Speaker 1: Is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a spectacular Tuesday. As we cruise through
Speaker 1: this week, and I'm gonna level with you here, i
Speaker 1: still have to on the show. I'm going to address
Speaker 1: finally the Marjorie Taylor Green thing. I have to talk
Speaker 1: about the administrative state and what that idiot KBJ said
Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court about the administrative state and what
Speaker 1: they're working on there. I have so much stuff I
Speaker 1: still want to get to, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm going to get there for a while. In fact,
Speaker 1: let me go and spoil it. I know I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get there for the next hour. Maybe you
Speaker 1: are new to the Jesse Kelly Show, let me go
Speaker 1: ahead and give it to you. I'm a history freak.
Speaker 1: I am not a historian. I'm a stupid, uneducated Barbarian.
Speaker 1: I was a marine and a construction worker. I went
Speaker 1: to community college. I just love history. I have since
Speaker 1: I was a child. I love history. I can't get
Speaker 1: enough of it. And from time to time on this show,
Speaker 1: I will basically stop all commentary, food, politics, life, and
Speaker 1: I will just tell a history story of some kind.
Speaker 1: I would say every month every two months. I do this.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's an hour, sometimes it's three hours. I try
Speaker 1: to not take up the whole show with that. For
Speaker 1: people who hate it, Well, we've kind of fallen into me,
Speaker 1: Chris Corey, we've kind of fallen into this. Hour two.
Speaker 1: We will do an hour and then we'll go back
Speaker 1: to it. So here's the spoiler alert. The next hour
Speaker 1: is going to be history. It is going to be
Speaker 1: very applicable to America today, to communist insurgencies, world affairs,
Speaker 1: military affairs. There's a lot we can apply. I'm going
Speaker 1: to stop after an hour. We'll go back to the news. Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Hour two we're picking it up again, and we'll keep
Speaker 1: doing it every day until I'm done with it. Okay,
Speaker 1: But there is a conflict that is relatively recent, I
Speaker 1: guess called the Rhodesian Bush War. But it is a conflict.
Speaker 1: As I talk to people, some some know a lot
Speaker 1: about there seems to be no in between. There are
Speaker 1: people who know a lot about it, and there are
Speaker 1: people who know nothing about it. Almost nobody seems to
Speaker 1: know ah a little bit about it. Let me give
Speaker 1: you the reason why, in my opinion, having spent quite
Speaker 1: a while reading looking this up. It's been weeks I've
Speaker 1: been digging into this. It takes place in Africa, so
Speaker 1: it's clear across the globe. It wasn't. Now America was involved,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that, but it wasn't really an
Speaker 1: American thing. So Americans are not going to pay as
Speaker 1: much attention African wars in general, wars and famines and
Speaker 1: things like that are so common to us as we
Speaker 1: look at the news that one doesn't necessarily stand out
Speaker 1: over the others, so we don't look into that. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of one of those things that's gone by
Speaker 1: most people. Another reason it goes by most Americans is
Speaker 1: your teachers in your government schools, if that's what you
Speaker 1: went to, and in your universities, if that's what you
Speaker 1: went to, most likely were communists or communists adjacent. And
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, everybody at some point in time
Speaker 1: in this story doesn't necessarily look great, but there was
Speaker 1: a lot of communist involvement here. In fact, it was
Speaker 1: the communists who destroyed Rhodesia, And therefore your fifth grade
Speaker 1: social studies teacher probably doesn't want to bring it up
Speaker 1: for the same reason they'll tell you two they're blue
Speaker 1: in the face about Hitler, but they don't want to
Speaker 1: really tell you about Mao and Stalin and all those
Speaker 1: things because it makes communism look bad, all right, So
Speaker 1: the people who don't know about it, those are kind
Speaker 1: of the reasons people don't know about it. Now, why
Speaker 1: the other extreme? And we got a bunch of emails
Speaker 1: from people who are clearly Rhodesian bush war freaks. Why
Speaker 1: the other extreme? It is so fascinating, it's so fascinating.
