WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:04.559 Is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse 2 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:09.519 Kelly Show on a spectacular Tuesday. As we cruise through 3 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:13.640 this week, and I'm gonna level with you here, i 4 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.280 still have to on the show. I'm going to address 5 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.960 finally the Marjorie Taylor Green thing. I have to talk 6 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:25.920 about the administrative state and what that idiot KBJ said 7 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.280 in the Supreme Court about the administrative state and what 8 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:32.079 they're working on there. I have so much stuff I 9 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.560 still want to get to, but I don't know if 10 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:37.960 I'm going to get there for a while. In fact, 11 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:39.920 let me go and spoil it. I know I'm not 12 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:43.079 going to get there for the next hour. Maybe you 13 00:00:43.159 --> 00:00:46.560 are new to the Jesse Kelly Show, let me go 14 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.039 ahead and give it to you. I'm a history freak. 15 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.920 I am not a historian. I'm a stupid, uneducated Barbarian. 16 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.679 I was a marine and a construction worker. I went 17 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.759 to community college. I just love history. I have since 18 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.640 I was a child. I love history. I can't get 19 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:09.439 enough of it. And from time to time on this show, 20 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:16.480 I will basically stop all commentary, food, politics, life, and 21 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.560 I will just tell a history story of some kind. 22 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.439 I would say every month every two months. I do this. 23 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:31.040 Sometimes it's an hour, sometimes it's three hours. I try 24 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:33.400 to not take up the whole show with that. For 25 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:36.560 people who hate it, Well, we've kind of fallen into me, 26 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:40.040 Chris Corey, we've kind of fallen into this. Hour two. 27 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:42.959 We will do an hour and then we'll go back 28 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:46.079 to it. So here's the spoiler alert. The next hour 29 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:48.519 is going to be history. It is going to be 30 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:53.760 very applicable to America today, to communist insurgencies, world affairs, 31 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:58.400 military affairs. There's a lot we can apply. I'm going 32 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.799 to stop after an hour. We'll go back to the news. Tomorrow. 33 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.599 Hour two we're picking it up again, and we'll keep 34 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:07.599 doing it every day until I'm done with it. Okay, 35 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:13.800 But there is a conflict that is relatively recent, I 36 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:19.520 guess called the Rhodesian Bush War. But it is a conflict. 37 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:24.599 As I talk to people, some some know a lot 38 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:27.560 about there seems to be no in between. There are 39 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.680 people who know a lot about it, and there are 40 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:35.039 people who know nothing about it. Almost nobody seems to 41 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:38.000 know ah a little bit about it. Let me give 42 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.280 you the reason why, in my opinion, having spent quite 43 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.280 a while reading looking this up. It's been weeks I've 44 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:48.479 been digging into this. It takes place in Africa, so 45 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:53.000 it's clear across the globe. It wasn't. Now America was involved, 46 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.280 and we'll get to that, but it wasn't really an 47 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:59.280 American thing. So Americans are not going to pay as 48 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:04.439 much attention African wars in general, wars and famines and 49 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:07.680 things like that are so common to us as we 50 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:11.240 look at the news that one doesn't necessarily stand out 51 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.439 over the others, so we don't look into that. It's 52 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.919 just kind of one of those things that's gone by 53 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:22.800 most people. Another reason it goes by most Americans is 54 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.599 your teachers in your government schools, if that's what you 55 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.400 went to, and in your universities, if that's what you 56 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:36.639 went to, most likely were communists or communists adjacent. And 57 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:39.639 don't get me wrong, everybody at some point in time 58 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:44.560 in this story doesn't necessarily look great, but there was 59 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:47.560 a lot of communist involvement here. In fact, it was 60 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:52.439 the communists who destroyed Rhodesia, And therefore your fifth grade 61 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.120 social studies teacher probably doesn't want to bring it up 62 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.680 for the same reason they'll tell you two they're blue 63 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:59.800 in the face about Hitler, but they don't want to 64 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.439 really tell you about Mao and Stalin and all those 65 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:06.000 things because it makes communism look bad, all right, So 66 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.319 the people who don't know about it, those are kind 67 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.439 of the reasons people don't know about it. Now, why 68 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.240 the other extreme? And we got a bunch of emails 69 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.399 from people who are clearly Rhodesian bush war freaks. Why 70 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:25.680 the other extreme? It is so fascinating, it's so fascinating. 