Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen? I'll take what.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to another Uncle Headless is Magical Mailbag Part two.
Speaker 3: I've got my buddy Nick here and we are going
Speaker 3: to go over some of the stuff that I found out.
Speaker 4: On Columbia Road and go to your emails.
Speaker 3: So, uh, let me see if this works real quick,
Speaker 3: and then we'll go to the video.
Speaker 2: Check this out.
Speaker 4: That's one of my drops.
Speaker 2: All right there, m hm.
Speaker 1: I found the baby Grave. It's called the Lonesome Grave.
Speaker 1: This was mentioned in the.
Speaker 5: Story on the Sasquatch Chronicles. They said they came out here.
Speaker 2: And heard.
Speaker 1: The cries of a.
Speaker 5: Baby March first, eighteen ninety four to August twenty sixth,
Speaker 5: eighteen ninety four.
Speaker 6: Watt Old Frank and the grains.
Speaker 1: This who's the baby grave?
Speaker 6: Drest well, Blanche, you are loved and you are missed.
Speaker 6: I would have had a great life.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was a podcast I recently heard called
Speaker 3: Sasquatch Chronicles, and this guy was relating a bunch of
Speaker 3: different stories he had heard, and then he went out
Speaker 3: to investigate at this Columbia Road and one of the
Speaker 3: places was this Columbia mansion.
Speaker 4: And then another one was this baby grave.
Speaker 3: I couldn't find the mansion or what's left of it,
Speaker 3: but I did find this really creepy kind of a
Speaker 3: deer graveyard.
Speaker 4: There was like.
Speaker 3: Maybe sixteen carcasses. I was counting the spines because you know,
Speaker 3: you don't get duplicate spines, and they had a ton
Speaker 3: of these deer just bones and just it was all
Speaker 3: spread out all over the place too. It was it
Speaker 3: was just really strange at the end of this little
Speaker 3: cul de sac area.
Speaker 2: That's yeah.
Speaker 3: So you know, I was trying to I was trying
Speaker 3: to get the signal out there, but obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: out in the middle of Wisconsin, it's not easy to
Speaker 3: get signal, and you know, us cellular's no good.
Speaker 4: So whatever, we're back.
Speaker 2: We're doing it again, making it happen. You gotta go
Speaker 2: back and get more pictures and videos of those carcasses.
Speaker 4: Right, I gotta find that mansion too.
Speaker 7: You could probably do some like with some crazy filters
Speaker 7: and like weird sound effects and noises. You could probably
Speaker 7: make some like images and video, you know, make a
Speaker 7: black and white.
Speaker 2: And just like cream.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so strange, there's so many different swampy
Speaker 3: areas in Wisconsin that have just you know, magnificent like
Speaker 3: mushrooms and animals and plants that you just would never expect,
Speaker 3: and it's just, you know, such a diverse environment.
Speaker 4: It's really cool. I mean, I don't like.
Speaker 3: The people necessarily out here so much, but let me
Speaker 3: tell you, the environment out here is just incredible. And
Speaker 3: that Baby Blanche area they said on this podcast it
Speaker 3: was I forget the episode number, but it was called
Speaker 3: Glitch in the Matrix, and they said that they found
Speaker 3: this mansion, they came.
Speaker 4: Back to it and it was completely in ruins.
Speaker 3: But before they actually talked to the occupant of this thing,
Speaker 3: and when they came back, it was completely gone. So
Speaker 3: it was like a complete glitch in time out there.
Speaker 3: So I thought, that's incredible. It's right down the street
Speaker 3: from me. I got to go check it out. And
Speaker 3: once they got done at that mansion area, they said
Speaker 3: they stopped over at this baby grave and it was
Speaker 3: exactly like he described, with that big metal crossout front
Speaker 3: that said Lonesome Grave.
Speaker 4: And you know this was a.
Speaker 3: Baby back in the eighteen nineties, did you see all
Speaker 3: those toys that people were still leaving for it, So
Speaker 3: I think I think it's sort of like an offering, like,
Speaker 3: don't be sad baby Blanche, because they hear.
Speaker 4: It crying all the time.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking, because he said they stopped at
Speaker 3: this baby grave and then they all heard it was
Speaker 3: like a deafening ear piercing a cry of a baby,
Speaker 3: and they all started crying.
Speaker 2: So they're pacifiering there, one of those.
Speaker 4: That's true. Pacifiers good.
Speaker 3: This might be before the time of pacifiers, but I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would they give babies in the eighteen
Speaker 4: nineties zero?
Speaker 2: Nothing like deal with it.
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things.
Speaker 3: It's like, not just Blanche, but her parents and probably
Speaker 3: their children. And you know, their children are dead, so
Speaker 3: why are people still leaving stuff there?
Speaker 4: You know, but.
Speaker 3: It makes sense if it's crying all the time.
Speaker 7: Well, it's probably like a real urban legend to them,
Speaker 7: the people around there regardless.
Speaker 4: Right right.
Speaker 3: I didn't talk to anybody out there, but I'd love
Speaker 3: to get their stories about this kind of stuff. So
Speaker 3: this is the mail bag episode, So let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Do you want to go with yeah?