Speaker 1: And because it's so fascinating in so many different ways,
Speaker 1: you can be obsessed with it. What kind of ways.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're a dude or even a chick who's into
Speaker 1: military stuff. We're going to be talking about one of
Speaker 1: the finest militaries, in my opinion, that has ever walked
Speaker 1: the planet. Almost a spartan like society for reasons, I'll explain. Oh,
Speaker 1: so maybe you're into tribal warfare, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I love that stuff too, as you know American Indians,
Speaker 1: things like that. It's got all kinds of that. So
Speaker 1: maybe military stuff is yours. Maybe political drama is your thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe different forms of government are your thing. Maybe diplomacy itself.
Speaker 1: This nation leaning on that nation, but they lean on
Speaker 1: that nation. Whatever you happen to be into, it's in
Speaker 1: this and you can just wade into this story and
Speaker 1: not get near enough. I'm gonna break this down and
Speaker 1: it's gonna take me a while. And I promise you,
Speaker 1: promise you, if you are interested in what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about now, if you go start picking up books, you
Speaker 1: will learn so much more than I'm about to tell you.
Speaker 1: You'll learn new stuff. It's amazing, all right. Now, Remember
Speaker 1: when we did the Crappiest Country in the World, Crappiest
Speaker 1: Country in the World tournament. How about we have Chris
Speaker 1: sixteen countries, sixteen countries in the Crappiest Country in the
Speaker 1: World tournament. One of those countries, maybe you remember, was
Speaker 1: a country named Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe. Huh, it's pretty rough. What
Speaker 1: was wrong with Zimbabwe? Well, there's the whole fifty percent
Speaker 1: unemployment thing. There's the whole you broke your arm, you
Speaker 1: show up at the hospital and they don't have any
Speaker 1: doctors thing. There's the no medicine, cabinets are empty, no
Speaker 1: water in some places. It's so bad in Zimbabwe that people,
Speaker 1: when they have the means to do so, regularly flee.
Speaker 1: Now a truly truly terrible place. But that is interesting,
Speaker 1: you see, because if you were to rewind to not again,
Speaker 1: not ancient history, we'll call it nineteen sixty, Zimbabwe is
Speaker 1: the wealthiest country in all of Africa. You know how
Speaker 1: big Africa is, how many countries there are. It is
Speaker 1: not just wealthy as in there's a couple rich guys.
Speaker 1: Families are on paved roads, air conditioning, people drive jaguarres
Speaker 1: up the road, wonderful modern schools, hospitals, universities. If I
Speaker 1: were to put a blindfold on you right now and
Speaker 1: rewind to the year nineteen sixty and put you in
Speaker 1: any American city, you could look around and see what
Speaker 1: life is like in a modern country. And then I
Speaker 1: would have blindfold you again and teleport you over to
Speaker 1: It was in Zimbabwe then, but to Zimbabwe of nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: You would not be able to tell the difference until
Speaker 1: the people started to speak and you heard the accent.
Speaker 1: So it was so wonderful in nineteen sixty. Why do
Speaker 1: people flee now, starve to death? Now? Why aren't their doctors?
Speaker 1: Why isn't their medicine. We're about to tell that story.
Speaker 1: Let us rewind. We're gonna go back into this is early, early,
Speaker 1: early that we're talking about the age of sailing ships.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give you details that I normally
Speaker 1: don't give as I lay this out, because the base
Speaker 1: of knowledge so many people have is lacking. Here. Don't
Speaker 1: feel bad about that. Most people don't have it right.
Speaker 1: So when I'm vague, it's because I've got too many
Speaker 1: details coming for you later. Rewind all the way back
Speaker 1: to the sailing ship age, the age of Christopher Columbus.
Speaker 1: The European powers. European powers are starting to take these
Speaker 1: wonderful sailing ships, and they're starting to cross the globe.
Speaker 1: They're looking for things, they're looking to claim new lands,
Speaker 1: they're looking to claim new resources. One of those super
Speaker 1: powerful countries back then, which it's funny to think about
Speaker 1: this now because they're not very powerful, was Portugal. Portugal
Speaker 1: was big. Portugal starts bouncing around Africa. They round the
Speaker 1: southern tip of Africa and they start to move inland
Speaker 1: a little bit, and they find this climate that is
Speaker 1: kind of wonderful. When you think of Africa, you don't
Speaker 1: think about it that way, right, You probably think about
Speaker 1: thick jungle. Maybe you're thinking about the Sahara, these vast
Speaker 1: sands and things like that. Of course those things exist,
Speaker 1: but remember Africa is huge. It stands to reason there
Speaker 1: would be parts of it where the climate is flat
Speaker 1: out pretty friggin nice. Portugal finds this climate, try to
Speaker 1: take this climate, and an African tribe we won't go
Speaker 1: into the details of that, fights a valiant war and
Speaker 1: bounces to Portuguese. Portugal says, hey man, we're out. Portugal leaves,
Speaker 1: but the knowledge is there that there is kind of
Speaker 1: this little honey hole towards southern Africa not too shabby.
