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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the

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<v Speaker 1>House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app, Instagram, TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook X. Speaking of that, Tina posted, I think she

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<v Speaker 1>popped up a little image of on Instagram and Facebook. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of the Little Lakes Valley where we're taking our backpacking

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<v Speaker 1>trip here very very shortly. I'm very excited. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see the hellscape that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to put up with while we're on our backpacking trip,

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<v Speaker 1>you should go ahead. Take a look. Oh it's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>Just managing myself there right now. Anyway, follow us on

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<v Speaker 1>social media you will find it there. Home with Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the handle for all of them, all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>All.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, let's get back to very quickly. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>explain something about mass loaded vinyl, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to the phones as promised. Right before the break, we

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<v Speaker 1>were discussing various ways of insulating for sound. Mass loaded

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<v Speaker 1>vinyl aka m l V. If you go on the YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>you will find all sorts of varying opinions about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll say, some people telling you don't use it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a rep off. Other people saying it's the silver bullet

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<v Speaker 1>that cures all ales. The fact of the matter is

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<v Speaker 1>neither one of those are correct. The truth falls somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>in between. Mass loaded vinyl is a fantastic form of insulation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very thin. It's a thin layer, a roll of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a roll of rubber, almost like a big

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<v Speaker 1>roll up yoga mat. But you will find it's yat

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<v Speaker 1>not a yoga mat when you go to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>that role because it is heavy. I mean it is dense,

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<v Speaker 1>thick rubberized vinyl material and because of that, sound works

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<v Speaker 1>extra hard to get through it. It is a fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>insulating thing that takes very little space, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like eighth of an inch thick, that can be applied

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<v Speaker 1>or stapled to the inside of studs or walls, or

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<v Speaker 1>in between layers of drywall, what have you. MLV great product,

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<v Speaker 1>very expensive product, but when getting another layer of sound

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<v Speaker 1>control is critical and space is limited, MLV is a

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<v Speaker 1>great way to go, however, just to avoid So that's

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<v Speaker 1>my full endorsement of it. Okay, we use it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it has its application. If you go to the Builder

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<v Speaker 1>Show International Builder Show and you see MLV being displayed

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<v Speaker 1>there there's a guy standing behind a table and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a box, like a two foot by two foot by

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<v Speaker 1>two foot cube, and it's covered in MLV. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny little box covered in MLV and just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there on the counter. And the guy's like, hey, did

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<v Speaker 1>you know MLV controls sound and an unbelievable way? And

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to say no, I did not. Now are

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<v Speaker 1>you demonstrating it? And he's like, just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>lift up the cube. So you reach over and you

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<v Speaker 1>lift up the cube and you find that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>speaker underneath blaring I mean blaring with sound that you

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<v Speaker 1>did not hear because the MLV was shutting it down.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is quite an impressive display and you can

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<v Speaker 1>find some of those online as well. Here's the problem, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the only problem with that is that that is an

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<v Speaker 1>optimal situation in which not only have we got complete

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<v Speaker 1>control of the insulation area of the cube, but the

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<v Speaker 1>cube is also allowing zero air penetration. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>that cube sits flat on that table, no air makes

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<v Speaker 1>it out, and that is not how your room is

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<v Speaker 1>going to work. Okay, So the idea that it goes

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<v Speaker 1>from super loud to almost inaudible has as much to

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<v Speaker 1>do with shutting down the airflow between those two spaces

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<v Speaker 1>as it has to do with the wonder that is MLV.

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<v Speaker 1>So all I'm saying is the demonstration is quite effective,

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<v Speaker 1>but the idea that, oh my gosh, I can take

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<v Speaker 1>this home and it's going to make my room sound

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same way. No, no, not as long as

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<v Speaker 1>oxygen moves in between your room and the next room,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's a gap under the door, or there are

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<v Speaker 1>windows and what have you. Just wanted to let you

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Okay, all right, let's go to the phones.

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<v Speaker 1>Get started with the calls, because it's time. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Mollie. Hey, Molly, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we have an enclosed patio with a spa and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like a sunroom and we're living in the Dutch

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<v Speaker 4>in Las Vegas and we're trying to cool down that room.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got two fans, but it's not enough. And I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know it's something like a partico swamp cooler thing

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<v Speaker 4>or I don't know anything about that stuff. I just

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<v Speaker 4>wondered what your advice was.