71 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:32.079 And because it's so fascinating in so many different ways, 72 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.920 you can be obsessed with it. What kind of ways. 73 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.279 Maybe you're a dude or even a chick who's into 74 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.639 military stuff. We're going to be talking about one of 75 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.480 the finest militaries, in my opinion, that has ever walked 76 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:50.800 the planet. Almost a spartan like society for reasons, I'll explain. Oh, 77 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:54.800 so maybe you're into tribal warfare, that kind of stuff. 78 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:58.759 I love that stuff too, as you know American Indians, 79 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:00.759 things like that. It's got all kinds of that. So 80 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:05.199 maybe military stuff is yours. Maybe political drama is your thing. 81 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:10.720 Maybe different forms of government are your thing. Maybe diplomacy itself. 82 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.319 This nation leaning on that nation, but they lean on 83 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:17.920 that nation. Whatever you happen to be into, it's in 84 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:21.839 this and you can just wade into this story and 85 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:24.160 not get near enough. I'm gonna break this down and 86 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:26.879 it's gonna take me a while. And I promise you, 87 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.720 promise you, if you are interested in what I'm talking 88 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.560 about now, if you go start picking up books, you 89 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.879 will learn so much more than I'm about to tell you. 90 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:40.399 You'll learn new stuff. It's amazing, all right. Now, Remember 91 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:44.199 when we did the Crappiest Country in the World, Crappiest 92 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.600 Country in the World tournament. How about we have Chris 93 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.240 sixteen countries, sixteen countries in the Crappiest Country in the 94 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:54.160 World tournament. One of those countries, maybe you remember, was 95 00:05:54.199 --> 00:06:01.600 a country named Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe. Huh, it's pretty rough. What 96 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:07.399 was wrong with Zimbabwe? Well, there's the whole fifty percent 97 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:13.279 unemployment thing. There's the whole you broke your arm, you 98 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.560 show up at the hospital and they don't have any 99 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:23.639 doctors thing. There's the no medicine, cabinets are empty, no 100 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:31.319 water in some places. It's so bad in Zimbabwe that people, 101 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:35.560 when they have the means to do so, regularly flee. 102 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:41.240 Now a truly truly terrible place. But that is interesting, 103 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.360 you see, because if you were to rewind to not again, 104 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:51.639 not ancient history, we'll call it nineteen sixty, Zimbabwe is 105 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:55.399 the wealthiest country in all of Africa. You know how 106 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.839 big Africa is, how many countries there are. It is 107 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.680 not just wealthy as in there's a couple rich guys. 108 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:08.639 Families are on paved roads, air conditioning, people drive jaguarres 109 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:16.439 up the road, wonderful modern schools, hospitals, universities. If I 110 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.920 were to put a blindfold on you right now and 111 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:22.879 rewind to the year nineteen sixty and put you in 112 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:25.480 any American city, you could look around and see what 113 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.600 life is like in a modern country. And then I 114 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.560 would have blindfold you again and teleport you over to 115 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.560 It was in Zimbabwe then, but to Zimbabwe of nineteen sixty. 116 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.639 You would not be able to tell the difference until 117 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.680 the people started to speak and you heard the accent. 118 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:48.160 So it was so wonderful in nineteen sixty. Why do 119 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:53.439 people flee now, starve to death? Now? Why aren't their doctors? 120 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:57.199 Why isn't their medicine. We're about to tell that story. 121 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:04.519 Let us rewind. We're gonna go back into this is early, early, 122 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:07.040 early that we're talking about the age of sailing ships. 123 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:10.439 I'm gonna have to give you details that I normally 124 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:13.519 don't give as I lay this out, because the base 125 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.480 of knowledge so many people have is lacking. Here. Don't 126 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.600 feel bad about that. Most people don't have it right. 127 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.439 So when I'm vague, it's because I've got too many 128 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.160 details coming for you later. Rewind all the way back 129 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.959 to the sailing ship age, the age of Christopher Columbus. 130 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:34.559 The European powers. European powers are starting to take these 131 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:39.360 wonderful sailing ships, and they're starting to cross the globe. 