WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.599 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:29.399 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:30.039 the poll? 4 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.240 The question why. 5 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:41.280 The stories told and left behind in shadows where the. 6 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.240 Truth we find? 7 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:51.840 They built their tails on grafts and lives on theories. 8 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.399 They stake their designed. 9 00:00:55.439 --> 00:01:03.439 Put down here on this solid the answer screen there. 10 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.519 Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. 11 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:10.560 It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. 12 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.719 I'm your host is always George Hobbes. As we record 13 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:16.359 it is Saturday, April twelfth, twenty twenty five. 14 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:18.000 I hope this podcast finds you well. 15 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:20.560 We have great guests standing by from the great state 16 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:23.000 of Texas who will be joining us in just a moment. 17 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.000 Before we do, just reminder stop by the website, the 18 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.680 flat Earthfiles dot com and if you'd like to join 19 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:33.879 the podcast, like Austin is today, please send us an email. 20 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:38.599 It is fe files guest at gmail dot com. Again 21 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.959 FE filesguest at gmail dot com. As you can tell 22 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.280 from the date we're recording to the date this has 23 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:47.959 been published, we have a little bit of a buffer 24 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:52.159 zone there, so we will be filling for late May 25 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:52.760 early June. 26 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.640 At the time of this drop, so send us an email. 27 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.480 If you have a story to tell, please reach out, 28 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:59.920 say hello and share your story with the World File 29 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.760 guests at gmail dot com. Without any further Ado, let's 30 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:09.080 bring on today's guest. His name is Austin, joining us 31 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:10.879 from Texas. Good morning, Austin, how are. 32 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:12.680 You, sir? I'm good, good morning. 33 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:13.719 How are you doing great? 34 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:16.159 Thanks for taking the time to join me this morning, 35 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:19.199 and please do take a moment and introduce yourself to 36 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:19.800 the audience. 37 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.360 Yeah, so my name is Austin. I live in San Antonio, Texas. 38 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:27.960 I'm a big conspiracy theorist. Yeah, I don't know, I 39 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.159 just I just really like researching conspiracy theories. I mean 40 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:31.680 I try to bring it up to my friends all 41 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.719 the time and stuff, and some of them or you know, 42 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:35.240 kind of have it, but some of them don't, and 43 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:36.639 they kind of just like push me away. 44 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:37.360 But I don't know. 45 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.479 I'm glad that I have the opportunity to go on 46 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:42.520 this podcast because I've been listening to it for I 47 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.039 think maybe about like a year now, and I've I 48 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:46.840 didn't even know like I could apply to be a guest, 49 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:48.360 but I just listened to an episode one day and 50 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:49.800 it was like, no, you can apply to be a 51 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:50.840 guest here, so that cool. 52 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:51.560 I want to do that. 53 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:53.360 Yeah, that's kind of been the theme. 54 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.719 We just want to have a conversation with people who 55 00:02:55.719 --> 00:02:58.120 were in the trenches, you know, sharing their journey to 56 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.000 the truth. One thing that I do want to mention 57 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.319 and to the audience, and that's kind of my first 58 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:05.960 question to you is you're only eighteen years old. You 59 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:08.639 know what brought you to be a critical thinker at 60 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:09.560 such an early age? 61 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.000 Dang, I would say, I think I kind of started 62 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:18.240 questioning things and realizing things, honestly, like when COVID came around. 63 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.159 Because here's actually an interesting fact about me. So I 64 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.039 was raised atheist, and I was an atheist for about 65 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:26.560 sixteen years of my life, like from like zero to sixteen. 66 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.919 And I was big Ino Nasa. I was big into space. 67 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:32.199 I always wanted to be an astronaut and everything, you know. So, 68 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:35.439 like the I would say, I really started to kind 69 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:37.919 of figure things out when COVID came along, because even 70 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:39.719 though I was like raised atheists and everything like that, 71 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:44.199 my parents they were more conservative than most people. So 72 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.680 when COVID came around, we kind of started to realize 73 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.159 how much of like how much of a scamm it 74 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.120 was and everything, and we didn't want to get the vaccine, 75 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.319 and then my parents started kind of telling me stuff 76 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:54.000 about it, and I was like, oh, wait, maybe the 77 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.159 government isn't going to tell the truth about everything, you know, 78 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.879 So I kind of just started, I guess, like researching 79 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:00.840 a lot of COVID and everything and just kind of 80 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.319 getting all into that and kind of figuring out the 81 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.360 truth about vaccines and just like all the propaganda and everything. 82 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.840 And I would say that's really where it started, honestly. 83 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.120 So I'm guessing that would have put you around fourteen 84 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.639 or fifteen, maybe a freshman in high school at the time. 85 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.079 What was your experience like being in school. I really 86 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.519 had the opportunity to talk to people on this platform 87 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.680 who were you know, still in school at the time. 88 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:25.160 How did it affect your life? 89 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:25.920 Oh? 90 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:28.000 Man, it was horrible. I mean, it wasn't that bad, 91 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:29.920 but like it was just a lot of nonsense, you know. 92 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:32.800 It's like one thing that I definitely remember was obviously 93 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:35.000 we had to wear all the stupid masks. They literally 94 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:38.199 put plexiglass dividers between our desks, like in school. It 95 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:40.720 was the stupidest thing ever, it was horrible. And then 96 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.240 also they had these like arrows on the floor that 97 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:44.959 would like point in the direction that you had to 98 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:48.240 walk and like in like like where you had to 99 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:50.319 like walk throughout the school, and it was kind of 100 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:52.560 They said it was to like control like the flow 101 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.680 of traffic, to like stop the spread of like germs 102 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:56.920 or COVID or whatever, but it was actually a lot 103 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.600 worse idea because we were all crowded into one hallway 104 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.240 and there's more people, and they're like, you know, more 105 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.560 like congest like more congestion, people are touching things more. 106 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:06.800 It was just like a really strange idea that they 107 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.240 came up with that. And like I remember I was 108 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.959 walking to class one day and I was walking against 109 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.360 the direction of the arrows, but like my class was 110 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.519 only literally maybe like ten feet ahead of me. So 111 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.240 I was like, I'm not going to walk all the 112 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.720 way over, you know, and do like a whole other 113 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:22.439 loop when I could just walk right there like that 114 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.040 just common sense. I literally stepped into the classroom and 115 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.680 then this teacher came out and then she was like 116 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:28.600 did you She was like, did you come from this way? 117 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:29.879 And then I was like yeah, and then she was like, Oh, 118 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:31.720 the errors appointing the other way, you have to walk 119 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:33.720 around and come back. I was like, what, Like, are 120 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:34.480 you kidding me? 121 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:36.360 It was just so crazy. 122 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.000 That's like something they would do in the military. Some 123 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.759 of the nonsense that we had to deal with. When 124 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.000 when the jabs came around late December early January of 125 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.560 twenty twenty one, did you notice that the school district 126 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:55.160 or particular teachers, anybody kind of pushing the JAB narrative 127 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:57.040 encouraging people to get jabbed? 128 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:02.600 Well, actually, I I went to pretty conservative high school 129 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:05.720 when I was like like during COVID and all that, 130 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:08.120 so we didn't really have too many teachers pushing for it, 131 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.839 but there was definitely I remember. I remember specifically like 132 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:13.360 one teacher that we had. She was always masked up, 133 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.439 and she had all of these just like I don't know, 134 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.040 like liberal LGBTQ like posters and like stickers all around 135 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:21.680 the room. And she didn't treat like like the male 136 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.040 students and now she was just like super feminist and liberal, 137 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.519 and she was always talking about COVID and like all 138 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:28.480 these like protests that she went to. That was like 139 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.240 the only teacher I kind of remember. There was like 140 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:33.800 pushing for all that like stuff, but most of our teachers, 141 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.199 I mean, at least at the school, they didn't. I 142 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.000 don't know if like the school kind of like told 143 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.639 them not to, but they were pretty conservative. But definitely 144 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.240 one thing kind of related to that was whenever we 145 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.519 would walk throughout the halls of the school, they and 146 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.399 actually they didn't have these before COVID, but they put 147 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:50.879 up literally all of these posters all throughout the hallways, 148 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.040 and a whole bunch of them were like trust the science, 149 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.399 like science is real, and you know, there was some 150 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.879 stuff about COVID and like vaccines on there, and then 151 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:00.800 there was also just like this like you know, just 152 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:05.000 like DEI stuff. And but one of them I thought 153 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.199 was really really interesting, which didn't have anything to do 154 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:09.600 with COVID, didn't have anything to do with like you know, 155 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.000 like vaccines or even like you know, all this DEI 156 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.040 stuff that they're trying to push in school. I thought 157 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.759 it was really strange. It's that the Earth is round, 158 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.639 it is not flat. And that was a poster that 159 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:20.759 they put up, and I was like, why would they 160 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:21.480 put that up in here? 161 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:25.680 That is interesting because I think last month we went 162 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:30.000 up for our granddaughter's little musical Junior High musical. And 163 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.399 it's funny because here we are in the spring of 164 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:34.920 twenty twenty five and they had all of the same 165 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.920 posters you were just describing, with the exception of I 166 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.120 didn't see anything about a flat earth globe poster, but 167 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:45.480 a lot of trust the science and germs and this 168 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.959 and that, and you know, that is something in my 169 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.399 journey to the truth. One of my biggest things that 170 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:55.240 I champion is, you know, we need to completely rethink 171 00:07:55.399 --> 00:08:00.160 our education system because it is lost and critical thinking. 172 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.720 It's thirteen years of a lot of nothing, a lot 173 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:06.079 of busy work, and it is it really echoes what 174 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:08.720 Rockefeller says is, you know, I want a nation of workers, 175 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:10.759 not a nation of thinkers, and we can have something 176 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:13.680 in between there. We can have people who create things 177 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:17.319 but are able to think freely and make decisions without 178 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:18.600 being propagandized. 179 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:21.720 Right, Oh yeah, definitely. I mean the school system. I 180 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:24.639 mean I'm still in it. I'm graduating this year thankfully, 181 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:26.240 and I'll be done with it. But I've been in 182 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:28.240 it for like, you know, like eighteen years, and it's 183 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.639 just a whole lot of just I don't know, it's crazy. 184 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.080 Did you have any big plans after high school? What 185 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:37.639 did you have planned for once you're done with high school? 186 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:38.639 Where you headed which direction? 187 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:39.159 Yeah? 188 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:42.480 Yeah, So I've always been an entrepreneur. 189 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.080 So I've always been like super entrepreneurly like minded, and 190 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.240 I've always had my own business. I've never really worked 191 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:49.679 like too many jobs for like other people or anything, 192 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.799 but something that has kind of interested Like. So why 193 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.799 I say that is I might go into business, and 194 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.679 I might you know, like make another business and like 195 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.440 develop one. I guess because I actually had a window 196 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.279 cleaning business that I was doing for a while and 197 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.639 it got pretty successful and I had a business partner 198 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.639 I sold it to him, So I would either go 199 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.440 back into that, and we were doing a lot of 200 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.720 work in like the San Antonio area making some good money. 