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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist

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Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the

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Our guest today is Representative Brandon Gill, public in Texas,

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the fighting twenty six congressional district. Representative Gill represents, and

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he joins us for a conversation on border security, birthright citizenship,

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and the swamp. That's three big things. We could take

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many hours to go into this, but we have but

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a few minutes time here and wanted to get to

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the most important issues of the day. Representative Gil, thank

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you so much for joining us on the Federalist Radio Hour.

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Speaker 2: Matt, thanks for having me. Absolutely. Let's start with the border.

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Securing the border. We have spent four years in this country,

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the previous four years under the Biden regime, living without

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a border. Effectively, nobody knows that better than the people

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of Texas, the good people of Texas who have been

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inundated the front lines of the invasion. You have joined

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a number of your colleagues in the House, not only

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in presenting legislation on a very important aspect of this

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birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 1: You're also on an amicus brief filed in the United

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States District Court for the Western District of Washington and

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the United States District Court in the District of Massachusetts

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in support of President Trump's executive order in protecting the

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meaning and value of American citizenship. This obviously is an

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important battle for you.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely is.

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Speaker 4: You know, whenever I was running, no issue came up

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more often and had people more upset about than open borders.

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I mean, we had four years of absolute chaos under

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the Biden administration. As you know, well over ten million

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illegal aliens who poured into our country over that four years,

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probably more than that. That includes murderers, rapists, criminals of

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all sorts.

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Speaker 3: I think there's about fourteen thousand.

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Speaker 4: Illegal aliens who have come into this country who have

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murdered guilty of murder. That's a serious national security problem,

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and it's something that the people of Texas know very

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well and are very very focused on. So you're right,

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we've been very active in trying to bring back border security.

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I can tell you my biggest priority in Congress right

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now is taking the great executive orders that President Trump

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has been signing over the past several weeks, particularly related

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to border security, and codifying them into law to make

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them permanent so that we cannot have another Democrat administration

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who unleashes the same kind of hell on America that

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Joe Biden did. We just can't do that again. So

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that's my biggest priority, and we are working very hard

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said in a recent release, I think you

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summed it up. The left has misused and abused birthright

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citizenship for too long in this country. President Trump's executive

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order must be swiftly an act. Did you said you

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were proud to join the Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan

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in signing the amicus brief supporting President Trump's executive order.

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You mentioned the legislation which would codify the reforms that

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we've seen in a very robust start to the new administration.

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This is the problem that you face. It's the problem

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that anybody reasonably trying to get a handle on this

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invasion over the last four years, and what we're dealing

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with America face is that's an accomplice media what I

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like to call the prov de press. Get this from

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the liberal publication Washington State Standard. They talk about the

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legislation that you signed on to that would amend federal

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immigration law to narrow the scope of citizenship. And this

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is the part that drives me crazy. I want to

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get your take on it. This is the obligatory line

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in every corporate media story as although the right is

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enshrined in the US Constitution, that is the marrow of

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the matter, because while the left in this country assumes

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that that is a right enshrined in the US Constitution,

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there is a good deal of legitimate disagreement on this

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fact in law. And the whole notion that this is

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just automatically enshrined is what these court cases ultimately are about,

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Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly right, And let's think through the Fourteenth Amendment,

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its text and a little bit of its history as well.

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States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and that phrase

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and subject to the jurisdiction thereof is key here that

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means that people who are in this country and are

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not subject to our laws. And there's a con and

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this goes back, says deep roots in English common law,

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for instance, that jurisdiction here refers to both allegiance to

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this country and obedience to its laws. Neither one of

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those apply to illegal aliens who are coming here, who

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remain loyal to their home nations, wherever that may be,

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and are clearly not operating in obedience to our laws,

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Speaker 3: And let me give you another example.

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Speaker 4: If we had a foreign army that invaded American territory,

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where foreign soldiers were giving birth to children in our nation,

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we would not expect those children to be citizens of

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Speaker 3: We would everybody on both sides.

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Speaker 4: Of the isle, I believe, would say that that is

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patently absurd, and that is consistent with the text and

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the spirit of the fourteenth Amendment. You know very well

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that the fourteenth Amendment was in ref reference to freed slaves.

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It had nothing to do with illegal aliens who are

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coming across our southern border, and it certainly had nothing

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to do with facilitating one political party structurally rigging our

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elections by importing a new set of voters, which is

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of course exactly what is happening right now.

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Speaker 3: So I think that, you know, the liberal media may

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frame this as what we're.

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Speaker 4: Doing as unconstitution I would simply say that that is

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a not only a very poor reading of the Constitution,

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but it, you know, lacks any historical precedents or any

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any logical.

