Speaker 1: Welcome to Way Did You Talk Today, the gold standard
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Speaker 2: Monday.
Speaker 1: We have a big, big lineup today. Yanni the Greek
is gonna join us with the Steam Report. We're gonna
talk Monday night football, early action on college football in NFL.
Crack Man's gonna join us. We're gonna talk on Monday
night football. Prop for the Jaguars Chiefs. Steve Merrill, You're
gonna give you two baseball breakdowns as well as a
Monday night football breakdown and special treat but they were not.
NHL is getting ready to start, so car Mine's gonna
jump in here at the end, give us a couple
of NHL futures and get us ready for the start
of this season.
Speaker 2: Got a big show. You guys know what to do.
Hit that like button. Let's bring in Yannie. It's Monday.
Speaker 1: We gotta get this day. It started off on the
right foot. Yanni, how are you my friend?
Speaker 3: Never better man?
Speaker 4: God bless America. What a country just making eleven betting sports.
It's a great, great country we live in. Waking up
Monday and looking at the accounts, it's a beautiful thing. Man,
it's a beautiful thing, but I think a couple are
gonna be shut down by the end of the day.
Speaker 3: They just crushed the.
Speaker 4: College football and a lot of those live bets. I
can't use them for subscribers. But once they start digging
into those live screens and start beating up WNBA and
beating up like NFL college football, they start shutting those
down quickly.
Speaker 3: So just throwing it out there.
Speaker 4: Anybody got any good credit accounts, hit me up, let's
make some money. But with that said, it's a busy day,
busy week ahead. We have baseball today, two playoff games,
two big playoff games. Especially for my Philadelphia Phillies, not
in a good spot today at all.
Speaker 3: Last thing, I wanted.
Speaker 4: To see where the Dodgers has road favorites in a
must win game for Philadelphia and starting to see some
money coming in on Philadelphia. I do not like that.
Just throwing it out there. I don't have a position
on the game. You know, I have a future on
the Phillies. I have a future on Seattle, so I'm
a little bit biased on both of those teams. I'm
hoping Philly can get it done as a home dog,
But like I said, not liking what I see with
that betting line as far as the Cubs in Milwaukee
game goes.
Speaker 3: Good balance, not one way action.
Speaker 4: In fact, you're starting to see a little more Cubs
money from the recreational betters that are expecting this series
to get even out. I personally have a four percent
on Milwaukee to win this series, so I'm hoping Milwaukee
gets the job done today as well. But I don't
have anything to report as far as sharp money goes,
except for the over in that Milwaukee and the Cubs game,
and the over after it dropped to seven and a
half because it opened to eight, came down to seven
and a half.
Speaker 3: And then that's when you started seeing some over money.
Speaker 4: So obviously a little difference of opinion on the total
between the Cubs and Milwaukee, but again, not nothing really
big to report there real quickly in the NFL, another
game where you're seeing a low spread, so it's kind
of good two way action even though it's the Chiefs
as road favors, they're not as one sided as you
would expect. Good balance for the books, and they don't
have a lot of risk coming in off of yesterday.
Yesterday's Sunday night game. Getting the cover for the Dog
and keeping the game under was a good result for
the books. We had a big four percent on the
under that came in for us. You got two good defenses.
That's what we're looking at with Kansas City and the
Jacksonville Jaguars. The number three most efficient defense on Kansas City,
number ten most efficient defense for Jacksonville. It's gonna be
which offense shows up. Obviously, Kansas City's from papers offense
is better than Jacksonville, which is, you know, barely in
the in the top twenty right now. Home field advantage
about one point eight points for Jacksonville. Strength of schedule
so far has been about the same between the two,
so it's a tough game to cap. It seems like
from the recreational betters like they're not all diving in.
So it seems like people have a lot more handicapping
to do before they get to the window with tonight's game.
Speaker 3: And we haven't seen any line movement either.
Speaker 4: Sat three and a half was where the opener was
sitting around three and a half. Knowing three is such
a key number, that's a telling sigde that you're not seeing,
you know, any real risk yet for the books. As
far as the total goes, we saw the total come
up and then come back down, meaning it got that
up from forty four and a half to forty six,
and at forty six you saw some under money as well.
Speaker 3: So there's money all over the place.
Speaker 4: In tonight's baseball and NFL game, which is gonna get
all the action. And from a market perspective, this is
a good day to be a book maker. You're gonna
get a ton of volume and they're gonna end up
not having all that much risk on either side, so
they'll be able to sweep up that big It's twenty
of those days again, that's good to be a book maker.
Speaker 2: Let's do a couple of look aheads.
Speaker 1: I know you said we got a little bit of
action here opening Let well, Teddy just did. Yeah, Teddy
just did opening line report where he goes over all
the look aheads for this coming up week in the NFL.
Speaker 2: What are you seeing for college and NF fell so far?
Speaker 3: All right, Let's look at college football.
Speaker 4: A couple of the marquee games now Oklahoma, Texas, Georgia, Auburn,
no movement at all, Texas Open three sitting at three,
Auburn open three and a half sitting at three and
a half. But the marquee matchups that we did see movement.
We saw Florida State go from the opener of nine
and a half got bet and also minus ten against
pitt We saw Missouri get money at plus four and
plus three and a half also against Alabama as home dogs.
We saw Arizona State grab six against Utah. We saw
BYU minus one over Arizona Florida. They took eight and
a half, and they took eight against A and M
South Carolina. They took the ten against LSU and finally
Indiana against a red hot and popular Oregon team. They
took the nine and a half, they took the nine,
they took the eight and a half, they took the
eight on.
Speaker 3: Indiana over Oregon.
Speaker 4: So they bet Florida State, Missouri, Arizona State BYU, Florida,
South Carolina, and Indiana in those marquee matchups real quickly
in the NFL, A couple of the look ahead lines
that had followed through that's what you want to pay
attention to on your odds logic screen. Indianapolis minus three
minus one twenty five was the look ahead. They opened
it at five that got hit. Five and a half
got hit as well. No surprise, a lot of recency
bias around the Colts. The Rams. Baltimore is a team.
They're fading, looking fade Baltimore. The look ahead was six
and a half that got bet. The seven opener got
bet as well. Miami, another team, Chargers starting to get faded.
They took Miami at plus five and a half the
open at the look ahead. They took five at the
opener as well. Tampa Bay over San Francisco, fading the
injured San Francisco team. They laid the one and a
half look ahead. They laid the two opener. They laid
the two and a half as well. Green Bay against
Cincinnati they laid the points again, fading Cincinnati, which got
blown out once again. They laid thirteen and a half
was the look ahead. The opener was fourteen. They laid
that as well. And next Monday night Atlanta over Buffalo,
which did not look good last night on Sunday Night football,
and no surprise, little recency bias there. They took the
five look ahead on Atlanta. They took the four and
a half opener and the four that was sitting up there.
