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Speaker 1: Excited to have a couple of guests joining me in
Speaker 1: the studio. I have Justin, I have Elie Heckel, and
Speaker 1: I know these guys. We've worked together numerous times and
Speaker 1: some of my favorite people on the planet. I can
Speaker 1: say that right and they laugh, but it's true. They
Speaker 1: really are. You guys have a new book. Who do
Speaker 1: I get to talk to? First? Ladies first, talkbot first first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna start with Ellie. Tell me a little
Speaker 1: bit about this book because I know you as worship leaders.
Speaker 1: I know you as just amazing people, but now I
Speaker 1: get to know you as authors too, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about this book.
Speaker 2: Really excited you know, John, this has been our twenty
Speaker 2: years of being involved in worship for different denominations, churches,
Speaker 2: tent revivals, per houses, so lots of different variety and styles,
Speaker 2: and so we talked through a lot. Justin will share
Speaker 2: a little bit more about the logistics of what the
Speaker 2: book covers, but really our experience is just this broad perspective.
Speaker 2: We just feel like now is the time to release
Speaker 2: this because what we've found is a lot of worship
Speaker 2: leaders around the country have this high level of expectation
Speaker 2: both for production right, they have to meet a certain expectation.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure put on worship leaders, and
Speaker 2: so we talk about some of those pressures on how
Speaker 2: can we relieve, how can we help mentor them, how
Speaker 2: can we provide tools? That's what this is. It's really
Speaker 2: a tool for the worship leaders so that they don't
Speaker 2: feel like they're alone in their denominations. They don't really
Speaker 2: typically have some council around how can I lead better
Speaker 2: as an individual? How can I lead better as a
Speaker 2: worship leader. But then also just we want this to
Speaker 2: be a tool for churches to teach and train not
Speaker 2: just the worship leader, but for future worship leaders and
Speaker 2: people that want to come around, want to play instrument,
Speaker 2: want to sing, they want to be involved, but they
Speaker 2: don't know where to start. And it's great.
Speaker 1: It's called Worship Everywhere, a practical guide to foster continuous
Speaker 1: worship and justin you're involved in this here as well,
Speaker 1: So let's talk to you a little bit. So who
Speaker 1: is this designed for? Is there somebody who had in
Speaker 1: mind that boy, this would be the perfect person to
Speaker 1: read this particular book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a way. I mean, obviously, when you talk
Speaker 3: about worship, we're talking to ministers and worship leaders things
Speaker 3: like that inside the church. But we start actually by
Speaker 3: taking it outside the church. How is every day supposed
Speaker 3: to be worship? Everything I do? How is everything I
Speaker 3: do supposed to be worship? And so the thought process
Speaker 3: is really that if I teach my congregation to constantly
Speaker 3: be in a state of worship, then Sunday morning worship
Speaker 3: is a real easy deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, we were just coming together and bringing what I've
Speaker 3: been doing all week long. I'm just bringing it inside
Speaker 3: the church, right, and we get to do it together.
Speaker 3: And you know, sometimes you've had these debates in the
Speaker 3: church of what songs should we being sung? Should we
Speaker 3: sing the old Him, should we sing the new songs?
Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff. But that becomes a lot
Speaker 3: less important when that's not your only time that you're
Speaker 3: worshiping throughout the week.
Speaker 1: Right, I love that. And the thing that's nice, you know,
Speaker 1: you were talking. Ellie was talking about how I point
Speaker 1: to her and I say you, Ellie was talking about
Speaker 1: how important it is. You know, there's different different things
Speaker 1: that this covers. And one of the things that I
Speaker 1: think is kind of fascinating is like there are churches
Speaker 1: that literally break up because well, there's too much singing,
Speaker 1: or there's not enough singing, or it's the wrong kind
Speaker 1: of songs. And I think so many times we get
Speaker 1: hung up on all the wrong things. That's not the
Speaker 1: most important thing, is it.
Speaker 3: No, we cannot worship worship all right. We worship Him
Speaker 3: and we worship God. And there's a reason why we
Speaker 3: worship God. You know, there's the command to worship Him
Speaker 3: and worship him only. And one of the main reasons
Speaker 3: for that is all of creation is made to worship.
