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Speaker 5: Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It is
Speaker 5: time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast.
Speaker 5: I'm your host is always George Hobbs. As we record
Speaker 5: on this August second, twenty twenty five, It's Saturday night.
Speaker 5: I hope everybody is doing well. We have two guests
Speaker 5: this evening. It's Jose and Francesca are joining us from
Speaker 5: North Texas today. Good evening, How are you all doing tonight?
Speaker 1: Great? How are you sir?
Speaker 5: Doing great? It's a pleasure to have you. We had
Speaker 5: a little bit of a conversation beforehand, but please take
Speaker 5: a few minutes and introduce yourselves to the audience.
Speaker 1: Hi, my name is Jose and I'm Francesca his wife.
Speaker 1: We are from We are originally from Puerto Rico, but
Speaker 1: we've been living in North Texas for about ten years.
Speaker 1: We've been married for ten years. A brief brief introduction
Speaker 1: of myself. Right now, I work in the cell phone
Speaker 1: industry and the tower industry. I build cell phone towers
Speaker 1: and networks for the major carriers five G. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm not building anymore. I'm in more like in a
Speaker 1: management position. But I've been in the army. This is
Speaker 1: that's what I did for a living. For a few years.
Speaker 1: I was deployed to Iraq. I had a secret security clearance,
Speaker 1: so I've seen I saw all the shadiness of the
Speaker 1: government and all the misspending, all the insane spending that
Speaker 1: it didn't make sense to me. And I was a kid.
Speaker 1: That was a while ago when I went to Iraq.
Speaker 1: But I've been doing this for about almost twenty years,
Speaker 1: and that's how I that's how I came to be
Speaker 1: with the flat earth. The telecom industry itself can get
Speaker 1: it's hidden in plain sight. You can see. You can
Speaker 1: see that the telecoms will not work in a globe,
Speaker 1: and I figured it out for a a few friends
Speaker 1: experience in some life. So I'm gonna yeah my wife.
Speaker 6: Now, I'm Francesca and I currently homeschool two teenagers fourteen
Speaker 6: years old and we've been homeschooling for two years. The
Speaker 6: Lord put that in my heart and he has given
Speaker 6: me the grace to do it. They were exposed to
Speaker 6: the public school system, but I'm glad that we got
Speaker 6: them out. And so currently we're going to go into
Speaker 6: our third year homeschooling and we have two yerkeys.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's awesome, and homeschool before you homeschool. I'm not
Speaker 5: speaking for you, but like to me, that was one
Speaker 5: of the biggest decisions I ever made.
Speaker 4: That I was fearing, like, am I harming her?
Speaker 5: You know this and that? And it's been I think
Speaker 5: we started in the twenty twenty into twenty one school year,
Speaker 5: so it's been I guess four years now, and looking back,
Speaker 5: it was one of the best decisions I ever made,
Speaker 5: especially when you see what's going in the public school systems.
Speaker 5: And again it's not a hit on teachers, it's the
Speaker 5: system itself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent. The idea that we can think
Speaker 6: that our kids can endure all these days of that
Speaker 6: kind of environment. It's us. We don't even enjoy our
Speaker 6: toxic environment at work, and we expect kids that don't
Speaker 6: have the maturity level to be exposed to it every
Speaker 6: single day, and it's been the best decision and I'm
Speaker 6: glad that our kids are enjoying it. We were able
Speaker 6: to do last semester the Creation Standard with Josh Keith,
Speaker 6: and my daughter loved him.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's awesome, and that's the founded Earth Brothers. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: I'll find that link and put it in the show
Speaker 5: notes for folks if they want to try to use that,
Speaker 5: because he's still using it next year, he's actually expanding it, right, Yes.
Speaker 6: I need to look into what they're gonna do next year.
Speaker 6: I haven't follow up yet, but it doesn't surprise me
Speaker 6: that's gonna He's gonna be expanding Moore, because more people
Speaker 6: are coming to the truth, and especially when new homeschool,
Speaker 6: you're like, you feel so weird teaching them this stuff
Speaker 6: that is in all curriculums, even in Christian base and
Speaker 6: it's like, I don't want to waste their time or
Speaker 6: mine with this. And they are exposed to what the
Speaker 6: world teaches, like what society today teaches. I don't deny
Speaker 6: them that, but I want them to know the truth
Speaker 6: and not waste time.
Speaker 5: Amen and our audience. A lot of people homeschool so
Speaker 5: kudos to you for doing that. We use something called
Speaker 5: monarch aop alpha omega, and again I know when it's
Speaker 5: signs class I look ahead for the week, I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh man, we're going to the moon.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 5: But even you know, we have the same conversations with her,
Speaker 5: so she's aware and understands that. You know that that
Speaker 5: part is maybe fabric. Jose, you had mentioned that you
Speaker 5: work in the telecom industry, and I'm sure half the
Speaker 5: people listening to in our audience may have cringed. I know, yeah,
Speaker 5: go ahead and expand what we were talking about the things.
Speaker 5: You don't need to get too deep into it, obviously,
Speaker 5: but like how you're awakening, I guess paralleled with your profession.
Speaker 1: So I've been doing all kinds of stuff in the
Speaker 1: telecoms industry, but mainly it's all tower work. But for
Speaker 1: all three major carriers in the United States, most of
Speaker 1: these work in the past was all microwave links. Microwave
Speaker 1: links by it said by themselves, they cannot work on
Speaker 1: a globe, It's impossible. And I've been doing microwave links.
Speaker 1: You know, do you know what a microwave link is?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure do Yeah, it's a it's.
Speaker 1: A directional antenna from tower to tower, and these microwave links.
Speaker 1: I found out that I've always been doing like thirty
Speaker 1: forty miles, but and I started doing sixty and seventy miles.
Speaker 1: And but I it never crossed my head that I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's how are they calculating the curve? So I started
Speaker 1: looking into it, and they came up with a technique
Speaker 1: that they called abducting. And then it didn't make sense
Speaker 1: to me because I'm like, but radio frequencies that they
Speaker 1: don't bend, you know, they should be all absorbed by
Speaker 1: the ground. And then I kept looking into it, and
Speaker 1: I just stopped because I'm like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess there's somebody else that is smarter than me,
Speaker 1: and they figure it out. So I stopped looking into it.
Speaker 1: And when I moved here, I met this guy shout
Speaker 1: out to Rob, a friend of mine, and this is
Speaker 1: a very smart guy. And we were climbers together and
Speaker 1: we were in West Texas and we were at three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty foot and he tells the other climber
Speaker 1: it's flat, right, they are wor yeah, it's flood it's not.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what they were talking, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean. It's like, you see the horizon
Speaker 1: and then after the horizon there's the curve, and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's totally flat. So they kept telling me then, and
Speaker 1: to me, it was not very I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: fight it. In my head. I was like, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: so I started believing it, but they failed to explain
Speaker 1: that there was, you know, an ice wall and a firmament.
Speaker 1: So when I started looking into the Internet, the first
Speaker 1: thing that I found the Flattered Society. So when I
Speaker 1: saw the pancake floating in space, that literally, it was
Speaker 1: literally just went away immediately and I totally forgot about it.
Speaker 1: And you know, years later, this same guy we were
Speaker 1: it was like two years later, we were all together,
Speaker 1: we were all I think it was that it was
Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving and we were all all eating and drinking,
Speaker 1: and then they started mucking rob all the group and
Speaker 1: about the flat earth. And but then we were all laughing.
Speaker 1: But these guys started spitting facts like one after the other,
Speaker 1: about laser targeting, the microwaves, dyrol targeting on ships, the railguns,
Speaker 1: and every time he said something, everyone kept laughing. But
Speaker 1: I was I felt like I was shrinking. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it was it's that's undeniable. That's undeniable.
Speaker 1: So I didn't say anything else. And then years later
Speaker 1: when I when I came into the flat earth again
Speaker 1: thanks to Eddie Bravo and look into it and all
Speaker 1: these movies, I met him again and I told him like, bro,
Speaker 1: it's flat, and he's like, yeah, I told you permanent
Speaker 1: and on the wall, I'm like, you never told me that,
Speaker 1: Like so yeah, that's how I came back. I came
Speaker 1: about with the flat airth and then we kept digging
Speaker 1: and then I started looking into the microwaves and I
Speaker 1: found it. Actually we I'm from Puerto Rico and I
Speaker 1: remember doing a pad there was a path from Puerto
Speaker 1: Rico to Saint Thomas and that's there. That's seventy miles
Speaker 1: flat on water, and I found a KMC. You can
Speaker 1: go through it the FCC website, download the KMC on
Speaker 1: Google Earth. Funny enough, it's a globe that turns into
Speaker 1: a flat plane of course, and you can measure. You
Speaker 1: can measure all the microwave links from the United States
Speaker 1: and Google Earth, and you can find all kinds of
Speaker 1: distances and then you get the curved carbon calculator and
Speaker 1: it's impossible. It's impossible in a globe. There's no way.
Speaker 5: It's so interesting that you mentioned that because the last
Speaker 5: guest I just had on literally a few minutes ago,
Speaker 5: but for the people listening to the podcast, it was
Speaker 5: Travis from Sunday Night.
Speaker 4: I looked it up earlier today.
Speaker 5: The longest microwave line of sight, like we called it
Speaker 5: in the military, I guess line of sight that's two
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty miles.
Speaker 1: Actually, I found another one. It was in nineteen nineteen seventy.
Speaker 4: Nine, I think it was, Yeah, somewhere it was.
Speaker 1: It was longer, that's the record. And yeah, there's there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of microwave links that are extreme long, and
Speaker 1: there's no way that that can be produced on a ball.
Speaker 1: It's just physically impossible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when we did the math, it would it would
Speaker 5: have been hidden behind thirty two thousand feet of drop.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's absolutely ridiculously thousand feet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the people do the mental gymnastics just
Speaker 1: to excuse all kinds of stuff, and that's when you
Speaker 1: know it's it just gets ridiculous. Uh.
Speaker 5: And while we're at that junction. Why do you think
Speaker 5: that is Why do you think people won't take that step?
Speaker 5: Is it afraid, like subconsciously they don't want to be
Speaker 5: known as a flat earther or do you think it's
Speaker 5: something deeper than that.
Speaker 1: Some people is that they don't want to they don't
Speaker 1: want to look into it because they don't have a
Speaker 1: system to replace whatever they have we have right now.
Speaker 1: And then there's other people that are they're merit to
Speaker 1: the idea. And then it's very spiritual. They're under they're
Speaker 1: under a spell, especially man with these I mean they
Speaker 1: took away for men, they took away the the innate
Speaker 1: exploring that we're meant to explore and conquer. And then
Speaker 1: since we don't conquer and explore anymore, they gave us
Speaker 1: the ultimate frontier, the ultimate fake front tier, which is space,
Speaker 1: which sometimes someday we're gonna conquer it. And then we
Speaker 1: but the achievements, achievements quote unquote of these actornauts, we
Speaker 1: take him upon ourselves. Oh these are my achievements. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Mars. We got all elon and
Speaker 1: then it's very difficult to break this spell. It's very
Speaker 1: satanic heliocentrism is totally satanic. And unfortunately, I had an
Speaker 1: experience with a guy that used to work with me
Speaker 1: and we met it. We we knew each other about
Speaker 1: about a few years ago, and then we were having
Speaker 1: the same discussion on Facebook about the microwaves. And then
Speaker 1: his excuse is that somebody else make this calculation for you.
