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Speaker 1: popped up a little image of on Instagram and Facebook. Yes,
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Speaker 1: trip here very very shortly. I'm very excited. So if
Speaker 1: you want to see the hellscape that we're going to
Speaker 1: have to put up with while we're on our backpacking trip,
Speaker 1: you should go ahead. Take a look. Oh it's gorgeous.
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Speaker 2: All.
Speaker 1: Right, let's get back to very quickly. I want to
Speaker 1: explain something about mass loaded vinyl, and then we're going
Speaker 1: to the phones as promised. Right before the break, we
Speaker 1: were discussing various ways of insulating for sound. Mass loaded
Speaker 1: vinyl aka m l V. If you go on the YouTube,
Speaker 1: you will find all sorts of varying opinions about it.
Speaker 1: You'll say, some people telling you don't use it, it's
Speaker 1: a rep off. Other people saying it's the silver bullet
Speaker 1: that cures all ales. The fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: neither one of those are correct. The truth falls somewhere
Speaker 1: in between. Mass loaded vinyl is a fantastic form of insulation.
Speaker 1: It's very thin. It's a thin layer, a roll of it. It
Speaker 1: looks like a roll of rubber, almost like a big
Speaker 1: roll up yoga mat. But you will find it's yat
Speaker 1: not a yoga mat when you go to pick up
Speaker 1: that role because it is heavy. I mean it is dense,
Speaker 1: thick rubberized vinyl material and because of that, sound works
Speaker 1: extra hard to get through it. It is a fantastic
Speaker 1: insulating thing that takes very little space, and I mean
Speaker 1: like eighth of an inch thick, that can be applied
Speaker 1: or stapled to the inside of studs or walls, or
Speaker 1: in between layers of drywall, what have you. MLV great product,
Speaker 1: very expensive product, but when getting another layer of sound
Speaker 1: control is critical and space is limited, MLV is a
Speaker 1: great way to go, however, just to avoid So that's
Speaker 1: my full endorsement of it. Okay, we use it. Okay,
Speaker 1: it has its application. If you go to the Builder
Speaker 1: Show International Builder Show and you see MLV being displayed
Speaker 1: there there's a guy standing behind a table and there's
Speaker 1: a box, like a two foot by two foot by
Speaker 1: two foot cube, and it's covered in MLV. It's just
Speaker 1: a tiny little box covered in MLV and just sitting
Speaker 1: there on the counter. And the guy's like, hey, did
Speaker 1: you know MLV controls sound and an unbelievable way? And
Speaker 1: you're supposed to say no, I did not. Now are
Speaker 1: you demonstrating it? And he's like, just go ahead and
Speaker 1: lift up the cube. So you reach over and you
Speaker 1: lift up the cube and you find that there's a
Speaker 1: speaker underneath blaring I mean blaring with sound that you
Speaker 1: did not hear because the MLV was shutting it down.
Speaker 1: And that is quite an impressive display and you can
Speaker 1: find some of those online as well. Here's the problem, Okay,
Speaker 1: the only problem with that is that that is an
Speaker 1: optimal situation in which not only have we got complete
Speaker 1: control of the insulation area of the cube, but the
Speaker 1: cube is also allowing zero air penetration. In other words,
Speaker 1: that cube sits flat on that table, no air makes
Speaker 1: it out, and that is not how your room is
Speaker 1: going to work. Okay, So the idea that it goes
Speaker 1: from super loud to almost inaudible has as much to
Speaker 1: do with shutting down the airflow between those two spaces
Speaker 1: as it has to do with the wonder that is MLV.
Speaker 1: So all I'm saying is the demonstration is quite effective,
Speaker 1: but the idea that, oh my gosh, I can take
Speaker 1: this home and it's going to make my room sound
Speaker 1: the exact same way. No, no, not as long as
Speaker 1: oxygen moves in between your room and the next room,
Speaker 1: or there's a gap under the door, or there are
Speaker 1: windows and what have you. Just wanted to let you
Speaker 1: know that. Okay, all right, let's go to the phones.
Speaker 1: Get started with the calls, because it's time. I want
Speaker 1: to talk to Mollie. Hey, Molly, welcome home.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: How can I help you?
Speaker 4: Well, we have an enclosed patio with a spa and
Speaker 4: it's like a sunroom and we're living in the Dutch
Speaker 4: in Las Vegas and we're trying to cool down that room.
