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Breaking news, Joel Mbid 21 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:59.000 has has been suspended three games for shoving a columnist, 22 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.799 Scott Mitchell what's the closest you ever came to shoving 23 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:05.000 a columnist? 24 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.680 Actually, there, I am, Hello, Scott. 25 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:09.000 Hello. 26 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:14.959 I never I never shoved a columnist. Oh yeah, there 27 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:19.280 were some guys. I don't know if I should say this, Spence. 28 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:19.959 Oh no, no, no, we're here. 29 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.079 You got to say it now, go ahead, Just just 30 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:23.120 don't even think about it. 31 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:23.519 Just say it. 32 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.480 This is bad, Okay, this is really bad. So there 33 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.519 was a guy. Let's say, the Detroit media was kind 34 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.359 of for They were brutal and they still are, and 35 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:39.120 this guy was one of the most brutal. And uh 36 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:44.599 yeah he was. So I'm having hard time saying this. 37 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:45.799 I'll just say I don't care. 38 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:51.640 There you go. Not a boy. He died that escalated. 39 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:54.400 And he was young when he died. And this was 40 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:58.760 after I had left Detroit. I can't say that I 41 00:01:58.799 --> 00:01:59.680 shed many tears. 42 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:01.799 It got that, it got that tough. 43 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:06.239 Uh it was. It was the I have. My mom 44 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:06.879 was amazing. 45 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:11.520 She kept every every every newspaper article, everything. 46 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.319 Good and bad, oh all of it. 47 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.400 So so my whole entire career is documented and and 48 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.240 the books. When I go through Detroit, I can just 49 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.439 open the book, look at the picture, and go did 50 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:26.080 we win or lose. If we lost, it was a 51 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.759 crumpled picture of me being, you know, mauled by the defenders. 52 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:32.680 And if we won, it was this pristine picture of 53 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:33.479 Barry Sanders. 54 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:35.319 Oh okay, so Barry got all the love. 55 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.560 Oh yeah, of course, and and he was great and 56 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.199 he deserved it. But you know, it would have been 57 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.639 nice to just every once in a while have a 58 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:47.360 picture where, Okay, you know, we won this game and 59 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:48.159 they showed something good. 60 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:49.759 They were they're not they were not having it. 61 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.879 Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes I I'll chuckle a little 62 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.560 bit if I hear one of our local teams or 63 00:02:56.639 --> 00:03:00.280 PR people talk about the press in Salt Lake. I'm like, 64 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.400 what cause I you know, I grew up in the 65 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.759 New York market, sure, watching my father get beat up 66 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.719 every day by the thirteen daily periodicals and the six 67 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:09.039 sportstock radio stations. 68 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.400 Yes, so we have so many soft people here, so 69 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:13.520 many babies. I go, did you hear what they said 70 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.759 about us on the reading? Did you hear what Gordon 71 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:17.439 Monson wrote? I'm like, are you kidding? 72 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:21.319 You wouldn't survive for five minutes anywhere other than Salt Lake, 73 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:25.400 you cake, It's just ridiculous. But anyway, rant over Scott, 74 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.280 when we last spoke to you about thirty thirty five. 75 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.759 Minutes ago, I said to you, off fair, I said, look, 76 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:32.319 when I. 77 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:35.879 Listened to Brandon Rose talked to the media yesterday, it 78 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:37.039 sounded like a kid. 79 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.000 Who thought he was going to start. And you referenced 80 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.439 you had some clues after listening to Coach Wit. Yeah. 81 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.080 Yeah, you know, Coach Witting and I don't have personal information. 82 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:48.719 You know, this is just speculation. It's reading the tea leaves. 83 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:52.360 It's just kind of the nuances of voices. And one 84 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:54.639 of the things Coach Whitting him is he's a very 85 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:58.159 honest man, so he wants to answer the questions truthfully. 86 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:02.120 But he's also you know, he understands gamemanship and and 87 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:04.080 and you know, if you look at the visiting locker 88 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.520 room at right Cycle Stadium, you'll see that they're very 89 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:10.479 much into we're not giving anything to our opponent. I mean, 90 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.680 the locker is just it's a joke. It's uncomfortable. So 91 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.120 any way he can get an advantage, and so not 92 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.439 telling anyone who the starter is is part of that 93 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.879 advantage that that he kind of that's his mantra. 