Speaker 1: We are too stupid to make these calculations. So my
Speaker 1: last request, my life, sorry, my life to reply to
Speaker 1: him was, well, if you find me in the RBS,
Speaker 1: which is the radio frequency data sheet for each it's
Speaker 1: just site. Everything is there, the assima, the centerline, the
Speaker 1: the the potency of how you're going to transmit, the
Speaker 1: size of the dish. Everything is there. That's like the
Speaker 1: bible of the of the site. I told him literally,
Speaker 1: if you find me the curve calculation and any RBS ever,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a thousand dollars right now. And he
Speaker 1: ended up blocking me from Facebook immediately, and I never
Speaker 1: I never knew anything about the game ever. Again. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just we we think that there's somebody else with
Speaker 1: a permission and a degree that it's doing this calculation,
Speaker 1: and we are not. We're not supposed to do this
Speaker 1: because we didn't stall it for this We're too stupid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's the play. That's what they've been doing.
Speaker 1: These people are all actors.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And Francesca, you hit it on the head that
Speaker 5: there is a spell amongst the people that is put
Speaker 5: out through the television and the internet and the cell phone,
Speaker 5: the black window. The other cool thing is you, guys.
Speaker 5: I love when you keep talking about we. So it
Speaker 5: sounds like that. You guys, anytime someone learns something, you
Speaker 5: shared it with each other, and you've shared this journey together.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, Yeah, we definitely. We came to flatter together.
Speaker 6: And man, I'm so grateful to God for that because
Speaker 6: he has revealed to us the truth. And having a
Speaker 6: partner that you can talk about these things like it.
Speaker 6: I feel for people that right now can't even talk
Speaker 6: to their own partner, you know. And and I understand
Speaker 6: everybody's journey is different because there's a lot of layers
Speaker 6: to peel when it comes to this. You keep going
Speaker 6: into like having my husband be in this industry, you know,
Speaker 6: I was feeling convicted and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: everything is a lie, everything is a scam. And then
Speaker 6: but this is how we provide for our home. So
Speaker 6: you know, we are just depending on the Lord to
Speaker 6: guide us through what is next for us because we
Speaker 6: know what it means to be a part of this industry.
Speaker 6: And so we both came to Flatter together. Obviously he
Speaker 6: was more exposed to it. I feel like men, it
Speaker 6: is definitely harder for them, because when I saw it,
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense completely for me.
Speaker 6: I hear you all the time George say, oh man,
Speaker 6: it took me a week. I couldn't sleep. I did
Speaker 6: not have that. I just that was immediately like yep,
Speaker 6: that made sense. And then just when you read the
Speaker 6: Bible and my relationship with God got so much stronger.
Speaker 6: But I do believe it's more on an attack on men.
Speaker 6: It does affect men more the space stuff, because you
Speaker 6: have Star Wars, you have Star Trek, and it just
Speaker 6: innately men are more in tune with space stuff than women.
Speaker 6: I don't say that there's women that aren't interested, but
Speaker 6: I do believe that they get more defensive and it's
Speaker 6: harder to break the spell.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's your spot on because like I said, I
Speaker 5: struggled for almost two weeks no sleep, and like you know,
Speaker 5: just I was looking so desperately to find that one
Speaker 5: bit I could say, ah see, but you can't find it.
Speaker 5: The more you dig, the more you bury yourself really
Speaker 5: and and then you know, I tell my wife, she's
Speaker 5: like yeah, just like instantly, I'm like.
Speaker 4: Really, just He's like yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, even to the point where she
Speaker 5: sounded like she may have come across it. But it
Speaker 5: just you guys are able to do stuff, I guess,
Speaker 5: and we're we're you know, we're we're boneheaded, we're stubborn,
Speaker 5: you know, we don't like to admit we're wrong in
Speaker 5: things of that nature. But there is something you said
Speaker 5: that really resonates with me. Is there is a spell
Speaker 5: amongst the people. And you can kind of see this
Speaker 5: divide of people who can see and the people who cannot.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if it's just me looking too
Speaker 5: deep into things, but it seems like that divide is
Speaker 5: getting wider and wider, like people are truly waking up,
Speaker 5: and there's still people who were just turning their backs
Speaker 5: on these things, whether it's you know, they're they're under
Speaker 5: a spell or they don't they're too comfortable in their
Speaker 5: lives because I tell people this all the time that
Speaker 5: if you're too comfortable, then you're probably not doing the
Speaker 5: Lord's work.
Speaker 4: That's just how I feel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and I think too that the spell part.
Speaker 6: I just feel like it's crazy to me that people
Speaker 6: are like, yeah, they don't believe in the moon, right,
Speaker 6: the moon landing. And I say, okay, so you have
Speaker 6: a big lie, and how does it make everything else true?
Speaker 6: I mean that for me is easy one line. What
Speaker 6: do you call a person that lies?
Speaker 1: A liar?
Speaker 6: So you can't pick and choose what they lie and
Speaker 6: they do not lie. I mean every institution we say,
Speaker 6: the government lies, CDC lies, the CIA, so, but NASA.
Speaker 6: NASA is the only one. You can't You can't give
Speaker 6: any pushback or question. And it's it's the indoctrination. It's
Speaker 6: the mainstream, the aspect of just you know, all these
Speaker 6: things that are fun because it's space, its gloriation. Don't
Speaker 6: look too deep on it, but no, it's very deep.
Speaker 6: Like imagine, the first book of the Bible is Genesis.
Speaker 6: It's God's creation. And I don't idolize the creation, but
Speaker 6: we need to give glory and praise to the one
Speaker 6: that created it. And we think that man's greatest accomplishment
Speaker 6: and we're praising men. And it's crazy to see it
Speaker 6: in Christians. I can understand people that are not believers,
Speaker 6: but Christians, it's it's wild for me to think that
Speaker 6: they they don't see it. And that's why we have
Speaker 6: to pray for the spell to break so the veil
Speaker 6: is lifted.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I've done two hundred and twenty of these interviews or
Speaker 5: so on this podcast. That's first time somebody has ever
Speaker 5: said that. That kind of hit me hard when you
Speaker 5: talk about, you know, people giving the glory to man
Speaker 5: and how that to see that these spells and the
Speaker 5: deceit is so subtle. And for your you can tell
Speaker 5: you the veils have fallen from your eyes, from your
Speaker 5: guy's eyes. It's just amazing when I hear something like that.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what it is. It's the transfer of the
Speaker 5: glory to God to the glory of man with this
Speaker 5: fake story. And that's what people. If you even have
Speaker 5: a little doubt about, you know, landing on the moon,
Speaker 5: then that you should be able to have a little
Speaker 5: bit of discernment, especially after twenty twenty and understand, yes,
Speaker 5: man does lie and if you're a Christian, Like you said,
Speaker 5: the Bible points out hundreds of times through the Bible
Speaker 5: that man is flawed, and put your trust in God,
Speaker 5: not in man.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they call it man's greatest achievement because
Speaker 1: I mean it's his man glorification, which is a fake achievement.
Speaker 1: It's a lie. Yeah, a master of decession always.
Speaker 5: And I'm still stunned how God works because the guy
Speaker 5: just interviewed Travis, he worked for a telecommunications company in Canada.
Speaker 5: He did something similar to you with internet, and he
Speaker 5: kind of came to the same route. It's amazing how
Speaker 5: people kind of go through the same the same walk.
Speaker 5: How did COVID affect your family and did that play
Speaker 5: a part of your awakening.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was a little bit awakened if by nine
Speaker 1: to eleven, But as soon as I joined the army,
Speaker 1: I became very patriotic and I ignored the entire thing.
Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty, that's when the veil lifted entirely.
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful, and mine sounds weird that I'm very
Speaker 1: grateful for COVID because that's how we both woke up,
Speaker 1: like we it didn't add up. I was working for
Speaker 1: a big telecom company, and I saw the push immediately
Speaker 1: as they locked us down. I saw the push for
Speaker 1: us to start building like crazy, like building while everyone
Speaker 1: was locked down on our houses. We were building, building
Speaker 1: and building and building and building non stop. It was
Speaker 1: the greatest push that I ever lived on this industry,
Speaker 1: and that really asked my attention. And then every time
Speaker 1: you expose you you you exposed the human to new frequencies.
Speaker 1: You get, you get, you get sick. That's been proven
Speaker 1: through the course of history. And then you were pushing
Speaker 1: all these new high ultra frequencies which I d and oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me that this doesn't have anything to do. Plus,
Speaker 1: they hijacked the flu, and I saw, I saw through it.
Speaker 1: I saw through it. I remember a guy at work
Speaker 1: saying like, well, I guess you need to get used
Speaker 1: to it, because this is the new this is the
Speaker 1: new normal. And I remember getting so infuriated that I
Speaker 1: started yelling at him and I'm like, I'm done, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing this anymore. And a few months later I
Speaker 1: quit and I started my own company, and I'm very
Speaker 1: glad because after that they started doing the vaccine mandates.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna probably lose my job anyways, and
Speaker 1: God took us out of there immediately. Then we bought
Speaker 1: a house. Well used to live in an apartment, and
Speaker 1: then thanks to that, I met some people. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a CrossFit athlete, and the owner of this CrossFit
Speaker 1: gym took us to church. I was I used to
Speaker 1: be an atheist at that time, and since this was
Speaker 1: the only church open around and they didn't use masks,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, they're rebels. I would go with them,
Speaker 1: I guess, so I went with them. In that day,
Speaker 1: they played a video and this video was going down.
Speaker 1: I remember it was going down. It was it was
Speaker 1: a message going down and it was very negative about Jesus.
Speaker 1: And then when it kept then they repeat they did
Speaker 1: it in reverse and it was going up the letters
Speaker 1: and it was the total opposite, and it was talking
Speaker 1: about how God is merciful, how God is loved, and
Speaker 1: it was it was literally like a spell broke. I
Speaker 1: started crying and I was like, I've been fulled. I
Speaker 1: started saying I've been fulled. I've been fulled, And in
Speaker 1: that moment, I came back to Jesus again, and from
Speaker 1: that moment on everything one after the other. God started
Speaker 1: exposing and giving us all the clues flatter like everything COVID,
Speaker 1: all the everything is a scam. Everything is a scam.