So that's some of the early NFL look ahead steam
that got followed through.
Speaker 3: On Monday, we talk.
Speaker 2: About recency bias. Do you think the books react enough?
Not enough? How do the syndicates handle this?
Speaker 1: Because recency bias, obviously you can get some bloated numbers,
but then you know there's some of these teams. Listen,
I think this Baltimore team is a train wreck. I
think they're saving everyone until after the bye week. They're
gonna go in the buy one and five and then their.
Speaker 2: Schedule get super super easy.
Speaker 1: That was a I picked them in Survivor and I'm
looking at this going, what have you seen from this
Baltimore team?
Speaker 2: This is not a This is not the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: They have all their backups on defense and they have
a backup quarterback.
Speaker 2: It's just not the Ravens. I'm pretty surprised.
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if this doesn't make it to
double digits here. So what your take on recency bias
or is it just game by game?
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: I think what happens is the book is forced to
shade towards that recency bias. They have to because betters
remember what they saw last and they're going to react
to it. So the books are forced to shade towards
that bias. But it's then we, the market. I think
that overreacts. That's what I think ends up happening. Kind
of like the same thing with injuries, where the book
knows this quarterback's worth four point five points to the
betting line, we're going to adjust at four and a
half points. But then we the market says, oh no,
he's worth more than that, and next thing you know,
it's a six and a half seven point adjustment. That
wasn't the books adjusting it. That was we, the market,
disagreeing with the books adjustment. And I think that's what
you see. And a perfect case was Baltimore. Here's the
difficulty of the books. Let's remember Week one, they lost
the Buffalo in a game that was improbable to lose,
meaning they had like a ninety nine point nine percent
probability of winning very late in that game they lost.
After that loss, they were still considered the best team
on paper.
Speaker 3: The weekend after that, they beat.
Speaker 4: Cleveland by what twenty four points as thirteen point favorites.
So Azov going into September twenty second. Just two three
weeks ago, they were considered the best team in the NFL.
In fact, they were four and a half point favorites
over the best team in the NFL right now, the
Detroit Lions. They lost that game by eight points. Still
everyone thought, this is a team on paper, they're one
and two, but they're arguably the best team in the NFL.
Then they lose the KC and they get blown away
by Houston and all that is forgotten that quickly. That's
what the difficulty of the books is that two weeks ago,
three weeks ago, on paper wise, guys are arguing this
one in two Baltimore team should still be favored over
more or less everyone on neutral field, but the market says, no,
they suck. They're starting to fame Baltimore. That's the difficulty
the books have with teams like that. So I give
them kind of a break and they sometimes they're playing
catch up. More times than not they're ahead, but sometimes
they are caught playing catch up, and a team like Baltimore,
I think that's what's happening right now, where betters are
just lining up to fade them and they can't lower
them quick enough on their power ratings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm just looking at Yeah, I mean
green Bay is what might's fourteen.
Speaker 2: And a half against the Bengals.
Speaker 1: What's the difference between the Bengals and the Ravens Exactly.
They're both on backup quarterbacks. They both can't stop anybody.
So I'm just I'm really surprised on that rams on
the road.
Speaker 2: Who cares? Going on like that?
Speaker 1: Crowd's going to be excited to go watch Cooper Rush
and that defense play.
Speaker 2: A nice job.
Speaker 1: You and I both hit our best bets in UFC.
We all know five percents just just mean a little
bit more in a little bit of industry. It just
actually a lot more. So awesome stuff with that Happy
Monday to you. What do you have up for everyone?
Speaker 3: Thank you brother.
Speaker 4: As of right now, the package that's going up within
the next sixty minutes, the Monday night football game just
was waiting for a little confirmation because I really have
a strong, strong lean that I think is coming through
that should be up, and of course I'll have my
Saturday college football, my Sunday NFL UP already have some
plays for subscribers ready to go. Tomorrow's Contender series. We
have a big UFC card on Saturday. I think you
got a five percent ready to pop there as well.
Speaker 3: So it's a busy week.
Speaker 4: We got a lot ahead, a good couple months to
close out the year. Head on over to wages talk
dot com. Jump on board another winning football season ahead.
We've won every single week in college football so far.
Let's just keep it going, keep grinding, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Yanni the Greek, Let's get this week off to
the right foot. Let's let's cash on Monday night football. So, Benjamin,
how about them Colts? Listen, There's there's two things you
want in a hometown team that you're rooting for. The
first is can they just be likable? We like, Okay,
we'll get to winning, but can they be likable and
fun to watch? And then it's winning? And this Colts
team has both of them. It is freaking awesome to
watch this Colts team. Yeah, they beat up on a
bad team, but yes, the Colts are such a pleasant surprise.
And yes it is an indictment on the New York
Giants that they were sitting on Daniel Jones, who looks
this incredibly good? So it's it's it's it's it's awesome. Man,
it's it's a lot of fun here in Indianapolis. So
all right, Dan, let's do overreactions where the books won,
where the public one and some props, fantasy winners and losers.
All right, overreactions two week find Jackson Dart is not
ready to start. They started him too early. The Jets
are the worst team in the NFL. I don't know
if that's an overreaction, like because they're actually putting out
their starters like the other teams that are hurt.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna win the AFC North and they didn't
even play this week. I saw Josh Allen is not
the MVP tweet last night, and.
Speaker 2: Then Dan, we jumped the gun on Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 1: The overreaction was Mark Sanchez was a victim of violence
in a city full of chaos and anarchy.
Speaker 6: That was almost like, you don't need to live tweet
every single thing that happened in the world. We can
shut up for five seconds and get some facts before
we start live tweeting.
Speaker 7: It's almost like we could do that.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm being dead serious when I tell you the
story first came out and the reaction every when the
city was downtown is becoming too dangerous.
Speaker 2: You can't go down there. That was literally a storyline
in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: And then it was like and then it was like, oh,
maybe it's just dangerous when Mark Sanchez is blacked out
walking around attacking.
Speaker 6: And then driver I don't know if you saw Andy
that they released like the video of what went down, unhinged,
unhinted is going to jail.
Speaker 2: He is in jail. They released him from the hospital
and took him to jail.
Speaker 1: So anyway, shout out to downtown Indianapolis, not nearly as dangerous.
Speaker 2: As uh as as as we said.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to where the books won and
where the public one boy boy. The books won a
lot on some teasers and money lines thanks to the
Cardinals blowing it and the Bills blowing it. Vikings browns
Under was a huge, huge play that did not get there.
So the books did very, very well there and where
the public won big Colts minus points and Lions minus points.
Speaker 2: Those were huge, huge gets for the public.
