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<v Speaker 1>Deborah, with her thirty years of being an ltrepreneur and

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<v Speaker 1>creating over seven companies, knows exactly what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>accept the mission. When you make that decision, when you

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<v Speaker 1>accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and your talents to market, then you embrace a life

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<v Speaker 1>of not only unlimited possibilities, but also the unknown. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an elixir of fear and bravery that only someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs

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<v Speaker 1>deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know the stories, the whys, and the hows

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate the journey to success. Get ready to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation

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<v Speaker 1>Z to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to be blown away. Now Here is your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah Drummond.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome back to another exciting group show for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, when you start talking to experts,

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<v Speaker 2>the experts just rise to the top and guess what

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<v Speaker 2>they know experts and they refer experts, And our show

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<v Speaker 2>is a very abundant It is blossoming with the coolest

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<v Speaker 2>people doing the coolest thing and this is great. We're

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<v Speaker 2>super excited. So, you know, Carmel works behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>and we got creative and thought, who are some of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that we want to highlight on the show

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<v Speaker 2>this year, and we're like, we got to have some

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<v Speaker 2>creatives in the house. I mean, most of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that hang with us have a little bit of creativity,

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<v Speaker 2>because if not, they would think we're kind of cray Cray.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's people that own it and embody the whole

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<v Speaker 2>concept of being creative. And we love hanging with those people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know them, you walk in the room, they have

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<v Speaker 2>a vibe right You go to them, and you feel

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<v Speaker 2>different when you walk away. You know what you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel like you have potential. You feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>world's hopeful because creatives are never ending seeing vision and

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<v Speaker 2>creativity and expansion and envision and they're just cool people

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<v Speaker 2>to hang out with. So if you don't have someone

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<v Speaker 2>like that in your group, then you can just reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to one of these ladies after the show and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they'll hang with you and inspire you and

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<v Speaker 2>motivate you. But let's get to who's hanging out with

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<v Speaker 2>us today, because you too, as an audience. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much. I mean I look at the

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<v Speaker 2>analytics of the show because I am creative, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also very analytical. Got to make sure we're hitting the

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<v Speaker 2>right spots. And we are from all over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we are rocking the UK vibes. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for those of you that are sharing this message.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what happens when you expand. Everything you do expand.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's introduce you to these incredible ladies. Now, keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, I know some of you are listening and

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<v Speaker 2>some of you are viewing, and so I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>have just for those that are viewing, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>get our creatives to kind of stick their hand up.

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<v Speaker 2>They can do whatever they want, just to let you

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<v Speaker 2>know who it is that's speaking. So miss Susan Isaac,

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<v Speaker 2>please let us know who you are in the show today. Awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very cool. And Jill McCarthy, all right, there she

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<v Speaker 2>is there, she's with a cool green background. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we have Jen who we almost changed name pre show

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<v Speaker 2>Jen for Forgie. Forgie. We were talking in different languages

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<v Speaker 2>before the show having fun with her name. So luck ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to ask you simply you are creatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Share with us what kind of creative work would you do?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to tie these two questions, So what

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<v Speaker 2>do you do? And what was the moment that you

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<v Speaker 2>knew that this is the direction that you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go in?

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<v Speaker 3>What you know?

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<v Speaker 2>This was the like being being going from wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>went to into the creative field. And maybe you were

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<v Speaker 2>just born that way. So maybe share that a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit with us, Susan, let's start.

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<v Speaker 4>With you him. I live in Souk, the west side

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<v Speaker 4>of Vancouver Island, and I help people unlock their creativity

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<v Speaker 4>and reconnect with their joy and other people through hands

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<v Speaker 4>on glassware and unforgettable culinary experiences. I'm a foodie as

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<v Speaker 4>well as a glass artist, and I create glass so

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<v Speaker 4>glassware and also this is a digital image of glass

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<v Speaker 4>behind me and around my neck, and I create symbols

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<v Speaker 4>of transformation butterfly wings for women to tell their story

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<v Speaker 4>of transformation in glass and wear it close to their hearts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. So if you love to have that

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<v Speaker 2>around you, cool and then if you want to learn,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so great. And I've seen some of your really

