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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly

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video game show here at you First, I'm your host,

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Deil Muss, and I have with me the Wind and Waves.

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Taylor Field. How are you doing tonight, my friend.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing very very well. Happy to be here. It's

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been a long time since I've been just on side

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Quest with you. I think it was like the draft,

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all four of us, but just one on one.

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Speaker 1: Right, because I guess you came back to do the

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draft even though you were kind of on pat leave

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at that time. And then I guess you've been back

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for a few weeks now, but it just so happened

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that I had other people lined up for Travis for

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some resident evil stuff, a Lotti, this kind of thing

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and that thing. So it's good to have you back,

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for sure.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So today's episode is gonna be fun. We're gonna

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talk about the next generation of both Pokemon and Xbox

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funnily enough, two things kind of happening, similar announcement dates

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for these two things, and some games playing of course.

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But before that, I have a fun little topic for Taylor.

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I'm curious to throw at him here. I'll get to

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some plugs later, but we can just jump right into it. Taylor.

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I was, you know, looking around mosying around looking for

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any sort of news, fun news topics, and I discovered

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a Game Informer recently released a ranking of the Assassin's

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Creed series. So I wanted to get your opinion on

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this and see if you think they nailed it or

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if they fucked it up. So that's that's what I

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want to do for you here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just gonna say, Assassin' Queed two's got to

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be number one on the list.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we're gonna start from the bottom of the

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What do you think is that the bottom? I think

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there's fifteen things. Close your eyes for one second. Okay, yeah,

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there's fifteen games on this list. I don't know if

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that includes like, well, there's not really a big spin

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off something like the two d ones. I don't think

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they have those in here. There's fifteen games, though? Is

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there fifteen mainline games at this point?

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Speaker 2: There? Pull up a list here so I know how

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many there are? Over fourteen main titles.

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Speaker 1: Exactly fifty the classic over fourteen. The answer is fifteen, because.

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Speaker 2: I mean spinoff ones. You've got like three, four, five, six,

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seven spinoff games maybe eight?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, this is just the mainline series then yes, okay,

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that makes sense. So off the top of your head,

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what do you think? And of course this is not

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your ranking, this is what you think. I guess this

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is this is this is not just one person, this

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is the staff of Game Informer, I guess collectively. So

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who do you think, which game rather do you think

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would be bottom of the pack. Is there kind of

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a consensus worst Assassin's Creed in the series?

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Speaker 2: Oh, if I had to say the worst, I think

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it could. I think it could. It's either Syndicator unity.

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I think it could be unity. I think it had

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so much hate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's find out Assassin's Free three Liberation.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, fuck me, I didn't know what that was

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going to be in there too?

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 2: This is what is that came out? That came out

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on the Vita. So that was a spin off one

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of the main game, Assassin's Creed, and then it it

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brought over into Steam and then like and then they

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kind of maine a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Is it just a port and it's just a bad port?

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different trunk cas it's.

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Speaker 2: It's it's its own story. I'd say it's it's like

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a port of Assassin's Creed three, but they they gave

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it its own story, its own character and everything like that.

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I can't remember the girl's name that you play as

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in there, but okay, that's what that is.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So is this weird to include on a ranking

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in your opinion or is it?

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Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, I guess I think it's fair. I think

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it's earned it. It's keep yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then I guess number fourteen you're still gonna

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go with unity your syndicate.

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Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, I'll go fourteen unity.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's find out number fourteen? Is that three?

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked?

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Speaker 1: Really is just the base game?

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Speaker 2: That's the full base screen?

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Speaker 1: That bad? I know people like like two more, but

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Speaker 2: No. I don't think three is is outside of top ten.

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I don't think three belongs there. That's mumbo jumbo.

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Speaker 1: Is it a snowy environment? In three?

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Speaker 2: It's all seasons?

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Speaker 1: Oh cool?

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Speaker 2: Huh. This is when they really got into their whole

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Anvil game engine with just the mechanics of how things went.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, So again, you're gonna keep predicting Unity

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in Syndicate until they show up.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be Unity next. I'm thirteen.

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Speaker 1: They have Mirage?

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Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Kind of seems surprising to me. I feel like people

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really like Mirage.

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Speaker 2: Who's making this list? Who's the game before? Staff? Well? Who?

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Speaker 1: I actually? You know, I heard a lot of them

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talk on podcasts and stuff, and I genuinely think they're

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they know what they're talking about and outrageous. I use

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their calendar to find out what's coming out. So maybe

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I'll have to look for a new source. Maybe I

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shouldn't trust game.

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Speaker 2: I get the Mirage had a very small map, but

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that game was a total It was touching base on

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everything that Assassin's Creed kind of started as that foundation.

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I do not think that this deserves to be here,

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because after Odyssey and oh gosh, Valhalla, you're telling me

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Mirage is below those? Get out of here.

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Speaker 1: So do you think would you put where? Would you

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put three in Mirage?

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Speaker 2: I would put Mirage probably at least top five?

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Speaker 1: Whoa top five?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a I feel like it took the

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feeling and the aesthetic and the vibes of the original

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Assassin's Creed but modernized with its reason. I would because

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you're getting Parkour gay mechanics, which is awesome. The movement

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was so fluid and seamless, and then you're getting all

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that originality of Assassin's Creed. So a modern Assassin's Creed

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title like this and that smaller scale, it was just

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it was perfect. So I'd put like, Mirage is definitely

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in my top five.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, interesting, Okay, let's move along then, and now

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we have so unity and syndicate. Still not this knocked

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Speaker 2: This surprises me a little bit, but I can kind

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of see it. I'm not even that hot on Revelations.

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I think the only place that has in its hypeness

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is its conclusion to the Etsio trilogy, and I guess

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Desmond's story.

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Speaker 1: Apparently it's got a tower defense minigame. Was that fun?

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I like tower defense?

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Speaker 2: It was it was okay, yeah, the troops coming through

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and you're like setting up your towers and whatnot. That

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was it was fun that they incorporated something like that.

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Speaker 1: The article says it's terrible and interferes with the enjoyment

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of the rest of the game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, these people need to calm down. They were completely off.

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Speaker 1: This is the best thing ever. This is the worst

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thing ever. I feel like that.

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Speaker 2: I do not remember the tower defense being forced. I

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remember it was just something that was accessible that you

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could do, and I think I did it once and

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that was it. I was able to move on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, number eleven, we have Rogue.

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Speaker 2: I can see this. A lot of people aren't really

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familiar with Rogue, and Rogue is again another one that

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felt like a port of three because how did that work?

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so they dropped Assassin's Creed Unity on Xbox one and

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then they dropped Assassin's Creed Rogue on three sixty, so

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you got two new, brand new games. And yeah, so

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Rogue Rogue was a lot of fun because you got

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to play as a Templar, so an assassin that turned

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into a templar. So it was a pretty good story.

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Speaker 1: Interesting skipping to the top before we get there, is it?

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Is it Assassine Creed two at number one and then

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is Black Flag number two in the series or is

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there something else that's.

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Speaker 2: It's either gonna number Number one is definitely a C two,

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and then number two is either going to be Black Flag,

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Brotherhood or of the first Assassin's Creed. But I think

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it's gonna be Black Flagger or Brotherhood, one of those two.

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Speaker 1: And then you think, kind of like Odyssey in Valhalla

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maybe right below that they're gonna be about to get

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Speaker 2: I would think, so, yeah, Odysty and Valhalla are going

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to be stupidly high, and Origins will be in here somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So where are we at? Number ten? Is unity?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Unity off the board? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I put this, Yeah, I mean I put I put

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this a little bit higher because the introduction of four

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player co op into one like session was a fantastic experience.

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I remember running around the rooftops with my friends and

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we were doing like a mission to go and like

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assassinate the target. It was absolutely so much fun, and

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this was a game changer. No other Assassin's Creed has

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this ability and accustomizing your assassin. It was a full

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customization mode from the cowl to the chest pieces, the robes,

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the gaulllets, everything. It was just really great. But the

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no face glitch and stuff like that really freaked people out.

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Speaker 1: So a disaster at launch. According to Yes, yes, I

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gotta say this screenshot though, like I want to play this,

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like this looks this setting looks great.

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Speaker 2: Oh, fantastic game, great game.

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Speaker 1: All right. Number nine we have the original Assassin's.

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Speaker 2: Creed higher than I thought, but you know that's that's

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fair ball. Yeah, it has it's not bad. I don't

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know if it's aged the greatest, but it does still

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And number eight is where we have shadows. Oh,

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I kind of forgot about we're probably about shadows too new.

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Speaker 2: I thought that'd be a little higher, but I think

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a lot of people were. There was excitement. It's transitioned

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into uh not hypeness anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it kind of it vanished pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool, Yes it did. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: Number seven is where we have origins.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that seems about right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we still haven't seen uh syndicate, would you pretty

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to be at the bottom.