Speaker 1: From there, we will fast forward to the late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: A is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday.
Speaker 1: You can email us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get to some of those next hour
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but you're just joining us. We're
Speaker 1: talking history, the Rhodesian Bush War. Don't worry, you only
Speaker 1: miss ten minutes. This could be ten hours. I'm only
Speaker 1: gonna do hour two tonight. Don't worry. We'll be back
Speaker 1: to politics in it in forty five minutes or so.
Speaker 1: So Africa, let's go to the late eighteen hundreds. Now
Speaker 1: pause before we get to the late eighteen hundreds. There
Speaker 1: were a warlike people who started stomping the other African
Speaker 1: tribes in southern Africa back in the day. If I
Speaker 1: were to ask you to name one African tribal warlord,
Speaker 1: you would probably be able to name zero or one.
Speaker 1: And the one you would probably name would be who
Speaker 1: do you know, Chris? Do you know Shaka Zulu? Shaka Zulu? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew, you knew it. Most people know their name
Speaker 1: when you say it. So what was Shaka Zulu's deal?
Speaker 1: Shakazulu was this incredible warlike leader. He led the Zulus
Speaker 1: in Africa. He revolutionized some things about combat back then.
Speaker 1: We won't go into the details. It was their spears,
Speaker 1: and the Africans were used to throwing their spears. They
Speaker 1: can whatever. Shaka Zulu revolutionized some warlike things, and as
Speaker 1: happens throughout history, including today, the more powerful people will
Speaker 1: eventually begin conquering the less powerful people around them. He
Speaker 1: starts beating up on everyone, all right. Eventually he has
Speaker 1: somebody who breaks off from him. He essentially has some
Speaker 1: one of his general's rebel. The general rebels and heads
Speaker 1: north all right now. This is the first one of
Speaker 1: the details I'm going to have to give you, And
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm giving giving you this detail is
Speaker 1: it's going to come up later. In fact, it's probably
Speaker 1: going to come up multiple times. We're in the era
Speaker 1: of Shakazulu and this is actually going to be a
Speaker 1: thread that goes throughout the Rhodesian Bush War. The people
Speaker 1: who break off are called the Indo Belly. The Indo Belly,
Speaker 1: don't worry if you don't remember the name, but that
Speaker 1: is the warlike tribe that broke off from Shakazulu. They
Speaker 1: broke off, they went north. In case you're wondering, Shakazulu
Speaker 1: pursued them. It kind of broke off the chase whatever.
Speaker 1: They went north. Well, remember I already told you these
Speaker 1: people were incredibly warlike military advancements, and they started slaughtering
Speaker 1: and subjugating all the other tribes they came into contact with.
Speaker 1: I'm not dogging on them. That's how life was then,
Speaker 1: and frankly now we live in a world of conquest,
Speaker 1: and it was ugly, and they ran across peaceful tribes
Speaker 1: and slaughtered them or made them slaves. They come across
Speaker 1: the area that is now known as Zimbabwe, and they
Speaker 1: discover exactly what I just talked to you about earlier. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's kind of nice here. I think I'll stay.
Speaker 1: And because they were more powerful than the other tribes,
Speaker 1: they moved in and set up shop. Now for the
Speaker 1: only other tribe, I swear on my life, I'm only
Speaker 1: going to give you two tribes because they're the two
Speaker 1: main ones. I could bring other ones to you, but
Speaker 1: it would only bore you and you would hate your life.
Speaker 1: The Shona the Shona, two tribes into belly and Shona
Speaker 1: into belly and shonah with me. This is really going
Speaker 1: to matter for later on, the Indo belly move in
Speaker 1: and they subjugate the Shona. The Shona become the indobelly slaves,
Speaker 1: and it can be okay slavery, Remember where slavery can
Speaker 1: run the gamut throughout history. Sometimes slavery means, hey, you
Speaker 1: don't get paid, but you're the math tutor for my son.