Speaker 4: We've got two fans, but it's not enough. And I
Speaker 4: didn't know it's something like a partico swamp cooler thing
Speaker 4: or I don't know anything about that stuff. I just
Speaker 4: wondered what your advice was.
Speaker 1: My advice is in Vegas, or a sun room with
Speaker 1: a with a spa, a water spot like a like
Speaker 1: a hot tub. That's what we're talking about, not a sawn,
Speaker 1: a hot tub.
Speaker 4: It's a swimming with a spot, yes, with a jacuzzi,
Speaker 4: and it's a four season Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's great. Uh and uh so yeah, you
Speaker 1: need air conditioning in there. Uh and if you really
Speaker 1: really want to get control of the temperature, you need
Speaker 1: air conditioning. And in Vegas, you know, in the high desert,
Speaker 1: you may actually want to to uh, you know, some
Speaker 1: heating in there during the freezing cold months as well,
Speaker 1: but air conditioning. So my recommendation would be something small. Now,
Speaker 1: you could do an in room air conditioner, a portable one.
Speaker 1: You're going to have to find a way to vent
Speaker 1: that outside. Or uh you install what's called mini split,
Speaker 1: which is just a small cassette based fully functional air
Speaker 1: conditioner and a mini split of most mini splits these
Speaker 1: days come configured also as heat pumps, which means they
Speaker 1: can work in reverse and they can gently heat the
Speaker 1: room during the coldest months as well. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The spa is putting off, the jacuzzi is putting off
Speaker 1: a lot of humidity in the room, okay, and a
Speaker 1: air conditioner will dry that out, will help to dry
Speaker 1: that out. The fans are fine, But again I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just for educational purposes. I want everybody, as we're rolling
Speaker 1: into summer here, I might as well say this. I
Speaker 1: was saving some of this for our HVAC show, which
Speaker 1: is coming up very shortly. But a fan. Fans are great,
Speaker 1: but fans do not cool the air. They cool you.
Speaker 1: So you can put ten fans inside high power fans
Speaker 1: inside a room and look at the thermometer and come
Speaker 1: back three hours later and find out that the air
Speaker 1: is the exact same temperature then when you left it,
Speaker 1: because all we're doing is moving the air around the room.
Speaker 1: Now on a human being who has skin, who is
Speaker 1: made up of over seventy percent water, and we perspire
Speaker 1: through our skin. I'm not just talking sweat. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about moisture, leaving every square inch of our skin all
Speaker 1: the time. A fan blowing across our skin accelerates the
Speaker 1: evaporative process, and that cools us. So fans when they're
Speaker 1: pointed at you, make you feel cooler. But they have
Speaker 1: no illusions about this. That fan is only cooling you.
Speaker 1: Off your sense of cool. It is not actually reducing
Speaker 1: the air temperature in the room. So if we really
Speaker 1: want to get control of the air temperature environment in
Speaker 1: a room, we actually have to take heat out of
Speaker 1: the room. And the only thing that's going to do
Speaker 1: that is an air conditioner.
Speaker 4: Okay, I kind of thought so, but you kind of baltadated.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your.
Speaker 1: Help, Mollie. Thank you so much for your question, and
Speaker 1: good luck out there in Vegas with a sunroom and
Speaker 1: the jacuzzie in the sun in the desert where it's
Speaker 1: really hot.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp
Speaker 2: on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Overall. Today on the program, we're talking about controlling sound
Speaker 1: around your house, and we'll get back to that conversation.
Speaker 1: But the middle hour of the show, traditionally this is
Speaker 1: when we take calls and you set the agenda, and
Speaker 1: so I want to get back to it. Let's talk
Speaker 1: to Jamie. Hey, Jamie, welcome home.
Speaker 5: I have a question concerning an outdoor drain that I
Speaker 5: have in the yard and I think it's filled with
Speaker 5: you know, dust and dirt at this point, but I
Speaker 5: don't know how to take the drain cover off the drain.
Speaker 5: The drain cover is similar to the one that you
Speaker 5: have in the bathroom and shower. I just don't know
Speaker 5: how to get it out, so I can maybe run
Speaker 5: the drain snake to find where the issue might be.
Speaker 1: All right, So when we say a dream, we're not
Speaker 1: talking about a yard dream. We're talking about an outdoor sync.
