1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,439 Speaker 1: Yo, what is up? 2 00:00:01,439 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 2: Boys? How's it going? And welcome back to another episode 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,919 of the Rant Cafe Anime podcast. Today we're talking about 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works, which we're forcing Recon 5 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:14,160 to watch. Me and Jordan have already watched Face Day 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,359 Night Unlimited blae Works probably a couple of times, so 7 00:00:16,399 --> 00:00:19,039 we are checking out some other Fates that Ricon told 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,800 us to watch. It didn't be more of a focus 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,320 on Fate Day Night Unlimited Blade Works. But we are we. 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,960 I mean I only watched a handful of four or 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,160 five episodes, maybe six episodes of Elia, but we're mainly 12 00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:31,879 talking about Fate Day Night Night, Unlimited Blade Works. Let's 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,799 jump into that first. What's up guys, Jordan recone, what up? 14 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: What? Oh? 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: Happy to be here. But I guess before we start 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,719 on Unlimited Blade Works and now that's what you want 17 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:42,840 to start with. But kid, we confirmed, did you at 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,960 least watch six episodes of Illia six? 19 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: I think I technically watched more than six episodes. 20 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,679 Speaker 1: You didn't do your homework. 21 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: This is different. I watched the entire I watched the 22 00:00:53,679 --> 00:00:56,320 entire Face Day Night, Unlimited Blade Works. I rewatched the 23 00:00:56,439 --> 00:00:58,399 entire Fate Day night Unlimited Blade Works for this, even 24 00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:00,759 though we only need the first twelve, just saying what 25 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:03,520 I respected. But since we didn't really need to do that, 26 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,719 I did say, let's me and reconcert, me and Jordan 27 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:07,280 to check out some of the worse ones. And it 28 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:12,400 was worse. Oh boy, Okay, we'll talk about we'll we'll 29 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:15,560 talk about that in a little bit, but let's talk 30 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,959 about the first half of Unlimited Blade Works. General thoughts 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,879 to start off. 32 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: All right, so I did my homework this time. I've 33 00:01:24,439 --> 00:01:28,239 watched all thirteen episodes of the first season of Unlimited 34 00:01:28,239 --> 00:01:32,840 Blade Works on two times, no, three times speed. 35 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,239 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a little crazy. Three times and now I'm joking. 36 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm joking. 37 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:36,719 Speaker 3: I'm joking. 38 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm I'm a believer in like one point two five 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,560 one point five. 40 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:43,159 Speaker 1: I watched it about at one point two sorry one 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,359 point five. But general thoughts, overall, it's right, although it 42 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:53,719 did remind me a lot about one certain series. I 43 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:57,040 probably shouldn't really do this comparison, but I'm gonna anyways. 44 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,200 May I might piss people off, but who cares. But 45 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,599 this show reminds me a lot about handshakers. For some reason, 46 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:13,199 I don't know. Why the premise is very similar. Now granted, 47 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:17,960 now listen, listen, listen. Granted, Blade Works came out first, 48 00:02:18,719 --> 00:02:21,120 but I haven't really watched any Fate series, so I'm 49 00:02:21,159 --> 00:02:23,520 just making a comparison straight out of like what I've 50 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,360 watched before, but very similar premise in which you know, 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,520 people bomb together and fight against other people in order 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,280 to get to become winners and get that wish. Kind 53 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,120 of the same thing with the with the Holy Grail 54 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:38,520 war set up here. But yeah, but I hate that. 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: You're not wrong that there's a reason started the last bracket, right, Like. 56 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,719 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna piss people off with this with this, 57 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,159 but to me, Fate Stay Night Elemented Blade Works is 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,240 like a better Handshakers, if you know what I mean, 59 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:54,400 Like much much better. 60 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 3: You know what, that could have been worse, you know, 61 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:00,080 I'll take it way around. I feel like that, but 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,960 would have got the people going, that would have been provocative. 63 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:06,000 But no, I don't think that's too far out there 64 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,400 of a comparison to say. 65 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: I think it's the Fairst solid comparison. I just hope 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,240 I don't piss people off with it. 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,599 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about some things you liked some things 68 00:03:14,599 --> 00:03:20,960 you disliked, maybe some characters you liked, et cetera. All right, question, 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,319 if we weren't forcing you to watch this, would you 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,960 continue watching it? No, that's crazy. But I know for 71 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:29,759 a fact you're just going to force me to watch 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,240 that or we are watching the second season, because I 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,199 do think the second season is better than the first season. 74 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:35,719 I think it gets better as it goes. 75 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:39,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, And I told ricon this a little 76 00:03:39,719 --> 00:03:41,960 bit right before we started Briggs, but I think there's 77 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 a lot of things like this in Fate where Fait 78 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:46,000 zero is kind of the same way, where the first 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,960 season there's so much info there that there's a lot 80 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,240 of setup, right, there's a lot of moving parts with 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,960 a lot of different characters, and they have to set 82 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,639 things up. And then the second season is usually the 83 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:57,000 one that's more of a fan favorite because so much 84 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,560 is actually happening, right, Like it's all actually playing out 85 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:03,159 so hopefully hopefully it's the same here, whereas it's like 86 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,719 it's the setup that was a probably the slow parts 87 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:06,960 of it. 88 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,199 Speaker 2: Someone in chat I exist in chat says I don't 89 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,360 understand Recon's taste anymore. I know, right, I feel like 90 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:16,959 this has Wi Fu's. This has high quality animation and 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,480 good fight scenes. It's got cool, badass moments. I'm surprised 92 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,240 that he's not loving it. 93 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it's okay, I guess so far. I don't 94 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:29,800 know about the second season, but it's just my personal opinion. 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,120 It's okay so far. But the animation is gorgeous. That's 96 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:36,680 that's the probably my favorite thing about this show because 97 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,000 of because it's spice to you, you votable. It's just 98 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:40,800 gorgeous to look at. 99 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,319 Speaker 3: But very good. 100 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,439 Speaker 1: Mhm. 101 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,079 Speaker 3: The fight they're good, the backgrounds are good, et cetera. 102 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,079 Everything's so pretty. 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,959 Speaker 2: What do you think of our main character, shiro Emia? 104 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so I told this to Jordan already before you 105 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,759 even joined joined. But I'm not really a big fan 106 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,120 of him. 107 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. 108 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: He just has huge he gives me the the He 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,680 just has so much deco energy. Man, I don't know why. 110 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: He just has so much deco energy. 