Speaker 1: That's our favorite praise. Everything is a scam. These are
Speaker 1: all actors. It's there's no limit for these people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and for me, the blessing was breaking the curse
Speaker 5: of the politics system, right, because that is so divisive
Speaker 5: amongst our friends and families, and that they're all actors
Speaker 5: in a realm that will never have any interactions with
Speaker 5: these people. Maybe if you're in the military inn a parade,
Speaker 5: you may get waived at. Or I had the absolute
Speaker 5: pleasure of being told to shake Hillary Clinton's hand in
Speaker 5: October of two thousand and two. I've washed my hand
Speaker 5: like eighty four thousand times every day and it's still
Speaker 5: I can't get that evil off my hand. And it
Speaker 5: was like, you know, people talk about I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to start another rabbit hole. They talk about the reptilians,
Speaker 5: but you want to talk about cold clammy hands.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what in the world.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, but yeah, I forgot we were going,
Speaker 5: but I wanted to ask.
Speaker 6: Definitely, Yeah, that turning point. It COVID, and at first
Speaker 6: he was more like giving pushback, and because I didn't know,
Speaker 6: Like I was just like at first, I was like, please,
Speaker 6: let's not like just go to the store and put
Speaker 6: on the mask, like I don't want no confrontation. But
Speaker 6: then after we saw more and I saw more, I
Speaker 6: also like just didn't care. And then the vaccine stuff,
Speaker 6: like I was raised, you know you do vaccines, and
Speaker 6: so now that I know, I don't put nothing on
Speaker 6: my kids. We didn't get the COVID vaccine and we
Speaker 6: had family obviously that did it, and they were like
Speaker 6: telling us, you know, you should do it, and we
Speaker 6: were the we were the weird. I was that gave
Speaker 6: push back in the family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was told by someone very close because of
Speaker 1: people like you, people is dying. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll take that as a badge of vuner
Speaker 1: because I don't know. I don't want to tell you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And they bought hook Line and Sinker into it,
Speaker 5: and I remember the thanksgiging of twenty twenty. It was divisive.
Speaker 5: It was heartbreaking. You know, we're family, we're friends. We
Speaker 5: should support each other's decisions. Like I've always said, there's
Speaker 5: that there were certain people who may have just been
Speaker 5: in a point in their life they just for whatever reason, right,
Speaker 5: but to actually rebuke someone because they are standing strong
Speaker 5: in their convictions. And then you actually do the research
Speaker 5: on vaccines and you find out, well, you mean there's
Speaker 5: people who been protesting vaccines for over two.
Speaker 4: Hundred years, right, I know.
Speaker 5: Tell Yeah, there used to be a joke that what's
Speaker 5: the difference between conspiracy theory and the truth? About six months?
Speaker 5: And now it's like a couple of days in many
Speaker 5: In many cases, absolutely unbelievable. But yeah, COVID was a
Speaker 5: double edged sword. It was a great awakening. But I
Speaker 5: also think it was a test. I think when the
Speaker 5: time comes where they actually put their foot down, I
Speaker 5: think that what we saw is going maybe ten percent.
Speaker 5: I think they're going to push things like internet usage
Speaker 5: and the ability to spend money in certain ways. I
Speaker 5: think what we saw in twenty twenty is going to
Speaker 5: be just a small percentage of what we're going to see.
Speaker 4: In the future.
Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to be a fear monger, but
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to The Bible tells us if you yes,
Speaker 5: you're going to be persecuted.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, no, and everything points to that. I mean, right now,
Speaker 1: if you look at the news quote unquote the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: they're talking about a hostile craft coming from space that
Speaker 1: is supposed to be here in November, and I just laugh.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, white people keep eating this like nothing.
Speaker 1: They just consume it everything, and it's just wild because
Speaker 1: it's just people don't have any discernment or common sense.
Speaker 1: And then these are the same people that say, oh,
Speaker 1: do not believe. I don't believe you, and then I
Speaker 1: believe fALS blah blah blah. Then they're all the same,
Speaker 1: and then they all peddle the same narratives. And some
Speaker 1: of them they painted rates, some of them they painted
Speaker 1: blue so they can they can get the entire mess.
Speaker 1: But it's just absolute nonsense. It's absolute nonsense. And they're
Speaker 1: going to try it again for sure. I mean they
Speaker 1: already again that twenty thirty. They're not hiding it. So
Speaker 1: that's going to happen either we want it or not.
Speaker 1: And it's written in the Bible, so yeah, we just
Speaker 1: got to be prepared. I mean, it's not fear monger
Speaker 1: and it's just.
Speaker 5: The truth exactly. And again I don't dwell on these things,
Speaker 5: But you have to make it known.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: There's some people who refuse to even mention the word
Speaker 5: hell in church, but I think you have to say,
Speaker 5: you know, listen, there are you know, we if you
Speaker 5: make ask your certain actions things, you can either go
Speaker 5: here or hear that. I mean, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 5: There are repercussions for the way you live. And you know,
Speaker 5: during the First Great Awakening in the seventeen fifties, there
Speaker 5: was a very famous preacher, very famous sermon that he
Speaker 5: gave that has been redone today, and he spoke very
Speaker 5: much about the consequences of turning your back against God.
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm not saying that your church should
Speaker 5: be you know, but people need to know the truth.
Speaker 5: And sometimes the truth isn't you know sweet or tastes
Speaker 5: like pepperoni pizza. Sometimes you know when just like you
Speaker 5: know the things, you know how they corrupt these politicians, right,
Speaker 5: the Epstein thing, that is awful, It's horrible people. Millstone
Speaker 5: just like the Bible says, it's better than a millstone
Speaker 5: be tossed in the ocean. But if we turn our
Speaker 5: back on these things, we're doing it a service to
Speaker 5: the children as well.
Speaker 1: It's you know, yeah, everything have a consequence. You know. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we live in a society that they just don't want
Speaker 1: to take action because if you if you acknowledge the
Speaker 1: truth or the issues in your life. For example, I
Speaker 1: used to be an alcoholic, so until I didn't acknowledge
Speaker 1: my alcoholism, I couldn't if I acknowledge it, that that
Speaker 1: means that I have to take action. So people don't
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge the truth because that means that it
Speaker 1: will have to take action or they will have to
Speaker 1: acknowledge the truth. And you know, live by the spenders
Speaker 1: of the truth, and you know, you are just participating
Speaker 1: in and you're complicit on everything. So they just they
Speaker 1: just choose to look the other way. It's easier. Football
Speaker 1: is next Sunday. Let's grab some beers and just you know,
Speaker 1: eat and drink until we just until we pass out.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's absurd the way people live these days.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's where we're at right now, and
Speaker 1: it's very sad, but it's reality.
Speaker 5: Isn't it interesting that when we wake up to use
Speaker 5: the term, and we're saved by the grace of God
Speaker 5: and the blood of Jesus Christ, how the things we
Speaker 5: used to like, I couldn't wait till Sunday, and if
Speaker 5: the Eagles loss on Sunday, I'd be upset till Wednesday.
Speaker 5: And then I start focusing on the next game. You know,
Speaker 5: that's stinking cowboys, right, And and then you wake up
Speaker 5: in movies. You don't pay attention to the movies and
Speaker 5: all those things, and it's it's just you know, you
Speaker 5: don't miss it because you're so focused on the truth
Speaker 5: and you're thirst for knowledge and you want to better yourself. Right,
Speaker 5: And whether it's vaccines, whether it's m rn A in
Speaker 5: the food system and the tackle the seed war on us,
Speaker 5: whether it's m R and A, whether it's gmo. Right,
Speaker 5: everything got created, there's a war on and we need
Speaker 5: to be a part of standing up against that evil.
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely a war on seed in every.
Speaker 4: Area for sure.
Speaker 1: Then once you once you understand that biblically the flatter
Speaker 1: it may make sense, which we call it true Earth
Speaker 1: or biblical biblical cosmology, and you understand that the Watchers
Speaker 1: and the nepheline where I mean, they've been having a
Speaker 1: seed war since the beginning of the time. Everything makes sense.
Speaker 1: Everything just makes sense. And that's why it's so important,
Speaker 1: and people just you know, brush it off like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not a Selvay issue. Maybe for you not, But
Speaker 1: to me, it brought me closer to God like one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. I know that Jesus Christ is our Lord
Speaker 1: and Savior, and these controllers do everything they have on
Speaker 1: their belt just to hide it, to mock him, and
Speaker 1: just to discredit everything. They discredit the Bible, they discredit Genesis,
Speaker 1: and they discredit revelations because it's how it started and
Speaker 1: how it ends. Satan lost to mock and he hates
Speaker 1: Genesis and Revelation in specific because that's how it started
Speaker 1: and he knows how it ends. So that's how he
Speaker 1: discredited so much.
Speaker 5: Have you taken the time out to like the Pyramids
Speaker 5: of Egypt or whether it's buildings that we see these huge,
Speaker 5: you know, buildings that we see that are founded in
Speaker 5: like the sixteen hundreds. Do you think the Nephelene played
Speaker 5: a part of that building or the giants back then?
Speaker 1: And I think that the pyramids. Yes. We actually we
Speaker 1: went very recent to was to loom right, We went
Speaker 1: to Mexico to we saw some pyramids and Francesca of
Speaker 1: everyone started, they started poking the guide, the tour guide,
Speaker 1: and asked him about it, if if.
Speaker 6: Anybody has asked about the giants, does anybody come and
Speaker 6: asked about it? And he said yes, really yeah, so
Speaker 6: and I went like, yeah, and I believe that. I said,
Speaker 6: that's what I believe too. So I was I made
Speaker 6: the tour interesting because I I injected myself in there.
Speaker 1: But these buildings are everywhere. We even in Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: and Puerto Rico, like the Capitol building in San Juan
Speaker 1: and then there's a bank and they'll all have Greco
Speaker 1: Roman infrastructure and they even have the Roman numbers and everything,
Speaker 1: and people just off that they just lived there, like yeah,
Speaker 1: in a model which is is a big star for it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you see that. They're like these people
Speaker 1: didn't build with these little couple copple tools. It's impossible,
Speaker 1: and people just they just overlook it. They're so there's
Speaker 1: so a sleep on everything. I see all these buildings
Speaker 1: all across Texas because I traveled all across Texas all
Speaker 1: because of my job, and in every town there's one
Speaker 1: or two in the are They're pretty impressive.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you that, where did you say you
Speaker 4: saw the star for.
Speaker 1: Then oh, Puerto Rico, chick for l Motro.
Speaker 4: Really you know.
Speaker 5: We we took a cruise in twenty nineteen in the
Speaker 5: summer of twenty nineteen and we went to Belize and
Speaker 5: we saw pyramids there. Yeah, they're all over the world
Speaker 5: and I go ahead, sorry, no, no, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: So I've heard recently that in Puerto Rico they found
Speaker 1: some fossils on and they had that there was stone
Speaker 1: that it wasn't great with Hebrew. And I found that
Speaker 1: very interesting, and it was like they were dating it
Speaker 1: like for it was very old it was, and it
Speaker 1: was Hebrew. And I don't know about that. I haven't
Speaker 1: looked into it. But yeah, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things hidden in plain sight everywhere.