Speaker 7: Uh so, he said, So I wanted to share this
Speaker 7: because it would be neat if anyone else had a
Speaker 7: similar experience, and I'll just oh you wanted to be anonymous?
Speaker 7: Oh well sorry, Yeah, it was a bright It was
Speaker 7: a bright, clear morning. It was entirely sober, and got
Speaker 7: up early to walk my dog and exercise. I walked
Speaker 7: down the hill to my house. When I got on
Speaker 7: the street and stopped in a patch of the morning sun,
Speaker 7: and notice my shoe was untied. As I noticed that,
Speaker 7: I got the distinct impression to turn around, like when
Speaker 7: you are out and about and feel someone is looking
Speaker 7: at you or even trying to get your attention in
Speaker 7: some way. It didn't turn around because it was early
Speaker 7: in the morning, and figured there was no one there.
Speaker 7: As it went to time my shoe, a softball sized object,
Speaker 7: maybe a little bit bigger, flew over my head. I
Speaker 7: watched a fly for like fifteen feet or so before
Speaker 7: it dipped below the hill and continued beyond the street,
Speaker 7: in which was a valley of thick pine trees. In
Speaker 7: the split second that I debated on running after it,
Speaker 7: I realized that it was gone already and would have
Speaker 7: to been useless to attempt to see it again. It
Speaker 7: was silent and brown or gray, almost like the pine
Speaker 7: bark in the tree air in the air, almost like
Speaker 7: the pine bark trees in this area. It appeared to
Speaker 7: be a very solid little globe vehicle, no propellers or
Speaker 7: any visible form of propelsion. I have no idea what
Speaker 7: it was, but when it initially happened, I regretted that
Speaker 7: turning around and also thought maybe I did sense it
Speaker 7: in some way. At least as time has passed, I
Speaker 7: feel like maybe I didn't sense it as much as
Speaker 7: it communicated to me turn around. I don't know what
Speaker 7: it was and have not heard much of this type
Speaker 7: of anomaly, but just wanted to share it if others
Speaker 7: might have experienced similar.
Speaker 2: Weird shit.
Speaker 3: That is interesting. So these orbs are really interesting. I
Speaker 3: think there's so much more to these orbs than just
Speaker 3: spirit contact, UFO.
Speaker 4: All the rest of these things.
Speaker 3: I think it's both, and you know, all of these
Speaker 3: things can be all in the same thing. So having
Speaker 3: this contact experience, I think is more than one level
Speaker 3: happening here.
Speaker 4: And I think these.
Speaker 3: Orbs really have a lot to do with the toroidal
Speaker 3: shape of energy that happens over and over and over again.
Speaker 4: So you can have.
Speaker 3: These different toroid shapes that can have overlapping segments and
Speaker 3: other different types of specific geometry. But when you get
Speaker 3: close enough to the orbs, you'll notice that there's definitely
Speaker 3: a nucleus to all of these orbs, and so paying
Speaker 3: attention to that sort of gives you an idea to
Speaker 3: the rest of the volume of energy or material going
Speaker 3: on there. And I think it's kind of interesting the coloring.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't necessarily hear too much about, you know,
Speaker 3: something that is orb like that blends into the trees.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I actually thought the color that he gave us a
Speaker 7: little It was a little different than I expected.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 7: I always have like the idea of like a white
Speaker 7: or blue orb. When he gave that color, it was like, oh,
Speaker 7: that's different.
Speaker 3: Right, I've done I've done some graveyard photography and you
Speaker 3: get a lot of orange and red coming up out
Speaker 3: of the graveyards. So there's there's lots of different variations
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 2: Well, that is wild.
Speaker 3: So this one is from a guy named Double J.
Speaker 3: If I could say his there, I don't know. It
Speaker 3: says this is a tale of one of the new
Speaker 3: beasts I encountered in the wild and occasionally wonderful Big
Speaker 3: Sky Country of Montana. I was deep into the area
Speaker 3: largely uncharted mountain regions outside of Big Sky Montana a
Speaker 3: popular winter destination, but the butt in the summertime, at
Speaker 3: least circa two thousand and one, you always know it's
Speaker 3: JJ when he uses circa I had a chartered a
Speaker 3: solo mission to some nearby mountaintop lakes that had been
Speaker 3: identified on a map as the Golden Trout Lakes. I
Speaker 3: figured I like hiking and I like some trout, so
Speaker 3: I took off for the afternoon for a long adventure
Speaker 3: from base camp at my aunt's home in Bozeman, Montana,
Speaker 3: where I would often visit on extended periods of time
Speaker 3: off duty from Nuclear missile Convoy security details at Great Falls,
Speaker 3: Montana Mailstrom AFB. Keep that in mind, folks, if you're
Speaker 3: living on Montana, you are not say from nuclear war,
Speaker 3: that's where the nukes are.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's it'll be the first place to be going
Speaker 2: for right.