Speaker 1: Let's go to props and fantasy football winners and losers. Dan,
your boy, DeVonta Smith is having a really good year.
Justin Jefferson is starting to click. He's starting to pay
dividends in the props market. Rashid Shaheed Dan excellent call
on Rashid Shaheed justin Fields. I mean, garbage time still counts.
This guy is like a fantasy football monster. Even though
it's sometimes it's in time that doesn't even matter. This
Ryan Floornoy for the Cowboys. Where did he come from?
Never even heard of him? But congratulations to him. Ricodowbell
comes in for Cchuba Hubbard two hundred yard day. Jalen
Wattle something for Tyreek Hill. That was one that a
lot of us in the props market were like, why
didn't we play Jalen Watta with Tyreek Kill out?
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Stre is starting to put up some big numbers at
Baker and Obuka.
Speaker 2: What a duo, this, what a duo this team is.
Speaker 1: I continue to say, at the end of the year,
you're gonna have the Chiefs and the Bucks with the
best wide receiving core if everyone's healthy and back. Jamar Chase,
garbage time again still counts. Krosskey Merritt. He has wrapped
up that job in Washington. He looks great and Stefan
Diggs looks rejuvenated. Huge revenge game last night and fantasy
football and props losers, Dan your boys. Saquon Barkley not
getting it done right now. But again, the Eagles have.
Speaker 2: Much bigger fish to fry.
Speaker 1: I would would, I would expect his rate, his usage
rate to go up a little bit, but he's not
put up the stats. Derrick Henry, Holy cow, Derrick Henry
Fantasy owners, prop betters, Yikes, this is getting bad. The
Raiders are props and fantasy wasteland tough one. If you
had a Mari de Mercado anytime touchdown, that's a brutal beat.
Speaker 2: The Chargers there's just.
Speaker 1: Too many injuries on the offensive line, and Woodie Marks
look like you had the starting job in Houston. And
then they're like, Nope, we're gonna run Nick Chubb. So
those are your fantasy football and props winners and losers.
All right, We're gonna bring in crack Man and get
his thoughts on the weekend, and then we're going to
talk a prop bill Happy Monday.
Speaker 5: How are you, sir, betting a prop as we speak? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Oh nice? Would you like to share with the rest
of the class.
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me just get into one more spot. Well,
we're on a live show, but I don't care. I'll
tell them now. I just paid that MGM over worthy
receiving yards over worthy receiving yards fifty five and a
half MGM fifty four and a half half a couple
of I don't think his injuries that serious though, And
to be honest with that's discount because of it. I
also released that last week and it was a pretty
easy winner, but it was a lot more yards. So yeah,
there's a live live prop here guys.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm I. I like these receptions.
Speaker 1: I like his yards because, yeah, they seem to be
trying to make a big deal out of this injury,
and it doesn't really seem like that big, that big
of a deal. So what they said spelling in his
ankle on the flight, like, it's not it's not like
he got.
Speaker 2: Hit by a car or anything.
Speaker 1: Uh so, uh, what was your thoughts on the weekend?
We did some overreactions. What was your what was your taken?
Speaker 8: Ever? You haven't mean anybody that had a nice weekend. Again,
I've won like every week in college. I've had a
good week, good weekend in even NFL and props and stuff.
Probably I'm up a lot of money so far and
in this last month. And have you ever met anybody
that is still sour? I am so sour. I am
so upset about Arizona losing, knocking me out of the contest.
Uh many contests I had. It costs me a lot
of money, including Rendisimo, which I had a third of
an entry. So it was a very expensive day as
far as that goes. But even with the contest losing
a lot of money, I'm still having a good financial
seam a month. And but it's just the way Arizona lost.
And I know it's in the moment. I usually don't
live in the moment, in the moment losing the way
Arizona lost and knock me out of these things. You're
going in for the score twenty eight to six, it
would have been and the guy just dropping the ball.
These guys get millions of dollars and they want to
like nonchalant and not don't even think like pull up
before you go in the end zone, don't hold the
ball like Yeah, it was a very upsetting day for me.
The end of the day there Usually I don't go
on on things too.
Speaker 5: I wake up. It is what it is. You go on,
and I am treating it that way.
Speaker 8: As you can see, I'm betting props here, uh doing
some other things, but uh yeah, pretty upset at that Arizona. Again,
I don't know if you guys, Wow, I'm sure most
of you guys probably know about it and what happened
in the game. Tennessee's a terrible team just but then again,
gotta be blunts. Not real fond than Arizona. I wasn't really,
I didn't have a lot of faith putting my money
on it was either Arizona or the Colts. I felt
that's right. I felt the Colts have a better quarterback.
Speaker 5: I just did. But schedule wise and.
Speaker 8: To use Arizona, that was the best opportunity to use them.
Both Colts and them were both seven seven and that
point favorites. I already used the Bills, not that it mattered.
Speaker 5: Bills lost.
Speaker 8: The only other real survivor there is Detroit, and Detroit
is on the road. I don't like using road teams
in these type of contests. You know, I had a
buddy of mine text me, I really respect this morning
how Arizona was the optimal pick, and he actually said,
you know that he just can't believe how so many
of these people picked three point favorites and how they
got through. It's the equivalent of risking whatever your equity
is minus three hundred, because your implied value is only
gonna go up twenty five thirty percent if you went
on average. It's just a long and more of an
analytical background. And I'm just trying to put some of
his words in Layman's terms. He's very, very smart, very
smart guy. He's a contest player, only he doesn't really
gamble that much actually, But yeah, so it was it
was really really upset, really upset, so that that I'm sorry,
I was really upset, just that I have partners too.
They're putting let me be blunt, and they're putting up
thirty three thousand dollars. So I have two other partners
put up thirty three thousand dollars each. They have faith
in me having the right decision. But I do check
with them, even though I get the final call. I
do check with them before and both of them agreed
with the pick. But there was a fraction of time
we thought about the colts. So we looked at the
schedule and we thought that this was the only time
Arizona was going to have. You know, they're playing the
worst team in ball argument, Yeah, no they are. I mean,
Carolina's probably not the worst anymore, even before Yesterday's got
into Tennessee's like the worst team in football.
Speaker 5: So I think this is a good pick. I do
it again and again. This is a freak thing. Man.
Speaker 8: So many things had to go right for Tennessee. But
you know, it's funny, Andy, it didn't stop me from
going to one of the best restaurants last night, the Carbone.
I went to Carbone last night after I lost that,
because what are you gonna do. What are you gonna
do is sit around and stuck about it all day.
Speaker 5: But I walk up.
Speaker 8: Today thinking about it a little bit, and I kind
of feel bad for other Listen.
Speaker 5: I lose my own money. I feel bad when other
people lose money because of me.