Speaker 5: So the Hebrew Stones of Puerto Rico, also known as
Speaker 5: the Nazario Collection, are a collection of carved stones discovered
Speaker 5: in the late eighteen hundreds. Initially dismissed as forgeries, the
Speaker 5: research does suggest that they are are authentic. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: they're connected to the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. Yeah,
Speaker 5: learned something every day.
Speaker 1: I think. I think, well, with the with the Grand
Speaker 1: Canyon and everything, I think everything is inverted, everything is
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't we don't know where we at,
Speaker 1: we don't know what America is the timeline I'm I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't say that I believe in the legal season,
Speaker 1: but I find it very interesting too, and I don't
Speaker 1: discard anything at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of things out there that are are
Speaker 5: hot topics of debate, and the Grand Canyon one is
Speaker 5: very interesting too. Like I didn't realize untill a few
Speaker 5: years ago, there are play in the Grand Canyon that
Speaker 5: you can't even step foot in.
Speaker 4: Yep, So what what is that? Lend? Is that tunnels?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 4: What do they think that is.
Speaker 1: They? For what I've heard, there's there's mummies, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of Egyptian artifacts really, so yeah, that's what I've
Speaker 1: heard for I've seen a few TikTok videos, but I
Speaker 1: haven't lived into it a lot. But for what I've heard,
Speaker 1: like in national parts, you're not even allowed to fly
Speaker 1: drones and you're not even you're allowed to access like
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 4: Why is that?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very it's very suspicious to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is interesting. You know, I always ask people
Speaker 5: just to get them thinking, I say, did God give
Speaker 5: this land to governments and to rich people or did
Speaker 5: he give it to everyone? Because you know, you had
Speaker 5: mentioned at the very beginning that we can't explore in
Speaker 5: many places, and we're meant to be on this earth
Speaker 5: and explore.
Speaker 4: And then you know how big was the Roman.
Speaker 5: I've been to many places around the world. There are
Speaker 5: reco Roman style architecture all over the world. So again,
Speaker 5: how much is real and how much is fake? Because
Speaker 5: again it all goes full circle. If they can lie
Speaker 5: about the shape of the earth and the man's greatest
Speaker 5: accomplishment was a lie, everything should be in play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everything's on the table.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And I when I see now, when I go outside,
Speaker 6: I just look up now like you can't now when
Speaker 6: you see the the chemtrails, And I'm just always paying
Speaker 6: attention to everything. And I feel like when I talk
Speaker 6: to God, he's just there, that he's close, that the
Speaker 6: sun is not ninety three million miles away. I can
Speaker 6: clearly see it, and just everywhere I go now and
Speaker 6: if we travel and explore it, like I'm excited to
Speaker 6: look at things with a different perspective because I was
Speaker 6: completely blind. I was completely blind and it's it's exciting,
Speaker 6: and I know it's frustrating too to be like everything
Speaker 6: is a scam. But I always point to Jesus because
Speaker 6: that's where our hope is. And you get to just
Speaker 6: discover this earth, this realm through his lens and the truth.
Speaker 6: And I think that's awesome.
Speaker 5: It is really awesome. And you know, they tell you
Speaker 5: in Hollywood, don't look Up. Remember that movie Don't Look
Speaker 5: Up that came out December tenth, twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 5: on the same day there was a and this is December,
Speaker 5: remember folks, all the tornadoes that hit central and southern
Speaker 5: United States in December. And now we know that, you know,
Speaker 5: they have this weather modification that goes back. I think
Speaker 5: the first actual patent goes back to the late eighteen
Speaker 5: ninety eight and then you fast forward Operation Popeye Vietnam.
Speaker 5: You know, like just the weather we've had over the
Speaker 5: last two weeks, it's just been rain like we've never
Speaker 5: seen it before. And once again, regular folks who are
Speaker 5: not fully awake are even starting to notice. My mom
Speaker 5: is going to be seventy eight next month, and she's
Speaker 5: texted me they sprayed the skies again. I'm in Florida.
Speaker 5: There's a law again who told them just like she's
Speaker 5: even flipping out about it. People are starting to understand, like,
Speaker 5: you know, that's not the sky she grew up with
Speaker 5: in the fifties and sixties. You know that they are
Speaker 5: trying to My friend who lives in England, he believes
Speaker 5: that they're trying to that it's even more nefarious than that,
Speaker 5: that they're trying to break the connection because right God,
Speaker 5: if he's above us, they're trying to break our connection
Speaker 5: with him, That's what he believes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they want to cover the sun and you'll see
Speaker 6: that they'll do like the X and the.
Speaker 7: Sky and you see all these floods that don't normally
Speaker 7: have an and it's a mockery of the Bible because
Speaker 7: we know God's promise, he said he would never flood
Speaker 7: the earth again.
Speaker 6: So they they go, they stop with the fires. They
Speaker 6: took a break from the fires, and now they say,
Speaker 6: let's do the floods.
Speaker 5: Interesting times kind of going into flat earth. What would
Speaker 5: you all say, looking at your your six silver bullets,
Speaker 5: what are the big ones for you?
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see we have a few roads that I
Speaker 1: wrote here for me was obviously the microwave paths, and
Speaker 1: there's something there's something else on microwave. There's another technology.
Speaker 1: It's a microwave laser microwave. They have a path which
Speaker 1: is it's a I can send you the Lynx. They
Speaker 1: made a link from New York to Chicago. It's called
Speaker 1: the Windy Apple, and it's a laser microwave. Lasers don't
Speaker 1: bend it. That's there's no So that the firmament in
Speaker 1: the Bible, Yeah, Genesis in the firmament. And for me,
Speaker 1: the Antarctic Treaty. You're gonna you mean to tell me
Speaker 1: that all these countries hate each other, but you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna. They're all together to protect the penguins. You know,
Speaker 1: it's they're so kind. You just want to protect the penguins.
Speaker 1: It's it's nonsense. You bomb children and gosa and everywhere
Speaker 1: you go, but you want to protect the penguins. Give
Speaker 1: me a break.
Speaker 4: Did you say Windy Apple?
Speaker 5: Yes, So that's the name of the this in the Simpsons,
Speaker 5: which reveals everything, the Firmament and Trump that No, that
Speaker 5: is the the show's capital city. So you see thirty
Speaker 5: three capital city is called the Windy Apple. In the Simpsons,
Speaker 5: that's when you said that. I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 5: I hit Google and sure, yeah, Well the.
Speaker 1: Link is called Windy Apple, and actually the company its
Speaker 1: name is Windy Apple.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: And I wonder if there's some kind of mockery of
Speaker 5: Adam and Eve with that.
Speaker 1: Probably they are trying for what I read, he's trying
Speaker 1: new technology with balloons and airplanes and craft to do microwave,
Speaker 1: which in this explains the This explained the sadalloons for me,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's very obvious, the sad of loons.
Speaker 1: I was there. There's a I think it's called habs
Speaker 1: and it's uh. It's basically a platform that flies in
Speaker 1: a balloon and gives you lte. They use it in
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico for Maria. So these are there are your sadalloons.
Speaker 1: It's it's just crazy. So how about you, babe.
Speaker 6: Well, for me, the easiest one is our senses. We
Speaker 6: have been lied to to not even trust our eyes
Speaker 6: what we feel. I don't feel that we're spinning. I
Speaker 6: can clearly see it's flat, and I can look up
Speaker 6: and see the sun is not ninety three million miles away.
Speaker 6: So I mean the fact when I I'm amazed of
Speaker 6: how God created everything. Everything is so deep tailed how
Speaker 6: he created us, And so you're going to tell me
Speaker 6: that we're not going to have an intuitive connection to
Speaker 6: his creation into knowing and feeling. And he always and
Speaker 6: they always try to tell us that these people and
Speaker 6: our our ancient times, that they were so stupid and
Speaker 6: and had you know that that now we have smart
Speaker 6: people around us with degrees and they know more. And
Speaker 6: it's like, for me, that's the most simple one. Trust
Speaker 6: your senses. Do you feel like you're moving when I
Speaker 6: go on a roller coaster? I feel it when I
Speaker 6: look up, I can see the sun and in the moon.
Speaker 6: At the same time, I don't see the curve. We
Speaker 6: went on a cruise, everything was completely flat, so our
Speaker 6: senses definitely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And we underestimate ourselves were we always err to the
Speaker 5: professionals right, Well, he's wearing a white lab coat and
Speaker 5: it says you know PhD on it, So who am I?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: And then you sit down and have a conversation with
Speaker 5: some of these people, I like, wait a second, we
Speaker 5: have a lap coat here.
Speaker 6: We put it on for my daughter for a lab
Speaker 6: and I tell her, honey, put the lap coote on
Speaker 6: because now you're legit. Now they have to take everything
Speaker 6: you tell them as as a fact.
Speaker 4: There you go, you know, for me, believe it or not.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I've mentioned this, I probably have,
Speaker 5: but one of the big things for me was the
Speaker 5: Tower of Babbel story. It's one of those things that
Speaker 5: helped me understand the Bible more right, because some people
Speaker 5: when they read the Bible just take that as oh,
Speaker 5: what happened back then, and they don't understand that it
Speaker 5: was actually and thirty three cubits and two palms, which
Speaker 5: is over a mile and a half tall, which means
Speaker 5: it was three times taller than Mount Everest. And it
Speaker 5: says it fell to the ground. So I mean, this
Speaker 5: is at that time one of the greatest technological ambitions
Speaker 5: of humanity. But they were literally trying to get into
Speaker 5: heaven to overthrow God God. And that continues to this day.
Speaker 5: And that always I always think to myself, this may
Speaker 5: sound silly to you if it does, just tell me,
Speaker 5: but I always think, does God want me to Maybe
Speaker 5: this is doing it, but does God want us to
Speaker 5: stop these people? Like if we know that NASA and
Speaker 5: all these people are trying to get into heaven, which
Speaker 5: I know they can't, but like, we need to stop
Speaker 5: these maniacs, and our tax dollars are going to people
Speaker 5: who are trying to break into heaven.
Speaker 4: Like literally, when you break it down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I tell people, well, if
Speaker 6: God is the same and that he didn't allow that
Speaker 6: to happen, do you think that He's going to allow
Speaker 6: man to just go through the firmament. They cannot do it,
Speaker 6: nobody can leave. That's just to me, it's so simple
Speaker 6: to understand because you have to know the Father obviously
Speaker 6: that those are. That's for believers. For those that don't believe,
Speaker 6: then it's definitely different. You have to have grace, meet
Speaker 6: them where they are and pray. But the Bible, just
Speaker 6: that story alone, George, that you mentioned should show us
Speaker 6: that if God didn't allow it to happen one time,
Speaker 6: it will he will never allow it to happen.
Speaker 5: And there's a reason these stories are in the Bible.
Speaker 5: It's for us to learn from them. But unfortunately, once again,
Speaker 5: people trust in man a little too much. We've seen
Speaker 5: it over the last six thousand years. From you know,
Speaker 5: I have assured that says Noah was a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 5: Then it started raining.
