1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,679 Speaker 1: What is up, Fellows Cicco's the post mortem train rolls on, 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,759 slash off season look ahead train rolls on. We're not 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,039 just talking about playoff team. We're gonna go into each 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,599 and every even kind of look at their office. 5 00:00:15,359 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Let's get each of it. The Phoenix Suns brand who 6 00:00:19,039 --> 00:00:19,399 as we. 7 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Record this, they still do need to hire a new 8 00:00:22,359 --> 00:00:25,960 head coach, but they could be get ready to do 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,760 a victory lap here inside of ten million dollars from 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,920 ducking the second Apron if they decline, I see the 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,399 meat Chach's team option and they wave Cody Martin, whose 12 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:36,560 salary is non guaranteed. 13 00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:38,079 Speaker 2: Let's kind of start here. 14 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: How much for a priority do you think that, given 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,560 all the things that matt Ishbias said, how much of 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,039 a priority? Knowing we'll get to the Kevin Durant stuff, 17 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:49,159 the Devin Booker extension stuff, do you think it's gonna 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,799 be a priority for them to get out of the 19 00:00:50,799 --> 00:00:52,359 second April lead again to next year? 20 00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:55,079 Speaker 3: I mean, shouldn't it be just just because that would 21 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:58,640 unlock a few of your roster building options, right you could? 22 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:01,280 You can aggregate under this. I feel like we're a 23 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:04,120 year into this and I can't remember being able to 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,319 trade the draft picks. Is like, just like it doesn't 25 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,760 matter because they don't have any. 26 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 4: I guess it. I mean it should be, will it be? 27 00:01:13,159 --> 00:01:15,319 I don't know. I mean, what's your read on it. 28 00:01:15,519 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it'll be a priority. I'm just curious, are 29 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,319 they gonna try and do it? Is it we're trying 30 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,000 to save money in the inevitable Kevin Durant because okay, 31 00:01:24,239 --> 00:01:26,959 those are god like they're they're expiring numbers you could 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,799 use in trade talks. I'm talking about Michicic and Cody Martin. 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,920 I also think Cody Martin could help this team win 34 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,359 a title in form of Dynasty obviously, But it's sort 35 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:38,719 of like, so you're gonna just get rid of them, 36 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,560 which is fine. They weren't heavy parts of the rotation. 37 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:41,879 Where are you coming up with, like who do you 38 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,200 want to offload to get rid of the rest of 39 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:46,200 the money and are you compensating teams to do it? 40 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: So it almost becomes. 41 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,079 Speaker 1: Critical to we get to the Kevin Durant trade talks 42 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 of it all what type of return? 43 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: It's why they expected. 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: Sham's reported this months ago at this point that after 45 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,400 they shopped them with the trade deadline. 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,079 Speaker 2: It's now they will work together to find him a 47 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,480 new home. 48 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: He has a lot of control in the situation because 49 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,439 if he says, hey, I'm not going to sign an 50 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,319 extension the two year extension with team X, Y and Z, 51 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:11,639 they have zero incentive to then go and give up 52 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,919 a ton to get an agent Kevin Durant. And then 53 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,639 you also need that team to send the Suns what 54 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:18,400 they need. 55 00:02:18,199 --> 00:02:21,759 Speaker 2: To optimize their direction. Which I throw to you is. 56 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:26,199 Speaker 3: What that's I mean, that's well in some ways, shouldn't 57 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:30,039 that be the easiest thing to answer, because what the 58 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,360 Sons want is an expensive star that is in or 59 00:02:34,439 --> 00:02:37,560 at the tail end of his prime to like give 60 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:39,960 them the chance the best chance to win today. 61 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 4: Like, isn't that the player type? Now? Who that is 62 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:44,240 and who that has? 63 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: That guy is looking to trade him for Kevin Durant, 64 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,080 who is also that guy. That's tricky. This has to 65 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,319 be a three team thing, I think. But that just 66 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,840 only makes a very complicated situation more complicated. I think 67 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Brian Windhorst had like repackaged the uh, just the dynamics 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,280 here that apply to most superstar trades in a in 69 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:09,840 a like a pretty clean way, and he called it 70 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:14,280 like the Durant triangle, which is like, one, you have 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,800 to find a team that wants Kevin Durant. Two they 72 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,039 have to have something that you want and are willing 73 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,599 to accept for Kevin Durant, and three Kevin Durant has 74 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,120 to want. 75 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: To go there. 