111 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: He's it's just a weak, puny, fucking high schooler who 112 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,920 just gets given powers after wielding the sword I think 113 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:26,879 saber sword for the first time when he summoned her, 114 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:29,800 and then he just gets granted power by being the Master. 115 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,920 I'm like, oh, it's decor all over again. Man. 116 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: I mean, every every Master and and Fate is going 117 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,600 to have like the power of their servant to an 118 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,279 extent right and things like that. 119 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:43,639 Speaker 2: But I guess so, I don't remember Shiro ever wielding 120 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,279 Sabers sword. If anything, he he's able to manifest the 121 00:05:47,319 --> 00:05:50,399 same two swords as Archer after watching him. 122 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: Know if it was her sword, but he grabbed a 123 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,720 sword to fight back and doing the first episode and 124 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:58,920 then again. 125 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: It gets the someone's spirit against the servant, just the 126 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:03,920 high schooler throwing hands right or swords in the case. 127 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: I will yes, I will say that's one positive to 128 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:10,800 the original Fate State Night version as well. Face Day 129 00:06:10,879 --> 00:06:14,879 Night Unlimited Blade Works is great. It's better. I like 130 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,680 the Fate Day Night version for some small reasons. It 131 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,279 almost doesn't make sense. But in Face Day Night, he 132 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,240 actually puts on more. He puts up more of a 133 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,199 fight against Lancer, like he he he hangs in there 134 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,639 for more, blows, a little bit more of a fight. 135 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,120 It's a little bit drawn out, a little bit more 136 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,439 against Lancer, who compared to what he does in Face 137 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:37,160 Stay Day Night Unlimited Blade Works. But it's still cool 138 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:41,120 and blade works. Yeah, he was getting trained. He was 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,600 getting trained with a wooden sword from Saber. Yes, and 140 00:06:43,639 --> 00:06:44,439 he ended up being. 141 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,759 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's right. He's a what is he in 142 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,519 the kendo club? 143 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,199 Speaker 2: I think kendo? I think Sabers is training him. Sabers 144 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:54,560 just training him. But he ended up being better with. 145 00:06:56,439 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 3: Oh I was saying. He ended up getting his butt whooped, 146 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:00,199 and he's like, I want to get stronger, right. He's 147 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,480 definitely a hard working guy, very diligent, very Uh it's 148 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:04,959 not like he was giving a lot of guidance on 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,839 the path of a mage. But he's a very weak mage. 150 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,439 But he's been doing that thing that he does every 151 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:12,680 day for so long and uh yeah, yeah. I don't know. 152 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,319 I like Hiro as a character, right, I don't know. 153 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,000 I feel like he gets to flack. 154 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting. I feel like I never used 155 00:07:19,279 --> 00:07:21,560 to like Shiro as a character because he was He's 156 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,360 obviously very like naive and like to get people taking 157 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:26,759 advantage of him. He's a bit on the weaker side. 158 00:07:26,959 --> 00:07:28,519 I feel I didn't like him when I was young. 159 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,439 Now that I'm older, upon rewatch, I'm liking him a 160 00:07:31,439 --> 00:07:34,839 lot more because he knows that he's being taken advantage of. 161 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,120 He's just a good guy and will do it anyway. 162 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:41,639 There's there's there's little things that I appreciate more upon rewatching. Now. 163 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,519 Speaker 3: He's a very interesting character because I think he's well written. 164 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,279 But I could see why people would find him annoying 165 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,279 because he is that goody goody two shoes to like 166 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:55,000 a to a like cartoonishly exaggerated extent. Right as far 167 00:07:55,079 --> 00:08:00,279 as Rinn even says at one point, I believe like 168 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,959 she perspects like how kind he is, but she like 169 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,839 still degrades like how selfless he is, right, because he 170 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,079 really does have that like survivor's guilt from his tragic backstory, 171 00:08:10,519 --> 00:08:12,920 and like because of that, like he he wants to 172 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,360 save everybody he doesn't, like, he feels guilty for the 173 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:18,839 fact that he's alive, so he wants to save everybody else. 174 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,120 And there's not really any uh you know that doesn't 175 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,000 really go with reality as we know it, right, So 176 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,240 it's like the clash of those two things, the ideals 177 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,639 and the realism, right, and he's the idealistics. 178 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, maybe we should have made recon Watch Fate 179 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,000 zero first, because I think you would have appreciated. Damn, 180 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,440 you would have appreciated Shiro's maybe backstory more. I think 181 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,799 Fate State I unloaded believe works could have went into 182 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:44,720 his backstory a little bit more because they say he 183 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:47,639 has survivors guilt. We know that he's like kind of 184 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,440 like the only survivor after like some tragedy involving the 185 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,440 last Holy Grail war that's mentioned. But it would have 186 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,600 been if they put a. 187 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: Little too much right, like it's there and like he 188 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:01,080 flashes back to it a lot, and it's just very brief, 189 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:02,799 I believe, right like it doesn't ever. 190 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think. 191 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: You do get the flashbacks. You do get the flashbacks. 192 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:10,320 It does have a little bit of discussion about that. 193 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:14,159 But to me, the story in Fate was kind of 194 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,480 like whatever, but it mainly focused a lot about the 195 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:20,120 encounters with the characters and the fight scenes and the 196 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,559 and the animation. Like that was pretty much the strongest 197 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,759 point to me for the show. The story is like 198 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:27,960 more on the side more or less. 199 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like there's a lot of mystery 200 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,120 in Fate too. Are you Are you a big fan 201 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:34,960 of the mystery genre the e ricon or. 202 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't really watch much mystery these days. 203 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know. 204 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,159 Speaker 1: Especially this season, especially the anime that come out are 205 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:46,840 just a lot of generic sicis and overpower tropes and 206 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,480 shit like that, very very little on the mystery stuff, gotcha. 