Speaker 8: But then again, I'm feeling bad for a guy that's
got his own private jet restaurants. Strip club is the
guys in multi league we're not even thinking about. I mean,
I mean, but I just you know, they put their
faith in me. And again we all agree, so.
Speaker 5: Uh, it was it was a fun. It was a
fun thing. Granted them all. I'll get them again next year,
god willing. And even the.
Speaker 8: Survivor though knocked me out of many entries on I'm
down to one entry and survivor.
Speaker 5: So, uh, this is a real big lot of carnage.
Speaker 8: Yesterday this I'm sorry, it was only Sunday, bloody Sunday.
Speaker 5: It was Thursday, bloody Thursday. The Rams lose it, which
I thought I was a genius now had no Rams bick.
I said, this is great. Rams is out. Lost a
lot of the pool. And what happens. You know, you lose, uh,
you know, you lose the big one with with Arinzona.
So it happens. I'm over it.
Speaker 8: Had a good day financially though, betting good weekend again,
having a great season.
Speaker 5: Which what's gonna happen. It's going to happen.
Speaker 8: Uh, Like I've been telling people from the beginning over
here on Wadier Talk, we're gonna win.
Speaker 5: As long as you don't get thrown out or limited.
Speaker 8: You're gonna win. So which is unfortunately when I get
thrown out and limited. But there are a couple of
books in town that do take my bets. Thank God
that the Westgate's taking a prop for me circus taking
a prop from me. The wind take some straight good
good totals, and and so does the other sports books
I have. I have like three or four here in
town that that takes some good prop bets off me.
Speaker 5: So I'm happy about that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about some props that you know. You
gave us a quick little one on zeb You're worthy.
What's another prop you're looking for?
Speaker 5: No, just right now, it was just worthy, to be
honest with, You're worthy. Was a problem.
Speaker 8: Just so happens that I just started betting it when
we got when we came on air. So there's as
a free one for everyone worthy over. You know, Andy,
I don't like bett I tell you, I'm still that
old school mind.
Speaker 5: I sometimes hate betting these overs. I'm an under guy.
Speaker 8: I'm an under guy because I always think that the
value is going against the public, going against the marquee team.
But these books have adjusted to the point where I
am playing more and more overs on player props.
Speaker 5: Is it built in value?
Speaker 8: Put betting under quarterback gets heard or something comes out
for a couple of plays, or you know, and and
also was the tax that you pay in the way
of extra yardage? But However, now I'm noticing spots where
I'm betting a lot of overs and they're cashing.
Speaker 5: So it's a total different game. If you don't evolve
every year, you will not win. It's that simple.
Speaker 8: Even like Super Bowl props, my first ten, you're only
allowed to bet two at the counter at west Gate.
Speaker 5: I remember going up in the lottery, You're allowed to
bet two.
Speaker 8: I bet eleven. I had a circle and I only
got the bet ten of them. I had like five
or six overs. Now, I mean it ran good there,
so it was nine to one on.
Speaker 5: That first list. So but even going back from the
count dump from the decks, I can't believe I'm betting
like six overs out of eleven. It's just impossible. It's
just never.
Speaker 8: I've made a lot of money betting unders in my career,
a lot of money and the reason why I get
thrown at so many sportsbooks betting props. So we can
bet overs now. Hopefully Worthy continues that streak of overs.
And I know everyone wants to bet sides out there.
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 8: I get it. Sides as fun as the biggest thing
you talk about. Everyone loves betting sides. You know you
want to bet your favorite team tonight. I released the
other day on wader Talk minus three minus twenty I
believe on KC a lot of terrain of hats. Now know,
unless you buy it, unless you can find a spot,
and it's very price sensitive. At minus three minus thirty,
it's a no play. That's how tight these margins are.
That's how tight they are. Now a lot of other
people in general that I notice. I know a couple
other people that sell picks and they say, oh, minus
three minus twenty two or minus twenty five at rivers
or at DraftKings where I'm not allowed to bet, you
can bet two hundred fifty dollars. There's an old lady
in Artur Rabitue in the Bronx that rent runs the
hot dog part.
Speaker 5: She takes more than that. So I mean, like, I.
Speaker 8: Don't understand how these companies are in business. ESPN Bet,
all these big companies. They don't take bets off winners,
losers only dot com they should be named. It's really bad.
And you know what, I do that at the risk
of them sponsoring one of my shows down the line.
Speaker 5: Thank God, I'm good in life. I don't have to
worry about that.
Speaker 8: Seriously, all the double birds to all these these places
that uh you know.
Speaker 5: Advertise and spend millions and millions on advertising.
Speaker 8: Yet when it comes to taking bets off, someone that
has a pulse gets for all the maut.
Speaker 5: Alluming into a grocery dollar. All right, I'm ranting this morning.
Speaker 8: Imagine I'm still rantom that makes me me though, I like.
Speaker 7: To stick there.
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're great. I actually just looked it
up loosers dot com.
Speaker 1: It's available, is it's it's it's owned by a group,
but it's nothing.
Speaker 2: It's right they you you and let's let's talk after
the show. Let's partner up. Let's buy losers.
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Speaker 1: Here, give out some free plays and believe it or not,
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Kareem Hunt over twenty seven and a half yards rushing.
These Chiefs running backs have been bad, but I think
this is too much of an overreaction. This is cream Hunt.
He's had thirty plus yards the last three weeks and
he leads the Chiefs in rush attempts this year. I
don't think Pacheco's one hundred percent recovered from the injury
from last year. For whatever reason, they trust Kaream Hunt.
Speaker 2: They like him.
Speaker 1: He's in there so I guess if the Vandy Reid
Mahomes trust him, I guess we should too. Dodgers Phillies
Ha sus Lozardo over fourteen and a half outs gone
over in twenty seven out of thirty two games this season.
Twenty one out's last couple games in the head to
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up tomorrow. We'll see, all right, let's bring in Steve Merrill.
Steve's gonna break down the Monday night football game.
Speaker 7: I thought we were doing darts stats. I'm not at all.
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. There are darts stats out there.
And even though I find him fascinating, I know nobody
wants to hear me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she was kind of curious. I'm not your average Joe.
I would have loved to hear it, as you probably
know what Andindy So it was actually kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Well, it's some interesting formats, Steve double in double at all?
Speaker 2: Right, here we go, so.
Speaker 1: Real quick, Steve, I always ask you the week five overreactions,
Which wen do you like the best? Jackson Dart not
ready to start in the NFL. The Jets are the
worst team in the NFL. The Steelers are going to
win the AFC North even though they didn't play this week.
Josh Allen is now not the MVP. And then we
did a jumping to conclusion that Indianapolis is a very
dangerous city full of chaos and anarchy because of Mark
sanch And then it turns out Mark Sanchez is the
chaos and anarchy.
