Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Lands,
Speaker 2: where I'm your host Katie And just in case anybody
Speaker 2: else didn't know, I'm technically a blonde. Hi, Klay, how
Speaker 2: are you doing today?
Speaker 1: So context context, Hi, I'm here too. Uh. Katie and
Speaker 1: I were talking about uh because Mara had a little
Speaker 1: cameo before recording and I was like, wow, her hair
Speaker 1: is getting a lot brighter or is that just the sunlight.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, it's sunlight, but it's technically this color.
Speaker 1: It's our color. I was like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you don't have that color hair. Katie like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know this about your hair, but that's
Speaker 1: not the color. And she's like no, no, no, Clay,
Speaker 1: you don't know because look at this. And she sends
Speaker 1: me all of these photos or just one, and then
Speaker 1: I had to go creep on our Instagram for a
Speaker 1: second and my brain melted for a second. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this twilight zone that I'm seeing?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Katie is a natural blonde and is in
Speaker 1: disguise as a brunette. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I needed a drastic hair change in college and I
Speaker 2: never went back.
Speaker 1: So, see, it's been a long time since I've had
Speaker 1: a well, I say that, I am pretty sure sometime
Speaker 1: right before or right after we found out that Abby
Speaker 1: was pregnant. I don't know if you remember this, I
Speaker 1: shaved my head.
Speaker 2: Yep, I do remember that because you got on the
Speaker 2: podcast that I was like, dude, are you okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So it's been it's been a minute since
Speaker 1: I've had a dramatic hair change. I have since thought about, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, it is hot here in Texas. It's pretty disgusting,
Speaker 1: and although I would love to get my long, luscious
Speaker 1: hair back, I can't do this heat. I need I
Speaker 1: need to do something, So I think I'm I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna very soon get a clean cut here and
Speaker 1: maybe just a trim. But again, it's hot, so it's
Speaker 1: stay hydrated, Stay very hydrated. That is.
Speaker 2: Originally we were going to be talking about a comic,
Speaker 2: but we both struggled reading the comic because miscommunication. So
Speaker 2: we're going to be talking strictly D twenty three today,
Speaker 2: which we did not think we were going to have
Speaker 2: a lot to talk about. But guys, that.
Speaker 1: Totally okay, Okay, now that makes more sense. Because it's
Speaker 1: all coming back to me. Now. I'm over here making
Speaker 1: the recording room and I'm like, oh, only D twenty
Speaker 1: three stuff. It's gonna be a short podcast. Now that
Speaker 1: you say it, I'm like, oh, wait a second. That's
Speaker 1: why the comic was supposed to be today, because I
Speaker 1: was to be small news and then the review and
Speaker 1: then that was it. So yeah, Katie's over here trying
Speaker 1: to save my ass and I'm just gonna say it
Speaker 1: out right. I totally forgot, guys, and I totally forgot it.
Speaker 1: It was such Today was chaotic. Today was totally chaotic.
Speaker 1: But we're here to talk D twenty three and Star
Speaker 1: Wars guys. Like Katie said, we weren't expecting much. I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot more came out that we think.
Speaker 2: We both forgot about Ahsoka season two when we were
Speaker 2: talking D twenty three predictions. Yeah, we never talked to
Speaker 2: Soca season two.
Speaker 1: At all, which is wild because Ahsoka season two has
Speaker 1: been something that we have both have been very excited about,
Speaker 1: been anticipating for quite some time because.
Speaker 2: Because it's been three years.
Speaker 1: It has been three years, and that's been I was
Speaker 1: gonna say that has been the very big talking point
Speaker 1: from us is Okay, it's three years. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Where's the news? How are we going to get through this?
Speaker 1: And when are we finally going to see it? We
Speaker 1: got that date. By the way, it was leaked at
Speaker 1: d twenty three. It wasn't even announced that. No, do
Speaker 1: you know what is the poster? The poster? Somebody took
Speaker 1: a picture of the poster and people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, it has the date on the poster, and
Speaker 1: then people started to say, oh, official announcement.
Speaker 2: That's why when I was making the show notes, I
Speaker 2: couldn't actually find the poster because the poster didn't exist
Speaker 2: Saturday morning when I was making the show notes.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we have a confirmation date for that. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about that soon. But we do have
Speaker 1: some actual show notes. Katie, just like she said, was
Speaker 1: a nice enough to actually make some show notes for
Speaker 1: us today. If you guys did not see the thumbnail.
Speaker 1: Here we have Ahsoka and then we have a little
Speaker 1: bit about Starfighter. Now, there was a video leaked. I
Speaker 1: watched it. I'm not going to show it here, and
Speaker 1: I shared it with Katie. We're not going to show
Speaker 1: it here, but we are going to discuss, and I
Speaker 1: will actually be able to show you something that of discussion.
Speaker 1: One of the big things about this movie is a
Speaker 1: big talking point is the jacket that Ryan Gosling is
Speaker 1: gonna be wearing as his character. The only reason why
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to show you that is for
Speaker 1: the fact that in Jedi Survivor somebody moded the jacket
Speaker 1: onto uh Onto Calkestis, and so I have a snapshot
Speaker 1: of the mod. Shana says, Hi, Hello everybody.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: I see that we have quite a few people here
Speaker 1: in the chat today or at least viewing us. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being live with us today. But
Speaker 1: today we're going to start off with our conversation with
Speaker 1: Star Wars Starfighter.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're gonna start with big boos and we're gonna
Speaker 2: end with big news. So we've got some stuff in
Speaker 2: the middle. Makes a nice svandwich.
Speaker 1: Yes. So first thing that we have here the notes
Speaker 1: is the reveal of the logo. The logo was very specific,
Speaker 1: I feel like in what will be a huge marketing
Speaker 1: push for Star Wars Starfighter. And the reason why I
Speaker 1: say that is I'm actually going.
Speaker 2: To Are you gonna share it or am I gonna
Speaker 2: share it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna grab it right now. We have an
Speaker 1: official logo.
Speaker 2: It's very old school Star Wars. It fits the vibe
Speaker 2: of the fiftieth anniversary of Star Wars while also kind
Speaker 2: of drawing your eye to the movie title itself because
Speaker 2: the movie title Starfighter is in the middle of the
Speaker 2: old school logo star Wars, so makes makes for cool. Look,
Speaker 2: that's the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's sharing it like that. Here,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, I'll share it this way here,
Speaker 1: how about this? Uh, I don't know why it shared it.
Speaker 2: Freaking look said that, I'm gonna share the plot synopsis.
Speaker 2: It says, when a cynical rogue is confronted by his
Speaker 2: mysterious pass, he has hurled into a dangerous adventure across
Speaker 2: the galaxy that puts him on a crash course with destiny.
Speaker 1: So this is very old school. And I told you
Speaker 1: when we were texting about it, I said, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is very intentional and that it's going to
Speaker 1: be basically like, hey, hit you right in the fields
Speaker 1: for that nostalgia. Yeah, and I don't know how I
Speaker 1: feel about the move overall. I like the logo, but
Speaker 1: the intention for the logo. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: necessarily misleading, because I have no idea what this movie
Speaker 1: is about. Yeah, but a lot of people have already
Speaker 1: like cause you're gonna have those people that are like
Speaker 1: super excited about this, and there's gonna be the people
Speaker 1: that already hate it because it's not exactly what they
Speaker 1: were expecting for the next story to be told in
Speaker 1: the Star Wars universe. Right, That's just how things are
Speaker 1: with fandoms unfortunately, especially with Star Wars in particular. And
Speaker 1: here I like it. I like the logo. I just
Speaker 1: hope that it doesn't want to be like, hey, look
Speaker 1: at this new fancy thing that feels old and then
Speaker 1: be completely you know, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Don't want to mislead fans. Yeah, so I hope that
Speaker 2: the first trailer obviously you said like you said, it leaked,
Speaker 2: we have footage description that we're going to discuss and
Speaker 2: gives Moto's reaction to it, because I trust Gizmoto's reaction
Speaker 2: for what it looked like obviously leaked grainy footage doesn't
Speaker 2: match the intent and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hopeful for the best, but I really hope
Speaker 2: we're not misleading people with the logo. And I know
Speaker 2: also we like most people probably aren't gonna look at
Speaker 2: the logo. Very few people are gonna go, this is
Speaker 2: what's gonna send me to the movie. This is what's
Speaker 2: not gonna send me to the movie. It's just a
Speaker 2: talking point really that we have because it released and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you think about the plot synopsis of this?