207 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: And the reason I say that is because, you know, 208 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,639 Briggs mentioned potentially watching Fate zero first, which is the 209 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:57,840 way I watched it. But I think that there's pros 210 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,000 and const to watching it either way. And I think 211 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,440 the biggest pro to watching Fate Day Night first would 212 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,720 be there's a lot more mystery involved, right as far 213 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:09,000 as uh, kind of what the characters want, who they 214 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,399 are as people, like how things are playing out and uh, 215 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,600 and and you know, who the heroic spirits are in 216 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:17,480 this case is always a big mystery, right, So we 217 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,679 know the Lancer is like a you know, an Irish 218 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:24,600 demigod who has like the gay bold spear, Like that's 219 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,399 all kind of revealed. But for all the others, I'm 220 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:29,440 pretty sure like it's kind of still like a big 221 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,080 point of mystery for pretty much all of them, right, Like, even. 222 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, in this show, for some reason, at 223 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,159 least for the first half, you don't get too much 224 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,759 about every character only very only very few, like you 225 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:44,080 said about Lancer, but others like like Archer. I still 226 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,399 want to know more about Archer because he's probably my 227 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,120 favorite character so far. You don't get much about him, 228 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:53,240 same as the others like Berzerker castor not too much 229 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,559 from them. But I don't know if we're even gonna 230 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:01,159 see them again. I mean, yeah, thing you guys probably 231 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:02,159 know about, I don't know. 232 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: It's a castle, a lot of characters, right, they all 233 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,200 have to play. 234 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,639 Speaker 1: There's so many characters. 235 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: You can't finish the Battle Royale without all the characters happening. 236 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,159 So there's only one out thus far, which I'm not 237 00:11:12,159 --> 00:11:14,919 gonna lie. The first time I watched this, that made 238 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:17,399 me so sad because all the promotion material, you see, 239 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:19,759 I saw that purple haired girl, I saw how cute 240 00:11:19,799 --> 00:11:21,200 she was, and I was like that, there's the best 241 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,720 girl right there, I decided before I even went in. 242 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,759 She gets like off screened, like they fought like a 243 00:11:27,799 --> 00:11:30,200 clone over and then writer is already out. She's already 244 00:11:30,639 --> 00:11:33,120 like so any thoughts, I guess on that, like that, 245 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,519 was that not the most like disappointing thing of the 246 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,399 entire series, right? 247 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: I feel like that version of Rider like that. That 248 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,879 spirit just gets wrecked every in every phase. 249 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: I honestly didn't care much about her. 250 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: She's already dead in Ilia too. She got wrecked in 251 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:51,559 Ilia like for second episode, second episode gets wrecked. What 252 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,960 do you think of like Rin and Saber soccer? Uh? 253 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,600 The the female leads or the female characters. 254 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Written written is pretty much kind of the same, more 255 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,440 or less from the first version that we watched. 256 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: You know. 257 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:12,639 Speaker 1: Uh, she's a witch and not true also a mass 258 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,679 not true? What do you mean true? 259 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,879 Speaker 2: She is much more of assumed today in this version, 260 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,120 significantly of assume today in this version, more more behind 261 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,759 as well. 262 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: It's more or less the same as the first version. 263 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,159 Speaker 2: Not the same. 264 00:12:27,159 --> 00:12:28,759 Speaker 3: I mean, I always saw a few episodes of Face 265 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,919 Day Night, but the same to me, recone, you're not. 266 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,799 Speaker 1: Too I don't know, I just like she's the same 267 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,480 as Fate. 268 00:12:36,759 --> 00:12:39,159 Speaker 2: Part of the fun of Fate is comparing all the 269 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,759 different versions. And I don't get me wrong, Wren is similar. 270 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:47,799 She's still the same person. But in this version, you know, 271 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,080 she maybe cares a little bit more for sheiro Amia 272 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,080 and we get to see that side of her more. 273 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,399 Speaker 3: I was about to say, I actually I only watched 274 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:57,919 few episodes of Face Day Night. But I feel like 275 00:12:57,919 --> 00:12:59,840 the biggest thing for Unlimited Blade Works is we do 276 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,240 a lot more of Rinn, right, Like the whole prequel 277 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,399 episode it is like forty to fifty minutes might be 278 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:08,000 a fifty minute episode. It's like all from her perspective, 279 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,639 like leading up to uh to that point where the 280 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:13,639 where the routes diverge, and so we got the whole 281 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:16,240 build up that we get in the first few episode 282 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:18,240 of Face Day Night, Like we basically get to see 283 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,480 all that, but from Rin's perspective as well, right, So 284 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,440 it's very interesting to see a lot of shadowing in there. 285 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:23,919 It's fun. 286 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: The reason for that is because it's based off of 287 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,600 like a game, like a visual novel, right, and this 288 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,240 root is Wrin's root, So yeah, we get more of it. 289 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: Pre con tell me is that one of your biggest 290 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,440 complaints about this is that Hiro is not a very 291 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,919 good like hair atagonist. He chooses a route and then 292 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,360 this is. 293 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:43,919 Speaker 1: Not a harem by any means necessary at all. 294 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 3: Sure, I mean zero is a harem. I think you'll 295 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:49,960 like Phase zero. Guys, like, okay, the biggest Harom protagonist 296 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:55,840 in anime okay, but I don't know. It's like Routes right. 297 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,759 Speaker 1: Regarding the other female characters Rider, it's trash and is awesome. 298 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:04,159 That one purple hair girl the love interest for SHEI 299 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:09,159 whatever the fuck her name, was absolutely useless Soccer, absolutely 300 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,039 useless of a character for some reason based base take. 301 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: Girl though. 302 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly the best girl for me alongside Wrinn would 303 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:20,440 be Castor. 304 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:21,879 Speaker 3: I love there we go. 305 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,279 Speaker 1: I awesome, awesome character. 306 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,879 Speaker 3: And you haven't seen the best part about Caster yet, 307 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:27,759 Like that's in part two. 308 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,279 Speaker 1: Like that's the thing we don't. I don't know much 309 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,360 about her at all, and I'm tepting I want to 310 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:32,960 find out more. 311 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:35,399 Speaker 2: It's funny though, because I I, having watched Heaven's feel 312 00:14:35,399 --> 00:14:38,080 I just feel bad for Soccer. I like soccer. I 313 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,600 feel bad for her. But at the same time, it 314 00:14:42,679 --> 00:14:44,840 was havn't seen like the last one I watched, So 315 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,519 I watched like the Dean version, Eliment, Blade Works, I 316 00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:49,799 watched Zero, I watched all these different versions, and I'm 317 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:51,720 like Fox Soccer. She just why are you even here? 318 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,559 To get out of here? Why you even here? Why 319 00:14:53,679 --> 00:14:55,000 in her house? Why are you in his house? 