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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty assumes.

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<v Speaker 2>On learner type Amazon dot com. I kick it my

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<v Speaker 2>way to about two million, five hundred thousand books subvix

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<v Speaker 2>remarkd lease.

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<v Speaker 3>I can look up such as Mediterranean cookies and I

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<v Speaker 3>find fifty seven books on the subject. Amazon dot Com

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<v Speaker 3>gives such great discounts that even with a shipping you

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<v Speaker 2>I like not standing in line, stay of standing in line.

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<v Speaker 2>I just sit here at punch one button and my

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<v Speaker 2>book's on the way.

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<v Speaker 4>I found a whole range of books from fiction to

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<v Speaker 4>nonfiction on Tit, Temporary America, on Olympics, and Losday. I

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely great time.

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly. Remember

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<v Speaker 5>when Amazon used to sell books a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they sell everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I got an email once from Jeff Bezos back back

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<v Speaker 4>in the day. Really yeah, and I have a letter

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<v Speaker 4>on a little Christmas chotchki that he sent me. I found,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, you have boxes in the house. I

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<v Speaker 4>found this box and it was wasn't really marked say

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<v Speaker 4>Amazon on the outside. I opened it up and it

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<v Speaker 4>was a pre printed letter from Jeff to some of

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<v Speaker 4>the early people involved and say, Jeff Bezos, we appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 4>B bah bah kfi.

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<v Speaker 5>A six forties later with Mo Kelly, course that's Marsha Colliers,

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<v Speaker 5>we talk about all things tech. That was a vintage

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<v Speaker 5>Amazon commercial and it reminded me and of course reminded

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<v Speaker 5>you what Amazon used to be and how what they

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<v Speaker 5>used to be put bookstores as we know it pretty

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<v Speaker 5>much out of business, and now they're putting a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of other brick and mortar well.

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<v Speaker 4>In line with what we're talking about today. I have

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<v Speaker 4>a friend, the techie guy leron sergev and he's on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>He does a lot of videos and he's done a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of testing, and we were talking about how do

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<v Speaker 4>they get your data? How do they get your information?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know he installed Amazon on a brand new phone,

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<v Speaker 4>never logged in, never even logged into his Google account,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was just a blank phone. And he did

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<v Speaker 4>this with iPhone as well. And guess what it was

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<v Speaker 4>calling in regularly.

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<v Speaker 5>So even though he didn't log in, even though he

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<v Speaker 5>did not use it to make any type of purchase,

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<v Speaker 5>it was stealing data from the phone and communicating.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it was communicating I guess in hopes of there

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<v Speaker 4>being more data because they were DNS hits, which we

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to get into. Technically, TikTok was actually at

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok was the second worst, but really not as nasty.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that say for those phones which have Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>is what we call bloat wear because depending on your carrier,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for install there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why it's there. Jesse, you know, I know we

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<v Speaker 4>all think the microphone listens to us. Do you realize

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<v Speaker 4>if that was to transfer that amount of data it

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<v Speaker 4>would be in a day. It would probably be a

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<v Speaker 4>billion petro bike. It just it's not happening. What it

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<v Speaker 4>picks up is what you type, what you search for,

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<v Speaker 4>what apps you have, what you look at. That's that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>I've had a number of people over the years say, hey, mo,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you recommend as far as trying to scrub

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<v Speaker 5>yourself from the Internet. Some people say the Internet is forever.

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<v Speaker 5>I would like to get rid of, you know, some

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<v Speaker 5>of these sites having my personal data.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything that we can do?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll give you one free thing and one thing

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<v Speaker 4>you have to pay for. Okay, okay, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know that Google will remove search results about you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like if you Google your name you see

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<v Speaker 4>something that's untoward. It's not a matter of censoring. If

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<v Speaker 4>your private information appears in a Google search, that's against

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<v Speaker 4>their policy and they will remove it. Obviously they don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>And how do you do that? There are a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of ways you can do it. Let's say you see

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<v Speaker 4>it and you choose you see your name, click the

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<v Speaker 4>three dots next to any web result you'll see it

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<v Speaker 4>next to web results or always three dots, and pick

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<v Speaker 4>remove result from the panel on the right. Then choose

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<v Speaker 4>the reason for your removal request. One option is it

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<v Speaker 4>shows my personal info and I don't want it there.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to click that. You can also pick I