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Speaker 2: I was more inclined that unity would kind of be

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up there. I thought Syndicate because a lot of people

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weren't too hot on Syndicate. But I'm happy with where

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it's going here, all right.

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Speaker 1: Number six, we've got Valhalla.

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Speaker 2: It's too high, man, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be too low. Like, I know you

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don't like that game, but I feel like most fans

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really maybe not most two Maybe it's not Assassin's Creed fans.

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it because it's more open world, the sky rimy kind

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of game.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, pretty much?

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Speaker 1: Okay, And then what do you think is number five?

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Speaker 1: So Odyssey, we haven't seen.

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Speaker 2: Would you say, mmm, it's gonna be I'm gonna go

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I'm gonna say it's Brotherhood.

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Speaker 1: Brotherhood's next number five is Assassin's Creed two.

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Speaker 2: Get that fuck out. This is invalid. This, this is invalid, invalid.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this series, but that seems really weird.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure if you were to go on Metacritic,

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Assassin's Creed Too is the highest rated Assassin's Creed. Like

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that's that's the be all and all of games that

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at CEO character was like, I remember that was a

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Game of the Year contender, which it lost to Dishonored.

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I believe in that Game of the Year that was

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back during the Spike Game of the Year of the awards.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I mean Dishonored didn't come out in two

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thousand and nine, so I don't think that quite lines up.

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Speaker 2: But no, it was definitely a Dishonored or maybe maybe

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maybe it could have been a Bout of Shock. Maybe

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I can't remember, but I know that, like this is

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this is the Bee's knees of Assassin's Creed games. The

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fact that they were putting it at this right.

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Speaker 1: Kind of crazy. This is gonna have like Odyssey at

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number one. That's the vibe.

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Speaker 2: I know, we're we're we're closing off, closing ship. See

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a number one.

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Speaker 1: I'd take brother the black flag I was gonna say.

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Speaker 2: Black Flag at number one. I could definitely see that,

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and I mean my bias pick would be Brotherhood at

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number one. But all right, let's see what four is

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gonna be? Something ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Black Flag.

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Speaker 2: That's not fair, that's not right, Like, yeah, what you.

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Speaker 1: Thought would be kind of maybe one and two are

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down here at four and five.

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Speaker 2: Two should definitely be higher than Black Flag, but black

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Flag easily should i'd say be top three. That game

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was a fantastic story. This the naval combat and the

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open ocean and everything with the whale hunting and just

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the assassin's story. It was such a change of pace

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what they did. So I just can't believe this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to, you know, make you

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so aggravated tonight. I thought this would be a fun time,

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but it turns out to be a bit of torture

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for you, unfortunately. Let's find out number three here is.

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Speaker 2: Odyssey absolutely unacceptable. There's no way Odyssey trump's over Assassin's

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Creed two and Black Flag That is a complete hocus pocus.

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Speaker 1: So is Syndicate and Brotherhood that we haven't seen yet.

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Speaker 2: Right the yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Number two we have syndicate, which means number one is Brotherhood.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, Brotherhood is definitely I'm pretty sure. I said

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in the past my favorite Assassin's Creed game I love too.

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I think two is amazing with Brotherhood. Just look at

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that picture with Brotherhood. You get that seal back and

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you get your assassins that you get to have fight

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with you too. That was like, do you get you

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can call them into combat so they're fighting with you.

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Speaker 1: I definitely want these people backing me up.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. So I think Assassin's Creed Brotherhood

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was a wonderful story. I remember the trailer came out

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and it was just the bees and these syndicate being here.

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I would have liked it, not as number two still

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in this higher realm, but it does not beat Assassin's

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Creed two by any means, or does it beat Black Flag.

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That's that's bonkers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say this list seems pretty whack to me.

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I'm not gonna lie as someone who's not as nearly

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as invested. What would you give this ranking? On a

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scale of one to ten.

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Speaker 2: Scale one to ten, I give it an easy one,

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being the bo one. I give it one point because

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of where Brotherhood is at number one. I respect that.

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That's that's a very biased pick, i'd say, But some

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of these, no, this is not I just disagree with

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many of these. Yes here where was Origins?

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Speaker 1: By the way, origins?

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Speaker 2: Okn that was number seven?

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Speaker 1: Okay, kind of right under val how.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal.

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Speaker 1: Well, nice try game Informer. You've failed this time, but

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maybe next time you'll get it right. Let's roll right

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into games. We've been playing? Uh, Taylor taken Away? What

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have you been playing? Because I think for me only

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you know Resne will Roque in which I beat and

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we did that review. Me and Travis haven't played a

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little bit more Spider Man. But still I'm waiting on

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my Spider Man thoughts. Still I finished that game, which

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is taking a long time. But yeah, what are you well?

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Speaker 2: I have been deep diving into Pokemon fire red Switch. Yes,

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this is one that I didn't I didn't play it

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back in the game boy days because that was the

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time when I was playing Sapphire. So the two kind

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of I believe they weren't released the same year, but

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they were released within a close proximity because you can

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trade between the two games, So I remember my cousin

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had fire Red, I had Sapphire, and so we were

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trading and battling with each other to add more to

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our poked x's and whatnot. So that was that was

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a lot of fun. But yeah, the game is so

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far an absolute delight. I don't know if I've ever

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fully played through like the Canto Region Adventure, because I

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had Pokemon Blue back in the day for Game Boy Color,

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but the save didn't work, so I'd always get like

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one save and then it would crap out. After Westart

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what else was there? Though? After that it was just

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Sapphire and then Heart Gold. Heart Gold was fun, So

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I guess that's actually not I have to prodact my

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statement of not having a Canto Adventure because Heart Gold

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and sil Silver you go through the Joto Region all

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that Gen two stuff, and then after you complete the

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league you get to travel to Canto and do the

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whole Canto region, which was super cool. It was very cool. Yeah.

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So and when you get there, all the gyms and

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all the trainers are higher levels, like the seventy level

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to eighty level range. So by the time you get

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your Pokemon up to fifty sixty beating Jodo and you

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get to Canto, It's like, okay, this is like the

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next tier. It's like the harder dungeons and Zelda kind

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of yeah. So that was a good time. So that's

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probably my only play through with Canto, and I played

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all the other ones in different regions, but going through

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it here has been a lot of fun. This has

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been the odd time too. Or I pass the controller

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of Madison and I'll tend to the kids or do something,

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and then she'll do some of the battles. But we've

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done the fourth gym now out of eight, and what

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my team consists of Garrettos, War Turtle, Growl Lith, Pikachu, God,

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what's the other one that I got? What am I forgetting? Oh? Pigeoto,

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Jesus Criky, yeah, Pigioto. And then I've got Paras in

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there too because I need my cutboy cut those trees

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out of the way for me. But as soon as

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I got Magic Carp, I was like, Okay, we're gonna

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get this guy leveled up pretty quick. And he's nice.

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I mean so far. My my roster that I mainly

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use with Pikachu, War Turtle, giry Dose and Pigeota are

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all around like the thirty thirty two level, but Pigeota

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is my main my main guy. Once he gets to Pigeot,

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I'm just I'm gonna be riding that high for as

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long as I can. Yeah, yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really excited to see that those were

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coming to Switch Online. I didn't catch that they were out. Now,

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that's that's pretty awesome, because yeah, that's definitely an era

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of Pokemon I've not played. I mean, I have not

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played a ton of the series, and I've always kind

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of been a little disappointed with the availability of Pokemon

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games on Switch Online service. Like they have a lot

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of the spinoffs. They have your stadiums and coliseums, they

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have the original snap which are all cool things and

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great things to have on there, but in terms of

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like the mainline titles, there's really not a lot on there,

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and I think part a lot of those were on

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like you know DS or three DS and things like that,

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which obviously those are not gonna make it onto the

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the Switch as as things are, but I yeah, I'm

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really happy to see these ones on there because I

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haven't played these games before, and it seems like a

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good way to play the OG games, but in just

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a more like a lot more quality of life, better graphics,

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more actually having like the color graphics and stuff. So

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I'm starting to check this out at some point.

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Speaker 2: Playing on the TV is it's really nice. It's it's beautiful,

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but it's definitely like it's squared off. This has been

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a few times where I've just been playing on handheld

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on my switch screen and it's like, this is just gorgeous.

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Oh my god, it's beautiful. But I'm really happy with

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a couple of the things that they've done. So and

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of course i haven't beaten the league, but we're in

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the the Game Boy version. Uh you get the events

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tickets to get I think it was the Oxis, Lugia,

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and ho and so now they've just added those and

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once you beat the league, you get the tickets to

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go get those three legendaries, which is really nice. And

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then the people were looking into it and found that

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there was some stuff for Pokemon, Ruby and Sapphire in there,

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so people are speculating that we're gonna we're gonna get

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those next on the Switch.