Speaker 1: So the plot synopsis it's still very vague.
Speaker 2: This did release in an official Star Wars dot com.
Speaker 1: Yes, we had a small discussion about it. You know.
Speaker 1: The one thing that is always like the thing that
Speaker 1: people are worried about, quote unquote is worried about is
Speaker 1: when people will hear mysterious past, people immediately think of,
Speaker 1: oh crap, we're gonna get another Order sixty six survivor.
Speaker 1: We had our discussion that Order sixty six wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 1: be on the table.
Speaker 2: Gossling as a human is too young for to be
Speaker 2: an Order sixty six survivor, because guys, when you're looking
Speaker 2: at it, you want to think that we're sitting forty
Speaker 2: a b y basically, because this is supposed to be
Speaker 2: five years after the Rise of Skywalker. Rise of Skywalker
Speaker 2: was thirty five ab y, so thirty five plus five
Speaker 2: forty a b y. Then to get to Order sixty six,
Speaker 2: you have to go nineteen years backwards to get to
Speaker 2: nineteen bby, which is where Revenge of This takes place.
Speaker 2: That puts that would put Kate Aubron at sixty nine
Speaker 2: years old. And guys, I know Hollywood actors, they look
Speaker 2: good for much longer than they used to. But still,
Speaker 2: Ryan Goss, this character evokes forty five, fifty fifty five ish,
Speaker 2: not seventy years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe because that would put.
Speaker 2: Him, That would put him at a baby, That would
Speaker 2: put him being born at Revenge of the Sith, which
Speaker 2: we know for a fact that Jedi took people or
Speaker 2: took kids, not babies from their parents, so he would
Speaker 2: have been two three years old. Yeah, when he was
Speaker 2: taken again. That puts him later. Again does not make sense.
Speaker 2: And I hear you could go, oh, well, this is fantasy,
Speaker 2: this is science fiction. He could be but like, that
Speaker 2: doesn't line up because.
Speaker 1: There was also with I talked about this in uh
Speaker 1: the Geek First discord, which I highly recommend you guys joined,
Speaker 1: because that is where all of our conversations go. Usually
Speaker 1: after this, they shared this with The Geek First Guys,
Speaker 1: and Taylor had made the suggestion of, oh, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not entirely sure that is necessarily a deal breaker because
Speaker 1: of Jude Law's character in the Skeleton Crew show. Yep,
Speaker 1: that minor spoilers. By the way, minor spoilers for Skeleton Crew.
Speaker 1: We know that Jude Law's character was a forced user.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that was confirmed.
Speaker 2: We don't exactly know that he's ordered sixty six. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's an assumption, but also Jude Law's character makes us
Speaker 2: a little more sense. A the dude is balving, so
Speaker 2: you can get away with a little more age in
Speaker 2: that range. Just because of the way people think about it.
Speaker 2: B Mandovers is eleven aby, not forty ABY, so you're
Speaker 2: looking at two different time periods there. It just doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense. The other argument that I have is there
Speaker 2: is precedent for humans aging appropriately according to Earth timelines
Speaker 2: because of Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker. You can't tell
Speaker 2: me if they said, oh, Luke Skywalker is sixty five
Speaker 2: years old in this, so we're gonna make him look
Speaker 2: like Brian Gossling's character, that they wouldn't have at least tried.
Speaker 1: Do you do that? Yeah, exactly. And you know, another
Speaker 1: thing is, well, let's let's go ahead and and move
Speaker 1: on real quick. So that with the description I had said, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, it could mean this. The other theory that
Speaker 1: I've seen online is, well, if he is not directly
Speaker 1: attached to the Jedi Ordity sixty six, possibly because like
Speaker 1: a lot of people are immediately thinking, well, because he's
Speaker 1: the main character, he has to be a Jedi, or
Speaker 1: he has to be a Force user, or he has
Speaker 1: to be blah blah blah, and so people are like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if it's not him directly, maybe he had a master
Speaker 1: somebody who was an Order sixty six survivor, and they
Speaker 1: got in trouble, and so they've been in hiding for
Speaker 1: so long, and now that is why he is now
Speaker 1: this like scoundrel, is because he changed his identity type
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 2: But also, guys, the mysterious past could also be why
Speaker 2: he picks up this kid in the middle of the galaxy,
Speaker 2: because his mysterious past could be that he's a deadbeat
Speaker 2: and his kid comes to call, and so now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we have to figure out who's the mom,
Speaker 2: and why is this kid all of a sudden shown up?
Speaker 2: Very classic tropy.
Speaker 1: I never really thought about that, Like it's it's basically like, hey,
Speaker 1: his mysterious past is the fact that he's a baby
Speaker 1: daddy to a kid Jedi m that would be probably.
Speaker 2: Amy adams character is the mom. I think we all
Speaker 2: that Amy Adam's character is the moms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has that been confirmed?
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been confirmed.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. Okay, yeah, so so I think it's
Speaker 1: safe to say that's probably what it is. But who knows.
Speaker 1: Who knows. They may pull a fast one on us.
Speaker 1: To be completely honest, But outside of the synopsis, the
Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling's character is going to be named Caid Caid Auburn.
Speaker 1: Now you said you typed it here with a K?
Speaker 1: Is it with a K? Or is it with a C?
Speaker 2: It's with a K?
Speaker 1: Huh Okay, it looks weird. Now you gonna lie it?
Speaker 1: Does it? It's Star Wars, so you know it is
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah. The footage description by Gizmoto says
Speaker 1: a young kid that being Flynn Gray's, starts slowly pulling
Speaker 1: off a Starfighter. He slowly rubs his hand on it
Speaker 1: like an old car. Cad comes in and tells him
Speaker 1: not to touch it. The kid asked what kind of
Speaker 1: starfighter it is, and Kate tells him it's some decommissioned
Speaker 1: Imperial ship, the fastest ship in the galaxy. Never heard
Speaker 1: of it. The kid says, there's a reason for that,
Speaker 1: then says Kate. It then cuts to a long montage.
Speaker 1: We see someone riding a speeder bike over a swamp.
Speaker 1: Kid stands with his back to us, his leather jacket,
Speaker 1: holding what looks like a massive gun or tool, and
Speaker 1: he's working on a ship really quickly. I'm going to
Speaker 1: share this because, like I said, this was modded into
Speaker 1: a Jedi Survivor, and I.
Speaker 2: Do believe that they actually released a picture of the jacket.
Speaker 1: Did they release a picture of it? I couldn't find
Speaker 1: that one. But whoever modeed this did a very good job. Katie.
Speaker 1: Before we read the rest of it, I want to
Speaker 1: ask you again. I did ask you when I sent
Speaker 1: you the text. I said, hey, do you have any
Speaker 1: theories on Cade's jacket? Because looking at it specifically, when
Speaker 1: you look at it, you're just like, oh, it's a
Speaker 1: skull and crossbones. But when you look at it. It's
Speaker 1: the rebellion symbol upside down with two blasters. Katie, you said,
Speaker 1: I believe they are blasters. Somebody somebody said that it's
Speaker 1: the imperial or it's the it's the rebellion logo with
Speaker 1: two blasters. It might be two bones, but that's what
Speaker 1: everybody's reaction was on day one.
Speaker 2: Hang ontu Instagram. Well, the one you have in the
Speaker 2: background looks like blasters, but that's again the mod not
Speaker 2: necessarily the actual.
Speaker 1: What is your speculation on the symbolism or the reasoning
Speaker 1: behind Caide making this his thing. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the fan poster. They released a fan
Speaker 2: poster with it.
Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: So it is blasters according to fan poster. I don't
Speaker 2: think they would have released the fan poster if it
Speaker 2: wasn't accurate, but I kind of dig it. I definitely
Speaker 2: feel like the Mysterious Past leans more towards pirating because
Speaker 2: it's a very traditional pirate logo, like the skull and
Speaker 2: crossbones or in this case, logo and blasters. It could
Speaker 2: have been someone very not happy with the way the
Speaker 2: Rebellion turned into the Republic and kind of made a
Speaker 2: piracy gang to kind of fight that aspect. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 2: still leans more priority, especially because we know pirates were
Speaker 2: abundant in this timeframe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I am going down the same hyperspace lane
Speaker 1: as you. I feel that this is just piracy because
Speaker 1: I feel like with just Star Wars as a whole,
Speaker 1: but like also the resurgence of like the love of
Speaker 1: pirates for like the High Republic and getting into all this,
Speaker 1: I think just piracy is are really on the nose thing. Second,
Speaker 1: I was thinking the exact same thing when you said,
Speaker 1: like not very happy with what the rebellion did to
Speaker 1: turn to the New Republic. It kind of reminded me
Speaker 1: of the story in from a certain point of view
Speaker 1: that we had read of the guy who and like
Speaker 1: this is the really fun thing about from a certain
Speaker 1: point of view, but we learn about the guy who
Speaker 1: was on the speeder bike on Indoor yep, right about
Speaker 1: how he learned like that there was just a you know,
Speaker 1: he was caught in the crossfires of the war on
Speaker 1: his own planet, and they wanted nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the war, but because of what happened, he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: screw those rebels. They you know, destroyed our homes, whether
Speaker 1: it be on accident, or not, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: why he, you know, join the Empire. I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: quite possibly, and this is just my head canon, is
Speaker 1: my like out in the left field type of theory.
Speaker 1: Caid one of his parents was a part of the
Speaker 1: rebellion and they died due to the war, and so
Speaker 1: he's basically saying, f the Rebellion because they didn't do
Speaker 1: anything to help my family. They just destroyed my family.
Speaker 1: And so he's a So.
Speaker 2: You're thinking he's the leader of the pirates or was
Speaker 2: the leader at some point.
Speaker 1: Either was or he's just like this is basically just
Speaker 1: like instead of a pirate symbol, this is like a
Speaker 1: F the Empire shirt like.
Speaker 2: This this would be a Republic shirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a F the Report public jacket that
Speaker 1: he's wearing. Essentially not necessarily like he's bad, but he's
Speaker 1: just saying like, F the Republic. So that's that's what
Speaker 1: I think that there is just something that soured him
Speaker 1: on the Republic and so he went onto this mysterious path.
Speaker 1: So that's that's my head cannon head theory right now.
Speaker 1: Son along with that, gonna finish this, uh this description.
Speaker 1: He's working on the ship, he's watching uh. He we
Speaker 1: watched the pair ride a skiff over waves, which is
Speaker 1: of course the uh the first official look you know
Speaker 1: scene that we've been seeing so much of. More quick cuts,
Speaker 1: A droid flies a ship, a man jumps over a
Speaker 1: gap in some kind of high tech room. The camera
Speaker 1: then slowly follows the nose of a ship as the
Speaker 1: title Star Wars Starfighter comes up. It then cuts to
Speaker 1: a shot of Cade flying the ship with very pronounced
Speaker 1: white lines around it. He's going very very fast. The
Speaker 1: footage looked very classic Star Wars in all the right ways.
Speaker 1: Everything was dusty, it was gritty, there was some attitude
Speaker 1: to it, and this is still almost a year from release.
Speaker 1: That was part of that was the second part of
Speaker 1: Gizmoto's thoughts.
Speaker 2: That was just the thoughts that was on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so description thoughts. What were your immediate thoughts after
Speaker 1: watching the video that I shared with you.
Speaker 2: I really dig it. It definitely evokes that race car
Speaker 2: vibe that it's got, which is what I was kind
Speaker 2: of hoping for, was something really focused on the piloting
Speaker 2: aspects of the ship itself, and not necessarily because there's
Speaker 2: so much new launch to piloting a ship and so
Speaker 2: especially like leading in with like, oh, this is x
Speaker 2: y Z ship. It's the fastest in the galaxy. I've
Speaker 2: never heard of it. Oh, well, there's a reason for it.
Speaker 2: Like I love that setup right there, and I'm super
Speaker 2: excited to get to see more. Obviously, the description makes
Speaker 2: it sound pretty good the thoughts that Gizmoto has. I
Speaker 2: do trust Gizmoto's reps on this, so I do believe
Speaker 2: like their interpretation on it. I'm not going to make
Speaker 2: any more adjustments on what I think from a leaked
Speaker 2: video and a description. I need to see an actual trailer.
Speaker 1: What about you, I I from what I saw, I
Speaker 1: think it invokes Star Wars. I think, hey, this is
Speaker 1: a Star Wars movie. I don't think you can watch
Speaker 1: this and be like, oh, this is some random sci
Speaker 1: fi story. This beliefs Star Wars, and so I'm like, cool, Like,
Speaker 1: this is what we are asking for. We're asking for
Speaker 1: another Star Wars film. I need to see more. And
Speaker 1: the reason why is Katie, me and you have both
Speaker 1: said so far everything that we have seen from Sean
Speaker 1: is we love, we enjoy those movies, but it is.
Speaker 2: It's very disheartening to see the lack of diversity in
Speaker 2: the cast and go, and the lack of diversity in
Speaker 2: the background aspect of the cast and go. Okay, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be a movie that I'm gonna enjoy. We're
Speaker 2: gonna review it, but it will take a lot to
Speaker 2: really convince me that this was the right choice when
Speaker 2: there's so many opportunities that you could have given people,
Speaker 2: and very clearly some talented people that I feel like
Speaker 2: I missed out here.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel the exact same way. And one of
Speaker 1: the big key things that I will also be looking
Speaker 1: for is, yes, this bleed Star Wars. I also need
Speaker 1: a sense of genre going into this, because you can
Speaker 1: show me all the Star Wars stuff to convince me
Speaker 1: that it's a Star Wars film. But if you want
Speaker 1: to really surprise me as a moviegoer when I go
Speaker 1: and see that movie and see a genuine genre film
Speaker 1: within the Star Wars universe, that is also something that
Speaker 1: we have been talking about and wanting for so long.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be looking at that aspect as well.
Speaker 1: So I need to see more. This is just this
Speaker 1: is all the whip cream, This is the sprinkles, This
Speaker 1: is the stuff that people go ooh and ah about
Speaker 1: I need to see more, and that's pretty much it
Speaker 1: that we got from from Starfighter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a couple more things with interviews and stuff. Guys,
Speaker 2: there's just not enough information really to delve into those aspects,
Speaker 2: so we're just gonna kind of leave those on the table.
Speaker 2: But there is more out there. Star Wars news Net
Speaker 2: had an article that had the summary with the interview
Speaker 2: with Sean Levy, so if you guys are interested in that,
Speaker 2: go check it out. But the next two topics are
Speaker 2: both coming to Disney Plus on September second, which is
Speaker 2: a Tuesday. I believe it's two weeks from Yeah, two
Speaker 2: weeks from now. We have Mandalorian and Grogan, which is
Speaker 2: releasing that day. But then we also have Lego Star
Speaker 2: Wars The Mandalorian, which is the latest Lego special and
Speaker 2: it is also releasing on September second. But basically, it
Speaker 2: is kind of a play on the three seasons of
Speaker 2: Mandalorian and really boiling it down into something that's a
Speaker 2: little kid friendly and doing what a Lego special does
Speaker 2: best it does. I could not find an official casting
Speaker 2: list for this, but it does sound like Taikowa Titi
Speaker 2: is reply is reprising I g eleven in the special,
Speaker 2: and then Pelimoto's actress is also sounds the same.
Speaker 1: Okay, I did not have the time to watch the trailer.
Speaker 1: I'll be completely honest. I did not even know that
Speaker 1: a trailer came out. Shoes Again. I opened the show
Speaker 1: notes five minutes before the show when you were already
Speaker 1: in the room, so we just started talking. I had
Speaker 1: time a quick glance.
Speaker 2: Either way, I just like putting too much.
Speaker 1: Either way. These are two things that I will be
Speaker 1: watching with my family, especially with Mara the Amberlin. I
Speaker 1: was I was gonna say, you're probably gonna be watching
Speaker 1: it with mar No because we had talked about how
Speaker 1: Mandalorian Grogu was not a movie that we were comfortable
Speaker 1: with taking our kids to the theater versus watching it
Speaker 1: at home, and that's what I was gonna bring up.
Speaker 1: But with the Lego Star Wars, me and Amberlin have
Speaker 1: always sat down and watched these things. They're always fun.
