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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's going to happen? I'll take what.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome everybody to another Uncle Headless is Magical Mailbag Part two.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got my buddy Nick here and we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to go over some of the stuff that I found out.

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<v Speaker 4>On Columbia Road and go to your emails.

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<v Speaker 3>So, uh, let me see if this works real quick,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we'll go to the video.

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<v Speaker 2>Check this out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one of my drops.

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<v Speaker 2>All right there, m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>I found the baby Grave. It's called the Lonesome Grave.

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<v Speaker 1>This was mentioned in the.

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<v Speaker 5>Story on the Sasquatch Chronicles. They said they came out here.

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<v Speaker 2>And heard.

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<v Speaker 1>The cries of a.

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<v Speaker 5>Baby March first, eighteen ninety four to August twenty sixth,

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 6>Watt Old Frank and the grains.

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<v Speaker 1>This who's the baby grave?

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<v Speaker 6>Drest well, Blanche, you are loved and you are missed.

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<v Speaker 6>I would have had a great life.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that was a podcast I recently heard called

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<v Speaker 3>Sasquatch Chronicles, and this guy was relating a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>different stories he had heard, and then he went out

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<v Speaker 3>to investigate at this Columbia Road and one of the

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<v Speaker 3>places was this Columbia mansion.

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<v Speaker 4>And then another one was this baby grave.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't find the mansion or what's left of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did find this really creepy kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>deer graveyard.

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<v Speaker 4>There was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe sixteen carcasses. I was counting the spines because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't get duplicate spines, and they had a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of these deer just bones and just it was all

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<v Speaker 3>spread out all over the place too. It was it

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<v Speaker 3>was just really strange at the end of this little

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<v Speaker 3>cul de sac area.

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<v Speaker 2>That's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I was trying to I was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get the signal out there, but obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>out in the middle of Wisconsin, it's not easy to

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<v Speaker 3>get signal, and you know, us cellular's no good.

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<v Speaker 4>So whatever, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing it again, making it happen. You gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>back and get more pictures and videos of those carcasses.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I gotta find that mansion too.

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<v Speaker 7>You could probably do some like with some crazy filters

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<v Speaker 7>and like weird sound effects and noises. You could probably

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<v Speaker 7>make some like images and video, you know, make a

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<v Speaker 7>black and white.

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<v Speaker 2>And just like cream.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's so strange, there's so many different swampy

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<v Speaker 3>areas in Wisconsin that have just you know, magnificent like

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<v Speaker 3>mushrooms and animals and plants that you just would never expect,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just, you know, such a diverse environment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really cool. I mean, I don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>The people necessarily out here so much, but let me

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<v Speaker 3>tell you, the environment out here is just incredible. And

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<v Speaker 3>that Baby Blanche area they said on this podcast it

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<v Speaker 3>was I forget the episode number, but it was called

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<v Speaker 3>Glitch in the Matrix, and they said that they found

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<v Speaker 3>this mansion, they came.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to it and it was completely in ruins.

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<v Speaker 3>But before they actually talked to the occupant of this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and when they came back, it was completely gone. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a complete glitch in time out there.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought, that's incredible. It's right down the street

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<v Speaker 3>from me. I got to go check it out. And

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<v Speaker 3>once they got done at that mansion area, they said

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<v Speaker 3>they stopped over at this baby grave and it was

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<v Speaker 3>exactly like he described, with that big metal crossout front

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<v Speaker 3>that said Lonesome Grave.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know this was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby back in the eighteen nineties, did you see all

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<v Speaker 3>those toys that people were still leaving for it, So

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's sort of like an offering, like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be sad baby Blanche, because they hear.

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<v Speaker 4>It crying all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm thinking, because he said they stopped at

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<v Speaker 3>this baby grave and then they all heard it was

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<v Speaker 3>like a deafening ear piercing a cry of a baby,

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<v Speaker 3>and they all started crying.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're pacifiering there, one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true. Pacifiers good.

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<v Speaker 3>This might be before the time of pacifiers, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I would they give babies in the eighteen

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<v Speaker 4>nineties zero?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing like deal with it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's one of the things.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, not just Blanche, but her parents and probably

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<v Speaker 3>their children. And you know, their children are dead, so

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<v Speaker 3>why are people still leaving stuff there?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense if it's crying all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it's probably like a real urban legend to them,

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<v Speaker 7>the people around there regardless.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't talk to anybody out there, but I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to get their stories about this kind of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is the mail bag episode, So let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to go with yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh so, he said, So I wanted to share this

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<v Speaker 7>because it would be neat if anyone else had a

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<v Speaker 7>similar experience, and I'll just oh you wanted to be anonymous?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh well sorry, Yeah, it was a bright It was

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<v Speaker 7>a bright, clear morning. It was entirely sober, and got

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<v Speaker 7>up early to walk my dog and exercise. I walked

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<v Speaker 7>down the hill to my house. When I got on

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<v Speaker 7>the street and stopped in a patch of the morning sun,

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<v Speaker 7>and notice my shoe was untied. As I noticed that,

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<v Speaker 7>I got the distinct impression to turn around, like when

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<v Speaker 7>you are out and about and feel someone is looking

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<v Speaker 7>at you or even trying to get your attention in

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<v Speaker 7>some way. It didn't turn around because it was early

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<v Speaker 7>in the morning, and figured there was no one there.