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<v Speaker 2>cool posts on social where you got the food and

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<v Speaker 2>the glass and this hole going going on, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>who needs an excuse to have food? It's super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that because it's a community as well, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that's what we're big on here. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a media community, but we're also you're part of

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<v Speaker 2>the two sixty two Sisterhood and we like to call

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves the sustainable Soul from our sisterhood. And it is

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<v Speaker 2>a very cool community. And I know that you do

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<v Speaker 2>that within your own craft. We've got lots of communities

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<v Speaker 2>within our communities today. And Miss Jill McCarthy, so what

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<v Speaker 2>do you do that's creative and what was your moment

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<v Speaker 2>that made you go sure, sign me up.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm a former elementary teacher about my father. It

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<v Speaker 5>was within it, and then I went to women's retreats,

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<v Speaker 5>and at my very first women's retreat, I used the

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<v Speaker 5>verse about heart's desires. Now I've spent time with women's groups.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a podcast, The Geeky Grandma within Encourage, I've

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<v Speaker 5>been a speaker international and even now on stage. But

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<v Speaker 5>I've spent the time telling those other women to follow

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<v Speaker 5>their heart's desire. And I've made twenty twenty five the

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<v Speaker 5>year I start following my heart's desire and make sure

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<v Speaker 5>that my desires don't go on touch. And I'm a

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<v Speaker 5>digital artist and I'm going to read up the graphic

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<v Speaker 5>novel that I started a few years ago. I'm now

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<v Speaker 5>a plush and so I'm really picked this year to

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<v Speaker 5>start those creative I get to refill my tank with

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<v Speaker 5>the creative uses. And that's why I picked tick on

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<v Speaker 5>on this one rather than your podcast one.

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<v Speaker 3>That is.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, And you know what, I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 2>we can all relate to having to take that time

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<v Speaker 2>and retreat. You hear writers going on writers retreats are

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<v Speaker 2>going solo, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now me and Carmel, we're talking for the show

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<v Speaker 2>and Ocean. My son is working on a twelve twelve picture,

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, doing twelve pieces of art for

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, TV reality show. There's twelve episodes, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. And we were talking about how he's

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<v Speaker 2>struggling with that last piece where it doesn't just flow

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<v Speaker 2>because there's twelve do you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 2>he had Now he's at the twelfth line. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you have to retreat. Sometimes you have to go in.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you have to go away. Sometimes you have to refuel.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you have to stop and do whatever it is

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<v Speaker 2>that that creative needs to tap back in. Right, fill

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<v Speaker 2>up the cup. I am excited for you. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>excited for you, Jill. And oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a new friend on the show today and

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<v Speaker 2>that's Jen. So Jen, please share with us what you do,

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<v Speaker 2>what you're about, and what was that moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm an actor. I'm a professional actor, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also a writer and a playwright.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Natural sort of progressions of my work is taking my

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<v Speaker 3>creativity and I now create and I lead journaling workshops

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<v Speaker 3>for personal and professional development and growth, but also for

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<v Speaker 3>healing and for well being. So I have many different

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<v Speaker 3>themes of journaling that I take to different groups. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to be moving into grief journaling. I bring it

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<v Speaker 3>to corporate. I'm actually heading to BC tomorrow to lead

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<v Speaker 3>to be a part of a women in Leadership workshop

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<v Speaker 3>where I'll be bringing my journaling. And this is not

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<v Speaker 3>your dear diary kind of journaling. This is this is creative,

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<v Speaker 3>expressive journaling for knowing who we are, not just our

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<v Speaker 3>dreams and our ideas, but our creativity. It's being in

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with ourselves so we understand who we are, who

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<v Speaker 3>we are in the world, expanding our perspectives. I just

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<v Speaker 3>I love it the moment. I've always wanted to be

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<v Speaker 3>an actor. I've always I've always been a writer. Ever

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<v Speaker 3>since I was a kid, I was writing and creating stories,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's just it's just unfolded. And I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>very passionate about healing and honoring our truths. So, like

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<v Speaker 3>listening to both Susan and Jill, I'm like, yeah, taking

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<v Speaker 3>time for ourselves, what are my desires, what is my

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<v Speaker 3>path and bringing that to other people in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that they become self reliant through their own trusting their

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<v Speaker 3>own voice through writing.

