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<v Speaker 1>Something you should go something you should know is brought

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<v Speaker 1>Excited to have a couple of guests joining me in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio. I have Justin, I have Elie Heckel, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know these guys. We've worked together numerous times and

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<v Speaker 1>some of my favorite people on the planet. I can

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<v Speaker 1>say that right and they laugh, but it's true. They

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<v Speaker 1>really are. You guys have a new book. Who do

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<v Speaker 1>I get to talk to? First? Ladies first, talkbot first first. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna start with Ellie. Tell me a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about this book because I know you as worship leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you as just amazing people, but now I

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<v Speaker 1>get to know you as authors too, So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this book.

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<v Speaker 2>Really excited you know, John, this has been our twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years of being involved in worship for different denominations, churches,

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<v Speaker 2>tent revivals, per houses, so lots of different variety and styles,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we talked through a lot. Justin will share

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more about the logistics of what the

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<v Speaker 2>book covers, but really our experience is just this broad perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>We just feel like now is the time to release

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<v Speaker 2>this because what we've found is a lot of worship

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<v Speaker 2>leaders around the country have this high level of expectation

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<v Speaker 2>both for production right, they have to meet a certain expectation.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of pressure put on worship leaders, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we talk about some of those pressures on how

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<v Speaker 2>can we relieve, how can we help mentor them, how

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<v Speaker 2>can we provide tools? That's what this is. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>a tool for the worship leaders so that they don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they're alone in their denominations. They don't really

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<v Speaker 2>typically have some council around how can I lead better

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<v Speaker 2>as an individual? How can I lead better as a

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<v Speaker 2>worship leader. But then also just we want this to

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<v Speaker 2>be a tool for churches to teach and train not

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<v Speaker 2>just the worship leader, but for future worship leaders and

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<v Speaker 2>people that want to come around, want to play instrument,

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<v Speaker 2>want to sing, they want to be involved, but they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where to start. And it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Worship Everywhere, a practical guide to foster continuous

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<v Speaker 1>worship and justin you're involved in this here as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk to you a little bit. So who

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<v Speaker 1>is this designed for? Is there somebody who had in

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<v Speaker 1>mind that boy, this would be the perfect person to

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<v Speaker 1>read this particular book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in a way. I mean, obviously, when you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about worship, we're talking to ministers and worship leaders things

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<v Speaker 3>like that inside the church. But we start actually by

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<v Speaker 3>taking it outside the church. How is every day supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be worship? Everything I do? How is everything I

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<v Speaker 3>do supposed to be worship? And so the thought process

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<v Speaker 3>is really that if I teach my congregation to constantly

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<v Speaker 3>be in a state of worship, then Sunday morning worship

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<v Speaker 3>is a real easy deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we were just coming together and bringing what I've

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<v Speaker 3>been doing all week long. I'm just bringing it inside

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<v Speaker 3>the church, right, and we get to do it together.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, sometimes you've had these debates in the

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<v Speaker 3>church of what songs should we being sung? Should we

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<v Speaker 3>sing the old Him, should we sing the new songs?

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<v Speaker 3>All that kind of stuff. But that becomes a lot

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<v Speaker 3>less important when that's not your only time that you're

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<v Speaker 3>worshiping throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I love that. And the thing that's nice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking. Ellie was talking about how I point

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<v Speaker 1>to her and I say you, Ellie was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how important it is. You know, there's different different things

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<v Speaker 1>that this covers. And one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is kind of fascinating is like there are churches

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<v Speaker 1>that literally break up because well, there's too much singing,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's not enough singing, or it's the wrong kind

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<v Speaker 1>of songs. And I think so many times we get

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<v Speaker 1>hung up on all the wrong things. That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing, is it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we cannot worship worship all right. We worship Him

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<v Speaker 3>and we worship God. And there's a reason why we

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<v Speaker 3>worship God. You know, there's the command to worship Him

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<v Speaker 3>and worship him only. And one of the main reasons

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<v Speaker 3>for that is all of creation is made to worship.