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<v Speaker 1>My advice is in Vegas, or a sun room with

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<v Speaker 1>a with a spa, a water spot like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a hot tub. That's what we're talking about, not a sawn,

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<v Speaker 1>a hot tub.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a swimming with a spot, yes, with a jacuzzi,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a four season Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's great. Uh and uh so yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>need air conditioning in there. Uh and if you really

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<v Speaker 1>really want to get control of the temperature, you need

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning. And in Vegas, you know, in the high desert,

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<v Speaker 1>you may actually want to to uh, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>heating in there during the freezing cold months as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but air conditioning. So my recommendation would be something small. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you could do an in room air conditioner, a portable one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to have to find a way to vent

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<v Speaker 1>that outside. Or uh you install what's called mini split,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just a small cassette based fully functional air

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<v Speaker 1>conditioner and a mini split of most mini splits these

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<v Speaker 1>days come configured also as heat pumps, which means they

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<v Speaker 1>can work in reverse and they can gently heat the

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<v Speaker 1>room during the coldest months as well. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The spa is putting off, the jacuzzi is putting off

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of humidity in the room, okay, and a

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioner will dry that out, will help to dry

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<v Speaker 1>that out. The fans are fine, But again I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just for educational purposes. I want everybody, as we're rolling

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<v Speaker 1>into summer here, I might as well say this. I

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<v Speaker 1>was saving some of this for our HVAC show, which

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up very shortly. But a fan. Fans are great,

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<v Speaker 1>but fans do not cool the air. They cool you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can put ten fans inside high power fans

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<v Speaker 1>inside a room and look at the thermometer and come

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<v Speaker 1>back three hours later and find out that the air

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<v Speaker 1>is the exact same temperature then when you left it,

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<v Speaker 1>because all we're doing is moving the air around the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on a human being who has skin, who is

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<v Speaker 1>made up of over seventy percent water, and we perspire

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<v Speaker 1>through our skin. I'm not just talking sweat. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about moisture, leaving every square inch of our skin all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. A fan blowing across our skin accelerates the

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<v Speaker 1>evaporative process, and that cools us. So fans when they're

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<v Speaker 1>pointed at you, make you feel cooler. But they have

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<v Speaker 1>no illusions about this. That fan is only cooling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Off your sense of cool. It is not actually reducing

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<v Speaker 1>the air temperature in the room. So if we really

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<v Speaker 1>want to get control of the air temperature environment in

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<v Speaker 1>a room, we actually have to take heat out of

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<v Speaker 1>the room. And the only thing that's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>that is an air conditioner.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I kind of thought so, but you kind of baltadated.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for your.

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<v Speaker 1>Help, Mollie. Thank you so much for your question, and

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<v Speaker 1>good luck out there in Vegas with a sunroom and

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<v Speaker 1>the jacuzzie in the sun in the desert where it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hot.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, y'all, you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp

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<v Speaker 2>on demand from KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Overall. Today on the program, we're talking about controlling sound

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<v Speaker 1>around your house, and we'll get back to that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>But the middle hour of the show, traditionally this is

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<v Speaker 1>when we take calls and you set the agenda, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I want to get back to it. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Jamie. Hey, Jamie, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a question concerning an outdoor drain that I

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<v Speaker 5>have in the yard and I think it's filled with

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<v Speaker 5>you know, dust and dirt at this point, but I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know how to take the drain cover off the drain.

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<v Speaker 5>The drain cover is similar to the one that you

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<v Speaker 5>have in the bathroom and shower. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 5>how to get it out, so I can maybe run

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<v Speaker 5>the drain snake to find where the issue might be.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So when we say a dream, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a yard dream. We're talking about an outdoor sync.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we lose her? Oh? Oh we love Okay, all right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a callback. We'll come back to you, I promise.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on for the moment. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk to Mike. Hey, Mike, welcome home. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's you my friend?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, I have a question about about the efficiency

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<v Speaker 6>efficient use of my house. How can I get educated

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<v Speaker 6>on more efficient use of my thirteen hundred square foot house? It's, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it's small, and so I just feel like

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not using the house as efficiently as I should

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<v Speaker 6>be able to. We're running out of space, basically, He's