Speaker 1: Did we lose her? Oh? Oh we love Okay, all right, Uh,
Speaker 1: give me a callback. We'll come back to you, I promise.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on for the moment. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Mike. Hey, Mike, welcome home. Does that
Speaker 1: mean that's you my friend?
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I have a question about about the efficiency
Speaker 6: efficient use of my house. How can I get educated
Speaker 6: on more efficient use of my thirteen hundred square foot house? It's, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, it's small, and so I just feel like
Speaker 6: I'm not using the house as efficiently as I should
Speaker 6: be able to. We're running out of space, basically, He's
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you, and you know what
Speaker 1: smaller spaces I mean? I live in a thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: square foot house. Three thirteen. Well, I'm sorry, my house
Speaker 1: is bigger than yours thirteen eighty We have thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: eighty square feet.
Speaker 6: But oh you got a huge house.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's massive. Okay, you know what, here's the
Speaker 1: reality too. Both of our houses are very large by
Speaker 1: European standards. You know. You know, I've got friends who
Speaker 1: live in Sheffield, England, and every time they hear me saying,
Speaker 1: you know, my dinky, little thirteen hundred square foot house,
Speaker 1: They're like, Dean, we would die for that thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: square feet. And they've got a you know, four family
Speaker 1: members living in what they've got. So anyway, it's all relative.
Speaker 1: It's all relative, but relative to the US. Yes, you
Speaker 1: and I have smaller homes, and when it comes to
Speaker 1: smaller homes, design is even more important than in larger ones.
Speaker 1: And that shocks some people. Here to here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean to take this. Take this from a guy
Speaker 1: who regularly works on jumbo houses. All right, a state
Speaker 1: level homes. If I've got ten, twelve, fifteen thousand square
Speaker 1: feet to work with, does it matter whether the hallway
Speaker 1: is five feet wide or six feet wide or seven
Speaker 1: feet wide or you know, not really, I got a
Speaker 1: lot of room to waste and that doesn't make me
Speaker 1: a lazy designer when it comes to those things. But
Speaker 1: the reality is, you know, we can fill around with
Speaker 1: lots of things and it doesn't have a tremendous effect,
Speaker 1: but the smallerest space gets It's why I love designing
Speaker 1: small spaces because it's truly a challenge. It's a game
Speaker 1: of inches and layout and flow. And so when it
Speaker 1: comes to a smaller space, design is everything. It can
Speaker 1: make all the world of difference. So if your question is,
Speaker 1: you know, how do you make how do you learn
Speaker 1: to make more efficient use of the space? Well, how
Speaker 1: would you learn that? You can do some studying on it.
Speaker 1: You can keep listening to this show because I talk
Speaker 1: about that all the time. Or you turn around and
Speaker 1: get yourself a designer. I mean, Tina and I can
Speaker 1: do a design consult for you, but you hire a
Speaker 1: designer to actually help you utilize all of that space
Speaker 1: to its utmost. And it's going to take some time
Speaker 1: and effort and some creative brain power to do it.
Speaker 1: But the good news is once it's done, man, it's
Speaker 1: a life changer.
Speaker 6: Okay, So what an interior designer or a house designer,
Speaker 6: what you talking about yeah.
Speaker 1: An interior designer or what we would call an architectural designer.
Speaker 1: And when I say either one of the two architect
Speaker 1: interior designer, architectural designer, it just make sure you're dealing
Speaker 1: with a designer who is willing to, if necessary, move
Speaker 1: some things around. And I don't just move furniture around,
Speaker 1: move a wall, change a wall configuration, that kind of
Speaker 1: a thing. A lot of people wonder about that, like,
Speaker 1: what's the difference between a decorator and an interior designer
Speaker 1: and an architectural designer or an architect. The difference is
Speaker 1: how much of the structure we are fiddling with as designers.
Speaker 1: I am what In every other state other than the
Speaker 1: state of California, I freely refer to myself as an
Speaker 1: architectural designer because because I'm not a licensed architect, but
Speaker 1: I'm a designer who works in the residential realm, which
Speaker 1: is fully you know, allowable to do and you know,
Speaker 1: I design homes from the ground up, roofs, walls, the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Right, Other states embrace the term architectural designer.