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Speaker 3: Understanding of what the fourteenth Amendment was meant to do.

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Speaker 1: And there in lies the challenge. You know, therein lies

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what you are hoping for. As I understand it, Congressional

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colleague of yours said, we appreciate want these challenges so

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we can get it into the Supreme Court of the

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United States. This thing could take up to three years

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before it winds up on the High Court, and let's

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see how they rules. That's really the direction here. As

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you knew going in, there was going to be a

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fight from the left for all the things that they

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want out of you know, sustained massive the legal immigration

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in this country. You knew there was going to be

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a fight. Now this thing ultimately has to be decided.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we saw in the first Trump administration, nearly

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every single thing the President tried to do.

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Speaker 3: Was fought in the courts.

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Speaker 4: The left has weaponized our judicial system to thwart the

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constitutionally protected will of the executive and that's that's been

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a serious problem in this country. But we knew that

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this would go to the courts. We knew that the

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left was going to have a major problem, and I'm confident,

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I feel very good that ultimately this executive order will

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be held and that's why we're so I'm strongly in

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support of it. But you know, the left is going

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to go after everything President Trump does, particularly related to

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the border. As we know, they tried to stop him

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from funding the border wall in his first administration. They're

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going to try to stop him from deporting illegal aliens.

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Just recently, there's a court order that stopped three members

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of the Trende Arragua Venezuelan gang from being sent to

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Guantanamo Bay. So this is just another example of a

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weaponized judicial system and left wing law fare.

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Speaker 3: But we're here for the fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt in the fight couldn't be any more important.

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We're talking about the integrity of our nation. You don't

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have a nation without a border. That's what we have

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had to learn the hard way over the last four

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years in this country. Of course, I'm just curious. I

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wanted to get your response to this. I know it's

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a question that's been asked. I think it's a question

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that should be asked repeatedly of our members of Congress,

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particularly our left wing members of Congress. Why do they

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seem so much more committed to the rights of a

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woman to abort her unborn child than they are to

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the you know, the integrity of our borders. In essence,

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they're more in line with supporting illegal immigrants to give

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birth than they are to women in general in this

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country when it comes to the abortion issue.

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Speaker 4: That's a great that's a great point that you're making.

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illegal immigration, particularly over the past several decades, were solely

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designed to rig our political system. And that's not a

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conspiracy theory. For decades, the left has talked about very

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openly about how demographics or destiny, how the changing demographics

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in the United States were politically beneficial for the Democrat

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Party at the expense of the Republican Party. They have

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been facilitating open borders for decades, and unfortunately, for part

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of that time, Republicans sort of looked the other way

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and allowed it to happen because they want, you know,

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Democrats wanted voters, Republicans wanted cheap labor, and that was

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the sort of faustian bargain that was made. But we've

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heard even Chuck Schumer a couple of years ago out

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in the open saying that the goal is to provide

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a pathway to citizenship for all of the illegal aliens

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who came into this country under Joe Biden's administration. And

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of course with a pathway to citizenship comes voting rights,

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and historically the idea that illegal aliens voting would benefit Democrats, that.

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Speaker 3: Has been a pretty safe bet historically.

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Speaker 4: To make you know, I'm a little skeptical how long

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that's going to hold. As the Left embraces some of

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the particularly the more radical iterations of wokeness, you know,

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the transing four year olds and the drag queens in

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schools and on our military basis, and just unrestrict completely

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unrestricted abortion up until birth. These are things that most Hispanics,

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for instance, don't agree with, but that has been the

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bet that the left has made, and I think that

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that is fundamentally why they've supported open borders, and that's

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why I think I truly believe that mass migration is

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one of the biggest threats not only to the United

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States but all of Western civilization.

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Speaker 3: This is something we have got to be serious about.

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Speaker 4: This was a key part of the Trump agenda, not

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only twenty fifteen and sixteen, but this election cycle too.

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Of course, we have got to build the wall. We've

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got to fund deportations on a large, large scale. Mass

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deportations were That wasn't just a talking point. That was

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something that we're very serious about. The American people want

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their country back. They don't want to see our election

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system rigged by massive hordes of people from foreign countries

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who are ultimately going to be voting in our elections.

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That's a serious problem. So we're serious about it. In frankly,

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we're going to take our country back.

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Speaker 1: You raise a very good point. I think that the

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left in this country, the Democratic Party, is still smarting

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from the results of November, which showed that a significant,

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relatively speaking number of Hispanic voters were behind Republicans. They

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were definitely hind Donald Trump and they just feel their feelings.