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<v Speaker 6>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you, I got you, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>smaller spaces I mean? I live in a thirteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>square foot house. Three thirteen. Well, I'm sorry, my house

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<v Speaker 1>is bigger than yours thirteen eighty We have thirteen hundred

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<v Speaker 6>But oh you got a huge house.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's massive. Okay, you know what, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>reality too. Both of our houses are very large by

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<v Speaker 1>European standards. You know. You know, I've got friends who

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<v Speaker 1>live in Sheffield, England, and every time they hear me saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my dinky, little thirteen hundred square foot house,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, Dean, we would die for that thirteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>square feet. And they've got a you know, four family

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<v Speaker 1>members living in what they've got. So anyway, it's all relative.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all relative, but relative to the US. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I have smaller homes, and when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>smaller homes, design is even more important than in larger ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And that shocks some people. Here to here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to take this. Take this from a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who regularly works on jumbo houses. All right, a state

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<v Speaker 1>level homes. If I've got ten, twelve, fifteen thousand square

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<v Speaker 1>feet to work with, does it matter whether the hallway

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<v Speaker 1>is five feet wide or six feet wide or seven

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<v Speaker 1>feet wide or you know, not really, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of room to waste and that doesn't make me

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<v Speaker 1>a lazy designer when it comes to those things. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is, you know, we can fill around with

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<v Speaker 1>lots of things and it doesn't have a tremendous effect,

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<v Speaker 1>but the smallerest space gets It's why I love designing

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<v Speaker 1>small spaces because it's truly a challenge. It's a game

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<v Speaker 1>comes to a smaller space, design is everything. It can

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<v Speaker 1>make all the world of difference. So if your question is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how do you make how do you learn

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<v Speaker 1>to make more efficient use of the space? Well, how

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<v Speaker 1>would you learn that? You can do some studying on it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can keep listening to this show because I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that all the time. Or you turn around and

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself a designer. I mean, Tina and I can

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<v Speaker 1>do a design consult for you, but you hire a

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So what an interior designer or a house designer,

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<v Speaker 6>what you talking about yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>An interior designer or what we would call an architectural designer.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say either one of the two architect

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<v Speaker 1>and an architectural designer or an architect. The difference is

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<v Speaker 1>how much of the structure we are fiddling with as designers.

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<v Speaker 1>I am what In every other state other than the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Right, Other states embrace the term architectural designer.

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<v Speaker 1>In the state of California, you can actually get in

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<v Speaker 1>come at me, come get me. It's the truth anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that. An architectural designer is somebody who or

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<v Speaker 1>configurations or room configurations if that's what the flow problem requires.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean that as a as a dig

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<v Speaker 1>on decorators. I'm just saying decorators don't move walls, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't rearrange bathrooms, but they they reappoint them furniture, wall coverings,

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<v Speaker 1>paint colors, flooring surfaces, all of that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're all and Tina's commenting here, but I can't hear,

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<v Speaker 7>There's also the option of hiring someone to come in

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<v Speaker 7>what do you want.

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<v Speaker 1>To what do you want to say? If that's the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be a problem too.

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<v Speaker 7>So not ever seeing your home, you know, all those

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I think maybe the maybe for for you, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>they can tell you. It's kind of like going to

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they refer you to a specialist, maybe they take

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'm consult with who now?

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<v Speaker 1>A console with a designer? Interior designer, architectural designer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>either one.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, I knew you'd be able to answer

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<v Speaker 6>that question. And I got one more thing I want

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<v Speaker 6>to say. I've got I bet I've got something here

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<v Speaker 6>that you guys don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, what's it? What is it?

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<v Speaker 6>I've got a genuine July twenty twenty, two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 6>Bill Handle tans anniversary Decade of Dreams and the Dreams

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<v Speaker 6>is cross out And they wrote in crap I got

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<v Speaker 6>this from Bill Handle when he was out in Menifee

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<v Speaker 6>a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, congratulations, do you have one of those?