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<v Speaker 7>As it went to time my shoe, a softball sized object,

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<v Speaker 7>maybe a little bit bigger, flew over my head. I

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<v Speaker 7>watched a fly for like fifteen feet or so before

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<v Speaker 7>it dipped below the hill and continued beyond the street,

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<v Speaker 7>in which was a valley of thick pine trees. In

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<v Speaker 7>the split second that I debated on running after it,

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<v Speaker 7>I realized that it was gone already and would have

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<v Speaker 7>to been useless to attempt to see it again. It

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<v Speaker 7>was silent and brown or gray, almost like the pine

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<v Speaker 7>bark in the tree air in the air, almost like

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<v Speaker 7>the pine bark trees in this area. It appeared to

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<v Speaker 7>be a very solid little globe vehicle, no propellers or

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<v Speaker 7>any visible form of propelsion. I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 7>it was, but when it initially happened, I regretted that

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<v Speaker 7>turning around and also thought maybe I did sense it

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<v Speaker 7>in some way. At least as time has passed, I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like maybe I didn't sense it as much as

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<v Speaker 7>it communicated to me turn around. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 7>it was and have not heard much of this type

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<v Speaker 7>of anomaly, but just wanted to share it if others

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<v Speaker 7>might have experienced similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird shit.

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<v Speaker 3>That is interesting. So these orbs are really interesting. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's so much more to these orbs than just

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<v Speaker 3>spirit contact, UFO.

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<v Speaker 4>All the rest of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's both, and you know, all of these

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<v Speaker 3>things can be all in the same thing. So having

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<v Speaker 3>this contact experience, I think is more than one level

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<v Speaker 3>happening here.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think these.

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<v Speaker 3>Orbs really have a lot to do with the toroidal

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<v Speaker 3>shape of energy that happens over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can have.

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<v Speaker 3>These different toroid shapes that can have overlapping segments and

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<v Speaker 3>other different types of specific geometry. But when you get

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<v Speaker 3>close enough to the orbs, you'll notice that there's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>a nucleus to all of these orbs, and so paying

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<v Speaker 3>attention to that sort of gives you an idea to

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the volume of energy or material going

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<v Speaker 3>on there. And I think it's kind of interesting the coloring.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't necessarily hear too much about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something that is orb like that blends into the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually thought the color that he gave us a

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<v Speaker 7>little It was a little different than I expected.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 7>I always have like the idea of like a white

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<v Speaker 7>or blue orb. When he gave that color, it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>that's different.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I've done I've done some graveyard photography and you

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot of orange and red coming up out

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<v Speaker 3>of the graveyards. So there's there's lots of different variations

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<v Speaker 3>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that is wild.

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<v Speaker 3>So this one is from a guy named Double J.

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<v Speaker 3>If I could say his there, I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 3>says this is a tale of one of the new

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<v Speaker 3>beasts I encountered in the wild and occasionally wonderful Big

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<v Speaker 3>Sky Country of Montana. I was deep into the area

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<v Speaker 3>largely uncharted mountain regions outside of Big Sky Montana a

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<v Speaker 3>popular winter destination, but the butt in the summertime, at

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<v Speaker 3>least circa two thousand and one, you always know it's

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<v Speaker 3>JJ when he uses circa I had a chartered a

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<v Speaker 3>solo mission to some nearby mountaintop lakes that had been

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<v Speaker 3>identified on a map as the Golden Trout Lakes. I

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<v Speaker 3>figured I like hiking and I like some trout, so

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<v Speaker 3>I took off for the afternoon for a long adventure

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<v Speaker 3>from base camp at my aunt's home in Bozeman, Montana,

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<v Speaker 3>where I would often visit on extended periods of time

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<v Speaker 3>off duty from Nuclear missile Convoy security details at Great Falls,

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<v Speaker 3>Montana Mailstrom AFB. Keep that in mind, folks, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>living on Montana, you are not say from nuclear war,

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<v Speaker 3>that's where the nukes are.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's it'll be the first place to be going

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<v Speaker 2>for right.

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<v Speaker 3>The heights to the top of the mountain may have

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<v Speaker 3>exceeded the time it took me to drive ninety or

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<v Speaker 3>so minute drive to my parking lot and hike from

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<v Speaker 3>there to the top of the mountain to the Golden

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<v Speaker 3>Trout Lakes, which at this point only existed in two

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<v Speaker 3>D format on my map, with little to no interweb

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<v Speaker 3>data available for the location because it was August two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and one, so I had no clue what I

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<v Speaker 3>would discover. Once I located these Golden Trout lakes upon

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<v Speaker 3>a light the hike and encountering no people or wildlife,

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<v Speaker 3>I finally discovered the Golden Trout Lakes in quotes and

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<v Speaker 3>immediately cast my fishing line in and got to work.

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<v Speaker 3>After about an hour, I caught half a dozen big

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<v Speaker 3>old golden trout and figured that that was a good

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<v Speaker 3>fishing day and I didn't want to be caught up

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods after dark. I do my best not

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<v Speaker 3>too volunteer to become David Politest missing for one one statistic.