76 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,719 Speaker 3: And so it's just like how tiny is the whole 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,919 is the eye of that needle like that just I 78 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,000 just it's gonna be very difficult, but they have to 79 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:36,599 trade him they like they must, so like I think 80 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:38,439 it's gonna be one of the most fascinating angles of 81 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:42,120 the off season to see. And I'll phrase it this way, 82 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,639 but I don't I don't know if it'll end up 83 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:46,800 being true because it only takes one but to see 84 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,280 what Phoenix is willing to settle for in moving Durant, 85 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,800 because I think Phoenix's options will be like decent and 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,560 then bad. There's no like, oh, no brainer return for 87 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,240 kd out there. I don't think I would be shocked 88 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,520 if the Phoenix side of this trade ended up looking 89 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:06,840 like if we, you know, come on to talk about 90 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,039 it and we're like, pretty good job by the Suns, 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,120 like considering pretty good. I don't think that's what we're 92 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,280 gonna say. 93 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,879 Speaker 1: Do you think it's harder easier for them to get 94 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,759 to a point where we or the outside world will 95 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,879 be okay with Kevin Tran trade knowing that unless they're 96 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:24,680 trying to get pick like you said, mentioned the third 97 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,480 team to get picks to realn a big name, does 98 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:31,079 it make it harder or easier that they would probably 99 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:33,519 be willing to accept. I would assume substar players as 100 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:35,079 part of the return because they want to flesh out 101 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:39,079 their rotation and still compete around Devin Booker next year. 102 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: So does it make it harder or easier that they 103 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:44,600 might be willing to take back like a handful of 104 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:45,720 good players. 105 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:47,399 Speaker 2: Like rather than because I don't. 106 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,319 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to get a star for Katie, 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,959 And I would also question, like, what is the level 108 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:53,959 of pick equity you're getting that you could then turn 109 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,800 around and acquire a star if you think you're gonna 110 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,879 do well, involve a third team or make a deal later. 111 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean mayas asumption would be what would let 112 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:03,639 put everything else aside? 113 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,639 Speaker 4: Do you think if they had if the. 114 00:05:05,959 --> 00:05:09,439 Speaker 3: Phoenix wants a star, don't you think like if they 115 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:11,839 could choose any return for Durant or do you are 116 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,759 you saying you think they might actually prefer like three 117 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:18,680 rotation guys, one of whom's a starter and like some picks. 118 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,399 Speaker 1: Do you think they would if that's what they have 119 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:23,120 to settle for, because how do you get a star? 120 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: I don't think. 121 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 4: I think yeah, I think that's. 122 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,959 Speaker 1: What's the part, So that if you can't get a 123 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:29,680 star for Kevin Durant, I think there's a case to 124 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,040 say they might as well just settle for other teams's 125 00:05:32,079 --> 00:05:35,000 draft picks. And Okay, Devin Booker, maybe he stays, maybe 126 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,600 you look at moving him, but they're not gonna do. 127 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,519 If Devin Booker is there, which the indications are he's 128 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:43,560 eligible for an extension for two years about one hundred 129 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,879 and fifty million. Everyone expects him to sign it, and 130 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,839 I'm just kind of like I might wait so that 131 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:50,879 he could tack on like more years next year to it. 132 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,879 But if Devin Booker is there, you're going for it 133 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,279 in so far as that's like even possible with what remains. 134 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:01,560 So yeah, I don't think to me, going though, we're 135 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,360 gonna break Kevin Durant up into two or three rotation 136 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,360 players rather than picks. That might help, but like, what 137 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,639 is it gonna help you offload salary at the trade deadline? 