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<v Speaker 1>You win? No? No, not only do I not have one,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know one.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I'm trying to wear it out, but it just

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<v Speaker 6>seems like it just keeps going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well just like Bill right, Okay, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you very much. Yeah, any host on

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<v Speaker 1>KFI that you open up for a Bill handle joke,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen. It's like, you know, you open

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<v Speaker 1>the gate, We're going to drive through it. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way it works around here. All right, y'all, more

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<v Speaker 1>of your calls when we return.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>My brain getting ahead of my mouth, as is often

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<v Speaker 1>the case. You are Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us on the pro We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>taking control of sound in your home. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the show, that middle part of the

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<v Speaker 1>show where you are setting the topic with your calls. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a couple of calls that I've got to honor.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get back to Jamie, but Judith called

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<v Speaker 1>in last week, couldn't get through, and so I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to honor Judith. Keep our promises to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get back to Jamie right after that. Judith, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, hello, Hi, thanks for taking my call. Pock question.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm redoing. I'm remodeling. I'm redoing the floor and then

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<v Speaker 3>in the living room and it's a layout so the

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<v Speaker 3>living room is open to the kitchen area dining room area.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm planning to redo the kitchen, to remodel the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 3>but not right now, maybe in a year. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if i'd like to have the flooring the

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<v Speaker 3>same everywhere. Is that okay? To put the flooring in

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<v Speaker 3>before I do redo the cabinet and everything. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait for the flooring in the kitchen until

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<v Speaker 3>the cabinet and everything is done. That's my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good question. Good question. So I've got a question

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<v Speaker 1>in return. When you redo the kitchen, are you imagining

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<v Speaker 1>that you're changing the kitchen configuration at all or you're

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<v Speaker 1>just pulling out the existing cabinets that are there, putting

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<v Speaker 1>new ones in their place.

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<v Speaker 8>How's that going to look at Yeah, it's probably ninety

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<v Speaker 8>percent that's gonna stay the same, But I'm not one

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<v Speaker 8>hundred percent sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's an honest answer. Second question, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flooring are we talking about us that's running from the

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<v Speaker 1>living room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm putting the latterly vinyl.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You said the magic words, luxury vinyl plank. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's my advice to you, Judith, I give you full permission.

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<v Speaker 1>Do all the flooring right now. Do it all, run

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<v Speaker 1>it all through so you can enjoy all of it

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But do this, okay. Make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't just buy enough to cover exactly what the current

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<v Speaker 1>layout is, but buy a few boxes extra so that

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<v Speaker 1>when the time comes to change up the kitchen, we

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<v Speaker 1>can make some alterations. And we've got some new planks

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<v Speaker 1>to fill in and pull out and so on, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can make the adjustments of time. The nice thing

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<v Speaker 1>about luxury vinyl plank is that it's a floating floor.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes, It lays over the top of your slab

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<v Speaker 1>or your subfloor, like carpeting does. It's click locked into place,

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<v Speaker 1>which means it can also be unclicked and removed and

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<v Speaker 1>changed and reconfigured without tearing up everything. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be a substantial gap in between the

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<v Speaker 1>work that you're doing on the house right now and

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<v Speaker 1>the work that is coming later for the kitchen, Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>run all the floor, enjoy it, live in your new stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and just to you know, enjoy all of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when the time comes, you know that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple boxes of planks, you know, in the garage

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<v Speaker 1>waiting in case you change the cabinet configuration on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in the kitchen, and you know that it's no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We can take up what's there and if there's something

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<v Speaker 1>can lay down that are going to match and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>have my full permission to enjoy one half of your

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<v Speaker 1>remodeling now and the other when it comes. Judah, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for the question. Really good question. Good, good, good, good question.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Uh, Jamie is back with me. Jamie are

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<v Speaker 1>you there?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, thank you for picking up again. My drain is

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<v Speaker 5>an outside door drain on the ground. It's next to

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<v Speaker 5>my pool equipment that my husband uses sometimes to drain

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<v Speaker 5>whatever he needs to drain out, but it's not draining

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<v Speaker 5>at the time because I put followly built with diaster

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<v Speaker 5>or dirt, and I can't stick a.

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<v Speaker 1>Drain snake to wind out cover over the top, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly, It's like a shower grill.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, So is there a screw in the center

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<v Speaker 1>of it?

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably a screw, but I don't have a tool.

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<v Speaker 5>Do I need a tool?

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<v Speaker 1>the screws. There either two just below the slots on

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<v Speaker 1>undo those screws and lift that cover off. But if

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a standard kind of exterior drain deck drain,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's a very good chance that that is a insert.

