Speaker 1: KM I am six forty. You're listening to Later with
Speaker 1: Moe Kelly on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2: I've been following Vintage LA ever since I moved here
Speaker 2: invaluable entertaining researchs resoarch for old photos, videos, lots more,
Speaker 2: and for me personally, it's been way to see things
Speaker 2: when a deadly pandemic turned me into a real hermit
Speaker 2: for most of the time I've lived in LA maybe
Speaker 2: more than a lot of people, I admit, but I
Speaker 2: also love seeing old TV and movie locations, familiar faces
Speaker 2: from entertainment from back in the day and now in
Speaker 2: their later years, catching up with them, and so much
Speaker 2: more than that. The human behind all of that is
Speaker 2: Alison Martino, and she is here with me in the studio. Alison,
Speaker 2: I have awful people, Radar, but you seem like such
Speaker 2: a fun person and I could not be happier that
Speaker 2: you're here with me.
Speaker 3: I'm very happy to be here now.
Speaker 2: I feel like we've secretly been conjoined twins because we
Speaker 2: have so many of the same interests. I am especially
Speaker 2: into old Hollywood, old showbiz stories. I'm a collector of
Speaker 2: old movie posters, among other things. But first we should
Speaker 2: cover the basics. For people who aren't already fans of yours,
Speaker 2: give us vintage LA one on one.
Speaker 3: Please Vintage LA one on one.
Speaker 4: It'll be fifteen years that I started that page on Facebook,
Speaker 4: believe it or not, and I thought, oh, bunch of
Speaker 4: friends will join it from high school and we'll talk
Speaker 4: about places that aren't here anymore. And fifteen years later
Speaker 4: it's like half a million people. But really, all I
Speaker 4: do is start a subject about something in Los Angeles
Speaker 4: isn't here or maybe is here, and the thread just
Speaker 4: it just goes and it feels so good to hear people's.
Speaker 3: Just living in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: You can't learn this stuff in a textbook because the
Speaker 4: stories are coming from the community, and so that's great.
Speaker 4: Thousands of pictures are posted. I'd say there's got ten
Speaker 4: thousand pictures on there now the last fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love the photos because it's before LA was
Speaker 2: all over built and it just seemed like a spread
Speaker 2: out place, like you.
Speaker 3: Here's something changed a lot.
Speaker 2: Everything has it's it's inevitable. But I love the old stuff,
Speaker 2: and I love watching old Rockford Files episodes and finding
Speaker 2: the locations here, and a lot of them are gone.
Speaker 2: But In fact, I went to the I drove to
Speaker 2: the what is It? In Malibu where his trailer was
Speaker 2: a POS park. It costs a lot just to park
Speaker 2: there and walk around. It's prohibitively expensive just to see
Speaker 2: a spot in a parking lot where a trailer was.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, those shows have gotten more popular, and
Speaker 4: I think even through the pandemic, like Colombo had more
Speaker 4: viewers than it ever had before. It just everybody seemed
Speaker 4: to find it. And there's so much vintagelly in those shows.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I love Colombo, and I think Keno Larber
Speaker 2: put out that box set at the time and there
Speaker 2: was a big kerfuffle about that because for some legal
Speaker 2: reason they couldn't have any of the commentaries or bonuses
Speaker 2: on it, and it was a giant ripoff. I absolutely
Speaker 2: love Colombo and quote some of them chapter and verse.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, well, I like, you know, kind of pause
Speaker 4: it and watch it and see if things are still there.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of shows in the seventies that
Speaker 4: were filmed in La a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't think people really have a true sense of
Speaker 2: how much people saved money by just shooting stuff in
Speaker 2: the backyard here, right, Vasquez Rocks shows up in Star
Speaker 2: Trek and every Western you've ever seen, And yeah, it
Speaker 2: is my goal when I actually get outside to go
Speaker 2: and have a photo on Vasquez Rocks, like I'm Captain
Speaker 2: Kirk fighting the Gorn in the Arena episode. But by
Speaker 2: the time I left Seattle, I was coming up on
Speaker 2: six years ago. I was ready to go, partly because
Speaker 2: all the cool stuff that made Seattle Seattle, all the
Speaker 2: quirky stuff that gave it character and identity, it was disappearing.
Speaker 2: But you can't really say that about La There's a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. It's a massive city, and it's a
Speaker 2: gold mine of old stuff still here.
Speaker 4: To look for it a little bit more, but yes,
Speaker 4: i'd say there's there's still a lot left, and we're
Speaker 4: trying to preserve as much as we can and stop
Speaker 4: losing so many amazing structures, like the Sunset Strip that's
Speaker 4: being currently stripped.
Speaker 3: I call it Sunset Strip. Yeah, I mean it's completely different.