Speaker 3: The question is what are you worshiping? Because we can't
Speaker 3: hide what we worship, because we become like what we worship.
Speaker 3: And that's why he says, worship me only, because we're
Speaker 3: supposed to look like him absolutely. And so again, the
Speaker 3: thing even is that it's not even about the music.
Speaker 3: Even we've set worship aside to being about the music
Speaker 3: so much of the time. But like the early Israelites
Speaker 3: would have seen everything as worship. Everything is to be
Speaker 3: done as worship under the Lord. Right, Paul tells us
Speaker 3: that too. And so it's how is you know, how
Speaker 3: is doing household chores worship? How is going to work worship?
Speaker 3: How is disciplining my kids or hanging out with my
Speaker 3: kids or going on a date night or paying bills?
Speaker 3: How am I doing that as worship? Because if I'm
Speaker 3: going to worship the Lord, if I'm going to see
Speaker 3: this as a form of worship, thank you God that
Speaker 3: I can actually pay my bills. Thank you God that
Speaker 3: I don't have to go to the river every day
Speaker 3: to gather water. I could just run it into my house.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: If I treat it as worship, he can bless that.
Speaker 3: If I treat it as a point to complain about,
Speaker 3: you can't bless that.
Speaker 1: And it's called worship everywhere. A practical guide to foster
Speaker 1: continuous worship and Elie. This is available now people can
Speaker 1: like what if they're I'm trying to think of the
Speaker 1: right word the e book where they do the aunt seat,
Speaker 1: can you tell I don't I'm not that guy?
Speaker 3: Or digital versions.
Speaker 1: Bit like behind me, you'll see a stack of like
Speaker 1: real books, because I'm an old guy and I like
Speaker 1: real books. So whatever somebody is looking for, if they
Speaker 1: want to do it on their you know, digital device,
Speaker 1: they can read it there, but they can also purchase
Speaker 1: like an actual book book version as well.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, if they just google our book or they
Speaker 2: can go to Amazon dot com and order it. Either
Speaker 2: the print or the ebook is available very soon everywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm going to make it really easy because I'm going
Speaker 1: to put a link to it. But again, if if
Speaker 1: somebody is interested, like maybe for their church, getting a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of these, they could do that as well.
Speaker 1: Is that something you're seeing as well?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, what our heart is that it's not just it
Speaker 2: doesn't just stop with buying the book. Yeah, that there's
Speaker 2: actually training and activation along with that. So we're ready
Speaker 2: to jump into this season of training and teaching and
Speaker 2: equipping the body of believers both in well in any
Speaker 2: church that is wanting to do that, and even just
Speaker 2: individual mentorship too. That's really our heart is that it's
Speaker 2: literally going out everywhere and just to our vision for
Speaker 2: this also is acknowledging and honoring the goodness of God
Speaker 2: in every moment, and that's really what Justin was talking about.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to make it easy for people to
Speaker 1: find you guys. So if somebody is interested in the book,
Speaker 1: I'll have a link for that. But if they're interested
Speaker 1: in having you guys, can I be a part of something,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make it easy for them to do
Speaker 1: that as well.
Speaker 3: That'd be fantastic. And you asked our churches, you know,
Speaker 3: are we seeing that. Yes, we are seeing churches purchase them,
Speaker 3: and we highly encourage churches buy this for your worship team,
Speaker 3: especially because there are a few things in there that
Speaker 3: are very beneficial. Number one is that we're talking about
Speaker 3: things like how as a worship leader to honor your
Speaker 3: house authority. So the lead pastor, I don't want to
Speaker 3: come into like a diva and be like, well it's
Speaker 3: really important the way I worship right, and it's I
Speaker 3: still need to honor house authority. So we talk about
Speaker 3: honoring house authority. We do talk about how to disciple
Speaker 3: your team. We also talk about how to give some
Speaker 3: teachings and trainings and some practical applications to your congregation
Speaker 3: to help them stay focused on worship throughout their week.
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, thank you so much for coming in.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I don't always get guests in the studio,
Speaker 1: so it's nice. It's usually over the phone, so I
Speaker 1: love having you guys here. Justin Ellie, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you so much.
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