201 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.200 So that's definitely an option that I could do. But 202 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:18.919 if I don't do that, I was actually I have 203 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:20.919 two other options. One of them was I was actually 204 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.960 looking at joining the military. I talked to the Navy 205 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.200 recruiter I think maybe like a month or two ago, 206 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.200 and I was looking at joining the Naval Special Warfare program. 207 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.840 So I kind of joined some sort of like what 208 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.320 was the Navy Warrior Challenge and I was training with 209 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.879 them at a Fort Sam Houston. We'd wake up every 210 00:09:38.960 --> 00:09:40.879 day like five am, like go swimming. So that would 211 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.279 that would be for special Forces. But if I don't 212 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.279 do that. I actually found this program. It's in Australia. 213 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:50.240 It's called five FOT stands for Flying fly Out and 214 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.600 you can go basically work in the Australian like like 215 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:55.279 the mines. I don't know what they mind, like. 216 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.200 Yeah, Western Australia. 217 00:09:57.399 --> 00:09:59.919 Yeah, so they have those like the mining in Australia, 218 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.440 like a really cool opportunity because you don't need any 219 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.919 experience and you just fly there like they pay super well. 220 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:06.840 They pay for your food, they pay for your housing, 221 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.120 and I think it would be a cool experience and 222 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:10.799 then just worked out for your for like a few 223 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:12.519 years and I would have some I would have some 224 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:13.440 good money saved up. 225 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:14.639 Yeah. 226 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:16.960 I think ten percent of the world's gold reserve comes 227 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.200 from Western Australia at this point today. 228 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:20.960 Oh wow, I didn't know that. 229 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:25.159 Yeah, absolutely, And that's the thing they want. So there's 230 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.480 only X amount of gold in the earth, right, There's 231 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.360 still plenty, but there's only X amount, and that that's 232 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:34.559 when you get to petroleum and gas. That's why they 233 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:36.919 want you to believe that there's only a limited supply 234 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.879 of gas, because if it, if work got out, there 235 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:44.720 was plenty of gas oil, like there is water, they 236 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.960 couldn't justify selling it for three four five dollars a gallon. 237 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:49.519 Oh yeah, definitely. 238 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:49.840 Yeah. 239 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:50.200 Gold. 240 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.960 Yeah, Gold's the third largest commodity sector in Australia. I 241 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:59.360 think seventeen billion dollars last whatever fiscal year that was reported. 242 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.600 It's huge. 243 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.639 I I didn't know that they were like had like 244 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:06.159 a whole bunch of gold, but I I kind of 245 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.639 through my research, I found out that their mining is 246 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:09.720 a big part of their economy. 247 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:10.519 It really is. 248 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:13.000 But I think you guys work six twelve hour days 249 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:14.039 and you get oh yeah. 250 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:15.600 They were Yeah, they work like twelve So they definitely 251 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:16.399 work a lot of hours. 252 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.720 But what interested me was I don't have an experience 253 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.240 and it's like they don't really require that, which is cool. 254 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.679 But also they pay really well and you can basically, 255 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.279 you know, like lift for free while you're there because 256 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:27.120 they take care of your food and your housing and everything, 257 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:28.559 and yep. I also just kind of think it would 258 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.360 be a cool experience like go work in the mines. 259 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.279 It's like, that's not really something that I've done or 260 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.600 anything like I've I've grown up in like a pretty 261 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:37.200 nice area, so I kind of want to like go 262 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:38.440 do some hard work. 263 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:38.960 You know what I mean? 264 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.039 Yeah, it really is, and it's it's very similar from 265 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:43.799 one of the people I've talked to, very similar to 266 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.840 the oil industry, whereas you have your little choes, your 267 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.360 little container houses, they have a dining facility, and very 268 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.080 very similar to you know, the military. You've got your barracks, 269 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:54.919 you got your chow hall, and then you work all 270 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.279 day in the in the mines and you have your internet. Yeah, 271 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.000 they provide basically everything. And I'm you know, you're you're 272 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:02.840 young now and you have a chance to see the world. 273 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.919 Why would you do it? Absolutely? Oh yeah, definitely good stuff. 274 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.039 Talk a little bit about your journey to how you 275 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.519 came upon the subject of flat earth and what even 276 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:15.360 led you to look into it for sure. 277 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.440 So luck, I said during COVID was when I kind 278 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.080 of first started questioning like the mainstream I don't know, 279 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:23.840 propaganda and the news and all that. So that kind 280 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.879 of put me on a sort of like a mental path, 281 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:29.759 like a mental direction to more so think like, hey, 282 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:31.799 don't always believe you know these like the things that 283 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:34.399 these people tell you. So COVID happened for a while, 284 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:36.120 and then that was really like the only thing that 285 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:38.120 I was kind of like, I guess conspiracy theorists about 286 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:41.159 for a while. And then I actually, I think it 287 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:44.279 was freshman year of high school. I literally had an excess. 288 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.080 I think I think you caught like an existential crisis, 289 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.759 like a midlife crisis or something like that. Even though 290 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:51.519 it was only a freshman, I literally started freaking out 291 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:53.639 and I was like there, like I needed to figure 292 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.440 out like if God was real or if you know 293 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:57.600 anything like relating to that. I was like, I've been 294 00:12:57.600 --> 00:12:59.360 an atheist for so long. I just want to find 295 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.159 out the truth. I need to see if God's real 296 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:02.720 or and like all this stuff is like is their 297 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.600 life after death? Like there has to be some sort 298 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:06.720 of meaning to this. And I went down a big 299 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:13.000 rabbit hole with that. So that was a big thing, 300 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:14.759 and it took a lot of my time and energy, 301 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:17.000 and I was literally researching for like months and months 302 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:18.840 and months. I was like staying up like late at night. 303 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:24.399 I was researching religion. I was researching Christianity, you know, Atheism, Hinduism, Buddhism, 304 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.519 Buddhism and like Judaism and Islam and all these other religions, 305 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:30.080 and I just wanted to see, like if there was 306 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:32.840 enough evidence for I guess, like a religion that was true, 307 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.559 you know. So after doing that for a few months 308 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:38.279 and just devoting literally like so much of my focus 309 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:43.000 and time into that, I found the most evidence was 310 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:47.000 pointing to Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. So those were the 311 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.200 which is interesting because those are the three Abrahamic religions. 312 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.000 And then I was like, okay, now I boiled it 313 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.440 down to three. Now I got to figure out, like 314 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:57.200 if one of these is true, Like I have to 315 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:58.600 figure out like which one is the truth? 316 00:13:58.639 --> 00:13:58.840 You know. 317 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.600 So after I did a whole bunch of more research, 318 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:04.360 and I honestly, at that time I was more like 319 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.240 new Age spiritual when I was researching the religions. And 320 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.360 I was New Age spiritual because I didn't want to 321 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.639 follow the rules of like real I didn't want to 322 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:15.159 follow the rules of like Christianity, for example. I didn't 323 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.399 want to have to, you know, do all these things 324 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.639 and not do all these other things. And the New 325 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.639 Age spirituality for me was kind of like a way 326 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:25.360 to be spiritual without having to follow the guidelines. But 327 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:27.240 one day I literally just sat down and I was like, 328 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.080 you know what, like Austin, you just need to like, 329 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:31.159 regardless of how you feel, like what you want to do, 330 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:33.360 you literally just need to figure out like the truth 331 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.039 because you don't want to go to hell, you know, 332 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:36.759 if it's real, you don't want to you know, be 333 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:38.559 living in sin, if that's like a real thing, like 334 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:40.720 all these Christians are saying it is. So I just 335 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:44.120 buckled down and I just found so much evidence pointing 336 00:14:44.120 --> 00:14:47.039 to Christianity, like way more than any other religion. There 337 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.639 was just so much evidence for it. I literally like 338 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.519 had to become a Christian. It was just like completely 339 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.960 undeniable at that point. So I became a Christian about sixteen, 340 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.440 and then from there on out I started just you know, 341 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.320 getting really like Christianity and just like researching like a 342 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.080 lot of like theological stuff and everything. And then it 343 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:10.039 was actually kind of a random thing that happened. I 344 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.080 was friends with this guy and he sent me a 345 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:16.080 TikTok edit of Ted Kazinski, and it was like it 346 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.240 was just this TikTok edit of Ted Kazinski. 347 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.600 And like them like arresting him and all this stuff. 348 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.320 And then I started researching Ted Kazinski, and that TikTok 349 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.159 literally got me like into the rabbit hole of researching 350 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.919 all these conspiracy theories because I saw that TikTok and 351 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:32.039 I started researching him. And then I was like, oh, wait, 352 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.480 like the government's not that great and there's elite people 353 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:36.159 out there, and like they don't want you to be, 354 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:38.080 you know, doing all this stuff, and they don't want 355 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.759 you to be knowing all this stuff. And then I 356 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:42.759 kind of went from that to like I guess like 357 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:44.600 the moon landing was fake, you know, like the like 358 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:49.440 surface level beginner stuff. And then I just started researching 359 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:51.559 a whole bunch of other conspiracy theories. And then eventually 360 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.360 I saw some sort of like TikTok edit of like 361 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:58.200 cause when I was first coming in like conspiracy theories, 362 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.000 I'd watched like a little of videos and like TikTok 363 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:04.159 and like YouTube and stuff and also bit shoot yeah, 364 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:05.879 and then I saw like a flat earth video or whatever, 365 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.000 and I was like, man, like this is crazy, Like 366 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:09.879 people are gonna think I'm crazy if I believe this, 367 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:11.559 and I kept seeing more and more of it, and 368 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:13.440 I was like, you know, like maybe if they faked 369 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:15.960 the moon manning, maybe this isn't so crazy. And I 370 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.480 was like, all right, you know it's probably fake, but 371 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:18.519 I'm just going to research it. 372 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:20.320 Just kept researching it. 373 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:22.960 I was like, all right, like this aligns with Christianity, 374 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:26.080 this aligns with what I've observed in reality, and there's 375 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:26.480 just too. 376 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:27.559 Much evidence to deny it. 377 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.200 So that's basically kind of how I came to that. 378 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:33.960 Well, it's hard to believe that an eighteen year old 379 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.960 is saying that you actually take the time to discern 380 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.360 for yourself, and you actually looked at all the religions 381 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:41.919 and it was interesting that it was narrowed down to 382 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:46.000 the Abrahamic religions and then when you look at the 383 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:52.559 fine details, you really understand, in my opinion and many others, 384 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:54.440 I think most people listen to this podcast what the 385 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:59.759 true religion is. And you know, we talked a little 386 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:02.080 bit before the podcast, and I think we could cover 387 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.480 some things on the fact Unner at some point about 388 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.200 things related to it. But in your line of everything 389 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.759 that you just said on how you came to becoming 390 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:16.359 a Christian and we'll get into that now. Did when 391 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:20.119 you finally realize that, you know, the whole lie about 392 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.640 heliocentrism and that we live on a full plane, did 393 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.240 you kind of get the gist of how important that 394 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.200 this rabbit hole is and the intention of hiding God. 395 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:30.720 Oh yeah, I mean it was definitely. 396 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:31.319 Yeah. 397 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.319 I realized how important it was, and it was just 398 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.079 like so profound me. I was like, well, once I 399 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.160 figured out the Earth was flat, I was like, dude, 400 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.799 like my whole like worldview of like my of my 401 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:42.480 reality to. 402 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:43.480 Just like completely change. 