Speaker 1: Here's a nice warm bed, go feed the horses and
Speaker 1: teach my son algebra. And sometimes slavery can be we'll
Speaker 1: work you to death in the salt mines. You'll probably
Speaker 1: die six months from now, right, it can run the gamut.
Speaker 1: This also could run the gamut. Believe me when I
Speaker 1: tell you the Shona people had no rights whatsoever. You
Speaker 1: did never say in your government. They were slaves in
Speaker 1: every way, and in a lot of ways they were pillaged.
Speaker 1: But they did come to some sort of an existence
Speaker 1: where the Shona understood there were slaves. The end of
Speaker 1: Belly were ruling Zimbabwe. I'm going to continue to refer
Speaker 1: to this area as Zimbabwe until it turns to Rhodesia.
Speaker 1: So just hang with me. Remember this as a disclaimer,
Speaker 1: it was not Zimbabwe at the time. There was nothing
Speaker 1: at this time nothing. There was no nation of any
Speaker 1: kindess or just tribes. Let's fast forward now to the
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds to layed eighteen hundreds. The end of Belly
Speaker 1: are still ruling this area. Some guys want to go
Speaker 1: hunt some game in this area controlled by the End
Speaker 1: of Beelly. Everyone in Africa knew by now the Indobelly
Speaker 1: we're calling the shots there. These hunters didn't want to
Speaker 1: be disrespectful and they didn't want to end up on
Speaker 1: the business end of a spear. So they stopped by
Speaker 1: the headquarters of the Indibelly king and they said Hey,
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of animals we want to shoot here.
Speaker 1: Can you mind if we give you a little this
Speaker 1: little that, you know, they exchange some goods. If it's
Speaker 1: okay with you, we're gonna go hunt. The King of
Speaker 1: the Endobelly said, hey, thanks for the gifts. I appreciate it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go shoot some game. The guys take off. They go
Speaker 1: have a good time hunting in Africa. But they find something,
Speaker 1: and it's so funny how life works. Sometimes one little
Speaker 1: discovery can lead to so many other things. The hunters
Speaker 1: keep running into tribal peoples and they're were in gold,
Speaker 1: not just one little gold thing, They're wearing a lot
Speaker 1: of gold. The hunters go back, actually they go to
Speaker 1: South Africa, South Africa, south of this and they start
Speaker 1: talking to people about what they discovered and what their
Speaker 1: plan was. Continue in a moment. It is the Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday. If you miss
Speaker 1: any part of the show, you can download it on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes.
Speaker 1: And it was just talking to Jewish producer Chris about
Speaker 1: this during the break. Obviously Christmas is coming up, and
Speaker 1: you know how it works in radio, The reason your
Speaker 1: favorite radio host is gone for a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: at Christmas, your favorite TV host is gone, podcast or
Speaker 1: whoever is. Because this is the time of year where
Speaker 1: they essentially force you to leave. All the advertisers leave,
Speaker 1: people are off work, nobody listens, so they say, don't
Speaker 1: come in. Don't come in obviously around Christmas. I have
Speaker 1: to take time too. This is gonna be some thing
Speaker 1: you could go back and listen to a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Listen to with the kids. When you miss me, I
Speaker 1: will be back. I'm gonna miss you too, trust me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you too. Back to our story, it's
Speaker 1: the late eighteen hundreds. Some hunters just got back from
Speaker 1: Zimbabwe and they found gold, and, as the saying goes,
Speaker 1: loose lips sink ships. Because the hunters got back from
Speaker 1: Zimbabwe and they had done something very smart before they left.