94 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:22.639 That's what he does. 95 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:27.000 But he was He was very clear to me about 96 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.240 if Isaac Wilson was a starter, and Isaac Wilson has 97 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.519 been the starter, I don't think. I don't think. I 98 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:34.240 don't think that. I think he would have just come 99 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.480 out and said that. But he said, we have a plan, 100 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.399 we know what we're doing, yep. And and I really 101 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:43.639 think that was And for that, I think, you know 102 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.319 it was it was Brandon Rose because I felt and 103 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:49.199 I go, just go watch the film and I can 104 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:50.680 sit down with you and I can show you the 105 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:53.279 film and I can show you the difference. And and 106 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:57.079 Brandon Rose really impressed me, like way through the ball 107 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:59.680 went he through the ball, the decisions, he was just 108 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:01.759 very decisive, he was very comfortable. 109 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:04.480 It's never this was just Houston. Yeah, and he hasn't played. 110 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.000 Look, I understand he hasn't played much, but he didn't 111 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.639 walk walk into cam Rising, hadn't played much, and he 112 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:11.519 steps in the game against San Diego State and all 113 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:14.240 of a sudden, it's like it was different. And that's 114 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:17.040 what I saw with Brandon Rose. And I understand, you know, 115 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.439 it's a small sample, but a very small sample that 116 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:24.040 kind of gave me some encouragement now, Isaac Isaac Wilson. 117 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.240 I'm not I'm not like against Isaac Wilson. I'm not 118 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:31.279 down on Isaac Wilson. He's young and and and you 119 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.279 can see that that maturity level is just really hard 120 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:39.160 for for a young guy to really go through the 121 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.560 whole season and mentally be there. If you've ever been 122 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:44.839 through a football season, let me tell you how it is. 123 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.959 It's a grind. It wears on you mentally, it wears 124 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.680 on you physically. They're they're a month into football before 125 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:55.120 they ever play a game. Coach Whittingham is not a 126 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.639 he you know, you want to talk about tough media, 127 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:01.279 He's a tough coach. His camps camp Kyle is not 128 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:05.040 for the light, you know that the timid and and 129 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:07.680 uh and so just that grind of going through all 130 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.399 of that is is a tough thing. And that's what 131 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.959 makes these teams, you know, tough during during the season. 132 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.160 And and he and it's it's it's who he is, 133 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.160 it's what he is. But when you have a young 134 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.279 quarterback he's trying to figure out things, it's just it's 135 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:25.040 just hard to to it's hard to almost breathe. You know, 136 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.439 you just feel like it feel like you're you're swimming. 137 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.680 To some degree. I haven't seen from Isaac any growth. 138 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.639 You know, you want to see that turjectory, and it's 139 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:38.480 just been flat, if like dipping. You know, the game, 140 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.439 you know, every game just looks like the same the 141 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.360 same game, and so there hasn't there. There just hasn't 142 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.920 been anything. And so it just just tells me he's 143 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:49.519 still young, still still learning, still trying to figure it out. 144 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:53.000 So I feel like Scott, if Utah is gonna win 145 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:54.839 this football game, because the fact of the matter is 146 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.079 they have not scored more than twenty three points against 147 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.439 the P four team. Right They hung forty nine on 148 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:03.720 Southern Youth, they hung thirty eight on Utah State. But 149 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.160 they're high as twenty three against Baylor, twenty two against 150 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:09.079 Okay State, and then it's been ten nineteen, seven, fourteen, 151 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.079 it feels like if Utah's going to win this game, 152 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:16.439 and as you outlined earlier, there's no data that indicates 153 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:17.920 Utah is the better football team. 154 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.319 But this game is weird. It always is. 155 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:22.600 So it feels like if Utah's going to win, it 156 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:26.240 has to be like seventeen fourteen or something. I mean, 157 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.040 do you anticipate coach Witt trying to really slow it 158 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.680 down and Ryde McKay as much as you can and 159 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.839 try to keep rets laugh off the field, Like. 160 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:34.399 How did you? 161 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:36.160 I guess the better way to ask it is, how 162 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:37.439 does Utah win this football game? 163 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:38.079 Well? 164 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.000 I think this offense when you saw Cam Rising in 165 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.279 the game was actually explosive when he was healthy, not 166 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.800 when he came back court. And I don't know how 167 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:52.040 good this offense. I know this players are good, they're talented. 168 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:55.199 They lost money Parks. That hurts because he's a deep threat, 169 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:59.879 and he's a legitimate deep threat. So you just haven't 170 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:03.759 I've seen a quarterback back there that can really, you know, 171 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:06.560 take this offense out of second gear, you know, and 172 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.319 like let's get it out there and let's really see 173 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:11.720 what happens. I think there's the potential of the offense 174 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.360 being explosive, and I'm really curious to see what Brandon 175 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:16.360 Rose could do with that. 176 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:19.879 You still feel like there's an explosive offensive performance left 177 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:20.439 on this roster. 