138 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:11,279 Like that other trade did this year where they broke 139 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:12,920 it up into three draft picks and then they traded 140 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,399 a pick to get off Derrick kage Man. 141 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,079 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess one silver lining is that they 142 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:22,800 were so disappointing and so seemingly like broken this year 143 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,680 that you could It's like, say you're Booker, you might 144 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,959 just have a better year with those three role playing 145 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,519 guys coming on in Durant's place and a coach that 146 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,680 everybody seems to I mean, Booker might just be like 147 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,279 any other coach I'll be happier with. So like, from 148 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,079 Booker's perspective, he might be fairly satisfied with an unseemingly 149 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,199 unsatisfying trade return for Durant just because, like the whole 150 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,720 the vibes might be better. That the team might win 151 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,920 more games in spite of losing the best player in 152 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:52,240 the deal, just because, like, I don't know it, just 153 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,000 they still have Booker, They still have you know, a 154 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,399 handful of guys that are real NBA players. So but yeah, 155 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,439 that's not really answering the question about like what they 156 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:02,319 should target, how they can get anything if. 157 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,319 Speaker 2: This offer was on the table. 158 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:05,519 Speaker 1: I'm not even advocating for this team in question to do, 159 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,000 and I think there need to be other things to 160 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,759 fill out. Would you do Kevin Durant for it's a 161 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,600 first round pick that's not going to convey until like 162 00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:16,279 twenty thirty one, Peyton Watson and Michael Porter Jr. As 163 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:17,720 like the baseline of the deal. 164 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: Who actually better? Who says no to that as the 165 00:07:22,279 --> 00:07:23,160 bones of a deal? 166 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:26,199 Speaker 3: Well, so I thought about it first from Phoenix's perspective, 167 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:28,000 I think I'm probably doing that. 168 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: Just I don't know what you're gonna do. 169 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: How are you gonna do? No wild cards at that point? 170 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: Which is just you know, so I'm I don't if. 171 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: You're Denver, you better do that. 172 00:07:39,839 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: If you're Denver, right, Like you're just swapping out Porter 173 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,680 Junior for Durant and like we can get someone. I mean, 174 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,639 Watson's seven minutes a game or fifteen minutes or whatever. 175 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,199 Speaker 1: The only thing that would worry me aside from Kevin 176 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Durant eight, I mean him anyone playing aside like yo, kids, 177 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,639 like think about imagine the shots, Imagine Murray too. Yeah, 178 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,360 just like are like, who's the what ok C did 179 00:08:02,399 --> 00:08:04,519 to them? Like at the beginning of the series, it's well, 180 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,360 you can't if you go after Murray, like it's gonna 181 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,000 come at the expense of probably your kitcher. Like the 182 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:12,079 Durant coverage, I would just be worried about the three 183 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:15,079 point volume. Maybe it's easier around Yo Kicic for like direct, 184 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,040 but it's they've I understand, they've built an efficient offense 185 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:19,319 without being predicated on three point. 186 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,279 Speaker 2: Now you're gonna take your. 187 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,879 Speaker 1: Best high volume three point shooter and replace him with 188 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,720 a modest volume three It would just be something to 189 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:28,399 think about. 190 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:28,759 Speaker 4: Something to think. 191 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: I'm still doing it. Defense gets better with the late 192 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:36,559 thirties Durant and they're over Reporter Junior probably. 193 00:08:36,759 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: Maybe you're back up maybe with him and Gordon as 194 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:39,600 the four five. 195 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: Your interior defense is just like fine guns would do 196 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,879 it though I'm My first reaction was yeah, because I 197 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:49,480 just don't know what else, Like I I you're better 198 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,240 at this than I am by a factor of like 199 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:51,759 one hundred. 