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<v Speaker 5>Right on.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, very incredible. Look, let's talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>the support because when we see people in creatives, it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because in our books and on our stages, we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we have actors and directors and people that are in

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<v Speaker 2>their craft and artists and painters, and people see them

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<v Speaker 2>as painters and artists and you know, actors and actresses,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't see them as entrepreneurs. They don't see

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<v Speaker 2>them as entrepreneurs. It's not the first thing that pops

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<v Speaker 2>into the head. Oh, they don't walk up to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a movie director and go So what's it like owning

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<v Speaker 2>your own business? Very different than if in your other fields, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's true you take that step out into owning

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<v Speaker 2>your creative side now, depending on your culture, depending on

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<v Speaker 2>the voices in your head, depending on what age those

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<v Speaker 2>voices come from. Right, It's not always been a exciting

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I'm so excited my kid's going to

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<v Speaker 2>make glass, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>My aspiration for her was to make glass. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just Susan. Isn't using example, Susan, But what was

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<v Speaker 2>it around? Did you have support when you decided to

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<v Speaker 2>make this your craft? You know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times people like see it as something

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<v Speaker 2>they do on the side. So did you have support

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<v Speaker 2>and what did that look like? Because many times we

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<v Speaker 2>have to support ourselves, even the best of entrepreneurs, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's creative or not.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Susan, did you have support in stepping into this

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<v Speaker 2>and if you didn't, what did you do to get

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<v Speaker 2>yourself over that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, great, great question. First of all, I was born

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<v Speaker 4>to be creative and artistic. And I listened to parental

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<v Speaker 4>and society messages and put everything away and who I

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<v Speaker 4>really am in a closet at age ten and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't take it out until four twenty seven. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was terrified because I was told get serious about life,

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<v Speaker 4>get you know, never get a job as an artist.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't make a living. All of those messages. I

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<v Speaker 4>listened to authority. And I have a very loving husband

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<v Speaker 4>of thirty two years who always saw himself as an

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<v Speaker 4>artist right from childhood, as did his parents. And he

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<v Speaker 4>loved me until I could love myself. And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>Right on, right on, I love it. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for sharing that. And what about yourself, Jill, when

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<v Speaker 3>It just was.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I again, my heart wasn't in it. So

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<v Speaker 5>I started doing women's retreats while I still were I

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<v Speaker 5>took the long path. I got through teaching and got

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<v Speaker 2>That's great support. When the when the downloads come and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's a confirmation, then that's a strong that's

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<v Speaker 2>just that's just, that's someone on that's a good boarder

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<v Speaker 3>I was not supported when I chose to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the people I was looking to to support me, as

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, and then eventually I was acting, and then

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<v Speaker 3>to make more consistent income. I didn't have the confidence

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<v Speaker 3>in myself, so over time I shut down on my

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<v Speaker 3>although my kind of rebirth came out of leaving my

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<v Speaker 3>just been it's been twelve years of that return and

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<v Speaker 3>I am so grateful to say, yes, I'm back to

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<v Speaker 3>life and people who are are beyond supportive. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>I was ready for it, then I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>I could receive it if it was there before.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, fantastic, So I mean I listen from a different ear.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to like how our listeners are listening right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that that's super powerful, whether it's something

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<v Speaker 2>in creative of whether it's an idea that you have.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I believe that there is so much more

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<v Speaker 2>them into businesses and having people understand that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a singer, there's a business attached. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>a painter, there's a singer attached. If you're an accountant,

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<v Speaker 2>there's you know, there's a business attached. Sor is what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So you know you all need to you

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<v Speaker 2>all have kind of these roofs and you all kind

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<v Speaker 3>Need money for that.

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<v Speaker 2>What are right? What are some of I love to

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<v Speaker 2>teach on this show about something that you do that

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<v Speaker 2>allows it to be easier, faster, smoother. I call that

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<v Speaker 2>top performance. I'm a top performance trainer for the specific

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<v Speaker 2>reason that you know, let's have more time to play,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's have more time to be abundant with the resources

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<v Speaker 2>of what our businesses, whether they're creative or not, bring in.