Speaker 4: I mean I grew up not too far from the
Speaker 4: Sunset Strip, and I still live near the Sunset Strip,
Speaker 4: so it's very.
Speaker 3: Near and dear to my heart.
Speaker 4: But to see buildings that were like kind of mascots
Speaker 4: of our city and familiar landmarks, familiar corners are completely gone.
Speaker 3: Now house the Blues House, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Sorry for what more overpriced condoct I mean, that's not
Speaker 4: fun when you come to the Sunset Strip. You want
Speaker 4: to go to the strip and you want to see entertainment,
Speaker 4: and they're stripping away all the entertainment. Luckily, places like
Speaker 4: the Whiskey and the Rainbow are landmarked owned by the
Speaker 4: family that still own it. But now the Viper Room
Speaker 4: is in trouble. Yeah, that whole block is going to
Speaker 4: come down for another hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what happened in Seattle. All these old
Speaker 2: places were torn down and replaced with condos with a
Speaker 2: retail level on the ground floor because the people who
Speaker 2: owned like the old you know, Mama's Mexican Kitchen or
Speaker 2: whatever dive that we're talking about, maybe they wanted to
Speaker 2: retire and they couldn't turn down that kind of money
Speaker 2: because it's you're operating on a thin margin if you
Speaker 2: run a bar or a restaurant.
Speaker 4: Well, when they say, well we'll make the Viper Room
Speaker 4: a museum, it then don't touch it. It is a
Speaker 4: museum like it's it's fine. I mean, don't don't don't,
Speaker 4: don't take it down. But it's very hard to fight
Speaker 4: City County. Is that very exactly what I was doing?
Speaker 3: Very hard? And they're a little snarky, and I just
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that you loved Quentin Tarantinos upon a time
Speaker 2: in Hollywood every bit as much as I did. I
Speaker 2: think it's the best thing he's ever done. And I've
Speaker 2: watched it two or three times and I'm going to
Speaker 2: watch it at least that many more times, and I
Speaker 2: read the book afterward.
Speaker 3: Uh good, Yeah, I think you are.
Speaker 2: As much of an expert as anybody to talk about
Speaker 2: how well he captured that area, or it would be
Speaker 2: the late sixties because it was around the time of
Speaker 2: the Manson killing.
Speaker 4: It was so astonishing to see him turn the streets
Speaker 4: back to nineteen sixty nine in the place in where
Speaker 4: those places were. That's what's amazing about it, you know,
Speaker 4: turning you know, the Doughnut stand back to where it was,
Speaker 4: Peaches records back to where it was, and then just
Speaker 4: having all the cars on the street cruising and just
Speaker 4: really fun.
Speaker 3: He let us watch, He let the.
Speaker 4: Residents and whoever wanted to watch those scenes.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know, so I.
Speaker 4: Went to like five or six different locations, and then
Speaker 4: when the movie came out, we really felt like we
Speaker 4: didn't know what it was about, you know, because there's
Speaker 4: there was no way you were ever going to know
Speaker 4: the ending of that film until you saw it. But
Speaker 4: it was the closest thing to a time machine probably
Speaker 4: the city has ever seen. Yeah, I really raised the
Speaker 4: bar for a lot of films they're going to be
Speaker 4: on location.
Speaker 2: It rang true to me that whole movie, and the
Speaker 2: ending I thought was just magical because it was the
Speaker 2: exact same thing he did in Inglorious Bastards, Yes, which
Speaker 2: was gave you a happy ending to something traumatic, and
Speaker 2: it was so satisfying. But I'm not sure everybody was
Speaker 2: on board with it. There are certain people who work
Speaker 2: here who really dislike that movie, and their opinions are
Speaker 2: completely worthless. I want them to know that.
Speaker 3: Don't tell me who they are.
Speaker 4: I want to like them.
Speaker 3: So some people don't understand it.
Speaker 4: I remember being in the theater, ones going, why are
Speaker 4: we following this blonde lady around all time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I know it's it's.
Speaker 4: You have to I think really want that ending and
Speaker 4: it makes you cry, it makes you laugh, it makes
Speaker 4: you get up and cheer.
Speaker 3: It makes you just go if only it's everything you want.
Speaker 4: It to be and what you wanted it to be,
Speaker 4: if you if it could have been, and if.
Speaker 2: You like all those old shows from that period. I
Speaker 2: think I mentioned to you, so the character of Rick
Speaker 2: Dalton in the movie as a guest shot in an
Speaker 2: FBI episode.
Speaker 3: With Burt Reynolds is the real one.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course I went and I watched that immediately afterward,
Speaker 2: and then I couldn't stop watching FBI episodes. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I watched like two seasons, and back in the late sixties,
Speaker 2: a season was around thirty episodes long, so that's a
Speaker 2: lot of time. But I loved every second.