Speaker 1: And although Amberlin has like watched The Mandalorian with me
Speaker 1: from time to time, it doesn't really keep her attention
Speaker 1: that I know a Lego movie will Yeah, so uh,
Speaker 1: that'll be really fun to watch with her. The next
Speaker 1: part of the news was something that came in very
Speaker 1: last minute, and at the end of D twenty three
Speaker 1: was that some news on Mall season two. We are
Speaker 1: it is confirmed that Mall season two is coming in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. We are getting it. No actual date,
Speaker 1: just twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: I would picture late twenty twenty seven with Ahsoka coming
Speaker 2: where it is, and then Starfighter gives the opportunity for
Speaker 2: a Star Wars celebration to showcase some things for it,
Speaker 2: while also leaving the promotion to a little bit later
Speaker 2: to allow Starfighter hatb Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was literally about to say, I do not think
Speaker 1: we would get it same time as in like Star
Speaker 1: Wars Day like May only because I feel like if
Speaker 1: that was the case, we would be a trailer right now.
Speaker 1: I do to make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing that might change my
Speaker 2: mind is if it appeared right after Ahsoka on like
Speaker 2: calendars and everything. Because what we've heard through the grapevine
Speaker 2: is that Marvel and Lucasfilm are both kind of going
Speaker 2: back to the drawing board with Disney Plus and we'll
Speaker 2: be cutting live shows down but then also bringing more
Speaker 2: animation forward. So could we potentially see a second animation
Speaker 2: show in the fall. If Mal appears in the spring.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, potentially, potentially, I think. But with this,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's very fun. We we talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, our opinions of mall season one.
Speaker 2: They weren't the best.
Speaker 1: They weren't the best, But I am always willing to
Speaker 1: give Star Wars a second chance. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: we have seen a bad show come into something we
Speaker 1: absolutely adore bad Batch being single handedly like the one
Speaker 1: eighty of Star Wars. And when I say the one
Speaker 1: eighty of Star Wars, I mean not like literally like
Speaker 1: not Star Wars, but I'm saying like, hey, we've seen
Speaker 1: it go from really bad cameo show to holy crap.
Speaker 1: This story is literally like a key plot to the
Speaker 1: Star Wars story moving forward. So yeah, we could see,
Speaker 1: you know, potentially Maul really step it up and you know,
Speaker 1: change the way we look at the story moving forward.
Speaker 2: For her, I'm gonna let you lead this next part
Speaker 2: because you saw more of the interviews than I did.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this one, I I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel about this because there are so many
Speaker 1: people that are like, oh he said this, so it
Speaker 1: really means this and I'm just like, guys.
Speaker 2: Welcome to book talk.
Speaker 1: Let's let's just ease our expectations. And then everybody's like, no,
Speaker 1: he said this, so it really means this. And if
Speaker 1: he means that, it really means this. It's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. People like words mean things. Words words
Speaker 1: mean things, and and that that is like the quote
Speaker 1: of my life now that I have a child is like, hey,
Speaker 1: context and words matter, right, And so this next topic, guys,
Speaker 1: I know, guys, it was literally my Halloween costume this year.
Speaker 1: I was literally the missing Hunt for Ben Solo sign
Speaker 1: billboard for Halloween, like I I am, I am wanting this.
Speaker 1: But this whole fiasco, guys, it started with Felony being
Speaker 1: in an interview at D twenty three. Somebody asked him
Speaker 1: what can you tell me about the hunt for Been Solo?
Speaker 1: And his direct quote was as he waved his hand
Speaker 1: with two fingers, and this is what has everybody freaking out,
Speaker 1: saying it's not here. You won't find it here. The
Speaker 1: force is not with us in that regard. I love
Speaker 1: the love you feel for it, which that last point
Speaker 1: part of the quote, like I see it as a
Speaker 1: genuine like, hey, you're really excited about that, and I
Speaker 1: see that like he's acknowledging the excitement for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a little part of me that's like, Dave, you
Speaker 1: are such an asshole, Like why would you say that,
Speaker 1: you know type of thing. So people are freaking out.
Speaker 1: People are freaking out because all he did was a
Speaker 1: hand gesture of this thing, right, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's jet I mind tricking. It's not here means that
Speaker 1: it is here him saying. And then people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: him saying it's not here really means that you're just
Speaker 1: not gonna see it at D twenty three, which means
Speaker 1: you're gonna see it at Star Wars celebration twenty twenty seven, guys, okay.
Speaker 1: And then what made matters even worse is that beIN
Speaker 1: solo himself, Adam was said to have had some sort
Speaker 1: of meeting with the Steven Soderberg, with of course, was
Speaker 1: going to be the director of the Hunt for Pinsula,
Speaker 1: and so with that plus this, people's heads were melting
Speaker 1: and they're like, Oh, we're gonna get an announcement.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 1: And people were taking literally Adam Driver's announced or it
Speaker 1: wasn't even an announcement video. It was a basically like
Speaker 1: saying a few words because he was casted in the
Speaker 1: X Men movie that's coming in twenty twenty eight. He
Speaker 1: was casted as mister Sinister, as a villain, and he's
Speaker 1: in this giant room. It looks like a hangar of
Speaker 1: some like a hangar bay of some sort, and he
Speaker 1: has a black shirt and like some sort of like
Speaker 1: cargo pants. Now, I have not seen Adam Driver in
Speaker 1: quite some time, but in that video his hair is
Speaker 1: slicked back the way it normally is and it gave
Speaker 1: off small ponytail vibes. But I couldn't see the ponytail
Speaker 1: in that video. There was literally a photo, a very
Speaker 1: blurry photo, of him sitting at the table of some
Speaker 1: sort of restaurant where he was going to be meeting
Speaker 1: this director, and he had a hat on and people
Speaker 1: were like, look, it's the exact same pants, it's the
Speaker 1: exact same shirt. But his hair did not match the
Speaker 1: vibe that it was giving in the hangars. So I'm
Speaker 1: thinking these are completely different days, and everybody's like, this
Speaker 1: is the exact same day. Oh my god, likes he's
Speaker 1: talking leverage of hey, we got this, so because we
Speaker 1: got this, like people were saying, oh, because he's in
Speaker 1: the X Men movie, that one hundred percent means that
Speaker 1: he's going to be in a new Star Wars movie.
Speaker 1: Because people are saying, oh, he leveraged, Hey, if you
Speaker 1: want me in this x Men movie, you have to
Speaker 1: give me Star Wars.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, guys, he doesn't care that much about
Speaker 2: Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Adam Driver does not have the money or the pool
Speaker 1: to be negotiating full ass movies for one role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not going to happen. As much as I would love
Speaker 1: for it to happen, It's just not working like that.
Speaker 2: No, it's that.
Speaker 1: So to double down on this, there was an individual
Speaker 1: and I shared this with you as well, this person
Speaker 1: on Twitter by then handle uh Comrade Rodrigo said, here's
Speaker 1: my exclusive and the reason why I believe this person
Speaker 1: is he has been in the ends with a lot
Speaker 1: of the other Scoopers on Twitter and a lot of
Speaker 1: them are following him. So that tells me, Okay, this
Speaker 1: person is recontable in some form or fashion, he says.
Speaker 1: And I've already done extensive reporting on Ben Solo and
Speaker 1: knew about it months before Driver discussed it publicly. Uh.
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, anyway, this has nothing, absolutely nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Hunt for Ben Sola, and that is of
Speaker 1: course the meeting that he had Uh yeah with uh Soderbergh. Right,
Speaker 1: is that how you I think it's Soderberg. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: there's somebody within the business saying, hey, this is not
Speaker 1: Hunt for Ben Solo, which also means hey, if they're
Speaker 1: still working together, I'm not gonna say this is never
Speaker 1: say never, right. I truly believe and this is just
Speaker 1: my instinctful feeling, and people can have whatever they want
Speaker 1: to say. Because even Travis uh from geek Verse disagrees
Speaker 1: with me on this. I feel like if we don't
Speaker 1: get at least some sort of hint or tease that
Speaker 1: this is actually a possibility in this calendar year, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's happening. Travis believes that you have to
Speaker 1: wait until at least celebration.