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Speaker 1: They have like that full on remakeup. They released a

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couple of years back. Yeah, Alpha would take sales aways

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and they wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, those haven't I haven't even seen those

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available in the store anymore. And I've got Alpha Sapphire.

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I love that it's got so much extra like Doda

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heads in there. But if they drop an original Pokemon

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Sapphire on the store, I'm going to be playing that

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for sure. That would be so much fun. But I'm

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just very very happy, And this is a big, big

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kicker for me, was the fact that they are putting

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Pokemon Bank or sorry, poke One Home connections to tie

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in with the Pokemon Fire Red Leaf Green. I think

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that's so wonderful, these last games being able to you know,

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carry over your characters. So I'm a big advocate for

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doing that because, as I said, Pokemon Sapphire is what

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I played back in the day. That was where I

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was getting my jam and I got all my guys,

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my Kyogar, my favorite Pride and Joy Kyogar, and a

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whole bunch of my other guys like my Septile and whatnot.

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That I poured it over from game Boy onto the

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DS and then into the Nintendo three DS and then

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so forth and so forth, and I mean these are

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guys that I've played with on the GameCube and what

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not to like, it's just it's the ultimate what is

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it called Tamagotchi's It's like the ultimate Tamagatchi just carrying

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these pets with you. I've had him since two thousand

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and five. I mean that's like, what are we to

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twenty one years? No frickin' way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how does that work? Is? And this is probably

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a really stupid question, but just how out of Pokemon

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like do you have? Is there a website? Is it

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like an app on your phone? Is it both? Like

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how do you kind of move these things around between?

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Speaker 2: So? Yeah, before it was definitely I mean it was apps,

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and a lot of the apps you can't get anymore,

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like the Pokemon Bank you can't download on your DS anymore.

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But if you have it downloaded, then you've got it downloaded.

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But I mean the main thing, like I don't know

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if you can see it, but you got the app

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Pokemon Home on there, which is nice. And I was

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kind of leery about the whole idea of putting my

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Pokemon in here, but I wanted to keep them concurrent,

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and so I've been able to put some of them

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into Scarlett, I think is the one that I have.

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And so it's cool to have your og two D

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Pokemon and just to transfer them over into the three

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D aspect and you can see them and this modern style,

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like it's just it's weird. I don't know how. My

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my brain can't comprehend it almost. It's just it's crazy

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to kind of interpret that. Let's see, why do I

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have that there? But I mean you can see maybe

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you can see kind of.

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Speaker 1: Your roster of guys like snap or not. Sorry go,

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can you just scroll through all you guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's it, Like this this guy I transferred

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from Pokemon Ghost. So that's the cool thing too. Pokemon

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Go Pokemon can be transferred into here and then I

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think you can put them into like the main game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool. That's pretty miraculous, I guess. I

469
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mean it's all really think. They just kind of have

470
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the same stats. They don't change. But you'd think that

471
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like even balance wise, it would be really hard to

472
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balance from you know, twenty year old games to now.

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Speaker 2: But oh, for sure, it just works like and it's

474
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nice too, because I mean, there's my ray Quasa and

475
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if you scroll down then it says, oh, first met

476
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in the Holen region twenty eleven. That's when I met him.

477
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But that's cool, that's that twenty eleven isn't as far

478
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back as it is when I got him. Twenty eleven

479
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is when it started. Actually, I think dating it when

480
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I transferred it to the game, So I would have

481
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transferred that over to the DS version, I'm pretty sure,

482
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and then it would have started to because from the

483
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DS to Game Boy, I'm pretty sure it was. It

484
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was it was game to game because you you migrate them,

485
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and then after that it was putting them into the

486
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Pokemon Bank, which was an app on the DS, and

487
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so then you could put another Pokemon games and just

488
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be like moving them around off of one handheld, whereas

489
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before you always needed too and so now it's just yeah,

490
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it's all on your phone, so it's it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. I Yeah, like I said, I'm excited

492
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to jump into those fire right or leaf Green? What

493
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which version should I do? Is there like a certain

494
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what's the big deal between the two differences?

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Speaker 2: Ah? What it always comes down the Pokemon exclusives, right.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I should just look at that list

497
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to make sure I picked the right one.

498
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Speaker 2: But that's that's exactly it. And I'm glad because I

499
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think Growleth oh I did, Growth was not okay. So

500
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leaf Green includes san Shrew, Volpis, Bell Sprout, Slow Pokes,

501
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starr U, Magmar, and Pincer, and then fire Red has Ekins, Audish, Growleth, Side,

502
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duck Shelder, Cyther, and Electopus. So for me, the big.

503
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Speaker 1: Kickers, that's tough.

504
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Speaker 2: That is tough, both of those Growth and Cyther. Grawleath

505
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is one of my favorites, one of my favorites, but

506
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Cyther is another guy I'm hunting for from my team,

507
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at least until I get h I figure out getting

508
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an Alcazam, because you got to do the trades, right, Cadabra,

509
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a choke graveler, uh, and the fourth not gas Hunter.

510
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You got to trade those four dudes to get them

511
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evolved through trades.

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Speaker 1: So oh interesting, just like back in.

513
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Speaker 2: The olden days.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah, God, so many extra steps to get mm hmm exciting.

515
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Anything else in the what we've been playing section you

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wanted to highlight.

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Speaker 2: This is more like a month than a half to

518
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two months ago. But I think I'm just gonna shut

519
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:05,799
it out just for the heck of it. Because me

520
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and Travis did try out less trials and we did

521
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the tried some of the new stuff. We didn't get

522
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around the trying against the new DLC with the Evil

523
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Lady Chick in there, which I want to try. But

524
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what we did do was we did the trials where

525
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you got to invade other people's trials and that was

526
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so much fun. It was really cool. So there's a

527
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group of people that are doing their thing like we

528
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were doing, playing the game, trying to do their missions,

529
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and then you know how those copycats come out and

530
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you can't tell if it's a person or not. So

531
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you play as those and you get a limited timeframe

532
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of like two minutes in the round. Then you got

533
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to go and leave and then come back after you recharge.

534
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So you go in there and you have a different

535
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set of perks, a different set of fighting things and

536
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tools at your disposal, but you got to pretend. It's

537
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,440
so much fun. You got to pretend to be one

538
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of them, and then you got to kill them. And

539
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:58,000
so your teammates can watch the cameras and guide you'd like, Oh,

540
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there's a player over here as a player here, and

541
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it's an absolute hell of a time. Me and Travis

542
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had a lot of fun with it. Nice.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, I'm I didn't realize that was an

544
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update that was at it. I thought it was just

545
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more villains and stuff.

546
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Speaker 2: So that's it. They made some change, big strides in that

547
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game for DLC so far.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, let's uh, let's definitely plan a session

549
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to play play some more of that soon. I want

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to get back in there back and do some trials.

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But how about with that we take our first break

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for anyone who you know here for more pokemon chat.

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We will go get right back to Pokemon in a minute.

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gonna shout out our discord, which is always fun to join,

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especially because Taylor just gave it a makeover. He puts

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there's an exclusive channel in there where uh yeah, you

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to our first ad break and we'll be right back. Okay,

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we are back, and we're gonna go right back to

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the realm of Pokemon because there was a Pokemon Presents.

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This is a couple of weeks ago now, but I

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had to wait. You know, I would not subject Travis

585
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to talk about the next generation of Pokemon. But that's

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why I got you here, Taylor. So we already talked

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about the fire red leaf green thing that was part

588
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of the Pokemon Presents. Of course, the big thing is

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the next generation. Was there anything else from that present

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though that stood out to you? Anything noteworthy?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I mean the Champions has me really

592
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really excited. I think that's probably the only so take

593
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,640
out the Gym League's the elite for the traveling around

594
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,720
the catching Pokemon. We're talking just battles, trainer battles only,

595
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:39,480
so we're dealing with handheld and on switch, which is

596
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really really awesome. And now it looks like not all

597
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Pokemon are going to be available to bring in. But

598
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the big factory is okay. Like I was talking about

599
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earlier with Sapphire, my dudes that I have in the

600
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og there that are sitting in my Pokemon home, I

601
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:53,799
can bring them into Champions and I can use them

602
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,160
in my team, and I can fight with So that's

603
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basically so that's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of just like it's almost is that like almost

605
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like a live service version of Pokemon if you just

606
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:02,240
want to do battles, that's kind of the place to go.

607
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks like it's it's going to be the

608
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place to place to be. Yeah, so I think that

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it comes out soon. I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so already it doesn't already exist. If you want

611
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to just battle, now, is there like a different game that.

