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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to another exciting group show for you.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, when you start talking to experts,
Speaker 2: the experts just rise to the top and guess what
Speaker 2: they know experts and they refer experts, And our show
Speaker 2: is a very abundant It is blossoming with the coolest
Speaker 2: people doing the coolest thing and this is great. We're
Speaker 2: super excited. So, you know, Carmel works behind the scenes
Speaker 2: and we got creative and thought, who are some of
Speaker 2: the people that we want to highlight on the show
Speaker 2: this year, and we're like, we got to have some
Speaker 2: creatives in the house. I mean, most of the people
Speaker 2: that hang with us have a little bit of creativity,
Speaker 2: because if not, they would think we're kind of cray Cray.
Speaker 2: But there's people that own it and embody the whole
Speaker 2: concept of being creative. And we love hanging with those people.
Speaker 2: You know them, you walk in the room, they have
Speaker 2: a vibe right You go to them, and you feel
Speaker 2: different when you walk away. You know what you feel.
Speaker 2: You feel like you have potential. You feel like the
Speaker 2: world's hopeful because creatives are never ending seeing vision and
Speaker 2: creativity and expansion and envision and they're just cool people
Speaker 2: to hang out with. So if you don't have someone
Speaker 2: like that in your group, then you can just reach
Speaker 2: out to one of these ladies after the show and
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll hang with you and inspire you and
Speaker 2: motivate you. But let's get to who's hanging out with
Speaker 2: us today, because you too, as an audience. I mean,
Speaker 2: thank you so much. I mean I look at the
Speaker 2: analytics of the show because I am creative, but I'm
Speaker 2: also very analytical. Got to make sure we're hitting the
Speaker 2: right spots. And we are from all over the world.
Speaker 2: Right now, we are rocking the UK vibes. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for those of you that are sharing this message.
Speaker 2: And that's what happens when you expand. Everything you do expand.
Speaker 2: So let's introduce you to these incredible ladies. Now, keep
Speaker 2: in mind, I know some of you are listening and
Speaker 2: some of you are viewing, and so I'm going to
Speaker 2: have just for those that are viewing, I'm going to
Speaker 2: get our creatives to kind of stick their hand up.
Speaker 2: They can do whatever they want, just to let you
Speaker 2: know who it is that's speaking. So miss Susan Isaac,
Speaker 2: please let us know who you are in the show today. Awesome,
Speaker 2: I'm very cool. And Jill McCarthy, all right, there she
Speaker 2: is there, she's with a cool green background. And then
Speaker 2: we have Jen who we almost changed name pre show
Speaker 2: Jen for Forgie. Forgie. We were talking in different languages
Speaker 2: before the show having fun with her name. So luck ladies,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to ask you simply you are creatives.
Speaker 2: Share with us what kind of creative work would you do?
Speaker 2: And I'm going to tie these two questions, So what
Speaker 2: do you do? And what was the moment that you
Speaker 2: knew that this is the direction that you wanted to
Speaker 2: go in?
Speaker 3: What you know?
Speaker 2: This was the like being being going from wherever you
Speaker 2: went to into the creative field. And maybe you were
Speaker 2: just born that way. So maybe share that a little
Speaker 2: bit with us, Susan, let's start.
Speaker 4: With you him. I live in Souk, the west side
Speaker 4: of Vancouver Island, and I help people unlock their creativity
Speaker 4: and reconnect with their joy and other people through hands
Speaker 4: on glassware and unforgettable culinary experiences. I'm a foodie as
Speaker 4: well as a glass artist, and I create glass so
Speaker 4: glassware and also this is a digital image of glass
Speaker 4: behind me and around my neck, and I create symbols
Speaker 4: of transformation butterfly wings for women to tell their story
Speaker 4: of transformation in glass and wear it close to their hearts.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So if you love to have that
Speaker 2: around you, cool and then if you want to learn,
Speaker 2: that's so great. And I've seen some of your really
Speaker 2: cool posts on social where you got the food and
Speaker 2: the glass and this hole going going on, and I mean,
Speaker 2: who needs an excuse to have food? It's super fun.