Speaker 2: Which one's your favorite?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I saw that headline. I know nothing else but
it said former Fox News analysts and NFL player Mark
Says says stabbed and arrested. That's what the headline said.
I'm like, what stabbed and arrested? So I actually don't
know what happened. I once again didn't apply to my
handicap it at the game, so I didn't care, right,
I just move on. But I did see that headline.
I think the biggest overreaction has to be that SG
s VG is the greatest NASCAR racer in history. Randy,
I actually caught the end of the race yesterday for
the first time all year.
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 7: Five road course wins? He told me about this.
Speaker 1: Guy, he's one same of them every real quick he's
in the NAT.
Speaker 7: You win a race, you get in the playoffs. I mean,
are they think about next year? Just letting him run
all the ovals just so he has enough races or
whatever that you know the minimum what.
Speaker 2: They're doing this year.
Speaker 1: He just keeps advancing as long as there's a road
course in the playoffs, he's.
Speaker 7: I don't think he advanced. I heard the top eight. Yeah,
but I don't think he's in the top eight. I
see you saying, no, he's not advancing to the championship.
He's not.
Speaker 2: They just he advances to the playoffs every year. Every
year they have a road course, right, Just.
Speaker 7: You and I need to put a wager talk team together.
This is our chance we get a guy like him.
We just run fortieth in every oval race, and we
have a ringer for one track, just one track exactly.
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I didn't see him on the screen. I thought Dan
was gonna throw him up there, so I didn't listen
to a word you said. I heard about Jackson Dart
and I heard Indian atat.
Speaker 2: D not ready to start? Are the Jets the worst
team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: The Steelers are going to win the AFC North despite
the play, So uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got some good ones.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the I kind of like the
Josh Allen is not the MVP because of one loss.
Speaker 2: I kind of like that one.
Speaker 7: Well, And I always like to look too, like, how
did I feel the games are gonna play it? I
had a best bet of the Patriots on Sunday night,
and whenever I like a dog, I think they can
win outright, just like the Titans, you know, I mean,
I've always SAI if you're gonna play NFL dogs, you
put some of it on the money line because majority
of the time they do win straight up, so I'm
not going to overreact to the Sunday Night result. Josh
Allen probably does not win the MVP because he won
it last year and we normally don't see guys win
it back to back seasons. I thought that the Cowboys
were a very public play this week. The Jets have
looked awful. They're coming off the Monday Night game, but
I thought they were in a decent spot, maybe to
catch Dallas, who's been unable to stop anybody defensively except
for the electricity or the lightning outage. Dart is ready
to start that rhyme. So I kind of like that.
You know, they're all overreactions. That's why we have fun
with this on Monday. But the Jets are looking pretty bad.
I don't think the Steelers win that division, although the
Ravens have tapped out the Bengal I mean yeah, I
mean they probably won it by default, right Mike Tomlin
class well and Mary two years older than me. Man,
he always seems to get it done. We always talk
about how he always has a winning record no matter
how bad they've been. I think they've been negative points
in yardage like three years in a row. Now they've
still had a winning record, so I guess they're due
to have a breakout season there. Yeah, they probably is
the Steelers to win or lose. I don't think they're
that good though.
Speaker 2: Uh, just a bit interesting.
Speaker 1: NFL MVP Josh Allen plus one fifty Sean says, take
a look at Jared Goff, he's fifteen to one. I
like Baker at twelve to one. And listen forty five
to one Daniel Jones. That's to many quarterbacks playing better
than him. So I don't test to see interesting futures. Look,
all right, Steve, let's talk this Monday night game. How
do you break down the Chiefs and the Jaggy Wires.
Speaker 7: Well, I broke it down about three days ago, side
and total for free in a video. So what I'm
gonna do, Andy, I'm gonna look at some props which
I did not mention in the video. Once again, if
you want my side in total breakdown for this Chiefs
Jags game, it is free right here on wager Talk
TV the Monday Night Breakdown. By the way, the Patriots
were a client at last night on Sunday. I gave
that to you free in the video as well, so
I gave you a lot of the plays I end
up using for my clients. Check out the Monday Night
two for one with a side in Total free play video.
But let's look at some props here for this segment.
And one thing I like to do is always take
a contrarian stance in the NFL. But I also don't
like try to catch fully knives in any sport. And
that's why with the fade the public video, I always
say a lot of times we just passed. We don't
fade by playing real ugly teams. We talked about the
Cowboys were very public Sunday. The Jets have struggled. The
Titans have struggled at times, although they did step up
against the Cardinals had a best bet on that by
the way, yesterday on Sunday that was more of a
fate of Arizona. But in this game tonight, I think
we could start to trust the Chiefs offense a bit.
You know, they looked awful in the Super Bowl last
year and I wasn't big on them coming into this season,
but they did make some improvements in offensive line. They've
gotten a little healthier. But the big change now that
we're about a month into the seasons, they're getting some
of their explosive playmakers back, especially at the wide receiver position.
I don't read too much into the Brazil game. That
was Week one A of the NFL season. It was
a foreign game right after the preseason. Chargers are looking decent,
and by the way, that was a phony win by
not my Washington Commanders yesterday on Sunday. Chargers still one
of the better teams in the AFC, Eagles one of
the better teams in the NFC. But now that the
Chiefs have started to step down in class a bit,
the twenty two points against the Giants could have been
a lot more. I thought they moved the ball okay offensively,
and now I look for maybe a breakout game with
some big plays here. And I think the way you
can attack some big play opportunities is longest poletion, longest
reception props over something I'll talk a lot about, but
Patrick Mahomes's longest completion over thirty five and a half tonight.
I like that one. And then if you want to
tie that in with some reception props as well, maybe
either Worthy or Thornton's longest reception over Also, if you
have access to those, I'm gonna pull those up right now. Actually,
longest reception for Worthy is about twenty two and a half.
He's head along of thirty seven I believe this year.
And also we're looking at some other guys here at
Tai Kwan Thornton thirteen and a half. He's had one
I believe of forty nine. I like Worthy over twenty
two and a half for his longest Thornton over thirteen
and a half or Mahomes over thirty five and a half.
I think there'll be some big plays tonight against the
Jacksonville defense is going to go one on one and
get burt. This Kansas City offense is starting to break
down now that they're getting healthy at the receiver position.
Speaker 2: Awesome stuff, Steve.
Speaker 1: You don't have to threaten me with a good time
with props now you're talking.
Speaker 7: Love the over props, right Andy, because like you can
win it by like the second play of the game,
whereas if you take the shortest or whatever, you're sweated
to the final play of the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Crack Man was talking about this how he used to
bet unders and now he's betting more overs.
