Speaker 1: What is up, fellows, Eiko's I am Dana Valley coming
at you with the one, the only, this certified, fantabulous.
Mister Grant Hughes are look ahead offseason train keeps rolling.
We're on to the Brooklyn Nets, Grant, before we belly
flop in to the team that I think is gonna
define the NBA offseason quite frankly, do you have any
words that you need to get off your chest for now?
Speaker 2: The Brooklyn Nets are the most important team in the NBA.
Let's jump in with that.
Speaker 1: How's that for a beginning? Yeah, They're gonna define the
offseason because this is the note that before we dig
into their vitals, no other team is gonna be working
with cap space like anything more than the mid level.
The Pistons, after Kate Cunningham making all NBA and his
salary getting bumped up, it just makes sense for them
to keep Dennis Shrewder's cap hold at least on the books.
Maybe for Tim Hardaway Junior to try to keep ma
League Beasley using the mid level and just operate over
the cap. So the Nets are the only team that
is gonna have more than the mid level exception to
spend I don't know when the last time. Can you
recall at any point where there's only been one team
with more cap space than that?
Speaker 2: Usually usually I can definitely remember where. I mean, maybe
as recently as last off season.
Speaker 3: It's all a blur.
Speaker 2: But like there's always three or four, you know, and
there's maybe two that can spend max money or something like.
But this is this feels new to me where if
anything's getting done, uh, Brooklyn has to be involved, and
if any free agent is looking for a payoff, Brooklyn
has to be involved.
Speaker 3: Like it's just that.
Speaker 1: Free agents get linked to the Nets.
Speaker 2: Oh, I guarantee if you did like a word cloud
for off season transaction news, Brooklyn and Nets would be
it would be like just these two giant fonts and
then everything else would be tiny.
Speaker 1: Did you want to take us through their off season vitals? Sure?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: They project, speaking of that cap space for up to
sixty seven million, including a twelve point one million dollar
restrictor free agent w hole on on the one and
only Cam Thomas score extraordinary all their first round picks,
of which there are like a trillion, They have eight, nineteen,
twenty six and twenty seven plus number thirty six. There's
a Cam Johnson extension eligibility situation. We can get into that.
The cap space though, Dan, let's back up a little bit.
We've got it at sixty seven plus. Here you see
forty five. Sometimes you see upwards of fifty. You see
fifty five. This is all like to me, it doesn't
So that's all just like, well we counting this, are
we assuming this cap hold? Are we assuming that draft?
Like the takeaway just needs to be that like, as
we said at the very beginning, that Brooklyn is the
only team with significant spending power. So don't get anchored
to the sixty seven right, Like it's just they're the.
Speaker 1: It could be eighty, right if they want to get
right Camp Thomas, it could be eighty.
Speaker 3: Which I mean, then that would be exciting. It's just
the boy.
Speaker 2: I bet you they wish there were some real free
agents that we're gonna leave their teams this summer.
Speaker 1: It's just if you had like eighty million in cap space, whatever,
Like what is the player where it's just like the
most expensive player you could envision just being sent into that.
It's probably guess a Bradley bal or Paul George would
be the well.
Speaker 2: So, but that gets into that's the way that they're
going to use their cap space, which is just like
we're taking on bad money.
Speaker 1: With Paul George as well. What kind of picks it is?
The number three pick? Like it to Brooklyn And that's there. Sorry,
I didn't mean to cut you off there, but no,
they have a lot of cap space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else to talk about? We have to decide
what cam Thomas is worth. I don't want I'm just
like running down the list here. We can just stop
anywhere you would like to.
Speaker 3: Do you want to.
Speaker 1: How much of a priority if you're Brooklyn, because like, okay,
would you just so I'm looking at it and saying,
he's shown more I think as a score, as a
sustainable score than I kind of thought of him earlier
on in his career. I still do not trust him.