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<v Speaker 3>As I'm heading back down the trail, I encounter one

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<v Speaker 3>of the strangest beasts imaginable photo included.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go to that photo. Yeah, there it is.

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<v Speaker 5>There.

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<v Speaker 4>It is horrifying. People. You've got to look out for

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<v Speaker 4>this creature.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the way it walks. It's like so

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<v Speaker 2>authentic it must be. You could see that it doesn't listen,

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<v Speaker 2>looks like an outfit it must be real.

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<v Speaker 4>This is obviously joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone knows that Cookie Monster doesn't reside in Montana, not until.

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<v Speaker 4>Ski season at least.

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Anyhow, I actually ended up encountering a

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<v Speaker 3>lakes I saw. I told the uh scout troop the

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<v Speaker 3>lines as I departed for the trail. I got back

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<v Speaker 3>to my aunt's house and began to prep my golden

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<v Speaker 3>trout for he keeps putting it in quotes like what

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<v Speaker 3>are these golden trout? Like these are quotes?

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<v Speaker 4>What is this?

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. When you get to the end of it, you'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Realize, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>My aunt was also an experienced outdoors folk from Vermont

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<v Speaker 3>to Montana Wilderness says to me, those are not golden trout.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are an endangered species of rainbow trout. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>red band trout. Not sure the endangered status of these

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<v Speaker 3>trout today in Montana, but I feel like the State

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<v Speaker 3>of my Tanna needs to name their lakes more accurately. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the lake's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can also tell you this fun fact and

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<v Speaker 3>also discovered that was some damn delicious endangered trout. Good

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<v Speaker 3>luck in godspeed, JJ Vance. I probably shouldn't say his name.

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<v Speaker 3>He's catching in dangered species.

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<v Speaker 4>On the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Vice President, there's the monster.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's right there, it's cookie monster.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we do about that? So I guess JJ

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<v Speaker 3>is going to jail because this is it's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if if it's rainbow something that round,

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<v Speaker 7>obviously I don't think so. But like, uh, I find

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<v Speaker 7>an interest that when we did cover a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 7>when we covered the Jesters, they had some fishing thing

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<v Speaker 7>it was called the Wett Lines or whatever over in Brazil,

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<v Speaker 7>and they their thing was that's when they were taking

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<v Speaker 7>the girls and bringing the young girls on the boat.

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<v Speaker 7>But the whole reason of the boat is that they're

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<v Speaker 7>supposedly fishing for some sort of rainbow fish, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>and then the thing is when we're getting is that

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<v Speaker 7>they tied a quatsu hotal and like that's a rainbow bird.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, you know, what are we going here

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<v Speaker 2>with this whole rainbow thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the idea of rainbow and fish really

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<v Speaker 3>brings to mind like weather patterns and like water and

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<v Speaker 3>all the rest of this stuff is sort of I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there's so much that you could draw from the symbology

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<v Speaker 3>of these streams and rivers all around you. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not thinking of them symbolically, then how are you

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<v Speaker 3>ever going to sort of make those associations. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in the woods, you need to be looking

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<v Speaker 3>for that kind of stuff. Like one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that I found is that while I was out there,

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<v Speaker 3>there were these two ducks, right, and these were really special,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was a mallard and his I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what you call a female duck, but they didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>like the classical band you know around the neck.

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<v Speaker 4>It was more like a mohawk.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it felt as I was approaching these things

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<v Speaker 3>these two were sort of in there, and I snuck

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<v Speaker 3>up on them, right, And so in addition to all

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<v Speaker 3>of the corpses of these deer, you know, laying all

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<v Speaker 3>around this area, you also have the sacred union of

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<v Speaker 3>these two ducks. And then in my mind, I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this has got to be a pretty magical spot.

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<v Speaker 3>If not only are you having this you know, graveyard,

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<v Speaker 3>but also these two you know ducks sort of reproducing

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<v Speaker 3>and having family out here that weren't aware of my presence.

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<v Speaker 3>There's got to be some kind of an energy that is,

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<v Speaker 3>because normally you can't sneak up on a duck. They're

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<v Speaker 3>right on it as soon as possible. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of gave me a sense that there was

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<v Speaker 3>something else going on there, and I, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of appreciated that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe they didn't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, they flew off immediately, you know, once

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<v Speaker 3>they saw me. It was it was like, get the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>They caught us.

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<v Speaker 3>You always have to wonder, like what other kind of

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<v Speaker 3>encounters have the animals that you've seen in the woods

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<v Speaker 3>had with humans, you know, because that sort of flavors

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<v Speaker 3>how they treat you is the other encounters that they've

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<v Speaker 2>Especially if they if they could base it off their

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<v Speaker 2>first interrection.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I did see another truck parked out there. He

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<v Speaker 3>was probably not hunting. I don't want to assume that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely in the off season, so, you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of deer carcasses that were laid out,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know if the Highway Department likes to

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<v Speaker 3>dump them at a certain location or if these were

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<v Speaker 3>natural deaths, but they had definitely been picked apart by predators.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna ask you about that. What was it you're

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<v Speaker 7>talking about where you just went. I was gonna ask you, like,

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<v Speaker 7>what was up with the like why was there dead

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<v Speaker 7>deer carcasses there?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm getting out.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, that's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's like where they just like where the

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<v Speaker 7>town of the Highway picks up that the ones on

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<v Speaker 7>the fucking street and just fucking dump them there.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think that normally, but this was so far

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<v Speaker 3>off the beaten track that you know, they would have

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<v Speaker 3>to be picking up deer carcasses off of these dirt

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<v Speaker 3>roads and they don't normally do that.