Speaker 2: I would agree. If you don't get anything at celebration,
Speaker 2: that's when I would be like, Okay, we're do in
Speaker 2: the parre. Because the other thing that I think is
Speaker 2: a possibility is that Driver could have liked the script
Speaker 2: for the Hunt of or Been Solo so much that
Speaker 2: they might try to manipulate it into their own product. Yes,
Speaker 2: where it's not IP related.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking, and or he liked the
Speaker 1: script so much, saying hey, let's do something completely different
Speaker 1: because I like your ideas. I like what you can write,
Speaker 1: I like you know what you can do. So that's
Speaker 1: the reason why I think the meeting actually happened. But
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I thought, hey, this can't
Speaker 1: happen because of celebration is and marketing can just be
Speaker 1: weird sometimes, so you know, something can be completely off
Speaker 1: from this. But I'm thinking, hey, if you announce the
Speaker 1: Hunt for Ben Solo immediately before Starfighter, because right, it
Speaker 1: would be it would Starfighter come out first, or would
Speaker 1: it be celebration. It's celebration in Starfighter.
Speaker 2: Right, celebrations in April.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I felt that if you announce Ben Solo
Speaker 1: before Starfighter, then you have a lot of people who
Speaker 1: I'm guessing people can do this. But I was afraid of, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're kind of putting the winds like towards this other
Speaker 1: announcement right before you're releasing a Star Wars film.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna argue with you there, because I would argue
Speaker 2: that it's the perfect time to tease it. Because the
Speaker 2: hunt for Ben's solo would take place after Starfighter. You
Speaker 2: could very easily tease a post credit in Starfighter that
Speaker 2: relates to it, like we've talked about, So you might
Speaker 2: draw more people to the theater for Starfighter to get
Speaker 2: the post credit sym Because we've heard that raised Jedi
Speaker 2: Order is going to take part in Storefighter in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form. We know that there was lightsaber fights.
Speaker 2: We know Matt Smith and Yagot's characters both have lightsabers.
Speaker 2: Very easy to see Ray being a part of this,
Speaker 2: so leading into it could very well possibly be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, That is very very true. I hope
Speaker 1: I'm proven wrong. I hope I'm proven wrong. So, Katie,
Speaker 1: the last topic, the very last topic season two.
Speaker 2: Oh, we almost said that at the same time.
Speaker 1: We almost did. That would have been uh so, Katie,
Speaker 1: I told I told you this very right before we
Speaker 1: actually started talking about topics. About this poster. I even
Speaker 1: texted to you, I said, Hey, I don't know how
Speaker 1: I feel about this poster, which is art is subjective.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you gonna share the poster.
Speaker 2: My sharing the poster.
Speaker 1: You share the poster because I was trying to just
Speaker 1: grab it from the notes and be like, hey, you
Speaker 1: could share it here, but like it's being all weird
Speaker 1: and I would have to like go search for it.
Speaker 1: So if you could share, that would be absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2: Close enough, Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, So this poster, I don't know how I feel
Speaker 1: about it. I love this because it's not quite so.
Speaker 1: I've seen some people people just seemingly think that because
Speaker 1: Marvel uses the floating heads so much that they invented
Speaker 1: the floating head poster. I don't know if that's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent true. I don't know, like I I, I
Speaker 1: don't know what this is supposed to be invoking.
Speaker 2: It's no very Samurai esque. Ka story has always kind
Speaker 2: of evoked, is that wandering Samurai with the villain creeping
Speaker 2: in the background again floating head, but it's not like
Speaker 2: terribly floating head. It's just kind of like he's lurking
Speaker 2: in her shadow kind of thing. We've got, what I'm
Speaker 2: assuming is the chimera in the center, which is like
Speaker 2: hanging over Thron's like face. And I really dig that
Speaker 2: because the Kimera has always been thrown ship and so
Speaker 2: if that is the camera, that's kind of really cool
Speaker 2: and then at the bottom, I love that Asoka is
Speaker 2: really the central character on this. You don't really have
Speaker 2: of any overwhelming personalities other than the villain in this,
Speaker 2: which makes sense. I have had issues with posters that
Speaker 2: or with shows that don't focus on the sole character
Speaker 2: that the show is named after, because why would you
Speaker 2: name it after that character?
Speaker 1: Otherwise I would want to go ahead and say that
Speaker 1: I am really, really, really happy, and people could say
Speaker 1: boo on you for me saying this. I am so
Speaker 1: glad Hayden Christensen is not on this post. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: it has been confirmed.
Speaker 2: The trailer.
Speaker 1: We we are not going to I don't want to
Speaker 1: like overshare it and get this podcast get taken down.
Speaker 1: We're not going to share the trailer. It is out
Speaker 1: there G twenty three ahsokas season two tailer. That's all
Speaker 1: you got a certain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let we'll talk about it. But I am
Speaker 1: glad that Ahsoka is the talking point here. We do
Speaker 1: have like some red silhouettes it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like a fight scene. At the bottom.
Speaker 2: You've got with clearly job of the hut Ezra. You've
Speaker 2: also got what looks like Hara and Chopper. I don't
Speaker 2: know who the person holding the blaster is because that
Speaker 2: doesn't look like se Beane's head.
Speaker 1: I think it's because it's I think it's her blasters.
Speaker 1: Those are her blasters.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like her head, and it doesn't look
Speaker 2: like her head with a helmet on it.
Speaker 1: It's it's okay, So I think what they are trying
Speaker 1: to do, which doesn't make any sense because her hairstyle
Speaker 1: has completely changed, but I think it's trying to invoke
Speaker 1: her bowl cut from the show Rebels. Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: see that, but again Ahsoca season one, she had very
Speaker 1: long hair and then it went short. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think that is what they're trying to do because I
Speaker 1: saw the blaster and I immediately thought, oh, that's Sabine.
Speaker 2: That was the only person I thought it could be.
Speaker 2: But it just doesn't look like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: That's where my big issues. Super. You very clearly have
Speaker 2: Balin over here. You can't see my mouse, but he's
Speaker 2: in the far right of the image, and I think
Speaker 2: that's the chimera up top. Again, I question who this
Speaker 2: other person on the right holding of the lightsabers?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, so Balen is right in front of
Speaker 1: Ezra and Shin is the one with Kpe.
Speaker 2: You think that Shin because the way and I think
Speaker 2: I got I think Balen's on the right is because
Speaker 2: they picture Bayalen with.
Speaker 1: Always they always put him with the hood. But I
Speaker 1: think it is. I think it's Shin with with her
Speaker 1: hood because I think the I have to I'll have
Speaker 1: to double check, but I'm pretty sure the one time
Speaker 1: or maybe even just twice in the trailer that she
Speaker 1: is there she has her hood. I'll have to double
Speaker 1: watch it again or double.
Speaker 2: There's a part where she's fighting uh Professor hu Yang
Speaker 2: uh and she's got her hood down in that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so yeah, uh.
Speaker 2: Anyways, very excited for this. It's coming January twentieth, which
Speaker 2: is a Wednesday, So I don't know if that necessarily
Speaker 2: means a three am showing or if it's going to
Speaker 2: eventually switch to Tuesday. Just not sure.
Speaker 1: So so far, we've had Wednesday shows. We have we
Speaker 1: talked about like the fact that like has I think
Speaker 1: we have is it Wednesday's animated shows and then Tuesday
Speaker 1: live action shows.
Speaker 2: That's what the trend has been. But for the last
Speaker 2: live action show we had which was I think, and
Speaker 2: or they did they said it was Monday night, okay,
Speaker 2: And so with the fact that they're saying, oh, this
Speaker 2: is January twentieth, which is a Wednesday, that doesn't give
Speaker 2: me hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's move on to the actual trailer, because
Speaker 1: this one I do have up because I do have
Speaker 1: to mention one of the first things on this trailer,
Speaker 1: and I actually have to pause it and look up
Speaker 1: when I'm about to reference because I did see somebody
Speaker 1: else reference it. Let me see if I can spell
Speaker 1: it correctly. Because we have talked about it only once
Speaker 1: in this entire podcast. We've talked about it once before.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the reference of when we talked about it.
Speaker 1: But I love how even in the even in the Wikipedia,
Speaker 1: the Star Wars fans to site it already has the uh,
Speaker 1: the reference that I'm talking about in the trailer, and
Speaker 1: it has the reference that I'm about to talk about
Speaker 1: what we've already talked about.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm bringing I'm bringing them up right now. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring this photo up and I'm gonna share it
Speaker 1: right now we're sharing the screen a triple bladed lightsaber.
Speaker 1: We have referenced this photo literally once, have we?
Speaker 2: Yes, when have we referenced this?