320 00:14:56,759 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Why are you here? Why you're in his house. Why 321 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,600 are you waste Why are you wasting my time? Why 322 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,919 are you on the screen? Just get out, let the 323 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:09,120 story continue. But yeah, I also do appreciate in this 324 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,759 anime that it's not just all about you know one 325 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:14,679 v ones. You know, it's it's not just about a 326 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,279 master and a servant versus another master and a servant, 327 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,120 because you do get duos as well, you know, like 328 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:25,200 written helping out Chiro and fighting together against a much 329 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:29,799 much more stronger opponent, and that was awesome to see. 330 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,960 But the fight scenes are just awesome. I really like 331 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,720 the fight scenes, quality animation, lots of cool characters. But 332 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,559 as soon as written explained the premise of the Holy 333 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,519 Grail War, I think it was an episode two or three, 334 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:49,000 I don't remember, uh, I was like, yeah, this is 335 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,399 pretty much just Handshaker's two point oh but better, which 336 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:51,720 is cool. 337 00:15:51,919 --> 00:15:57,399 Speaker 2: I like it. I hate comparison, but you you have 338 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,480 to agree, though, Briggs, I am right, Okay, do you 339 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,519 have a favorite character? 340 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:01,759 Speaker 1: Now? 341 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,559 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite character so far? 342 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,799 Speaker 1: Archer? But I do have a much more favorite character, 343 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,879 and that is Gilgamesh will come later on, because yeah, 344 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,159 I've seen what he can do. I've seen what he 345 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,720 can do. 346 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: So how I will say, have you seen what you 347 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:20,440 could do? 348 00:16:22,519 --> 00:16:25,919 Speaker 1: I kind of saw some YouTube clips a long time 349 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,399 ago about what he can do. 350 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,879 Speaker 2: I mean, is one of my favorite characters. So that's 351 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:33,320 that's great. Archer. Glad you're loving Archer. I loved Archer, 352 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:36,279 especially at this point in the game, and for this version, 353 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:38,000 Archer's the goat. 354 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: So you know how I mentioned that there's a lot 355 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,399 of mystery and fate recon. You know what's crazy is 356 00:16:43,639 --> 00:16:45,039 for a lot of these like if you watch through 357 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:47,639 all of Unlimited Blade works, it's not even like you 358 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:49,919 get answers to all those questions you might have, right, Like, 359 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:52,440 it's it's different routes, so like there's some things that 360 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:55,039 you'll just never get addressed in this route ever, Like, yeah, 361 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,399 that's true. So there's things around you know, I don't know, 362 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,440 like are you questioning maybe why Gilgamesh and Soccer are 363 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,359 like talking around or like while they were together at 364 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,839 bits and times and things like that, or I was 365 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,039 all this stuff you doing in the background. 366 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: Actually, now that you mentioned it, I was. But he's 367 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:16,960 just so secretive, like you don't know much about gilgames 368 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,319 He's just there in the back plot. He's just he's 369 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:23,319 just there in the background. Whatever plotting is evil schemes, 370 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,119 but I want to see, Like, but from what I've 371 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,279 seen on the YouTube clips, I probably you know that 372 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,640 was a while ago, but I've seen the Sheiro versus 373 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,680 Gilgamesh fight and I'm like, oh my god, that is 374 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,200 like one of the best things I've ever seen it season. 375 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,599 Speaker 2: Doesn't Yes, doesn't that make you want to get there? 376 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,079 Speaker 1: I kind of do. Man, I'm not gonna lie. 377 00:17:45,759 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, You've just it just blows my mind that 378 00:17:50,079 --> 00:17:53,279 you watched Ilia, You've watched Apocryphile, which I haven't watched yet, 379 00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:54,400 so I can't really speak next. 380 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,559 Speaker 1: But about Apocrypha. By the way, Apocrypha is better than 381 00:17:57,559 --> 00:17:58,920 Fate unlimited Blade works. 382 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: That's just and my favorite character is with it because 383 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,759 I dropped Apocrypha after like one or two episodes, so like, 384 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:09,799 I can't really argue and say, no, I don't think 385 00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:12,799 I completely disliked it. 386 00:18:12,799 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: It was very difficult. 387 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,279 Speaker 1: But this is like my absolute super hot take on 388 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,839 the whole Fate series about everything so far, fan Apographa 389 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,680 is better than anything and is the best character of 390 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,680 all time, my girl, the best one. 391 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:31,559 Speaker 2: I would say, like ninety percent of people who watch 392 00:18:31,599 --> 00:18:35,039 Fate would disagree with you because they've seen Fate zero. However, 393 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,000 I do have one person in my chat who's a 394 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:41,599 gigantic Fate fan knows so much information and they love apocrypha, 395 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,240 which makes you want to get back into apocrypha. But 396 00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:46,160 we also have likes to since I said fuck apocrypha, 397 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:54,680 so fair, let's dive a little into Ilia real quick here, Jordan, 398 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:55,440 I'll let you. 399 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,519 Speaker 1: Guys take the lead on this. One. 400 00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: First thing I want to say about Ilia is after like, 401 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:01,480 there was about five or six times where I had 402 00:19:01,519 --> 00:19:04,359 to just pause just because it was referencing stuff and 403 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,400 like Fate, stay Night and whatnot. And I appreciate it 404 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,880 when it was doing that, but then I'm like, it 405 00:19:10,039 --> 00:19:11,880 just blew my mind that Recon had watched through all 406 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,359 of this, but I had never like I was trying 407 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,599 to wrap my head about how how Ilio would feel 408 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,880 if I didn't get any of the references or any 409 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,960 of the other points. It was like hard to even 410 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,799 wrap my head around because there were so many things 411 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:24,480 that were happening that were like such a one to 412 00:19:24,559 --> 00:19:26,079 one I shot was. 413 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: I feel like Recon might be the only person in 414 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,359 the world to have not seen Blade Works or Zero 415 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:36,039 but have watched No, not only Apocrypha, but also Fate 416 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,319 Prism Ilia. Listen. 417 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: I only watched them because they were part of the season. Okay, 418 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,039 I just decided to go with the train ride and 419 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:44,960 stick around with it. 420 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: So here's a really cool fact though, breaks Like, I 421 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,319 know you watched Face Day Night, but uh, but when 422 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,000 Ilia season one came out, you know, there was an 423 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:56,920 Unlimited Blade Works movie I think that Diana had done 424 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,799 or something like that, but uh, but you hadn't done 425 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,680 Unlimited Blade Works yet, Unlimited. 426 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:08,079 Speaker 2: E Blaid Works. Yeah, Fate Stay Night Dean version had 427 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,240 definitely been out, and. 428 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah that came out like two thousand and six, 429 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:12,880 but it was like two d eleven or twenty twelve. 