Speaker 1: They went to the king and they said, hey, we
Speaker 1: kind of like this gold stuff you have going. Would
Speaker 1: you mind if we come back and take some of that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a cut. We're not trying to
Speaker 1: do you wrong. We're gonna give you a cut. We'll
Speaker 1: bring you this, we'll bring you that. But is it Okay,
Speaker 1: it'll be really small if we come back and get
Speaker 1: some of that gold. The king of the end of Belly,
Speaker 1: the ruling tribe at the time, said, ah, sure, knock
Speaker 1: yourself out. Go ahead, okay, the hunter get back to
Speaker 1: South Africa. Now I need to pause for a moment,
Speaker 1: and I'm probably gonna end up doing this a couple times,
Speaker 1: but I need to explain the geography of what we're
Speaker 1: talking about because it's going to matter a lot. So
Speaker 1: what I want you to do is I want you
Speaker 1: to make a circle in your mind. Don't worry. You
Speaker 1: don't have to write it down. You can if you
Speaker 1: want a circle. This circle you just made is a clock,
Speaker 1: all right, a clock. Now from about six o'clock to
Speaker 1: about eight o'clock that border is South Africa to the
Speaker 1: south kind of the southwest. From six o'clock all the
Speaker 1: way to about twelve o'clock that is Mozambique. That is
Speaker 1: going to be huge for the purposes of our story.
Speaker 1: But I'll come back to it to work about memorizing that. Now.
Speaker 1: The other two countries are not as important. Just know
Speaker 1: that north because it will come up is Zambia, all right.
Speaker 1: Zambia Mozambique, South Africa. The hunters go back to South
Speaker 1: Africa six and eight o'clock. Okay. Instead of shutting their
Speaker 1: mouths about the gold in the agreement they got, they
Speaker 1: start to talk. And that was a really bad idea
Speaker 1: because there was a man in South Africa who had
Speaker 1: an unbelievable amount of money and power and Hu wanted
Speaker 1: more of it. And his name was Cecil Roads or
Speaker 1: Cecil Roads. All these names are pronounced differently depending on
Speaker 1: what you're listening to a reading. I'm gonna call him
Speaker 1: Cecil Roads because that was the most common who was
Speaker 1: Cecil Roads. First, he was a brit The Brits are
Speaker 1: going to play a huge part. This is a British story,
Speaker 1: really a British story. He was a major, major power
Speaker 1: player in Britain, super wealthy guy. Now what's he doing
Speaker 1: over there? Well, this is the late eighteen hundreds. Britain
Speaker 1: is aware that most of their colonial age has probably
Speaker 1: passed it by, but they haven't given up the game yet.
Speaker 1: They still want to find other lands, far off lands
Speaker 1: to take over, to mind, to find a place for
Speaker 1: their people to you know, they're an empire that likes
Speaker 1: to expand Britain also had something else they did, and
Speaker 1: they did it very very well, very successfully. Multiple times
Speaker 1: throughout their history they would almost allow their conquests to
Speaker 1: be privatized in a way where you can go conquer
Speaker 1: this land. No, no, take some British people raise an
Speaker 1: army if you like. In fact, we want you to,
Speaker 1: and you have our permission, but we're not really officially
Speaker 1: do it. You see, we're washing our hands of it.
Speaker 1: If you would like to go do something and it
Speaker 1: works out, we'll be there to help out and of
Speaker 1: course take over in the end. Cecil Rhoads he essentially
Speaker 1: steals this agreement from these hunters, and Cecil Rhodes decides
Speaker 1: he likes the idea of this Zimbabwe place, he likes
Speaker 1: the climate. He thinks agriculture could get big there. Mining
Speaker 1: is very clearly going to get big there. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Zimbabwe ended up being really big on things
Speaker 1: like chrome and stuff like that. But Cecil Rhoads is
Speaker 1: one of these you'd call him a billionaire type conquistador
Speaker 1: is essentially what he was. So Central Road or Cecil
Speaker 1: Rhoades does something. He goes to the King of Zimbabwe,
Speaker 1: the exact same king, the miners had dealt with and
Speaker 1: he in a way, I guess, rips him off. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe not. Here's how the deal went. Hey, you know
Speaker 1: how these we're gonna mine a little bit here, We're not.
Speaker 1: We'd like to mine a lot here. And I understand
Speaker 1: your concerns about this, King, I'd totally get that it's
Speaker 1: your land. Wanna be clear it's your land. Just to
Speaker 1: prove to you that it's your land. Because we're gonna
Speaker 1: be bringing all these people through here. We'll build you
Speaker 1: some roads. We're gonna have roads and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you some guns as well. They didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily specify the age of the guns. But these are
Speaker 1: people with shields and spears. Hey, King, I know you
Speaker 1: like to rule over the people around you. How about
Speaker 1: some superior weaponry. They even promised him they would bring
Speaker 1: him a gun boat that went up the river. They
Speaker 1: didn't end up delivering on the gunboat, but they did
Speaker 1: bring some guns. The king call him naive, but Hindsights
Speaker 1: twenty twenty says, you know what I like the sounds
Speaker 1: of that. I want some roads. I want some guns.
