WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.120 It is our festival of Teas brought to you by 2 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:03.919 the UGA, so stay tuned for that. 3 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:06.559 Speaking of the UGA, our next. 4 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.199 Guest is the executive director of the UGA, and we're 5 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:12.199 only going to talk golf for the next twenty minutes. 6 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:16.280 Easton Folster, Happy Monday, buddy. How are we doing right? 7 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:20.039 I'm doing fantastic. And you guys couldn't have picked a 8 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:22.120 better song and sucked us hoping you would. That's just 9 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:23.480 that made my heart happy. 10 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:25.839 There you go, And we're not only going to talk 11 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:29.640 golf because your text offering your presence on this radio 12 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:32.960 show came with a mandate. And Easton, even though you're 13 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.119 a local boy, you happen to be a lifelong fan 14 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.079 of the New York Knickerbockers. Let me start with the 15 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:41.719 origin story. When did you and why did you become 16 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:42.280 a Knicks fan? 17 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:46.520 Yeah, it's a good question, you know. Obviously, being a 18 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:51.560 nineties kid, the Knicks were a little more relevant, you know, 19 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:53.600 back then than they are, you know in the previous 20 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.520 two decades now. Obviously I had the jazz troup for 21 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:59.479 but for some reason I hooked on with the Knicks. 22 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.520 Was a big trick Ewing fan and I will say 23 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.359 that I've remained loyal through some dark years, and now 24 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:07.879 there seems to be somewhat of a light at the 25 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:10.799 end of the tunnel. So things are looking a little brighter, 26 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:11.480 that's for sure. 27 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:16.760 So I wonder what you find most likable about this 28 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:19.640 iteration of the Knicks, Because Porter, my producer, is a 29 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.159 younger Nick fan, and so he has this idea in 30 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.040 his head that the Mellow years were awesome, and they 31 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:28.400 just weren't. They won a couple of playoff series and look, 32 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:32.200 I'm a mellow guy, love mellow I just it's all 33 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.680 bottom line this to me, this is the most likable 34 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.120 Nick team, literally since nineteen ninety nine. 35 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.239 What what do you like most about this team? 36 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.200 Yeah? I agree, they're fun to watch, you know. I 37 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:46.359 think the compelling component is the fact that I feel 38 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:49.480 like they're never out of a game. You know. I've 39 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:53.239 told some friends and you know, solo basketball fans, that 40 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:55.879 I feel like, if the Knicks can get to the 41 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:01.599 fourth quarter within ten points and Jalen Brunson is in 42 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:03.719 the game, we have a shot. And I think being 43 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:06.760 able to watch a player like him with as clutch 44 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:10.360 as he's been, it's amazing. I mean it almost feels 45 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.759 like this this confidence when he has the ball, that's 46 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.520 something magical is going to happen. So even if we're down, 47 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.039 which we've obviously seen in the Celtics series, the Piston 48 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.159 series as well, do you have a chance with Jalen 49 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.879 Brunson And he's a closer. And it's been a lot 50 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.120 of fun to watch. But it's a gretty team. They hustle, 51 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.039 they play hard. I wish they wouldn't dig these holes. 52 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:34.199 I'm sure I speak for all Knicks fans, but they 53 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.919 find a way to claw out and it's been heart 54 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.560 stopping sometimes, but it's been a lot of fun up 55 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:41.120 to this point. 56 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:45.840 Did you anticipate Friday Night happening the way it did 57 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.639 at all? I mean, I finished the show and drove 58 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.039 home and you know, a what, man, it was kind 59 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.919 of fun because I will say in this space, when 60 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.560 you do this for a living, and as long as 61 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.280 I've done it now, you know, approaching twenty years full time, 62 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.080 you do have to be agnostic a little bit. You know, 63 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.879 you do have to kind of put the biases and 64 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:09.400 fandom aside in order to do the job the right way. 65 00:03:09.479 --> 00:03:12.159 Like I would love for the Jazz to be good again, 66 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:16.400 but I cannot be dishonest about where they're at. Whenever 67 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:18.840 anybody asks me, who do you cheer locally for, I 68 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.000 said all of them. I want everybody to win, because 69 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.599 when everybody's winning, more people listening to sports soccer radio, 70 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.439 and it's better for my bottom line. It's better for 71 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:30.560 my business. But the PTSD of being a Knick fan 72 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:33.479 for really since I was ten eleven years old, really 73 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:36.560 settled in. And I approached that game on Friday night 74 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.840 with tremendous trepidation, and even when they were up like forty, 75 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:41.639 I'm like, I still don't feel like this was real. 76 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:44.000 So what stood out most to you about the way 77 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:46.479 they just blew out the Celtics on Friday. 