Speaker 3: And he copied that episode to a t.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's astonishing to see how meticulous he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a savant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know this was his.
Speaker 4: Love letter to La, especially the scene where he's like
Speaker 4: where Brad is driving and you see the big knee
Speaker 4: on sign sort of above him through That was Quinton's
Speaker 4: view of La when he was younger, in the back
Speaker 4: of the seat of his parents' car.
Speaker 2: Well, he got so many other little things too. His
Speaker 2: eye for detail is incredible. I am a horror nerd
Speaker 2: and during the brief, brief period I lived here when
Speaker 2: I was geez. I don't know, five, six, seven years old.
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly, and my mom isn't around to ask,
Speaker 2: but I recall being traumatized by a late night horror
Speaker 2: show host called the Sinister Seymour when I was up
Speaker 2: by myself and I wasn't supposed to be watching things.
Speaker 2: They've had a Sinister Seymour clip in this movie, sure
Speaker 2: it is. It's such a deep cut, and of course
Speaker 2: that leads you down a rabbit hole. So you'll find
Speaker 2: a documentary about him on YouTube with a surviving family members.
Speaker 2: Was there anything else.
Speaker 4: In it that's well, you know, you have to see
Speaker 4: it at the New Beverly if you ever. When you
Speaker 4: see it again, go see it at Quentin's Theater because
Speaker 4: it's like a rocky horror picture show experience.
Speaker 3: Because the people who see that film know that film.
Speaker 3: They're like us.
Speaker 4: It feels like a club, you know, it's like a
Speaker 4: private club in there, and they know every line and
Speaker 4: we're screaming and stuff. But you know, just to hear
Speaker 4: the music, even though we've heard all these songs before,
Speaker 4: I did feel like I was hearing them for the
Speaker 4: first time because the characters are hearing them for the
Speaker 4: first time in the car.
Speaker 2: My favorite LA night, and again, I haven't been out
Speaker 2: much since the pandemic, but my favorite LA night is
Speaker 2: a movie at the New Beverly because they show old
Speaker 2: cult films all on film thirty five millimeter, followed by
Speaker 2: some drinks and some food at El Coyote right down
Speaker 2: the block. What is your favorite LA Night?
Speaker 4: Well, that you just named it, I mean, I've done
Speaker 4: that several times. You know, I'm a creature of habit
Speaker 4: I like old places. You know, I love Dantana's, I
Speaker 4: love Musso and Frank you know. I mean, I kind
Speaker 4: of go to the same ten places. But lately I've
Speaker 4: been hitting the dive bars.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that later.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: We're back with Alison Martino, the mastermind behind Vintage LA. Alison,
Speaker 2: please list all the joints where people can find your content,
Speaker 2: your Vintage LA stuff.
Speaker 4: Well, everywhere every platform. It's either going to be under
Speaker 4: my name, Alison Martino or Vintage Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: But you have a Facebook page, yes, as well as
Speaker 2: a Twitter.
Speaker 4: X all under either Alison Martino, but Vintage La on
Speaker 4: Facebook and Instagram or my Instagram my babies.
Speaker 2: Okay, so those those two things. Now you have done
Speaker 2: a feature for is it Spectrum? Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: I've been on Spectrum for about five years. It's been
Speaker 4: a true gift being able to report about places that
Speaker 4: I love and frequent all over town. And usually they
Speaker 4: have historic stories behind them. And I did pitch a
Speaker 4: series earlier this year about vintage bars and dive bars,
Speaker 4: and it's been really fun to go in and shoot
Speaker 4: there and get the stories. A lot of these places
Speaker 4: are going on fifty sixty years, some of them even
Speaker 4: eighty years.
Speaker 2: Oh well, well, it is my pleasure to live exactly
Speaker 2: down to the newspaper man's stereotype and focus on the
Speaker 2: dive bars. I of course, The La Confidential is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite movies, and I've been to the Foremosa.
Speaker 2: Is that on your list?
Speaker 3: I've done the Formosa twice for perspective.
Speaker 2: How to pro you are?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was their opening night because you know,
Speaker 4: they were down for a while. We didn't think they
Speaker 4: were going to come back, and my friend Bobby Green
Speaker 4: brought it back. So we were there for the opening
Speaker 4: and that was fabulous. And is that with us now
Speaker 4: for the direction, Yes, yes, it looks it's spectacular. I
Speaker 4: mean they put it back exactly how it probably looked
Speaker 4: in the nineteen thirties, but better than it ever looked.
Speaker 2: And you walk in there and you see some bimbo
Speaker 2: cut to look like Turner and drink in your face.
Speaker 2: What's uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is walking into a time capsule.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I don't even think set designers
Speaker 4: could make it look that good. I mean, it really
Speaker 4: is a time capsule. But some of the ones I
Speaker 4: just shot at a shaj which is incredible.