Speaker 2: I love that because it's a community as well, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: And you know that's what we're big on here. This
Speaker 2: is a media community, but we're also you're part of
Speaker 2: the two sixty two Sisterhood and we like to call
Speaker 2: ourselves the sustainable Soul from our sisterhood. And it is
Speaker 2: a very cool community. And I know that you do
Speaker 2: that within your own craft. We've got lots of communities
Speaker 2: within our communities today. And Miss Jill McCarthy, so what
Speaker 2: do you do that's creative and what was your moment
Speaker 2: that made you go sure, sign me up.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm a former elementary teacher about my father. It
Speaker 5: was within it, and then I went to women's retreats,
Speaker 5: and at my very first women's retreat, I used the
Speaker 5: verse about heart's desires. Now I've spent time with women's groups.
Speaker 5: I have a podcast, The Geeky Grandma within Encourage, I've
Speaker 5: been a speaker international and even now on stage. But
Speaker 5: I've spent the time telling those other women to follow
Speaker 5: their heart's desire. And I've made twenty twenty five the
Speaker 5: year I start following my heart's desire and make sure
Speaker 5: that my desires don't go on touch. And I'm a
Speaker 5: digital artist and I'm going to read up the graphic
Speaker 5: novel that I started a few years ago. I'm now
Speaker 5: a plush and so I'm really picked this year to
Speaker 5: start those creative I get to refill my tank with
Speaker 5: the creative uses. And that's why I picked tick on
Speaker 5: on this one rather than your podcast one.
Speaker 3: That is.
Speaker 2: I love that, And you know what, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: we can all relate to having to take that time
Speaker 2: and retreat. You hear writers going on writers retreats are
Speaker 2: going solo, you know.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Right now me and Carmel, we're talking for the show
Speaker 2: and Ocean. My son is working on a twelve twelve picture,
Speaker 2: like a you know, doing twelve pieces of art for
Speaker 2: a you know, TV reality show. There's twelve episodes, that's
Speaker 2: what it is. And we were talking about how he's
Speaker 2: struggling with that last piece where it doesn't just flow
Speaker 2: because there's twelve do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: he had Now he's at the twelfth line. And sometimes
Speaker 2: you have to retreat. Sometimes you have to go in.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to go away. Sometimes you have to refuel.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to stop and do whatever it is
Speaker 2: that that creative needs to tap back in. Right, fill
Speaker 2: up the cup. I am excited for you. I'm so
Speaker 2: excited for you, Jill. And oh my gosh, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: We have a new friend on the show today and
Speaker 2: that's Jen. So Jen, please share with us what you do,
Speaker 2: what you're about, and what was that moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I'm an actor. I'm a professional actor, and I'm
Speaker 3: also a writer and a playwright.
Speaker 4: And one of the.
Speaker 3: Natural sort of progressions of my work is taking my
Speaker 3: creativity and I now create and I lead journaling workshops
Speaker 3: for personal and professional development and growth, but also for
Speaker 3: healing and for well being. So I have many different
Speaker 3: themes of journaling that I take to different groups. I'm
Speaker 3: going to be moving into grief journaling. I bring it
Speaker 3: to corporate. I'm actually heading to BC tomorrow to lead
Speaker 3: to be a part of a women in Leadership workshop
Speaker 3: where I'll be bringing my journaling. And this is not
Speaker 3: your dear diary kind of journaling. This is this is creative,
Speaker 3: expressive journaling for knowing who we are, not just our
Speaker 3: dreams and our ideas, but our creativity. It's being in
Speaker 3: conversation with ourselves so we understand who we are, who
Speaker 3: we are in the world, expanding our perspectives. I just
Speaker 3: I love it the moment. I've always wanted to be
Speaker 3: an actor. I've always I've always been a writer. Ever
Speaker 3: since I was a kid, I was writing and creating stories,
Speaker 3: and so it's just it's just unfolded. And I'm actually
Speaker 3: very passionate about healing and honoring our truths. So, like
Speaker 3: listening to both Susan and Jill, I'm like, yeah, taking
Speaker 3: time for ourselves, what are my desires, what is my
Speaker 3: path and bringing that to other people in a way
Speaker 3: that they become self reliant through their own trusting their
Speaker 3: own voice through writing.