78 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.000 Well, I'm with you. I was terrified, you know, when 79 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.000 we lost Game five the way that we did, even 80 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:56.479 without Tatum, I was. I was really nervous. And it 81 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:00.319 just has felt like Nick's never really blow team out, 82 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.240 you know. If anything, They've been getting blown out in 83 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.039 games and have caught back, which has been a lot 84 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.599 of fun. But I had I wish I could say 85 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:10.319 I saw the Nicks blown them out. I didn't have 86 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.120 that level of confidence. I thought it'd be a great game, 87 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.519 but it seemed like, you know, they had their foot 88 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:17.879 on the gas and they didn't let it go. And 89 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.800 I'm with you. Even when we got up twenty thirty 90 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:24.360 and I think we even touched forty plus points, you know, 91 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.800 there was still some trepidation, like you said that the 92 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.920 bottom was going to fall out, and you know, as 93 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.240 we know with coach Tibbs, of course kept his starters 94 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.879 in the whole entire game, so I'm not even sure 95 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:37.800 that he was confident that we're going to hold on. 96 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.439 But exciting way to win the game, and a lot 97 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:43.360 of momentum going into the Eastern Conference finals, So it's exciting. 98 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.879 What is your confidence level against this Pacer team that 99 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.519 just has a grip of physical pitbull wings. They just 100 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.079 want to fight everybody all the time. 101 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.040 Yeah, I think it's going to be a great series. 102 00:04:56.079 --> 00:05:00.920 I think we'll match up well. I'd really I think 103 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.600 that Knicks fans might be making a mistake and kind 104 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.279 of overlooking the Pacers and looking onto the finals. That 105 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:09.720 would be a mistake. I mean, Pacers man handled a 106 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:13.399 really good Cavs team and so I could see this 107 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.560 going six. I could go see it going seven, but 108 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.079 of course, as a true Knicks fan, I think I 109 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.639 think we'll get it done. You know, I'd have to 110 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.639 say maybe Nix and Nixon six would be my prediction. 111 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.360 In fact, I think that's what we've done. The last 112 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:28.319 two series is one in game six, so hopefully we 113 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:29.199 get that done again. 114 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.720 Does it make it sweeter that it's been so long? 115 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:34.519 I mean, I've kind of gone back and forth on 116 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:38.040 this because certainly, as a fan, every year, you want 117 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:40.439 your team to have a shot, and if for honest, 118 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.240 you know, the Knicks have not had a shot it 119 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.439 doing anything since nineteen ninety nine. I mean, it literally 120 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.199 has been twenty five years, and if for honest, the 121 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:51.639 Jazz haven't had a chance to win a championship in 122 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:53.800 my opinion, probably in that same timeframe. 123 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.480 But during that time, the Jazz had d. 124 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:59.519 Will and Booze and Memo, and then they had Heyward 125 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:01.720 in favor in that group. Then they had Mitchell and 126 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.920 Gobert and good teams. So I know the Jazz right 127 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.120 now are nowhere close to competing, and we have a 128 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.839 fan base that's a little bit disenfranchised with the products. 129 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.800 And my hope is, you know, when the Jazz are 130 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.680 able to get this thing figured out, and they're back 131 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:22.600 to respectability and competition. Our community here and our basketball 132 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:25.279 fan base here will be reminded of how fun spring 133 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:28.680 basketball is. So I know, as a long suffering Nick fan, 134 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.519 you probably prefer to have better teams over the past 135 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:32.240 twenty five years. 