This is this story.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like coming into the material world and you would
Speaker 4: think that if this were the false light, that it
Speaker 4: would be getting worse, you know, But instead we're looking
Speaker 4: up at what we can be an aspire to be,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: just wild. Thanks for taking the time on this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But you know what else too, is like people are
Speaker 2: so trapped in this notion of like what God do
Speaker 2: you worship? Do you worship Jesus? When you speak to
Speaker 2: spirits to use the name of Jesus? Well yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: but that's not you know, that's not really important. People
Speaker 2: are like, what's God's name? Do you believe in? You
Speaker 2: always do you believe in all the No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I believe in God. I believe in the truth that
Speaker 2: there is one being that created everything, and that it
Speaker 2: is above name, and it is above form, and it
Speaker 2: is above concept. It's above comprehension. That to be a
Speaker 2: human and a physical body, you cannot even understand it
Speaker 2: unless you have a mind altering personal, direct experience with it,
Speaker 2: some sort of revelatory, profound experience that completely radically alters
Speaker 2: your consciousness gnosis, something like leaving the body, something like
Speaker 2: seeing an angelic being of light, something, you know, some
Speaker 2: sort of magical altering of the rules of physical reality
Speaker 2: to where you are left so mind blown and shocked
Speaker 2: that you know that there is something magical. I don't
Speaker 2: care about trying to you know, I don't believe there
Speaker 2: is a name of God.
Speaker 3: I believe that our.
Speaker 2: Limited, stupid human minds like to label things, and we
Speaker 2: like to confine things, and we need names because we're
Speaker 2: not fully telepathic. We have to identify things with symbols,
Speaker 2: with pictures, with words. But in the realms of spirit,
Speaker 2: you know, they they don't, they don't even require all
Speaker 2: that that they are completely They communicate through thought that
Speaker 2: they are complete spirit, and they know, you know, the
Speaker 2: intentions of of everything, and you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: that to sound contrived, But the point I'm trying to
Speaker 2: make is I don't believe that God even has a name.
Speaker 3: I believe that God.
Speaker 2: Transcends name and transcends everything. It's completely ineffable, even the
Speaker 2: highest beings that emanate from Him, even the spiritual, you know,
Speaker 2: God's basically they don't understand what God is.
Speaker 3: They worship it.
Speaker 2: And it talks about that too. In the Pistos Sophia
Speaker 2: in the very beginning, when Jesus is ascending the realms
Speaker 2: in his light body. Every time he gets to a
Speaker 2: new realm and he's like face to face with the gatekeepers,
Speaker 2: they all say something like, how did the light of
Speaker 2: the Highest God slip into our numbers without us knowing?
Speaker 2: And they tremble and they're in fear, and they're like,
Speaker 2: how did the Lord of all show up in our
Speaker 2: midst unannounced and sneak through our presence without us being
Speaker 2: alert to this?
Speaker 3: How powerful a being is this? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like even the Arkhan forces that try to trap us
Speaker 2: here in our physical reality, they bow to this light
Speaker 2: in a sense that They know that it is transcendent
Speaker 2: to their form, and they seek to emulate it with
Speaker 2: a false light to trap people. And then when they
Speaker 2: trap you, when they dim your light, they feed on you.
Speaker 2: They feast on your light. It feeds them so that
Speaker 2: they can continue to project their false light. So you know,
Speaker 2: that's what happens. When we're here in the physical world.
Speaker 2: There are psychic parasites that are feeding on our light,
Speaker 2: on our soul. That's why they want to push degenerate
Speaker 2: crap on us. And they want to make us atheistic
Speaker 2: and nihilistic and sad and fearful and hate our neighbor.
Speaker 2: They want us so separate and so alone and confused
Speaker 2: that we're stuck here in a realm of darkness and
Speaker 2: we're tormented and we're suffering, and they don't want us
Speaker 2: to be connected to the light that is higher than them.
Speaker 2: And that is so obvious. It's so obvious. The powers
Speaker 2: that rule this world are darkness. It's satanic, it's evil.
Speaker 2: It wants you trapped here. And the way that it
Speaker 2: does this is through the use of perception, through neuro
Speaker 2: linguistic programming, through of course, ritual But you know the
Speaker 2: way that they screw events that play out in front
Speaker 2: of the masses. It's like one great drama.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: And on the little level, we're doing things like paying
Speaker 2: taxes and paying for insurance and going to work. You know,
Speaker 2: they trendscend all of that. They pass those things to
Speaker 2: even farm us for our resources, you know. And I
Speaker 2: don't want to go on any further about the dark stuff,
Speaker 2: but I think it speaks for itself with the Epstein
Speaker 2: files being released. But there is a dark system in
Speaker 2: place here that has been enslaving us and trapping us.
Speaker 2: And you know, this world is although there is so
Speaker 2: much good in it and goodness and light does exist here,
Speaker 2: it is a place of suffering. It is a place
Speaker 2: where we come to suffer. And you have, you know,
Speaker 2: to make a choice to choose to embody the light
Speaker 2: or allow yourself to be trapped by the darkness.
Speaker 3: So you have to work on yourself.
Speaker 2: You have to have rigorous self assessment, like the Sofia
Speaker 2: in this text, you know, the thirteen pentanceis you have
Speaker 2: to like, uh, you know, repent doesn't just mean oh
Speaker 2: I'm sorry forgive me. Repent means I admit that I
Speaker 2: was wrong and I move on from this action, and
Speaker 2: I don't do it again. You have to you have
Speaker 2: to strive to be better, you know, you have to change,
Speaker 2: You have to you have to purify yourself. You have
Speaker 2: to reject the system of darkness. So I can just
Speaker 2: go in circles and circles. So I think that's a
Speaker 2: good place to wrap it. But you know, I got
Speaker 2: excited to read about you know, uh, you know some
Speaker 2: of the lower mysteries. You know, baptism by water, baptism
Speaker 2: by fire, sacred riots that descend from the times of Egypt,
Speaker 2: you know that have all these practices. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but the highest baptism is of the light. It's about
Speaker 2: you know, bringing the light, and when you receive this
Speaker 2: baptism that it purifies aspects of your lower nature that
Speaker 2: allow your consciousness to be reformed, uh, and become a
Speaker 2: vessel for the light of lights. So we just have
Speaker 2: to understand that these are real forces that exist in
Speaker 2: the universe. It's not theoretical, it's not hypothetical. These are
Speaker 2: real forces that are a lot more ancient and powerful
Speaker 2: and knowledgeable and intelligent than we are. So we just
Speaker 2: have to be careful what forces we deal with and
Speaker 2: what forces we invite through our choices. Our choices matter,
Speaker 2: all right. Love you guys, and I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 2: this one, and you know we'll see you next week.
Speaker 3: Bye, my lovely people.
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