200 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: But as I sit there trying to. 201 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:56,279 Speaker 3: Put together, like what's the best the Suns can hope 202 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:58,879 for in a Durant trade if we assume Houston's just 203 00:08:58,919 --> 00:09:01,600 like we're good, We're not. We're not getting involved, Like 204 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,240 I don't I don't know what's going to be better 205 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:07,279 than a first rounder, like a clear starter that's fairly 206 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,960 young and and a rotation guy. 207 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: And also it's kind of maybe there's a team that's 208 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,879 wanted to include more pick heck, because Peyton Watson's extension eligible, 209 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:15,840 so oh, we have to pay this guy. Porter Junior's 210 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,919 deals coming up. Some people don't even like that contract 211 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,120 right now. But let's say the Heat and want to 212 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,120 put two first round picks on the table, like the 213 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,480 returning put the Oh we're trading Kevin Durant for Iimy 214 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,879 Hawkes and Terry Rozi Rigans. Oh wait, yeah, so it's 215 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,080 it's I think you're right that if we come up 216 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,600 when we inevitably record, I don't think it'll be an 217 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:37,679 emergency because we'll all expect maybe it'll be a team 218 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,440 that comes out of the woodwork to get Kevin Durant. 219 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:42,960 But I could see it's just being oh, all right, 220 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:45,840 I'd be shocked. Wow, this Sune really killed this, and 221 00:09:45,879 --> 00:09:48,600 if they did, I'll be prepared to probably like lampoo 222 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:52,159 in the team that UH acquire him. I did want 223 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,879 to get to the Devin Booker at all, because I've 224 00:09:53,879 --> 00:09:55,840 seen a lot of they just need to trade Devin Booker, 225 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:59,919 and the move is you contact Phoenix, you contact Houston, 226 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:00,919 and you get. 227 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: Your picks back. Ye. 228 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying I would be opposed to that, 229 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:07,360 but what I am saying is, I don't think it's 230 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,799 that simple, because you know where your pick is gonna 231 00:10:09,799 --> 00:10:10,519 wind up this year. 232 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: Let's say that one's on the table coming back from Houston. 233 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,159 Speaker 1: But like, you've kind of positioned yourself to have a 234 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,799 choppy rebuild because oh, you can get your twenty twenty 235 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,559 seven pickback but not your twenty twenty six, And you 236 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,320 can get your twenty twenty nine pick back, but you're 237 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,240 you're twenty twenty eight. 238 00:10:24,519 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: What are you supposed to do now? 239 00:10:27,039 --> 00:10:29,799 Speaker 1: If Houston is saying, we're gonna also give you a 240 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,840 cornerstone around which to build, and I think the names 241 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:36,320 would be like Shanngoun Jabari or Amen Thompson. I don't 242 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,639 think they give up A'men Thompson and a Devin Booker trade. 243 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,559 And I think you also look at it as even 244 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,399 if they would, you'd prefer to just give up more 245 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,440 assets to not have to do that. 246 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: So just where do you land on that. 247 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,159 Speaker 1: I think it's a I guess what I'm getting at is, well, 248 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:51,360 I'm not opposed to it. I think it's a it's 249 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,679 a more detailed discussion than some people are just no, 250 00:10:53,759 --> 00:10:55,759 you need to trade Devin Booker get your picks back, 251 00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:57,480 And it's if you were telling me they were gonna 252 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:01,159 get successive picks back, like the next three. All right, now, 253 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,960 let's talk like what in theory Milwaukee could do if 254 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Jannis went to Portland, Like you could regain control over 255 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,200 your next three picks or not your next three, but 256 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,679 I think twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, or what you. 257 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: Want is immediate control over over imminent drafts so that 258 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,519 you can tank quickly and get like back in a 259 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,600 position in two years where everybody's happy again. 260 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:24,399 Speaker 1: And failing that, you at least want the successive picks 261 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,519 back to where okay, Like if they could get back 262 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,000 twenty eight through thirty, maybe that's more of a discussion 263 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,559 than twenty five, where they already know it's gonna be 264 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:34,399 twenty seven and twenty nine. 265 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:40,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm not of the mind that it's 266 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,679 like you just well, I don't know what I if 267 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,279 I knew, I could just get everything back that Houston 268 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,759 has of mine for Booker with like I don't think 269 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:54,919 it Thompson is realistic, but like a couple players, I 270 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,759 think I think that is the really like if you 271 00:11:57,919 --> 00:11:59,960 just look at the options ahead of the Suns and like, 272 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,240 how do we make how do we make the best 273 00:12:02,279 --> 00:12:02,559 of this? 274 00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: I think that's probably. 