136 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:34.000 But does it make it any sweeter that it's been 137 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:34.480 so long? 138 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:38.480 Yeah? I think so, And I think most Knicks fans 139 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.600 would say that. I mean, if anyone saw the social 140 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.959 media buzz around the Knicks fans going absolutely crazy in 141 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:45.680 New York City, I mean, on one side, it's a 142 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:49.000 little embarrassing. I mean, all we did was win two series, 143 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:52.319 but they celebrated, you know, like we won the championship. 144 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:56.800 So I think you see that that somewhat of a relief, 145 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:58.920 you know, from fans that it's been so long that 146 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.399 we've to this point, and it certainly is sweet. You know, 147 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.879 I've I've had to stop myself from you know, day 148 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.399 dreaming to what might be and in a few weeks 149 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.240 we still have a really, really long way to go 150 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:16.920 for that. But no, it's it's it's been what you know, 151 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.519 two decades or twenty five years since you know, we 152 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.519 got to this point and so I think, you know, 153 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:26.199 for all Knicks fans, there's this certain release that you know, 154 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.480 it's been satisfying to see the team perform. I listened 155 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:33.160 to your previous segment about the Jazz playing the lottery 156 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:35.240 offs and some of their struggles and you know, and 157 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:38.800 tearing it down and can't help but be reminded that 158 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.759 that's what the Knicks were doing for the better part 159 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:43.959 of the last two decades. And so it feels it 160 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:45.839 feels good, you know, to be at this point, and 161 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:47.160 hopefully we can keep it rolling. 162 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:49.839 All right, Before we will, we do need to talk 163 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:52.839 a little golf. But before we get there, I have 164 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.839 your Instagram pulled up and number one, congrats, that's number one. 165 00:07:57.319 --> 00:07:59.279 I was going to ask you if you're raising your 166 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:00.480 young your young. 167 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.959 Fella as a fan of this team, because one of 168 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:08.759 the things, like my poor son has grown up Jazz, Nicks, Jets. 169 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.600 Luckily we have the Yankees, but I feel bad that 170 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:14.600 I ever encouraged him to cheer for the Knicks or 171 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.720 the Jets. But he was at one of the games 172 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.160 and he posted a picture in his John Starch jersey 173 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:21.920 that I bought him when he was about the same 174 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:23.639 age as your boy, And I see you've got your 175 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.279 boy in a Jalen Brunson jersey. 176 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:29.600 Yeah that's right. Yeah, No, And he's a you know, 177 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:31.680 for only being four years old, he's a real fan. 178 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.799 I mean he can name I would say at least 179 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:35.919 six or seven players on the team. So for being 180 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:38.799 four years old, i'd call him a real fan. I 181 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:40.600 mean he's watching the games with me, and he's and 182 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:44.080 he's excited. And you know, as you mentioned, wife expecting 183 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:47.799 and I've told her, if we're lucky enough to win 184 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.600 it all, Jayalen, the name Jalen is certainly in play. 185 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.639 You know, she's not necessarily a fan, but I've just 186 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.799 warned her that Jalen is in play. So you might 187 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:02.240 see that here in a few months. But yeah, I 188 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:05.000 mean we're excited, and I know my son is too. 189 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.039 He of course didn't have to suffer through the long 190 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.480 decades of ineptitude. But yeah, we're pretty pumped at our residents. 191 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.000 Thinking, Jalen Spencer fulster, how's that land? 192 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.159 I like it. I'm all in. 193 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.480 You put a basketball in his hand, can he shoot it? 194 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:20.120 Did he dribble it? 195 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.120 All? He can play? Yeah, he's an athlete, you know. 196 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:24.879 Right now, he's just kind of trying to figure it 197 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:27.480 all out soccer, te ball, you know, basketball. But he 198 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.440 can play, and you know, like I said, he's he watches, 199 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.000 he observes, and you know, he's a big fan. So 200 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:35.240 Jalen's is his favorite player. We went to the Knicks 201 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.600 Jazz game when they were here in town and he 202 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.440 caught Jalen's attention. He waved at him, and of course 203 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:41.960 that just made his day. I think it made my 204 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.000 day more than his. But yeah, he's a big fan. 205 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:47.799 Have you put a golf club in this young fellaw's 206 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:51.200 hand yet, Yeah, a. 207 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.240 Little bit, just a little, you know, a little plastic set. 208 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.799 Golf's tricky, as you know, I mean, we're we're adults. 