I don't think he's improved nearly enough as a passer,
waxes and wanes too much as a defender. But like,
what are you giving him and how much of a
priority is it if you're Brooklyn? Do you value the
idea of flexibility to where it's like we'll maybe offer
you a balloon to one plus one with a team
option or do they just like, honestly, if you just
gave him the qualifying offer, like that's the offer there,
what other team is coming in and beaten at for
cam Thomas right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I was gonna say, like, any
deal you sign him to just because of where Brooklyn is,
I think you have to view it as as like
can we trade him for something at this number? I
was kind of the qualifying offer is interesting. I was
just thinking, like would I ever go, like if someone
would I go above the mid level for him?
Speaker 3: Like I don't don't. I don't want to like just
knock him.
Speaker 2: But I have you seen enough from him to make
you feel confident that he's more than a mid level
exception like full mid level obviously like type of asset,
Like I just I don't know if.
Speaker 1: It's more than three for fifty, let's say, or around
that ballpark. I don't I'm not saying it'll age into
one of the worst contracts in the league, but that
makes me a little queasy as a NETS team where
it's we're still looking for. Yeah, he's great right now
when you don't have that tent pole building block because
he can eat up so many possessions and can make
good things happen a lot of the time when he's
doing it. But you don't want to get saddled right now.
Your your books are so clean. And I almost came
at this from the perspective of what if they decide
that they want to roll their cap space into twenty
twenty six and so do they even want him on
like a longer term deal beyond next season.
Speaker 2: That's interesting I had, So I was like trying to
list out, like, Okay, the Nets can do one of
three things. You know, with all this cap space. You
can take bad money in with picks. You can be
a facilitator that's win in three team deals. That's kind
of a combined one. You can be a threat in
restricted free agency and go mess around with other teams
by he's sending out some offer sheets or I guess
really just one. Probably you can sign what unrestricted free
agents there are? Are you interested in? Miles Turner and
tied your ome like, probably not that other one rolling
the cap space over though I hadn't really given a
whole lot of thought to but based on what people
seem to think about the twenty six class, it's certainly
better than this one.
Speaker 3: Do you think would they do that?
Speaker 2: Do you think that's a realistic possibility where you're just
doing one year things or you're you're just hitting the
salary floor and you're trying to stay flexible so you
can so you could just be be this player again
in twenty six.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't see why not, because there's even just situations
where you're what you're saying there then is well, then
they can't take back long term money in trades, and
that's where a lot of value is and it's well
like if you're subbing out a Cam Johnson salary or
a Nick Claxton salary as part of a trade, like, no,
you can take back long term money and still roll
over the cap space and look a lot of there.
Like D'Angelo Russell is an example, because one of my
questions here would be is anyone else on this team
a priority? When you're looking at the free agents? D
Lo could be maybe semi important right now? Can you
pay him just to stick around on a one year
deal and keep yourself flexible. I just wouldn't rule it out.
I think Brooklyn not taking on any long term money
during the season kind of proved to me that there's
just a bunch of different balls in the air and
things on the table for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe maybe the goal was just to
be opportunistic, and certainly they've put themselves in this position
to do that, and like maybe they don't. They're just
kind of waiting to see, like, well, which which of
the because everybody seems to think this is going to
be a crazy offseason. It's I'm a little skeptical about that.
But they'll just have to sit back and just wait
for the hey can you help us out calls to
roll in and pick, you know, the best situation to
play facilitator and get the most stuff out of it.
Maybe maybe they don't even really have a g a
sure plan. It's just kind of waiting to see what
shows up.
Speaker 1: Well, so what would you do if you're Sean Marx
and running the nets? And I'll preface this with saying, bye,
they can trade up to thirteen first round picks this summer,
which is actually kind of bunkers.
Speaker 3: That seems wrong.
Speaker 1: It seems wrong. That's like the stuff of Oklahoma City legend. Right.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, Utah is jealous.
Speaker 1: Now they've been linked to Yannis and Sean Marx has
said that they wouldn't accelerate unless it's for the right player,
which is basically just typical executives speak there before even
asking what you would do. I guess then I don't
understand the Yeah, they have assets, but I don't understand
the appeal of going. Even if it's Yannis, one of
the five best players in the league, you still have
so much left to do after getting him. This isn't
a situation where you signed Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant
while only really like costing yourself cap space. This is
gonna eat because you don't have any like ten pole prospects.