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<v Speaker 1>That grill is an insert that's that's sitting down inside

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<v Speaker 1>the pipe that it's slid into place. Now it's not

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<v Speaker 1>glued in, it's just slid in, okay, and so in

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<v Speaker 1>that it's been there, and it might, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>of grit and grime and age and expansion and contraction

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<v Speaker 1>and heat and cold, it might be a bit what

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<v Speaker 1>we call frozen in place there. So if it's that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a of a grate, you could get a

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<v Speaker 1>pair of pliers. Gotta be careful if it's PVC as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to metal. If it's metal, you can be a

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more gentle. So there's two ways

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<v Speaker 1>to approach this. You can get a pair of plyers

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<v Speaker 1>and grab on to one of the slots with the plyers,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, give it a little twist and tug

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<v Speaker 1>and see if you can't get any movement out of

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<v Speaker 1>it as it in order to lift it out of there,

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<v Speaker 1>or or if if that doesn't affect anything, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want you to chew it all up with the

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<v Speaker 1>plyers too visually, then another trick is to take a

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<v Speaker 1>of bend it into a hook shape, slide it down

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<v Speaker 1>through one of the far edge slots all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to the edge and see if you can't, then lift

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<v Speaker 1>it back up so that the little hook that you've

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<v Speaker 1>the other far edge slat. In other words, we've kind

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<v Speaker 1>with your hand or grab that with a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>pliers and pull so that it's pulling tension more evenly

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<v Speaker 1>across it. But I guarantee you that thing will come out.

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<v Speaker 1>It is probably just what we call a tension insert

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<v Speaker 1>down inside the pipe that it is serving, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>if they haven't been removed regularly, it just takes a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of effort and tugging and so on in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get it done. But there you go, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right up against a break. Thank you for the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for calling back. I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 1>us or you who cut us off, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>we got back to it. That's your best shot. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to that, you'll either see the screws that

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<v Speaker 1>need to be removed. They won't be hidden, or it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tension fitting. You just need to get something looped

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<v Speaker 1>in underneath it and give it a good tug. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all when we return more of your calls.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course there's always something happening in the world

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<v Speaker 1>hear everything that you need to know, including just letting

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<v Speaker 1>you know right after we are done today at noon,

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<v Speaker 1>KFI is going to be doing special coverage because of

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<v Speaker 1>the Iran bombing and the plan d DTLA Downtown LA

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<v Speaker 1>protest that's starting at noon today. We will have special

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<v Speaker 1>coverage of all of that starting at noon. From noon

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<v Speaker 1>to two it'll be Tiffany Hobbes and Michael Monks and

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<v Speaker 1>from two to four Gary Hoffman. So stay tuned. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got coverage of everything that's happening out there. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am I'm just glad that we get to not be

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<v Speaker 1>preempted right now and spend the time together doing what

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<v Speaker 1>we normally love to do with you you here on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday mornings, and that is talk about that very special

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<v Speaker 1>place where you live. We're going to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation on the controlling sound just after the next break.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still have another segment here to take a

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<v Speaker 1>call or two if we can. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Wendy. Hey, Wendy, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, Dean. Good afternoon, Dean. So, first of all,

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<v Speaker 9>I'd like to say that Nicole came to the house

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<v Speaker 9>to be relocator, who's wonderful, and I believe she relocated

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<v Speaker 9>our bees from our timney to you. Is that the case,

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<v Speaker 9>just so a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you know what, Yes, that did happen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They are fantastic. They're just absolutely fantastic. Nicole Palladino. Bee

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<v Speaker 1>Catchers not a sponsor of the show, but a huge

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<v Speaker 1>I am a huge, huge fan. They serve all of

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<v Speaker 1>southern California. If you've got bees that have invaded your home,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about a swarm outside. That's a different thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they're in your home like they were in

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy's chimney or something where they shouldn't be, then don't

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<v Speaker 1>call a pest control company called bee Catchers because they

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<v Speaker 1>will take care. They'll remove everything that needs to be removed.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll also save the bees and give them a new home, which,

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<v Speaker 1>in Wendy's case is my backyard. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea that's the world, right, six degrees

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<v Speaker 1>of separation or less? You know I have it is

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<v Speaker 1>I've adopted your bees.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I know they're in good hands. And how miraculous

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<v Speaker 9>is those bees the way they form their home? You know,

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<v Speaker 9>just in a couple of weeks, a few of them

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<v Speaker 9>that looked like they were just going in and searching,

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<v Speaker 9>had no idea there was a huge form of them.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's a really beautiful thing that they're now with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and let me tell you, I've got a really,

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<v Speaker 1>really nice hive. And so they are having a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more fun here now than they were in your chimney.