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Left's feelings are because they said, hey, we supporters wide

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open for you, We granted asylum for whatever reason, catch

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and release, it was all there for you. You owe us.

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Do you get that sense from your colleagues on the.

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Speaker 4: Left, You know, I do, and I think that they're

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and they haven't quite come around to the fact that

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not only Hispanics, but but other minority groups are moving

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away from them. You know, the whole mantra of the

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Democrat Party this past cycle was don't believe the evidence

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of your eyes in years, and that was true on

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the border, where they will try to make absurd claims

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about how, you know, border security was tighter under President

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Biden than it was under President Trump or underpast administrations.

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Whenever they try to tell you that that boys can

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become girls, or that it makes sense in any world

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for boys to be playing in girls' sports, these things

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are just patently absurd, and they kind of overplayed their

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hand with the wokeness. And I think that there comes

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a point where normal Americans look at this and they say,

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you know, you've so lost touch with reality that I

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can't stand with you anymore, you know, And that's why,

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you know President Trump was elected, or one of the

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reasons he was elected with such a massive mandate from

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the American people. But I'll tell you also this, the

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American people are sick of having their country taken away

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from them. It's like for so many people, it's like

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you went to bed one day and you woke up

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the next morning and all of the sudden, everything in

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America was different, all of the sudden, gender had no meaning, all.

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Speaker 3: Of a sudden.

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Speaker 4: You know, there were tampons in boys' bathrooms. I mean,

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things that are just mind blowingly ridiculous. Because the norm

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under Democrat rule for four years, open borders, inflation raging,

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economic opportunity declining. You know, this isn't the America that

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so many people grew up in, and they just want

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their country back.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you look at.

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Speaker 4: What President Trump and Elon Musk and the Doge Committee,

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which I serve on, have been doing over the past

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few weeks. You know, remember President Trump hasn't even been

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in office for a month. I mean, this stuff moves

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so fast. But we're uncovering an enormous amount of waste

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and showing how the federal government has been operating not

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only in an unaccountable way, but in ways that are

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directly opposing and against the interests of the American people.

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Speaker 3: And that's what people are sick of.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I think President Trump has such high

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approval ratings right now.

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Speaker 5: Have you been keeping track of the Trump scorecard? The

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and how it affects your wallet. In only a few weeks,

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border crossings have plummeted, DEI programs canceled, Mexico caved, Canada caved,

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Panama caved, and dough is saving billions. Whether it's happening

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in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to the Doge. The Doge Committee,

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which as you mentioned, you're a member of, coming up

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in just a moment. I want to stay just one

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final question for you on the border issue on national security.

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Republic in Texas from the twenty six Congressional District, joining

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us for a conversation on border security, birthrights, citizenship, and

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draining the swamp. You had mentioned earlier in our conversation.

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I thought it was a great point about the perils

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this Republic faces from mass migration. When you have people

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not coming through the process through the system, not coming

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to be Americans, their allegiance still lying with their former

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countries where they're coming from. In so many cases, what

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happens when the people who are here are citizens of

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this country, naturalized citizens of this country, like your colleague

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on the left, Representative il Han Omar, When they are

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holding press conferences and big media shows to advise illegal

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immigrants on how to thwart immigration and customs enforcement, but

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thwart the laws of this land. You have called for

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Representative oma are to be deported. There was some backlash

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from the usual suspects and the accomplice media. This is

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what Representative Omar had to say about your statements, and

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I want to get your take on them. She said,

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how stupid you have to be to be a member

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of Congress and think your colleague who is a member

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of Congress can be deported. She told Politico. By the way,

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Politico has taken millions upon millions of dollars of your

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taxpayer money. If you're scoring along at home anyway, She

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goes on to say, I had to crawl my way

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into Congress, and I think these idiots who buy their

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seats have no idea what a privilege it is to

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be a member of Congress and what it takes. How

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do you respond to her comment, and let me follow

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up with this, do you think that Congressman Omar and

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others like her in the squad and on the far

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left forget what a privilege it is to be an

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American citizen?

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Speaker 3: I do, And let me there's few things there. One.

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Speaker 4: I do find it a bit rich that she would

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talk about buying a seat, especially after we've been finding

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out over the past several weeks that so much of

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the left's institutional ecosystem and their influence in political life

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in America is based on taxpayer subsidies. I do think

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we and we can get to this whenever we're discussing Doge,

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But we do have to ask the question of where

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would the left's ideological movement be were it not for

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the millions upon millions If not billions, if not hundreds

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of billions of dollars being funneled into left wing media,

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left wing NGOs, another left wing advocacy groups that are

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doing everything from facilitating open borders to censoring American citizens.