How many of those thirteen first round picks are you
giving up? Priann? It's a tent to Koupo.
Speaker 3: Well a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, because my first reaction to
that was to should they be in on Yannis whatever
that means? Like was no, because like you can't prove
to me or even like make it seem likely that
the Nets with Yannis and whatever else they can put
together around him will be any better than the Bucks
team that he was just on, And so like, from
his perspective, why does he want to do that unless
suddenly he cares about market size. And from a team perspective,
it's just like, so, now we have an incredibly expensive
I'll just say aging like he's like he was phenomenal
this year, but you are on the wrong side of
the honest career trajectory curve now, like and you have
what else, Like I just I get it, Like maybe
we're overthinking it. And if you can get Yannest, you
just do that regardless and you figure everything else out after,
because getting him or someone like him is the hard
part that like you just have to have done before
you figure out the supporting cast. But like, I don't know,
it just doesn't It feels like that would just they
just don't have enough. You said it, like they wouldn't
have enough to support him to make getting him worth it,
which feels crazy because like you, I don't know, I'm hesitant.
I'm hesitant, is what I would say to just throw
it all in for you.
Speaker 1: Honest, I wouldn't do it. I just don't think. I mean,
if he's coming there, even if he's coming there with
another player, like how like you have the room exception
to spend at that point. I don't I just don't
know how you flesh out a contender anytime soon. I
would need to know. I guess the outgoing assets in
terms of okay, did they keep cam Johnson and so
it's Giannis Cam Johnson and they lan they had enough
assets to get another star? Who is that star? There's
just too many variables involved. I also think going that
direction overstates the urgency with which they need to operate.
I know that their twenty twenty seven pick is like
not their own, but after that it's the clean slate.
So it wasn't just you bought this too year. Yeah, okay,
twenty twenty seven unless you can acquire that pickback too.
You have to take a spoonful of medicine. Fine, but
it's one year and that's not a good enough reason
to be well, we gotta get Yannest and like see
what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Do you uh, it's just like to pivot a little
bit to free agency in general. Do you think there's
what do you think the odds are of them being
the team that is, like, let's mess around with the
bulls and throw something at Josh Giddy or the Warriors
Kamingo or get into like if it's not just offer sheets,
like let's do some sign and trade stuff for some
restricted free agents.
Speaker 3: Do you think that might be a route they would go.
Speaker 1: I would say ye, yes, because Sean Marks has done
it before. But I'm also just when you look at
this restricted free agency class specifically, like I feel like
there's money they could throw a Jonathan Camik as an
example of Warriors just be like have them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's just that's the risk you run. You have
to really want the player. They shouldn't want Giddy at
what he's asking for, which is one hundred and twenty
plus million over five that's more than fifteen percent of
the salary cap. He's too limited of a player to
give him that. But like, also, if you know the
Bulls are gonna match and you're just like, well, we're
gonna give him one forty we know that, we know
that they're gonna well, they can't do that. They can
only give him four years. But like if they they
give them thirty million dollars a year rather than that
twenty four million and they know the Bulls are gonna
match it, I could see them doing that. I don't
know if that's like if you know the other team
is gonna match just to mess with their books. I
think that's a good use of cap space. But there's
no one restricted free agent, or even when you're looking
at flyer free agents where it's like what if you
just offered them kind of like what the Pacers did
with Bruce Brown after he won the title in Denver?
There might be a situation that a one plus one,
it's a team option? Do you do that with Nikkei?
Alexander Walker was the name he brought up during the
Timberwolves podcast. I don't know if there's a name out
there that stands out. I think the one that will
come up the most is should they be in on
Jonathan Kaminga And should they just make it a sign
and trade with Golden State to avoid having to overpay
to get him.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, I think I think that's a route they really
could go. Would you agree though, that that option one
should still probably be We'll just take some bad money
with picks attached or young players attached as a facilitator, Like,
isn't that isn't that? Just like it seems like the
easiest way to go, it's kind of the least ambitious.