Speaker 2: I'm the same way I came here.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the best props in all
of sports was taking the under on the points, rebounds
and assists on the Superstars in the playoffs because the
books were just put this astronomical number out and everything
had to go right for them to go to go over.
So you just played the under, and now they're constantly
going over. And it's the same in NFL.
Speaker 2: They put they put these.
Speaker 1: Lower like like totals up and one play blows it
out of the water, and I end up gravitating more
towards the overs these days.
Speaker 7: Right, And I agree with you, Andy, and it's everyone's
gonna say, well, the values with the under. And you
see that with you know, over under total points for
decades as well. The sharps always play unders, the public
plays overs. The sharps play underdogs, the public plays favorites.
And I talk about this a lot of my fade
the public video that I use this as a filter. Right,
we don't just blindly fade the public. I'm not looking
to play crap teams, as I said earlier, and it's
the same thing with these props. I'm looking to play
over props. If the line isn't there, the values and
there we just pass. But I'm the same way. I
find myself playing more overs with totals in general, and
it's because it's a cleaner handicap. If I'm looking for
a game, I think where both offenses have the abilities
to score both you know, teams have explosive abilities. This case,
I think Kansas City has some big playabilities against Jacksonville
to night, so that's going to correlate to a long
pass reception. At some point Mahomes is going to have
to throw it, so we get his over thirty five
and a half. But then I sprinkle in a couple
of the receivers at lower numbers as well. And it also,
you know, I don't care about watching these games. But
once again, it takes a little bit of the bad
beat factor out because you've seen some andy where you
can go a full game and all of a sudden,
that last meaningless play is a big play throw or something.
So there's a lot of reasons I gravitate towards overs
as well. Now that the betty market has become more sophisticated,
I'm not sure there's just intrinsic value anymore at the
under like there used to be twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, agreed. We'll keep talking about props. We got
a couple of really big baseball games here, Steve, want
to get your breakdown on both of them. So it
looks like we got Snell for the Dodgers, Zardo for Phillies,
Amara e.
Speaker 2: Moniga.
Speaker 1: This guy's last name trips me up every single time.
It's not even that difficult, and whatever reason, I can't
do it. So I'm gonna let you talk about the
Brewers and the Cubs. You're breaking down both games. I'm
not gonna rupt you just so just just go back
to back here, Dodgers, Phillies, Cubs and Brewers.
Speaker 7: So we have two baseball games here tonight on Monday.
First one is an early start at sixth Eastern Phillies Dodgers,
and then a late start at nine o'clock Eastern Cubs Brewers.
They're both on TBS and True TV, one of my
favorite networks, and practical Jokers. I need to get on
that show. Let's make it happen. Comment below if you
want to see beyond in Practical Jokers. If you like
True TV. Early game though at six Eastern is Dan
Alexander's Phillies at home against the LA Dodgers. You know,
the Dodgers were annoyted the World Series champs before the
season began back in April. Like at two to one
odds underperform most of the season, but to say they've
turned it on recently would be an understatement. Eight straight wins,
what was it five straight to finish the regular season,
including beating Seattle three straight. Is one of the best
teams in baseball on the road. And then maybe the
biggest mismatch we've seen in recent years in the MLB
Playoffs was against the Reds in Round one. I took
advantage two and zero sweep using the Dodger run line.
And we talk about this. If you play the Dodgers,
you played the minus one and a half, they usually
win by margin or they lose outright. Well, we play
Dodger run line in both games one and two, and
we're off to a one hundred percent starting the l
playoff MLB Playoffs because of that rare opportunity here where
you get the Dodgers at a pretty reasonable price, about
a dollar twenty five road favor tonight, I'm gonna look
at the total though instead under eight. It opened seven
and a half. It's now up to eight in some
spots still seven and a half over, so you can
get under seven and a half, even under eight minus
fifteen minus twenty. By the way, that half run is
worth about twenty cents on average. Is eight is what
we call a less likely I don't want to say
it's a dead number. It's less likely than seven or nine.
The way baseball's played, if it's three to three, it
has to land seven or more. Four to ford, it
has to land none or more because of extra ding.
So an even money or under eight minus fifteen minus
twenty is fine with me either way. Battle of lefties here.
My concern is that the Dodgers have been explosive offensively.
I talked about the eighteen runs they put up against
the Reds. Well, they put up five runs against Philly
in Game one that landed on exactly eight runs. Both
pitcherso have been solid. Blake Snell at two point four
ERA on the season, Lozardo not quite as much three
point nine, but if you look at his last seven
starts going back to mid August, three point zero ERA,
so he has dialed in even though he's pitched a
lot more innings than he did last year. Last year
only sixty six innings, one hundred and seventy eighth the
year before that one hundred and eighty three. This year, meanwhile,
Snell has been limited, so he only has sixty one
innings after going one to four and one eighty. If
you want to take a little bit of that Dodger
uncertainty of their hot offense and a little bit of
Lozardo uncertainty out of the equation, maybe a better way
to attack this one is just a team total instead
of under eight for the game, we play the Phillies
under three and a half. So I do like Philly
team total under three and a half if you're a
little hesitant as I am, to fade that red hot
Dodger offense at six oh five Eastern tonight on Monday,
other game at nine o'clock eastern, also left he lefty.
All four pitchers starting pitchers tonight are south pause. I
can't remember the last time I've seen that happen, so
it'll be interesting. And this is an interesting game as
well because we've seen the money come in on Milwaukee
early on opening about a dollar twenty five favorite through
up to a dollar thirty dollars thirty five now, and
it's hard to disagree Brewers were the best team in
baseball this season. It wasn't the Dodgers, it was the Brewers,
and they're in pretty good current form as well. You
always worry about the long layoff, and the Padres had
that momentum edge, or the Cubs rather had the momentum
edge coming in after the Padre three game series, and
we have seen in recent years the wildcard teams do
quite well with this expanded baseball playoff format. But it
didn't matter. Brewers nine to three win on Saturday, it
was easy, and I think that was the difficult spot
for him. A little bit of a pitching edge here
maybe on the season for the Cubbies. But then again,
Aaron Ashby's been solid, only sixty six innings of work,
but a two point to er, and I think he's
a solid guy. Not a lot of playoff experience, which
is a concern, but he's rested. And the fact that
Milwaukee won easily nine to three on Saturday and what
was maybe a flat spot after being off for a
full week. I think they carry that momentum here not
in a hurry to fade the best team in baseball,
and the betting markets agree. Brewers are gone from a
dollar twenty five up to a dollar thirty five. I
think there's still value. They win this game. They take
the two to zero lead tonight, so take a look
at the Brewers as well in the late game at
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Speaker 1: All right, Steve, all right, we have something funny developing
in the chat Immoga.
Speaker 7: So I didn't try to say it. I couldn't remember either.
Speaker 1: They're trying to help help me do this, so I
brought up I have a buddy.