403 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:46.279 I was like, I don't know, it was literally just 404 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.720 like the most profound thing and just like thinking that 405 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:51.759 not thinking, like knowing that literally everything we've been taught 406 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:53.759 in school and just by the media and the news 407 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:56.200 and everything is just like it's just a complete lie. 408 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.640 It just completely changed my worldview about things like my 409 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.400 full on the live just like opinions and everything, just 410 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:03.160 how I view the world. 411 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:04.880 That completely change like literally everything. 412 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.039 What were some of the you know, we call the 413 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.960 silver bullets, but what were some of the evidences of 414 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.480 flat earth that really puts you over to the flat 415 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:16.279 earth side. 416 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:22.240 Oh yeah, definitely, So I would say number one for me, 417 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:25.920 I would say the most. I would say the most 418 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.000 convincing thing wasn't what convinced me initially, but is what 419 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.720 convinced me the most now. So what convinces me the 420 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:35.440 most now is you know the fact that it's literally 421 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:37.160 talked about in the Bible, because that's what I believe 422 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:39.839 is like the ultimate truth and everything. But initially what 423 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:42.359 convinced me was I kept on seeing long distance photography 424 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:44.240 and I was like, now, I've been up on planes 425 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.400 before and I've never really seen the curve. And I'm 426 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.920 seeing all this like long distance photography, these like YouTuber's 427 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.720 talking about and everything, and I was like, that seems 428 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:54.960 really weird that we can, you know, take videos and 429 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.200 photos to that far without any curve, Like that doesn't 430 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.480 make any sense at all. So I would say the 431 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:01.920 fact that it's talked about in the Bible, all of 432 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:04.240 the long distance photography that you know, people have been 433 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:07.519 able to take, I would say, like, those are my 434 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:09.640 main reasons. And then also just like you know, like 435 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:12.599 me being like up on planes, I like, I've traveled 436 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.440 on airplanes and everything, and I've literally never seen a 437 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.160 curve or anything. So I would say that, like those 438 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.839 are definitely the main reasons. Then also there's like more 439 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:24.079 like like more like fine details, like I heard that 440 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:26.680 they have like some sort of I guess it's like 441 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:29.599 lasers or whatever, like radar or something on those Navy 442 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.200 ships and it has to go on like a straight 443 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:34.279 line so it can like detect anything like or like 444 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.319 work properly, and it wouldn't work if there's a curve 445 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.680 or anything like that. So that was kind of something 446 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:40.279 that I found interesting. 447 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:44.079 Yeah, that is a big one. 448 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.039 Sonar radar in the military, we had something called in 449 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:50.480 OA two five four which we would use on our 450 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:52.319 retrans sites and they were line of sight. 451 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:54.839 And then I have. 452 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.160 I've got to find my notes. But just yesterday I 453 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:07.359 found through the CIA's archives fifteen NASA documents that say 454 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:09.759 treat the Earth as flat and non rotational. 455 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:11.720 Oh yes, yeah, not too. 456 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:13.759 I remember once I saw it, I was like dang, 457 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:15.720 like literally like even these people are saying it, like 458 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:16.599 that's actually crazy. 459 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:17.799 Yeah. 460 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:19.920 And if you put if you go to the CIA, 461 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.480 it's very easy. Just go to the CIA archive and 462 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:26.759 in not parentheses but quotation marks, because if you just 463 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.519 put in flat earth, it'll give you any combination of 464 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:32.960 words that say flat or earth, But if you put 465 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.599 it in quotation marks, it will search that exact phrase 466 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:41.119 and you will find all kinds of NASA documents and others. 467 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.559 I think some training manuals talking about treating the earth 468 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.039 as flat, non rotational nevy. Anybody who's been in the 469 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:52.240 military before knows that you train as you fight, and 470 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.000 there's no reason you would train one way and then 471 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:58.440 execute another way. It makes zero sense. Oh yeah, definitely, 472 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.160 what luck have you had? Shit hearing this uh with 473 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:02.680 friends and family, et cetera. 474 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:05.880 Well, it used to be a lot harder, honestly, back 475 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.480 when I was a like an underclassman in high school. 476 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:11.400 But now that I've become like a junior and a 477 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.200 senior and all that, it's more so like I've just 478 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:16.759 found more people that agree with me on the topics. 479 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:18.039 Like back in the day. 480 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:19.519 When I was younger in high school and everything, I 481 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:21.839 kind of came to the truth and the realization about 482 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:23.759 all of this stuff, and I was having like I 483 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.319 literally could only find one person at my school that 484 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:29.880 believed like everything about like the flatter thing, like Christianity. 485 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.000 He was Christian and everything, and he knew about all 486 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.559 the stuff going on and you know, all these elite 487 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:37.440 people and stuff about the Holocaust and everything. So I 488 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:39.079 only had like one friend that believed it for like 489 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:39.799 the longest time. 490 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.240 And then I moved to this other school this year 491 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:43.079 and I. 492 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:46.400 Found a lot more friends that are kind of like 493 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:47.680 know about all this stuff, and we had to like 494 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:49.240 talk about it in class, like we have like open 495 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:50.359 discussions about it sometimes. 496 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:51.440 So it's kind of interesting. 497 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:53.759 So I would say it's been hard for the most part, 498 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.839 But recently I've been able to find more like minded people, 499 00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:59.079 which is good, but it's still very hard to find 500 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.920 people like that. It's only it's only a few amount 501 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:05.519 of people. There's it's definitely hard to find those, uh, 502 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:06.599 those kinds of people. 503 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:08.799 Yeah, And it's also fair to say, because I remember 504 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:12.200 when I was your age, those type of subjects weren't 505 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.200 at the at the you know, forefront of my mind. 506 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:18.039 There's so many other things going on. But when when 507 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.359 you were able to get the conversation out in the open, 508 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:22.480 did you find that many of the people would defend 509 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.759 the globe without knowing any of you know, the stats 510 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.839 behind it, how far the sun, the moon or any 511 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:30.559 of that, just blindly defending helio centrism. 512 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:32.680 Yeah, so I. 513 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:35.000 Haven't really talked about I haven't really talked to too 514 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:38.839 many I guess, like globe believers about it. 515 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:40.200 I've definitely talked to a few. 516 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:43.839 I've only talked to people that I can trust about 517 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:46.559 it who are globe believers, who you know, aren't anything 518 00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:49.000 I'm like crazy or anything. And then you know, we'll 519 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:51.799 kind of have open discussion back and forth. But really, 520 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:53.400 I would say, the only people I talk about it 521 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:55.960 too or really just you know, fellow I guess like 522 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:59.640 believers who believe like the same stuff. But now the 523 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:01.200 people I have talked to you about it that are 524 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.200 globe believers, Yeah, they literally don't know. They don't know 525 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.240 how far away anything is. They don't know the statistics 526 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:08.160 or the stats or anything. They haven't done any research. 527 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:10.079 And then I tell them everything. Look, I'll tell them 528 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.359 about like all this evidence, you know, like all this 529 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:16.319 evidence that NASA has faked everything, and just all the 530 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:18.000 evidence about the flat Earth and how it's in the 531 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.000 Bible and everything, and then they'll they'll literally just like 532 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:21.680 brush it off like they I don't even think it 533 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:22.359 goes into their brain. 534 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:23.279 It's crazy, Like they. 535 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.279 Don't have any evidence to defend their to defend their position, 536 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:28.240 and then you give them all the evidence and then 537 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.680 they're just like, yeah, I don't know, Okay, Yeah. 538 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:33.880 And you mentioned in your email two things that I 539 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.480 wanted to talk about is number one tartaria. How deep 540 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:38.799 of a dive have you done on that. 541 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:44.079 I've done a decent dive into the tartaria, but I 542 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:45.680 honestly just haven't found it as. 543 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:47.480 Interesting as like other topics. 544 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.960 So I definitely know a bit about it, but I'm 545 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:53.480 not like super well versed in it. 546 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:55.240 I guess are you more into the. 547 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:00.000 I guess I could ask you this way, do you 548 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.400 believe that we are in the timeline they say we are? 549 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:06.880 I honestly don't know, because that's something I question honestly 550 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:09.799 like every day. It's kind of like I'll literally just 551 00:24:09.799 --> 00:24:12.359 think about that topic like almost every single day, and 552 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:14.480 I'll be like, you know, like, is it really like 553 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:16.559 twenty twenty five? Is that really like this timeline that 554 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:20.039 we're on? So I see a lot of evidence for 555 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:21.839 I don't know. I'm kind of split like fifty to 556 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:23.680 fifty with that because I see a lot of evidence that, 557 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:27.440 you know, it's not the timeline that we were actually 558 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:29.240 in and that they're lying about all that. But then 559 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:31.480 I also just think, like, I don't know, maybe maybe 560 00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:34.240 it's not true. I don't know, So that's kind of 561 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:35.759 something that I'm divided on. 562 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:42.920 Yeah, I'm more into the architecture. Kind of paralleling that question. 563 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:48.799 We watched recently that the film Wall Street from eighty 564 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:54.880 seven and that the last scene is when he's walking 565 00:24:54.920 --> 00:24:59.039 into the I think it's called the moynihan Courthouse in Washington, 566 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:02.480 d C. And it's the camera pans away. You just 567 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.599 see this building with these huge pillars, and you can't 568 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:10.720 help but notice that, man, all of this architecture in 569 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.640 DC is all this Roman Empire based architecture. 570 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.400 And oh yeah, that's definitely a part of tartaria that 571 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:19.240 I have found a lot of interest in, and I've 572 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.400 done a decent amount of research into that, like even 573 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.960 just around San Antonio or like even Texas. Honestly, like 574 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.480 I'll see some of these like super majestic, beautiful, old 575 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:30.119 like grand buildings sometimes and I'll be like, they don't 576 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:32.279 make stuff like that anymore. That would have taken a 577 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:34.160 lot of resources, a lot of manpower, a lot of 578 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.440 just like very good skilled people to make that, and 579 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.440 it's just like it just looks so old. And also 580 00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.319 about like the Roman part too, you know, like it 581 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.400 looks like it's not culturally like made, like it looks 582 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.960 like it's made by an architect from like a different culture. 583 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:48.319 Like it. 584 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:49.039 It's just crazy. 585 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:51.599 And you see all these buildings like all around the 586 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:54.960 United States. And also another big one is the World's 587 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.400 Fair that they used to have and all those big 588 00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:59.519 like just everything with like gold on it and all 589 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.920 these big beautiful buildings and then they would just tear 590 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:03.839 it down right, and then they say that they blew 591 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:05.279 them up and they tore them all down and everything 592 00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:06.680 because it was just like a temporary thing. 593 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:07.839 It's like I don't know about that. 594 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.079 Yeah, that is something, man. That whole timeline after you 595 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.920 know what we're told the Civil War eighteen seventy one reconstruction, 596 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:22.319 because there's a huge shift in I mean you think 597 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:24.720 about it, and from eighteen sixty one to eighteen sixty five, 598 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:30.480 we have people on horses, people shooting cannonballs, muskets, photography 599 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.319 is brand new. And then reconstruction and then all of 600 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:39.440 a sudden we have engines, we have cars, and then 601 00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.240 that leads into other things turned to the century. It's 602 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:46.279 just that that twenty years and the advances that we made. 603 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.640 It's a head scratcher. And I'm not saying that it's 604 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:53.240 not possible, but it is kind of interesting that timeline there. 