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<v Speaker 4>They just leave the deer on the dirt roads.

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<v Speaker 3>The only time they ever pick up the deer is

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<v Speaker 3>when they're you know, blocking traffic and stuff. So to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it seemed like maybe it was a hunting thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>if it was a hunting thing and they're stripping the

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<v Speaker 3>deer of the meet and stuff, why here there were

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<v Speaker 3>no trees to hang them on, you know, so this

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<v Speaker 3>is not a good place to like gut the deer

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<v Speaker 3>or anything. And if they're just taking their kills and

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<v Speaker 3>then dumping them out here, there's lots of other places

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<v Speaker 3>they could do that. They actually have deer collection sites

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<v Speaker 3>out here in Wisconsin. It's you know, deer hunting is

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<v Speaker 3>so popular out here that you could just throw them

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<v Speaker 3>in town. One of the interesting things about that story too,

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<v Speaker 3>from the Sasquatch Chronicles was that the lady who was

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<v Speaker 3>a ghost that they were talking to, said that there

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<v Speaker 3>was a town of Columbia, but there was absolutely no Columbia.

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<v Speaker 4>Town anywhere near this place.

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<v Speaker 3>This is way out on the sticks, and so she says,

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<v Speaker 3>if you follow this road, you'll hit the town of Columbia.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't see any town, so there might be

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<v Speaker 3>a ghost town out in this area as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this was.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is swamp.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you could see from that little video of

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<v Speaker 3>the thing, the little uh you know know Loansome grave there.

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<v Speaker 3>There there was nothing around it. It's just it's down

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of nowhere. You know, there's nobody to

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<v Speaker 3>maintain this stuff. And then they come here and they

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<v Speaker 3>put you know, items on the grave. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>so bizarre, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Is there any buildings on that property.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's no houses nearby. There's a house across the street,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know it's further down the road and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a trailer. I don't think people have been living in

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<v Speaker 3>trailers in this area for you know, over one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like most of this property, people are dead and

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<v Speaker 2>gone and everything, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you saw, that was a brand new like

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<v Speaker 3>headstone that they put in front of that rock that

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<v Speaker 3>was the original headstone. So somebody's taking very good care

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<v Speaker 3>of this place and actually leaving toys and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's something else going on in this area. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad I heard this because you know, I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>you know, have you ever heard of Shadowlands dot net.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the I guess old school repository of

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<v Speaker 3>like haunting stories and stuff. Everything in Wisconsin takes place

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<v Speaker 3>around Madison. That's three hours away. I'm in western Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 3>There should be some happenings out here, but I can't

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<v Speaker 3>find anything. So it's it's nice to know that there's

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<v Speaker 3>actually stuff going on in the whole metaphysical slash, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>paranormal department. Then, you know, I didn't know about before.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, if it was all roadkill, you know, that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of makes sense. But why would they they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I've passed several deer carcasses on the way out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody was picking these things up, So if it was roadkill,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, why why would they pick up this roadkill

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<v Speaker 3>and not the other stuff?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you nick time me gild there. Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess now because of the whole situation of you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast. Probably really were the things.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you have time to go back to you,

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<v Speaker 7>I would even look to see if you'd be God,

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<v Speaker 7>I wish like it'd be great if you that was

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<v Speaker 7>closer and I had my drone to see if those

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<v Speaker 7>bodies being laid out in a specific way or anything,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, like when you're there just trying to get

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<v Speaker 7>an idea if you see like you never know, but

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<v Speaker 7>you know, who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I do find that interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>I just think like maybe if you were there and

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<v Speaker 7>looked at stuff a little bit more, you might actually

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<v Speaker 7>see something else.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So when I was, when I was approaching it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this was one of the few off because

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<v Speaker 3>what happens a lot in Wisconsin is we're a logging state.

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<v Speaker 3>So they've got these logging roads that go all over

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<v Speaker 3>inside of these forests, but they're all blocked off by

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<v Speaker 3>these gates. This was one that didn't have any gate

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<v Speaker 3>on it, and it led all the way down and

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<v Speaker 3>then just dead ended.

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<v Speaker 4>So there was something else going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people wonder how many dead people might be

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<v Speaker 2>buried in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Something.

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<v Speaker 3>It could have been a ritual, you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>no guarantee that it wasn't, so I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>folk magic used to be the dominant religion in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States until eighteen fifties, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of that tradition survives with a lot of the old timers,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is definitely one of those areas where there

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<v Speaker 3>could be a lot of old timers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do believe that there is a people out

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods that still live like that. That is

433
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<v Speaker 2>not a doubt my life.

434
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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so that was an interesting experience.