178 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.879 There's just too much talent at the skill position, with 179 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.319 the tight ends, with the wide receivers that it's just 180 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:31.879 been inexperienced quarterback play and in an injured quarterback play, 181 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.320 And to me, the quarterbacks in college football make a 182 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:38.320 huge difference. I mean it's been a difference for BYU, 183 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:40.879 it's been a difference for every team in the country 184 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.080 that's doing well as you have an electrifying, game changing 185 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.159 quarterback and you just have to have that, and Utah 186 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:49.440 hasn't had it. 187 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.720 I think Utah's defense has done an. 188 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.240 Exceptional job this year, for sure. 189 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:59.039 But you've got to have you know, I don't think 190 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.799 seventeen points. I don't think having a defensive battle. I 191 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:03.559 don't think it wins the game for you. I think 192 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:06.080 you've got to You've got to be explosive. You've got 193 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.720 to be in the high twenties to maybe thirty points 194 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:10.279 if you're gonna have any shot in this game. 195 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:11.679 If you're you're the offense. 196 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.720 And we don't know Brandon Rose, we know what would 197 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.799 happen if Isaacson, there's probably not gonna happen. But maybe 198 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:19.799 you get a little explosive with Brandon Rose. 199 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:21.720 Who do you think the best defense is the Utah 200 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:22.879 have seen so far this year? 201 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:27.039 You know, you know h Houston, Okay, Houston was actually 202 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:29.039 they were and they were one of the one of 203 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:29.720 the top. 204 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:32.519 Defenses in the country. But here here's this is hard too. 205 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:36.399 It's hard because every defense that plays Utah plays them 206 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.879 a certain way, right, they load the box, they dare 207 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:42.919 Utah to throw the football. I mean, I mean, oh, 208 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.480 Oklahoma State did it, every Arizona did it. Arizona State 209 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.840 did it, every single team except. 210 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:51.120 Baylor because Cam was UNDERSTD Yeah, right. 211 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:53.480 And they all they all just said, we're gonna crowd 212 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:56.799 the box, We're gonna we're gonna be really aggressive, play 213 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.039 down hill, and so you do a lot of run blitzer, 214 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.320 so you get that early p So the run game 215 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:04.200 just gets blown up because they don't don't care, like 216 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.120 we'll throw caution to the win, because because you're consistently 217 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.960 not going to beat us on the outside. And the 218 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.159 defense has kept the offense in every game and Utah 219 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:17.120 has done nothing, nothing to scare defenses out of that. Look, 220 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.519 it's like every week I see the same I just 221 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:23.360 see the same thing that's gonna happen. And and but 222 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:27.279 but I really really thought of all the defenses that 223 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:29.559 that probably the best was Houston. 224 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:31.799 Yeah, and look they just be Case State. 225 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:35.279 I mean, I asked the question because I look I 226 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.120 was prior to. 227 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:40.399 I would say the TCU loss. 228 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:44.279 I was the radio host holding on to the final 229 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.200 branch before I hit the ground, and it felt like 230 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.200 everybody else's face was in the mud because prior to 231 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.399 the TCU loss, everything was still on the table. 232 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:53.960 You know, you can get in with two losses. 233 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.039 You have a schedule with head to head with other 234 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.440 teams in front of you, and now I just have 235 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:02.480 to be honest. My optimism for any sort of explosive 236 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:06.000 offensive performance Scott is not here today, which is why 237 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.519 I pose the question, because it feels like if Utah 238 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:10.440 is going to win John P's four and a score 239 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:13.080 defense scores, they turn BYU over in a way they 240 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.559 haven't turned anybody over all year. They're opportunistic, they get 241 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.240 a special teams or a defensive touchdown and Brandon just 242 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.559 doesn't turn it over and they cruise to some sort 243 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:25.799 of seventeen to ten type victory. But there's a chance 244 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:29.480 BYU's defense will be as tough of a defense that 245 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:33.120 Utah's offense has ever seen. So based off your knowledge 246 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.279 of defenses and how you've outlined the way teams are 247 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:38.679 trying to play against Utah, we anticipate that it's Brandon 248 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:41.039 so BYU's probably going to sell out to stop the 249 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.120 run like everyone else has. You're Mike Bajakian. How do 250 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.840 you take advantage of that defensive attack and scores score 251 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:48.320 some points in a way that we haven't seen in 252 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:48.679 a while. 