605 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:54.720 Oh yeah, definitely. 606 00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.119 Like I see all these like Tartaria photos of all 607 00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.440 these people like on horses and they're all where, like 608 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.359 they're all where suits and everything, and they're just like 609 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:01.920 standing around. 610 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:03.640 There's all these like crazy buildings and everything. 611 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:05.559 It's like it just looks out of place, and it's 612 00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.440 just like, I mean, it just looks like stage, you know, right. 613 00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.960 And the Tartaria thing that I think the most interesting 614 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.400 connection there is the Great Wall, right, because the whole 615 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:20.640 theory suggests that the Great Wall of China was could 616 00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.519 have been built by Tartaria, which was on the other 617 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.480 side of China. What people believe, right, And people believe 618 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.559 that the wall's defensive if you look at it, the 619 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:32.279 wall's defensive features face inward towards China, not outward as 620 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:35.960 you would expect if it was built by China. And 621 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:41.319 then Chicago World's Fair eighteen ninety three, you know it, 622 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.200 there is claims and that's why I look for these 623 00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:47.160 old books. It showcased Tartarian architecture, and again all of 624 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.759 this resembles ancient Rome rather than what we see in 625 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:50.759 modern America. 626 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:52.039 Yeah. 627 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.880 And then also I've seen I've seen old maps where 628 00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.000 they literally have like Tartaria on the map. It's like 629 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.640 this super big country or whatever, and it literally used 630 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:01.480 to be on the maps. 631 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.920 Yeah, a thousand percent. The theory is really interesting, but 632 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.000 it's it's one of those things trying to connect the 633 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:13.319 dots is extremely difficult because there are several things that 634 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.039 you can't do in concrete. And of course, any time 635 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:18.279 you're trying to connect the dots from five hundred years ago, 636 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:24.400 you're just trusting on which document to believe, right, Yeah, 637 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.680 but it makes another it makes a lot of sense. 638 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.960 That's why one of the big things I found interesting 639 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.359 when they say they use the word founded. 640 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:32.880 Oh yeah found it. 641 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.519 Yeah, it's like, yeah, we found it, Yeah, we found it. 642 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.599 And then your thoughts on the firmament you would mentioned. 643 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.160 That, well, yeah, I definitely think it's one hundred percent real. 644 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:46.680 I mean, you know, it's in the Bible. 645 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:48.839 And then they have all these you know, I get 646 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:51.039 quote unquote rockets going up in the sky and then 647 00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:52.519 they curve and it's like, oh, you know, it's just 648 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.599 going up the curvature e the like, No, they probably 649 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:56.559 just don't want it to explode and you know blow 650 00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.160 open on the firmament. And even times when they have 651 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:01.240 done that, you can literally see videos of like rockets 652 00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:03.319 going up and it's just it looks super weird. There's 653 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.480 like like weird gases and stuff. It looks like it's 654 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.079 in water or there's like like it explodes they get 655 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:09.759 it look like it looks like it hits something or 656 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.119 something like that. I mean, there's just so much like 657 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.839 evidence of it, even just from like these space agencies. 658 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.039 You can just like see videos and things just look 659 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:19.680 don't look right. But definitely the fact that it's in 660 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.000 the Bible is what convinces me as well. 661 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.319 Yeah right, that that is the home run for me 662 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.799 as well. It's it's in black and white God's words, 663 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.680 so we should believe it one hundred percent. And unfortunately 664 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.640 that's when we get back to that little seesaw where 665 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.319 you know, one hour in church, thirty five hours in 666 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:40.519 public school system that is run by the Rockefellers, and 667 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.079 they are not on team Christ. They are on team Satan, 668 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.000 and that leads me to my next question. You talked 669 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:50.480 about biblical evidence, and when you realize that we are 670 00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.240 living in this lie, then you realize how much of 671 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.240 taxpayer's money seventy million dollars every single day is going 672 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.839 to Satan's project, and how people are with that and 673 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.839 we are basically supporting, you know, a version of the 674 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:05.599 Tower of Babel. 675 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:07.480 Oh yeah, definitely. 676 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.039 Let's talk a little bit about the other theories before 677 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.160 we do. I want to play this audio clip, and 678 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.039 I want to I want you to kind of precede 679 00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.519 the the audio clip, talk a little bit about we're 680 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.559 gonna trand we'll come back to flat Earth. But let's 681 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.599 talk a few other conspiracy theories. Talk a little bit 682 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.119 about what you found out with Bob Dylan. 683 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:31.839 Oh yeah, I mean, Bob Dylan's super interesting. 684 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.279 I think I don't exactly know when I kind of 685 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:37.359 figured this all this stuff. 686 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:38.480 I think it was about last year. 687 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.759 But I started just just like regularly listening to his music, 688 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.759 and I got Supernurse music and I liked it and 689 00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:45.799 all that, and I thought it was great. And then 690 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.079 I kind of started to realize that he was one 691 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:50.599 of those guys that had sold his soul, and I 692 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.839 was like, oh, man, like all these artists that produce 693 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.519 all this great music and it sounds beautiful and like 694 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.240 everything is like it's just super popular. Like literally all 695 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:01.319 of these people they always sell their souls and that's 696 00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.000 how they get all the success and everything. And I 697 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.400 was like, and as a Christian, like I do sometimes 698 00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.880 listen to his music still just I really like it 699 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.200 and enjoy and everything, but it's like I definitely feel 700 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.440 there's some sort of like negative underlying like presence or 701 00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.880 like meaning behind the lyrics. And with Bob Dylan, I 702 00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.200 mean yeah, I mean I found so much evidence about 703 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.279 him selling his soul and just all that stuff. Like 704 00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.319 I found a video about him where he was talking 705 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:25.160 about how he went to the crossroads and how he 706 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.079 sold his soul, and you know, obviously there's the one 707 00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:30.400 with the sixty minutes where he's you know, like made 708 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:32.960 a bargain with the chief Commander and all that. So 709 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.759 I mean even just like that's that's super good evidence 710 00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.000 by itself, but also something that really convinced me is 711 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.599 the lyrics. There are so many lyrics, and I would 712 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.640 say maybe about like eighty percent of his songs have 713 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.440 some sort of evidence behind it about some sort of 714 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:54.759 like demonic deal or some sort of just something like that, 715 00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.079 some sort of like biblical theme that kind of talks 716 00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:01.599 about like what he did, for example, like Joker Man. 717 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.839 If you watch the music video the Bob Dylan has 718 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.519 for some Joker Man, there's a lot of pictures and 719 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:08.880 themes and just like good evidence in there. 720 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:11.039 And also like the lyrics and everything are really good. 721 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:12.400 But more so. 722 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.039 The lyrics that were convincing to me was the songs 723 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.640 like a Rolling Stone and also mister Tambourine Man. So 724 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.039 there's a lot of I actually have a document that 725 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.160 I wrote and I can pull it up on my 726 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.880 computer really quickly. But if you just look at what 727 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.920 he's saying, like, there's just so much evidence if you 728 00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:34.319 just like look at the meaning of it. 729 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.160 So let me pull this up. 730 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.559 So, yeah, So one of his songs, one of his 731 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.839 lyrics was as you stare into the vacuum of his 732 00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.880 eyes and say, do you absolutely. 733 00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:48.599 Talking about him selling this little of the devil? And 734 00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.279 people listen, Okay, so this is really good to right here. 735 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.000 It's so it's from one of Bob Dylan's songs, and 736 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.359 the lyric goes as you stare into the vacuum of 737 00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.279 his eyes and say, do you want to make a deal. 738 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.759 So I mean that just by itself is just an 739 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.519 obvious reference to like making a. 740 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:03.200 Deal with the devil. 741 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:04.680 He's literally saying do you want to make a deal, 742 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:06.319 and he's like staring in the vacuum of his eyes. 743 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.240 And it's just crazy that people will listen to a 744 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.000 lot of this worldly music and they won't even pay 745 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:13.960 attention to, like the lyrics. Like I remember, I was 746 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.519 listening to the song and I really enjoyed it. 747 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.440 Thought it was a cool song, sounded amazing and everything. 748 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.200 And I just started I just researched the lyrics one 749 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:21.960 day and I was like, dang, Like literally each one 750 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.039 of these lines has some sort of evidence to it. 751 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:28.359 So that's a good piece of evidence right there. Another 752 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.039 one that I have, let me, let me pull it 753 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:31.640 up here. 754 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.160 And I'm looking at the lyrics to this Joker Man song. 755 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.400 It's it's out there talking about Sadam Gamara walking on 756 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.440 water and uh oh. 757 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:39.880 Yeah, for sure. 758 00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:41.960 I mean even in that song, joker Man, I mean 759 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:47.000 talks about sodom and Gomora. I mean, just like in 760 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:49.240 the video, there's just a lot of pictures and everything 761 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.680 that are related to just like biblical themes and like 762 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:52.960 satanic things and all that. 763 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.640 This is. I was never a Dylan guy, so I'm 764 00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.079 not aware of any of these lyrics. This is interesting. 765 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.160 And then another one here is, hey mister, this is 766 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:04.759 tambourine Man. Hey, mister tambourine man, play a song for 767 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.200 me in the Jingle Jangle morning, I'll come following you. 768 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.400 So I kind of think this is like he's calling 769 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.719 out to lucifer as like the tambourine man, like he's 770 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.079 asking to be led, you know, like the music is 771 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.840 like seductive or whatever to him, and he just wants 772 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.239 to follow it, and he just kind of wants to 773 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.960 just follow him and all that. And then also this 774 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.800 other one, I'm ready to go anywhere. I'm ready for 775 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.840 to fade into my own parade. Cast your dancing spell 776 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.159 my way, I promise to go under it. I mean 777 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:33.719 that's literally just talking talking about him wanting to follow 778 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:35.719 the devil. He wants to go under it, he wants 779 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.639 to be put under a spell. I mean there's so 780 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.800 much literally, I mean in the songs, mister tamburine Man, 781 00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.639 and like a rolling stone here it is, Yeah, so 782 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.400 the devil as a tambourine man. So he says, hey, 783 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.440 mister tambourine man, play a song for me in. 784 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.280 The jingle jangle morning, I'll come following you. 785 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:56.760 I think that he's alluding to Satan as the tambourine man, 786 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.119 I guess you could say. And he wants to just 787 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.400 come following him, and he wants him to play a 788 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:03.679 song for him. And as we all know, Satan or 789 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:07.679 Lucifer was the angel of music in heaven. Another one 790 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.280 that I have up and I guess if you look 791 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.400 at these lines, maybe like you only like look at 792 00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:12.840 one of them, like it's not very convincing, But when 793 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:14.800 you look at each of the lyrics and the songs, 794 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.079 it just adds up in a compounds and it's like, oh, 795 00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.599 that's interesting, and that's interesting, and that that looks like 796 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.199 it has a meaning to it, and you just add 797 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.000 it all up and it just it's just a whole 798 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.719 bunch of evidence. Another one that I had over here 799 00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:34.400 was oh yeah, this one because okay, yeah, forgetting faith. 800 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.480 So one of his lyrics is with all memory and 801 00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.159 fate driven deep beneath the waves, let me forget about today, 802 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.000 until tomorrow. So I think this is talking about him 803 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.880 just honestly, like wanted to forget what he did, like 804 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.440 the deal that he made, forget you know where he's going. 