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<v Speaker 2>What's something that you do, maybe in the background for

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<v Speaker 2>your business that helps you do it a little quicker,

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<v Speaker 2>a little faster, a little smoother. I would call it

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<v Speaker 2>top performance. You might just call it a strategy, Susan

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself, What's something that you do that has been

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think underneath all that is your belief about

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<v Speaker 4>creativity itself. Because you said, and you're in the introduction,

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<v Speaker 4>it's about having five new ideas every single day and

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<v Speaker 4>you haven't even had breakfast yet. So keeping that imagination

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<v Speaker 4>alive so that you do the piece that is truly

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<v Speaker 4>your spirit inspired in spirit, and one of a kind,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in terms of how you might act or

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<v Speaker 4>do a podcast and support a retreat or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And it comes down to sometimes you're going to feel blocked,

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<v Speaker 4>like you said, debris. Sometimes you got to walk away.

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<v Speaker 4>You need the rest. You're not in spirit or inspired

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<v Speaker 4>at that moment. What do you believe about creativity? If

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<v Speaker 4>you believe that you have to deserve it, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to show up or it goes to someone else, or

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<v Speaker 4>it disappears. Because you hear people say I'm blocked right now,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the most important thing to get back on track

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<v Speaker 4>faster with more joy, or at least sit in the

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<v Speaker 4>our birthright. You don't have to earn it. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>go away. I don't care if you're away for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>It is with us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just being in alignment with where we came from

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<v Speaker 4>in the universe and know that it is always there

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<v Speaker 4>and if it's stuck or it's just blocked at that moment,

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<v Speaker 4>it's yours and it's there. Just take the time back

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<v Speaker 4>away if you need to, or go out and play

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<v Speaker 4>with your girlfriends, go and do something that has nothing

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<v Speaker 4>get away Esther Hicks is so good about saying that,

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<v Speaker 4>just go and play and don't think about it. But fundamentally,

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<v Speaker 4>to take a lot longer to get back on track

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<v Speaker 2>Lots to digest there. Thank you so much. And Jill,

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<v Speaker 2>what about for yourself? What about for yourself?

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<v Speaker 5>seen me in a while. And December twenty three, fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>I said, she got fifteen minutes because I got an

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<v Speaker 5>groups and my women's and all the visibility I'd worked.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm getting my head back and the reality is

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's my assignment to me this year. I

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<v Speaker 5>write books for my grandkids. It's sad that I want

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<v Speaker 5>to keep my visions I think the right thing will

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<v Speaker 5>come up and pop up right now. I'm worth it

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm going to do it, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>have fun doing it. And maybe you'll see a new

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for the transparency and sharing where

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<v Speaker 2>you're at. And I think, just like Susan was sharing,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's an inside journey, right, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>inside journey. I mean you talk about it with your journal,

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<v Speaker 2>and you talk about with your leadership. You talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it when you get people to like put something into

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<v Speaker 2>show and yay you. That's like, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 2>had a glass of champagne, my friend, I would cheers.

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<v Speaker 2>You welcome to the journey, and I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>hearing how that unfolds. And you know, you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>sisterhood of women that are ready to support you. We've

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<v Speaker 2>loved you and we'll love you back. That's fantastic. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, and jen for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>On a practical level, scheduling is really important for top performance.

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<v Speaker 3>I have so many ideas flying around that I need

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<v Speaker 3>to create some order and prioritize. So that's a practical

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<v Speaker 3>skill that I've had to develop and practice, but on

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<v Speaker 3>a regular, daily, sort of deeper level, it's journaling. There

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<v Speaker 3>are some fundamental questions that I consider foundational that we

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<v Speaker 3>might be, What does it mean to me? And why

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<v Speaker 3>does that matter? Those questions I have found, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>like why are you in my journal? What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you choose this? What does it mean to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Why does it matter? When we get into that foundational

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<v Speaker 3>knowing why something matters to us, we are more resourced