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<v Speaker 4>have a legal removal request.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That could be if somebody has stolen like put paragraphs

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<v Speaker 4>in my book on there or something like that, they

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<v Speaker 4>would take it out. Now, that won't take it down

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<v Speaker 4>from the internet, mind you, It will take it out

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<v Speaker 4>of Google search. The search results. You can request or

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<v Speaker 4>refresh and you're done and that's it. It's gone. But

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<v Speaker 4>what I do for Google is I have removal requests

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<v Speaker 4>in and that's if you have a Google account, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to have Google one. It gives you those

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<v Speaker 4>two options we spoke of before, and then a little more. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you can go and start removal requests from Google. You

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<v Speaker 4>just go to Google's support page for removing results, and

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<v Speaker 4>you can google that Google removing results, and there's a

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<v Speaker 4>place where they will continually track for your name. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>my name shows up in my podcast title, right, because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all about branding. I stand my name everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's personal but also public information. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So when it comes up with those you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>in Zambia where they listen to the pot believe it

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<v Speaker 4>or not, I leave it. But otherwise it shows up

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<v Speaker 4>in a few other places. And that's unfortunately where Google

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<v Speaker 4>stops because it doesn't go deep Google. This is removing

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<v Speaker 4>from Google search results.

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<v Speaker 2>That says to me.

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<v Speaker 5>It will help somewhat, but the Internet is still forever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that's true. So what I do. I think

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<v Speaker 4>I've mentioned to you before. I use something called delete me, which,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, if anyone wants to use delete me,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a twenty percent coupon. Just messaged me on

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook or I'll give it to you. It's not a Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't make any money. You get twenty percent off,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's one of those weird I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>give it to you over the radio. So what they

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<v Speaker 4>search are data brokers, people like people search spoko. Are

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<v Speaker 4>you familiar with any of these?

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<v Speaker 5>I am very familiar with spokio, and it amazes me

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<v Speaker 5>how much information it can derive on people.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred and forty they deal. They scan one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and forty five data brokers. If you subscribe to their

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<v Speaker 4>it's about one hundred and twenty year, about ten dollars

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<v Speaker 4>a month, but they go deep in every month. They

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<v Speaker 4>review listings one hundred and sixty two, four hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>sixty one last month. Then they go for data brokers

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<v Speaker 4>with info about you when they pick up, and you

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<v Speaker 4>have to give them a certain amount of data first name,

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<v Speaker 4>last name, your spouse's name, anything that's connected to you,

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<v Speaker 4>your addresses, because you know a lot of those are

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<v Speaker 4>real estate sites where they have people's names and owners

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<v Speaker 4>and this and that, and they'll show you stuff in

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<v Speaker 4>the beginning, like ex husband's name. Boy, I had a

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<v Speaker 4>lot to fill in there, but I was getting on

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<v Speaker 4>all his relatives page and all that stuff, and it

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<v Speaker 4>would then link to my private information.

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<v Speaker 2>That's unnerving.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, so ten dollars a month. These people scrub it.

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<v Speaker 4>They send you like a twenty page report every quarter,

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<v Speaker 4>so it works. It's called delete me, and their website

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<v Speaker 4>is joineddelete me dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are two good options, obviously one free. One might

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<v Speaker 5>cost you a little something, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Will help.

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<v Speaker 5>Diminish that footprint out there of personal information.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do both.

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<v Speaker 5>So when we come back, let's talk about the top

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<v Speaker 5>ten scams of twenty twenty four. And hopefully nobody listening

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<v Speaker 5>has been caught up in any of them, but there's

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<v Speaker 5>a good chance you might have.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely you're listening too.

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<v Speaker 1>Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, everybody, the new computers are here, new computers. Who

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<v Speaker 3>may I ask? Authorized new computers?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Who did?

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<v Speaker 4>Who did?

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<v Speaker 3>I did?

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<v Speaker 4>IBM? Of course I did.

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<v Speaker 3>The new IBM Personal System too, the next generation of

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<v Speaker 3>personal computing. New computers, new printers and software, and IBM's

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<v Speaker 3>new graphics put two hundred and fifty six colors on

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<v Speaker 3>a screen at once, so our work will be bolder

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<v Speaker 3>and brighter.

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<v Speaker 4>If it'll make him brighter, count me in.