Speaker 1: In the state of California, you can actually get in
Speaker 1: trouble for saying that, even though I just did, so
Speaker 1: come at me, come get me. It's the truth anyway,
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. An architectural designer is somebody who or
Speaker 1: an interior designer is somebody who's willing to change wall
Speaker 1: configurations or room configurations if that's what the flow problem requires.
Speaker 1: A decorator is somebody who's only dealing with superficial things.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that as a as a dig
Speaker 1: on decorators. I'm just saying decorators don't move walls, they
Speaker 1: don't rearrange bathrooms, but they they reappoint them furniture, wall coverings,
Speaker 1: paint colors, flooring surfaces, all of that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So they're all and Tina's commenting here, but I can't hear,
Speaker 1: so I'm turning your mic up.
Speaker 7: There's also the option of hiring someone to come in
Speaker 7: and help you organize your space as far as storage
Speaker 7: and clutter and what do you need to get rid of,
Speaker 7: what do you want.
Speaker 1: To what do you want to say? If that's the problem,
Speaker 1: that could be a problem too.
Speaker 7: So not ever seeing your home, you know, all those
Speaker 7: steps probably need to be taken into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think maybe the maybe for for you, Mike,
Speaker 1: maybe the first thing is to get a consult with
Speaker 1: a designer so that you can get a sense and
Speaker 1: they can tell you. It's kind of like going to
Speaker 1: your GP, your general practitioner. You're like, I've got this ache,
Speaker 1: I've got this thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe they refer you to a specialist, maybe they take
Speaker 1: care of it themselves. But it's a good idea to
Speaker 1: get a doctor's eyes on that and then get a
Speaker 1: referral that way.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm consult with who now?
Speaker 1: A console with a designer? Interior designer, architectural designer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: either one.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, I knew you'd be able to answer
Speaker 6: that question. And I got one more thing I want
Speaker 6: to say. I've got I bet I've got something here
Speaker 6: that you guys don't have.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, what's it? What is it?
Speaker 6: I've got a genuine July twenty twenty, two thousand and three,
Speaker 6: Bill Handle tans anniversary Decade of Dreams and the Dreams
Speaker 6: is cross out And they wrote in crap I got
Speaker 6: this from Bill Handle when he was out in Menifee
Speaker 6: a few years ago.
Speaker 1: All right, well, congratulations, do you have one of those?
Speaker 1: You win? No? No, not only do I not have one,
Speaker 1: but I don't know one.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm trying to wear it out, but it just
Speaker 6: seems like it just keeps going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well just like Bill right, Okay, that's.
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. Yeah, any host on
Speaker 1: KFI that you open up for a Bill handle joke,
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It's like, you know, you open
Speaker 1: the gate, We're going to drive through it. That's just
Speaker 1: the way it works around here. All right, y'all, more
Speaker 1: of your calls when we return.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: My brain getting ahead of my mouth, as is often
Speaker 1: the case. You are Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the pro We're talking about
Speaker 1: taking control of sound in your home. We're going to
Speaker 1: return to that in just a bit, but we're in
Speaker 1: that part of the show, that middle part of the
Speaker 1: show where you are setting the topic with your calls. Now,
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of calls that I've got to honor.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to Jamie, but Judith called
Speaker 1: in last week, couldn't get through, and so I'm going
Speaker 1: to honor Judith. Keep our promises to give you a
Speaker 1: fast pass to the front of the line and then
Speaker 1: we'll get back to Jamie right after that. Judith, welcome home.
Speaker 3: Oh, hello, Hi, thanks for taking my call. Pock question.
Speaker 3: I'm redoing. I'm remodeling. I'm redoing the floor and then
Speaker 3: in the living room and it's a layout so the
Speaker 3: living room is open to the kitchen area dining room area.
Speaker 3: Now I'm planning to redo the kitchen, to remodel the kitchen,
Speaker 3: but not right now, maybe in a year. And I
Speaker 3: don't know if i'd like to have the flooring the
Speaker 3: same everywhere. Is that okay? To put the flooring in
Speaker 3: before I do redo the cabinet and everything. Oh, I
Speaker 3: have to wait for the flooring in the kitchen until
Speaker 3: the cabinet and everything is done. That's my question.