275 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: Still the way if you're gonna be totally cold and 276 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,799 callous about it. It sucks that Booker seems to want 277 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:13,960 to be there and and that like he didn't you know, 278 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,600 he didn't design any of this like he was. He's 279 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:18,960 like he woke up and suddenly the team that was 280 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,159 in the finals and won sixty whatever games was just 281 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,799 not there anymore. That's rough for someone like, you know, 282 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,000 it's it's old fashioned, but it's like it's nice when 283 00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:28,960 guys stay with teams for a long time. Still, that's 284 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,200 a cool thing. I just don't know what the way 285 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,480 forward is if you're not willing to trade him, because 286 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,200 we just talked about how Thorny getting anything for Durant 287 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,559 is gonna be and you could. 288 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:42,919 Speaker 1: Hurt yourself by being too lasered in on we need 289 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,440 to be good around Devin Booker and then pass on 290 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:48,039 maybe a more draft pick focus return that would have 291 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:51,759 helped you like sort of relaunch your existence. 292 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: And how good can you be around Devin Booker with 293 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:57,919 the other constraints that Phoenix has, like Beil is still there, 294 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,480 that's still a massive problem and a just a huge 295 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:04,799 like suck on your salary cap and you're not gonna 296 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:07,799 have young talent infusion through the draft of any consequence. 297 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:10,080 You're not gonna like I don't see anybody on the 298 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,879 current roster that's like ready to bust. So yeah, you 299 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:16,559 could be competitive with with Booker, but I feel like 300 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,120 you're really just signing up for like you know, fighting 301 00:13:20,159 --> 00:13:22,639 for a playing spot again, like for for a while. 302 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: So I like, if that's. 303 00:13:23,919 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: What you want as a franchise and as a fan, 304 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:28,360 like I'm not gonna begrudge that. I just don't think 305 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:31,720 that's the optimal way to try to run a team. 306 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,480 So yeah, trading Booker does. 307 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:33,799 Speaker 2: Don't you. 308 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:36,279 Speaker 4: I mean, what's the what's the what's. 309 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,879 Speaker 3: The argument for not trading Booker to Houston? If we 310 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,120 go with the made up idea that like the Sons 311 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,759 could pull off something close to the ideal like take 312 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:45,559 from the Rockets. 313 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,639 Speaker 1: So if it's let's say it's read Shepherd Jabbari and 314 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,519 your picks back, I think some Suns fans might argue 315 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:54,320 that's not enough. I think Houston fans are gonna say 316 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,759 that's too much. And I think the argument against it 317 00:13:56,759 --> 00:13:59,919 would be that that you're not getting everything back, Like 318 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,960 we kind of saw what the Spurs did. Well, they 319 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,120 didn't give stuff back, but it's like, I mean, Houston 320 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,840 did this with Brooklyn, like not Brooklyn doesn't have all 321 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,720 its own picks back. And so if you're the Suns, 322 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:12,639 what if you can't get all your picks? But then 323 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,240 it should be a non star or is it not? 324 00:14:14,279 --> 00:14:16,080 If you can get twenty five and twenty seven? Is 325 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,840 that part of the appeal? I mean it's also I 326 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,159 guess the argument would be, what if Houston's not interested 327 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:25,440 in Booker and they say, we're going it's not a 328 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,639 Booker thing, like we want to see what this group 329 00:14:27,679 --> 00:14:29,200 and do how they could grow. We want a dust 330 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,600 Off reachepper next season. Yeah, is there an argument then 331 00:14:32,679 --> 00:14:34,759 to trade I guess there's an argument to trade him, 332 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:36,840 but doesn't it make it far less appealing if that 333 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,320 for some reason, whether it's the Rockets won't give you 334 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,120 all that stuff back, or they're just not in the 335 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:43,600 market for Devin Booker right now, Where do you then 336 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:45,360 land on the Devin Booker front. Is it's let's just 337 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:47,600 scour and kind of do the you know, we're just 338 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,559 gonna try and get as much assets from whatever team 339 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,440 is as possible. Or is it well, we might as 340 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,159 well just keep this guy then, because we're not gonna 341 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:55,919 have control over our drafts still until twenty thirty two. 342 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's definitely a harder call if Houston's just 343 00:14:59,679 --> 00:15:01,759 off the table and or is like you can have 344 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:04,720 this year's pick back and you know, or something like that. 345 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. 346 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:08,879 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that that that makes it really close 347 00:15:08,919 --> 00:15:12,720 because at that point, you're we're assuming they're trading Durant regardless. 