Speaker 5: Right on.
Speaker 2: Wow, very incredible. Look, let's talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: the support because when we see people in creatives, it's
Speaker 2: interesting because in our books and on our stages, we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we have actors and directors and people that are in
Speaker 2: their craft and artists and painters, and people see them
Speaker 2: as painters and artists and you know, actors and actresses,
Speaker 2: but they don't see them as entrepreneurs. They don't see
Speaker 2: them as entrepreneurs. It's not the first thing that pops
Speaker 2: into the head. Oh, they don't walk up to, you know,
Speaker 2: a movie director and go So what's it like owning
Speaker 2: your own business? Very different than if in your other fields, right,
Speaker 2: But it's true you take that step out into owning
Speaker 2: your creative side now, depending on your culture, depending on
Speaker 2: the voices in your head, depending on what age those
Speaker 2: voices come from. Right, It's not always been a exciting
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited my kid's going to
Speaker 2: make glass, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
Speaker 2: My aspiration for her was to make glass. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm just Susan. Isn't using example, Susan, But what was
Speaker 2: it around? Did you have support when you decided to
Speaker 2: make this your craft? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: a lot of times people like see it as something
Speaker 2: they do on the side. So did you have support
Speaker 2: and what did that look like? Because many times we
Speaker 2: have to support ourselves, even the best of entrepreneurs, whether
Speaker 2: it's creative or not.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So, Susan, did you have support in stepping into this
Speaker 2: and if you didn't, what did you do to get
Speaker 2: yourself over that?
Speaker 3: Hume?
Speaker 4: Yeah, great, great question. First of all, I was born
Speaker 4: to be creative and artistic. And I listened to parental
Speaker 4: and society messages and put everything away and who I
Speaker 4: really am in a closet at age ten and I
Speaker 4: didn't take it out until four twenty seven. And I
Speaker 4: was terrified because I was told get serious about life,
Speaker 4: get you know, never get a job as an artist.
Speaker 4: You can't make a living. All of those messages. I
Speaker 4: listened to authority. And I have a very loving husband
Speaker 4: of thirty two years who always saw himself as an
Speaker 4: artist right from childhood, as did his parents. And he
Speaker 4: loved me until I could love myself. And it's just
Speaker 4: a very special gift. And also friends and family who
Speaker 4: saw me saw the artistic, creative self. And yes, I
Speaker 4: had a very large bill for my clothing because I
Speaker 4: was decorating myself as an okay outlet. But I had
Speaker 4: to The big lesson was I had to allow other
Speaker 4: people to love me until I loved myself, so I
Speaker 4: could get through that fear at forty seven and go
Speaker 4: forward and two with only two weekends of fuse glass workshops,
Speaker 4: I opened Shard's Glass Studio in nineteen ninety eight with
Speaker 4: only two lessons. My husband is going, what are you
Speaker 4: doing you you don't know enough about fuse glass to
Speaker 4: teach other people, And I said, yeah, but I know
Speaker 4: more than them. But the thing is, I had been
Speaker 4: a dental hygiene teacher for decades. I set up if
Speaker 4: I set it up like a dental lab. I knew
Speaker 4: how to teach psychomotor skills. I just transferred it to art.
Speaker 4: And did I know enough about fuse glass. No, but
Speaker 4: I did it anyway, and through that love and support,
Speaker 4: I've been teaching glass workshops since nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Right on, right on, I love it. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for sharing that. And what about yourself, Jill, when
Speaker 2: you decided to go from you know, being a school
Speaker 2: teacher to gey grandma on camera? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Well, I think my hairt wasn't in teaching. I'm able
Speaker 5: to teach, but I found that teaching the kids wasn't
Speaker 5: my niche that I loved working with adults. I found
Speaker 5: that through teaching an adult dead computer, of course, And
Speaker 5: I came out of there the first night and felt
Speaker 5: like Rocky.
Speaker 3: It just was.
Speaker 5: And then I again, my heart wasn't in it. So
Speaker 5: I started doing women's retreats while I still were I
Speaker 5: took the long path. I got through teaching and got
Speaker 5: my pension, and then I started my on the side business.