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So I do think that that's quite peculiar that she

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would take things that route. But you know, I think

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if you think about whether it's Congressman Omar or anybody

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else who clearly doesn't have a sincere allegiance to this country,

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it really is a damning indictment of our legal immigration

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system that we would allow somebody who hates this country,

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hates its heritage, hates the principles upon which it was

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founded to come into this country to begin with. I

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will say I didn't say that she should be deported.

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I said that America would be better off were she deported,

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and that is entirely correct. She is a citizen, she's

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a member of Congress. She can't be deported. But I

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do think that this does raise her conduct, raises serious

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questions about to whom is she most loyal American citizens

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and the American government in the American way of life,

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or illegal alien Somalis who have no business being here.

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To begin with, and her conduct and her rhetoric. You know,

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she's talked about being Somali. First, she's aiding and telling

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illegal aliens how to avoid our laws and our customs.

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Speaker 3: That is utterly repugnant. Her behavior indicates that she is

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more illegal to loyal excuse me, to illegal aliens than

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she is to American citizens into this country. But you know,

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Speaker 4: Have to ask ourselves also, is American citizenship the most

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valuable thing in the world or is it not? And

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we've allowed our in this instance, our legal immigration system

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to hand out citizenship to people who really have no

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business being here, who get an enormous amount of benefits

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from being in America, not only from their constitutionally protected

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rights here, but also an enormous oftentimes welfare.

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Speaker 3: And that's a problem, and.

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Speaker 4: I think in this instance it's a serious It does

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raise serious questions about our immigration system, and I think

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that this is something that we should tackle over the

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next four years.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great transition into the Department of

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Government efficiency, into what Elon Musk is doing, what the

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President wants out of this, what you folks are doing

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on the Doge Committee. Let's keep in mind that congres

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Congresswoman Omar had recently talked about how beneficial us AID

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us AID was in terms of her eventually getting here

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to the United States. Say what you want about Representative Omar.

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There are a number of people in the refugee camps

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where she once lived that absolutely hate America. There's no

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denying that we've seen that. We have lots of evidence

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to show that, not just in those camps, but elsewhere

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people coming to this country that were indoctrinated in their

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home countries to hate the evil Empire, the Great Satan,

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or however they wanted to find that. So this does

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tie into what you have. What you are uncovering right

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now is not only waste, massive inexcusable criminal waste of

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taxpayer dollars. As you note, there's a lot of money

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going against the interest of America and its national security.

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Can we what have you? What have you seen so

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far based on what the committee is doing, what you've

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seen Musk doing, and others working on this very important project.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you're you're exactly right there. I mean,

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it's funny that the left is furious about Doge, They're

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furious about Elon Musk. They talk about it at every

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single committee that we have, whether it's on the Budget

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Committee or I'm hearing about it being talked about on

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the Energy and Commerce Committee.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are furious. It's all they'll talk about.

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Speaker 4: But the left isn't furious that our tax dollars are

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being wasted, that they're being abused, that they're going to

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fraudulent programs.

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Speaker 3: They're just furious that all of this waste is being exposed.

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Speaker 4: As I mentioned earlier, I mean, you have Politico getting

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over eight million dollars of American tax payer dollars, who

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sent millions to the BBC. We've sent a significant amount

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to the New York Times. So ask yourself, you know,

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if we're funding these left wing organizations, who are they

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going to back. Are they going to back the party

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that is continuing the gravy train that is sustaining them

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or the party who wants to end waste fraud abuse

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in our federal government.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a very clear conflict of interest.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of a joke whenever these media outlets describe

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themselves as independent, whenever a large portion of their funding

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comes from the federal government. But that's a different issue.

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But We've found things that are absolutely contrary to the

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interests of American citizens, and we found the federal government

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promoting values that most American citizens find utterly repugnant. Two

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million dollars going towards sex change operations in Guatemala, millions

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of dollars going towards DEI programs in all over Asia,

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in South America, a million and a half going to

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DEI and serbian workplaces. I've got a little list here.

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One point one million on gender diverse people in Bangladesh.

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Six million to transform digital spaces to respect feminist democratic principles.

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I mean, I could, I could talk about these all day.