430 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,359 Whenever uh and one did Zero the year before One 431 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,839 Day Fade zero, it was like in between zero zero 432 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,920 was like twenty ten or something along those lines. So 433 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,559 it was like in between those two is whenever Ilio 434 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,759 season one came out, which is like why it kind 435 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:29,240 of blew my mind some of the things that were 436 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,799 in it because uh, you know, a lot of the 437 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:35,240 soundtracks are still good because it takes inspiration from the novels, 438 00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:37,000 so it's a lot of the same soundtracks, just different 439 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:39,880 variations of it. And then did you did you at 440 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,759 least make it through the fight that was midway through? 441 00:20:43,079 --> 00:20:45,599 Speaker 2: I watched a good chunk of it. Did I watch 442 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,160 it super I? So my idea for this kind of 443 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,799 podcast was kind of the re Experienced day Night Unlimited 444 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:55,480 Blade works zero with with Recon, but also check out 445 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,119 some of the shittier ones, or maybe not shittier ones 446 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,960 and give them a chance. So I was pine of 447 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,119 watching only two or three episodes, and then you told 448 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,759 me I got to watch the episode six in a 449 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:09,839 d M. I kind of tried to get there episode 450 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:12,440 two if they finished the fight with Ryder, if I 451 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,319 remember correctly, and this other girl showed up and used 452 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:18,799 a Lancer card and said, you're gay, like gay bulge, 453 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,559 which is the name of the spear, the name of 454 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:22,359 the spear of the attack or something which I always 455 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,079 find is funny, which it. 456 00:21:24,039 --> 00:21:29,759 Speaker 3: Happens like spear or whatever in Irish, like in Irish Gan. Yeah, yeah, 457 00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:33,160 so it's like it's like Irish pathology, got it. So 458 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,759 it's yeah, it's like he's an Irish Demiguid, so like 459 00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:36,759 that was the name of his spirit. 460 00:21:36,839 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: So cool. So basically, what was I gonna say? So 461 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,920 I watched those two episodes or three episodes pretty thoroughly, 462 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,880 but I just wanted to give my general thoughts on this. 463 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,759 I don't like it. I'm not a fan. It's just 464 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,039 worse fate. It's funny to me, though, It's it's really 465 00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:59,400 funny if I wasn't expecting what was going to happen, 466 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,039 because we've seen the soccer route, we've seen the rin Root, 467 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:05,960 we've seen the saber route, I wasn't really expecting a 468 00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:10,440 Shiro and Ilia Vaughan Einsberg route as her as like 469 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,000 a magical girl, and so rather than being like Mage's 470 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,279 and magis, they have like these wands and they're magical girls, 471 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,119 and it's not a tournament for the Holy Grail, but 472 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,200 instead they're trying to save the world and collect the 473 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,559 cards and shit like that, and it's it's actually a 474 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:29,400 cool spinoff. I think it's a cool spinoff idea, and 475 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,079 I think it has a different target demographic for sure, 476 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:34,519 and I'm not that target target demographic. 477 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,759 Speaker 3: Uh see, I'm torn on that because I feel like 478 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,799 it does subvert the typical magical girl genre in a 479 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:41,359 lot of ways. 480 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and it does. 481 00:22:42,599 --> 00:22:44,559 Speaker 3: I went into this expecting not to like it because 482 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:46,160 I've heard so much hate for it, and I've heard 483 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,920 a few people I did like it as well, But 484 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,039 I thought Ilio was actually really well done. I enjoyed 485 00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:51,880 it way more than I thought I would. I might 486 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,400 like it more than Unlimited Blade Works. 487 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:57,599 Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad you did. I think it's just impossible 488 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,799 for me not to compare it to the other and 489 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:04,680 I really struggle because this is more humorous, it's more comedic. 490 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:08,759 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. I didn't necessarily look at it 491 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:10,400 as like a comparison to those other works. 492 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't, but I struggle not to. 493 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,559 Speaker 3: So here's one of the things that, like, it might 494 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:17,079 be tough for me to touch on as far as the 495 00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:19,720 reason I probably liked the Ilia the most because I 496 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,000 don't want to spoil Fate zero or like the second 497 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,319 half of Unlimited Blade Works for recon. But like Fate 498 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,799 in general, just talking typical tone is very depressing, very 499 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,240 There's a lot of dark shit in like all the 500 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,880 other Fate series that I've seen, So, like, you take 501 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,640 some of those same characters that you know and love, 502 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,599 and you could see them just be happy for once 503 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,359 having life. Like there's parts of that that just warmed 504 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,559 my heart, right, Like we could see iris Field kind 505 00:23:43,599 --> 00:23:45,319 of come in and give motherly advice in the second 506 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,640 half the season, and yeah, she was like best girl 507 00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:49,319 Fate zero for me. So I'm like, all right, you 508 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:50,799 know that's dude here for that. 509 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: It's just so funny. I don't know why this wasn't 510 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,279 expecting like, oh, this spinoff series, Like I'm I guess 511 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,400 they just all have Shiro and in it. I just 512 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,319 wasn't expect thing like a younger looking Shiro and like 513 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,680 Ilia von Einsberg, the girl who has she has she 514 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,880 summons hercules in Fate Stay and Unlimited Blade works to 515 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240 be like the main girl in this one, and then 516 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,279 like Rynn shows up. I just I don't know why. 517 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,279 I just wasn't ready for it. I should have been ready, 518 00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:20,799 considering that fucking every Fate that I've experienced does Apophiro 519 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,319 in it. I don't remember. I thought it didn't. I 520 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,279 thought it was a different character. 521 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a lot of those same charactersk doesn't have 522 00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:30,279 hiro Wauku for Ilia. 523 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just really it's another route, but now they're 524 00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:35,039 magical girls. 525 00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the thing is like it is like its 526 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,279 own spin off entirely as far as uh, Like in 527 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,880 Fate Stay Night, like Ilia is the older sister, right, 528 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,880 Like she's like eighteen and Shiro's like seventeen, but Ilia, 529 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,640 like they just lean all the way in Shiro is 530 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,839 still seventeen, but she they made her like ten. Right, 531 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,680 So it's like you go back to she wasn't like 532 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,799 basically Fate zero. 533 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: But I thought in Fate Stay Night, Ilia was really young, 534 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,319 isn't she? 535 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: No, she's eighteen, like she's she because she was there 536 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,440 in she was like eight years old like facey remembering. 537 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: Alien Prisma is the prequel. Ilia Prisma is the prequel, 538 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,279 and it's. 539 00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: Not a prequel. It's spin off entirely. It's not it's 540 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,279 not related in any way, a different universe. 