435
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I also got another video that I made while I

436
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:32.920
<v Speaker 3>was out at the site, and I'll just upload that

437
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:36.200
<v Speaker 3>directly to YouTube. I'm having trouble format for this one,

438
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:39.640
<v Speaker 3>but it's there's a lot of interesting stuff out there.

439
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.039
<v Speaker 3>And the main purpose of going out there and doing

440
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<v Speaker 3>this stuff is to encourage you guys to do the same.

441
00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.440
<v Speaker 3>If you guys go out there and have these experiences

442
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 3>and you're looking for these experiences, you're going to find stuff.

443
00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.799
<v Speaker 3>And that's you know, good for everybody. You know, these

444
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.640
<v Speaker 3>stories are actually really healthy to have. We're building a

445
00:23:58.680 --> 00:24:02.359
<v Speaker 3>tribe here, you know, and having the ability to connect

446
00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:06.400
<v Speaker 3>like that is is very important. And so one of

447
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 3>the main reasons why I want to get into doing

448
00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:12.400
<v Speaker 3>more of this stuff is because it actually helps build

449
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:16.279
<v Speaker 3>a community of mutual respect and and all the things

450
00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:19.160
<v Speaker 3>we want to see in the world is sharing stories.

451
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:25.720
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's why I like it. But you know,

452
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:28.279
<v Speaker 3>always carry protection, have a knife or something.

453
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you never know.

454
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<v Speaker 7>Oh, look at the one I I mean that that

455
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<v Speaker 7>I I wouldn't have really unless like I had a

456
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<v Speaker 7>weapon on him, wouldn't have been intimidated by him anyway.

457
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:40.839
<v Speaker 2>There was there was only one of them. But like

458
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<v Speaker 2>what happened when I went to that place in Brooklyn

459
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:45.279
<v Speaker 2>and filmed that uh that place as side to that cult?

460
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Fucking dude. Dude came at me like a.

461
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<v Speaker 7>Scientologist for fox sake, put this phone on, like running

462
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 7>up to me, like putting his phone, you know. After

463
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 7>everything was done, I even answer him. I said, I

464
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<v Speaker 7>hope you went live on Instagram? Bro, I said, are

465
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<v Speaker 7>we at least famous over this?

466
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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I didn't go long. It's the

467
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<v Speaker 2>fuck you're doing.

468
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 6>Man.

469
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 4>They are so defensive. That's generally the thing.

470
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 3>You can always tell a cult by how defensive they get.

471
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.279
<v Speaker 2>It was just really weird. It's like.

472
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<v Speaker 7>What yeah, yeah, definitely uh yeah again for my listeners

473
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 7>to please send some emails in.

474
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<v Speaker 2>If you can.

475
00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think we're

476
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 3>on a journey here, you know, and we're trying to

477
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:36.160
<v Speaker 3>grow and we're trying to connect. So it's good that

478
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 3>we've got this audience because I see a lot of

479
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 3>people on here who are like Manson Mansion rollers. One

480
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:46.000
<v Speaker 3>of the first guys emails from he's going out and

481
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 3>visiting these mounds, that he's having dreams about them.

482
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's that's something that you know is rare

483
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<v Speaker 4>and beautiful.

484
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking today, you know, wood is some of

485
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<v Speaker 3>the most rare, rarest materials in our universe.

486
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Would outside Earth, where's the wood?

487
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 2>You know?

488
00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 3>So we take these things for granted. We're surrounded by

489
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 3>life and we take it for granted. But this is

490
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.759
<v Speaker 3>some of the most precious stuff in the universe. And

491
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 3>unless we're connected with that, what are we doing? You know,

492
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:21.759
<v Speaker 3>there's so much to see and so much to experience

493
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 3>that I think all this digital stuff makes us really

494
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>immune to seeing the beauty that's around us.

495
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yep, yep, yep.

496
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<v Speaker 7>You know you never noticed twin peaks on If you're

497
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 7>into that focus on what a lot, there's always trucks

498
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.039
<v Speaker 7>going down the road with logs on it and stuff.

499
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>They're always in the forest.

500
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<v Speaker 7>It's very interesting if you pay attention, how much would

501
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.319
<v Speaker 7>you see being traveled and cut and moved something up with?

502
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Then there's there's a big logging factor out here too.

503
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean all you see, like all l long. All

504
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I hear up and down these roads is these big

505
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:58.119
<v Speaker 3>logging trucks, you.

506
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<v Speaker 4>Know, working into earlier early hours of the night.

507
00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. But yeah, the wood something that gets me.

508
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 3>So do you know about calories and how to measure calories?

509
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit.

510
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 3>They basically take fat and then they soak a piece

511
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 3>of paper in the fat, and then they light the

512
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 3>piece of paper on fire, and then they judge based

513
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 3>off of how long that paper burns.

514
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 4>With the fat in it. That's how many calories you're consuming.

515
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, But if you think about it, wood is the

516
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.720
<v Speaker 3>most calorie dense substance you could have because you've got

517
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 3>these fires that are burning with the logs in it.

518
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.799
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a lot of energy there.

519
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, even isn't that even an element in the Chinese Yeah?

521
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wood, What.