209 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:58.679 I still haven't figured it out. And I've been playing, 210 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:00.360 you know, for the better part of a deck gage. 211 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.080 So I feel like that's a long road and maybe 212 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:06.639 I can get him some more quicker than golf. But eventually, yeah, 213 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:08.240 we'll put a golf club in his hand and see 214 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:10.519 what he can do. But got a long ways. 215 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:13.639 To go for that, hopefully, Because when I was younger, 216 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:15.960 I thought it was boring. I did not want to 217 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.799 play golf. My grandfather may he rest in peace. Loved it, 218 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.159 and he always said, like your natural athlete, you could 219 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:23.759 be good at this if you wanted to, And then 220 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:25.679 I would just get frustrated and quit, and I'd want 221 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:27.600 to go shoot buckets. I want to go play basketball 222 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.440 or football. So are you planning on fighting through the 223 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.080 boardom to encourage him to keep playing the game, or 224 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.000 you just kind of going to kind of let him 225 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:37.360 find out what he loves on his own. 226 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.039 Yeah, probably more of the latter, you know, figure out 227 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.480 what he likes, you know, I think exposure is important, 228 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:45.720 especially for kids, you know, expose him to everything and 229 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.840 let them kind of pick what they excel at and 230 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:50.799 what they enjoy. And if it's golf, great, you know, 231 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:54.759 that would make me certainly a happy father, you know. 232 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.639 But not going to push him, you know, in that 233 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.159 in that direction. But you know, hopefully, you know, like 234 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.679 I did, and it sounds like maybe you did as 235 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.200 a youth, he'll pick it up recreationally and you know, 236 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.519 from there we'll see what happens. But yeah, no, you're right, 237 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:12.080 I mean, eighteen holes as a kid back in, that's 238 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:14.120 long and it takes a little bit of time to 239 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:17.440 learn to enjoy that. But we'll see what happens with them. 240 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:19.840 What do you think it is about this game, the 241 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:22.639 game of golf that seems to draw people in on 242 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:25.120 a level where it truly turns into an addiction. 243 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:27.759 And I'm not even kidding. What do you think it is. 244 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.840 About how people just get addicted to the game. 245 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.480 I think it's I think it's those little moments of success, 246 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.639 which of course are relative to the golfer. You know, 247 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.919 if you're incredible and you're really talented, obviously you know 248 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.840 your success and that little addiction might be shooting a 249 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:53.120 sixty four, sixty three, going for the course record, winning championships, 250 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:54.639 you know. But for the rest of us, it might 251 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:57.799 be flushing a fore iron and that feel of, you know, 252 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:01.960 hitting a green in regulation and a drive that's straight 253 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:06.440 and far. And it's those I've always found you can 254 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:09.639 get a golfer to hit, you know, just one, two 255 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.639 or three of those moments in a round where they 256 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.679 think that was a lot of fun. I think I 257 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.960 can do that again. I think that's where the addiction 258 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.159 comes in, as Wow, I just flushed a foe iron. 259 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:22.080 That's how it feels. I'm going to go back next 260 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.799 week and I'm going to give it another shot, and 261 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.559 if you can turn that into a few times each round, 262 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:30.559 that's where the development comes. And that's where you know, 263 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:32.679 those moments of you know, like you've kind of said that, 264 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.039 that addiction which I think we've all had with golf. 265 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.639 Those that you know love the game, it's those small 266 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.720 moments of success that give you a taste and you 267 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:44.000 know what, you know, the really good player, you know, 268 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.600 experiences on you know, on every shot basis. We