Speaker 4: Right yep.
Speaker 1: And other issue is that they took the apocryphy out
Speaker 1: of the Bible, because I'm reading Gasher and once I
Speaker 1: started reading Gasher and Enoch, everything pieced together. Everything. It
Speaker 1: was just so amazed. And unfortunately if you don't look
Speaker 1: at it now that I know that it's we are
Speaker 1: created and we are in a realm, and I can
Speaker 1: take the Bible literal, and I can take all these
Speaker 1: books literal. This our history, This is history, this is
Speaker 1: real history. I mean, the veil is lifted. There's no
Speaker 1: limit in the knowledge you're gonna get. And God is
Speaker 1: gonna take God is gonna talk to you more often
Speaker 1: because you know it's you are You are really seeking
Speaker 1: him and you just want to uncover the truth to
Speaker 1: be able to have a closer relationship with God. I
Speaker 1: don't want anything else. I don't want to be rich.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be famous. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you don't take any of the riches, you
Speaker 1: don't take anything. And I don't want to be not
Speaker 1: any of these thirty elites. They are filthy, they are
Speaker 1: I don't think they're even human. Yeah, and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just I just want to live for God, and God
Speaker 1: is thanks to the revelation that I had and when
Speaker 1: the veil was lifted, and thanks to understanding that we
Speaker 1: live in a realm created for us and we are
Speaker 1: the center of creation. You're not an accident.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and nine to eleven to me is part of
Speaker 5: the reason why I think these some of these quote
Speaker 5: unquote elites are at least maybe half human, right, because yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, George Bush just went to sleep on the
Speaker 5: night of nine to eleven two thousand. Well he didn't
Speaker 5: lose any sleep, didn't lose a wing, you know. And
Speaker 5: then that's one of the things that that you know,
Speaker 5: I like you, right. I saw the fraud, waist and
Speaker 5: abuse in the military, and then I started to see
Speaker 5: things did it at up, but I kept the blinders on.
Speaker 5: And then after I retired, then I started to look
Speaker 5: into it. And you know, dealing with flat Earth was
Speaker 5: one thing, but then dealing with nine to eleven, once
Speaker 5: you learned the truth about it and how it affected
Speaker 5: not just my life but some of the buddies who
Speaker 5: never made it home, it's it's something that still, you know,
Speaker 5: many many years later, I still cope, you know, try
Speaker 5: to cope with absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand. I get you on that one, because
Speaker 1: I'm once I started digging. Yeah, like two or three
Speaker 1: years ago, I watched a documentary it was fir from
Speaker 1: It was a very quick documentary from the Hibler, the
Speaker 1: same guy that did the levels. He had one that
Speaker 1: it's called nine to eleven and it is out of
Speaker 1: the theory of no planes and with old footage of
Speaker 1: all these news news anchor news covering everything and uh,
Speaker 1: the CIA guy that he was, he used to work
Speaker 1: for Fox, I think, and he had all this crib
Speaker 1: and it was everything made sense to me. But I
Speaker 1: felt I felt so disrespected and I felt so bad
Speaker 1: because I mean, and again I almost started crying because
Speaker 1: it's just it was another veil that was lifted because
Speaker 1: I went over there just for nothing, and I just
Speaker 1: lost people that were very it was very good people
Speaker 1: and they were lost for nothing. We were taking them
Speaker 1: just to be on the meat grinder and that. And
Speaker 1: recently I learned about the people with the little hats
Speaker 1: have their hands on everything, and that really opened my eyes.
Speaker 1: So I don't see, I'm telling you everything that's a scam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 5: And even that, you know, I talked about that a
Speaker 5: lot on the fact, Hunner, how they slowly infiltrated Christianity
Speaker 5: in the late eighteen hundreds, and then you see you
Speaker 5: go from the World Zionist Organization of the bowfour Declaration,
Speaker 5: and then nineteen forty five to forty eight, just everything changed.
Speaker 5: History changed, and the people who write our history book changed,
Speaker 5: and our way of living. It all changed, not necessarily
Speaker 5: for the good. But the Bible tells us this, and
Speaker 5: it's it's important that we point all those things out.
Speaker 5: But it's also important that we put it in contrast
Speaker 5: to as it's not every single one as well. There
Speaker 5: are people who you know are out there pointing it out,
Speaker 5: and that's the important one. But if you look behind
Speaker 5: to every president, there's a handler who is a dual citizen.
Speaker 5: I can give you a list of a thousand off
Speaker 5: the top of my head.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's unfortunately, I mean, it's it is what it is.
Speaker 1: At this point, at some point we're gonna I think,
Speaker 1: we're not meant to know everything in this realm absolute
Speaker 1: one point, when we get out of this realm and
Speaker 1: we meet our creator and our Lord Jesus crisis in
Speaker 1: front of you, everything will be revealed. But at that
Speaker 1: point is it's not going to matter. We don't even care.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna look down and be like, oh, I
Speaker 5: told you there's a firmament.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and the four winds as well, which.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that I read that in the ch and
Speaker 1: actually Enoch doesn't make sense at all on a globe
Speaker 1: and it's all it's all a flattered book. It's it's
Speaker 1: crazy once I read it, because the center of the
Speaker 1: earth is the center is the pole is a north pole?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean all these stories that when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I was like, but traveling to the
Speaker 1: center of the earth, that doesn't even make sense. What's
Speaker 1: their lava? And now that I think about, it's like
Speaker 1: the center, they're traveling to an old north pole. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything makes sense now.
Speaker 4: It does in your face.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know now that you've like for me,
Speaker 5: I'm reading Jubilees right now. It explains a lot of things,
Speaker 5: including what we were just talking about, the Tower of
Speaker 5: Babbel in amazing detail, and it also talked about there's
Speaker 5: a verse in there where it talked about Noah and
Speaker 5: how he took all of his natural remedies that he
Speaker 5: needed for disease and wrote it all down like basically
Speaker 5: saying that, oh, yeah, they have God gave us everything
Speaker 5: we need to take care of ourselves. But they they're
Speaker 5: hiding that stuff, you know, all these natural remedies. I
Speaker 5: wish there was another book that, you know, he.
Speaker 4: Had dandelions and nettle and all this other stuff, but.
Speaker 5: Verses that many people would just gloss over. But even
Speaker 5: if you're pardon me a little bit awake, you understand,
Speaker 5: I kind of see why they're kind of keeping this
Speaker 5: stuff away from the mainstream.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, they don't want to you know, they want
Speaker 1: to keep they want to keep the racket alive. It's
Speaker 1: it's all a racket. You go to the doctor and
Speaker 1: he just he wants to pump you with all kinds
Speaker 1: of pails and injections. Same thing with the military. When
Speaker 1: I well, when I came back from Iraq, it was
Speaker 1: I was a train wreck. And then years later I
Speaker 1: don't take a pill at all. I did a lab
Speaker 1: like two days ago. They read me a lab. I'm
Speaker 1: the healthiest that I ever been in my entire life.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jesus Christ. I mean, and it's just I
Speaker 1: don't take any any medicine. I just exercised. I don't
Speaker 1: eat eat processed food, and I just avoid I just
Speaker 1: avoid mainstream media. I try. I I sin a little
Speaker 1: bit with social media, but it's because I like I
Speaker 1: like memes too much. But other than that, I tried.
Speaker 1: I mean I tried to. Yeah I sleep better, and
Speaker 1: yeah we sleep with the Wi Fi off, and yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it helps a lot. They're trying to cook us.
Speaker 1: If you google, there's a there's a lady she used
Speaker 1: to she used to be an air Force. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think she was a chemist and she's very well
Speaker 1: known for about the exposing the charmeter. Well I think
Speaker 1: her name is Ariana Masters, and she most of the
Speaker 1: time she she's posting like a map like the of
Speaker 1: the towers, all the clusters, all these towers are divided
Speaker 1: in clusters, and she's saying that she put it like
Speaker 1: it's like a it's like an RF map she put it.
Speaker 1: And at night they turned up these towers like very high.
Speaker 1: So what she's saying is that they're cooking us while
Speaker 1: we're sleeping.
Speaker 4: Is this the Tinfoil Hat club.
Speaker 1: She's being a tempole hat with with Sam Tripoli. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's how I heard from her.
Speaker 5: She has the map on her homepage on her masters
Speaker 5: dot com you can see what's lit up the uncensored
Speaker 5: daily radar next rad Yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1: Apparently they've been cooking us at night. They have been
Speaker 1: is the frog slow boiling? You know, because at night,
Speaker 1: who's gonna who's gonna notice? But that's how that's why
Speaker 1: people have not been able to sleep well. And I
Speaker 1: don't see I don't see a rem because these people,
Speaker 1: they don't care.
Speaker 5: They don't care to the quote unquote Norman and I
Speaker 5: don't like to use that word, but yeah, when they
Speaker 5: ask you, well, what about the quote unquote elite, aren't
Speaker 5: they subject to the waves?
Speaker 1: You know, I think they have their own remedies. They
Speaker 1: have remedies. I think they have continents and islands where
Speaker 1: they live, and none of these things touch them. They
Speaker 1: probably have something. I don't know how far the firmament goes.
Speaker 1: So I have a theory that they go above the
Speaker 1: ice wall and they probably have something else where they
Speaker 1: live and nothing touches it touches them. Everything is probably
Speaker 1: alive in one of these islands. One of his escapades
Speaker 1: every day. These people just don't disappear out of the blue.
Speaker 1: They don't kill themselves. No, they are too valuable for
Speaker 1: their cause.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, actually, I have a quick anecdote. I worked. I
Speaker 1: worked in Saint Thomas full and it wasn't twenty two
Speaker 1: between twenty twelve to twenty thirteen. Lucky you and I
Speaker 1: work over there for a sprint project, and I used
Speaker 1: to I used to work in a tower that was
Speaker 1: next to the Epstein Island. So the tower that was
Speaker 1: pointing the microwave that was pointing to Epstein's Island. I
Speaker 1: was working in that tower and I could see the
Speaker 1: entire island. So that's that's the amount of money these
Speaker 1: people had. They had licensed microwave paths for themselves, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that was back in twenty twelve. I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I was always curious about these structures and
Speaker 1: the colors. And then years later I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: know that place. I know that place. I've been there,
Speaker 1: I mean not in the island itself, but you gotta
Speaker 1: you see it from the other side, and yeah, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: like the the circles that there were that we have
Speaker 1: to go through the world, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they control everything.
Speaker 5: That's why they always have key people in the United
Speaker 5: States Patent Office. So if they see something that a
Speaker 5: either threatens one of their current things, like you look
Speaker 5: at Stanley Mayer, her and the fellows who have tried
Speaker 5: to come up with these alternative vengeines that run on
Speaker 5: water that they have unfortunate accidents, but they also steal.
Speaker 5: They'll reject the patent and they'll create a character. Right
Speaker 5: like Lifelog was darker run then it ended the next
Speaker 5: day Facebook started.