It also you know, definitely just signals that the Nets
are comfortable being like less competitive for a while. But
that feels like the plan anyway to me.
Speaker 1: I do agree that that's like the right course, and
which is why this is why they're the team that
could just define the NBA off season, because they're gonna
determine what so many other teams can do. I mean,
even if it's a matter of overpaying other guys too,
that impacts the rest of the NBA because teams lose players.
Other teams who have the mid level exception lose out
on targets. But I guess my question here would be,
and if anyone watching on the screen have a typo,
it's the Nets can get to almost eighty million in
cap space, not seventy million if they get rid of
cam Thomas. If you're Brooklyn, what intrigues you more because
like of this scenario, like you're headed dis direction that
you laid out grant, but you kind of have the
options of do you just kind of do it on
the margins where it's oh, team X needs a we'll
give us a first round pick to take on this contract,
and team why will give us another first round pick?
Or is it something that's a little bit more nuclear
where it's just as an example, if there's a construction
where you're sending out Cam Johnson and you're getting back
like number three in Paul George from the six, like,
is it you're doing something more nuclear like that? If
you're Brooklyn, what would you what are you prioritizing? And
by the way, they just have so much cap space
that they could do both.
Speaker 2: But still, yeah, yeah, my head went first to, all right,
so Durant wants to get to the wolves, how do
we step in and facilitate that? And then Giannis wants
to get to the Spurs. How do we step in
and facilitate that. The Spurs are fairly flexible, so they
might not even really need Brooklyn to help a lot
the but but yeah, like I like, I like the
idea of picking up a few things here and there
without taking on like a Paul George level contract or
like a or like a Bradley Beal or whatever. Like
I even you know, not that the suns can sweeten
the Bradley Beal thing with much of anything, but I
I if I had in a perfect world, I think
the nets would would kind of just you know, vacuum
up assets, you know, a couple at a time in
different moves, as opposed to just like getting a quote
unquote blue chip in a number three pick with Paul
George or something like that, just because then you're like,
what do we do with this Paul George contract? Yeah, well,
like that's not something you You're just you're just gonna
live with that for its duration. Like maybe I think
I think that's an option, And because maybe the other
like the sort of the you know, an asset here,
an asset there, kind of facilitator role might not be
as easy to pull off as I'm making it sound.
But I'd rather do that than just say, like, well,
now we have this you know, fifty million dollar aging
veteran for several more years, but we got the number
three pick. Like that's that that. I don't like that
one as much?
Speaker 1: Would you do something this is he makes a lot less.
But let's say the Nuggets are doing some type of
trade and the other team doesn't want Michael Porter Junior.
Is that someone that you'd be willing to burn cap
space on or no, you need a pretty good sweetener
to take the next two years of his deal.
Speaker 2: If I'm just getting Porter and like not much with him.
Speaker 1: I like, even if you're getting somewhere, it's like, what
would you need to get to take on, Like does
it need to be a first round pick? Would something
like a oh, we'll take a flyer on Julian Strather
doing for you? Is it because Michael portin you're still
a useful player?
Speaker 2: He is?
Speaker 1: He fits like he's not gonna ruin your rebuild because
you won't win enough with him. But also he shoot
like he he fits next to pretty much anybody.
Speaker 2: I think if it's him, he's he's like he's definitely
not in the George or Beale tier. But I would
want a first with him because I'm not sure that
you could turn around and trade him for like equal
value or positive value, Like you're not gonna send him
somewhere and get more picks from somebody else, like just
because he's not I don't think. Maybe maybe that's not right,
but I would I would need a first included with him.
I wouldn't just take him on and say like, oh,
you know, he's a good player, he's a starting caliber
guy like we might. I just I want something just
plus like I don't know we're mostly past it, but
what about his his history of back injuries, like that
could just become not not so great money pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: It's already not so great money.