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Lord in there, it's easy to laugh at them because

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they're so ridiculous. But the American people, whenever they find

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out that at the end of every year, whenever they

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go and pay their taxes and even irs, that wants

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you to disclose six hundred dollars transactions, and you're trying

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to dot every tea, dot every eye, and cross every

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t whenever you're filing your income taxes to make sure

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that the federal government doesn't come after you for tax

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fraud or tax evasion. You're finding out that they're spending

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millions of dollars on sex changes in foreign countries. It's insulting,

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it really is. We found just found out last week

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that the federal government FEMA disaster relief funds to spend

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over fifty nine million dollars just last week on luxury

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hotels for illegal aliens. That's money that could have gone

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to hurricane relief in North Carolina or a wildfire relief

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in California. So we are diverting funds from American citizens,

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from the people who pay for this, to find bizarre

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projects and to find welfare for illegal aliens. That's a serious,

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serious problem. And that's what we're going after here. That's

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what Elon Musk is going after. So President Trump is

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going after, and that's what we're going after with the

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Doge Committee.

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Speaker 1: Just all so gross. It makes you, as a taxpayer,

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just want to take a shower after you. I mean,

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this is important stuff, don't get me wrong, but I mean, yeah,

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we laugh, but I mean this, listen, this is money.

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You know, you talk, well, it's you know, for this

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grant or that grand one point seven million dollars, that's

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a drop in the bucket to the you know, the

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national debt to the annual budget. That's obscene that kind

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of argument, because one point seven million dollars is the

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kind of money that a lot of Americans will never

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see in their lifetimes. I mean, that's that to me.

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And then when we see that, you have a left

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rallying around the fact that it's it's such a travesty

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in their minds that the federal government is being audited.

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How many small business owners and the Americans get audited

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every year? Why can't their government get audited? But I

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have to ask you this, how do we get at

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and sustain world peace and American presence in the world

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without Guatemalan sex changes?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, that actually kind of hits it at

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a key point that the problem here isn't that we're

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projecting values abroad or that we are spending money. I mean,

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we the United States is the global hedgemon. We are

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the most powerful country in the world. Of course we're

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going to have some kind of present internationally. The problem

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is the values themselves that we're projecting are un American

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and they're disgusting. You know, if you oftentimes hear defenses

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of some of this international aid that comes in the

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form of well We've got to spend money on roads

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and bridges in Africa, because if we don't, China's going

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to do that, and that's going to move the developing

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world closer and closer to China, which is one of

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our biggest threats right now. Sure, but it's very well

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understood internationally that the problem with American aid is that

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we're not building roads and bridges. We're going to foreign countries,

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oftentimes with more traditional values than we have and lecturing

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them on why you know, they're using the wrong pronouns

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or why they're not transing their young kids.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem.

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Speaker 4: There's what USAID and so many of these programs in

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the federal government doing are not actually helping America's presence abroad.

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They're not actually putting us in a stronger position on

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the world stage. They're undermining us.

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Speaker 1: We're also sending a lot of money, and a lot

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of Americans are waking up to this and have been

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fully awake to this for some time. We're sending billions

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of dollars every year to countries that absolutely despise US.

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I want to see US, I want to see the

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country no longer exist, want to see Americans no longer exist.

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That's something that really has to hit home. I'll close

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with this final question because I'm curious. I would really

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like to see, for instance, the Biden bill that passed

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with just Democrats support. The infrastructure bill supposedly, you know,

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a trillion plus dollars for infrastructure. How much of that

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money is going to these kinds of programs. And so

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that leads me into the final question, what's next for

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the Doge Committee? What do you want to be able

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to accomplish in the coming weeks and months.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I would like to see the Inflation Reduction

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Act completely repealed. That was a wildly unpopular piece of legislation.

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It's stoked inflation in this country, and I think we

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ought to get rid of it now that Republicans are

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back in power. But we're going to be going after

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things like this and auditing where where a lot of

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that money went. That's something that you'll see over over

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the coming month. It is something that we're working on.

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Our next step is we've got We've got a hearing

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tomorrow where we're going to be looking at fraudulent Medicare

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excuse me, Medicaid payments, and we're going to be exposing

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a lot of the waste in that system. We're going

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to have hearings in the future that have been publicly

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announced where we're going to go after the five hundred

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million dollars that we spend every single year to fund

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NPR in PBS. That's a problem. So we're we're not stopping,

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We're not resting. We are working with the doge in

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the executive branch, and we're not going to stop until

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every penny is accounted for.

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Speaker 1: This is critical work. I mean, what we were talking

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about before securing the border, bringing a border back, making

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sure that our federal government is accountable spending our taxpayer

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dollars appropriately. Thanks so much for joining us today. I

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appreciate your time, your perspective, and the work that you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks Matt, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely thanks to my guest today, Representative Brandon Gill, Republic

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in Texas. You've been listening to another edition of The

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Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at

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the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then,

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stay lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame

