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little bit about political violence. I'm sure you have heard
over the last week and a half, two weeks or so,
since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, we've been getting a
lot of the whataboutisms from the media and the Democrats.
But I repeat myself, and they've been waving around various
reports and studies that show right wing violence is way
more prevalent than left wing violence.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, now I have compiled, let's say, here, one, two, three,
or five reports on why those studies are crap, because
they are. If you actually go into the methodology and
you look at the way the studies were compiled, how
the data was used, you realize very quickly that they
were juiced. The stats are juiced. So, for example, Tim
Krney at the Washington Examiner, he says, it turns out
that if you count the J six riots but not
the Black Lives Matter riots, then the right is infinitely
more violent than the left. That's a pretty good way,
right of counting stats. If you're looking to pad right
wing violence, you count every arrest connect did to J six,
and you ignore completely the entire summer of fiery but
mostly peaceful rioting and looting, because that was for social
justice that wasn't really tied to the left. Right, after
Charlie Kirk was murdered, liberals rushed to deny that left
wing political violence is a problem and claim that the
real problem is right wing domestic terrorism. At their disposal,
Democrats in Congress and the media had multiple studies supposedly
proving that right wingers are responsible for many times more
political killings, attacks, and hate incidents then left wingers as
well as Islamists combined. Actually, if you combine the lefties
and the Islamists, you put them together, it's still not
as much. Okay, So there are four studies that they've
been relying on. They purport to count and compare extremist
or political violence by the different sides. We'll take a
look at them. The first problem that you have to
overcome is what actually counts as extremist violence and political violence.
That's a judgment call in a lot of these cases, right,
because who's really motivated by ideology over madness? For example,
out over insanity. Some calls are pretty easy, to be sure,
but on the tough calls, the researchers aired on the
side that would support their ideological prior suppositions. So, for example,
you've got the most egregious one is the Prosecution Project
that is the brainchild of University of Cincinnati Assistant Professor
Michael Lodenthal. Loadenthal is a left wing academic. One of
his papers is titled Operations Splashback Queering Animal Liberation through
the Contributions of neo insurrectionist queers. That's one of his papers.
He sees his job as inculcating a quote decolonial framework
into his students thinking Queering the Nation is another way
he describes his life's work. Oh, also, he is explicitly
pro violence. His central goal is to quote advance the
argument that violence as a response to colonialism is not
just expected, but it is just that's the prosecution project.
I'm going to get into the data too. Then there's
the Anti Defamation League the ADL, run by Jonathan Greenblatt,
a former political appointee of Barack Obama. Under his leadership,
the ADL has ventured far away from its purported aim
of fighting anti Semitism and has become more purely partisan
and ideological. For example, they petition the courts to force
the Little Sisters of the Poor, which is a bunch
of Catholic nuns, to violate the consciences their conscience and
provide contraception coverage to their employees. And then there was
the Cato study done by a libertarian to be sure,
but on immigration stuff his main concern, and that's his
main concern, he says. And the guy's name is Naaratseh
no Rasteh. Anyway, he describes himself as a globalist and elitist.
He describes himself as that, and he often ends up
on the Democrat side of things in the era of
Trump because of the immigration stance that Trump has. So
if you go through let's take the ADL first, you
go through their methodology. They don't claim to be tracking
political murders, but murders by people associated with a variety
of domestic extremist movements. Okay, now that may sound like
a thin distinction, but it actually matters a lot. A
political murder, for example, would be the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Murders by people associated with a variety of domestic extremist movements, well,
that's a larger category. So for example, if a KKK
member murders his wife, that is a murder by a
person associated with a domestic extremist movement, and that gets
counted in the column for the right wingers. It turns
out this sort of a political murder by extremist associated
people is a massive portion of the ADL study. Any
kind of a crime committed by anybody with clan tattoos,
they get lumped in with the right, even though it
could be a domestic call. It has nothing to do
with political ideology. The Washington Post columnist Megan mccardal deconstructed
the ADL study and suggested that ADL overrepresented white supremacist killings.
Violent criminals in prison have incentives to join gangs, which
are usually if the TV shows and movies are any
indication right. They're usually along racial lines. Those who join
the white gangs, they get the tattoos, then they leave prison,
and then any violent crime they commit afterwards counts as
right wing violence. ADL includes plenty of non ideological yet
extremist associated killings. They say that extremists may commit a murder,
the motive for which is never revealed. We include all
these types of killings in this report, So even when
they don't know the motive, they still throw it into
the right wing category. Half of the killings that they
tracked over the last decade are non ideological and those
are disproportionately classified as right wing killings. And there's more.