Speaker 1: Would you need anything to take Let's say the Pacers
decide we're not gonna pay the tax, we need to
keep Miles Turner. Are you requiring anything to take on
Obie Topping? Uh?
Speaker 2: Maybe like a second maybe or maybe not even anything.
I think he's a little overpaid, but he's definitely shown
some utility and like deep playoff runs, So I think
I think that's that's and just the numbers smaller. It's
just not it's not the MPG level, and it's certainly
not the Paul George level.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if, like, would Miami give you anything to
take on Terry Rosier or Duncan Robinson if he actually
dunkin Robins is pretty important to them, so I won't
look it like would they give you anything to take
on Terry Rozier's expiring contract? Like that's a lot of money,
but it's only for one year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, and what would Miami even be?
Miami would have to have a pretty like hot iron
in the fire to be willing to pay additional assets
to get off a salary that small relatively speaking, I
think you could take Terry Rogier on for like a
good second or protected first. This assumes that there's not
that Brooklyn has like struck out on all the other
more like lucrative options.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, they have, They're just gonna have
so many they I mean the team we haven't brought
up that they could help out a ton is Boston
to where they have guys where it's I guess they
don't align with Brooklyn's timeline, But are you gonna require it,
like if they were well Drew Holidays, just like if
they give you a first round pick, you're taking on
Drew Holiday and saying, let's even say it's number twenty nine,
You've got you what your fifth first rounder of this draft.
But it's well, okay, we'll move up, or we'll package
those picks together to move up and then like we
will trade Drew Holiday for something else at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I but that raises I agree with that.
That raises another issue, Like if you're offering a twenty
twenty five first round pick to Brooklyn, I don't think
that that's gonna sway them very much because they have
so many like I'm gonna want I'm gonna want the
like you know, latter half of the decade, give me
some late twenties maybe you know, twenty thirties, twenty thirty
one stuff, because like that, we should probably have a
conversation about these picks because like, I guess they could
just sign for first rounders, uh, but teams don't typically
do that. Teams also aren't typically as cash rich as
the nets.
Speaker 3: Are right now? Is there a market to move up?
Speaker 2: Like who's looking for like AID and nineteen or AID
in nineteen and twenty seven to give up?
Speaker 1: What about like some of the more expensive teams moving
forward trying to like get more like Philly, does eight
and nineteen get you three? Or I mean, like do
you need to include a third you want eight nineteen
and then twenty six or twenty seven to get you three?
I mean you have to hear the nets, You have
to really like Ace Bailey or VJ. Edgecomb. I would assume.
So maybe that's just not the move, But is that
something that you could do?
Speaker 2: I mean maybe I just like, are the are the
I guess the sixers? Well, the sixers just aren't a
position where they're like, we're gonna we're gonna onboard three
rookies and just put them in the rotation rights.
Speaker 3: It's hard to find the nets.
Speaker 2: Really. They're really like unlucky in terms of like the
timing of of of like where the rest of the
league is relative to like their flexibility and assets, because
like there are other years probably where you could have
traded three firsts and moved up a ton because the
right team was you know, positioned way up in the
draft and just wasn't going to use that pick, or
it just I don't know, They're still in a very
good position, but it's just like it doesn't feel like
the twenty twenty five offseason is set up for them
to really optimize a lot of the flexibility they have.
Speaker 1: See. I'm also wondering if it's different if you're looking
at moving up in the draft. Okay, maybe that's more difficult,
but it just feels like there's going to be a
market for here's this first round pick, for taking on
this salary, and there those opportunities will be out there
and you are the only team that can facilitate them.
Speaker 3: Mmm.
Speaker 2: I know that's true. I guess being the only team
that can do anything is good timing. What if you
just like, do you think you could just trade some
of these picks for like more distant future firsts and
just like spread them out somehow, Like I.
Speaker 1: Is there like the that's the inverse of all, Well, no,
would you give the OKC does every year because they
have no roster spots? Basically right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like give up eight for I don't know,
something that might be in the top ten, like you
could use it without naming specifics. I'm trying to think
of a team that's like desperate to get into the
you know, the mid lottery that would make a lot
more distant pick.