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<v Speaker 1>They were making do in your chimney, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>how much happier? So anyway, all right, so how.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I help We're all happy?

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<v Speaker 9>Well, my question is this, and it's more like this

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<v Speaker 9>confusion if you can help sort it out? So I'm

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<v Speaker 9>looking for First of all, my house is as green

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<v Speaker 9>as possible, what I mean, as I'm trying to do

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<v Speaker 9>it chemical free, voc free.

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<v Speaker 3>So right now I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Struggling with the engineered wood and wood flooring, and I

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<v Speaker 9>need to go with that, I'm told because of our

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<v Speaker 9>homes in our particular area and shadow oaks, and cannot

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<v Speaker 9>do real woods. So I just learned and now confused

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<v Speaker 9>about whether it should be cold pressed to last longer,

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<v Speaker 9>whether it should have built in layer of wood beneath

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<v Speaker 9>it so I don't have to use the plywood first

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<v Speaker 9>put that down, which I'd rather not do because I

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<v Speaker 9>don't want to use the plywood. And then there are

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<v Speaker 9>all these processes like whether it's cold pressed, or it

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<v Speaker 9>is cured with smoke, or it's cured with ammonia. Can

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<v Speaker 9>you tell me what all that means and what's going

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<v Speaker 9>to be the greenest, the most resilient. I don't want scratches,

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<v Speaker 9>even though we don't have any pets or kids and

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<v Speaker 9>we take our shoes off. But I'm really, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>having a hard time de signing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that is a huge, huge conversation to have, Wendy.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is, because they are right. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to disappoint. I'm just saying it is. It's a big

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<v Speaker 1>conversation to have. But I will tell you this. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me try and simplify it for you. You're looking to

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<v Speaker 1>put in a hardwood floor. Correct, Yes, Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to I want to correct a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>terms that you used. Okay, you are going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a real wood hard a real hardwood floor. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a real hardwood floor. The old, the old idea of

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<v Speaker 1>like old solid hardwood, we have let go of that

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<v Speaker 1>a long, long, long long time ago. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you that, as far as in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>green is considered, any any high quality hardwood floor is

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<v Speaker 1>a adequate and green option for you. And I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 1>Because traditional hardwood floors, and traditional I mean going back

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years, three quarter inch thick solid wood floors,

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<v Speaker 1>white oak, red oak, whatever the material might be, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a kind of floor that eats up a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of tree, a lot of tree in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get those right. And they are also very very susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>to moisture, to cupping, to bowing, because it's one piece

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<v Speaker 1>of wood and moisture gets into the grain and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing there to resist that wood doing what it naturally does,

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<v Speaker 1>which is if moisture gets on one side, it expands

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<v Speaker 1>that side, and then the other side, which is dryer,

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<v Speaker 1>ends up cupped, okay, because one side literally grows larger

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<v Speaker 1>than the other side, and we get this curved thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is disastrous. There's this old school thought. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>that was real hardwood floors, not this plywood these days. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. There's a reason for it, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One, Not only does an engineered floor, which is

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<v Speaker 1>primarily made out of what we call plywoods, an engineered

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<v Speaker 1>floor is a far superior floor. Number one, it's far

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<v Speaker 1>superior because it uses less tree. Okay, that's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, with all those thin layers. Number two,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point of an engineered floor is that the

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<v Speaker 1>layers of plywood are set at forty five degree angles

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<v Speaker 1>to each other, each layer each succeeding layer, and so

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<v Speaker 1>as moisture attacks that piece of flooring, every layer wants

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<v Speaker 1>to expand in a different direction, and every layer is

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<v Speaker 1>pressed and glued to every other layer, and therefore none

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<v Speaker 1>of the layers get to do anything because they're all

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<v Speaker 1>expand against each other, and as a result, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>far more stable piece of flooring. Third thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>right on top of that plywood base, that engineered base

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<v Speaker 1>is a real solid layer of whatever you're finished wood is.