348 00:15:12,759 --> 00:15:15,440 So the team is I don't know different. I don't 349 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,639 know if it's better maybe it has another pick coming 350 00:15:17,679 --> 00:15:18,919 in from that. 351 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 4: Deal, but like, how good is that? How good is 352 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:22,639 the team still? 353 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: Like is it? 354 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: I don't see, Like I don't know. I think I 355 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,360 think it's just like a question of how comfortable you 356 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:33,120 are winning between thirty five and forty five games for 357 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,039 a while, as you know. But again, like if you 358 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,960 aren't going to really get any benefit from being terrible 359 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,759 because you don't have your own picks, then I guess 360 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:43,799 like it's a fit. It's fair to ask, like what's 361 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,440 the point of bottoming out that that? You know, like 362 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:49,000 you just you can't get them back any other way. 363 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,039 So I don't know, it's a closer call. 364 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: I might just lean. 365 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: Towards you got to you gotta start over like this 366 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,840 the Booker era has like run its course, which is 367 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,240 feels crazy to say. It makes me feel old, but 368 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:02,799 I mean he's he's been in the league ten years, right, 369 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,879 he's It's just like, what do you are the next 370 00:16:05,879 --> 00:16:09,519 handful of years gonna be better than the than the last handful? 371 00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 4: Like probably not? 372 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:13,039 Speaker 2: Do you know what? Course? I wondered if this would 373 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:13,960 even be on the table. 374 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: So I think it's Washington is the one that has 375 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,039 control over their twenty six first rounder, right with the swap, 376 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,360 like they have the initial swap, I believe. 377 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:23,919 Speaker 4: I sure, well, let's go with it. 378 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,039 Speaker 1: They're the first team that comes up. So twenty twenty 379 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:28,759 six first round pick to Washington, or Lando, Memphis or Charlotte. 380 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:31,120 They've worn as Zacha calls. They've hordcucks that thing. It's 381 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,679 been hor cucks so many times. Could you do something 382 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,840 like if the Bucks sent there first, they could trade 383 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,679 one distant first round pick. I think at twenty thirty 384 00:16:39,679 --> 00:16:42,039 one or twenty thirty two they sent that to Washington 385 00:16:42,559 --> 00:16:44,840 to send those swap rights back to Phoenix, and then 386 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:47,639 you're flipping Bradley Beal for Damian Lillard. So the Suns 387 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:50,679 now have their gap year. They can tank their hearts 388 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,159 out if they want. Maybe they're still moving Kevin Durant. 389 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,480 They get off Bradley Beal's no trade clause, Milwaukee keeps 390 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Giannis and has someone who's immediately gonna play rather than Dame, 391 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,080 who he plays at some point next year, but it's 392 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,240 probably not gonna play much. Yeah, is that who's the 393 00:17:05,279 --> 00:17:07,359 team that says of all that and it just came 394 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:07,559 to me. 395 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna be offended if you're like, it's. 396 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: Saying that that just came to you first of all, 397 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,119 that's like, that's pretty good. So the Bucks are paying 398 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,640 basically the only first that they can trade to turn 399 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,960 Lillard into beal. 400 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,599 Speaker 1: Right, and that's I think that's most iffy. But if 401 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,440 you were trying to keep you honest and be competitive 402 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,519 next year, oh, I don't think. 403 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: That's iffy at all. 404 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: I think because Lillard's a zero next year, like you're 405 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:30,039 getting nothing, Bill, say what you want, he's not a 406 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:30,720 zero at least. 407 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: Well, but now you're getting Bradley be on a no 408 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,759 trade clause? Well giving up your Yeah, well okay. The 409 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:38,440 other thing you could say is would Phoenix give up 410 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,920 in that scenario like they have those other Like they 411 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,960 have this twenty twenty five pick that'll be number twenty 412 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,680 nine or whatever. Would they send that out to grease 413 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,519 the wheels or one of those they could trade one 414 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:48,599 in twenty eight or twenty nine. 415 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: I believe it's not their own. 416 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: So if I'm Phoenix, I'm if I'm trading Kevin Durant anyway, 417 00:17:54,279 --> 00:17:57,119 I'm absolutely considering that I get my pickback for one year. 418 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,200 And then what you've done is you've no kind of 419 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,119 opened the door, like if you have to move Booker 420 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,000 next summer, maybe Houston wants in still control your twenty 421 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:04,559 seven pick. 422 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,799 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's stupid. 