Speaker 5: But I think it's more like just listening. I call
Speaker 5: it to my guard here or to my body. First
Speaker 5: time I touched the keyboards, my hands knew what to do.
Speaker 5: First time I woke, I had a whole retreat laid
Speaker 5: out in my head. So I just listened to those
Speaker 5: voices and followed them.
Speaker 2: That's great support. When the when the downloads come and
Speaker 2: you know it's a confirmation, then that's a strong that's
Speaker 2: just that's just, that's someone on that's a good boarder
Speaker 2: director to have. Right, we had directors and what about you, Jen?
Speaker 3: I was not supported when I chose to go to
Speaker 3: university at Windsor for acting. My sister was supported, but
Speaker 3: the people I was looking to to support me, as
Speaker 3: we do our parents, it was not a viable way
Speaker 3: to make a living. But I went for it anyway,
Speaker 3: and uh, and then eventually I was acting, and then
Speaker 3: I got into a relationship and that person wanted me
Speaker 3: to make more consistent income. I didn't have the confidence
Speaker 3: in myself, so over time I shut down on my
Speaker 3: creativity and really tucked that away and then similar to Susan,
Speaker 3: although my kind of rebirth came out of leaving my
Speaker 3: relationship twenty years later and then I returned. So it's
Speaker 3: just been it's been twelve years of that return and
Speaker 3: I am so grateful to say, yes, I'm back to
Speaker 3: owning my creativity and I do have support in my
Speaker 3: life and people who are are beyond supportive. So it's
Speaker 3: I was ready for it, then I don't know that
Speaker 3: I could receive it if it was there before.
Speaker 2: Right, fantastic, So I mean I listen from a different ear.
Speaker 2: I listened to like how our listeners are listening right now,
Speaker 2: and I think that that's super powerful, whether it's something
Speaker 2: in creative of whether it's an idea that you have.
Speaker 2: I mean, I believe that there is so much more
Speaker 2: support around for all sectors being creatives and actually turning
Speaker 2: them into businesses and having people understand that. You know,
Speaker 2: if you're a singer, there's a business attached. If you're
Speaker 2: a painter, there's a singer attached. If you're an accountant,
Speaker 2: there's you know, there's a business attached. Sor is what
Speaker 2: I mean. So you know you all need to you
Speaker 2: all have kind of these roofs and you all kind
Speaker 2: of probably get hungry once in a while and need
Speaker 2: to feed yourself, and you.
Speaker 3: Need money for that.
Speaker 2: What are right? What are some of I love to
Speaker 2: teach on this show about something that you do that
Speaker 2: allows it to be easier, faster, smoother. I call that
Speaker 2: top performance. I'm a top performance trainer for the specific
Speaker 2: reason that you know, let's have more time to play,
Speaker 2: Let's have more time to be abundant with the resources
Speaker 2: of what our businesses, whether they're creative or not, bring in.
Speaker 2: What's something that you do, maybe in the background for
Speaker 2: your business that helps you do it a little quicker,
Speaker 2: a little faster, a little smoother. I would call it
Speaker 2: top performance. You might just call it a strategy, Susan
Speaker 2: for yourself, What's something that you do that has been
Speaker 2: able to make this an easier journey as a business person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think underneath all that is your belief about
Speaker 4: creativity itself. Because you said, and you're in the introduction,
Speaker 4: it's about having five new ideas every single day and
Speaker 4: you haven't even had breakfast yet. So keeping that imagination
Speaker 4: alive so that you do the piece that is truly
Speaker 4: your spirit inspired in spirit, and one of a kind,
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of how you might act or
Speaker 4: do a podcast and support a retreat or whatever it is.
Speaker 4: And it comes down to sometimes you're going to feel blocked,
Speaker 4: like you said, debris. Sometimes you got to walk away.