522
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Is that sort of constantly growing energy that is associated

523
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:58.880
<v Speaker 3>with the five Chinese elements? So with the five Chinese elements,

524
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 3>they're not in opposition to each other. In the Western elements,

525
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 3>they're kind of in opposition to each other, but with

526
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 3>the Chinese elements, they're sort of moving and transforming in

527
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.359
<v Speaker 3>a circle. So It's a different way of picturing it,

528
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.400
<v Speaker 3>but I think it still works, you know, because these

529
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>transformations are very important as well.

530
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 7>Well you know what somebody put in uh mercy choke

531
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 7>actually put a comment in here that I did see today,

532
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 7>and I do want to kind of look into it,

533
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 7>and I was kind of hoping maybe, I don't know,

534
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 7>maybe eventually we could even talk about it. But I

535
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.720
<v Speaker 7>did see that the White House they dropped something and

536
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.000
<v Speaker 7>like somebody was like, Yo, what's up with this line

537
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.319
<v Speaker 7>right here? And it says that the administration they admitting

538
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 7>on the White House dot go that they have tech

539
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 7>that allows them to manipulate time and space.

540
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 2>You're like, what the hell? No, shit really right?

541
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 4>And have you looked ato MH three seventy.

542
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched those. I hate I'm

543
00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 2>going to admit it.

544
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 7>I did watch the one with they came to One's

545
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.440
<v Speaker 7>had that guy on Ashton Forbes I think his name was,

546
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.480
<v Speaker 7>That is some weird shit.

547
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Ashon Forbes jumped right on that and said, I know

548
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>the tech they're talking about. It's the MH three seventy

549
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.599
<v Speaker 3>And nobody's debunked his video.

550
00:29:16.279 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, nobody's.

551
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Even tried like all the people who have come up

552
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.039
<v Speaker 3>and and and you know, take a swing, have had

553
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.799
<v Speaker 3>no purchase, Like, they don't have any way of debucking

554
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 3>this video because it's all so smooth and perfect and

555
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 3>looks like a real video.

556
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>So to him, I actually wanted to try to get

557
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>him on, but I was like, if he said yes,

558
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 2>people will be like, oh, you're Cia.

559
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 7>There's some stupid shit like that, because he's popular, you

560
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm saying, And first of all, he's probably

561
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 7>not going to say yes or even read a DM

562
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 7>from me anyway.

563
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>But I did think about actually contacting you.

564
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 4>I think I.

565
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Think we're on the verge of brand new technology, and

566
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>I think they've had enough time to get it es

567
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 3>centralized as they possibly can. But what I want people

568
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 3>to do is, if this stuff comes out, what I

569
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 3>want you to try and do is reverse engineer it

570
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 3>and find new applications. Because even even this guy what's

571
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 3>his name again, Ashton Forbes, Yeah, he's saying he's saying

572
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 3>that they're pulling the energy out of the ether to

573
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 3>do this.

574
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 4>The only way.

575
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 3>To have a teleportation device is to have a free

576
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>energy device that.

577
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 7>Sounds like Leon's, like Oregon box would do that or

578
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 7>like cloud busting does that in a sense, doesn't it?

579
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 3>This is an interesting, uh little debunking. I'm gonna look

580
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 3>that up. But from what I've seen, I haven't seen

581
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 3>a full debunking. So it's it's good to find that stuff.

582
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>You know what.

583
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 7>I did find weird with that, And now I'm not

584
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:58.000
<v Speaker 7>saying that. I think it's to prove that it's fake.

585
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 7>But YO, even like to shill himself, Alessandro didn't even

586
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:09.599
<v Speaker 7>want to like touch that shit because like he wasn't

587
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 7>like sure about it. And it's like, dude, like you

588
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 7>promote some real dumb fucking shit he does, oh, and

589
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.400
<v Speaker 7>it's just like and again I'm not sticking up with

590
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 7>this guy because I don't know, but it's just like,

591
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 7>you know, do you not want to promote it because

592
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 7>this guy's saying something that you're not allowed to say.

593
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 7>Like I don't know, you know, because I don't trust

594
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 7>that guy. Alessandro, as far as I can throw as

595
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 7>fat as no, I get it.

596
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 4>He's he's as deep as the deep state goes.

597
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's he's very well connected in that regards,

598
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 3>and he wouldn't be saying anything that's not cleared, So

599
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>uh yeah.

600
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:48.559
<v Speaker 7>Because he even says he contacted him and tried showing

601
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 7>them all this stuff, and he says, Yo, all those

602
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 7>dudes didn't want to have anything to do with it.

603
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what, like, this is what you do.

604
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, right, And it's a minefield. All this UFO stuff

605
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>is a minefield. And I think a lot of people

606
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 3>are onto it.

607
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 4>You know, what do you.

608
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Think about with that plane?

609
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 7>Because there was even like stories about certain things on it,

610
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 7>certain people on it.

611
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, right, I honestly don't know. If it

612
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 3>was a live test, it could be just as easily

613
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 3>as it could be a shootdown, you know, and all

614
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>the pieces they found that was not really that conclusive either.