805 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.000 He doesn't want to deal with it. And a lot 806 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.360 of these artists and musicians that they sell their souls 807 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.400 like they enjoy in the moment, right, but then as 808 00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.079 they get older and they kind of realize like what 809 00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:59.119 they did, they really get like super depressed. They they 810 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.280 you know, they start taking all these drugs and everything, 811 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.199 and then they die and it's just like the super 812 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.199 sad thing and it's like they just got old, they 813 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.000 got depressed and everything. And even if you watch that 814 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.360 sixty minutes interview with Bob Dylan where he's talking about 815 00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.440 making a deal with the Chief Commander, he just looks 816 00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.880 super old and just like not happy with life. 817 00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:16.719 He looks depressed. 818 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:19.599 He like he sounds like super I guess, like regretful 819 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:21.920 when he's talking about like what he did, and he's like, yeah, 820 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.960 I made a deal with it, and I'm holding up 821 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:24.480 my end. 822 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.320 And it's like he knows, like he's getting. 823 00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:27.480 Old and he's going to have to pay the price 824 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:28.119 for what he did. 825 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:29.920 That's right, Yeah, Now that's a great time. 826 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.519 Like the clip's only about thirty second, let's share it 827 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:33.599 with the audience. 828 00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:35.599 Still out here doing these songs. 829 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.840 You know you're still on tour. I do, but I 830 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.760 don't take it for granted. Why do you still do it? 831 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:42.800 Why are you still out here? 832 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.079 Well, it goes back to the destiny thing. I mean, 833 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.199 I made a bargain with it, you know, a long 834 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:54.199 time gone. I'm pulling up my end. What was your 835 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:55.880 bargain to get where. 836 00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:58.000 I am? 837 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:02.079 Now? Should I ask who you to bard with? 838 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:02.320 With? 839 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:02.559 With? 840 00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.760 With with you know, with the chief chief commander on 841 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:07.639 this earth. 842 00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:11.440 And this earth and then in the world we can't see. 843 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.440 So there it is. It's it's in our face. 844 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.960 And if people still don't believe, you know that this 845 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.480 is real and people are willing to sell their soul 846 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:25.599 for worldly goods. And by the way, it's Bob Dylan 847 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:28.559 is quite the interesting deep dive. He's his real name 848 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.239 is Robert Allen Zimmerman. And his name in Hebrew is 849 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:37.360 actually I think it's pronounced Shabtai. Shabtai. This this wil Ben 850 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.079 Avraham and Shabtai is actually uh, the same name is 851 00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.719 a secret society, a Jewish secret society at Yale University. 852 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:51.840 You know, everybody's sort of skull and bones, the Manuscript Society. Uh, 853 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.239 you know, very few people have heard of Shabtai. But 854 00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.039 now that you have what's that guy's name, Vivik Ramwowski 855 00:37:58.119 --> 00:37:59.119 or whatever his name is. 856 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.480 Yeahs avec Ramaswami or Swanny. 857 00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:04.119 I think, yeah, that he's part of it. A lot 858 00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:05.760 of people that you've heard of are part of this 859 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.400 secret society. 860 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.159 Yeah, definitely. And then also something else that I thought 861 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.800 was kind of interesting, so we all know how we 862 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.760 change his name from Robert Allen Zimmerman to Babylon. Sorry 863 00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:21.800 to Bob Dylan, but I was I was kind of researching. 864 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.199 I was like, can this be turned into like an 865 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.920 anagram of anything? And literally, Bob Dylan can be turned 866 00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:33.440 into an anagram of Babylon. Real interesting. Yeah, if you 867 00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.320 rearrange the letters like that, it makes Babylon. There's one, well, 868 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.119 one letter left over, which is D, but it makes Babylon. 869 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:42.960 That is interesting. I did. 870 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.880 Bob Dylan's use of Babylon typically refers to a symbolic 871 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.440 representation of societal ills, corruption, and the dangers of power structures. Uh, 872 00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:56.239 so he does actually in his songs apparently refer to 873 00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:59.440 Babylon quite a bit, including all Along the Watchtower. 874 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:03.960 And then I'm pretty sure he was all into I mean, 875 00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.079 obviously since he sold us All the Devil, but I 876 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.840 think he was into I don't know if he would 877 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.480 be he was into like crystals and like I guess 878 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.039 like like dark magic and stuff like that. And it's 879 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.679 kind of interesting to research that. But there was a 880 00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:21.760 photo of him during rehearsals for one of his for 881 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.800 one of his consorts was it was taken in nineteen 882 00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:25.760 seventy five, and there's a photo of him reading this 883 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.719 book it's called Crystal Magic, and like he's like there's 884 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.760 like a photo of him reading it. So, I mean, 885 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.119 you look at these people. There's just so much evidence 886 00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:35.079 to just show like what they're actually out there, like 887 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.239 what they're actually doing, and people just kind of push 888 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:37.639 it away. 889 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:45.159 The chief commander of this world, yep, that's it. Yeah, 890 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:46.679 you can see it in this phase. It's one thing 891 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:48.320 for the listeners to hear it. And I did put 892 00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.360 the show note. I put the link in the show notes. 893 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.800 When you look at his face when he's discussing this, 894 00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:58.239 you can tell that what he truly understands, uh, that 895 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:02.320 he probably didn't make such a great deal after all. 896 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:04.840 Yeah, And I mean I even went on to his website, 897 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.840 and I feel like his sense of drad is even 898 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.000 just pouring out on the ways posting on the internet. 899 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.039 I went on to Bob Dylan's website or whatever, and 900 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.360 there was it was literally on the front page. There 901 00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.159 was like a big thing in quotations and it said, well, 902 00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:19.320 my sense of humanity has always gone down the drain. 903 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:20.840 And I was like, dang, like this guy is just 904 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:21.920 like not having a good time. 905 00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.679 Yeah, if you google like celebrities that have sold their 906 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:29.760 soul to Satan, The biggest one that we talked about 907 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.239 before we hit the record button was the first one 908 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:33.599 was really Robert Johnson. 909 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:36.440 He died young. I think he didn't even make it 910 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:36.920 to thirty. 911 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:40.639 But here's this great American blues musician who he was 912 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.719 the first one who really publicly claimed that he went 913 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.800 to the crossroads sold his soul to Satan. And he 914 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.960 went on to become even though it was short lived, 915 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:51.039 kind of like a Kurt Cobain type of life. 916 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:56.440 He was huge, a great blues guitarist. Then he was gone, Oh. 917 00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.880 Yeah, I mean he's super interesting research. I mean, there's 918 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.679 not a lot there's definitely a lot of evidence about 919 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.960 him selling his soul, but there's there's not too many 920 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.840 photos or anything of him. It's kind of hard to 921 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:09.960 find like documented evidence of like where he went when 922 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.239 he sold his soul. Because here's the thing about Robert Johnson. 923 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.559 People said that he was a They said that he 924 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:17.599 was a horrible musician. Every time that he would play 925 00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:19.920 at like the bars and stuff, like everybody would tell 926 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:21.760 him to stop playing, like he sounded horrible and they 927 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.400 didn't want to play anymore. And then you know, he 928 00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.599 left like two years or something like that, and then 929 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:28.840 he came back and then he was literally like the 930 00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.199 best like musician ever. 931 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:31.880 He was playing. 932 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:34.440 Everybody wanted to play more music, and people were just 933 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.719 like absolutely like astounded about like how much. 934 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:37.119 Better he was. 935 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.760 Yeah, by the way, I'd forgotten he was twenty seven. 936 00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:42.320 He was the first one. He started the twenty seven club. 937 00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.679 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah definitely. 938 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.440 And then of course they mentioned Bob Dylan, who came 939 00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:49.960 public about it. 940 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.519 You just heard. I guess Eminem is another one which 941 00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:54.039 makes sense. 942 00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.480 Oh yeah, there's so much I mean I mean, Eminem 943 00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.159 is still live, so he's not part of the twenty 944 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.480 seven club, but he is. He definitely sold a soul. 945 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.559 And if you just watch his music videos and really 946 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.679 pay attention to lyrics, like that's like the biggest thing 947 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:08.880 that if anybody wants like go out there and research 948 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.679 and stuff, watch the music videos, see the symbolism in 949 00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.079 the videos, and just pay attention to the lyrics and 950 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.119 just decide for the meanings behind it. He has talked 951 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.880 like Eminem specifically has talked about all of this, you know, 952 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.000 satanic deals and everything in his music and like let 953 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.239 like he's talked about like demons attacking him and all 954 00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:25.880 this other stuff. 955 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:28.679 You know, I'm not much. 956 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.440 I've been out of the popular music for quite some 957 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.199 time now, but it's very apparent people like Rihanna, jay Z, 958 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:40.400 and Kanye West obviously are all Lady Gaga is a 959 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:44.679 big one too. Yet these are the people who sell 960 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.360 number one albums. People pay money to go to their concerts, 961 00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:50.960 and I always say it's interesting that people pay for 962 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.679 their own demise, whether it's watching Netflix or going to 963 00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.159 these And here's the thing. When you go to whether 964 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.840 it's jay Z or Lady Gaga or Rihanna. These aren't concerts. 965 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.000 These are what's the word I'm looking. 966 00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.079 For, the ritual. 967 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.159 Rituals, thank you? Just like the one the one that 968 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:10.960 happened down your neck of the woods to the east. 969 00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.599 I think it was in Houston. What was the thing 970 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.480 where you walked in through the mouth and there was 971 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:18.800 people got killed trampled a couple of years ago. 972 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:20.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was Travis Scott. 973 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.280 That was yeah, yeah, Travis Scott. Yeah, that was very 974 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:28.119 satanic walking in through the mouth, like wow. 975 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.679 And circling back to Bob Dylan relating to that in 976 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.800 his In Bob Dylan's music video Jokerman, he literally has 977 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.719 like symbolic biblical imagery of like the big mouth and 978 00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:39.639 like people walking. 979 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.679 Into it like that's in that music video. Really yeah, 980 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:43.320 there's so much. 981 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.599 I mean, I would definitely encourage people to definitely watch 982 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.480 that Jokerman music video after they listen to podcast this. 983 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.920 It's super interesting the lyrics, the symbolism, everything, and just 984 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:54.599 you can just kind of see on his face as 985 00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:57.119 you singing the song, just you can see. 986 00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.039 All of the meaning and the deep like emotion behind 987 00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:01.599 what he's singing. 988 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:04.760 Oh wow, Yeah, I have it on my computer here. 989 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:06.239 The symbology is crazy. 990 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.159 Oh yeah, the same thing with what was that? 991 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.599 The Oh this is also a big one for Paul's Dead, 992 00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:14.639 Matt I used to be. I'm still big into it too, 993 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.880 but I was super big into Paul's Dead for a while. 994 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:21.679 But the Paul's Dead music video What was It? Eighteen 995 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.840 eighty two music video by Billy Shears, That is a 996 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:29.239 super interesting one. The lyrics and more so the symbolic 997 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:30.119 imagery in that video. 998 00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:31.800 There's it literally shows a photo of Paul. 999 00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:34.159 McCartney's like the capitated hit because they killed them, right. 1000 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.760 But I mean even even besides that, there's just so 1001 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:41.440 much imagery and symbolism in that video to talk about, 1002 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.440 like what happened to Paul? They show all these ex 1003 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:47.599 free Mason, the cult rituals and satanic things and all that. 1004 00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.199 That's definitely really interesting video. It's the eighteen eighty two 1005 00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:50.880 music video. 1006 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:56.199 Have you ever seen the interview where Ringo calls Paul Billy? 1007 00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:58.679 Oh yeah, I've seen all that. 1008 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.360 Like he calls them billy. 