Speaker 4: You need the rest. You're not in spirit or inspired
Speaker 4: at that moment. What do you believe about creativity? If
Speaker 4: you believe that you have to deserve it, you have
Speaker 4: to show up or it goes to someone else, or
Speaker 4: it disappears. Because you hear people say I'm blocked right now,
Speaker 4: I'm the most important thing to get back on track
Speaker 4: faster with more joy, or at least sit in the
Speaker 4: quiet with calm and confidence is know that creativity is
Speaker 4: our birthright. You don't have to earn it. It doesn't
Speaker 4: go away. I don't care if you're away for twenty
Speaker 4: five years.
Speaker 3: It is with us.
Speaker 4: It's just being in alignment with where we came from
Speaker 4: in the universe and know that it is always there
Speaker 4: and if it's stuck or it's just blocked at that moment,
Speaker 4: it's yours and it's there. Just take the time back
Speaker 4: away if you need to, or go out and play
Speaker 4: with your girlfriends, go and do something that has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with your focus of your craft. For example,
Speaker 4: get away Esther Hicks is so good about saying that,
Speaker 4: just go and play and don't think about it. But fundamentally,
Speaker 4: if you're afraid that it's a it's not a it's
Speaker 4: not something that's with you inside of you all the time,
Speaker 4: you're going to be driven by fear and that's going
Speaker 4: to take a lot longer to get back on track
Speaker 4: and a lot longer to get in alignment with your
Speaker 4: imagination on Wow.
Speaker 2: Lots to digest there. Thank you so much. And Jill,
Speaker 2: what about for yourself? What about for yourself?
Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned when I first came on you hadn't
Speaker 5: seen me in a while. And December twenty three, fifteen
Speaker 5: minutes before I was going on a Zoom meeting for
Speaker 5: speaking in Atlanta, our friend sent me a message and said,
Speaker 5: I'm having trouble on my Facebook. Would you help me?
Speaker 5: I said, she got fifteen minutes because I got an
Speaker 5: important meeting and my pink book crash with all my
Speaker 5: groups and my women's and all the visibility I'd worked.
Speaker 5: And a day later, my brother's in the hospital emergency
Speaker 5: surgery for twenty inches of bio that I died and
Speaker 5: I melted down. And I had an old doctor who
Speaker 5: retired and a new young whipper snapper came in and
Speaker 5: he changed all my medications. And I spent last year
Speaker 5: getting my head back in order, and that took out
Speaker 5: a lot, and I had to regroup, and my business
Speaker 5: wasn't working and I had to come to that reality.
Speaker 5: And I'm getting my head back and the reality is
Speaker 5: right now. What I've learned about visits, I don't know
Speaker 5: how to make it work. And I've taken classes, I've
Speaker 5: worked with people, but maybe it's my self worth and
Speaker 5: maybe it's my value. And so I've spent this year
Speaker 5: working on those things. And like I said, you know,
Speaker 5: I have to follow my heart's desires. I was doing
Speaker 5: an encouragement woman session with a woman and I said,
Speaker 5: you know, what did you like to do when you
Speaker 5: were ages five to seven and what lights you up?
Speaker 5: And so that's my assignment to me this year. I
Speaker 5: passed to the seventieth birthday this last year, and I
Speaker 5: want to do it before my time's up. I want
Speaker 5: to do it at I don't care if I just
Speaker 5: write books for my grandkids. It's sad that I want
Speaker 5: to keep my visions I think the right thing will
Speaker 5: come up and pop up right now. I'm worth it
Speaker 5: and I'm going to do it, and I'm going to
Speaker 5: have fun doing it. And maybe you'll see a new
Speaker 5: book out in being published at some point. We'll see
Speaker 5: how it goes.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the transparency and sharing where
Speaker 2: you're at. And I think, just like Susan was sharing,
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's an inside journey, right, it's an
Speaker 2: inside journey. I mean you talk about it with your journal,
Speaker 2: and you talk about with your leadership. You talk about
Speaker 2: it when you get people to like put something into
Speaker 2: the glass and jil you talk about it on your
Speaker 2: show and yay you. That's like, you know, if I
Speaker 2: had a glass of champagne, my friend, I would cheers.
Speaker 2: You welcome to the journey, and I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: hearing how that unfolds. And you know, you've got a
Speaker 2: sisterhood of women that are ready to support you. We've
Speaker 2: loved you and we'll love you back. That's fantastic. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, and jen for yourself.