132 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:43.000 They're looking for things, they're looking to claim new lands, 133 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:47.759 they're looking to claim new resources. One of those super 134 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.440 powerful countries back then, which it's funny to think about 135 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.000 this now because they're not very powerful, was Portugal. Portugal 136 00:08:54.120 --> 00:09:00.080 was big. Portugal starts bouncing around Africa. They round the 137 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:04.919 southern tip of Africa and they start to move inland 138 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.039 a little bit, and they find this climate that is 139 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.360 kind of wonderful. When you think of Africa, you don't 140 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:15.440 think about it that way, right, You probably think about 141 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:19.440 thick jungle. Maybe you're thinking about the Sahara, these vast 142 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:22.480 sands and things like that. Of course those things exist, 143 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.399 but remember Africa is huge. It stands to reason there 144 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.600 would be parts of it where the climate is flat 145 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.840 out pretty friggin nice. Portugal finds this climate, try to 146 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.320 take this climate, and an African tribe we won't go 147 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.679 into the details of that, fights a valiant war and 148 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:46.039 bounces to Portuguese. Portugal says, hey man, we're out. Portugal leaves, 149 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.720 but the knowledge is there that there is kind of 150 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:54.600 this little honey hole towards southern Africa not too shabby. 151 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:59.440 From there, we will fast forward to the late eighteen hundreds. 152 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:04.720 A is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday. 153 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:08.600 You can email us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com 154 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:10.519 and I'm gonna get to some of those next hour 155 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:13.080 and stuff like that, but you're just joining us. We're 156 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.639 talking history, the Rhodesian Bush War. Don't worry, you only 157 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.600 miss ten minutes. This could be ten hours. I'm only 158 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.720 gonna do hour two tonight. Don't worry. We'll be back 159 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:24.000 to politics in it in forty five minutes or so. 160 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:29.320 So Africa, let's go to the late eighteen hundreds. Now 161 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:33.759 pause before we get to the late eighteen hundreds. There 162 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:38.679 were a warlike people who started stomping the other African 163 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:43.480 tribes in southern Africa back in the day. If I 164 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:47.919 were to ask you to name one African tribal warlord, 165 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:53.080 you would probably be able to name zero or one. 166 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.000 And the one you would probably name would be who 167 00:10:57.039 --> 00:11:02.480 do you know, Chris? Do you know Shaka Zulu? Shaka Zulu? Yeah, 168 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.200 I knew, you knew it. Most people know their name 169 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:07.679 when you say it. So what was Shaka Zulu's deal? 170 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:13.679 Shakazulu was this incredible warlike leader. He led the Zulus 171 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.639 in Africa. He revolutionized some things about combat back then. 172 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.039 We won't go into the details. It was their spears, 173 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.840 and the Africans were used to throwing their spears. They 174 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:31.480 can whatever. Shaka Zulu revolutionized some warlike things, and as 175 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.279 happens throughout history, including today, the more powerful people will 176 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:38.720 eventually begin conquering the less powerful people around them. He 177 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.679 starts beating up on everyone, all right. Eventually he has 178 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.080 somebody who breaks off from him. He essentially has some 179 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:51.919 one of his general's rebel. The general rebels and heads 180 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.000 north all right now. This is the first one of 181 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.480 the details I'm going to have to give you, And 182 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.639 the only reason I'm giving giving you this detail is 183 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.639 it's going to come up later. In fact, it's probably 184 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.440 going to come up multiple times. We're in the era 185 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:10.879 of Shakazulu and this is actually going to be a 186 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.240 thread that goes throughout the Rhodesian Bush War. The people 187 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:21.279 who break off are called the Indo Belly. The Indo Belly, 188 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:23.080 don't worry if you don't remember the name, but that 189 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:27.480 is the warlike tribe that broke off from Shakazulu. They 190 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:31.559 broke off, they went north. In case you're wondering, Shakazulu 191 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.000 pursued them. It kind of broke off the chase whatever. 