Speaker 3: Have you ever been there?
Speaker 2: No tell me about you have to learn? Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, didn't you need my help? This is why my
Speaker 4: show is good. Uh well that's in Santa Monica. But
Speaker 4: you have been the Frolic Room. I've driven past the Pantagious.
Speaker 4: You know, when you're talking about doing like a night
Speaker 4: where you go to a movie and dinner, like two things.
Speaker 4: You can go to the Frolic Room for a drink
Speaker 4: and then hit the Pantagious right next to each other.
Speaker 4: And by the way, there's scenes of that in Eli Confidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like like Bud and Ed walked into
Speaker 2: the Frolic Room and got into some mischief. What else
Speaker 2: is on your list?
Speaker 4: The Blue Room in North Hollywood and it's not far
Speaker 4: from here.
Speaker 3: Shall we go?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Shall we go out after?
Speaker 4: It's got greatest old signs. That's one of the great
Speaker 4: things I love about old old bars, or the signs
Speaker 4: and the cozy booths inside. And they're dives. They're small,
Speaker 4: you know, and they get the locals, they have the stories.
Speaker 2: And so if somebody like me walked in there, like hey, guys,
Speaker 2: look at this fun local dive bar, they I'd be
Speaker 2: risking my life.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not just dive bars.
Speaker 4: It's a bar with you know, kind of like counter eating,
Speaker 4: like you know, I love a counter you know, you
Speaker 4: go into a restaurant, some of them have a bar
Speaker 4: in the restaurant, like D'antana's.
Speaker 3: You know, there's like a bar, so you could sit
Speaker 3: at the bar and eat. And some people like that.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: But if you've got regulars, like when I lived in Seattle,
Speaker 2: I lived around the corner from the best dive bar
Speaker 2: in the world. It was called the Tin Hat and
Speaker 2: you had all the regulars, and I was one of them.
Speaker 2: And when a new person came in, it's like it's
Speaker 2: like a scene out of the Old West in a
Speaker 2: saloon when somebody comes in wearing clothes they're a little
Speaker 2: too fancy, and you think, well, they're going to get
Speaker 2: messed up before they leave.
Speaker 3: Don't know your wardrobe? I don't. You might have to
Speaker 3: go with me. I might have a little advantage was
Speaker 3: I put them on the air.
Speaker 4: But I think you'll be okay, okay, HMS Bounty have
Speaker 4: you ever been that?
Speaker 6: I was, Oh my gosh, somebody knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you why gosh. I literally I live
Speaker 6: near HMS Bounty. It's one of my favorite restaurants. I
Speaker 6: was I blanked on the name sitting here because I'm
Speaker 6: thinking of all these other places, and I'm literally on
Speaker 6: my phone right now googling my address and like keywords,
Speaker 6: HMS Bounty is one of my favorite And how about
Speaker 6: the Prince and the.
Speaker 3: Print all of that, right, don't you think Mark has
Speaker 3: a shoo? Places? You should should?
Speaker 2: Are these bars that would be featured on Grinder? What
Speaker 2: are you trying to say?
Speaker 6: Not quite unless you are into the nautical theme of
Speaker 6: than which, yes, but you should totally go to HMS Bounty.
Speaker 6: You should take fantastic baseball steak. Now we're gonna cause
Speaker 6: the line to be out the door. Amazing, love that baseball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the only one that knows that what I'm
Speaker 4: talking of him talking about?
Speaker 2: All right, Now, I have to ask you, as a
Speaker 2: dive bar fan, what is generally the tattoo to tooth
Speaker 2: ratio in these places.
Speaker 3: I have tattoos, but I have all my teeth.
Speaker 2: Okay, pretty strong, all right, but they can be it
Speaker 2: can be.
Speaker 3: Miss not there. It's very old, La, it's old. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like it's like walking into nineteen forty.
Speaker 2: It is. Okay, there's one more I want to ask about.
Speaker 2: What about the baked potato?
Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic, is it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding? Have you been there?
Speaker 2: No? Not yet.
Speaker 4: Well, you know it's owned by Don Randy, who was
Speaker 4: in the wrecking crew, who was who probably backed every
Speaker 4: single record you've ever you've heard the wrecking Crew.
Speaker 2: I only know the d Martin matt Helm wrecking Crew.
Speaker 4: To an educating your show, need we need a few
Speaker 4: days here?
Speaker 2: This was an errand of Mercy.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a whole other show.
Speaker 4: But but yes, the Baked Potato is a gem right
Speaker 4: here on Ventura Boulevard. And they have live music and
Speaker 4: Don Randy's the greatest keyboard players in the world who's
Speaker 4: been playing on every session record back in the sixties.