Speaker 3: The heights to the top of the mountain may have
Speaker 3: exceeded the time it took me to drive ninety or
Speaker 3: so minute drive to my parking lot and hike from
Speaker 3: there to the top of the mountain to the Golden
Speaker 3: Trout Lakes, which at this point only existed in two
Speaker 3: D format on my map, with little to no interweb
Speaker 3: data available for the location because it was August two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, so I had no clue what I
Speaker 3: would discover. Once I located these Golden Trout lakes upon
Speaker 3: a light the hike and encountering no people or wildlife,
Speaker 3: I finally discovered the Golden Trout Lakes in quotes and
Speaker 3: immediately cast my fishing line in and got to work.
Speaker 3: After about an hour, I caught half a dozen big
Speaker 3: old golden trout and figured that that was a good
Speaker 3: fishing day and I didn't want to be caught up
Speaker 3: in the woods after dark. I do my best not
Speaker 3: too volunteer to become David Politest missing for one one statistic.
Speaker 3: As I'm heading back down the trail, I encounter one
Speaker 3: of the strangest beasts imaginable photo included.
Speaker 4: Let's go to that photo. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 4: It is horrifying. People. You've got to look out for
Speaker 4: this creature.
Speaker 2: You look at the way it walks. It's like so
Speaker 2: authentic it must be. You could see that it doesn't listen,
Speaker 2: looks like an outfit it must be real.
Speaker 4: This is obviously joke.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows that Cookie Monster doesn't reside in Montana, not until.
Speaker 4: Ski season at least.
Speaker 3: Plus you know, I mean, he's got certain addictions, and
Speaker 3: I don't think it's just cookies. I think he's sliding
Speaker 3: on a different kind of powdered slope, if you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Anyhow, I actually ended up encountering a
Speaker 3: big old boy scout troop who was on a lengthy
Speaker 3: hike and was stopped by to fish some golden trout
Speaker 3: lakes I saw. I told the uh scout troop the
Speaker 3: fishing was good, and they were all casting in their
Speaker 3: lines as I departed for the trail. I got back
Speaker 3: to my aunt's house and began to prep my golden
Speaker 3: trout for he keeps putting it in quotes like what
Speaker 3: are these golden trout? Like these are quotes?
Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 2: It's good. When you get to the end of it, you'll.
Speaker 4: Realize, okay.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: My aunt was also an experienced outdoors folk from Vermont
Speaker 3: to Montana Wilderness says to me, those are not golden trout.
Speaker 3: Those are an endangered species of rainbow trout. That's the
Speaker 3: red band trout. Not sure the endangered status of these
Speaker 3: trout today in Montana, but I feel like the State
Speaker 3: of my Tanna needs to name their lakes more accurately. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the lake's fault.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I can also tell you this fun fact and
Speaker 3: a fun fact that I suspect the boy Scout Troop
Speaker 3: also discovered that was some damn delicious endangered trout. Good
Speaker 3: luck in godspeed, JJ Vance. I probably shouldn't say his name.
Speaker 3: He's catching in dangered species.
Speaker 4: On the podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vice President, there's the monster.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's right there, it's cookie monster.
Speaker 3: What do we do about that? So I guess JJ
Speaker 3: is going to jail because this is it's a pretty
Speaker 3: serious crime.
Speaker 2: You know, it's weird.
Speaker 7: I don't know if if it's rainbow something that round,
Speaker 7: obviously I don't think so. But like, uh, I find
Speaker 7: an interest that when we did cover a long time ago,
Speaker 7: when we covered the Jesters, they had some fishing thing
Speaker 7: it was called the Wett Lines or whatever over in Brazil,
Speaker 7: and they their thing was that's when they were taking
Speaker 7: the girls and bringing the young girls on the boat.
Speaker 7: But the whole reason of the boat is that they're
Speaker 7: supposedly fishing for some sort of rainbow fish, I mean,
Speaker 7: and then the thing is when we're getting is that
Speaker 7: they tied a quatsu hotal and like that's a rainbow bird.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, what are we going here
Speaker 2: with this whole rainbow thing?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: And you know, the idea of rainbow and fish really
Speaker 3: brings to mind like weather patterns and like water and
Speaker 3: all the rest of this stuff is sort of I mean,
Speaker 3: there's so much that you could draw from the symbology
Speaker 3: of these streams and rivers all around you. But if
Speaker 3: you're not thinking of them symbolically, then how are you
Speaker 3: ever going to sort of make those associations. So yeah,
Speaker 3: when you're in the woods, you need to be looking
Speaker 3: for that kind of stuff. Like one of the things
Speaker 3: that I found is that while I was out there,
Speaker 3: there were these two ducks, right, and these were really special,
Speaker 3: Like it was a mallard and his I don't know
Speaker 3: what you call a female duck, but they didn't have
Speaker 3: like the classical band you know around the neck.
Speaker 4: It was more like a mohawk.
Speaker 3: And so it felt as I was approaching these things
Speaker 3: that this was sort of like a sacred spot because
Speaker 3: these two were sort of in there, and I snuck
Speaker 3: up on them, right, And so in addition to all
Speaker 3: of the corpses of these deer, you know, laying all
Speaker 3: around this area, you also have the sacred union of
Speaker 3: these two ducks. And then in my mind, I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: you know, this has got to be a pretty magical spot.
Speaker 3: If not only are you having this you know, graveyard,
Speaker 3: but also these two you know ducks sort of reproducing
Speaker 3: and having family out here that weren't aware of my presence.