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<v Speaker 3>in a kind of I'll use the word again, foundational way,

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<v Speaker 3>so that when we're challenged, when we have self doubt,

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<v Speaker 3>I run a business? We go back to the why

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<v Speaker 3>and the what, And for me, that is a regular

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<v Speaker 3>and why am I offering it? Why am I? Who

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<v Speaker 3>am I serving all of those questions?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that And what I hear when you say

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<v Speaker 2>you might be tired, you might be this, you might

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, extended yourself emotionally or financially or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But if your why is still alive and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you come back to, it within itself is a very

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<v Speaker 2>powerful fuel, if within yourself. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>I do to revive, Like I was just in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I was sharing Jill a little bit maybe before show

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<v Speaker 2>that I was in New York and I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do a presentation that I've done many times, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's about the two sixty two movement and this and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about women. I mean, this is not difficult, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but something told me to rewrite, and so I just

433
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<v Speaker 2>rewrote what I was going to say and it reinspired

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<v Speaker 2>me before I got to the presentation, Like, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>refueled in a different way.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when you try doing something different or use

438
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<v Speaker 2>a different color when you're painting or whatever it is,

439
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<v Speaker 2>and I felt refueled. It wasn't that I didn't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that just checking in. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>checking in.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to add to that that it's you

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<v Speaker 3>can't rely like I don't rely on motivation. It's so consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's not reliable. But when you know your

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<v Speaker 3>go back to what is it that I want? Why

446
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<v Speaker 3>am I here? Why does this matter? That will move

447
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<v Speaker 3>you to the discipline? And I use that word lightly

448
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<v Speaker 3>much more than motivation, which is, yeah, not reliable.

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<v Speaker 2>We're dependable right on, right on inspiration. Okay, look, ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>we're coming to an end, and I want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about We've talked about business, We've talked about creativity, We've

452
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<v Speaker 2>talked about support, we've talked about being inspired. We've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the things that we do and how we take

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves to the world. And you know, we talk about

455
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<v Speaker 2>on this show a lot about people being on the mission.

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<v Speaker 2>And some people have been on the mission for sixty

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<v Speaker 2>days and some people have been on the mission for

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. What keeps you on the mission? Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about risk, right, I want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about risk. We've talked about support. So we talk about

461
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<v Speaker 2>risk in the sense of there's things that we do

462
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<v Speaker 2>that we put ourselves up against the wall a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>We find ourselves uncomfortable. I always say, when you find

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<v Speaker 2>yourself uncomfortable, get really excited. There's probably a bigger paycheck coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know what I mean. It's like expanding

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and those kind of things. So there's the risks

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<v Speaker 2>that we take. I love you to share something that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of scary, you know, but I also want

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<v Speaker 2>you to share so in the same sentence. So we

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, got a few minutes in the wrap

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<v Speaker 2>up here share something that you know you were like, hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, maybe it was asking that

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<v Speaker 2>guy to collaborate with you know, your your glass and

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<v Speaker 2>your food.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other thing is share something cool, Like just

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<v Speaker 2>share something cool and an unforeseen You did the business plan,

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<v Speaker 2>your creatives probably not you know, you did. You did

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<v Speaker 2>the strategic plan, and you did you know, you thought

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<v Speaker 2>about what was your business? What was one of those

481
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<v Speaker 2>surprises that came that you thought that is freaking cool.

482
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<v Speaker 2>That would never have happened if you hadn't taken this venture.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jen, I'm gonna start with you.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest risk, I would say, in addition to honoring

485
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<v Speaker 3>my my heart, I left a relationship that was I

486
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<v Speaker 3>was very small in and following that, I left a

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<v Speaker 3>six figure corporate job, and I mean that was significant.