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<v Speaker 3>Personal System too is faster, Oh, and it has incredible power.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone say power, it's a miracle. He's following instructions. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we were made for each other, so they need to

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<v Speaker 4>use even.

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<v Speaker 3>You could use it.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we tie it all together?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Personal System two has excellent connectivity, so we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>to each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Well if we have to.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just what we need.

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<v Speaker 4>Who is responsible for this?

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<v Speaker 5>Why you may recognize some of those voices, it's the

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<v Speaker 5>whole cast of.

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<v Speaker 2>Mash all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I was wondering who it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, yep, if I am six forty is later with

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<v Speaker 5>mo Kelly Marshall, Collier joins us, you're also going to

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<v Speaker 5>give us some information on some of the top scams

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<v Speaker 5>of the past year. And I shudder to think whether

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<v Speaker 5>I might have been caught up in one or some.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the FTC announces the top scams of twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>What number are we going to start with?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to start with number five?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, number five? Hold on one second. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Internet services, things that people can do to help you

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<v Speaker 4>with your internet, to speed up your internet and just

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<v Speaker 4>do things for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, because your computer's a little slow, right, got it?

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<v Speaker 4>It needs it needs, you know, a little tech support,

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<v Speaker 4>and they'll be more than happy to give you tech

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<v Speaker 4>support and look at your screen and move your mouse

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<v Speaker 4>for you and just fix.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything for a nominal price, and also access to everything

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<v Speaker 5>on your right exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's if you're lucky. If you're unlucky, the best

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<v Speaker 4>case scenario, they just put a bug in it and

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<v Speaker 4>it keeps sending information regularly to the people or some

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<v Speaker 4>other malware exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's and what's interesting is younger people have lost more

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<v Speaker 4>money more often. It's younger people who are falling for

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<v Speaker 4>these Yeah, we're cynical, yea, we heard yes, yeah, sure

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<v Speaker 4>from Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just call one of my friends. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>call my kid.

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<v Speaker 4>He could do it right, exactly, Okay. Number four investments.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest losses happened by bank transfer or payment, followed

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<v Speaker 4>by cryptocurrency. They have these lovely link young ladies with

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful social media photos who engage in DMS with gentlemen

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<v Speaker 4>who may be lonely, who they may have talked. Targeted

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<v Speaker 4>because they can get their data online and see that

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<v Speaker 4>their wives just died or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife is still living and I still get the DX.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm being serious because you'll see it's some sort of

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<v Speaker 5>AI or they stolen the photos of some model and

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<v Speaker 5>they want to talk to you about crypto and investments,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's say, hey, you can wait, make a whole

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<v Speaker 4>We see that's a bad one. They've dove right in.

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<v Speaker 4>What they're supposed to say is you know, you're really

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<v Speaker 4>And then they engage you in a conversation and they

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<v Speaker 4>build trust and friendship with you. And you asked, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you do for a living? Oh? I invest?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh huh, I do it quite successfully. And then you

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<v Speaker 4>say how do you do that? And they say, glad

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<v Speaker 4>you asked. That's just right cryptocurrency. I've been very successful

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<v Speaker 4>in trading my.

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<v Speaker 2>Crypto, even with the southern drawl.

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<v Speaker 4>But okay, so they do this and what I Obviously

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<v Speaker 4>you're not a lonely guy, because these people like dove

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<v Speaker 4>into the crypto right away. But the really deep scams

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<v Speaker 4>where people lose half a million, three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>and more are lonely older people and dumb young people.

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<v Speaker 2>What you know, So the.

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<v Speaker 5>Crypto will get the older people, and I'll say, the

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<v Speaker 5>speed up my computer scans, get the younger people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, yep, yep, yep. And number three job openings, business

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<v Speaker 4>and job openings. How many texts do you get?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, fake job listings right, so they can get your resume,

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<v Speaker 5>all your information.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and you get texts. I get text about it

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, and I wonder, I don't want a job,

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<v Speaker 4>who are you and how do you have my information?

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<v Speaker 4>But of course I never ask any of that. I

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<v Speaker 4>just report it as spam and block and block, and

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<v Speaker 4>you can do that in your messages by those magic

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<v Speaker 4>three dots on Android, and you can also do it

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<v Speaker 4>on iPhone. But the job or opportunity scam, which is

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<v Speaker 4>why you ever wonder why these people on LinkedIn have

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<v Speaker 4>on their profile picture open for work. I mean, hello,

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<v Speaker 4>welcome to fraud.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, see the thing is I actually to be transparent.