253 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:51.879 Well, for me, everything always starts at first down. I mean, 254 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.039 you have to start there, and so you have to 255 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:59.240 be willing to get explosive on early downs and the 256 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.879 early part of a series. This is something about you 257 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.120 get off to a good play, a good start in 258 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:09.000 a drive, everything just and just flows. And and with 259 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.120 a guy who can throw it down the field, a 260 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.879 guy who's willing to throw it down the field. 261 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:13.799 Uh. 262 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:15.759 And and the play action game is such a big 263 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:17.879 part of what Utah has done in the past. It 264 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:20.919 gives you those chunk plays. So there are some play 265 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:24.200 action parts to to the offense that I would incorporate, 266 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.879 But I would I would be willing to open it 267 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.440 up on early downs and throw and throw the football. 268 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:31.120 And I keep saying it. 269 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.000 I feel like I'm a broken record with this, but 270 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.600 I mean, the tight ends have been so massively underutilized 271 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.279 and there's there's just a lot of confidence building plays 272 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.879 that tight ends bring to an offense that if you'll 273 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.639 use it, they're there there and they're open, and they're 274 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.679 just they're high percentage easy throws that they might be 275 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:51.960 a seven or eight yard catch which turns into an 276 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.240 eleven yard game, you know, if you throw it on 277 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:57.919 time and you throw it accurately. Uh, those are the 278 00:12:57.919 --> 00:12:59.960 things you get. You've got to you've got to really 279 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:04.360 break out of this extra guy in the box kind 280 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.080 of thing, and you've got to try to be a 281 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.279 little bit more explosive. The answer last week was, you know, 282 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.919 early it was just like we're gonna throw screens. We're 283 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:15.039 gonna and it worked once or twice, and and the 284 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:17.759 bubble screens, you know, the one to Keithy work, but 285 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:19.840 then the rest of the game, you know that it 286 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:20.639 didn't work at all. 287 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:23.240 But I just really think. 288 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.519 Brandon Rose brings an element of being able to throw 289 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:30.919 the ball down the field and his ability to actually 290 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:35.080 run and run decisively when things aren't there. Maybe that 291 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:37.759 key that kind of unlocks this offense just a little bit. 292 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:39.600 I want to go back to something you referenced in 293 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.039 our first hit to start the show, and just to 294 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:44.240 throw a few names We talked about a few of 295 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:47.279 these earlier. The Scott Mitchell's of the World, who in 296 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.879 ninety eight goes for three eighty four and three touchdowns, 297 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:53.399 The Eddie Johnson's of the World, the Mike McCoy's, the 298 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:58.000 Jamal Anderson's, the Chris fu of Matzama Fala, the Brandon Warfields, 299 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.360 the Steven Savoys, the Brett Rattle, the Brian Johnson's, the 300 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.200 John Whites, the Joe Williams, the Brandon Burton for the block. 301 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.440 The fact of the matter is you can be remembered 302 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:12.240 as a legend with one great game against Brigham Young. 303 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.240 But as you referenced, and if you pull up both 304 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.639 to be fair, if you pull up both Utah and 305 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:29.039 BYU's roster, you see players from California, Washington, Texas, Florida, Canada, California, Arizona, 306 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:32.679 and I could keep going Kahucko. Obviously, I don't know 307 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:35.440 what the percentage is. There's a good amount of players 308 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.000 on both teams that did. 309 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:37.759 Not grow up here. 310 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.039 I think it's fair to say maybe back when you 311 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:41.960 were playing, there was more of a local presence on 312 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.720 both rosters generally speaking, So if you're coach with if 313 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:50.600 you're obviously the coaching staffs from both teams know exactly 314 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.039 what's at stake on Saturday. How do you get the 315 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.840 message across from a to a kid from Rosenberg, Texas, Like, Dude, 316 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:57.679 Saturday is different. 317 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:59.799 I'm sorry if you don't fully understand, but it just is. 318 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.600 I think it's really hard. Again, I thought it would 319 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:05.639 be one of the biggest challenges, one of the biggest 320 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:10.320 concerns for Utah because they've been out, they haven't been 321 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:13.960 conference foes for so long. And you can be from 322 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.320 a different state, you can be from a different you know, 323 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.879 part of the country, and and but if you've been 324 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:22.720 conference foes for a while, that like it matters. I 325 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.759 remember interviewing the players from USC and the PAC twelve 326 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:29.840 media days and they're like, you know, do you like 327 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:32.360 having that late season game against Notre Dame? 328 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:33.320 You know, because it. 329 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:36.360 Can really in there, like like we would never give that, 330 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.759 Like that game means so much to us and so 331 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:44.639 understanding and being in the thick of a rivalry that matters. 