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Speaker 2: You would do? You can just battle in the main game, Like,

613
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that's just Yeah. So Football Champions has coming out Switch

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in April twenty twenty six. Uh yeah, so that's perfect.

615
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Oh my goodness, it's exciting.

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Speaker 1: Uh and okay, I guess we can jump into winds

617
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and wind and waves wins, wind and Waves. I guess

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sure that makes the most sense. The next generation? Which generation?

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Are we on?

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Speaker 2: A ten?

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Speaker 1: Eleven?

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Speaker 2: I want to say we're eleven, gents, ten? Uh no,

623
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we're at ten. Now we're at ten.

624
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Speaker 1: Down to ten. That's a big deal. Double just finally, yes,

625
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this is a this is a game coming out of course,

626
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:09,119
two games I guess coming out next year twenty twenty seven.

627
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,240
Switch to only, and I feel like that my one

628
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,279
of my first impressions here. So many times whenever I

629
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see a Pokemon trailer, I'm like, man, this game looks

630
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,920
like ass or it has an horrendous frame rate. I

631
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,200
still have the Patriot producers up. I actualized horrendous frame rate.

632
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,160
It just looks bad, looks old, looks like they just

633
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200
you know, are cranking it out and it's still gonna

634
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sell a bunch of copies. They don't need to make

635
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it look good. But I think I was blown away

636
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by how good this game looks. And it looked like

637
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a lot of in engine stuff too. Frame rate looked

638
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,880
pretty solid, which you know, even with YouTube compression sometimes

639
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that just janks things out. But this actually looked pretty good.

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The water and like going underwater and stuff. Everything looked gorgeous.

641
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The environments. I was like, damn, I was impressed. And

642
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you know, it's not like it's like Horizon zero down

643
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levels of visual fidelity or something, but you know, as

644
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far as like a Nintendo game switch game, you know,

645
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I was. I was pretty impressed. I think it looked

646
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really good just straight up visually and in terms of

647
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like just the frame rate. Now, of course this is

648
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like the earliest teaser trailer, so I'm sure when we're

649
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getting more trailers in the future, maybe some things will

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not look so good around the edges. But it sounds

651
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:17,039
like they're really pushing the Switch to to its limits,

652
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I gets or maybe not, maybe that's not quite true,

653
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,920
but at least they're not being held back by what

654
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the Switch one was in terms of performance and stuff

655
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like we saw with Scarlet and Violet, even though that

656
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was years after the Switch originally came out. So yeah,

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that was my That was my first impression is that

658
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I was quite impressed, which is a rare thing for Pokemon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was really really shocked because the

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first thing I was looking at, sorry, Madison was doing

661
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something I was not expecting the beefs. The first thing

662
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I was looking at was how's this grass and this

663
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,960
foliage the tree is gonna look because the last one,

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Scarlet and Violet, it was just garbage. That was I

665
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was running around that that region. I was thinking, man,

666
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,680
this grass looks terrible. It's so two dimensional, which is

667
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,279
weird in a three dimensional game at this at this point,

668
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,359
so I was hoping for better and I feel like

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we got it in this trailer, because in this what

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they showed is the way the world looks beautiful, going

671
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:18,960
under the water, above the water and just seeing all this,

672
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,759
the the landscape and everything. It looks like this is

673
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:23,759
actually something that I've been I've been waiting for in

674
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,599
a Pokemon game, and I haven't really looked at Legends

675
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,960
too much, I know, z A, I haven't really looked

676
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,480
at any gameplay to necessarily see what it looks like.

677
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I'm assuming it's probably much better than Scarlet and Violet,

678
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:37,839
but uh.

679
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess in terms of like just grass,

680
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there's not a lot of grass in the game.

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Speaker 2: So now you're going, that's right. Yeah. But other than that,

682
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I am I really am looking forward to to this game,

683
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and I think my excitement is already there a lot

684
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,839
higher than it was for Scarlet and Violet. When I

685
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:59,000
play Scarlet and Violet, I feel overwhelmed. And it's funny

686
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:04,160
because when I when I compare that to fire Red

687
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Fire Red, it's just like I'm just I'm craving it.

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00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:08,680
I want to go play it right now, Like every

689
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,240
time I have a little bit of spare time to

690
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just hop on there and play it and just keep

691
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,480
doing the game, like, it's so much fun and it's

692
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such a different feeling than playing Scarlet and Violet. Scarlet

693
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and Violet doesn't have that for me, and it's weird

694
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,720
because it's the same thing. It's just separated by generations,

695
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:27,720
and obviously one's a little bit more visually appealing fire

696
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:31,920
Red than the other. But yeah, it's I'm hoping that

697
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and so far, I feel it a little bit ignited

698
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inside of me that this new one, win in Waves

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is gonna be kind of establishing that foundation to kind

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of get me excited and want to pull me in.

701
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like mechanically, it's hard to

702
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,079
know too much about what's new or fresher. And I'm

703
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:49,720
sure there's gonna be a new like mega evolution equivalent thing.

704
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,079
There's always something like that. It low informs all these

705
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:54,319
crazy things in these new games. We don't really know

706
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,440
that many details at this point, but like the actual

707
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,000
gameplay is going to look like we don't even really

708
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,880
know if it's going to be the more led type,

709
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,039
like not so much turn based, or if this is

710
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:05,839
gonna be the classic turn I assume it's gonna be

711
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,839
more turn based and they'll keep the Legends thing as

712
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,360
like a separate like spin off series now where that's

713
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,000
more like real time stuff. But we don't really know

714
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:16,159
for sure. We see like one shot or two of

715
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,880
the trainer catching a Pokemon or something, but like we

716
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,760
don't really know for sure. But yeah, in terms of

717
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,239
the setting, I love it, kind of like a tropical

718
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,840
island and all that kind of stuff, And I feel

719
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,159
like going underwater, Like, is there another Pokemon game where

720
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,559
you like, you're always on water, You're always swimming around

721
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:33,280
getting water types, but I feel like you don't really

722
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,639
go underwater very often. So that seemed like a new

723
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,679
kind of thing, Like, I I, is there another game

724
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,159
where you can go under underwater, get put on some

725
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:41,960
scoopy gear and.

726
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: Just crap you. So in Pokemon Sapphire you could learn

727
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,079
the HM dive and so you can actually go underwater

728
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,639
and explore caverns and do underwater things and whatnot. So

729
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,920
there is definitely a three D.

730
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Game like this.

731
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: Ah, I don't recall. I don't think I've s seen it. No,

732
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,239
that's cool.

733
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only thing I can think of is in

734
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,280
New Pokemon Snap, there's obviously some water levels where you're

735
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,800
like and you're under submerged going around doing your stuff.

736
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,599
But obviously that's a very different kind of thing. So

737
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,760
are you excited uh for that? And like, I guess

738
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,320
the wind's part too, Like do you think are we

739
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,239
going to go into like some sky island stuff too?

740
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Is it gonna be kind of like Zelda in that way?

741
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,880
Like what is the The waves make sense if we're

742
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,920
going underwater and doing stuff, but what does the wind?

743
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:26,400
Where's the wind come into it?

744
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I mean it's funny you mentioned Zelda because

745
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:32,079
I feel like wind way here was just screaming when

746
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,039
I was looking at this game a little bit, just

747
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,840
the ocean and and all that kind of stuff. So no,

748
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,960
where does the wind come into this? Gosh, I think

749
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,519
you're just if you're like.

750
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,519
Speaker 1: A glider, you can fly around the island probably or

751
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:45,000
something like that.

752
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:46,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.

753
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, or I think like legends archs, I think.

754
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know, but I know when you look.

755
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,559
Speaker 1: At you know, not pterodactyls, whatever, aerodactyls, whatever's going on

756
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:56,000
in that game.

757
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: When you look at the two hms that you got,

758
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,599
you got Surf and you got Fly and those are

759
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,960
two like gen one HM moves along with cut and

760
00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:05,039
Strength and whatnot. But I mean cut and Strength, you

761
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:06,920
can't make a game off of that. You can make

762
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,400
a game off of Fly, and you can make a

763
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,000
game off of Surf. So when you look at this

764
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,320
and you just got a lot more ocean exploration with

765
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:14,599
you know, your surf hm, and you got the ability

766
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,719
to get on your Pokemon and fly in the sky

767
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,199
with Fly, like, I think that's that's pretty cool. I

768
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:25,119
also think that this game is maybe trying to challenge

769
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:28,039
certain things in regards to Power World and what it's

770
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:32,960
presenting in itself. And maybe I'm just reading rifle they're

771
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,880
gonna go full military and hear weaponized. No. I just

772
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,039
think that there's certain things that Power World kind of

773
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:42,480
introduced that might have put Nintendo game Freak on their

774
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,079
toes a little bit. So I think they probably are

775
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:49,320
gonna they're sprucing up a little bit of the mechanics

776
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000
in this game a little bit more to kind of

777
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,119
get people pumped.