541 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,799 Speaker 2: Is she not the one who summons hercules? In face 542 00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:18,079 they not unlimited blade works? 543 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:21,279 Speaker 3: Yeah she is? Yeah, okay, so she just look look 544 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,079 at hercules. She looks a little bit young. O. 545 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,839 Speaker 2: I am sot herric No not hercules, not hercules? What 546 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,039 am I talking about? She summoned like the berserker guy. 547 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Oh the berserker. 548 00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: Oops. 549 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: I was like, who's Hercules? 550 00:25:34,599 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: I did an oopsy but but yeah, so I didn't 551 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:41,599 let she was eighteen. I thought she was. She looked 552 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:42,440 that she was fucking twelve. 553 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 3: That's the thing is like she would be like the 554 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,400 older sister, right, Like she was so young in phase 555 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:49,119 zero and then like ten years go by, right, So it's, uh, 556 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,039 it's one of those things where I don't know, you 557 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:54,000 see so many sad things throughout the other face then 558 00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:56,599 you just see them all together and happy and stuff 559 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,880 for for Ilia, and that made me happy. Yeah, But 560 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,240 then also it had is stuff in there too, where 561 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:03,160 like there's the tone shifts in like a Modoka type 562 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,599 way where it's like, oh, like I didn't ask for this, 563 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,599 but suddenly I am risking my life in these fights 564 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:09,680 to the death. And then uh, in the middle of 565 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:13,200 the season you just get this, like randomly, you get 566 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,759 one of the better fights that I've seen in Fate 567 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,519 with like safer alter coming out of nowhere. Yeah, like 568 00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:20,319 the first time ever being animated, great soundtracks, and like 569 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,640 it's like a multi episode fight. I was watching that, 570 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,880 watching that fight right for the podcast, I'm like, man, 571 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,119 it's crazy to think that this came out before Unlimited 572 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,880 Blade works or having feel or any of that, and 573 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,559 it's it's still so good. Like I don't know, I 574 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:33,599 was fanboying a little bit when I saw Safer Alters, 575 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,279 so it was a fun time question. 576 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: Recon mm hm. Based on your experience of all these 577 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,799 fates thus far, do you know who any of these 578 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,799 heroic spirits are? 579 00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: Uh? 580 00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: You mean heroic spirits like the Servants, the Servants. 581 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,599 Speaker 1: Oh oh, the Servants. No, not really at all. 582 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: I like that because I. 583 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,039 Speaker 1: Barely know much about them, to be honest. But that's 584 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,759 why they're just interesting good, They're interesting characters. 585 00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: I'm happy I kind of spoiled one, but other than that. 586 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,799 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't matter if you spoiled one. I 587 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,480 don't even know what the hell you're talking about. 588 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: Cool, great, fantastic, It is funny to see that, and 589 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,839 stuff like the Servants are supposed to be like the strongest, 590 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,720 you know, characters throughout history and whatnot. And then you just, 591 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,880 I guess, thinking about like the mystery elements of A 592 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,920 Face Day night. What did you think about like the 593 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,000 ending of or around the end of episode twelve where 594 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,559 you suddenly see Kire like throwing hands with a like 595 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,000 Castor invades the church and then Bro is fighting for 596 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,079 his life there. But he's also putting up a fight, right, 597 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,559 like there's warriors in this day and age too. Right, 598 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:46,640 as we've seen. 599 00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: It was good. 600 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: I like it. 601 00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate Shiro, you know, doing his best, trying to 602 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,400 get stronger. But in the end, Renn is like, just 603 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,240 stay away from this or you're gonna die. But you 604 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,440 can see it as he sure just doesn't. He ain't 605 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,119 gonna back down. 606 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: He's gonna keep on going. 607 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna get better, He's gonna get stronger, which which 608 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,119 you know is protagon his power. It's cool, but I 609 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,200 still don't appreciate the decu vibes coming from him. 610 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does have a bit of a more shown 611 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,559 in field right Whenever. 612 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: Honestly, the final battle between dem. 613 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: And cast awesome, very cool, and the battles just get 614 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,000 better and better. 615 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,599 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I just want to see that Gilgamesh fight, man, 616 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:28,559 I want to see it in action. 617 00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: Everybody's always so excited about the fights. But you know 618 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,920 what about the days, that's what pretty much they ate lunch. 619 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,559 We got to sabor eat lunch. 620 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,039 Speaker 2: See, that's that's something you don't experience. That's something you 621 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:45,480 don't experience in Dean. That's something you don't experience in 622 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:47,480 the Dean one. You don't get a date episode with Wrin, 623 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:50,759 and that might be a plus for the unbloomited Blade Work. 624 00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:54,599 It's not gonna lie. I like seeing the warmer kinder 625 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,039 sign of Wrin that soon the side of Wrin. Sometimes. 626 00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:00,839 Speaker 3: I still think one of my favorites and all of 627 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,400 Unlimited Blade Works is just like him opening the door 628 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,359 seeing Rin and just closing it. I don't know why, 629 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:09,160 Like it seems like that always cracked me up, but 630 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:11,200 I think it's super angry. 631 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,759 Speaker 1: Right. The slice of life stuff is cool, you know, 632 00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,799 the school life and all that stuff and the dates 633 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,000 and the hanging out, but that's just it's all just 634 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,400 fillers until the main events come in. You know, it's 635 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,039 just a filler stuff. 636 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,319 Speaker 3: Break my heart. 637 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, watching Unlimited Blade Works again, I love Archer so 638 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:30,359 much as a character. 639 00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: Agree, He's very good. 640 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:37,599 Speaker 1: Definitely a badass character, but a stallful better Just you know, 641 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,920 putting that out there. 642 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: And I will say, knowing what I know now having 643 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,319 watched the Other Fates, I think rewatching Fates and seeing 644 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Archer is a whole different experience thinking about it. But 645 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,400 that's something for Recon to find out and learn about 646 00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:55,720 in the second season, which is what we're gonna do 647 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,599 next week. You only have a little bit of homework left. 648 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,160 You have the rest. 649 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: But if I don't do my homework for the next episode, 650 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:03,920 you just. 651 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: Need to watch twelve. You're gonna love it. It's good. 652 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,359 It's good. Trust me, it's good. You're gonna love it. 653 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:10,559 All you do is finish Unlimited Blade Works, and then 654 00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:12,839 we're gonna watch Fate zero again, which is gonna be great. 