Speaker 1: Okay, good question. Good question. So I've got a question
Speaker 1: in return. When you redo the kitchen, are you imagining
Speaker 1: that you're changing the kitchen configuration at all or you're
Speaker 1: just pulling out the existing cabinets that are there, putting
Speaker 1: new ones in their place.
Speaker 8: How's that going to look at Yeah, it's probably ninety
Speaker 8: percent that's gonna stay the same, But I'm not one
Speaker 8: hundred percent sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's an honest answer. Second question, what kind of
Speaker 1: flooring are we talking about us that's running from the
Speaker 1: living room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm putting the latterly vinyl.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 1: You said the magic words, luxury vinyl plank. Okay. So
Speaker 1: here's my advice to you, Judith, I give you full permission.
Speaker 1: Do all the flooring right now. Do it all, run
Speaker 1: it all through so you can enjoy all of it
Speaker 1: right now. But do this, okay. Make sure that you
Speaker 1: don't just buy enough to cover exactly what the current
Speaker 1: layout is, but buy a few boxes extra so that
Speaker 1: when the time comes to change up the kitchen, we
Speaker 1: can make some alterations. And we've got some new planks
Speaker 1: to fill in and pull out and so on, so
Speaker 1: you can make the adjustments of time. The nice thing
Speaker 1: about luxury vinyl plank is that it's a floating floor.
Speaker 1: It goes, It lays over the top of your slab
Speaker 1: or your subfloor, like carpeting does. It's click locked into place,
Speaker 1: which means it can also be unclicked and removed and
Speaker 1: changed and reconfigured without tearing up everything. And so if
Speaker 1: there's going to be a substantial gap in between the
Speaker 1: work that you're doing on the house right now and
Speaker 1: the work that is coming later for the kitchen, Go ahead,
Speaker 1: run all the floor, enjoy it, live in your new stuff,
Speaker 1: and just to you know, enjoy all of that. And
Speaker 1: then when the time comes, you know that you've got
Speaker 1: a couple boxes of planks, you know, in the garage
Speaker 1: waiting in case you change the cabinet configuration on the
Speaker 1: ground in the kitchen, and you know that it's no problem.
Speaker 1: We can take up what's there and if there's something
Speaker 1: in the way, and then I've got extras that we
Speaker 1: can lay down that are going to match and it'll
Speaker 1: fit to the new configuration. And there you go. You
Speaker 1: have my full permission to enjoy one half of your
Speaker 1: remodeling now and the other when it comes. Judah, thanks
Speaker 1: for the question. Really good question. Good, good, good, good question.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Jamie is back with me. Jamie are
Speaker 1: you there?
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you for picking up again. My drain is
Speaker 5: an outside door drain on the ground. It's next to
Speaker 5: my pool equipment that my husband uses sometimes to drain
Speaker 5: whatever he needs to drain out, but it's not draining
Speaker 5: at the time because I put followly built with diaster
Speaker 5: or dirt, and I can't stick a.
Speaker 1: Drain snake to wind out cover over the top, right.
Speaker 5: Exactly, It's like a shower grill.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So is there a screw in the center
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 5: No, I don't see it screw on it. I'm thinking
Speaker 5: it's probably a screw, but I don't have a tool.
Speaker 5: Do I need a tool?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. If it is screwed into place,
Speaker 1: if it's if the drain cover or the grill is
Speaker 1: removable because it's been screwed into place, you will see
Speaker 1: the screws. There either two just below the slots on
Speaker 1: the far edges of the drain that you'll see, or
Speaker 1: there's one right smack dab in the middle. And if
Speaker 1: that's the case, all you need is a screwdriver to
Speaker 1: undo those screws and lift that cover off. But if
Speaker 1: we're talking about a standard kind of exterior drain deck drain,
Speaker 1: then there's a very good chance that that is a insert.