Speaker 3: On a practical level, scheduling is really important for top performance.
Speaker 3: I have so many ideas flying around that I need
Speaker 3: to create some order and prioritize. So that's a practical
Speaker 3: skill that I've had to develop and practice, but on
Speaker 3: a regular, daily, sort of deeper level, it's journaling. There
Speaker 3: are some fundamental questions that I consider foundational that we
Speaker 3: as entrepreneurs, as creatives in anything that you are a
Speaker 3: part of, there's some fundamental questions that like such as
Speaker 3: why am I choosing this, Why am I pursuing this
Speaker 3: this business? Why am I pursuing this career whatever it
Speaker 3: might be, What does it mean to me? And why
Speaker 3: does that matter? Those questions I have found, whether it's
Speaker 3: like why are you in my journal? What is it?
Speaker 3: Why did you choose this? What does it mean to you?
Speaker 3: Why does it matter? When we get into that foundational
Speaker 3: knowing why something matters to us, we are more resourced
Speaker 3: in a kind of I'll use the word again, foundational way,
Speaker 3: so that when we're challenged, when we have self doubt,
Speaker 3: when we have those days or we don't feel as
Speaker 3: skilled to lead in a business sense, like how do
Speaker 3: I run a business? We go back to the why
Speaker 3: and the what, And for me, that is a regular
Speaker 3: set of questions that I will visit just to keep
Speaker 3: myself on that performance path and building of my work
Speaker 3: and why am I offering it? Why am I? Who
Speaker 3: am I serving all of those questions?
Speaker 2: I love that And what I hear when you say
Speaker 2: it is clarity and I'm refueling. I mean, it's very
Speaker 2: inspiring and reinspiring to stay on top of your why. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you might be tired, you might be this, you might
Speaker 2: have you know, extended yourself emotionally or financially or whatever.
Speaker 2: But if your why is still alive and that's what
Speaker 2: you come back to, it within itself is a very
Speaker 2: powerful fuel, if within yourself. And one of the things
Speaker 2: I do to revive, Like I was just in New York.
Speaker 2: I was sharing Jill a little bit maybe before show
Speaker 2: that I was in New York and I had to
Speaker 2: do a presentation that I've done many times, right, and
Speaker 2: it's about the two sixty two movement and this and
Speaker 2: talk about women. I mean, this is not difficult, right,
Speaker 2: but something told me to rewrite, and so I just
Speaker 2: rewrote what I was going to say and it reinspired
Speaker 2: me before I got to the presentation, Like, I felt
Speaker 2: refueled in a different way.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It's like when you try doing something different or use
Speaker 2: a different color when you're painting or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: and I felt refueled. It wasn't that I didn't have it.
Speaker 2: So I love that just checking in. I love that
Speaker 2: checking in.
Speaker 3: I just want to add to that that it's you
Speaker 3: can't rely like I don't rely on motivation. It's so consistent.
Speaker 3: It's just it's not reliable. But when you know your
Speaker 3: go back to what is it that I want? Why
Speaker 3: am I here? Why does this matter? That will move
Speaker 3: you to the discipline? And I use that word lightly
Speaker 3: much more than motivation, which is, yeah, not reliable.
Speaker 2: We're dependable right on, right on inspiration. Okay, look, ladies,
Speaker 2: we're coming to an end, and I want to talk
Speaker 2: about We've talked about business, We've talked about creativity, We've
Speaker 2: talked about support, we've talked about being inspired. We've talked
Speaker 2: about the things that we do and how we take
Speaker 2: ourselves to the world. And you know, we talk about
Speaker 2: on this show a lot about people being on the mission.
Speaker 2: And some people have been on the mission for sixty
Speaker 2: days and some people have been on the mission for
Speaker 2: ten years. What keeps you on the mission? Well, I
Speaker 2: want to talk about risk, right, I want to talk
Speaker 2: about risk. We've talked about support. So we talk about
Speaker 2: risk in the sense of there's things that we do
Speaker 2: that we put ourselves up against the wall a little bit.