Speaker 2: He he can't say Hideki Matsuyama.
Speaker 1: It always comes, he says, Hideki matsui Ethan has a friend.
Do you Is there a name or a word that
you struggle with that?
Speaker 7: Oh, there's half the players in the league.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 7: I watch less games than I ever watched. I can't
stand watching these games. I feel like I jinks teams
when I watch the games, even though I'm not superstitious.
So yeah, I butcher these names all the time. And
what I love, Andy is the ten fifteen thousand viewers
we get on all the videos. You know, ninety nine
percent of the comments are positive, like thanks Steve, let's
all go get them, let's win together. And Steve, you
pronounced the backup second string catcher who's in the game
tonight for the Padres. It's like, yeah, thanks, buddy, find
something else to troll. So yeah, I don't even try anymore.
And you will notice that I said the Cubs starter
that's a great way to go.
Speaker 2: It's it's really good. Try and pronounce in UFC when
they got a Russian fighting in Asian.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well, I mean it's.
Speaker 2: Impossible, like this guy was this guy?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 7: That's another trick, is you know? Andy? Like, well you
do UFC. I don't follow it, so I don't know
any of the names. But what I used to like,
you know, I guest host for you on Thursday or
Friday we have it. I'll be like, what are your
thoughts in this MMA UFC main event, and then I'll
just let them roll with the Teddy used to love
that as well. Teddy was like me, he had no clue.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the third fight of the night?
All right, Steve, what do you have up for clients
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Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean, don't forget Tomorro's five dollars Tuesday, Andy,
I gotta show you the five dollar Tuesdays year. I'm
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Speaker 1: Great work Steve, great breakdowns. Don't forget to check out
all of his free play videos. He's does the Fade
the Public NFL video which the fae the public plays
are going, well, aren't they.
Speaker 2: I watched last video that those yeah kind of hitting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting. And you know last year the public
got off to really start strong start I think the
first three or four weeks of September and then remember
I was like that first or second week in October,
the sportsbook said, like one of the worst weeks ever
with all favorites. It's been slow and steady this year.
It's just been like you know, the public's been like
one and two, one and three, one and two. So yeah,
they're only hitting abou thirty five percent right now in
those best bets that I put in the video. And
you know, once again just for the new viewers, as
you know, is like we're not saying to play them
or fato. I'm just giving you the information. But it's
been working well this year, and I have a feeling
that's not a coincidence because the public did really well
out of the gate last year and only three games
qualified this past week Andy, whereas when they get hot,
they'll be five or six really public games. So we'll
see how that goes here in the month of October.
Speaker 2: All right, Steve Merrill, everyone, thank you, great job.
Speaker 1: All Right, another sports coming coming up here, guys, NHL starts.
We got to bring in Carmin and Biaco. I can't
believe it's here, Carmie, we get to bet on NHL,
we get to bet on NHL props.
Speaker 2: My gosh, it's it's here. How excited are you?
Speaker 9: I'm very excited. It's a great time to be in
Toronto right now. Believe it or not, even though I'm
not a Leaves fan. I was downtown Toronto yesterday the
Blue Jays and Yankees and then watching football pretty much
all of you one o'clock in four o'clock games while
my wife was getting a six hour tattoo done Andy.
So yeah, yeah, I tried to bribe the girl into
putting Wteth buzz Backslash CD on there, but it didn't work.
But I'm looking forward to it. Listen, NHL is here,
NFL is here. It's been a great run in the
NFL as well, to seven straight winners for me. I
think I must have been the square yesterday because three
and oh sweep yesterday I had Tennessee, so I'm pretty
happy about that as well too.
Speaker 7: But NHL.
Speaker 9: Yeah, NHL is kicking off on Tuesday, only three games,
but it is going to be It's going to be
action packed. Because of the Olympics, they're going to start
squeezing in a lot of games before that break comes up,
so it'll be interesting to see. Nonetheless, but it is
a great season. I got a couple client plays that
are season long prop plays for you.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. We're going to support a team and
we're going to fade a team. We always love fading.
I always say it's so much easier for bad teams
to be bad that it is for good teams to
be great every single night. So let's talk about the
Pittsburgh Penguins.
Speaker 2: Why are you fading them? Yeah?
Speaker 9: So, you know, I initially put this one out because
I thought the number was at least a couple of
points too high. The Pittsburgh Penguins under seventy eight and
a half points. It's now down to seventy six and
a half at the DraftKings. And this is a team,
and it's just a team that is I think is
going to be near the bottom of the Eastern Conference
standings and near the bottom of the standings overall. I
think they're projected probably now I saw just this past
weekend they're projected to be in the top or the
bottom four overall in points. This is a team that
three years ago ninety one points, two years ago eighty
eight points, last year eighty points, and they only got
to those points by winning three of the last four
four games. Obviously, Mike Sullivan gone new coach, first year
coach as well too in Dan Mues. But this is
a team that it's going to be a retooling season
for the Pittsburgh Penguins, is going to be a long
year for them aging stars. Listen, I love Sidney Crosby,
but he's thirty eight and could be a player that
they move at the trade deadline as a rental player
and then he returns to Pittsburgh for another season if
they're able to win that first round pick and get McKenna.
He's the perfect mentor for a young superstar in their
first year. You got le Tang thirty eight years old,
Malcolm thirty nine, Carlson thirty five, Rust thirty three. So
there's a lot of players I hate to say, but
they're on their last legs with this Pittsburgh team and
it's just a long season for them. So I released
it's under seventy eight and a half, but it's at
seventy six and a half, and I still like it.
Andy at seventy six and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to a team we're going to
support Interact. This is an interesting one, but we're going
to We're going to your own talent team here with Toronto.
A little bit of changes with the roster, but you
still think they're going to be strong this year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I think the biggest takeaway is outside
of Toronto people. The first thing that comes with people's
minds is Mitch Martner is no longer in Toronto. How
do you replace one hundred and two points from him?
It is by committee. They have enough talent on that team.
And this is a team that three years ago one
hundred and eleven points, two years ago one hundred and
two points, last year one hundred and eight points. I
think the second year under Craig Barube, he is putting
it in a plan on this team and how he
wants them to play and play a better defensive game
as well too, So it is not about just scoring
a ton of goals, It is about minding the team defensively.
You have stol Arts who is injured in the playoffs.
You know, they were the only team to take Florida
basically to seven games with a chance to knock them out.
But goaltending issues became a problem in the playoffs for
them with still Art's getting injured and having a wall
and Hill deeby. But this is a team ninety nine
and a half points. I think the numbers short here
and a couple of reasons. I think the white noise
around the whole Mitch Martiner thing that was with the
team all season long last year is now gone. They
can focus on playing hockey. And then I think from
a divisional perspective, you have teams in their division that
I think are going to are going to get off
to slow starts.