192 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.879 They went north. Well, remember I already told you these 193 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:43.320 people were incredibly warlike military advancements, and they started slaughtering 194 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:48.360 and subjugating all the other tribes they came into contact with. 195 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.120 I'm not dogging on them. That's how life was then, 196 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.240 and frankly now we live in a world of conquest, 197 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:58.879 and it was ugly, and they ran across peaceful tribes 198 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:02.759 and slaughtered them or made them slaves. They come across 199 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:07.360 the area that is now known as Zimbabwe, and they 200 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:12.120 discover exactly what I just talked to you about earlier. Wow, 201 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:16.799 it's uh, it's kind of nice here. I think I'll stay. 202 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:20.360 And because they were more powerful than the other tribes, 203 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.039 they moved in and set up shop. Now for the 204 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.360 only other tribe, I swear on my life, I'm only 205 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.639 going to give you two tribes because they're the two 206 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:31.200 main ones. I could bring other ones to you, but 207 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.440 it would only bore you and you would hate your life. 208 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:38.799 The Shona the Shona, two tribes into belly and Shona 209 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:42.960 into belly and shonah with me. This is really going 210 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.720 to matter for later on, the Indo belly move in 211 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:54.799 and they subjugate the Shona. The Shona become the indobelly slaves, 212 00:13:55.600 --> 00:14:00.679 and it can be okay slavery, Remember where slavery can 213 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:04.679 run the gamut throughout history. Sometimes slavery means, hey, you 214 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.679 don't get paid, but you're the math tutor for my son. 215 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.799 Here's a nice warm bed, go feed the horses and 216 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:14.279 teach my son algebra. And sometimes slavery can be we'll 217 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.039 work you to death in the salt mines. You'll probably 218 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.559 die six months from now, right, it can run the gamut. 219 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:21.919 This also could run the gamut. Believe me when I 220 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:25.000 tell you the Shona people had no rights whatsoever. You 221 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:27.559 did never say in your government. They were slaves in 222 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:30.360 every way, and in a lot of ways they were pillaged. 223 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.679 But they did come to some sort of an existence 224 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:36.679 where the Shona understood there were slaves. The end of 225 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:40.879 Belly were ruling Zimbabwe. I'm going to continue to refer 226 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:43.519 to this area as Zimbabwe until it turns to Rhodesia. 227 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.799 So just hang with me. Remember this as a disclaimer, 228 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.200 it was not Zimbabwe at the time. There was nothing 229 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.759 at this time nothing. There was no nation of any 230 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:56.120 kindess or just tribes. Let's fast forward now to the 231 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:59.600 eighteen hundreds to layed eighteen hundreds. The end of Belly 232 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:04.120 are still ruling this area. Some guys want to go 233 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.919 hunt some game in this area controlled by the End 234 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.399 of Beelly. Everyone in Africa knew by now the Indobelly 235 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.799 we're calling the shots there. These hunters didn't want to 236 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.360 be disrespectful and they didn't want to end up on 237 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:20.399 the business end of a spear. So they stopped by 238 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:23.120 the headquarters of the Indibelly king and they said Hey, 239 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:27.000 you've got a lot of animals we want to shoot here. 240 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:29.759 Can you mind if we give you a little this 241 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:32.600 little that, you know, they exchange some goods. If it's 242 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.440 okay with you, we're gonna go hunt. The King of 243 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.559 the Endobelly said, hey, thanks for the gifts. I appreciate it. Yeah, 244 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.559 go shoot some game. The guys take off. They go 245 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.399 have a good time hunting in Africa. But they find something, 246 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.879 and it's so funny how life works. Sometimes one little 247 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:54.000 discovery can lead to so many other things. The hunters 248 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:59.080 keep running into tribal peoples and they're were in gold, 249 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:03.759 not just one little gold thing, They're wearing a lot 250 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.879 of gold. The hunters go back, actually they go to 251 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.320 South Africa, South Africa, south of this and they start 252 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.840 talking to people about what they discovered and what their 253 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:21.080 plan was. Continue in a moment. It is the Jesse 254 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.279 Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday. If you miss 255 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:29.120 any part of the show, you can download it on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. 256 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:31.799 And it was just talking to Jewish producer Chris about 257 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:35.000 this during the break. Obviously Christmas is coming up, and 258 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:37.720 you know how it works in radio, The reason your 259 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:40.320 favorite radio host is gone for a couple of weeks 260 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:43.720 at Christmas, your favorite TV host is gone, podcast or 261 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:47.120 whoever is. Because this is the time of year where 262 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:50.320 they essentially force you to leave. All the advertisers leave, 263 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.519 people are off work, nobody listens, so they say, don't 264 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:57.200 come in. Don't come in obviously around Christmas. I have 265 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:00.200 to take time too. This is gonna be some thing 266 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.000 you could go back and listen to a couple of times. 