Speaker 3: And they have karaoke there. They have karaoke. But live
Speaker 3: music is pretty a way to go.
Speaker 4: And potatoes and potatoes get you, absolutely get you, absolutely
Speaker 4: get a potato.
Speaker 2: They're literally they specialize in potato.
Speaker 4: Their signage is true, it's a baked potato.
Speaker 2: Well what goes better than jazz potatoes?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Any other last one you want to mention before we go.
Speaker 3: To break Mosto Frank's bars great, but that's not dive.
Speaker 2: But you know, well, you know where I work. I
Speaker 2: don't think I can afford to go there.
Speaker 3: You can get a martini. I think you can afford that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can afford a drink.
Speaker 3: I'll get you all right.
Speaker 2: It's killing me to have to cut this off to
Speaker 2: go to breaks, because I feel like we could talk
Speaker 2: for like three hours and it would just disappear like that.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to talk about a
Speaker 2: couple of very very beloved, well known people that we've
Speaker 2: lost With Alison Martino Vintage LA.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: My guest is Alison Martino from Vintage LA. Now, when
Speaker 2: I knew I was going to start doing some hosting here,
Speaker 2: you were one of the very first people I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk to. Vintage La is terrific. People need to
Speaker 2: is it your accounts on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter X. I
Speaker 2: bet if I had your Rolodex, I would be spoiled
Speaker 2: for choice for guests for the rest of my natural life. Also,
Speaker 2: rolodex deep dive there. Nobody knows what the word rolodex means.
Speaker 3: Tiffany, I absolutely know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Foush, do you know what a rolodex is? I
Speaker 2: sure do. Really, I will bet you, Okay, you know
Speaker 2: where I work. I'm not going to bet you any money.
Speaker 2: I'll bet you Keana doesn't know what a rolodex is.
Speaker 2: She probably doesn't. Okay, let's just assume. Let's assume that
Speaker 2: I won that bet. Now, you've also been friends with
Speaker 2: a lot of well known people, Allison, because you grew
Speaker 2: up in the entertainment industry with your father, who maybe
Speaker 2: people don't know about. Tell us about your father.
Speaker 3: Who's dad.
Speaker 4: My dad was a singer named al Martino. You may
Speaker 4: have known it from the Godfather. He was Johnny Fontage,
Speaker 4: but he was actually a singer in real life. So
Speaker 4: he was friendly with a lot of comics, uh huh,
Speaker 4: and entertainment people because they would like open for them
Speaker 4: back then, and you know, like back then, Joan Rivers
Speaker 4: would open for you know, someone like my dad.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And so I got to know a lot of really funny,
Speaker 4: amazing people and we lost so many of them. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's it's just astonishing and they are gone.
Speaker 2: Let's get right into that. We lost James Darren today
Speaker 2: and you knew him.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, My dad is from South Philly and so
Speaker 4: was James. And those guys are you know, they're Italian
Speaker 4: singers from back then. It's Frankie Avalon, Eddie Fisher, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, even Chelby Checkers back then, you know, and
Speaker 4: so those there, I mean, Frankie's Avalon, Thank god, he's okay,
Speaker 4: everything's fine, but we did. It's a very sad day
Speaker 4: and James Darren passed away. It was a little bit
Speaker 4: we didn't know that till today and now.
Speaker 2: He was in his uh later eighty eight. Now I
Speaker 2: remember James Darren from reruns. I'm not that old reruns
Speaker 2: of the Time Tunnel, and I guess I am old
Speaker 2: enough to remember TJ. Hooker.
Speaker 3: Well that's not as old as Time Time Tunnel.
Speaker 4: But you know, a lot of people don't realize with
Speaker 4: with James Darren, he directed some of those TJ Hookers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never knew that but until you mentioned it.
Speaker 2: But a lot of these people, including Darren, have such
Speaker 2: the scope and depth of their career, we had no idea.
Speaker 2: We know him for the things that they're best for.
Speaker 2: What else do you know about Darren, especially since you
Speaker 2: actually hung out with him in real life.
Speaker 4: Well that he that he was a director, and he
Speaker 4: was a you know, pretty serious director. He did a
Speaker 4: lot of television when you go him too, IMBD. He
Speaker 4: directed episodes of nine O two one.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody knows that songs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean obviously he was an entertainer on
Speaker 4: the road. But how cool to come back and Starr
Speaker 4: is you know in TJ Hooker, be a character in
Speaker 4: t J Hooker and direct t J Hooker. He has
Speaker 4: everything going for him, and he was the most gorgeous
Speaker 4: man I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Not only I guarantee you that William Shatner was jealous
Speaker 2: of his hair. He had some. He had some magnificent
Speaker 2: eighties feathered hair. I could never get mine to do that, and.