778
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like the locomotion seems to

779
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,639
be a focus of a lot of the recent games,

780
00:36:57,679 --> 00:36:59,599
Like I do remember that being a thing in Archaus

781
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,960
where you could ride creatures, some of them flying, other

782
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,280
ones just like you know, cruise around on an Arc

783
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,320
nine or whatever. And then I feel like, you know,

784
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,519
obviously in Scarlet and Violet, that's where that was like

785
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:12,280
the motorbike Pokemon.

786
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: Right where you can.

787
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: Which was goofy, but like that was you know, a

788
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:19,920
key selling feature of like the locomotion of the game.

789
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,400
And so I feel like, yeah, adding something to make

790
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,079
just cruising ound on the water or flying around that

791
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:29,440
seems like the next natural step in terms of the

792
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,400
locomotion side of things. So it seems like a good

793
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,440
a good way to go. We've got we saw a

794
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,760
lot of familiar faces, of course from all the generations,

795
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,719
a lot of familiar Pokemon. I think the only three

796
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,679
new ones we have are the starters, Is that right?

797
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,599
Did you see any other new guys in there?

798
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,039
Speaker 2: No, those three starters were the only ones that I

799
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:46,880
saw that were new.

800
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got Brout Brout Brout probably it's like

801
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,519
a grass owl type. We've got Palm Bond, who's like

802
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:03,639
a fire Chihuahua looking thing. We got Gequa, who's like

803
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:07,079
a water salamander. I feel like you're you're a growl

804
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,519
with guy, So are you gonna go for palmbom thing

805
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,360
is it's like another fire dog thing.

806
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, here, I I've got a I'm not going

807
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:21,000
palm bomb. I've got a problem though with these starters.

808
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: So I feel like we've seen all of these Pokemon before.

809
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,880
That was my first impression because I feel like was

810
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,960
pretty much just like Greninja and Brout, Like, isn't there

811
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,880
already a grass Owl?

812
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you got him right here, grass Owl.

813
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: And he's a very similar name too.

814
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: Yes, Rowlet. And then we've got Fennekin. So we've got

815
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,280
a fire I mean more like a fox versus a dog.

816
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,199
Speaker 1: A starter.

817
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,599
Speaker 2: These are starters. Yeah, and then obviously Somble, which I'd

818
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,880
relate much more to Gequa, because I mean it's a

819
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,440
water lizard, right, I mean yeah, I thought.

820
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,679
Speaker 1: Ge to me looked a little bit more. What what is

821
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,840
Greninja's first form?

822
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,079
Speaker 2: Uh, Froaky the frog Froky.

823
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: I guess he doesn't really look like Froky, but he

824
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:08,440
looks more like Grening.

825
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:14,679
Speaker 2: E Yes he does. Yeah. So I mean I'm.

826
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: Pretty uninspired for the starters, I will say, but yeah,

827
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,159
at this point, Pokemon, we recycle a lot of ideas,

828
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:25,199
but these ones didn't really excite me personally.

829
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,119
Speaker 2: No, I mean everyone's freaking out about pombon a lot

830
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:31,760
in what way A good way or bad way? A

831
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,360
good way, a good way. Personally, I think the Angry

832
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,079
the Angry Birds Bird. I'm kind of enjoying it. But

833
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:41,960
I I think Gekua might be my go to, and

834
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,119
I don't often go with water starters. With fire Red,

835
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,199
I went with Squirtle because I wanted to do something

836
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,239
very different my heart. I wanted to do Charmander and

837
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,920
I I've done grass types a few times because I

838
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:02,039
did Treaco, I did Snivey I did. I've done Rollt

839
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,880
I can't remember the other guy's name, A turt Twig

840
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,400
I've done. I've done a few. I've done a few

841
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,960
water types. Aside from Frokie, I've never really focused on

842
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,280
so but this Gequa seems to be kind of like

843
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,440
up my alley one of my friends that was talking

844
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,079
about how palm bond that that Maine on the dog

845
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:23,840
is just going to be a giant shield of some

846
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,119
kind in its final form.

847
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: I guess it does kind of look like the sword

848
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,840
and shield like the shield.

849
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: Yes absolutely name by the way, Oh, like zach Za

850
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,840
Khana or something like that I can't I can't remember.

851
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I I I feel like I'm normally a

852
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:45,079
grass type kind of guy, rarely fire type. But I

853
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:46,760
think when I did Emerald, I think I went with

854
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,760
the fire guy there recently.

855
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, tor Chik, Yeah, yeah, I think I went.

856
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: Which was kind of against type for me, but I'm like,

857
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,199
I want to switch it up here, like the same

858
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,079
reason why you kind of want with Squirtle. And then

859
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,400
I didn't played the last generation Scarlet Violet, but Solble

860
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:05,639
was only of the starters that I liked at all,

861
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:09,159
and so second generation in a row where I'm like, Okay, Gekua,

862
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,639
you know, not the most inspired design by any means,

863
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:13,719
but uh, the one that called out to me the

864
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,760
most because Brout is too roality like that, I'm that's

865
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,559
the least kind of creative one. I think, so kind

866
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,559
of unexciting for me there, But Gekquo was maybe the

867
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,599
most interesting looking one, So I think I would go.

868
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,000
I don't know if i'll get this game this generation,

869
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,039
to be honest, maybe ten years from now, but I

870
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:31,880
feel like if I were to get any go with

871
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,039
any of them, i'd probably go Gekua water Salamander. Yeah,

872
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,000
that's I can't really picture I'm turning into anything other

873
00:41:41,039 --> 00:41:43,400
than just looking like gre Ninja, which you know I

874
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239
do love gre Ninja, so that works out well.

875
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,079
Speaker 2: This is a good little picture here showing all the starters. Actually,

876
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,400
oh yeah, and Ralet doesn't even feel like two generations ago.

877
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:56,679
I keep I forget about, like I think grout Grokey

878
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,039
is the monkey's name, and then I can't remember the

879
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,239
hat's name there, goodness me, wasn't it like.

880
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know, I can't remember either. Fire ones

881
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:11,920
have the most variety for the most part.

882
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: They do. I mean, yeah, because you got the chicken,

883
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,039
you got the monkey, the pig, the fox, the cat,

884
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,360
the bunny, the little dinosaur not the dog, and then

885
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,159
the lizard and then oh what is uh A lot

886
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:24,639
of a.

887
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,519
Speaker 1: Lot of salamondary looking things for the water types.

888
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I never like Mudkip that much. Wow, Septile

889
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,480
and blaze kin Man. Blaze Kin was just so sick.

890
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,159
It was one of my favorite Gen two.

891
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:41,039
Speaker 1: They were cooking. I love the designs of all three

892
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:42,679
Gentoo they were they.

893
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Just look so different from the rest.

894
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: Always like the fire hair has always been the most

895
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,280
frantic look ever.

896
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:53,519
Speaker 2: He's the only one with the closed eyes too of

897
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:54,320
everyone else.

898
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, and then I've always always loved

899
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,920
turt Wig, always thought he was great. Generation after that,

900
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,920
I think it is a bunch of snoozers and the

901
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,199
generation and the generation after that, and then I think

902
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,960
I think they were kind of cooking there. They were

903
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,599
grooky or grooky whatever his name is.

904
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 2: Did you ever see gren Ninja's like extra his fourth form?

905
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:21,639
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, but I want to.

906
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: So this is it's not meg evolution, but this is

907
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
when him and Ash would sink and he just looks

908
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,159
so fucking sick. The sure king goes on his back

909
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,880
and then he gets like the red mark on his head.

910
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: That is pretty cool.

911
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:38,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's just which is beautiful, beautiful Ashes Greninja.

912
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Just that's sweet because is a starter, like yeah, begins

913
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,119
as a starter.

914
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: Right, yes, yeah?

915
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: Uh yeah? Those so those are those are the three

916
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,599
we didn't see any other newbies. So yeah, if you

917
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:54,039
had to pick today, which one would you pick? If

918
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:58,000
you had the game right now, get going with water

919
00:43:58,039 --> 00:43:58,559
as well.

920
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: Going with water, then second twould be the bird, third

921
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,480
would be the dog.

922
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm and which version when wind or wave without obviously

923
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:10,119
seeing which Pokemon are actually going. Would you go right off?

924
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:12,679
Speaker 2: I'm going wave, wave right off the hop you're more

925
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,119
wave guy. Yeah hmm.

926
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,039
Speaker 1: I feel like that is a bit more fun. But

927
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,239
we still don't really know what the wind really means.