267 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.039 Listen to with the kids. When you miss me, I 268 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:06.079 will be back. I'm gonna miss you too, trust me, 269 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:10.200 I'm gonna miss you too. Back to our story, it's 270 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.359 the late eighteen hundreds. Some hunters just got back from 271 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:19.359 Zimbabwe and they found gold, and, as the saying goes, 272 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.880 loose lips sink ships. Because the hunters got back from 273 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.759 Zimbabwe and they had done something very smart before they left. 274 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.880 They went to the king and they said, hey, we 275 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:35.160 kind of like this gold stuff you have going. Would 276 00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:38.599 you mind if we come back and take some of that. 277 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:41.319 We're gonna give you a cut. We're not trying to 278 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:43.799 do you wrong. We're gonna give you a cut. We'll 279 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.880 bring you this, we'll bring you that. But is it Okay, 280 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.559 it'll be really small if we come back and get 281 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.079 some of that gold. The king of the end of Belly, 282 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.480 the ruling tribe at the time, said, ah, sure, knock 283 00:17:55.519 --> 00:18:00.759 yourself out. Go ahead, okay, the hunter get back to 284 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:05.440 South Africa. Now I need to pause for a moment, 285 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.079 and I'm probably gonna end up doing this a couple times, 286 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.359 but I need to explain the geography of what we're 287 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:16.160 talking about because it's going to matter a lot. So 288 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:17.440 what I want you to do is I want you 289 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.599 to make a circle in your mind. Don't worry. You 290 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:21.039 don't have to write it down. You can if you 291 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:25.759 want a circle. This circle you just made is a clock, 292 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:33.440 all right, a clock. Now from about six o'clock to 293 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:42.400 about eight o'clock that border is South Africa to the 294 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:49.799 south kind of the southwest. From six o'clock all the 295 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:56.200 way to about twelve o'clock that is Mozambique. That is 296 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.079 going to be huge for the purposes of our story. 297 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.200 But I'll come back to it to work about memorizing that. Now. 298 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:05.759 The other two countries are not as important. Just know 299 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:09.319 that north because it will come up is Zambia, all right. 300 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:15.400 Zambia Mozambique, South Africa. The hunters go back to South 301 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:20.720 Africa six and eight o'clock. Okay. Instead of shutting their 302 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:25.000 mouths about the gold in the agreement they got, they 303 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:28.599 start to talk. And that was a really bad idea 304 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:32.720 because there was a man in South Africa who had 305 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:37.519 an unbelievable amount of money and power and Hu wanted 306 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.799 more of it. And his name was Cecil Roads or 307 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.880 Cecil Roads. All these names are pronounced differently depending on 308 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.200 what you're listening to a reading. I'm gonna call him 309 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.480 Cecil Roads because that was the most common who was 310 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:53.400 Cecil Roads. First, he was a brit The Brits are 311 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:55.839 going to play a huge part. This is a British story, 312 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:00.000 really a British story. He was a major, major power 313 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:05.519 player in Britain, super wealthy guy. Now what's he doing 314 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:09.400 over there? Well, this is the late eighteen hundreds. Britain 315 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:15.119 is aware that most of their colonial age has probably 316 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.599 passed it by, but they haven't given up the game yet. 317 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:21.880 They still want to find other lands, far off lands 318 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.079 to take over, to mind, to find a place for 319 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:28.640 their people to you know, they're an empire that likes 320 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:34.000 to expand Britain also had something else they did, and 321 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:36.799 they did it very very well, very successfully. Multiple times 322 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:42.680 throughout their history they would almost allow their conquests to 323 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:47.960 be privatized in a way where you can go conquer 324 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.640 this land. No, no, take some British people raise an 325 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:53.960 army if you like. In fact, we want you to, 326 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:59.599 and you have our permission, but we're not really officially 327 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:02.359 do it. You see, we're washing our hands of it. 328 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:04.960 If you would like to go do something and it 329 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:08.000 works out, we'll be there to help out and of 330 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:14.079 course take over in the end. Cecil Rhoads he essentially 331 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:19.839 steals this agreement from these hunters, and Cecil Rhodes decides 332 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:24.720 he likes the idea of this Zimbabwe place, he likes 333 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:28.799 the climate. He thinks agriculture could get big there. Mining 334 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:30.839 is very clearly going to get big there. And by 335 