Speaker 3: He had it. I mean, he just continued to be gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what kind of guy was he like
Speaker 2: in real?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: He was fantastic. You know, he's still Philly guy, so
Speaker 4: kind of tells you like it is and a street
Speaker 4: smart and funny, charming and just a very very nice guy.
Speaker 2: I saw a video of James Darren on YouTube showing
Speaker 2: somebody around some of his old haunts. I think someplace
Speaker 2: that maybe he was roommates with.
Speaker 4: I shot that video. Oh my god, Yeah, I took
Speaker 4: Jimmy around. I took well, Jimmy liked Green Blats a lot,
Speaker 4: which we lost that one. And he used to live
Speaker 4: in the apartment behind it with with with some of
Speaker 4: the old Sky Saxon and people like that and who.
Speaker 4: He had a lot of a lot of friends. He
Speaker 4: was friends with James Dean, James Dean hung out on That's.
Speaker 2: The name I was trying to remember.
Speaker 4: Yes, de Yeah, James Dean and him used to hang
Speaker 4: out a Googe's coffee shop across the streets. I know,
Speaker 4: I know, And so he took me to the apartment
Speaker 4: that they used to live in.
Speaker 3: It's still there. Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 2: That is you were so lucky and you were also
Speaker 2: lucky enough to be actual real life friends with Peter Marshall.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that when that was that We lost him
Speaker 3: about ten days ago.
Speaker 2: Peter Marshall, for anybody who doesn't know, what he's best
Speaker 2: known for as being the longtime host of the Hollywood Squares.
Speaker 2: But again, this is another one tip of the iceberg
Speaker 2: on this guy. Right, Yeah, he did so much stuff.
Speaker 2: He was a singer, he was an actor, and I
Speaker 2: only knew a little bit of this, and then I
Speaker 2: listened to like an hour and a half interview with
Speaker 2: him on Gilbert Gottfried's amazing Colossal podcast and Gilbert's no
Speaker 2: longer with us, but they get into some of this stuff.
Speaker 2: I had no idea all the stuff that Peter Marshall
Speaker 2: did and how talented and versatile he was, well he.
Speaker 4: Was, yes, I mean, he was the perfect host for
Speaker 4: Hollywood Squares, but he was also a singer and an entertainer,
Speaker 4: and you go into his house and you just cannot
Speaker 4: believe all the memorabilia on the wall.
Speaker 2: I want to hear about this specifically.
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff. I mean, I live for that stuff.
Speaker 4: And just packed your Glorin Awards and Emmy's and and
Speaker 4: he's so so humble, and he would love to tell stories.
Speaker 4: He knew everyone, you know, he knew everybody. Fred Willard
Speaker 4: was a very good friend of his, and I got
Speaker 4: to meet friends from Peter and Robert Morse, another great
Speaker 4: friend of Peter's, also gone. That was an amazing dinner
Speaker 4: I got to have there and they're all gone.
Speaker 3: It's really really.
Speaker 2: Hard, but you will have these memories for the rest
Speaker 2: of your life. And that is so amazing. So when
Speaker 2: you just were hanging out having a meal and a
Speaker 2: drink with Peter Marshall, what was the evening? Like? What
Speaker 2: what did you do? What did you talk about?
Speaker 3: That's the thing, you know. I live for for history.
Speaker 4: So it was really nice to be able to go
Speaker 4: to Peter's house for dinner and just sit him down
Speaker 4: and ask.
Speaker 3: Him about paul In. Give me paul In Stories.
Speaker 4: And I used to produce this show called mysteries and scandals,
Speaker 4: and I was doing a segment on Paul In and
Speaker 4: I could not afford to license Hollywood Squares.
Speaker 3: And Peter gave to the rescue and gave me his outtakes.
Speaker 4: Much from his personal collection, and I'm like, I look
Speaker 4: what I got.
Speaker 3: I don't have to lie.
Speaker 2: I don't have to lie the outtakes. How much of
Speaker 2: that could you actually use?
Speaker 4: Oh, it was a lot of bleeping, a lot of
Speaker 4: b bang, but how fun, you know, and to see
Speaker 4: a little bit of Paul Lynn and his you know
Speaker 4: sort of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you in my mind that I wanted to talk
Speaker 2: about Paul Lynn because because I've read, among other things,
Speaker 2: that Paul Lynn was a huge drunk and also kind
Speaker 2: of nasty when he got in his cups.
Speaker 4: I asked Peter about it. I mean he did say
Speaker 4: there were some horrific nights, but yeah, I mean that
Speaker 4: was exact quote exact quote details.
Speaker 3: Please, I don't think he got into details. That was enough.
Speaker 3: But I think that he also was great.
Speaker 2: Well, he was hilarious.
Speaker 3: He could be and hide.