It consistently tosses ambiguous cases when they don't have any information,
they throw them in with the right wingers too. And
then there's the stuff that they don't include it all. Like,
for example, Daryl Brooks, black guy, budding rapper, drove a
car into a Christmas parade in Walkshaw, Wisconsin, killing six
people and injuring dozens. He was a supporter of BLM.
Facebook profile had a whole bunch of racisty stuff all
over it. Where did this BLM supporter murdering white people
show up in their study. It did not. It is
simply never mentioned. Or how about the twenty eight year
old woman who identified as a man who went into
the Christian school and killed six kids? Not in the
report either, not left wing violence. You see, right, this
is the pattern. This is replicated in all of these studies,
the same sort of methodological corruption. There's another study csis
they excluded violence at protests, but they did make an
exception for that rule and included the Charlottesville protests. Right.
Violence at BLM ignored, violence at Proud Boy protests counted. Likewise,
riots excluded except for one January sixth. See, you only
get this if you dive into the data, if you
go and look at their source material and their methodology.
And when you start looking at that stuff, you realize
very quickly that they've got a massive thumb on the
scale here.
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the stats. Breaking down these studies claiming most political violence's
right wing brought you Tim Carney's breakdown from the Washington Examiner.
Here's David Harsani at The New York Post talking about
the ADL's most recent murder and Extremism in the US survey.
They claim there were thirteen murders motivated by extremism in
the country last year. Eleven of them. They say eleven
to thirteen committed by right wingers. Okay, if you actually
look at the incidents that they cite as being committed
by white supremacists or far right anti government extremists, virtually
none of those incidents actually have any political motivation. The
list includes murders that occurred during attempted prison escapes that's
not a political motivation, a sex crime, a robbery, a
family squabble. None of those have anything to do with
furthering the tenets of white supremacy, or actually any cause.
In one of these supposedly right wing extremist incidents, the
police have yet to find a motive at all for
the homicide. The only characteristic that qualifies all of these
acts as right wing is the perpetrators being identified as
possible white supremacists, which is usually because they've got tattoos.
And I already went over that with the prison connection.
One of the eleven murders classified as right wing on
the list. Sorry, one of the eleven murders that was
classified as right wing on the list was the perpetrator
clearly inspired by ideology. One. On the other hand, the
assassination of Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare that
was explicitly ideological in nature. The shooter wrote an anti
capitalist manifesto, So you would think, well, that would be
equal then one for one. Right, if we're taking a
body count here, then that seems like that would be
a one for one comparison.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, the ADL did not characterize the murder of Brian
Thompson as a left wing attack. It did not include
it in its list of extremist murders at all, didn't
even make the list. The most famous example is the
Global Terrorism Database, which is widely used by the researchers
who compile these reports, which counted the Las Vegas mass
shooter who murdered fifty nine people back in twenty seventeen.
We still don't know anything about that guy or why
he did it, but he's labeled as an anti government extremist.
In truth, we don't know what his motivations are, unless,
of course, the Global Terrorism Database somehow got some inside
information from the FBI. Of the thirty two other incidents
that the organization labeled as right wing terrorism that year,
twelve were merely suspected of being on the right because
they were white, even if the ADL's list is more accurate.
It is worth noting that a gang member with a
swastika tattoo might be a right winger and often violent,
but he is, despite the contentions of the left, ideologically
miles away from popular conservatism. Right white supremacists are not conservatives.
They're not the leftist who assassinated Charlie Kirk Harbard ideas
that were not alien to the average progressive. No honest
person contends that right wing extremists don't exist, or that
all progressives are accessories to violence. But it's plainly obvious
that groups like the ADL have concocted misleading reports to
smear the right and hide their own sides increasing radicalism.
Next the federalist Beth Brelgi. She talks a little bit
about the prosecution project here. And remember the guy Michael Lodenthal,
openly anarchist, anti affiliated researcher at the University of Cincinnati, who,
by his own admission, is a far less far left,
violent extremist. He admits this, So he's the researcher, He's
the one that compiled the study. Do you think he
may have a bit of a bias when creating the
I idea that there is this massive number of right
wing violence versus left wing violence. Let's see here. The
Prosecution Project lists January twenty twenty four charges against John
Reardan of Massachusetts, who made anti Semitic threats against synagogues
and the Israeli Consulate. It notes, influenced by events in Gaza.