don't 269 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:49.919 get those very often, but with golf, you know, on 270 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:51.559 any given day, you know, there's a lot of players 271 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.759 that can hit a shot like a professional. They do 272 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:57.480 it consistently. We do it maybe once around, But it's 273 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.799 that one shot that I think gives people that itch. 274 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.840 You know what's interesting you reference how the pros are 275 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.360 so consistent with it. I don't know that I fully 276 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:11.399 understood their ability to figure out problems and get out 277 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:14.720 of trouble until I went down to Bay Hill as 278 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.120 an honorary observer and followed Sam Stevens' Nick Taylor around 279 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.320 the course. And then when you look at some of 280 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:24.759 the stats like fairways hitting regulation or greens hitting regulation, 281 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.840 these guys aren't hitting every fairway they're not hitting every green, 282 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.799 and watching their ability to problem solve has become like 283 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.120 a fascination of mine. Have you noticed the same as 284 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.759 you've watched some of these pros, Like yes, to your point, 285 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.000 they're going to hit most of their shots pretty flush, but. 286 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.399 They're not hitting every fairway. They're not hitting every green. 287 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:45.399 They've got to figure out how to solve problems and 288 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:47.279 get out of trouble. That that to me is like 289 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:48.360 the line of delineation. 290 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.519 Sure, and you know, and I think it's you know, 291 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.759 it's avoiding the big mistakes that I think amateur players 292 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.399 you know, tend to make the big numbers you just 293 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:00.600 don't see as often from the prosolical out and make 294 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.039 a number of double bogies and triple bogeys in around. 295 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:06.639 And that's what kind of adds to that score. And 296 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:09.000 those guys, you know, bogie for them is bad because, 297 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:12.639 like you said, they're able to calculate, they're able to 298 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:17.080 see risk, probably unlike you know, you know, every diameter player, 299 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:19.879 and so you know, I think they avoid the big 300 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:24.200 numbers more often than probably you know, the double digit 301 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.799 handicapped player is. And then just the talent, you know, 302 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:29.759 to be able to pull off some of the shots. 303 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:33.159 I'll say that maybe I can see the shot that's required, 304 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.480 but I don't have the talent to pull the shot off. 305 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:38.279 So I think that combination of you know, if talent 306 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.240 and risk management is really what makes you know professional 307 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:43.200 golfers the elite. 308 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:47.080 You have a favorite golfer to watch right now or historically? 309 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:48.480 Is there one that comes to mind? 310 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:53.120 Yeah, you know, I hate to be right on the bandwagon, 311 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:56.600 but I just there's I can't find anything not to 312 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.480 like about Scotti Scheffler, both from a playing standpoint and 313 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:02.240 just from a you know who he is as a person. 314 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.600 Of course, I don't know him personally, but from everything 315 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:09.440 I see, just seems like a very likable guy. Like 316 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.960 the way he plays his swing a little unorthodox. You 317 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:16.960 don't see that every day, and it's consistent and just 318 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:19.159 wins and so, like I said, I hate to jump 319 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.799 on the bandwagon of probably where everybody else is at, 320 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.440 but I when he's in contention, I certainly like to 321 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.039 jump in front of the TV and watch. He's probably 322 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:29.480 one of my favorites right now. 323 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:30.440 When he's dialed in. 324 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.000 And I've talked about this on the show with a 325 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.279 lot of my golf guests quite a bit. One of 326 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:38.480 my big regrets is that I was not dialed into 327 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.399 the game of golf when Tiger was Tiger. I wasn't watching. 328 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.639 I had an opportunity. In nineteen ninety seven. I was 329 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:47.200 living with my grandparents, and as I referenced, my grandfather 330 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.200 was a big golfer, and for whatever reason Easton, it 331 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.440 is known on the show that my grandfather named me 332 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:55.240 nickname me Spencer Doobie when I was two years old. 333 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:58.080 I don't know why. There's no way he knew what 334 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:01.960 that was. I can promise you that. And so nineteen 335 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:05.360 ninety seven, I'm a senior in high school and I'm 336 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:09.440 downstairs and my grandfather yells down, do be come upstairs. 