1009 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.960 You know, they have people just coming on to like 1010 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:05.559 like interviews or whatever, and they'll literally be like, hey, Billy, 1011 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.400 what's up, like everybody's calling him Billy, so like everybody 1012 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:10.119 knows the secret, you know, they're all in the secret 1013 00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:13.039 group together, so it's it's really interesting. And then also 1014 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.679 going back to Billy Shears, I think he had like 1015 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:18.960 he was somebody was like filming him while he was 1016 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.400 on like a track. I think he had like a farm, 1017 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.079 so he was like driving his track or whatever on 1018 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.119 his farm. And then he was like, well, when you 1019 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.719 think about it, I never really started a band before, 1020 00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:28.679 so I didn't know how to do it. And obviously 1021 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.440 he didn't start bank because that's Billy Shears. But Paul 1022 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.760 McCartney did start a band. If you just watched all 1023 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:35.480 these videos of you know, the Billy Shears guy, there's 1024 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:37.880 so much evidence of been talking about like yeah, like 1025 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.400 I feel like I'm two different people, like you know, 1026 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:42.760 like one of this person is like a famous person, 1027 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:44.320 the other one is like living a lie or like 1028 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.079 he has some sort of videos talking about that kind 1029 00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.559 of stuff. Like there's it's very interesting to research like 1030 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:56.000 different interviews and and just like music videos from Billy Shears. 1031 00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:58.920 Yeah for sure. Can I play this clip real quick 1032 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:00.000 for the listeners? 1033 00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:00.320 Yes? 1034 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:06.360 All right, Yeah, of course there's a five second dramatic entrance. 1035 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.519 It's Ringo star unmasks and the. 1036 00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:17.000 Music was always more important than anything else to me personally. 1037 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.239 You'll have to ask the other two personally. Funny when 1038 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.519 you say that, now, you know, it's so new to 1039 00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:26.920 me that I always sort of it clogs you up 1040 00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.559 of it, and you know, because you're sold glimpse. 1041 00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:30.920 We'll ask the other three. 1042 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:34.079 Now we can only ask two, which is a dragon 1043 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.400 into winning. But I'm sure he's okay. 1044 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.920 He just said Ryan would have mentioned it right, would 1045 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.320 have just right if a manager would have just said, oh, 1046 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:47.880 you know, and this show is segregated, there'll be black 1047 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.960 people over here and there'll be white people over here, 1048 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:50.519 and we went. 1049 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:51.960 Now we've played. 1050 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.360 So he's joking, you know, for us, you know, as musicians. 1051 00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:56.679 So I'll put that clip in there. 1052 00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:00.480 You'll see the clip see Ringo calls Paul Billy on 1053 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:07.000 multiple times. Yeah, and for the listeners, go ahead, go ahead, okay. 1054 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:07.280 Yeah. 1055 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:11.480 Also in the Strawberry Fields music video, if you listen 1056 00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:15.039 to that, I mean also again likelogy, like the symbology, 1057 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.719 the imagery, and it is really interesting as well. 1058 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.159 But more so the lyrics at the end of the song. 1059 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.199 As the song fades out, you can literally, I don't 1060 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:23.840 know if it's Ringo or who, but you can literally 1061 00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:26.800 hear one of the beatles any saying Paul is dead 1062 00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:28.280 or no no. I think it sing like I killed 1063 00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.079 Paul or Paul is dead or something like that. But 1064 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.679 it's like you can hear it as the as the 1065 00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:34.920 as the song is like fading out, you can literally 1066 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:36.440 hear that lyric in the end of the song. 1067 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:37.280 It's pretty interesting. 1068 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.599 Yeah, And it might have even been the Strawberry Fields Forever. 1069 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.039 I could be wrong, right by the way, when I 1070 00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:44.840 was talking about Wall Street, it was New York City, 1071 00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:50.039 not Washington, DC. But I think it was the Strawberry 1072 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.679 Fields Forever music video where Paul starts playing it right 1073 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.039 handed and then he switches the guitar around and plays 1074 00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:56.760 it left handed. 1075 00:47:57.840 --> 00:47:58.679 Yeah. Yeah. 1076 00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:01.239 And then also after they killed Paul and they replaced 1077 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.719 him with Billy Shears, there's these photos of them with 1078 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.239 I think it was Jane Asher, who was Paul's girlfriend 1079 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.079 at the time, because I think they were trying to 1080 00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:10.760 keep up that image of you know, him still being 1081 00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:12.559 alive or whatever for a while, and then you know, 1082 00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:16.840 they kind of I think Jane Asher left or stopped 1083 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:17.480 kind of hanging. 1084 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:18.119 Out with the Beatles and stuff. 1085 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.000 But there's a photo of Billy Shares with Jane Asher 1086 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.559 and he's literally like three inches taller when it's Billy 1087 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:26.840 Shears compared to whin it's Paul McCartney. Like, there's there's 1088 00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.320 physical I mean, there's hype differences. There's massive differences in 1089 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.079 his facial features and the way that he you know, 1090 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:33.639 he plays his music with the left handers in the 1091 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:35.280 right hand like it's super interesting. 1092 00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.880 Yeah, and for those who may not be familiar with 1093 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:42.559 this that there is a theory that well, it's not 1094 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:44.920 a theory. Paul was in a car accident. I think 1095 00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:51.599 it was August or September of nineteen sixty six, and yeah, 1096 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.840 you know, people claim out was just an accident. He 1097 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.039 was fine, but many people leave and there's there's a 1098 00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:59.719 lot of interesting evidence all around it that he passed. 1099 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.159 And of course, when you have a machine like the Beatles, 1100 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.079 part of it is because of the money, part of 1101 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:09.719 it was because of more just kind of to distract 1102 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.559 away from what was going on in the world with 1103 00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:13.960 Vietnam and the civil rights movement and all of that. 1104 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:17.639 But there was one other thing that doesn't get talked 1105 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:20.719 about too much. If I remember McCartney had crashed his 1106 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.880 mopett he was driving around in the year before in 1107 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:26.960 sixty five, and he actually chipped his tooth, and yeah, 1108 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:28.440 when you go forward, all. 1109 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:29.840 Of a sudden his chip tooth was gone. 1110 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.599 And there's kind of like biden and his body doubles. 1111 00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.679 There's some significant differences with his ear and his nose 1112 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:41.199 and things of that nature. Wasn't it didn't They hold 1113 00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:45.519 in Louisiana or somewhere like a lookalike contest, a Paul 1114 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.079 McCartney look like contest, and that's where they pulled off from. 1115 00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.199 They did do that, Yeah, and then that's where they 1116 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.599 got I think, Well, he kind of goes by two names. 1117 00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:56.440 People call him William Campbell and then also Billy Shears. 1118 00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.840 But yeah, so that's where he found where they found 1119 00:49:58.920 --> 00:49:59.280 him at. 1120 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.199 But there's a book called, oh gosh, what was it? 1121 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.639 Oh yeah, The Memoirs of Billy Shears. 1122 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:06.360 I have that book. 1123 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.360 It's very good. It's so dense, like it's a It's 1124 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.760 just has so much information in it. There's like hidden 1125 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.840 clues all throughout the book and like you you literally 1126 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.079 have to like decipher it, Like there's so much interesting 1127 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.000 information in there. But I think that that book was 1128 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:24.360 partially written by the guy who published, like the actual author, 1129 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.960 but also partially published by Billy Shears. And he talks 1130 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:29.760 about it and like it's like in the first person, 1131 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.599 he's like, this is what we did with the Beatles 1132 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:35.760 and everything, And I honestly don't know, Like I don't 1133 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.800 think that Billy Shears is really trying to hide what 1134 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.000 he did because he's literally given so many clues and 1135 00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.119 so much evidence that's like what actually happened, and he'll 1136 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.639 really talk about And also if you just read that book, 1137 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.159 The Memoirs of Billy Shears, like he kind of talks 1138 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:52.760 about how like he kind of feels bad about what 1139 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.079 happened and he wants to tell people, but he doesn't 1140 00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:56.599 want to get killed, you know, Like he kind of 1141 00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:58.920 like comes out and just like exposes the whole thing. So, 1142 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.800 I mean, that's the super good book if you want 1143 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.559 to get really into the whole pology Dad and everything. 1144 00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:06.719 There's there's a lot of good information in there. 1145 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:11.719 Are you talking about the book The Memoirs of Billy Shears? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1146 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:15.599 And in parentheses it says the Memoirs of Paul McCartney. 1147 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:17.760 Oh really, I didn't know that. 1148 00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:21.440 Yeah, it's a very very highly rated book on Amazon. 1149 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:24.079 They've sold a lot, and it's you're right, and and 1150 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:26.840 listen that those clues not just in that book, but 1151 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:31.400 there's clues all over their music. That one track on 1152 00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.119 Revolution nine that says turned me on dead Man. And 1153 00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:41.119 there was a radio DJ from the sixties who suggested 1154 00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:43.559 that Paul is dead theory, and I think he was 1155 00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:45.599 an insider who kind of let it out. And then 1156 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:48.599 they continue to, like you said, leave hints on album 1157 00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:50.960 covers within the music and the videos. 1158 00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.239 Oh yeah, the album covers were a huge disclosure for 1159 00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.079 all of that. And also even just going back to 1160 00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:00.519 you know, all of this like satanic you know, stuff 1161 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:03.079 in the music industry. If you look at the album 1162 00:52:03.159 --> 00:52:06.639 cover for what was it, Lonely No No, Sargeant Tepper's 1163 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.039 Lonehearts Club band. You know, they have all these people 1164 00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:10.360 on the cover and everything, like the you know, the 1165 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:12.440 whole Beatles, like the whole band and everything, but they 1166 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:14.840 also have Alistair Crowley in the background. It's like, why 1167 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.920 is he there supposed to get music band? Why is 1168 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.840 Alistair Crowley on the album cover of a Beatles. 1169 00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:23.119 Like album exactly exactly, and and the theory goes that 1170 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:28.079 the Beatles felt guilty about hiding the truth swapping out McCartney. 1171 00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:32.360 And I think one of the biggest evidences is the 1172 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.519 Abbey Road album and they're all in step, they're left foot, 1173 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.960 they're left foot forward, their right leg back, with the 1174 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.679 exception of Paul who's right leg forward, left leg is back, 1175 00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:43.760 and he's not wearing a shoe. 1176 00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.679 Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, that's that's a huge one. 1177 00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:52.320 Yeah, it's it's a heck of an ex I I 1178 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.599 tend to believe it. It was actually my sister who 1179 00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:56.760 told me about it years ago, and it was one 1180 00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:00.800 of them things like, yeah, okay, yeah, how could they 1181 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:01.039 do that? 1182 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:01.880 How could they hide that? 1183 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.760 And then you take, like I always do, you take 1184 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.039 the evidence, you take what you think is not evidence, 1185 00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.679 and you weigh against each other. And I think it 1186 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:14.000 was seventy five percent led to it was a conspiracy 1187 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:16.800 and twenty five percent evidence that it was just a 1188 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.480 made up story. So I'm three quarters of the way 1189 00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.599 believing that it was probably the a conspiracy. 1190 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.039 And he actually died in that accident. 1191 00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:28.519 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean he was definitely killed. And 1192 00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.039 they've had professional facial like analysts or you know people 1193 00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:34.840 can like you know, like decide, you know, like they've 1194 00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:39.599 had professionals basically analyze the differences between, like the facial 1195 00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.360 differences between Paul McCartney and Billie Shears, and they have concluded, 1196 00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.840 like every single time that it's completely one hundred percent 1197 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.639 without it out a different person. And then people, I mean, 1198 00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:51.079 you show us to people and they're like, I mean, 1199 00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:52.840 I don't know, it kind of looks different, college saying, 1200 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.719 but it's like he literally he has a different nose, 1201 00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:56.679 he has different like you know, marks on his face, 1202 00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:59.480 like different molds, like he has different like it's different everything. 