Speaker 1: Come on in roads, raises what essentially amounts to an
Speaker 1: entire civil society for this invasion. When I say civil society,
Speaker 1: I mean there are troops, but there are more than troops.
Speaker 1: There are doctors, there are lawyers, there are miners, are
Speaker 1: there's really every major aspect of the society you can
Speaker 1: think of, if any society you can think of, certainly
Speaker 1: a modern society. Cecil Roads raises these people from South Africa,
Speaker 1: from Britain, they come from all other places. But this
Speaker 1: is actually going to be an important part of the
Speaker 1: story as well. I find it fascinating. It's almost like
Speaker 1: a like a weird society that was grown in a lab.
Speaker 1: He wasn't grabbing the dregs of every society. He wasn't
Speaker 1: emptying the prisons or grabbing this guy who who was
Speaker 1: down on his luck. He actually went to the high
Speaker 1: class society, people established families, wealthy families, educated people, and
Speaker 1: he said, hey, your son's a doctor, Come on down, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you want a lot of farmland your daughter? He
Speaker 1: took what essentially amounted to the cream of the crop
Speaker 1: and invaded Zimbabwe with the permission of the king, with
Speaker 1: all of these people, and he starts carving roads in
Speaker 1: is Zimbabwe. He starts building armies This is all done
Speaker 1: with the permission of the British Crown. And again it's
Speaker 1: just cheaper and easier for the British Crown to say, hey, cecil,
Speaker 1: have at it. You have our permission. We're not gonna bother.
Speaker 1: We're we're not sending our people. You just go and
Speaker 1: they this society will call it five hundred people because
Speaker 1: that's roughly how many he came and with originally walk
Speaker 1: into this country, totally foreign country. You have a king,
Speaker 1: this tribe, and the king has a slave tribe that's
Speaker 1: under him, and you have all this other stuff, and
Speaker 1: they start hacking out a living in the middle of
Speaker 1: this wild African land. It wasn't again known as Zimbabwe
Speaker 1: at this time, but they would have one day be
Speaker 1: known as Zimbabwe. Now. There eventually began to be some
Speaker 1: chafing with the relationships. We'll talk about some chafing. Next
Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic, fantastic Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We are almost to the end of our our first
Speaker 1: hour on the Rhodesian Bush, where I know it's the
Speaker 1: second hour of the show. I'm just gonna do ten
Speaker 1: more minutes on this and then return to the story tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Remember if you miss any part of the show, iHeart
Speaker 1: Spotify iTunes. All right, next hour we have all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff to get to the administrative state and layoffs
Speaker 1: and Marjorie Taylor and emails and other things. But back
Speaker 1: to our story here, all right. So these this society
Speaker 1: of miners and troops and things like that under Cecil Roads,
Speaker 1: they go into Zimbabwe. They strike an agreement with the king.
Speaker 1: This is the late eighteen hundreds. Remember eighteen nineties. I
Speaker 1: already told you there are two different African tribes here.
Speaker 1: There's more than two, but for the sake of simplicity,
Speaker 1: there's two major ones, the Endo Belly, the ruling tribe,
Speaker 1: and the Shona, the less powerful tribe. In eighteen ninety three,
Speaker 1: a tribal war breaks out. Now I need to set
Speaker 1: something up before the tribal war breaks out. I need
Speaker 1: to explain that in these early years for the settlers
Speaker 1: or colonizers or whatever you want to call them, for
Speaker 1: Cecil Roads in the Crew, this is not at all
Speaker 1: a pleasant time of plenty, not at all. This is
Speaker 1: a completely uncivilized place as far as civilization goes. For them,
Speaker 1: it's hard to get supplies in. They are having to
Speaker 1: essentially carve out civilization from nothing. And it's tough, sledden,
Speaker 1: very very very tough. So these are people, believe me,
Speaker 1: They're not sitting around being fanned by African slaves. They
Speaker 1: are working their fingers to the bone. There is disease,
Speaker 1: there is deprivation. It's very very hard. Now eighteen ninety three,
Speaker 1: these two tribes breakout in the war, I say a war,
Speaker 1: but as per usual, the Indobelly were more powerful at
Speaker 1: the time. In the ind of Belly start to slaughter
Speaker 1: the Shona who had been their slaves, and a different
Speaker 1: kind of a slaughter than the Europeans were used to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna refer to them as Europeans a lot, because
Speaker 1: that's mainly the background of these people. They watched children
Speaker 1: being burned alive by the end of Beelly. The end
Speaker 1: of Belly were given orders by their king, Hey, don't
Speaker 1: lay a finger on the Europeans. Go ahead, slaughter the Shona,
Speaker 1: kill them all. I don't care, but whatever you do,
Speaker 1: do not touch the Europeans. He was very aware that
Speaker 1: he was in a dangerous situation and should not offend
Speaker 1: the Europeans. But I remember that talk we had after
Speaker 1: hamas invaded Israel on October seventh, in what was a raid.