337 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:12.200 This young man is about to make history. So we 338 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.240 watch the final round of Tiger at Augusta. But I 339 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:17.960 did not see Tiger at peak Tiger very much. I've 340 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:20.159 watched some documentaries, I read the book, and I find 341 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.120 them to be very fascinating. 342 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:27.240 And I know that it is it is very, very 343 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:28.559 dangerous to compare. 344 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.840 Like golf gatekeepers in a way remind me a little 345 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.840 bit of NBA gatekeepers. When the Jordan stuff comes up, 346 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:36.360 like there are so many people, and by the way, 347 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.480 I'm one of them. There's so many people that will 348 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.399 say Mike is the greatest and he'll always be the greatest. 349 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:43.559 Do not come to me with Kobe or Lebron or 350 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.919 I don't want to talk about it, Okay, And whenever 351 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:50.480 I draw comparison to Tiger, it's like sacrilegious for golf gatekeepers. 352 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.200 But at what point do we start talking about Scotty 353 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:55.919 as potentially in the midst of the beginning of a 354 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:58.279 run that kind of feels like it did when Tiger 355 00:16:58.399 --> 00:16:59.000 was being Tiger. 356 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.519 If that makes sense, Yeah, it does, and I think 357 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:04.720 we're there. I think the run has at least started, 358 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.160 you know, like you said, now, what made Tiger so 359 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.519 great is you know, the how long the run really 360 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:12.400 was and the dominant really was. I mean we saw 361 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.440 with Rory he came out too, you know, when he 362 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:19.160 was a younger golfer and he started that journey and 363 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.000 I think he had if I'm not mistaken, he had 364 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:23.839 four majors right off the bat and then had to 365 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.440 wait eleven years until he just recently won the Masters. 366 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.279 And so you know, there's some cautionary tell there as 367 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:33.599 well as yes, I think he's on that path. I 368 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.240 think there's been other golfers like Rory, like Jordan Speif 369 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:40.400 that have come out hot and then they've fizzled. So 370 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.240 to be able to be that dominant, that consistent, I 371 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:47.039 think that's what made Tiger, and that's what made Jack great. 372 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:47.319 Now. 373 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:50.640 I think Scotty is certainly right there on the path. 374 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.519 Only twenty eight he's got, you know, I would say 375 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.240 fifteen twenty years of competitive golf left, and we'll see 376 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:01.079 what he can do. You know, Tiger was fifteen majors. 377 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:04.880 Scotty now three, so he's got a little ways to go. 378 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:06.680 But I mean, I'd be shocked if you if you 379 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.279 asked me to predict, I'd be shocked if he's not 380 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:11.240 at least at double digit majors by the end of 381 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.400 his career. So he's a lot of fun to watch, 382 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.519 and I think we're watching something special and we'll see 383 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:16.039 what happens. 384 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:19.480 Does the live thing move the needle for you at all? 385 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.319 I mean I was gonna ask you, like, I don't 386 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:24.799 know how it would affect your job, but in you know, 387 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.279 in and around the game of golf, it still seems 388 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.640 to dominate the conversation part of me feels like we've 389 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.519 settled into acceptance, if that makes sense, where like, all right, 390 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.720 Live is just gonna be around, and it's just gonna 391 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:40.480 be another tour. It's going to be like the USFL 392 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:42.839 or Minor League Baseball or whatever it is. It's just, 393 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.559 you know, for a while, it was okay, the merger's happening, 394 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:51.640 and then there were negotiations and Jay Monahan and the 395 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.119 leader of the pift Fund, we're kind of like, all right, 396 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.039 we're making progress and there's no progress. Then the President 397 00:18:58.039 --> 00:18:59.960 gets involved, like okay, maybe this is going to move 398 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.079 the needle, and it hasn't, and we're just kind of 399 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.000 in the place where we've come to this acceptance that 400 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:07.480 Live is going to be lived, and the tour is 401 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:09.240