615
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 7>Well, So one thing that I like, when you start

616
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 7>like thinking about this stuff, I think the one thing

617
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 7>that probably gets me tripped up on like believing that

618
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 7>that's even possible and not saying that it isn't. It's

619
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 7>just like, what's the deal with the people. Are the

620
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 7>people on the plane all in on this or are

621
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 7>they just innocent bystanders of a test?

622
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? Like, what's going on with that?

623
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 4>Well?

624
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.359
<v Speaker 3>I think there is a big attraction to sheep dipping people,

625
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, because let's face it, things aren't that great

626
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 3>right now, and if you have the opportunity to have

627
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 3>a whole new life and wipe out all of your

628
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 3>debt and everything else, you might want to participate in

629
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 3>one of these actions.

630
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there have been a lot of these. I

631
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 4>think it's the next stage in what do you call it?

632
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>The actors that do protests, and then they've got the

633
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 3>crisis actors. If you're going to make a whole sort

634
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 3>of list of all the contrived people, I think it

635
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:31.160
<v Speaker 3>would start with the paid protesters, and then you graduate

636
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 3>up to a crisis actor who shows up at these

637
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 3>major events and then fakes their story, and then above

638
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 3>that would be a sheep dip, you know, to where

639
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 3>they've completely lost their identity, they're a fake victim, and

640
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 3>then they move on to do other things and maybe

641
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 3>get paid a lot of money to do that. So

642
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:50.720
<v Speaker 3>I think there is a hierarchy when it comes to

643
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 3>this fake out bullshit. And you know, why wouldn't there

644
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 3>be a hierarchy that it's all top down, it's not

645
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 3>coming from the bottom up.

646
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean, in.

647
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 3>Terms of MH three seventy I don't think we've heard

648
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 3>the last of it. And whatever Trump is saying about

649
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 3>this time space stuff. Again, I think they really deftly

650
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 3>maneuvered with the whole QAnon stuff. You know, they use

651
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 3>that to a t, and it seems like they were

652
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 3>able to change that storyline with the focus on Trump,

653
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 3>and you know, he would keep throwing up the Q

654
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:28.719
<v Speaker 3>or the seventeen and all these rallies and stuff.

655
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was playing that dude. You know, I honestly

656
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 2>think all that shit was AI too Q and all that.

657
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, something's up with that. I think peed

658
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>of T was behind that.

659
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 3>And two extent possible, well, I think there's a certain

660
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 3>aspect of the live action arg right, and so they

661
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.480
<v Speaker 3>throw out all this information and then they they see

662
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 3>which one gets traction, which one gets the most views,

663
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 3>and then they sort of stick with that storyline, you know,

664
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 3>and then the people who are participating it are throwing

665
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 3>up the flags at these different rallies, and then people

666
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:00.480
<v Speaker 3>are like.

667
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's happening, it's happening. All this stuff is going on.

668
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>And really they're just they're monitoring how people are reacting

669
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 3>and using that information to further the storyline.

670
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<v Speaker 7>You know, yo, have you noticed the this is an

671
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 7>account called b I think on Twitter? You gotta I'll

672
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 7>send it to you after the fact. I swear to god,

673
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.719
<v Speaker 7>it's fucking Ai. The picture is not even real. You

674
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 7>can tell it's Ai. The way the thing talks is AI,

675
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 7>and it is spinning out some really actually interesting, deep

676
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 7>fucking shit and it's pretty on point, man, But I'm

677
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 7>almost positive it is AI. And people are like talking

678
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 7>to it. And there's other accounts that when you look

679
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 7>at them, you're like, that looks like that could be AI.

680
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:49.559
<v Speaker 7>And it's like, yo, is this all one visual mind fuck?

681
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 7>Like it's really really weird.

682
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It was a dude, you know, I'm like dragon on

683
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the show. Sorry.

684
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 7>There was a dude that I watched that had something

685
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 7>about like the dead Internet whatever, and he was saying

686
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:04.199
<v Speaker 7>that you can even look online and it even emits

687
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 7>more than fifty percent now is fucking bonds. And he

688
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:11.840
<v Speaker 7>was watching like trump tarts have fucking like arguments online

689
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.320
<v Speaker 7>and he sort of like looking at their accounts and

690
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 7>like some of them have like the names or whatever,

691
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.360
<v Speaker 7>and like looking them up and like there'll be like

692
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 7>a few little things that shows that this person exists,

693
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 7>and he was like looking at someone's picture and he

694
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 7>zoomed in on it. There was now one fucking name

695
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 7>on any of the books behind him, and all the

696
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 7>photos in the frames behind them. Everybody's face was twisted

697
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.239
<v Speaker 7>and people had extra fingers. It's fucking AI. You literally

698
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 7>have some of these accounts that are spazing like a

699
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:45.119
<v Speaker 7>fucking rabbit animal for Trump is actually a fucking computer. Oh,

700
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 7>it is fucking insane.

701
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 3>I think what you have is the conflagration of the

702
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Boomer mentality, which is, you know, the first generation raised

703
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 3>solely on television with the implementation of AI, and how

704
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.000
<v Speaker 3>how could you really tell the difference between a person

705
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.559
<v Speaker 3>who believes everything they see on TV at a program

706
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 3>that you've put into action that believes everything you tell it,

707
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 3>you know?