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<v Speaker 5>I have that on my profile, but I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>my phone number on my profile, so if anyone reaches

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<v Speaker 5>out to me on my phone, they don't and it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't show up in my contacts that I know right there,

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<v Speaker 5>it is a scam.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's good, but you know, I hate to say it,

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<v Speaker 4>but not everybody is as careful as you. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't like people. I don't trust people. That's

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's why we're here at at dark radio station

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<v Speaker 4>talking to each other. Yeah, the job opportunity thing is bad. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Second is one that we all know online shopping and reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, please explain that for folks who don't know well.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, one of the reasons why Amazon put

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<v Speaker 4>verified purchase on some of the reviews was to verify

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<v Speaker 4>that actually the person bought things there. When you see reviews,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times they will be flowery and descriptive

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<v Speaker 4>and wonderful and not written by a customer. They'll be

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<v Speaker 4>written by the company. Talking about all of that, my

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<v Speaker 4>new book Android Smartphones for Seniors for Dummies. It's on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's doing very well and people seem to really like it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's in color with bigger So anyway, I saw

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<v Speaker 4>the reviews and I saw one came in from the

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<v Speaker 4>UK and it didn't say verified customer. But I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think they do that from other countries. And I called

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<v Speaker 4>my cousin in England, I said, did you leave a

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<v Speaker 4>review of my book? No, so's somebody in the UK.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that, And some guy from Australia too. But

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<v Speaker 4>the point is, if you're listening, thank you. The point

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<v Speaker 4>is the reviews negative and positive are very difficult. You

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<v Speaker 4>have to really judge a product. You need to know

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<v Speaker 4>about the product. Like I know when I shop on Amazon,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to be careful of fabric. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You and I have spoken. We don't like artificial fabrics.

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<v Speaker 4>I always read the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's always a crapshoot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the clothing feels so silky on my body. We

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<v Speaker 4>could go into that deeper, but probably not the time

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<v Speaker 4>for it. But anyway, the fabric is just difficult, so

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<v Speaker 4>you have to read the manufacturer's description and read the questions.

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<v Speaker 4>The questions are on Amazon, for example, are really where

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<v Speaker 4>you'll get the four one one For those who don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what the four.

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<v Speaker 2>One one is, that's reference now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, back in the old days, if you dialed four

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<v Speaker 4>to one one on your phone, dial, oh, you tap right,

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know what like a rotary phone is?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that break your nails? Every time I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the same problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you look good in that? Anyway? The number one

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<v Speaker 4>bad scam on the internet is impostors and they're there,

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<v Speaker 4>They're out there, mo Kelly. There have been some impostors.

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<v Speaker 4>I've let you know when people have hijack not hijacked

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<v Speaker 4>your account, but copied your Yeah. I can think of

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<v Speaker 4>five people in this country whose email address is not

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<v Speaker 4>what they think it is. They probably don't have an

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<v Speaker 4>email address, and every time they write down, well I

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<v Speaker 4>need your email address, they put down my email address

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<v Speaker 4>because we have the same name, and they're from five

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<v Speaker 4>different And that is the least of it, because I

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<v Speaker 4>end up with all the junk mail from all these places.

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<v Speaker 2>You too, huh.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't count how many times I've ended up on

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<v Speaker 5>some obviously insurance list or something where obviously they're just

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<v Speaker 5>putting down my email address.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right now. To me, that's as far as an impostor.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the most biggest violation of anything. And people who

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<v Speaker 4>will shop or sign up for things with your name, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's terrible. Investment scams lead to the biggest losses. People

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<v Speaker 4>reported losing money more often when contacted through social media,

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<v Speaker 4>So be careful who you talk to and engage in

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<v Speaker 4>a direct message.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't have to be careful talking to you,

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<v Speaker 5>Marcia Collier. I can verify. You are you, and you

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<v Speaker 5>are my friend and you are our tech expert. Don't

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<v Speaker 5>you don't like me saying that, but you are like that.

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<v Speaker 5>That could be a promo.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear that, Stephan, She's going in the promo,

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<v Speaker 2>Marcia Collier. I love seeing you. Thanks Mo, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for all you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You too.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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