Speaker 4: They had a character that you know, Zuckerberg, And so they're.
Speaker 5: Able to manipulate every single industry and they take all
Speaker 5: that Monday and they use it against us.
Speaker 1: They use a lot of they use a lot of characters.
Speaker 1: We notice I don't remember the name, but the girl
Speaker 1: it was a girl, a girl genius that wrote it
Speaker 1: all the code to go to the moon. And when
Speaker 1: I noticed, I don't remember her name, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's total only. And the picture is it's a girl
Speaker 1: with pages and pages of code. And because you can
Speaker 1: pretties as a girl. And then same thing with what's
Speaker 1: this guy Stephen Hawkins. This guy is just using nonsense.
Speaker 1: But are you gonna are you're gonna say something about this.
Speaker 4: Guy that is like I did I did a podcast.
Speaker 1: So you don't say anything, so they he'll trip you
Speaker 1: into not saying anything. That's why they use these characters.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. They have the perfect they have the perfect ideas.
Speaker 1: You got to give the credit to these guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you.
Speaker 5: Before I did the podcast on Stephen Hawking, I'm like,
Speaker 5: am I going to get backlash for this? Am I
Speaker 5: going to for making fun of a handicapped person? But
Speaker 5: then you understand it is such mockery.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then they even show them at Epstein Island, like
Speaker 5: with all these girls around them.
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, man.
Speaker 6: Come on, that's always the first woman, the first little girl.
Speaker 6: It's so you don't criticize it. And then you just
Speaker 6: convince people. You get them riled up to this narrative.
Speaker 6: They were made in the basement. You know, these men
Speaker 6: got rich in the garage, they started their entrepreneurship. It's
Speaker 6: always these stories and when you look them up, you're like,
Speaker 6: these these.
Speaker 1: People are is their fraud? I think Jeff Jeff Bezo's grandfather,
Speaker 1: he was. He was connected to DARPA and and I
Speaker 1: think it was it was big on DARPA. So you
Speaker 1: mean to tell me that these guys like, oh, he
Speaker 1: just made his business on a garage.
Speaker 4: Of course, actors.
Speaker 1: Mark Socker is the same thing, you know, it was
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like they're all actors. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was here that I heard it, but
Speaker 1: it was a phrase I adopted it. It's like, we
Speaker 1: don't vote for the for the scriptors. We vote for
Speaker 1: the actors. They let us vote, but we vote for
Speaker 1: the actors, not the scriptors, not the director. Everybody there,
Speaker 1: everybody else is in the background just pulling the strings
Speaker 1: while we fight here because Daddy Trump is doing this
Speaker 1: or dad and it's all it's all smoked, the mirrors,
Speaker 1: it's it's all fake.
Speaker 4: That's why I won't participate in it, because that's consent.
Speaker 1: Yes, like like my like judge Josh Monday says it's
Speaker 1: all fake and gay Josh Monday.
Speaker 4: Yep. By the way, Margaret Hamilton was her name?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes? And I mean, are you going to criticize
Speaker 1: this girl that was a genius? How dare you? If
Speaker 1: you go to a Facebook post and you criticize this girl,
Speaker 1: you get cooked by the comment section.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: That's how inductrinated people is. Like I think critically man,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just not possible.
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask both of you, uh, through this
Speaker 5: awakening process. So like for me and my family, we
Speaker 5: obviously your CrossFit, you're very healthy minded to begin with,
Speaker 5: but we we started understanding like chemicals within deodorant, chemicals
Speaker 5: within shampoos. We buy all our meat now from a
Speaker 5: local butcher, no injections and things of that nature.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Through the the kind of awakening process, How did it
Speaker 5: change your life other than just flat earth the way
Speaker 5: you lived?
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely. We we we said we have to control
Speaker 6: what we can control, because right when you go into
Speaker 6: all these rabbit holes, it can be very depressing and
Speaker 6: you can feel like, well, these people are always killing
Speaker 6: us or making us sick or so you have to
Speaker 6: control whatever you can. And also we can't be in
Speaker 6: fear because we have Jesus and the blood and he's
Speaker 6: our healer. He gave us all the resources in this
Speaker 6: land to provide for us, and I believe that. And
Speaker 6: so just being more aware in forming ourselves and what
Speaker 6: are those things? And we like I cut off. I
Speaker 6: used to have like plug ins and I would get
Speaker 6: these headaches, but I wasn't awake and I wouldn't understand why.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, oh my goodness, it was a frak
Speaker 6: I took them off and the headaches went away. And
Speaker 6: so I make sure that I use a steamer for cleaning,
Speaker 6: you know, on not all these chemicals when you look
Speaker 6: up the bottles that say ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 6: and then you turn it over at six at six.
Speaker 6: So we are more aware of the protein intake, you know,
Speaker 6: quality and protein and just moving our bodies. We promote
Speaker 6: a lot of movement here in the house. Lat night,
Speaker 6: we make sure the kids the phones sleep outside, we
Speaker 6: turn off the Wi Fi, and we make sure we sleep.
Speaker 6: We have a routine. So for us, it is important
Speaker 6: to be healthy, to be conscious of our temple and
Speaker 6: our spirit, and so we can't control what we can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's awesome, and that's kind of how it changed
Speaker 5: us as well.
Speaker 4: For making our own shampoos.
Speaker 5: My wife's gotten big into making our own soaps, natural deodorants,
Speaker 5: all of that and cognizant. Of course, we'll go out
Speaker 5: and have pizza and we're human, right, we get our
Speaker 5: little you know, spoil nights, we'll go out and have
Speaker 5: a pizza or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no fluoride, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: A great point.
Speaker 5: We use I think Tom's or something for the toothpaste
Speaker 5: and the mouth wash and all of it.
Speaker 4: Really it adds up.
Speaker 5: And you know, whether or not it's me thinking, I'm
Speaker 5: but I feel more. My brain is much clearer over
Speaker 5: the last you know, when we started to change our
Speaker 5: life and come out here four or five years ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we definitely would love land because where we can't
Speaker 6: grow anything or have any chickens or anything, but that
Speaker 6: is the goal. We would love to have land to
Speaker 6: be more self sufficient. But yeah, we're definitely more aware.
Speaker 6: We're teaching the kids about, you know, just making more
Speaker 6: good choices because you can't avoid it all. I mean,
Speaker 6: they're spraying the skies. They know now that people are
Speaker 6: not running to get injections, but they'll poison the food.
Speaker 6: So we have to be mindful and be informed. But
Speaker 6: also just I pray over my food. I prayer is powerful, yes,
Speaker 6: and you blessing food that it may not harm you
Speaker 6: and just thanking God for it. I mean, he used
Speaker 6: to take blood pressure pills and he stopped it. He
Speaker 6: didn't stop it was a doctor. He completely stopped it.
Speaker 6: And he has taken control over his health and the
Speaker 6: lapse came out. He was completely perfect. But the lady
Speaker 6: was even surprised. She was like, for a forty three
Speaker 6: year old man and your testosterone and all that, And
Speaker 6: I mean that's because you're taking control.
Speaker 5: That's awesome, that is so awesome. You know, the VA
Speaker 5: and the military is quick to prescribe a pillow.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I didn't go for three years because of the incident
Speaker 5: I had in twenty twenty one for not taking the
Speaker 5: JAB and he tried to humiliate me and make me
Speaker 5: feel bad. But I went back recently just because of
Speaker 5: a few minor issues. And I'll give you this this,
Speaker 5: and like my mailbox is full of all these pills
Speaker 5: and everything now. And during my time in the army,
Speaker 5: they prescribed me fluxiteene and everything because you know, deployment
Speaker 5: after the deployment can't help, but just struggle with things,
Speaker 5: and their answer is pills when the real answer is
Speaker 5: just having a physically spiritually just And now I know
Speaker 5: through the blood of Jesus, everything that happened in the
Speaker 5: past is in the past, right, it's in the past.
Speaker 5: Just let go of it. And that's the thing I
Speaker 5: think people miss is you just let go right. We're human,
Speaker 5: we you know, like man, we remember the things during
Speaker 5: random times and we feel bad about it. But I
Speaker 5: focus now on changing the future because we can affect
Speaker 5: and change the future. We can't do anything about what
Speaker 5: happened in nineteen ninety two, but we can sure change
Speaker 5: the trajectory of this world. Because the people in charge
Speaker 5: air quotes for the listeners, they take orders from different
Speaker 5: people than we do. When when you hear many people
Speaker 5: thank God, and they'll say God, it's not the same
Speaker 5: God that we pray to.
Speaker 1: Yep, not the same God. Definitely.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I wanted to ask you real quick, hose where
Speaker 4: where you're at in Iraq.
Speaker 1: Carbala and Fukalsu.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, never there. I hadn't been there.
Speaker 1: Oh it was a big It was a big facility,
Speaker 1: was it had We had a very big defect that
Speaker 1: it was a big target from.
Speaker 4: The for the mortars and the rockets and.
Speaker 5: Baser was bad too. They actually had to build a
Speaker 5: permanent structure above the defect to to kind of deflect
Speaker 5: the mortars in the rockets because once they get the
Speaker 5: grid cord, it's it's on.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: They roll up with their trucks launch a couple and
Speaker 5: they're gone, yep, yeah, amen, this has been such a
Speaker 5: good conversation. It's interesting how so many people have had
Speaker 5: the same awakening process and you can kind of see
Speaker 5: that there are people who are seeing things and then saying, well,
Speaker 5: if that's a lie, this is a lie. People being
Speaker 5: awake to vaccines and everything else. Have you had success
Speaker 5: sharing in not just the Gospel of Jesus but kind
Speaker 5: of the things we've talked about tonight with other people?
Speaker 1: Yes, I had these three employees that there's there was
Speaker 1: one that I was I was talking to him and
Speaker 1: then out of the blue, this guy I just met
Speaker 1: him like two days before, but I didn't talk to
Speaker 1: him too much. And I was telling the other guy
Speaker 1: about explaining the flat earth. And this other guy he's Asian,
Speaker 1: he's from Vietnam. He comes out of nowhere yelling yes,
Speaker 1: and there's an ice wall and a fir moment, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so you know. So that one was
Speaker 1: not very hard to to convince. But another employee, because
Speaker 1: when we when we're in the road, we are in
Speaker 1: the road for hours and I put my podcast and
Speaker 1: I'm not ashame of it. If you like it, good
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, I'm sorry. That's why you're
Speaker 1: gonna listen. It's my truck. So a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of them that say that, okay, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: but they don't they don't buy it. But at least
Speaker 1: two of the of my employee when when they were
Speaker 1: my employees and a neighbor friend, immediately he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sold because he's a Christian. Yeah. We showed him
Speaker 1: the level of documentaries and he was like immediately like, yes,
Speaker 1: of course it makes sense.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Yes.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the taurrest and who else. I think
Speaker 1: that's about it.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: I had somebody else in mind, but I forgot.