708
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, well, at one point I was just like, yo,

709
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 7>that is crazy. But then I was like, you know what,

710
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:15.840
<v Speaker 7>I really.

711
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Hope some of the counts that I've come across were

712
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 2>like that, because it makes me feel better that maybe

713
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>not every human is actually that crazy for Trump, because like,

714
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 2>I've seen something like just crazy shit on the INCIDENTT.

715
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 3>I like that, right, and I think, what's happening is

716
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 3>is a type of cybernetic feedback. Right, So cybernetics is

717
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 3>what we're doing right now. Right, So when you're interacting

718
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.239
<v Speaker 3>with the machine and then the machine interacts back after

719
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 3>interacting with it, that's called cybernetic learning. And so what

720
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 3>they'll do is they'll throw out these associations. You follow

721
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 3>the associations, and then you get feedback. That's cybernetics. And

722
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.159
<v Speaker 3>so when you look at the Macy conferences back at

723
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the Silicon Valley era, you'll find that

724
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 3>that's what they were focused on, is how do we

725
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 3>get cybernetics into everybody's home. Now we have cybernetics in

726
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.320
<v Speaker 3>everybody's home, and now they're doing the programming. They figured

727
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 3>this stuff out in the nineteen forties.

728
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't cybernetics like a workout gym at one point? That's

729
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>happened to that.

730
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was like one of those rubber band workout

731
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 7>gyms when I was younger.

732
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it was called cybernetics.

733
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.840
<v Speaker 4>That makes sense, But it's basically the same idea.

734
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.519
<v Speaker 3>You interact with the machine and then the machine adapts

735
00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 3>to you, your answers and all the rest of it.

736
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that account I was talking about.

737
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 7>Dude, Yeah, if you saw it, I kind of send

738
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:41.639
<v Speaker 7>it to you, you'll be like, oo, that's fucking AI.

739
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 7>It's like even like a lot of times, like if

740
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 7>you I've want, Like today it was talking about something

741
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 7>about gravity. I didn't even read everything it said. It

742
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 7>just say gravity isn't what we think and I said, yeah,

743
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:55.599
<v Speaker 7>it's a downward spiral, and it actually replied exactly and

744
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.519
<v Speaker 7>then said all this shit. And then I started noticing

745
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 7>on other people he's saying exactly. I'm like, this is

746
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 7>fucking AI. And people think they're having a conversation with

747
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 7>a real account with a picture that's AI, Like, Yo,

748
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.039
<v Speaker 7>this is fucking fake.

749
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 2>And I asked it, are you AI? Nothing? I asked it,

750
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>will you come on my podcast? Nothing?

751
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 7>But if you if you comment on what it's talking about,

752
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 7>it will answer you as if you're having a conversation

753
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:23.840
<v Speaker 7>with chat GPT exactly, But those specifics it's it can't

754
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 7>answer that. It's not gonna oh sure, I'll come on

755
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 7>your podcast. It can It's a fucking computer.

756
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I Once you pro AIS reacting with AIS, and then

757
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the people reacted with the AIS, that's when you start

758
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 3>to get the mass movement.

759
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, it is freaky.

760
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 3>There was a great storyline I read about these professional wrestlers, right,

761
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 3>and these professional wrestlers were trying to, you know, get

762
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 3>the crowd to react the way they wanted to. So

763
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 3>what they would do is they would start to pump

764
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.199
<v Speaker 3>in sounds of cheering crowds when they wanted the crowd

765
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 3>to cheer. The crowd then responded and started cheering. Yes,

766
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 3>because they heard the cheers.

767
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 2>All you have to do is pay five, like five, motherfuck?

768
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Start the wave and you get that shit

769
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:12.400
<v Speaker 2>going right.

770
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.760
<v Speaker 7>No, nowadays they just put up a sign and it

771
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.000
<v Speaker 7>says applause, you fucking slaves, and you.

772
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Do it.

773
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 4>Right. That's a little bit more obvious.

774
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 3>What you want them to do is think that it

775
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 3>was their idea, and once you get that that crowd

776
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 3>energy going on, they think it was their idea, but

777
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.199
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't. And then we're back at the beginning where

778
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 3>everybody just responds to however the actors are doing it,

779
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 3>and you're back at the original church. I keep saving

780
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:47.079
<v Speaker 3>over again, theater is the original church because you're reacting

781
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:49.559
<v Speaker 3>to what you're seeing and you have that sort of

782
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 3>same relationship.

783
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 2>That's why, that's why King James like Shakespeare so much.

784
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<v Speaker 3>Women bingo, bingo, nailing it all right, Well, this is

785
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 3>a great episode. Guys, Get out there, go find out

786
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.239
<v Speaker 3>what's happening. Do it for yourself. Don't wait for somebody

787
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 3>to tell you to do it. Do it for yourself.

788
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 3>You know what you want to get into, right, it's fun.

789
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 2>You get out of the house. You'll be by yourself. Right.

790
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 4>We all got to be okay with being by ourselves,

791
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 4>you know.

792
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 6>Right.

793
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 3>This is a great episode. Thank you guys for joining on,

794
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 3>joining me on the journey. Thank you Nick, and we'll

795
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 3>see you again next time.