1203 00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:02.920 He's tall, his teeth are different. There's a complete difference 1204 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.440 in the facial features. And obviously, you know, they tried 1205 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.519 to give Billy Shares, like you know, facial surgery and 1206 00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.199 everything to make him look you know, more like Paul 1207 00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:10.039 McCartney to make. 1208 00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:10.840 It more believable. 1209 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:13.320 But even even with that, like he still looks like 1210 00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.119 a completely different person. And his all his mannerisms are 1211 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:18.760 different as well. He acts different, he talks different, he 1212 00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:20.960 moves his hands differently, you know, if you look at 1213 00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.760 the interviews from you know, before sixty six versus after 1214 00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.719 sixty six, even just his mannerisms alone, like, it looks 1215 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:28.079 like it's a completely different. 1216 00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.159 Person one hundred percent. 1217 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.079 And back in the sixties into the seventies, backward masking 1218 00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.280 was a big thing. And oh yeah back now, yeah, yeah, 1219 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.360 big time. And when I was eighties, you know, our 1220 00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.800 church would talk about it, I'd roll my eyes like yeah, yeah, yeah, 1221 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:44.880 and I didn't really believe it. And then as I 1222 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:46.840 got older and you take the time to research it 1223 00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.119 is a big deal. Stairway to Heaven from led Zeppelin 1224 00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.079 has a lot of back masking in it, but Strawberry 1225 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:56.119 Fields Forever contained a backward message that said I buried Paul, 1226 00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:00.000 and oh yeah, the song I'm So Tired says Paul 1227 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:02.400 is dead. Miss him, miss him, miss him? 1228 00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:04.519 Mm hmm. Yeah. 1229 00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.800 The backpassing is huge, especially one like you're saying, starre 1230 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:09.960 to Haven't. I've listened to back masking on that like 1231 00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.239 a whole bunch of times. It's just really interesting to 1232 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:13.840 kind of kind of hear what they're talking about. And 1233 00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:15.679 even if you just played the song normal, like for 1234 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:17.079 like and like how it's. 1235 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:17.679 Supposed to be played. 1236 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:22.440 The lyrics they're they're so symbolic, even just even if 1237 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.880 you just listen to the song normally, I. 1238 00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:29.119 Wonder if AI if it will AI? Yes, AI can 1239 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.440 be used to reverse or bass mask how do you fall? 1240 00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:33.960 So I'm gonna have to try that. AI apparently now 1241 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:35.960 can just play it backwards for you and you can 1242 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:37.280 listen to it. Back in the day, I had a 1243 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:39.599 big record and I'd just spin it backwards. 1244 00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:40.960 To listen to it. Uh. 1245 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:42.880 But yeah, with technology, you don't have to do that 1246 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:47.000 stuff anymore. What were the other subjects that you had 1247 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:48.360 noted that you wanted to discuss. 1248 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:53.639 Well, I remember that there was one other music artists 1249 00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:56.639 that I wanted to talk about. So this is going 1250 00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:58.559 to be probably like the younger audience. I don't know 1251 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:00.639 what the age range of people who listen to podcast, 1252 00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.400 but I'm an eighteen year old and one of the 1253 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:05.280 artists that I like to listen to, even though you know, 1254 00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:06.800 he definitely sold a soul and it kind of talks 1255 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:08.840 about bad stuff, but I enjoy listening to his music. 1256 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.760 I think it's fun. But he died when he was 1257 00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:13.320 twenty one. His name is a little Peep. So that 1258 00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.039 was like a rapper music artist from like early like no, 1259 00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.000 not like early. I was like twenty seventeen, like twenty 1260 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:21.079 fifteen kind of era. So he had a song and 1261 00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.960 the name of a song was called It's called Problems, 1262 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.599 and I was listening to the lyrics on one. I 1263 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.519 was listening to the lyrics on that song, and one 1264 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:32.679 of the lyrics was I sold my soul to the Devil. 1265 00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:34.679 And I'm like, it's literally right in front of our Facebook. 1266 00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:36.239 We don't even have to like pay attention. It's like 1267 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:37.000 it's really right. 1268 00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:37.800 There in the lyrics. 1269 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.039 And then another part of the song was like saying 1270 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:42.079 like take what the devil offers, and I was like, man, 1271 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:42.599 like this. 1272 00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:43.079 Is so bad. 1273 00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.000 Like I enjoy listening to the music, but probably shouldn't 1274 00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:45.599 be listening to this. 1275 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.639 So I've you'll be shocked to know that I've never 1276 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:53.599 heard a Little Peep. But I pulled up his wiki 1277 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.199 page and I want to read this and see what 1278 00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:59.639 number pops out to you. On November fifteenth, twenty seventeen, 1279 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:02.400 to before his twenty first birthday, my goodness, he was young. 1280 00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:06.280 Little Peep died on his tour bus before a scheduled 1281 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:10.599 performance in Tucson, his second to last scheduled show on 1282 00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.400 his thirty three date tour in the United States. 1283 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:15.519 Thirty three. 1284 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:19.119 Every single time, every single time, thirty three they're saying 1285 00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:21.599 he died of fentanyl. 1286 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:23.400 Well, they said he died of a drug overdose. 1287 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.679 Yeah, but you know they said he was given like 1288 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:27.599 lace drugs by a fan or something. And he was 1289 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.079 definitely big in the drugs and all that, you know, 1290 00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:31.559 him being a rapper and everything. But personally, every time 1291 00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.840 I see these people, you know, they they they talk 1292 00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:38.320 about selling their soul to the devil, and it's obvious 1293 00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.119 through the way that they live, their lifestyle and their 1294 00:57:40.199 --> 00:57:42.400 lyrics and everything they talk about, and they give good 1295 00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:42.800 amount of. 1296 00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:43.360 Evidence for it. 1297 00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:45.280 All these people that die at twenty one years old, 1298 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.239 like they'll give some excuse for it, just like they 1299 00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:48.599 did like Judice World, like, oh, we had a season 1300 00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:50.880 on an airport. But it's like now, like the devil 1301 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:52.679 came to collect his soul, that's why he died. 1302 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.480 Like, you know, that's what I believe. 1303 00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:59.599 That is interesting. He's got quite the bio. I'm gonna 1304 00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:03.079 have to do and research into him, because yeah, there 1305 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:09.280 are a lot of very interesting things. Other than just 1306 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:13.320 the thirty three, there's a lot of I think they 1307 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:14.880 put a lot of these people when they put them 1308 00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.960 out on the world stage. They like to push Yeah, 1309 00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:22.519 I have anxiety, I have depression, bipolar, and he I 1310 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:27.599 guess he had suicidal tendencies as well. And some of 1311 00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:31.440 the music and some of the lyrics, Man, this is 1312 00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:36.639 this guy. They had him on everything ten X plus 1313 00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:38.599 all the drugs he was taken. He must have been 1314 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:39.880 a very confused young man. 1315 00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:43.079 Oh yeah, And it's definitely evident. 1316 00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:45.639 There's lyrics like I listened to it, but it's I mean, 1317 00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:49.840 I know that music, like it signs. 1318 00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:51.000 Out frequencies to your brain. 1319 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:52.639 Like if you listen that stuff like all the time, 1320 00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.559 it'll it'll kind of make you like start to think 1321 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:57.000 down and believe it. Like people that listen to this 1322 00:58:57.079 --> 00:58:58.559 music and they don't really kind of give. 1323 00:58:58.480 --> 00:58:59.159 It a second thought. 1324 00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.239 It just goes into their conscious brain and then it 1325 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.480 turns on their conscious brain and then what the lyrics 1326 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:05.519 are saying, like that's how they feel. And that's a 1327 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.840 huge problem in today's society, is just all of these negative, 1328 00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.920 demonic lyrics and just drugs and anxiety and all this 1329 00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.400 like other stuff like it's affecting people in a very 1330 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:15.920 negative way. 1331 00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:17.199 Yeah. I agree. 1332 00:59:17.199 --> 00:59:19.280 That's something I had to consciously make a difference in 1333 00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.159 my life. And it was one of the more I mean, 1334 00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:23.199 I'm not gonna be dramatic, but it was you know, 1335 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:26.360 listening to music my entire life and understanding finally that 1336 00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:32.480 it was actually having negative connotations and working subconsciously. I 1337 00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.280 do believe that when you sing, you're chanting certain things. 1338 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.360 And going back to like you said, some of these 1339 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:42.480 concerts being rituals and you are emoting certain things, whether 1340 00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:47.119 it's spiritually or or mentally, that have negative connotations. And 1341 00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:49.320 it's one of those things I had to break myself of. 1342 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:53.239 And it's just a fact. We're in a war and 1343 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.960 they use everything against us, whether it's food, whether it's 1344 00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.760 spraying us, whether it's the fluor ride in the water. 1345 00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.039 The movie is we watch and certainly the music we listen. 1346 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.840 To, Oh yeah for sure. And I mean, you know, 1347 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:06.800 when Lucifer was in heaven, he was he was the 1348 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:08.599 angel of music. I think in the Bible said he 1349 01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.920 had like you know, some like musical elements like carved 1350 01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:14.159 into his body or like you know, something like that. 1351 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:16.440 He was literally like a musical being and then he 1352 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:18.639 you know, comes down to Earth after he fell from heaven, 1353 01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:20.199 and then he's just going to take over that whole 1354 01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:21.559 that whole industry basically. 1355 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:23.199 Yeah. 1356 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.280 I think it's in the Book of Ezekiel talking about 1357 01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:27.719 where he mentions the tabrits and pipes in his creation. 1358 01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:29.440 Yeah. 1359 01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:31.760 Yeah, that is interesting. And again. 1360 01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:36.840 The correlation of many people in the music industry who 1361 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:41.519 were noted as being horrible musicians all of a sudden, 1362 01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:44.559 within a very short period of time, be becoming world 1363 01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:48.199 class musicians. Is it impossible not? I guess if you 1364 01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.400 work hard enough. But more times than not, there's something 1365 01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:56.119 more nefarious and deep about the conspiracy itself. 1366 01:00:57.519 --> 01:00:58.760 Oh yeah, definitely for sure. 1367 01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:02.280 Yeah, kind of said something go ahead, Okay. 1368 01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:05.159 Also something that I found about. I think I was 1369 01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.920 talking to about this before we started the podcast, but 1370 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:09.679 I don't know if you could find the video, but 1371 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.119 there's that video of I'm talking about him going to the. 1372 01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:13.360 Crossroads and selling his soul. 1373 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:15.599 If maybe if you could pull that up, I think 1374 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:16.760 that would be kind of cool so we could put 1375 01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:17.400 it on the podcast. 1376 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:18.719 Which one are you talk about? 1377 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:23.400 It's talking about him going to the crossroads, because that 1378 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.840 the one from the sixty minutes was him talking about 1379 01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:27.760 making like a deal with the chief commander. But there's 1380 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:30.119 a separate video talking about him going. 1381 01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:30.599 To the crossroads. 1382 01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.440 Oh Dylan, okay, gotcha? 1383 01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:36.679 Yeah yeah Dylan, Yeah, I think this is it. 1384 01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:38.679 Yeah, you need to be on. 1385 01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:49.679 So. 1386 01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:51.199 I don't know if this is a song or not, 1387 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.360 but it's talking about on the junction of US sixty 1388 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:56.559 one a US forty nine in clarks Delle, Mississippi. So 1389 01:01:56.760 --> 01:02:01.440 he's actually talking about is this the song crossroads? I 1390 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:03.760 guess where he's talking about. He actually writes the song 1391 01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:06.000 about Robert Johnson sold his soul. 1392 01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:08.360 I think, well, that is a good one. 1393 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.000 But the one I was referring to is it's actually 1394 01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:14.480 an interview and he's like, yeah, like I went. 1395 01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:15.119 To the crossroads. 1396 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:15.679 Oh here it is. 1397 01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:22.000 I feel like, yeah, that's when I went to the 1398 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.360 crossroads and made a big deal, you know, like. 1399 01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:33.079 Yeah, one one night and then uh way back to Minneapolis, 1400 01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:36.400 and I was like, hey, where's this guy man? Yeah, 1401 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:38.239 he went to the crossrows. 1402 01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:41.800 So there you go. 1403 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:47.039 Yep, it's it's right in our face and people will 1404 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:52.199 put that aside and still and it should be noted 1405 01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:55.559 that guy does probably the least amount of videos of 1406 01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:58.519 any musician that that is of his caliber. 