655 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,039 I can't wait to rewatch that. 656 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,519 Speaker 3: We get to watch Ilia everything about Fate. 657 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: Can we just move on to no series? 658 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,559 Speaker 1: Why do we move on to sort out online arc? 659 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:23,240 How about that? 660 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: We could? We could, but not next week because next 661 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,200 week's Unlimited Blade. 662 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: Works and season two right break? 663 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: No wait wait wait wait wait, oh wait wait wait wait. 664 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,519 You gotta watch something you can't just back. 665 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,599 Speaker 2: I will, I will watch something. I would. I would 666 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,480 happily watch six episodes or even twelve of Apocrypha or 667 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:50,960 isn't there a grand Or I watched Ilia, I have 668 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:54,799 my opinion the spinoff. I'm down for something else. 669 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: Everything's a spin off and Fate. That's that's the whole 670 00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,960 point is like there's the main series with the limited 671 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,920 laid works in Heavens Feel and Zero and whatnot, and 672 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,519 then there everything else is a spin off. 673 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,119 Speaker 2: Okay, so isn't what other fates are there? There's Grand 674 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,680 Order and there's Apocrypha. Correct have you seen Grand Order? 675 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: I haven't seen either of those. 676 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Honestly, you guys just watched Apografa. 677 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,839 Speaker 2: I'm down to give Apographa a second chance. I'll try 678 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,960 and watch a lot of it, Okay, Okay, if not, 679 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,759 I'll try to watch the entire season if it's only 680 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:30,599 twelve episodes. I never agreed to that for Elie, Okay, 681 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,400 I knew what Elio looked like, and I'm like, I'm 682 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,319 not really that damn. I'm gonna pull a recon, but 683 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,119 I will check it out. 684 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,799 Speaker 1: Okay, But what did you think about the Yurie stuff? Though? 685 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: It was like it wasn't like real yury Though. I 686 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,079 felt like it was like different comedy, right. 687 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: That's the thing. It like, it really wasn't a lot 688 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,680 in that first season. I've seen a lot of gifts 689 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480 and stuff where like it's more kind of into it, 690 00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,799 and I think that's later seasons. Yeah, more at the 691 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400 very end of season one, where's some uri stuff, but like, uh, 692 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,319 like for the most most of the part, like there's 693 00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,559 a lot of like live comedy aspects that are very 694 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,799 lighthearted and then there's some more serious stuff and it 695 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,599 kind of goes back and forth between those two for 696 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:07,880 uh for the duration of that first season. 697 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: So I feel like, like, is it that Elia has 698 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,839 like a little bit of a crush on Mew but 699 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,559 like I don't more so the other way around, but 700 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,559 on the way around me you on Ilia all the 701 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,400 way around into the. 702 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:21,519 Speaker 3: Service part a little bit. 703 00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it leans into it, but I feel like it 704 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,640 leans in it into it for this a humor perspective, 705 00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,000 And I'm like, is this the reason why Jordan maybe 706 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:30,799 keep on watching? Just I could kind of see this? 707 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,839 Speaker 3: Oh no, I wanted to see as the Safer Altar 708 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,039 fight because like that was like episodes like four through 709 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,119 six or whatever, but like it just kept going, but 710 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,240 it was very epic. In like episode six, we get 711 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,440 to see iris Field basically do like the Archer transformation 712 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,240 where she basically becomes Archer and has to fight Saber Alter, 713 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,000 and I'm like this is one of the iron ironically 714 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:50,880 one of my favorite fights in Fate, and it was 715 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,640 just really well done. I didn't expect that midway through 716 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,799 season one of ilia of all things, like I just 717 00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:57,599 caught me off guard. 718 00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,599 Speaker 2: I need to watch four through six a little bit better. 719 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,559 I kind of of. I watched the first three pretty 720 00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:02,279 pretty thoroughly. 721 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,599 Speaker 3: It's like, all just a very serious fight. But like 722 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,240 I was, I was, I was very I was genuinely shocked, 723 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,400 but like pleasantly surprised, like uh with it? So all right, 724 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,880 so and then it goes back to some slice of 725 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,319 life stuff. 726 00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:15,839 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm very excited to watch Handshaker's two 727 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,799 point oh season two. 728 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: Let's go, Let's go, Let's go. 729 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: I am looking forward to hearing your opinions on the 730 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,839 second half because there's some crazy shit reveals mystery wise 731 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:28,440 battles endings to the end of this season, So I'm 732 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,400 excited to see what you got going from Loanding Blade 733 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,480 Work season two and your thoughts on that. I'm excited 734 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:37,480 to watch Apocrypha because I actually have heard some good things, 735 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,599 even though I didn't really love it when I first 736 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,440 checked it out. 737 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,079 Speaker 1: Pretty good. I like it. You're gonna like Astolfo. 738 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,519 Speaker 3: I have heard good things about Ulfo. I will say, is. 739 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,119 Speaker 2: There anything else that we need to talk about though? 740 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,680 For Unlimited Blade Work Season one? 741 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,519 Speaker 1: Really? I mean I've said everything. I've said my opinion 742 00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,319 about it. Uh, you know, I move. 743 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: On to the next You talked about the characters. He 744 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,680 talked about some fights. He talked about like some of 745 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,960 the Slice of Life moments. 746 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty much it. Characters are a lot of 747 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,519 the characters are good. Don't like the protagonist though very much, 748 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,679 but most of the side characters they outsigne him, spice 749 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:28,760 so much. Moments I can't really say there's big moments 750 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,039 so far. It's like it's building up. It's building up 751 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:36,119 to something. So yeah, no moments so far. 752 00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:43,079 Speaker 2: I like the casters Mage just being able to throw 753 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,679 hands was good. That was cool. That was a cool fight. 