He also said, you do realize that by supporting genocide,
that means it's okay for people to commit genocide against you.
That's what the That's what the person said. The DOJ
never identified his political affiliation, but the Prosecution Project's own
accounts seemed to indicate he was a pro Palestine fanatic,
which is not a cause of the right wingers, but
they put him in the right wing camp. The group
also lists twenty twenty two Freedom of Access to Clinic
Entrances Act charges against mean Edmi Schavanis. This was abortion
clinic protester, but she was found not guilty on that
one charge, but they put her in the list anyway.
They included the posting of racist stickers as if that's
comparable to terrorism or violence. Comb through the data on
their website and you soon conclude it's worthless to everyone
except a leftist propagandist. I mentioned the cat excuse me,
the Cato Institute. They're study by Alex noratsa debunked last
week by Amber Duke at The Daily Caller. He claimed
politically motivated violence is rare in the US, but that
when it happens, right wingers are more often to blame
than the left. If here's a big if. If you
exclude nine to eleven, which why would you do that? Oh?
Also you exclude injury, property damage, and people who were
not killed. So his criteria excludes the two assassination attempts
on Donald Trump, for example. He a Duke Also Amber
Duke at The Daily Caller also found that some of
the crimes that he blamed on the right were at
best questionable and at worst just flat out wrong. I
am through three. I have two more to go. That
tear apart these quote unquote studies stick around. Game on
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counting of right wing violence reminds me of the counting
of COVID deaths. If somebody died of cancer but had
COVID cause of death listed as COVID. Now that's a
fair point, right. It's lies, damn lies and statistics. You
always have to look at the methodology on these things.
This story from The Washington Examiner by Mia Kathel or
Kethel cathl Anyway, Cato Institute. According to the data set,
right aligned actors are responsible for six times the total
number of deaths compared to the perps on the political left.
The figures, however, leave out thousands of fatalities from nine
to eleven, treating the mass casualties as an outlier, because
otherwise they would quote dominate the data and obscure other trends.
There's too many deaths linked to the Islamists, and so
when doing this survey or study on ideological inspired violence,
we have to take that out because we don't need
that obscuring the real picture. But another large scale terrorist
attack does get counted by CATO. Do you know which one?
It was Oklahoma City bombing nineteen ninety five, one hundred
and sixty eight people murdered by a white supremacist. So
if you're going to you know, not factor in nine
to eleven, if you like, that's going to skew the
numbers eighty So if you if you factor it in,
eighty seven percent would account that would be eighty seven
percent of the politically motivated violence would be Islamist eighty
seven percent. But you take it out, and now Islamism's
tally goes to just twenty three percent. And here's the
other impact is that it then skews the numbers of
right and left because you've taken out this large data set,
and so that inflates the radical rights murder record from
eleven percent when you take into account nine to eleven,
and then it zooms up to sixty three percent more
than Islamists, which is stupid. The research is ideological definitions
of what constitutes right or left wing radicalism place involuntary
celibacy in cells. Have you heard this? In cell? It's
online subculture primarily sharing misogynistic views. They put that on
the right. Problem is that a twenty twenty two University
of Texas pull of in cell identifying participants and asked
about their political orientation. Forty five percent considered themselves to
be on the left, thirty nine percent said right, eighteen
percent said centrist, but in cells get all lumped into
the right. The studies list of killers categorized the Antioch
High School shooter as right wing, but that shooter was
a black seventeen year old identified as in cell expressed
anti Semitic, nihilistic, and occult beliefs. The guy who shot
up the two spas in a massage parlor in Atlanta,
which refronts for prostitution. He was ashamed of his sex addiction.
He was not of the right and the data timelines
also go back to nineteen seventy five and So what
happens then is that you cut out all of the
far left violence like the Weather Underground and their bombing
of the US Capitol and Set seventy one, the bombing
of the Pentagon in seventy two, and itt Incorporated in
nineteen seventy three. Right, all of that stuff gets chopped out,
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Did you know that? I did not until this very moment.
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They've hung them in the white or it's actually like
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On the backside of the auto pen is Al Gore
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