Speaker 1: Okay, we've referenced it once, and I'm now starting to
Speaker 1: remember it wasn't live, so it wasn't live. But we
Speaker 1: were talking about so we were trying to talk about, Hey,
Speaker 1: what are some topics that we could talk about on
Speaker 1: some of the random days in the year. No, we
Speaker 1: were talking about our favorite lightsaber hilts or styles or
Speaker 1: something about lightsaber specifically or something along those lines. And
Speaker 1: we had referenced this. I had referenced it, and like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think this would be really fun to talk about
Speaker 1: because of specifically this photo that I've never had any
Speaker 1: reference from. I've seen this photo so many times, so
Speaker 1: many times, and I have no idea where it's from, right,
Speaker 1: I have no idea where this is from. But this
Speaker 1: weekend we got to see some random dude in this
Speaker 1: trailer pull out a double bladed lightsaber and then he
Speaker 1: moves his hilt to reveal a third blade. Katie, when
Speaker 1: I saw this, I immediately brought up the other, the other,
Speaker 1: the other lightsaber picture, and I was like, they're doing
Speaker 1: the thing. Oh my gosh, And that's what a lot
Speaker 1: of people were also saying. For one, I have no
Speaker 1: idea who this is. This is a flashback, yes, of
Speaker 1: a Clone Wars scene because we see a young Ahsoka
Speaker 1: and we see a young Anakin Skywalker.
Speaker 2: My only it looks like Ariana green Blat is returning
Speaker 2: for that by the way.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now I will say she does look a
Speaker 1: little bit older, so like it's a little wonky timeline wise,
Speaker 1: but you know, here there, I still love it. My
Speaker 1: immediate thought process when when seeing this random dude with
Speaker 1: the heavy eyeliner was pong Krell. Pong Krell a racist bastard,
Speaker 1: was a Jedi who seemingly fell to the dark side
Speaker 1: and wanted to work with Dooku and all of that.
Speaker 2: Right, yep, so real quick. The picture that you shared
Speaker 2: was created by Mark rec rec Cup as part of
Speaker 2: his injury in the magazine's Design and Alien competition for
Speaker 2: Star Wars. Galaxy Magazine in nineteen ninety five invited fans
Speaker 2: to submit their original creature designs based on the original
Speaker 2: Star Wars trilogy. Right Ubis Thorn Black War Dragon one
Speaker 2: first place and was subsequently published in the magazine. That's correct.
Speaker 2: It's not even that.
Speaker 1: It's not even I was gonna say, it's not even Legends.
Speaker 1: Cannon is literally just a concept of an idea that's amazing.
Speaker 1: But this character, when I see it in the trailer,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, really cool lightsaber. And then the
Speaker 1: fight actually took place, and then I had to stop,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a second, he doesn't have red lightsabers.
Speaker 1: It is green and blue. What is going on?
Speaker 2: Well, and it goes back. It goes back to what
Speaker 2: Vernestra went through when modifying her lightsaber, about how modifying
Speaker 2: your lightsaber and going beyond the strict one blade lightsaber
Speaker 2: can lead to dark side habits because of the way
Speaker 2: that you're allowing things to flow differently and not sticking
Speaker 2: to structure.
Speaker 1: You have been listening to your young adult high Republic
Speaker 1: novels just like me. Look at that.
Speaker 2: I actually haven't even gotten that far. I've only finished
Speaker 2: Into the Dark.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. That's hilarious because it's literally the very next book.
Speaker 1: I know it's an out of the status because I
Speaker 1: literally listened to that part yesterday. So yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's true. And I love that. I love whether it
Speaker 1: be coincidence or not. I love it because honestly, with
Speaker 1: stuff with Star Wars like it can be coincidence. But
Speaker 1: also like we know that these people have a giant
Speaker 1: Star Wars Bible and so like this could very much
Speaker 1: work in their like planning and stuff.
Speaker 2: So and I will be curious to see because it's
Speaker 2: not in the trailer long enough to see if this
Speaker 2: is just like, Okay, he happens to have like a
Speaker 2: two bladed lightsaber that then kind of split into one
Speaker 2: lightsaber and a duel phased lightsaber or the dual ended lightsaber,
Speaker 2: or if it's really like he's using a middle guard,
Speaker 2: because I'm curious, does he how the fighting mechanics would
Speaker 2: work with that?
Speaker 1: It almost reminds me of the Ronan. The Ronan he
Speaker 1: like kind of had the same gimmick in his blade style.
Speaker 1: Uh So, like, I'm very curious on how all that's
Speaker 1: gonna work. But that's just the intro to the trailer.
Speaker 1: We get some some words from Anakin, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely hilarious how so many people are
Speaker 1: like man Anakin is spending all this time with his
Speaker 1: old padawan, and there is his son struggling to like
Speaker 1: actually like bring up the Jedi and like make it
Speaker 1: new and everything else, and he's about to make so
Speaker 1: many mistakes with Ben and you're still anything to help him.
Speaker 2: Like, but it also it also just might be that
Speaker 2: it takes more energy for him to go work with
Speaker 2: it with Luke versus working with Ahsoka because he already
Speaker 2: has that connection with Ahsoka and that bond.
Speaker 1: I I am curious if we will ever learn because
Speaker 1: again there is how long has it been since Legacy
Speaker 1: has come out? Is it safe to talk about spoilers?
Speaker 1: Is it not safe?
Speaker 2: I think it's safe to talk about spoils.
Speaker 1: Okay, three weeks, all right, Okay, spoilers for Star Wars
Speaker 1: legacy novel that just recently came out. We know that
Speaker 1: there's a cameo with against Skywalker. Thank god I've been
Speaker 1: able to say that. So like with the with the
Speaker 1: knowledge of Anakin seeing all of our heroine heroes and
Speaker 1: just leaving his son out to dry, like it's I'm
Speaker 1: curious to know if we will ever get an explanation.
Speaker 2: But we also just don't know that Anakin didn't visit
Speaker 2: Luke more frequently. The only visit that we know that
Speaker 2: he had is in the one piece through Luke Skywalker
Speaker 2: that we had was Shadow of the Cis.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And because of our conversation there, which by
Speaker 1: the way, please go listen to our Legacy review, I
Speaker 1: feel like we have a really genuine conversation about this there.
Speaker 1: But we did discuss that there is a huge possibility
Speaker 1: that once you there is there is tiny whinmy stuff
Speaker 1: dealing with being actually a part of the force. Like
Speaker 1: because of so wordings that Luke Skywalker has as a
Speaker 1: Force ghost, it implies that you are anywhere and everywhere
Speaker 1: all at once. So I would be curious if we
Speaker 1: ever even if we get like why Okay, I feel
Speaker 1: like they have done this, but I need confirmation or
Speaker 1: at least hey, uh Lucasfilm Publishing, Uh del ray, like everybody,
Speaker 1: like welcome to our podcast. Could we get the Star
Speaker 1: Wars Bible publicated please? Like encyclopag like a lot.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what Star Wars timelines tried to be.
Speaker 1: Yes, like like like Encyclopedia. Yes, but I need it
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more in depth. I need
Speaker 1: there to be like in the nitty gritty like I
Speaker 1: I I want to be in I want to be
Speaker 1: the fly on the wall when they're writing the Bible.
Speaker 1: That's what I want, like honestly, but like I either way,
Speaker 1: either way, I am excited for this. I everybody has
Speaker 1: wanted more Anakin one thing that we haven't seen that
Speaker 1: I still believe could very possibly happen, but it will
Speaker 1: not be shown in the trailers. I think we might
Speaker 1: see a small cameo of Obi Wan. What do you think.
Speaker 2: With it being snow Knoby, I could see it knowing
Speaker 2: the context of the at least one flashback, I could
Speaker 2: see it, Yeah, because you all know that snow was
Speaker 2: Obi Wan's favorite place to be. I don't imagine that
Speaker 2: because I felt like with the flashback that we got
Speaker 2: in Ahsoka season one, I felt like those flashbacks I
Speaker 2: think it was just one actually, but I felt like
Speaker 2: that one it had too much possibility for crossing over
Speaker 2: the episodic timelines. And so with knowing that this is
Speaker 2: a light taber fight that did not happen on screen
Speaker 2: that we never got anything about, I feel like it's
Speaker 2: more plausible to have Oh we want appear and it
Speaker 2: doesn't create as much havoc on the timeline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: That is the benefit of having the Clone Wars guy,
Speaker 2: uh run the show. But the next part is like
Speaker 2: the first thing that I brought up to you because
Speaker 2: we had talked about the Snow Clone Wars flashbacks, because
Speaker 2: we saw the costumes on Friday or on Thursday, yes,
Speaker 2: and then this came out late Friday night. So the
Speaker 2: first thing that I brought up to you was Thrown
Speaker 2: looks better.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so so that has been Actually I thought
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Apparently threads
Speaker 1: and Twitter and Instagram all have the same consensus. They
Speaker 1: are like, hey, they fixed Thrown.