Speaker 1: Would you do something like you would have to short
their future even more? But it's like would you consider
doing I mean, if they do this, they're I think
I think the Knicks are batshit crazy. But if the
Knicks were like, hey, here's this twenty thirty swap or
twenty thirty two swap. Are you given twenty six and
twenty seven for a swap that that's that far out?
Are you considering something like that?
Speaker 2: That's an interesting one something Yeah, something like that where
it's just like what how can we I think one
of the benefits of the Nets being where they are
is you can just kind of play the upside game
and just say, like, well, there's a low percentage chance
that this swap pays off at all, But what's the
number twenty six pick worth in a vacuum? Like it
just it doesn't have the upside So maybe that's that's
that's a better description of what I'm talking about, is
like kick it down the road and just sort of
hope that one of your longer term bets hits.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start entering. I'm just asking questions mode.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, because I don't have a lot else to
say about the Nets.
Speaker 1: Boston comes to you and says Jalen Brown for number eight,
that's it. That's the construction. If you're Brooklyn, are you
doing that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know I can. I think I can
trade Jalen Brown for more stuff down the road because.
Speaker 1: They're so interested. So would you even include let's looking
at picks this year, would you include more stuff than that?
I mean, if it was Cam Johnson at number eight
for Jalen Brown.
Speaker 2: I think I would don't. Don't you think you could
trade Jalen Brown for like two or three good firsts.
Speaker 1: At some point I want to say yes, but that
contract is iffy. And then from Boston's perspective, you could
look at it as like they're probably saving close to
thirty million twenty five million dollars in salary. So then
it's just like they're getting closer to getting off the
like the tax entirely from that point, closer, not actually
doing it, though. I should note if I was the Nets,
I'd probably do it, though, because I don't know that
number eight is spicy enough for me too, Because so
much of the appeal in that trade for Boston is
we're planning on reorienting ourselves completely around Tatum, and so
we're really slashing costs now and then hopefully this number
eight pick, we'll be ready, let's say two years from now,
when Tatum will have a year under his belt from
the Achilles injury. And that's what you do. I don't
if I'm Boston, I'm not doing that, But like the
financial realities, I'm wondering if like, oh, well, Cam Johnson
come in, like he could play, and I wonder if
they would think about it.
Speaker 3: You're just asking questions though, so.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking questions, would you do well? We already
tackled the Yiannis conversation for them, Would you do anything
for Chris tops Porzingis of Boston? Like that's an expiring contract?
What are you requiring to get off of him?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: If I'm the Nets, I think I probably ask for
I think I would probably be satisfied with like a.
Speaker 3: First, you know, three four years out.
Speaker 2: And I don't know that the Celtics would be willing
to pay that because they might be able to trade
him somewhere for like, you know, to get to get
like something back.
Speaker 3: Maybe Yeah, I I.
Speaker 2: Think in general, like any of the Boston guys, even Holiday,
who we talked about a little bit, like you should
be able to get a first with them because it's
worth so much to the Celtics to get off that money.
Because it's not just about the cost, it's about like
their flexibility and just like they can't build a roster
until they get cheaper.
Speaker 1: Would you do what if Memphis came calling, they're ready
to tear it down and they're all your first round
picks this year basically, and Cam Johnson for John Morant.
Speaker 2: Uh Man, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I think you probably do that if you're if you're Brooklyn.
If they had like something higher than eight, I would
hesitate a little more.
Speaker 3: But Marent's still on the well. Is Maurent still on
the fun Max? He is?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah he is. Yeah, he's extended now, but he's
on the fund man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not getting an extension for me.
Speaker 2: Uh at at least not at least not yet. I
think you do that. That's that's an upside bet. That's
just an that's another example of like it may not
work out. We're acknowledging that, but that's a pretty good
upside bet.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be very inspiring from emphasis end though, right.
Speaker 2: No, that would I would wonder like, well one, I'd
be like Scottie Pippen Jr.