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<v Speaker 3>The question is what are you worshiping? Because we can't

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<v Speaker 3>hide what we worship, because we become like what we worship.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why he says, worship me only, because we're

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to look like him absolutely. And so again, the

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<v Speaker 3>thing even is that it's not even about the music.

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<v Speaker 3>Even we've set worship aside to being about the music

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<v Speaker 3>so much of the time. But like the early Israelites

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<v Speaker 3>would have seen everything as worship. Everything is to be

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<v Speaker 3>done as worship under the Lord. Right, Paul tells us

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<v Speaker 3>that too. And so it's how is you know, how

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<v Speaker 3>is doing household chores worship? How is going to work worship?

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<v Speaker 3>How is disciplining my kids or hanging out with my

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<v Speaker 3>kids or going on a date night or paying bills?

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<v Speaker 3>How am I doing that as worship? Because if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to worship the Lord, if I'm going to see

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<v Speaker 3>this as a form of worship, thank you God that

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<v Speaker 3>I can actually pay my bills. Thank you God that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to go to the river every day

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<v Speaker 3>to gather water. I could just run it into my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If I treat it as worship, he can bless that.

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<v Speaker 3>If I treat it as a point to complain about,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't bless that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called worship everywhere. A practical guide to foster

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<v Speaker 1>continuous worship and Elie. This is available now people can

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<v Speaker 1>like what if they're I'm trying to think of the

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<v Speaker 1>right word the e book where they do the aunt seat,

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<v Speaker 1>can you tell I don't I'm not that guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Or digital versions.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit like behind me, you'll see a stack of like

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<v Speaker 1>real books, because I'm an old guy and I like

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<v Speaker 1>real books. So whatever somebody is looking for, if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it on their you know, digital device,

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<v Speaker 1>they can read it there, but they can also purchase

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<v Speaker 1>like an actual book book version as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, if they just google our book or they

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<v Speaker 2>can go to Amazon dot com and order it. Either

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<v Speaker 2>the print or the ebook is available very soon everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make it really easy because I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to put a link to it. But again, if if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is interested, like maybe for their church, getting a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of these, they could do that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that something you're seeing as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, what our heart is that it's not just it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't just stop with buying the book. Yeah, that there's

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<v Speaker 2>actually training and activation along with that. So we're ready

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<v Speaker 2>to jump into this season of training and teaching and

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<v Speaker 2>equipping the body of believers both in well in any

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<v Speaker 2>church that is wanting to do that, and even just

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<v Speaker 2>individual mentorship too. That's really our heart is that it's

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<v Speaker 2>literally going out everywhere and just to our vision for

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<v Speaker 2>this also is acknowledging and honoring the goodness of God

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<v Speaker 2>in every moment, and that's really what Justin was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to make it easy for people to

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<v Speaker 1>find you guys. So if somebody is interested in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have a link for that. But if they're interested

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<v Speaker 1>in having you guys, can I be a part of something,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make it easy for them to do

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<v Speaker 1>that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That'd be fantastic. And you asked our churches, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>are we seeing that. Yes, we are seeing churches purchase them,

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<v Speaker 3>and we highly encourage churches buy this for your worship team,

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<v Speaker 3>especially because there are a few things in there that

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<v Speaker 3>are very beneficial. Number one is that we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>things like how as a worship leader to honor your

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<v Speaker 3>house authority. So the lead pastor, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>come into like a diva and be like, well it's

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<v Speaker 3>really important the way I worship right, and it's I

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<v Speaker 3>still need to honor house authority. So we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>honoring house authority. We do talk about how to disciple

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<v Speaker 3>your team. We also talk about how to give some

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<v Speaker 3>teachings and trainings and some practical applications to your congregation

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<v Speaker 3>to help them stay focused on worship throughout their week.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Well, thank you so much for coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. I don't always get guests in the studio,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's nice. It's usually over the phone, so I

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<v Speaker 1>love having you guys here. Justin Ellie, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, thank you so much.

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