Speaker 1: That grill is an insert that's that's sitting down inside
Speaker 1: the pipe that it's slid into place. Now it's not
Speaker 1: glued in, it's just slid in, okay, and so in
Speaker 1: it may have never been removed and the whole time
Speaker 1: that it's been there, and it might, you know, because
Speaker 1: of grit and grime and age and expansion and contraction
Speaker 1: and heat and cold, it might be a bit what
Speaker 1: we call frozen in place there. So if it's that
Speaker 1: kind of a of a grate, you could get a
Speaker 1: pair of pliers. Gotta be careful if it's PVC as
Speaker 1: opposed to metal. If it's metal, you can be a
Speaker 1: little bit more aggressive with it, but if it's if
Speaker 1: it's a plastic sort of grill, then you want to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more gentle. So there's two ways
Speaker 1: to approach this. You can get a pair of plyers
Speaker 1: and grab on to one of the slots with the plyers,
Speaker 1: and you know, give it a little twist and tug
Speaker 1: and see if you can't get any movement out of
Speaker 1: it as it in order to lift it out of there,
Speaker 1: or or if if that doesn't affect anything, and I
Speaker 1: don't want you to chew it all up with the
Speaker 1: plyers too visually, then another trick is to take a
Speaker 1: wire coat hanger or a strong piece of wire, kind
Speaker 1: of bend it into a hook shape, slide it down
Speaker 1: through one of the far edge slots all the way
Speaker 1: to the edge and see if you can't, then lift
Speaker 1: it back up so that the little hook that you've
Speaker 1: created comes up through the other, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the other far edge slat. In other words, we've kind
Speaker 1: of looped down underneath through the slats. Pull the wire
Speaker 1: up good on both sides, and then either grab that
Speaker 1: with your hand or grab that with a pair of
Speaker 1: pliers and pull so that it's pulling tension more evenly
Speaker 1: across it. But I guarantee you that thing will come out.
Speaker 1: It is probably just what we call a tension insert
Speaker 1: down inside the pipe that it is serving, and sometimes
Speaker 1: if they haven't been removed regularly, it just takes a
Speaker 1: little bit of effort and tugging and so on in
Speaker 1: order to get it done. But there you go, Jamie,
Speaker 1: I'm right up against a break. Thank you for the question.
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling back. I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: us or you who cut us off, but I'm glad
Speaker 1: we got back to it. That's your best shot. When
Speaker 1: it comes to that, you'll either see the screws that
Speaker 1: need to be removed. They won't be hidden, or it's
Speaker 1: a tension fitting. You just need to get something looped
Speaker 1: in underneath it and give it a good tug. All right,
Speaker 1: y'all when we return more of your calls.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: And of course there's always something happening in the world
Speaker 1: to throw us off our game, and you stay tuned
Speaker 1: here to KFI, and we will make sure that you
Speaker 1: hear everything that you need to know, including just letting
Speaker 1: you know right after we are done today at noon,
Speaker 1: KFI is going to be doing special coverage because of
Speaker 1: the Iran bombing and the plan d DTLA Downtown LA
Speaker 1: protest that's starting at noon today. We will have special
Speaker 1: coverage of all of that starting at noon. From noon
Speaker 1: to two it'll be Tiffany Hobbes and Michael Monks and
Speaker 1: from two to four Gary Hoffman. So stay tuned. We've
Speaker 1: got coverage of everything that's happening out there. And I
Speaker 1: am I'm just glad that we get to not be
Speaker 1: preempted right now and spend the time together doing what
Speaker 1: we normally love to do with you you here on
Speaker 1: Sunday mornings, and that is talk about that very special
Speaker 1: place where you live. We're going to get back to
Speaker 1: our conversation on the controlling sound just after the next break.
Speaker 1: But I still have another segment here to take a
Speaker 1: call or two if we can. I want to talk
Speaker 1: to Wendy. Hey, Wendy, welcome home.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Dean. Good afternoon, Dean. So, first of all,
Speaker 9: I'd like to say that Nicole came to the house
Speaker 9: to be relocator, who's wonderful, and I believe she relocated
Speaker 9: our bees from our timney to you. Is that the case,
Speaker 9: just so a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what, Yes, that did happen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They are fantastic. They're just absolutely fantastic. Nicole Palladino. Bee
Speaker 1: Catchers not a sponsor of the show, but a huge
Speaker 1: I am a huge, huge fan. They serve all of
Speaker 1: southern California. If you've got bees that have invaded your home,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about a swarm outside. That's a different thing.
Speaker 1: But if they're in your home like they were in
Speaker 1: Wendy's chimney or something where they shouldn't be, then don't
Speaker 1: call a pest control company called bee Catchers because they
Speaker 1: will take care. They'll remove everything that needs to be removed.