Speaker 1: Remember that talk we had about how there's a way
Speaker 1: of doing things, about how you're gonna have a hard
Speaker 1: time finding a sympathetic ear if you can't stop yourself
Speaker 1: from burning babies in an oven when people come across that,
Speaker 1: you're going to ruin your reputation. Let's just say the
Speaker 1: Indobelly ruined their reputation. They were essentially spearing pregnant women
Speaker 1: five feet away from Europeans. The Europeans are looking at
Speaker 1: this and they cannot believe what they're seeing. Now in defense,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm about to say this, in defense
Speaker 1: of the Indobelly who were doing the spearing and burning.
Speaker 1: That's how it had always been in Africa with these
Speaker 1: tribal wars. That's how tribal wars had always looked. That's
Speaker 1: how they'd always sounded. It was always slaughter, it was
Speaker 1: always horrible. They were doing what they had always done.
Speaker 1: But the Europeans certainly were not used to that way
Speaker 1: of living, and they certainly had not been introduced to
Speaker 1: it right in front of them. They are freaking mortified.
Speaker 1: The Europeans are mortified, and they decide, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: see we're gonna have to square things away here. The
Speaker 1: Europeans have had enough of this and they arm the army.
Speaker 1: I know the Indo Beelly have some guns already, but
Speaker 1: they didn't have something called the Maxim gun. The Maxim
Speaker 1: gun is one of the first known machine guns that
Speaker 1: was ever employed. And that war went about like you
Speaker 1: would expect. The Europeans step in and say, you guys
Speaker 1: are freaking savages and this is no longer your area.
Speaker 1: We are not going to handle that. We are not
Speaker 1: going to allow this. You're going to die. The Indobelly
Speaker 1: fight a war against the Europeans and it went about
Speaker 1: like you would expect. Yes, the Europeans lost a patrol,
Speaker 1: they got two cocky This twenty man patrol went out
Speaker 1: and got surrounded by a thousand Indebelli got slaughtered and
Speaker 1: it was ugly thing. But for the most part, the
Speaker 1: Europeans just absolutely mopped the floor with the Indo Belly,
Speaker 1: wipe them out gone, and in their minds, because of
Speaker 1: the slaughter they had witnessed before, they felt like they
Speaker 1: had every justification now to do what they'd always wanted.
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, it's what they always wanted, create
Speaker 1: a new colony, a new country. They were already colonizing it,
Speaker 1: but that gave them everything they needed to say, we
Speaker 1: are in charge now. King, you're no longer the king.
Speaker 1: You don't rule anything here. We Europeans, we now own
Speaker 1: this country. But this is a very very big country,
Speaker 1: a very very big country. At one point in our story,
Speaker 1: when when this uncharted becomes Rhodesia, and it's about to
Speaker 1: become Rhodesia tomorrow, they're going to have a two thousand
Speaker 1: mile border, two thousand miles. Don't think of this place
Speaker 1: as some tiny little place. It is a place that
Speaker 1: is gigantic, with mountains and rivers in thick woods, and
Speaker 1: it's a huge, huge place. There aren't that many of them.
Speaker 1: How do you start a country from what amounts to
Speaker 1: essentially nothing. You've got teachers, you've got doctors, you got miners,
Speaker 1: you got things like that, but you have to start
Speaker 1: the process of a whole new country. And that process
Speaker 1: begins tomorrow, and it'll be bloody too.