Speaker 6: Well, we met a family at homeschools too, and the
Speaker 6: conversation came up and so they also are like very skeptic,
Speaker 6: and this is a person I can talk to about anything.
Speaker 6: Her name is Gina. And it's awesome because you know
Speaker 6: how hard it is to just have these just conversations
Speaker 6: that lead to nothing and is just in the matrix
Speaker 6: and having somebody that you can talk to about flat earth,
Speaker 6: about this fake space and gay and just everything that
Speaker 6: is going on. So we met another family and we
Speaker 6: have been honest with our family. We have shared, I'll
Speaker 6: share something and if they have questions or at least
Speaker 6: on my side, my family doesn't give me pushback.
Speaker 1: Or my family don't care. And also we are in
Speaker 1: a group in telegram which it's called it's df W.
Speaker 1: Two Urchers shout out to the group. We have been
Speaker 1: two meetings we'd like minded people here from df W.
Speaker 1: It's so refreshing to be we'd like minded people and
Speaker 1: you know, and there's just some of them are Christians,
Speaker 1: some of them are not. But it's refreshing just to
Speaker 1: be able to speak your mind and not you know,
Speaker 1: not talk about football and try to pretend that you
Speaker 1: know something about football because you don't watch mainstream sports
Speaker 1: at all. I don't watch what we're gonna export. So
Speaker 1: to me, I cannot click with people. I cannot, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's a little bit hard. But even a church
Speaker 1: sometimes they start talking about whatever Trump or whatever, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, well, yes, fellow Christian, I agree
Speaker 1: with whatever the mainstream media. But other than that, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful. God has been very great, very awesome
Speaker 1: to us, and I'm grateful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so honored and privileged to have met you guys,
Speaker 5: and if I'm ever the DFW region, I'll certainly we
Speaker 5: need to do get together sometime. There's a lot of people.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of a white people in Dallas Fort Worth. Oh, yes,
Speaker 5: there is a lot of people.
Speaker 1: There's white people too, and they do they do experiments,
Speaker 1: they do meetups to do experiments. I mean it's a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's actually taken action. Yeah, absolutely. And
Speaker 5: Rob Skiba son his name.
Speaker 1: Was, I forgot his name, but he have a podcast.
Speaker 5: He's actually if I remember, like around October twenty seventh
Speaker 5: or something, don't but I think he's doing something out there,
Speaker 5: some kind of truth or fest or something this fall.
Speaker 1: I heard about that, but I need to dig into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Likewise, I think I reached out to him. I didn't
Speaker 5: hear from him, but I didn't know he had a podcast.
Speaker 5: I know his wife came out and said a few
Speaker 5: things after he passed. And it's good to know that
Speaker 5: his son has picked up the mantle because Robskiba certainly
Speaker 5: had quite an impression on a lot of people who
Speaker 5: were awake today because of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I mean that's that's pretty awesome. You
Speaker 1: got anything to do?
Speaker 4: Add is there anything we missed?
Speaker 6: Those were the families that we basically, like you know,
Speaker 6: had these conversations and kind of knew, oh there's other
Speaker 6: people and then our neighbors. But we we are we
Speaker 6: are very open to sharing what we believe. We're not
Speaker 6: a closeted uh, We're not a closeted Christian or a
Speaker 6: closeted Biblical cosmology because I don't call myself a fires
Speaker 6: or I believe in biblical cosmology, you know, because that's
Speaker 6: the end of the day. Is not about the shape,
Speaker 6: It's about the truth, right, And I'm I'm very vocal
Speaker 6: with what I believe, but I do respect that people
Speaker 6: can be hesitant. And at first I was so excited
Speaker 6: to share it that I kind of had to, like,
Speaker 6: you have to leave bread crumbs. It's a lot, but
Speaker 6: the intention is not because you want to. You just
Speaker 6: you just are so mind blown because this truth is
Speaker 6: so big and you want to share with everybody. It's
Speaker 6: like you want to share Jesus with everybody. And I
Speaker 6: had to learn that that, you know, just God showing
Speaker 6: me you got to meet people where there at and
Speaker 6: leave bread crumbs. And because it's going to be a
Speaker 6: big shock for them, because just because it wasn't a
Speaker 6: shock for me, I can't expect that for other people.
Speaker 6: It's not going to be.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and bread crumbs is so and making. I found
Speaker 5: if you can just make somebody curious, that they will
Speaker 5: when they go home or when they remember the next day,
Speaker 5: they'll pull out their phone. And then you just got
Speaker 5: to hope and pray that they don't go to Google
Speaker 5: and click on the first link.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: I kind of try to tell people if you if
Speaker 5: you're interested, let me send you a link, because you know,
Speaker 5: everything is really uh gate kept, but even for me.
Speaker 4: We were at a.
Speaker 5: Military ceremony Jose and they were raising the flags of
Speaker 5: each branch. They're you know, Marines, the Air Force, and
Speaker 5: they're like the United States Space Force and I laugh
Speaker 5: out loud, and everybody turns around and looks at me,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I'll explain later. I apologize my favorite breadcomb.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's all I just I just say when
Speaker 1: they mentioned NASA, I just said, not a space agency.
Speaker 1: And then when they when they want me to explain further,
Speaker 1: I just tell them NASA is us I D For nerds,
Speaker 1: it's literally the same thing. It's the same money laundering scheme.
Speaker 1: It's USID for nerds. And when I start explaining how
Speaker 1: much money these people just get and money launder to
Speaker 1: get you nothing other than CGI and bogus explanation. It's
Speaker 1: never a straight answer. NASA is never a straight answer,
Speaker 1: not a space agency. So yeah, that's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite badcoms. And it works. Sometimes people get riled up,
Speaker 1: but I mean, it's it is what it is with
Speaker 1: some people.
Speaker 6: I love that people do get shot because they expect
Speaker 6: when you say something like that, they expect somebody that
Speaker 6: lives in the basement. That's a bumb But then you
Speaker 6: know people that know us and know our You have
Speaker 6: to see the fruits of a person and their life,
Speaker 6: and then you tell them that you believe in that.
Speaker 6: It's like their brain.
Speaker 1: Yes. And then I'm the drummer of my church and
Speaker 1: my son is a bass player. So when people they
Speaker 1: cannot put it together, it's like what So it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's just mind blowing for some people. It's a
Speaker 1: mind blowing.
Speaker 5: But he's gonna release the Firmament song at church next Sunday.
Speaker 1: That that should be that. Oh, that's awesome. That's a
Speaker 1: great idea.
Speaker 4: That blow their minds.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta be careful because the the lead
Speaker 1: singer on that, he's the pastor song he works for
Speaker 1: for for Raytheon. But I'm pretty sure he suspects because
Speaker 1: you have seen my post in Instagram. He's probably suspicious.
Speaker 1: But they are very respectful and we're very loving. We
Speaker 1: we love each other. They're very awesome.
Speaker 4: That's the most important part.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, but yeah, absolutely, But I mean it's important
Speaker 5: to know that, and the Bible supports it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: We we live in a world that is full of deceit.
Speaker 5: And again I've said this a thousand times. Satan cannot
Speaker 5: create a thing, but he can deceive and he can
Speaker 5: prefer it.
Speaker 4: And he does it, does it very well. I mean, obviously.
Speaker 1: He's the he's the master of mockery. That's why whenever
Speaker 1: you say something and you try to do an argument
Speaker 1: about the people, people just respond with mockery. That's because
Speaker 1: it's just they the matrix did a very good job
Speaker 1: at doing this mister Smith and Smith impression, because that's
Speaker 1: how that's what happened with with people. As soon as
Speaker 1: you the spell get activated, they just turn into mister
Speaker 1: Smith and agents myth and they just start mocking you
Speaker 1: with with no with no logic, and it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: well you lost the argument, but you just didn't notice,
Speaker 1: so you just disengaged. But we're living as we live
Speaker 1: in a very it's a spiritual world. It's a spiritual battle,
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's where you have to meet them. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you know it's they're they're they they are on the
Speaker 1: very very very hard spell.
Speaker 5: Ye and uh, it's a fight again physically with kem
Speaker 5: trail's with with mRNA, vaccines, with fluoride, and then spiritual
Speaker 5: battle right and everything, and they do it. They understand it.
Speaker 5: They put us under spells. That's why they call it
Speaker 5: spelling and cursive curse, right, and through movies and everything.
Speaker 5: That's why every time I go back and look at
Speaker 5: that movie they Live right, and the entire movie, he's
Speaker 5: trying to get people to put on these glasses. Look,
Speaker 5: how can you not see this? And then he at
Speaker 5: the end he takes out the tower and he breaks
Speaker 5: the spell and people are kind of like they wake up.
Speaker 5: And that's that's really what we're searching for. How can
Speaker 5: we take down that satellite to wake everybody. How can
Speaker 5: we get everyone's attention? Wake up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was totally sold that everything is programming programming
Speaker 1: after COVID and remembering Contagion because Imber, I remember watching Contagion.
Speaker 4: At twenty twelve, that's right, And then.
Speaker 1: When I watch Contagion in COVID, I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: absolute programming. This is how they did it. People watched
Speaker 1: it and they just went through it. They just they
Speaker 1: just ate it. The entire thing. It's all programming. So
Speaker 1: they are very, very very good on this MK ultra machine.
Speaker 1: It's just think it's too much for us and the hypnotism.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they reinforce it through television and uh news
Speaker 5: briefs on your social media, you know, COVID New COVID
Speaker 5: Strain and even back to ninety seven with an outbreak
Speaker 5: with Dustin Hoffman.
Speaker 4: That was another one that was promoting that movie.
Speaker 1: Traumatized me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you better find that monkey right, right, and all
Speaker 4: this nonsense.
Speaker 5: It was really but that's how they lay the groundwork
Speaker 5: for these spells, which they really are. Because every day
Speaker 5: people's watching the news, how many people died?
Speaker 4: Is this over right?
Speaker 5: And if you think about it, right, you're you're relying
Speaker 5: on some guy a thousand miles away to tell you
Speaker 5: how things are going and when you're free and when
Speaker 5: you can go outside. The whole thing, in reflection was
Speaker 5: just it's it's up there with the flat earth, Like
Speaker 5: I cannot believe that happened.
Speaker 1: That's how I figured it out. Everything I started figuring
Speaker 1: out in like in twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, because I
Speaker 1: started seeing the craziness in the media with Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and then when I went to the street, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is not the reality that I'm living. These people
Speaker 1: is lying to me. And that's how I started waking up.
Speaker 1: And then after twenty twenty I noticed the same patterns
Speaker 1: but worse. I'm like, oh, no, okay, I understand what's happening.
Speaker 1: These people is creating a matrix. It's an alternate reality,
Speaker 1: and then they enclose you in your apartment or in
Speaker 1: your house. You're just watching the screen, so you take
Speaker 1: it as reality, and that's your world. That's the reality
Speaker 1: for you in your brain. It's a prison.
Speaker 4: It is open air prison, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I remember the first pizza we ordered when after COVID started,
Speaker 5: got a knock on the door, went to open it.