1407 01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:00.639 He is a very posited guy. 1408 01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:09.119 Oh yeah, there we go, great stuff. Segue back and 1409 01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:11.679 finish up with the flat Earth. I would say to 1410 01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:16.840 you if you've had any successes with sharing the flat Earth. 1411 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:18.239 I know a lot of people in your age group 1412 01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.559 are obviously busy with a lot of other different things. 1413 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:26.480 But going forward, if you were to present it to 1414 01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:32.039 whether it's family or friends, I guess the question I'm 1415 01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:35.679 trying to ask is, are you more of a breadcrumb guy? 1416 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:39.000 What facts are you presentable? Have you thought about, like 1417 01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:43.000 in certain ways that you should present this particular evidence 1418 01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:43.480 to others? 1419 01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:47.719 Well, definitely with my family. 1420 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:50.760 I mean sometimes, you know, we're sitting around the dinner 1421 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:54.880 table and I'll kind of talk about like little breadcrumb 1422 01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:56.800 stuff like I'll kind of talk about like you know, 1423 01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:59.880 certain like elites or something like that, or like, hey, 1424 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:01.480 this musician just died. 1425 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:02.320 You know, I'm kind of. 1426 01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:04.559 Interesting to look into the part of the twenty one club, 1427 01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:06.480 or just like stuff about like. 1428 01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:08.840 Jewish people doing stuff. So I'll kind of. 1429 01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.960 Talk about like smaller things like that in hopes that 1430 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.840 they can kind of like find it interesting and research 1431 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:16.840 it and look into that and kind of research on 1432 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.320 their own. But I mean, I honestly don't really know 1433 01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:20.760 what I would say if I was to just flat 1434 01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:22.559 out like bring it up to somebody that didn't believe 1435 01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:24.679 in any of this stuff, because you know, I don't 1436 01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:26.760 want people like to think I'm crazy or whatever. It's 1437 01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:29.639 it's really just like there's so much evidence. You know, 1438 01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:31.599 if you start researching it, you're gonna find out the truth. 1439 01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:34.760 So I honestly don't really bring it up to too 1440 01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:38.039 many like people that don't believe in it. But I 1441 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.599 mean the ways that I have found people that do 1442 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:44.519 believe in this stuff, Like I mean, this year, going 1443 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:46.760 to this new high school, I've probably found about maybe 1444 01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.679 like two new friends like at the school that are 1445 01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:53.840 no actually actually three, Like they're super Christian. 1446 01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:54.920 They believe in all that stuff. 1447 01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:57.719 They believe in the firmament like the Bible, flatter everything, 1448 01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:59.800 and they know all this stuff like the Holocaust, like 1449 01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:02.960 the US and everything. So and the way that I've 1450 01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:04.719 kind of like figured that out, I haven't really just 1451 01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:06.880 like flat out said it to them, but we'll be 1452 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.440 talking and then maybe like like Okay. I was literally 1453 01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:12.320 I think this was like a month or two ago. 1454 01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:17.559 I was at this club and then I met some 1455 01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:19.320 guys there, and then they were driving me back home, 1456 01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:22.119 and then I was talking about this steroid it's called 1457 01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:25.079 MK six seven seven, and then one of them was like, oh, 1458 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:26.719 like MK ultra, and I was like, what do you 1459 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.599 know about MK ultra? And then that kind of like 1460 01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.280 led into the conversation about them like talking about all 1461 01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:33.400 the stuff that they believe in, and then it'll be like, yeah, 1462 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:35.679 like I actually believe in that too. So whenever I 1463 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:38.039 kind of like discover other people that believe in this stuff, 1464 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:40.760 it'll it'll kind of just like happen by chance or coincidence, 1465 01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:43.000 or maybe they'll, you know, they'll bring some sort of 1466 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.480 like smaller conspiracy theory up and then I'll work it 1467 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:47.880 up into like the larger stuff to kind of see 1468 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:48.679 what they believe in. 1469 01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:50.199 So that's kind of how I do it. 1470 01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:52.239 Yeah, that's a smart plan too, to bring it in 1471 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:57.119 through through other means. Isn't it also a bit of evidence? 1472 01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:01.360 You wouldn't you say this is evidence just the way 1473 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.079 that it's been deemed to taboo that by the powers 1474 01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.079 that be, like how is it that we can have 1475 01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:09.960 a conversation with anybody in our family, any friend, you know, 1476 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:11.880 asking do you think the moon landing was faked? And 1477 01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:13.519 they're not going to think twice about it. They're not 1478 01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:15.880 going to look down upon you or anything else. But 1479 01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:19.159 you know, if you bring up the flat earth, which 1480 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.280 is a flat was a direct correlation to that question, 1481 01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:26.920 where you will be you know, just looked at as 1482 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.880 you know, what is wrong with you? Doesn't that isn't 1483 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.840 that evidence? Doesn't that go to show how much effort 1484 01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:33.639 they put into this? 1485 01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.039 Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, it's crazy. They're trying to 1486 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:41.039 manipulate the whole you know, dynamic around it so people 1487 01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:44.719 don't have open and free, like genuine discussion about it 1488 01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:45.960 and can figure these things out. 1489 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:46.800 Yeah, it's crazy. 1490 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:49.039 You tell somebody we live on a flat plane and 1491 01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:52.519 we're circled by an arctic wall that holds in an 1492 01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.199 antarctic wall that holds in the water, you're crazy. But 1493 01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.039 if you say we're spinning at one thousand miles an hour, 1494 01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.719 we're circling the sun at sixty seven thousand miles an hour, 1495 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:03.360 or moving through the universe at four hundred and eighty 1496 01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:04.599 three one thousand miles per hour. 1497 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:06.119 Well you're a smart guy. 1498 01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:08.920 Yeah. 1499 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.239 And then also the people that believe that they don't 1500 01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:13.119 even know the numbers of the statistics or anything, and 1501 01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:14.760 they're like a lot of you know, like I learned 1502 01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:16.320 it in school. And then you bring up like the 1503 01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:18.719 you know, I think it's like, what is it zero 1504 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.519 point eight inches per miles square? It's like supposed to 1505 01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:22.679 be the curvature of the earth. 1506 01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:24.840 Right, yep, uh huh, Yeah. 1507 01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:26.079 You bring that up to them and then they'll be 1508 01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.119 like they don't even know like the numbers or anything. 1509 01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:30.559 And they're like like you've told them that, and then 1510 01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.199 you show them like long distance photography and then I 1511 01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:36.920 don't know, it's just they don't they're just so brainwashed 1512 01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:40.400 and they just kind of school just completely just destroys 1513 01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:42.679 their critical thinking skills, and they just they just do 1514 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:43.280 what they're told. 1515 01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:44.920 It's just crazy. Yep. 1516 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.719 And if you do have this conversation with someone who 1517 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.440 is biblical, someone who follows Christ, I always like to 1518 01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:54.360 let people know, don't remember the Book of John and 1519 01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:57.320 Ephesians that it's clearly written that Satan is the prince 1520 01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.599 of this world, which we've played several times on this 1521 01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.960 podcast already people admitting that. And what is Satan's most 1522 01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:03.679 powerful tool. 1523 01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:07.199 It's to see. Simple, Yeah, plain and simple. It's to see. 1524 01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:12.360 And then also I'm sorry y'all cover this on the 1525 01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:14.599 podcast before, but just one of the one of the 1526 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.960 scriptures that is super like pro flatters in the Bible, 1527 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:20.439 there's really convincing to me, was where it says the 1528 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:22.840 earth takes form like like. 1529 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.199 Clay heel or something like that. 1530 01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:25.680 Yeah. 1531 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.479 Yeah, that one's pretty convincing because when you when you 1532 01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:30.920 look at like a photo of what that looks like, 1533 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:32.319 you just look it up, it's like it literally looks 1534 01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:34.399 like a flat plane with like you know, like a 1535 01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:35.399 wall surrounding it. 1536 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:38.840 Absolutely. Book of Joe Joe thirty eight fourteen. It has 1537 01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.000 changed like clay under the seal, and its features stand 1538 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:41.760 out like a garment. 1539 01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:44.760 Great stuff. 1540 01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:47.680 Great, It's been an amazing interview. If there's anything else 1541 01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:49.279 you wanted to touch on, that would be a great time. 1542 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:50.760 Otherwise I'll give you the final word. 1543 01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:54.319 Yeah. No, definitely has been a great interview. 1544 01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:57.159 I don't think that there's really anything else I had online, but. 1545 01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:01.560 Yeah, yeah, I really enjoy talking to you about the 1546 01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.520 music side because a lot of people aren't aware or 1547 01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:06.720 they've heard of them and never thought twice about it. 1548 01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:10.359 But Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, and that the people who 1549 01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:14.760 were presented to us high you know, as people we 1550 01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:18.600 should admire and follow. In many cases we should be 1551 01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:21.359 doing the exact opposite. And we have to remember what 1552 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.319 Psalms one eighteen eight says, trust in God, not in man, 1553 01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:28.960 and that another thing that Satan does, other than deceive, 1554 01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:32.199 is to bring out a form of idolatry. And people 1555 01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:35.239 do follow these people, whether it was Elvis or led 1556 01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:37.880 Zeppelin or the Beatles, it is a form of idolatry. 1557 01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:38.760 Would you agree with that? 1558 01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:41.800 Yeah? 1559 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:42.399 Great stuff. 1560 01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:44.800 Well, Austin, thank you so much for your time in 1561 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:46.720 joining us today. Wish you all the best in your 1562 01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:49.119 future whatever you decide to do. If you'd like to 1563 01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:52.119 reach out to Austin his email addresses in the show notes. 1564 01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:55.600 God bless everyone. Thank you for your continued support of 1565 01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.119 this podcast and for Austin. 1566 01:09:57.720 --> 01:09:59.159 I'm George. God bless you all. 1567 01:09:59.159 --> 01:10:00.800 I hope you have a wonderful a week and until 1568 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.239 we meet again, my friends, we will see that. 1569 01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:12.760 I know it's been a strugne I know you've had Spain. 1570 01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:17.239 I'm not feeling tired. 1571 01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:21.479 Hell down all the way. 1572 01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:28.960 Yeah, I know you feeling you smile ain't the same. 1573 01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:34.039 That's all we're to go from here. 1574 01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:35.640 I feel like. 1575 01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:39.920 You've lost your way. 1576 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:43.680 Don't give it, No, don't give it. 1577 01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:48.079 But never this home. Don't let call the primise. 1578 01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:50.079 It ain't done yet. 1579 01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:51.479 He's got I'm glad. 1580 01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:53.119 Why it's away? 1581 01:10:53.359 --> 01:11:11.159 Time got up? Maybe we come? Why wait, God, mcor, I. 1582 01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:18.920 Can see the street beside you. Childs are putting up five. Oh, 1583 01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:23.920 you're stronger than a thing you are. Yeah, you're gonna 1584 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:29.159 be all right. You're accepting a dead folio. 1585 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:33.079 Beautiful. You're shoving ride. 1586 01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:37.960 Yeah, you're living, breathing, moveing. 1587 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:43.000 You can hold your head a pie. 1588 01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:50.159 Don't give up, No, don't give in, nevertheless, hold, don't 1589 01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:55.600 let gone on the primis me ain't Donion's god, I'm letting. 1590 01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:59.880 WHA's the way down? The God of Merica. 1591 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:04.920 We don't give up. No, don't give in. You never 1592 01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:08.079 lis home, don't let go on the primis. 1593 01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:10.159 It ain't NiFe. 1594 01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:14.680 It's worth living. What's a play down? The god of 1595 01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:16.239 baby Colt. 1596 01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:21.640 Why sur pray now? 1597 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:29.640 The god of steam cold? Oh yeah, what's a pray down. 1598 01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:40.239 The God of baby colt Oh, yeah, got TV cold? 1599 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:53.960 Oh, don't give up, No, don't give in. Never do 1600 01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:58.800 they go on the primis I mean and thens God 1601 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:05.279 I'm saying, waits, God of if it colls, don't. 1602 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:10.520 Give up, no, dog giving never al, don't let go 1603 01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:17.319 of the trimes getting done, lovers for living watcher. 1604 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:21.680 And God of any cols. 1605 01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:36.199 Ah, the God of needs. Whaits do God of any case. 1606 01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:46.279 You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. 1607 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:50.680 Just the facts, ma'am.