928
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: I think no idea. I mean, wave could include ten,

929
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:25,880
like you could have Rick Quasi flying around for all

930
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,559
I know, and the Oxus everything in the sky like

931
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:29,920
you know what I'm there. But I mean, if they

932
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,920
throw a kyogar and wave, that's just going to steal

933
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,800
the deal even more. Put a kyogar in there, please please,

934
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,400
I beg you.

935
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? Uh? What were my other notes? I

936
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,000
mean I already kind of mentioned the visuals, but I

937
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,079
thought the lighting was really great in here as well.

938
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:47,079
I feel like I'm used to Pokemon games not really

939
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:51,039
having lighting. It's just like one static light source and

940
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:53,239
everything kind of as like the exact same shade to it.

941
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,400
But I thought it looked quite nice. And yeah, we

942
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,400
don't really know too much else. I did see apparently

943
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,159
there's something I was looking I was reading this article

944
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,719
on Polygon. I think it was I was speculating that

945
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,679
like there's I think there's been like ten type fusions.

946
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,360
You know, there's always like maybe you're like rock and

947
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,840
water or something. A pokemon have like two types. There's

948
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,239
like ten or so type combinations that have never happened.

949
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,599
I think one of them is fairy fire, and so

950
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,800
they're theorizing maybe maybe that's what the starter could be.

951
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,480
I don't know if I really get the fairy vibe

952
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,360
from what we saw here, but I guess that's one

953
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,000
of the things that needs to get knocked off the list.

954
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: Of comb as fairy that this is like maybe like

955
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,400
a hair brain scheme, like maybe this could be finally

956
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,079
time we get.

957
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:39,639
Speaker 1: A fire fairy.

958
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:42,199
Speaker 2: Ah.

959
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:46,639
Speaker 1: I don't really see it personally, but who knows. They

960
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:47,719
always have quite the blow.

961
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: Up in their second Oh okay, I was so finnekin.

962
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,760
I thought that's the firefox. It's obviously it's a fire

963
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,960
type starter. I thought that that was a fairy type

964
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,239
as well, but it solely a fire type. But it's

965
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:08,000
final move has like it's it it can do psychic

966
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:10,840
moves because it's final move it has like a wand

967
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,559
that's a fire stick, like a stick on fire, I guess,

968
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,119
and I always thought that that was.

969
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: Is it officially a fire psychic type or final psychic moves.

970
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: Its final form is fire psych That's cool.

971
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: I like that combination.

972
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:31,119
Speaker 2: Let me just firm that. Yeah, fire psychic so neat

973
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:31,960
neat neat.

974
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,679
Speaker 1: I think one of the other ones is that like

975
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,440
a bunch of normal normal and like other types hasn't

976
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,599
happened yet, which is like, why do we even have

977
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:39,559
normal type anymore?

978
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: No? No, that's the that's the ratitats and okay.

979
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: Well don't don't eradicate the fuck I hate that guy

980
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,079
is the best? Did that ever get a third form?

981
00:46:57,199 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: Is there?

982
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a third rat?

983
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: D rat? You got the Galerian versions? You ever seen those? Oh?

984
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:09,119
Speaker 1: God, Galerian eradicate?

985
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

986
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:12,679
Speaker 1: I have not seen that? What is what is Galerian again?

987
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,800
What game is that from?

988
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: Oh? My god, I have no idea. I can't remember.

989
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,440
I'm gonna guess it might be. So here you got

990
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,880
the Galerian rata mustache, and then here's the radicate.

991
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:35,039
Speaker 1: God, the first Yeah I don't like radicated fan.

992
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: Oh what do you got? Because you got the Galerian

993
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,280
we I love?

994
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,039
Speaker 1: I love the bong bong.

995
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: Rip is the best Galerian rappi dash, which is super

996
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,920
unicorny I love it.

997
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:54,079
Speaker 1: The far fat I love the far Fetch is the best, and.

998
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: The legendary birds I really like those that are cool.

999
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like the guy in the ball him right?

1000
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,239
What's that guy called again?

1001
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:06,199
Speaker 2: Uh? Obstagoon? I think I love him. He's so cool.

1002
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:12,800
He looks like he's mischievous. Uh. Yeah.

1003
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,559
Speaker 1: Do you think that Brout, Palm Bond or Gequa's evolution

1004
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,559
one of them will be a playable fighter in the

1005
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:23,960
next Smash Bros.

1006
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:32,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no. I think there'll be trophies. Wow, Okay, yeah,

1007
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,480
I think I think you'll get Pokemon Trainer with those

1008
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,559
three types. Ah, then you'll get Because.

1009
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: The generation has had a fighter represented, but in ciner

1010
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,599
Roar was in there for Ultimate, So I think I

1011
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,400
guess Scarlett and Violet hasn't had the opportunity to really

1012
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,360
have a character in there. Wait, does Sort and Shield

1013
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:58,440
and ciner or is he before that? I'm really quizzing

1014
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,880
you on your Pokemon dolargh.

1015
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:03,639
Speaker 2: He's a sword and Shield starter, I'm sure. No, he's

1016
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,840
not Grooky Score Bunny and Sobble of the Sword and

1017
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,480
Shield Starter.

1018
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: Wow. So the whole Switch generation didn't really have any

1019
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,599
smash character representation. That's kind of crazy. So I guess

1020
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:17,159
there's a lot of options they could go for. They

1021
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:19,039
don't have to necessarily go to the most recent one,

1022
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,679
that's right, but you know they'll have one. They always

1023
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:23,719
have a new Pokemon as a playable character.

1024
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: And I think so that starter score Bunny. I think

1025
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,159
his third form, cinder Ace, could be the one that

1026
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:35,119
could get the martial arts Rabbit.

1027
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:40,599
Speaker 1: Looks like penny Wise or something good looking. I don't

1028
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:43,599
like that design at all. Zero to ten.

1029
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:45,519
Speaker 2: It's like a striker's character.

1030
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:53,639
Speaker 1: Cool. Any other Pokemon thoughts.

1031
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't think so. No.

1032
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a that was a good discussion. And

1033
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,559
and then we can close it out with a little

1034
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:05,000
bit of Xbox. So before we talk about the new

1035
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:09,320
hardware announcement that we got, just scrolling back a couple

1036
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,840
of weeks of when the Phil Spencer Sarabahn announcement happened.

1037
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,599
Since you're a big Xbox guy, wondering if you have

1038
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:18,400
any thoughts you wanted to share on them leaving or

1039
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,800
the new person in their position joining, any any thoughts

1040
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,840
on just the leadership changes over their own Xbox.

1041
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,519
Speaker 2: It's I feel like it's a long time coming. This

1042
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:31,440
has been something that we've been kind of sitting on

1043
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:34,920
for a while that Phil Spencer just has not been

1044
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,519
cooking as well as he should be. So yeah, I

1045
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:42,599
mean they say resignation, but how we know really what

1046
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:45,840
it's like on the intern like the internal side of things,

1047
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,920
where maybe he's getting a lot of backlash, maybe people

1048
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,800
are asking him to step down and yeah, instead of firing,

1049
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,239
we're just going to change the words to retire and

1050
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,320
stuff like that. Yeah. So I just think that these

1051
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,159
individuals that are stepping down, I think it's a OK.

1052
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,440
And I think it's it's a good thing because Xbox

1053
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:05,159
was not heading in a very great direction and if

1054
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:06,639
it's not going the right way, then you gotta look

1055
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:07,320
at the leadership.

1056
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, for me, it always really comes back

1057
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:15,039
to the Activision Blizzard acquisition. That was just such a

1058
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:18,719
awful move for the company I think overall, and just

1059
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:21,519
like it happened so many years ago now, it feels

1060
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,239
like but just the fallout of it has been you know,

1061
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,320
years worth of kind of catching up and all that.

1062
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,239
So we'll see what happens with this new new leadership.