Speaker 5: The pizza was on the ground and car was pulling
Speaker 5: away like he was gone, he didn't want any germs.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, guy, whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Now we look at it back and I cringe. And
Speaker 6: that's why I love to the video that you post
Speaker 6: about the mayor with the burger and the fries to
Speaker 6: get vaccinated. I love watching it to remind myself of
Speaker 6: what these people were capable of doing and how I
Speaker 6: mean it's it was just very evil, very evil, and
Speaker 6: we can't forget. We can't forget because we can't allow
Speaker 6: anything like that to happen again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, because they may not do it to this
Speaker 5: generation or the next one, but it probably did the
Speaker 5: same thing in nineteen eighteen, right, the same game plan,
Speaker 5: and they probably did it in the eighteen hundreds and
Speaker 5: the Black plague. It was all nonsense, and it's to
Speaker 5: control people because honestly, the government doesn't have power if
Speaker 5: the people don't have any fear, so they have to
Speaker 5: keep us a constant fear.
Speaker 1: Yep. That we're looking into Karain theory also, and we
Speaker 1: are seeing the patterns with this cam too, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I still don't understand the entire thing, but I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that it makes sense. So I'm gonna keep looking into
Speaker 1: it and just learning, just keep learning, because I mean
Speaker 1: everything is it's a lie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And even the nuke theory now is like hmm, is
Speaker 5: that just another scare test nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, there's no nuclear land, there's nothing because it's
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, for a long time ago. Sagain, they
Speaker 1: would have used it a long time ago. I think
Speaker 1: that it's it's even a scare tactic.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And again if your Bible believer, God's singly person who
Speaker 5: can destroy the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing with asteroids.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna happen exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And when when you think about it, I feel like
Speaker 6: I live. Let like I feel free knowing all this.
Speaker 6: I feel free because these people are trapped with this
Speaker 6: lieon narrative that some thing can come and hit the
Speaker 6: earth and or that there's this war for nuclear nuclear disaster.
Speaker 6: I mean, the Bible is very clear, He's the only
Speaker 6: one that can destroy this earth.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And what's been in the news the last four to
Speaker 5: eight hours, Trump says I've moved to nuclear subs and
Speaker 5: range of Russia because of Medvedev's words or whatever. So
Speaker 5: they subtly put the stuff in the news just to
Speaker 5: kind of reinforce our need for the government and for
Speaker 5: other men, right for man, for the people who control
Speaker 5: the levers of the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just smoking mirrors.
Speaker 5: That's all it is. That's all it is. We're down
Speaker 5: to the last few minutes. Was there any other bullet
Speaker 5: points or things that you wanted to cover that we
Speaker 5: haven't had a chance to yet.
Speaker 1: Uh No, just an experience that we had back in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen that after we came to flat Earth, we
Speaker 1: did a parachute jump from in Puerto Rico and you
Speaker 1: could see it was eleven thousand miles up into the sky,
Speaker 1: and that's in you jump, and I remember that I've
Speaker 1: I just jumped in. I enjoyed the entire experience, but
Speaker 1: and you could you could see everything, and I went,
Speaker 1: I came down, and something didn't add up in my
Speaker 1: head and I didn't understand why. And then when they
Speaker 1: showed me the pictures, the pictures, you can see the
Speaker 1: curve because they used to GoPro camera. So you just
Speaker 1: just let it, just let it fly because you don't
Speaker 1: understand anything. And as soon as Flattered came into my life,
Speaker 1: like I understood. I remember immediately I was like, that's
Speaker 1: what it was. Flat everything was I could see everything,
Speaker 1: literally everything, the entire island. It's one hundred by thirty five,
Speaker 1: one hundred miles by thirty five, and I could see
Speaker 1: the entire flatness. And Yeah, it hit me very hard.
Speaker 1: These people they do it on purpose. Then they showed
Speaker 1: you these pictures with the Fresh Eye lands. And then
Speaker 1: like last year, I showed this picture to one of
Speaker 1: my uh brothers and brother in christ and in a retreat,
Speaker 1: and the first thing he tells me is, oh, I
Speaker 1: love how you can see the curve of the earth.
Speaker 1: And I am. I immediately, without without hesitatingly, there's no
Speaker 1: curve because that's a fish islands. At that high you
Speaker 1: will not see a curve. And I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just met this guy like two hours.
Speaker 4: Ago, and I'm like, bombs on it, Like I.
Speaker 1: Hope he don't suspect, you know, but they do this
Speaker 1: on purpose. All these dollsay's done on purpose.
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. And that was eleven thousand feet you
Speaker 5: jumped right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, and you could see that entire fly
Speaker 1: and you can see the entire island from side to side,
Speaker 1: and that was something that my brain couldn't comprehend at
Speaker 1: the moment. And then when I understood that, yeah it's flat,
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, that's why I was able to see
Speaker 1: it that way. Like your brain like reconfigures as soon
Speaker 1: as you know you understand the truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Even when I climbed in Colorado and Magnitude Springs in Colorado,
Speaker 5: that was only fifty five hundred feet or whatever. You
Speaker 5: can see almost Kansas, I mean thinking back, and that
Speaker 5: was even before I was awake. You're like, yeah, it's
Speaker 5: it's right in front of us. And just to think
Speaker 5: about the effort that they go through and the lives
Speaker 5: they concoct, and the thousands of hours you know, in
Speaker 5: a using math to try to debunk the Bible and
Speaker 5: to deceive people is really what it's all about.
Speaker 4: It's what they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just moving the go post. I used to
Speaker 1: drive a lot in New Mexico and I remember driving
Speaker 1: and I saw these big feel all these stretch all
Speaker 1: very far, and my everything that came when I thought
Speaker 1: about it, it was like, okay, well the curves after that.
Speaker 1: Every time the curvese after that, dude, So you keep
Speaker 1: moving the go post, but the curve is not there anyway,
Speaker 1: it's just in your head. So yeah, that's about it
Speaker 1: with like I do.
Speaker 5: That's awesome, what a great conversation we had the fast
Speaker 5: fast ninety minutes. But it's been an honor and a
Speaker 5: pleasure to meet you both. And as we do, I'll
Speaker 5: give you all the last word.
Speaker 6: Oh George, I want to thank you because I've enjoyed
Speaker 6: so much listening to every episode. You are such a
Speaker 6: respectful person and you definitely have a gift to do
Speaker 6: this and an anointing, and so I'm very grateful that
Speaker 6: you gave us this opportunity and I really cherish to
Speaker 6: hear all these testimonies. I think that I would encourage
Speaker 6: people to speak more of these testimonies because it will
Speaker 6: give glory to God and that no matter what rabbit
Speaker 6: hole you go to, it's always going to lead you
Speaker 6: to Jesus. And that if I can ask, anything that
Speaker 6: you can do to fight back with the things that
Speaker 6: are happening is prayer. Prayer is crucial, and it's we
Speaker 6: have access to the Father. He's so close. So I
Speaker 6: encourage anybody that listens to this episode that when you
Speaker 6: do go down these rabbit holes. Always pray before you
Speaker 6: go to it, and then pray after because you want
Speaker 6: the you know, they these people know that now they
Speaker 6: can just put so much information to kind of throw
Speaker 6: you off guard and deceive you. They can they can
Speaker 6: give you a half truth and then they can throw
Speaker 6: you off to something else. And so just use discernment
Speaker 6: and keep your eyes on Jesus. I look up all
Speaker 6: the time now and this has changed my life. I
Speaker 6: cannot go back after this. You just you know, you
Speaker 6: can't put on you know, you put on the glasses,
Speaker 6: but it's you can't go back to that. And I'm
Speaker 6: grateful that we have this opportunity to share our testimony,
Speaker 6: our journey to the truth, and that we have all
Speaker 6: these testimonies through your podcast to share with others, because
Speaker 6: I have listened to a lot of podcasts, but I
Speaker 6: was telling jose what is it with George that I
Speaker 6: enjoy so much his podcast? And it's because these are
Speaker 6: all genuine people from all walks of life that are
Speaker 6: sharing their story, and you are always so respectful even
Speaker 6: if you don't agree with a point. And it's like
Speaker 6: I love listening to Josh Monday's episodes too, because he
Speaker 6: also has a very respectful, kind way to approach these conversations.
Speaker 6: So that would that would be what I would say.
Speaker 6: Just pray and share your testimony. Don't keep it to yourself.
Speaker 6: Somebody out there is needing to hear your testimony.
Speaker 4: Amen.
Speaker 5: And that's when you were saying that it reminded me
Speaker 5: of walking through Walmart without a mask, and there were
Speaker 5: people who looked at you like you were a monster,
Speaker 5: like you were killing Grandma. But there was also people
Speaker 5: who just kind of gave you the nod like good.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm glad you know, yes?
Speaker 4: So Amen.
Speaker 5: God bless the both of you and your family and
Speaker 5: your willingness to come on and share your journey. It's
Speaker 5: been awesome. And to all the listeners, thank you for
Speaker 5: your continued support. Much love and God bless each and
Speaker 5: every one of you, and remember to keep your head
Speaker 5: on a swivel and God bless you all. And until
Speaker 5: we meet again, my friends, we will see you.
Speaker 9: I know it's being strugne. I know you've had spain.
Speaker 9: I don't feeling tired, hell down about all the way. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I know you feel you smile ain't the same.
Speaker 3: I saw were gone from here. I feel like you've
Speaker 3: lost your way.
Speaker 2: Don't give up, No, don't give in, never is home,
Speaker 2: don't let all the primise.
Speaker 3: It ain't dumb.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a plan.
Speaker 3: Why it's all right? Time?
Speaker 2: God may me come? What a fright coming up?
Speaker 10: Timm, I can see the street beside you. Child's are
Speaker 10: putting up five. Oh, you're stronger than anything.
Speaker 3: You are. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're accepting
Speaker 3: a bad valued beautiful you're shoving ride. Yeah, you live
Speaker 3: and breathing. Move, you can hold your head a pie.
Speaker 3: Don't give up, No, don't give in. Neverless home.
Speaker 2: Don't they gone on the primise?
Speaker 3: It ain't done and it's gone. I'm playing want some wainetail?
Speaker 2: The god of me come, don't give up, No, don't
Speaker 2: give in you never love home?
Speaker 3: Don't let go on the privice. It ain't con like
Speaker 3: it's worth living.
Speaker 2: Wat's a way town, The god of bavy cold. Why
Speaker 2: surprase down, God cold?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, what surprase now? The god of steamy come? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: gott tam coll.
Speaker 3: Oh, don't give up, No, don't give in. Never's home?
Speaker 3: Do they go the Farmis I mad a done? Yes?
Speaker 3: Got a playing waits.
Speaker 8: God of if it comes, And don't give, no dog giving,
Speaker 8: never hold, don't get go the trimes getting done.
Speaker 3: Love is worth living. Watson and done. The god of
Speaker 3: every coors ah, the god of needles waits done, the
Speaker 3: god of any.
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