Speaker 4: There they're jecky and hide at times, so they could
Speaker 4: be absolutely the best, and then they could just be
Speaker 4: a horror show.
Speaker 2: And Paul Lynn died at a fairly young age. I
Speaker 2: believe alone as well.
Speaker 4: I mean, he kind of got pigeonholed into that center
Speaker 4: square sort of syndrome, and I think it drove him crazy,
Speaker 4: and he wanted to do serious acting. And you know,
Speaker 4: he had he was on Bewitched and he had his
Speaker 4: own show for a little while. A pol On Shout
Speaker 4: didn't it didn't get picked up. But I think he
Speaker 4: really wanted to go into serious acting and maybe he
Speaker 4: could have. And I think he could have if we had,
Speaker 4: if he had gone into the eighties, I think there
Speaker 4: would have been a lot of parts for him.
Speaker 2: I think we look at game shows a little differently
Speaker 2: now than we used to, and we don't look at
Speaker 2: him as like low rent things that stay at home
Speaker 2: moms watch. We look at them and realize how brilliant
Speaker 2: some of them were. Like I'm a huge match game fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're fun to watch, aren't they? In the Game
Speaker 3: show Network.
Speaker 2: They're very fun, and they get away with some stuff
Speaker 2: that maybe went over our heads when we were kids too.
Speaker 3: It is kind of shocking.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna have to break here, but we're gonna
Speaker 2: have a little bit more with Alison Martino from Vintage LA.
Speaker 2: After the break. This is killing me. I feel like
Speaker 2: you're the first person I should have called when I
Speaker 2: moved here six years ago.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Mark Ronner with Tiffany hobb In from MO and coming
Speaker 2: up in the ten pm hours Coast to Coast with
Speaker 2: George Nori and we got George right here with us.
Speaker 5: Hey, Mark, Hi, Tip, how's everybody?
Speaker 2: George. I'm usually the news anchor and I'm sitting in
Speaker 2: for Mo. Is this bitterly disappointing for you tonight?
Speaker 6: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: You do a great job for KFI, my friends.
Speaker 2: I'm recording that and I'm playing it for everyone I know. George,
Speaker 2: what do you got going on tonight?
Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about miraculous healing techniques and later
Speaker 5: on a little bit of life after death on Coast.
Speaker 2: To Coast, So there is life after death? Absolutely well.
Speaker 2: I will be sure to listen. Great talking to you, George.
Speaker 2: We'll do it again, see you in minutes. And we
Speaker 2: still have Alison Martino here from Vintage LA. Let's Alison
Speaker 2: remind people of some things you've got coming up that
Speaker 2: they can consume.
Speaker 4: Well, my bar series well air next Thursday if you
Speaker 4: have Spectrum News at nine and it'll be all about
Speaker 4: the bars. And then I have an interview coming up
Speaker 4: with artist Edward sha next week well, who has an
Speaker 4: amazing exhibit right now at the Museum of Art. Everything
Speaker 4: he's ever done is there. So I highly recommend going
Speaker 4: because it's like only going to be there till October.
Speaker 4: And my Houdini Estate show airs on Halloween. I know
Speaker 4: that's a while back from here, but I'm really excited
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's spooky season. All rookies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking my language, and I tell us more about
Speaker 2: the Houdini stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's a.
Speaker 4: It's a mansion and it literally is right there in
Speaker 4: Laurel Canyon and it was built by a man named
Speaker 4: Ralph Walker, and he was a friend of Harry Houdini
Speaker 4: and it's been sitting up there since the early nineteen hundred.
Speaker 4: Some of it had burned down, but it has been
Speaker 4: restored and be built on and it has caves and
Speaker 4: hidden tunnels and terrace gardens. And Houdini kind of used
Speaker 4: the property as he kind of practiced his magic there
Speaker 4: and used the pool, and.
Speaker 3: It's got a lot of spirits because I'm.
Speaker 4: Telling you I was there. It was there in the
Speaker 4: day and I was I was freaking out. You feel it,
Speaker 4: and I'm a native and I'm kind of a hard sellic.
Speaker 4: Oh really really no, It's fantastic and maybe one day
Speaker 4: it'll be open to the public, which I think it's
Speaker 4: gonna happen soon.
Speaker 2: All right, this is important for you to know, Alison.
Speaker 2: My last name is Runner r A. H and e
Speaker 2: Er and you know who shared that last name.
Speaker 3: Tell me, I think I know, but's.
Speaker 2: Wife best Runner.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I can't prove this. I don't I don't have
Speaker 2: like Mariy Povich here to verify anything. But I'm just
Speaker 2: going to say that I'm related to Houdini, and anybody
Speaker 2: who wants to dispute that, that's on them. So I
Speaker 2: believe I should have access to this place. Now, we
Speaker 2: were talking about places around LA that have gone extinct,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to tell you about the Captain's Table
Speaker 2: because I don't I don't think a lot of people
Speaker 2: remember that the Skipper from Gilligan's Island had a restaurant
Speaker 2: in LA called the Captain's Table. Wasn't it some kind
Speaker 2: of a lobster jointer.