1063
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,320
But one thing we can kind of more tangibly look

1064
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,119
at is that Xbox has announced Project Helix, which is

1065
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,159
the kind of I guess code name of their next

1066
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,639
generation of hardware. Release date, we don't really know. There's

1067
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,880
I think they roughly said like twenty twenty seven, but

1068
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,960
I think also PlayStation said that, but like it's kind

1069
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,000
of get kicked down the road just because of chip

1070
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:52,320
shortages and stuff right now, Like I doubt they're gonna

1071
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,800
launch this console next year. That seems a bit too soon,

1072
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,639
but it is kind of what we've heard in recent times,

1073
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:00,280
which is that they you know, they've been hint that

1074
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,639
their next generation hardware is gonna be extremely high end,

1075
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:08,719
a premium also therefore meaning very expensive, and you know,

1076
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,440
maybe just going for a different market than the switch

1077
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,119
market or even the PlayStation market, going for a higher

1078
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:19,119
end mark striking at the PC side of things. So

1079
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:21,280
we'll see what happens there. But really that was the

1080
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,880
biggest thing they said here is that the next generation

1081
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:27,000
is it is a console, but it is gonna have

1082
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:30,800
full PC game access on it. So that's kind of

1083
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,159
the biggest change is and now you have all these

1084
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:34,280
PC games in there, it sounds like it's gonna be

1085
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,159
like obviously it's gonna run on Windows or whatever, but

1086
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:39,920
it's gonna have access to like Steam and I guess

1087
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Epic Game Store, any other storefronts you could imagine, so

1088
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:46,159
you can play games, you know, hopefully val like Steam

1089
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,920
is integrated. Well, we covered a rumor about that happening

1090
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:51,559
like a year two ago at this point, that the

1091
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,599
Xxbox is gonna have like Steam integration, which, like who

1092
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:56,639
knows how integrated it's gonna be now because Steam is

1093
00:52:56,679 --> 00:52:59,000
coming out with their own actual like thing with the

1094
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,119
Steam Machine, So we'll see what happens there. But yeah,

1095
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,199
you know, as I've said, like we kind of were

1096
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,880
hinted at this earlier that it was going to be

1097
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,719
a premium, high end kind of thing. Obviously, the confirmation

1098
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,559
of PC games here. What are your thoughts overall on

1099
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,199
Project Helix and just the next generation of Xbox? Excited?

1100
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,599
Not excited? Where you at?

1101
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,159
Speaker 2: I'm pretty freaking excited. I mean, it's I feel like

1102
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,639
it's kind of hard to believe that the Xbox is

1103
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,840
so many years old now, because I remember I remember

1104
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,639
queuing up for it and everything back in twenty and twenty.

1105
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:37,440
I guess, so six year old console. Holy smokes, but

1106
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,480
I am excited. I am I'm not going to be

1107
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:43,519
when I look at that price tag, but I just

1108
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,519
I do have an affinity and that sweet spot for

1109
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,519
trying to pick up a new console. And I remember

1110
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:51,239
when that switched To was coming out and I wasn't

1111
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,159
telling myself I was going to get it. But then

1112
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:55,599
when it was like two days before, the day before,

1113
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:57,760
I was like, I gotta get it. The hype was there,

1114
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,679
the excitement was there. I was like, this is just

1115
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:01,920
how often do you get to experience like a new

1116
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,000
console release? And it is. It is a magical, exciting feeling,

1117
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,079
and in a slight degree, maybe not as exciting as older.

1118
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,159
Speaker 1: Consolession returns for me at this point, like I have

1119
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,320
the switched To and it was like, all right, this

1120
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,119
is a switch to. But yeah, but I'm just old

1121
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:20,639
and jaded and starting.

1122
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,559
Speaker 2: That's what I'm hoping the Xbox, this Project Helix will

1123
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:27,239
do for me. I mean the idea of it playing

1124
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,400
PC games that gets me.

1125
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: Pret pretty good PC game library. I feel like, so

1126
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,039
that's that's a big plus for you.

1127
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,039
Speaker 2: I do. I've got a fair few titles on on

1128
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:40,639
the Steam and so even the Epic Games Store, I

1129
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,280
got a whole bunch of titles on there, Oh my god,

1130
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,800
because I'm they were just putting.

1131
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:46,159
Speaker 1: Up all the free stuff.

1132
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were playing some crazy good games in

1133
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,719
there for free. So I mean, the thing that gets

1134
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,079
me excited is if I did I didn't want to

1135
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:56,599
start over like Prider Hunting Grounds. I played The Living

1136
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,119
Daylights on PC on the Epic Game Store and and

1137
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:02,679
I'm super high rank all this stuff unlocked. I did

1138
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,039
not want to have to restart it when they dropped

1139
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,960
on Xbox. So now with Project Helix, it's like, Okay,

1140
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,239
this is great. I can just log into my Epic

1141
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,039
Games front and then just put on Pread or Hunting Grounds,

1142
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:13,639
just play it and I get all my stuff back

1143
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:15,480
and I don't have to worry about any And most

1144
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,960
games are cross they're cross play. Not a thing is

1145
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,559
cross progression, which is fine. But if I can just

1146
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:25,360
log in on my main console with another account, then boom,

1147
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,119
cross play it up and we're good to go. Let's

1148
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:27,679
have some fun.

1149
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah for sure.

1150
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1151
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm much less excited for this, mostly

1152
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,480
because of just what happened three or four months ago,

1153
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:43,239
when Xbox drastically increased the cost of game Pass, and

1154
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,039
then I unsubscribed to that at that point haven't jumped

1155
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:48,480
back on it. I plan to, you know, when like

1156
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:50,400
Fable comes out or something, I'll jump in subscribe for

1157
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,480
a month, but I haven't jumped back in yet. And

1158
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,360
just because of how crazy expensive this console is going

1159
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,840
to be, mixed with how crazy expensive the monthly subscription

1160
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,239
is to the main feature of why I would want

1161
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,719
the next Xbox in the first place. I think this

1162
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,960
is gonna be a pass for me. I think the

1163
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:07,559
Series X is probably the last Xbox I'll ever own. Like,

1164
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:10,639
maybe I'll get if they keep doing the handheld stuff.

1165
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:13,880
Maybe I'll get one of those down the road if

1166
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,920
they keep making it better and get the price just

1167
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,119
right and it has that level of power, like because

1168
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:20,719
I could see that being something I would want, you know,

1169
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,880
alongside of Switch potentially. But yeah, I don't think I'll

1170
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,199
get another Xbox home console, at least with the way

1171
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:28,719
things are going now or looking right now. I would

1172
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,480
definitely need them to do a huge price drop on

1173
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,760
game Pass to make that affordable thing I want to

1174
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,800
be in the ecosystem for. And I don't know, I

1175
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,039
feel like for years to come. Still, I will still

1176
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:40,360
have access to like I think it'll be a while

1177
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,559
before we get an exclusive game on the Helix. I

1178
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:45,519
feel like the series X will probably run most things

1179
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:48,320
for a few years yet, So yeah, I mean, even

1180
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,000
if this is a couple of years away, I don't

1181
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:52,760
I really have zero excitement for Xbox as a whole

1182
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,960
right now. I haven't. I've barely even turned that thing on.

1183
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,800
I guess I played Residuevil six on there, but since

1184
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,400
the price increased, a game passing unsubscribed back in November,

1185
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,159
I don't think I've like booted up my Xbox at all.

1186
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,000
It's just collecting dust now unfortunately, which is which is

1187
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,679
a bummer. But I got a few years of really

1188
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,000
good game and for really good value there, so you know,

1189
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,599
still remember those times fondly. But now I'm kind of

1190
00:57:12,599 --> 00:57:16,360
just mostly playing things on PlayStation or PC or something

1191
00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:19,280
or switch to still, so yeah, I don't know. We'll

1192
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,599
see what happens here. This is kind of unex you know,

1193
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:25,079
nothing was really unexpected here. I think the PC game

1194
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:26,880
like full integration makes a lot of sense for how

1195
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,800
the company has been going the last few year, especially

1196
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,360
with all their games being kind of cross between PC

1197
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:34,519
and console now it can. This probably helps a lot

1198
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:36,480
with developments, since they're making this thing even closer to

1199
00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:39,679
a PC. I assume it makes that development process of

1200
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:42,079
like it's really not even making it for two separate platforms. Now,

1201
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,480
you just make it for PC and then we'll run

1202
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:46,840
on this. So that seems pretty smart in terms of

1203
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,320
the pipeline of getting games out of the door and

1204
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,840
making games more affordable, and hopefully therefore making sure that

1205
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,480
Xbox keeps their employees rather than firing everyone after they

1206
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:58,679
release a game. We one can hope. Where do you

1207
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:02,440
think this is gonna fall price with the Steam Machine?

1208
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,440
I would assume it's going to be higher, But also

1209
00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:10,599
Xbox is making consoles forever, Steam not so much in

1210
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:12,880
that space, so who knows how the prices can get there.

1211
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,320
But yeah, where do you think this is gonna compare

1212
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,400
to the Steam Machine?

1213
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:20,239
Speaker 2: The Steam Machine is? Is there an official price on that?

1214
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,559
Speaker 1: I don't think we have an official price on that yet.

1215
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:23,800
It is supposed to be coming out this year.

1216
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,039
Speaker 2: Still, apparently, I'm gonna say the Steam Machine is probably

1217
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:29,360
fifteen hundred bucks because I feel like Steam is a

1218
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:36,320
fifteen bucks. I feel like you'd be fifteen hundred bucks. Yeah, no, American,

1219
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,960
fIF American, I think so. I think, okay, it'll be

1220
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:41,920
between a thousand two.

1221
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell like seven of those. But it's that expensive,

1222
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:45,159
I know.