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.119 the way, Zimbabwe ended up being really big on things 336 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.200 like chrome and stuff like that. But Cecil Rhoads is 337 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:40.519 one of these you'd call him a billionaire type conquistador 338 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.640 is essentially what he was. So Central Road or Cecil 339 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.680 Rhoades does something. He goes to the King of Zimbabwe, 340 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.680 the exact same king, the miners had dealt with and 341 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.319 he in a way, I guess, rips him off. Maybe 342 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.519 maybe not. Here's how the deal went. Hey, you know 343 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:03.279 how these we're gonna mine a little bit here, We're not. 344 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.519 We'd like to mine a lot here. And I understand 345 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:10.240 your concerns about this, King, I'd totally get that it's 346 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:13.839 your land. Wanna be clear it's your land. Just to 347 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.039 prove to you that it's your land. Because we're gonna 348 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:20.240 be bringing all these people through here. We'll build you 349 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:22.400 some roads. We're gonna have roads and stuff like that. 350 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:26.519 We're gonna give you some guns as well. They didn't 351 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.119 necessarily specify the age of the guns. But these are 352 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.839 people with shields and spears. Hey, King, I know you 353 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:36.480 like to rule over the people around you. How about 354 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:41.279 some superior weaponry. They even promised him they would bring 355 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.079 him a gun boat that went up the river. They 356 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:47.759 didn't end up delivering on the gunboat, but they did 357 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:51.880 bring some guns. The king call him naive, but Hindsights 358 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:54.960 twenty twenty says, you know what I like the sounds 359 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:57.759 of that. I want some roads. I want some guns. 360 00:22:58.119 --> 00:23:06.039 Come on in roads, raises what essentially amounts to an 361 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:10.079 entire civil society for this invasion. When I say civil society, 362 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:13.279 I mean there are troops, but there are more than troops. 363 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:18.319 There are doctors, there are lawyers, there are miners, are 364 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:23.000 there's really every major aspect of the society you can 365 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.160 think of, if any society you can think of, certainly 366 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:30.720 a modern society. Cecil Roads raises these people from South Africa, 367 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:34.160 from Britain, they come from all other places. But this 368 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:36.400 is actually going to be an important part of the 369 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.039 story as well. I find it fascinating. It's almost like 370 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.559 a like a weird society that was grown in a lab. 371 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:50.400 He wasn't grabbing the dregs of every society. He wasn't 372 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:54.359 emptying the prisons or grabbing this guy who who was 373 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:59.640 down on his luck. He actually went to the high 374 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:06.680 class society, people established families, wealthy families, educated people, and 375 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.319 he said, hey, your son's a doctor, Come on down, Hey, 376 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:14.960 do you want a lot of farmland your daughter? He 377 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:19.400 took what essentially amounted to the cream of the crop 378 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:25.680 and invaded Zimbabwe with the permission of the king, with 379 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.240 all of these people, and he starts carving roads in 380 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:35.279 is Zimbabwe. He starts building armies This is all done 381 00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:38.920 with the permission of the British Crown. And again it's 382 00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.000 just cheaper and easier for the British Crown to say, hey, cecil, 383 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.680 have at it. You have our permission. We're not gonna bother. 384 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.960 We're we're not sending our people. You just go and 385 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.680 they this society will call it five hundred people because 386 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.359 that's roughly how many he came and with originally walk 387 00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:59.799 into this country, totally foreign country. You have a king, 388 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.440 this tribe, and the king has a slave tribe that's 389 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:06.160 under him, and you have all this other stuff, and 390 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:10.680 they start hacking out a living in the middle of 391 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.680 this wild African land. It wasn't again known as Zimbabwe 392 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:16.519 at this time, but they would have one day be 393 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:23.680 known as Zimbabwe. Now. There eventually began to be some 394 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:28.799 chafing with the relationships. We'll talk about some chafing. Next 395 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:35.839 is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic, fantastic Tuesday. 396 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:40.200 We are almost to the end of our our first 397 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.480 hour on the Rhodesian Bush, where I know it's the 398 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:45.319 second hour of the show. I'm just gonna do ten 399 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.839 more minutes on this and then return to the story tomorrow. 400 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.599 Remember if you miss any part of the show, iHeart 401 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.960