Speaker 3: There's got to be some kind of an energy that is,
Speaker 3: because normally you can't sneak up on a duck. They're
Speaker 3: right on it as soon as possible. So it was
Speaker 3: it kind of gave me a sense that there was
Speaker 3: something else going on there, and I, you know, I
Speaker 3: kind of appreciated that.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they didn't worry about it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they flew off immediately, you know, once
Speaker 3: they saw me. It was it was like, get the
Speaker 3: fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: They caught us.
Speaker 3: You always have to wonder, like what other kind of
Speaker 3: encounters have the animals that you've seen in the woods
Speaker 3: had with humans, you know, because that sort of flavors
Speaker 3: how they treat you is the other encounters that they've
Speaker 3: had with people.
Speaker 2: Especially if they if they could base it off their
Speaker 2: first interrection.
Speaker 3: Right, I did see another truck parked out there. He
Speaker 3: was probably not hunting. I don't want to assume that.
Speaker 3: It's definitely in the off season, so, you know, but
Speaker 3: there are a lot of deer carcasses that were laid out,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if the Highway Department likes to
Speaker 3: dump them at a certain location or if these were
Speaker 3: natural deaths, but they had definitely been picked apart by predators.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna ask you about that. What was it you're
Speaker 7: talking about where you just went. I was gonna ask you, like,
Speaker 7: what was up with the like why was there dead
Speaker 7: deer carcasses there?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm getting out.
Speaker 4: Like, that's I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's like where they just like where the
Speaker 7: town of the Highway picks up that the ones on
Speaker 7: the fucking street and just fucking dump them there.
Speaker 3: I would think that normally, but this was so far
Speaker 3: off the beaten track that you know, they would have
Speaker 3: to be picking up deer carcasses off of these dirt
Speaker 3: roads and they don't normally do that.
Speaker 4: They just leave the deer on the dirt roads.
Speaker 3: The only time they ever pick up the deer is
Speaker 3: when they're you know, blocking traffic and stuff. So to me,
Speaker 3: it seemed like maybe it was a hunting thing. But
Speaker 3: if it was a hunting thing and they're stripping the
Speaker 3: deer of the meet and stuff, why here there were
Speaker 3: no trees to hang them on, you know, so this
Speaker 3: is not a good place to like gut the deer
Speaker 3: or anything. And if they're just taking their kills and
Speaker 3: then dumping them out here, there's lots of other places
Speaker 3: they could do that. They actually have deer collection sites
Speaker 3: out here in Wisconsin. It's you know, deer hunting is
Speaker 3: so popular out here that you could just throw them
Speaker 3: in town. One of the interesting things about that story too,
Speaker 3: from the Sasquatch Chronicles was that the lady who was
Speaker 3: a ghost that they were talking to, said that there
Speaker 3: was a town of Columbia, but there was absolutely no Columbia.
Speaker 4: Town anywhere near this place.
Speaker 3: This is way out on the sticks, and so she says,
Speaker 3: if you follow this road, you'll hit the town of Columbia.
Speaker 3: And I didn't see any town, so there might be
Speaker 3: a ghost town out in this area as well.
Speaker 2: Because this was.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is swamp.
Speaker 3: I mean you could see from that little video of
Speaker 3: the thing, the little uh you know know Loansome grave there.
Speaker 3: There there was nothing around it. It's just it's down
Speaker 3: in the middle of nowhere. You know, there's nobody to
Speaker 3: maintain this stuff. And then they come here and they
Speaker 3: put you know, items on the grave. It's just it's
Speaker 3: so bizarre, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Is there any buildings on that property.
Speaker 3: No, there's no houses nearby. There's a house across the street,
Speaker 3: but you know it's further down the road and it's
Speaker 3: a trailer. I don't think people have been living in
Speaker 3: trailers in this area for you know, over one hundred years.
Speaker 2: There's like most of this property, people are dead and
Speaker 2: gone and everything, right.
Speaker 3: But like you saw, that was a brand new like
Speaker 3: headstone that they put in front of that rock that
Speaker 3: was the original headstone. So somebody's taking very good care
Speaker 3: of this place and actually leaving toys and stuff. So
Speaker 3: there's something else going on in this area. And I'm
Speaker 3: glad I heard this because you know, I don't really
Speaker 3: you know, have you ever heard of Shadowlands dot net.
Speaker 3: It's one of the I guess old school repository of
Speaker 3: like haunting stories and stuff. Everything in Wisconsin takes place
Speaker 3: around Madison. That's three hours away. I'm in western Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: There should be some happenings out here, but I can't
Speaker 3: find anything. So it's it's nice to know that there's
Speaker 3: actually stuff going on in the whole metaphysical slash, you know,
Speaker 3: paranormal department. Then, you know, I didn't know about before.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if it was all roadkill, you know, that
Speaker 3: kind of makes sense. But why would they they don't.
Speaker 3: I've passed several deer carcasses on the way out there.
Speaker 3: Nobody was picking these things up, So if it was roadkill,
Speaker 3: you know, why why would they pick up this roadkill
Speaker 3: and not the other stuff?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you nick time me gild there. Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess now because of the whole situation of you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got to hurry up and get back because of
Speaker 2: the podcast. Probably really were the things.