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<v Speaker 3>And I pursued my creative passions and that has been

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<v Speaker 3>growing and growing since. And then what was the other question?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing cool that's happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe you met somebody or oh, you know, what's really

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<v Speaker 6>cool is the women that I'm meeting who have told

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<v Speaker 6>me how their lives have changed by learning how to

494
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<v Speaker 6>be in relationship with themselves through journaling.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't know the impact would be as massive

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<v Speaker 3>as it as it has become and as it's becoming,

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<v Speaker 3>including I have a woman with cancer who has a

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<v Speaker 3>completely different perspective on her journey from what's come out

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<v Speaker 3>of her journaling from the prompt. I didn't expect that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also wrote a play which is being supported

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<v Speaker 3>by a theater company in Toronto. Theater past Marai and

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<v Speaker 3>I have received awards and grants from my writing that

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<v Speaker 3>also came out of me taking the risk to presume

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna cry my creative passions. So it's it's been hard,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's been worth every every risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, thank you so much, Jill. I mean, you've just

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<v Speaker 2>shared like you are, you are in the you know

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<v Speaker 2>you are taking a re risk this year, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know with what you had just shared. So why don't

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<v Speaker 2>we just go right to what is something cool? Since

511
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<v Speaker 2>you started to venture on this journey of entrepreneurship, this

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<v Speaker 2>journey of this create, this creative journey, what is something

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<v Speaker 2>really cool that's happened.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the topics I've used in one of my

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<v Speaker 5>speeches somewhere was about find my voice. And I had

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<v Speaker 5>that creativity in me and I was getting those nudgets

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<v Speaker 5>to do it. But I've learned more and more how

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<v Speaker 5>to speak up for what's important to me. I always

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to travel. We just bought a new camper. We're

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<v Speaker 5>going to Colorado to spring. I always wanted to go

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<v Speaker 5>to events and learn. This last year I went to

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<v Speaker 5>Kaprala and listened to Tammack Cheeves, who I'd had in

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<v Speaker 5>my mind to go see for over five years. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think my risk is getting it out of my

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<v Speaker 5>mouth and finding it comes out better than I thought

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<v Speaker 5>it would. That Okay, Sometimes I bumped up the ginna

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<v Speaker 5>small or get rubbed a little, but it's nampening and

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<v Speaker 5>I helping me to speak up more and about more

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<v Speaker 5>important things as I go on.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on, Thank you so much, and Susan risk and

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<v Speaker 2>something cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah Risk, Well, I told you about opening charts glass

533
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<v Speaker 4>studio with very little experience, but also that entrepreneur piece

534
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<v Speaker 4>in and out of dental hygiene teaching and clinical I

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<v Speaker 4>have techy terrors. I used to cry every day. Now

536
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<v Speaker 4>I only cry about once every three months when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to technology. And I paid and used my profession

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<v Speaker 4>like get serious about life. You can't make a living

539
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<v Speaker 4>as an artist like the sixth figure corporate I've done

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<v Speaker 4>that too, and the academia. And I used my resources

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<v Speaker 4>to hire web a wonderful web developer, to get me

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<v Speaker 4>up and running with my art and so on and

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<v Speaker 4>so for it. So that was a risk of using

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<v Speaker 4>my resources and being really happy to go to that

545
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<v Speaker 4>dental hygiene clinic where there were wonderful patients. But I

546
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<v Speaker 4>went there with the joy of knowing that one day

547
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<v Speaker 4>of wages was going to my web developer, who was

548
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<v Speaker 4>also my mentor, and so I went with even more

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<v Speaker 4>joy because it was feeding my passion. And the other

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<v Speaker 4>risk is that waiting piece that when we were talking

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<v Speaker 4>about earlier. I do custom pendance for people where I

552
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<v Speaker 4>actually download their story in the glass. I've had a

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<v Speaker 4>number of authors and speakers and that have been my clients.

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<v Speaker 4>And one listened from Palm Spring since she was speaking

555
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<v Speaker 4>in Seattle, known throughout North America for published book and

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<v Speaker 4>her movement that she was part of and created, and

557
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<v Speaker 4>I promised that her daughter would be part of the pendant.