423 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:09,559 Speaker 1: Again, when it comes to the moment, I haven't a 424 00:18:09,599 --> 00:18:12,000 time to think about it, but it's I don't know. 425 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:14,880 If I'm Washington, maybe that he's been I'm kind of like, no, 426 00:18:15,079 --> 00:18:17,279 you know, like a really distant Milwaukee pick at this 427 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:19,359 point with Giannis getting up there and we've already seen 428 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,440 the fergility of Milwaukee, I. 429 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: Don't have it well. 430 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: And just from the Sun's side, you get off of Beal, 431 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,720 which is like it's still it's next year's fifty three, 432 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,359 fifty seven on a player option in twenty like this 433 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,519 could go on like. 434 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: For a while. 435 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: Honestly, if I'm Phoenix, I know I mentioned I might 436 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,680 include one of those, like other for like that number 437 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,200 twenty nine first year, I might include other stuff too 438 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,759 to make it just work. Just to have that, like 439 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,799 having your control of your own pick like that would 440 00:18:46,799 --> 00:18:47,920 be that'd be monstrous. 441 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we spent most of this time talking about 442 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,200 Durant and Booker, and like the Beal contract is I 443 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,759 think still I think like this is some hot take 444 00:18:57,799 --> 00:19:01,079 like that is still just such a hintance to ever 445 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,079 turning this around. 446 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: It is And I will say I was wrong in 447 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,559 the moment because I said, when I looked at the 448 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,839 value that went out. 449 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: I was like, maybe if it's not super intuitive. 450 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,759 Speaker 1: But you weren't gonna get more value for this, and 451 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:14,200 in retrospect the value would have been you're not married 452 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:18,599 to this contrastuck. The cardinal sin, though, is and I 453 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:20,400 don't think Jameson's. If I had a guess just based 454 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,200 off how James Jones assembled the team, it's not on him. 455 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:27,839 The cardinal sin was not negotiating in the Kevin Durant trade. Sure, 456 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,599 you let Brooklyn ask and gave them whatever they wanted, 457 00:19:31,839 --> 00:19:32,960 And that's the cardinal sin. 458 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: We've spent a lot of time. 459 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: I guess it's like, what is the biggest need, like 460 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,240 if you're if you're trying to fill needs via trade, 461 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,119 whether it's with those first or a Kevin Durantry, Like, 462 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,720 what is is it? Two way wings? Is it you 463 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:46,359 want to a big who can I cut like a 464 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,880 supercharged OsO like something like a big who can make 465 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,319 decisions that plays next to Booker? 466 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: What is it? 467 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:51,599 Speaker 1: Like? 468 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: What are you c is it? Do you want like 469 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:54,480 an actual four general in here? 470 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: I think it's Tom Izzo and I think Ishbe is 471 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,920 gonna pay him seventy five MILLI million dollars a year 472 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,279 to come coach the team because he has a Michigan 473 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:05,880 state tie, and that's all that seems. 474 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,279 Speaker 4: To matter in their decision making. 475 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,759 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think you listed out most or 476 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:12,000 all of the good options. 477 00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I'm like, which one? You're like, yes, 478 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,000 all of them. 479 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,319 Speaker 3: I mean it's I would okay if you had to 480 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:21,680 pick one thing. I think what might make me feel 481 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,240 better about the Sun's like just floor and like baseline 482 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:30,440 functionality is is like a high end starting center who's 483 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,599 gonna like control the paint defensively, have some like some 484 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,519 lob gravity and just like can't like I don't know 485 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:38,000 who that is. 486 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: I don't know how they get him. 487 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: Something like that feels like it could organize the team 488 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,279 in a in a positive way. 489 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:48,039 Speaker 1: I almost agree, but I'm I and I think the 490 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:50,720 world of Devin Booker is a passer. But like, I 491 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,319 don't trust anyone on this team to capitalize on a 492 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,400 lob threat. And so I'm kind of thinking, like in 493 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,039 the osil Vain of get it to him on the 494 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:01,079 short roll. Yeah, whatever, Sure, it might still be a center. 