Speaker 7: But if you have time to go back to you,
Speaker 7: I would even look to see if you'd be God,
Speaker 7: I wish like it'd be great if you that was
Speaker 7: closer and I had my drone to see if those
Speaker 7: bodies being laid out in a specific way or anything,
Speaker 7: you know, like when you're there just trying to get
Speaker 7: an idea if you see like you never know, but
Speaker 7: you know, who knows.
Speaker 2: I do find that interesting.
Speaker 7: I just think like maybe if you were there and
Speaker 7: looked at stuff a little bit more, you might actually
Speaker 7: see something else.
Speaker 3: Right, So when I was, when I was approaching it,
Speaker 3: you know, this was one of the few off because
Speaker 3: what happens a lot in Wisconsin is we're a logging state.
Speaker 3: So they've got these logging roads that go all over
Speaker 3: inside of these forests, but they're all blocked off by
Speaker 3: these gates. This was one that didn't have any gate
Speaker 3: on it, and it led all the way down and
Speaker 3: then just dead ended.
Speaker 4: So there was something else going on here.
Speaker 2: You know, people wonder how many dead people might be
Speaker 2: buried in the.
Speaker 4: Something.
Speaker 3: It could have been a ritual, you know, there's there's
Speaker 3: no guarantee that it wasn't, so I think, you know,
Speaker 3: folk magic used to be the dominant religion in the
Speaker 3: United States until eighteen fifties, and I think a lot
Speaker 3: of that tradition survives with a lot of the old timers,
Speaker 3: and this is definitely one of those areas where there
Speaker 3: could be a lot of old timers.
Speaker 2: So I do believe that there is a people out
Speaker 2: in the woods that still live like that. That is
Speaker 2: not a doubt my life.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so that was an interesting experience.
Speaker 3: I also got another video that I made while I
Speaker 3: was out at the site, and I'll just upload that
Speaker 3: directly to YouTube. I'm having trouble format for this one,
Speaker 3: but it's there's a lot of interesting stuff out there.
Speaker 3: And the main purpose of going out there and doing
Speaker 3: this stuff is to encourage you guys to do the same.
Speaker 3: If you guys go out there and have these experiences
Speaker 3: and you're looking for these experiences, you're going to find stuff.
Speaker 3: And that's you know, good for everybody. You know, these
Speaker 3: stories are actually really healthy to have. We're building a
Speaker 3: tribe here, you know, and having the ability to connect
Speaker 3: like that is is very important. And so one of
Speaker 3: the main reasons why I want to get into doing
Speaker 3: more of this stuff is because it actually helps build
Speaker 3: a community of mutual respect and and all the things
Speaker 3: we want to see in the world is sharing stories.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's why I like it. But you know,
Speaker 3: always carry protection, have a knife or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 7: Oh, look at the one I I mean that that
Speaker 7: I I wouldn't have really unless like I had a
Speaker 7: weapon on him, wouldn't have been intimidated by him anyway.
Speaker 2: There was there was only one of them. But like
Speaker 2: what happened when I went to that place in Brooklyn
Speaker 2: and filmed that uh that place as side to that cult?
Speaker 2: Fucking dude. Dude came at me like a.
Speaker 7: Scientologist for fox sake, put this phone on, like running
Speaker 7: up to me, like putting his phone, you know. After
Speaker 7: everything was done, I even answer him. I said, I
Speaker 7: hope you went live on Instagram? Bro, I said, are
Speaker 7: we at least famous over this?
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I didn't go long. It's the
Speaker 2: fuck you're doing.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: They are so defensive. That's generally the thing.
Speaker 3: You can always tell a cult by how defensive they get.
Speaker 2: It was just really weird. It's like.
Speaker 7: What yeah, yeah, definitely uh yeah again for my listeners
Speaker 7: to please send some emails in.
Speaker 2: If you can.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think we're
Speaker 3: on a journey here, you know, and we're trying to
Speaker 3: grow and we're trying to connect. So it's good that
Speaker 3: we've got this audience because I see a lot of
Speaker 3: people on here who are like Manson Mansion rollers. One
Speaker 3: of the first guys emails from he's going out and
Speaker 3: visiting these mounds, that he's having dreams about them.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's something that you know is rare
Speaker 4: and beautiful.
Speaker 3: I was thinking today, you know, wood is some of
Speaker 3: the most rare, rarest materials in our universe.
Speaker 4: Would outside Earth, where's the wood?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: So we take these things for granted. We're surrounded by
Speaker 3: life and we take it for granted. But this is
Speaker 3: some of the most precious stuff in the universe. And
Speaker 3: unless we're connected with that, what are we doing? You know,
Speaker 3: there's so much to see and so much to experience
Speaker 3: that I think all this digital stuff makes us really
Speaker 3: immune to seeing the beauty that's around us.
Speaker 2: Oh yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 7: You know you never noticed twin peaks on If you're
Speaker 7: into that focus on what a lot, there's always trucks
Speaker 7: going down the road with logs on it and stuff.
Speaker 2: They're always in the forest.
Speaker 7: It's very interesting if you pay attention, how much would
Speaker 7: you see being traveled and cut and moved something up with?