Speaker 2: And it's still not great, but he looks more life.
Speaker 2: He has more life to him.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, he looks like a better live
Speaker 1: action version of himself. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: I still consider him too light skinned, Like I think
Speaker 2: they went the opposite way of what they needed to go,
Speaker 2: Like Thrown is a little more dark.
Speaker 1: So that was the thing because we I don't remember
Speaker 1: if we said it specifically, but when you look at
Speaker 1: a because I'm pretty sure I sent it to you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a like side by side of or above
Speaker 1: and below photo of thron in season one versus now,
Speaker 1: and it very well just might be the lighting, right.
Speaker 1: It might be because what we see in season two is,
Speaker 1: or at least in the trailer, is he is on
Speaker 1: a ship in space close to a sun or a
Speaker 1: star and you see a very bright yellow on his
Speaker 1: face that is making him look a little like a
Speaker 1: little shocky kind.
Speaker 2: Of But they fluffed out his hair and just try
Speaker 2: to make him look chiss like. I appreciate it in
Speaker 2: Obi wan Kenobi where we got the grain and quistor
Speaker 2: and his face is more round than it was in
Speaker 2: like the prequel trilogy with Revenge of the Sith, like
Speaker 2: that species. Yeah, I appreciate still the fact that, Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't want this guy going around with a bunch
Speaker 2: of prosthetics because he has to fight. In this case,
Speaker 2: I almost think going a little more human with the
Speaker 2: shape of his face leans a little more beneficial to
Speaker 2: the character's appearance. I still think based on this, based
Speaker 2: on the trailer, they went to light, but again that
Speaker 2: could be lighting. I just wish, like the chists are
Speaker 2: dark skinned, there's no reason that he has this light
Speaker 2: and other than they don't want to paint that much
Speaker 2: makeup on him.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's what I'm like wondering like, so
Speaker 1: there's movie magic, right, Yeah. I wonder what would happen
Speaker 1: if you tempted too, like.
Speaker 2: Would be out of the blue?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, would it be saturate or desaturate
Speaker 1: his skin?
Speaker 2: To the issue that you could potentially run into is
Speaker 2: the expense with that and then potentially causing issues with
Speaker 2: the rest of the way the show looks. It could
Speaker 2: very well be that it's a live action Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I mean, Like, you're one hundred
Speaker 1: percent right, because realistically, and this is me just knowing
Speaker 1: the knowledge of video editing, the very small amount of
Speaker 1: video editing that I even do, what you would potentially
Speaker 1: have to do is green screen every single scene that
Speaker 1: thron is in, map out his skin, saturate it, and
Speaker 1: then lay that on top of every single piece of
Speaker 1: film or of course scenes that he is in. And
Speaker 1: that could be very time consuming for one and very
Speaker 1: very expensive. And I just think ultimately it may not
Speaker 1: look good because of the extensive work that they would
Speaker 1: have to do to almost make it perfect.
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's where I feel like at least they
Speaker 2: made a little bit of improvements, especially with the hair.
Speaker 2: The hair and the lifeless aspects of large Michelson like
Speaker 2: appearance in the season one just did not look good
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: I will say, like he essentially in the two photos
Speaker 1: that I shared with you, he is essentially making the
Speaker 1: same face. I see more emotion in season two than
Speaker 1: I do in season one.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And I think that's ultimately what they want, because even his.
Speaker 2: Player is also not greased back on the sides to
Speaker 2: give him that appearance of the elongated scalp.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's that's the other thing also that I like,
Speaker 1: literally you just saying it. I noticed they did. I
Speaker 1: feel like they also with the prosthetics. I think this
Speaker 1: is prosthetics because I don't think his forehead does this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the V that you see in rebels.
Speaker 1: So so they made it very prominent in season one.
Speaker 1: In season two, they made it more to where it
Speaker 1: complements his already.
Speaker 2: The facial emotions that he's having. Yes, and so like
Speaker 2: the the V looks like it's like actually like eyebrow
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 1: Guess, it looks like muscles in the skin, looks like
Speaker 1: there is like actual like creases and stuff rather than
Speaker 1: just like this prominent like V thing on his forehead,
Speaker 1: which I think does help I think it helps with
Speaker 1: the portraying of Michelson trying to evoke some sort of emotion.
Speaker 1: It technically takes away from what the character is portrayed as,
Speaker 1: which I know a lot of people will be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: technically blah bla blah blah blahlah like those people you know,
Speaker 1: boo on them. I do think that overall, although he
Speaker 1: may not be canonically the same color as a Chiss,
Speaker 1: I think this version will ultimately will be better than season.
Speaker 2: And I think if that's what they spent three years on,
Speaker 2: which I don't think they did, is improving the prosthetics.
Speaker 2: We already know that Ariana Greenblatt's Montrels look better, Rosaro
Speaker 2: Dawson's Montrels look better. If they improved Thron's prosthetics, if
Speaker 2: they did other things to improve the way things move
Speaker 2: in the way that we can get better action sequences,
Speaker 2: better emotions out of our characters that are aliens on
Speaker 2: screen and don't have cgi associated to it. I think
Speaker 2: that will be beneficial long term if we can make
Speaker 2: that happen.
Speaker 1: More scenes within the trail.
Speaker 2: Night Sisters and a Night castor ball.
Speaker 1: I love it. Yes, Yes, So this is something that
Speaker 1: I also shared with you before even the trailer was released,
Speaker 1: because I was just kind of looking at the photos
Speaker 1: of the Anakin Snow costume and everything else, and I
Speaker 1: zoomed in in the back and I saw the Night Sisters.
Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, like, what is this like? And
Speaker 1: and we had we had already seen some leaked concept
Speaker 1: art of this. Yeah, this is a little bit just
Speaker 1: more refined and more like official. We did end up
Speaker 1: getting to see those Night Sisters in the actual trailer.
Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to find the actual wording because there
Speaker 1: was a like Tea's Last celebration of what Filoni was saying, like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what you can expect from a Soca season
Speaker 1: two and it was coming up like right before D
Speaker 1: twenty three came out, and the wording oh Ahsoka season
Speaker 1: two brings the wars in Star Wars, like this is
Speaker 1: going to be an all out war. Yeah, from what
Speaker 1: we can tell, Thron is no holds bar saying hey,
Speaker 1: I'm taking over the galaxy, like this is not how
Speaker 1: things should be run. This is what Palpatine wanted, and
Speaker 1: so this is what we're going to do. Like that
Speaker 1: is just what is in his mindset since day one.
Speaker 1: It's always been like that. So he is coming into
Speaker 1: the Star Wars galaxy with that mindset and he will
Speaker 1: throw whatever thermal detonator he needs to to do that.
Speaker 1: And that's what we see in this trailer. We are
Speaker 1: seeing space fights. We are seeing awesome, awesome blaster fights.
Speaker 1: This is where we see the Night Sisters. We see
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Night Sister planet, Dathamir. We see Dathamir.
Speaker 1: Uh what else do we see? We see Bayleen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the first look at Balen.
Speaker 1: The snow, there is not a clear look at him yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got his hood up. He's in the snow.
Speaker 2: That's about it. But he's got the bushy beard, so
Speaker 2: they cut the same beard.
Speaker 1: I am very very excited to see how Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm forgetting his name?
Speaker 2: Is it Roy.
Speaker 1: Bayleen? Oh my god, not Bacon Bayleen.
Speaker 2: Yes, I found it by looking up that.
Speaker 1: I am very very excited to see his portrayal as Balen.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to kill it. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be absolutely amazing. We see a a reunion of
Speaker 1: Java and of Zeb.
Speaker 2: They knew they had to give this to us because.