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<v Speaker 1>And the point that I make to people all the

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<v Speaker 1>time is that three quarter inch old red oak floor

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<v Speaker 1>that you think, Yeah, that thing's so thick it could

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<v Speaker 1>be resanded fifty times. No, no, it can't be. Because

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<v Speaker 1>the only part of that floor, even though it's one

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<v Speaker 1>solid piece of wood, the only part of that floor

567
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<v Speaker 1>that can that determines how much it can be resanded

568
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<v Speaker 1>and refinished through the years is the is the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of that floor which sticks above the tongue and the groove,

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<v Speaker 1>because we can only finish this, We can only stand

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<v Speaker 1>this floor down until we run the risk of exposing

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<v Speaker 1>the tongueung in the groove, and then it's done. Which

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<v Speaker 1>means that the average old school traditional hardwood floor has

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<v Speaker 1>about three sixteenths of an inch of a ware layer,

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<v Speaker 1>of a true wear layer that is actually interactive with

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<v Speaker 1>you the homeowner, and with refinishing, and a really good

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<v Speaker 1>quality modern engineered floor has in fact a six millimeter

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<v Speaker 1>ware layer. Those are got the best that they come

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<v Speaker 1>in six millimeters, which is essentially pretty close to three

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenths of an inch. And so the point is an

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<v Speaker 1>engineered hardwood floor, this is what you're looking for, you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for low VOC glues that that'll be advertised with

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<v Speaker 1>the brand cold pressed. It can be cold pressed, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be hot pressed. But my main concern is low

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<v Speaker 1>VOC volatile organic compound off gasing. That's as green as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets low VOC grooves. But here is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. The best quality hardwood floors that have ever

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<v Speaker 1>existed on planet Earth have these components. They are you

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<v Speaker 1>want the thickest ware layer, so you want a minimum

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<v Speaker 1>of four millimeters of war layer, ideally six millimeters of

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<v Speaker 1>ware layer. That's the actual finish wood. And then underneath

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<v Speaker 1>that you want the most plot layers of ply. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really what makes the difference. There are cheap hardwood

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<v Speaker 1>floors out there that have a thick ware layer on

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<v Speaker 1>top and there's three layers of ply. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>three layers underneath. That's not enough. When I say multiple

597
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<v Speaker 1>layers of ply, I'm talking nine to eleven layers of ply. Okay,

598
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<v Speaker 1>that's a stable hardwood floor with a thick ware layer.

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<v Speaker 1>It is gold. It is just it's as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets, and it's good as it can be. And

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<v Speaker 1>by definition UH it is UH. It is a green

602
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<v Speaker 1>product because we are using UH more of uh, I

603
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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say scrap, but more of ancillary wood

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<v Speaker 1>from every tree in order to get those thin layers

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<v Speaker 1>of ply and less of the heartwood.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, one quick other question, I know I gotta I've

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<v Speaker 9>got to go, and so Hugh, of course, which I

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<v Speaker 9>meant is that everything you said is great. Now, what

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<v Speaker 9>about amusing a name brand? And I know you don't

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<v Speaker 9>endorse them, but I'm just giving you an example in

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<v Speaker 9>case you've seen it, Cosablanca and it has one really

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<v Speaker 9>thick layer of wood and it uses no formaldehyde and

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<v Speaker 9>it's glue and no voc but it has one really

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<v Speaker 9>really thick piece of baby plywood underneath that four millimeter thick,

615
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<v Speaker 9>which I'm going to try and find a six milimeter brand.

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<v Speaker 9>Is that any better for the sustainability I mean, sorry,

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<v Speaker 9>the longevity of the wood?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wendy, I know you got to go. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go too, because I'm up against a break. I promise

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<v Speaker 1>I will give you the answer to this off the

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this on the air, off the call, right

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the brake. So you keep

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<v Speaker 1>listening and everybody else you keep listening to your home

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<v Speaker 1>with Dean Sharp the House Whisper on KFI. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Tune into

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<v Speaker 1>the live broadcast on KFI AM six forty every Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>morning from six to eight Pacific time, and every Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>morning from nine to noon Pacific time, or anytime on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app