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<v Speaker 4>Her daughter passed away from drug addiction and her the

559
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<v Speaker 4>daughter's spirit didn't come to me, So I walked away

560
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<v Speaker 4>for three weeks. I closed the door of the studio

561
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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't go back. And I had to fast

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<v Speaker 4>mail that pendant on a Saturday to her on the

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<v Speaker 4>Friday to her sister in Seattle, because she was on

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<v Speaker 4>stage in Seattle on Saturday morning, and I almost missed

565
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<v Speaker 4>that deadline, but I stayed true to my commitment to

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<v Speaker 4>myself and to make sure that her it was her

567
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<v Speaker 4>story that was in that pendant and no one else's,

568
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<v Speaker 4>and that her daughter showed up and that her daughter

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<v Speaker 4>was in that pendant to the percentage that she specified

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<v Speaker 4>how much she wanted that daughter to her daughter to

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<v Speaker 4>be in that pendant. So the risk was losing that contract,

572
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<v Speaker 4>losing that deadline date, and I'm missing it because I

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<v Speaker 4>and when it comes right down to the wire, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you make of?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you believe?

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<v Speaker 4>And will you act on your beliefs or act to

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<v Speaker 4>complete something? Because the end the you know you're trying

578
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<v Speaker 4>to please someone or make the money or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's was a risk. And I've done that twice now

580
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<v Speaker 4>with another client as well, and it's wonderful because as

581
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<v Speaker 4>you go through the journey of entrepreneur and creative, you

582
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<v Speaker 4>find out what you're made of. And that's great and

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<v Speaker 4>the joy for me. The really cool thing is I've

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<v Speaker 4>won many accolades and prizes as an academic nationally, and

585
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<v Speaker 4>it took me till year seven to enter art pieces

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<v Speaker 4>in a very prestigious juried art show. My first nine

587
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<v Speaker 4>pieces for the first three years were rejected. The next year,

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<v Speaker 4>year four, one piece was accepted. I was absolutely over

589
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<v Speaker 4>the moon. And the next year my piece won a

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<v Speaker 4>jurors award and I'm sitting in this special place where

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<v Speaker 4>all the winners were to go up and get their

592
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<v Speaker 4>award and the biggest thing for me is I got

593
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<v Speaker 4>one hundred dollars gift certickific from an art store. And

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you how special that was for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is a terrified forty seven year old That

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<v Speaker 4>took two years of banks before I even owned that

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<v Speaker 4>I was an artist. It took a lot. And here

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<v Speaker 4>I am sitting there receiving an award and standing in

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<v Speaker 4>an art store picking out new pencils and heard and

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<v Speaker 4>that was more thrilling to me in many many ways

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<v Speaker 4>than the national accolades I had received earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on, that is incredible, what a variety. This has

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<v Speaker 2>been such a very fabulous show. I think all of

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<v Speaker 2>you ladies for being so forthcoming in sharing. You're sharing

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<v Speaker 2>your stories and your experience, says, I have no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>the listeners feel like I was talking about in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're around creatives and you hear the story and

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<v Speaker 2>you hear their process, there's just something really cleaning and clearing,

609
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<v Speaker 2>almost uric, you know, where you just feel lighter, you

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<v Speaker 2>feel brighter, you feel hopeful, you feel inspired. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very excited. This has been a fantastic show listeners. As

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<v Speaker 2>you always know, we have all and everybody's information in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes. If something that you said resonated or

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<v Speaker 2>something they said resonated and you want to lean in,

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<v Speaker 2>please lean in, Please lean in and learn more. Go

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<v Speaker 2>on to their socials follows, see what they're doing. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what this is all about. We're super excited, and of course,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to sit, if you want to take

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<v Speaker 2>the risk and see the reward of sitting on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>admission accepted, or you want to come into our stages

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<v Speaker 2>or goodness, we just opened up the book for our

622
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<v Speaker 2>final final revision before we take this book to the Emmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Very excited. Maybe by the time you hear this, we

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<v Speaker 2>probably would have been at the oscars. I mean, who

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<v Speaker 2>would have known. This is the unforeseen, unforetold experience of

626
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<v Speaker 2>walking your journey. So if you'd like to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the book, this is your last chance to come and

628
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<v Speaker 2>share your stories and your words. We'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you. Thank you for being such an incredible audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for doing what you're doing, ladies, Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for sharing with us today. We're super excited, and as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wish you well and I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to stay gruby. So until we see you next time. Bye,

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<v Speaker 2>for now go