Speaker 1: I like it. Is so it is literally half a
Speaker 1: second long. It is half a second, like you see, uh,
Speaker 1: who do you see? First you see Chopper, and then
Speaker 1: a split second later you see Zeb and Ezra hug
Speaker 1: it out, and then you see Ezra again. So it's
Speaker 1: a split second. But even for that split second, it
Speaker 1: literally warmed my heart. I'm so excited to see them
Speaker 1: because you know, you know, as soon as they get
Speaker 1: into a dogfight, it is going to be classic Zeb
Speaker 1: and Ezra like getting angry at each other but joking
Speaker 1: around and like you just know Ezra is gonna get
Speaker 1: on Zeb's nerves somehow, and it's.
Speaker 2: Just and that's that's the super funny thing is like
Speaker 2: they're like literally getting ready to go out. It looks
Speaker 2: like into a dogfight at that point because Zeb's in
Speaker 2: his flight suit and Ezra's in his like pilot jacket.
Speaker 2: But then the next shot he's in h he's piloting
Speaker 2: and a wing out of a hangar like, so they're
Speaker 2: like about to go into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, another point, uh, and then I will give the
Speaker 1: floor to you. Actually two, but the second one can
Speaker 1: can wait until later because there has been a like
Speaker 1: although it's a badass moment, I think it's really fun.
Speaker 1: There has been a little bit of like eye rollinginess
Speaker 1: that I have seen with Hwang turning into General Grievous.
Speaker 2: Why how so you would not like to have fight?
Speaker 1: Well, people are saying like, why would you do this?
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, for one, he's why. He knows every
Speaker 1: single fighting style, so and he.
Speaker 2: Saw General Grievous do it, so why wouldn't he make
Speaker 2: the modification to do it himself?
Speaker 1: That is my thought process.
Speaker 2: Also, he was the defender of all of these young
Speaker 2: wings who went to find their crystal and only went
Speaker 2: with Padawans, and so he had to know how to
Speaker 2: defend them. Just because he didn't do it in the
Speaker 2: one Clone Wars episode he was in doesn't mean he
Speaker 2: couldn't do it. He was damaged.
Speaker 1: I love how you just like take that one jab
Speaker 1: at him. It's like he could have done here, by
Speaker 1: the way, but he was damaged. But my my genuine
Speaker 1: thought process of this, and that's like the fourth time
Speaker 1: I've said that in this whole all right.
Speaker 2: Also, he could have decided at that point that he
Speaker 2: needed to make the modifications where he could use lightsabers
Speaker 2: at that point, and that could have been the whole
Speaker 2: point of like, why he's never done it before is
Speaker 2: because he got attacked at that point.
Speaker 1: But I genuinely believe that he at one point saw
Speaker 1: a hollow of General Grievous or read some sort of
Speaker 1: assessment or mission briefing about General Grievous and said, huh, interesting,
Speaker 1: I want to see how that might work yep, and
Speaker 1: then made the modification. I think that makes the most sense. Genuinely, yep.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't see there being any problem with
Speaker 1: this whatsoever. But there has been a little bit of like, oh, so,
Speaker 1: just because he's adroid, he needs to fight like General Grievs,
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, that's not entirely true, because we've
Speaker 1: seen droids with light like practice droids do all sorts
Speaker 1: of different things, and so why couldn't they Because literally
Speaker 1: the knowledge is out there of General Grievs copy paste
Speaker 1: into a droid's memory base.
Speaker 2: It's not General grievous because he put four arms on
Speaker 2: his back and did not split his arms in two.
Speaker 1: So also true, not completely. He made his own exactly exactly. Uh,
Speaker 1: But I do think that's fun. I do. I genuinely
Speaker 1: think that's fun.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear David Tennant in a lightsaber. Fai.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a blast.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: Uh so what was the second thing you had? Because
Speaker 2: basically we've talked about everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to actually have to share my
Speaker 1: entire window to prove this real quick. Okay, so let
Speaker 1: me grab this uh Jedi Survivor, and then.
Speaker 3: Let me grab a image real quick.
Speaker 1: Where to go? Where do you go? My gosh open
Speaker 1: new tab Ooh yeah, okay, so I'm going to share
Speaker 1: my entire window hopefully. Oh you know why because this
Speaker 1: is my sideways facing. Uh oh, you know what, what
Speaker 1: if I just do this? There we go? So okay,
Speaker 1: the top is Jedi Survivor or the Jedi series. That
Speaker 1: glyph on the floor is a safe point you go.
Speaker 1: You go to these little glip They're all over the
Speaker 1: place on every world that you are traveling to, and
Speaker 1: you were able to save your progress. Now, the glyphs
Speaker 1: technically have like a small piece of like actual story
Speaker 1: like planet wise. I can't remember which planet it is,
Speaker 1: but because of that, in the trailer down below are
Speaker 1: the exact same glyphs. So there's a possibility that we're
Speaker 1: going to be visiting one of the planets that's in
Speaker 1: the Jedi Survivor series.
Speaker 2: I don't know about visiting one of the planets because
Speaker 2: I feel like that's still on the extragalactic planet.
Speaker 1: If it is, that even makes it more interesting because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the planet that I'm thinking of and
Speaker 1: the species is like very very very very old in
Speaker 1: the way that they explained it. I'll I didn't come prepared.
Speaker 1: I just I literally saw somebody point this out yesterday
Speaker 1: and I didn't have time today to look it up.
Speaker 1: I'll have you know. When we were talking about season
Speaker 1: two again, I'll probably put it in like some sort
Speaker 1: of like reminder. But yeah, like I thought this was
Speaker 1: very cool that somebody noticed, like, hey, that looks familiar.
Speaker 1: Where is that from? Weh wait, look there's the Jedi uh.
Speaker 2: Crazy Survivors in like a good way, Like I love
Speaker 2: the people find these things for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think like it's it's this. It's another
Speaker 1: favorite franchise of mine that people are going gaga over
Speaker 1: right now just because of all the D twenty three
Speaker 1: stuff as Kingdom Hearts, So like, yeah, video game. People
Speaker 1: are just so fun. Yeah, that is it that I
Speaker 1: could think of about this show. Yes, I have.
Speaker 2: We talked about everything. We talked about Throud, and we
Speaker 2: talked about Hair and the crew. We talked about Anakin,
Speaker 2: we talked about the flashbag. Yeah, I think we're good.
Speaker 1: All right. Well with that, guys, I want to thank
Speaker 1: everybody who did stop by. I believe at some point
Speaker 1: we peaked at about sixteen people, which is very.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Hey, there we go again, guys, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being here. You can find me over at Instagram
Speaker 1: and threads and also over at Ranger Alliance, a part
Speaker 1: of the g UA here go check us out. This
Speaker 1: upcoming Monday, Jake and I have finally caught up on
Speaker 1: the show that we are reviewing. I had to do
Speaker 1: a solo show last uh, the last episode, but we
Speaker 1: are going to be meeting up this upcoming Sunday to
Speaker 1: talk everything. So it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Go find me at like I said, Instagram and Threads.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm spending most of my time these days.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Katie, what about you? Y'all?
Speaker 2: You can find me on most social media platforms. It's
Speaker 2: at SLASA Katie. This show you can find on Instagram
Speaker 2: and Threads and Blue Sky. It's at Star Wars Lines
Speaker 2: at the A and the war is very important to
Speaker 2: forget it. We also put that user name in front
Speaker 2: of at gmail dot com and choose. I would love
Speaker 2: to hear from you, guys. What are you excited for
Speaker 2: with ahsokas season two? Are you ready for? Do we
Speaker 2: need to do a rewatch in January to remind everybody
Speaker 2: of how far we came, what happened and all those things.
Speaker 2: Let us know.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to because it like you,
Speaker 1: Like we've said, it's been three years.
Speaker 2: Yes, I be too, So yeah, we'd love to hear
Speaker 2: from you guys. Next week we will be going back
Speaker 2: to the young adult High Republic books and just talking
Speaker 2: everything that happened in them. How did they go from
Speaker 2: phase to phase, what transitions the best, what do we
Speaker 2: find issues with long term? That kind of thing. So yeah,
Speaker 2: come back next week and we so with that, guys,
Speaker 2: I want to wish everyone a great day or nick
Speaker 2: whatever time and day you were listening or watching, and
Speaker 2: we will se y'all next time. May the Force to
Speaker 2: be with you