Speaker 3: You're in charge now?
Speaker 2: Uh, that would pourtend a bigger tear down.
Speaker 3: Like you said, I.
Speaker 1: Don't really have anything else there like from them, I
think that they're best suited to well, I guess should
they be interested in Jonathan kaminga.
Speaker 2: Upside play? Same but we keep coming back to it.
I think I don't know what the number would need
to be where it's just like that's an objectively good decision.
It's got to be south of thirty million a year
to start. I think if you can get him in
the low twenties and the Warriors are just like, we're
not interested in that and they don't match, I think
that's that's worth it, because like there still is a
possibility that he is like a thirty million dollar player,
and and it's a change of scenery thing, it's a
change of role thing, it's a maturity thing that that's
a fair bet for a team like Brooklyn to make.
Speaker 1: Would you give up not your eighth pick, but would
you give up one of your other first round picks
to just ensure that he's then on your team? And
it's not we had to go in with a thirty
million dollars year offers, they wouldn't mat Let's say it's
twenty to twenty five, and you're probably either either Warriors
are getting that pick or you're using it as part
of a larger sign and trade construction that's getting them
more helped.
Speaker 2: Derek White, Yeah, for sure, because like you just I
think to keep costs down. Like, for sure, if you're
framing it as like you can make the thirty million
dollar offer sheet and trust that the Warriors don't match,
or you can just have a little serch and work
a sign and trade where you're just giving up a
pick that like realistically like you just don't have room
for all these guys. Anyway, I like that construction a
lot better the sign and trade version from Brooklyn's perspective.
Speaker 1: Do you feel any differently as if we sub in
Josh Giddy here because they don't necessarily have a point
even if they bring back cam Thomas, they don't have
a floor general of the future.
Speaker 2: I think I guess I feel differently in that. I
think I would want the number to be even lower
for Giddy because like, if you're talking upside play, I
just maybe we'll both be wrong. But I just don't
see him being like a high end starter on a
team that wins a lot, and so you just can't
pay him like that.
Speaker 1: Can I give you my two favorite which are neither
of those restricted free agents for the Nets to inflate
their market value on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even guess.
Speaker 1: Yes, please, Santi al Dabo would be one, Like it's
really just like kind of try to screw over Memphis there,
because I think that they would probably have to because
they have Jack Jr. And Zach Edy and then it's
a Brandon Clark Brandon Clark junior brand and Clark got
injured again, So I don't know what they I think
they're almost compel. I'm not saying twenty five million a year,
but like something around the mid level or more. The
other one, and this would be really funny, would be
Quentin Grimes.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's that number though, twenty twenty more than that.
Speaker 1: I'm honestly if he's if he's going to sign like
a two plus one, you could probably go like twenty
five or something. And then if you're the Sixers, it's
do we just let him go? I guess you could say, well,
we got off Caleb Martin as part of that deal,
so sure it would.
Speaker 2: You would have to really quickly, as the Sixers, talk
yourself into like, I mean, we just he's not that good,
like that was that was a fake breakout. You just
have to believe in the broader career sample, which maybe
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just asking questions, Grant, just asking question, that's.
Speaker 3: What we do here?
Speaker 1: Are you ready to take us out of here? Do
you have anything else on this team.
Speaker 2: No, I just other than to reiterate, the Nets are
gonna be a player here.
Speaker 1: They need to have like, there needs to be multiple
people in charge of answering messages and emails and phones
because this team is going to be inundated with requests.
Speaker 2: What's the is it Joe Dumars that had the picture
of him talking on two cell phones at once?
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because Sean Marks is going to have like eighty
different like phones and like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what we need is someone to like
add in several.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the meme of the guy on
the bike and he's playing like Pokemon go on like
eighty different Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that.
Speaker 2: Guy needs a job with Brooklyn for sure.
Speaker 1: They need to borrow his bicycles.
Speaker 2: How much caps, well, they don't want to burn too
much cap space on that. I think that counts as
a team as a roster charge.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, lots of talk about with the Net's going to
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