495 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,119 I just wonder if it needs to be more dynamic 496 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,200 than what you just outlaid yeah. 497 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:08,319 Speaker 3: I mean it's just like, sure, that's not great that 498 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,119 it might have to be that it might have to. 499 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 4: Be more dynamic. 500 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: I mean they like, are we just also back to like, 501 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,640 you know, we can't have Booker and Beald and whoever 502 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,519 they get back for Durant just shouldering this crazy playmaking load. 503 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:23,519 We need a point guard again because Tyas Jones's deal 504 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:25,880 is up, and it's just like, well, who's gonna fill 505 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,319 that role? 506 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: Like I don't. I mean, you're only if you are 507 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,240 in the second apron. 508 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: You're working with minimums and at most they might be 509 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,759 able to work with the mini mid level, which just 510 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,000 even when we liked them, like remember when the Clippers 511 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,240 got John Wall, we were like, are right, all right, 512 00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:41,240 good use good use of it very rarely. I mean 513 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,039 Denver's are like Dario Sartz Reggie Jackson, like those signings 514 00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:46,759 just aren't sometimes get more traction out of the minimums 515 00:21:46,759 --> 00:21:48,720 like Russell Westbrook, and Denver has been better than the 516 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Reggie Jackson experience. 517 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,759 Speaker 2: So I mean I'm. 518 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: Personally ready for For me, it's just to be to 519 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,359 be the starter for eighty two games. 520 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: I feel like that's the way we're headed. 521 00:21:57,079 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: Well, they might they're gonna probably decline a team option 522 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,440 to duck the aprin. I don't I don't back on 523 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,119 the minimum. I don't know what this team is gonna do. 524 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: They have a ton of needs, not many mechanisms to 525 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:09,559 fill them. I think that they're gonna view to kind 526 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:12,000 of wrap this up. I think that they're gonna view 527 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:16,359 that Kevin Durant trade as the vehicle through which they 528 00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:20,880 check as many of the like roster current roster void 529 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,480 boxes as they have. Maybe they'll look more so at 530 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,160 can we turn this into a high end guy or 531 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:26,680 maybe they will. 532 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,079 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll I will I'll. 533 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,319 Speaker 1: Be most surprised if they prioritize draft equity. Maybe if 534 00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:33,599 he goes to Houston, maybe that's not as surprising. 535 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I think I think reading reading most 536 00:22:36,759 --> 00:22:39,680 of the comments, I think that that's our front coming 537 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,039 out of the Suns and Ishbia specifically, I feel like 538 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,680 that's the hierarchy is like, if they could pick it 539 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,640 would be superstar as good as Kevin Durant, so we 540 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,400 can win a championship this year. Down a couple levels 541 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,640 like actual rotation guys that could help us not suck, 542 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,319 and then below that is like I would like some 543 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,720 distant draft equity because we're playing the long game. Like 544 00:22:56,759 --> 00:22:58,960 that's just you know that that's not the way they 545 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,279 want to go. All right, Thanks everybody for listening, for watching. 546 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,119 As we head into the off seasons, you are going 547 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,319 to continue to be interesting things to look at as 548 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,599 we head towards free agency, trades, the draft, all that stuff. 549 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Thanks for listening, Thanks for watching. Actually I'm gonna start over. 550 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,519 Speaker 4: Don't use that. 551 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:13,039 Speaker 1: That sucks. 552 00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:17,279 Speaker 2: I hope I forgot so we pauses for a second. 553 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,519 Speaker 3: All right, that's going to do it. Thanks everybody for listening, 554 00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:23,000 for watching. If you have not already, please remembers. 555 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 4: Or rate for you and subscribe. 556 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,759 Speaker 3: If you're watching this on YouTube, gives a thumbs up, 557 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:28,880 leave us a comment there, join our discord links for 558 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,519 that or in the YouTube podcast description. Tell your friends, 559 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:34,480 Tell your enemies shouts Franklin Keen an apologies, Jared Allen