332 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:47.759 I don't care where you're from, it it'll matter. Right now. 333 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:51.759 These haven't been conference foes, and I think and for that, 334 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:54.879 I think b Yu has a harder challenge because they 335 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:57.080 have so much more to lose, you know, and so 336 00:15:57.159 --> 00:16:00.600 there's so much more pressure on on on and this 337 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.000 guy there's like no pressure on Utah. It's just like 338 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.639 the expectation for people is Utah is gonna lose this game, 339 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.440 like like like the expectation is there is no expectation, 340 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:12.000 and where with BYU, it's like, man, you better. 341 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:12.320 Not lose it. 342 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.600 You can't throw away this amazing season just by losing 343 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:15.960 to them. 344 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:16.200 Yeah. 345 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.879 Yeah, And there's there's that pressure that's built in there, 346 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.360 and that's when things get funny, you know, because then 347 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.679 the players, you know, you play tight, you play you know, 348 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:28.120 out of the like don't lose this game mentality, as 349 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:31.440 opposed to let's go win the game mentality. And and 350 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.519 that's when you start to see the mistakes. And that's 351 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.519 where I think Utah has the advantage in this game 352 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.759 is when is when the pressure really is all on 353 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.120 on BYU to play well. 354 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:45.000 So let's continue the quarterback conversation, but let's switch over 355 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.399 to what you've seen from Jake Jake Rhetz laugh who 356 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:50.440 last year in four starts, lost all four of them. 357 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:53.799 And I watched every minute of those games. He made 358 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:57.200 so many errors, not just the ones he paid for. 359 00:16:57.840 --> 00:16:59.519 He had throws that should have been picked off. He 360 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:01.279 had fumbl that were covered by his own team. 361 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:01.799 It was a. 362 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:05.480 Comedy of errors of sorts. Obviously that kid put in 363 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.799 some serious work. I was told that it really wasn't 364 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.680 a QB competition. A Rod thought Jake had put in 365 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:14.240 the work in the offseason. They'd seen enough raw potential. 366 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.920 There are now to your point about Utah's defense. If 367 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:21.359 you're a youth fan, here's why you should be relatively optimistic. 368 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:22.920 The problem is Utah football. 369 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:25.920 For everything you said about their d because most of 370 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:27.839 the numbers indicate they're a top two or three d 371 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.160 in conference except for two. They don't get to the 372 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.559 quarterback and they don't force turnovers. But for all of 373 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.119 Jake's brilliance this year, there are still three or four 374 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.359 moments every game where you're like, that should have been 375 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.319 picked Yeah, you should have paid for that. So he's 376 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:45.480 been really good. I'm not knocking on it. 377 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:52.119 But if your Utah's defense are those Jake, and. 378 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:54.200 You go, well, we haven't turned the ball, we haven't 379 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:56.240 got turnovers a lot, we haven't got to the quarterback 380 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:01.200 percentages just say it will come inevitable, it's a but happen, right, 381 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.640 And and a lot of it has been game situations. 382 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:05.559 A lot of it's been a lot of teams have 383 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.359 been really really conservative playing this Utah defense. 384 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.440 They have not let the quarterbacks sit in the pocket. 385 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:13.000 They haven't had to because you're not playing from behind, 386 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:16.240 you're not, you know, So the the one element that 387 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:19.000 and and that's on the offense. The offense doesn't put 388 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.200 pressure on the other team's offense because we don't have 389 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:27.720 to score because you guys suck right off. And so 390 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.519 so those are a little misleading because I like a 391 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.559 lot of what this defense is and what they've done. 392 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.640 They've just been they've been in some really unfortunate tough situations. 393 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:37.799 The meat and potato metrics are good. They're good against 394 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:38.920 the run, they're good against the past. 395 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:43.240 The good efficiency, yes, and and and under duress, because 396 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:44.880 there have been a lot of three and outs. I 397 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.720 mean eleven punts, you know, I think against TCU, and 398 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:50.720 you just you get tired, you get worn down in 399 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:53.599 a game, and it and it's hard to stay at 400 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.000 that high level every single play, every single series. And 401 00:18:57.039 --> 00:18:59.400