Speaker 1: They'll also save the bees and give them a new home, which,
Speaker 1: in Wendy's case is my backyard. So there you go.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that's the world, right, six degrees
Speaker 1: of separation or less? You know I have it is
Speaker 1: I've adopted your bees.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Well, I know they're in good hands. And how miraculous
Speaker 9: is those bees the way they form their home? You know,
Speaker 9: just in a couple of weeks, a few of them
Speaker 9: that looked like they were just going in and searching,
Speaker 9: had no idea there was a huge form of them.
Speaker 9: So it's a really beautiful thing that they're now with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me tell you, I've got a really,
Speaker 1: really nice hive. And so they are having a lot
Speaker 1: more fun here now than they were in your chimney.
Speaker 1: They were making do in your chimney, but they are
Speaker 1: how much happier? So anyway, all right, so how.
Speaker 4: Can I help We're all happy?
Speaker 9: Well, my question is this, and it's more like this
Speaker 9: confusion if you can help sort it out? So I'm
Speaker 9: looking for First of all, my house is as green
Speaker 9: as possible, what I mean, as I'm trying to do
Speaker 9: it chemical free, voc free.
Speaker 3: So right now I'm.
Speaker 9: Struggling with the engineered wood and wood flooring, and I
Speaker 9: need to go with that, I'm told because of our
Speaker 9: homes in our particular area and shadow oaks, and cannot
Speaker 9: do real woods. So I just learned and now confused
Speaker 9: about whether it should be cold pressed to last longer,
Speaker 9: whether it should have built in layer of wood beneath
Speaker 9: it so I don't have to use the plywood first
Speaker 9: put that down, which I'd rather not do because I
Speaker 9: don't want to use the plywood. And then there are
Speaker 9: all these processes like whether it's cold pressed, or it
Speaker 9: is cured with smoke, or it's cured with ammonia. Can
Speaker 9: you tell me what all that means and what's going
Speaker 9: to be the greenest, the most resilient. I don't want scratches,
Speaker 9: even though we don't have any pets or kids and
Speaker 9: we take our shoes off. But I'm really, you know,
Speaker 9: having a hard time de signing.
Speaker 1: All right, that is a huge, huge conversation to have, Wendy.
Speaker 1: It really is, because they are right. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to disappoint. I'm just saying it is. It's a big
Speaker 1: conversation to have. But I will tell you this. Let
Speaker 1: me try and simplify it for you. You're looking to
Speaker 1: put in a hardwood floor. Correct, Yes, Okay, So I
Speaker 1: just want to I want to correct a couple of
Speaker 1: terms that you used. Okay, you are going to get
Speaker 1: a real wood hard a real hardwood floor. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: a real hardwood floor. The old, the old idea of
Speaker 1: like old solid hardwood, we have let go of that
Speaker 1: a long, long, long long time ago. And and I
Speaker 1: will tell you that, as far as in terms of
Speaker 1: green is considered, any any high quality hardwood floor is
Speaker 1: a adequate and green option for you. And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: Because traditional hardwood floors, and traditional I mean going back
Speaker 1: one hundred years, three quarter inch thick solid wood floors,
Speaker 1: white oak, red oak, whatever the material might be, that
Speaker 1: is a kind of floor that eats up a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of tree, a lot of tree in order to
Speaker 1: get those right. And they are also very very susceptible
Speaker 1: to moisture, to cupping, to bowing, because it's one piece
Speaker 1: of wood and moisture gets into the grain and there's
Speaker 1: nothing there to resist that wood doing what it naturally does,
Speaker 1: which is if moisture gets on one side, it expands
Speaker 1: that side, and then the other side, which is dryer,
Speaker 1: ends up cupped, okay, because one side literally grows larger
Speaker 1: than the other side, and we get this curved thing,
Speaker 1: which is disastrous. There's this old school thought. They're like,
Speaker 1: that was real hardwood floors, not this plywood these days. Okay,
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. There's a reason for it, all right.
Speaker 1: Number One, Not only does an engineered floor, which is
Speaker 1: primarily made out of what we call plywoods, an engineered
Speaker 1: floor is a far superior floor. Number one, it's far
Speaker 1: superior because it uses less tree. Okay, that's a great thing.