754 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,320 Just he's just an absolute beast. Yeah, out of out 755 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,760 of nowhere. He's like the teacher. And it was kind 756 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,639 of like foreshadowed because Saber even acknowledged, like the way 757 00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,320 he walked and held himself and like he seems like 758 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,039 a good man. Maybe he's not a good man, but 759 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,840 definitely a warrior. And that's how Saper kind of identified that. 760 00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: I guess I didn't really think about that too much 761 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,280 as far as because he did surprise me, but I 762 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,639 was thinking Kire might surprise as Reconn being able to 763 00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:15,519 throw hands and whatnot as well. But then watching Fate 764 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,679 Stay Night first and just seeing all the different characters 765 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719 randomly able to throw hands, like, sure, that is a 766 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,320 is a whopper. There's some good fights in there. 767 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,679 Speaker 2: Although in the Dean version you get to see Shiro 768 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,679 against Lancer early on. I already mentioned this, but I 769 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,000 remember him like he used like a crumpled up like 770 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:32,400 a piece of paper or like a piece of paper, 771 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,719 and he hardened it and he blocked a couple of things, 772 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,239 and then he did the thing where he opened it 773 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,280 up and used it as a shield. In the Dean version, 774 00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:40,320 it was a couple of moments from hims like, dude, 775 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,679 he's fighting Lancer, and I'm sure Lancer's not going all 776 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,559 out obviously, but still it was just like it was 777 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:51,400 a testament to like what Shiro has the potential to do. 778 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there's a lot of foreshadowing and unlimited blade work, 779 00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:58,440 So like rewatching some of those first few episodes and 780 00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:01,000 just trying to pay attention to that was very, very 781 00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:02,920 fun So it's a very rewatchabul series. 782 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: Do we think hundred percent? Does ilil Sorry I'm jumping 783 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,079 back and forth. Crazy. Does Elia like Shiro in the 784 00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:12,880 in the prison one? 785 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,519 Speaker 3: Uh like a little bit? Yeah, Like there's some uh 786 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,719 like it plays into that as like a fan service part, 787 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,440 like she like is like having a dream where she's 788 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,679 like trying to kiss him or whatever and then she 789 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:23,880 she's kissing like the other girl instead or whatever. 790 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,679 Speaker 2: So like it plays in there's some it's more of 791 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:27,360 a playing thing for comedic. 792 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does claim but but yeah, like it definitely 793 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,400 felt comedic. 794 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: It's funny though, but Shiro doesn't do much an Alia 795 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:38,000 like he's just pretty much the background care lied blade work. 796 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 3: She hates Hiro right like as we've seen yeah in 797 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,679 season one, so like it's crazy seeing her up here 798 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,360 out of nowhere and you have no context of who 799 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,719 she is or like why she's there, but she walks 800 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,039 up and says like O neechean or whatever, like she 801 00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:54,559 calls him brother. Yeah, like there's a lot of mystery 802 00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:55,559 there and unlimited blade work. 803 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if you guys are into that, by all means, 804 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,800 keep on watching it for that stuff. 805 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 3: No, I've talked about a little bit of Blade works 806 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,280 here as far as like she walks up when she 807 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,920 was first introduced and calls him brother. Right, So, like 808 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,199 the fact that they're does does it even say like 809 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:12,880 why or. 810 00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:14,119 Speaker 2: Not explained at all? 811 00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: I don't think really not explained, That's what I'm saying, Like, 812 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,199 I don't think it does. It doesn't explain a lot, 813 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,719 and that's why I'm trying not to go too far 814 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,480 into it. But like it's fun just seeing stuff like 815 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:25,159 that happen with no explanation, just adding to the mysteries. 816 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: Right. 817 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: So, Yeah, and Shield doesn't even like react or like 818 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,639 as a weird reaction. I'm like, I don't get it. 819 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like heroes just kind of always out of the loop. 820 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,159 He's just kind of yeah, he's a little bit of 821 00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:40,760 a I don't know, he doesn't think too much about things. 822 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,440 He just kind of does, right, Man of Action. 823 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,559 Speaker 2: Fair. 824 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,679 Speaker 1: So the plan is Fate arc and then Sao arc deal. 825 00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 2: Okay, in regards to Sao, are we just rewatching the 826 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,880 original or like are we talking about the other arcs? 827 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,400 And like the movies, isn't there a movie that like 828 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,920 redes the original. 829 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's an awesomeess perspective. 830 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: M I would like to watch that. I'd be down 831 00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,440 to watch that. Nah, come on, you gotta watch. 832 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,199 Speaker 1: The main Man. 833 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: Though, you can't just watch Austin. I've watched it twice, 834 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:13,760 though I could. I can give you all my opinions 835 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,480 without watching it. 836 00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: You're literally gonna it's gonna be the same. It's just 837 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:22,320 in her perspective. Just read a less badass basically, like 838 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,920 less you're gonna get less action with her. 839 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there is a lot of essay what 840 00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:29,159 I probably haven't seen because, like I said, I watched 841 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,519 the first two seasons like pretty much when they came 842 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:33,159 out because I'd read a little bit of it prior. 843 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,639 But I've never rewatched either. So Mother's Rose Area would 844 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:39,559 be like the last arc I have any familiarity with, 845 00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:43,400 Wasn't there like a whole other like spinoff or like 846 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,519 there's also movies and stuff after that, and there's a lot. 847 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: Of there's a lot of movies. There's a lot of 848 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,159 movies on this show. Yeah. 849 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're next week Fate Day Night, Unlimited, Blade 850 00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:55,880 Works season two, and Apocrypha, So I have to watch 851 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,719 some Apographa this week Curcy Briggs. 852 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,639 Speaker 3: I held off on watching ilias reason too, because I 853 00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:02,199 didn't want to like get too far ahead. 854 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,679 Speaker 2: I just wanted to check them out. I want to 855 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,760 check them out the other one. 856 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,639 Speaker 3: That's my goal, alright, Apocrypha it is. I. I am 857 00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:12,960 excited to see Astulfo. I've heard nothing but good things 858 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,079 about about that guys. 859 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, as my girl, and I think that's a great 860 00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:20,960 way to end up girl. 861 00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah as usual, as usual. Love you guys, shint pocku, 862 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,760 and I'll see you all next time. He