Speaker 2: We find ourselves uncomfortable. I always say, when you find
Speaker 2: yourself uncomfortable, get really excited. There's probably a bigger paycheck coming.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean. It's like expanding
Speaker 2: yourself and those kind of things. So there's the risks
Speaker 2: that we take. I love you to share something that
Speaker 2: was kind of scary, you know, but I also want
Speaker 2: you to share so in the same sentence. So we
Speaker 2: just you know, got a few minutes in the wrap
Speaker 2: up here share something that you know you were like, hmmm,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, maybe it was asking that
Speaker 2: guy to collaborate with you know, your your glass and
Speaker 2: your food.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But the other thing is share something cool, Like just
Speaker 2: share something cool and an unforeseen You did the business plan,
Speaker 2: your creatives probably not you know, you did. You did
Speaker 2: the strategic plan, and you did you know, you thought
Speaker 2: about what was your business? What was one of those
Speaker 2: surprises that came that you thought that is freaking cool.
Speaker 2: That would never have happened if you hadn't taken this venture.
Speaker 2: So Jen, I'm gonna start with you.
Speaker 3: The biggest risk, I would say, in addition to honoring
Speaker 3: my my heart, I left a relationship that was I
Speaker 3: was very small in and following that, I left a
Speaker 3: six figure corporate job, and I mean that was significant.
Speaker 3: And I pursued my creative passions and that has been
Speaker 3: growing and growing since. And then what was the other question?
Speaker 2: Nothing cool that's happened.
Speaker 6: Maybe you met somebody or oh, you know, what's really
Speaker 6: cool is the women that I'm meeting who have told
Speaker 6: me how their lives have changed by learning how to
Speaker 6: be in relationship with themselves through journaling.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't know the impact would be as massive
Speaker 3: as it as it has become and as it's becoming,
Speaker 3: including I have a woman with cancer who has a
Speaker 3: completely different perspective on her journey from what's come out
Speaker 3: of her journaling from the prompt. I didn't expect that.
Speaker 3: And I also wrote a play which is being supported
Speaker 3: by a theater company in Toronto. Theater past Marai and
Speaker 3: I have received awards and grants from my writing that
Speaker 3: also came out of me taking the risk to presume
Speaker 3: I'm gonna cry my creative passions. So it's it's been hard,
Speaker 3: but it's been worth every every risk.
Speaker 2: Wow, thank you so much, Jill. I mean, you've just
Speaker 2: shared like you are, you are in the you know
Speaker 2: you are taking a re risk this year, and you
Speaker 2: know with what you had just shared. So why don't
Speaker 2: we just go right to what is something cool? Since
Speaker 2: you started to venture on this journey of entrepreneurship, this
Speaker 2: journey of this create, this creative journey, what is something
Speaker 2: really cool that's happened.
Speaker 5: One of the topics I've used in one of my
Speaker 5: speeches somewhere was about find my voice. And I had
Speaker 5: that creativity in me and I was getting those nudgets
Speaker 5: to do it. But I've learned more and more how
Speaker 5: to speak up for what's important to me. I always
Speaker 5: wanted to travel. We just bought a new camper. We're
Speaker 5: going to Colorado to spring. I always wanted to go
Speaker 5: to events and learn. This last year I went to
Speaker 5: Kaprala and listened to Tammack Cheeves, who I'd had in
Speaker 5: my mind to go see for over five years. So
Speaker 5: I think my risk is getting it out of my
Speaker 5: mouth and finding it comes out better than I thought
Speaker 5: it would. That Okay, Sometimes I bumped up the ginna
Speaker 5: small or get rubbed a little, but it's nampening and
Speaker 5: I helping me to speak up more and about more
Speaker 5: important things as I go on.