Speaker 1: In other words, with all those thin layers. Number two,
Speaker 1: the whole point of an engineered floor is that the
Speaker 1: layers of plywood are set at forty five degree angles
Speaker 1: to each other, each layer each succeeding layer, and so
Speaker 1: as moisture attacks that piece of flooring, every layer wants
Speaker 1: to expand in a different direction, and every layer is
Speaker 1: pressed and glued to every other layer, and therefore none
Speaker 1: of the layers get to do anything because they're all
Speaker 1: expand against each other, and as a result, it's a
Speaker 1: far more stable piece of flooring. Third thing is that
Speaker 1: right on top of that plywood base, that engineered base
Speaker 1: is a real solid layer of whatever you're finished wood is.
Speaker 1: And the point that I make to people all the
Speaker 1: time is that three quarter inch old red oak floor
Speaker 1: that you think, Yeah, that thing's so thick it could
Speaker 1: be resanded fifty times. No, no, it can't be. Because
Speaker 1: the only part of that floor, even though it's one
Speaker 1: solid piece of wood, the only part of that floor
Speaker 1: that can that determines how much it can be resanded
Speaker 1: and refinished through the years is the is the amount
Speaker 1: of that floor which sticks above the tongue and the groove,
Speaker 1: because we can only finish this, We can only stand
Speaker 1: this floor down until we run the risk of exposing
Speaker 1: the tongueung in the groove, and then it's done. Which
Speaker 1: means that the average old school traditional hardwood floor has
Speaker 1: about three sixteenths of an inch of a ware layer,
Speaker 1: of a true wear layer that is actually interactive with
Speaker 1: you the homeowner, and with refinishing, and a really good
Speaker 1: quality modern engineered floor has in fact a six millimeter
Speaker 1: ware layer. Those are got the best that they come
Speaker 1: in six millimeters, which is essentially pretty close to three
Speaker 1: sixteenths of an inch. And so the point is an
Speaker 1: engineered hardwood floor, this is what you're looking for, you're
Speaker 1: looking for low VOC glues that that'll be advertised with
Speaker 1: the brand cold pressed. It can be cold pressed, it
Speaker 1: can be hot pressed. But my main concern is low
Speaker 1: VOC volatile organic compound off gasing. That's as green as
Speaker 1: it gets low VOC grooves. But here is what we're
Speaker 1: looking for. The best quality hardwood floors that have ever
Speaker 1: existed on planet Earth have these components. They are you
Speaker 1: want the thickest ware layer, so you want a minimum
Speaker 1: of four millimeters of war layer, ideally six millimeters of
Speaker 1: ware layer. That's the actual finish wood. And then underneath
Speaker 1: that you want the most plot layers of ply. And
Speaker 1: that's really what makes the difference. There are cheap hardwood
Speaker 1: floors out there that have a thick ware layer on
Speaker 1: top and there's three layers of ply. In other words,
Speaker 1: three layers underneath. That's not enough. When I say multiple
Speaker 1: layers of ply, I'm talking nine to eleven layers of ply. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a stable hardwood floor with a thick ware layer.
Speaker 1: It is gold. It is just it's as good as
Speaker 1: it gets, and it's good as it can be. And
Speaker 1: by definition UH it is UH. It is a green
Speaker 1: product because we are using UH more of uh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say scrap, but more of ancillary wood
Speaker 1: from every tree in order to get those thin layers
Speaker 1: of ply and less of the heartwood.
Speaker 9: Okay, one quick other question, I know I gotta I've
Speaker 9: got to go, and so Hugh, of course, which I
Speaker 9: meant is that everything you said is great. Now, what
Speaker 9: about amusing a name brand? And I know you don't
Speaker 9: endorse them, but I'm just giving you an example in
Speaker 9: case you've seen it, Cosablanca and it has one really
Speaker 9: thick layer of wood and it uses no formaldehyde and
Speaker 9: it's glue and no voc but it has one really
Speaker 9: really thick piece of baby plywood underneath that four millimeter thick,
Speaker 9: which I'm going to try and find a six milimeter brand.
Speaker 9: Is that any better for the sustainability I mean, sorry,
Speaker 9: the longevity of the wood?
Speaker 1: Okay, Wendy, I know you got to go. I gotta
Speaker 1: go too, because I'm up against a break. I promise
Speaker 1: I will give you the answer to this off the
Speaker 1: I'll say this on the air, off the call, right
Speaker 1: on the other side of the brake. So you keep
Speaker 1: listening and everybody else you keep listening to your home
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