Speaker 7: The Boston Bruins.
Speaker 9: This is a team that the Boston Bruins are in
the same boat, you know as the Pittsburgh Penguins. I
don't think as bad, but this is a team that
is projected to get eighty points. Eighty and a half
points is that the Bruins projection this year. And this
is a team that I think two or three years
ago won the President's Troll with one hundred and thirty
two points. So it is I think it's going to
be a tough season for the Bruins. Leafs get to
play them. Bruins normally have their number, but this is
I think this is where the Leafs get a leg
up on them. And then the Florida Panthers, two time
Stanley Cup champions, this is a team that is again
always stacked, but they're pretty much going to go the
whole season with El Barkov, who as it looks like
a season long injury and no sick and Matthew Schuck
are likely going to start the season on long term
injury reserves. So you have a couple big pieces of
that team that aren't and it's another one. It's another
next man up scenario for Paul Maurice and the Florida Panthers.
But being in that division, I think the two best
teams in that division after the injuries, not before the injuries,
after the injuries, are going to be Toronto and the
Tampa Bay Lightning. Expect a good season from the Tampa
Bay Lightning as well too. I think it was one
of those seasons where Florida just wants to get into
the playoffs. They'll be one of the top three in
the Atlantic. They'll make the playoffs. They know they can
win on the road. This team is built for the playoffs.
But we're not talking about playoffs. We're talking about the
regular season. In over ninety nine and a half points
is doable for the Leafs. And you guys know how
tough I am on the leafs Andy, I am tough
on the press.
Speaker 2: We've seen and we've heard.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know the last time the Leafs won the
Stanley Cup. Andy, here's some facts for you that you
might not have known and the viewers might not have known.
The Leafs last won the Stanley Cup in nineteen sixty seven.
Gas was thirty three cents a gallon, a slice of
pizza was fifteen cents, there was only six teams in
the league, and a house cost fourteen thousand dollars. That is,
those are the prices of the last time the Leafs
won a Stanley Cup. But apparently they are hockey town,
or they'll tell you they are, so I would kill
for a fifteen cent slice of pizza right now. Let
me tell you.
Speaker 2: That sounds good. Now I'm getting hungry, but I'm in
their corners.
Speaker 1: Points I take the fourteen thousand dollars house, honest with
that'd be my pick, so.
Speaker 2: Smaller for me. Tell everyone about puck time and what
you have up for everyone.
Speaker 9: Yeah, puck Time is going to be exciting this year, guys.
We kick it off tomorrow eleven am live. It's always
Monday to Fridays unless there are no games on which,
oddly enough, on Friday of this week there are no
games but brand new segments this season. I'm going to
do a season long bank roll builder with a play
of the day if one is available, and we will
keep a running count on it every single day of
the show. More game coverage, much like Wager Talk Today
in the way you're running this show, Andy, which is
absolutely fantastic. We'll bring guests like the pres Brian Leonard
Drew does fantastic in NHL, a don buster and they'll
come on and break down a single game, and then
Andrew and I will cover some games as well too.
So it is the and of course the swag. We
always have some swag, and we'll do some giveaways all
season long. But it is the best damn hockey show around,
so you gotta tune in and watch it. With that said, Andy,
I have a great promo NHL two hundred. NHL two
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the ice tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Love It, Love It. Carbon Bianco it is the best
hockey show.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to get these hockey bets and hockey props
and so.
Speaker 2: Thank you Carmine. Great breakdown for everyone.
Speaker 1: Before we go, Dan, I just have to give you
a shout out one of your best, if not best
weekend of predictions. You navigated survivor you gave out like
a hillacious what was it like a thirty seven to
one parlay?
Speaker 2: So Dan, you were you were absolutely on fire.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 6: It was a nice weekend. That's that's for sure, Andy,
And you have to celebrate them when they come along,
you know what I mean. So the folks who the
folks who are watching on Wager Talk last call, we
gave out the Dallas godd at anytime touchdown score the
wall or anytime touchdown score. And then we liked rashid
sha heat over as long as reception. I didn't expect
as long as reception to be like seventy yards, but
it certainly was over nineteen and a half, which was
just a crazy number that they hung there. So I mean,
you know it, you know, especially when you cash for clients,
when you give out the free plays here too, it's
it's it's nice when people give you some props for it,
because usually you only hear about the ones that you lose,
you know, even when they're free plays. Andy, why the
hell did you give me that prop in your in
your days free plays that lose.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, so it's nice when you hear hear the kind words,
because in this industry you don't really get too many
kind words.
Speaker 2: And we're set up beautifully in Survivor.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you've.
Speaker 1: Only used you You've only used one team that is
in the division lead right now, and that's not cold.
Speaker 2: So you're set up. You're set up very now.
Speaker 6: The question is this weekend, and we'll be able to
talk about.
Speaker 2: It all week long.
Speaker 6: Fourteen point favorites the Green Bay Packers versus the Bengals.
Could the craziness happen again this week?
Speaker 7: I will tell, I will tell.
Speaker 6: I gotta look at some some stats of the Packers
coming off the by and then and then maybe we'll
just be talking four.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm staring hard at that Ravens team that that was
my pick, Houston.
Speaker 2: That was pretty much no sweat.
Speaker 7: I was great.
Speaker 2: Look I'm looking at teams to fade. I might be
looking at them. So all right, that's gonna do it
for us. You know what I should? I should?
Speaker 1: I should do an update every week on my fantasy
football team. That's the worst f fantasy football team ever
it I'm losing by fifty six points this week. I
have not won a game. I have not even been
close to winning a game. You could not have drafted
a worst team than me. I have already benched my
first round pick Dan. That's how bad it is. He's
not hurt, but my first and second round picks are
on my bench. That's how terrible. When you draft Brian
Thomas and Chase Brown won two, you're done.
Speaker 2: My leaders this week was my kicker as.
Speaker 5: Bad as score.
Speaker 2: My kicker was my leading scorer.
Speaker 1: It's the worst fantasy football team that has ever disgraced
the airwaves.
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, that's gonna do it for us.
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Speaker 1: That is up coming up with great five percent cash
on Saturday, and we got one for this Saturday, and
I already know we're gonna have one for the next Saturday.
Speaker 2: The way the cards and the lines are so Thanks
so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Hit the like button, leave us comment, tell us what
bet you like, tell us what.
Speaker 2: Word you struggle to pronounce, and we'll see.
Speaker 1: If I put what words you struggle to pronounce in
the comment section, I'll try and pronounce all of them tomorrow.
Speaker 2: How about that for a gimmick?
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna do it again tomorrow at noon
the Eastern at nine am Pacific.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Good luck, I know your best tonight.
Take care