Speaker 2: Right on, Thank you so much, and Susan risk and
Speaker 2: something cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah Risk, Well, I told you about opening charts glass
Speaker 4: studio with very little experience, but also that entrepreneur piece
Speaker 4: in and out of dental hygiene teaching and clinical I
Speaker 4: have techy terrors. I used to cry every day. Now
Speaker 4: I only cry about once every three months when it
Speaker 4: comes to technology. And I paid and used my profession
Speaker 4: like get serious about life. You can't make a living
Speaker 4: as an artist like the sixth figure corporate I've done
Speaker 4: that too, and the academia. And I used my resources
Speaker 4: to hire web a wonderful web developer, to get me
Speaker 4: up and running with my art and so on and
Speaker 4: so for it. So that was a risk of using
Speaker 4: my resources and being really happy to go to that
Speaker 4: dental hygiene clinic where there were wonderful patients. But I
Speaker 4: went there with the joy of knowing that one day
Speaker 4: of wages was going to my web developer, who was
Speaker 4: also my mentor, and so I went with even more
Speaker 4: joy because it was feeding my passion. And the other
Speaker 4: risk is that waiting piece that when we were talking
Speaker 4: about earlier. I do custom pendance for people where I
Speaker 4: actually download their story in the glass. I've had a
Speaker 4: number of authors and speakers and that have been my clients.
Speaker 4: And one listened from Palm Spring since she was speaking
Speaker 4: in Seattle, known throughout North America for published book and
Speaker 4: her movement that she was part of and created, and
Speaker 4: I promised that her daughter would be part of the pendant.
Speaker 4: Her daughter passed away from drug addiction and her the
Speaker 4: daughter's spirit didn't come to me, So I walked away
Speaker 4: for three weeks. I closed the door of the studio
Speaker 4: and I didn't go back. And I had to fast
Speaker 4: mail that pendant on a Saturday to her on the
Speaker 4: Friday to her sister in Seattle, because she was on
Speaker 4: stage in Seattle on Saturday morning, and I almost missed
Speaker 4: that deadline, but I stayed true to my commitment to
Speaker 4: myself and to make sure that her it was her
Speaker 4: story that was in that pendant and no one else's,
Speaker 4: and that her daughter showed up and that her daughter
Speaker 4: was in that pendant to the percentage that she specified
Speaker 4: how much she wanted that daughter to her daughter to
Speaker 4: be in that pendant. So the risk was losing that contract,
Speaker 4: losing that deadline date, and I'm missing it because I
Speaker 4: and when it comes right down to the wire, what
Speaker 4: do you make of?
Speaker 3: What do you believe?
Speaker 4: And will you act on your beliefs or act to
Speaker 4: complete something? Because the end the you know you're trying
Speaker 4: to please someone or make the money or whatever. So
Speaker 4: that's was a risk. And I've done that twice now
Speaker 4: with another client as well, and it's wonderful because as
Speaker 4: you go through the journey of entrepreneur and creative, you
Speaker 4: find out what you're made of. And that's great and
Speaker 4: the joy for me. The really cool thing is I've
Speaker 4: won many accolades and prizes as an academic nationally, and
Speaker 4: it took me till year seven to enter art pieces
Speaker 4: in a very prestigious juried art show. My first nine
Speaker 4: pieces for the first three years were rejected. The next year,
Speaker 4: year four, one piece was accepted. I was absolutely over
Speaker 4: the moon. And the next year my piece won a
Speaker 4: jurors award and I'm sitting in this special place where
Speaker 4: all the winners were to go up and get their
Speaker 4: award and the biggest thing for me is I got
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars gift certickific from an art store. And
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how special that was for me.
Speaker 4: And this is a terrified forty seven year old That
Speaker 4: took two years of banks before I even owned that
Speaker 4: I was an artist. It took a lot. And here
Speaker 4: I am sitting there receiving an award and standing in
Speaker 4: an art store picking out new pencils and heard and
Speaker 4: that was more thrilling to me in many many ways
Speaker 4: than the national accolades I had received earlier.
Speaker 2: Right on, that is incredible, what a variety. This has
Speaker 2: been such a very fabulous show. I think all of
Speaker 2: you ladies for being so forthcoming in sharing. You're sharing
Speaker 2: your stories and your experience, says, I have no doubt
Speaker 2: the listeners feel like I was talking about in the beginning.
Speaker 2: When you're around creatives and you hear the story and
Speaker 2: you hear their process, there's just something really cleaning and clearing,
Speaker 2: almost uric, you know, where you just feel lighter, you
Speaker 2: feel brighter, you feel hopeful, you feel inspired. And I'm
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