1223
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:48,119
Speaker 2: I think with the amount of hardware that they have

1224
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,280
access to creates A, they need to pump the prices up.

1225
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:55,239
You've got a lot of things, you know, in the

1226
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,320
world right now, economically speaking, prices are going up for

1227
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,519
a lot of things happening all over the place, lots

1228
00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:04,920
of causes. So I think that's again gonna drive the

1229
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,159
cost up for something like this, And so that's why

1230
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:09,960
I think fifteen hundred is probably like a safer bet.

1231
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,199
But its terms like with the Xbox. I mean, the

1232
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,079
Xbox was at least nine to ninety nine. I was

1233
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:18,000
seeing some reports, So I'm not sure where that'll kind

1234
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,800
of line. I think it'll be close, but I think

1235
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,599
it's gonna come under the steam.

1236
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: Box interesting, okay, I I think I'm on the other

1237
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,920
side of this. I think they might because they already

1238
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,760
have the series X, which I imagine will be supported

1239
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,840
for years to come, and I don't think they're gonna

1240
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,599
got d of the series S anytime. Soon either, even

1241
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:38,400
though it's like much weaker. I think they want the

1242
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,960
different price point options and so I could easily see

1243
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,519
them supporting those for a while, even though they're not

1244
00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:47,360
really selling that well. So maybe they'll discontinue them soon anyway,

1245
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,800
Who knows, but I feel like they want that. They

1246
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,000
want like the super cheap option with the Series S,

1247
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:54,400
which is just like, you know, a flimsy piece of

1248
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:56,920
hardware at this point, a Series X, which is like,

1249
00:59:57,239 --> 00:59:59,800
you know, in that range, and then this is will

1250
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,679
be the super high end, and so I think it's

1251
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:04,320
going to go pretty high up there. And so I'm

1252
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,880
assuming that something like a Steam Machine is going to

1253
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,119
fall in between a Series X and the Xbox Project

1254
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:14,039
Helix thing. So I feel like I feel that Valve

1255
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:15,480
is going to go a bit lower. Also the fact

1256
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,960
that it's coming out this year and this Xbox might

1257
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,519
not come out till next year the year after, so

1258
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:22,599
you think that hardware stuff like the prices are just

1259
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:24,760
going to maybe go up even more. I think so

1260
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,119
that might be part of it too, but who knows.

1261
01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:28,760
Maybe maybe Valve releases different skews like they did with

1262
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,039
the Steam Deck had different skews as well, which mostly

1263
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:33,840
I think was like screen, screen and storage. But you know,

1264
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,960
I'm sure once again, when you factor those things in there,

1265
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,360
I'm sure there'll be a version of Helix that has like,

1266
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,039
you know, thirty two gigs of hardware space, so you

1267
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:42,760
can not even download one game. But it's like a

1268
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,960
bit cheaper than the version that has the terror byte

1269
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,480
and all that. So options, options, options, all that sort

1270
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:51,000
of stuff. But yeah, I feel like i've This is

1271
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:53,239
also kind of reminded me how little I've heard anyone

1272
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,800
talk about the Xbox Ally. It took me even a

1273
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,840
second road it was called there for a second, which

1274
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,559
I feel like is not a great sign. But I

1275
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:02,480
don't think I know a single person in the real

1276
01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:05,880
world who has one of those, or even probably I

1277
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,280
don't even know if I have a single friend who

1278
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,039
would know what an Xbox Ally is, other than like

1279
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:12,239
people who are doing video game podcasts.

1280
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: When I think, hanheld, I'm just going to steam Deck,

1281
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,280
to be honest, that's where my mind goes.

1282
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,079
Speaker 1: Switch and switch and seam Deck. Xbox not even in

1283
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:24,119
the competition, So I don't know. I I don't think

1284
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:25,920
this is gonna be I don't think this is gonna

1285
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,719
go well for them, I think it's gonna be really expensive.

1286
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,639
I think it's gonna sell horribly, and I just don't

1287
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:34,239
know it's I mean, I guess you know a lot

1288
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:36,159
of maybe maybe they're just going out for the whales.

1289
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:39,239
They're going out for the whale market of gamers, which is,

1290
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,400
you know, a viable business for a lot of like

1291
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:43,519
Marvel Snap, you know, all they care about is the whales,

1292
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:45,039
and that's how they make their business. They don't make

1293
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:47,079
it off of everyone pitching it a little bit. They

1294
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:49,480
make it from a few people spending a fuck ton

1295
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,760
of money. And so maybe that's what Xbox is going

1296
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,719
for here, like, hey, we're not gonna sell as many copies,

1297
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:56,920
but the consoles twice expensive as our last one, and

1298
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,199
the monthly refference now over twice what it was as

1299
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,719
you know, a few years ago. So maybe that's where

1300
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,719
they get. Yet, you know, they need less people in

1301
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,519
the door because it's just so expensive for the people

1302
01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:08,320
who are actually paying for it. So we'll see, maybe

1303
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,280
that's their strategy, which you know, if the case, if

1304
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,960
that's the case, it's gonna be less popular than ever,

1305
01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:15,400
but maybe they can still make the profits work. Well,

1306
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,639
we'll see what happens there. But I think really just

1307
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,719
you know, since this is so close to a PC,

1308
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:22,880
just get a regular PC. You know. That's why they

1309
01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:25,840
don't bother getting the Xbox One. That's gonna be limited

1310
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,159
in many ways over what an actual PC can do.

1311
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,119
So but I guess you know, that's kind of been

1312
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:32,159
the case for Xbox even in this generation. Here, I

1313
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:34,480
am still enjoying my series X or at least I

1314
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:38,039
was until till the recent price price jumps. But yeah,

1315
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:39,800
that's that's really all there is for this for now.

1316
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,360
There isn't a ton of details at the moment. Any

1317
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:44,239
predictions you want to make on any other thoughts you

1318
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,760
had on Project Helix on this day here.

1319
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: Uh, whenever that drops, I think it's gonna drop with uh, well,

1320
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,639
it'll drop with the new Halo game, Halo Combat Remastered

1321
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:59,320
or reimagined, right, I imagine that'll probably be good timing

1322
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:03,920
new Xbox console. Is that I thought that was? Is

1323
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,039
it twenty twenty six or maybe it does it twenty twenty.

1324
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,039
Speaker 1: Six in a couple of months or something. I might

1325
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:09,519
have made that up.

1326
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let me look Klo combat, Reimagine Combat. Oh,

1327
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,960
that's the way not reimagine Campaign Evolved, Campaign Evolved. Yeah,

1328
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:22,800
especially schedule for twenty twenty six release. Okay, you're right.

1329
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought it was so soon.

1330
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:25,800
I might be wrong about that.

1331
01:03:25,719 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: But cool. I mean my other predictions, I mean, maybe

1332
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,199
a Years of War game something maybe stated to K

1333
01:03:32,239 --> 01:03:35,159
three that would be kind of nice. But I think

1334
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:35,679
these games.

1335
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully this freaking helix.

1336
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:42,159
Speaker 2: I would hope so good God, I hope.

1337
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: You get a good trade in value on the Series X,

1338
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,760
because there's really no reason a keeper Series X. Right,

1339
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,920
you'd probably bump that boy up, trade it in.

1340
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: I would trade it in, yeah, I mean, there's definitely

1341
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:51,199
no reason to keep it.

1342
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: There's not really any reason to keep an old Xbox.

1343
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: No. And that's what I've done every every generation up,

1344
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,360
I've traded in. Uh So there's usually a great spirit

1345
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,360
about a month where I have no Xbox because when

1346
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,360
I had the Xbox One, I traded that in for

1347
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,760
the Slim. And I had the Slim, I traded my

1348
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:12,960
Slim in for Oh I don't even remember. I can't

1349
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,360
remember so many models.

1350
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: But I usually x Slim. Yeah. Was it the Xbox

1351
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,880
one X that was the thing that existed, Xbox.

1352
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:27,079
Speaker 2: One x oh yeah baby, I did have one of those. Yeah,

1353
01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:31,519
and then the Xbox One and the Xbox one.

1354
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:34,199
Speaker 1: Do you think that the next because obviously Helix is

1355
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:35,519
just like a code name, do you think it's gonna

1356
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:37,360
have a better or worse naming scheme than they've had

1357
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,519
the last couple of generations.

1358
01:04:38,599 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to be Xbox seven to twenty. I'm still

1359
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,360
dying on that hill from twenty ten. Let's make it happen.

1360
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:46,639
I'm down with the blue LEDs.

1361
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: That would get me super hyped. All right, Taya, this

1362
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,920
is a fun episode. Thank you for joining me, Thank

1363
01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,000
you everybody for listening. We'll be back next week, of course,

1364
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:03,519
says we always are. Have a good rest of your week.

1365
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:05,039
We'll see again next time. Bye bye,