Speaker 3: Then there's there's a big logging factor out here too.
Speaker 3: I mean all you see, like all l long. All
Speaker 3: I hear up and down these roads is these big
Speaker 3: logging trucks, you.
Speaker 4: Know, working into earlier early hours of the night.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. But yeah, the wood something that gets me.
Speaker 3: So do you know about calories and how to measure calories?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3: They basically take fat and then they soak a piece
Speaker 3: of paper in the fat, and then they light the
Speaker 3: piece of paper on fire, and then they judge based
Speaker 3: off of how long that paper burns.
Speaker 4: With the fat in it. That's how many calories you're consuming.
Speaker 3: Right, But if you think about it, wood is the
Speaker 3: most calorie dense substance you could have because you've got
Speaker 3: these fires that are burning with the logs in it.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of energy there.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 7: Well, even isn't that even an element in the Chinese Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wood, What.
Speaker 3: Is that sort of constantly growing energy that is associated
Speaker 3: with the five Chinese elements? So with the five Chinese elements,
Speaker 3: they're not in opposition to each other. In the Western elements,
Speaker 3: they're kind of in opposition to each other, but with
Speaker 3: the Chinese elements, they're sort of moving and transforming in
Speaker 3: a circle. So It's a different way of picturing it,
Speaker 3: but I think it still works, you know, because these
Speaker 3: transformations are very important as well.
Speaker 7: Well you know what somebody put in uh mercy choke
Speaker 7: actually put a comment in here that I did see today,
Speaker 7: and I do want to kind of look into it,
Speaker 7: and I was kind of hoping maybe, I don't know,
Speaker 7: maybe eventually we could even talk about it. But I
Speaker 7: did see that the White House they dropped something and
Speaker 7: like somebody was like, Yo, what's up with this line
Speaker 7: right here? And it says that the administration they admitting
Speaker 7: on the White House dot go that they have tech
Speaker 7: that allows them to manipulate time and space.
Speaker 2: You're like, what the hell? No, shit really right?
Speaker 4: And have you looked ato MH three seventy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched those. I hate I'm
Speaker 2: going to admit it.
Speaker 7: I did watch the one with they came to One's
Speaker 7: had that guy on Ashton Forbes I think his name was,
Speaker 7: That is some weird shit.
Speaker 3: Ashon Forbes jumped right on that and said, I know
Speaker 3: the tech they're talking about. It's the MH three seventy
Speaker 3: And nobody's debunked his video.
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody's.
Speaker 3: Even tried like all the people who have come up
Speaker 3: and and and you know, take a swing, have had
Speaker 3: no purchase, Like, they don't have any way of debucking
Speaker 3: this video because it's all so smooth and perfect and
Speaker 3: looks like a real video.
Speaker 2: So to him, I actually wanted to try to get
Speaker 2: him on, but I was like, if he said yes,
Speaker 2: people will be like, oh, you're Cia.
Speaker 7: There's some stupid shit like that, because he's popular, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, And first of all, he's probably
Speaker 7: not going to say yes or even read a DM
Speaker 7: from me anyway.
Speaker 2: But I did think about actually contacting you.
Speaker 4: I think I.
Speaker 3: Think we're on the verge of brand new technology, and
Speaker 3: I think they've had enough time to get it es
Speaker 3: centralized as they possibly can. But what I want people
Speaker 3: to do is, if this stuff comes out, what I
Speaker 3: want you to try and do is reverse engineer it
Speaker 3: and find new applications. Because even even this guy what's
Speaker 3: his name again, Ashton Forbes, Yeah, he's saying he's saying
Speaker 3: that they're pulling the energy out of the ether to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 4: The only way.
Speaker 3: To have a teleportation device is to have a free
Speaker 3: energy device that.
Speaker 7: Sounds like Leon's, like Oregon box would do that or
Speaker 7: like cloud busting does that in a sense, doesn't it?
Speaker 3: This is an interesting, uh little debunking. I'm gonna look
Speaker 3: that up. But from what I've seen, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: a full debunking. So it's it's good to find that stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 7: I did find weird with that, And now I'm not
Speaker 7: saying that. I think it's to prove that it's fake.
Speaker 7: But YO, even like to shill himself, Alessandro didn't even
Speaker 7: want to like touch that shit because like he wasn't
Speaker 7: like sure about it. And it's like, dude, like you
Speaker 7: promote some real dumb fucking shit he does, oh, and
Speaker 7: it's just like and again I'm not sticking up with
Speaker 7: this guy because I don't know, but it's just like,
Speaker 7: you know, do you not want to promote it because
Speaker 7: this guy's saying something that you're not allowed to say.
Speaker 7: Like I don't know, you know, because I don't trust
Speaker 7: that guy. Alessandro, as far as I can throw as
Speaker 7: fat as no, I get it.
Speaker 4: He's he's as deep as the deep state goes.
Speaker 3: You know, he's he's very well connected in that regards,
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't be saying anything that's not cleared, So
Speaker 3: uh yeah.
Speaker 7: Because he even says he contacted him and tried showing
Speaker 7: them all this stuff, and he says, Yo, all those
Speaker 7: dudes didn't want to have anything to do with it.