Speaker 4: It was a lobster joint, and it was on restaurant
Speaker 4: Row okay, And it was right next to Xavior. Kugat
Speaker 4: had a restaurant too, called Kugats, of course. And you
Speaker 4: know who performed there if we're like, because we're really
Speaker 4: old here, Uhli.
Speaker 3: It was his wife.
Speaker 4: So what a cool spot like neighborhood? Had those two
Speaker 4: right near each other. Now was restaurant Row Lost Sienega.
Speaker 4: This was a little bit north of that above Melrose.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: This is the saddest thing you're ever going to hear, though,
Speaker 2: And I'm not making any of this up. When I
Speaker 2: was really really young, like jeez, I don't know, five
Speaker 2: or six years old, my mom and my stepdad, pardon me,
Speaker 2: my stepdad took me to the captain's table. Of course,
Speaker 2: every kid back in the day you watch Gilligan's Island.
Speaker 2: It's the law, you have to. And my dad was
Speaker 2: connected somehow, and he brought the skipper to the table
Speaker 2: and I was terrified. I was so terrified that I'm
Speaker 2: not kidding you. I dove under the table. I dove
Speaker 2: under the table and I wouldn't come out and I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say anything because it's the Skipper and he couldn't
Speaker 2: have been nicer. So I'm hearing from outside the first
Speaker 2: of all, it's my mom. It's like Mark, get out
Speaker 2: of there, Mark. But then I'm also hearing the Skipper
Speaker 2: talking to me like I'm Gilligan and he's going, hey,
Speaker 2: it's okay, little buddy, come on out, little buddy, it's
Speaker 2: the Skipper, Come on out. And I was petrified. I
Speaker 2: could not do it because I was just cripplingly shy.
Speaker 2: And to this day, I'm bitter that I didn't come
Speaker 2: out and like have him slap me with his hat
Speaker 2: or something like like Gilligan.
Speaker 3: That blew my dad, blowing my mind.
Speaker 2: But look at what I'm talking to. You must have
Speaker 2: a million stories.
Speaker 4: But you know, growing up in the business, that's a
Speaker 4: great story because that was one of your favorite shows.
Speaker 4: And he's coming to your table and there he is,
Speaker 4: and you're under the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like I mean, I mean.
Speaker 4: My dad knew Paul Freeze. You know, he was the
Speaker 4: voice of them on the Mansion, and he did that
Speaker 4: for me as a little girl. I went under the table.
Speaker 4: I get I get to go under the table for that,
Speaker 4: that's scary. I don't know about the skipper, but no, no,
Speaker 4: for people who don't know.
Speaker 2: Who Paul Freeze was, he had one of the most
Speaker 2: magnificent and instantly recognized voices in all of entertainment. In fact,
Speaker 2: just a last weekend, I watched a movie on two
Speaker 2: be called Dark of the Sun, and I thought, this
Speaker 2: German guy's voice is dub Hey, that's Paul Freeze. I
Speaker 2: would recognize that anywhere. You knew.
Speaker 3: This guy in this room actually stretching. I mean I
Speaker 3: had him do that for me. I mean I really
Speaker 3: was terrified.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean it was very and then
Speaker 4: once he did it, like five or six times, I
Speaker 4: realized it was just it was a you know character
Speaker 4: he was doing. Yeah, And then I would go to
Speaker 4: Disney World.
Speaker 3: Doesney want to go? I know him? I know him.
Speaker 2: That is amazing. Well, we're just about out of time here, Allison.
Speaker 2: I cannot thank you enough for being my guest on
Speaker 2: our second night. And if we haven't burned the joint
Speaker 2: to the ground, maybe you can come back again sometime.
Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody. Tiffany, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for everything and for making sure you ever you ever
Speaker 2: see one of those James Brown concerts where Brown kind
Speaker 2: of feigns that he's fading. Right now, is that we're
Speaker 2: doing Need I Need the Cape. Thank you to Fush,
Speaker 2: to Keana too, of course, Jackie Ray, thank you to
Speaker 2: Robin and of course Chris Little. I'll be back in
Speaker 2: the news chair tomorrow and I believe we're going to
Speaker 2: be filling it in again here the following Monday night.
Speaker 2: So it's anybody's guests who will have as a guest.
Speaker 2: And thank you listeners, especially the ones who sent me
Speaker 2: some really nice emails with some kind words. Very much appreciated.
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. We'll see you tomorrow, Mark Ronerd,
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