Speaker 2: He's like, what, like, this is what you do.
Speaker 3: Right, right, And it's a minefield. All this UFO stuff
Speaker 3: is a minefield. And I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: are onto it.
Speaker 4: You know, what do you.
Speaker 2: Think about with that plane?
Speaker 7: Because there was even like stories about certain things on it,
Speaker 7: certain people on it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, right, I honestly don't know. If it
Speaker 3: was a live test, it could be just as easily
Speaker 3: as it could be a shootdown, you know, and all
Speaker 3: the pieces they found that was not really that conclusive either.
Speaker 7: Well, So one thing that I like, when you start
Speaker 7: like thinking about this stuff, I think the one thing
Speaker 7: that probably gets me tripped up on like believing that
Speaker 7: that's even possible and not saying that it isn't. It's
Speaker 7: just like, what's the deal with the people. Are the
Speaker 7: people on the plane all in on this or are
Speaker 7: they just innocent bystanders of a test?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, what's going on with that?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I think there is a big attraction to sheep dipping people,
Speaker 3: you know, because let's face it, things aren't that great
Speaker 3: right now, and if you have the opportunity to have
Speaker 3: a whole new life and wipe out all of your
Speaker 3: debt and everything else, you might want to participate in
Speaker 3: one of these actions.
Speaker 4: I mean, there have been a lot of these. I
Speaker 4: think it's the next stage in what do you call it?
Speaker 3: The actors that do protests, and then they've got the
Speaker 3: crisis actors. If you're going to make a whole sort
Speaker 3: of list of all the contrived people, I think it
Speaker 3: would start with the paid protesters, and then you graduate
Speaker 3: up to a crisis actor who shows up at these
Speaker 3: major events and then fakes their story, and then above
Speaker 3: that would be a sheep dip, you know, to where
Speaker 3: they've completely lost their identity, they're a fake victim, and
Speaker 3: then they move on to do other things and maybe
Speaker 3: get paid a lot of money to do that. So
Speaker 3: I think there is a hierarchy when it comes to
Speaker 3: this fake out bullshit. And you know, why wouldn't there
Speaker 3: be a hierarchy that it's all top down, it's not
Speaker 3: coming from the bottom up.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, in.
Speaker 3: Terms of MH three seventy I don't think we've heard
Speaker 3: the last of it. And whatever Trump is saying about
Speaker 3: this time space stuff. Again, I think they really deftly
Speaker 3: maneuvered with the whole QAnon stuff. You know, they use
Speaker 3: that to a t, and it seems like they were
Speaker 3: able to change that storyline with the focus on Trump,
Speaker 3: and you know, he would keep throwing up the Q
Speaker 3: or the seventeen and all these rallies and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was playing that dude. You know, I honestly
Speaker 2: think all that shit was AI too Q and all that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, something's up with that. I think peed
Speaker 2: of T was behind that.
Speaker 3: And two extent possible, well, I think there's a certain
Speaker 3: aspect of the live action arg right, and so they
Speaker 3: throw out all this information and then they they see
Speaker 3: which one gets traction, which one gets the most views,
Speaker 3: and then they sort of stick with that storyline, you know,
Speaker 3: and then the people who are participating it are throwing
Speaker 3: up the flags at these different rallies, and then people
Speaker 3: are like.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's happening, it's happening. All this stuff is going on.
Speaker 3: And really they're just they're monitoring how people are reacting
Speaker 3: and using that information to further the storyline.
Speaker 7: You know, yo, have you noticed the this is an
Speaker 7: account called b I think on Twitter? You gotta I'll
Speaker 7: send it to you after the fact. I swear to god,
Speaker 7: it's fucking Ai. The picture is not even real. You
Speaker 7: can tell it's Ai. The way the thing talks is AI,
Speaker 7: and it is spinning out some really actually interesting, deep
Speaker 7: fucking shit and it's pretty on point, man, But I'm
Speaker 7: almost positive it is AI. And people are like talking
Speaker 7: to it. And there's other accounts that when you look
Speaker 7: at them, you're like, that looks like that could be AI.
Speaker 7: And it's like, yo, is this all one visual mind fuck?
Speaker 7: Like it's really really weird.
Speaker 2: It was a dude, you know, I'm like dragon on
Speaker 2: the show. Sorry.
Speaker 7: There was a dude that I watched that had something
Speaker 7: about like the dead Internet whatever, and he was saying
Speaker 7: that you can even look online and it even emits
Speaker 7: more than fifty percent now is fucking bonds. And he
Speaker 7: was watching like trump tarts have fucking like arguments online
Speaker 7: and he sort of like looking at their accounts and
Speaker 7: like some of them have like the names or whatever,
Speaker 7: and like looking them up and like there'll be like
Speaker 7: a few little things that shows that this person exists,
Speaker 7: and he was like looking at someone's picture and he
Speaker 7: zoomed in on it. There was now one fucking name
Speaker 7: on any of the books behind him, and all the
Speaker 7: photos in the frames behind them. Everybody's face was twisted
Speaker 7: and people had extra fingers. It's fucking AI. You literally
Speaker 7: have some of these accounts that are spazing like a
Speaker 7: fucking rabbit animal for Trump is actually a fucking computer. Oh,
Speaker 7: it is fucking insane.
Speaker 3: I think what you have is the conflagration of the
Speaker 3: Boomer mentality, which is, you know, the first generation raised
Speaker 3: solely on television with the implementation of AI, and how
Speaker 3: how could you really tell the difference between a person
Speaker 3: who believes everything they see on TV at a program
Speaker 3: that you've put into action that believes everything you tell it,
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, well, at one point I was just like, yo,
Speaker 7: that is crazy. But then I was like, you know what,
Speaker 7: I really.
Speaker 2: Hope some of the counts that I've come across were
Speaker 2: like that, because it makes me feel better that maybe
Speaker 2: not every human is actually that crazy for Trump, because like,
Speaker 2: I've seen something like just crazy shit on the INCIDENTT.
Speaker 3: I like that, right, and I think, what's happening is
Speaker 3: is a type of cybernetic feedback. Right, So cybernetics is
Speaker 3: what we're doing right now. Right, So when you're interacting
Speaker 3: with the machine and then the machine interacts back after
Speaker 3: interacting with it, that's called cybernetic learning. And so what
Speaker 3: they'll do is they'll throw out these associations. You follow
Speaker 3: the associations, and then you get feedback. That's cybernetics. And
Speaker 3: so when you look at the Macy conferences back at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the Silicon Valley era, you'll find that
Speaker 3: that's what they were focused on, is how do we
Speaker 3: get cybernetics into everybody's home. Now we have cybernetics in
Speaker 3: everybody's home, and now they're doing the programming. They figured
Speaker 3: this stuff out in the nineteen forties.
Speaker 2: Wasn't cybernetics like a workout gym at one point? That's
Speaker 2: happened to that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like one of those rubber band workout
Speaker 7: gyms when I was younger.
Speaker 2: I think it was called cybernetics.
Speaker 4: That makes sense, But it's basically the same idea.
Speaker 3: You interact with the machine and then the machine adapts
Speaker 3: to you, your answers and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that account I was talking about.
Speaker 7: Dude, Yeah, if you saw it, I kind of send
Speaker 7: it to you, you'll be like, oo, that's fucking AI.
Speaker 7: It's like even like a lot of times, like if
Speaker 7: you I've want, Like today it was talking about something
Speaker 7: about gravity. I didn't even read everything it said. It
Speaker 7: just say gravity isn't what we think and I said, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's a downward spiral, and it actually replied exactly and
Speaker 7: then said all this shit. And then I started noticing
Speaker 7: on other people he's saying exactly. I'm like, this is
Speaker 7: fucking AI. And people think they're having a conversation with
Speaker 7: a real account with a picture that's AI, Like, Yo,
Speaker 7: this is fucking fake.
Speaker 2: And I asked it, are you AI? Nothing? I asked it,
Speaker 2: will you come on my podcast? Nothing?
Speaker 7: But if you if you comment on what it's talking about,
Speaker 7: it will answer you as if you're having a conversation
Speaker 7: with chat GPT exactly, But those specifics it's it can't
Speaker 7: answer that. It's not gonna oh sure, I'll come on
Speaker 7: your podcast. It can It's a fucking computer.
Speaker 3: I Once you pro AIS reacting with AIS, and then
Speaker 3: the people reacted with the AIS, that's when you start
Speaker 3: to get the mass movement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it is freaky.
Speaker 3: There was a great storyline I read about these professional wrestlers, right,
Speaker 3: and these professional wrestlers were trying to, you know, get
Speaker 3: the crowd to react the way they wanted to. So
Speaker 3: what they would do is they would start to pump
Speaker 3: in sounds of cheering crowds when they wanted the crowd
Speaker 3: to cheer. The crowd then responded and started cheering. Yes,
Speaker 3: because they heard the cheers.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is pay five, like five, motherfuck?
Speaker 2: Is it? Start the wave and you get that shit
Speaker 2: going right.
Speaker 7: No, nowadays they just put up a sign and it
Speaker 7: says applause, you fucking slaves, and you.
Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 4: Right. That's a little bit more obvious.
Speaker 3: What you want them to do is think that it
Speaker 3: was their idea, and once you get that that crowd
Speaker 3: energy going on, they think it was their idea, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't. And then we're back at the beginning where
Speaker 3: everybody just responds to however the actors are doing it,
Speaker 3: and you're back at the original church. I keep saving
Speaker 3: over again, theater is the original church because you're reacting
Speaker 3: to what you're seeing and you have that sort of
Speaker 3: same relationship.
Speaker 2: That's why, that's why King James like Shakespeare so much.
Speaker 3: Women bingo, bingo, nailing it all right, Well, this is
Speaker 3: a great episode. Guys, Get out there, go find out
Speaker 3: what's happening. Do it for yourself. Don't wait for somebody
Speaker 3: to tell you to do it. Do it for yourself.
Speaker 3: You know what you want to get into, right, it's fun.
Speaker 2: You get out of the house. You'll be by yourself. Right.
Speaker 4: We all got to be okay with being by ourselves,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: This is a great episode. Thank you guys for joining on,
Speaker 3: joining me on the journey. Thank you Nick, and we'll
Speaker 3: see you again next time.